What's up, family? L. Michael Byrd here. And
welcome back to The Thrillball Journey. You know,
life has a way of writing stories for us. Stories
about who we should be, how far we can go, and
what's possible for us. But at some point, we
all have to ask ourselves, are we the author
of that story or just a character? What if the
story you've been living isn't really yours?
So this conversation with my brother and friend,
Celestin O 'Coryale, AKA The Urban Shaman, Reminding
me that healing doesn't begin when life gets
easier, it begins when we get honest. So Celestino
and I go deep into what it means to face your
shadows, honor your answers, and reclaim the
story your soul was meant to tell. His journey
from Hollywood to the Amazon is a mirror for
anyone ready to rise beyond the old narrative
they've been living and stepped into the authentic
leadership, purpose, and spiritual freedom. that
you have been seeking. So lean in. This one isn't
just about transformation. It's about remembering
who you truly are. Mexico. I was in Cabo. I was
staying in a fancy villa with some fancy friends.
In front of the ocean. And I was choking. In
another moment, I'll share this picture with
you. Someone took this picture of me. I was choking
in this infinity pool. And you see the ocean
in the background. So that's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing the ocean. There's an infinity pool.
There's this amazing villa behind me. It's an
amazing view. And my heart was constrained. I
was in pain. I was hurting. Like, how could I
be in this space and join such movements when
my brothers and sisters throughout the world
are in pain, are in anguish, in a war, in struggles?
And this is how the programming works. And what
did we find? I arrived at a very critical moment.
She was 17 years old. She had a very volatile
mom and dad relationship with her mom and dad,
particularly her mother. Her mother always behaved
like she was the competition, like the other
woman. This is her biological mother, it's not
the stepmother. And what happens at 17? Every
episode of The Throuble Journey is about alignment,
bridging who will be coming with how we lead,
create, and build. And today, Celestino Corleale.
Also known as the Urban Shaman, brings a master
class in that alignment. From Hollywood to the
Amazon, his story shows what happens when you
stop performing and start leaning from purpose.
Through the Ushaman method, he helps entrepreneurs,
creators, and visionaries face their shadows,
rewrite their stories, and step into authentic
power. So if you're ready to grow from the inside
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it. Yeah, man, and today we have, I mean, not
just a friend, not just a man who is wrecking
Hollywood, but he's my brother, Celestino Corneal,
man. I'm really happy to have you here. So how
are you doing? Catch me up and tell the world
what's going on with you, brother. Well, first
of all, Thank you for bringing me on your podcast,
man. I've been following you to see what you're
doing. You know, you are a transformational man
and I love this platform that you've put together
to amplify some goodness into the world and help
people truly thrive and claim their destiny.
And I'm very proud of you for doing this. So
when you asked, I was honored, you know, to come
on. It would be crazy not to have you on. I mean,
you're doing some transformational things, too,
in your world. And I really want to get the juice
of that. And I know that, man, the last time,
actually, I think the last time we talked was,
what, 2018. I think you were traveling. You were
coming from Florida. You were in your home, your
home on wheels. No, no, no. Last time we talked,
I was actually in Atlanta. Yeah. And I was filming
Fight Night. Fight Night, yes. Sam Jackson, Terrence
Howard, and Doc Cheadle, you know, to Roger P.
That was a lot of fun, Kevin Hart. And that was
a lot of fun. And I remember the exact moment
we spoke. I don't remember how it happened. It
happened in the core. But they had me in this
fancy hotel. I don't remember the name. And they
were doing these big parties, and it was loud.
And it was driving me crazy, because I'm used
to solitude, silence. And what I did is I locked
myself in the bathroom, and I filled the bathtub
with water, and I put my earphones in, and I
had candles going out deep into ritual. And somehow,
some way, you and I connected. And we hung up
on a call. And we spoke for a few hours in that
moment. Yeah. Yeah. It was so funny because you're
like, you're in all this opulence and all this,
you know, you know, Hollywoodism in Atlanta,
and you're like, Yeah, it's a lot. I gotta, I
gotta go into the water and kind of be be away
from all that, which I thought was pretty interesting,
man. It was pretty crazy. It's exactly as you
say, we think we want to think we're being called
to a thing. And then when we're experiencing
the thing, we realize, well, this is not exactly
what I imagined it would feel like, what the
aspects of it that I feel called to. And what
I've learned through my journey in acting as
a platform is that it was given to me by my ancestors
so that I could ultimately amplify the energy.
I didn't understand that when I started, but
that is the thing with all of us. We feel inspired
to pursue a thing and we think that we are pursuing
that thing because the end goal is that thing
that we feel we want. But that journey, that's
where the magic happens. And that's what the
true purpose of why we feeling called to that
thing manifests. So in that journey, like I want
to, I mean, I know a lot about you, but I don't
know a lot about you. And there's some spaces
that I'm interested in finding out. So in how
so you're you're still doing the Hollywood thing.
at that time and I'm still doing it now. You're
still, I mean, still doing it now, but at that
time, you were, where were you at when you were
still in the Hollywood space, but trying to transform,
transforming your life into this, this, this,
the Usher man, like how did that come about?
Well, you know you shaman was it means as the
urban shaman its wordplay and the you and the
shaman it also points out that you You are your
own shaman because ultimately that's what I am
sharing is that you are the shaman. Everybody
is listening. Everybody's watching. You are the
shaman. You have the ability to enter into your
being and rewrite the code and transform and
heal yourself. That is true power. I don't do
anything for anybody. I simply point the way
to your own remembrance. That's all I simply
do. And that's where the name comes from. So
where was that? has been and was an ever -evolving
journey of remembrance. And it was something
that I struggled with sharing my story, sharing
my spirituality, and merging the two. Like, how
do I do that? I struggle. How do I merge this
actor with this shaman? It's kind of weird. At
the same time that I'm feeling called to be...
more prominent in the acting world, there's a
part of me that's even called to pull away and
be a recluse, like how do I reconcile the two?
So that was a constant thing. But the exact pitiful
moment where the shift unfolded, I honestly can't
point to one as it was all unfolding, but what
I can do is I could take you back to that deep
moment of surrender, where I stopped fighting,
where I stopped struggling and surrender to the
path that I was feeling called to. And it's similar
to what we discussed when I was in all that opulence
in Atlanta. This opportunity, I was in Mexico,
I was in Cabo, I was staying in the fancy villa
with some fancy friends, in front of the ocean
and I was choking. At another moment, I'll share
this picture with you. Someone took this picture
of me. I was choking in this infinity pool. And
you see the ocean in the background. So that's
what I'm seeing. I'm seeing the ocean. I'm in
this infinity pool. There's this amazing villa
behind me. This amazing view. And my heart was
constrained. I was in pain. I was hurting. Like,
how could I be in this space enjoying such? Because
my brothers and sisters throughout the world
are in pain, are in anguish, in a war, in struggles.
And I was struggling with that and struggling
with how do I merge these two brands? And I had
nobody to talk to. So what I did is in the solitude
of my mind, I wrote a poem. And I'll read this
poem to you. Yeah. It'll make all the sense in
the world. I lay in paradise watching time go
by. Another year winds and I contemplate all
that I have accomplished, all that I have attempted
and failed, all that I must let go of, all that
I'm grateful for, the people, the experiences
that made my soul smile. 2016 marked the rebirth.
What does 2017 hold for me, I wonder? It feels
different from all the rest. Bigger, the stakes
higher, the potential greater and scarier. I
know I am strong, but I am afraid. I want to
go home. The universe tells me it will be a defining
year. No time to play small. I look for strength
within my soul. Like many before me, I have come
to share a special message. Will I succeed or
will I fail? Lose myself in granular details?
My soul gets beaten. Waves of emotion crash to
its shore. Why is there Pain? Why do we judge
and hurt each other? Tears running through a
visage of my soul, an aching of pain. But the
light in me believes it is hopeful. Dim as a
candle at a time, but always present, it lights
my way. Tells me not to lose faith, to remain
positive and focused on the message. One love
I am afraid, I say. If I write it, will someone
read it? If I design it, will someone buy the
message? Will it be received? Will it make a
difference? Does it even matter in the sands
of time? What is a water droplet to an ocean?
Is it not the ocean itself? It replies. I am
that I am. The seed of God, universal love within
your heart. You are a channel, a vessel. Step
aside and let me speak. Let me work. Speak, stay.
Speak through me. Work, I say. Work through me.
Use me. I am kind. I am able. I am infinite.
I am love. I am that I am, it says. I see clearly
now, and set sail into purpose. What will the
outcome be? Only I know it responds. Only I know
it responds. Wait a minute, I forgot. Back in
the day. Man, it's powerful, man. What brought
about that moment? This was a very pivotal moment
in my life, and I had just finished filming The
Fate of the Furious, which is very destined and
faithful for me because it was ultimately the
catalyst that moved me to pursue acting. So for
me to, let's say 10 years later, go full circle
and join the cast of The Fate of the Furious
was huge. It was a deep moment. Not only that
within itself, but it was on the back end of
this very mystical and magical random encounter
I had in Hermosa Beach where I was walking this
craft fit. I had this little Mexican woman. She
just connected with me. And she says, Quinto
eres, which means who are you? Who are you? I'm
looking at her like, who thinks she's watching
the type of shows I'm making? You know, she look
like she's walking in Telenuelas. I love you.
And then she says, I am Jamaja. No, she says,
she says, who is your mother? Tengas tu mama.
And then I'm like, all right. Now she's a little
crazy because she doesn't know my mother. Way
on the other side and I'm looking very confused
and that's when Her eyes begin to swell up and
tear up and she says I am Jimaja You are Chang
'e and tears of love and then she begins to prophesize
and Speak of a new chapter entering my life deep
transformation that I should go to Jimaja the
ocean and cleanse myself in preparation for this
journey and that my ancestors were calling me
to go to Cuba, that there was something in Cuba
for me. She said, I don't know what it is, but
they're calling you to go to Cuba. And I see
a lot of people following you, and you're teaching
a lot of people. You have a lot of God children,
she says. And a few weeks later, I get a call
from my agent. This is F. Gary Gray, wants to
see you for The Fate of the Furious. and it happens
to film in Cuba. That's, what? And ultimately
that is how I end up in Cuba doing The Fate of
the Furious. So this is when I return, actually
when I'm in Cuba, I go through, I'm there for
a few months and my dialect coach, Introduces
me to about a lot why because I'm feeling this
chango energy. I'm like my character is his son
of Chang. Changu is an orisha so he introduces
me to about a lot because he said I don't know
much about that but I know about and he takes
me to a lot which means father of secrets and
we basically do a field trip with several actors
and part of the cast of crew. And he's talking
to us about the practice, how it reached us from
the African shores to us, to the transatlantic
slave trade. And I'm just sitting back listening
to make sure this dude's legit, right? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Makes sense. And I get back in, he
does a bit of a Q &A. And I said, well, you know,
I don't have a question per se, but I feel I've
been brought here. I've been brought here for
a reason. And he says, well, I don't know. We
can ask the Oracle, which is in fact. This is,
you know, we sit in the foot of Urmila, Urmila.
In essence, what Urmila means is heaven is my
salvation. So this is an ancient practice that
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we speak to the divine and we have this connection.
This is why colonization broke down. Because
it was dangerous when they created a bureaucratic
papal system under the one world religion. To
be an intermediary between us and the divine
when all of our ancient cultures throughout the
world had direct access To the divine had this
technology to communicate with the divine And
they robbed us of that. So now what happens now
you have billions of people walking throughout
the world lost They don't understand their purpose.
They don't understand why they were born here
into this world why they've walked this earth
when our ancient system had this built in to
our very culture. That's the legacy that robbed
us. And that's what I joined. And this culminated
into a three day ceremony because the ancestors,
the divine spoke. Yes, we brought him here. And
this is when my True destiny, my true purpose
was revealed. Bam, bam, bam, bam. You were a
birth evolutionary teacher. You're here for this,
you're here for that. You've allowed distractions
to step in your way. And now the answers will
remove them from you so that you could honor
your path and you are fully aligned with your
destiny. So when I returned... my world started
falling apart. Everything that was not in alignment
started falling apart. So even though I was in
this opulent space in Kabul, this amazing villa,
and I should have been rejoicing, my spirit was
going through this transformation, this deep
calling that I was going through. Yeah. You know,
okay, first of all, that's a lot to break. We
need to break all that down, right? So let me
start with this because That moment like being
as much synchronicity as it was from meeting
The I can't say jajama, I can't say it In Mexico
to being able to just say that, you know, you're
going to Cuba. It's like synchronistic You go
through this experience Now you here like how
did that change your walk? through life Especially
in the space where things were you know kind
of you know shattering around you, but you know
you're still going through this transformation
um it was The most painful moments of my life
most transformative moment why painful because
Every time we have to shift, whether it's to
honor a calling, as I did, or just to change
professions, reinvent yourselves, as we all do,
parts of us have to literally die. And in that
death, we suffer, we grieve, and we go through
the entire grieving process. And that is what
we go through to this Walk of Enlightenment.
It is a suffering of many small humiliating deaths.
So when I returned, this amplified in my life,
and I kept suffering deaths, and the most basic
things were with the people that I had hung around
with. All of a sudden, I was an odd boy. I wasn't
laughing at the jokes. They weren't laughing
at my jokes. We didn't have commonality. We had
lost that. And the most painful aspect of that
was that it was happening between me and my wife.
This void, it just kept getting bigger. And it
terrified me because I was terribly in love.
And I saw as it's drifting, drifting further
apart, she couldn't relate to me anymore. And
that was very painful. I was just, me and Yvonne,
we were just, you know, in our Tuesday meeting
and You know, we're talking about the I'm going
through this 90 day resurgence and in that resurgence
There's a transformation that's happening and
in the transformation things things begin to
occur that will take me out of who I've been
to who I'm becoming and physically I'm still
here, but in the spiritual realm, there's things
that things are changing. I'm being challenged
in ways that the old me would have been challenged,
but the me now is being challenged because the
new me I'm becoming. And it's almost like it's
there's some pain there, right? But it's not
the it feels physical, but it's more spiritual.
And the spirit is more real than the physical.
And it's extremely painful, right? How do you,
how do you, how do you, how do you, how do you,
how do you, I guess, how do you navigate that?
And people who are experiencing that for themselves,
how do they navigate those moments when they're
transmitted? It's very thankful. Think of it
like when we watch these sci -fi. And folks go
through a war hole when they travel back in time
in this and they always feel the effect, right?
That's what we're experiencing why because we
are multi -dimensional beings and we live in
this holographic Universe and there are infinite
versions of us in all these universes So all
we're doing in this essence, if you imagine a
radio, we're tuning in to a particular station,
we call that frequency, so that we can step into
that reality. All versions of us, all possibilities
for us are ready. Everything that we feel we
desire, it already is. All we simply have to
do is tune the dial so that we can listen to
that station properly. And we have a system.
that it's in essence a divine GPS that we use
in our practices, which is what I went through
when I was in Cuba. We call it DAFA. This is
when we go before the Oracle, and basically we
do this once a month, and it is a divine GPS,
where the Oracle speaks, hey, you know this reality
that you want? You have to online like this.
How do you do it in a very practical sense? Well,
that friend that you have, that he's talking
to you about this and that, you gotta drop him.
And that opportunity that's presented to you,
that you're afraid to take it, you better take
it. And that discomfort that you're feeling,
embrace it. Because that is the fire of change.
It is transformation. It's alchemy. So that is
what I share with you in the audience. We have
to get comfortable being uncomfortable. There's
no other way. Do you know what I hear? I hear
the word shatter, right? You're shattering a
reality that you knew to be true, but maybe not
true. There's a navigation that people need to
figure out how to navigate. How do you navigate
that? That's it. The journey requires you to
go through the labyrinth of your shadow. That's
not easy to do. Most people get crushed in it
because we come in as born into a system that
subjugates us and keep us abstract. And then
you take that further, right? What I mean by
that. The first seven years of our lives, we're
receiving the program, the programming comes
to us through what? Story. We receive that story
from our parents, the institutions, but not just
that. We receive it from our parents' parents,
their parents' parents, their parents' parents.
And these are all, in essence, the dysfunction,
but also the power. But here's the trickery.
All of that gets encoded into our very own DNA.
Our body has carried this ancient wisdom. So
now, to truly claim our power, what do we have
to do? We have to face the dysfunction that lies
in our bloodline. Why is this important? Because
science tells us that 95 % of the time we are
thinking. That leaves only 5 % of our brain capabilities
for creative thought. And you know what happens
when we're thinking? The subconscious mind runs
the program. So all of these self -sabotaging
ideas... It's playing out. So even though we
want this, 95 % of the program that's running
does not serve that which we're feeling called
to. So we continue to fall into self -sabotage,
right? So you have to get to that moment where
you stand strong and you face the dysfunction
of your family and you stand there as the ambassador
of your bloodline and you say the buck stops
here with me. And when you finally do that, when
you claim your power. That is when you make changes,
not just in your life and the lives of your loved
one and the lives of the world, right? But that
is very challenging. And this is why through
the work that I've developed, I've developed
the Insha 'Allah method. And that is, in essence,
a pathway where I take you by the hand and walk
you through the labyrinth of your shadow. I walk
into every scary room with you. Can I help you
face you? Let's face your dysfunctions. Okay.
So I don't know why I said usher man. I apologize.
So, man, you know, it's okay. First of all, the
transformation from when we met in 20, whatever
it was early 22 ,000, whatever it was. to who
you are now. I mean, you're still the essence
of who you've always been, but there's an elevated
sense of who you stepped into, that person that
you stepped into. And you are serving the world
in who you're being today. And I think that's
amazing. And you talked about the three things
I got from what you just shared was generational
self -sabotage and I don't know what I wrote.
Oh, book stops here. So, generational, right?
Generational, you have all these things from
the back, past, that is in the DNA. But people,
I would say, don't necessarily, they just take
it as this is who I am, right? But there are
things that are, feed into or informs who you're
being, not only outside, but from the past that
you don't even know. And then those things can
speak to a lot of people that, you know, that
do self -sabotage, right? Can you speak on the
self -sabotage and how to actually not, number
one, notice it, and number two, acknowledge it
and deal with it so that that reoccurrence doesn't
continue to show up. One of my homies, Carl Jung.
Until you make the unconscious conscious, it
will direct your life and you will call it fate.
So all of this unconscious programming is running
95 % of the time running your life and you think
this is just the way it is. Now I spoke about
the dysfunction, these stories are being passed
out. So here's the truth. You ready for it? Give
it. The greatest gift your parents, my parents,
all of our parents gave us was their dysfunction.
Really? It is in facing this dysfunction that
we reclaim our power. This is the truth. And
I'll bring it. writing with you. I'm interested
what that what that is. Uh a woman came to me
standing for like some time. Powerful woman,
an executive woman running things in a man's
world. You feel me? This type of woman, six -figure
woman. But she came with a problem. She says,
you know, I know I'm badass. But I have a problem
with men. Particularly if I like him. I become
the doorman. They treat me like crap. And I know
I don't deserve this and I would not allow someone
I'm not romantically interested to remotely speak
to me like this. Why do I allow? I don't understand
why I keep doing this. And you know what makes
it worse? She says, so what? They're married.
So what does that make? OK. I don't know what
to do. So we got to work. I rolled up my sleeve,
and I started taking her back. And we started,
in essence, excavating, excavating all her stories
to get to the core program, that one core story.
Why is this important? Story is the technology
that humanity made that changed everything. You
see, we are, why? We are coded to live in communities
of maybe 150 people. What changed that what allowed
us to truly dominate the world is when we created
story? Story is what allows billions of people
you can be let's say Catholic billions of father.
What connects you all together? story This is
when colonizers everybody moved around the first
thing they do was erase your old stories and
Introduce you to new stories new ideologies,
right? So this is how the programming works.
And what did we find? We arrived at a very critical
moment. She was 17 years old. She had a very
volatile relationship with her mom and dad, particularly
her mother. Her mother always behaved like she
was the competition, like the other woman. And
this was her biological mother. It's not the
stepmom. And what happens at 17? Mama throws
a fit and forces daddy to choose between his
wife and his daughter. You know what God does?
I love you. But she's my wife. You have to go.
Get her out at 17. What? Really? So here's the
other part. All of our relationships, platonic
or romantic, work or personal, are mere reflections
of an internal state of being. Romantic is even
more so. In our romantic relationships, this
is where our parental dynamic, our father one,
our mother one, show up most powerfully. So,
unconsciously, that 95 % of the program was attracting
into her orbit these relational dynamic where
she was in competition with another woman, her
mother. wanting the father to choose her. So
it wasn't about these shitty men she was dating.
It was about her mother wound and her father
wound. Once we handle that, once we dug in deep
and I empowered her to rewrite her core stories,
I am proud to say she's no longer dating married
men. She no longer walks around like the doormat.
She's a boss woman in all levels of her life.
Ah shit. Yeah. Yeah. So, story, right? So, the
reoccurrence of probably what's happening in
our present life is because we're living in stories
from our past or or or what has occurred or what
we believe has occurred in the past. Uh ****
That's the the the 95 % of programming that's
running. in our conscious mind. And that, yes,
it's the stories we receive from the institutions,
our peers, emotionally our parents, their parents'
parents, it's an essence of stories that our
parents tell us, this is the way it is. This
is how you behave. You're black, you dress like
this, you behave like this, and you feel those
pressures. It's all just stories. Hey, you can't
wear that. You can't talk like that, because
you're like this. It's that identity that we're
given when we're born. This is your name. This
is your race. This is your sexual orientation.
This is this. This fictitional character that
we are given, that weighs on us as we're going
through life, trying to live up to this fictitious
idea. It's not who we are. That is the mold that
we must break. You feel me? Yeah. So do you believe
or... Or are you saying, and I can see so much
of this right now, that people are living in
a story that they believe is true, but it's just
a story that's most likely made up from birth.
Boom. It's not our story. It's somebody else's
story. It's kind of like you're born into your
family. And like, for example, me, my mother
wanted me to be an architect. All since I was
a little kid you can be an architect and you're
gonna build me a house You'd be architect build
me a house. I was like, you know that expectations.
I gotta build my mom a house I'd be an architect.
I didn't like it. I love building now. I'm a
grown man. I love building on my hands I love
picking up a hammer machete, you know, that's
the dude I am, right? Yeah, but It's a call to
be an architect. It's gonna be something else.
So I had to like self actualize and really explore
myself. And that's when I meet. It was a deep
exploration, because I'm a big mama's boy. I
come from a big family. I was raised by five
women. I was the youngest little baby. So I have
five women directing my course. And my mother
was very intrusive. I wasn't allowed to have
boundaries or anything like that or self -identity.
So it was when the universe created these...
circumstances, these desires in me in this particular
situation, I'm speaking about acting, that's
what got me away from that small town, right?
To drive cross country to California. And that
was very painful. I sobbed the entire way because
like I said, I'm a big mama's boy. Like we did
everything together to this day. My family's
together every day. They rarely meet with other
people. You know, it's like they got to cut a
birthday cake or something. You know, we're Latinos,
man. It's like 30, 40. And it's just the grandparents,
the sisters, their kids. We don't need nobody
else. Right. But when I was away from all that
is when I started exploring because my mother
couldn't find out. That's when I got that. That's
when I got the tattoos. You know, my mother couldn't
get her hands on me. I didn't have to worry.
Look behind my back, you know, over my shoulder
for my mother's chunk clock. Boy. Yeah. I got
to make my own mistakes and own it. Right. Right.
That's the good part. That's the good part. You
got to make your own mistakes and own it. And
what would... Somebody who's living in someone
else's story, but trying to create their own.
There's a disruption that has to happen, possibly.
How does one do that? That disruption? Yeah.
That disruption is rebellion. That's when we
rebel. It usually begins to happen in our teenage
years. We begin rebellion against the programming.
So as we begin rebelling, we try to explore this.
We try to do that. Our parents punish us. do
this. No, you're gonna do it this way. You're
gonna do that. You live under my roof. So, you're
gonna do this. You're gonna do that. And there's
this war. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody
can, you know, they can connect with that. We're
gonna do this war, but it is necessary. And eventually
like, you know what? Fine. I'll leave your house
and I'll go to my own place, pay my own bills,
be independent, make my own decisions, make my
mistakes. And that's all part of the process.
private process. But at that point, like it's
it's up to you because you're like you said,
you you make your mistakes and you own them and
that's you create your own story. Because you
still have the institutions. Right. The contracts,
the pressures. On another level. That are guiding
you. Whatever that is, you're you're feeling
cold. You know, there's so much that we are contending
with because of these old dated programs that
do not truly serve us. You could take that in
any capacity. You know, let's say we're talking
about individuals that is attracted to the same
sex. So they leave the mother's house, the parents'
house, because, hey, hey, you're going to live
in this house with Christians. You're not going
to be with this before I end this house. You're
just like, fine, I'm out. But the struggle doesn't
end. What does that individual want to go through
to finally come out and be at peace with that?
That struggle doesn't end. You have to face it.
But here's the truth. When we are called to a
greater vision, all of these struggles that we
go through is just tempering us so that we can
be the man, the woman that can not only step
into that reality, but sustain it. I see it.
The struggles. You're stepping into the struggles
that are tempering us. so that we can live into
our purpose and live that out. Yes. And that's
in essence the process of rebellion, the suffering,
it's small ego deaths, small humiliations. This
is what unfolds through the path. You see, enlightenment,
there's a lot of fancy words to call that out
and poetic words, but ultimately, Yes, it is
something you teach as you yourself are going
through light and what does that mean? I'm sharing
with you Mike that I haven't arrived. I'm still
going through that process. I still on the day
-to -day suffer Small humiliations and ego deaths
as I'm still being ushered in this journey I'm
still here and the other part of that is it what
is enlightenment at the end of the day? It's
deep self introspection and deconditioning self
self introspection self introspection and deep
conditioning and deep conditioning deep conditioning.
So in essence, that's what I do through the Yasham
method. I take you by the hand and I guide you
into deep self reflection. We create a blueprint
of your entire life, a graph of your story. I
incorporate technology like we do in the movie
business where we create a storyboard. for the
movie so we understand that we do that with your
story right and we point out these traumatic
moments these core wounds we i guide my clients
in creating an actual storyboard man and their
story and then we change it it we do drafts after
drafts because that's how you create your legend
that's how you do your movie and you step into
that main character energy you feel me yeah i
do it's it's good because I was out on even though
I know you I still have to do research on you
right um you talked about ego death um it's like
more than just like a psychedelic buzzword right
it's like stripping away the illusions that that
uh we built in our lives like what part of I'm
looking at my notes here uh what part of the
identity um does one have to let die in order
to really allow the purpose to emerge because
I know that you talked about, you know, you create
your story on storyboards, but what identity,
you know, do they have to let die? It's real
soon. So when I met my wife, her passion was
jury design. So I committed to help her grow
it. Did I know anything about jury design? No,
I didn't know anything about that stuff, man.
All I did is I sat down I interviewed you I interviewed
her and I said it's share with me All the aspects
of what you do that you don't like. Oh, I don't
like you know, make it a sign twice She says
I just like to create them and I wish that all
I could focus on was creating designs because
I really feel that I could make some really nice
designs if I don't have the other stresses and
I said fine I'll take away all the other stresses
so you could focus on creating your magic Remember
that 95 % program? Remember the 5 % of creative
magic? I gifted her that. That's why I gift everybody
that studies with me. So it's not of what it
is. It's when you do that deep self analysis,
where you fully confront yourself, then the path
of deconditioning is you identify the programming,
the self -sabotaging, self -limiting programming.
and you replace it with empowering ones. It's
just that simple. That simple. That simple. But
of course, it's easier said than done because
you still have the ego death of every moment,
every step of the way. And then, you know what
else you have to do, Mike? Discipline. That's
where self mastery comes in. Because it's not
just one time. Like I told you with myself, I
still go through this every day. I have to wake
up every morning. to go into my ritual state
and every moment in particular you see it's easy
like I have a practice where I have property
up in the mountains so every few weeks I'll disappear
I completely unplug and I'm in solitude I go
weeks without seeing people I might come down
that mountain once a month to get supplies in
town right it's easy that's like a monk stuff
right Well, it's easy to be a monk. You got nobody
stressing you, pissing you off up there. Nobody
spitting you off. It's easy. I can be enlightened.
Oh, look at me. I'm in Costa Rica at the beach.
I'm enlightened. Right, right. Yeah. Bring that
to town. Bring that to Spanish Harlem, where
I grew up. Bring that to LA. All this buffoonery,
all this distraction. You know, bring it there.
Right. And that's what you show me, you know,
if you really buy it. Exactly. Anybody can be
holy up in the mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And how
do you how do you bring it in to when you have
all these distractions when you have the buffoonery
and the craziness and even in your world of uh
the hollywood not all of your world but part
of your world the hollywood world um because
i you know i know it yeah of course you know
but that's what discipline comes into play you
see discipline is what bridges surrender and
flow. So when we feel that calling, we surrender
to it. We experience flow because we experience
alignment, we experience flow. And then these
distractions, these obstacles, these stuff, they
create turbulence, doubt, right? And that's when
discipline comes in. And that's what everything
you're doing in life, man. If you want to do
something when you feel like it, you'll never
do anything, right? you know, I want to have
my summer body. I'm going to the gym but today
you woke up, man. You're like, man, I don't feel
like going to the gym. That's when discipline
comes in. How bad you want that summer body to
get your butt to the gym? It's the same thing.
All around, man. There's no running from it.
All around. It's truth. That's all the truth.
That's all the truth. Um man. So, I want to talk
about, I want to talk about your uh you Shaman
method. I know like this is you you you related
to a little earlier. Um so you went basically
you went through all your processes in life and
it was like a healing process and out of that
you created the system, right? Uh the method
which is from my research here. Give me check
me if I'm wrong which is part healing, part remembering,
part spiritual engine engineering. Um What makes
it so different from the traditional coaching
or therapy? Very good. So the Yishamon pathway,
the Yishamon method is a pathway. You see, as
a teacher, all that I can do, all that we do
is share the path we've walked. So this is informed
through my own journey. These are tools and techniques
that have worked for me. That's all I can speak
on is what worked for me. I will never ask anything
of you that I don't do myself. This is the way
that works. So it is a pathway and it incorporates
all these elements. I have a degree in psychology.
So yes, there's time proven therapeutic techniques.
I'm very intuitive. I do a lot of ritual. My
whole day, my life revolves around ritual. So
I guide you in creating that. What do we do?
Core things we do. We take it to the root of
it. In a child, right? We take you to reclaim
your sexual sovereignty and address generations'
worth of shame around your sexuality and your
desires. Because that's where you claim your
power. Why? Because sexual energy is the most
powerful creative energy in the universe. And
if you go really deep into it, William Rick,
a contemporary of young Freud, wrote a fascinating
study on the matter, and it's the Mass Psychology
of Fascism. And what he deduced through his work,
his life's work, is that sexual inhibition was
necessary to establish patriarchy. It leads to
individuals that are disconnected from source
and their power, they're more docile and more
easily manipulated. And this was what strongly
put on women. This is why women face so much
slut -shaming around their desires. It was never
so before this time, but it was necessary. So
what am I saying? I'm saying that the spiritual
revolution, that the awakening revolution is
the sexual revolution. All in the same. So we
address all this stuff. And then all of my students
who study with me go to monthly DAFA. Okay, this
is the spiritual GPS. So what happens in there?
We go before the Oracle, and we take your resonant
frequency. What is your resonant frequency? This
is the sum totality of every thought you think,
every decision you have made, the stories that
have been shared with you, your ancestral stories
that have been passed down, passed down, passed
down, and we go before the Oracle. Mike, you
come sit before us. You don't have to tell me
nothing about nothing because it is not I who
speaks. We simply do the prayers. Say your name.
And if I speaks the divinity speak, God speaks
and based on your resonant frequency, what is
this? Let us break it down. The entire universe
is made up of binary codes, ones and zeros. Everything
works like that. So when we speak your name,
if I speaks to us through this binary code, it
gives us a little ones and zeros that relate
to an entire corpus of. these multi -dimensional
wisdom that as Baba Lao, we must study and learn.
This is a life of study. I am committed to a
life of study. To the moment I leave this earth,
I'm just studying. Because what is a wisdom keeper?
A wisdom keeper is a storyteller. So I have to
learn all the stories. Ifa gives us that code,
and then we reference that code to the stories.
And when we look at the stories, when we read
the poems, when we read the songs, the rituals
of recommendation, the taboos, it addresses your
Pacific concern to the point, right? So the culmination
of all of this is nothing like it, brother. Yeah,
yeah, it's like that. I am taking you by the
hand and guiding you till you can step into your
greatest destiny. The truth. Re engineering kind
of thing engineering. Yes. Yeah That is the process
that I described earlier Mm -hmm where we actually
sit and engineer This goes here this goes there
and we do that through different technologies
that I've created when I mentioned earlier was
this act of creating a storyboard for the entire
story of traumatic moments and then we very intentional
move things around Just like when we're making
a movie, man, we're making a TV show. Oh, this
scene looks better like this. Oh no, it's like
that. Let's change this, let's change that. And
we do that. So not only do we go through this
healing process, this destructive process of
everything doesn't serve, but then you know what's
built into my signature program, The Alchemy
of Ecstasy? A four week master manifesting course.
Where now, That healing that you do, we create
smart goals for you, and we literally design
your dream life blueprint. Not just that, Mike.
You know what else we do? We come up with a game
plan so that every objective that lies in your
dream board, you hit. Why? Because that is your
destiny. We are all sons and daughters of the
promise, and we deserve all of the juicy goodness
that life has to offer. Sons and daughters of
the promise. Well, out of also out of out of
your program, you we you talked about it a little
bit earlier, which was the sexual part of it.
And you're right, I think. I think it's less
now than it was before was the the pressing down
of someone's, you know, sexual sexuality and
all that good stuff. And out of that, I know
that you created the Ushima male potency, which
you wonderfully sent to me. So I don't I don't
know how long it's been. But I started taking
it and I actually have a little video that I
took at five something in the morning. So let
me let me let me show it. Let me show it to you
real quick. Let me boot it up here. And Let's
see here. Here we go. All right. So. This. So
I know so still wanting to try it. So this is
my first day of trying it and. Smells very herbaceous.
like some eggs um so it's his ushman male potency
elixir you shining i know my old man um 16 actually
20 ounces it says as a celebration of the sacred
and since sensual uh this aphrodisiac blend will
enhance the male libido oh lord have mercy and
um stimulate desire And make your logon making
an experience to remember. Take a mini spool
full two times on an empty stomach. So, I think
can we do two times at the same time? Okay. So.
That's good. Not jam, but I think it's like jam.
What's in here? Creamy honey, wild herbs, ginseng,
Baraka Ajwa dates, and nagella sativa. That's
before January 26th. Some tooth, full. Okay,
so this is new. I hope to give me an aura too
of a sensuality. So, I'm down. I guess by the
time that we record, I'll show this video. And
then I'll let you know, oh my God, sorry. Right,
yeah. Funny, right? It's really good, and I've
been taking it. And I really like it, and it's
so funny because after I took it, I completely
forgot what was about to come, which was I had
an appointment with my doctor, my foot doctor,
and she's on my radar, right? I was like, I need
this thing to work. Give me some sensuality.
But it's really good. Can you talk a little bit
about it? where it came from and what am I what
what I haven't you know did the the love making
part but um just talk about it a little bit sure
sure uh in essence what I remember you take it
twice a day uh do it ritually um and ultimately
uh you you do a small affirmation and it's like
you uh reclaiming and healing your bloodline
healing your seed and reclaiming your power Then
you take that. You do it twice a day. It's a
supplement. It's not a drug. Here's the issue.
We have now maybe 300 million men that suffer
from ED. And most of that comes from stress,
from living a story that does not serve them.
The pressures of that, they cannot perform. So
big pharma disconnected us from nature. But the
truth is that nature contains all of the healing
we need. So Big Pharma removed that from that,
did a bunch of patents so they can make money
off our healing, and then extracted the essence
of these plants and sold it back to us. When
we can just go into the backyard. That's what
our mothers used to do when we get sick, that
we go in the backyard, get the herbs and the
spices, right? And they will give us this tonic,
this drink, and it'll make us right. All of our
ancient tribes, all of ancient people have had
this to give us the edge. So this is not a pharmaceutical
drug that's going to give you the side effects.
This is a supplement. You're meant to take this
every day. And it's what I recommend is twice
a day. So you take it in the morning and at night,
twice a day. Getting that like twice at one time
like I did. You can. You could do it like that
if you want. But I recommend you just break them
up. You do that ritualistic. I promise you by
day two or three, you're waking up and your partner's
in full attention. You feel me? Your partner's
ready to go. Your partner, yeah. And it's like
that, listen. So how does it come about? I was
up in the mountains, like I told you I like to
do it. I like to seek solitude. And my sister
reached me. I have a satellite that I turned
on every night. My sister reaches me. We're talking,
chit -chatting, and she says, you know, I want
to send you something for you to try. It's medicine
for men. I said, OK, sister, go ahead and send
it to me. She sends it. But like I said, I'm
the boonies, man. For me to go to the post office,
I have to drive 45 minutes on Forest Road, dirt
roads to get to the post office. It's down by
the railroad. So I don't do that every day. So
it went a few weeks before I went down to the
post office to pick up this medicine. By the
time I arrived, you know what they told me? What's
that? They got robbed. The post office got robbed
and the windows smashed. It was a little lower.
What? They got robbed. So I never got my medicine.
I felt so embarrassed to tell my sister because
so long had passed. So I just hope that she forgot
about it, didn't mention it. I care about my
business. A couple of months later, that was
in the new year. She hits me up, and we're two
chatting again. She says, so what did you think
about that medicine I sent you? I feel horrible.
I feel embarrassed, man. I had to come clean.
I said, I procrastinate. I didn't go there in
time. By the time I made it, the place got robbed.
What? Crazy. So then she says, you know what?
Let's send it to you again. I really want you
to try this. So she sent me to Los Alamitos and
to a different address, my other home, the one
I'm in now. Boom. I finally get when I start
using. She gave me a little bit. It's been like
seven days worth. You know what I did at the
end of seven days? What's that? What every man
that I strive this does. How can I get some more
of this man? Come on, man. I need some more.
I need some more. I told her back like an adult
being like, I'm like your boy's sis, what's up
with this? I feel like I'm killing my man. She
said, oh, it worked. I said, yeah. So then she
says, your uncle makes that. I said, uncle? And
then she told me the whole story. So then I got
with my uncle, and what I did is I worked more
deeply with the formula. and I added the dates
to add the protection to it. So I changed the
texture to taste. So it's even more potent. And
ultimately what we've done is, you know, I do
list some of the products like you mentioned
on the bottle, but the true power comes from
what I call a proprietary blend of roots, herbs,
and botanicals, right? Yeah, that's right there,
like boom. This thing will ignite your fire.
This thing will awaken the alpha within you.
It really gives you this. And here's the thing.
It will give you greater focus. Because when
you connect with that source energy, you go into
what Napoleon Hill calls genius state. So it
gives you focus. So like you're saying, Oh, I
haven't had the time to, uh, uh, you know, engage
in lovemaking and really testing. I know you're
already doing that because you're getting that
hyper focus that energy and you're channeling
it into your creative endeavors. So you're getting
that it's going to serve you for your workouts.
And I'm telling you when you finally get to swing
that the right individual. Look at me. Hey, listen.
You're a Hulk now. So when you run out, guess
what you're gonna do? You're gonna come back.
Can I get some more big guns? Yo, Salisbino.
Run. Run. I mean, leave me alone, man. Leave
me alone. All right. Get your hand out of my
pocket. Right. Oh, my God. That's funny. But
yeah, man, this is, it's really, it's really,
thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you. And
you know what, man? For all you listeners and
stuff, we'll do something special. You and I
will rap about it, but maybe, you know, some
type of code or something so they get a discount
and they get to try the magic themselves, because
I know they hear us talking. They're like, I'm
going to get some of that. I'm going to get some
of that. I want some of that. We're going to
hook them up. Want to hook them up? I love it,
man. I love it. We're gonna hook him up. Um,
so again, thanks for that. And I want to talk
about a little bit. We're running on the hour.
So we like to try to keep it within an hour.
But um, how do you keep yourself like so not
everyone who was gifted is grounded, right? And
not everyone who's grounded is guided. And you
have exemplified that um how how do you keep
yourself energetically clean and grounded um
when you you know you're holding space for others
and you have a career that you walk in and you
have to be this grounded energetic person. How
do you do that? I **** I **** I do that by walking
my truth. What does that mean by that? It means
that I drink my own medicine. and not just the
elixir. So I wake up every day, give you an example,
I wake up every day, I spend a lot of time in
solitude. And I recommend everyone do that, not
just physical solitude where I go away in the
mountains, but when I wake up in my morning and
I drink my mushroom coffee, I sit in solitude
in a state of deep self -reflection and contemplation.
Spend that moment sacred. No one's allowed to
disturb me. Phones are off, everything's off.
You cannot reach me. I'm in my space. And then
what happens? I walk into my office, my home
studio here. I sit. My desk is here. It's right
in front of me. Guess what's right next to me?
My altar. So before I sit down at my desk, I
stand before my altar. I annoyed myself by praying
to the ancestors of the Gidesha, the divine.
And I asked for strength. to clear away any energy
that does not serve the moment, that does not
serve the camera, perhaps disrupt my objectives
of the day. And then, only then, do I sit at
my desk and get to work. This is a constant practice.
Solitude is key. If your listeners at the end,
they're like, you know, I'm not into all that
bulls**t. I'm not into this. This is what you
do, man. You sit inside. A lot of people say
I struggle with meditation and stuff like that,
but listen, you create a practice of sitting
for 30 to 60 minutes a day in silence and magic
happens. All right? It truly does. I'll give
you a perfect example. That's not a silent salad.
What you do is when you have a problem, when
you have something you're trying to solve, amplify,
expand, hold it, and then just go into silence.
Just focus in your breath. Every time you feel
your breath, your mind running this way or that
way, just go back to a breath. You want to go
to a point. And the breath is so beautiful because
we're always breathing. We're alive, we're breathing.
So it's something to focus. It's kind of like
when you are trying to concentrate with your
eyes open, you just find a fixed point. When
you go like, say, in hypnosis, they guide you,
look at the point of my pen. Look at that point.
That's all it is. You just need to focus on a
particular point. So the breath is something
really nice. Let's take for example, if you go
out in nature, I recommend that one really good.
And it's real simple. So this is what you do,
right? You go out in the backyard or something,
right? And then what I want you and your listeners
to do as a practice is to identify five different
sensations, right? Let's say the air you feel
in your skin, right? The sun. The grasp needs
you, right? You identify five different stimuli.
And you breathe, and you just go from one stimuli
to the next. And then, after sitting with that
moment, you take the five down to the four. And
you follow, go from one to the other, all four.
And then you take the four to the three. And
you go from one, two, three. And then you take
it to the two, and you finally arrive to the
one. And by the time you arrive to the one, you
sit with the one, this breeze, your entire body
will shift. And somewhere around 25, 30 minutes,
your mind will fall completely still. That's
when you feel that downshift. And just like magic,
bam! The answer will come. The idea will come.
Because we are never alone. That's the truth
of it, Mike. All we have to do is slow down,
sit in silence, and listen to that voice within
us. It's always coming. All of this noise in
the city is just drowning it out. So we have
to create these sacred moments. I call it a sacred
pause, and I recommend you and everybody just
listen and do it. When we're feeling the stress,
just take a sacred moment. And when you're really
trying to work, sit with it for 30 minutes or
an hour. It's going to allow the magic to unfold.
Do you feel it? I see. Sacred pauses. Actually,
there's a lot of power in silence. I actually
had a question about that. There's a lot of power
in the silence. And let's see. Since I have it,
let me see if I can find it. It's hard for people
to sit in silence, especially with all the noise
from social media to just life in general. They
may be dealing with a lot of things at home.
For you, you get to go to a mountain for somebody
who is on the mainland. What do you what do you
recommend for them to do to get in that space?
Where they get to be silence? That's it. Uh first
thing is that it's it's it's it's not random.
It is designed this way. Design. Okay. Over stimulated
on purpose. Mm hmm. Even now we wake up. We scroll
through some TNA, through the bombing in Iraq.
We're overstimulated. There's so much going on.
There's always a screen showing us we're not
built for that, man. So the way we rebel against
this system is to seek solitude. You don't have
the mountain flying, but you're going to take
your sacred pause. And you create moments. Here's
a practice that I have, and I recommend that
everyone else in the field call to it to join.
In my truck, I have a Palo Santo stick hanging
from my rear -view mirror. So when I step into
my vehicle, what do most people do when they
step into the vehicle? Boom, boom, boom. And
they head out. I don't do that, man. I step into
my vehicle, take a sacred pause. I like the Palo
Santo. And I set the intention. You know, and
I pray. I just do it for a moment of contemplation.
Because if you're a boy, they're going to try
and take out from you any obstacles in the way
of being moved. What does that mean, that nothing
ever happens to me? Absolutely not. But I promise
you that those practices will keep me grounded.
When that fool cuts me off in the highway, it's
going to be chasing him down and snatching him
out the car. You know, I take that pause. You
know, I feel this. I'm human. So yes, sometimes
you know all these fools. If I did not create
these moments of reflection of ritual throughout
my day, I will pop off. Understand that that
other side of me will react. And you know what
that other side is? It's my wounded inner child.
It wants to be first, it feels triggered. What
did you say to me? Oh, you think you're better?
You know, that's your one -ended child. So that's
also part of the work. So whatever circumstance
happens, and I take that pause, yeah, it allows
me to release, but it doesn't stop there, because
then when I get home, I have to sit with that,
right? When I really have time to do something,
what part of me was she really triggered about?
Because remember, everything's a reflection.
So what was that? Oh, because it reminded me
of when I was five years old and this was done.
This person spoke to me like that and it hurt
me so bad. Oh, so then you know what I do? I
shower myself with love and compassion. That's
how you do it, Mike. Because the truth is that
sometimes we're too hard on ourselves. What if
a friend calls you stressed out, going through
some stuff? You'd be like, man, take a deep breath.
It's going to work out for you. This is what
you do. And man, you're being too hard on yourself.
You know, you talk to them like that. If your
lover came to you, even more so, you're like,
baby, listen, I got you. It's going to be good,
you know. So learn to speak to yourself like
that. Not harshly. And unfortunately, most of
us speak to ourselves very harshly. And that's
when I ask you to pause and ask yourself, whose
voice is this? This is the voice that's being
used when you were punished, remember? You don't
want to look at us the same way. Yeah. Right?
No, no, no. That's all we do, man. You got to
take that pause. You got to shower yourself with
love and compassion. And that in itself is a
journey that I take my students through, through
ritual baths, self -love rituals, you know, so
that we can rekindle that love affair with the
lover within. That's the one that counts. Have
a love affair with yourself. Ah, shit. Maybe
that will bring love towards the people in their
atmosphere, in their environment, more so. Ah,
shit. You hit something very powerful, man. You
see, many people walk around looking for love,
and then they get disappointed. All men are like
this. All women are like this. I never meet no
men. Forget all that. my brother, my sister,
focus on yourself. Do the work. It's all about
alignment. You focus on the work and naturally
you will begin attracting individuals that are
in an energetic alignment with that truth of
you. If you don't do the work, you know what's
gonna happen is that that individual that you're
like, oh, that's the type of man or woman I want
is gonna step into your orbit. you're gonna find
him boring you're gonna find him this or that
because you yourself are not in alignment with
what you say you want man you still with the
buffoonery you still think about the bad boy
that worked you out that's funny but it's true
but it's true it's true um man i think that a
lot of people can learn from you um and I want
people to connect with you. What's the best way
for people to get to learn about the Ushamin
tribe? Is it a tribe? I called it a tribe. I
said you're a tribe. You see, I believe in purpose.
I believe in mission. And this was crystallized
in that moment where I was in Baja, Mexico. in
Cabo, Cabo, Mexico, in that villa. And that is
my purpose crystallized. And it is to inspire
and empower all of my relations to heal, to rise
and claim their greatest destiny. You walk that
way. Especially when I saw when I saw you when
you were when you were filming here in Atlanta.
I like these dudes. It's the whole the whole
energy aura had just elevated like you had a
high one. But I mean, it went to a whole nother
level. So ultimately, that is it. And it is a
try, because I believe that we're all brothers
and sisters, one big try. So you are absolutely
correct. How can you get in touch with me? Youshaman
.com. You, as an uncle, and shaman .com. Youshaman
.com. Youshaman .com. Y 'all, I mean, all the
listeners and watchers, I mean, if this spoken
to you, I want to find out what part of Celestino's
journey resonated with your story and what belief
are you ready to let go of? You know, drop your
comments in below. And I just got to say, man,
I have people on the podcast, you know, that
I that you know, they bring their greatness to
the podcast, but I don't I don't necessarily
know them. I get to know them in a moment. But
I've known you for years. And to have you on
the show, the podcast, I mean, it's, first of
all, it's a great honor. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. But I can do it. I can sit here and
we could continue. We continue this all for another
at least another hour. I have so much we could
talk about, man. But, you know, maybe uh schedule
permitting will bring you back um for a part
two because I think there's so much more more
deeper that we can go and I think just this is
just hitting the surface and um I think we can
do some more so thank you thank you thank you
brother for being here on the podcast I appreciate
you I am honored and I am grateful and I would
be happy to return And as we always say, let's
make thriving our new normal. I'll see you next
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