What was your experience when you were in Divine
State? That's really cool. We call it the oneness
state because everything is one when they want
to talk about manifesting. any kind of manifestation,
you need three things. Frequency, duration, and
intensity of the stimulus. Those are the three
fundamentals. The main way to manifest anything,
folks, is to acquire grace. And all you got to
do to acquire grace is make a bond with your
divine. Because the ratio from the conscious
brain, where you design all your dreams to the
subconscious, ratio is a minimum of one to one
million. How does one... get in relationship
with the divine. It's a lot easier than you'll
ever imagine. How do you meet a good looking
woman? You walk up, say hello, and you start
to talk, right? So here's the way the divine
works, folks. There isn't any one divine. Those
days are long gone because you got 8 .2 billion
people on this planet. What's up, fam? Before
we get into this conversation, let me say this.
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And I want to see what's really, really important
to you. We are here. I mean, we've had a little
bit of a journey before we start the podcast,
but I really, really truly want to thank you,
Dr. Crulley for being here at the Thrabo journey.
Welcome. No, it must have been meant to be because
here we are. We are here and you are in Thailand.
So I wanted to make sure that I wanted to give
you respect and honor because you are in Thailand
is early morning there and you are here on the
podcast. So again, just thank you. It's an honor.
No problem. On our podcast, we try to open up
with intrinsic kind of question. And the question
I have for you, before we talk business and healing
and all the great things that makes up your life,
what is a defining moment in your life that completely
changed the way you see the world or saw the
world? God, there's been so many. Okay, I can
isolate one for you. In 1991, just prior to graduating
from the University of Windsor, because I had
gone back as an older man, to do my first degree,
first academic degree. And I was a professional
martial specialist at the time, and I was in
Dr. Neil Holland's class. It was a transpersonal
psychology class. Now, at the time that I entered
that class, which was about 45 minutes long,
my plan was to graduate in about a month from
that time, and I was going to move to Toronto,
Canada, because I'm a Canadian. I was in Windsor.
I was going to move to Toronto, Canada, where
I was going to pursue an education as a professional
deep tissue massage therapist specializing in
Paul St. John neuromuscular therapy. And of course,
I already had, I don't know how many thousands
and thousands of hours of Aikido and professional
Japanese martial craft under my belt, so to speak.
And I had it all mapped out. I knew where in
Toronto I was going to go and do all the different
things that I was going to do. And the class
started and Dr. Holland, he passed away a long
time ago, but he was a very famous assault therapist
in Canada. And he had us do an exercise where
you turn to the guy beside you and you ask the
question, tell me who you are. And the question
is to be repeated ad nauseum till the person
cannot answer anymore. The person asking the
question must show no facial expression or response
at all. It's got to be like an automated robot.
And no matter what comes out of your partner's
mouth, whatever he says, you just ask the question
again, tell me who you are. So I must have been,
there's a couple of things involved. One would
be my karmic readiness. And number two, it's
a gift from the divine. And with the moment the
kid asked me that question, tell me who you are,
I went directly into a vertical dive in consciousness
all the way down to the state of I am. What is
the state of I Am? That's your actual reality.
And that's when the Divine will separate your
senses just slightly, because all the senses
operate independently and not operating at the
same time at all. The only reason you think you're
hearing me and seeing me and everything at the
same time is a function of the human brain. So
that makes it easy for you to operate in the
world. But it's got nothing to do with reality
at all. So when they separate the senses, all
time stops. The self is eradicated. And whichever
sense you're engaging, that's all you are. And
it's a total interpenetration. So if you're listening,
there's only the listening. No listener, just
the listening. If you're looking, there's only
the looking. If you're tasting, only the tasting.
So what that means is when the self is removed,
all future is gone, all past is gone completely.
Therefore, there's no fear whatsoever. It's just
pure peace. Number two is there's no expenditure
of energy because you're not going anywhere and
your brain is not working. It's stopped. The
brain will only engage when it's required. So
like Eckhart Tolle, Eckhart Tolle is an example
of an enlightened person. So this was a state
I was put in, and it's a state of enlightenment.
There are lots of states and there's a countless
number, but it's at least ground level. And I
stayed in that state for the duration of that
whole class. So it was about 45 minutes long.
And fortunately for me, after the class ended,
Gradually, over the next couple of days, I came
down from that state. If I had stayed in that
state, it's not good because I'm not ready. And
instantly, all I knew was I had to leave Canada,
move to America, California. I didn't have any
idea why. I had no money whatsoever. No job.
And my buddy got me the $50 ,000 necessary to
get a visa. I left Canada and everything I knew
and everyone I knew with the intention of building
a dojo. Because I'm a real professional martial
artist. I'm not a guy that kicks watermelons
and runs around in pajamas. I'm a real martial
artist. And I carry three samurai lineages on
my shoulders at this time. I've been training
over 46 years. I have over 50 ,000 hours in Aikido
alone. So I want you to understand I'm the real
deal. I train the United States Special Forces
and all those kind of things. Well, anyway, this
is only 1991. I'm only 31 years old. The reason
I had to go to California, so I landed there
with a doggy, a change of clothes, a wooden sword,
a wooden staff, and a wooden knife. Didn't know
anybody or anything. had no money, nothing. That
was the defining moment because the reason I
was there was to meet the great sheikh, Maulana
Sheikh Muhammad Nazim al -Haqqani, 21st Grand
Master of the Naqshbandi Tariqati, was the Mufti
of Cyprus. He's passed away now. He was a real,
an actual sheikh. I had never heard of a sheikh,
didn't have any idea what the hell that was.
and I got invited to meet this great man. He
was visiting in San Francisco. And when I met
him, I loved him and he loved me. And whatever
he asks, the divine answers instantaneously.
So he asked that I would have my own school because
I had nothing. I had a bicycle sleeping on floors
and winter was coming. And he prayed for me to
have my own school. Within one week, a stranger
showed up gave me $40 ,000 cash. This is a true
story. And I built the Dosatsu Ken Dojo in Silicon
Valley, and it opened in 1994. So I arrived in
1991 when I graduated. 1994 I opened Dosatsu
Ken Dojo. That's where I trained the military.
I saw Silicon Valley execs. All the work I did
was there. So all that whole thing was the defining
moment. And it was because the divine put me
in that state. And I've been trying to get back
to that state ever since, still am. I'm not awakened
and I'm not enlightened, so don't misunderstand.
None of the other boys are either. All the guys
you see on television. The only guy I know that
is actually enlightened is Eckhart Tolle. None
of the other ones are. Enlightenment we call
mukti. That's a very big deal. That's where the
brain shifts from doing to be and Only the divine
can give you that did I answer your question
you did and I mean like I have all since cylinders
are like Sparking because there's so many ways
so many questions That can come from that that
this moment I'm trying to unpack it, but let
me let me do it the best way I know You talk
about I am. Let's start with the I am. You said
when you separate all the senses, it's not you
that's tasting. It's just taste, right? Or you're
not, you're not the listener. You're just listening.
So you were in this, this divine moment, I guess
you would call it, enlightened moment. What,
what was the, let me just start there because
you, you had a journey, but starting there, what
was your experience when you were in the divine
state. So that's really cool. We call it the
oneness state because everything is one. So a
long, long, long, long time ago, none of us know
when the one started the journey of becoming
the many. Now the journey is reversed, the many
going to the one. You may have heard of the singularity
or something. although they're talking about
AI. But when you're in that state, there is in
spirituality that we say, I am that, I am that,
because that's what you are. We have three qualities
to our actual existence. Existence, consciousness,
and the existence in consciousness exists in
the state of bliss. So existence, consciousness,
bliss. When I was in that state, if I looked
at the table where we were sitting, I was the
table and the table was me. There was no separation
at all. If I looked at the kid in front of me,
he was me and I was him. Exactly. No separation
at all. And in fact, I always remember I could
see inside his brain when it was my turn to ask
the question, And I'd say, tell me who you are.
And the kid would say something like, I'm so
-and -so's son. And whenever he answered a question
that he thought he was, I would see the little
spark jump between the synapses in his brain
from one neuron to the other. And he thought
that's who he was. It's got nothing to do with
him at all. But he thought that. and there'd
be this little spark. And then when I was in
the state, if there was a sound like his voice,
that was me. It's unbelievable. But it was so
peaceful, for a long time, I lost all fear of
death or anything at all. And then I made the
statement, and it's lucky for me that I came
out of it. Why? Well, because I am not awakened.
and I can't carry that kind of consciousness
and function properly. Because one thing that
I remember distinctly, after I came out of that
thing, regular life lost all relevance. I mean,
it's all silly nonsense, completely worthless.
But I can't function at 31 years old. I can't
go off into, you know, when you listen to Eckhart
Tolle, poor Eckhart Tolle became enlightened.
What happens when you're enlightened is The divine
goes into the brain and does surgery in the brain,
and only the divine can do it. There's nothing
you can do to become enlightened. All the kinds
of special meditation that they use, like with
Dr. Dispensable, nobody's ever going to become
enlightened, ever, period. Only the divine can
give you that. It's always been that way, it
always will be. What they do is they go in and
they change the brain. The areas in the brain
that are responsible for thinking about the future
or the past are disconnected. The brain just
doesn't function that way anymore. And the frontal
cortex really lights up very, very powerfully.
And they come into the present, and if they're
enlightened, they stay there. So what happened
with Eckhart Tolle, he was going to commit suicide.
If you read his book, The Power of Now, he was
going to commit suicide standing at his window.
he starts to pass out because they're knocking
him out. And he hears the voice say, is this
nothing? And he passes out. When he wakes up,
he's fully enlightened. He's remained fully enlightened
the rest of his life. But because he didn't have
any idea what happened to him, he sat on park
benches and traveled around for 10 years. It
took him 10 years to find out what happened.
And then he finally realized so he could sit
on a park bench for days on end, not even eat.
And he's just living in, in joy because enlightened
is state of being just like a tree. You look
at the tree, it's, it's being, it's not doing
something. When you have a self and you have
a mind, which is using us, the mind is using
us. We're not using the mind. Then the, we are
not in this. Oh, I think I just lost my host.
Are you there? I lost you for a second. Go ahead.
Go ahead. I had to fix my mic because it wasn't
picking up. Oh, okay. So these are very different
things and I think I might be losing your audience.
So I'll turn it back over to you. Give me some
guidance if I'm making sense or not. You're making
sense. So what I want to do because you have
taken like this conversation to a just a deeper
level to live. I hope that's okay. No, it's perfectly
okay. And thanks for guiding us there because
what I hope to accomplish is that anyone listening
and watching that wherever they are in their
state of being that they or if they're in the
lower vibration or wherever they may be, that
this conversation can help them in wherever they
are in their life. Just by having this conversation
like this, like I can, I can sense just, just,
just like there's no separation. That's what
I'm getting. And as you're sharing what you're
sharing, I'm like, wow, are we in the same room?
You know, that's what it's like. So I really
hope that anyone that's listening and watching,
they get to experience this conversation fully.
And I'm going to try to bring it back to them.
Like you're in the state of being and. When you're
in a state of being like this, that's enlightened
space, those who are not being able to experience
that because they're in the material world, they're
looking at all the things in the world that's
keeping them from really being able to elevate
their minds and their bodies and spirits. to
a place that you've gone to. What would you say
to them to start that journey and letting them
realize that all the material things are just
material, that we're bigger than that, we're
greater than that? Well, so first of all, the
divine doesn't make a separation between material
world and spiritual world. There's no separation.
You can do that if you want, but it's a big mistake.
It's not necessary. You could do like a renunciation
style. and go into a forest and live in a cave,
and you never get anywhere anyway, and then you
never had a chance to enjoy a nice margarita
in a beautiful place with your girl. Scott, it's
not that the material world is... There's nothing
wrong... with acquiring a wonderful life in the
material world. But the trick is, it's like your
introduction, it's the way the brain and the
way we're wired, the way we're designed, you
don't get, you're not experiencing, 99 % of the
people you see are not experiencing higher levels
of consciousness. You think so, And a lot of
the spiritual groups around the world, you'll
hear them say consciousness is rising. No, consciousness
isn't rising. Consciousness is rising in the
pockets they're looking at. The general population
doesn't have high consciousness at all. That's
how they're able to do the scandemic. That's
how they can blanket. That's why McDonald's makes
money. That's why everything is a homunculus,
because the consciousness is under the ground.
And it's not their fault. They're born into the
matrix and everything is all programmed. So we
are all biocomputers and the high self or the
enlightened part we've been discussing, that's
inside all of that. The trick, the trick is,
so Eckhart Tolle is an example of a fully enlightened
being. So he can still enjoy a nice home with
a beautiful car and enjoy all the things. The
trick is he experiences it fully and the mind
is not in between. With you and I, the mind is
in between. What does that mean? If you look
at anything, you have like 10 million sensory
receptors assigned just to the eyes alone. You
have approximately 11 million sensory receptors
with a human body and 10 million up to the eye.
So when you look at anything, the mind interjects.
So if I see a tree, it immediately makes a judgment
of the tree, what kind of tree, big tree, little
tree, green, red, orange tree, apple tree. is
the naming process. You look at a person, naming
process. Nice, small, fat, ugly, beautiful, sexy,
is the identity. And that is the, is a veil in
between. When I had gone into that state and
the senses were disconnected, when I'm looking
at him, I am him. See, you can, we think that
our eyes are seeing, like you and I are looking
at each other. No! It's not my eyes and then
the process of seeing and then you're there and
I'm here and there's a process called seeing
and you're there. No, no. There's no separation
at all. That's why I'm a distance healer in Thailand
and my clients are all over the world and as
soon as I see them I can change their brain and
their mind in real time right now because there's
no separation. And that's all been peer -reviewed,
all the science, all the mathematics, that's
all been accepted, written up by Nassim Haramin
of the Resonance Academy. It's all normal stuff,
but the trick is you can see, but can you see
seeing? You can hear, but can you hear hearing?
No, because it's one. If I look at the sky, the
sky and myself are exactly one. If we take away
me, the sky is gone. Sky is still there for you.
So I don't know if that makes sense to you, but
it's the first step is understanding it intellectually.
Experiencing it directly makes it real. But the
first step is understand it intellectually. So
you can, your brain at least is starting to look
for it. The reticular activating center of your
brain will start to look for it if it's aware
of it. Everything is awareness. If there's no
awareness, you'll never see any of these things
that I'm talking about. You won't see grace.
Once you see grace, you'll see more and more
and more of grace. But if you don't know to look
for grace, you'll think it's you, or you'll think
it's your ego. It's not. It never was. You know,
I'm so like into what you're saying. I'm and
perplexed at the same time. So let me just I'm
gonna Do it the way I understand. Please go ahead.
So when you're stating that there's no separation
or there's no difference between you and the
sky, right? When that shows up for someone, and
I know that most people probably would not even
be in this conversation unless the conversation
shows up for them, right? In that no separation
space, if there is space, It's a way, it's a
state of being, right? You talk about states,
it's a state of being. How does that state of
being help someone in their life when they're
needing to, a lot of people talk about manifestation
these days. How does that help someone in their
life when they're needing to bring change or
create change or manifest something in their
life that, that will help them to whatever. they're
trying to accomplish. Does that make sense? I
can answer that on so many different levels.
I know, I believe it. So I broke my back in half
when I was 27, weight training, and I sealed
my back in 12 weeks with meditation. And that
was verified by CAT scans at Providence Hospital
under Dr. Sidney Goldman a long time ago. 12
weeks. Because I'm I'm I'm almost 70. I'm just
shy of 70. So that's a long time ago. How did
I do that? So when they want to talk about manifesting,
so you think I want you to write down the words
in frequency, duration and intensity, because
all all manifestation, any kind of manifestation,
you need three things. Frequency, duration and
intensity. of the stimulus. Those are the three
fundamentals. So if I am going to try to do some
kind of manifest something from the field, from
the quantum field, I needed a minimum of 12 minutes
duration of highly intense focused state. So
I'm going to put myself in a state and that energetic
state, the energy of it, the qualifier is the
emotion attached no emotion no cigar so the emotion
is the is the energy state the duration is 12
minutes and then the frequency is how many days
in a row or how many years in a row how many
how many times per day you're going to do that
When I broke my back in half, they told me I
was finished. Nothing's going to finish me. And
nobody's going to tell me I'm going to be a cripple
or put Harrington rods in my back or any of that
other nonsense. So I had the ability, just like
when Joe Dispenza was run over by a truck. His
is different. Mine is clean brakes on both sides
of the called pedicles. They snapped in half.
And the whole spinal column shifted forward.
I don't know if you understand physiology, but
sacral promontory, think of it like a plateau.
So my whole spine shifted forward. And if it
goes too far, it'll fall down in front of my
groin. That was my issue. His issue was crushed
bone fragments into the spine. So what I did
was I used a meditation. I was still, I was living
at home. So I had food. I had the ability to
do the meditation. Meditation requires a hell
of a lot of energy and absolute consistency because
otherwise it's as useless as a fly in Alaska.
So you have the, I was doing about four hours
a day because I'm facing being a cripple, losing
my career as a martial artist. I'm 27 years old.
And so I got every reason and motivation to do
this. And I have, you know, I have all the pain
and all everything with me. So I'm, I got four
hours a day and all I did is not necessary to
rebuild anything or redesign anything in your
mind. You just take a photo, like a, an image
and you, so I would use an image of myself in
top shape in Aikido and I know how to do that
kinesthetically, what it feels like as I've done.
a lot of it. And for four hours every day, because
I've got nowhere to go, I'm laying on a floor
and I would just feel that, see it, feel it,
see it, feel it. What happens is because of the
frequency, the duration and the intensity, and
I'm a very intense man by nature, so I imprinted
a picture in my subconscious mind and it does
the rest. Why? subconscious mind has all the
power, and it's continuous with the unconscious
to the collective unconscious to the universe.
It'll draw any amount of power, any amount of
information necessary to make sure that you match
the picture. So when you listen to Tony Robbins,
you look at NLP and any of the new neuroscience
in LSA, your self -image and your self -identity
the subconscious job is to make sure you match
that. So that's your target when you want to
change something. So as soon as I change that
picture within 12 weeks, my subconscious completely
fixed my back and everything was all done. I
still had to spend the time to undo all of the
neurology and compensatory physiology because
your body starts to adapt all kinds of stuff
when you get hurt but the bone structure and
everything it just seal right up. Ladies check
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to manifest anything, folks, is to acquire grace.
And all you got to do to acquire grace is make
a bond with your divine. And that's my specialty.
So I'm a Bhakta. means I do everything literally
by the divine, literally. So the divine lives
right here with me. When I call my divine, the
divine is right there. And they'll do the physical
miracles to prove that, like eating the food
you put on a plate, it'll disappear. Or, you
know, the divine is, this is very available,
especially now, now. The divine is easier. to
make a relationship with them ever before because
we're in big trouble. The world is getting ready
to go down. So the divine is working overtime.
Once you ask the divine for grace, the divine
will do it for you. It's the divine that does
manifesting. You can't do a damn thing. You know
how much power you got? Everyone says you got
all the power. You got nothing. You're like a
little amoeba. on the surface of the Pacific
Ocean. Because anything that has to happen, the
entire universe is involved. So anyone that tells
you that they control that or whatever. I used
to get guys in California come into my dojo and
say, I'm a big manifest. I said, no kidding.
That's great. I said, see my hand? Manifest a
dot on my hand. Go ahead. Let me see your power.
And they used to run out of the door because
they can't do nothing. The divine is doing it.
The trick is you have a bond or you don't have
a bond. And then there is karma. Karma is an
entire universe of stuff. And then there is your
belief level. There's cognitive dissonance in
the subconscious. And then there's the quality.
If you're just doing a mental exercise, it will
not register. It's got to be at the feeling,
emotional level. There's so many qualifiers.
That's why you'll see people, they do what I
did for 30 years. I started with Tony Robbins
when I was 19. Nothing ever worked. I know every
word. I know all of them. The reason nothing
ever worked was I had cognitive dissonance. I
didn't know that. So as far as business went,
nothing ever worked until I got rid of that.
I didn't find out about cognitive dissonance
until I was nearly 40 years old. A great, great
master, Larry Haberski taught me. I apprenticed
under him for eight years and learned about cognitive
dissonance. If you don't know those, if you don't
know those things, you can go to rah, rah, you
can have a 16 PhD. It doesn't make any difference
because the ratio from the conscious brain, where
you design all your dreams, to the subconscious
ratio is a minimum of one to one million. Some
schools of thought now put it at one to two million.
What does that mean? I beg your pardon? What
does that mean? What does that mean? That's a
key question because it's the human dilemma.
Subconscious mind is this. Remember I told you
you're like a bio computer? So the subconscious
mind starts its personal, your personal subconscious
starts from conception goes through the womb,
the birthing process, the first six hours after
you're born, which are highly critical. We'll
call that the third program. There's ten programs
altogether. Fourth program starts after the first
six hours until you turn seven. At seven years
old, the fifth program begins, which is when
your frontal cortex of your brain activates.
You go from a theta brain wave, subconscious
brain wave pattern, to an alpha brainwave pattern
at the age of seven. The subconscious is recording
all that time to the age of seven, 40 million
bits of information per second, and none of it
belongs to you. Nothing. It's a survival mechanism
the way we're designed. So if you're a child
born in a hut on the Amazon Delta to a primitive
tribe, you need 10 quadrillion bits of information.
By the age of seven, it's about 10 quadra. You
need that software to be a player in the Amazon
Delta, which is very different from a kid born
in Manhattan, New York on the 16th floor of a
multi -million dollar condo. So the information
we acquire is specific for our survival. It acts
as a software. All of your values, all of the
definitions, all of your fears, everything is
developed there. And we know from neuroscience,
a minimum of 95 % of all your life, all of us,
is all completely driven by the subconscious
mind. Your conscious brain is only active 5 %
of the day. That's where the dissonance is. If
you picked up something at the age of three that
says you will never be a podcast host and you
got 16 PhDs and you attended Tony Robbins for
20 years and you know exactly how you're going
to design your show, you'll never be able to
do it because the cognitive dissonance, that
other thing from three years old is one million
times stronger than all your educated brains
ideas. So what I do in depth healing I can locate
exactly where the dissonance is and I can surgically
remove it with surgical precision. And then with
the dissonance gone, the programs gone, then
your subconscious will endorse your ideas and
when they're endorsed, nothing stops you. That's
the fundamental problem and that's why all the
powers that are, that be, that want to control
the world. They know, just like I know how to
fix, they know how to instill that. So everybody
is, when you're looking at folks nowadays, they're
programmed to the point of, it's just incredible.
And that's how you run the pandemic. That's how
you do everything. It's just because it's programmed.
Yeah. You had said that we are, we are programmed.
So the programs are really Would you say that
the programs are instituted based on our environment?
No, no, no. The program is based, the subconscious
is based on your environment so that you can
survive. The programs, everybody and anybody
that wants to program you, that's what they're
doing. And nowadays, unfortunately with AI, which
I'm not in any way, shape or form happy about,
That was the single dumbest thing. And that's
the end of, that'll be the end of everything,
because the caveat to that, and if you listen
to all of the founders of AI, like Godfrey Hinton
and so forth, the caveat to that, that is the
proof that it'd be the end of all of humanity,
is all of the major nations have agreed that
there are no limitations whatsoever on the development
of autonomous combat robots. Oh, really? No limitations
whatsoever. Autonomous combat robots. But let's
not go down that rabbit hole because I'll get
myself. Well, let's we're talking about a line.
Let's get realigned with what we're talking about.
Okay. And you you you had mentioned depth depth
healing, right? Yes. In depth healing, what is
your experience of that? Like how do people show
up and then how do they leave? Because I just
want to give a world of it, like people that's
listening that may have depth healing, for them
to know what it looks like in their life and
why they may really benefit from it. Yeah. Well,
anybody that comes to depth healing for me will
benefit always. The only way they can't is if
they reject it and don't want it. Okay? Just
like Jesus was a very powerful great avatar that
came representing God and the divine. And everybody
loved him except the Romans and they killed him.
So, can Jesus change the minds of the Romans?
Yes. But the Romans don't want it, so he doesn't
intervene. And that's the way that works. But
if you come to depth healing, all you have to
do is want to grow in your consciousness, heal
your body or change your financial status. Depth
healing is called depth healing. And I've studied
over 54 years so that whatever you come with,
it's equipped to deal with it. Period. If it's
something that is over my head, I have my direct
empowerment with the divine, and the divine will
handle it for you. So depth healing is a marriage
of applied quantum physics, which is the science
part, with mysticism, and I'm the real deal.
So I have empowerment through Tibet, I have empowerment
through India, and I have empowerment through
Japan. So when I tell you that, It's a real deal.
So let's say you're an entrepreneur and you have
a financial ceiling. You've never been able to
get past a certain amount of money. You come
to see me, I'll find out why you have a financial
ceiling and we will remove it. If you have a
broken heart and you can't get over the guy or
the lady, you come to me and I will remove the
broken heart. If you have post -traumatic stress
syndrome, I will remove it. If you, it doesn't
make any difference what it is. That's what depth
healing is. And I have the, you know, there have
been a few thousand people come through my doors.
And if you read my testimonials and that, you'll
see that this is the real deal. See, the trick
is it's all done by frequencies. And the greatest
skill I have is I'm not like a psychic or somebody.
I have surgical precision. So I go. you tell
me what your issues are and we will go into the
subconscious strata and find out why the problem
is there. There will be a fundamental initial
download somewhere in the subconscious may go
all the way back to the first trimester where
the foundation of that fear or that belief or
that problem first initiated. I go back, I start
there. I will reduce it, including all of its
entanglements relative to what will show up in
your consciousness at that time. I erase it.
When I'm doing that, that's real time. And I
go up to the very next download specific to that
exact question or issue. I disassemble it and
remove it. And we go all the way up the scale
till you turn seven or past seven. when the frontal
cortex activates. Once I've done that, the foundation
in the subconscious that makes the cognitive
dissonance is gone. Now we come up to you in
present time and we ask the question, is right
now in my consciousness on any level, is there
an active program that is either creating or
sustaining this fear or this problem or this
whatever Now, we find it, we disassemble it,
and we shut it off. Now, every single time I'm
doing that, I'm using two kinds of frequencies.
Destructive interference waves, which eliminate
the problem, and constructive interference waves,
which are building your system up, raising your
consciousness. Throughout the whole process,
your brain is reorganizing, subconscious is reorganizing.
That changes your perception. Your perception
changes your vibration. And then by the law of
resonance, everything changes. That is how depth
healing works in a nutshell. Okay, I like that.
When you talk about laws, there's a lot of universal
laws, right? The law of assumption. Lots of them.
Lots of laws. We know a few of them. I know a
couple. I know a couple. I'm working on it myself.
But what would you say to the skeptic? skeptics
out there that would say that this is something
I couldn't care less. It seems like a guy that
says a guy says to me, I don't I don't let's
see how's a simple way to say this without getting
sarcastic. I heal I've healed and I heal thousands
of people every year. I don't give a damn if
you believe it or you don't believe it. That's
your problem. All the rest of them are already
better. If somebody says you can't fight crude.
There's a whole trail of guys all the way back
through the years I beat the hell out of them.
Oh, I can fight. It doesn't make any difference
to me. Somebody says, I believe the moon is made
out of cheese. Good, knock yourself out. You
know, I don't care about that because I do what
I do. And any other energy or distance healers,
they do what they do. The divine is the divine.
Hundreds of thousands, millions of people now
have unbelievable personal relationships with
their divine that would just blow your mind to
smithereens. It's incredible. It's a whole different
world, right? If you have that relationship with
the divine. I'll tell you, when I became a Sufi
back in the 1990s, I had my first experience
of what that means by a whole different world.
Do you know what the reticular activating center
of the brain is? Reticular acting, no. Okay,
so your brain, reticular activating center in
the brain will see what it looks for, and if
it doesn't look for it, it won't see it, and
it can't see it. Like the fungal cortex, for
instance, it only receives 40, 40, four zero
bits of information a second. Some schools say
40 million bits are coming every second. Some
are like four billion bits are coming up, but
only 40 get through. And they're basically registering
the environment, your body and time. Now, the
only thing they're going to register or filter
is what they're looking for. So that's what,
so reticular activating center, they'll often
teach you like this. They'll say, if you count,
if you count how many red cars you see today,
and I'll buy you a steak dinner. So the motivation
is the steak dinner. And then the brain will
start to search for red cars. It won't notice
any black cars. It'll only notice red cars. So
when I became a Sufi and I met that great Shaykh,
I entered for the first time a mystic's world.
Prior to that, I had always been interested in
the mystic's world, but I had never seen anything.
I'd never experienced mystic stuff, like looks
like something out of a Harry Potter movie. But
once I entered that, that veil that keeps me,
that makes that world invisible to me, was removed.
And all of a sudden, all this stuff was there
and I never saw it before. And then when I left
them in 1996, that veil came back as far as their
stuff went. So that's why consciousness is so
important. See, consciousness, everything is
in stratus. So if you, if we want like, let's
say we have a high rise and it's 17 floors high.
When you're on the ground floor and you look
out the window, you can see the hedge, big nice
hedge, but you can't see over it. You go up one
floor, you can see over the hedge, but you can't
see past that house on the other side. And each
each floor view is different. If you can get
up, you know, 200 stories high, you go to that
area that I said where there's no separation
between you and anything. So there's only one.
But when you go down to the ground floor, all
you see is separation. Now there's tricks to
that. You can change your consciousness like
I did when I moved to Thailand. So let's take
wealth consciousness. What is wealth consciousness?
It'll completely change your whole world by the
law of resonance. All it means is you start to
consciously notice and register what you have.
You do not notice what you don't have. And you
change your languaging. So instead of saying,
I can't afford that, you can say something like,
I could afford it, but I choose not to right
now. If you open up the fridge and you're out
of beer, you don't say, I don't have any beer.
You say, I'll go down and get some beer. You're
always empowering yourself that you can, you
have, and then anything you have, you consider
it as an asset. So it has value. What happens
is the way the brain works, you need a three
to one ratio to keep the frontal cortex engaged
and the amygdala shut off. So the amygdala, while
it was designed to keep us alive, it's like a
little It's a little tiny organ, folks, and what
it's designed to do is notice danger and anything
that's negative. That's how they program you
on social media now. That's why all the movies
are garbage. They love to make real fancy movies
that shock you, shock you, shock you, because
the amygdala lights up every time. As soon as
it lights up, it drops cortisol. Cortisol is
a stress hormone and it's more addictive than
cocaine. That's a clinical fact. So the more
they can light up the amygdala, so and so, 16
women just got raped yesterday. So and so just
dropped a bomb. And if you watch that crap, you're
lighting up the amygdala, lighting up. Now every
time it lights up, the blood moves away from
the frontal cortex where you think, and it goes
to the primitive parts of your brain. you become
more unconscious. So to keep this lit up and
the amygdala quiet, you need a three to one ratio.
What do I mean? Anytime you get a piece of bad
news, like a bill comes in, car breaks, something
that happened, you need to be able to consciously,
notice the word consciously, reframe your attention
to a minimum of three things. that you have,
that make you happy, that make you feel secure,
that are working. You have to be able to reframe.
Three to one. When you see these guys like Tony
Robbins, you see Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett,
people like that. They have what we call positivity
quotient, like 10 to one, nine, eight to one.
So when something hits that's a stressor, it
doesn't touch them. What does that mean? Well,
if the frontal cortex, when it's lit up, is connected
to motivation centers in your brain, and by the
law of resonance, your vibration stays up. If
your vibration stays up, the universe brings
you more. If your vibration goes down, you look
at the cortisol, cortisol is dropping, your frequency
goes down, and the universe gives you more. See,
the universe only has one word. When I say universe,
I don't mean the divine. Divine is a population
that lives in the universe. The universe only
has one word, OK. That's all. And it affirms
OK in real time, all the time. That's why I told
you in the beginning of this conversation, frequency,
duration, and intensity. You have to try to develop
sustained states. Now that's on the microcosm.
The thing that runs the universe and runs the
world is Morphic Fields. Morphic Fields is a
different conversation, and that means collectives.
Yeah, the collective, yeah. I mean, that's why
I call it depth healing. See, it's deep. There's
a lot. It goes to the depths. There's so much.
I mean, there's so much like within a world,
there's another world in this conversation. That's
right. it can't be summed up in the time that
we have. So, but I do want to ask for anyone
that's interested, like when you talk about the
divine, how does one get in relationship with
the divine? It's a lot easier than you'll ever
imagine. How do you meet a good looking woman?
You walk up, say hello, and you start to talk,
right? So here's the way the divine works, folks.
There isn't any one divine. Those days are long
gone. because you got 8 .2 billion people on
this planet. And the one guy over here from South
America, he doesn't give a damn about just Jesus
or Buddha or Christian or anything like that.
So the divine, think of the divine just like
your immune system. Your immune system is made
up of undifferentiated antibodies. or undifferentiated
antibodies means, it's just like a blob. And
when a virus or something enters you, the blob
will conform and reshape to handle that virus.
Now think of the divine as a giant ball of light.
We call it the great compassionate light. And
it's actually a population, but... It's just,
just think of it like a big ball of light, like
looking at the sun. You decide who or how you
want your relationship to the divine. So if you
love Jesus, good. So you, you make your relationship
with Jesus and you tell the divine, I want to
talk to Jesus. I want to know Jesus. I want Jesus
to live with me in my home and I'm going to talk.
I'm going to relate everything to Jesus. Now,
and the Divine will do that. If you want the
Divine to be a butterfly, it'll come as a butterfly.
The Divine does not care. What the Divine wants
to do is make a relationship that makes you comfortable
so that it can be with you, help you, guide you,
protect you, talk to you, and it'll do that.
So your first job is decide how you want to talk
to the Divine. Now to be perfectly frank with
you, the Divine recommends picking someone like
your mom or dad or your aunt or uncle or somebody
that you love that's close so that you relate
to them as if that's them because it's real easy
for the Divine to do that and it's also easy
for you. I've never met Jesus, so I don't know
how to make a relationship with Jesus, so I made
my divine, like my grandpa and my grandma. The
female part, the divine feminine, handles the
world. The divine masculine handles the consciousness.
That's the way that the universe is designed.
And so I always pick two. But you pick it according
to what you want, and then... All you do is talk.
You just talk. Just like you go up to meet a
lady, what do you do? You don't walk up and make
faces at her, you talk to her. You talk. So you
tell the Divine, it doesn't matter what you want
to tell him. When you want the Divine to do something
for you, like let's say you want to prove, you
want proof that it's here. That you're not just
an idiot. talking to something in the middle
of a room. So you tell the Divine, I want you
to give me a sign that you're here, that you're
listening to me and make it very obvious to me
that it's you. I don't want it to look like a
circumstance. I want to know it's you. And it
will. You just, you have to say it with real
feeling and you have to be sincere. Can't just
be in a mental exercise. And then folks, When
you want the Divine to do something, like solve
a problem or something, always give the Divine
the solution. That's the manifesting part. You
want a prayer answered, you give it a solution.
And the other caveat is, the more sacredness
you start to adopt to make your relationship,
the better. The Divine likes sacredness. Respect.
being clean, organizing the vastu. The vastu
means you're surround, everything all dirty or
cluttered. Very difficult to make a relationship.
And then remember the universe is always watching.
So your state of mind and what you believe, all
the universe will say is okay. The divine will
answer the prayers. The divine will actually
be there with you. The divine actually resides
in you right now anyway. It's in your heart.
Heart is the key. Heart is everything. Brain
is only an instrument. It's actually an antenna
array. It's just an antenna array. There is no
mind in a person. Mind is a field. Very, very,
very ancient. And you tie into that. We could
talk for hours, I promise you. We could talk
for hours. Just on that part alone where the
mind is an antenna, The things that, the thoughts
that we're having are not from necessarily here,
right? No, no, no, not at all. They're flowing
in and out. They flow in here and they come out
on the same level at the back of the head. And
it's just an antenna array. That's why all meditation
methods throughout time and across cultures tell
you the same thing. Sit down, be quiet and watch
thoughts come and go. It's because they're coming
and going. And the ones that come and go depend
on your frequency, your resonance. So Einstein's
frequency was attuned for high math. And the
guy that becomes a mechanic in Poland, he doesn't
pick up that frequency. He picks up another frequency.
Make sense? Yeah, it makes all the systems work
out. And you can change that. I change all of
that for you with depth healing. Upgrade, upgrade,
upgrade. Yeah, let me upgrade you, as Beyoncé
says. This has been fascinating. From how we
first started, before the conversation and before
we got into the studio, to now, I really feel
that this was meant to happen and occur, if not
for anybody else, for me. I really like you.
I hope you have me back because I really enjoy
you a lot. I was going to say that we have to
have you back. We'll talk. See, I'll talk to
Yvonne about, you know, how we're going to do
that because I truly want to have Yvonne because
there's so much, so much, like I said, it's world
within worlds from the conversation that we're
having. And we're not even touching the, just
not even skimming the top of the conversation.
You know, I think we go much deeper and we can
make - You know what we can probably do? Now
that you, because I tend to go all over the place
and as much as people try to coach me, everything
gets entangled for me. But now that you had a
taste of this, you can probably decide a specific
area you want or a couple of areas and then keep
me on track and I'll try to do a good job for
you. Well, you know what, we'll try that. And
then I'm okay with how it's going because at
the end of it, It really speaks to what the what
the conversation or the this episode is about
anyway, so It's just anybody that's searching
for that that next level. I guess you can't call
it next level unconscious healing they'll find
this conversation and and They'll resonate with
everything that you said Because just just through
the conversation. There's I would say maybe the
divine really speaking to people's energies and
hearts and souls. And this conversation will
make a difference for the people that will be
watching and listening. So we'll definitely have
you on again. I'd love to. And we'll just go
forward again. You know what I mean? Like, just
go forward. Sure. But you do the healing, the
depth healing, and you do it from a distance.
And so how would you, would you just like to
share how people could get in touch with you,
even though we'll have your information? in the
show notes? Well, the thing I'd love them to
know is I do a bunch of different things, right?
So I will mentor people if they would like. I
love to mentor. I do healing on just about any
level whatsoever. Doesn't matter what area of
life you need healing in. And then I do two collectives
a month, and the collectives are designed So
that it's really affordable. It's only $50, but
they work in, they work in serial order. I do
two per month and they're collectives. So I'm
using morphic field physics for that. So it's
a, we didn't discuss that, but I, you know, morphic
field physics is, is my real forte. And I'm able
to do that for, I like, for instance, I work
with professional sport. I tie into the team
in real time during the game and the coach tells
me what's going on and if they're down or something,
I can lift them up. I can change the whole team
in real time. That's called Morphic Field Physics.
I do two collectives per month and the objective
being by the end of the year, anyone that attended
those they end that year they're a different
person. And I told you there's 10 quadrillion
bits of information in a person's subconscious
by the age of seven. When I have a hundred people,
that's 10 quadrillion times a hundred for the
same question. So it's very powerful. Collectives
are a horizontal healing. Privates are a vertical
dive. And then once a month, I do a free full
moon ceremony, a full moon ceremony. I'm not
doing any healing. I call my empowerments in
with the divine. People come on. They have prior
to that event, they create two prayers formally
in writing. The first prayer is private for them.
Second prayer is collective for the world. And
then I bring I bring them on. I tie in the divine.
It's amplified by the full moon. The collective
itself generates enormous power like Mahurta
on January 15, 2024. I had 18 ,000 people apply.
And I had no advertising. Divine brought those
people. So it's amplified by the full moon. It's
tied in directly to God, and it'll be their personal
relationship with their God each time. And then
those prayers will be answered by the Divine,
period. The only thing we don't know is when
and exactly how. So what they have to do, they
keep those prayers. They never throw it away.
And so I do that as a service. And then the collectives
and then privates, they just schedule with me
and I take care of them. And we'll end it there.
Thank you, Dr. Crulley. You're welcome. Again,
thanks for the... pushing through and making
sure that we had this conversation. You do. You
guys phone me. Otherwise, I was moving on. I
wasn't letting this go. I wasn't letting this
go. I was like, as soon as I saw walking, I can
I can contact them. What's up? There it goes.
Let's do it. Yeah. So thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
What's up was was our saving grace. So thank
you. Yeah. And This has been a different conversation
for us on the podcast and I really appreciate
it. So again, Dr. Cruelly, thank you so much.
And as we always say, let's make thriving our
new normal. Thank you very much. You got it.
Y 'all take care.