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From time to time, I like to revisit conversations

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that stay with me long after the microphone has

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turned off, conversations that had substance,

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conversations that hit on something real about

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the human condition. And this right here, this

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conversation is one of them. So over the next

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few weeks, I'm bringing back a handful of episodes

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that I believe deserve another listen, not because

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they were popular, but because the message is

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still relevant, incredibly relevant to where

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people find themselves today. So people today

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really are thinking or rethinking their careers,

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they are rethinking their purpose, and they're

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rebuilding their life after disruption. And when

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I think about conversations that speak directly

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to that moment, the one I had with Shane Perry

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immediately came to my mind. So Shane has spent

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decades studying something that affects every

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one of us. The question is, why do people say

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they want more out of life, but then quietly

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stay inside the same patterns year after year.

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So Shane has built successful businesses. He's

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mentored people who became financially independent.

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And over time, he began to see something very

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clearly, which is it is not that people do not

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want success. It is that most people never challenge

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the comfort zone that keeps them exactly where

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they are. So in this conversation, Shane talks

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about something I think is incredibly incredibly

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important, especially right now, the idea that

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growth requires disruption, not chaos for the

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sake of chaos, but a willingness to interrupt

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the habits, the thinking and the patterns that

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quietly keep us playing small. One of the one

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thing that really stood out to me as well is

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when we record this episode was his perspective

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on the 90 day cycle instead of thinking about

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success. as some distant event down the road,

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he encourages people to focus on 90 day blocks,

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where you set a target, build new habits around

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that target, and then evaluate the results. It's

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really simple, right? But it is powerful. And

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another idea that stuck with me is what he calls

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negative motivation. Sometimes the reason we

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push forward is not because of what we want to

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achieve, but because we reach a moment where

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we refuse to stay where we are. It's like, it's

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enough, we don't want anymore, right? And if

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you've ever been through disruption in your life,

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you know exactly what that moment feels like.

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So as you listen to this conversation, I want

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you to think about one question. One, where in

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your life have you become comfortable where you

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know you are capable of more? Because sometimes

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the biggest change in a person's life begins

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when they decide They're no longer willing to

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live inside the same story over and over again.

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This is one of those conversations that will

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challenge you to take a look at that right there

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exactly. Okay, so let's revisit the conversation

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with Shane Perry right now. I mean, what would

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you say to your from now, the things that you

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experienced? What would you tell that person

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now? Well, I would. And again, this is a lot

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of the system that I teach people with is, you

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know, understanding that, you know, you need

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to you need to set a goal. You need to understand

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how to set goals. So I would have told the early

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me sit down, define why you're here, set your

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goal. And you need to understand that you're

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struggling to get out of your comfort zone. OK,

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so we're going to first figure out what are the

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traits. What are your personality traits that

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are keeping you from doing what you need to do?

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Or what are the personality traits that are keeping

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you stuck in your comfort zone? And for me, as

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I mentioned, I'm a procrastinator, I have a fear

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of rejection, I care too much about what other

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people think, and I'm easily distracted. So then

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you need to create an, I would say create an

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action plan, get on a schedule. And at the end

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of the day, that you should cultivate your goals.

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Okay. So let's say it's something entrepreneurial.

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You want to drive your income to a new level

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or if it's a diet, you want to lose 20 pounds,

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whatever. When you get to that point where your

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income is where you'd like it to be, or you've

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lost the weight, what will have changed with

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you? What will have changed? Are you wearing

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different clothes? Are you buying a new car?

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What, whatever it is, I encourage, honestly,

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a vision board or a dream board. And this stuff,

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again, a lot of people look at the stuff and

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they go, well, that's kind of corn. Yeah, but

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people that think it's corny are people that

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typically... When you're in an environment that

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doesn't support you, in whatever it is that you're

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trying to manifest in your life, it can be more

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difficult. But not everybody knows how to create

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the environment or create the mindset to shift

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their mindsets. Stay focused? And stay focused,

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yes. Well, like you just said, just the awareness

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of understanding why you're feeling, that you

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are feeling these feelings right now, that maybe

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you're discouraged. Maybe you feel like you're

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on an island all by yourself and you don't have

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the support. Maybe you don't feel like you're

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getting the results that you really expected

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to be getting by now. Well, obviously, if that's

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the case, most people never achieve the life

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they dream about, not because they like talent,

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but because they're trapped by fear, by doubt,

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by the patterns they don't even know they're

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repeating. But what makes Shane Perry's story

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different is what came after success. He built

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a seven -figure business, created one of the

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most successful sales organizations in his industry,

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and helped countless others do the same. Then,

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his life changed forever. After unimaginable

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personal loss, Shane didn't shut down. He stepped

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up. On this episode of The Thrabull Journey,

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we sit down with the man who knows what it really

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takes to win. Entrepreneur. Speaker. Disruptor

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of Limitation, Shane Perry. Hey, family. This

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is the Throg Word Journey. Look, life's too short

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to just get by. And 2025 is the year to persist.

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We're here to grow, build, and thrive. This podcast

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is all about powerful stories, real talk, and

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practical steps to help you level up in every

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area of your life. Now, if that sounds like something

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so you never miss an episode. And as we always

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say, let's make thriving our new norm. Today's

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guest is a game changer in the world of success

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and achievement. With over 35 years of experience,

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he cracked the code on what holds people back

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and built a seven figure empire while helping

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countless others do the same. But after facing

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unthinkable tragedy, he turned his focus to something

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even greater, which is helping people break through

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mental barriers and achieve the life they truly

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desire. He's a speaker and entrepreneur and a

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founder and the founder of disruption of disruption,

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disruption factor, a system designed to help

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you. stop getting in your way and start winning.

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Let's get ready to, you know, shift our mindset,

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crush our goals today and disrupt the cycle of

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mediocrity. Because today we're talking to Shane

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Perry. And I know we had a little conversation,

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but Shane, how are you doing today? I'm doing

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great, Michael. Thanks a lot for having me. I

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really appreciate it. Absolutely. Like I said

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before, in the green room, as I call it. I'm

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happy to have you on, you know, did research

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about you and found out, I was like, man, this

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is an extraordinary individual and I'm glad to

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have him on. I just want to know today, with

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everything that's going on, how are you experiencing

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life today? Personally, life is great. Life is

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great. I mean, like a lot of entrepreneurs, I

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built a business and it took care of me and I'm

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living the free and financially independent life

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and really focusing on disruption factor and

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helping people and just spending time with my

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adult kids and just enjoying life. It's good.

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Yeah. Yeah. See, I like that answer. I like the

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fact you can experience that. And I asked that

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question because, you know, I talked to people

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and it's not that answer. You know, it's more

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of the, you know, kind of the what was me and

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I like to find out like how people are really

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experiencing life. Because you might be standing

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next to one person and they're experiencing life

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completely different. And I mean, you know, before

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we get to what it means to disrupt, you know,

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and what that factor is all about. You spent,

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you have an incredible year, career, like 35

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years I see here. What inspired you to become

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an entrepreneur? Well, back then, I was 21 years

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old when I was introduced to an opportunity.

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And for me, it was just pure logic based. You

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know, I knew that I did not want a boss. I hated

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having a boss already at the young age of 21.

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And to me, I just wanted freedom. It really wasn't

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about the money. It was freedom. I didn't want

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to have a boss, I wanted to do my own thing.

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And so when I got that opportunity, you know,

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I obviously I went for it. But my primary drive

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was I just wanted the freedom. It was more important

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than the money to me. Yeah, you know, that's

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when I look at the generation now, I feel like

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this is what their whole their their their thing

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is like, I don't want to boss, I want to work

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for myself. And I'm building my business for

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you know, my younger generation if they they

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choose to, you know, take it on but In the earlier

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days that you had, you had some struggles in

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the beginning. What were those struggles and

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how did you face them? The business I've got

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involved in, obviously like most businesses,

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it had to do with some sales. It had to do with

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prospecting, talking to people. Honestly, I was

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scared to death to talk to people. I had an intense

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fear of rejection. very concerned about what

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everybody thought. So I was a really slow starter

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because I just couldn't get out of my own way.

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And that's that's part of what helped create

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the system eventually that allowed me to be successful.

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And that system is now what I teach through disruption

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factor to other entrepreneurs and fitness and

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everything else. But for me, it was just a real

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fear of rejection, fear of what people were going

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to think, what people were going to say. I'm

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a natural procrastinator. And I'm easily distracted.

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So those, those four things do not combine. Well,

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if you're in a business where you're 10 99, you're

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self -employed, you need to find the motivation.

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And it entails a lot of talking to people and

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prospecting. So finally it just got to a point

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where I just like, Hey, you know, I've got to

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plant my feet and just go do it. And I just forced

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myself to go do what I needed to do. And of course,

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like most of the time you realize that. You've

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been building it up for nothing. It's not that

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hard. You know, people don't think anything.

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It's, you know, rejection's okay. And then I

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just got out of my way and just kind of took

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off with it at that point. What was that shift

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though? Like, so if, like, I'm thinking, I will,

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I was a procrastinator, but I would, I'm a creative,

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right? So things have to flow a certain way.

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Things have to, you know, be aligned a certain

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way for me to feel like I got the move. I don't

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act that way anymore, but that was, that was

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a thing for me. What was it? What was the thing

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for you? that said, you know what, you know,

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I am a procrastinator, but I'm going to move

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forward with my life anyway, with what I'm choosing.

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Simple, because I finally got to a point where

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I'm like, look, what am I going to do? Go back

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and get a job. I was delivering beer for a living.

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That's the only job I didn't go to college. And

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I have two jobs in my whole life. I worked at

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a gun range and I delivered beer. And I'm like,

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if I don't make this happen, I'm going to end

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up having to go get a job. And there's just no

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way. So I was more scared by that. Mm hmm. Scared

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at the prospect of what if I don't do this versus

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excited about the prospect of what if I do it

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and all the financial rewards that could come.

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So I just finally got to a point where I felt

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I had no choice. I've got to go get it done.

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And I did just you know, you just push through

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it. You push through. So I really wish I would

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have known then what I know now would have been

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a lot easier. Right? Yeah. So I mean, what would

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you say to your from now the things that you

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experienced? What would you tell that person

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now? Well, I would. And again, this is a lot

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of the system that I teach people with is, you

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know, understanding that, you know, you need

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it. You need to set a goal. You need to understand

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how to set goals. So I would have told the early

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me sit down, define why you're here, set your

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goal. And you need to understand that you're

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struggling to get out of your comfort zone. OK,

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so we're going to first figure out what are the

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traits. What are your personality traits that

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are keeping you from doing what you need to do?

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Or what are the personality traits that are keeping

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you stuck in your comfort zone? And for me, as

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I mentioned, I'm a procrastinator. I have a fear

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of rejection. I care too much about what other

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people think and I'm easily distracted. So then

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you need to create an, I would say, create an

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action plan, get on a schedule. And at the end

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of the day, there is no magic pill. You just,

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for my situation, you just literally have to

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go out and start doing it. You got to tackle

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it head on. And you're going to realize that

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all of the stuff that you've been built up in

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your head is not as big as you think it is. There's

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a saying that thinking sucks, but doing is awesome.

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So stop thinking and just go do it right. Cause

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even if I would have told myself, even when you

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go do it, even if you have a bad day, you get

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no yeses, you get, you get nowhere, but you did

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it. You're going to feel good about yourself

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because you did it. You know, and so a lot of

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that coaching is what I would give someone in

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my situation back then who knows what they want

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to do. But they're just wondering why they're

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not doing it. Yeah. Was there a mentality shift

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for you? And if that was a short was but what

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was when you recognize that you're you're, you

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know, you procrastinate, you're you have a fear

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of what people think about you and the others

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like when you recognize that Does that make a

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difference? Sure. You know, to be real honest

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with you, Michael, I was so young, I didn't recognize

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it. It took years later looking back to realize

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these are the things that really held me back.

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In the meantime, during the moment, I wasn't

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sitting there saying, well, my fear of rejection

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and my fear of this, I didn't, I just knew like,

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I want to go do it, but I would find myself just

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putting it off and putting it off. And then at

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the month would come and go. And then I'd agonize

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over, man, I really didn't do anything. You know,

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what if my dad is right and I should have never

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quit my job? Then we get in our heads, you know,

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but, but there was definitely a mental shift

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when I started doing it, of course, because once

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you start doing it, you realize it's not as bad

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as you, as you built it up to be. And then you

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realize, I mean, you start seeing some results,

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then of course it just kind of goes. Yeah. I

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think for me, when I, when I When I choose to

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make a move to move forward in whatever I choose

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to do, I think I'm result driven. I have to see

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a result. or otherwise I'm like moving and moving

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and moving. And then I, then it's like, you know,

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what am I moving for? What am I moving towards?

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Uh, what would you say to somebody who, who is

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moving towards something or building something,

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but they don't see the results, you know, right

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away? I would say, if I could take it back just

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a second, I would say the kind of a synopsis

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here. There's five areas of our life. There's

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relational, spiritual, recreational, financial

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or business, entrepreneurship, and physical,

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which is typically fitness and diet. So those

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are the five areas of our life. When we decide

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that we want to take, say one of those areas

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and we want to improve it, or we want to take

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it to a new level. So let's say you're an entrepreneur

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and you're starting a business or you want to

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lose some weight. What people first of all don't

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realize is that it requires you to set a goal.

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A lot of people don't set goals. They just say,

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I want to lose weight. They get started with

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something, but sitting down and, you know, writing

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down your goals, you know, 92 % of people who

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set goals in the world either don't achieve them

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or even if they do, they revert back. to where

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they were. So that can get discouraging when

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people hear it level. So you're saying I have

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an 8 % chance. No, that's not true. But if you

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understand why this happens to people, so why

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does this happen? Well, first of all, they don't

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know how to properly set goals. Secondly, they

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don't write them down. They don't cultivate their

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goals and they don't create an action plan. But

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then comes down to what you're talking about

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here. Seeing those results. People need to understand

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we've all heard of the comfort zone and that's

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really my specialty on honestly is all things

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comfort zone. But you can go on social media

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and see all the circles, comfort zone, fear zone,

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growth zone, and all that. But rarely, if ever,

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do you find someone that actually defines, like,

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this is what it is. But let's talk about how

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you built that comfort zone. Because it was built

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over years of habits and routines and a paradigm.

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And in its simplest form, your paradigm is your

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worldview at something. So let's say that you

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want to lose weight. And your paradigm is...

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Well, I've been heavy my whole life. I've tried

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diets before. Most of them don't work. Even the

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ones that did work. I ended up gaining it back,

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but I'm going to give this one a shot. So your

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parent on your worldview is already not good

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and this contributes towards your comfort zone

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and we can get into that later. But when it comes

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to goals, goals have a couple things. Every goal

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has a couple things in common and the one that

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you're talking about pretty much every goal.

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The one thing it has in common is you're usually

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never where you thought you'd be when you thought

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you'd be there. Right. Right. And so that right

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there causes people, you know, I want I joined

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a diet, I started dieting, and I cleaned out

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my refrigerator, and I started exercising, I'm

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going to bed hungry, and I'm getting caffeine

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headaches, because I'm not drinking soda. And

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I thought I wanted to lose 10 pounds in my first

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month, and I lost a pound and a half. And it's

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like, discouraging, and they revert back you

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have to put so be preparing. for that, preparing

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that you're probably not going to be where you

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thought you'd be when you thought you'd be there,

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but you also have to work it in 90 day cycles.

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I believe and I teach people that how to build

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your life in 90 day cycles, not 30 days, not

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two weeks, 90 days. Then the goal is to move

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your life or that area, whatever area you're

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specifically trying to improve, just move that

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area forward every 90 days. Understanding that

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when you first get started, The first 30 days

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is typically when all the pain comes, right?

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You're uncomfortable. You're facing your cup.

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You're out of your comfort zone. You're not seeing

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the success that you thought you would see, but

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you're putting in all the work and sacrifice

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and it could be discouraging, but you've got

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to get yourself on a 90 day cycle. By the end

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of the 90 days, you're probably not going to

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be where you thought you'd be. or you hope you'd

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be at that time. But I promise you, you will

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have moved that area forward and you will have

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seen results if you understand certain things.

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So that was a long protracted answer to your

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question. I'm sorry about that. But yeah, don't

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be sorry. It was perfect because I mean, you

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went deeper than what I originally, you know,

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right? But what was so great? There's a lot of

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things I wrote here. First of all, 90 days like

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you choose 90 days. Why? And the thing One of

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the things that I thought my mind went to right

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away was habit. Like maybe we are creating something

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new and then we bring the old habit with us.

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But since we got to bring the whole habit with

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us, we have to break that habit. And that 90

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day cycle may help reform what the habit is in

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order to get to the goal that we're trying to

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get to. Yeah, that that does have a lot to do

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with it. 90 days, you're going to create new

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habits, new routines, what was uncomfortable

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will not be as uncomfortable anymore. And usually,

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whether it's entrepreneurship, or any of the

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five areas of our life, it takes about 90 days

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to start seeing some real results. You know,

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it's at the end of 90 days, if you if you created

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the plan, you work the plan, you were diligent

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at the end of 90 days, you will be able to look

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back and say, I am not where I was 90 days ago.

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Maybe I'm not where I thought I'd be. But I'm

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definitely not where I used to be. And that's

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exciting for people. If it's anything less, if

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it's 30 days, if it's 45 days, it's typically

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not enough to allow the results aspect to kick

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in. And they think too short term. All they're

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seeing is I've been doing this for a month. Nothing's

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happening. It's just not working. I give up.

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Mm -hmm. So 90 days to do that build it and and

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it's also a good time like if you want to You

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know, you're already doing something you maybe

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you're already in business You're doing something

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and now you want to take it to a new level 90

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days is a good Okay, I'm gonna kick off a 90

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-day plan here and it's a good time You can go

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do a sprint you can put your blinders on for

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90 days and make the necessary Changes create

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those new habits and start seeing some results

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at the beginning of those 90 days would it would

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What would the? beginning look like? Do they

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write something whiteboard? Do you just say it

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in your head? Like, what is that thing that will

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help begin the paradigm shift of who they see

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themselves being in the first of that, the first

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90 day or the beginning of the 90 days to when

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they're going through the 90 days to the other

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side? Yes. Well, it starts by understanding,

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as I mentioned, that whatever it is you're trying

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to do, it requires a goal to be set. So you actually

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have to write down the goal. And as though I

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believe you should surround yourself with your

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goal, but if you just write it that the act of

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writing a goal down typically is enough to solidify

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it into you. Write it down, write down 90 day

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goals, six month goal, and like a 12 month or

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a 12 month and then a 24 month goal. Where do

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I want to be in 90 days? This is what you said

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with the whiteboard. Then I'm a real believer

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and I teach my clients that you should cultivate

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your goals. Let's say it's something entrepreneurial.

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You want to drive your income to a new level

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or if it's a diet, you want to lose 20 pounds,

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whatever. When you get to that point where your

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income is where you'd like it to be or you've

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lost the weight, What will have changed with

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you? What will have changed? Are you wearing

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different clothes? Are you buying a new car?

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Whatever it is, I encourage, honestly, a vision

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board or a dream board. Again, a lot of people

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look at the stuff and they go, well, that's kind

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of corny. Yeah, but people that think it's corny

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are people that have typically never achieved

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anything in their lives. Winners don't think

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it's corny. Winners are going to say, you need

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to write down goals and you should surround yourself

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with it. If when you're making $150 ,000 a year,

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you're going to buy this car and live in this

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house, then you you should have pictures of those

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cars and those houses on your bathroom mirror,

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in your purse, on the dashboard of your car.

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You need to cultivate it, not only to inspire

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and motivate, but to remind you what you're doing,

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because you're gonna have a lot of bad days too,

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and you're gonna kind of forget what you're here

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for. So writing down the goals, cultivating those

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goals, surrounding yourself with them is everything.

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Yes, absolutely, to help push you and remind

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you. And honestly, I'm a big believer, and I

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mentioned this a little bit in my own story,

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but I teach people the concept of negative motivation.

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And this is something, as you know, that in the

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self -improvement, you know, personal development

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space, everything is typically, you need to be

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positive. Positive's in, positive, and I agree,

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you need to be positive. But I agree in negative

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motivation. Negative motivation is like, okay,

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let's go back to the diet and fitness. You started

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your diet. A couple months go by, you've lost

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a little weight, but it's not that easy. You

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haven't lost as much as you thought, but it's

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going. And then you have those moments like we

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all do that. You think like, you know, I don't

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feel like walking today. I don't feel like going

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to the gym. It's going to be okay. Maybe, you

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know, I'm trying not to drink during the week,

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but maybe it's okay if I do today. People get

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so caught up and you need to be motivated about

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how great you're going to feel when you lose

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your weight and you're able to wear those clothes.

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But they don't remind them of, okay, imagine

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this. Imagine you stop right now. How are you

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gonna feel six months, a year, two years down

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the road when you look in the mirror and you

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have this thought for a split second and this

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thought is, where would I be right now if I just

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wouldn't have stopped? And that thought sends

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a chill down your spine. That's a horrible, and

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that's called negative motivation. Like if I

00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:01.650
don't continue this, how am I gonna feel a year

00:24:01.650 --> 00:24:04.200
down the road? When I have that one moment thinking

00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.259
where would I be right now if I just would have

00:24:06.259 --> 00:24:09.690
kept going that right there that That will keep

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:13.750
people going way more than the idea of how great

00:24:13.750 --> 00:24:15.890
my life's gonna be should I achieve it. I think

00:24:15.890 --> 00:24:17.890
Tony Robbins talks about that. He says people

00:24:17.890 --> 00:24:20.529
will fight harder at the fear of losing than

00:24:20.529 --> 00:24:23.890
they will at the idea of success. So I'm the

00:24:23.890 --> 00:24:27.369
big believer in cultivating that negative motivation

00:24:27.369 --> 00:24:29.710
in terms of I've gotta keep going because if

00:24:29.710 --> 00:24:31.869
I don't keep going, I'm gonna be really upset

00:24:31.869 --> 00:24:33.809
with myself and I'm not gonna be happy. Yeah,

00:24:33.849 --> 00:24:36.710
I think that's probably what I'm somewhat motivated

00:24:36.710 --> 00:24:40.069
by. Because I have that, you know, when I see

00:24:40.069 --> 00:24:43.789
growth in my business or growth with what I'm

00:24:43.789 --> 00:24:46.849
doing, and then there's moments where I'm like,

00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:48.849
ah, you know what I mean? I just want to kind

00:24:48.849 --> 00:24:52.950
of quit or choose something else. But since I've,

00:24:52.950 --> 00:24:56.869
you know, grown this thing to such a level, like,

00:24:57.130 --> 00:24:59.970
if I stopped, like, why would I do that? How

00:24:59.970 --> 00:25:03.130
if I keep going, you know, you never know what

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:05.730
it's gonna be like on the other side. Going since

00:25:05.730 --> 00:25:08.549
I I've grown it this much. it can still go go

00:25:08.549 --> 00:25:11.730
go further, you know, and so I think I'm motivated

00:25:11.730 --> 00:25:15.150
by like, the fact that I see something possible,

00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:18.630
you know, and not having that possibility really

00:25:18.630 --> 00:25:20.250
messes me up if I don't, if I don't, you know,

00:25:20.250 --> 00:25:22.289
keep going. Well, I think it's fair to say, Michael,

00:25:22.329 --> 00:25:24.710
that you're you're a natural probably achiever

00:25:24.710 --> 00:25:27.970
anyways. I mean, the stuff that you've done is

00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:32.069
crazy as it might be. Most people don't think

00:25:32.069 --> 00:25:34.430
that way. Most people will get excited about

00:25:34.430 --> 00:25:36.630
something. And then they wake up the next morning

00:25:36.630 --> 00:25:38.789
thinking of all the reasons why it isn't, why

00:25:38.789 --> 00:25:41.630
they shouldn't and why they can't, you know,

00:25:41.670 --> 00:25:44.109
and they've tried things before and they fail.

00:25:44.109 --> 00:25:46.329
So they got this paradigm. They're, they're not

00:25:46.329 --> 00:25:48.589
prepared to leave their comfort zone. They've

00:25:48.589 --> 00:25:50.650
heard of the comfort zone. They don't understand

00:25:50.650 --> 00:25:52.970
it. And they're definitely not prepared for what's

00:25:52.970 --> 00:25:54.569
going to hit them when they leave it. And that's

00:25:54.569 --> 00:25:57.170
a huge part of what I teach people is being prepared

00:25:57.170 --> 00:25:59.769
for that obviously. So they don't retreat. Yeah.

00:25:59.849 --> 00:26:02.150
You talk about the comfort zone. And I think

00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:07.059
I personally, um, As far as back as I can remember,

00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:10.579
I don't think I've ever been comfortable, comfortable.

00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:13.460
I've been in a comfortable, comfortable, I can't

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:17.000
even say it, comfortable zone. But then I feel

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.799
like when I'm in that zone, there's something

00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.839
else to be done, you know, or there's somewhere

00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.019
where I can grow or manifest something, you know,

00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.920
greater in my life. And when people get stuck

00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.380
in that comfort zone, is that because of habit?

00:26:32.109 --> 00:26:34.410
Or is it because of the paradigm that they created

00:26:34.410 --> 00:26:36.950
for themselves? What is what is that? Yeah, well,

00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:39.769
the comfort zone is it is your biggest enemy.

00:26:39.829 --> 00:26:42.650
It is the enemy to your success in any area of

00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:44.430
your life that you want to improve or take to

00:26:44.430 --> 00:26:46.990
a new level. Your comfort zone is the enemy of

00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:49.089
your success and people see it everywhere. As

00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:51.650
I mentioned, they know they have one. But yes,

00:26:51.670 --> 00:26:54.049
it was built over the years through habits and

00:26:54.049 --> 00:26:57.859
routines. surrounded, we all typically are hang

00:26:57.859 --> 00:27:00.200
out with people that are just like us. So that's

00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.279
part of the comfort zone. If you're if you hang

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.559
around people that are just like you, no one's

00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.640
putting any pressure on you to improve yourself

00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.059
because you all live essentially the same lives,

00:27:09.099 --> 00:27:12.960
right? So that's when you leave that it's not

00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.019
comfortable. And of course, our worldview, you

00:27:16.019 --> 00:27:18.079
know, you look at entrepreneurship, for example,

00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:22.019
we've been taught as a society that you go to

00:27:22.019 --> 00:27:24.000
school and you get a job, and you should be happy

00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.220
with that job. It doesn't matter that if you

00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:29.619
go out into your world and look around, you're

00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:31.700
gonna see that almost everybody that you know

00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:34.259
or know of that has the best lives, the most

00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:35.960
freedom, the nicest cars, the biggest homes,

00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:38.619
the best vacations, almost all of them are entrepreneurs,

00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:41.079
self -employed. So we don't connect the dots

00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.259
that if living an ideal life is to be an entrepreneur,

00:27:44.339 --> 00:27:46.279
why are we taught from the time we're kids to

00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.420
be employees, right? So that's a comfort zone.

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.519
So when you wake up one day and whether you decide

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.460
to start a business, Join a business, whatever

00:27:55.460 --> 00:27:58.119
it may be, but you you have the goal of entrepreneurship.

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.200
I want to make more money. I want to create more

00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.099
time, more freedom. I'm going to leave my job.

00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.680
You're immediately hit with a lot of obstacles,

00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.019
and that's the disruption you see. So when you

00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:11.000
talk about that's where disruption factor, the

00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.240
name of my company came from, because when people

00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.680
ask me, they say, Shane, what is the number one

00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.460
reason that when people embark on a goal and

00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:20.930
then give up? And go back to their comfort zone.

00:28:20.930 --> 00:28:22.670
In other words, where they were before they embarked

00:28:22.670 --> 00:28:25.230
on their goal. What is the reason? Absolutely

00:28:25.230 --> 00:28:28.809
100 % the biggest reason is they are not prepared

00:28:28.809 --> 00:28:32.089
for the disruption that's going to occur when

00:28:32.089 --> 00:28:35.170
they leave that comfort zone. So, you know, again,

00:28:35.369 --> 00:28:37.470
diet and fitness, right? You're out of shape.

00:28:37.829 --> 00:28:39.390
You're a little heavy. Let's say you want to

00:28:39.390 --> 00:28:42.740
lose weight so you get fired up. You clean out

00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:44.500
your refrigerator. You clean out your pantry.

00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:46.119
You're not going to drink soda. You're going

00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.380
to eat better. You're going to exercise. That

00:28:48.380 --> 00:28:50.599
exercise might just be you walk, you know, walking

00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.160
a mile a day, three days a week. Might not even,

00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.160
but it's something. Well, when you embark on

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.650
that. You're excited, but the first thing you

00:28:57.650 --> 00:29:00.490
get hit is the disruption to your life, to your

00:29:00.490 --> 00:29:03.210
routines, to your habits, right? You're going

00:29:03.210 --> 00:29:05.589
to bed hungry and that sucks. You're getting

00:29:05.589 --> 00:29:08.049
caffeine headaches and that's no fun. You're

00:29:08.049 --> 00:29:09.809
trying, you know, we're all busy already. So

00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:11.890
you're trying to carve out time to go do it.

00:29:11.890 --> 00:29:14.430
And that's not easy. And then of course, because

00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:16.630
it's fitness, you know, after the first week

00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:18.509
or after the first few days, you're so sore,

00:29:18.549 --> 00:29:21.130
you can't even brush your teeth, right? It's

00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:24.670
nothing but discomfort and it's disruption and

00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:26.480
not. Not to mention the fact, like we mentioned

00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.400
earlier, that you pushed through that 30 days,

00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.660
let's say, went by and you've done everything

00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:34.519
you're supposed to do. It's not comfortable.

00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.099
You're getting killed and you've lost one pound.

00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:39.500
You see, so they're just not prepared for this.

00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:41.740
And meanwhile, you got to remember that comfort

00:29:41.740 --> 00:29:44.480
zone where you were before you embarked on this

00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.799
is sitting there saying, Michael, come on back.

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:48.559
It's nice here. Remember you were comfortable

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.779
here. You weren't sore. Nobody was talking about

00:29:50.779 --> 00:29:53.259
you. Nobody, you know, you weren't doing uncomfortable

00:29:53.259 --> 00:29:55.619
things. If it's entrepreneurship, like with me,

00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:58.000
I was delivering beer. Next thing you know, I

00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.420
get into business where I have to call people

00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:01.460
up and try to set appointments. That was the

00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:03.079
most uncomfortable thing I've ever had to do

00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.180
in my life. It was so uncomfortable that I avoided

00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:07.970
it for the long. which is why I didn't have a

00:30:07.970 --> 00:30:09.849
whole lot of success. You know, so getting people

00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:11.769
to, so one of the exercises that I'll do for

00:30:11.769 --> 00:30:13.730
people, that I'll have people do that's in the

00:30:13.730 --> 00:30:15.170
work, because I'll say, okay, I want you to try

00:30:15.170 --> 00:30:18.269
to define areas of disruption. What do you think

00:30:18.269 --> 00:30:19.869
that disruption is gonna look like? Michael,

00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:21.650
if you've never worked out a day in your life

00:30:21.650 --> 00:30:24.890
and your goal is fitness and I'm your guy, and

00:30:24.890 --> 00:30:26.430
I say, okay, Michael, we're gonna talk about

00:30:26.430 --> 00:30:28.690
this. This is what you're gonna do. What do you

00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:31.069
think are some areas of disruption? You might

00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:32.789
say, well, I think I'm probably gonna get pretty

00:30:32.789 --> 00:30:34.670
sore, because my body's not used to this. I think

00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:39.079
I'm gonna probably, have cravings, it's gonna

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.420
be hard not to eat my favorite foods. If you

00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:45.920
can anticipate that disruption, it's gonna make

00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.380
it a lot easier to get through it and not retreat

00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.319
back to your comfort zone. Here on the Thrival

00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.980
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00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.380
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show notes. Now tap in and take your next step

00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:21.180
toward thriving. Okay, so talking to talking

00:32:21.180 --> 00:32:24.440
it out or talking about it will help motivate

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.380
out motivate someone to get outside outside of

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:30.880
that comfort zone. Because when I'm thinking

00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.220
when you said all that, I was like, I just when

00:32:35.220 --> 00:32:38.299
I find myself moving forward or outside of the

00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:41.059
comfort zone or challenging myself, I just found

00:32:41.059 --> 00:32:43.740
myself not wanting to go back to whatever it

00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:47.920
was. And sometimes, well, let's talk about diet

00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.440
and fitness or whatever. Like, you know, athlete,

00:32:51.700 --> 00:32:53.799
growing up as an athlete, you know, did well

00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.920
as an athlete, but then I'm 48 now, right? So

00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.410
it's like, Oh, well, I can kind of let this go,

00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:02.710
you know, but I'll get to a certain point where

00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:05.490
I'm like, Oh, this is not working. I know the

00:33:05.490 --> 00:33:08.369
feeling. It's sitting like somebody's grandpa.

00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:10.190
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I cannot

00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:12.509
deal with that. You know what I mean? And there's

00:33:12.509 --> 00:33:14.329
that those moments that we'll say, you know,

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:17.829
like, all right, time out, bro. It's time to

00:33:17.829 --> 00:33:20.609
I like the word to use is disrupt that behavior

00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:24.309
and that habit. And do you do you find people

00:33:24.309 --> 00:33:28.799
really you want to disrupt whatever those habits

00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:33.259
are and that that that comfort zone, but live

00:33:33.259 --> 00:33:36.559
or deal with limiting beliefs to get out of the

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.079
past and or not the past behavior and the into

00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.079
the new way of being absolutely over it, you

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.759
know, success and failure in almost every area

00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.039
comes down to a mentality. It is a mental thing.

00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.619
You know, I there's almost nothing that you can't

00:33:54.619 --> 00:33:57.160
do. The only reason you won't do it is because

00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:01.240
of the mental process. For most things, I mean,

00:34:01.339 --> 00:34:03.559
I can't I can't step on a Major League Baseball

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.759
diamond and hit a 95 mile an hour fastball. I

00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.359
mean, that's not real. This we're talking about

00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.340
improving our own lives here, not doing something

00:34:09.340 --> 00:34:12.079
like that, right? But yeah, the limiting beliefs

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.760
100 % because of the paradigm. Again, the paradigm

00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.500
and again, in its simplest form is just your

00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:23.079
worldview on something. And that you talk about

00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.159
entrepreneurship, for example, Michael, what

00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.960
what if most of us 97 % of Americans you classify

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.079
as say, middle class or just not rich, we were

00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.340
all taught certain beliefs, I call it the middle

00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:36.019
class mentality. And part of that is things like,

00:34:36.019 --> 00:34:38.389
hey, You should be happy with what you've got.

00:34:38.510 --> 00:34:40.230
At least you have a roof over your head. You

00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:41.949
know, a lot of people would love to have your

00:34:41.949 --> 00:34:45.130
job. You know, people like us don't make it right.

00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:47.130
Things like that that we've that's been drilled

00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:50.489
into us. So when we talk about taking on an entrepreneurial

00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:52.750
venture and maybe dramatically changed in my

00:34:52.750 --> 00:34:55.329
life, making a lot more money and freedom, everything

00:34:55.329 --> 00:34:57.150
that we've been taught, every way we've been

00:34:57.150 --> 00:34:59.570
brought up has had us believe like people like.

00:34:59.610 --> 00:35:02.030
us don't do that. I should be happy with what

00:35:02.030 --> 00:35:04.289
I've got and it's a and it's hard to overcome.

00:35:04.510 --> 00:35:07.610
So the way you get that mental shift to happen

00:35:07.610 --> 00:35:10.989
is you've got to put in those 90 -day cycles

00:35:10.989 --> 00:35:13.570
when you start seeing some results because you

00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:15.530
know what happens when you start seeing some

00:35:15.530 --> 00:35:17.969
results and some little successes man oh man

00:35:17.969 --> 00:35:20.210
does that fire you up that ignites you all of

00:35:20.210 --> 00:35:22.849
a sudden it's like you know First 90 days, I

00:35:22.849 --> 00:35:24.929
lost a pound and a half or two, this sucks. And

00:35:24.929 --> 00:35:26.289
all of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh, I just

00:35:26.289 --> 00:35:28.789
lost five pounds. Or your business has its first

00:35:28.789 --> 00:35:31.510
real good bump, you know, and you're like, wow,

00:35:31.530 --> 00:35:33.349
I can do this and it works. And then you're going

00:35:33.349 --> 00:35:36.090
and what you mentioned a second ago about how

00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:38.469
if you stop, you'll kind of get uncomfortable.

00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:41.449
You can't stay there. Well, a lot of that has

00:35:41.449 --> 00:35:42.929
to do with, and this is another thing that I

00:35:42.929 --> 00:35:45.369
teach people is ultimate. What is the goal when

00:35:45.369 --> 00:35:47.389
you talk about comfort zones? The goal is to

00:35:47.389 --> 00:35:49.880
ultimately build a new comfort zone. And that

00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.860
new comfort zone happens through the habits and

00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:54.980
the routines, doing what you need to do, getting

00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:57.139
a couple 90 day cycles out of your belt, seeing

00:35:57.139 --> 00:35:59.880
some results, seeing some successes. You realize

00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:02.179
you're not struggling with what you used to struggle

00:36:02.179 --> 00:36:05.980
with when you started. Then what happens is if

00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:07.719
something happens, let's say fitness, right?

00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.320
I got, I'm like you, I didn't like how I felt.

00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.019
Four years ago, I'm 57 years old. Four years

00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:15.500
ago, I got back in the gym. I'm right now in

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:17.179
probably the best physical shape of my life,

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.380
other than when I was a student athlete or something.

00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.599
But I realized about nine months into my fitness

00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.340
routine, four years ago, I was traveling, I was

00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:28.840
in Nashville, and we just having fun. And all

00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.099
of a sudden, like four or five days into the

00:36:31.099 --> 00:36:32.760
trip, I realized I'm kind of grumpy, I'm not

00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.340
really happy. I'm like, what's wrong with me?

00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:36.960
And I realized, you know what, I'm frustrated

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.480
because I haven't exercised. And then right,

00:36:39.579 --> 00:36:41.639
because I know this stuff, right then I knew

00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.099
that I won. because I realized I have created

00:36:44.099 --> 00:36:46.380
a new comfort zone that I'm only comfortable

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.519
if I'm doing the things required to stay on my

00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.920
goal. And then that gets pulled from me. Now

00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.780
I'm uncomfortable and I need to get back to it.

00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:56.800
I'm traveling right now. And I've been to the

00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.260
I've been, you know, I maintain a membership

00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:01.480
at Planet Fitness. It's not my favorite gym,

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.239
but there's one wherever you go. And I've been

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.739
able to hit one the last two mornings, you know,

00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.639
so it keeps it keeps keeps me happy, you know,

00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:12.050
so ultimately you want to You will build a new

00:37:12.050 --> 00:37:13.869
comfort zone. That is the goal, where you're

00:37:13.869 --> 00:37:16.389
only comfortable if you're doing the things required.

00:37:16.570 --> 00:37:19.510
to move that area of your life forward. These

00:37:19.510 --> 00:37:22.230
are the same things that were extraordinarily

00:37:22.230 --> 00:37:24.929
uncomfortable for you months ago when you first

00:37:24.929 --> 00:37:26.690
started. When you get to that point where you've

00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:28.730
got that new comfort zone built, it's going to

00:37:28.730 --> 00:37:30.329
be a great day because you're going to realize

00:37:30.329 --> 00:37:33.750
that it's over. It's no longer a matter of if,

00:37:33.789 --> 00:37:36.170
it's just a matter of when at this point. You

00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:39.889
shifted from one comfort zone to a new one. You're

00:37:39.889 --> 00:37:43.349
feeling great, feeling awesome. now you're at

00:37:43.349 --> 00:37:45.670
this new space and it's great for a while but

00:37:45.670 --> 00:37:48.989
then isn't there something that in within the

00:37:48.989 --> 00:37:50.550
person I'm saying you know what okay this is

00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:53.809
great now it's time to elevate to another yeah

00:37:53.809 --> 00:37:56.929
most of the time once you be once you become

00:37:56.929 --> 00:37:59.710
an achiever and you start winning at whatever

00:37:59.710 --> 00:38:01.570
that is yeah you it is most likely you're going

00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:03.329
to keep pushing yourself and that's just healthy

00:38:03.329 --> 00:38:05.349
it's just good you can always get better you

00:38:05.349 --> 00:38:08.750
know when started with losing weight now it's

00:38:08.750 --> 00:38:11.599
you know now it's riding a bike And now it's,

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.119
it's running and now it's running a mini marathon.

00:38:14.219 --> 00:38:16.119
And now I want to run my first marathon, you

00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.619
know, whether it's any area of your life, that's

00:38:18.619 --> 00:38:20.480
typically what's going to happen. And it's good

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.119
because I will tell you this, Michael, and I'm

00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.039
sure you understand this, but as a species, as

00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.320
a human species, we're not built to settle. We

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.119
are built for adventure and risk. Now, not crazy

00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:34.139
risk, you know, don't go try to play Frogger

00:38:34.139 --> 00:38:36.199
across the freeway type of a risk. But like,

00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.500
we're not built to settle. We're not built to

00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:40.960
stay in one place. We're built for the next adventure

00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.699
and to push ourselves. So when you take on the

00:38:43.699 --> 00:38:46.280
idea of I want to set a goal I want to achieve,

00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.460
well, that's when you're going to start coming

00:38:48.460 --> 00:38:52.059
alive, because everyone will tell you that when

00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:54.340
you don't want to do it, the days that you don't

00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.780
want to do it, but you do it anyways, are the

00:38:56.780 --> 00:38:59.480
days that you feel the absolute best about yourself.

00:38:59.690 --> 00:39:01.670
Because that's how we're built. We're built to

00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:07.070
push ourselves. Now in those days when you lack

00:39:07.070 --> 00:39:12.250
the self confidence or just the willingness and

00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:14.710
you're doubting yourself, how do you silence

00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:18.949
those voices? I guess y 'all you could say voices.

00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:20.829
I don't know. I don't want to make it seem crazy.

00:39:20.849 --> 00:39:24.710
But you know, the voices in our head. Sure. I

00:39:24.710 --> 00:39:27.389
teach a lot of mental winning a lot of the mental

00:39:27.389 --> 00:39:30.980
aspect of it. And one of them is you want to

00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:33.139
feel the competitiveness in you. We all have

00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:35.139
a competitor inside of us. Some are a lot more

00:39:35.139 --> 00:39:37.340
competitive than others. But even if you're not

00:39:37.340 --> 00:39:39.880
that competitive, there's a competitive bone

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.280
in you. And you need to cultivate that. One of

00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:43.800
the areas to get through what you're talking

00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.940
about is just to remind yourself of what would

00:39:46.940 --> 00:39:49.599
most people do right now. You can live your whole

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.639
life based on what would most people do. And

00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.679
you do the opposite, you're probably going to

00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.010
win. And I'm not putting people down. But most

00:39:57.010 --> 00:39:59.210
people don't take care of themselves physically.

00:39:59.550 --> 00:40:03.309
Most people don't push themselves to maybe break

00:40:03.309 --> 00:40:06.730
out of the middle income mentality and try to

00:40:06.730 --> 00:40:10.190
go maybe build a legacy by building a business

00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:11.909
or being an entrepreneur or, you know, everybody

00:40:11.909 --> 00:40:13.789
wants to make a lot of money, but very few people

00:40:13.789 --> 00:40:15.449
are willing to do anything about it. Everybody

00:40:15.449 --> 00:40:18.889
wants to be in there, be their fittest in terms

00:40:18.889 --> 00:40:20.630
of their physique, but very few anything to do.

00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:22.110
So when you have those moments where you're like,

00:40:22.150 --> 00:40:23.869
I just don't want to do it or I'm not feeling

00:40:23.869 --> 00:40:26.880
up to it. or i'm wondering or i'm actually wondering

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.139
like do i want to keep doing then you just need

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:31.260
to remind yourself what would most people do

00:40:31.260 --> 00:40:33.599
right now most people would take the easy way

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.679
out most people when most people don't feel like

00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.539
doing something they're not going to do it so

00:40:38.539 --> 00:40:40.340
therefore i'm going to do it and that's how i'm

00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:42.360
going to win And that's how I'm not going to

00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.039
be like most people. That's just one little mental

00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.559
aspect that you can use to fuel that and catch

00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.440
yourself. The key to a lot of this is just becoming

00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.260
aware of the things that you and I are talking

00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.699
about today. If people just become aware of this

00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:56.659
stuff, they will catch themselves having those

00:40:56.659 --> 00:40:58.820
moments going, oh, it's one of those days. I'm

00:40:58.820 --> 00:41:01.179
making excuses. I don't feel like it. I got to

00:41:01.179 --> 00:41:05.559
go do it. Yeah. That's simple. Very simple. But

00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.280
a lot of people miss it. Just the awareness of

00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.579
you know, either how they're feeling what they're

00:41:10.579 --> 00:41:12.980
thinking or, you know, whatever it may be. It's

00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:15.340
just the acknowledgement of the awareness, I

00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:20.099
think. And then causing the cells to make the

00:41:20.099 --> 00:41:23.980
shift or whatever it may be. Yeah, you. And also

00:41:23.980 --> 00:41:26.300
cultivating, like you talk about cultivating

00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:29.219
a positive and growth oriented, I would say environment,

00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.619
but then you said mindset, how does one begin

00:41:32.619 --> 00:41:36.869
to do that for themselves when they're in the,

00:41:36.869 --> 00:41:39.329
in the, in the midst of, you know, cultivating

00:41:39.329 --> 00:41:43.550
themselves to be in a greater space. Um, uh,

00:41:43.550 --> 00:41:45.210
let me, I'm not sure I understand. So how do

00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:47.469
they, like when they're just getting started?

00:41:47.710 --> 00:41:49.710
Either when they're getting, even if they're

00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:51.570
getting started or they're in the middle of it,

00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:53.630
like, you know, when I would just say it this

00:41:53.630 --> 00:41:55.630
way, when you're in an environment that doesn't

00:41:55.630 --> 00:41:59.539
support you, um, and whatever it is that you're

00:41:59.539 --> 00:42:02.980
trying to manifest in your life, it could be

00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:07.400
more difficult. But not everybody knows how to

00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.760
create the environment or create the mindset

00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.329
to shift their mindsets. Stay focused and stay

00:42:15.329 --> 00:42:17.510
focused. Yes. Well, like you just said, just

00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:19.530
the awareness of understanding why you're feeling

00:42:19.530 --> 00:42:21.670
that you are feeling these feelings right now

00:42:21.670 --> 00:42:23.889
that maybe you're discouraged. Maybe you'll feel

00:42:23.889 --> 00:42:25.909
like you're on an island all by yourself and

00:42:25.909 --> 00:42:27.889
you don't have the support. Maybe you don't feel

00:42:27.889 --> 00:42:30.170
like you're getting the results that you really

00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:32.929
expected to be getting by now. Well, obviously,

00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:36.230
if that's the case, then analyze what it is that

00:42:36.230 --> 00:42:39.639
you're doing. Maybe you need to alter your plan

00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.739
a little bit. If you created an action plan and

00:42:41.739 --> 00:42:43.739
you've been at it a few months and you're not

00:42:43.739 --> 00:42:45.460
getting the results at all, well then maybe you

00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:47.480
need to change up what you're doing, obviously.

00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:52.099
But in terms of staying on it, just understand

00:42:52.099 --> 00:42:55.900
that not every day is a great day. All of us

00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:58.380
have days where we just don't feel like doing

00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:02.349
it, or we just don't feel... as confident as

00:43:02.349 --> 00:43:05.150
we normally do. We all have days where we question

00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:08.630
things. Am I crazy to do this? Can I even do

00:43:08.630 --> 00:43:10.070
this? Should I just settle with where I'm at

00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:11.989
right now instead of continuing to push myself?

00:43:12.769 --> 00:43:15.570
And I would just try to rekindle that fire that

00:43:15.570 --> 00:43:17.849
got you started in the first place. Whatever

00:43:17.849 --> 00:43:21.389
this goal is, why did you want to break out of

00:43:21.389 --> 00:43:24.030
where you were? What was it? What were you running

00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:26.750
from? Not running, what were you leaving behind?

00:43:27.150 --> 00:43:28.849
Because that's another thing I teach you. What

00:43:28.849 --> 00:43:30.849
is it that you're leaving behind? In fact, like

00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:32.730
you want to lose weight. OK, forget the lose

00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:35.789
weight. I've I've beat that one enough. You're

00:43:35.789 --> 00:43:38.269
going to start a business or join a business

00:43:38.269 --> 00:43:41.010
and entrepreneurial venture. OK, we have these

00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:44.030
goals. I have a goal. I want to be my own boss

00:43:44.030 --> 00:43:46.769
and I want to triple my income and have a better

00:43:46.769 --> 00:43:48.949
life. I'd like my wife to be able to stay home

00:43:48.949 --> 00:43:51.590
and provide a legacy for my kids. OK, that that's

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:53.829
we got that. But what is it that you're leaving

00:43:53.829 --> 00:43:57.500
behind? I can't stand having a boss. I hate fighting

00:43:57.500 --> 00:43:59.699
traffic in the morning. I hate that I don't have

00:43:59.699 --> 00:44:01.300
the freedom and someone's telling me what to

00:44:01.300 --> 00:44:03.840
do. I hate that I have to ask for time off to

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.980
even go to one of my kids baseball games. And

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:08.420
I'm tired of trying to live this life the best

00:44:08.420 --> 00:44:11.199
that I can and do it within the parameters of

00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.119
what they're willing to pay me. And I can't drive

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.099
my income. That's what I'm leaving behind. Remind

00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:19.039
yourself what it is that you're leaving behind

00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.099
that's caused you to want to embark on this goal

00:44:22.099 --> 00:44:24.139
to improve that area of your life. And if you

00:44:24.139 --> 00:44:26.289
remind yourself of that, it might not make you

00:44:26.289 --> 00:44:28.250
feel any better, but it's gonna it's gonna strengthen

00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:30.449
your resolve to keep going. That's for sure.

00:44:30.449 --> 00:44:32.510
And most importantly, it's gonna keep you from

00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:34.670
falling back to that original comfort zone and

00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:36.650
just being like everybody else you wanted out

00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:39.769
of that for a reason. Yeah, there's some grit

00:44:39.769 --> 00:44:43.489
that has to happen to right? Yeah. Well, you

00:44:43.489 --> 00:44:46.449
got to dig deep somewhere at some point somewhere

00:44:46.449 --> 00:44:50.769
along the line. And just dig and get the grit.

00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:53.389
I don't know. There is that moment. Look, there's

00:44:53.389 --> 00:44:56.349
a moment in every Goal that anyone ever sets

00:44:56.349 --> 00:44:59.650
there's a moment where people give up. A lot

00:44:59.650 --> 00:45:01.110
of them don't even realize they give up. They

00:45:01.110 --> 00:45:03.730
just kind of stop and it fades away. You will

00:45:03.730 --> 00:45:05.630
encounter that moment. It's part of the growth

00:45:05.630 --> 00:45:08.389
process. You will come to that moment where most

00:45:08.389 --> 00:45:10.789
people give up and that's where the grit that

00:45:10.789 --> 00:45:12.230
you're talking about. That's where you gotta

00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:14.829
say no, no, no, no. I will not be like most people.

00:45:15.050 --> 00:45:17.530
Most people would stop right now. I will not.

00:45:17.630 --> 00:45:20.230
And that's how I'm going to go. And again, a

00:45:20.230 --> 00:45:23.030
lot of it does come down to just, like you mentioned,

00:45:23.469 --> 00:45:26.030
having the awareness and understanding. I mean,

00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:28.210
if everybody could just naturally understand

00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:31.650
that I live my life in a comfort zone. I now

00:45:31.650 --> 00:45:34.289
want to do this. I'm going to have to leave that

00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:36.250
comfort zone behind. And when I do, I'm going

00:45:36.250 --> 00:45:39.570
to face massive disruption to my life, my lifestyle,

00:45:39.750 --> 00:45:42.389
my habits and routines. This is what that description

00:45:42.389 --> 00:45:43.710
is going to probably look like. And when I hit

00:45:43.710 --> 00:45:46.920
that disruption, most people would stop. and

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.179
go back to their comfort zone. I won't and this

00:45:49.179 --> 00:45:50.900
is how I'm going to do it because the other comfort

00:45:50.900 --> 00:45:52.500
zone that I need to build is over there and I'm

00:45:52.500 --> 00:45:54.320
going to get to that. If they had this kind of

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.719
awareness going into it, it would not be only

00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.059
8 % of people in the world achieve goals. It'd

00:45:59.059 --> 00:46:01.900
be 80 right, but they don't understand this stuff.

00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.719
So that's why. They need to listen to things

00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.360
like, like your podcast and stuff, because when

00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.059
they do understand this, they're prepared for

00:46:08.059 --> 00:46:09.860
it. And then they'll walk around going, well,

00:46:09.900 --> 00:46:11.719
this is just one of those off days. I'm not worried

00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.360
about it. It's okay. Everybody else has an off

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.239
day and they throw in the towel without realizing

00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:17.860
it and just revert back to the way they used

00:46:17.860 --> 00:46:21.360
to be. You talk about that night to eight. Um,

00:46:22.099 --> 00:46:24.079
what's the key difference setting between setting

00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.340
the goals and actually achieving them? Is there

00:46:26.340 --> 00:46:29.989
like, uh, uh, A key difference between the two.

00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:32.429
Yeah, there is between the the achievers and

00:46:32.429 --> 00:46:34.849
the ones that don't achieve their goals. Yeah.

00:46:35.489 --> 00:46:37.389
One of the most I actually read about this one

00:46:37.389 --> 00:46:39.309
of the most there was a study that one of the

00:46:39.309 --> 00:46:43.110
most significant factors that separates achievers

00:46:43.110 --> 00:46:45.510
versus those that give up is what we talked about

00:46:45.510 --> 00:46:48.110
a second ago is achievers are pretty they're

00:46:48.110 --> 00:46:50.150
competitive. They don't think they're better

00:46:50.150 --> 00:46:52.599
than anybody else. But they just don't want to

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.760
be like everybody else. They want to be different.

00:46:54.940 --> 00:46:56.880
They're kind of they become contrarians. When

00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.739
the crowd is moving one way, they're naturally

00:46:58.739 --> 00:47:00.900
going to go another. And one of their biggest

00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:03.559
fears in life is they just don't want to be a

00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.280
face in the crowd and be like everybody else.

00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:07.079
And again, they don't think they're better than

00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.239
anybody else, but they just don't want to be

00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.000
like everybody else. They want, you know, I don't

00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.199
they kind of they have a different take on things.

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.059
They develop a different take on things. They

00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:20.079
kind of create a different. 30 ,000 foot view

00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.639
on life. They sit like they tell us to get it

00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.360
to get a job and be happy. But I don't see a

00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.659
lot of happy out there. And I see people working,

00:47:28.219 --> 00:47:30.280
spending most of their hours of their waking

00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.880
of their of their life working a job that most

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.559
of them don't like. And they and they think about

00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.059
money all the time. And the only people that

00:47:37.059 --> 00:47:38.500
think about money are those that don't have enough.

00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.960
And most people don't have enough of me don't

00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.360
have enough. It rules your life and you spend

00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.699
your life chasing it because you don't have enough.

00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:46.780
So these people kind of like well, that's no

00:47:46.780 --> 00:47:49.360
way to live. Why wouldn't I be an entrepreneur?

00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.900
Why wouldn't I want to go out and start a business?

00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.300
They just they they kind of fight the trends,

00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:56.300
if you will, and they're competitive. They want

00:47:56.300 --> 00:47:58.960
they know that what they're doing right now in

00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.880
any aspect, this goal they're pursuing, they

00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:03.960
know most people wouldn't do it. And they know

00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.179
that most people that give it a shot will give

00:48:06.179 --> 00:48:09.139
up and won't see it through. And that drives

00:48:09.139 --> 00:48:11.869
them. That moves them because. they're going

00:48:11.869 --> 00:48:13.769
to do it just because they don't want to be like

00:48:13.769 --> 00:48:16.170
most people. That's the number one factor that

00:48:16.170 --> 00:48:18.449
people, the achievers versus those that just

00:48:18.449 --> 00:48:20.510
go forward and then give up. I can see that.

00:48:20.510 --> 00:48:23.329
Yeah. Yeah. And obviously they develop the things

00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:24.969
we're talking, they develop the mental strength,

00:48:24.989 --> 00:48:27.510
they develop the discipline and the motivation,

00:48:27.550 --> 00:48:30.670
but the initial part that makes them embark and

00:48:30.670 --> 00:48:34.769
go is that way. And all of this, like on the

00:48:34.769 --> 00:48:37.570
other side of it, like you don't start out that

00:48:37.570 --> 00:48:40.030
person being that person. When you begin the

00:48:40.030 --> 00:48:43.539
journey, It's like a transformation that occurs.

00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:48.179
And then I'll just put myself in the mix. When

00:48:48.179 --> 00:48:52.699
I started the journey of entrepreneurship or

00:48:52.699 --> 00:48:58.920
even as an actor, I was going through with as

00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.760
a wide -eyed, oh, everything is great until you

00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:04.699
go through the lessons and you go through the

00:49:04.699 --> 00:49:06.860
trials and tribulations and the highs and the

00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:10.559
lows. And then when I stop and I look at myself,

00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.820
I'm like, man, I've grown so much. I'm a total

00:49:13.820 --> 00:49:16.440
different person. And the person I came into

00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.400
to be is much greater and stronger and, you know,

00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:24.340
whatever attributes than the person I started

00:49:24.340 --> 00:49:26.699
out started out as. So I would say, I mean, or

00:49:26.699 --> 00:49:30.239
would you say that even on a journey through

00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.360
achieving more, like just do it anyway, because

00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.710
you because there's growth there as a human being

00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:37.829
100 % you you will evolve as a person you're

00:49:37.829 --> 00:49:39.489
going to you're going to become a better you

00:49:39.489 --> 00:49:42.230
that's a fact you're going to experience things

00:49:42.230 --> 00:49:44.409
that you haven't experienced before you're going

00:49:44.409 --> 00:49:46.690
to suffer setbacks that you need to suffer through

00:49:46.690 --> 00:49:48.530
you're going to have a lot of wins and accomplishments

00:49:48.530 --> 00:49:50.829
and especially as you're on track to achieving

00:49:50.829 --> 00:49:52.550
whatever goal that is you're going to feel good

00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:54.250
about yourself but yeah you're going to develop

00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:57.179
a wisdom and you're not going to be the same

00:49:57.179 --> 00:50:00.400
person. When you achieve whatever this goal is

00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.559
or you're on track to achieving it, there's going

00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.940
to be a confidence that's going to develop about

00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:08.059
you. You're going to feel better about yourself.

00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:09.460
You're going to walk a little taller. You're

00:50:09.460 --> 00:50:11.539
going to stick your chest out a little bit more.

00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:13.880
You're going to feel good, your self -esteem.

00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.519
your confidence, and of course, just your overall

00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:19.519
understanding of what it is that we're doing

00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:23.019
it. embarking on any type of a goal and sticking

00:50:23.019 --> 00:50:25.840
to it and achieving it is one of the best adventures

00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.099
that a human can do. Yeah, they really are. Because

00:50:29.099 --> 00:50:30.920
you're gonna grow. Because you're gonna grow.

00:50:31.099 --> 00:50:34.199
I mean, if you go back and look at episode one.

00:50:34.739 --> 00:50:37.840
Sure, of this podcast is like, you know, I would

00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.579
probably cringe at why do cringe when I do see

00:50:39.579 --> 00:50:42.610
it. But it's like, Oh, God, you know, but I'm

00:50:42.610 --> 00:50:44.610
able to have this kind of conversation with you

00:50:44.610 --> 00:50:46.829
because I'm more able to be present. You know,

00:50:46.829 --> 00:50:49.130
I have questions here, you know, available. I'm

00:50:49.130 --> 00:50:52.389
able to be present and to have a conversation

00:50:52.389 --> 00:50:56.210
that will translate to the people who are watching

00:50:56.210 --> 00:50:59.070
and listening so that they can get value out

00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:03.010
of what we're doing here. And today I sit a bit

00:51:03.010 --> 00:51:07.070
stronger, a bit taller, a bit, you know, from

00:51:07.070 --> 00:51:09.809
what I've experienced, you know, through this

00:51:09.809 --> 00:51:13.239
journey. And so, you know, it's very appreciative

00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:19.539
that I put myself in it. Absolutely. Yeah. We

00:51:19.539 --> 00:51:25.760
talked about entrepreneurs. What is aspiring

00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.260
entrepreneurs and setting goals? Like, what sets

00:51:30.260 --> 00:51:33.940
them to, like, get results or lead sets their...

00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:35.960
Let me say it this way. How do they set their

00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.619
goals that would actually lead them to results?

00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:43.119
Well, set your goals. You know your business,

00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.039
whatever it is that you're trying to go achieve

00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.940
here. So you need to set goals. If it's a business,

00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.480
you probably need to set monthly goals. You know,

00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.219
maybe even all the way down to a weekly goal

00:51:53.219 --> 00:51:54.539
of what you what you're going to accomplish.

00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.900
But you have to back those goals up with an action

00:51:56.900 --> 00:51:59.159
plan, a doable action plan. And if you're in

00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.179
a business where you have mentorship of some

00:52:02.179 --> 00:52:04.019
way, shape or form, then you really need to tap

00:52:04.019 --> 00:52:07.039
into that. Right. You want to, you know, in my

00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.539
business that I built over the years, I used

00:52:08.539 --> 00:52:10.800
to always get up and tell my folks that I was

00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:12.360
mentoring and training. I would say, look, you

00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:13.719
know, I had no one teaching me. I had to learn

00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:17.260
everything the hard way. And I look at my existence

00:52:17.260 --> 00:52:21.039
as I had across a minefield. And I did and I

00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.039
made it and I was successful and I did cross

00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.079
the minefield and I got blown up a lot along

00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:28.340
the way. But on the way to succeeding, I cleared

00:52:28.340 --> 00:52:31.019
a path. So if you can just be coachable and let

00:52:31.019 --> 00:52:33.219
me help you and you follow that path, you can

00:52:33.219 --> 00:52:35.760
get where I got in half the time. So if you have

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.119
mentorship, be coachable. Being coachable is

00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.800
one of the best attributes you can do. Again,

00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:43.460
if you're an entrepreneur and you're doing it

00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:44.840
and you have someone that can help you, then

00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.380
be coachable and create that action plan and

00:52:47.380 --> 00:52:51.800
get their help to do it. 100%, you have to check

00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.739
your ego at the door and your pride because you

00:52:54.739 --> 00:52:58.920
have to be able to be working your plan. Working

00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.619
towards your goal and you have to be able at

00:53:01.619 --> 00:53:04.059
times to stop what you're doing turn around take

00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:06.900
a real analytical view of what you're doing and

00:53:06.900 --> 00:53:09.320
ask yourself a question is it working and if

00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.820
it's not don't be afraid to admit it. Now look

00:53:12.820 --> 00:53:14.800
for areas that you can change you know a lot

00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.230
of people don't like a lazy lazy. person's answer

00:53:19.230 --> 00:53:20.889
to everything entrepreneurial is I just need

00:53:20.889 --> 00:53:22.429
to do more of what I'm doing. Well, that might

00:53:22.429 --> 00:53:24.730
not be the case. Maybe what you're doing is not

00:53:24.730 --> 00:53:26.510
the most efficient thing or not the best thing.

00:53:27.110 --> 00:53:29.949
So be look, create an action plan. If you have

00:53:29.949 --> 00:53:32.289
a mentor, tap into them and their experience

00:53:32.289 --> 00:53:35.690
and be willing to make necessary changes along

00:53:35.690 --> 00:53:38.550
the way to stay on track and keep achieving your

00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:41.590
goal. Yeah, we had an episode talking about mentorship

00:53:41.590 --> 00:53:44.389
and how important that is. analytics is important

00:53:44.389 --> 00:53:48.139
too. And I'm a I'm more of a creative. when I

00:53:48.139 --> 00:53:51.059
had to learn how to look at the analytics. And

00:53:51.059 --> 00:53:55.119
as I look at analytics in every aspect of my

00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:56.659
business, the podcast, all that kind of stuff,

00:53:56.820 --> 00:53:59.199
it gets very interesting because there's some

00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.920
artistry to it, to me. And I think that's, I

00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.619
don't know, I like it. But I think it's, like

00:54:05.619 --> 00:54:09.000
you said, it's really important to really measure,

00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.639
you know, the success or the intention of whatever

00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:18.519
goals to be set. Yeah. Um, I want to talk about,

00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:22.599
um, disruption factor, but, uh, there's a couple

00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.119
of things I want to know. You're, you're, you're,

00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:28.000
you're doing great in your life and your business

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:32.519
and everything like that. Um, why you're pretty

00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.320
much retired, right? Like you, you, you call

00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.760
yourself retired. Why, why are you, why are you

00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.019
doing this? Well, I'm doing this because. Well,

00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.110
two reasons. First and foremost. I've seen what

00:54:46.110 --> 00:54:48.010
this can do with this program and the system

00:54:48.010 --> 00:54:50.010
can do for people. I've helped people achieve

00:54:50.010 --> 00:54:52.369
goals that I, it's really prevalent in the fitness

00:54:52.369 --> 00:54:54.090
community. Like I have an online course as a

00:54:54.090 --> 00:54:56.630
primary factor that I have. I have an online

00:54:56.630 --> 00:54:59.630
course and I have a lot of trainers across the

00:54:59.630 --> 00:55:01.789
country that are affiliates that encourage their

00:55:01.789 --> 00:55:04.010
people because it helps them. You really, really

00:55:04.010 --> 00:55:06.449
big and it's mainly big in fitness and it mainly

00:55:06.449 --> 00:55:10.230
helps people in entrepreneurship. I love helping

00:55:10.230 --> 00:55:13.429
people. I really genuinely do. And this is how

00:55:13.429 --> 00:55:16.449
I built my business. Five, six years when I started

00:55:16.449 --> 00:55:18.829
achieving some success in my business early on,

00:55:19.250 --> 00:55:21.030
I just couldn't understand why people just would

00:55:21.030 --> 00:55:23.980
not get out of their own way. To go achieve and

00:55:23.980 --> 00:55:25.420
I just couldn't stand and we're talking like

00:55:25.420 --> 00:55:27.820
back back before the internet man. This is probably

00:55:27.820 --> 00:55:32.360
like 1999 2000 right around there even earlier

00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.760
that I was I was buying college psychology textbooks.

00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.920
I just did a deep dive. I wanted to understand

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:39.860
what makes people tick what makes them think

00:55:39.860 --> 00:55:42.420
and I didn't I got good at it and over the years

00:55:42.420 --> 00:55:44.900
when I would do say a training class half of

00:55:44.900 --> 00:55:47.059
it would be on the products and prospecting but

00:55:47.059 --> 00:55:48.719
the other half would be on the stuff we're talking

00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.840
about today. trying to get people to make a mental

00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.880
shift to get out of their own way. And I ended

00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.599
up building a very successful company and created

00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.320
a lot of financially independent people. And

00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.960
so when I, my first level of retirement, if you

00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:05.420
will, was back in 2012 when I shut down my personal

00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:07.739
office and just helped all the folks that I had

00:56:07.739 --> 00:56:10.000
that had their own offices. And I really wasn't

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.610
doing as much. I started teaching this to some

00:56:13.610 --> 00:56:16.190
friends that had real estate sales teams and

00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:18.190
other teams like that. And I kind of dabbled

00:56:18.190 --> 00:56:19.929
with it. It wasn't an official business yet,

00:56:19.929 --> 00:56:22.190
but they knew what I did and they heard about

00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:25.510
it. And then three years ago, this last December,

00:56:26.530 --> 00:56:29.369
um, I, my 21, my 19 year old daughter passed

00:56:29.369 --> 00:56:32.210
away. She had a seizure disorder when she was

00:56:32.210 --> 00:56:34.369
11, she started having seizures and we thought

00:56:34.369 --> 00:56:36.469
we had it under control. She had brain surgery,

00:56:36.789 --> 00:56:39.869
was doing great. And then came home. December

00:56:39.869 --> 00:56:42.869
4th of 2021 and she had had the big one and we

00:56:42.869 --> 00:56:45.510
lost her and obviously when that happens it's

00:56:45.510 --> 00:56:49.289
it's a massive shift in your life and one of

00:56:49.289 --> 00:56:52.949
the things that came out of that shift. Was I

00:56:52.949 --> 00:56:55.389
me realizing how much I love working with people

00:56:55.389 --> 00:56:58.329
and how much I love helping people win and achieve

00:56:58.329 --> 00:57:00.769
And that's when I decided a few months after

00:57:00.769 --> 00:57:03.449
that to officially create disruption factor turn

00:57:03.449 --> 00:57:06.510
this into a business Create the course become

00:57:06.510 --> 00:57:08.590
a speaker and help and that's really so those

00:57:08.590 --> 00:57:11.250
are the two driving forces That caused me to

00:57:11.250 --> 00:57:13.349
do to really do this and I love it It's a lot

00:57:13.349 --> 00:57:15.750
of fun and I love making an impact for people.

00:57:15.750 --> 00:57:22.519
Yeah, I'm listening to you and The energy And

00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.920
I will call it energy force, because there's

00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.400
no force there. But it's the energy force that

00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.960
you speak with and that you share with. From

00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:30.400
what I'm experiencing, even though it's through

00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.380
camera, there's heart to what you're sharing

00:57:33.380 --> 00:57:35.460
with. And so I definitely appreciate you for

00:57:35.460 --> 00:57:39.659
that. Can you share a story of someone that went

00:57:39.659 --> 00:57:42.880
through disruption factor or experienced disruption

00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.989
factor and, you know, they have a Amazing story

00:57:45.989 --> 00:57:47.989
to tell or that you can tell for them. Yeah one

00:57:47.989 --> 00:57:50.429
one of my affiliates actually her name is Jennifer

00:57:50.429 --> 00:57:53.570
and she's a personal trainer and She's a good

00:57:53.570 --> 00:57:55.469
friend of mine and she was my first affiliate

00:57:55.469 --> 00:57:58.289
if you will, you know when the when I created

00:57:58.289 --> 00:58:00.760
the course And the workbook and everything that

00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.019
came out of it, you know, like most personal

00:58:03.019 --> 00:58:06.039
trainers, they have two problems. The first problem

00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.639
is finding clients. And the second problem is

00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:09.559
getting them to keep their clients because their

00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:11.480
clients are put in showing up, put in all this

00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.179
work and killing themselves. And of course, they're

00:58:13.179 --> 00:58:14.699
not seeing the results that they thought they'd

00:58:14.699 --> 00:58:16.199
see when they thought they'd see them and they

00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.420
start to fade away. So Jen took this and started

00:58:19.420 --> 00:58:23.260
encouraging her folks to, you know, get the course

00:58:23.260 --> 00:58:25.239
and she would kind of go through it with them

00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:28.440
almost ask them about it. And there she's got

00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.699
to. quite a few clients but there was one lady

00:58:30.699 --> 00:58:34.880
and she was in her 60s and her name her name

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.619
was Donna is Donna and you know she she was not

00:58:38.619 --> 00:58:40.579
in good shape she was she was in her 60s she

00:58:40.579 --> 00:58:44.119
was heavy and she was about to give up and Jen

00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:47.400
got her to do the course and she did and it just

00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:49.219
it just had a profound effect she kept going

00:58:49.219 --> 00:58:51.420
she just kind of you know she mitigated everything

00:58:51.420 --> 00:58:54.199
she realized why she understood the awareness

00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:55.559
that we talked about. She understood why she

00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:57.320
was feeling the way she was feeling. She understood

00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.219
that it's not that big of a deal that everyone

00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:01.039
goes through this where you're not where you

00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:02.219
thought you'd be when you thought you'd be there

00:59:02.219 --> 00:59:05.199
and recognize that all of this that she's experiencing

00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.940
is disruption to her life that she wasn't prepared

00:59:07.940 --> 00:59:11.579
for. So now she's embracing the disruption. And

00:59:11.579 --> 00:59:13.760
I mean, now she's gone on. She's still a client

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.880
of Jen's. It's been, I think, two and a half

00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.199
years. It's been two years and she's I think

00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.260
she's down like 50 pounds and she's the best

00:59:21.260 --> 00:59:23.719
shape of her life and there's a lot of those

00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.360
clients like that. I have a lot of business clients

00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.679
too. I have a lot of people that are in different

00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.000
types of businesses. Most of it requires them

00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.599
to be, you know, either their own boss or their

00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:37.079
1099. And they it requires motivation. You know,

00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.199
when you're 1090, like a real estate agent, for

00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.380
example, there's no set hours, you've got to

00:59:41.380 --> 00:59:43.400
get up and go do it and having people struggling

00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.019
with that. So I've got quite a few clients that

00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:48.780
are in that realm as well, real estate, financial

00:59:48.780 --> 00:59:52.219
product sales, any type of sales actually, where

00:59:52.219 --> 00:59:55.980
they just use this to get out there and essentially

00:59:55.980 --> 00:59:59.460
get out of their own way and stay at it. I like

00:59:59.460 --> 01:00:03.260
that. What can someone that came up to you like,

01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.929
you know, I'm ready to disrupt my life. Do they

01:00:08.929 --> 01:00:12.030
experience like a setback when they actually

01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:14.750
begin to disrupt their life? Is it like, do they

01:00:14.750 --> 01:00:18.530
hold on to kind of the past or the things that

01:00:18.530 --> 01:00:21.909
are being disrupted? Yeah. Well, you got to remember

01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:24.230
that it's called a comfort zone for a reason.

01:00:24.349 --> 01:00:27.369
It's comfortable. You know, there's no pressure.

01:00:27.590 --> 01:00:29.809
There's no spotlight. There's no expectation.

01:00:30.449 --> 01:00:34.389
And when you embark on this new goal, all of

01:00:34.389 --> 01:00:36.010
a sudden, you know, you're doing things that

01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:37.909
are uncomfortable. You're doing things maybe

01:00:37.909 --> 01:00:40.190
you've never done before. You're out of that

01:00:40.190 --> 01:00:42.429
comfort zone. And humans don't like to be uncomfortable.

01:00:42.730 --> 01:00:45.230
And so you will see a lot of them, a lot of them,

01:00:45.289 --> 01:00:47.690
what they struggle to give up, but they still

01:00:47.690 --> 01:00:50.449
hold on to it until the very end is a lot of

01:00:50.449 --> 01:00:52.860
it is their routine. They don't like their routine

01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:55.719
change. I mean, they'll stop eating cake at nine

01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:57.380
o 'clock at night. They'll stop eating ice cream

01:00:57.380 --> 01:01:00.199
every night, but they don't like giving up their

01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.940
routine. It's a lot harder to get them to turn

01:01:03.940 --> 01:01:08.320
off the TV and go to a gym or get on their exercise

01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.599
bike or just walk around the block a couple of

01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:13.800
times. They typically tend to hold on to their

01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.900
routine. And I would say one of the biggest things

01:01:16.900 --> 01:01:21.420
that really gets them. is their immediate circle

01:01:21.420 --> 01:01:23.079
of friends, the people they hang out with, because

01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:24.800
we mentioned earlier that we all kind of tend

01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.780
to hang out with people that are just like us.

01:01:27.059 --> 01:01:29.539
And so when one of that, when someone in that

01:01:29.539 --> 01:01:32.219
group shows up one day and decides they're not

01:01:32.219 --> 01:01:34.480
gonna be like us anymore, they're gonna go do

01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.659
this, they're gonna do this, they're gonna...

01:01:37.029 --> 01:01:39.530
embark on this entrepreneurial journey or whatever

01:01:39.530 --> 01:01:41.630
it is that they want to do, you would think their

01:01:41.630 --> 01:01:43.650
friends are going to support them, but they don't.

01:01:43.809 --> 01:01:45.449
They don't. It's the exact opposite. They go,

01:01:45.550 --> 01:01:46.750
Michael, what do you, what do you think you're

01:01:46.750 --> 01:01:48.369
better than us? What do you, what are you talking

01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:49.789
about? What are you talking about, man? You're

01:01:49.789 --> 01:01:51.750
going to go start a business or you're going

01:01:51.750 --> 01:01:53.750
to go, you know, what, what do you, the reason

01:01:53.750 --> 01:01:56.409
they react like that is because it's in a flicker

01:01:56.409 --> 01:01:58.429
of an instant. There's a subconscious thought

01:01:58.429 --> 01:02:01.549
that goes through their brain and it's if If

01:02:01.549 --> 01:02:03.909
Michael achieves what he's talking about and

01:02:03.909 --> 01:02:06.090
succeeds and is successful, how am I going to

01:02:06.090 --> 01:02:08.610
feel about myself knowing that he changed his

01:02:08.610 --> 01:02:11.050
life and I didn't? I don't like that. So I've

01:02:11.050 --> 01:02:13.409
got to do everything I can to keep Michael from

01:02:13.409 --> 01:02:15.230
doing that. So I'm going to discourage him. I

01:02:15.230 --> 01:02:17.530
mean, they're not Dr. Evil running their hands

01:02:17.530 --> 01:02:19.329
together thinking about this, but on a subconscious

01:02:19.329 --> 01:02:21.329
basis is what they do. So when you say, hey,

01:02:21.409 --> 01:02:23.469
man, I'm, you know, I drive a forklift for a

01:02:23.469 --> 01:02:25.210
living and hey, I just found an opportunity.

01:02:25.210 --> 01:02:26.730
I think I'm going to give it a shot because I

01:02:26.730 --> 01:02:28.110
think this thing can really work. And I'd love

01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:30.309
to quit my job and make more money. and you think

01:02:30.309 --> 01:02:32.050
your friends are gonna say, man, that is awesome.

01:02:32.150 --> 01:02:33.969
Whatever I can do, let me know. No, they're gonna

01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:36.610
be like, oh, that's probably a scam and oh, you're

01:02:36.610 --> 01:02:40.949
crazy. That stuff doesn't work. They don't need

01:02:40.949 --> 01:02:42.789
to let their friends go, but they do need to

01:02:42.789 --> 01:02:45.250
make a bit of a separation at that point because

01:02:45.250 --> 01:02:47.429
they're gonna become an anchor. So between the

01:02:47.429 --> 01:02:50.889
routine and the friend group, those are the two

01:02:50.889 --> 01:02:52.469
of the hardest things for them to let go. And

01:02:52.469 --> 01:02:54.369
again, I'm not saying don't be friends with them.

01:02:54.489 --> 01:02:56.190
I'm just saying that you're going to eventually

01:02:56.190 --> 01:02:58.730
you're taking a different path now. And if they're

01:02:58.730 --> 01:03:00.429
not supporting you, they're going to be an anchor.

01:03:00.690 --> 01:03:03.050
And there has to be a little bit of a space between

01:03:03.050 --> 01:03:04.829
you and them. And that's really, really tough

01:03:04.829 --> 01:03:07.849
to do. Yeah. If you, I would say if you, if they're

01:03:07.849 --> 01:03:12.849
sensing some hateration, you know, there's some

01:03:12.849 --> 01:03:15.329
things that, you know, one would have to, you

01:03:15.329 --> 01:03:19.489
know, get, tend to look at need to look at, and

01:03:19.489 --> 01:03:21.170
maybe create, like you said, that separation.

01:03:21.849 --> 01:03:25.050
Um, one last question. before I ask you one last

01:03:25.050 --> 01:03:29.210
question. I wanted to know about this, about

01:03:29.210 --> 01:03:33.389
emotional resilience in a relationship. Can people,

01:03:34.110 --> 01:03:36.590
what do you say about emotional resilience? And

01:03:36.590 --> 01:03:39.329
if you believe in it, can people strengthen that

01:03:39.329 --> 01:03:41.829
within themselves? Define emotional resilience,

01:03:41.869 --> 01:03:46.909
how you define it. Emotional resilience is what

01:03:46.909 --> 01:03:50.710
I would relate that to is like an emotional intelligence,

01:03:50.989 --> 01:03:57.960
being able to Again, be aware of what you're

01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:00.460
experiencing within your emotions. If you're

01:04:00.460 --> 01:04:04.559
going through something difficult, or if you

01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.059
want to lash out at someone, there's an intelligence

01:04:07.059 --> 01:04:13.860
there that has grown within and you don't react

01:04:13.860 --> 01:04:18.559
or be a certain way that you would have possibly

01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:23.260
done in the past. You'll definitely become very

01:04:23.260 --> 01:04:26.900
much more emotionally resilient as you grow.

01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:29.179
You know, I think as you embark on your journey,

01:04:29.420 --> 01:04:31.619
whatever goal it is, part of you needs to take

01:04:31.619 --> 01:04:33.199
a little bit of the emotion out of it because

01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.679
a lot of the reason so many people give up or

01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.039
quit or don't try at all is because they live

01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.019
their life a little too much off emotions and

01:04:41.019 --> 01:04:44.920
feelings and not enough off of logic. Okay, so

01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:48.500
logic would be I don't like it's a feeling but

01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:51.039
logic would be I get winded walking up a flight

01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.519
of stairs I do not like the clothes that I wear

01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.019
they're uncomfortable. I don't like being out

01:04:56.019 --> 01:04:58.420
of shape Logically, it would make more sense

01:04:58.420 --> 01:05:00.420
if I would do something and alter my life and

01:05:00.420 --> 01:05:03.000
lose weight Logically, it doesn't make sense

01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.480
that I'm working a job that I don't like I'm

01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.300
not happy with the money. I'm not happy with

01:05:07.300 --> 01:05:09.619
almost anything about it I've got an opportunity

01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:13.239
to go work with something or start something

01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.219
and make more money. If I'm going to, if I'm

01:05:16.219 --> 01:05:18.619
42 years old and I'm going to work till I'm 65,

01:05:18.739 --> 01:05:22.179
that's 23 more years. Logically, it would make

01:05:22.179 --> 01:05:25.099
sense to give this a shot because if I can make,

01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:27.699
if in the next three to four years, I can make

01:05:27.699 --> 01:05:29.820
enough to quit that job and double my income,

01:05:29.940 --> 01:05:32.639
logically that that makes sense. So it needs

01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:34.519
to start kind of logic based and you need to

01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:37.260
get the motions out of it. As you get going,

01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:40.079
the wisdom, the awareness you are going to create,

01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:42.519
you are going to Become a different you better

01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:44.920
you more refined you and part of that is gonna

01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.239
be having an emotional resilience where you're

01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:49.159
not gonna let things bother you like they used

01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.039
to you're not going to react the way that you

01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.159
used to and you're just gonna and a lot of that

01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.719
comes from the confidence. And self esteem that's

01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.059
been built by you on your journey of achievement.

01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.480
Because you can't help but become a better you.

01:06:03.699 --> 01:06:05.360
You're going to be more confident. You're going

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:07.639
to be yourself and steam is going to grow. You're

01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:09.639
not going to take everything so personal because

01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:10.940
you're just going to understand things. I mean,

01:06:10.940 --> 01:06:13.099
it's kind of a deep level here, but that's exactly

01:06:13.099 --> 01:06:15.590
what happens when you become an achiever. And

01:06:15.590 --> 01:06:18.269
then you realize that I'm doing things that very

01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:20.469
few people are willing to do. Not that they can't

01:06:20.469 --> 01:06:23.750
do it. They just won't. And I'm not better than

01:06:23.750 --> 01:06:26.250
them at all. But I'm doing things that most people

01:06:26.250 --> 01:06:27.989
won't do. That makes me feel good. And I don't

01:06:27.989 --> 01:06:29.590
need to respond like that. So that emotional

01:06:29.590 --> 01:06:32.269
resilience will naturally grow. But again, having

01:06:32.269 --> 01:06:34.530
an awareness of it is going to make it grow even

01:06:34.530 --> 01:06:36.889
faster. You've already said it. Yeah. I love

01:06:36.889 --> 01:06:44.349
that. Disruption. The disruption factor. First

01:06:44.349 --> 01:06:47.989
of all, I love the name. Um, and I went to your

01:06:47.989 --> 01:06:50.030
website and there was a saying that you had on

01:06:50.030 --> 01:06:56.010
here. I can't find it right now. Um, but, uh,

01:06:56.289 --> 01:06:58.010
you talk about, okay, well, you talk about transforming

01:06:58.010 --> 01:07:00.889
into successful finisher and embrace a life defined

01:07:00.889 --> 01:07:04.489
by results, not regrets. Can you just expound

01:07:04.489 --> 01:07:07.250
on that and talk a little bit about, um, disruption

01:07:07.250 --> 01:07:09.329
factor just a little bit in terms of that, that

01:07:09.329 --> 01:07:12.400
sentence right there, that statement. Yeah, and

01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.059
I mean, we've probably all seen some type of

01:07:15.059 --> 01:07:16.900
a statement like that on social media, where,

01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:19.300
you know, you're, there's, you're going to suffer

01:07:19.300 --> 01:07:20.639
the pain of something, you're either going to

01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.079
suffer the pain of, of discipline, or you're

01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.039
going to suffer the pain of regret. Right. Um,

01:07:26.260 --> 01:07:28.039
but yeah, you know, we live in a world where

01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:29.980
there's where everyone is a great starter, but

01:07:29.980 --> 01:07:32.820
there's very few finishers out there. And you

01:07:32.820 --> 01:07:34.880
want to learn to become a finisher and finish

01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:36.579
what you started. In this case, we're talking

01:07:36.579 --> 01:07:39.380
about setting goals and achieving them. Um, a

01:07:39.380 --> 01:07:42.019
lot of people every day around the world, people

01:07:42.019 --> 01:07:44.320
get excited and embark on a goal and they're

01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:45.980
going to set the world on fire. And you come

01:07:45.980 --> 01:07:47.460
and revisit them a few months later, they're

01:07:47.460 --> 01:07:49.760
probably not even after it anymore. You know,

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.139
lots of, lots of starters, very few finishers.

01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.559
And so you want to learn how to be a finisher.

01:07:55.380 --> 01:07:58.340
And you wanna build a life of results. Like you

01:07:58.340 --> 01:08:00.619
mentioned earlier, your results are results -driven.

01:08:00.739 --> 01:08:03.519
Man, I'm the same way, I'm results -driven. And

01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:05.599
when you get, you're gonna see these results

01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:07.500
and you're gonna live a life and you just don't

01:08:07.500 --> 01:08:09.239
wanna suffer those regrets of, you know, I wish

01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:11.420
I would've stuck to it, I wish I would've kept

01:08:11.420 --> 01:08:13.920
going. Because most people, God bless them, but.

01:08:14.449 --> 01:08:17.270
Most people do live a life of regrets, you know

01:08:17.270 --> 01:08:19.869
almost everybody knows that feeling that I talked

01:08:19.869 --> 01:08:22.470
about earlier You probably do too. I know I do

01:08:22.470 --> 01:08:25.270
where you've started something You let it go

01:08:25.270 --> 01:08:27.649
time goes by and you think where would I be right

01:08:27.649 --> 01:08:29.989
now if I just wouldn't stop right? We've all

01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:32.850
kind of probably felt that at some point so live

01:08:32.850 --> 01:08:37.310
becoming a result driven person who becomes a

01:08:37.310 --> 01:08:40.329
great finisher not just a great starter versus

01:08:40.329 --> 01:08:42.819
someone who doesn't do those and then they end

01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:44.399
up looking back with regret. You just don't want

01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:48.600
that. Yeah. Yeah. There was a guy named Myles

01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:52.779
Monroe. He had talked about I think was purpose

01:08:52.779 --> 01:08:55.659
or something like but he said the most the area

01:08:55.659 --> 01:08:58.600
where most purpose is I'm saying they're all

01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.479
wrong, but it was something about people that

01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.859
basically don't fulfill on what it is that they

01:09:03.859 --> 01:09:06.640
want to fulfill on the purpose or whatever it

01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:08.260
is that he had said I'm pretty sure it's purpose

01:09:08.260 --> 01:09:11.329
but all that it's a little morbid, but it's in

01:09:11.329 --> 01:09:16.170
the cemetery. Cemetery is full of purpose. And

01:09:16.170 --> 01:09:19.590
it's people that die without living that. And

01:09:19.590 --> 01:09:21.850
that's what when I read that, that's what made

01:09:21.850 --> 01:09:25.189
me think about, you know, people who end up with

01:09:25.189 --> 01:09:28.470
regret that they don't finish with their purpose.

01:09:28.789 --> 01:09:34.470
Yeah. And so your disruption factor really, for

01:09:34.470 --> 01:09:38.529
me, it spoke to that. Thank you. Yeah. How can

01:09:38.529 --> 01:09:40.949
people get in touch with you? Well, the easiest

01:09:40.949 --> 01:09:43.710
way honestly is just to go to my website, probably

01:09:43.710 --> 01:09:47.329
disruption -factor .com. There's a dash in there.

01:09:47.590 --> 01:09:50.130
Disruption -factor .com. You can contact me.

01:09:50.149 --> 01:09:53.569
My social media is on there. I do a weekly podcast

01:09:53.569 --> 01:09:56.670
that right now is just 15 minutes or less. It

01:09:56.670 --> 01:09:58.449
started off with something just for my clients

01:09:58.449 --> 01:10:00.029
and then I was encouraged to make it public.

01:10:00.550 --> 01:10:03.170
So that podcast is called Act, Achieve, Live.

01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:06.880
And my social media is you know, Instagram at

01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.739
real Shane Perry or at disruption factor. And

01:10:09.739 --> 01:10:12.279
yeah, I'd love to hear from people. Yes, absolutely.

01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.079
As we leave out of here, you're gonna have the

01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:21.560
last word. And you know, what story or something

01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.600
last words that you would love to leave on this

01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.699
podcast for people, I would tell people look,

01:10:27.899 --> 01:10:30.859
there's, there's probably something in you, there's

01:10:30.859 --> 01:10:33.720
an area of your life that you want to move. You

01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.020
probably have something, you know, it's it's

01:10:36.020 --> 01:10:37.979
it's April. New Year's was recently. Did you

01:10:37.979 --> 01:10:39.979
have a New Year's resolution? Did it already

01:10:39.979 --> 01:10:42.460
come and go? There's an area of your life that

01:10:42.460 --> 01:10:44.359
you probably want to achieve and you want to

01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:46.260
move. There's never going to be a perfect time

01:10:46.260 --> 01:10:48.380
to do it. You just got to go do it and I just

01:10:48.380 --> 01:10:51.319
want to encourage you to embark on it. Stick

01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.489
to it. Don't be like everybody else. Carve your

01:10:55.489 --> 01:10:57.350
own path. There's a life out there that's waiting

01:10:57.350 --> 01:11:00.729
for you. All it takes is the motivation, the

01:11:00.729 --> 01:11:03.130
discipline and the stuff that, you know, Michael

01:11:03.130 --> 01:11:04.949
and I are talking about today, but don't wait.

01:11:05.170 --> 01:11:07.689
Get after it right now. Make the decision and

01:11:07.689 --> 01:11:10.090
go do it and go do it. Shane, thank you for being

01:11:10.090 --> 01:11:12.409
here. And as we always say around this time,

01:11:12.630 --> 01:11:15.369
let's make thriving our new normal. Awesome.

01:11:15.449 --> 01:11:17.810
Thanks for having me. Michael loved it. Absolutely.
