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Hello, and welcome to Networking Unleashed Building Profitable Connections.

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Now what we really talk about is networking, networking and communication.

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Now, networking may be a general type term, but if you really think about it, how to network,

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and as we were discussing a little bit before the podcast, is really ever since the pandemic,

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people lost their minds.

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They forgot how to communicate.

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They forgot how to network.

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They think everything is by Zoom, everything is by Zoom, and you lose the personal touch.

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You don't get the vibe of the room.

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If you go to a networking event, yes, you're talking to one person, but you're getting

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a vibe from the rest.

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And though you're talking to the one person, just somebody to your left or to your right

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really give you some important information.

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So be that as it may, I have an incredible guest.

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He's a master of networking and communication, and really he talks about everything that

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I go on stages I talk about.

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So I would like to introduce Scott Schilling.

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He also has a book that I feel will be very interesting, but I'll let Scott introduce

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himself.

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Go right ahead.

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Well, thanks, Michael.

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I've been very blessed.

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I've done over 3,000 live events in my career, selling millions and millions of dollars from

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the stage.

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Along with that, I've put the sales systems behind those and took one of my clients from

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8 million to 100 million in five and a half years.

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So this isn't guesswork.

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This is proven tips, techniques, and strategies that work.

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And as we were talking earlier, people do business with people.

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And that's the one thing that seems to be forgotten in the marketplace today and quite

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frankly needs to be resurfaced if people want to be successful.

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Yeah, listen, you are 100% absolutely correct.

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And I think that people not only forgot it, but as we were saying before, whenever I go

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to a workout, a workshop, or a breakout session or something, I ask the audience, I say, how

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many 20-somethings are out there?

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How many 20-somethings are out there?

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And they raised their hands and I say, look, what we're talking about now is completely

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Greek to you because you rely on a cell phone and Zoom calls and you're missing out on that

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personal touch.

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So, let me ask you, Scott, just give me an idea of what your journey was from beginning

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to now.

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And how did you get here?

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Well, I was like many people.

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You graduate high school, you go off to college and I was very blessed.

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I wanted to play football and I was able to play Big Ten football at the University of

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Iowa, Go Hawks.

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But while I was going to school and playing football, I was doing that at a time where

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it didn't seem like I could come out with a Baskerville Business Administration degree,

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but I was, so were a whole bunch of other people.

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What was going to make me different?

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Well, personal face-to-face communication ability.

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So I actually became a licensed life insurance agent at age 18 while I was going to school

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and playing Big Ten football.

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Well, what that gave me is personal face-to-face communication ability, value-added conceptual

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presentation skills.

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And what that means is I've never sold on price in my life.

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I always sell on value.

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So as a sales guy, I don't ever want to sell you anything, but I always want you to buy

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a lot from me.

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So it's my responsibility to create an environment where you want what I have.

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Well, the real differentiator became the ability to communicate and to speak with people.

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People do business with people.

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Well, no, I'm doing it online.

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No, ultimately you're doing it with people.

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There's somebody behind the product somewhere and you can't do everything.

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You might be able to be a purchaser in that direction.

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You have to know how to communicate with people.

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You have to know how to create relationships.

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You have to know how to start a conversation.

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In fact, I was at a networking event last week and there were about 100 people there.

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And I was kind of standing to the outside of the gathering for a moment and this woman

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walked in and she said, man, I'm already overwhelmed.

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I don't even know how to get started.

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And I turned and I went, she goes, you just smiled at me.

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Why did you do that?

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I said, you ask how do you get started.

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That's how you start.

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See, now you asked me why I was smiling at you.

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Now we are in the middle of a conversation.

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Now we can get to know each other.

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She goes, wow, you're good at this.

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I said, it's not really that hard.

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And now she was in the financial services business.

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How do you go into a room with a hundred people and not know how to start a conversation?

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As Zig Ziglar said, you can always tell the salespeople that can't talk to people, they're

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the ones with skinny kids.

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So that's true.

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I'm a big fan of Zig Ziglar.

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That's the category of, listen, people hate to be sold to, but they love the body.

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So if you keep that in mind and everything you're talking about is exactly what I talk

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about.

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But, so let's bring this down a little bit.

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Give me a personal experience that impacted your career.

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Oh gosh, there have been many.

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Back in the day I was asked to be a speaker at an event here in Dallas.

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They had anticipated about 250 people in the audience.

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There ended up being about 750 people.

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So they weren't staffed to handle the opportunity that existed.

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So after I spoke, I said, because I train back of the room teams and because classically

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I'm a sales guy, I'll go work the back table for you the rest of the weekend.

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I'm local, I'm here.

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I'll just be of service to you.

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And they said, well, we can't pay you.

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I said, when did I ever ask to be paid?

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I said, you need service.

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I'm going to serve you.

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So we did, had a very successful weekend.

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Well, five years later, the gentleman who retained me at that first event walked into

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a room at the Marina Inn in Sarasota, Florida.

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And I went, hey, Rick, how you doing?

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He goes, you remember me?

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I said, yeah, we did that event about five years ago in Dallas.

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He goes, yeah, you're right.

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He ended up buying the product I was representing that day.

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Five years later, he was responsible for putting people on the get motivated stages, the 25,000

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person events.

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He the CEO and the president all said, who's the best speaker in the country that's not

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speaking on our stages right now?

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Write down a name, we'll pray over it and we'll open it up.

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They all wrote down a name, prayed over it, opened it up.

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All three of them wrote my name.

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They called me and they said, we're pretty sure God thinks you're supposed to be speaking

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with us.

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I was a 10 year overnight sensation.

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So the fact is opportunity lies in every event.

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Every time you do something, you don't know what it is if you have high intention and

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low attachment, high intention of doing something great in every interaction, a low attachment

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as to what that might mean for either you or for the other party.

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The reality is good things happen.

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Again, I subscribed to the Zig Ziglar school.

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You can have everything in life you want when you help enough other people get what they

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want.

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That's true because whenever I go to a networking event or whenever anybody goes to a networking

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event, their first thought should be to give, not to receive.

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If you have that in mind, because one of the things I told them is when you're at a networking

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table, and everybody's interested in what you were saying, say something, I like what

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you do.

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I like how you do it.

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How can I be the best referral source for you?

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How can I make you more successful?

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It usually blows me away.

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You want to do this for me?

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I don't even know you.

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Yes, no trust.

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They know you, they like you.

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If they trust you, they're going to do business with you.

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That's a main thought.

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Let me ask you a question.

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With everything you've been through, what are some common challenges that a professional

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would face and how would you overcome them?

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Well, there are numerous.

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Starting a conversation is the first one.

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You've got to create a relationship with the person to explore whether what you're offering

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might be a consideration for them or not.

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That's the first thing.

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The environment, the pandemic changed a lot of things, some for the better.

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Many things less than better.

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But what it did is it stopped people talking to each other and it stopped face-to-face

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communication.

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People started to rely on text and video conferencing and things like that.

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There's nothing better than while this is wonderful and it's better than not doing this,

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it's not the only thing.

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Somebody asked me, they said, Scott, you seem pretty unique.

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I said, yeah, I'm kind of a unicorn.

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I'm on this amalgamation of new school sales and marketing innovation with old school boots

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on the ground, face-to-face, belly-to-belly, talking to people and wanting to have long-term

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relationships.

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I really believe that that's what it takes today.

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I don't think new school can do it alone.

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It can maybe in certain industries, but not for the most part.

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I don't know that old school can do it alone, but I think when you put it together, it's

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a great mashup of opportunity.

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It's a great thing.

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And really, for you and I, we've been around the horn a little bit.

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It's common sense.

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This is common sense marketing.

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But to somebody younger than we are, it may not be.

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You have to show them what to do, and they may look at you like you have three heads.

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But listen, put the phone down, get off the Zoom, actually go to networking meetings.

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And I say, look, because when people ask me all the time, I don't know how to do that.

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I don't know how to get into the networking mode.

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I said, very simple, go.

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There are 1,000 networking meetings.

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Go on to a, what is that, meetup.com, and you can find it.

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There's 1,000 of them.

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And just go.

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Because listen, first time you go, it's not going to be pretty.

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It's going to mess up.

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OK?

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But the second time you go, it'll get a little better.

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The third time you go, a little better than that.

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And before you know it, you're a professional, and you're going out and you're talking with

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everybody.

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But here's the trick.

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You're talking to people.

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You're not talking to your computer.

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You're not talking to your cell phone.

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You've got it.

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So let me ask you a question.

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What is one essential tip that you would give somebody to improve their networking or sales

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skills?

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You know, I think it comes back down to, and it sounds a little bit like a broken record,

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but it's where it all starts, is start conversations.

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Have conversations.

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Be inquisitive.

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Have childlike wonder.

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Ask questions.

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It's not about, you know, I do 30 second elevator presentations.

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I don't pitch.

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Baseball players pitch.

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I present.

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I'm a professional.

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But I think that, I'll give you an example.

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There was a meeting one day, and there were seven people the first month they did it.

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There were 57 people the second month.

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Obviously, that means it was all new people the second time around.

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Well, everybody stood up during their elevator presentation.

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Most people do.

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They tried to sell the room.

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Fifty second person to go that day.

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And I said, Hi, I'm Scott Schilling.

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I'm a trainer, speaker, author, coach, consultant, dog walker.

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I do a lot of different stuff.

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But I haven't earned the right to ask you for anything.

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So I do have a free offer for everybody.

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You can go to TWGFreeGift.com and download one of my books.

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And if you download one of my books and you read it and you go, Hey, this guy seems okay.

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My contact information is in there.

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If there's something that resonates with you, reach out to me and we'll start a conversation

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there.

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I want to give you a gift.

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I don't have anything to ask for.

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And I sat down.

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Well, after the meeting, like 50 people lined up to talk to me because I was the only one

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that didn't try to sell the room.

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I gave the room something.

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And so one of the other things you could do at networking meetings is say, let's say that

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you and I were in a networking meeting and say, Hey, you know, I'd love to, you know,

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I'm a trainer, a speaker, an author, a coach, a consultant, all those kinds of things.

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That's really cool.

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But recently I was on Michael's podcast and Michael is an amazing guy.

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If you guys don't get to know him, you're really making a mistake and ultimately become

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a third party advocate for you or somebody in the room.

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See if more people would go and try to support or say, Hey, I just did this deal with Michael.

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That was absolutely amazing.

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He took such great care of me.

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You really should get to know him.

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Well, if people come over and get to know you, what are you probably going to say about

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me?

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You know, it was one of the best transactions I ever.

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So now I become your advocate, you become my advocate and better things happen.

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See when I even you said, you know, please introduce yourself.

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What I said was all factual.

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I've done over 3000 live events.

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I've probably had a million people sitting in seats in front of me.

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I've been the front man to eight infomercials.

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I've sold 25 million from the stage.

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That's all factual stuff.

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But if I say it, it could be taken as arrogant or egotistical or don't I think I'm something.

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No, I'm just spouting some facts.

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But if you say those exact same things, it holds a different kind of credence, right?

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You can sell you.

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Typically, I can sell you better.

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Why?

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Well, are you going to tell me you're not awesome?

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You're never going to tell me that.

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But if I say you're awesome and I say, Michael, why does everybody say you're so awesome?

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Then it's informational.

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It's taken totally differently.

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So become great at bragging on other people.

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Become great at saying, gosh, it's so good to see you.

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Hey, have you met Tom over here?

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Man, Tom, you got to meet Michael because he's just flipping awesome.

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Again, that's going to get you a whole lot further in networking than going, hey, Tom,

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I'm really awesome.

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You're right.

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Right.

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But that's why I said that when you go to a networking event or a networking meeting,

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you're looking to give and you praise other people because as well as I do, what goes

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around will come around.

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OK.

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If you do that to enough people, then they're going to start to you as well.

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Now, once they do that, once you give you want to give a referral, make sure it's a

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referral.

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But you have to give them something extraordinary.

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And I too, like on my website, I have my book sale.

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But right next to it, I have a bridge version.

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OK.

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It's everything that's in the book as a PDF.

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You download it and that will get you on your way for networking.

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And it's free.

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Just take it.

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And people ask me all the time, they say, why do you do that right next to your book?

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Don't you want to sell your book?

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I said, no, not really.

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I'm here to make you more successful.

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That's exactly why when we were talking, you know, this just came out.

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90 second success tips, 104 tips to sell more with less effort.

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Somebody said, well, why are you putting it out?

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And I said, well, it's pretty simple.

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I don't think people want to sell less with more effort.

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You know, I mean, I think it's pretty self-explanatory.

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I was paid a whole bunch of money for what's in that book for a company that we took from

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eight million to a hundred million in five and a half years.

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And I was taught, well, you don't take things that you could sell in a seminar and put it

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into a book.

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Why would you take thousands of dollars and turn it into $20 on Amazon?

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Well, but we're at a time where people need that information.

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So it's time to put it in a book so that people can get it so they can sell more with less

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effort so that they can enjoy life.

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Because we've got to do what we can do to serve people, to help people, again, get in

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these conversations.

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Because as nice as the conversations are for business, they're having the same challenges

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in life.

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They're not talking to their wife.

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They're not talking to their kids.

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They're not talking to who could be friends.

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They're not friends because they're not talking to them because they don't know them.

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And so there's so many different things that can be done if in fact we simply engage with

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people.

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Well, how do you do that?

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You walk up and you capture their interest and attention.

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You say something about them.

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Wow, that's a good looking shirt, man.

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I love that green.

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It doesn't take much.

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It usually surprises them like my shirt.

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So why don't you give me a little sneak peek of your book?

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Give me one little excerpt from your book that you really feel passionate about.

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The one that always comes up because it makes me laugh and hopefully it sets a tone.

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But one of the tips in there is sell dog food to dog.

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Sell dog food to dogs and cat food to cats.

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Because if you sell dog food to cats, it just pisses them off.

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Like I say, it's a little tongue in cheek and a little funny, but people try to jam

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their solution, their round peg into too many square holes.

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And that's what that tip is all about is when people say, Scott, what is it you do?

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I identify problems and provide solutions.

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It's only four words.

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But most people are so enamored with their solution that they try to get it to fit everywhere.

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And the reality is more than likely it doesn't.

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And so you're not doing yourself any good.

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You're not doing them any good.

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You didn't solve their problem.

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You ultimately, while you may have made a sale and made a little commission, they're

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going to return it.

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So the commission's going back.

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Now the company's got to do all the paperwork.

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Now your merchant services gets dinged.

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There's more negative to selling something that shouldn't have been sold than there is

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positive.

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And so I'm all about doing this the right way for the right reasons with the right people.

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Pretty simple.

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And I realized that a lot of these tips seem very simplistic and on one side they kind

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of are.

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But then why aren't you doing it?

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So just because it's simple.

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I learned a great lesson from Zig backstage one day.

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He's talking with Les Brown.

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And Les said, you know, Zig, we go from city to city and I change my talk every week and

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I got a fresh talk and you use the same dang talk every week.

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And he says, why?

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And Zig said, well, that's for two reasons.

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For one, because the people in this city need to hear this message and they haven't heard

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it yet.

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But more importantly, I teach truth and truth never changes.

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This book is truth.

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They might be 90 second success tips, but they're truth.

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You could do them today.

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You could have done them five years ago.

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You can do them five years from now.

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It doesn't matter.

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Truth works.

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Treating people with respect, honor and dignity is truth.

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Absolutely.

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Novel concept, right?

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So that's I'm on a mission to return respect, honor and dignity to the planet and get people

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enjoying their life again.

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As a military veteran, honor is very big with me.

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The truth and honesty and all that resonates with me greatly.

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So I just want to thank you for everything you're doing, everything that you've done.

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Please read the book.

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Scott, if people wanted to get hold of you, what's the best way?

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Man, my email, I don't hide very well.

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It's scott at scottschilling.com and my website is aptly named scottschilling.com.

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Just seek me out, reach out and let's have a conversation.

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I'm here to be of service and love meeting people.

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That's great.

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Scott, I want to thank you again.

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This was a great time and everybody, if you really want to learn more about Scott, please

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go to his website and you'll learn oodles more.

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Okay.

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Absolutely.

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I'm committed to oodles.

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Okay.

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I'll see you soon.

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See you soon.

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This has been another episode of Networking Unleashed, Building Profitable Connections.

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First of all, to all my brethren, all the veterans of these United States, thank you

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for your service.

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Second, if you'd like to offer me a call, I always give to Tunnel for the Networkers.

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That's t2t.org.

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Thank you.

