WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.520 We've been taught that discomfort is actually 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:06.820 a sign that it shouldn't be. But as we look at 00:00:06.820 --> 00:00:10.240 just nature and anything, a seed literally has 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.740 to break through soil. A caterpillar has to struggle 00:00:13.740 --> 00:00:16.679 through its cocoon in order to have the strength 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:20.920 to fly. A freaking eagle kicks their baby eagles 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.670 out the nest, and they say, fly. So if you don't 00:00:24.670 --> 00:00:26.829 hit that ground, you learn how to fly. I found 00:00:26.829 --> 00:00:29.769 nearly 88 % report a mental health struggle with 00:00:29.769 --> 00:00:33.070 nearly 12 % citing no purpose or direction. I 00:00:33.070 --> 00:00:34.850 don't know, what does that tell you about the 00:00:34.850 --> 00:00:37.390 landscape of entrepreneurs with social media 00:00:37.390 --> 00:00:39.710 and clarity and things like that? Yeah, Michael 00:00:39.710 --> 00:00:42.409 first, can you send that article to me like this? 00:00:42.670 --> 00:00:44.950 And I get to come in their world and say, what 00:00:44.950 --> 00:00:48.000 do you need to remove from your life? to get 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.920 you unstuck. And oftentimes, we're so nurtured 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.560 to accumulate, I need more, I need more, I need 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.840 more. A story for people. Be as intelligent as 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.780 they are, but still be stuck or just living in 00:01:00.780 --> 00:01:03.119 this mental prison. That's a really good question. 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.200 And like the first common response would be fear. 00:01:06.500 --> 00:01:08.959 But as we look deeper, going back to where I 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.420 was sharing earlier, look deeply into it, I think 00:01:11.420 --> 00:01:14.299 about the stories we tell ourselves. As I coach 00:01:14.299 --> 00:01:16.640 many clients, the stories that they're telling 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.280 Is it empowering or disempowering? Is it showing 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.400 the story of resolve, resilience, the hero in 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.980 the story, or are they showing the victim of 00:01:23.980 --> 00:01:26.739 the story? What's up, fam? Before we get into 00:01:26.739 --> 00:01:28.599 this conversation, let me say this. Look, I know 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.340 it's a thing, right? 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Well, we just met 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.500 and I just want to say Brother David Prosper, 00:02:14.860 --> 00:02:17.280 which is a great last name. Welcome to the Thriveville 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.419 Journey podcast. How you doing? I'm doing well, 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.360 Michael. Thank you for having me. And I'm like, 00:02:21.460 --> 00:02:23.580 when we first got on, like, I want to say, I 00:02:23.580 --> 00:02:26.280 love your energy. So I'm excited for how this 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:30.699 this just uncover itself. Yeah. You know, we, 00:02:30.699 --> 00:02:34.639 we here at the Thriveville Journey. We here meaning 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.889 me and my producer, we, we look, we, we know 00:02:38.889 --> 00:02:42.229 who we want to have on the podcast based on the 00:02:42.229 --> 00:02:46.569 research. And it never fails to have great people 00:02:46.569 --> 00:02:48.909 on the podcast. And I can tell that you're one 00:02:48.909 --> 00:02:50.949 of them. And we're really going to be talking 00:02:50.949 --> 00:02:55.669 about your specialty, which is really finding 00:02:55.669 --> 00:03:00.210 clarity in your life and breaking free from the 00:03:00.210 --> 00:03:04.530 past. And before we get going, though, we'd always 00:03:04.530 --> 00:03:06.550 say we'd have this thing that you know we have 00:03:06.550 --> 00:03:09.909 this reflection reflective moment for our guests 00:03:09.909 --> 00:03:12.370 um and I'm just read this question to you and 00:03:12.370 --> 00:03:15.870 you can answer it how you will and uh the question 00:03:15.870 --> 00:03:18.810 is what's one truth about yourself that took 00:03:18.810 --> 00:03:21.590 you years to fully accept and how did embracing 00:03:21.590 --> 00:03:25.090 it change everything this is why that's a really 00:03:25.090 --> 00:03:27.610 good question I would say the biggest thing that 00:03:27.610 --> 00:03:31.840 I've had to accept and and welcome is, and I 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.460 learned about myself, is that I see things differently 00:03:35.460 --> 00:03:39.319 and I see past what is and what it could be. 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:44.120 And how I came to realize it was when I was a 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.379 sophomore in college at St. Norbert College in 00:03:46.379 --> 00:03:49.819 Green Bay, Wisconsin, and my professor, it was 00:03:49.819 --> 00:03:53.159 intro through humanities. He would often give 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.900 us pictures and give us poems and say, tell me 00:03:56.900 --> 00:04:00.159 the deeper meaning. And that class frustrated 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.639 me because he would always say, you're looking 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:04.139 at it, but I need you to look at it deeper. And 00:04:04.139 --> 00:04:05.900 I'm looking at this painting. He's like, what 00:04:05.900 --> 00:04:09.080 does it convey? So him pushing and nurturing 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.580 and cultivating that in me, like it was already 00:04:12.580 --> 00:04:15.500 there. But now I've learned to accept, like I 00:04:15.500 --> 00:04:18.439 see deeper than things. And then oftentimes I'm 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:20.639 looking at my people around me. I was like, did 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:22.019 you not notice that? And they're like, I had 00:04:22.019 --> 00:04:24.879 no clue what's going on. So I've come to just 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:29.370 accept that. see deeply into things and I Break 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:32.509 it down and I find the pros and cons like in 00:04:32.509 --> 00:04:35.089 nanosecond. So that's a really good question 00:04:35.089 --> 00:04:37.769 No, then I want to know how do you how do you 00:04:37.769 --> 00:04:41.670 do that? I mean That's probably why you're good 00:04:41.670 --> 00:04:43.790 and clarity and helping people with that. But 00:04:43.790 --> 00:04:50.569 like how do you do that? It's like when asking 00:04:50.569 --> 00:04:54.939 like a a magician or somebody like, how do you 00:04:54.939 --> 00:04:57.759 do it? Like, it's some people comes naturally. 00:04:57.939 --> 00:05:02.060 So for me, I break down in my mind what is effective, 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.300 what's ineffective. So if I'm listening to a 00:05:04.300 --> 00:05:07.019 speech or if I'm looking at a presidential debate, 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.040 I'm like, what's effective? What's not effective? 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.279 That's what my brain is constantly doing. I'm 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.160 like, oh, he said this. It drew in the crowd. 00:05:15.220 --> 00:05:17.259 Oh, that's effective. Well, he said this. This 00:05:17.259 --> 00:05:19.939 was emotionally charging. That's ineffective. 00:05:19.980 --> 00:05:23.250 So it's constantly And then once it does this 00:05:23.250 --> 00:05:27.269 assessment, what's really being said, not what's 00:05:27.269 --> 00:05:30.470 being showed, then I can make an assessment of, 00:05:30.910 --> 00:05:33.470 OK, based on that, how do I navigate forward? 00:05:33.790 --> 00:05:36.209 So it's constantly like, what's effective, what's 00:05:36.209 --> 00:05:39.649 not effective? And then looking at the human 00:05:39.649 --> 00:05:42.870 behavior, I'm like, OK, how's this gesture? What's 00:05:42.870 --> 00:05:45.769 going on? Understanding the context, what's happening 00:05:45.769 --> 00:05:50.329 around it. So it's being present wherever you're 00:05:50.329 --> 00:05:53.560 at. and like fully engaged, like what's happening 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.019 and then making a decision from there. So that's 00:05:56.019 --> 00:05:58.500 how I get to do it. If that made sense at all. 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.839 No, it made total sense. I was really, I was 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.439 like, man, that's really being totally in the 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.959 moment at the moment, like completely present, 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:11.899 not letting the past get into your future. That 00:06:11.899 --> 00:06:14.579 kind of thing, just really being there with the 00:06:14.579 --> 00:06:17.259 other persons or person, which is really cool. 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.660 Man, I find that interesting. I find that really 00:06:21.660 --> 00:06:25.319 interesting. You have an extraordinary story 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.120 too. Can you share like a little overview of 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.060 your story kind of like from where you came from 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:35.779 to where you are now? That's a good question. 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.240 I would say I'm a son of two Haitian immigrants 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:43.060 who came into this country where my mother wanted 00:06:43.060 --> 00:06:46.959 to give us the American dream where we had an 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.220 opportunity because growing up in Haiti, it's 00:06:50.220 --> 00:06:52.220 like this is a third world country. So opportunity 00:06:52.220 --> 00:06:56.680 is very scarce. So seeing how my mother came 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.079 out of the slums in the third world country of 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.120 Haiti, and now we're living in the projects of 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.899 Fort Lauderdale, Florida. And, you know, like 00:07:04.899 --> 00:07:08.939 that she made it in America, but I grew up poor. 00:07:09.339 --> 00:07:12.939 So. I saw a lot of skill sets that my mom embodied, 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:17.360 and it was resiliency, resourcefulness, and resolve. 00:07:17.459 --> 00:07:20.899 She was always determined. She was always resilient, 00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:23.779 and then she could make anything out of anything. 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:27.660 So those characteristics growing up in Fort Lauderdale 00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:30.139 then inspired me to continue to play football 00:07:30.139 --> 00:07:35.029 in track. And those things got me off of the 00:07:35.029 --> 00:07:36.709 streets, the projects, because a lot of my friends 00:07:36.709 --> 00:07:39.149 that were either selling drugs, they were stealing 00:07:39.149 --> 00:07:42.069 from things and people. And that's the trajectory 00:07:42.069 --> 00:07:44.050 I was heading on, like growing into projects. 00:07:44.310 --> 00:07:46.350 And sports literally saved my life and taught 00:07:46.350 --> 00:07:49.009 me so many skills as far as teamwork, understanding 00:07:49.009 --> 00:07:52.490 human dynamics, which then got me into college. 00:07:52.709 --> 00:07:56.970 And as I was an athlete and a student, I was 00:07:56.970 --> 00:07:59.329 always obsessed with why people do what they 00:07:59.329 --> 00:08:01.790 do. And growing up in the projects and seeing 00:08:01.790 --> 00:08:05.250 so many people who are very educated where I'm 00:08:05.250 --> 00:08:08.290 from, if you ask them anything, they're smart, 00:08:08.509 --> 00:08:12.350 but they live in this prison. And why do they 00:08:12.350 --> 00:08:14.610 live in this prison? So I just became obsessed. 00:08:15.689 --> 00:08:19.670 And it led me to figuring out what gets people 00:08:19.670 --> 00:08:24.610 to move. And my role in sales has led me to interacting 00:08:24.610 --> 00:08:27.480 with people. All that to say that the lessons 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.399 that I've learned, the hardships, the struggle 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.360 that I've seen throughout my world became the 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.700 catalyst to say, you know what? God, what's my 00:08:34.700 --> 00:08:38.220 purpose? What am I here for? And he spoke those 00:08:38.220 --> 00:08:41.120 words very audibly to me and it was clarity. 00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:44.320 And ever since then, I've been obsessed with 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.460 helping people find clarity because clarity equals 00:08:47.740 --> 00:08:50.320 progress, clarity equals confidence. So I'm like, 00:08:50.500 --> 00:08:53.259 if we have more clarity, more confident people, 00:08:53.379 --> 00:08:55.659 people who are more connected and more curious, 00:08:56.019 --> 00:08:58.360 what kind of world could that be? So all that 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.960 to say all of that pain, struggle and trauma 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.460 led me to where I am today. That's a lot. Not 00:09:03.460 --> 00:09:06.139 exactly your story. But a lot of people have 00:09:06.139 --> 00:09:09.279 that background as a story. Right? They have 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.460 you mentioned that they're smart people living 00:09:12.460 --> 00:09:14.559 in a prison. Yeah, it's a probably prison of 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.679 their own mind. Can you speak to that like what 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:25.139 why is that such a Just a just a story for people 00:09:25.139 --> 00:09:28.139 to be as Ellen's intelligent as they are but 00:09:28.139 --> 00:09:31.480 still be stuck or Just living in this mental 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.580 prison. Yeah, that's that's a really good question. 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.679 And like the first common response would be fear 00:09:37.850 --> 00:09:40.450 But as we look deeper, going back to what I was 00:09:40.450 --> 00:09:42.909 sharing earlier, look deeply into it, I think 00:09:42.909 --> 00:09:46.330 about the stories we tell ourselves. And as I 00:09:46.330 --> 00:09:49.730 coach many clients, I'm listening for, are their 00:09:49.730 --> 00:09:52.610 story, the stories that they're telling, is it 00:09:52.610 --> 00:09:55.230 empowering or disempowering? Is it showing a 00:09:55.230 --> 00:09:58.399 story of... resolve, resilient, the hero in the 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:00.179 story or are they showing the victim of the story? 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.200 So seeing the people in where I grew up, it was 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.299 the stories that they told themselves. It's like 00:10:05.299 --> 00:10:07.440 the white man's keeping me down. I can't make 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.299 it out. You know, it's a hard life. It's just 00:10:09.299 --> 00:10:12.659 it is what it is. And it was just like the stories 00:10:12.659 --> 00:10:16.059 shape our perspective. Our perspective shapes 00:10:16.059 --> 00:10:19.879 our paradigm. Our paradigm shapes our mentality 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.700 and it ultimately becomes our beliefs and our 00:10:22.700 --> 00:10:26.299 personality. So we get stuck in that story. And 00:10:26.299 --> 00:10:28.679 I think the beauty of getting out of that story 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.139 is exposure and education is one vehicle. Mentors 00:10:33.139 --> 00:10:35.720 is one vehicle. So it's just like, how do we 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.179 pause that story momentarily from going unstuck 00:10:39.179 --> 00:10:41.840 into like living in freedom? So that's the biggest 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:44.960 thing. Yeah. As you were saying that I was thinking 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:48.500 about my background. I don't really remember 00:10:48.500 --> 00:10:51.320 living in the projects, but it was like in Flint, 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.889 Michigan up to like three. And then we moved 00:10:53.889 --> 00:10:56.769 to Grand Rapids, Michigan. And all I knew, though, 00:10:57.110 --> 00:11:00.090 from, you know, three on to, I think, when I 00:11:00.090 --> 00:11:02.990 left for college, was moving around, love my 00:11:02.990 --> 00:11:06.009 mom, you know. She's no longer here, but I loved 00:11:06.009 --> 00:11:07.929 her, loved her, loved her. Um, but there was 00:11:07.929 --> 00:11:10.149 no stability for me on that side. On my dad's 00:11:10.149 --> 00:11:12.309 side, you know, it was, but I live with my mom. 00:11:12.470 --> 00:11:14.230 I grew up with my mom and I stayed with my dad 00:11:14.230 --> 00:11:17.350 from time to time. And so moving around was my 00:11:17.350 --> 00:11:20.850 story. You know, that's what happened. Um, and 00:11:20.850 --> 00:11:23.710 I saw in that was this is, this is not how I 00:11:23.710 --> 00:11:27.629 wanted to be. Right. And I got to college, went 00:11:27.629 --> 00:11:31.429 to Europe for a while, came back. And then in 00:11:31.429 --> 00:11:35.720 my twenties and on. I was living that story over 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.080 and over again. I was always moving. Moved to 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.620 California, moved from Michigan, Atlanta, Atlanta 00:11:40.620 --> 00:11:44.700 to California, and moving, still moving. In California, 00:11:44.779 --> 00:11:47.159 moving, moving, moving. And now I'm back in Georgia, 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.139 but I had to get out of that story. But I think 00:11:50.139 --> 00:11:52.639 it was something I was playing pervasively in 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.000 the back of my mind. It was in our subconscious. 00:11:56.179 --> 00:11:59.360 And I didn't realize it until I did, right? I 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:00.960 didn't know what I didn't know. What do you say 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.769 to people that are that are, that's them. They 00:12:04.769 --> 00:12:07.429 may not notice it now, but it's something they 00:12:07.429 --> 00:12:11.169 may have to face at some point. Yeah. I want 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:14.370 to celebrate the fact that you reflected enough 00:12:14.370 --> 00:12:17.049 and said like, okay, that was a story. And then 00:12:17.049 --> 00:12:19.470 I believe awareness is a first step of breakthrough. 00:12:19.590 --> 00:12:21.750 And the fact that you noticed that, okay, moving 00:12:21.750 --> 00:12:26.049 from California and now in Georgia. So it's like, 00:12:26.190 --> 00:12:29.490 you're moving, moving, moving. It's, and that's 00:12:29.490 --> 00:12:35.210 a loop. And Yes, get caught up in that and like, 00:12:35.350 --> 00:12:38.149 continue with life because life does such a phenomenal 00:12:38.149 --> 00:12:42.250 job at distracting us. So with pills and worries, 00:12:42.250 --> 00:12:44.909 so going to your question, what would I say to 00:12:44.909 --> 00:12:47.690 someone who's living in that or who's experienced 00:12:47.690 --> 00:12:49.870 that first I want to say I see you like I've 00:12:49.870 --> 00:12:54.470 been there. And I want to encourage you that 00:12:54.470 --> 00:12:58.379 this isn't the way that life is. Design you get 00:12:58.379 --> 00:13:01.980 to design it and co -design it and then the challenge 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:06.480 I would say is When's the last time you became 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.700 more present in the moments and reflect breathe? 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.519 Savor what you're eating and then when was the 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:17.100 last time you sincerely been curious Ask questions 00:13:17.100 --> 00:13:19.440 like why does this the way is designed who what 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.200 was the intention like? Trying to understand 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.899 art like you know if we can do those two things 00:13:24.899 --> 00:13:28.519 become more present and to ask more and more 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.659 questions as how is this design? Who designed 00:13:31.659 --> 00:13:35.039 it? What's the context? And be truly curious 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.700 about what's around us and what's in front of 00:13:37.700 --> 00:13:40.740 us. I believe only then can we start the journey 00:13:40.740 --> 00:13:44.600 of living in clarity. Yeah. It took a lot of 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.700 self -reflection. It took a lot of work. It took 00:13:48.700 --> 00:13:51.580 a lot of work to be this person right now. I 00:13:51.580 --> 00:13:54.639 can only imagine. If you don't mind me asking. 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.559 No, go ahead. What was the question? How old 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:04.600 are you? Oh, how am I 48? I had to think about 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.340 it for a minute. You know why it's so funny because 00:14:08.340 --> 00:14:11.759 maybe because we're talking about what had occurred. 00:14:11.929 --> 00:14:14.970 Like, I may have been back there mentally because 00:14:14.970 --> 00:14:18.710 I was, I swear to God, 30, 32, like it was in 00:14:18.710 --> 00:14:22.289 my head. I was like, I'm not 30 anything. You 00:14:22.289 --> 00:14:24.570 can tell me your biological age. It was like 00:14:24.570 --> 00:14:27.789 what I identify as like my age is 38, but I'm 00:14:27.789 --> 00:14:30.049 really 48 on my birth certificate. That's hilarious. 00:14:30.429 --> 00:14:33.909 Right. Exactly. So it took you 48 years. And 00:14:33.909 --> 00:14:36.870 for you, Michael, like, what would you say? Because 00:14:36.870 --> 00:14:38.809 again, this is a conversation. What would you 00:14:38.809 --> 00:14:42.299 say some of the points in your life that you've 00:14:42.299 --> 00:14:44.580 been anchored? Like what, what are some things 00:14:44.580 --> 00:14:47.399 that keep you anchored when, like we talked about 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.960 before, when the distractions, the stories, the 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:55.220 whirlwind of life happens? I'm curious. Um, what 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:59.960 gets me, I think maybe it's not that adopt a 00:14:59.960 --> 00:15:03.179 technique, but I think, um, just getting still. 00:15:04.740 --> 00:15:07.139 Um, so you know how sometimes what happened, 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.740 what will happen if, uh, when I'm living in a, 00:15:10.740 --> 00:15:14.399 just kind of like, building a company and building 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.659 a business like it could be a lot, right? So 00:15:16.659 --> 00:15:19.360 maybe in some days I'll be, you know, kind of 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:24.120 all over the place and and and trying to do something 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.059 but I don't or go somewhere and it feels like 00:15:26.059 --> 00:15:29.379 I'm not going anywhere. Um I'm like just in the 00:15:29.379 --> 00:15:31.539 same place place thinking I'm going somewhere. 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:36.860 Um what I'll do is like I'll catch myself. I 00:15:36.860 --> 00:15:39.419 can do this now but I don't know. Maybe years 00:15:39.419 --> 00:15:43.120 ago I couldn't but I'll catch myself. And I'm 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.159 like, is that, is this who I'm being right now? 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.639 Like am I being confused and am I, you know, 00:15:50.899 --> 00:15:52.500 not being the person that's really present and 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:54.580 still. And so what I'll do is I'll just stop. 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.960 I'll just stop everything and just get really 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:02.019 present and just chill. I'll just chill and I'll 00:16:02.019 --> 00:16:06.259 realize that all the stuff that's around me is 00:16:06.259 --> 00:16:10.120 still where it's at. It's just it's me. I'm the 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.360 hurricane of the situation. And I'll just get 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:18.019 still and come back to myself, basically, and 00:16:18.019 --> 00:16:21.960 wait for that moment to settle in. And then I'll 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.240 move on. So it takes something though. Yeah, 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.580 as I'm listening to you, like most people talk 00:16:29.580 --> 00:16:32.840 about the pause. But as I listen to you more 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.059 like you're like, it's not a hurricane around 00:16:35.059 --> 00:16:38.559 me and I'm the hurricane. Like, I'm hearing a 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.340 reset. And when I think of like, resetting my 00:16:42.340 --> 00:16:45.539 phone when it's acting slow, or it's not like 00:16:45.539 --> 00:16:48.659 pulling up the internet as fast as I want. I 00:16:48.659 --> 00:16:53.480 grew up on dial -up. Okay, okay. I know. My internet 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.919 is fast now. But as I'm listening to you, I'm 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.700 like, I'm hearing the power of the reset. And 00:16:59.700 --> 00:17:01.419 Michael, that could be a TED talk right there. 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.619 It's like the power of the reset. When life starts 00:17:04.619 --> 00:17:08.190 life in like, and you took that ownership too. 00:17:08.329 --> 00:17:10.990 You're like, I'm the hurricane. Most people with 00:17:10.990 --> 00:17:12.990 positions like I'm the hero in the story and 00:17:12.990 --> 00:17:16.210 all these things are happening to me. That speaks 00:17:16.210 --> 00:17:19.190 volume to like who you are and who you're becoming. 00:17:19.329 --> 00:17:22.630 That's beautiful. Yeah, I didn't hear that. Okay, 00:17:22.670 --> 00:17:23.849 I'm gonna write that down. Hold on a second. 00:17:25.849 --> 00:17:29.109 Write that down. But that's what you do. That's 00:17:29.109 --> 00:17:30.750 what you do. That's the kind of coach you are, 00:17:31.069 --> 00:17:35.500 right? Like you're listening for what people 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:39.259 are dealing with and how they can really, I guess, 00:17:39.460 --> 00:17:41.599 side with themselves or take care of it themselves 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:46.519 or how does that work? Oftentimes when I meet 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.380 people, especially my coaching clients or just 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:52.480 people in general, it's like, this is gonna sound 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.599 like a really bad example, but it is what it 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.000 is. It's like, we're all backed up. Like think 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.039 of your toilet, like we're all backed up and 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.160 everyone needs a flush. They know they need. 00:18:02.269 --> 00:18:05.910 love is like some stuff is stinking around the 00:18:05.910 --> 00:18:08.450 house but they're just like but I don't know 00:18:08.450 --> 00:18:10.529 where the flush is but the flush is literally 00:18:10.529 --> 00:18:12.630 right in front of the button and they're just 00:18:12.630 --> 00:18:14.910 like but there's so many other buttons so like 00:18:14.910 --> 00:18:17.130 think of it like your toilet has all these buttons 00:18:17.130 --> 00:18:19.569 like but which one to choose it's that long silver 00:18:19.569 --> 00:18:21.769 one but they're like but that one's clear that 00:18:21.769 --> 00:18:24.329 one's and I get to come in their world and say 00:18:24.329 --> 00:18:27.789 what do you need to remove from your life to 00:18:27.789 --> 00:18:32.190 get you unstuck And oftentimes we're so nurtured 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:34.910 to accumulate, I need more, I need more, I need 00:18:34.910 --> 00:18:38.049 more. But I'm like, what needs to get removed? 00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:40.470 And once we can start doing like the spring cleaning 00:18:40.470 --> 00:18:43.529 of our emotions in our mind, what happens is 00:18:43.529 --> 00:18:46.170 now we can start finding the things that we misplace, 00:18:46.730 --> 00:18:50.609 like our values, our identity, our dreams, our 00:18:50.609 --> 00:18:53.430 aspiration. But it doesn't happen when we start 00:18:53.430 --> 00:18:57.890 doing subtraction. And that's subtracting Places 00:18:57.890 --> 00:19:00.609 that we go to conversations that we have people 00:19:00.609 --> 00:19:03.269 that we hang out with so once we start moving 00:19:03.269 --> 00:19:06.029 things out then we can start focusing on what 00:19:06.029 --> 00:19:09.109 is and what was buried and then we can start 00:19:09.109 --> 00:19:13.309 planting those seeds of what Clarities next step 00:19:13.309 --> 00:19:15.730 can I take versus trying to understand everything? 00:19:15.849 --> 00:19:19.190 So as a coach I just I just help people clear 00:19:19.190 --> 00:19:21.750 to cut the clutter and then I'm like, alright 00:19:21.750 --> 00:19:23.710 Remember that thing you were missing when you 00:19:23.710 --> 00:19:25.289 think you were thinking about it being as a kid 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.559 Hey, let's talk about that dream. Why did that 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.700 dream die? Oh, somebody told me I wasn't smart 00:19:29.700 --> 00:19:33.019 enough. And then we unpack that and then we go 00:19:33.019 --> 00:19:35.200 right back to that dream so people feel like 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.819 they're making progress versus just circling 00:19:38.819 --> 00:19:41.819 the story of what's happened to them. When you 00:19:41.819 --> 00:19:45.220 say that, I'm thinking about how people live 00:19:45.220 --> 00:19:50.119 in the story or a superstition of themselves 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:55.440 or a story or whatever. And then you talked about 00:19:56.380 --> 00:20:01.500 the clutter. And my mind went to, you know, okay, 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:03.920 it's a podcast, we're on YouTube, you know, I 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:06.039 know, you know, social media, all that stuff, 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:10.059 right. And do you find like a lot of people that 00:20:10.059 --> 00:20:13.680 are that are kind of cluttered with all this 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:18.000 stuff, that all this new stuff, AI, social media, 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:23.990 whatever else is is really a source. of the lack 00:20:23.990 --> 00:20:28.029 of clarity, because it's so much right now. Yeah, 00:20:28.329 --> 00:20:32.089 we're inundated with information, with things. 00:20:32.309 --> 00:20:34.910 It's vying for our attention. I remember my college 00:20:34.910 --> 00:20:38.490 professor once told us, he said, the media doesn't 00:20:38.490 --> 00:20:40.589 tell you what to think, but what to think about. 00:20:41.450 --> 00:20:44.170 And it makes me think about everything that we 00:20:44.170 --> 00:20:47.130 have with AI, with social media. There's always 00:20:47.130 --> 00:20:51.539 something urgent. There's this one post I saw 00:20:51.539 --> 00:20:55.140 on TikTok. The creator was like, every time I 00:20:55.140 --> 00:20:58.220 get on social media, I make sure I post something 00:20:58.220 --> 00:21:02.440 like a content before I start scrolling. And 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.859 we're so conditioned to consume that we stop 00:21:06.859 --> 00:21:09.400 believing that we have the ability to create. 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:13.339 So the perception of social media is there's 00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:16.960 so much stuff, there's so much stuff. So we're 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:20.119 in the mindset of I need to consume. But finding 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:22.519 clarity is like, yeah, I can consume some stuff 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.559 that resonates with me, but let me also create 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.599 and contribute because I'm a creator. So it's 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.660 moving from, we're going to live on social media. 00:21:32.779 --> 00:21:35.660 We're going to live on a digital platforms, but 00:21:35.660 --> 00:21:39.400 how do we still create and design a life that 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:42.059 isn't alignment? So for me specifically, I know 00:21:42.059 --> 00:21:45.480 I'm a consumers. social media content. So I only 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.920 follow people that levels me up and anything 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.299 contrary to that. So I get to filter my content 00:21:53.299 --> 00:21:57.279 and whatever I consume, I imitate. So it's like 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.220 we can be courageous and strong and entrepreneurs 00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:03.039 and great people consume the content. Whatever 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.660 we're feeding is who we become. So I see it as 00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:12.299 a beauty even in the noise. And it's just filtering 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:14.380 what needs to get subtracted. Not everything 00:22:14.380 --> 00:22:18.299 can be the things that we consume and not everything 00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:22.140 in that season too. So yeah, I think so. That's 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:24.720 a great question, by the way. Yeah, do you? Thank 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:29.859 you. Man, there's so much. So I was looking at 00:22:29.859 --> 00:22:31.839 like, you know, what, I know you deal with a 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:33.200 lot of high achievers, entrepreneurs and things 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.279 like that. And I wanted to know a couple of things. 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.940 And so I Gather some information and this is 00:22:39.940 --> 00:22:43.920 a recent survey. I think I know I can't find 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.599 the name of the server right now, but it was 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.880 like 227 entrepreneurs since you talked about 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:52.380 that found nearly 88 percent 88 found nearly 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:54.960 88 percent Report a mental health to struggle 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:59.180 with nearly 12 percent citing no purpose or direction 00:22:59.180 --> 00:23:03.460 I don't know. What does that tell you about the 00:23:03.460 --> 00:23:06.900 the landscape of entrepreneurs with you know 00:23:06.900 --> 00:23:09.500 social media and clarity and things like that 00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:11.940 yeah michael first can you send that article 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:17.680 to me like that it's not dope but it's cool to 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:21.160 hear that it confirms i would say a lot of entrepreneurs 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.940 they they again going back to social media there's 00:23:23.940 --> 00:23:28.230 so many ways to make money so many ways So they 00:23:28.230 --> 00:23:32.150 see the affiliate deal. They see, oh, this, if 00:23:32.150 --> 00:23:35.250 I start doing cryptocurrency, if I start doing 00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:38.069 trading, and it's just like, again, it's a sea 00:23:38.069 --> 00:23:41.190 of information and noise. So I believe why a 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:43.069 lot of entrepreneurs and high achievers struggle 00:23:43.069 --> 00:23:45.809 with finding clarity is because, again, it goes 00:23:45.809 --> 00:23:48.849 back to the consume, consume from a place of 00:23:48.849 --> 00:23:51.589 I don't know me. So it's an identity issue more 00:23:51.589 --> 00:23:57.180 than anything else. So when we don't know when 00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:59.400 we don't know what kind of car we're driving, 00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:02.440 the destination that we're driving to, how our 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:05.259 car is wired, we're bound to make ineffective 00:24:05.259 --> 00:24:09.579 decisions. So I drive a Tesla, my friend drive 00:24:09.579 --> 00:24:12.680 a gas vehicle, like it drives differently. So 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.640 if I let go of the gas, it slows down. But for 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.220 a gas car, you have to continue to press it or 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:21.900 you gotta press the brake. So it's an identity 00:24:21.900 --> 00:24:25.509 issue. So we don't know who we are. And we don't 00:24:25.509 --> 00:24:27.829 start asking questions. Who are we becoming? 00:24:28.410 --> 00:24:30.730 How are we wired? How do we want to serve the 00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:34.589 world? What's our gifts? So we think we can find 00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:40.009 it in activities. So what we talk about in Clarity 00:24:40.009 --> 00:24:44.650 coaching is alignment. Alignment is who I'm not 00:24:44.650 --> 00:24:47.230 a serve. What am I good at? What are my core 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:53.460 values? And who do I belong to? So once we understand 00:24:53.460 --> 00:24:55.640 our identity and we can start working on our 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.059 beliefs, because there's people who believe if 00:24:59.059 --> 00:25:01.319 I do a lot of action, if I'm successful on the 00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:03.619 outside, eventually I'll be successful on the 00:25:03.619 --> 00:25:06.980 inside. That's a broken belief in a lot of entrepreneurial 00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:10.140 leaders. They feel that empty feeling and lack 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:13.920 of fulfillment. So it's shifting that beliefs 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.619 is what do I believe to be true about me? And 00:25:16.619 --> 00:25:19.680 then it's the action. What actions that are constant 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.059 alignment, just like when you said when you feel 00:25:22.059 --> 00:25:25.200 yourself drifting, you reset. I think a lot of 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.799 entrepreneurs don't have that reset and don't 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.839 have that anchor. And it's grounded in a lot 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:35.059 of competition of, oh, you're doing that. I want 00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.299 to do that. Or envy. It's not coming from a place 00:25:38.299 --> 00:25:42.819 of true creation. And I believe there's there's 00:25:42.819 --> 00:25:45.799 so much to be created. So but you hear that statistic. 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.950 It's it's alarming. Because there's a lot of 00:25:49.950 --> 00:25:52.029 influencers who are out there here on the travel 00:25:52.029 --> 00:25:54.710 journey We talk a lot about not just surviving 00:25:54.710 --> 00:25:58.130 but thriving and a big part of that for me has 00:25:58.130 --> 00:26:00.630 been understanding my health on a deeper level 00:26:00.630 --> 00:26:03.230 That's why I partnered with live good and brought 00:26:03.230 --> 00:26:06.410 it under my company Oriental Not just because 00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:09.089 I believe in the products but because I've seen 00:26:09.089 --> 00:26:11.490 what they can do firsthand I've walked through 00:26:11.490 --> 00:26:13.990 some hard health chapters in my life including 00:26:14.269 --> 00:26:17.849 cancer, and a kidney transplant. And I know what 00:26:17.849 --> 00:26:20.849 it feels like when your body's working against 00:26:20.849 --> 00:26:23.569 you. 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Once we break away from that 00:27:40.390 --> 00:27:43.029 story plot line, and then we start moving into 00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:47.009 what's truly important to me. I believe that's 00:27:47.009 --> 00:27:50.109 where purpose and fulfillment and the aliveness 00:27:50.109 --> 00:27:54.069 and the connection and the freedom of expression 00:27:54.069 --> 00:27:56.730 starts living. I don't know how to frame this. 00:27:57.430 --> 00:28:00.470 Do you? Okay, let me try to bring context first. 00:28:00.650 --> 00:28:07.069 So with all the frame, the scrolling through 00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:09.470 the social media, the entrepreneur trying to 00:28:09.470 --> 00:28:14.009 find his or her identity, and they have all these 00:28:14.009 --> 00:28:16.349 things that are speaking to them, you know, you 00:28:16.349 --> 00:28:19.069 can make this much money doing this, and they 00:28:19.069 --> 00:28:22.190 go into it and they find it like not working 00:28:22.190 --> 00:28:24.490 for them, then they go to something else. And 00:28:24.490 --> 00:28:27.289 it's like a, you know, just they own a swing 00:28:27.289 --> 00:28:30.500 set, jumping from thing, you know, thing to thing 00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:33.799 but never finding themselves or what they're 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.000 they're truly connected to. That is the reset 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.440 that we're talking about like so that they can 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.400 really truly identity is what I'm saying. I guess 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.299 they need to find the identity for themselves 00:28:44.299 --> 00:28:46.660 before they keep clicking and spending money 00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:51.319 going down the funnel. Yeah. Identity is it sums 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.039 it all up. Identity sums it up. Yeah. You are 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.099 you sent an email. I tried to find it, I couldn't 00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:03.380 find it, but you have these archetypes. And I 00:29:03.380 --> 00:29:07.000 did one, my producer, Yvonne, the producer, she 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.119 did one. Can you talk about archetypes? Like, 00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:12.140 why are they important, you know, for someone 00:29:12.140 --> 00:29:14.819 who's trying to find themselves intentionally? 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.619 Yeah, it's like a board game. Thank you for doing 00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:21.900 that architect quiz. I appreciate that. It's 00:29:21.900 --> 00:29:24.740 like a board game. And I envision monopolies. 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.019 Sometimes people with a shoe, they're the hat. 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.140 So with the archetype, it's the clarity archetype 00:29:30.140 --> 00:29:32.259 helps you understand where you're at in the season 00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:36.400 and how you identify currently. So it's the wanderer. 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.920 The wanderer is the individual who's like going 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.259 through a fog, they're driving, they're squinting, 00:29:41.299 --> 00:29:44.240 they're tense. They know that their destination's 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.799 on the other side, but they can't quite see it. 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.920 They don't know how and it's like. there's a 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.920 lot of ambiguity and chaos and turmoil inside, 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.640 then they meet somebody on the journey of the 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.119 road and then that person asks them a clarity 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.140 catalyst question that uncovers an entire new 00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:06.660 world for them. So they become a seeker. They're 00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:11.279 inspired. They're like, oh, ah, like. I'm fascinated 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.640 by how the brain works and how behavior works. 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.599 So I'm going to understand neuroscience and psychology. 00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.319 I'm interested about nutrition. And then the 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.059 seeker is constantly consuming information, attended 00:30:22.059 --> 00:30:25.660 networking events and just looking for that knowledge. 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.299 They're obsessed with understanding how it works. 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.599 And then that seeker then meets another person 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.619 on the journey. And that person is like, have 00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:36.619 you created a system that you can follow? And 00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:39.099 then they become that architect and the architect 00:30:39.099 --> 00:30:42.400 is like, OK, I've consumed and gathered enough 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.519 data now with this data. What is the story that 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.819 I want to create and co -create with my creator? 00:30:49.059 --> 00:30:52.220 And they start designing their ecosystems, their 00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:55.359 friendships group. They start redesigning their 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.980 relationship if they've been married or together 00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:01.119 with platonic and romantic relationships so that 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.519 the life that they're living is a life that they've 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.019 created versus a life they've been given to by 00:31:08.019 --> 00:31:10.859 default. And then once that person is practicing 00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:12.759 designing their lives long enough, they move 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.880 into the last archetype, which is the flow master. 00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:18.660 And the flow master is so grounded and rooted. 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.200 So it is grounded in the values and the identity 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.839 in the systems that it's built. And now it's 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:31.339 starting to produce fruit and seeds and give 00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:34.160 inspiration and mentor and water and inspire 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.039 others to start taking a journey. So. the four 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.220 archetypes just shows you where you're at in 00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:43.480 a journey. And then the quiz also breaks down 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.500 even deeper. The PDF that that comes with it 00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:50.019 or should come with it breaks down even deeper, 00:31:50.019 --> 00:31:52.940 like what type of career roles that you might 00:31:52.940 --> 00:31:56.880 be in. What's your relationship dynamic? What 00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.799 are your strengths and weaknesses? And we all 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:01.960 go through the cycles at different points of 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.880 our lives because we're all going to go in transitions. 00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:09.049 So just to show you where you're at, we're never 00:32:09.049 --> 00:32:11.490 fixed. Sometimes we can be two clarity types 00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:15.349 in one day, an architect and a seeker or a wanderer 00:32:15.349 --> 00:32:17.150 because we're doing something new in our business 00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:19.930 or a flow master in our relationship. So like 00:32:19.930 --> 00:32:22.950 we move interchangeably between all of them, 00:32:23.130 --> 00:32:25.190 but it's just knowing where we're at and how 00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:28.009 to navigate. Oh, so the question may seem weird 00:32:28.009 --> 00:32:30.190 because we keep talking about it, right? And 00:32:30.190 --> 00:32:35.069 it seems like it's self understandable. That's 00:32:35.069 --> 00:32:38.759 a thing. What is what is clarity and how important 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.420 is it? Like, I know it's a basic question is 00:32:41.420 --> 00:32:44.200 should be like very clear to people. But I don't 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.400 know if it is. It's not I'm learning on this 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.880 journey. Like a brother because I'm an amateur 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.839 boxer is like you have a book coming out. It's 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.940 called finding clarity. I'm like, yeah. It's 00:32:53.940 --> 00:33:01.119 like, what's that? So I was like, okay, I gotta 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.160 simplify this. So clarity is putting on new glasses 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.720 of life, seeing clear past what you thought you 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:14.759 saw before. So it is wisdom. It is making good, 00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:20.000 effective decision. Instead of asking what is 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.440 the best or what is the good or wrong way to 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.059 do things, asking what is the best thing to do, 00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:31.529 given everything I've understood. Taking your 00:33:31.529 --> 00:33:34.150 next right step and is just seeing things more 00:33:34.150 --> 00:33:37.670 clearly and understanding things more Holistically 00:33:37.670 --> 00:33:41.029 so you can move effectively is how I would define 00:33:41.029 --> 00:33:43.970 it and in that clear in that world of clarity 00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:47.710 People you could really start discovering your 00:33:47.710 --> 00:33:51.069 purpose, right? Yeah Some people are unsure about 00:33:51.069 --> 00:33:55.369 what that is still how does that? Find that clarity 00:33:55.369 --> 00:33:57.569 helps somebody find their purpose when they're 00:33:57.569 --> 00:34:00.220 just so unsure even though they're like Yeah, 00:34:00.220 --> 00:34:03.619 I want to be a, you know, a X, whatever it is. 00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:06.680 But that's clear to them, but they don't know 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.559 necessarily how to live that or navigate that 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.960 purpose. Yeah, I think we've been so we've been 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.219 conditioned and we've been marketed to such such 00:34:17.219 --> 00:34:20.420 phenomenally well and I've been in that system. 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.760 We have to know our purpose. And then we we compare 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.320 ourselves to people who know their purpose and 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:27.739 people and they're like, well, they know their 00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:29.940 purpose. How come I don't know my purpose? They 00:34:29.940 --> 00:34:31.679 know their purpose because they start taking 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.519 steps and they started getting feedback. So clarity 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.840 is, okay, what is my next right step? And as 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.380 I take my next right step, it creates a compound 00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:46.320 clarity and compound clarity becomes a movement. 00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:51.340 And then we start understanding who's in alignment 00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:54.880 and who's not in alignment. So I break it down 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.760 in my upcoming book, The C5 Model, which is capacity. 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.400 Do I have the ability to hold what's in the season 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:09.679 for me? Am I growing? Is my ability to navigate 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.360 things increasing? And then number two on the 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:17.340 C5 is competency. Am I developing the skill set 00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:21.900 to understand what I'm aspiring to or what I'm 00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:24.119 currently doing? Am I becoming a master in what 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.900 I'm doing? And then the third C is courage. Am 00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:30.420 I taking those steps to move forward despite 00:35:30.420 --> 00:35:34.260 feeling fear? And then number four on the C5 00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:38.800 is connection. Who am I connected to and what 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.340 am I connected to in this season? So my grandfather 00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:44.340 would always say, tell me who your friends are 00:35:44.340 --> 00:35:46.559 and I'll tell you where your future goes. And 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.539 then he would go off and say, the first place 00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:51.599 you go blind is in the eye. And I was like, where 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:56.329 else would you do that? But it's connecting to 00:35:56.329 --> 00:35:58.769 the right people in the right things. And then 00:35:58.769 --> 00:36:03.610 the last C of the C5 model is curiosity. Am I 00:36:03.610 --> 00:36:06.909 exploring what's around me? What am I doing? 00:36:07.309 --> 00:36:10.889 And I think if we start implementing those C5s, 00:36:11.610 --> 00:36:15.510 then it starts giving us better feedback to align 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:18.489 what we're good at. How do we want to serve the 00:36:18.489 --> 00:36:21.590 world? And how can we make money doing it? Yeah, 00:36:21.730 --> 00:36:25.289 I like I like all that. Now you talk about also 00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:28.409 you talk about the messy middle. And I would 00:36:28.409 --> 00:36:33.250 you just explain a bit of you know, your your 00:36:33.250 --> 00:36:36.670 your your five C's is that does that help somebody 00:36:36.670 --> 00:36:39.110 that's in the middle that's finding clarity have 00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:43.230 a purpose. And then I guess, somewhere in the 00:36:43.230 --> 00:36:45.610 between there that just got get all confused 00:36:45.610 --> 00:36:47.789 don't know what's going on. You know, trying 00:36:47.789 --> 00:36:49.650 to find their navigate their life and all that 00:36:49.650 --> 00:36:52.590 kind of good stuff. Yeah. When we're in a messy 00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:55.489 middle, we're in a learning phase. So we're definitely 00:36:55.489 --> 00:36:59.090 building our capacity and think about anything 00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:01.769 we've learned. The learning phase suck. Yeah, 00:37:01.889 --> 00:37:06.170 it does. I'm in it right now for something I'm 00:37:06.170 --> 00:37:08.690 doing. Oh, I'm so excited for you. Cause when 00:37:08.690 --> 00:37:09.889 you come on the other end, you're going to be 00:37:09.889 --> 00:37:12.829 able to teach that. Yeah. The learning phase 00:37:12.829 --> 00:37:15.469 sucks. So the messy middle is a learning. And 00:37:15.469 --> 00:37:18.210 one, one of the phrases I learned in college, 00:37:18.289 --> 00:37:22.420 my freshman year of college in football camp, 00:37:22.739 --> 00:37:25.579 one of the seniors said, marry the process and 00:37:25.579 --> 00:37:28.719 the outcomes inevitable. And at the age of 17, 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.179 I was like, what the heck does this mean? But 00:37:31.179 --> 00:37:33.519 as I became older and more mature, I was like, 00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:37.539 we are so hyper -focused, myself included, especially 00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:40.280 as high achievers, on the outcome. I have this 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.320 vision. I want to see this vision done last year. 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.239 But the development is in the process. Like, 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.059 how am I making progress in the process? I got 00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:52.500 1 % better today. I got 2 % better and the compound 00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:54.719 effect one of my favorite book compound effect 00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:00.820 is it it exponentially catapults us to where 00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.460 we're going and Then once we start meeting people 00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:07.579 so it's marrying the process so when someone's 00:38:07.579 --> 00:38:10.059 in the middle the easier thing is like exercising 00:38:10.059 --> 00:38:13.320 and I'm an amateur boxer and One of the things 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.619 that suck is like during sparring sessions like 00:38:15.619 --> 00:38:19.070 I want to give up like my lungs are heavy and 00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:20.889 like I'm still getting hit and I have to defend 00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:26.010 but uh it's it's saying okay like this is uncomfortable 00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:29.230 but I know if I endure this long enough I just 00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:33.449 gotta finish I just got so individuals in the 00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:36.829 middle in the messy middle just finish just keep 00:38:36.829 --> 00:38:38.969 on walking one foot in front of the other and 00:38:38.969 --> 00:38:41.570 I promise you on the other side it's gonna be 00:38:41.570 --> 00:38:43.510 so effective and you're gonna look back and say 00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:46.030 man I'm glad I did it and I don't have any regret 00:38:46.030 --> 00:38:49.309 and then you're gonna reach out and teach someone 00:38:49.309 --> 00:38:53.550 else because while we go through it is our chance 00:38:53.550 --> 00:38:57.670 to learn so we can minimize people's experiences 00:38:57.670 --> 00:38:59.630 so they can exponentially get to where they're 00:38:59.630 --> 00:39:03.269 trying to get to. One of the powerful things 00:39:03.269 --> 00:39:06.469 you said in that was just finish. So many people 00:39:06.469 --> 00:39:10.050 and I'm right here too. You start something and 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:12.070 you just know it's for you. You get that messy 00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:16.250 middle and you won't complete it and then you 00:39:16.250 --> 00:39:18.610 now you start back at the beginning again. Yeah. 00:39:19.250 --> 00:39:23.110 I mean that's such a a cycle again this is I 00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:25.590 had to call myself out man. I had to call myself 00:39:25.590 --> 00:39:28.489 out time and time again. I'm like dude I don't 00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:32.030 look okay this is past your like you said capacity 00:39:32.030 --> 00:39:34.349 this is past your capacity but you can grow your 00:39:34.349 --> 00:39:36.849 capacity this is me talking to myself you can 00:39:36.849 --> 00:39:39.110 grow your capacity because now you're on this 00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:42.469 road and you ain't getting off so Keep going. 00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:45.289 I have to tell myself that. But a lot of people, 00:39:45.489 --> 00:39:49.969 you know, and I know a few, not me anymore. I'm 00:39:49.969 --> 00:39:51.530 just claiming that. I'm declaring that I'm not 00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:56.269 that person. That I is not me. They'll get on 00:39:56.269 --> 00:40:00.409 that road and get in that messy space and then 00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:04.849 just give up. Like, get some clarity on these 00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:07.809 people that's listening and watching. That's 00:40:07.809 --> 00:40:10.889 them. Getting that messy space and be like, oh, 00:40:10.889 --> 00:40:12.949 I can't do this. And then they go back to the 00:40:12.949 --> 00:40:17.010 beginning again. We've been taught that discomfort 00:40:17.010 --> 00:40:20.750 is actually a sign that it shouldn't be. But 00:40:20.750 --> 00:40:25.090 as we look at just nature and anything, a seed 00:40:25.090 --> 00:40:28.909 literally has to break through soil. A caterpillar 00:40:28.909 --> 00:40:32.650 has to struggle through its cocoon in order to 00:40:32.650 --> 00:40:36.909 have the strength to fly. A freaking eagle kicks 00:40:36.909 --> 00:40:40.389 their baby eagles out the nest, and they say, 00:40:40.570 --> 00:40:45.139 fly. So, and if you don't hit that ground, you 00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:53.300 learn how to fly. Right. So, so when we see any 00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:56.579 type of resistance, we're like, that's the word, 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.820 we slow down. But if any one of us has ever exercised 00:41:00.820 --> 00:41:04.260 in the gym before the failure is how we build 00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:07.599 muscle. So like people, we go to the gym just 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.789 to fail. Like, all right, we failed today. Great 00:41:09.789 --> 00:41:12.710 job. We celebrate that. What if we take that 00:41:12.710 --> 00:41:14.670 and, oh, we failed today? That means we're getting 00:41:14.670 --> 00:41:17.389 better. Our muscle, our capacity is increasing. 00:41:17.929 --> 00:41:19.849 Our wisdom is increasing. Like, oh, that didn't 00:41:19.849 --> 00:41:24.110 work this time. And it's like the middle is where 00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:28.150 you build the muscle and the gains to support 00:41:28.150 --> 00:41:31.230 literally everything else. But you're just like, 00:41:31.269 --> 00:41:33.170 no, that's too much resistance. I don't want 00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:36.349 to be strong. It's like, and I had this conversation 00:41:36.349 --> 00:41:38.929 with one of my clients today. I was so upset 00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:44.469 with her. She was like, I was alone today. And 00:41:44.469 --> 00:41:47.369 I realized I don't like being lonely. And it 00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.929 made me emotional. I was like, isn't that what 00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:52.750 you prayed for? You prayed so that you're no 00:41:52.750 --> 00:41:55.590 longer dependent emotionally on other people. 00:41:55.989 --> 00:42:00.389 And you got what you prayed for. She was like, 00:42:00.409 --> 00:42:02.789 I didn't even think of that. I was like, now 00:42:02.789 --> 00:42:05.309 you have nothing but time and space to love yourself. 00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:09.150 And she was like, oh. I was like exactly so like 00:42:09.150 --> 00:42:11.809 when we pray for strength God says great I'm 00:42:11.809 --> 00:42:13.849 gonna give you some weights we pray for love 00:42:13.849 --> 00:42:16.630 we get some people you like the things that we're 00:42:16.630 --> 00:42:18.989 manifesting like we're getting the opportunity 00:42:18.989 --> 00:42:22.250 to develop the skill set to maintain it because 00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:25.469 I believe like anyone can get things but most 00:42:25.469 --> 00:42:28.070 very few people can maintain things so in the 00:42:28.070 --> 00:42:31.949 messy middle is your ability in your opportunity 00:42:31.949 --> 00:42:36.010 to maintain sustain and ultimately elevate whatever 00:42:36.010 --> 00:42:39.750 you achieve So stay. Maintain, sustain, and elevate. 00:42:40.809 --> 00:42:43.210 You were talking, and I'm trying to find it in 00:42:43.210 --> 00:42:46.409 my notes. You talked about some emotional something. 00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:48.090 It wasn't emotional intelligence. It was something 00:42:48.090 --> 00:42:51.530 else. What was it? Emotional capacity, emotional 00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:54.909 regulation. Maybe you talked about emotional 00:42:54.909 --> 00:42:57.510 capacity. It's in some of my notes here. I apologize. 00:42:58.409 --> 00:43:03.909 So how does one build that? Because I would just 00:43:03.909 --> 00:43:08.559 say, I mean, is it just through trial and just 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.039 situational things or how does that show for 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:16.000 people? Because not everybody has a great level 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.699 of emotional understanding, especially in the 00:43:19.699 --> 00:43:23.820 entrepreneurship world. Deals break off because 00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:26.659 people can't deal with each other or things in 00:43:26.659 --> 00:43:30.239 that space. And, you know, how does someone grow 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.139 that for themselves? That's a great question. 00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:35.179 And I remember hearing a story of a gentleman 00:43:35.179 --> 00:43:38.860 who was like the best at spotting counterfeit 00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:42.760 money. And they asked him, how did you do that? 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.679 Or how are you able to like nanoseconds, you 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.320 know, spot a fake? He was like, because I studied 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.840 what looks right. So you ask, how can someone 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.320 build that capacity to have emotional discernment, 00:43:57.500 --> 00:43:59.599 to have emotional regulation, to increase their 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.539 emotional intelligence? um to navigate emotionally 00:44:03.539 --> 00:44:07.099 charged up situations it's a great question i 00:44:07.099 --> 00:44:09.780 would encourage everyone to study what works 00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:12.960 and for me specifically i studied the book of 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.239 proverbs which is in the bible and that's the 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.519 book of wisdom so it tells you like how how to 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.420 navigate life and there's other authors who do 00:44:23.420 --> 00:44:25.320 a phenomenal job i just believe the bible is 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:31.250 the best um but it's a studying wisdom And I'm 00:44:31.250 --> 00:44:34.989 a fan of Marcus Aurelius and great philosophers. 00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:39.010 So how to increase it? Study the ones who have 00:44:39.010 --> 00:44:43.110 done it right. Study the wisdom and then take 00:44:43.110 --> 00:44:45.389 a next step because it's not just good to know, 00:44:45.469 --> 00:44:50.590 it's to apply. So learning ways to apply. And 00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:53.210 for me, I've learned this in therapy about tapping. 00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:56.530 So if I feel emotionally charged up in my relationship 00:44:56.530 --> 00:44:58.929 or my girlfriend is saying something, And I want 00:44:58.929 --> 00:45:01.650 to respond to her and love and understand where 00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:04.469 she's coming from without getting charged up. 00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:09.650 I start tapping. I breathe. And I'm like, I'm 00:45:09.650 --> 00:45:11.789 feeling a little triggered right now. So it's 00:45:11.789 --> 00:45:15.309 like, it's one thing to know how wisdom is another 00:45:15.309 --> 00:45:18.929 thing to apply the wisdom of navigating emotionally 00:45:18.929 --> 00:45:21.869 charged up situation, regulating your emotions 00:45:21.869 --> 00:45:25.250 and then understanding the emotions and the context 00:45:25.250 --> 00:45:27.550 in which someone's coming from. And it's not 00:45:27.550 --> 00:45:30.130 justifying their behavior, but it's choosing 00:45:30.130 --> 00:45:34.630 the healthier approach. So I would end with that. 00:45:36.289 --> 00:45:39.489 That's a great, like, resolve for people, I think. 00:45:40.769 --> 00:45:43.510 But someone has to be willing to do that. Yeah. 00:45:45.150 --> 00:45:47.090 Well, they used to say you can't push a parked 00:45:47.090 --> 00:45:53.190 car. So like, yeah. That's funny. But it's true. 00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:57.579 It's very true. And I know you kind of touched 00:45:57.579 --> 00:46:01.059 on this earlier, but you're talking about your 00:46:01.059 --> 00:46:04.380 clarity framework, right? And since we're talking 00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:07.980 about emotional awareness, how does that feature 00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:11.139 in your framework? Especially since we're talking 00:46:11.139 --> 00:46:12.739 about entrepreneurs, they're just kind of stuck 00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:18.320 in action. How does that play? Yeah. So the emotional... 00:46:18.409 --> 00:46:21.409 regulation and intelligence, it feeds into like 00:46:21.409 --> 00:46:23.809 the C5 model, which is the clarity framework. 00:46:24.230 --> 00:46:27.710 And that that goes under competency. And like 00:46:27.710 --> 00:46:29.949 you said, somebody has to be willing. There's 00:46:29.949 --> 00:46:32.070 also courage. It's not like one through five. 00:46:32.510 --> 00:46:36.230 It's the five. And then you use it however it 00:46:36.230 --> 00:46:39.070 makes sense. So like you said, it takes courage 00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:41.670 to be like, you know what? I am not competent 00:46:41.670 --> 00:46:46.409 in this area. So how do I develop my skill set? 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.539 so I can be a better husband, spouse, partner, 00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:52.960 business owner, leader in a way that it moves 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.059 people forward versus push people forward or 00:46:56.059 --> 00:47:02.300 away. So it's communicating and understanding 00:47:02.300 --> 00:47:06.239 businesses, relationships. So how, if I get better 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.320 at relationships, I ultimately get better at 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.119 business. So when people like separates like 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.630 communication, it's interchangeable because Even 00:47:15.630 --> 00:47:18.849 AI, you have to communicate to AI effectively. 00:47:18.929 --> 00:47:22.269 So if you have crappy prompts on chat, GBT is 00:47:22.269 --> 00:47:25.949 because the communication is crap. So it's like 00:47:25.949 --> 00:47:29.230 once we get better at relationships, growing 00:47:29.230 --> 00:47:32.730 our competency there, the business side become 00:47:32.730 --> 00:47:34.969 even easier. Marketing is saying, hey, I want 00:47:34.969 --> 00:47:37.010 a relationship with you. Sales is saying, hey, 00:47:37.110 --> 00:47:39.889 we're getting into a relationship with you. Operation 00:47:39.889 --> 00:47:42.969 is saying, hey, this is how our relational rhythms 00:47:42.969 --> 00:47:48.800 are going. HR is saying, let's do check ins in 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.460 our relationship, businesses relationship. So 00:47:51.460 --> 00:47:54.239 like if we grow our competency, their emotional 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.980 intelligence, how to navigate it with people 00:47:56.980 --> 00:47:59.880 in different personalities, I believe will thrive, 00:48:00.179 --> 00:48:04.619 ha, thrive. You're right. Very nice. Very nice. 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.719 Very nice. Very nice. I want to throw this last 00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:12.980 statistic at you real quick. It says nearly 45 00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:16.320 % of employees now expect purpose in their work, 00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.739 up from 29 % just a year ago, I guess is the 00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:23.860 most recent. Do you think or can you speak on 00:48:23.860 --> 00:48:27.159 how like, clarity becomes a like a competitive 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.780 advantage for people who are like, my work is 00:48:31.780 --> 00:48:35.519 my purpose. And, and that's their they're aligned 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:41.289 with their jobs. Yeah, it's The advantage I see 00:48:41.289 --> 00:48:44.030 the visual I want to create is now there's this 00:48:44.030 --> 00:48:48.090 viral thing in Indonesia, the rowers and this 00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:52.489 kid is dancing. It's like the Olympic rower team 00:48:52.489 --> 00:48:58.429 and then the kindergarten class at recess. If 00:48:58.429 --> 00:49:01.789 that painted the visual Olympic team and then 00:49:01.789 --> 00:49:04.530 kindergarten class at recess, one is chaotic 00:49:04.530 --> 00:49:06.929 and that's a lot of organizations. They're like, 00:49:07.010 --> 00:49:08.650 a lot of people are doing things. A lot of hands 00:49:08.650 --> 00:49:11.909 are in their different pots. And it was like, 00:49:12.349 --> 00:49:14.389 we have a mission. We have values that we put 00:49:14.389 --> 00:49:16.750 on the walls, but we really don't know where 00:49:16.750 --> 00:49:18.289 we're going. And I've been a part of a lot of 00:49:18.289 --> 00:49:21.349 those organizations. It was like, we're so mission 00:49:21.349 --> 00:49:24.869 driven that we forget why we do what we do. We 00:49:24.869 --> 00:49:28.309 know what we do. We know how we do what we do, 00:49:28.309 --> 00:49:30.789 but we don't know why we do it. And we don't 00:49:30.789 --> 00:49:34.710 stay in that space of how do we evolve? versus 00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:37.550 the business who has clarity, their leader has 00:49:37.550 --> 00:49:39.630 clarity and like your statistic that was beautiful. 00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:43.250 The leader first has to do that C5 model themselves 00:49:43.250 --> 00:49:46.489 and then train and develop their subordinates 00:49:46.489 --> 00:49:51.170 and team to implement it as well. And if a business 00:49:51.170 --> 00:49:54.369 has clarity, it's like everyone is focused. It's 00:49:54.369 --> 00:49:58.130 like a Super Bowl team. Everyone knows the mission. 00:49:58.269 --> 00:50:01.050 They know what's going on and they execute as 00:50:01.050 --> 00:50:04.309 one. But when teams and organizations and leaders 00:50:04.309 --> 00:50:07.090 and entrepreneurs don't have clarity, they're 00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:09.329 the playground full of kindergarten kids. It's 00:50:09.329 --> 00:50:13.909 crazy and chaotic. Dodgeball. Right. Just like, 00:50:14.230 --> 00:50:16.349 let me just do the shoe. He was supposed to throw 00:50:16.349 --> 00:50:19.809 the ball. So it's just like, hold on. I'm supposed 00:50:19.809 --> 00:50:21.510 to use this tool, but I didn't use this tool 00:50:21.510 --> 00:50:24.369 effective. And that's understanding why we do 00:50:24.369 --> 00:50:28.409 what we do. So if our purpose like Amazon to 00:50:28.409 --> 00:50:33.280 be the the best customer service company in the 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.480 world on the planet, like they're constantly 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.659 like, okay, even if this is gonna take away from 00:50:38.659 --> 00:50:41.460 my business, like if you buy something from Amazon, 00:50:41.539 --> 00:50:44.000 you don't like it, you don't, I think some policy, 00:50:44.059 --> 00:50:45.400 you don't have to ship it back. They'll ship 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.739 you a new one. And it's just like, they minimize 00:50:48.739 --> 00:50:51.260 the friction of like, oh man, I have to go to 00:50:51.260 --> 00:50:53.900 the post office and ship this. because they want 00:50:53.900 --> 00:50:56.360 to have the best customer service in the planet. 00:50:56.539 --> 00:51:01.000 That's their purpose. So the mission changes, 00:51:01.219 --> 00:51:04.360 the assignment changes, but the purpose always 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.460 remain the end goal. So we can change the vehicle, 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.420 but the vision has to stay the same. And that's 00:51:10.420 --> 00:51:13.739 what gives us the ability to marry the process 00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:17.920 and the outcome is inevitable. I was just picturing 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.360 actually this big old light that's ahead of me, 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.599 above me. I had that experience with Amazon. 00:51:25.019 --> 00:51:28.219 So that's where my mind went. Like, it was so 00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:32.619 it's a, I don't know, it costs some money. And 00:51:32.619 --> 00:51:34.619 they were like, well, because it was missing 00:51:34.619 --> 00:51:36.719 the piece, they just sent me out another one. 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.519 And they really care about I've been on they 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.739 cared, but they sent me out the new one before 00:51:41.739 --> 00:51:44.860 I even had the chance to send the old one. And 00:51:44.860 --> 00:51:46.920 I was just getting I was thinking about that 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.679 experience. When you were talking about that, 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.969 and There, if you, you said that the number one 00:51:52.969 --> 00:51:57.010 best customer service. This is to be the number 00:51:57.010 --> 00:52:00.269 one customer service on the planet. Yeah. And 00:52:00.269 --> 00:52:03.570 so like they, that's their, that's their mission. 00:52:03.610 --> 00:52:05.010 That was a part of their mission or whatever. 00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:08.329 And I felt it like in my experience, you know, 00:52:08.369 --> 00:52:13.389 and I want to put that on a person. Like what's 00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:16.889 their mission and how do you have somebody feel 00:52:16.889 --> 00:52:19.730 that mission that you're up to? That's a really 00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:24.639 good one. You're moving from knowledge to embodiment. 00:52:25.099 --> 00:52:28.800 Like we it's in our DNA and that's a overused 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:33.780 word, but it's it's how we do life. And if like 00:52:33.780 --> 00:52:37.960 my my specific mission is to and purpose is to 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.619 help one billion people support and guide one 00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:43.559 billion people to live a life by design. So when 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.900 each interaction I have with someone, I'm constantly 00:52:46.900 --> 00:52:49.880 thinking, how do I make their world a little 00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.059 bit better? How do I challenge their paradigm 00:52:53.059 --> 00:52:57.260 so that they start creating a life from their 00:52:57.260 --> 00:52:59.460 perspective versus the perspective that they've 00:52:59.460 --> 00:53:02.000 inherited or been given? And if I can do that 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.320 effectively in each interaction, like how you 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.619 felt when Amazon, they sent you the package before 00:53:07.619 --> 00:53:10.440 you even sent it to them, like you feel it. So 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.719 for us, we have to embody it and embodying it 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.679 is our values. And that's where it's just going 00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.860 to alignment. So. If you're honest, if you're 00:53:20.860 --> 00:53:24.460 authentic, people gonna feel you. But if you're 00:53:24.460 --> 00:53:29.400 not, we can put on a show like my girlfriend's 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:30.980 brow girl asked her the other day, she was like, 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:34.500 is Prosper always this happy all the time, like 00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:36.780 on his social media? Or is that a front? She 00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:40.880 was like, no, that's him. Like, he's goofy. But 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.860 when he's not like that, that's when I know something's 00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:47.360 bad. And the biggest compliment I can get as 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.929 a leader is, that my my significant other feels 00:53:51.929 --> 00:53:55.909 that I am authentic, both on screen and off screen. 00:53:55.929 --> 00:53:59.849 Like that's who I am versus living a double life. 00:53:59.869 --> 00:54:02.989 And I'm appearing to be some way. And at home, 00:54:03.369 --> 00:54:07.110 I'm controlling and abusive like that. Like I 00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:09.670 I can't come out into the world one way and I'm 00:54:09.670 --> 00:54:13.510 living a different way. So I believe when we 00:54:13.510 --> 00:54:16.250 start embodying that, then people don't feel 00:54:16.250 --> 00:54:20.420 it. And then We just are who we say we are versus 00:54:20.420 --> 00:54:23.699 trying to project and we we attract the right 00:54:23.699 --> 00:54:27.579 tribe to I think this the problem I want to say 00:54:27.579 --> 00:54:31.400 probably I think that is the most Powerful thing 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.920 you can do for yourself or be for yourself is 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.860 be authentically who you are and People will 00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:42.019 get it or they won't People will be attracted 00:54:42.019 --> 00:54:45.320 to that or they won't and both ways are okay. 00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:50.070 Yeah and In that space, I know we kind of talked 00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:52.670 about it and we, I mean, throughout this conversation, 00:54:53.329 --> 00:54:57.909 you spoke it up, but I've never actually, actually 00:54:57.909 --> 00:55:01.269 asked you, what is the first step for someone 00:55:01.269 --> 00:55:05.429 who wants to find clarity? What is that first 00:55:05.429 --> 00:55:08.170 step? That's a great question. This acronym, 00:55:08.730 --> 00:55:13.389 O -Q -P, only quality people. Go find some quality 00:55:13.389 --> 00:55:16.519 people. That's the first step. And if you can't 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.619 find quality people around you that model clarity, 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.760 healthy confidence, find it in a book, find it 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.400 in a podcast like this. And that's the first 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.739 step because in order to move from confusion 00:55:31.739 --> 00:55:36.800 to clarity, it takes exposure and exposure leads 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:40.539 us to education. And then the third step would 00:55:40.539 --> 00:55:44.059 be embodiment. So it's meditating, it's getting 00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:47.739 grounded. So we expose ourselves to new content, 00:55:48.179 --> 00:55:51.400 places that can open our minds a little bit more. 00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.039 And then we educate ourselves by what's this 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.599 information. And then we start practicing embodiment 00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.980 of how can I get grounded? So even before finding 00:55:59.980 --> 00:56:02.340 quality people, I would say get grounded, get 00:56:02.340 --> 00:56:05.400 connected, move out of survival because it's 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.340 more of a physiological thing and a psychological 00:56:08.340 --> 00:56:11.610 thing. So get grounded. And then once you are 00:56:11.610 --> 00:56:14.170 in a grounded place and you're out of your amygdala 00:56:14.170 --> 00:56:16.349 survivor brain, and you're in your prefrontal 00:56:16.349 --> 00:56:19.530 cortex, then find a quality person that you can 00:56:19.530 --> 00:56:22.130 just learn from, cultivate that relationship, 00:56:22.469 --> 00:56:25.050 and then explore. So I had another question about 00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:29.489 that. You can get really scientific and quantum 00:56:29.489 --> 00:56:33.369 on what you just shared. And I was trying to 00:56:33.369 --> 00:56:37.449 keep it real, not trying to go to some levels 00:56:37.449 --> 00:56:40.710 where people can understand, identify, and use, 00:56:41.150 --> 00:56:46.389 use these tools for themselves. So maybe we have 00:56:46.389 --> 00:56:48.929 to go come back another time and talk about the 00:56:48.929 --> 00:56:53.309 quantum, quantum physics of it all. One last 00:56:53.309 --> 00:56:56.010 question, and you may not be able to summarize 00:56:56.010 --> 00:57:00.070 it really quickly, but breaking free from the 00:57:00.070 --> 00:57:03.829 past, and we kind of talked about it, but breaking 00:57:03.829 --> 00:57:06.329 free from the past really can set somebody free, 00:57:06.449 --> 00:57:09.869 right? What is that first step? look like or 00:57:09.869 --> 00:57:13.429 a couple of steps. Challenge your stories. So, 00:57:13.590 --> 00:57:15.469 whatever stories are showing up, challenge it 00:57:15.469 --> 00:57:18.190 and then explore your stories. I would I would 00:57:18.190 --> 00:57:23.090 say that's the first step. I love that because 00:57:23.090 --> 00:57:26.769 we as we talked about it earlier, we sometimes 00:57:26.769 --> 00:57:28.570 live in our stories and the stories that we live 00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:32.090 in aren't necessarily true. Yeah. It's kind of 00:57:32.090 --> 00:57:34.130 something that we made up in our minds, right? 00:57:34.869 --> 00:57:37.889 And we sometimes just continue to live in that. 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.199 And think that that's the way that life is. But 00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:44.420 then here comes the superstition of it all. You 00:57:44.420 --> 00:57:48.619 have clients that you work with that you really 00:57:48.619 --> 00:57:51.800 help get that clarity, break free from the past. 00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.699 I think that's powerful for people when they 00:57:55.699 --> 00:58:02.500 actually get the world of freedom, clarity, understanding 00:58:02.500 --> 00:58:07.010 their purpose or purposes. What are the type 00:58:07.010 --> 00:58:08.929 of clients that you work with? That's a great 00:58:08.929 --> 00:58:12.070 question. I work with all walks of life. So I 00:58:12.070 --> 00:58:17.829 work with a 23 year old who's trying to figure 00:58:17.829 --> 00:58:21.309 out what's their next step and diagnose with 00:58:21.309 --> 00:58:24.869 schizophrenia and multiple personalities and 00:58:24.869 --> 00:58:30.440 ADHD, helping getting them clarity to a 67 year 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.920 old retiree is just like, okay, what's in my 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:38.440 next season of life? So work with all sorts of 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.860 types of people in different seasons, individuals 00:58:40.860 --> 00:58:46.059 in transits, transitions. So it's very robust, 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:50.079 but the commonality between all these individuals 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:55.539 I get to work with from high influencing executive, 00:58:56.820 --> 00:59:00.019 making six figures to a school principal that 00:59:00.019 --> 00:59:04.260 I coach is these individuals is just like, I 00:59:04.260 --> 00:59:07.320 know what I've been doing isn't working. What 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.380 do I need to do that does work? And how can I 00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:12.920 be a part of the creation of that? So those are 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:14.480 the courageous people who are saying, you know, 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.880 I'm done living in this space. So those are the 00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.500 people I get to work with. And you help them 00:59:19.500 --> 00:59:23.920 live their life by their design, right? Yes. 00:59:24.260 --> 00:59:29.059 Yeah. So Before we leave, what's one thing on 00:59:29.059 --> 00:59:32.239 your mind, your heart that you want to share 00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.699 as your last words on this podcast this time? 00:59:36.260 --> 00:59:39.059 Every day make progress, every day find clarity. 00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:43.340 And I believe if we can do those two things, 00:59:43.579 --> 00:59:45.940 we can get through the hard days, we can get 00:59:45.940 --> 00:59:47.980 through the great days, but we're just getting 00:59:47.980 --> 00:59:50.159 through the day when we're just, we're moving 00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:53.440 forward. we get that aha moment is like when 00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.519 we first learn a new subject in class. Oh, that's 00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.420 awesome. So every day, make progress every day, 00:59:59.500 --> 01:00:01.960 find clarity. And I believe if we can do that, 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:06.099 we'll live a life by design. I love that. How 01:00:06.099 --> 01:00:09.340 can people get in touch with you? Yes. So my 01:00:09.340 --> 01:00:12.960 website, David B Prosper dot com. I'm on all 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.300 social media platforms, but the place I love 01:00:15.300 --> 01:00:19.559 playing in the most is Instagram at David B Prosper 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.780 and I would love to connect with you should you 01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:25.159 hear this message and it resonate. Hear your 01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:27.860 story, ask more questions. This side is a little 01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:30.820 different. I'm being interviewed, but I would 01:00:30.820 --> 01:00:32.440 love to connect with you on those platforms. 01:00:33.380 --> 01:00:37.199 Nice, nice. And you know, like every good podcast, 01:00:37.380 --> 01:00:40.800 they'll have their information connected. And 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:44.599 I want to say thank you. But before we go, there's 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.719 a last question that we asked for our watchers 01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:51.440 and our listeners, which is my basically heard 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.880 about David's journey here. And I want to know 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.860 what's one area of your life where you're ready 01:00:57.860 --> 01:01:02.139 to break free from the default mode and start 01:01:02.139 --> 01:01:04.920 living with more intention and living your life 01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.280 by design. One way what I would say connect with 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.280 David as you'd be like you'd like to be called 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:15.480 prosper, right? Yes. Yeah, nice. This has been 01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:19.159 a great conversation. Uh, the hour has gone by 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:23.039 so quick. Um, and I have so much, I had so many 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:24.719 more things I want to talk about, but I try to 01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.880 keep it, um, uh, succinct as much as possible, 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:33.480 but, um, you brought such value, uh, to the podcast 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.980 and I really appreciate it. And I thank you. 01:01:36.099 --> 01:01:38.559 Thank you for the opportunity and you'll keep 01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.289 me posted on the release. Absolutely. Yeah, it's 01:01:42.289 --> 01:01:46.690 actually all set. Yvonne, she's a master at dealing 01:01:46.690 --> 01:01:49.449 with all of that stuff. And we'll get all the 01:01:49.449 --> 01:01:51.650 information to you for sure. All right. Thanks 01:01:51.650 --> 01:01:53.929 so much, Mike. You got it. Thank you for being 01:01:53.929 --> 01:01:56.230 on the Thrive World journey, David. And as we 01:01:56.230 --> 01:01:58.849 always say, let's make thriving our new normal. 01:01:58.969 --> 01:01:59.969 And I'll talk to you next week.