Welcome back to Networking Unleashed, Building
Profitable Connections. I'm your host, Michael
Foreman, and today we're diving into something
that's really changing the way we work. I'm sorry,
the way we work, live, and connect, the modern
retirement revolution. My guest is on a mission
to help people escape the nine to five, build
location -independent income, and finally profit
from their expertise. And not just with digital
tools, but with the power of strategic relationships.
In a world that often glorifies hustle and isolation,
she's reminded us that success doesn't happen
in a vacuum. It happens in conversations, collaborations,
and communities. So if you've ever wondered,
is it too late to reinvent myself? Or could I
really build something online that gives me freedom
and fulfillment? Fulfillment? Stay with us because
today we're talking about how to turn your knowledge
into income, your knowledge into leverage, and
your next chapter into your best one yet. I'd
like to introduce today, her name is Susie Bills,
and she's really got an extraordinary background,
which I will let her tell you about. Susie, welcome
to the podcast. Thank you so much, Michael. It's
lovely to be here. I appreciate it so much. You
are so welcome. Do you want to give us a little
taste of your background? Sure, yes. Okay, so
in 2017, my husband and I sold our business that
we had for many years in California, and we decided
that life was too short to continue in the rat
race. We had a really dear friend of ours pass
away at the age of 40, and so it was one of those
kind of life -altering moments where we thought,
we want to live life. You never know what's going
to happen. So we just really decided to change
our whole environment. And at the time, I was
doing marketing for some other companies, so
social media content. And I loved it. I was pretty
good at it. I realized, wait, I don't have to
go into an office every day to do that. I can
literally just do it online. And so it started
with just a couple of clients, people I knew.
I started doing their social media for them,
and it just took off. And at the same time, we
took off. And so I've grown my digital marketing
agency now for the last seven years. We've lived
and worked in 14 different countries so far and
just really have been able to create this lifestyle
that we have so much freedom and choice. And
having that location independence has been magical.
And so now my agency over time has evolved into
now I help other people do that. and really understand
and build this modern retirement that I pointed.
So you can live and work, but also have time
and freedom in your life, not wait until you're
65 or 70 to retire, to then go explore and do
things. Let's do it while we're younger and have
a lot of fun. That sounds great. Funny, you mentioned
this, and I just got off the Zoom call with somebody
earlier this morning. who really felt the same
way. She picked up and she moved to Hawaii. It's
the same concept, but she feels exactly the same
way as you do. So it's very interesting. Okay,
let me jump into the questions. Okay. You teach
people how to turn their expertise into online
income. How does strategic networking accelerate
the process? If you're going to be selling your...
or expertise to people, whether that's coaching,
consulting, there's a myriad of ways you can
build an online business. But the one thing they
all have in common is you need people, right?
So we need people that we can help. And so networking
in general, right, but also strategically using
the correct social media platforms where your
ideal clients are creating content for people
that's valuable. So always being of service and
networking with that. as your North Star, that
you're here to help people, to share information,
to let people know that there are ways to do
things that they might not be aware of. And so
networking, right, is the best way that we can
connect with people and also connect with people
that we may never have connected with if they
didn't know about us. So a perfect example. is
you and I, I'm on your podcast. So people that
I don't know, but maybe we can start doing some
networking, right? And maybe we take it off the
podcast on the LinkedIn or whatever that is,
but we all need people. Yes, yes, very true.
And that's really what I base my whole business
on because I'm a public speaker and I go across
the country and I talk about networking, communication,
and I go on stages telling them, look. We can
do what we want through Zoom, but we need this
personal touch. We need to meet with the people
personally to get the vibe of the room, the vibe
of the person. You're missing out on all that
when you're just over the phone or just over
Zoom. So there's a whole lot behind what you're
saying. What role does connection play with someone
who's leaving a traditional career and stepping
into entrepreneurship? Yeah, so that's what you
did. It's a big step. And I do always, so I love
to get on calls with people that are just dipping
their toe into this whole idea, because there's
so many ways that people can monetize their expertise
and start businesses. But we need to make sure
that people understand that entrepreneurship
is very different than having a nine to five.
And there's a lot that there's a lot of personal
development. I always say that entrepreneurship
is synonymous with personal development. There's
a lot of stepping out of your comfort zone. There's
just a lot of things that happen that when we
think, oh, I'm going to start an online or I'm
going to start a business, we're not really aware
of yet because we haven't stepped into that.
But having people that have done something similar
to what you're aspiring to do, being able to
have connections with and conversations with
people that have walked the path before you.
can really shorten your learning time, right?
Because having a mentor, things like that, really
speed up the process and help you avoid pitfalls
and things that you just don't know because you
just don't know, right? Because you haven't experienced
them. So connection is everything. I will say
just a little side note. When I started my social
media business seven years ago, I didn't really
quite understand that at first. That was part
of my personal development is that I realized
that, yes, I can be online and I can set up a
funnel and I can sell my services. But the magic
comes in the conversations I actually have with
people. And so there's a lot of business models
out there where you can just set it and forget
it. And it's like a machine that's going. I have
found and with the numerous many people that
I've worked with. Having those conversations,
even if it is on Zoom, is really how that connection
is made for long -term friendships, clients,
communities, networking. It's never going to
be what you said a few minutes ago, but it's
just never going to be made without being able
to be in each other's energy and have that conversation.
So very important. It's very good. And it's that
energy that you pick up on and you can actually
say, okay, this is a person that I want to create
a relationship with, or this is somebody who
I really don't want to deal with. I'll just excuse
myself and that'll be it. And it gives you that
opportunity to pick up those feelings, that energy
level. Yeah. And knowing who you don't want to
work with is equally as bad, maybe even more
valuable than knowing who you do want to work
with. They're both equally as important. When
I own my own business, I learned a very interesting
lesson. I learned how to fire a client. Okay.
Oh, yes. So you have to know they can draw all
sorts of bad energy from you and lead you to
your nothing left. Or you can just dismiss them,
let their money go also. But you're much healthier
and better. Okay. So in the online space. It's
easy to feel like we're shouting into the void.
How can intentional networking help new entrepreneurs
cut through the noise? It's so noisy. Oh, my
gosh. Now, again, I started this seven years
ago. It wasn't as noisy, right? It was not as
noisy. It was a little noisy, but now it's just
craziness out there. And so if somebody's going
to go Google how to start an online business.
Forget about it. You will get inundated with
a million things. So again, having connections
with people, but even before that, spending the
time to be clear and get clarity around who you
want to help and how you're going to help them.
So being general these days, I'll use an example.
So when it comes to me, I work with a lot of
like health and wellness coaches, right? So they'll
want to start an online coaching business. Fantastic.
Okay, we need to narrow down who you're going
to help and how you're going to help them. Because
if we just say you're a health coach, nobody
will ever, you'll get lost in the sea of a bazillion
health coaches out there. Getting super clear
on who you want to help, what you're going to
help them with. And a lot of times that is based
on our own story or where we worked before, what
did we do before that we can now repackage and
have it be our own. So consulting is a great
example of that. I'll work with, let's just say
an example would be a lawyer. So they have a
law firm, but they're tired and exhausted with
the law firm and they want to create an online
business and create more freedom. So we can package
maybe their estate planning. We can package that
into something that can be done online, right?
And with some automation. So they're still a
lawyer, they're still helping people, but they
don't have to be. in the law firm all day. But
being very clear, that is the main focus. So
like I call Gen Xers, right? So that's clear.
If I can help anybody start an online business,
but I focus on people in my age range that want
to start an online business so they can travel
the world while they work and still make an income.
That's very clear that I help people start an
online business, which is so crazy in the online
world. So clarity will be the best friends you
can ever have. Most people do not have it, even
when they think they do. And so we'd have to
dive deep. And when I work with clients and I
come back and say, okay, let's, that's great,
but let's get even more clear. They're like,
really? That's really clear. I'm like, it's not
going to be clear enough in the crazy loud online
space. And the reason that we need that clarity
is because our messaging and how we're speaking
about how we help people. is what magnetizes
people to you. I'm sure you probably have the
experience where you've read something and you're
like, is that person talking to me? It's so clear
that they are somebody that you resonate. That's
the type of messaging that gets people that you
can connect with. The other part that I'll say
is we also don't need a huge audience and millions
of people to follow us or like us or all those
things to create a really sustainable, really
profitable business. We just need a handful.
So we don't need to be one of those people that
are shouting out into the internet world, content
all the time, showing up all the time. A lot
of people really shy away from starting an online
business because they think of social media.
They think they're going to have to be dancing
on TikTok and doing these things that are really
uncomfortable and they don't want to do. And
it couldn't be further from the truth when you
have clarity on what you're doing. No, that's
so true. The people say, and I've read before,
that the attention span has gone down to about
seven minutes. So you have the seven minutes
to really get them involved. And if you're not
clear, then they're off to another thing. And
so it's very hard to reel them back once you've
lost them. So the whole idea is to get them right
in the beginning. I would even argue and say
seven minutes is way too long. It is long. In
the scroll of like social media, it's seven seconds.
Right. Which is actually more correct, but more
correct. Because social media is that, just that.
You have about seven seconds before they flip
to the next. So you have to really be clear.
OK, so what are some common mistakes people make
when trying to build a freedom based business
and how strong relationships help them avoid
the pitfalls? Perfect. Exactly what we were just
talking about. They go into it with not enough
clarity, without being super focused. And also,
another piece of that is when you know who you
want to work with and who your ideal client is.
Then we can figure out where to find them. And
so what I mean by that is, let's say you want
to be, you like doing executive coaching for
leadership teams, we'll just say, or HR teams
or something. That's LinkedIn, right? Those people
are on LinkedIn. That is the social media platform
for that. And it's a great platform and it's
great for networking. But if you are, we'll use
the example of the fitness coach, right? And
let's say you want to help men get abs. I don't
know what you want to do with your, but you probably
didn't go to Instagram. Because that's where
they are. So we've been able to find where our
communities of people are already hanging out.
So people have one of the mistakes is thinking
you need to be everywhere all the time on all
the platforms. It's a waste of energy and focus.
And so when I work with somebody, we start with
one platform. Until we master that platform and
until we're able to connect with people and fine
-tune the communities we want to be part of.
I don't recommend that you even start a second
social media account anywhere else. Clarity,
focus, focus is the biggest thing that I see
that people don't have. And it's the biggest
thing that will make the biggest difference when
you do have it. Absolutely. It's something you
need, something you need. And that's great because
that's what you're going to help them with. You
help people identify their unique value. How
important is community feedback or collaboration
in discovering what the value actually is? So
what I typically do when we're collaborating
is we will start reaching out to people, right?
So you already have an idea. You know who you
want to work with. We know where they're at.
So reaching out to people in different communities.
offering an interview style call. So we're not
selling anything at first. We want to find and
people that we seek are ideal clients and have
conversations with them and see what they're
struggling with and see what they've tried before
and see how possibly we can be a fit. So we just
call those interview calls, right? So it's, hey,
you're struggling with high blood pressure and
you want to adopt a plant -based diet, right?
I'm conducting some interviews. Because I want
to see like where your struggles are and what
you need help with. It's not a sales pitch, right?
You'll come away with a guide on how to go plant
-based or something like that, right? So that's
not salesy. You're not selling anything, but
you are starting to build conversations with
people that you eventually can help them with.
If you decide that they're a match and you want
to start helping them with coaching or what have
you. But at first, the community piece is just
building people that you can have, really great
conversations with. And again, always starting
from that place of like service of how can I
have a great conversation with someone, leave
them with some value. And then later, if I thought,
you know what, that person would be a really
good fit for what I'm doing now, then I can circle
back and say, Hey, do you want to get on the
sales call? I'm offering something that I think
could really help you. But community at first
is really just reaching out, testing the waters,
having conversations with people. I'm not sure
what it is. But people are scared to have conversations
with people. And I think I'm pretty sure I do
know what it is now that I say that. It's because
of social media, we're able to watch a lot of
people's stories and lives and what they do and
we don't have to interact. That interacting now
and just being like a regular human that wants
to have a conversation with people is sometimes
seems like weird. I don't, I'm not sure. But
what... That's what community is about, right?
Is being able to have conversations with people,
but leaving with value. I don't want to have,
I don't want you to go in and have conversations
with people because you're thinking, what can
I get from it? It needs to be a win -win conversation.
You're asking them some questions and then you're
leaving them with some valuable information.
Who doesn't want that if they're struggling with
something? So there tends to be a, how do I make
money? Because we're starting a business, right?
So we want to make sure that when we're dealing
with a community or building our own community
or collaborating with someone in front of their
community, that we come with the energy of service
and being helpful. Because you'll find out so
much information that can then help you later
on or down the road build your business because
you've listened to people and found out what
they really need in a service. You know, that
listening aspect is so key that most people don't
even think about it. Because I call it active
listening, something I talk about. And if you're
not listening, if you're just thinking about
the next thing that you want to say and not listening,
you're not listening. You're hearing them, but
you're not listening. Because you're already
on to the next thing. That's it. Thinking about
yourself. You can't do that. You have to think
about them. It's all about them. Okay. And you
can actually, what I call serving with a servant's
heart. Okay. Looking at what to give instead
of receiving. So that's what you're after all
of their information without them even knowing
what you do yet. That's a whole other conversation.
Okay. What's the difference between growing an
audience and building a network? And why does
that distinction matter for long -term success?
It's that clarity piece again. We'll just keep
coming back to the same. All my answers are the
same. An audience, and believe me, I have worked
with people that have come to me with huge audiences
that they cannot monetize because it's so general.
And it was built because they were striving for
the vanity metrics, the likes, the follows, how
many Instagram, how... Quickly, can I grow my
Instagram? We want to build our community, a
small focused one, so we are able to monetize
that, right? And it's a win -win because we built
it with the right people. Community, again, you
know this, it's everything. It's everything.
And again, you show up with the servant heart,
like you mentioned. I also would say that when
we're trying to build a huge audience and it's
that the energy is that what can I do to get
people to like my stuff, to get people to reshare,
like this getting mentality, it's a scarcity
type mindset, right? When we're building a community
and we're sharing valuable information and we
are having great conversations with people, you
can feel even just me explaining the two different
ways, but there's a different energy involved
with that. And again, just community and being
involved and really caring about what you're
talking about and the people is everything. You
can have a million lives, but if nobody cares
what you're saying and they're not going to buy
anything from you, wow, that was a lot of work.
That was a lot of work to build that audience.
A lot of work for nothing. And it's common. Yeah,
it's very common. And it stems from that lack
of clarity on who you really want to be involved
with. Good, good, very good. Can you share a
story of someone who leveraged networking to
escape the nine to five faster or build their
business smarter? Yes. Yes. Let's see. Should
I use myself as an example or a client? Absolutely.
Whichever you want. This is all about you. So
for when I first started, this is very interesting.
So I said, I had a couple of people that I was
doing social media content for. And what that
started from is I was in network marketing. So
I worked with a company MLM, right? Like multi
-level marketing, but I was selling a health
product. And so I just started to, I didn't know
anything really about social media. So I started
doing my own and it started getting attention.
And so that's how. A couple of my teammates were
like, hey, can you do this for me too? And so
those were my first clients. However, then just
because of the network marketing is all networking,
right? There's just people, lots of people you
can network with. That's how it quickly grew
because they saw other people and they told other
people who's doing your social media, Susie,
until about two months in, the company that I
was working for actually came to me and asked
and hired me to teach groups how to do their
own social media. So that's a perfect example
of a network, right? Because I showed up and
connected with people and started working with
a few that the referrals and the conversations
would be like, oh, you need social media. Oh,
you should contact Susie. She's great. She does
a great job. That was, that's how my whole entire
business was built is because of networking.
Right there. That was it. Yep. Perfect. Perfect.
For somebody just starting out. What's more important,
building content or building connections? Or
is there a better way to approach that balance?
Yes, I think there's a better way to approach
it because you want to do both. Let's take an
example. Let's say we're on LinkedIn and we want
to start sending connection requests to people
or perhaps having comments on other people's
content, which is very valuable and needs to
happen when you're on LinkedIn. The first thing
they do is go look at your profile, right? And
the content that you've done, because they want
to learn a little bit about you. Should I accept
this person's connection request? Is it anybody
I want to be connected with? So what I'm not
saying is you don't need to be there every day
and pumping out tons of content. That's not what
I'm saying. But you do need to have a nice profile.
And it needs to be very clear on who you help
and how you help them. And you do need to have
some... content you need to show that you put
a little energy into your account you're not
just there to spam people with dms right you
created your your i look at linkedin profiles
like your storefront or your business card right
because people want to find out a little bit
about you before they decide that they even want
to connect or have a conversation um so both
is important both are important especially when
you're starting out because we want to highlight
that you have an expertise in whatever we're
eventually going to be monetizing. So you do
want to be giving valuable information over in
the content piece. Yeah, so that's my answer.
It's a double. They're both equally as important,
in my opinion. Okay, okay. What advice would
you give to someone who feels like their network
is too corporate or stale to support their entrepreneurial
journey? Yeah, so sometimes... The corporate,
you're taking what you, what your expertise is
from your corporate and you're just repackaging
it. Right. Like I talked about the lawyer, right?
Some people they're in corporate and then now
they want to be a life coach. That's very, right.
That's very different. Or teach people how to
crochet or like whatever, like it's completely
different from their life. So then we start with,
okay, where are the first, where's the audience?
Maybe your audience is not on LinkedIn anymore
because you have a new audience. If it's crocheting,
maybe they're more on Facebook. So we want to
see where the people are. And then it can be
done many different ways. If you are somebody
who wants everybody in your network to know that
you have chosen a new path and that you are going
to be doing something completely different, you
can create some content around them, right? A
lot of people will unfollow you, which is great
because they're not your people anymore. If you're
just leaving corporate and you don't want to
have anything to do with these people, unless
they want to learn how to crochet, then come
on over. This is the content I'm going to be
talking about. We can actually create a little
campaign, we'll call it, that promotes that and
announces that, which works really well. What
doesn't work is trying to do something on social
media or have your presence on social media in
corporate. And you're doing this, starting a
side business and you're trying to hide it. Because
I will just say you cannot hide anything anymore.
Everything is connected. So I wouldn't say keep
your links. If you're going to be leaving your
job, don't start talking about your new business
while you're still at that job and nobody knows
you're leaving. Like we want to make sure that
it's done above board and appropriately. And
you'll find that your network of corporate people.
In that network that you've built over the years,
you have people that know you, like you, trust
you. And by the way, they might also, some of
them want to learn how to crochet. So I love
the idea of if you're really changing to something
completely different, making an announcement
around it and making it an announcement that
doesn't have to be a big deal, but just a post
or two that really shares with what you're doing
and showing that you're on a new, exciting venture.
And that seems to be work really well, especially
if you're somebody who's built a really solid
network over the years, which a lot of people
by this age, 55, if you've been in corporate
for 20 or 30 years, you have a lot of people,
you know, right? So why not let them know what
your new adventure is? They might be inspired
to start a new adventure themselves. You never
know. You never know. You never know. Yeah. Okay.
Looking forward. How do you see networking evolving
for location -independent entrepreneurs, and
what new opportunities are emerging? How do I
see it? So I think that networking is always,
I don't want to call it old school, but when
I think of networking, before social media, right,
it was in person, which is still something we
haven't really touched on, right? Super valuable,
though. still that if you are so let me back
up here location independence doesn't mean you
need to live in your rv or travel the world it
could just mean for you that you just don't go
to an office every day and you work from your
patio or your kitchen table so if you are somebody
who is starting your own business but you still
live in your community that is Amazing and fantastic.
And that you should absolutely be tapping into
your actual community in real life. Very important
if that's part of what you can do, right? So
my husband and I, that wasn't on our thing because
we wanted to get out and go live in different
places, but very valuable. And just because you're
starting online business, you can still run it
any way and anywhere you want. New opportunities.
I just really think that the world, the internet,
even though it's crazy, like we talked about
and all of the things, it is still growing and
it is still, it's just evolving and it's massive.
And so there's so much opportunity to be able
to have a global reach for your ideal clients.
And that's one thing that people don't really
think about. We still in the US anyway, we're
still very like focused on the US, but. Over
time, I've had clients in, I think, maybe 10
different countries so far that I've worked with
that have found me just online because they're
very consistent, showing up, doing all the things.
And I'm like, hey, where do you live? Wait, what?
It's three in the morning and we're on a call?
Like, what, so you're in Scotland? So the opportunities
because of the internet and just because of Zoom
and because everybody realized during COVID that,
oh, maybe we could do things from Zoom. That
was a whole... thing. It's just really opened
up the opportunities for online businesses even
more. There's no boundary or borders, right?
And coming into that with a mindset of being
able to help people wherever they are is super
valuable and awesome. Yeah. It's one of my favorite
things about having an online business. Yeah.
And it's perfect because I'm just going to bring
podcasting into it for a second. Yes. Okay. Last
month, I had somebody from Australia, Israel,
Egypt, the UK, Mexico, Scotland, from all over.
And I had a hard time understanding the Scottish,
but beside the point, but it was just, it was
all made possible. And the time zone change was
really significant because there was like a 12
hour time zone. It's 10 o 'clock at night for
you, or it's 2 a .m. for you, and it's 2 p .m.
for me. Yeah. So it's the whole thing. Okay.
It's the whole thing, yeah. So bringing this
podcast full circle. Yes. Give us some advice
for beginners. What's your top piece of advice
for someone just starting to build their network
for an online business? You're going to get sick
of me saying this, Michael, but it's clarity.
Right? We really, because again, if you're thinking,
oh, I want to do crocheting, that's a whole different
network you want to build than if you want to
do fitness, right? So really spending some time
understanding what you want to do. What do you
have a passion or a purpose? What is that? I
also feel, and I'll just mention this, because
I specifically work with people, Gen Xers, so
like 45 and above, we've lived a lot of life.
We have a lot of experience in many different
things, right? So it doesn't have to be that
because you did corporate, you can only do corporate.
Or because you're a lawyer, you can only do something
in the law firm world or legal world. So spending
some time in inward and figuring out what do
I want to spend my time doing and talking about
and helping people with for the next half of
my life, right? Like it might not be. And this
is a scary thought for a lot of people, but it
might not be what you've always been doing. It
might be that thing that people always come to
you for advice. Maybe it is fitness or maybe
it is something different. Like you find that
people are always asking questions about something
that you do and you always consider it's like
a hobby, right? I've helped, I've worked with
many people who have turned their hobby into
what they love, right? Into six -figure businesses.
They live, they love every day because they're
talking about crocheting. Right. And they love
it. And that's their thing. So you do want to
spend some time figuring out what that is that
you want, that you could possibly monetize and
want to be doing for the foreseeable future,
because that will lead you to the type of community
with the type of people in it that you want to
start building. And then that will lead you to,
okay, where are those people now? How do I interact
with them now and start building my own community?
So you got to work from that piece first. Great.
That's great. Susie, I can't begin to tell you
how great this was to have you on this podcast.
You were a delightful guest, and I hope you get
many clients out of this. But how would somebody
get hold of you if they wanted your services?
Yes, I do have an optic. It's called monetize
your expertise. So I will give that information
to you and anybody can download it. It's a free
download and it helps people exactly what I was
just talking about. Look at what, where, what
are their expertises now? What do people come
to them for? What do they love to do? And it
just helps people start to think of that first
idea of what's possible. for them if they wanted
to start an online business. So I'd love to share
that with anybody that wants it in your audience.
I think that's great. And then at the bottom
of that, there's a calendar link that if anybody
wants to get on a 20 minute discovery call, they
can get right on my calendar and I can walk them
through that, that guide. And at the end, we'll
come up with a couple of ideas that they can
then take away and about monetizing their expertise
and kind of sit with it and see what kind of
resonates. I do not. I really. I think it's so
valuable and important for people to sit for
a little bit and like embody, like to learn what
they really want to do. Like it doesn't have
to be a big hurry. Take your time. Changing your
career, starting an online business can be done
in a very easy way as a side gig, we call it.
So a lot of my clients stay with their job. And
we build their side business until it's at a
point that if they want, then they can leave
their job because they've covered their living
expenses, et cetera. So yeah, that's how I can,
people can get ahold of me. My website is the
virtualrxagency .com or they can download that
guide that I'll share with you. You put the show
notes would be great. Awesome. Perfect. Okay,
Susie. Great. Listen. Again, thank you very much
for joining me, and I hope to talk to you soon.
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