WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.399 There's so many angles and venues to be able 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.660 to go into the healing part and the healing part 00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:11.240 usually is As a you know as a human being and 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.960 as a baby we come to this world taking things 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.199 And finding our own identity and creating our 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.399 own identity based on you know, not only our 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:25.179 genetics but also our environment which is our 00:00:25.179 --> 00:00:27.760 parents and how they were with us our siblings 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.530 are our neighborhood, our community, the culture 00:00:31.530 --> 00:00:35.250 we were raised in. So the bad news and the good 00:00:35.250 --> 00:00:38.929 news is you can't run away from that part. No. 00:00:39.509 --> 00:00:42.369 No. You're running and running and running in 00:00:42.369 --> 00:00:44.530 a circle. Yeah. So the bad news is you can't 00:00:44.530 --> 00:00:47.350 get away. The good news is you can't get away. 00:00:47.409 --> 00:00:51.390 And it does allow you to go back and bring them 00:00:51.390 --> 00:00:54.750 in. Bring them in from a whole different place. 00:00:54.850 --> 00:00:59.170 Because in that place, as I said, We were left 00:00:59.170 --> 00:01:06.049 with powerlessness. And it's true, like how much 00:01:06.049 --> 00:01:07.810 power does a two -year -old or a three -year 00:01:07.810 --> 00:01:09.670 -old or a five -year -old have? I mean, we have 00:01:09.670 --> 00:01:13.030 power as much as our age and circumstances. It's 00:01:13.030 --> 00:01:16.750 the skills. And if we weren't taught those skills 00:01:16.750 --> 00:01:20.530 as part of how we were growing up, we wouldn't 00:01:20.530 --> 00:01:24.450 have it. You know, if parents really learned 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:27.840 the skills... of really becoming aware of themselves, 00:01:28.219 --> 00:01:30.400 clean up what happened to them as they grew up, 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.359 while they're going, you know, they're working 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.879 with the next generation, a lot of the, you know, 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.219 multi -generational traumas would stop. What 00:01:40.219 --> 00:01:42.640 if you could rewire your mind and improve your 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.939 mental well -being by 70 %? In this episode of 00:01:45.939 --> 00:01:47.879 The Thraw World Journey, I sit down with Dr. 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.540 Fujian Zheng, psychotherapist, international 00:01:50.540 --> 00:01:52.640 speaker, and creator of awareness integration 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.219 theory. For over 30 years, she's been helping 00:01:55.219 --> 00:01:58.159 people break free from anxiety, build confidence, 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.560 and step into their true purpose. We talk about 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:03.239 awareness, emotional intelligence, and how her 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.439 groundbreaking Fuzhan app is reshaping the future 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.159 of mental health. If you're ready for more clarity, 00:02:09.659 --> 00:02:12.699 purpose, and a fresh way to thrive, this is a 00:02:12.699 --> 00:02:15.539 conversation you don't want to miss. Hey there. 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.479 Look, my hope is that the Thravo journey meets 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:21.960 you exactly where you are and helps you rise 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.400 into who you're here to be. It's 2025 and this 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.360 is your year to thrive despite what the world 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.840 is throwing at us. 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And when Yvonne and I got your 00:03:34.539 --> 00:03:36.759 information and was looking up, I'm so excited 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:41.419 to talk to you. And I started to go and meet 00:03:41.419 --> 00:03:46.060 Mira. Is it Mira or Mira? Mira. Mira, we'll talk 00:03:46.060 --> 00:03:48.599 about her later, but so that we can kind of get 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:51.900 the world of who you are. And before we dive 00:03:51.900 --> 00:03:55.460 into the method and everything, I'd love to ask 00:03:55.460 --> 00:03:59.039 you, like, when was the last time you felt completely 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.819 aligned with your purpose? And what did that 00:04:01.819 --> 00:04:07.379 moment teach you about yourself? I can say the 00:04:07.379 --> 00:04:10.560 minute that I decided to become a psychotherapist 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:18.000 and You know, it was more like I went to school. 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.500 I did everything. I said, you know, when I was 00:04:20.500 --> 00:04:23.779 about 16, I said, I'm going to be by the age 00:04:23.779 --> 00:04:27.040 of 30. I'm going to have my own business. I'm 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.600 going to own my home. I'm going to be married 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:37.399 and I'm going to be happy. By age 28, I got my 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.279 home. I was married. I bought my home and I had 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:45.459 my first business. I was unhappy. So, if that 00:04:45.459 --> 00:04:48.899 took me to a lot of the self -growth seminars, 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.959 right, like Tony Robbins, Landmark, a lot of 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.740 these amazing courses, and I started really working 00:04:54.740 --> 00:04:57.819 on myself, and I started looking at the deep, 00:04:57.819 --> 00:05:01.019 deep concepts that there was so much there of 00:05:01.019 --> 00:05:04.000 my childhood era, things that were very much 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.139 unfinished that they kept coming. And just I've 00:05:07.139 --> 00:05:09.259 learned how to survive. I just never learned 00:05:09.259 --> 00:05:12.459 how to live and thrive and then just live and 00:05:12.459 --> 00:05:15.319 enjoy and hold and gratitude. So no matter what 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.759 I did, the anxiety would be there. It would follow 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.519 me. And then it didn't matter how much I achieved 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:27.220 exactly what I said I go into. So supposedly 00:05:27.220 --> 00:05:30.689 now I should feel satisfied. It just wasn't. 00:05:30.750 --> 00:05:32.670 It was like, what's next? What's next? What if 00:05:32.670 --> 00:05:34.769 this is not it? What if this is taken away from 00:05:34.769 --> 00:05:37.990 me? What if, you know, I need more? And it was 00:05:37.990 --> 00:05:40.970 this concept that took me into the seminars and 00:05:40.970 --> 00:05:44.870 then from there, because I wanted to work deeper 00:05:44.870 --> 00:05:48.009 for myself, I went and started going to psychotherapy. 00:05:48.430 --> 00:05:51.949 And then I fell in love with this concept of 00:05:51.949 --> 00:05:54.189 learning about ourselves, because our mind, they're 00:05:54.189 --> 00:05:58.540 just fascinating. So starting to learn about 00:05:58.540 --> 00:06:01.220 that and then heal myself. And as people were 00:06:01.220 --> 00:06:05.379 coming to me to see this beauty of healing happening, 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:09.560 this was like, this is it. This is my mission. 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.639 My mission is to make a difference in people's 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.860 lives in a way that is beneficial for them and 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:21.579 to create a space for them so that they can learn. 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:24.300 how much they're responsible for their happiness, 00:06:24.540 --> 00:06:27.300 and they deserve to be joyous and happy. And 00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:29.899 there is a way to do that. Like, no matter how 00:06:29.899 --> 00:06:33.420 the outside circumstances are, there is a way 00:06:33.420 --> 00:06:36.779 that we could create joy and happiness and gratitude 00:06:36.779 --> 00:06:40.740 for ourselves as we move forward and create the 00:06:40.740 --> 00:06:44.740 success tangibly. But more than anything, Michael, 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.779 feel the success because so many people tangibly 00:06:48.779 --> 00:06:52.180 create the success. But they don't experience 00:06:52.180 --> 00:06:58.399 it. There is a difference. When you made that 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:02.259 shift for yourself, what was it? Was it like 00:07:02.259 --> 00:07:05.399 just a moment? Was it a situation that happened? 00:07:06.019 --> 00:07:08.819 Were you like, okay, I have all this that I said 00:07:08.819 --> 00:07:11.319 I'm going to have by this date or this time, 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:14.399 but I'm not happy. Was there a moment that says, 00:07:14.420 --> 00:07:18.879 okay, I need to go find myself somewhere in something 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.160 else so that I can be happy? Yeah, it was the 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.459 moment of achieving it. Because you're always 00:07:23.459 --> 00:07:26.319 thinking, okay, I'm not happy until I achieve 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.139 this. I'm not happy until I make this much money. 00:07:29.220 --> 00:07:31.620 I'm not happy until I'm married to the person 00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:34.000 who I said I want to. I'm not happy until I have 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.560 my first business or I have my home. So when 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.060 you start gaining those and then you're like, 00:07:39.220 --> 00:07:41.819 well, I'm still not happy. So what's gonna make 00:07:41.819 --> 00:07:44.560 me happy and it's like at one point it's pointless. 00:07:44.779 --> 00:07:47.019 Okay How many other goals can I put in front 00:07:47.019 --> 00:07:49.839 of me and do? Everything so that I can achieve 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.360 it and then get to the same place that I am here 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:56.439 now So the moment that I saw that I'm not I gained 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.800 everything I said I will you know, I used to 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.180 write down like by this time I'm gonna gain this 00:08:01.180 --> 00:08:03.620 right like you create a smart goal, right? We 00:08:03.620 --> 00:08:07.139 all learn how to envision the goal write it down 00:08:07.139 --> 00:08:10.810 put it down create them ways to get there and 00:08:10.810 --> 00:08:12.350 then you want to get there, and then you get 00:08:12.350 --> 00:08:15.870 there. And every angle of that goal is done except 00:08:15.870 --> 00:08:18.649 the fulfillment that you feel about life. And 00:08:18.649 --> 00:08:20.970 then that moment was like, okay, this path isn't 00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:23.829 working. And the path that other people told 00:08:23.829 --> 00:08:26.129 me, you know, only if you did your education, 00:08:26.329 --> 00:08:29.230 only if you did these things, you will be happy. 00:08:29.569 --> 00:08:32.450 Well, that didn't work out. So although I wanted 00:08:32.450 --> 00:08:35.350 to take role modeling from other people, but 00:08:35.350 --> 00:08:38.659 I also had to find what makes me happy. And part 00:08:38.659 --> 00:08:42.320 of what I needed to do was to change my frame 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:47.679 of mind about what life looked like, what struggles 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.980 look like, what feelings were, where thoughts 00:08:50.980 --> 00:08:53.539 were, what belief systems were holding me back 00:08:53.539 --> 00:08:56.360 regardless, what things from the past I was holding 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.379 back and not knowing how to let them go, which 00:08:59.379 --> 00:09:03.230 even though I was trying to get ahead, But it 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:05.570 kept coming and sabotaging me. It kept coming 00:09:05.570 --> 00:09:08.669 in, you know, shifting my mood and holding me 00:09:08.669 --> 00:09:11.990 down. What patterns from outs of, you know, subconscious 00:09:11.990 --> 00:09:15.370 patterns I was holding that although I was married, 00:09:15.909 --> 00:09:17.789 but something would come in and sabotage that 00:09:17.789 --> 00:09:21.090 marriage or my behaviors. And, you know, I wouldn't 00:09:21.090 --> 00:09:24.289 see that I had a cause at this and that I could 00:09:24.289 --> 00:09:26.090 change this. You know, sometimes you're like, 00:09:26.169 --> 00:09:28.830 OK, life is given to me and I'm a victim of it. 00:09:29.529 --> 00:09:32.980 Or life. Yeah, life. is life, it happens. And 00:09:32.980 --> 00:09:35.360 I can think about how to co -create mine within 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.879 it. So I think if you say, was there a moment 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.679 as like, yeah, the moment was I received everything 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.740 I said, and then I'm like, okay, I'm not happy. 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.639 And then the happiness showed up in the connection 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:53.159 of me to me and the connection of me to human 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.000 beings, other people who we sat together, and 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.879 I saw them connecting with the best side of themselves. 00:09:59.019 --> 00:10:01.840 And then it was like, You know, this is it like 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.700 this is this is the most amazing Place to be 00:10:05.700 --> 00:10:08.240 where you get to connect with yourself and you 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.559 get to be with other people who are also Connecting 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.279 with the best of them. Yes, and you're talking 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:23.120 about community Yes community. Yeah when You 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.940 okay, so you you were Um, you went to landmark 00:10:26.940 --> 00:10:30.080 or, and you went to, and, and, uh, 20, 20 Robbins. 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.500 So, so first of all, just full disclosure, I 00:10:33.500 --> 00:10:36.419 did, I did, or do still do landmark. And I think 00:10:36.419 --> 00:10:40.159 it's a very powerful, um, self awareness kind 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.799 of thing. Um, you did these wonderful things. 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:47.080 Um, do you, what, where did that help you in 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:51.330 your awareness of what you needed next? I think 00:10:51.330 --> 00:10:55.870 Landmark really opened my eyes to different paradigms 00:10:55.870 --> 00:10:59.529 and really a sense of responsibility, where before 00:10:59.529 --> 00:11:02.070 this concept of, you know, I'm doomed and, you 00:11:02.070 --> 00:11:04.769 know, I'm always having a reaction to the outside 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:06.929 world and somehow, you know, it's the outside 00:11:06.929 --> 00:11:10.970 world that is doing it. I think the frame that 00:11:10.970 --> 00:11:14.669 Landmark brings in, how your perception and how 00:11:14.669 --> 00:11:17.149 you change that with there's an event and then 00:11:17.149 --> 00:11:19.200 those perceptions that you have. And I think 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.840 as I went along, you know, not only like forum 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.759 and advanced, but I went into the higher levels 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.139 of, you know, the wisdom courses and many of 00:11:27.139 --> 00:11:31.200 those courses. It's truly a shift of paradigm, 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.379 completely a shift of paradigm on how we look 00:11:35.379 --> 00:11:38.440 at matters and things that are happening. And 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:42.799 I think each course just brought such an openness 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:48.039 for me and an acceptance for me. That I, you 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.860 know, I'm very indebted and I think it's, you 00:11:50.860 --> 00:11:53.279 know, I recommend for anybody to go and really 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:57.460 experience that. So, it does have its, its opening, 00:11:57.460 --> 00:11:59.639 but it's a group work, you know, and a lot of 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.720 times the level of a community that you create, 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:03.659 some of my best friends still come, you know, 00:12:03.740 --> 00:12:06.299 we went through these journeys together. So, 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.159 so my best friend came from these kind of community 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.620 and we create the same kind of language and understand 00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:15.409 and move forward. I needed something deeper than 00:12:15.409 --> 00:12:17.990 that. So obviously I went to psychotherapy and 00:12:17.990 --> 00:12:21.009 I looked at deeper work and a little bit more 00:12:21.009 --> 00:12:24.909 individualized work. But I think that any of 00:12:24.909 --> 00:12:29.570 the self -progress courses that we go, it gives 00:12:29.570 --> 00:12:32.049 us another level of opening. And I think group 00:12:32.049 --> 00:12:34.169 work gives us another level of opening because 00:12:34.169 --> 00:12:36.789 it isn't just what you bring, but you really 00:12:36.789 --> 00:12:40.110 share the concept of humanity and you accept 00:12:40.110 --> 00:12:42.899 yourself because you watch other people share 00:12:42.899 --> 00:12:46.039 angles of their life where they shared with you 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.539 and you feel the same way or some of the angles 00:12:48.539 --> 00:12:50.799 where you weren't looking, you know, it was like 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.519 a blind spot for you. And in the groups, when 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:57.039 people are sharing about their concepts, it also 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:59.299 sheds a light from a part of you that it was 00:12:59.299 --> 00:13:01.980 a blind spot and you didn't see it. So I think 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:05.000 there's such a value in this type of work, which 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.710 we do as a community together. Yeah. So you made 00:13:08.710 --> 00:13:12.289 that shift. So when did you start with psychotherapy? 00:13:13.690 --> 00:13:16.230 I started side by side. Like, you know, the first 00:13:16.230 --> 00:13:19.129 year that I went into all of these courses, then 00:13:19.129 --> 00:13:25.090 I started going to psychotherapy. And then immediately, 00:13:25.350 --> 00:13:28.129 like within six months of psychotherapy, I went 00:13:28.129 --> 00:13:30.649 back to graduate school to become a psychotherapist. 00:13:32.269 --> 00:13:35.669 But the journey continues. Yeah, I don't think 00:13:35.669 --> 00:13:37.990 that I've been a psychotherapist for 32 years. 00:13:38.190 --> 00:13:41.490 I can tell you the journey of self recovery and 00:13:41.490 --> 00:13:45.210 self, you know, actualization is a day by day 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:47.549 concept. I don't think there's any day that I 00:13:47.549 --> 00:13:50.190 stopped looking at what's going on with me. It's 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:55.230 fascinating in there. What is psychotherapy? 00:13:55.529 --> 00:13:58.070 So for people that don't know that really don't 00:13:58.070 --> 00:14:01.870 understand what it is, what is Sure psychotherapy 00:14:01.870 --> 00:14:04.610 is I mean obviously different theories that you 00:14:04.610 --> 00:14:08.570 know look at different angles of things and the 00:14:08.570 --> 00:14:11.169 concept of it itself is that when you are sitting 00:14:11.169 --> 00:14:15.549 with someone who is with you with the utter level 00:14:15.549 --> 00:14:18.789 of love and acceptance and really allows you 00:14:18.789 --> 00:14:22.049 to see yourself within those lights and so the 00:14:22.049 --> 00:14:25.309 context of psychotherapy is love and acceptance 00:14:25.309 --> 00:14:29.129 of someone who is not part of your family, but 00:14:29.129 --> 00:14:32.549 there's nothing personal there, but they're watching 00:14:32.549 --> 00:14:35.409 you and holding you and in this space of healing. 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:38.250 And then depending on what theory the people 00:14:38.250 --> 00:14:41.470 are using, some theories say that you change 00:14:41.470 --> 00:14:44.110 your thought processes and your emotions will 00:14:44.110 --> 00:14:47.289 change and behavior. Emotional theories say you 00:14:47.289 --> 00:14:50.350 focus on your emotions, name them, release them, 00:14:50.409 --> 00:14:53.190 and then you look at the thought and the behaviors 00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:57.220 they change. Some behavior... therapy says you 00:14:57.220 --> 00:15:00.360 change your behaviors and with that thought and 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:04.360 emotions change mind body changes your body structure 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.600 and all of that changes trauma work you know 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:10.940 does that so there's so many angles and venues 00:15:10.940 --> 00:15:14.779 to be able to go into the healing part and the 00:15:14.779 --> 00:15:18.639 healing part usually is as a you know as a human 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.740 being and as a baby we come to this world taking 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:26.460 things and finding our own identity and creating 00:15:26.460 --> 00:15:29.679 our own identity based on, you know, not only 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.200 our genetics, but also our environment, which 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.820 is our parents and how they were with us, our 00:15:35.820 --> 00:15:39.620 siblings, our neighborhood, our community, the 00:15:39.620 --> 00:15:43.299 culture we were raised in. So we form our identity 00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:46.240 from there. And some of this, you know, and as 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.799 we move along, we have perceptions about things 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:53.669 and we build this kind of a storyline which is 00:15:53.669 --> 00:15:57.590 very personal storyline based on what we receive. 00:15:58.269 --> 00:16:02.090 So even in twin studies, if they were exactly 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:06.269 from the same parents, same genes, being in the 00:16:06.269 --> 00:16:08.950 same environment, same culture, you could see 00:16:08.950 --> 00:16:11.629 that still the narrative and the story that someone 00:16:11.629 --> 00:16:14.230 creates for themselves is different from the 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:18.220 other. So each person has a beautiful... narrative 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:20.740 of the story of who they are and who the world 00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:24.360 and how the world is for them that they operate 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:27.899 by. And, you know, if it works for them, awesome. 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.340 But there's a lot of these belief systems that 00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:33.019 get created and were perceived based on assumptions 00:16:33.019 --> 00:16:35.679 that we have that are not workable, but we're 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:39.279 kind of like, hold on to them. And maybe it was 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.100 working for a two -year -old or a five -year 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:43.399 -old. It just doesn't work anymore for a 40 or 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.240 50 -year -old. And it has to be upgraded. But 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:48.620 there's so much in the subconscious that would 00:16:48.620 --> 00:16:51.080 just act out without necessarily knowing where 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.279 these belief systems are coming. So part of psychotherapy 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.139 and some forms of psychotherapy is to actually 00:16:57.139 --> 00:17:00.460 go and bring up some of these belief systems. 00:17:00.620 --> 00:17:02.879 Where does it come from? How did you gain them? 00:17:03.070 --> 00:17:05.410 if there were traumas to let them go and kind 00:17:05.410 --> 00:17:07.509 of like assess whether those beliefs are still 00:17:07.509 --> 00:17:11.069 working for you or not and then build skills. 00:17:11.509 --> 00:17:13.990 So areas that you don't have skills of how to 00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:16.309 be with yourself or how to communicate, how to 00:17:16.309 --> 00:17:19.269 negotiate and do that and then those also gets 00:17:19.269 --> 00:17:21.789 you know given to you or at least led you to 00:17:21.789 --> 00:17:23.450 where is it that you need to get because you 00:17:23.450 --> 00:17:27.150 don't know how. So as I went through different 00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:29.470 learning different theories all these years and 00:17:29.470 --> 00:17:32.660 practicing them with my clients I looked at what 00:17:32.660 --> 00:17:34.799 each one of these theories had, which was the 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.059 best, like the golden nugget of each, and somewhere 00:17:38.059 --> 00:17:40.500 where one had a limitation, the other one came 00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:44.920 in and I kind of fulfilled it. So based on that, 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.319 anything that I had ever learned, I had ever 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.900 learned from, you know, Tony and Landmark and 00:17:50.900 --> 00:17:53.059 every single theory, you know, cognitive theory, 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.700 emotional theories, behavioral theories, trauma 00:17:55.700 --> 00:17:58.920 -informed theories, hypnosis, all of those, as 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.089 I brought them into the sessions, Then it was 00:18:02.089 --> 00:18:04.990 like, oh, I created like a structure that was 00:18:04.990 --> 00:18:07.630 just doing things more faster and more efficient 00:18:07.630 --> 00:18:10.470 because I was taking the best of what the theories 00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:12.410 were out there and kind of, you know, connecting 00:18:12.410 --> 00:18:15.509 them together where I saw it fit. And it just 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:19.329 kind of like, it elevated that theory to the 00:18:19.329 --> 00:18:22.769 next level. And that's how the birth of awareness 00:18:22.769 --> 00:18:25.730 integration theory showed up from practicing 00:18:25.730 --> 00:18:28.910 a lot of these years with everything that I had 00:18:28.910 --> 00:18:32.059 learned. and then I taught them to my other therapists 00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:35.200 who were working with me. I had an agency where 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:38.119 I used to train therapists and I still I train 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.960 therapists for their elective residency, like, 00:18:42.059 --> 00:18:44.079 for them to get their hours for their board exams. 00:18:44.299 --> 00:18:46.799 And then I taught them and they started working 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:48.940 with their clients. And that's how, you know, 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.099 then we started doing research and seeing, you 00:18:51.099 --> 00:18:54.859 know, what the numbers were. And that's how the 00:18:54.859 --> 00:18:57.819 AIT got formed. It was born and kind of started 00:18:57.819 --> 00:19:01.079 working. And then we did this on a self -help 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.579 because I wrote a self -help book, Life Reset. 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:10.160 And then two of my colleagues in California State 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.839 University, Long Beach, they decided, oh, this 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.880 is self -help, so let's create a program. We 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.519 created a program for four of their. Courses 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:20.700 where they could just offer it to their students 00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:23.839 by guided journaling like no therapy. No coach 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.599 Just kind of like, you know putting in a format 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.819 of guided journaling So they you know give each 00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:31.880 each week. We would give them one module like 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:34.460 one area of life You know how you are with your 00:19:34.460 --> 00:19:36.559 business how you are with your career how you 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:39.220 are with your intimate relationship How you are 00:19:39.220 --> 00:19:42.779 with your body, right? So each day each week 00:19:42.779 --> 00:19:45.440 we'll give them one module and let them go through 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.980 all of these phases And we still got like, you 00:19:48.980 --> 00:19:53.220 know, a 71 % or 67%. I don't have all the numbers. 00:19:53.220 --> 00:19:57.640 We've done so much research of taking away depression, 00:19:57.740 --> 00:20:00.140 minimizing depression and anxiety, and then raising 00:20:00.140 --> 00:20:03.039 their self -esteem. It's like, wow, it actually 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.339 also works on a self -help level. And that's 00:20:05.339 --> 00:20:08.039 where it led itself to the app, because we figured, 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:10.359 okay, if this can work on a self -help level, 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.920 let's put it in an app so everybody has access 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.660 to it. So Fuzhan app got created. Fuzhan app 00:20:15.660 --> 00:20:18.599 was created. Yeah. So you worked across, so you 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.119 work with and you worked with across, you know, 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:24.680 many dimensions of human behavior. You had mentioned 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:26.779 some of them. Like what's the thread that connects 00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:29.500 them all? Here on the Thrivo journey, we talk 00:20:29.500 --> 00:20:32.400 a lot about not just surviving, but thriving. 00:20:32.859 --> 00:20:35.500 And a big part of that for me has been understanding 00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:38.460 my health on a deeper level. 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Of course, 00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:43.049 of course, always, always, always consult your 00:21:43.049 --> 00:21:45.049 physician before starting any new supplement 00:21:45.049 --> 00:21:47.690 or health regimen. Your body is unique and your 00:21:47.690 --> 00:21:49.630 healthcare provider should always be part of 00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:52.190 the conversation. The links are in the show notes. 00:21:52.549 --> 00:21:55.450 Now tap in and take your next step toward thriving. 00:21:57.490 --> 00:22:00.609 The thread that connects them all is that where 00:22:00.609 --> 00:22:03.390 I also brought them into the AIT is like there's, 00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:06.529 you know, first of all, we all live in relationships. 00:22:06.789 --> 00:22:10.609 So definitely we all, we find our identity in 00:22:10.609 --> 00:22:13.970 relatedness. So it's important what type of relationship 00:22:13.970 --> 00:22:16.829 we create, whether with ourselves or other people. 00:22:17.809 --> 00:22:20.609 So we want to open up these concepts of how do 00:22:20.609 --> 00:22:24.670 I relate from what angle I relate with the world, 00:22:24.829 --> 00:22:28.950 right? Like I, how do I see Michael? How would 00:22:28.950 --> 00:22:31.529 I like when I first see Michael? What is it that 00:22:31.529 --> 00:22:34.380 I see that I like? What is it that I might say 00:22:34.380 --> 00:22:36.420 I have an opinion and I don't like? And that's 00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:39.019 even before knowing you, right? That's just like 00:22:39.019 --> 00:22:42.039 visual, right? Or like your voice. Is your voice, 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:44.640 you know, soothing for me or does it create something 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:49.119 for me? And then the concept is, we all live 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.740 in our assumptions, right? So same thing that 00:22:51.740 --> 00:22:54.880 I will form opinions about you. Can I wonder 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.259 what would Michael think of me and feel about 00:22:57.259 --> 00:23:01.309 me? right, in his own world, right? Then I live 00:23:01.309 --> 00:23:03.150 in all the assumptions. So if I think Michael 00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:07.690 won't like me, or is irritated with me, then 00:23:07.690 --> 00:23:10.470 I will react in a particular way, versus saying, 00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:14.069 oh, Michael likes me. And he's okay with me, 00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:16.589 like he accepts me. So then I'll be free, I'll 00:23:16.589 --> 00:23:19.029 be, you know, right? So we live in our assumptions 00:23:19.029 --> 00:23:21.670 and we react based on our assumptions, right? 00:23:21.910 --> 00:23:24.690 So it's important to be noticing those kind of 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:29.319 assumptions that we live by. besides how I also 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.640 think of you or anyone who's out there and how 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.039 do I come from prejudgments and then as I come 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:39.099 close to people or even relationships, right? 00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:43.599 Like how do I think of my husband? How do I feel 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:46.140 about him? What do I do? you know, that works 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:50.359 or doesn't. Like, you start looking at what behaviors, 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.700 what thoughts, emotions, behaviors I have that 00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:55.079 are workable and creating the results I want, 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:56.980 and what kind of thoughts, feelings, behaviors 00:23:56.980 --> 00:24:00.200 I'm doing, which are not creating, and they're 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.599 creating, you know, they're ruining the relationships 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:06.319 and my self -process. And then there's also this 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.220 part that I relate to myself, which I bring, 00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:12.279 right? So if I am confident and I come and sit 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.980 here, Regardless of what Michael does, I will 00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:18.079 feel confident. Okay. But if I don't feel confident 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:19.960 and it's like, Oh my God, you know, how's this 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.440 going to podcast going to be? If Michael, you 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.440 know, regardless of reacting to me or not, you 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.119 raise an eyebrow. I would say, Oh my God, see 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:30.880 he's upset with you because I wasn't good enough. 00:24:31.059 --> 00:24:34.980 No, no, no, no, no. I will run this thing in 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:39.680 my own head. So. So you could look at. You know, 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.940 the way that we perceive the information from 00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:45.500 the outside world, the way we take in the data, 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.359 the way we perceive it and make up stuff for 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.819 ourselves, the way we create meanings around 00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:53.740 it. And because of those things, we have certain 00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:56.119 feelings that come up. And then because of this, 00:24:56.460 --> 00:24:59.880 we constantly act or react and behave. And due 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.839 to this matter, we create or co -create the world, 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.180 our life and every interaction. we're probably 00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:12.519 5 % aware, 95 % not aware, that's what neuroscience 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:14.839 says, that they're all kind of in subconscious. 00:25:15.380 --> 00:25:19.420 So the more we become aware, the more we bring 00:25:19.420 --> 00:25:22.319 our subconscious to the consciousness, the more 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.240 we have choices in the way that we wanna be in 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:31.279 life. So part of the psychotherapy, and especially 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:35.779 the way that AIT works, is to bring you awareness. 00:25:36.620 --> 00:25:40.079 And with that awareness, choices gets created. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.819 With that awareness, you'll see it's not because 00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:46.240 you're bad, but it's because you might not have 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.339 certain skills. And then how do you gain the 00:25:48.339 --> 00:25:52.200 skills to be the person who you want? With that 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.900 awareness, you can make certain that you could 00:25:54.900 --> 00:26:00.400 create clear goals for yourself and be intentional 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.799 in living. So if I say I really intend to be 00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:08.059 loving, then there's going to be so many areas 00:26:08.059 --> 00:26:11.960 throughout the day that will require me not be. 00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:16.119 But I can keep coming back, you know, if I say 00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:18.759 I'm going to intend to be honest and transparent. 00:26:19.099 --> 00:26:21.319 There's so many reasons during the day that will 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.599 tell me you don't need to be you could lie right 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.519 now. That's true. That's true. Right, right. 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.200 So and then how can I come back to being to say 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:35.019 being intentional with life? Awareness. is such 00:26:35.019 --> 00:26:38.420 a like, just a powerful thing, be it a concept 00:26:38.420 --> 00:26:41.279 or whatever, I don't know. But the older I get, 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.339 the more aware I am, right? Just automatically, 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.420 well, not necessarily automatically, but I've 00:26:47.420 --> 00:26:49.140 done the work, I've done the work on myself. 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.079 And you said that, you know, the more aware you 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.220 are, the more choices you have. And I believe 00:26:55.220 --> 00:27:01.190 that it's almost as if My scope of life has opened 00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:04.589 up because I've become more aware. I've become 00:27:04.589 --> 00:27:07.369 more aware of who I am in situations. I've become 00:27:07.369 --> 00:27:11.130 more aware of how I respond to people. I've become 00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:17.130 even more aware, the older I get, with scams, 00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:23.049 especially in business. And it's not an automatic 00:27:23.049 --> 00:27:27.859 response of damnation. it's just taking the information 00:27:27.859 --> 00:27:30.720 in and saying, Okay, this is, this is how I have 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.259 to handle this situation. I think is a powerful 00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:38.559 thing. And so the awareness, the awareness is 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.119 just by itself is just a powerful thing. How 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:46.000 does that? How is the AI T apart from other therapeutic 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.740 approaches? Is it? I would like to answer that. 00:27:50.109 --> 00:27:53.809 Sure. I think that a little bit of difference 00:27:53.809 --> 00:27:58.490 of it is that it does take in awareness. First 00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:02.069 of all, I created a structure. So you have like 00:28:02.069 --> 00:28:05.630 six phases. And the first phase, three phases 00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:08.250 are all about awareness. So what I should say 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:11.490 is let's create two cameras for you. You know, 00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:13.390 like the ring cameras that we have around our 00:28:13.390 --> 00:28:16.589 home. And I said, put one camera looking inside, 00:28:16.789 --> 00:28:20.789 which will monitor your thoughts. your feelings 00:28:20.789 --> 00:28:23.490 and your physical sensations, because we feel 00:28:23.490 --> 00:28:26.630 feelings in our body, and our body will tell 00:28:26.630 --> 00:28:28.990 us, it'll like, it'll give you information, you 00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:30.869 know, like, were you walking somewhere, and you 00:28:30.869 --> 00:28:32.829 have no idea, but then you're, you know, you've 00:28:32.829 --> 00:28:38.069 got says, right, you meet some people, and you're 00:28:38.069 --> 00:28:44.589 like, no, yes, so there is definitely, you know, 00:28:44.690 --> 00:28:48.809 some senses in your system. And this was before 00:28:48.809 --> 00:28:52.190 being a human being and having a frontal cortex, 00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:55.769 right? In order to survive, we had to have the 00:28:55.769 --> 00:28:58.509 senses that by looking and by hearing, we had 00:28:58.509 --> 00:29:03.250 to assess if it's safe or not. So we do assume 00:29:03.250 --> 00:29:06.990 as part of our, we project and assume as part 00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:12.450 of our survival skills. But so that's one camera, 00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:14.970 like if you go in, you're constantly observing 00:29:14.970 --> 00:29:17.190 your own thought, your feeling and your body 00:29:17.190 --> 00:29:20.210 sensation. The other camera you want to install 00:29:20.210 --> 00:29:24.009 watches your own behavior and the impact and 00:29:24.009 --> 00:29:26.589 the result that you create based on this behavior. 00:29:26.730 --> 00:29:29.650 So this behavior comes out of your thought and 00:29:29.650 --> 00:29:32.549 emotions and your intentions that is inside. 00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:35.789 That's internal process. The external process 00:29:35.789 --> 00:29:38.950 creates this behavior and then your behavior 00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:42.440 has an impact. So it doesn't matter if you keep 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:43.819 saying, I'm going to hit you. I'm going to hate 00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:45.359 you. I really want to hit you. I really want 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.539 to hit you. That's not going to create an impact 00:29:47.539 --> 00:29:51.430 unless I actually do. Unless you do, yeah. And 00:29:51.430 --> 00:29:53.410 whether the behavior is telling you, I'm going 00:29:53.410 --> 00:29:55.289 to hit you, I'm going to create some impact, 00:29:55.549 --> 00:29:57.609 or actually hit you, I'm going to create some 00:29:57.609 --> 00:29:59.930 impact. But as long as that thing is inside of 00:29:59.930 --> 00:30:02.990 me, the impact is very minimal. So you want these 00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:05.609 two concepts of what's inside and then how it 00:30:05.609 --> 00:30:11.390 transfers outside. And a lot of the coaching 00:30:11.390 --> 00:30:13.349 or the psychotherapy, and we do that both, the 00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:15.750 psychotherapy and coaching. When we do that is 00:30:15.750 --> 00:30:18.490 you're really installing those where people can 00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:21.400 really become observant. of themselves in all 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:25.440 of these areas without the commentary. It's not 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.099 about now you're going to damn yourself or you're 00:30:28.099 --> 00:30:30.160 going to do anything. It's just you take data 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.940 in and then you assess the data by is it workable 00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:36.900 or isn't? Is this really what you wanted or it 00:30:36.900 --> 00:30:39.799 isn't? So if I'm a boxer and Michael, you're 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.119 a boxer, if I'm going to say I'm going to hit 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.890 you, that's actually between our agreement. Right. 00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.549 This is something that you and I have actually 00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:51.089 agreed upon. And then we're going to see how 00:30:51.089 --> 00:30:52.970 each one of us hits better. And I'm going to 00:30:52.970 --> 00:30:56.069 be expecting to get hit because that's our agreement. 00:30:56.589 --> 00:30:58.869 But that's not the case. Like, that's not what 00:30:58.869 --> 00:31:02.170 we agreed upon. And we're not a boxer. Then it's 00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:04.170 like, all right, did I, you know, I wanted to 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:06.450 be on his show. He was so gracious to invite 00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:09.329 me on his show. And we're having this conversation. 00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:11.809 And then I come in and do this. Like was this 00:31:12.089 --> 00:31:17.470 helpful what I wanted to do so it's the observation 00:31:17.470 --> 00:31:20.549 of based on my goal based on things that I want 00:31:20.549 --> 00:31:23.190 to create based on you know being intentional 00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:29.109 about life is my thoughts feeling behavior aligned 00:31:29.109 --> 00:31:34.130 with what I want to create and if it's it is 00:31:34.130 --> 00:31:38.210 awesome let's look at it and do it more If it's 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:42.069 not, then let me assess where it does this feeling 00:31:42.069 --> 00:31:46.809 or where does this belief or behavior stems from. 00:31:47.490 --> 00:31:50.190 And then so in phase four, then we take it and 00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:53.480 go to look at, you know, the memories. What has 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.339 happened for me, to me, that I made some of these 00:31:56.339 --> 00:31:58.440 decisions in my life? I've made these belief 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.700 systems about myself or the world. I've made 00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:04.500 these coping mechanisms that are so now subconscious 00:32:04.500 --> 00:32:07.059 and they're like automatic that are coming up. 00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:11.099 And can I go back and look and revisit from a 00:32:11.099 --> 00:32:13.480 part of strength? not only from part of, you 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.940 know, I'm a victim or this happened to me and 00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:20.400 I need to survive this versus, no, I was even 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.460 strong then, you know, I strategized, I survived, 00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:26.319 I was resilient, all of those. So coming back 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.960 and recreating those memories, rewriting those 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.599 memories, because memories are not solid. Memories 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.819 always are shaped. So all the research shows 00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:37.799 that every time you go back to a memory, you're 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.759 reframing it. So I can go back to a memory and 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:44.039 say, poor me, I was abused, I was this and that, 00:32:44.059 --> 00:32:47.460 and it was true partially, but it wasn't all 00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:49.700 of it. Like you said, as I grow up, the lens 00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:52.059 gets bigger and I get it. And so when I go back 00:32:52.059 --> 00:32:55.059 to that memory, I'm no longer a three -year -old. 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.119 I can go back and look at it from who I am today 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.819 and get the bigger picture of what was going 00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:03.480 on in that scenario and how I survived it, you 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.819 know, how I resiliently pulled through, how even 00:33:06.819 --> 00:33:09.660 as a child I, you know, endured or was patient 00:33:09.660 --> 00:33:13.319 or was quiet holding until or strategized and 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.519 how to get out of it. I mean, those are all strengths, 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.900 right, that we were used. So going back and kind 00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:21.619 of clearing all of these other pieces that we 00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:24.420 left in the closet and never went back. So you 00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:26.900 kind of like clean up and sweep up and we do 00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:29.140 this in every area of life because sometimes 00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:32.740 sometimes Michael you have a skill somewhere 00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:35.480 but it hasn't been transferred to other places. 00:33:35.619 --> 00:33:37.640 I'm sure people who are with us have experienced 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.720 this that in professional settings you know doesn't 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.119 matter even if you come across difficult people. 00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:45.900 they're, you know, emotionally regulating themselves. 00:33:46.059 --> 00:33:48.259 They know exactly how to talk on a professional 00:33:48.259 --> 00:33:52.440 level, you know, and disengage from that's happening. 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.299 And then they go home, you know, on a holiday 00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:59.839 to their parents' home. It's a completely different... 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.079 They forget all of their skills and they're, 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.299 you know, acting like they were like, you know, 00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:09.460 five years old. So then it's important for us 00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:12.039 to see what areas of life we've actually gained 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.860 skills that we can transfer to other areas of 00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:18.460 our life and kind of like grow ourselves up everywhere 00:34:18.460 --> 00:34:21.340 and become a whole versus all of this fragmented 00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:24.099 parts of us that are hanging out everywhere, 00:34:24.579 --> 00:34:27.480 kind of become aware, heal, and become a whole. 00:34:27.860 --> 00:34:30.880 And then from that whole place, then set up, 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.860 who do I intend to be? What is it I want to create 00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:36.550 in my life? and then, you know, create your goals 00:34:36.550 --> 00:34:39.710 and action plans and systems and structures in 00:34:39.710 --> 00:34:42.849 order to be able to succeed at anything that 00:34:42.849 --> 00:34:45.489 you say you want to do. Yeah, I was going to 00:34:45.489 --> 00:34:48.230 ask you why is integrating emotions, thoughts 00:34:48.230 --> 00:34:50.969 and behaviors so essential in healing, but you 00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:53.670 kind of answered it. And the thing I wanted to 00:34:53.670 --> 00:34:56.630 say, I would try to make this make sense was 00:34:56.630 --> 00:35:00.670 I was talking to some producer and I was talking 00:35:00.670 --> 00:35:06.320 about as I guess as I'm, you know, continuing 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.099 to succeed in the things that I'm doing, like 00:35:09.099 --> 00:35:11.440 before that, it was like, I was trying to get 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.400 somewhere, you know, running to become something. 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.920 And I'm still becoming something, but the thing 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:24.440 that I failed to do was reconnect with that young 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.019 part of me that actually gave me that strength 00:35:28.019 --> 00:35:31.880 to be who I am today. And there was such a disconnect. 00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.159 from who I am today to that person. I mean, things 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.420 happen, you know, in the space of when I was 00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:43.440 younger to where I am now, but that young person 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.679 gave me the drive. That young person gave me 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.159 the dream. That young person gave me the goals 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.900 that I wanted to create. Not even necessarily 00:35:51.900 --> 00:35:53.980 goals, but what I wanted to create for my future. 00:35:55.860 --> 00:36:00.260 And I disconnected with that. Just as of lately, 00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:06.590 though, I reconnected with that and that emotional 00:36:06.590 --> 00:36:10.030 part of me connected with the thoughts of who 00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:15.650 I am today that allowed me to just become a fuller 00:36:15.650 --> 00:36:20.670 version of who I am. And I was healing, I'm still 00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:23.769 healing, but I was healing and when you were 00:36:23.769 --> 00:36:25.809 saying, when you were speaking and sharing that, 00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:32.690 it was like, that would help so many people to 00:36:32.690 --> 00:36:36.050 not just run away from who they were, but reconnect 00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:38.690 those parts of them that for the memories that 00:36:38.690 --> 00:36:41.590 they had, they think are bad memories, but they're 00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:44.050 possibly memories that just really support them 00:36:44.050 --> 00:36:46.449 in becoming the person, the greater person who 00:36:46.449 --> 00:36:50.630 they are now and reconnect with that person. 00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:54.289 Well, the bad news and the good news is you can't 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:59.449 run away from that part. No, I'd be running and 00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:01.409 running and running in a circle. Yeah. So the 00:37:01.409 --> 00:37:03.710 bad news is you can't get away. The good news 00:37:03.710 --> 00:37:06.429 is you can't get away. And it does allow you 00:37:06.429 --> 00:37:11.309 to go back and bring them in, bring them in from 00:37:11.309 --> 00:37:14.050 a whole different place. Because in that place, 00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:22.529 as I said, we were left with powerlessness. And 00:37:22.529 --> 00:37:24.849 it's true, like, how much power does a two -year 00:37:24.849 --> 00:37:26.329 -old or a three -year -old or a five -year -old 00:37:26.329 --> 00:37:29.050 have? I mean, we have power as much as our age 00:37:29.050 --> 00:37:33.449 and circumstances, right? But then if we've survived 00:37:33.449 --> 00:37:36.590 it, if we've thrived and come to here, obviously, 00:37:36.909 --> 00:37:41.349 yes, exactly what you said. It's, you know, the 00:37:41.349 --> 00:37:45.010 tenacity, the bazillions of that part of us that 00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:50.860 didn't die and didn't go psychotic. Because if 00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:56.440 we pressure too much, our ego strength just collapses. 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.980 So if my ego strength even as a young child was 00:38:00.980 --> 00:38:05.039 so strong enough that held through all of these 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:09.579 things, good for him, good for her, right? Good 00:38:09.579 --> 00:38:12.739 for me for having that essence of resilience 00:38:12.739 --> 00:38:16.099 that with the other level of powerlessness sometimes, 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.800 with the other level of helplessness sometimes, 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.320 without the other level of not having skills, 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.900 and most of the time not even having the frontal 00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:27.719 cortex as a system to help me to move forward, 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:33.719 I still endure. So yes, when we go and kind of 00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.199 bring that person, that part of us out of the 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.500 closet, and it's like, here, yes, you were strong 00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:43.610 enough then, and look who we have become. And 00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:46.050 this is who we are and we don't have to be separate 00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:48.170 again. We have to be one because now we have 00:38:48.170 --> 00:38:50.650 access to all of it. We have access to vulnerabilities. 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:53.170 There's still, I don't care how strong we are. 00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.530 I don't care how many skills we have. There are 00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:57.809 going to be circumstances that I'm going to feel 00:38:57.809 --> 00:39:02.409 powerless again. I'm going to be helpless. And 00:39:02.409 --> 00:39:05.590 I just got to endure the way I endured before 00:39:05.590 --> 00:39:07.909 or I'll learn new ways of enduring because this 00:39:07.909 --> 00:39:11.940 is a new circumstances. But as a whole, Yes, 00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:15.079 it's much easier to move forward as a whole and 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:21.380 have access to all of my strength also We're 00:39:21.380 --> 00:39:26.039 So I'm thinking about the the the person listening 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:31.780 That don't necessarily have the skills Not necessarily 00:39:31.780 --> 00:39:35.159 skills, but the understanding of how to do that 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:40.059 to reconnect to Begin to allow themselves to 00:39:40.059 --> 00:39:43.800 be not as fragmented, but more of a whole and 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.840 powerful person. Where do they start? What are 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.440 the things, Fotona, 31 areas of life, I'll take 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.500 you through all of it and we'll give you exactly 00:39:53.500 --> 00:39:57.059 how to do it. The ones who don't want to go, 00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:04.199 I'll tell you. The best thing is to look at, 00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:06.239 don't become aware, put in those cameras that 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:09.219 I sent to you. And as you become aware, you'll 00:40:09.219 --> 00:40:11.699 see that there's some emotions that are coming 00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:16.099 up that are appropriate to the situation. Then 00:40:16.099 --> 00:40:18.599 you'll see some emotions that are coming up that 00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.960 just feels too intense for whatever's happening. 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.420 Right? So if somebody comes and says something 00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:29.480 to me, I could be upset, feel disrespected and, 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.239 you know, have an intensity of two or three based 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.500 on who they are and whatever it is. And that 00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:36.579 might be appropriate. And then I can you know, 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.599 share with them what I need and how I like to 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.260 be spoken to or what meals and, you know, clear 00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:44.400 them. But if somebody comes and says that to 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.800 me and that day instead of intensity of two, 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.260 I have an intensity of 10 in rage, then I won't, 00:40:51.380 --> 00:40:55.860 that's a cue. How come I'm getting so offended? 00:40:56.019 --> 00:40:59.800 How come the intensity of my emotion is so high? 00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:04.730 What am I making this mean that this is so important 00:41:04.730 --> 00:41:07.710 for me? This isn't any longer about the input 00:41:07.710 --> 00:41:10.489 that it's coming. But the way that I'm making 00:41:10.489 --> 00:41:12.769 meaning out of it, the perceiving and all of 00:41:12.769 --> 00:41:17.250 that is making this huge. So then I want to take 00:41:17.250 --> 00:41:21.010 that and kind of go, all right, where is this 00:41:21.010 --> 00:41:24.489 coming from? You know, where is it that I experienced 00:41:24.489 --> 00:41:28.730 this type of belief system or emotions that showed 00:41:28.730 --> 00:41:32.800 up for me? And that's the path to go into kind 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:35.599 of like the past and look at where did it show 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.420 up? How did it show up? When is it that I made 00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:41.699 those decisions? What circumstances were there 00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:45.840 where I had to cope this way? And it's still 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.199 kind of unresolved and I don't experience all 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.480 of my strength and that's why this type of extreme 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.820 emotions are coming up. So our extreme emotions 00:41:56.820 --> 00:42:01.199 are the Q. to unfinished business, because I 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:02.780 mean, we're human and we're supposed to have 00:42:02.780 --> 00:42:07.079 emotions, but the emotions supposedly are matching 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.079 the circumstances that are happening. So if it 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:16.599 feels a little bit higher or too much higher 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.360 than regular, you know, appropriate emotion for 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.079 this intensity, then that's a clue. And how do 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.079 we get it? We look at other people around us. 00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:31.460 How are they reacting to these pieces? Is mine 00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:34.380 a little bit more than them? Or if I share the 00:42:34.380 --> 00:42:38.119 scenario with my friends and family, the way 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.659 they talk to me, it's like, not a big deal. How 00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:42.980 come you're having such an emotional piece with 00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:47.440 it? Then it's a cue. Okay, maybe I am overreacting 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.420 and let me see where... It's not that I'm bad 00:42:50.420 --> 00:42:53.079 or... There's something wrong with me that I'm 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.219 overreacting. It just means there's some meaning 00:42:56.219 --> 00:42:58.940 or unfinished business that still needs to be 00:42:58.940 --> 00:43:02.199 healed and taken care of, which it seems like 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.599 if other people don't have the same meaning or 00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.539 feeling, they're not getting activated as much. 00:43:08.579 --> 00:43:12.119 Does that make sense? It does make sense. I was 00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.219 smiling because it could be something really 00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:20.639 simple. My family, they're all Apple people. 00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:23.099 iPhone people, whatever. And me and my brother 00:43:23.099 --> 00:43:26.679 are Android guys. Say what you want to, you know, 00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:31.380 people talking about us all the time. But somebody 00:43:31.380 --> 00:43:35.219 put me in a group chat for iPhone. And I mean, 00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:38.599 I got livid. Because I don't like being in group 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.280 chats and stuff like that. And I just responded, 00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:45.440 just like just went off calling the person. I'm 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.179 like, it was a Matt family member. I was like, 00:43:48.019 --> 00:43:54.090 you know, and It was such a visceral reaction 00:43:54.090 --> 00:43:56.389 that what didn't make sense after like about 00:43:56.389 --> 00:43:58.369 15, 20 minutes and I was talking to my sister 00:43:58.369 --> 00:44:01.750 was around and I was like, did I just overreact 00:44:01.750 --> 00:44:07.110 about that? She was like, yeah. And I don't know 00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:10.210 what that was. I still don't even know why. Well, 00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:12.269 I did because it was like something was taken 00:44:12.269 --> 00:44:14.989 out of my control that I didn't want to be a 00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:18.170 part of, you know, and and I didn't have a say 00:44:18.170 --> 00:44:22.320 in it. And so what you were saying, that's what 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:26.980 kind of stirred inside of me. Exactly. So then 00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:30.219 it's taking that concept of, you know, taking 00:44:30.219 --> 00:44:34.440 the concept of, okay, I have a reaction to when 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.559 I'm not in control, and I don't have a say so 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.000 about something. It seems possibly that when 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.869 that happens that You know, there might be harm 00:44:43.869 --> 00:44:46.670 or there might be disrespect or might be something 00:44:46.670 --> 00:44:48.610 that's harmful. So it's not, it's not like a 00:44:48.610 --> 00:44:50.750 joyous experience. It's like, if this happens, 00:44:50.829 --> 00:44:52.630 then there's going to be some harm happening. 00:44:53.070 --> 00:44:55.949 So then it's like taking that concept and seeing 00:44:55.949 --> 00:44:58.110 where was the first time or second time that 00:44:58.110 --> 00:45:00.070 something like this happened where I was not. 00:45:00.630 --> 00:45:02.510 You know, they didn't, I didn't have to say so, 00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:05.010 and I was powerless and all of that. And, you 00:45:05.010 --> 00:45:06.829 know, something happened, which was not part 00:45:06.829 --> 00:45:09.659 of my desire and somehow that. that got stuck 00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:12.300 in a sense from that place then therefore we 00:45:12.300 --> 00:45:14.860 made a decision right as a human being as an 00:45:14.860 --> 00:45:17.159 animal we you know even animals make a decision 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:21.119 uh -oh harm there don't do it again or you know 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.380 harm there make sure you don't do it so you know 00:45:23.380 --> 00:45:26.280 fight first so these are conditionings for our 00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.400 survival but sometimes when it becomes conditioned 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.519 in that way we're not even realizing that the 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.929 conditioning is working much faster than us the 00:45:36.929 --> 00:45:40.389 conditioning is doing much faster and going forward 00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:43.949 without us actually looking and having appropriate 00:45:43.949 --> 00:45:49.070 assessments of what is needed here. So that's 00:45:49.070 --> 00:45:51.869 where the awareness shows up. And then if this 00:45:51.869 --> 00:45:54.170 keeps happening, I'll know, okay, that's something 00:45:54.170 --> 00:45:58.690 I really have to resolve. Yeah. Yeah. I've since 00:45:58.690 --> 00:46:02.170 worked on that and know how to respond differently. 00:46:03.210 --> 00:46:08.289 It hasn't shown up. Where I felt powerless or 00:46:08.289 --> 00:46:10.389 not able to, you know, control the situation 00:46:10.389 --> 00:46:13.489 that I didn't have a word in. But when it does 00:46:13.489 --> 00:46:15.630 show up, I think, especially after this conversation, 00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:19.090 it's a new awareness, another level of awareness 00:46:19.090 --> 00:46:25.869 that will show up. And that kind of bridges with 00:46:25.869 --> 00:46:27.829 mental health. I was going to start talking about 00:46:27.829 --> 00:46:31.309 that. And then to your app, because I'm very 00:46:31.309 --> 00:46:34.829 interested in that. But you had mentioned 70%. 00:46:36.389 --> 00:46:40.050 improvement in mental health. And I think, is 00:46:40.050 --> 00:46:44.050 it with the app or was it with, okay, what contributes 00:46:44.050 --> 00:46:47.190 to that level of success for people? That's a 00:46:47.190 --> 00:46:51.000 great question. When we've done this with with 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.280 psychotherapy and coaching, obviously the numbers 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.579 are higher because there's someone there coaching 00:46:56.579 --> 00:46:59.940 you moving forward will find a blind spot. And, 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:02.019 you know, obviously when it comes to healing 00:47:02.019 --> 00:47:05.039 the past and moving forward, when some when you're 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.280 doing this process with another person, a coach 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.599 or a psychotherapist, it helps a lot. Right. 00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:13.860 I usually say it like this, you know, we all 00:47:13.860 --> 00:47:17.000 have had some of these massage toys that we have 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.639 that we use at home, you know, that you massage 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.820 yourself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So those 00:47:22.820 --> 00:47:25.159 are good. Those are really good. When you're 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:27.820 tired, you come home and you're kind of your 00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:30.519 muscles are, you know, stiff and you want some 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.559 release at that moment. And that's worse. It's 00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.940 a very different experience than going to a massage 00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:40.190 therapist, right? A masseuse, because You just 00:47:40.190 --> 00:47:42.650 allow yourself to be relaxed. You're not the 00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:45.090 one who's doing something. They're doing it and 00:47:45.090 --> 00:47:47.590 they know what to do. And then imagine another 00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:50.710 person has some injury, okay? So a massage therapist 00:47:50.710 --> 00:47:52.809 is not enough. They actually have to go to a 00:47:52.809 --> 00:47:55.690 specialist where, you know, they go to a physical 00:47:55.690 --> 00:47:58.489 therapist, let's just say, or go to a chiropractor 00:47:58.489 --> 00:48:01.750 because they need something more than that. So 00:48:01.750 --> 00:48:04.789 I usually look at mental illnesses and mental 00:48:04.789 --> 00:48:09.139 health from that angle, right? So something like 00:48:09.139 --> 00:48:11.380 Fuzhan app is the massage thing that you have 00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:16.219 at home So it works for you up to a point because 00:48:16.219 --> 00:48:19.219 you're doing is a guided journaling It'll prompt 00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:22.099 you it'll ask you questions and then it'll guide 00:48:22.099 --> 00:48:24.980 you from one end to the other. It'll give you 00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:27.780 It'll give you meditation will give you, you 00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:30.300 know guided meditation to go through and really 00:48:30.300 --> 00:48:33.190 look at things and move forward with it So that's 00:48:33.190 --> 00:48:36.610 how the app works. How did it get, and then, 00:48:36.610 --> 00:48:38.730 you know, if you go to a coach or a psychotherapist, 00:48:38.849 --> 00:48:42.030 obviously they're there and it'll give you a 00:48:42.030 --> 00:48:46.030 higher concepts of higher results of efficacy. 00:48:46.690 --> 00:48:50.409 The question was that you asked, how come, you 00:48:50.409 --> 00:48:52.929 know, we're getting this high numbers. I think 00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:55.829 because when you're looking at depression, and 00:48:55.829 --> 00:48:58.849 I'm not talking about chemically induced depression, 00:48:59.110 --> 00:49:01.489 I'm talking just like psychological depression. 00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:05.570 Psychological depression comes a lot from either 00:49:05.570 --> 00:49:08.889 traumas from the childhood or childhood adverse 00:49:08.889 --> 00:49:12.489 experiences. If we were raised in an environment 00:49:12.489 --> 00:49:16.070 that was not necessarily healing us, nurturing 00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:19.750 to us, we pick up information that, you know, 00:49:20.469 --> 00:49:23.690 we turn it against ourselves. So when we've... 00:49:23.659 --> 00:49:26.059 think that way against ourselves or the world. 00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:28.980 If the world hasn't been safe for me or outside, 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.820 then I believe these kind of negative belief 00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:34.880 systems add to the depression because I've become 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.960 powerless, hopeless, and the powerlessness and 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.199 the hopeless when I don't think I have control 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:43.679 over the world, then it holds me as a depressive 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.820 state. So as we go through this process of awareness, 00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:51.519 and we go through the healing the past and completing, 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.480 then obviously these all changes. And because 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.260 you come back to your sense of power, you can 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:02.159 see why the depression levels minimizes because 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.900 we're opening all of these things up. The reason 00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:08.420 that I think that anxiety comes down also is 00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:13.960 what is anxiety? Anxiety is you create a horror 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:18.300 film and the future of yourself based on some 00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:21.380 of the stuff that has happened to the past. So 00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:23.860 that's what anxiety looks like. And I'm talking 00:50:23.860 --> 00:50:26.599 like a toxic anxiety because we all are supposed 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.860 to have anxiety because it's almost like a protective 00:50:28.860 --> 00:50:33.199 sense of watch out. So we're not talking on a 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.239 protective level of anxiety. We're talking on 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.780 a toxic level of anxiety. So that comes because 00:50:38.780 --> 00:50:41.880 a part of our system says, I had a bad past, 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.599 watch out so it doesn't happen again. What if 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.900 this? What if that? What if that happens? Get 00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:50.360 ready, do this, don't go there. That's what anxiety 00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.340 is. So again, you can imagine as I become more 00:50:53.340 --> 00:50:56.679 aware of myself, and I've complete the past in 00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.980 a way, I look at it in another way. So my superimposition 00:50:59.980 --> 00:51:03.639 of that negative past to the future lessons, 00:51:03.900 --> 00:51:07.679 it ends. Plus that as I move forward in phases 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.110 five and six, I am creating goals. I am systematically 00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:14.690 creating what is it I'm in control of, what can 00:51:14.690 --> 00:51:17.949 I do, how I can move forward. So I'm creating 00:51:17.949 --> 00:51:20.949 and envisioning a future which is a little bit 00:51:20.949 --> 00:51:25.719 more set. So not only I don't superimpose the 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.820 past and the future, but I'm also creating a 00:51:28.820 --> 00:51:31.320 future which calls me forward, which is exciting 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.460 for me, which I can see what parts of it I have 00:51:34.460 --> 00:51:36.980 in control and not, where part I need to skips 00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:42.239 skills. That's why it also minimizes the anxiety. 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.059 The reason it raises self -esteem and self -efficacy 00:51:46.059 --> 00:51:48.900 and self -confidence is because in some of these 00:51:48.900 --> 00:51:52.179 phases, I'm changing the way I've thought about 00:51:52.179 --> 00:51:55.960 myself. And I'm changing the way that I behave 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.400 toward myself. And what is self -esteem is how 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.099 I look at myself and see myself as valuable. 00:52:02.539 --> 00:52:04.940 What is self -confidence is when I see that I'm 00:52:04.940 --> 00:52:08.690 capable. If I change these things that I say 00:52:08.690 --> 00:52:11.650 to myself and kind of like constantly scold myself, 00:52:11.969 --> 00:52:15.489 when I change that, which is accepting who I 00:52:15.489 --> 00:52:18.989 am, loving who I am, being nurturing to who I 00:52:18.989 --> 00:52:21.909 am, and even if I'm making mistakes, how do I 00:52:21.909 --> 00:52:24.949 talk to myself and nurture myself and motivate 00:52:24.949 --> 00:52:28.289 myself to move forward? You can see it raises 00:52:28.289 --> 00:52:31.329 self -esteem and self -confidence. So that's 00:52:31.329 --> 00:52:33.610 why the numbers are like that. But obviously 00:52:33.610 --> 00:52:37.079 the numbers for self -help will be less than 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.099 when you are with someone as far as efficacy. 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.599 And I think that's the analogy I said. Well, 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.420 the impact you're going to get on kind of massaging 00:52:46.420 --> 00:52:48.420 yourself is a little bit different than when 00:52:48.420 --> 00:52:51.519 you go to an expert massage therapist, which 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.099 is, you know, working with your body. Well, I 00:52:54.099 --> 00:52:56.840 think it's, first of all, it's great that you 00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:01.400 have the ability to have that in the app that 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:05.940 can support people in their daily life. What 00:53:05.940 --> 00:53:08.340 kind of feedback are you getting from people 00:53:08.340 --> 00:53:11.760 that are actually on the app right now? One of 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:13.980 the feedback is the numbers they gave, because 00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:18.219 before they go into each one of these areas of 00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:20.860 life that they want to work on, we ask a couple 00:53:20.860 --> 00:53:23.460 of questions about how are they fulfilled with 00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:26.659 this area. And the same questions are done after 00:53:26.659 --> 00:53:30.619 they finish the process. Questions come up and 00:53:30.619 --> 00:53:32.639 that's how we're getting the numbers. They're 00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:38.280 saying I'm 71 % 75 % in this area 60 % more satisfied 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.280 than when I started. Right so that's how they're 00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:46.239 the feedback is coming. And based on that sometimes, 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.119 you know, obviously we get emails, we get people 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.460 who tell us, people who come and actually, you 00:53:51.460 --> 00:53:53.559 know, I meet them when I'm doing conferences 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.539 that they come and they say, I used it and it 00:53:55.539 --> 00:53:59.059 was. The reason we created the chatbot mirror, 00:53:59.780 --> 00:54:02.650 AI chatbot mirror. Was because at the beginning, 00:54:02.710 --> 00:54:04.909 when we started working with the app and we were 00:54:04.909 --> 00:54:08.170 writing and all of that, it just felt like people 00:54:08.170 --> 00:54:11.309 were were doing this on their own. And sometimes 00:54:11.309 --> 00:54:13.110 they had questions or sometimes they said, I 00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:14.889 don't have a skill. Okay. I got it. You know, 00:54:14.909 --> 00:54:17.230 I'm aware I don't have the skill. Now what? Right. 00:54:17.610 --> 00:54:20.489 So, you know, we created like videos of skill 00:54:20.489 --> 00:54:23.190 building videos, but they had to go get out of 00:54:23.190 --> 00:54:26.170 the chat and go into like the website to get 00:54:26.170 --> 00:54:28.760 all of those. And he was like, well, if we could 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:33.420 bring those some of those skills to you as you're 00:54:33.420 --> 00:54:37.079 going along. So then we train the AI chatbot. 00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:41.400 And so it answers you from the AI team model. 00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.340 So as you're going through guided journaling, 00:54:44.659 --> 00:54:47.199 you might just pop up Mira and say, now, what 00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.340 do I do with my husband when he's being pissy 00:54:49.340 --> 00:54:55.380 to me? A real thing, people, a real thing. Real 00:54:55.380 --> 00:54:57.760 thing, real thing. So then you write down, you 00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.719 know, I'm sorry that it's being, you know, that 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.539 you perceive that your husband is being pissy 00:55:01.539 --> 00:55:03.360 to you. Now let's look at a couple of things. 00:55:03.420 --> 00:55:06.019 So they give you a couple of like, you know, 00:55:06.300 --> 00:55:08.739 reframing questions or reflecting questions. 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:10.380 Have you noticed that? Have you noticed that? 00:55:10.420 --> 00:55:12.139 Have you looked at yourself? And they'll give 00:55:12.139 --> 00:55:14.820 you skills. Is there, you know, please talk to 00:55:14.820 --> 00:55:17.019 him and say this, this, this or do this. I'll 00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:20.000 give you like eight or ten skills plus reflective 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.719 questions. So you kind of ponder and move forward. 00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.179 It was interesting. My husband went to his barber. 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.159 So as he's sitting there, the barber is talking 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:33.679 to him about himself and, you know, his ex -wife 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:36.480 and his son and saying that at the time that 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.079 because they got divorced, you know, the ex -wife 00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.420 and him were not really talking a lot and his 00:55:41.420 --> 00:55:44.320 son. he just felt like he was losing his son 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.760 throughout. And he was kind of blaming the ex 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:49.059 -wife and, you know, we don't get that. And so 00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:50.860 he said, I don't know what to do. And my husband 00:55:50.860 --> 00:55:53.280 pulls his phone up and says, you want to ask 00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.659 Mira? So they ask Mira and Mira gives him like, 00:55:57.659 --> 00:55:59.920 you know, eight or 10, the kind of solutions 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:04.599 that, okay, this is go try these out. So like, 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.440 you know, fast forward a month, my husband goes 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.219 back to the barbershop again. And so as he's 00:56:10.219 --> 00:56:13.010 sitting, he says, What's going on? And he said 00:56:13.010 --> 00:56:16.190 I gotta tell you that since I've done everything 00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:18.150 because they took pictures, right? Like the following 00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:20.269 they took pictures of exactly what we were saying 00:56:20.269 --> 00:56:24.250 He says I went home and I started talking to 00:56:24.250 --> 00:56:27.409 him I started talking to my ex -wife and I could 00:56:27.409 --> 00:56:30.210 tell you within the past 12 years we haven't 00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:32.929 had You know a better communication that we've 00:56:32.929 --> 00:56:38.260 had this past couple of weeks where we actually 00:56:38.260 --> 00:56:40.900 sat down and went through everything that Mira 00:56:40.900 --> 00:56:43.219 said, do this, do this, and I listened and I 00:56:43.219 --> 00:56:46.059 did that. And I get the results as if I've got 00:56:46.059 --> 00:56:50.219 my son back. And my relationship with my ex -wife 00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:53.199 came out of hostility. It's no longer hostile. 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.460 Because we started looking at, we're both here, 00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:58.699 we're no longer married, it's not about the two 00:56:58.699 --> 00:57:01.980 of us anymore. And we recommitted in being good 00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:06.260 co -parent. and allow my son to have me and me 00:57:06.260 --> 00:57:08.179 having my son because it's better for my son 00:57:08.179 --> 00:57:12.019 to have his father. So we accepted, you know, 00:57:12.139 --> 00:57:15.420 me and my exes accepted that. And then this opened 00:57:15.420 --> 00:57:17.719 a little bit of the conversation with my son. 00:57:17.780 --> 00:57:20.739 Well, he doesn't have to feel guilty to upset 00:57:20.739 --> 00:57:23.320 his mother. And our friend there is working with 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:33.019 me. And that's my dog trying to have it. to the 00:57:33.019 --> 00:57:34.860 show, you have obviously have an opinion about 00:57:34.860 --> 00:57:39.800 this. Right, she does, or he does. I think that's 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.480 really powerful, you know, having something like 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.280 that that can, you know, just bring families 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.800 back together or, you know, start healing what 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:55.059 needs to be healed in those situations. And that's 00:57:55.059 --> 00:57:56.900 probably what makes us different or separate 00:57:56.900 --> 00:57:59.380 from other wellness apps that are out there, 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.699 right? Yes, I mean, a lot of people right now, 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:07.480 there was actually, I think Gallup did. And research 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.119 or a survey, and they said most of people are 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.360 getting their psychological. skills from TikTok 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:17.059 at this point. And many people were going to 00:58:17.059 --> 00:58:20.840 chat GBT. And chat GBT answers well, not, you 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.300 know, putting, I work with chat GBT consistently 00:58:23.300 --> 00:58:26.340 and I use it for what it needs to be used. However, 00:58:26.460 --> 00:58:29.559 chat GBT hallucinates a lot of these open AIs. 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.079 They're called open AI, open generative AI. They 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.260 hallucinate because they get active from everywhere. 00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:38.940 There's no guards around it. So they'll do anything 00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:41.670 and you can train it. and you know we've heard 00:58:41.670 --> 00:58:45.349 really horror stories also from where like somebody 00:58:45.349 --> 00:58:48.130 was trying to convince that I want to become 00:58:48.130 --> 00:58:50.090 a drug dealer I want to kill myself and at one 00:58:50.090 --> 00:58:51.750 point it's like yeah go ahead and these are the 00:58:51.750 --> 00:58:55.469 ways or go ahead and kill yourself because yeah 00:58:55.469 --> 00:58:58.030 because it doesn't have you know a guardrail 00:58:58.030 --> 00:59:00.590 around it so it just goes like you could train 00:59:00.590 --> 00:59:04.030 it and go after back and forth with it and convince 00:59:04.030 --> 00:59:06.789 it because it'll just take from you to the next 00:59:06.789 --> 00:59:11.840 level So, and then we also have like boxed rule 00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.500 -based AIs, and boxed rule -based AIs are the 00:59:16.500 --> 00:59:19.360 one you say, if this, then this, if they ask 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.739 this, only answer this, and this is how they 00:59:21.739 --> 00:59:27.139 work. So, what we brought the, you know, Sam 00:59:27.139 --> 00:59:30.039 Chengizi, who's the creator of the app and the 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:33.340 AI, what he has done is brought both of these 00:59:33.340 --> 00:59:36.840 together. So, now we have It's a generative AI, 00:59:37.059 --> 00:59:39.440 which learns from you and comes back and some 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:42.119 of the things you've journaled, takes your information 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.340 from your journal and gives it back to you and 00:59:44.340 --> 00:59:46.980 learns from you and brings it. But we've also 00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:50.300 created rules around it, definitely for the benefit 00:59:50.300 --> 00:59:52.940 of the client and the user. So it keeps it safe. 00:59:53.619 --> 00:59:56.619 So, you know, we test it sometimes. It's like. 00:59:56.699 --> 00:59:58.860 We go in, like, I want to kill myself, whatever. 00:59:59.059 --> 01:00:01.480 So I'm seeing what it says and we box it. We 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.380 box those rules. Right. So it's like, OK, this 01:00:04.380 --> 01:00:06.780 is and then sometimes now if you ask it something 01:00:06.780 --> 01:00:09.199 that it's not supposed to answer, people say, 01:00:09.219 --> 01:00:11.500 I'm not trained in that. Could you please call 01:00:11.500 --> 01:00:13.659 your physician? I'm not trained in this. Could 01:00:13.659 --> 01:00:16.800 you do such and such? Yes, because, you know, 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.159 we wanted it to be safe. One of the things that 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.860 I've always learned being a therapist. It's always 01:00:21.860 --> 01:00:24.480 to the benefit of the client. It has to be safe 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.500 for the client. So we wanted to make sure that 01:00:27.500 --> 01:00:30.960 it is open enough so that it can generate and 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.960 it can become personalized to you. And it's not 01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.460 just giving you, you know, one size fits for 01:00:36.460 --> 01:00:39.539 all answers, but the answers are based on who 01:00:39.539 --> 01:00:42.300 you are, which you have trained it to be. But 01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:45.340 also it's closed enough and it's a rule based 01:00:45.340 --> 01:00:48.500 enough that keeps you safe. So, I think this 01:00:48.500 --> 01:00:50.960 is an advantage. I haven't seen such a thing 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.300 in the market at all. And I'm really thankful. 01:00:54.460 --> 01:00:57.400 Yeah, I'm really thankful to, you know, Sam for 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.239 being able to create this to bring these 2 together 01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:03.739 in a sense. And, you know, the future is we're 01:01:03.739 --> 01:01:07.139 making it audio right now. It's only written. 01:01:07.340 --> 01:01:10.119 So we're bringing it into audio. So even people 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.960 can can just talk and the part, you know, just 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.139 writes for them and journals. Then you could 01:01:16.139 --> 01:01:18.739 talk to Mira. And when you do that, also, when 01:01:18.739 --> 01:01:20.980 we're bringing the new technology, then at this 01:01:20.980 --> 01:01:23.739 point is only English language. So hopefully 01:01:23.739 --> 01:01:26.300 we can bring it to different languages because 01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:28.480 when it's audio and all of that, it exchange 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.219 through those a lot. So those are the improvements 01:01:32.219 --> 01:01:35.300 that consistently we're working on the next phases 01:01:35.300 --> 01:01:38.820 and the next phases. But so far, I think still, 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:40.960 because, you know, from a marketing perspective, 01:01:41.019 --> 01:01:42.940 we're constantly looking at what's out there 01:01:42.940 --> 01:01:47.099 and, you know, how we can. At this point in the 01:01:47.099 --> 01:01:49.219 market, we still don't have anything that is 01:01:49.219 --> 01:01:53.559 that looks like it. So it is mental health. It's, 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:55.739 you know, again, disclaimer for everyone. This 01:01:55.739 --> 01:01:58.360 is not for people with truly mental illnesses. 01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:02.760 I think you need more of a. You know, one on 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.440 one, you need professionals, you need to be heard 01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.639 and. Be with someone who can assess best this 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:13.320 is the app is really for people who are. You 01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:15.260 know, they're not mentally mental illnesses, 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.199 but they're mentally healthy. They just need 01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.780 skills for life. You know, I think most everybody 01:02:19.780 --> 01:02:22.239 experiences anxiety and depression sometimes 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.559 in their life, or they just, you know, they don't 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.539 even have anxiety and depression, but they have. 01:02:27.240 --> 01:02:29.719 questions about life. They like to be here, you 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.400 know, working better. So mental well -being, 01:02:32.619 --> 01:02:35.039 mental health and well -being is what the app 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:38.800 and Mira is for. And then for people who need 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.340 more concentrated health, then to go to psychotherapists 01:02:43.340 --> 01:02:45.619 and coaches across the world, which we're training 01:02:45.619 --> 01:02:49.300 so that they can actually get this theory and 01:02:49.300 --> 01:02:52.199 this model, but with someone who's an expert 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.440 and really can, you know, work with them specifically. 01:02:55.739 --> 01:02:57.739 Yeah, I think it's important to say, especially 01:02:57.739 --> 01:03:01.280 if somebody's dealing with some real mental illness, 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:06.559 that's go to a person that's a doctor that can 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.179 really support you and help you in that illness. 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:15.400 If the world adopted AIT and the Fuzhan app today 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:20.739 or tomorrow or whenever, how do you think that 01:03:20.739 --> 01:03:25.190 would... How do you feel that that would be different 01:03:25.190 --> 01:03:29.050 for all of us if we adopted that AIT and the 01:03:29.050 --> 01:03:33.309 Vujana? I think the beauty of this, my hope is 01:03:33.309 --> 01:03:34.949 that eight billion people on the face of the 01:03:34.949 --> 01:03:37.809 earth have access to it, have access and they 01:03:37.809 --> 01:03:42.010 can use it in any format that works. I'm hoping 01:03:42.010 --> 01:03:45.889 that suffering becomes less because I think there's 01:03:45.889 --> 01:03:49.369 a lot of issues that are in the world. But the 01:03:49.369 --> 01:03:53.300 suffering internally, is something that we can 01:03:53.300 --> 01:03:56.119 minimize by the way that we change our belief 01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.460 systems and thought process and behavior toward 01:03:58.460 --> 01:04:00.539 whatever is happening from the outside world. 01:04:01.019 --> 01:04:04.179 So I'm hoping to minimize that suffering. And 01:04:04.179 --> 01:04:07.559 I'm hoping that we could create a system and 01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.940 I'm working with people, we're bringing it into 01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:13.980 daycare, we're bringing it into school systems, 01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:18.179 we're teaching it in universities where the group 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.260 like, highest level of suicide is at this point 01:04:21.260 --> 01:04:23.019 with the high school and the first two years 01:04:23.019 --> 01:04:26.539 of college and that. So, you know, we're bringing 01:04:26.539 --> 01:04:29.119 it into universities and all of that. One of 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.099 the interesting things I just wanted to share 01:04:31.099 --> 01:04:34.579 with you, because this was really sweet to hear. 01:04:35.619 --> 01:04:39.599 There's a daycare in Tarzana. Dr. Manoukian has 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:42.519 about seven years ago. She said she had experienced 01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:45.039 AIT on herself. She really loved it. She said, 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:47.739 I want to create a daycare. She went across the 01:04:47.739 --> 01:04:51.250 world. you know, and to different places in child 01:04:51.250 --> 01:04:55.530 rearing and she got her PhD in developmental, 01:04:55.570 --> 01:04:58.389 you know, early childhood development. So she 01:04:58.389 --> 01:05:00.929 started with this daycare and we adapted this 01:05:00.929 --> 01:05:04.610 model to a proactive model of how to even, you 01:05:04.610 --> 01:05:06.829 know, kind of train infants and, you know, two 01:05:06.829 --> 01:05:08.670 -year -old and three -year -old and their parents 01:05:08.670 --> 01:05:11.510 in this model and move forward. So yesterday 01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:14.289 I was talking to her and we were talking about 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.860 how she wanted to extend this and write the manuals 01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:20.139 and do all of that so she could license these 01:05:20.139 --> 01:05:24.199 daycares with the concept of AIT. And I was sharing 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:26.420 with her about, well, this is how we want to 01:05:26.420 --> 01:05:29.340 talk to the child and as we're talking to the 01:05:29.340 --> 01:05:31.659 child. And she started laughing and she said, 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.639 I just want to share something with you. At the 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:36.500 beginning, when I started with the daycare, I 01:05:36.500 --> 01:05:40.210 had to teach this to each child. How to think 01:05:40.210 --> 01:05:42.769 what are the feelings? How do you behave? What 01:05:42.769 --> 01:05:44.829 do you do when you want something if something 01:05:44.829 --> 01:05:47.469 is happening in your body? It is an emotion how 01:05:47.469 --> 01:05:50.289 to recognize it how to release it how to say, 01:05:50.329 --> 01:05:52.429 okay I want to do this with this child. I want 01:05:52.429 --> 01:05:54.829 to go play but you know, they're taking my toy 01:05:54.829 --> 01:05:57.809 How do I do that? So I needed to do this with 01:05:57.809 --> 01:06:00.710 every single child who came into the sex is you 01:06:00.710 --> 01:06:04.650 know, the daycare And she said I realized this 01:06:04.650 --> 01:06:08.199 past year I haven't had to do that because the 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:12.280 kids who are here already and the staff and everybody, 01:06:12.420 --> 01:06:15.599 this has become part of the culture. So as a 01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:19.199 new child walks in, they just learn and walk 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.559 into this culture of becoming responsible about 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.289 their emotions, sharing it. Being loving to each 01:06:26.289 --> 01:06:31.130 other, working through coordinating, negotiating 01:06:31.130 --> 01:06:34.949 with each other. She said, I didn't even notice 01:06:34.949 --> 01:06:38.070 how effortless this thing has come because now 01:06:38.070 --> 01:06:41.590 the system has become a culture itself. So when 01:06:41.590 --> 01:06:44.949 you say what my hope is, is that that becomes 01:06:44.949 --> 01:06:48.550 part of the culture that from childhood we learn 01:06:48.550 --> 01:06:51.360 to become aware. We don't have to wait until 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.579 we're 30, and then we're like, oh, what happened? 01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.380 What did I do? We have to go clean up. But from 01:06:57.380 --> 01:06:59.599 childhood, we learn how to regulate our emotion. 01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.019 We gain these skills as we're growing up in our 01:07:03.019 --> 01:07:06.800 own community. We learn the skills to be responsible 01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.539 for who we are, to be accountable for what we 01:07:09.539 --> 01:07:13.440 do and what we say and all of it. And learn how 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.219 to, you know, intentionally live a beautiful 01:07:16.219 --> 01:07:18.719 life and be loving and courteous to each other. 01:07:18.940 --> 01:07:22.780 So that would be truly my dream if 8 billion 01:07:22.780 --> 01:07:26.980 people got access to it. Well, through like things 01:07:26.980 --> 01:07:29.599 like this, you know, people become more aware 01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:35.360 of the AIT concept and then also the Fujian app. 01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.579 And I think that's like you spoke to like someone 01:07:39.579 --> 01:07:44.670 of that age in the daycare, um, them having what 01:07:44.670 --> 01:07:47.409 we call it now, emotional intelligence, um, that 01:07:47.409 --> 01:07:49.550 kind of, that level of emotional intelligence 01:07:49.550 --> 01:07:53.150 and understanding at such an age that grows with 01:07:53.150 --> 01:07:55.829 them. And that's, that's pretty, that's pretty, 01:07:56.150 --> 01:08:00.269 that's great. Yes, absolutely. Because again, 01:08:00.730 --> 01:08:04.429 it's the skills. And if we weren't taught those 01:08:04.429 --> 01:08:08.269 skills as part of how we were growing up, we 01:08:08.269 --> 01:08:12.289 wouldn't have it. You know, if parents really 01:08:12.289 --> 01:08:15.510 learn the skills of really becoming aware of 01:08:15.510 --> 01:08:17.670 themselves, clean up what happened to them as 01:08:17.670 --> 01:08:20.989 they grow up while they're going, you know, they're 01:08:20.989 --> 01:08:24.689 working with the next generation, a lot of the, 01:08:24.689 --> 01:08:27.970 you know, multi -generational traumas would stop. 01:08:28.229 --> 01:08:31.350 Yeah. Because they would take care of themselves. 01:08:31.409 --> 01:08:34.550 They would heal themselves before they go and, 01:08:34.550 --> 01:08:37.539 you know, go into a union. then the way they 01:08:37.539 --> 01:08:39.800 choose a union would be different. Then when 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.500 they have a child, the way they raise their child 01:08:42.500 --> 01:08:45.039 would be different because they took care of 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.199 themselves. They took care of themselves, yeah. 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:56.140 This is wonderful. We're going around the conversation 01:08:56.140 --> 01:09:00.199 up here, but there's a couple things I want to 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:04.340 know. One is if You had one message to leave 01:09:04.340 --> 01:09:09.000 to someone who was silently struggling with being 01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:13.220 aware or just their emotional intelligence. What 01:09:13.220 --> 01:09:16.560 would that message be right now? I just want 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.460 to say there's nothing wrong with you. You just 01:09:18.460 --> 01:09:20.619 need to learn the skills and you can do it. You 01:09:20.619 --> 01:09:23.460 deserve it. And more than anything, I think you're 01:09:23.460 --> 01:09:27.140 responsible. You're fully responsible to take 01:09:27.140 --> 01:09:32.399 care of you. To learn how to be happy because 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.039 you deserve to be happy and it's a learned everything 01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.579 is learned every the moment We you know, we're 01:09:38.579 --> 01:09:41.119 learning when we're on our mother's wool. We're 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.420 learning these neural, you know Our brain is 01:09:44.420 --> 01:09:48.859 getting completely set So every angle is learning 01:09:48.859 --> 01:09:52.220 if this neuroplasticity is consistently working 01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:55.260 could be 90 years old It's still working. It's 01:09:55.260 --> 01:09:57.180 you know, you could you could work with it and 01:09:57.180 --> 01:10:01.369 it creates a more synapses. So we can choose 01:10:01.369 --> 01:10:06.649 how we need to grow. Yeah. We can choose how 01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:11.689 we need to grow. As your last words on the podcast 01:10:11.689 --> 01:10:14.449 today, the conversation has been great, first 01:10:14.449 --> 01:10:19.329 of all. Even though I didn't say it, there was 01:10:19.329 --> 01:10:21.149 a moment where I kind of teared up a little bit 01:10:21.149 --> 01:10:25.069 because it was really resonating with me what 01:10:25.069 --> 01:10:27.630 you were saying. But as your last words on the 01:10:27.630 --> 01:10:32.520 podcast today, Which way should I go? Well, first 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.439 of all, before you go to the last words, how 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:39.319 does someone get in touch with you? My own website, 01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:43.979 fujanzang .com, myname .com, awarenessintegration 01:10:43.979 --> 01:10:46.220 .com, if people want to know about awareness 01:10:46.220 --> 01:10:50.640 integration. fujang .com is about the app, so 01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.699 you could go there and learn about the app, or 01:10:52.699 --> 01:10:56.739 you could go into Apple and Android. And Android. 01:10:57.539 --> 01:11:02.250 We love you. Android, you got both so that, you 01:11:02.250 --> 01:11:04.550 know, both of both of those groups can have it 01:11:04.550 --> 01:11:05.989 and you could get it from Apple store. But if 01:11:05.989 --> 01:11:07.750 you want to learn about it more, you could definitely 01:11:07.750 --> 01:11:12.029 go to Fuzhang .com. So any of these three, three 01:11:12.029 --> 01:11:14.729 websites will lead you and get more information. 01:11:14.789 --> 01:11:17.529 All the social media, you know, you could contact 01:11:17.529 --> 01:11:20.250 me through any of the social media that you like. 01:11:21.369 --> 01:11:24.250 Dr. Fuzhang Zayn are there. Right. We'll have 01:11:24.250 --> 01:11:26.210 that all in the description. And yes, this is 01:11:26.210 --> 01:11:28.659 an Android. Okay, and there's the here's the 01:11:28.659 --> 01:11:32.699 app right here. Before it went further, but there's 01:11:32.699 --> 01:11:35.779 the monthly plan, quarterly plan and a yearly 01:11:35.779 --> 01:11:40.060 plan here. Three days free. So go check out the 01:11:40.060 --> 01:11:44.840 three days free. Yeah, play with it and see if 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:48.260 you like it and then take it on. Perfect. Perfect. 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:52.840 Perfect. Perfect. So again, we brought it back. 01:11:52.979 --> 01:11:57.229 So for your last words on the podcast, What's 01:11:57.229 --> 01:11:59.270 on your mind, your spirit that you would love 01:11:59.270 --> 01:12:02.710 to just share with people as we're closing up 01:12:02.710 --> 01:12:05.750 this conversation? I think love is our essence. 01:12:06.789 --> 01:12:09.670 And what I say with love is an essence of just 01:12:09.670 --> 01:12:12.489 acceptance of what is and who we are and who 01:12:12.489 --> 01:12:15.409 humanity is, who every one of us are. But to 01:12:15.409 --> 01:12:20.289 look at each other from love. I love that. I 01:12:20.289 --> 01:12:26.340 love that. That's the essence of our connection. 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.359 It's the essence of our connection together. 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:34.920 And we can't live without each other. No human 01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.859 can live without each other. So I think we should 01:12:37.859 --> 01:12:42.539 just get it together and live together with love. 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.539 I mean, that's who we are. Our essence is love. 01:12:47.020 --> 01:12:50.100 And Michael, for 30 years, 32 years, every time 01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:53.140 that I work with someone, when you took off this 01:12:53.140 --> 01:12:57.949 pain, Love showed up. You didn't have to insert 01:12:57.949 --> 01:13:01.510 it. You just took off the pain and love showed 01:13:01.510 --> 01:13:07.210 up. So we're love. You know, that's who we are. 01:13:07.250 --> 01:13:10.609 We are that essence of acceptance and there's 01:13:10.609 --> 01:13:13.930 just energy of love. And it's like, you know, 01:13:14.069 --> 01:13:18.329 take off this mud that keeps creating, you know, 01:13:18.390 --> 01:13:20.170 and we keep creating. And the minute you take 01:13:20.170 --> 01:13:25.300 that off, this love shines. And again, we're 01:13:25.300 --> 01:13:30.159 species. Like any other species, maybe not panda 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:33.079 bears, which are alone, but species of human 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:38.199 being are, we're herd. And, you know, we need 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:42.319 to look at how to bring this herd together globally 01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:48.140 and just be, you know, grateful. About grateful 01:13:48.140 --> 01:13:51.920 of who we are. Look at what the species has done. 01:13:52.140 --> 01:13:55.720 the beauty of what we have created. It's a beautiful 01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:59.699 species. We just need to be grateful for who 01:13:59.699 --> 01:14:06.600 we are and stop the separation. Stop the separation 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:09.460 with who we are and stop separating from each 01:14:09.460 --> 01:14:14.840 other. From each other. I love that. Once you 01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:19.020 take up the pain, love shows up. That's amazing. 01:14:20.419 --> 01:14:24.180 Dr. Vujon, thank you so much for not only being 01:14:24.180 --> 01:14:26.699 here, but really being present in the moment, 01:14:27.220 --> 01:14:32.060 sharing your heart and sharing what could make 01:14:32.060 --> 01:14:35.000 a difference in people's lives and in the world. 01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:38.260 So thank you for being here. Thank you for the 01:14:38.260 --> 01:14:42.600 opportunity. Absolutely. Absolutely. And our 01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:46.739 question of the day or the week is what's one 01:14:46.739 --> 01:14:50.590 limiting belief or thought you're ready to rewire 01:14:50.590 --> 01:14:54.210 starting today. And make sure you get the app, 01:14:54.609 --> 01:14:58.149 get your three days free, and then keep it. And 01:14:58.149 --> 01:15:02.829 as we always say, let's make thriving our new 01:15:02.829 --> 01:15:06.250 normal. See you next week. Before you go, I just 01:15:06.250 --> 01:15:08.170 want to say thank you. 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