WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:02.890 Hey, family, L. Michael here. You know, every 00:00:02.890 --> 00:00:06.349 so often, life gives you a wake -up call, one 00:00:06.349 --> 00:00:09.109 that makes you stop and really look at yourself. 00:00:09.769 --> 00:00:12.689 There's a moment when you realize the applause 00:00:12.689 --> 00:00:15.730 you've been chasing was never designed to make 00:00:15.730 --> 00:00:18.410 you feel whole. So we stack achievements like 00:00:18.410 --> 00:00:21.769 armor, right? The wins, titles, followers, likes, 00:00:22.070 --> 00:00:24.789 believing they'll protect us from the feeling 00:00:24.789 --> 00:00:29.469 of not enough. But then life holds up a mirror. 00:00:29.530 --> 00:00:33.090 And what you see staring back at you isn't your 00:00:33.090 --> 00:00:35.909 resume or titles. It's your soul asking, who 00:00:35.909 --> 00:00:39.149 am I without all this noise? So Cristiano Cola 00:00:39.149 --> 00:00:41.329 looked into that mirror, and instead of running, 00:00:41.810 --> 00:00:44.670 he listened. He walked away from the identity 00:00:44.670 --> 00:00:46.850 that wants to find him and stepped into something 00:00:46.850 --> 00:00:49.929 raw, something real. Now, this isn't a conversation 00:00:49.929 --> 00:00:53.549 about perfection. It's a conversation about breaking 00:00:53.549 --> 00:00:57.920 the illusion, letting go of who you thought you 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.979 had to be, and discovering the truth you can 00:01:00.979 --> 00:01:04.120 finally live with. Now here's a glimpse of what 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:06.640 he discovered. I was going to say you say restrictive 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:09.180 for your spiritual growth. What did that look 00:01:09.180 --> 00:01:13.439 like? Well, I was middle 2024. I was struggling. 00:01:13.700 --> 00:01:18.219 I was struggling emotionally. Yeah, I felt restricted, 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:21.760 and I was not myself. I was falling back into 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.359 old ways of thinking. And I was doing therapy. 00:01:25.769 --> 00:01:29.250 and it didn't work for me because I would talk 00:01:29.250 --> 00:01:32.090 about stuff but I wouldn't actually have the 00:01:32.090 --> 00:01:36.549 time to process. So I eventually looked into 00:01:36.549 --> 00:01:41.010 psychedelics and specifically ayahuasca because 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:46.849 after research I had a feeling that's what I 00:01:46.849 --> 00:01:50.870 needed to get to the core of my traumas, to get 00:01:50.870 --> 00:01:53.879 to the core of what I was struggling with. So 00:01:53.879 --> 00:02:00.099 if you're a person who experiences lucid dreams, 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.420 vivid dreams, I feel that those are powerful 00:02:05.420 --> 00:02:12.699 insights to be taken care of when we are awake 00:02:12.699 --> 00:02:16.560 again the next day. At least to give ourselves 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:20.699 the time to reflect on those experiences. Sometimes 00:02:20.699 --> 00:02:23.400 it takes losing everything we thought made us 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:27.000 whole to discover what really matters. Cristiano 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.800 Cola's journey is one of courage, surrender, 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.000 and truth. From chasing physical perfection to 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.919 being cracked open in the jungles of Peru, he 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.099 learned that healing doesn't come from performance, 00:02:38.580 --> 00:02:41.680 it comes from presence. In this conversation, 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.439 we explore what happens when you stop chasing 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:48.080 validation and start remembering who you really 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.199 are. This is why I stopped chasing validation 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:59.979 with Cristiano Cola. We are here in Cristian 00:02:59.979 --> 00:03:03.460 Cola. I want to invite you and welcome you to 00:03:03.460 --> 00:03:07.460 the Thrago journey. How are you doing? I'm doing 00:03:07.460 --> 00:03:09.319 well. Thank you so much for having me. It's a 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:11.900 pleasure. Yes, we've been trying to do this for 00:03:11.900 --> 00:03:15.840 some time now and we're here and And I'm excited 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.860 to have a conversation with you because you are 00:03:18.860 --> 00:03:23.819 a new generation kind of guy. You've taken up 00:03:23.819 --> 00:03:30.159 your life, really, and changed it around to really 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.479 fit your soul and your spirit. And I admire that. 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:36.319 A lot of people want to do that, but they don't, 00:03:36.340 --> 00:03:40.580 and you did. And before we get into the conversation, 00:03:41.219 --> 00:03:45.979 I typically ask, intrinsic kind of question. 00:03:46.740 --> 00:03:49.300 And I know you started this journey some time 00:03:49.300 --> 00:03:52.719 ago. So what's the most important truth that 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.539 you live by today that you didn't fully understand 00:03:56.539 --> 00:04:02.099 about your life five years ago? I would say to 00:04:02.099 --> 00:04:05.020 show up in life authentically at least trying 00:04:05.020 --> 00:04:10.259 to do my best not to compromise myself and the 00:04:10.259 --> 00:04:14.770 longings of my soul for someone else's Um, satisfaction, 00:04:14.810 --> 00:04:18.970 um, it's probably something I, I didn't fully 00:04:18.970 --> 00:04:23.149 understand five years ago, but now I'm, I think 00:04:23.149 --> 00:04:27.910 I'm embodying, um, or at least I am on my path 00:04:27.910 --> 00:04:33.769 to, to become that person. You use the word embodying 00:04:33.769 --> 00:04:36.110 and that's a, that's a really powerful word and 00:04:36.110 --> 00:04:39.329 we'll get back to that. But I want to just kind 00:04:39.329 --> 00:04:42.829 of build up to who you are today and you're. 00:04:43.050 --> 00:04:47.149 Your home country is Italy, but are you still 00:04:47.149 --> 00:04:51.129 in Australia right now? No, I'm back in Italy. 00:04:51.170 --> 00:04:54.509 So I came back this year. So I lived in Australia 00:04:54.509 --> 00:04:59.870 from 2018 to January, 2025. So almost seven years. 00:05:00.370 --> 00:05:04.930 Okay. Now you, you were in health, you were a 00:05:04.930 --> 00:05:07.529 semi -pro football player and you were a fitness 00:05:07.529 --> 00:05:13.019 coach, right? Talk about that life. um and who 00:05:13.019 --> 00:05:16.000 you were in that in that period of your life 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:21.279 well i i grew up around football so i i was football 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.980 from the age of five to to 24 that's all i knew 00:05:24.980 --> 00:05:29.540 my my whole identity was built around football 00:05:29.540 --> 00:05:34.420 so i consider myself a football player even before 00:05:34.420 --> 00:05:37.860 a human being sometimes uh or perhaps that was 00:05:37.860 --> 00:05:40.860 the culture at least uh the home i grew up in 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.040 Um, and it was, it was tough for me to, to relate 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:49.620 to people, um, to relate to human beings, you 00:05:49.620 --> 00:05:53.160 know, under different context or circumstances. 00:05:53.699 --> 00:05:57.259 So, um, I would be really shy away from the football 00:05:57.259 --> 00:06:00.980 environment. So I was a completely different 00:06:00.980 --> 00:06:04.500 person from, from playing, from being on the 00:06:04.500 --> 00:06:08.879 pitch, um, or being outside of it. And this dynamic 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:14.519 of playing. later in my life when I delved into 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.839 personal training in the fitness industry. And 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:24.740 being around fitness, professional sports from 00:06:24.740 --> 00:06:31.420 a young age, it definitely shaped how I interact 00:06:31.420 --> 00:06:38.439 with people, how I show up in life. At some point 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:40.459 it took a toll on me because I didn't know who 00:06:40.459 --> 00:06:45.600 I was away from that. So I would struggle, you 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.819 know, romantic context or on a personal level, 00:06:50.100 --> 00:06:54.259 professional level as well. And I didn't fully 00:06:54.259 --> 00:06:57.600 understand who I was and I was in a way judging 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:02.360 myself for the lack of experiences I had away 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.170 from the professional environment. And that made 00:07:06.170 --> 00:07:10.870 me feel sometimes behind. So I compare myself 00:07:10.870 --> 00:07:14.410 to people that I perceived them I had in life 00:07:14.410 --> 00:07:19.589 and I felt behind. So in a way, it showed me 00:07:19.589 --> 00:07:26.269 a part of myself, my potential in a way, but 00:07:26.269 --> 00:07:32.569 in another way, it took away from me as well. 00:07:33.310 --> 00:07:38.759 Yeah. As you were sharing that, I remember my 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.920 years as well. For people that are listening 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.740 and watching, when we talk about football, we're 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:51.079 talking about American soccer. Just so that we 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.540 bring context to folk. But I ran track and field 00:07:56.540 --> 00:08:02.250 for college and somewhat going to training myself 00:08:02.250 --> 00:08:06.250 to go to the Olympics and I do remember when 00:08:06.250 --> 00:08:08.850 you said that like I my identity was wrapped 00:08:08.850 --> 00:08:14.189 up in in my sport and outside of that like I 00:08:14.189 --> 00:08:15.910 didn't really know who I was either and then 00:08:15.910 --> 00:08:18.910 when I lost that or I wasn't competing anymore 00:08:18.910 --> 00:08:22.870 I too had an identity crisis but I didn't even 00:08:22.870 --> 00:08:25.470 know there was it was a crisis or an issue. I 00:08:25.470 --> 00:08:27.470 just didn't know who I was outside of what I 00:08:27.470 --> 00:08:31.379 did for 20 years, you know, that was my identity. 00:08:32.139 --> 00:08:35.379 And for you, that was your identity, but things 00:08:35.379 --> 00:08:39.480 shifted for you. When did things shift for you 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.820 outside of the norm that you had for yourself? 00:08:44.460 --> 00:08:48.139 Yeah, great question. When I decided to emigrate 00:08:48.139 --> 00:08:52.559 to Australia in 2018, that was the first conscious 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:58.059 shift I made. It was in a way an act of rebellion 00:08:58.059 --> 00:09:02.179 against my own self because I was so soaked in 00:09:02.179 --> 00:09:06.860 this identity of football player that I didn't 00:09:06.860 --> 00:09:09.799 want that anymore. I wanted to travel the world. 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.299 I wanted to experience other cultures. I wanted 00:09:13.299 --> 00:09:19.480 to see what was out there for me to explore other 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:24.399 gifted part of myself, not just football. When 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.220 I started to travel, that was the first time 00:09:27.220 --> 00:09:31.179 I opened up to the flow of life, to the opportunities 00:09:31.179 --> 00:09:35.779 of life away from football. Meeting new people 00:09:35.779 --> 00:09:38.279 on a daily base and learning their story and 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:43.399 sharing things. Being in another country itself, 00:09:43.779 --> 00:09:48.019 you know, away from my Italian background. And 00:09:48.019 --> 00:09:52.899 I made a conscious decision not to get myself 00:09:52.899 --> 00:09:58.240 back. to football whenever I feel discomfort, 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:03.200 whenever I needed that safe place to go, I made 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.360 a conscious decision not to go back to football 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:10.139 because I knew that if I did, I was going to 00:10:10.139 --> 00:10:13.419 deny all those things that I just mentioned to 00:10:13.419 --> 00:10:17.779 myself and the opportunities to evolve as a human 00:10:17.779 --> 00:10:25.120 being. what that was for you, because a lot of 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.779 people fall into the trap when you're in the 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:30.700 world of the unknown. It's like, I get to get 00:10:30.700 --> 00:10:32.539 back to what's comfortable because I know that 00:10:32.539 --> 00:10:35.620 world, right? So I'm now in the world of unknown, 00:10:35.899 --> 00:10:38.759 what do I do? And you brought the world out, 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:42.200 the word evolve. And so you were comfortable 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:45.600 in evolving, you're comfortable with being uncomfortable, 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.320 right? Is that would it be a fact? Yeah, that's 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.740 facts. Well, it wasn't easy all the time. But 00:10:54.740 --> 00:10:57.679 yeah, I just made sure to remind myself that 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.899 was just temporary and that I took a decision 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:05.600 for a reason. And it was a constant reminder 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:10.980 not to go back to, as you said, what felt comfortable 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:17.360 and keep pushing into the unknown and trusting 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:21.990 and surrendering to the... to all the gifts of 00:11:21.990 --> 00:11:24.929 the universe, to the unlimited possibilities 00:11:24.929 --> 00:11:28.850 that were waiting for me. And that's what I did. 00:11:29.210 --> 00:11:32.470 But it wasn't easy. No, it's never easy. But 00:11:32.470 --> 00:11:37.090 I think that's what challenges us in evolving 00:11:37.090 --> 00:11:41.029 is that when we are uncomfortable and okay with 00:11:41.029 --> 00:11:43.470 being uncomfortable, there's a shift that happens. 00:11:43.690 --> 00:11:47.769 And with you, there was a shift that that I assume 00:11:47.769 --> 00:11:51.950 that happened with you. And in that world of 00:11:51.950 --> 00:11:56.330 the unknown and being uncomfortable, what was 00:11:56.330 --> 00:11:58.549 like the thing that showed up for you and said, 00:11:58.730 --> 00:12:02.250 this is what I want for the duration of my life? 00:12:05.070 --> 00:12:08.710 I don't think I fully get the question. So in 00:12:08.710 --> 00:12:13.549 your evolution, being in the world of the unknown, 00:12:14.149 --> 00:12:17.500 being uncomfortable, What was that thing that 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:20.240 kept you saying, I'm going to continue to evolve 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:25.580 and not go back to what's comfortable? Um, I 00:12:25.580 --> 00:12:33.919 think trusting, trusting my ability to, to expand 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:40.220 and not to, not to retreat again and again and 00:12:40.220 --> 00:12:43.879 again, uh, whether it was physically, emotionally, 00:12:44.220 --> 00:12:49.570 spiritually, mentally, As soon as I started to 00:12:49.570 --> 00:12:56.049 travel, I have discovered a connection with the 00:12:56.049 --> 00:12:58.289 universe. I like to call it the universe, like 00:12:58.289 --> 00:13:05.250 some people call it God. So I trusted that as 00:13:05.250 --> 00:13:12.330 a sort of, you know, silent guidance. So that 00:13:12.330 --> 00:13:16.009 was... It is hard to explain. It's like when 00:13:16.009 --> 00:13:21.210 you know you're on the right path and you don't 00:13:21.210 --> 00:13:27.570 question it, regardless of whether you are experiencing 00:13:27.570 --> 00:13:32.789 comfort or emotional pain or physical pain in 00:13:32.789 --> 00:13:37.570 some way. So I trusted that anything that came 00:13:37.570 --> 00:13:41.049 up for me, it was the right thing I needed at 00:13:41.049 --> 00:13:45.539 that time. and that I wasn't going to be in that 00:13:45.539 --> 00:13:52.840 state forever. Courage as well, so having the 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:59.919 courage to back yourself up and not only relying 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:05.039 on, for example, family or friendships to gain 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:11.299 a sense of self. Probably courage was the the 00:14:11.299 --> 00:14:15.580 thing that kept me from going back and you know 00:14:15.580 --> 00:14:18.980 push me towards evolution. Yeah and there's a 00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:21.440 I would I would what I'm hearing as well is that 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.580 there's a a world of self -discovery that you 00:14:24.580 --> 00:14:26.940 wanted to find out for your like who you were 00:14:26.940 --> 00:14:33.360 in this new space. Yes because within the football 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:38.299 context even even when I was at school for example 00:14:38.730 --> 00:14:42.029 People they used to compliment me for my football 00:14:42.029 --> 00:14:45.990 skills and never never because of my You know 00:14:45.990 --> 00:14:50.429 human personality traits not because of my kindness 00:14:50.429 --> 00:14:54.090 or anything else. It was all about Oh, you scored 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:57.509 a great goal. Oh, you played well Yeah, you know 00:14:57.509 --> 00:15:00.570 and and I was relating to people that way. So 00:15:00.570 --> 00:15:04.769 like I was you know, you know getting a sense 00:15:04.769 --> 00:15:09.490 of validation in a way And again, as I said before, 00:15:09.490 --> 00:15:12.070 I wanted to rebel against that because I wanted 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:17.149 to prove myself that I was more than that. And 00:15:17.149 --> 00:15:19.269 then I didn't want people to see me just as a 00:15:19.269 --> 00:15:22.190 football player. I wanted people to see me as 00:15:22.190 --> 00:15:25.029 a whole human being because I was struggling 00:15:25.029 --> 00:15:27.409 to see them as whole human being at first. And 00:15:27.409 --> 00:15:30.649 that was painful for me in the beginning. And 00:15:30.649 --> 00:15:34.830 I didn't want to live my life like that. Yeah. 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:37.850 Hence I made the decision to step away. Ladies 00:15:37.850 --> 00:15:40.269 check this out because you're gonna like what 00:15:40.269 --> 00:15:43.289 I'm about to say and fellas. 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And the reason I ask that 00:17:02.049 --> 00:17:04.190 because we talk to a lot of people, entrepreneurs 00:17:04.190 --> 00:17:06.509 and things like that. And so sometimes we get 00:17:06.509 --> 00:17:11.569 stuck in this way of being because people give 00:17:11.569 --> 00:17:14.170 us praise for, I don't know, building a company 00:17:14.170 --> 00:17:18.390 or whatever it may be. But that's what our identity 00:17:18.390 --> 00:17:22.150 is. And so when there's a shift that needs to 00:17:22.150 --> 00:17:25.089 happen, people will be scared to get away from 00:17:25.089 --> 00:17:27.009 that, even though there's a calling for them 00:17:27.009 --> 00:17:28.670 to get away from that. But they're still stuck 00:17:28.670 --> 00:17:32.559 in this identity because of the praise and people 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.539 like you, you made a shift, right? You make the 00:17:34.539 --> 00:17:40.299 shift and you went on a journey. And what was 00:17:40.299 --> 00:17:45.500 the next journey for you? What was that? After 00:17:45.500 --> 00:17:50.799 I began to travel, you mean? Yes. Well, I started 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:56.319 to study within the sports and fitness context. 00:17:57.219 --> 00:18:01.039 And I eventually found I started to work as a 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.940 personal trainer as a sole trader at first. But 00:18:04.940 --> 00:18:08.839 then I quickly realized that without any background 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.779 with business or anything like that, marketing, 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:18.460 it was really hard. So I joined a private studio 00:18:18.460 --> 00:18:21.920 and I worked there as a coach for four years. 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.869 So I was training people to compete in bodybuildings 00:18:25.869 --> 00:18:28.910 or like doing fitness photo shoots, you know, 00:18:29.069 --> 00:18:35.069 body composition, everything around that. So 00:18:35.069 --> 00:18:38.269 that was my next journey, which helped me complement 00:18:38.269 --> 00:18:46.109 my sports background and my interest with psychology 00:18:46.109 --> 00:18:48.230 and coaching because I used to study psychology 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:53.000 in high school too. So that felt like a you know, 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:57.259 a complementation of my of my skills from my 00:18:57.259 --> 00:19:00.119 background. And I really enjoyed doing that doing 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:04.000 that job and dealing with people on a daily base 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.059 and, you know, taking them from A to B and seeing 00:19:07.059 --> 00:19:10.700 them evolve themselves with my with my presence. 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.519 And it was really a fulfilling and satisfying 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:20.740 job. Yeah. But eventually I got to a point that 00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:26.799 even that became restrictive for my spiritual 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:32.279 growth. I was going to say you say restrictive 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.859 for your spiritual growth. What did that look 00:19:34.859 --> 00:19:41.039 like? Well, I was middle 2024, I was struggling 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:48.759 emotionally to open up. So after that initial 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:53.359 period of transitioning, from my traveling into, 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:56.640 you know, settling into a city and actually starting 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:01.640 a job and creating my network of people. Then 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:06.839 eventually I got to a point that even that. Yeah, 00:20:06.980 --> 00:20:09.400 I felt restricted and I was I was not myself. 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.480 I was falling back into old ways of thinking 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.160 and I was doing therapy and it didn't work for 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.259 me because I would talk about stuff, but I wouldn't. 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:24.099 actually have the time to process. And it was 00:20:24.099 --> 00:20:28.000 just words and words. It was just talking. So 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:32.539 I eventually looked into psychedelics and specifically 00:20:32.539 --> 00:20:39.880 ayahuasca because I, after researches, I had 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:43.220 a feeling that's what I needed to get to the 00:20:43.220 --> 00:20:45.559 core of my traumas, to get to the core of what 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.079 I was struggling with. And therapy wasn't doing 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.390 it for me anymore. So I made a decision to go 00:20:52.390 --> 00:20:54.710 to South America and work with shamans and work 00:20:54.710 --> 00:20:58.289 with with the medicine they call it the medicine 00:20:58.289 --> 00:21:02.990 and and after that I came back and that's why 00:21:02.990 --> 00:21:06.289 my my life and my job as a personal trainer fat 00:21:06.289 --> 00:21:12.069 restricted because Being in a gym all day With 00:21:12.069 --> 00:21:15.750 the music loud with people slamming weights right 00:21:15.750 --> 00:21:20.430 and left. There's a big ego sometimes going around 00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:26.809 at the gym. Maybe you know that. So I didn't 00:21:26.809 --> 00:21:32.289 want to be part of that while I was transforming, 00:21:32.609 --> 00:21:38.990 while I was shifting again towards a more grounded 00:21:38.990 --> 00:21:45.150 and authentic life. Yeah, so you're you're still 00:21:45.150 --> 00:21:48.410 personally coaching was there something a situation 00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:51.250 or something because typically when we go on 00:21:51.250 --> 00:21:55.150 a journey like that and not that I have yet But 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:56.970 typically when people go on a journey like that, 00:21:57.109 --> 00:21:59.289 I'll ask I was gonna have a really good friend 00:21:59.289 --> 00:22:02.450 Who's done that who's actually been on the podcast 00:22:02.450 --> 00:22:05.549 and he did that some time ago another person 00:22:05.549 --> 00:22:08.849 who was on the podcast Susanna Stokes She went 00:22:08.849 --> 00:22:10.890 on that journey as well. And there's always something 00:22:10.890 --> 00:22:14.849 that that it was like It was a not necessarily 00:22:14.849 --> 00:22:17.950 a trigger moment, but I'm just going to use that 00:22:17.950 --> 00:22:21.430 as a trigger moment that sent them on this journey, 00:22:21.630 --> 00:22:26.769 much like you, that led them to the Ayahuasca 00:22:26.769 --> 00:22:30.950 area. I don't know. What was that trigger moment 00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:32.970 for you or a moment for you? I don't know if 00:22:32.970 --> 00:22:36.049 it was a trigger, but just a moment for you that 00:22:36.049 --> 00:22:39.910 led you to get to the journey to the Ayahuasca. 00:22:40.109 --> 00:22:42.930 Well, yeah, there's, there's, there are many 00:22:42.930 --> 00:22:46.390 triggers, but I would say the most profound one 00:22:46.390 --> 00:22:50.549 is I had this feeling of brokenness, broken, 00:22:51.130 --> 00:22:54.130 brokenness. I felt there was something deep inside 00:22:54.130 --> 00:22:58.529 me that something was wrong. And I couldn't figure 00:22:58.529 --> 00:23:01.670 out what it was, but then I actually understood 00:23:01.670 --> 00:23:05.509 that there's nothing wrong. Um, and again, I 00:23:05.509 --> 00:23:08.930 was identifying myself with this feeling of brokenness. 00:23:10.470 --> 00:23:15.329 especially within a romantic context. So I was 00:23:15.329 --> 00:23:19.490 with a woman for two years and this woman really 00:23:19.490 --> 00:23:24.630 supported me in my growth. But it was really 00:23:24.630 --> 00:23:27.349 triggering as everything that makes you grow, 00:23:27.849 --> 00:23:30.710 it triggers you like the deepest part of yourself. 00:23:33.190 --> 00:23:38.009 So shifting from this mindset of victimhood to 00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:43.569 to empowerment and taking ownership of my story, 00:23:43.829 --> 00:23:47.069 of my traumas, and not making somebody else, 00:23:47.710 --> 00:23:49.650 which is what I was doing within the romantic 00:23:49.650 --> 00:23:52.529 context. I was projecting my stuff onto her, 00:23:53.450 --> 00:23:58.809 regardless of how patient she was. So that was 00:23:58.809 --> 00:24:03.910 the biggest trigger for me. So you had that trigger. 00:24:04.009 --> 00:24:07.849 You went to the ayahuasca. asking these questions 00:24:07.849 --> 00:24:13.289 out of curiosity, right? Me and Yvonne, we think 00:24:13.289 --> 00:24:16.750 it's, we think it's a cool thing. But we haven't 00:24:16.750 --> 00:24:19.750 done it. And we're talking about you. I said, 00:24:19.750 --> 00:24:22.069 we might need to have, we might need to take 00:24:22.069 --> 00:24:24.630 a trip to the Peruvian jungle. You know what 00:24:24.630 --> 00:24:27.710 I mean? To find that, you know, to get some clarity 00:24:27.710 --> 00:24:33.609 for ourselves. But you went down there. And there's 00:24:33.609 --> 00:24:38.410 a, when I was reading, you have the saying that 00:24:38.410 --> 00:24:42.309 ayahuasca, well, first of all, for those, most 00:24:42.309 --> 00:24:45.650 people pretty much know what ayahuasca is. But 00:24:45.650 --> 00:24:49.089 just for the people that don't know, what is 00:24:49.089 --> 00:24:53.910 ayahuasca? Ayahuasca is a plant native from South 00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:57.769 America, from region like Peru, Brazil, Ecuador, 00:24:57.970 --> 00:25:02.170 and Colombia. It is a combination of two plants, 00:25:02.190 --> 00:25:06.839 actually. So the ayahuasca vine, and the chakruna 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.160 bushes, which are leaves and they are combined 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:15.059 together boiled into hot water for a amount of 00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:18.680 hours and what comes out is a sticky reddish 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.220 liquid that it gets given to the participants 00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:26.720 in the ceremonial space. So we got to drink it 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:31.259 and it contains DMT, which is a psychedelic substance. 00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:37.440 Dino -methyls try something. Triathlon or something. 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.359 I remember, I know the word, the letters DMT. 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.299 Um, I did a little study on that some years ago. 00:25:43.859 --> 00:25:48.160 Um, and you, you got into that space of ayahuasca. 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:54.839 You took ayahuasca and I've seen just that it's 00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.119 an enlightenment space for people or a moment 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.799 for people. What did ayahuasca do for you? Because 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.400 you mean, first of all, you're on this journey, 00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:04.859 trying to figure out your identity and and really 00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:06.980 knowing that you're going through this transformation 00:26:06.980 --> 00:26:13.740 and now you find yourself in the space of ayahuasca 00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:18.359 and you've taken that and there's what's now 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:23.640 happening for you. Ayahuasca allowed me to, it 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:29.119 stripped away most of my illusions but even to 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.890 this day with integration it's a constant It's 00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:35.829 a constant process, constant evolution. So it's 00:26:35.829 --> 00:26:39.869 not because I went that my life changed. It's 00:26:39.869 --> 00:26:42.470 because of my willingness to integrate the experience 00:26:42.470 --> 00:26:48.950 afterwards that my life is changing how I want 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:55.890 to. So I would say Ayahuasca allow me to destroy 00:26:55.890 --> 00:27:00.039 the armor that I've built. and the character 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:05.359 I've built for so many years, it destroyed that. 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:13.400 And it left me vulnerable with my creative self. 00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:17.640 And that's the life I want to live. That's the 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.880 life I've decided to live. A life of creation, 00:27:21.099 --> 00:27:26.119 not a life of victimhood. Life of creation. Do 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:31.859 you feel like that... You've gotten to the core 00:27:31.859 --> 00:27:37.940 of who you are authentically I Am getting glimpses 00:27:37.940 --> 00:27:42.339 of it. Yes, it is hard to say if I if I got to 00:27:42.339 --> 00:27:46.940 the real core, but I'm I'm getting close Just 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:51.960 by the small decision I'm making daily And what 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.500 what comes you know the consequences of those 00:27:55.500 --> 00:28:02.079 little decision I can realize that I am constantly 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:08.779 deciding to live that life, which is promising. 00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:14.759 Now, what's different for you now? Who are you 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:19.059 now versus who you were then? What's the distinct 00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:22.859 difference that you can feel and tell within 00:28:22.859 --> 00:28:26.359 yourself that going on this journey, taking the 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.200 ayahuasca and now being here that you can see. 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:37.339 I am definitely a more humbly but empowered being. 00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:43.920 I feel responsible for my decisions, for my life. 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.779 Not that I didn't before, but now I am closer 00:28:51.779 --> 00:28:57.700 to the truth. Before I did it because I was, 00:28:57.700 --> 00:29:03.200 you know, acting on sometimes intuition on impulses 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.539 at times that led me somewhere. Yeah. But this 00:29:07.539 --> 00:29:12.720 time I am more conscious and I have a more, more 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:19.819 intimate relations with my intuition. So that's, 00:29:19.819 --> 00:29:23.299 that's the being I was before reactive being. 00:29:24.099 --> 00:29:29.380 Out of control and now I am responsive to life. 00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:34.400 I'm not reacting to life Which is a massive shift 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:39.759 Yeah It's like before I had external stimulus 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.759 and I would just instantly react like it was 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:46.579 an animal for example Now I have the external 00:29:46.579 --> 00:29:49.279 stimulus and I like take my time to pause and 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:53.109 decide what I want to do with that stimulus Um, 00:29:53.509 --> 00:29:56.470 in all the areas of my life, whether it's relating 00:29:56.470 --> 00:30:01.190 to human beings in an interaction, whether it's 00:30:01.190 --> 00:30:04.250 in the romantic context, whether it's in, uh, 00:30:04.250 --> 00:30:08.230 you know, sports and training. Um, that was, 00:30:08.250 --> 00:30:13.269 that was a, the most significant shift I, I had. 00:30:14.369 --> 00:30:17.450 Is there a community with you now of people that 00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:20.490 have shifted their lives in the way that you 00:30:20.490 --> 00:30:26.740 did? No. The people that I've done the experience 00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:29.819 with, because I wasn't alone, it was 25 of us, 00:30:30.579 --> 00:30:34.039 people I didn't know, that still to this day, 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.900 with some of them, we keep in touch. And some 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:42.259 of them, they are on my same path. And that's 00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:44.359 why what we talk, we can relate to each other. 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.240 But I find it really hard to... to speak about 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.819 my experience with family and friends because 00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:53.579 they haven't done it. And when you get to work 00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:59.720 with such a powerful plant like ayahuasca, it 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.740 is a delicate topic to talk about people that 00:31:03.740 --> 00:31:07.839 they haven't done it. Yeah, I ask that question 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.440 because I know that there are people that may 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.359 want to do it. They listen to this podcast and 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.369 it may empower them to do it. Um, but they don't 00:31:18.369 --> 00:31:21.730 have the community because it is, it is kind 00:31:21.730 --> 00:31:25.430 of a controversial kind of thing. Um, I don't 00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:28.829 think it should be, but you know, that's kind 00:31:28.829 --> 00:31:33.230 of what society has created to be in a way. But 00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:39.869 you, you are now calling yourself a truth receiver, 00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:43.490 not a truth seeker. Am I right? Yeah. What's 00:31:43.490 --> 00:31:46.789 the difference in the shift in your mindset to 00:31:46.789 --> 00:31:48.869 say, you know what, I was seeking truth at some 00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:53.930 point, but now I'm receiving. The way I see it 00:31:53.930 --> 00:31:59.029 is it feels my responsibility now not to seek 00:31:59.029 --> 00:32:04.650 the truth externally to me. Again, it puts me 00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:09.430 in a survival mode in a way. But when I made 00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:14.069 the shift of calling myself a receiver of truth, 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.680 It was because I felt an opening in my heart, 00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:23.599 in my expression, and truth always arises within. 00:32:24.299 --> 00:32:32.940 It's not outside of us. So if I stay open, and 00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:41.619 if I keep myself abundant to the treasures of 00:32:41.619 --> 00:32:47.769 my own soul, and explore those gifts with small 00:32:47.769 --> 00:32:52.130 steps, then I know that's the truth because I'm 00:32:52.130 --> 00:32:56.710 acting on an intrinsic motivation, like you've 00:32:56.710 --> 00:32:59.630 mentioned intrinsic before. It comes straight 00:32:59.630 --> 00:33:02.849 from the source, which is me. It doesn't come 00:33:02.849 --> 00:33:06.690 from something else. So I'm not a seeker anymore 00:33:06.690 --> 00:33:11.480 for that reason. And if I... If I have the willingness 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:15.579 and the courage to observe my inner landscapes, 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:20.839 that's what the truth come from. So it doesn't 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:24.400 come from your parents. It doesn't come from 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.960 your best friends. Whatever they say, it doesn't 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:32.759 matter in a way. What matters is what's inside 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.059 you, what you want to do, like the longings of 00:33:37.059 --> 00:33:41.759 your soul. And I feel I must listen to those 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.220 So there's a big difference that I mean that 00:33:45.220 --> 00:33:50.140 I'm hearing When before your journey it was like 00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:55.140 there was this outside praise outside Ambition 00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:57.380 the things that that you saw on the outside was 00:33:57.380 --> 00:33:59.920 something that you were going after but now what 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:04.819 you're realizing Is that everything that that 00:34:04.819 --> 00:34:09.630 is fulfilling to you? Comes from within Yes, 00:34:09.849 --> 00:34:18.369 so what would you say to someone? That is Seeking 00:34:18.369 --> 00:34:21.530 and searching for wealth and all these kind of 00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:24.349 things that's on the outside Which is to have 00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:27.250 that it's fine, but it's really all the things 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:31.110 that are coming from you That you're really I 00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:33.590 don't know Causing and creating for your life 00:34:33.590 --> 00:34:40.340 to be Yeah that it takes courage and that it 00:34:40.340 --> 00:34:47.159 takes the willingness to observe the little things. 00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:53.940 And what helped me the most, it was reflecting 00:34:53.940 --> 00:35:00.280 or like meditating on the meaning of death. So 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.219 when I started to reflect on death, there was 00:35:04.219 --> 00:35:09.139 another shifting moment for me because I realized 00:35:09.139 --> 00:35:12.639 I wasn't going to live somebody else's life or 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.980 I wasn't going to live on somebody else's approval. 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.820 Even if I loved them, it still didn't matter 00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:27.179 because I was the one living my life. So meditating 00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:31.820 on the on the brevity of life, meditating on 00:35:31.820 --> 00:35:36.550 what do I really want to do? If nobody else was 00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:40.570 around me, like would I still do, would I still 00:35:40.570 --> 00:35:43.090 do it or would I, would I do it because somebody 00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:46.250 else is, is giving me thumbs up or he's telling 00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:49.550 me, yeah, you're doing great. Would I still do 00:35:49.550 --> 00:35:53.750 it if somebody, if nobody was there to, to applaud 00:35:53.750 --> 00:35:58.329 me or to cheer me on. Um, so it was asking myself 00:35:58.329 --> 00:36:03.889 those questions, um, that, that shifted the whole 00:36:03.889 --> 00:36:07.710 thing. You know You said that you started to 00:36:07.710 --> 00:36:11.289 take a new view on death. What's that view now? 00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:20.510 I I reflect on death a lot because There's a 00:36:20.510 --> 00:36:22.969 direct connection between life and death. So 00:36:22.969 --> 00:36:26.530 for example when we go to sleep Yeah, when we 00:36:26.530 --> 00:36:28.769 go to sleep at night and we wake up the next 00:36:28.769 --> 00:36:33.480 day and we experience dreams and You know experiences 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.559 in in the subconscious then The part of like 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.599 also actually leaves the body and we we come 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.179 back to the body in the morning So that's also 00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:46.619 a death in itself But we don't call it that we 00:36:46.619 --> 00:36:49.400 call it sleep at least that that's what I experienced 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.039 in my sleep I'm not saying that everybody else 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.860 needs to experience that but that's that's how 00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:57.360 I feel when I When I go to sleep and when I when 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.280 I wake up in the morning, we have that choice 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.440 every day and it's not going to be anything different 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:09.420 when we die from our physical body. So with death 00:37:09.420 --> 00:37:19.300 comes the switch from risk -taking to following 00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:24.820 the longings of my soul. So the first time I 00:37:24.820 --> 00:37:29.119 left Italy to go to Australia, For me, it was 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:34.119 a risk because I left a career in a semi -professional 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.960 football career and a job and the comfort of 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.980 my family life, my friends. So I perceived it 00:37:41.980 --> 00:37:47.699 as a risk. But when I did it again, early this 00:37:47.699 --> 00:37:52.019 year, coming back to Italy and quitting my job 00:37:52.019 --> 00:37:54.880 as a personal trainer, which was going to lead 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.500 me to become an Australian citizen, I quit that 00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:01.579 because it felt restrictive as I felt before, 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.760 as I said before. It didn't feel like a risk 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.219 at all. Because after the experience, I learned 00:38:09.219 --> 00:38:16.239 how to trust the call, the intuition, the God 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.940 guidance, whatever we want to call it. And because 00:38:19.940 --> 00:38:23.539 I'm trusting that I know it's not a risk. It 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:28.960 is not a risk. It is just me. following my own 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.320 path. And that to me links with with with the 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.860 brevity of that to actually live my life as I 00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:39.980 want to live my life. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. 00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.800 And I want to ask you about Okay, so I'm gonna 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.639 go a little deeper with what you just said. Like, 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.599 so this is in your view, I don't know about the 00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:54.079 science of it at all. When we go to sleep, you 00:38:54.380 --> 00:38:57.920 you say that we are so souls leave the body and 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:04.480 it's our choice to wake back up. Yeah, yes. Talk 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.940 about that a little bit because that in that 00:39:06.940 --> 00:39:09.800 I what I'm hearing is the word that shows up 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.480 is transcendental. I don't know too much about 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.780 it. So I can't really speak on it too too much. 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.840 But I'm interested to hear what you have to say 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:25.280 about that because in many of the quantum physics 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.000 or transcendental or some of the laws of the 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.760 universe. Like that's where our life is developed 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.440 in that space when we're asleep. And so when 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.119 we wake up to this reality, it's the reality 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.519 that we created from the subconscious and whatever 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.199 in that space. So that's the real world. And 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.559 then we wake up and then we're here in the matrix, 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.420 so to speak, and this is what we're, that's where 00:39:55.420 --> 00:39:57.980 we are, but we can always change that. So I just, 00:39:58.059 --> 00:40:01.280 I want to get your, your, your insight on that. 00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:04.880 I think there's a, there's lots of taboo around 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.960 dreams and they, you know, they just appearances 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:13.079 in our minds, but I don't believe that. I think, 00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:18.300 I think our waking life is as important and as 00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:24.070 our, you know, dreaming mind. And there is no, 00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:28.690 there is no separation between the two. And, 00:40:28.690 --> 00:40:31.829 uh, as I said before, when I go to sleep and 00:40:31.829 --> 00:40:35.469 I make my, my prayer before I go to sleep or 00:40:35.469 --> 00:40:40.050 whatever, it's your routine, then that's an intention 00:40:40.050 --> 00:40:45.070 to, to experience something in a way why you 00:40:45.070 --> 00:40:49.510 sleep. And that intention must be carried forward 00:40:49.510 --> 00:40:55.639 onto the next day. So if you're a person who 00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:01.059 experiences dreams like lucid dreams, vivid dreams, 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:09.639 I feel that those are powerful insights to be 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.599 taken care of when we are awake again the next 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.539 day, at least to give ourselves the time to reflect 00:41:17.539 --> 00:41:21.170 on those experiences. Because they are not just 00:41:21.170 --> 00:41:24.590 fleeting experiences. They are there for a reason. 00:41:25.170 --> 00:41:27.409 Whether it's your subconscious speaking to you, 00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:31.969 whether you are dreaming of people, whether you're 00:41:31.969 --> 00:41:37.130 dreaming of perfect scenarios. So I think a dream 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:41.269 is an accurate representation of where we are 00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:48.019 on our spiritual journey to enlightenment. And 00:41:48.019 --> 00:41:51.659 I take that very seriously. And I've learned 00:41:51.659 --> 00:41:58.000 how to tune in with my dreams and to let them 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:07.420 guide my waking life and to do my best to, you 00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:11.820 know, in a way, interpretate them, but not so 00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:15.679 obsessively that they take me away from the reality 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.429 of waking life. So I like to call that spiritual 00:42:19.429 --> 00:42:24.389 homeostasis, which is spiritual homeostasis, 00:42:25.789 --> 00:42:31.210 which is the liminal space in between being awake 00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:40.610 and dreaming. So that's my view on that. I mean, 00:42:40.769 --> 00:42:44.730 you were working in things and so you can apply 00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:49.340 this to... um entrepreneurs and business people 00:42:49.340 --> 00:42:53.840 how how how would they apply that to their lives 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.500 and their situations as being like a a business 00:42:56.500 --> 00:43:01.440 owner as in like practical practical tools to 00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:05.900 anyone yeah i can't say right now practical tool 00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:10.159 yes in regards to the dreams you mean yes like 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.480 i mean in this Like we're talking about some 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.900 spiritual things, you know, your spiritual self 00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:17.179 and your spiritual self really guides you to 00:43:17.179 --> 00:43:20.280 who you are in the real world. And so in the 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:25.159 real world, these it could be a practical practical 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.380 tool that can guide you as an individual in different 00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:32.239 decisions and choices that you need to make. 00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:35.019 Right. Yeah. And so that's that's kind of where 00:43:35.019 --> 00:43:41.440 I'm leading to. Yeah. Well, I've started to experience 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:45.179 in my sleep, especially after my ayahuasca experience, 00:43:45.539 --> 00:43:48.500 so I can only speak about that time frame, which 00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:57.019 is more than half an year. But especially in 00:43:57.019 --> 00:44:02.139 this phase of my life, which I think it's the 00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:07.420 starting of my... I'm stepping into entrepreneurship. 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:12.179 or business like I've never done before. I've, 00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:14.380 you know, again, I've worked as a coach before, 00:44:14.380 --> 00:44:17.900 but I was working for somebody else. So I didn't 00:44:17.900 --> 00:44:21.719 have fully control over the decisions I would 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:26.460 make. But now that I stepped away from that and 00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:34.159 I'm by myself, dreams are helping me to reveal 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.900 some shadow parts of myself in regards to business, 00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:46.980 in regards to money, and the perception I had, 00:44:48.059 --> 00:44:51.380 especially around those two aspects of the human 00:44:51.380 --> 00:44:58.619 life. And they are allowing me to have little 00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:02.900 breakthroughs in my journey to I don't know if 00:45:02.900 --> 00:45:05.900 I want to become a, you know, a entrepreneur 00:45:05.900 --> 00:45:09.619 or, you know, a millionaire. Probably not. That's 00:45:09.619 --> 00:45:14.019 not my interest at this stage. But at least I'm 00:45:14.019 --> 00:45:23.000 exploring those lacking aspects of my life, which 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.719 have long kept me stuck in the past. And I think 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:31.099 are leading me to a potential that I haven't 00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:36.880 yet explored, but that I know it's there. So 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.960 I can give you example of my own experiences, 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.860 for example, dreaming about receiving money or 00:45:42.860 --> 00:45:47.360 finding money, you know, underneath bushes, or 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.219 people giving me money, you know, huge amounts 00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:56.539 or seeing a, what's it called? A safe, a big 00:45:56.539 --> 00:46:01.340 safe in a bank. And then I just think about those 00:46:01.340 --> 00:46:05.920 dreams. I try to attribute to those dreams my 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.360 personal interpretation based on all the details 00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.539 around those experiences too. And I am understanding 00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:17.880 that those dreams are leading me to build something 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.099 for myself, which I'm slowly starting to do in 00:46:22.099 --> 00:46:26.500 the spiritual context, in the, you know, even 00:46:26.500 --> 00:46:31.239 fitness context in a way. So they are all implementing 00:46:31.579 --> 00:46:35.219 all my past skills with the skills I'm learning 00:46:35.219 --> 00:46:39.739 now more in the business and money -making context. 00:46:40.739 --> 00:46:46.699 Yeah. What I'm also hearing in this part is that 00:46:46.699 --> 00:46:52.820 you are really leading a life that you're creating 00:46:52.820 --> 00:46:57.519 and designing that is in harmony with who you 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.469 see yourself being in this very moment. Yes, 00:47:01.469 --> 00:47:04.309 which is accurate. Yeah, that's that's really 00:47:04.309 --> 00:47:08.909 accurate. Yeah, you you you read my unspoken 00:47:08.909 --> 00:47:15.210 words really well I think that's amazing because 00:47:15.210 --> 00:47:19.789 I would have I would assert that Living this 00:47:19.789 --> 00:47:23.170 life right now is fulfilling. I mean probably 00:47:23.170 --> 00:47:26.969 there's parts that Are maybe are not working 00:47:26.969 --> 00:47:29.409 as well as you want them to much like everybody 00:47:29.409 --> 00:47:32.900 else in the world, but I would assert that this 00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:36.159 is a very fulfilling space and time in your life 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.500 for you right now. Because it keeps me curious. 00:47:41.019 --> 00:47:44.199 And I've definitely, you know, thought about 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.119 ammonium business before. Even four or five years 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.900 ago, I had clients telling me, oh, you should 00:47:49.900 --> 00:47:52.119 open a gym and all that. And I was like, I don't 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.800 want to. I don't want to think about all the 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.179 bureaucracy going around behind the scene. I'm 00:47:57.179 --> 00:48:00.750 happy working for someone. You know, getting 00:48:00.750 --> 00:48:03.849 paid by the hour and I'm happy like that. But 00:48:03.849 --> 00:48:07.269 now even thinking about myself speaking that 00:48:07.269 --> 00:48:11.869 way, it makes me feel like who was that guy speaking? 00:48:11.949 --> 00:48:16.329 That was not me. But now because I'm present 00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:21.349 with my life and I am again following where my 00:48:21.349 --> 00:48:23.670 soul is taking me, even though it is carrying 00:48:23.670 --> 00:48:31.230 some time. It's allowing me to tap in with what's 00:48:31.230 --> 00:48:35.190 present now without worrying too much about my 00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:38.690 past or even the future. Of course, it is good 00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:42.869 to have plans and ideas of what someone wants 00:48:42.869 --> 00:48:45.889 to do in the future and building towards it. 00:48:46.469 --> 00:48:48.889 But if that takes away from the present moment, 00:48:49.289 --> 00:48:53.030 then I don't believe that's what manifestation 00:48:53.030 --> 00:48:59.280 is. What's present for you right now What's present 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:07.559 for me right now Expression So Doing my best 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.059 to express myself Whether I like it or not express 00:49:12.059 --> 00:49:17.079 my whole self as I am and being honest towards 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:26.889 myself Yeah, and Yeah building something that 00:49:26.889 --> 00:49:35.190 it's exciting for me. And that, you know, pushes 00:49:35.190 --> 00:49:41.289 me to explore and evolve and create for the sake 00:49:41.289 --> 00:49:45.590 of it. For the sake of pure creation and not 00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:51.250 and not because of validation anymore. Pure creation 00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:55.219 just for the creation sake. and not validation. 00:49:57.099 --> 00:49:59.320 There's a lot to be said just with that right 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.500 there. There's a lot to be said. We can talk 00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:07.079 about it. That is a lot to be said. So let's 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.219 talk about it. In this space right now, you're 00:50:12.219 --> 00:50:15.239 just saying that in your life right now, you're 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.659 just being creative. And actually, I want to 00:50:17.659 --> 00:50:20.139 talk about that. But you don't need validation. 00:50:21.450 --> 00:50:24.429 What, what is that for you now? They like that 00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:26.949 you don't have that, that you don't need validation. 00:50:28.829 --> 00:50:35.389 I don't need validation because it is. Well, 00:50:36.329 --> 00:50:41.449 it can be a, it can be a bonus. I'm not saying 00:50:41.449 --> 00:50:43.809 that validation is there's something wrong with 00:50:43.809 --> 00:50:47.849 it. You know, if, if you do something because 00:50:47.849 --> 00:50:50.949 it's pure and innocence and you've created that. 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.300 you can decide whether to keep it for yourself 00:50:55.300 --> 00:50:59.480 or to share it with the world. Whether it's through 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:04.940 a post on Instagram or a poem, for example, whether 00:51:04.940 --> 00:51:11.300 it's an article, whether it's thoughts, emotions. 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.380 So those are two options. Either you keep it 00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:17.659 for yourself for the fulfillment of your own 00:51:17.659 --> 00:51:22.159 self, or either you share it With somebody else, 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.320 but if you share with somebody else. You need 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.219 to be aware that people might validate you for 00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:30.880 that or people might destroy you for that. And 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.719 that's none of your problems. That's none of 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.159 your problems. You can't control what people. 00:51:37.099 --> 00:51:40.760 What people's reaction. So, if you share it, 00:51:40.820 --> 00:51:44.960 if you decide to share it. And take and you can 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.789 take the consequences of that. whether it's the 00:51:47.789 --> 00:51:52.329 positive or the negative brackets, then you know 00:51:52.329 --> 00:51:57.090 that you've done that for the sake of sharing 00:51:57.090 --> 00:52:02.670 it with your unconditional self, with love, and 00:52:02.670 --> 00:52:07.889 you're not influenced by anybody else's. And 00:52:07.889 --> 00:52:10.949 that's the way I see it. So there are multiple, 00:52:10.949 --> 00:52:14.940 for example, thoughts and Philosophic ideas that 00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:18.960 I I keep for myself my diary and that I would 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.599 love to share with people But that I know that 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:29.000 if I do Maybe certain things are not ready for 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.239 for people's reaction because it can take away 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.559 Can take away my power in a way if I'm not careful. 00:52:36.940 --> 00:52:42.219 Yeah, and that's the same thing what you share 00:52:42.219 --> 00:52:43.960 with people. I'll give you an example. When I 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.139 came back from my ayahuasca experience, it was 00:52:47.139 --> 00:52:50.800 a delicate and sensitive time of my life. So 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:55.260 I decided not to talk with anybody within my 00:52:55.260 --> 00:52:57.619 family or friendship context, because I knew 00:52:57.619 --> 00:53:00.659 that they couldn't relate. But not because I 00:53:00.659 --> 00:53:05.360 was superior to them, not at all, because they 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.059 didn't experience that. So their reaction in 00:53:09.059 --> 00:53:12.710 my sensitive state It was going to take away 00:53:12.710 --> 00:53:17.650 my power, the power I had. You know, I was desperate 00:53:17.650 --> 00:53:20.769 to regain for myself and it's the same thing 00:53:20.769 --> 00:53:24.610 with, um, with the sake of creation and, and 00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:27.769 valid external validation. Yeah. Well, we're 00:53:27.769 --> 00:53:30.110 in the world of creators, especially with all 00:53:30.110 --> 00:53:33.449 of this stuff. Right. And so I think that's something 00:53:33.449 --> 00:53:37.789 to be said that we do this for X, Y, and Z reasons, 00:53:37.789 --> 00:53:42.349 but not to be validated. Um, Because, you know, 00:53:42.510 --> 00:53:46.550 if that's the, the reason why that's the purpose, 00:53:47.030 --> 00:53:50.710 then, you know, your heart will be broken all 00:53:50.710 --> 00:53:54.489 day, every day, you know, and it really will 00:53:54.489 --> 00:53:58.389 play with someone's psyche, if they're not validated 00:53:58.389 --> 00:54:04.110 out of their creation. And it may just, you know, 00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:07.369 like you said, it may it may break you. Yeah. 00:54:08.010 --> 00:54:11.610 And I think it comes in place also, the money 00:54:11.610 --> 00:54:14.030 aspect here, because sometimes when you create 00:54:14.030 --> 00:54:21.110 and you put a price on it, for example, it becomes 00:54:21.110 --> 00:54:25.750 an interesting dynamic. Then you start to create 00:54:25.750 --> 00:54:29.309 because you know you're going to get the value 00:54:29.309 --> 00:54:36.869 out of it. Then you start to create again out 00:54:36.869 --> 00:54:41.059 of external influences, not because it comes 00:54:41.059 --> 00:54:48.260 from the purity of your being. So that's also 00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:50.940 another interesting dynamic that I am exploring 00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:55.179 now. That's what you're exploring. And on Substack, 00:54:56.059 --> 00:54:58.800 what we found is, are these your poems that's 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:04.179 on Substack? Yes, I have two pages on Substack. 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.889 One, it's called The Hybrid Soul Blood. poems 00:55:07.889 --> 00:55:11.070 and articles about anything that comes to my 00:55:11.070 --> 00:55:13.789 mind, you know, around shadow work, authenticity, 00:55:14.250 --> 00:55:18.909 spirituality, creativity as well. And the other 00:55:18.909 --> 00:55:22.030 page, which is called Oniric Life, which I share 00:55:22.030 --> 00:55:26.550 about my Oniric experiences and practical tools, 00:55:26.769 --> 00:55:31.130 as I said before, to remember dreams more efficiently 00:55:31.130 --> 00:55:36.409 and how to have a more intimate relationship 00:55:36.409 --> 00:55:40.539 with um, with, with our dreams and let them guide 00:55:40.539 --> 00:55:44.159 us. Talk a little bit about shadow work. What 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:49.440 is that? Shadow work is getting familiar and 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.400 comfortable with, with the traits that we despise 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:57.340 about ourselves or other people. So for example, 00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.079 I used to experience jealousy within a romantic 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:10.679 context. So, um, Well, I like to say that I wasn't 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.139 the jealous one, but sometimes I was acting as 00:56:13.139 --> 00:56:17.300 the jealous one. So that made me jealous. So 00:56:17.300 --> 00:56:20.340 it's all these, you know, these things that we 00:56:20.340 --> 00:56:25.099 play in our heads. But now, so I had to face 00:56:25.099 --> 00:56:28.940 myself. So I just, I just stayed there and I 00:56:28.940 --> 00:56:32.320 was journal about my jealousy. So anytime I would 00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.219 get triggered because I was jealous, then I would 00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:40.400 write it down. as it was, was I was feeling without, 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:45.159 you know, bullshitting myself, with all honesty 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:50.579 and read that again until it became part of, 00:56:50.860 --> 00:56:54.340 until I accepted that trait of myself. Yeah. 00:56:54.659 --> 00:56:57.000 And I did that the same again and again with 00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.340 all the fears I had. For example, public speaking, 00:57:00.500 --> 00:57:05.360 I was absolutely, you know, afraid of Speaking 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.679 in front of the camera and expressing my opinions 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:13.019 and myself and my story and And here I am. So 00:57:13.019 --> 00:57:15.260 that's that's a part of myself. I've accepted 00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:19.420 and Sometimes it does cares me again, but I don't 00:57:19.420 --> 00:57:23.519 let that fear control me. So That's that's what 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.320 part of the shadow work is Okay, I like that 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:32.420 because we all have our shadows, right? And so 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:36.699 to work on those would be, you know, definitely, 00:57:36.739 --> 00:57:44.400 definitely beneficial. So, Cristiano, who are 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:50.380 you today? I am, I got asked this question before, 00:57:50.420 --> 00:57:53.280 so I'm prepared for it. Oh, nice, nice, nice. 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:59.639 So, who I am today, I am the creator and the 00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:04.599 destroyer of my life. I am everything and nothing. 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:10.840 I am all the paradoxical nature of my spirit. 00:58:12.300 --> 00:58:18.300 I am all the opposing forces of life. I'm the 00:58:18.300 --> 00:58:22.840 good and the bad. So I could go on and on and 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:33.550 on. That's who I am today. That's the words that 00:58:33.550 --> 00:58:37.309 came to mind is the yin and the yang of of your 00:58:37.309 --> 00:58:40.030 life, right? That's the that's what came to mind 00:58:40.030 --> 00:58:45.449 and it was You you prepared for that that answer 00:58:45.449 --> 00:58:49.230 But that's really from your heart I could sense 00:58:49.230 --> 00:58:51.150 that's really truly who you believe yourself 00:58:51.150 --> 00:58:53.929 to be and that's probably what makes you a poet 00:58:53.929 --> 00:59:02.150 Yeah, I I consider myself an hybrid hybrid soul 00:59:02.150 --> 00:59:07.550 as I as I call my blog so someone who someone 00:59:07.550 --> 00:59:14.469 who doesn't You know identify it say you I don't 00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:18.670 identify myself with with one single aspect Anymore 00:59:18.670 --> 00:59:22.210 like I did with football. So it is a pleasure 00:59:22.210 --> 00:59:25.050 that you calling me a poet and I'm grateful for 00:59:25.050 --> 00:59:27.570 it If you've read my poems and they've touched 00:59:27.570 --> 00:59:31.610 you, I'm super grateful. So yes, I am a poet, 00:59:31.690 --> 00:59:38.090 but I'm also a writer. I am a son. I am a coach. 00:59:38.210 --> 00:59:42.230 I'm an athlete. I am everything I want to be, 00:59:42.449 --> 00:59:47.750 honestly. And so I'm trying to live my life as 00:59:47.750 --> 00:59:52.070 a whole, which... you know, it makes me capable 00:59:52.070 --> 00:59:54.590 of doing bad because I've done bad before and 00:59:54.590 --> 00:59:57.730 I've hurt people and I don't shy away from it. 00:59:57.730 --> 01:00:00.869 I'm not perfect. Even to these days, I sometimes 01:00:00.869 --> 01:00:05.010 hurt people or hurt myself or fall back into, 01:00:05.010 --> 01:00:07.949 you know, self -sabotaging, you know, multiple 01:00:07.949 --> 01:00:13.210 times. But at least I'm doing my best to be quick 01:00:13.210 --> 01:00:16.610 and to realize that and to shift the narrative. 01:00:19.710 --> 01:00:22.530 You did say that you were everything and nothing. 01:00:23.210 --> 01:00:28.070 So that really speaks to that. Christian, there's 01:00:28.070 --> 01:00:30.750 so much that we could talk about. We're coming 01:00:30.750 --> 01:00:33.730 up on the hour. But first and foremost, I want 01:00:33.730 --> 01:00:36.730 to say thank you for sharing your story and just 01:00:36.730 --> 01:00:41.070 being willing to be open about your experience 01:00:41.070 --> 01:00:45.269 and your journey. I don't think that everybody 01:00:45.269 --> 01:00:50.800 has that ability. To just be open about you know 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:55.000 where they are who they are who they're not and 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.780 bringing that to just to the two people to share 01:00:58.780 --> 01:01:04.619 what you've been through and Inspire folks to 01:01:04.619 --> 01:01:08.219 do the same for themselves What is your mission 01:01:08.219 --> 01:01:12.280 now? What is my mission I didn't prepare for 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:19.190 that question What is my mission? You can workshop 01:01:19.190 --> 01:01:23.530 it out right now. My mission is to, well, it 01:01:23.530 --> 01:01:26.690 goes back to, you know, doing my best to, to 01:01:26.690 --> 01:01:31.969 be my whole self, um, to integrate. Well, I'll 01:01:31.969 --> 01:01:34.190 tell you what's present now. Okay. I'll answer 01:01:34.190 --> 01:01:37.530 with, with, with, uh, with presence. My mission 01:01:37.530 --> 01:01:44.969 now is to, um, into is to integrate my, my sexuality. 01:01:45.550 --> 01:01:50.630 is to integrate my masculine self and my feminine 01:01:50.630 --> 01:02:00.449 self to create harmony and to redefine my definition 01:02:00.449 --> 01:02:05.889 of being a man. That's my mission now. My own 01:02:05.889 --> 01:02:10.530 definition, not what society thinks. So my mission 01:02:10.530 --> 01:02:16.940 now is to reflect on that and Yes, and to let 01:02:16.940 --> 01:02:19.940 insights come to me to receive to receive my 01:02:19.940 --> 01:02:24.579 truth To receive your truth. Yes, I got that 01:02:24.579 --> 01:02:30.639 As your last question that I'm gonna ask you 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:34.440 on the podcast This is knowing what I ask everyone 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.340 What's on your mind? In your heart and soul that 01:02:38.340 --> 01:02:41.260 you want to share with people that are listening 01:02:41.260 --> 01:02:45.809 and watching Well, I wanted to I wanted to praise 01:02:45.809 --> 01:02:48.590 you because you've been such a great host and 01:02:48.590 --> 01:02:52.150 because you've read you've read my as I said 01:02:52.150 --> 01:02:56.690 before you've read my unspoken words and you've 01:02:56.690 --> 01:02:59.769 You've rephrased things I said in a way that 01:02:59.769 --> 01:03:03.230 made it easy for me to to answer your questions 01:03:03.230 --> 01:03:06.829 And you at the same time you've challenged my 01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:12.059 my thinking my perception because you allow me 01:03:12.059 --> 01:03:16.699 to extrapolate answers and words that I haven't 01:03:16.699 --> 01:03:19.639 thought about or processed before. So just by 01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:24.559 our conversation, I'm now able to integrate some 01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.719 aspects of myself, thanks to you. So that's one 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:31.739 thing I wanted to share. And that's really meaningful 01:03:31.739 --> 01:03:35.559 to me. And I appreciate it. Absolutely. What 01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:38.800 was the question? Yeah, so really from your heart 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.719 and your soul, what's on your mind that you want 01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.380 to share with people that something that you're 01:03:44.380 --> 01:03:48.119 probably probably even dying to say, or whatever 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:51.059 is present for you right now, just to share with 01:03:51.059 --> 01:03:56.360 share my favorite quote, which is the problem 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.639 is not the problem. The problem is your attitude 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:06.420 about the problem. That's my quote. And It took 01:04:06.420 --> 01:04:10.420 me out from a depressive state a few years ago 01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:16.239 just by reflecting on that quote. So my heart 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.800 is telling me to share that because it is a quote 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:23.639 that it's up to interpretation and it can mean 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:28.019 different things to people. So I hope that everyone 01:04:28.019 --> 01:04:33.210 who just heard that quote. gets moved and feels 01:04:33.210 --> 01:04:37.210 inspired to take action in their life. Yeah, 01:04:37.969 --> 01:04:40.269 I love that, man. Thank you for that question. 01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:43.909 And before I ask the question for the audience, 01:04:44.849 --> 01:04:47.369 I got to say throughout the conversation, sometimes 01:04:47.369 --> 01:04:51.010 I know I could tell that you you're Italian, 01:04:51.070 --> 01:04:53.630 but I could tell you've been in Australia. There's 01:04:53.630 --> 01:04:55.550 a certain phrase that you would say. I was like, 01:04:55.550 --> 01:05:00.360 that sounds very Aussie. Yeah, I don't. Not being 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.860 around English people. It is fast. It is mixed. 01:05:03.980 --> 01:05:08.840 It is fast to forget English. Yeah. It's perfect, 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.199 man. We speak in Italian these days. Yeah, that's 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.340 good. It's good, though. It's good. It's pretty 01:05:14.340 --> 01:05:18.280 cool. You know, as Americans, we have different 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:23.119 dialects of English, but you can pretty much 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:27.059 tell where you're from in America or United States 01:05:27.059 --> 01:05:30.880 based on how we speak. But here's what I want 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:36.000 to say for our last question, which is for the 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.239 audience, what is one illusion or limiting belief 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:42.380 about success or purpose you've had to let go 01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:44.059 of? I want you to share that as in the comments. 01:05:44.539 --> 01:05:48.000 And as we always say, let's make thriving our 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.579 new normal. And I'll see you next time. Peace. 01:05:51.340 --> 01:05:53.260 Before you go, I just want to say thank you. 01:05:53.340 --> 01:05:54.980 Thank you for being a part of the Thrive Old 01:05:54.980 --> 01:05:57.670 Journey. 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