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TTJ fam, I'm so excited to have you back. Welcome

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back to Thriller Journey. We took a break and

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now we're back and I'm excited to have you back

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with us. So this episode is a good one and I

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wanted us to just get in right now and talk about

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it. So right now there are a lot of people who

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look successful on the outside and are exhausted

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on the inside. They're productive, you know,

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they're disciplined, you're getting things done.

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But underneath all of that, their nervous system

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is still living in survival mode. and that is

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the truth a lot of people you might not want

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to face right now because in this season people

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are not just dealing with pressure you know from

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work or wherever else you're carrying old pain

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constant stimulation a non -stop noise and a

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body that never really gets to come down. So

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what happens is you keep pushing, keep performing,

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keep achieving, and still wondering why in that

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crazy space, why peace still feels so far away.

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So that's why this conversation matters. So in

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this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jacqueline

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Campbell. She's a former US Marine, she's a therapist,

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a founder of Vision Expansio. And we're going

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to talk about what so many high performers miss.

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You cannot outwork dysregulation. You cannot

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hustle your way into wholeness. And real success

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does not start with doing more. It starts with

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learning how to come back to your body, face

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what's been driving you, and regulate what has

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been running unchecked for years. I had to do

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that. So what hit me in this conversation is

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that this is not just about trauma in the obvious

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sense. This is about the pattern, the emotional

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landmine, the hidden survival responses, and

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The way unresolved pain keeps shaping how we

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love, work, live, and lead, and Dr. Jacqueline

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breaks down how the nervous system holds onto

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old experiences, why so many people stay busy

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to avoid themselves, and what it actually takes

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to begin healing at the root. So if you have

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been telling yourself, I'm fine, right? I just

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need to push harder, this episode may interrupt

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that lie. And if you have been feeling like something

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in your life keeps repeating, no matter how hard

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you work, this conversation may help you see

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why. Let's get into it. So I'm really excited

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to have Dr. Jacqueline Campbell on. And thank

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you for being on the podcast. How are you doing

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today? I'm doing really well, Michael. Thank

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you so much for having me. Absolutely. My nervous

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system was about to be dysregulated. Today we

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had a little bit of tech issues, but, you know,

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you know, the calm minds prevail, right? Right.

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They do. And sometimes it's still hard. Yeah,

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it is. It is. It is. It is. And, you know, like

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I told you, I was really excited to have you

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on just because just in my life, I have just

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really started working on What it means to kind

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of regulate your nervous system, right? And I

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don't even know if I'm doing it right, you know

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I'm just kind of picking up pieces like puzzles

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and trying to put it together and You know really

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figure it out But before we go into everything

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I you know, I had to you know do a little research

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on who you were and you have an amazing resume

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and you know, you are a former US Marine mental

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health therapist founder of a company called

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vision expansio, right? Right and You know, we

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talked about the top of the store of the show

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high performers and your mission is to help high

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performers regulate their nervous system and

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How how do you go about doing that? Just really

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quickly because we're going to go deep into it.

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But of course in that world, what does that look

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like? Well when you're talking about needing

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to regulate your nervous system We need to be

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mindful of what the body is saying to begin with.

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If we're not self -aware, then the mind -body

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connection is physiologically damaged, and we

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can't pay attention to the negative energy that's

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building up in our body. This usually turns into

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disease and chronic illnesses, things that we

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can prevent. They call it somatic experiencing,

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where you feel sick in one area, or you have

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a disorder in one area, but the doctors can't

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figure it out. because physically nothing's wrong

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with you, it's because you're somatically experiencing

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your emotions in your body. However, when it

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comes to feeling your emotions, when something

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happens, let's say you were 10 years old and

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your mom was late to pick you up from school

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or something, just something easy, right? Like

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physical sexual and violent traumas, that's a

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whole other story and it's deeper and it's bigger,

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but most people look at that like a problem.

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The average person doesn't look at when I was

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10 years old and mom was late to pick me up.

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But when I'm 10 years old, sitting at the stoop

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at the school and I feel abandoned and neglected

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and I'm embarrassed that I'm sitting there, I

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don't realize that's what's happening in the

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nervous system is it's getting programmed. The

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more memories that it has that are like that,

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it creates emotional landmines that get stuck

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and jammed in the body. And then there's neural

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networks in the brain that create these stories.

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And then what happens in real life, 25 years

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later, you're 35 years old and you can't have

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a healthy relationship because you feel insecure

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because you feel like you're gonna be abandoned.

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It creates filters on our reality. So if you're

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not present with your body in the moment, you

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can't tell when you're not actually present.

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You're just feeling stress from the past. So

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a lot of the work in getting grounded as awareness

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followed by working on issues that are unresolved

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from your past. Yeah, I would definitely agree

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with that. I think, let's just say starting with

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2009, I was actually starting to understand that

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many years ago. All right. But not everybody

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really finds that until later, later, later,

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later, later in life. Right. What are some of

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the things that people could look for right now?

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In their life they say maybe this is something

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I should be looking at too because these patterns

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keep showing up in my life Right. You're talking

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about like red flags that they know that there's

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a problem, but they don't necessarily know what

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the problem is just yet Yeah, you say that yes,

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right? I call them red flag Right now that I

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see is people cannot be still and cannot be present

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And the number one way that people can maybe

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decipher whether they're a present individual

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and aware or not is they're constantly on electronics.

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If you are constantly stimulating, you're running

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from something because we can't sit still with

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ourselves because we're actually running away

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from ourselves. So electronics is the number

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one. Staying busy with other things is another

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common thing. It's the same thing, just not using

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electronics. Electronics happen to be the easiest

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form of distraction for us right now. A lot of

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high performers, they hide in their work. So

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they're constantly working from the second they

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wake up. They listen to whether it be podcasts

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or audio books or a YouTube video or something

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while they're at the gym. Like, yeah, they made

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it to the gym, but did they actually decompress

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their brain? Did they they allow their brain

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to decompress when they were eating lunch or

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did they sit there at the table and watch a screen?

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Right and then they don't get off until later

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in the evening and then even then Still answering

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text messages still answering calls. They never

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allow themselves that downtime Because the nervous

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system once you get still and quiet it will start

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telling you all the things that it needs to work

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on This is why we run Yeah You know, when, as

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you were saying that, you know, when you first

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met someone, it's like you kind of sense their

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energy a little bit. And for you, I sensed her

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energy and I was like, I think, man, she's calm,

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she's chill, you know? Thank you, I'm so happy.

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Everybody always says that. So when I feel, you

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know, a little ruffled, I'm like, one, I can't

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help anybody, you know, get calm if I'm ruffled,

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right? But then immediately I'm like, Okay, well,

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but what caused it? How long ago did it start?

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And we have to figure that out, because it wasn't

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just in the moment, because people can pick up

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on it. If you're scattered, if you're disorganized,

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and if you're not aware of that, then people

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will start not wanting to be around you. It's

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like, or they're also negative and disorganized.

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And that's why they cling to be around you. Yeah,

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just would you call that needy? It depends sometimes

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there's energy vampires and sometimes I mean

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your vibe attracts your tribe You know what I

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mean? However, a lot of peaceful people with

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really good and joyful energy They feel depleted

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because they're constantly giving to those energy

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vampires You know, so when I kind of create just

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a little bit before we go forward that something

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that led you into this journey so I know that

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You you talk about how your you had an unstable

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home growing up that and then you went to the

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Marines around 17 There is a if you want to talk

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about that story just a little bit that got to

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the turning point to Change and shift everything

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for you. Just so that people can really say well,

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maybe I see myself in her story absolutely And

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I think it happens a lot with highly sensitive

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people. I'm a very sensitive person. So I feel

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my emotions, even if I don't want to. So when

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I was trying to suppress my emotions, it came

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out as anger and aggression. But that's because

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I just couldn't contain there was just too much

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right in the body. It just it demanded to be

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heard and come out. So it's very rageful. However.

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The reason why it was like that was because our

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home was unstable because generational trauma

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was passed down, right? A lot of families do

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this. But for ours, it was we didn't know when

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we would be safe. You know, there was physical,

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sexual and psychological trauma passed down generationally.

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So nobody knew the difference. And there was

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no such thing as being safe. Even when you weren't

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getting hurt, you weren't psychologically safe

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because there was psychological manipulation

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happening. guilt trips, expectations, conformity,

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you know, all of these expectations a lot of

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people grow up with and they think that it's

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normal. It's not. It really is not. And then

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one clue that you can identify in your family

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too is are emotions and opinions allowed to be

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had? If it's not a safe environment, they will

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not be allowed there because you're supposed

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to conform or be something specific. And so I

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as a highly sensitive person, I had this huge

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ball of rage. I didn't know what to do with it.

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So I'm like, oh, I want to go be a badass in

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the military. So let me go do that. But as a

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woman, it was completely inauthentic. I was not

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happy there. I was I always felt like I was being

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controlled and told to conform to something that

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was expected of me. But That's because we also

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are attracted to things that continue to replay

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these same stories. And we have to deprogram

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ourselves to get out of it. And I didn't start

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to see it fully until I became a wife and a mother.

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When I as a woman decided I don't want to act

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like a man anymore, I don't want to be dominant.

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I don't want to be aggressive and I don't want

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to be cold or rageful because my temper was like.

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snap at a finger, I'll go like from zero to 100

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and there was no need for that. But I also needed

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to separate myself from people who would try

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to get me to conform. Anybody who dealt with

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control dynamics, I needed to get away. No matter

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how much I loved them and I wanted them to heal

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themselves, it was my decision to heal myself.

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So I had to change a lot of relationships dynamics.

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my own mindset, of course, my behaviors, but

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that helped me regulate my nervous system because

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it allowed me to be more authentic, which was

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actually more feminine. Did you? Was there just

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a choice there or was it something that just

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helps you shift that? That anger and I and I

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asked that because when again, when you tell

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your story like I'm looking at myself and I.

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was an angry little guy growing up. And I think

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it's because, you know, my upbringing on my mom's

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side was unstable. Like I was always moving here,

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moving there, different schools and all that

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kind of stuff. And I didn't know why I was angry.

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I didn't know why somebody looked at me the wrong

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way. I just was ready to fight. You know, I didn't

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know that until, you know, again, around 2005,

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I started working on myself. And for me, was

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just like I guess I was sick of being that way

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and things just kind of showed up for me because

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I was looking for that change not knowingly looking

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for it but just but kind of looking for it and

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it showed up. Right. Absolutely and and we can't

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integrate something in our lives that even if

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it does show up if we're not open to it. Yeah.

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You know, so you being open, that's why it was

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able to start integrating into your life. So

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several people had told me that I had anger issues

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or that I was a control freak because when we

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feel powerless We immediately want to control

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right? however when I started to make this shift

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it was because there was a couple of moments

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in time and and One was when I hit my son. He

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was six months old I actually said this on another

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podcast the other day for the first time, but

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obviously people need to hear it That's why the

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question keeps coming up But I hit him out of

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anger and he had this huge red mark and I wasn't

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abusive But that's not the point The point is

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in that moment when I saw my six -month -old

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with a red welt on his leg And it was because

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I couldn't manage myself I was like, absolutely

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not. I will never discipline my kids again when

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I'm angry So people would judge me. They would

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criticize me. You got to get control of your

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kids You got to teach them right for long and

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i'm just keep them out of their business Yeah,

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and eventually they see that my kids learn to

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respect me because when I came and set a boundary

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I absolutely meant it and you can't control me

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and manipulate me make me feel guilty because

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I've already managed my emotion before I address

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the problem with you You know, however during

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that period of time It was very hard for me to

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get out of my head because nobody else understood

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it Because I wasn't you know jumping at my son

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getting you know smart with me or you know their

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sarcasm or slamming the door or whatever, right?

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Walking away from me when I'm talking. I'm like,

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it's okay, because I'm going to collect myself

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and then I'll go back. But that was that was

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a huge turning point. Yeah, those moments. Yeah,

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they, they, they light up some, some, some signals

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for us to, you know, make a shift. And I know

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you talked about generational trauma. It, what

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I read is that it made you cold and aggressive.

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And Like that was the thing that kind of shifted

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you from just that way of being into, you know,

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where I kind of sense you being that like in

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peace and with clarity and the things that you

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share. Thank you. That's I, for the majority

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of the time, that's where I stay because I'm

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very particular with the people, places, things

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and habits and thought processes that I allow

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into my space. And again, part of it was realizing

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some people might think that you're stuck up

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because you don't negotiate on the things that

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you are willing and not willing to do, right?

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And that's okay. You know, I've made peace with

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that, but it did take work, right? So when you

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guard your peace and your energy like it's more

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important than money, it literally is your life

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force. But then all of a sudden, now you start

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to realize you get to embody peace no matter

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what happens in life. Yeah See there's a difference.

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I think maybe When people see that See you that

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way that's just perception from them. It's not

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this it's nothing on you Yeah, but you know,

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that's just kind of how it shows up, right? So

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I have a question for you when you started changing

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you said it was back in 2009 or 2005 I would

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say 2005 2009 was when I was actually Going into

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personal development and we're doing the work

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2005 shows up Right because there's a difference.

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There's a transition in our stages of change.

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What was the hardest period for you? To really

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jump in and take that accountability for yourself.

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What was your turning point? My turning point

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So a lot of it really I should say this really

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started to shift when my mom passed away in 2003

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um and then I was not dealing with it well right

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I was just not dealing with it and so the things

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that I was you know striving to do they just

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they were getting away from me so I was I was

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working to go to the Olympics so I was training

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with uh you know with the Olympic team and here

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in Georgia and then I just stopped because things

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were just like me not dealing with my mom's death

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things just started to like mount on me and then

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from Georgia moved to Los Angeles and it was

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just maybe it was the environment and I was like

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I needed to I needed to change. There was just

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a shift. Maybe it was just the environment. I

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just needed to shift and so I was searching for

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this searching for that even looked at. Don't

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tell nobody, but Scientology. Just to look at

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it, right? And I was like... You just said it

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on a podcast. I love that. Nobody, nobody in

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the audience talk about this, okay? It's a secret.

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Don't tell. But you know, that wasn't for me.

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And then I found Buddhism and I started practicing

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Buddhism. And then that was a thing that really

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began to just shift my inner being. I didn't

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know that that's what it was doing, though. Yeah.

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And then I started doing self -development. And

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that was, it was just, I was tired of losing.

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And I was just, I was just sick of it. And so

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that was just, that was just, you know, just

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that moment we just feel fed up with something.

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That's what it was for me. Yeah. That's beautiful.

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I actually had another moment. It was another

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very, very hard turning point. And I won't go

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into too much detail about the the situation

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specifically because it would be talking about

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somebody else and I don't want to do that. But

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I had a conversation with my stepdaughter and

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I had gotten her in our marriage. I'm divorced

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now, but I got her in the marriage when she was

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six and it was very, very hard. One, I needed

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to learn how to parent, right? And manage myself.

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And I didn't know how to parent my six month

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old. Like when we got married, he was six months

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old and she was six. So Like I needed to learn

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and grow myself up, right? And so when I remember

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when she was 11, we were standing in the hallway

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and I asked her, what do you think about us not

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dealing with anybody else? If you and I have

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a problem with each other, we come to each other.

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We don't vent to other people. We don't seek

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advice from other people. And we just have our

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relationship just between us. She said yes, and

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she is still she's 22 years old not told not

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23 She is wonderful in the Air Force and so emotionally

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mature And I believe that both of us grew each

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other up because we had that moment But it really

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took me saying you know what I need to stop acting

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like I know anything more than her because I'm

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an adult I don't you know we just need to do

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this together Yeah, I think this this brilliant

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are you? That I have a question somewhere around

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here, but I'm just kind of go off the cover just

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our conversation You talked about emotional intelligence

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with With about you know, gosh, I wish I remember

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the question is don't remember it, but you talked

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about Emotional intelligence work within emotional

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intelligence as far as connected with your nervous

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system what what is for somebody who is like

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like in the worlds that we talked about, how

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do they connect with that? Because I know emotional

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intelligence is a thing and maybe someone who

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is deep in the work and using work as a crutch,

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they don't know that they're in it. It's just

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what they think they do. That's who they are.

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Right. That is a really good point because when

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we're running from ourselves, we have no idea.

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Right like we might start to but it'll take a

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long time sometimes For us to have that wake

00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:44.789
-up call where all of a sudden I stopped running

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for myself and I confront it meaning me Head

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on right, which is a whole whole lot of accountability

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but the way that they could Maybe have that eye

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-opening moment is motivation, right? It helps

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to have motivation Nobody wants to do the work

00:22:01.769 --> 00:22:04.289
because it feels like crap and it takes a long

00:22:04.289 --> 00:22:07.940
time, right? it's a lot of work, but Just to

00:22:07.940 --> 00:22:10.880
know how amazing your nervous system is. This

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is your brain and your spinal cord and there's

00:22:14.019 --> 00:22:16.539
so many nerve endings that go through your entire

00:22:16.539 --> 00:22:19.779
body and it's connected to all of your senses.

00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:23.920
So this is what creates your reality. Now, if

00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:25.859
you want to change anything in your reality,

00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:27.920
it is not going to come through more hustle.

00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:30.019
It's going to come through more stabilization

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so you can actually shift inside you energetically

00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.400
what's being attracted to you. And then in terms

00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.799
of the filters to our brain, how you perceive

00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.480
things. So even if you are broke, you can be

00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.680
absolutely happy or and a lot of individuals

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that I work with are very because I do coaching

00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:51.160
as well. They are very successful and very wealthy

00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:56.160
and very unhappy. So no matter what you do externally,

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if you learn to harness your nervous system,

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which takes the healing like at the end of time,

00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.619
right, then you can actually live the life you

00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:06.789
want. So it can give you everything that you

00:23:06.789 --> 00:23:13.690
want. So that's really where I wanted to go.

00:23:13.869 --> 00:23:15.589
That's the conversation that we wanted to have

00:23:15.589 --> 00:23:17.450
about the nervous system. Because here's the

00:23:17.450 --> 00:23:20.769
thing. I don't know if I said it before or on

00:23:20.769 --> 00:23:24.450
the podcast with you, that I just started to

00:23:24.450 --> 00:23:28.650
understand what I guess the neuroscience of the

00:23:28.650 --> 00:23:30.130
nervous system. I don't know if I'm saying that

00:23:30.130 --> 00:23:36.029
right. But it is so Like I can I can feel the

00:23:36.029 --> 00:23:40.509
difference When I'm I guess what I'm breathing

00:23:40.509 --> 00:23:43.789
right and regulating myself through nervous system

00:23:43.789 --> 00:23:48.630
and and I know what we What we manifest on the

00:23:48.630 --> 00:23:50.230
outside come from what we're doing on the inside,

00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:56.589
right? You know and you talked about I Guess

00:23:56.589 --> 00:23:59.509
that kind of dysregulated nervous system is like

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it sabotages people or sabotages your performance

00:24:04.840 --> 00:24:08.700
What like what is how do you regulate your nervous

00:24:08.700 --> 00:24:12.180
system? Even if you if you know that it's nervous

00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:16.170
system, that's dysregulated or if you don't Right.

00:24:16.329 --> 00:24:19.369
Well, it is a process. It's a whole journey It's

00:24:19.369 --> 00:24:21.529
not a one and done and you don't implement one

00:24:21.529 --> 00:24:24.769
practice or one technique one coping skill Like

00:24:24.769 --> 00:24:27.230
that more of a band -aid fix for the present

00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:30.009
moment, which is helpful but it there's building

00:24:30.009 --> 00:24:33.029
blocks to it and it takes time and so what I

00:24:33.029 --> 00:24:36.890
would say is if somebody really wants to Optimize

00:24:36.890 --> 00:24:38.490
because those are the terms that I use we need

00:24:38.490 --> 00:24:41.150
to optimize it like it's a system, right? This

00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:44.819
goes into your water your diet, your exercise,

00:24:44.980 --> 00:24:47.759
your sleep, your de -stressing at the end of

00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:51.720
the day, your time outdoors, your schedule, your

00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.019
relationships, your mindset. There's so much,

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:58.900
right? But at the end of the day, what this is

00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:01.859
doing is helping you become a co -creator in

00:25:01.859 --> 00:25:04.599
the universe. And this goes into like law of

00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.960
attraction and energy psychology, which is absolutely

00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.789
fascinating in terms of neuroscience. But think

00:25:11.789 --> 00:25:13.569
about it, there's a part of our brain called

00:25:13.569 --> 00:25:16.609
the reticular activating system, and it's RAS,

00:25:16.970 --> 00:25:20.609
right? And this works directly with the thalamus,

00:25:20.730 --> 00:25:23.910
which this part creates filters, right? But the

00:25:23.910 --> 00:25:26.849
RAS is like a magnifying glass. You ever gone

00:25:26.849 --> 00:25:28.130
shopping for a car and you're like, oh, all of

00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:30.849
a sudden I want, I think I want a red one, right?

00:25:30.869 --> 00:25:33.849
So now all of a sudden you see those red cars

00:25:33.849 --> 00:25:36.369
everywhere. But if you change your mind, you're

00:25:36.369 --> 00:25:38.069
like, no, no, I think I'm gonna go for a white

00:25:38.069 --> 00:25:40.480
one. Now you will all of a sudden see white cars.

00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:44.339
They were there the whole time. Your reticular

00:25:44.339 --> 00:25:46.660
activating system just didn't see them because

00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:50.019
you didn't tell it to pick up on that. Now the

00:25:50.019 --> 00:25:52.059
problem with the reticular activating system

00:25:52.059 --> 00:25:54.359
is it's great, right? Like everybody wants, oh,

00:25:54.539 --> 00:25:56.500
show me a million dollars, right? Like it's gonna

00:25:56.500 --> 00:26:00.720
pop up in your life. It's working in partnership

00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.420
with the thalamus, which has the filters on it.

00:26:04.660 --> 00:26:06.980
These filters are unprocessed traumas, limiting

00:26:06.980 --> 00:26:10.609
beliefs. So if you have a filter of inadequacy,

00:26:11.170 --> 00:26:13.029
your reticular activating system is going to

00:26:13.029 --> 00:26:15.309
constantly be hearing, look for where I'm not

00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:17.170
good enough. And that's exactly what you're going

00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.970
to find. So once you resolve that filter, you

00:26:20.970 --> 00:26:23.930
take it off and you intentionally, this is us

00:26:23.930 --> 00:26:26.769
becoming a co -creator of our reality. You just

00:26:26.769 --> 00:26:28.950
took that filter off. Now you're going to intentionally

00:26:28.950 --> 00:26:32.089
put, I'm a badass on like, this is the filter

00:26:32.089 --> 00:26:33.789
you're seeing. And all of a sudden your reticular

00:26:33.789 --> 00:26:37.349
activating system. Starts trying to find those

00:26:37.349 --> 00:26:40.349
areas that you're rocking it in your life Yeah,

00:26:40.549 --> 00:26:43.529
so this is you intentionally using the mechanisms

00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:46.430
that are waiting for you in your brain Because

00:26:46.430 --> 00:26:49.789
then once you're starting to utilize this and

00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:52.390
you realize that you're a co -creator Then your

00:26:52.390 --> 00:26:55.529
vibration which is your positive moods your you're

00:26:55.529 --> 00:26:59.230
increasing in peace and love and joy they literally

00:26:59.230 --> 00:27:03.150
increase which then Gravitates all the positivity

00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:06.009
to you Instead of you having to go try to find

00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:09.009
it. So it works together with energy psychology

00:27:09.009 --> 00:27:11.690
Yeah, so like whether you're a high performer

00:27:11.690 --> 00:27:15.730
or someone working, you know a job that you know,

00:27:16.029 --> 00:27:18.450
that's not high performance just you know job

00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:23.589
It works for you too, right? Every single person

00:27:23.589 --> 00:27:30.150
has it right has the ability to do it and You

00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:32.390
had talked about well, I'm gonna go back first

00:27:32.539 --> 00:27:36.279
When you talked about the red car, I want a Rivian.

00:27:36.460 --> 00:27:38.539
I don't know if you know about Rivians, but I

00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:41.420
want a Rivian, right? And I have it posted on

00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:43.359
my wall, and I'm like, I want a Rivian. And I

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.779
just remember when I really started saying this

00:27:46.779 --> 00:27:49.799
is what I want, I start, you know, in my mind's

00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:54.180
eye, start driving it. I would then, and they're

00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:57.039
not... Popular popular, but you know, but it's

00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.599
so funny because like I think I was telling who

00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.720
I was telling maybe Yvonne I was like three days

00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:12.940
in a row that I see Rivians, right? But it just

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:16.019
let me know that when I'm in a in a space that

00:28:16.019 --> 00:28:18.660
I can really call that stuff to my life, you

00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:21.039
know, and I think you're saying this and with

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:25.220
the nervous system because I on a different podcasts

00:28:25.220 --> 00:28:28.779
you had said that the nervous system is like

00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:35.400
an antenna right and so if people are high performers

00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:39.920
nine to five is creators whoever if they're living

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.920
in the world of burnout and your nervous system

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.759
and antenna what can they do to really begin

00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.109
to shift that way of being right Well when you're

00:28:53.109 --> 00:28:54.950
talking about using the nervous system as an

00:28:54.950 --> 00:28:59.569
antenna it's picking up on things and we have

00:28:59.569 --> 00:29:03.829
us everything down to the Quantum level is vibration,

00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:06.990
right? Yes, we have molecules and you know our

00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:10.289
DNA but all that broken down even smaller It's

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:12.410
quantum physics, right? Like how everything works

00:29:12.410 --> 00:29:16.009
with everything else and we gravitate to similar

00:29:16.009 --> 00:29:19.069
energies So you can't have one. Let's say the

00:29:19.069 --> 00:29:22.799
job vibrates super super high but you vibrate

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.019
really, really low. Your antenna will not pick

00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:27.599
that up, even if it's right in front of you.

00:29:27.779 --> 00:29:30.660
And if it does pick it up, it will run screaming

00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:32.579
from it because the vibration doesn't match.

00:29:32.779 --> 00:29:36.400
It will literally repel each other. This is why

00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.740
we need to use our reticular activating system

00:29:38.740 --> 00:29:42.359
as a two way communication. If I'm calling something

00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:46.599
in, let's say a big one, of course, money and

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.059
love. Those are the two big ones, right? Everybody

00:29:49.059 --> 00:29:51.920
wants those. Let's say I'm calling in a partner,

00:29:52.299 --> 00:29:54.200
right? I want an intimate partner that I want

00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:55.980
to share my life with. I want to get married.

00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.700
And I'm going to use my reticular activating

00:29:58.700 --> 00:30:00.819
system and my thalamus. Remember, those are the

00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:03.599
filters. The reticular activating system is the

00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.640
magnifying glass. But I'm going to use these

00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.500
parts as a teacher, not as a, oh, nobody loves

00:30:09.500 --> 00:30:12.680
me. Nobody wants to stay with me, but as lessons

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.700
to see what inside me I still need to work on.

00:30:16.009 --> 00:30:18.490
So I start getting on a dating app and I start

00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:21.869
meeting these wonderful people. However, a couple

00:30:21.869 --> 00:30:23.869
weeks in, all of a sudden, they start talking

00:30:23.869 --> 00:30:26.769
down to me, right? And there's a theme. Instead

00:30:26.769 --> 00:30:29.109
of getting mad that, oh, nobody loves me, that

00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:31.210
would be victim mindset, I say, you know what?

00:30:31.630 --> 00:30:33.569
There's a filter that I have on my brain. That's

00:30:33.569 --> 00:30:35.650
why my reticular activating system is only finding

00:30:35.650 --> 00:30:39.349
that. So let me find out where I call them feeder

00:30:39.349 --> 00:30:42.099
memories. In the mental health field, actually,

00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:44.099
when we're talking about healing traumas from

00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:46.700
the past, they're all feeder memories. You have

00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:50.000
to find those, work on them, which sometimes

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.019
means you have to feel the emotions. Yeah, it

00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:55.359
was 25 years ago, who cares? You're getting it

00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.180
out of your system now. So you still have to

00:30:58.180 --> 00:31:00.819
dive in and work on it, then go back to the dating

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:04.180
app and reevaluate how you're doing. And intentionally

00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:07.119
put the positive filter on, people who respect

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.480
me and love me only come to me. and see how people

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.000
treat you differently. Because this is the power

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:14.640
that we have, but we have to take accountability

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:18.759
with it too. And you said feeder, F -E -T -E

00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.680
-R, feeder? Feeder, F -E -E -D -E -R. Feeder,

00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.880
feeder. Yeah, do you think it's not like the

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.099
problems that we have, it's kind of like a boiling

00:31:29.099 --> 00:31:31.880
pot of water, and on the top you see the boiling,

00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.799
and you see the steam. Those are the problems

00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.569
that we're conscious of. Problem is the fire.

00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:40.670
It's the heat under that. Those are the feeder

00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:44.329
memories. They feed the fire. And that's where

00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:48.910
you go in and you really shift those memories?

00:31:49.529 --> 00:31:52.849
Or what do you do? Okay. So you can do all kinds

00:31:52.849 --> 00:31:55.869
of things. One, some people go to therapy, right?

00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:58.869
Two, you can work with yourself with visualizations.

00:31:59.190 --> 00:32:02.049
You can journal. You can talk to those younger

00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:05.210
parts of yourselves out loud. and just bring

00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:07.750
up the memory. I would advise if you're going

00:32:07.750 --> 00:32:10.609
to do, let's say you're just talking to, let's

00:32:10.609 --> 00:32:12.670
say it was your 10 year old part, bring up a

00:32:12.670 --> 00:32:16.549
visual of them and then coach them and affirm

00:32:16.549 --> 00:32:20.470
their feelings, validate them. Some people think

00:32:20.470 --> 00:32:23.170
that it's cheesy. Who cares? It works because

00:32:23.170 --> 00:32:27.630
neuroplasticity is going to be connecting and

00:32:27.630 --> 00:32:30.029
you're going to be getting it to go in a different

00:32:30.029 --> 00:32:31.950
direction. Instead of feeling insecure, it's

00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:33.920
going to feel empowered. But you have to make

00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:38.039
that conscious shift. And you said feel. So feeling

00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.380
is an essential part of the shift. Right. If

00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:45.059
you don't feel for that 10 year old part of you.

00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.440
And this goes into feeling sorry for yourself.

00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.339
Who cares? You have to feel empathy for yourself.

00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.480
But people tend to want to be hard on themselves,

00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:57.740
which just all that all you're doing is you're

00:32:57.740 --> 00:33:00.099
continuing to hurt that part of you, which then

00:33:00.099 --> 00:33:02.839
in your reality. You're just causing more pain.

00:33:03.539 --> 00:33:05.839
Yeah. Yeah. So if you're a person right now,

00:33:05.859 --> 00:33:08.180
and you're like, OK, I hear you. I hear what

00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:14.299
you're saying. But my reality right now, I'm

00:33:14.299 --> 00:33:15.619
just going to use this word sucks, right? It

00:33:15.619 --> 00:33:21.259
sucks, right? How should I be feeling when money's

00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:26.079
not good, and billings are piling up, or I have

00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.660
no love in my life, or whatever it is? How am

00:33:28.660 --> 00:33:31.359
I supposed to? regulate my nervous system, or

00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.359
how am I supposed to feel good about my life

00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:39.220
when all these things are happening to me? So

00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:40.519
I don't know how many people are going to be

00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.880
able to see the video, but I'm holding up a book.

00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:46.680
It's called Radical Responsibility, and it is

00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.660
How to Move Beyond Blame, Fearlessly Live Your

00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:52.599
Highest Purpose and Become an Unstoppable Force

00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.380
for Good. It's by Dr. Fleet Mall. And it is a

00:33:57.380 --> 00:33:59.839
fascinating book. There's several more that are

00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.380
like that. But if you take radical accountability

00:34:03.380 --> 00:34:06.599
for your life, nothing can ever hold you back.

00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.679
Nothing's going to ever be so much that you can't

00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.880
move forward. But I'm not saying that it doesn't

00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.039
suck. You know, taking radical accountability

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.059
means if you're broke, look at the things that

00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:22.340
you're doing that are making you broke. Manage

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:24.219
those because you can feel empowered all of a

00:34:24.219 --> 00:34:26.610
sudden in a snap of fingers. You can feel empowered

00:34:26.610 --> 00:34:29.030
because you can actually do something about it.

00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:31.889
Then once you manage your behaviors, look at

00:34:31.889 --> 00:34:34.590
your mindset. Where are you negative? Where are

00:34:34.590 --> 00:34:36.829
you self -sabotaging? Where are you playing victim?

00:34:37.349 --> 00:34:41.090
That's a hard one. Own it. Absolutely own it.

00:34:41.150 --> 00:34:42.429
Be like, Oh crap, I was just playing victim.

00:34:42.690 --> 00:34:46.750
My bad. You know, and change it. Then once you've

00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:48.909
managed your behaviors, then you've managed your

00:34:48.909 --> 00:34:53.809
mindset. Then Intentionally put those positive

00:34:53.809 --> 00:34:56.530
filters on and go back out into the world and

00:34:56.530 --> 00:34:58.869
try to find something better Then let's say it

00:34:58.869 --> 00:35:01.989
was a crappy job that you didn't like leave it

00:35:01.989 --> 00:35:04.349
The money is not worth your vibration because

00:35:04.349 --> 00:35:05.969
if you're working in a crappy job, it's gonna

00:35:05.969 --> 00:35:09.190
hold you into that negative state Right. It's

00:35:09.190 --> 00:35:11.230
gonna make you feel the way that you used to

00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:14.090
because the new version of you cannot come in

00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:17.150
if you're still acting and living and Experiencing

00:35:17.150 --> 00:35:19.570
those same old things you have to change them

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.920
You talk about vibration Just say so you're working

00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.340
on working on different vibrations based on how

00:35:28.340 --> 00:35:30.820
we're feeling and things that we're putting out

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:36.059
How do you I guess there's probably a metric

00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:38.900
for What kind of vibration you're putting out

00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.340
there? So if someone is let's talk about love

00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:45.239
somebody is you know vibrating at a certain level,

00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.519
but they want a different level how they How

00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.119
do they connect with a different higher vibration?

00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.519
I don't know if I'm asking the question correctly,

00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.420
but how do they connect with a higher vibration

00:35:55.420 --> 00:36:02.139
so that they can? Yeah, okay Yeah, this is why

00:36:02.139 --> 00:36:04.880
they're right behind me during podcast because

00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:11.559
power verse four by Dr. David Hawkins He actually

00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:16.800
has an algorithmic scale and it holds or it depicts

00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.900
the different Frequencies and emotional states

00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:22.960
and states of being this is your mindset right

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.719
which actually controls your reality But it shows

00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:30.360
you what emotional range you're in Now if you

00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.019
don't like this emotional range your job is to

00:36:33.019 --> 00:36:34.559
like we were talking about take accountability

00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.300
Make those shifts deal with the traumas that

00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:40.260
are making you feel that way and then you can

00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.980
start to move forward But the things that I was

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:45.480
talking about earlier all go into that Let's

00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.440
say you want to have a positive mindset, but

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.880
you don't want to stop smoking. Well, you're

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.380
still holding yourself back. You know, it's still

00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:56.280
a negative thing. Anything that hurts you is

00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.219
going to hold you back. So somebody who wants

00:36:59.219 --> 00:37:02.139
to vibrate, let's say you want true love, right?

00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:05.599
So you want to vibrate at the place of unconditional

00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.179
love, which is an actual vibration. I think it's

00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:11.619
like 528 or something. Go on YouTube and look

00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:14.679
up frequency music. There's all kinds of different

00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.460
frequencies and it can kind of give you an idea

00:37:17.460 --> 00:37:21.559
of where to start. Right. But let's say me personally,

00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.659
I want somebody who will never look at another

00:37:25.659 --> 00:37:28.500
woman who has never had another experience with

00:37:28.500 --> 00:37:30.360
another woman that's better than me. This is

00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.800
all jealousy. Right. But he can't leave me. He

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.920
has to stay with me forever. So I'm being controlling

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.699
now and I'm being possessive. When he goes to

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:40.539
work, if he works too late, now I'm jealous.

00:37:40.579 --> 00:37:43.539
He has to come home because I want him with me,

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.820
what I'm doing is I'm lowering myself saying,

00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.059
I want true love, but I'm not willing to give

00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:54.079
it. So we have to, the accountability is huge

00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.539
when it comes to your vibration, because the

00:37:56.539 --> 00:37:58.659
universe is not gonna lie to you. It's not gonna

00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:00.039
bring you what you're asking for. It's gonna

00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.199
bring you what you are and what you need. That's

00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:08.630
the truth. It's a crappy truth, right? I was

00:38:08.630 --> 00:38:10.250
about to say it's a truth that a lot of people

00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:13.670
don't want to hear. That goes into the accountability,

00:38:14.110 --> 00:38:21.590
right? What I found interesting too, you have

00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:29.889
a cognitive processing method. I do. stress individuals

00:38:29.889 --> 00:38:32.650
clear blockages out of their nervous system.

00:38:33.690 --> 00:38:35.409
Does that kind of fit with what we're talking

00:38:35.409 --> 00:38:37.750
about or is that a whole different method? No,

00:38:38.190 --> 00:38:40.610
all the things that I do work to optimize the

00:38:40.610 --> 00:38:44.050
nervous system, but I call it cognitive processing

00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:47.650
because I originally, with my 15 years in the

00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:49.550
mental health field, I was working with individuals

00:38:49.550 --> 00:38:53.210
to heal trauma and I was trained in what's called

00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:55.929
eye movement desynthetization and reprocessing.

00:38:56.010 --> 00:39:00.710
It's EMDR. and this connects your neural networks

00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:03.610
with unprocessed information which is your traumas

00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:08.289
with your optical nerves and a lot of there I

00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:11.969
was certified in this modality of therapy which

00:39:11.969 --> 00:39:15.969
is highly highly effective because it reprocesses

00:39:15.969 --> 00:39:18.969
which is organizing information that's held within

00:39:18.969 --> 00:39:21.090
your nervous system your brain and your your

00:39:21.090 --> 00:39:25.269
body and I noticed that there was an eye wobble

00:39:25.420 --> 00:39:27.199
when I was working with a lot of my clients,

00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:29.900
because you actually move your eyes left to right,

00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:32.239
left to right, and there's that cadence, it's

00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.380
actually stimulating bilateral stimulation, your

00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:36.880
left and your right hemisphere to organize the

00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.960
information. So as I started noticing, and I'm

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.719
more like a rebel, I will definitely go off script

00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.280
and I will break the rules, because I'm like,

00:39:45.300 --> 00:39:47.380
no, that's interesting, I'm sure that's a thing,

00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:50.420
right? And because I'm also a naturopathic doctor,

00:39:50.460 --> 00:39:52.460
so I believe that the intelligence of the body

00:39:52.780 --> 00:39:55.320
is so much smarter than all of us who think we

00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.760
know everything. So I was certified, but I went

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.639
completely off, because there's a script and

00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.139
everything with it, because I wanted to follow

00:40:05.139 --> 00:40:08.500
what the eyes were doing. And when I did, I realized

00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:10.659
there's another, there's actually, his name is

00:40:10.659 --> 00:40:13.559
David Grant. He created or discovered what's

00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:17.000
called brain spotting. And this is because he

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.219
was also an EMDR therapist. when he discovered

00:40:20.219 --> 00:40:22.840
the eye wobble as well this is the eyes wanting

00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.460
to stay in that spot because if you're looking

00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:28.079
in your visual field you're not looking at the

00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.280
things and the people around you a lot of times

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.199
you're looking for the information inside your

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.179
own brain so where you look it depends on what

00:40:37.179 --> 00:40:39.579
access you're getting to that information inside

00:40:39.579 --> 00:40:43.340
you so what i did was i stopped using emdr so

00:40:43.340 --> 00:40:45.380
much i started using brain spotting a whole lot

00:40:45.380 --> 00:40:49.239
more and i realized just how quickly People were

00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.320
healing and sometimes it was a little too much

00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.559
So there's a something called a window of tolerance,

00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:58.340
which is your emotional capacity And if you're

00:40:58.340 --> 00:41:00.679
not within that window of tolerance, it's usually

00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.019
not a good thing for the client They need to

00:41:03.019 --> 00:41:06.360
stay within their own capacity to feel in order

00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.340
to regulate because it's like controlled healing

00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:13.079
instead of Too much too soon is is actually too

00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.429
much right? There is a such thing as that So

00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:20.429
what I did is I actually stopped working with

00:41:20.429 --> 00:41:24.909
individuals who were not used to very, very high

00:41:24.909 --> 00:41:28.730
pace, high stress, thus the peak performers and

00:41:28.730 --> 00:41:30.730
working with a lot of entrepreneurs who are used

00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:34.429
to taking risks and feeling that uncomfortable

00:41:34.429 --> 00:41:38.170
stress and still pushing through it. So I actually

00:41:38.170 --> 00:41:41.050
created my own technique. that gets in a little

00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:44.090
bit deeper than brain spotting because brain

00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:47.230
spotting will still let your brain block you

00:41:47.230 --> 00:41:49.349
because there's dissociative barriers, there's

00:41:49.349 --> 00:41:52.849
defense barriers, avoidance, denial, all those

00:41:52.849 --> 00:41:55.510
areas of our brain. And we can still process

00:41:55.510 --> 00:41:58.909
information, but it's not all of the information.

00:41:59.849 --> 00:42:03.030
And I like to be very, very effective because

00:42:03.030 --> 00:42:06.210
I truly believe if you push past the discomfort,

00:42:06.929 --> 00:42:09.170
you could if you want, you could change the world.

00:42:09.420 --> 00:42:12.079
Your potential is literally waiting for you.

00:42:12.420 --> 00:42:15.039
Your brain and your body, they want to evolve.

00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.719
But if we are not comfortable pushing past our

00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.820
discomfort, then we're not going to get there.

00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.000
So I only work with individuals who are high

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.500
stress, high performance because, and I tell

00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:30.059
them before, this is going to be uncomfortable.

00:42:30.460 --> 00:42:32.760
But then I use their optical nerves, and this

00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.760
is where cognitive processing came to be. And

00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.800
even then, sometimes they're like, can I just

00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.699
take a break? Because it is a lot, right? But

00:42:40.699 --> 00:42:42.400
the nervous system is actually healing itself.

00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:47.679
That's why it's so effective. OK, so you work

00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.900
only with high performance, which is, you know,

00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:54.619
that's what I found out. So, man, so when you're

00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:58.420
dealing with the high performers, is it is the

00:42:58.420 --> 00:43:03.150
fact that they are okay to go to the uncomfortable

00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:07.050
spaces because of the level of Where they are

00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:10.670
in their lives It's actually it's not necessarily

00:43:10.670 --> 00:43:12.650
about the level of their lives. It's about their

00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:15.750
level of accountability If you tell somebody

00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:19.849
who is always and I hate to use these words playing

00:43:19.849 --> 00:43:22.030
victim But that's the best way that I could describe

00:43:22.030 --> 00:43:25.710
it If you are not used to holding the accountability

00:43:25.710 --> 00:43:27.969
and the responsibility for your own life when

00:43:27.969 --> 00:43:31.019
your nervous system all of a sudden Shows you

00:43:31.019 --> 00:43:34.719
it's gonna be catastrophic You're gonna fall

00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.440
apart because you're not used to even taking

00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.179
a little bit of accountability. It's too hard

00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:43.340
Right. However, when you're dealing with somebody

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:45.480
who has a lot of responsibility They're used

00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.699
to fast pace and they're used to people saying

00:43:47.699 --> 00:43:50.139
hey You you need to get your head out of your

00:43:50.139 --> 00:43:52.159
butt because you're hurting people or you're

00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.320
you're moving too fast You need to pay attention

00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.800
those individuals who are used to that. They're

00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.929
usually jerks But they're used to being called

00:43:59.929 --> 00:44:02.690
a jerk. Then they're like, oh yeah, yeah, you're

00:44:02.690 --> 00:44:04.670
right. I was a jerk. So maybe I should change

00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:08.130
something. So let me go take accountability because

00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:11.150
they've been used to being called a jerk or mean

00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:16.070
or usually it's selfish for so long. Their level

00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:19.030
of accountability is actually higher. So their

00:44:19.030 --> 00:44:22.869
emotional capacity is more resilient than somebody

00:44:22.869 --> 00:44:24.929
who's been playing victim their whole life who's

00:44:24.929 --> 00:44:27.880
never had to take accountability. You know, this

00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.960
may take us off a little bit. I hope not. Well,

00:44:32.860 --> 00:44:38.059
I was listening to somebody that who's he's a,

00:44:38.059 --> 00:44:40.219
I guess it's like a business consultant coach.

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.019
And he was just talking about how he, he'll have

00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:48.719
more dogs than children because he say, you know,

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.059
his words, human suck. And he was talking about,

00:44:52.300 --> 00:44:54.440
there's this part where he was talking about

00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.239
humans. I guess the clients that he was working

00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.320
with, they didn't want to take responsibility

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.320
of the results that they were getting for their

00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.980
business. He would say, let's do this, let's

00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:08.380
do that, let's do this, let's do that. But then

00:45:08.380 --> 00:45:12.440
the client would say, well, I don't like the

00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.340
way you're doing that, and then blame him for

00:45:14.340 --> 00:45:16.400
not getting the results that they want, even

00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.059
though he can show them how to get them. And

00:45:20.059 --> 00:45:25.159
I was assert to say that a lot of humanity is

00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.280
that way in a way that a lot of humanity won't

00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.280
take accountability for different things in their

00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.159
life, which I think is kind of like, it helps,

00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.320
or I don't know if it helps, but it causes a

00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:45.280
certain social structure, right? It does. So

00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:49.880
what could, in this conversation, what could

00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.920
somebody do to really start to, even if they're

00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.119
not a high performer, what could they do to really

00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.880
look at, you know, the things that we're talking

00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.260
about to really begin to take? Well, first awareness,

00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:03.960
I know. But after that, like, what could they

00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.920
do to start to take accountability for the things

00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.420
that they won't take accountability for? I know

00:46:09.420 --> 00:46:12.639
that's probably a wild question, but. No, it

00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.440
does make sense. The first thing that I was thinking,

00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.039
though, when you were telling me the story about

00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.239
the about the other guy. is I'm thinking, well,

00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.460
what is inside that coach that's attracting those

00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:25.360
kind of clients? You know, I didn't think about

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.679
that. Our filters are tricky because we think

00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.280
our reality is real when it's really only a mirror

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.719
to showing you that he may be taking full accountability

00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.920
in his business, but not taking accountability

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.559
in somewhere else in his life. Either way, it's

00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:43.159
there. So for somebody whether and and you're

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.860
talking about high performers like. Like there's

00:46:46.860 --> 00:46:48.940
not the average person out there making a nine

00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:51.659
-to -five job who isn't a high performer You're

00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:54.300
probably really working a lot and trying your

00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:56.440
very very best. There's still a high performer

00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.900
in there You know your job is to optimize that

00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:02.219
figure out what your goals are and then direct

00:47:02.219 --> 00:47:05.920
your intentions To be able to be you know, wherever

00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.900
you want in five ten years, right? So I think

00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:11.219
there's a lot of average people who are acting

00:47:11.219 --> 00:47:12.820
like they're average when they're really high

00:47:12.820 --> 00:47:17.710
performers However, the way that they can start

00:47:17.710 --> 00:47:20.090
taking accountability, because that was originally

00:47:20.090 --> 00:47:24.190
your question, was when situations like that

00:47:24.190 --> 00:47:26.989
happen, this situation in my life I don't like,

00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:31.130
so what is it in me that could possibly be bringing

00:47:31.130 --> 00:47:33.710
that in? What is it trying to teach me, or what

00:47:33.710 --> 00:47:36.869
is it trying to show me? Then address that, because

00:47:36.869 --> 00:47:40.269
that will naturally start building more accountability.

00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:42.969
The more accountability you take, the more your

00:47:42.969 --> 00:47:44.550
nervous system is going to try to heal itself.

00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.340
because then you're not working against it you're

00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:52.239
working with it. As you're saying that I'm thinking

00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.219
like well I guess I'm seeing in my my mind's

00:47:56.219 --> 00:48:00.420
eye this like a shift in their reality right

00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:03.980
because then their reality is mirroring a different

00:48:03.980 --> 00:48:06.360
way of being that they're calling out for themselves.

00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.659
Absolutely but they have to allow that reality

00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:12.400
shift to happen because a lot of it is letting

00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:16.929
go too. Besides accountability, it's a lot of

00:48:16.929 --> 00:48:24.530
letting go. There was a part that self -care,

00:48:24.570 --> 00:48:29.230
I think that may help with that too. I had a

00:48:29.230 --> 00:48:31.570
guest on and she talked about self -care and

00:48:31.570 --> 00:48:35.489
a couple of guests on, that they were talking

00:48:35.489 --> 00:48:38.570
about self -care and being accountable for those

00:48:38.570 --> 00:48:45.050
just taking care of yourself. Could that support

00:48:45.050 --> 00:48:50.190
in, you know, just being able to say, you know

00:48:50.190 --> 00:48:51.849
what, let me take more accountability. If I'm

00:48:51.849 --> 00:48:53.550
taking accountability for my self care or myself,

00:48:53.889 --> 00:48:55.349
then I could start taking accountability for

00:48:55.349 --> 00:48:58.429
other things that maybe I'm not being, you know,

00:48:58.570 --> 00:49:02.690
accountable for. Exactly. I would say absolutely.

00:49:03.090 --> 00:49:05.150
If you have to start somewhere, start there.

00:49:05.789 --> 00:49:09.550
Let's say you're not so comfortable taking accountability

00:49:09.550 --> 00:49:11.460
in your relationship. Right? Because that one's

00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:14.179
always the hardest for some people. The other

00:49:14.179 --> 00:49:16.460
one is the job. Right? Like the bad things that

00:49:16.460 --> 00:49:19.019
are happening, the pay, like, why is that my

00:49:19.019 --> 00:49:21.840
fault? Well, if you can't do that yet, do the

00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.480
self -care, the water, the diet, the exercise,

00:49:24.579 --> 00:49:27.699
the sleep, the de -stressing at the end of the

00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:29.159
day. And then the other one that I, because I

00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.920
usually I call them my big six, that the sixth

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.579
one is your time outdoors. You have to be around

00:49:34.579 --> 00:49:37.659
the elements. But if you start with those things

00:49:37.659 --> 00:49:41.380
and just start with one at a time. Optimize your

00:49:41.380 --> 00:49:43.699
water intake shoot for a gallon of spring water

00:49:43.699 --> 00:49:46.059
alkaline water every single day That's all you

00:49:46.059 --> 00:49:48.880
got to do make that promise put it on your calendar

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.579
and then once it's integrated into your life

00:49:51.579 --> 00:49:55.099
Go to the next one Optimize that one go to the

00:49:55.099 --> 00:49:57.739
next one optimize that one before you realize

00:49:57.739 --> 00:49:59.519
that your nervous system has already been healing

00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.579
itself Because the nervous system is taking clues

00:50:02.579 --> 00:50:05.300
from you Do you want to live in the past and

00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:08.519
the old yucky energy or the lower vibrational

00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:11.099
state? or the lower level of consciousness that

00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:13.380
you are just not aware that you can live the

00:50:13.380 --> 00:50:16.920
life of your dreams? Or do you want to kick ass

00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.440
at life and really like show up for yourself,

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.800
right? Because once you start showing your nervous

00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.019
system that you want to be a boss in your own

00:50:25.019 --> 00:50:28.880
life, it will start letting you. You know, when

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.219
you say show up for yourself, I remember this

00:50:31.219 --> 00:50:36.000
is maybe a few years ago. I remember when I I

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.480
think because I had health issues and right after

00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:43.500
I got a kidney transplant there was a program

00:50:43.500 --> 00:50:46.320
that I was in and it was like team management

00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.840
development leadership program and I remember

00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.480
it was a year long and after that year I really

00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.440
felt it was hard it was hard man but at the end

00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.119
of it I really was very proud of myself because

00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.119
there's, you know, I was, you know, shifting

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.480
myself, you know, and I really remember saying,

00:51:09.380 --> 00:51:13.719
man, I showed up for myself. And I said, I showed

00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.480
if I can continue to show up for myself, then

00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.199
I have the capacity to continue to show up for

00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:21.139
other people. And I think that was just one of

00:51:21.139 --> 00:51:24.199
the most powerful transitions that I've had in

00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:26.760
my entire life. Of course, you know, being older

00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:32.039
really supported that, but You know That's a

00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:35.119
message. I think for people really to show up

00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.159
for yourself. Take care of yourself. Take care

00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:41.219
of the traumas that you talked about and Really

00:51:41.219 --> 00:51:43.039
take accountability for who you are for yourself

00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.019
and then you can do it for other people Absolutely.

00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.960
I see I'm could think about it like projections,

00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.099
right? We always project whether you're projecting

00:51:52.099 --> 00:51:56.300
something bad or projecting something good Either

00:51:56.300 --> 00:51:59.059
way like we are projecting so you get to make

00:51:59.059 --> 00:52:00.719
a conscious decision if you're gonna project

00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.400
good unto the world But there's so many people

00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.960
out there who have not done the healing and don't

00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.400
take the accountability that still try to project

00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.239
good They want to save people they want to tell

00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.019
people what to do They want to be the leaders

00:52:14.019 --> 00:52:16.340
or the business owners because it gives you control

00:52:16.340 --> 00:52:19.139
right and tell everybody else how they're supposed

00:52:19.139 --> 00:52:21.480
to live They're just projecting what they're

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.320
needing to do for themselves, and they just haven't

00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.039
seen it yet So you can choose to be one of those

00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.980
people, or you can say, oh, no, I don't really

00:52:28.980 --> 00:52:31.639
have it all together. Let me get my stuff taken

00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.260
care of, and then we can even see if I can help

00:52:34.260 --> 00:52:37.219
other people do it. So that's a lot of problems.

00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.719
Yeah. I think that was probably the story that

00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:42.699
I lived in for a minute. I was like, hey, man,

00:52:42.699 --> 00:52:48.380
I'm a mess. Yes. At different times, we all are.

00:52:48.380 --> 00:52:51.500
So that helps to know, right? Yeah. Yeah, it

00:52:51.500 --> 00:52:56.820
definitely does. You know, there's so many ways

00:52:56.820 --> 00:52:59.320
I can go with this, but you have a company that

00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:03.260
we talked about, Vision Expansio. Does that say

00:53:03.260 --> 00:53:06.440
that correctly? Yep. All right. And it says your

00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.960
aim is to create a world where healing and emotional

00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.440
intelligence are the foundation of human evolution.

00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.559
What is that in your words and the way that you're

00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.500
going to explain it? What does that mean? Well,

00:53:20.500 --> 00:53:23.889
it should also say self -leadership. in that

00:53:23.889 --> 00:53:27.650
mission statement, but that's the way that I

00:53:27.650 --> 00:53:31.769
see it. And that's the reason why it was created.

00:53:32.349 --> 00:53:34.949
I do public speaking and I have online coaching

00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:37.590
programs. I'm coaching one -on -one, but I'm

00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:39.769
putting them online right now to make sure that

00:53:39.769 --> 00:53:42.670
they're available for the average person. But

00:53:42.670 --> 00:53:45.730
at the end of the day, my goal is to increase

00:53:45.730 --> 00:53:49.210
consciousness, which is you actually having more

00:53:49.210 --> 00:53:52.429
power over your reality. to live the life that

00:53:52.429 --> 00:53:55.989
you want. But a lot of that comes with accountability.

00:53:56.829 --> 00:53:59.530
And I would like to, we're creating a prototype

00:53:59.530 --> 00:54:01.869
for an emotional intelligence certification this

00:54:01.869 --> 00:54:05.550
year to implement in police departments, the

00:54:05.550 --> 00:54:07.829
school system, the healthcare system. Because

00:54:07.829 --> 00:54:09.929
if we have more people who can take accountability,

00:54:10.389 --> 00:54:12.670
and if we have more emotionally grounded individuals

00:54:12.670 --> 00:54:14.190
who've worked on their trauma, so they're not

00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:18.030
projecting anymore, and they are more conscious,

00:54:18.510 --> 00:54:20.889
it will actually shift the entire country. because

00:54:20.889 --> 00:54:24.650
those systems are they're actually what lead

00:54:24.650 --> 00:54:31.150
the country. I am astounded. I was just saying

00:54:31.150 --> 00:54:33.730
that I'm astounded by the people that we choose

00:54:33.730 --> 00:54:37.110
to be on it and that agreed to be on this podcast.

00:54:37.110 --> 00:54:41.469
I was just talking to a guest yesterday who who

00:54:41.469 --> 00:54:48.170
has an invention that can, you know, really work

00:54:48.170 --> 00:54:51.829
towards stopping school shootings because they

00:54:51.829 --> 00:54:54.630
because their system they're what I don't know.

00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:57.829
I know what it's called. It's called BMRT. I'm

00:54:57.829 --> 00:54:59.389
not going to say the name because I would butcher

00:54:59.389 --> 00:55:01.489
it biometric something something something something

00:55:01.489 --> 00:55:04.789
but because of who words in the world in the

00:55:04.789 --> 00:55:08.969
world of quantum physics that it can go you know

00:55:08.969 --> 00:55:11.889
go through walls and all that kind of stuff and

00:55:11.889 --> 00:55:15.389
when you were saying you know what your mission

00:55:15.389 --> 00:55:18.630
is like it just it's not a whole different another

00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:23.489
level of how we could be as human beings as a

00:55:23.489 --> 00:55:28.130
as a just as a human race right and so what you're

00:55:28.130 --> 00:55:30.090
you know supporting and what you're putting out

00:55:30.090 --> 00:55:34.369
there and what you're um really sharing with

00:55:34.369 --> 00:55:38.369
the world and um putting out there I think is

00:55:38.369 --> 00:55:41.050
it's an amazing it's amazing thing you know thank

00:55:41.050 --> 00:55:45.250
you we really appreciate that yeah actually your

00:55:45.250 --> 00:55:46.989
your contribution you know to the to the world

00:55:46.989 --> 00:55:51.750
and so It took you something some time and through

00:55:51.750 --> 00:55:58.070
something to get to where you are right now It

00:55:58.070 --> 00:56:02.190
took something to get here and I mean I could

00:56:02.190 --> 00:56:07.449
do more and you have a you have a When I say

00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:09.449
do more have more conversation with you, but

00:56:09.449 --> 00:56:13.409
You have a you have a podcast yourself right

00:56:13.409 --> 00:56:16.639
resilient minds I do. Yes, it's resilient minds,

00:56:16.820 --> 00:56:22.780
stories of grit, growth, and success. Yeah. When

00:56:22.780 --> 00:56:24.719
did you start that podcast and how did that come

00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:29.239
about? I started it back in I think October.

00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.840
Maybe it was September because we weren't trying

00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.000
to optimize it or get ideal guests on. We were

00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:39.739
just trying to play with it, see if we can create

00:56:39.739 --> 00:56:42.699
a system, and it started flowing really well.

00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:45.130
So then we started narrowing down who you're

00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:46.849
gonna have on the podcast and we're working on

00:56:46.849 --> 00:56:49.869
optimizing it now for a wider reach Now that

00:56:49.869 --> 00:56:53.329
we have our systems in place But the goal of

00:56:53.329 --> 00:56:56.050
it is to really show people and they they have

00:56:56.050 --> 00:56:58.670
to actually have a net worth of a specific number

00:56:58.670 --> 00:57:01.050
Before they can be on the show and they have

00:57:01.050 --> 00:57:03.849
to be very conscious people and they have to

00:57:03.849 --> 00:57:08.389
take care of themselves because You'd be surprised

00:57:08.389 --> 00:57:11.389
how many multi millionaires out there who are

00:57:11.389 --> 00:57:13.429
wanting to impact the world. They are conscious,

00:57:14.010 --> 00:57:17.789
they're co -creators with humanity and they're

00:57:17.789 --> 00:57:21.590
really trying to help. But people tend to see

00:57:21.590 --> 00:57:23.289
multi -millionaires as, oh, you've always had

00:57:23.289 --> 00:57:27.389
it easy. No, a lot of times they've spent decades

00:57:27.389 --> 00:57:30.329
working on themselves so they could make the

00:57:30.329 --> 00:57:33.150
millions so they can help more, right? And so

00:57:33.150 --> 00:57:35.409
that's what those are for. So moving forward.

00:57:36.099 --> 00:57:38.840
There's going to be different kinds of people

00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.119
like the guests on the on the shows. We've already

00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:44.679
started. But the goal is to show like the average

00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.699
person. Right. No, you are you are a high achiever.

00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.760
You do have high potential. You are ready to

00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.739
evolve. And this is what's waiting for you. But

00:57:51.739 --> 00:57:54.260
you have to do the work. Yeah. Right. Like if

00:57:54.260 --> 00:57:56.119
you want to be a boss of your own life and you

00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.179
want to be a multimillionaire, you have to do

00:57:58.179 --> 00:58:03.139
the work. Which is amazing. And I'm glad that

00:58:03.139 --> 00:58:07.550
you said it that way. First of all, I'm creating

00:58:07.550 --> 00:58:14.809
that for myself, first of all. Secondly, I think

00:58:14.809 --> 00:58:20.090
there can be so much just collaboration with

00:58:20.090 --> 00:58:23.929
just a conscious way of being if you have millions,

00:58:24.210 --> 00:58:26.510
billions, or thousands. You know what I'm saying?

00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:34.280
Or nothing. Or nothing. do this thing together

00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:38.139
this whole human human uh just just humankind

00:58:38.139 --> 00:58:40.980
right we can we can have a different way of being

00:58:40.980 --> 00:58:44.559
a different life um if we just step tap into

00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:49.280
that that conscious way of being absolutely i

00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:53.000
believe that um man i don't want to get off but

00:58:53.000 --> 00:59:01.659
here we go So, how can other people in our audience

00:59:01.659 --> 00:59:06.280
get in touch with you and connect with you? Absolutely.

00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.699
The fastest way is obviously online. Dr. Jacqueline

00:59:11.699 --> 00:59:15.119
Campbell, and don't spell out the doctor at drjacquelinecampbell

00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.519
.com. That's my website. But I'm also on social

00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:24.639
media, Instagram and Facebook under Vision Expansio

00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.659
and LinkedIn. Just look for Dr. Jacqueline Campbell,

00:59:27.820 --> 00:59:30.739
NDLPCS. Those are my credentials, so it's in

00:59:30.739 --> 00:59:33.940
the name. But I'm here if anybody has any questions

00:59:33.940 --> 00:59:36.019
or needs resources, needs to be pointed into

00:59:36.019 --> 00:59:38.579
the right direction. But at the end of the day,

00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.320
I have so many books and there's videos out there.

00:59:42.659 --> 00:59:44.619
There's frequency music that you can just look

00:59:44.619 --> 00:59:48.239
on YouTube right now. If anybody wants executive

00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:51.059
coaching, if they want to build wealth for themselves,

00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.320
but make sure that they're doing it in a fulfilling

00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:59.199
way, not in a stressful hustle kind of way. I

00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:03.059
am still seeing clients, but it all comes down

01:00:03.059 --> 01:00:05.159
to them needing to work on their past. So it

01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:08.260
doesn't hold them back, elevate their emotional

01:00:08.260 --> 01:00:10.059
intelligence, which means you have to regulate

01:00:10.059 --> 01:00:12.440
your emotions and also feel them. You can't just

01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.420
cut them off, but then you have to do the hard

01:00:14.420 --> 01:00:17.500
work to get there. Like it is so possible, but

01:00:17.500 --> 01:00:20.320
you can't see your future clearly if you're stuck

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:25.760
in the past. Amen to that. There's a whole section

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.280
I had here to talk about your books and how that

01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:33.500
all connected. No worries, an hour is not enough.

01:00:34.340 --> 01:00:38.179
It's not enough. An hour is not enough. Man,

01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:41.480
I truly thank you for being on the podcast and

01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:46.099
sharing your wisdom, your life story, just everything

01:00:46.099 --> 01:00:51.309
that you bring to humanity. So thank you. so

01:00:51.309 --> 01:00:53.949
much for being who you are, being a contribution

01:00:53.949 --> 01:00:57.110
to the world, and just sharing yourself on the

01:00:57.110 --> 01:01:02.949
podcast. So thank you. Thanks. Yeah, absolutely.

01:01:04.010 --> 01:01:06.170
You know, I live for these conversations, you

01:01:06.170 --> 01:01:09.309
know. I truly live for these conversations. And

01:01:09.309 --> 01:01:14.590
so my producer, Vaughn, she knows, you know,

01:01:14.690 --> 01:01:17.570
first of all, the podcast itself, what we're

01:01:17.570 --> 01:01:20.170
working to do. But she knows the kind of conversation

01:01:20.170 --> 01:01:27.130
that thrive off of and yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

01:01:27.530 --> 01:01:30.449
I love it. Um and so thank you. Thank you. Thank

01:01:30.449 --> 01:01:33.110
you and as we always say, uh let's make thriving

01:01:33.110 --> 01:01:36.869
our new normal and I'll see you on the next podcast.