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I was raised in a world where the only thing

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I knew was somebody telling me when I was young,

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Pericles, you're going to always have debt, so

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don't worry about that. And I thought, OK, I'm

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going to always have debt, so it's OK. And the

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more debt I had, I'm like, well, he said it was

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OK. That's just the way it is. And so I lived

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in this broken relationship with money where,

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OK, it's OK to have debt. And then in my 20s,

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late 20s, I realized, whoa, this is out of control.

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So what would you say to somebody that is hoping

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to discipline themselves? to, you know, get better

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with their money. I think the first and most

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important thing is to get present to what is

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it you truly want in your life. And I think for

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some people, you're gonna be like, I just like

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it the way it is. And if that's where you are,

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great. This is not the conversation for you.

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And I got no judgment about that. That's totally

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fine. This isn't for everyone. There are a lot

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of people that will hear this and like, yeah,

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that's fine. But if you're truly in a place where

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you know what I'm done with this. I'm done with

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whatever it is I've been doing and I really want

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to start creating and building wealth then look

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to see what is that that you truly want. If we

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say to ourselves I want money to flow to me easily

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and abundantly every single day and then we see

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a penny on the ground and say yeah but I don't

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want that. You just shifted from I want money

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to flow to me easily and abundantly to I don't.

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So it is all about I'm declaring right now that

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I have financial freedom, that I have a sense

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of enough. Now does that mean I never want to

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make more money? No, it doesn't mean that at

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all. It just means I'm living in a state of,

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a declared state of financial freedom. Because

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I say so. I've gotten things into a place of

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whatever that place is where I can now declare

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I am in a state of financial freedom. Now I continue

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to do and create the games that I like to play

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on a financial level like this What I'm playing

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for next this is what I'm going for next Does

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not mean that we stop because that we live in

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a world where we're either contracting or expand

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We're walking through a 22 -week series built

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hearing your voice and can't wait to see you

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in the group. But for right now, let's get into

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it. What if your relationship with money is really

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a reflection of your relationship with yourself?

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What if the key to true wealth isn't found in

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your hustle, but in your healing? So today I'm

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sitting down with Pericles relish the transformational

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mind behind reset your financial thermostat to

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explore how shifting your money mindset can unlock

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lasting prosperity, purpose, and peace. So whether

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you're a new entrepreneur or building your next

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big thing, this conversation could be the breakthrough

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that you'll be waiting for. So let's get right

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into it. And once again, Pericles, how you doing?

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Michael, I'm doing great. It's great to be here.

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Thanks for having me on. Yeah, man. Again, I'm

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excited to have you on. My producer, she was

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in love with, you know, all the information that

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she's got from you. And so with that being said,

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what's like on your mind today? Like what's like

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the forefront of your mind? Yeah, you know, it's

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so interesting. You should say that because I

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just posted something from this morning. I was

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talking to a client who is hyper stressed out

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about kind of everything that's going on right

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now. You know, there's just a little bit of chaos

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happening. And regardless of where you fall on

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the political spectrum, it's not a political

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conversation. It's about people being stressed.

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And the first thing I tell people when they start

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to deal with stress is, okay, You need to disengage

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from that which is causing you stress. And what

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we find out is people are reading the news every

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morning. They're reading the markets every morning.

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They're reading the social media posts and then

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they're reposting and they're ranting and they're,

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you know, you can feel the energy just start

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to take them over. And the first thing that I

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recommend to them is you got to disengage. You

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got to stop watching all of those social media

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posts. You've got to stop reading all the news.

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None of it's going to change. And you getting

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stressed out and freaked out isn't going to make

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any difference. It's only going to impact you

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on a day to day basis. And it's going to start

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to impede your ability to thrive in this world

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to create the kind of success that you want.

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So that's what's that's really what's on my mind

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this morning. You know, I second that. I felt

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victim to that because you know, owning a business

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and you've seen how things go and then you're

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looking at what's going on in the media. I find

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myself like, I think they call it doom scrolling

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or whatever. And looking at certain things, but

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I had to can be aware of what's happening, but

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also had to disengage from really falling victim

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to the stories that I keep hearing because there

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may be truth to it, but it's not maybe necessarily

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the truth to what can happen in your world. So

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I had to kind of disengage with that. So yeah,

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yeah. So we just have to remember to that the

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media is the media is there to get ratings. And

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so that's their purpose, they're going to do

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what they need to do to bring in more people

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and that and the same thing for social media,

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you know, they want that clickbait, they want

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something that's shocking, that pulls people

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in. Well, that's great. We need to make sure

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we're taking care of ourselves focus on what

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you can change focus on what you can make a difference

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in focus on the things that you love, the people

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that you love, the work that you love, get back

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to work, do what you do, do what you love. And

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the rest will get sorted out. They all get sorted

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out always does. Well said. Yeah, it always does.

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Right. And I believe that this is the kind of

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mindset that you have when we talk about money.

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And this is how we're going to get deep into

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it. I'm sure that, you know, people who are watching

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or listening, they have lots of questions about,

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you know, money mindset and maybe a shift that

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they may need. I know I do have some questions

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about that, but you talk about your relationship

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with money and you stated that our relationship

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with money is a mirror of our relationship with

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ourselves and the world around us. Can you talk

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about that a little bit more? Yeah, it's something

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that's evolved over the years that I've been

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doing this, but I've really started to see it

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more clearly that when we have doubts about ourselves,

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Or when we have issues with ourselves, with who

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we are, that's reflected in our relationship

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with money. Well, I have doubts about whether

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I'm gonna make enough money. I have doubts about

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whether it's enough money. I have doubts about

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whether it's whatever it is we're questioning.

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Well, I look and notice, well, you're questioning

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yourself. And so of course you're gonna be questioning

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whether or not you have enough money. If you

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don't have enough joy in your life, Well, then

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that's gonna reflect on I need more money for

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joy I need more money for joy I need more money

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for joy and you're down this rabbit hole or on

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this hamster wheel of Trying to get joy in your

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life by bringing more money into your life. Well

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money's not gonna bring you joy Money might bring

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you things that will have you experience something

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in a joyful way But the source of your joy the

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source of your happiness the source of your fulfillment

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all come from within So if we're looking for

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money to supply that to or provide that for us,

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it's not gonna work. And that's why a lot of

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people end up in a broken relationship with money.

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Because they say, if I just get to $100 ,000,

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everything will be fine. If I just get to $200

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,000, everything will be fine. And they keep

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hitting these milestones, but it's never fine.

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And so when we stop and we look and we say, okay,

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I gotta stop looking at money and start looking

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at myself. And I realize, wow. I could actually

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get joy in my life or I could get the sense of

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fulfillment, satisfaction, love in my life right

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now. Whether the money ever comes or not, I've

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got in my life that sense of security, that sense

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of joy and happiness. Then that opens it up for

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money to actually flow to us rather than us trying

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to fight our way to get enough money to have

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that thing in our life. Why do you think people

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get it so backwards? I think it's the world we

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live in. We live in a social media world. We

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live in a world where we see people pretending,

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and this is not everyone, but there are a lot

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of people pretending to live a, quote unquote,

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jet set life. And it looks like they're happy

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and it looks like, oh, they've got these amazing

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lives and lifestyles and all of this. But we

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don't really see what's behind the curtain. And

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so we want to emulate that. And we think, wow,

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if I if I look like I have a lot of wealth, then

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everybody's going to think I'm really cool, and

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they're going to think I'm wealthy, and I'm going

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to be happy. Well, in fact, the exact opposite

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is what's going on. I'm most people not all there

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are some content creators out there who are actually

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experiencing that kind of wealth, they're experiencing

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that kind of success. But a lot of them are actually

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going into debt, trying to create the illusion

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that they've got wealth. And so we as people

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who are consuming this, we take that on and we

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think, okay, all I need to do is buy the expensive

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clothes, but I can't afford it, but I'll put

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it on a credit card and I'll just pay the minimum

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payment. And then I keep building debt to build

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this sense of people for people thinking I have

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wealth, but I don't. It's the reverse. And then

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we end up in this bankrupt situation where we've

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got the weight of this debt on our shoulders.

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nothing to show for it, but a bunch of clothes

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that nobody really cares about. And so I think

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in that relationship to social media and the

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world that we live in, that's why we've gotten

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it backwards. We would rather go into debt to

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look like we have wealth than actually have the

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wealth and give up caring about what anybody

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else thinks about us. Yes. First of all, yes.

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You know, one thing, there was a lot of things

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happening in my mind when you ended. One is,

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this is social media content, what we're doing

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here. One of the things that I wanted to make

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sure as we build this is that we come across

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authentic, you know, we have authentic conversations.

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authenticity was there. And that when we have

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these conversations that people can get something

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from the conversations and not something that

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where they can scroll to and be like, Oh, that

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person has a Corvette or, you know, this and

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that, but it's not really theirs. It's rented,

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you know what I mean? Things like that, right,

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and really bring forth true content that will

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support people in, you know, in, in their life.

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And when you talk about people listening, you

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know, looking at the social media content, and

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then, you know, getting this false narrative,

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really, does that's in there is consuming that?

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Does that and then they're going out trying to

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be the emulate these, these people? Do you think

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that speaks to their mindset? And if, if it does,

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how can they change or shift that mindset of

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trying to be like someone else? Yeah, I think

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Michael, it speaks to our lack of bringing awareness

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to what our relationship to money is. Most people,

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if you're like me, when I was raised, we never

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talked about money. My parents never talked about

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money. My parents were first generation, you

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know, they were children of immigrants. So my

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grandparents were immigrants. And they just never

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spoke about money. And so I was raised in a world

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where you didn't talk about it. You didn't ask

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about it. You certainly never questioned it.

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And so I then was raised in a world where the

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only thing I knew was somebody telling me when

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I was young, Pericles, you're gonna always have

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debt. So don't worry about that. And I thought,

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okay, I'm gonna always have debt. So it's okay.

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And the more debt I had, I'm like, well, he said

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it was okay. That's just the way it is. And so

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I lived in this broken relationship with money

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where okay, it's okay to have debt. And then

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in my 20s, late 20s realized, whoa, this is out

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of control. Something's got to give you something's

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got to shift. And then the other part of it was

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my mom saying when I was very young, to a show

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we were watching called lifestyles of the rich

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and famous. I know that you remember that show.

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Yeah, it's like we're dating ourselves here.

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But it was like, you know, this amazing show

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that we used to it was one of the original real

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almost reality shows. But it was about this family.

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Very wealthy, very successful. And they were

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completely broken. Just a disaster of a family.

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And my mom at the end of the show said very nonchalantly

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with no agenda. I never want to have that much

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money. You'll lose your whole family. And in

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that incident, six year old Boyd said, I never

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want to have that much money. I'm going to lose

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my whole family." Now that undistinguished mindset

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created the trajectory of my financial future.

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Two aspects to it. One is debt's okay. And two

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is you never want to have that much money because

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you'll lose your whole family. And so one became

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my glass ceiling for how much money I could make

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and keep. And the other one became the burden

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that I kept dragging along with me in the form

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of debt. And when we stop, And for those of you

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who are listening to this and you're thinking

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to yourself, what do I do next? Just bring awareness

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to what is your relationship with money. And

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if the first thing you say is, well, I never

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thought about it before, great. That's the first

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step. Now start to think about it. What do you

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think about when you start to talk about money?

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What are the thoughts and what are the feelings

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and emotions that come up for you around money

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when you start to think about it or talk about

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it? Is it stress? Is it anxiety? Is it dread?

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Is it I don't want to talk about this. Is it

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something else? Because the moment we bring it

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from that kind of survival part of our brain

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into the frontal cortex where we're thinking

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about it. We're bringing that critical thinking.

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Suddenly we start to look at it newly and then

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we've got all sorts of brain science things that

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start to occur where we create new neural pathways

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for those who are familiar with Dr. Joe Dispenza

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or those who are familiar with Abraham Hicks.

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We start to create a new vibrational frequency

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and those shifts are where we now start to create

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our world. rather than living in a world that's

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predetermined based on decisions we made when

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we were six years old or five years old or 10

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years old. And that's the first step is bringing

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that awareness and start having the critical

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thinking conversations around it and then see

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what opens up from there. The awareness. Okay,

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so. I like you talked about when your brother,

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I think you said your mother said that you'll

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always be broke. Is that what she said? Somebody,

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I don't remember who it was, but somebody close

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to my family said, apparently you're gonna always

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have debt. Don't worry about it. You're always

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gonna have debt. So in that vein, you took that

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on, and that's how you lived. And basically,

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did you always have debt? And then when you shifted,

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How did your relationship with money evolve over

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the 25 years or so that you've been doing, doing

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this? Yeah. So there was, I remember the first

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time I got my first credit card and I thought,

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Oh, I've arrived. I got my first card. This is

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awesome. And I think it had like a $1 ,500, you

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know, credit line or something like that or credit

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limit. And it was so exciting. And I remember

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the first thing I did was go out with one of

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my friends and I paid for lunch, you know, because

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it was like so cool to be able to do that. And

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then what happened was it started to snowball

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and it started to take over. So you're going

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out with friends and you want to impress everyone.

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You know what? I'm gonna pay for everybody's

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dinner tonight. Everybody's like, oh, wow, Pericles,

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thank you so much. And it's this false sense

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of love and security. Like, people like me because

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I'm paying for things, and then we start to associate

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that to, okay, if I pay, everybody's gonna like

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me. They're gonna be my friends. I'm gonna be

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the cool guy. And that's the path that I fell

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into. And so I wanted to be the sport. I wanted

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to be the successful one. I wanted people to

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think that. And the way for me to get that across

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them was to be paying for things. And then it

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became buying things that I couldn't afford,

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whether it was clothes or jewelry or car, whatever

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it was, it was always something that was about

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what other people would think of me. And that's

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where I got it backwards. And it was very early

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on. And then when I got to be around 30, there

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was just thousands of dollars with a credit card

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debt. And this was a while ago. So you know,

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having $15, $20 ,000 of credit card debt's huge.

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And it's just a burden. And it becomes, I can

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make the minimum payment, I can make the minimum

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payment, I can make the minimum payment. Now

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my cards gotten declined. Now I need to get another

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card so that I can continue to spend. And then

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there's this moment when we I said, Okay, no

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more. And it was around the time that I started

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this education. I started creating this work

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myself. And I started to really look at what's

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my relationship to myself and to money. So my

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relationship to myself was I'm only somebody

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of value when other people think I am. When other

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people are thinking I'm cool, thinking I'm the

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sport, thinking I'm the wealthy guy. Well, that

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relationship is bankrupt. That's not gonna work.

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That's not gonna sustain itself. And when I stopped

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that and I started to see, okay, I'm actually

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my own person. I can determine the future. I

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can determine who I am and how my life goes,

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freed up from what anybody else thinks of me.

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And in that moment, I stopped worrying about

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what other people thought of me. And I started

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focusing on what is it I want in my life? Well,

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I want prosperity. I want wealth. I want a sense

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of fulfillment in my own life, a sense of enough.

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And that's what my focus became. So I wouldn't

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go out to dinner with people unless I had the

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money set aside and I was paying cash and I wasn't

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paying for anybody else anymore. And I was making

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sure that I was paying down that debt. And then

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I got the debt disappeared. And then it all became

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about creating wealth. And in the beginning,

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and I want to make this clear because I've worked

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with people who said, Pericles, my only focus

00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:29.890
right now, paying off debt. paying off debt,

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paying off debt. And I say, great, you need to

00:19:31.950 --> 00:19:34.309
shift your focus because we get what we focus

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on. Yeah. So if your sole focus is paying off

00:19:37.470 --> 00:19:39.309
debt, what you're going to continue to create

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is more debt. So you have the thing to focus

00:19:42.349 --> 00:19:45.069
on that you've created to focus on. It sounds

00:19:45.069 --> 00:19:47.410
like a, you know, kind of a catch 22, but it's

00:19:47.410 --> 00:19:50.970
so easy to fall into that trap. Focus on building

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wealth. The debt will disappear as you focus

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on building wealth. Same thing for, there are

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a lot of great content creators out there, but

00:20:00.339 --> 00:20:04.359
they say, create an emergency fund. No, do not

00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.680
create an emergency fund. Because when you create

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an emergency fund, what are you setting yourself

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up for? An emergency? Emergencies, yeah. That's

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the only reason for an emergency fund to exist

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is to have emergencies. So you will naturally

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have emergencies. I had somebody else that said

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there's a reserve fund, was another word. Well,

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a reserve fund is reserved for when you need

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a reserve fund. Create a wealth fund. Create

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a prosperity fund. Because when you're creating

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that, anything that's unexpected that might show

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up, I've got it covered. Yeah, but start there.

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So creating and building wealth was what I really

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started to focus on. And then it didn't make

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any difference to me what people thought about

00:20:41.390 --> 00:20:43.849
me, what people said about me, because I knew

00:20:43.849 --> 00:20:47.029
what I'm creating is my future the way I want

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it to be created. And so in that moment is when

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I shifted and then started building this and

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creating this education with my clients, and

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then delivering it to my clients and watching

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the results kind of go. off the charts. And then

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they started sharing it with friends and family

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and coworkers or people that they knew who were

00:21:06.099 --> 00:21:08.119
entrepreneurs. And then it kind of took off.

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And for the last 25 years, that's been my focus

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as a money mindset expert. Money mindset. Can

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you talk, can you share an example of a story

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of one of your clients that shifted just so people

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can relate to something? Yeah, this is I have

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several let me think which one I'm going to share

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this one I had a client that I worked with who

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was an attorney. And she was she since past and

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but she was one of the top appellate attorneys

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in her state. So this was somebody who had created

00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:45.549
briefs that went to the Supreme Court. And this

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is so cool, right? So just this hugely successful

00:21:48.710 --> 00:21:50.710
appellate. When I first started working with

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her, I said, Okay, so let's look at your, your

00:21:53.769 --> 00:21:55.930
financial situation. Let's just look at you know,

00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:58.309
how much you bring it in, how much does it cost

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you every much? I don't know any of that. Okay,

00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:05.539
we what are your expenses? I don't know. Okay.

00:22:05.619 --> 00:22:07.640
Well, let's get all your bills out. I need to

00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.519
go to my car. Why do you need to go to your car?

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She would pull up to her house every day, open

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up the mailbox from her car, pull everything

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out. She'd go through all the bills, throw them

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in the backseat and then keep everything else

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and go up to her house and she'd leave her bills

00:22:20.539 --> 00:22:23.799
in the backseat. So she had overdue notices and

00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.339
she had bank charges and overdraft. It was just

00:22:27.339 --> 00:22:30.960
a mess. And this is someone who's so successful

00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.920
in her career. so what we had to do was then

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start shifting her relationship to the mailbox

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and the mail and Looking at the bills and understanding

00:22:42.700 --> 00:22:45.680
where she was flowing her money to and being

00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.279
empowered around Understanding what was so about

00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.079
her financial situation and what so is I bring

00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:55.579
in this amount and I'm spending this amount And

00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:57.700
we're suddenly like, okay, we need to close that

00:22:57.700 --> 00:22:59.980
gap. That's the first stage, closing the gap

00:22:59.980 --> 00:23:02.460
so we can get you where you're at least at a

00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:04.960
break even point at the end of every month. Then

00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:08.000
once we got there, we're able to now create.

00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:10.920
this kind of a gap. And the difference between

00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.460
here and here is what you're flowing into your

00:23:13.460 --> 00:23:15.380
that I like to call it reservoir on the side

00:23:15.380 --> 00:23:18.180
that we get to keep, where it's my savings for

00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:22.180
my future, my retirement, my next car, my next

00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:25.160
vacation, I'm actually putting money away for

00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.220
all of those things. So that when my next vacation

00:23:28.220 --> 00:23:30.660
comes up, all I have to do is look at my vacation

00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:33.000
fund and say, Well, I've got $3 ,000 in there,

00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:35.400
my next vacation is going to cost me three grand,

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And then I go on vacation, I put it on a credit

00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:12.259
card that gets points. When I come back, I pay

00:25:12.259 --> 00:25:14.640
that off. And with those points, I've actually

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.200
gotten a bonus for my next trip. And so she made

00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:20.900
that shift and went from this person that was

00:25:20.900 --> 00:25:23.380
just chaotic and no idea what she was spending,

00:25:23.819 --> 00:25:26.500
spending hundreds of dollars every month in overdraft

00:25:26.500 --> 00:25:29.759
fees and bank fees and charges to someone who

00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.339
actually was saving and actually building a sense

00:25:33.339 --> 00:25:35.519
of wealth in her life. And it's that kind of

00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.039
thing that just Lights me up. I get so excited

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.200
when those kinds of things happen. Yeah, especially

00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.700
when you get to help people like that and She

00:25:43.700 --> 00:25:49.619
and the shift in their lives. So yeah There okay,

00:25:49.779 --> 00:25:54.039
so a while ago I learned To keep envelopes. I

00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.079
don't know where I learned from the key envelopes

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.799
puts whatever vacation phone or whatever put

00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.759
that money aside in the envelopes I just want

00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.400
to kind of kind of it may be a curveball. I don't

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:08.309
know but what if The person that we're trying

00:26:08.309 --> 00:26:13.150
we're trying to reach has very little money.

00:26:14.309 --> 00:26:19.470
Where do they start from? Yeah, the the very

00:26:19.470 --> 00:26:21.670
first step for anyone and I want to be really

00:26:21.670 --> 00:26:23.569
clear about this because I know that there are

00:26:23.569 --> 00:26:26.569
people out there that are dealing with some extraordinary

00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:29.109
circumstances and they're very, very challenging

00:26:29.109 --> 00:26:32.829
and I do not take that lightly and I am not making

00:26:32.829 --> 00:26:35.630
light of that at all. The majority of people

00:26:35.819 --> 00:26:40.819
who are dealing with a financial challenge. The

00:26:40.819 --> 00:26:43.339
majority of them fall into the category of, they

00:26:43.339 --> 00:26:46.279
just don't even know what's going on. And there's

00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.059
no sense of, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this.

00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:52.599
And that's really the people in this conversation

00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.579
that I'm speaking to who are starting there.

00:26:54.619 --> 00:26:56.259
Then they're your entrepreneurs. People who make

00:26:56.259 --> 00:26:57.859
a lot of money, they just don't know where their

00:26:57.859 --> 00:26:59.940
money goes. There's another conversation for

00:26:59.940 --> 00:27:02.779
you. right? There's got to reset that, right?

00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:05.099
But for people who are in that middle ground,

00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.299
and they're just kind of like, I don't know what's

00:27:06.299 --> 00:27:07.940
going on. That's the first thing you have to

00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.900
do is figure out what's going on. It's the exercise

00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:12.839
I give to all my clients when I first start working

00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:14.220
with them. All right, for the next two months,

00:27:14.539 --> 00:27:16.019
all you're going to do is track your spending.

00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:19.339
I want to know every penny that you spend. We're

00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:21.839
going to track it on a sheet. How much are you

00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.400
spending on groceries? How much are you spending

00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.119
on household goods? How much is your rent or

00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.160
your mortgage? How much is your insurance for

00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.180
your home, for your car, for your health? There

00:27:30.180 --> 00:27:32.299
are all these things. How much are your streaming

00:27:32.299 --> 00:27:35.259
services? How much is everything? So we're going

00:27:35.259 --> 00:27:37.119
to look at every credit card. We're going to

00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.960
look at every debit card. Cash. I want to know

00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:41.839
exactly where. Do you know how many times people

00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.400
go to the store and tap? tap, tap, debit, debit,

00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.559
debit, debit and Starbucks and it's here and

00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.660
it's there and they're spending hundreds of dollars

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:51.740
every single month and it's just like disappears.

00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:57.079
So we get that to what so and then we look at

00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.900
well what's your income? I can't say how many

00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:00.420
people don't even know how much they make every

00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.000
month. They have no clue. They will I think it's

00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.319
about they don't know right so we get those two

00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.940
numbers and then we compare them. And most people

00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:12.240
start to freak out. They're like, Oh, my God,

00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.740
I spend more money than I make every single month.

00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.279
And that's why your debt keeps going up. That's

00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.220
why your credit cards keep going up, because

00:28:20.220 --> 00:28:23.680
they close the gap using credit cards. So that's

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.259
when now we know what's going on. Oh, the car's

00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:29.859
got a flat tire. Now we know what the problem

00:28:29.859 --> 00:28:33.400
is. Now we can create the solution. So now we

00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.259
start to look at well, here's all the places

00:28:36.259 --> 00:28:39.009
here all the places you're spending money. Now

00:28:39.009 --> 00:28:41.650
you get to choose. Where do you actually want

00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:43.890
to spend your money? And they start looking at

00:28:43.890 --> 00:28:45.710
like, well, I don't need that anymore. And I

00:28:45.710 --> 00:28:47.309
don't need this anymore. And I don't need this.

00:28:47.509 --> 00:28:50.609
And they start to trim the fat. And they start

00:28:50.609 --> 00:28:52.630
to get responsible about where they're spending

00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:55.289
their money. Now we've gotten that to where we're

00:28:55.289 --> 00:28:57.950
here. Then they start to look at, okay, well,

00:28:57.950 --> 00:29:00.589
how can I make more money? How can I start to

00:29:00.589 --> 00:29:03.650
move from just that break even to actually making

00:29:03.650 --> 00:29:06.509
more than I earn, making more than I spend every

00:29:06.509 --> 00:29:09.839
month? Whoa, that's a whole nother world. We

00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.099
move from being what I call behind the flow,

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:15.220
to being in the flow, which is at the top of

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:18.220
the wave, to being ahead of the flow, where you're

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.079
now making more every month than you're spending.

00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:22.940
And that momentum starts to push us. So the first

00:29:22.940 --> 00:29:25.480
place is you got to figure out what sell, get

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:27.640
to the bottom line, and then you can create your

00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.200
strategies. It's so great that you said that

00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.359
because as soon as you were talking about the

00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.319
store, I was like, what's so right? So basically

00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.859
from the beginning of the conversation for me,

00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.420
it was like awareness, right? Figuring out the

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:44.500
what's so in your situation, like the actual

00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:47.940
actualities of your finances. And then what also

00:29:47.940 --> 00:29:51.180
came to me is discipline. There's a there's probably

00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:53.619
a discipline that that when it comes to finances,

00:29:53.619 --> 00:29:57.359
is really tough for people. Or they maybe they

00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.200
create the story of it being tough. I don't know.

00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:06.269
Right. What would you say around trying to really

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:09.829
disciplines yourself in the, in the, the activities

00:30:09.829 --> 00:30:13.910
of, you know, saving your money and knowing where

00:30:13.910 --> 00:30:16.869
to look at your money. Cause I know I have, I

00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:18.369
had to figure it out. Like, where's my money

00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:20.750
going? Like what's going on? And once I realized

00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:23.009
that, thank you to rocket mortgage and whatever

00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:25.470
the apps are, you know, I kind of figure things

00:30:25.470 --> 00:30:28.410
out and I cut things off and then a different,

00:30:28.410 --> 00:30:32.190
you know, flow came with my finances. So what

00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:34.369
would you say to somebody that's just that? is

00:30:34.369 --> 00:30:38.470
hard for them to discipline themselves to get

00:30:38.470 --> 00:30:42.190
better with their money. I think the first and

00:30:42.190 --> 00:30:44.630
most important thing is to get present to what

00:30:44.630 --> 00:30:48.170
is it you truly want in your life. And I think

00:30:48.170 --> 00:30:49.970
for some people, you're going to be like, I just

00:30:49.970 --> 00:30:52.079
like it the way it is. And if that's where you

00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.079
are, great. This is not the conversation for

00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:55.839
you and I got no judgment about that. That's

00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.119
totally fine. This isn't for everyone. There

00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:59.420
are a lot of people that will hear this and be

00:30:59.420 --> 00:31:01.579
like, yeah, I'm not doing that. And that's great,

00:31:01.779 --> 00:31:04.819
right? I'm just, that's fine. But if you're truly

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:06.519
in a place where, you know what, I'm done with

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.039
this. I'm done with whatever it is I've been

00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.279
doing and I really want to start creating and

00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.180
building wealth, then look to see what is that

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:17.339
that you truly want. I want to be able to buy

00:31:17.339 --> 00:31:19.990
my first house. Or I want to be able to buy a

00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:22.029
car and pay cash. I just want to be out of debt.

00:31:22.670 --> 00:31:25.410
Whatever that may look like for you, you want

00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:27.910
to get really clear about what it is you want

00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:31.069
and let that source you. Because when we're clear

00:31:31.069 --> 00:31:34.630
about what we want and that we truly want it,

00:31:34.910 --> 00:31:37.430
then the actions start to line up with that.

00:31:37.930 --> 00:31:40.869
It becomes much, much easier. And for a lot of

00:31:40.869 --> 00:31:43.410
people, when you get that clarity about what

00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:46.930
you want, then it's a matter of Are you willing

00:31:46.930 --> 00:31:50.430
to do the work to see what you need to do in

00:31:50.430 --> 00:31:53.349
order to get where you want to be? So, in other

00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:55.130
words, I want to get in shape. Great. Are you

00:31:55.130 --> 00:31:57.789
willing to look in the mirror and see what's

00:31:57.789 --> 00:32:00.950
so? Most people, they don't want to look at it.

00:32:00.990 --> 00:32:02.109
They're like, I don't want to know what's going

00:32:02.109 --> 00:32:04.289
on in my finances. I don't want to look at myself

00:32:04.289 --> 00:32:07.210
naked. It's ugly, right? This whole conversation.

00:32:07.549 --> 00:32:10.109
But until we're willing to confront it, we're

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:12.210
not going to be able to deal with the what's

00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:14.490
so. Then when we get to the what's so about it.

00:32:15.149 --> 00:32:18.450
Then we start to see, okay, juxtaposing where

00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:21.710
I am with where I want to be. This is where I

00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:24.230
want to be. And this is all that I'm committed

00:32:24.230 --> 00:32:28.029
to is where I want to be right now. What is what's

00:32:28.029 --> 00:32:30.250
the first step? Well, the first step is I got

00:32:30.250 --> 00:32:32.710
to stop spending more than I make, or I got to

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:35.529
start bringing in more money. and being responsible

00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:39.089
for managing that flow, right? Those actions

00:32:39.089 --> 00:32:42.089
will come with that true commitment to getting

00:32:42.089 --> 00:32:44.490
to where you want to be. So it's that future

00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:47.210
that you want to create and getting really clear

00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:50.289
about it. And then those actions will line up.

00:32:50.390 --> 00:32:53.049
And then filling the gap with, I don't know how

00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:55.369
to do this, finding somebody who can help you

00:32:55.369 --> 00:32:58.210
with that. Finding somebody you trust, finding

00:32:58.210 --> 00:33:00.750
somebody that you know as a track record that

00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:04.410
can then help you with that. All right, so I

00:33:04.410 --> 00:33:07.049
got my four steps awareness. What's so discipline

00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:12.470
and a commitment? Absolutely. This is all great.

00:33:13.230 --> 00:33:15.809
And for all the knowledge that you have, you

00:33:15.809 --> 00:33:18.990
turn it into a program, which is your, your financial

00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:22.150
thermostat program. You created that and what

00:33:22.150 --> 00:33:24.049
inspired you to create that? I mean, you probably

00:33:24.049 --> 00:33:26.309
said a little bit about it already, but what

00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:28.069
exactly inspired you to create that program?

00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:31.779
Yeah, it was it was by default really that it

00:33:31.779 --> 00:33:34.440
happened. I was working as a business coach and

00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.039
I wanted my clients to make more money. I wanted

00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.000
them to be successful. And that's what I started

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.500
doing with my clients. And some of them were

00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:44.180
business owners. Others were like the attorney,

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.539
they were just they wanted to be more successful.

00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:49.920
And what I found in the very early stages was

00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.460
they started making more money, which was so

00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:54.559
awesome. I was excited, right? It was the thing

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.250
I wanted for them. And yet every single month

00:33:58.250 --> 00:34:00.029
at the end of the month, they were still in the

00:34:00.029 --> 00:34:02.450
same situation they were before they started

00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:04.730
working with me. Meaning, if they were somebody

00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:06.829
that was just treading water at the end of every

00:34:06.829 --> 00:34:09.349
month, they were still just treading water. I'm

00:34:09.349 --> 00:34:11.590
like, wait, wait, you're making a lot more money.

00:34:11.829 --> 00:34:13.789
How is some people are making twice as much?

00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:16.369
How is it possible that you're still just treading

00:34:16.369 --> 00:34:18.769
water? Or if they were behind every month, they

00:34:18.769 --> 00:34:21.710
were still just behind or there were a couple

00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:24.030
that were just like I'm making more money. I'm

00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:26.130
keeping more money, but I'm still stressed. I'm

00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:29.510
still worried. I still have anxiety. This can't

00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:32.329
be happening. This just doesn't make sense. And

00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:34.570
I realized that there was something, there was

00:34:34.570 --> 00:34:37.579
a theme going on here. And I stepped back and

00:34:37.579 --> 00:34:39.360
I looked at him and said, okay, there's something

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.639
bigger going on here than just making more money.

00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.460
Because making more money I thought was going

00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:45.840
to solve it all. And that's when I started to

00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.900
explore it. And I started to study it. And I

00:34:47.900 --> 00:34:49.619
started to research it. And I started to really

00:34:49.619 --> 00:34:52.019
delve into this, like, what is happening here?

00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:54.690
I shared with my clients about it. So, okay,

00:34:54.750 --> 00:34:56.570
guys, something's going on here, and I'm going

00:34:56.570 --> 00:34:58.550
to start looking at it. I'm going to figure this

00:34:58.550 --> 00:35:02.289
out. And over the next two years, I really distinguish

00:35:02.289 --> 00:35:05.449
two things. One is that we all have this thing

00:35:05.449 --> 00:35:08.190
called a financial thermostat. It's our money

00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:10.590
mindset, but I like the word thermostat because

00:35:10.590 --> 00:35:12.329
we can all relate to a thermostat. We know what

00:35:12.329 --> 00:35:15.769
it is. And so that thermostat, that financial

00:35:15.769 --> 00:35:20.179
thermostat regulates Black and white. It is just

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.139
like a thermostat in our home. How much money

00:35:22.139 --> 00:35:24.960
we can earn, how much money we can keep, and

00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.760
our thoughts, feelings, and emotions around money.

00:35:27.219 --> 00:35:30.219
It is that simple. That's all it does is it regulates

00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:32.340
those three things. And then the second thing

00:35:32.340 --> 00:35:35.960
were the four keys to resetting our financial

00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.659
thermostat so that we could actually earn more,

00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.119
we could keep more, and we can have a whole different

00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.619
experience around money. And so I started implementing

00:35:44.619 --> 00:35:48.099
those distinctions with my clients. And that's

00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:51.099
when it just The lid just got blown off and they

00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:53.280
started making more, keeping more, having this

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.300
amazing experience around money and their life

00:35:56.300 --> 00:35:58.780
and their lifestyles changed. And that's when

00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:01.019
I really started focusing on that. Then I built

00:36:01.019 --> 00:36:02.599
the program out and then I started delivering

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:04.559
it. And then it was kind of like just one thing

00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.019
after another. It just organically took off from

00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:09.599
there. That's what it sounds like. Now, how do

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:15.420
we identify our current financial thermostat?

00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:19.809
Probably the easiest thing to do to stop and

00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:22.809
look at how it is right now. If you were to look

00:36:22.809 --> 00:36:26.849
at how much am I able to earn and do I keep bumping

00:36:26.849 --> 00:36:29.170
up against the ceiling or am I able to continue

00:36:29.170 --> 00:36:31.750
to earn more and more and more? Great. Your financial

00:36:31.750 --> 00:36:34.610
thermostat for how much money you can make is

00:36:34.610 --> 00:36:38.170
probably set pretty high. Then look at, well,

00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:39.889
how much am I able to keep? Because I know a

00:36:39.889 --> 00:36:41.730
lot of people I've worked with, they can make

00:36:41.730 --> 00:36:44.429
tons of money, but they can't keep it. It just

00:36:44.429 --> 00:36:46.030
disappears at the end of every month. I don't

00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:49.119
know where my money went. So they may have a

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:50.639
financial thermostat setting where they can make

00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.920
a lot of money, but they just can't keep it.

00:36:53.260 --> 00:36:56.300
And then look at what are your emotional states

00:36:56.300 --> 00:36:58.960
around money. When you think about money, when

00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.199
you talk about money, when you engage or interact

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.380
with money, what are your thoughts, feelings,

00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.300
and emotions around it? If you're excited, great.

00:37:07.460 --> 00:37:09.260
That's your financial thermostat around money

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:11.739
in terms of emotions, thought, feelings, emotions.

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.099
Are you stressed? Are you worried? Do you shut

00:37:14.099 --> 00:37:17.190
down? some people just shut down. That's your

00:37:17.190 --> 00:37:20.230
emotional financial thermostat setting. So look

00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:21.730
at those three things. And that will tell you

00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:24.070
exactly what your setting is. And I bet I know

00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:29.889
what your next question is going to be. Well,

00:37:29.989 --> 00:37:31.989
I'm gonna because you went you talked about it.

00:37:32.849 --> 00:37:37.809
And just personally, I know that I had to teach

00:37:37.809 --> 00:37:42.449
myself about finances and money and wealth and

00:37:42.449 --> 00:37:46.869
all that kind of stuff like because I had kind

00:37:46.869 --> 00:37:51.690
of a dichotomy between my mom's side and my dad's

00:37:51.690 --> 00:37:56.969
side, right? So I saw where, you know, once one

00:37:56.969 --> 00:38:01.570
parent worked and struggled, then I saw one parent

00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:04.809
who owned business worked and they were fine,

00:38:04.889 --> 00:38:10.980
you know? And so I think my mentality was like

00:38:10.980 --> 00:38:12.820
kind of caught in the middle, you know, some

00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:15.360
I would earn and then I was like, where's where's

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.480
my money? You know, then I get it back and then

00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.139
find where's my money again. So I had to teach

00:38:21.139 --> 00:38:25.780
myself. And so it's, I think a lot of beliefs

00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:29.360
were probably negative. So can someone reset

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.440
their financial thermostat even with the negative

00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.920
beliefs? Yeah. Was that the second question you

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.179
think I was going to ask? Yeah, that was it.

00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:39.360
How do we reset our financial thermostat? Exactly

00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.760
right. You just went about it in a really cool

00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.960
way because it tied something together, which

00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:48.480
I love. So the first thing to resetting our financial

00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.699
thermostat that I want people to understand is

00:38:50.699 --> 00:38:53.820
that money is a universal band of energy. And

00:38:53.820 --> 00:38:57.380
as a band of energy, it flows like energy, like

00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:02.239
water or electricity or air. Now, It's a currency.

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.440
And so it flows like a current, but it flows

00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.179
in a unique way. It flows in a circle. So if

00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:10.360
this is us, this is money, it flows in a circle

00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.280
to us through us and away from us and background

00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.739
to us through us and away from us. And then I

00:39:14.739 --> 00:39:16.639
talked about it earlier, that reservoir on the

00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.639
side that we get to keep now because money flows

00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:24.190
in a circle, blocks anywhere in that flow. are

00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:26.210
blocks everywhere in that flow. So we can have

00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:28.150
blocks in the flow of money coming to us, then

00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:29.969
blocks in the flow of money going away from us,

00:39:29.969 --> 00:39:31.730
and we can have blocks in the flow going to that

00:39:31.730 --> 00:39:35.250
reservoir on the side that we get to keep. Those

00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:37.630
blocks are those negative conversations around

00:39:37.630 --> 00:39:41.570
money that we have. So for me, it was if you

00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:42.889
make too much money, you're going to lose your

00:39:42.889 --> 00:39:46.110
whole family, or debt is okay. You're going to

00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:47.849
always have debt, so don't worry about it. Those

00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:50.809
are actually blocks in the flow. And so when

00:39:50.809 --> 00:39:53.269
I was able to notice the block and then clear

00:39:53.269 --> 00:39:56.710
the block out, suddenly that flow of money increased.

00:39:57.210 --> 00:39:59.429
And it's the same thing for our emotional states.

00:39:59.650 --> 00:40:03.090
We've got negative emotions associated with the

00:40:03.090 --> 00:40:05.150
flow of money. Money's the root of all evil is

00:40:05.150 --> 00:40:07.809
a great one. Yeah, you know, if I have too much

00:40:07.809 --> 00:40:09.210
money, I'm going to go to hell or I'm going to

00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:11.170
be a bad person or whatever that looks like.

00:40:11.489 --> 00:40:13.329
All of those are just negative money mindset.

00:40:13.630 --> 00:40:15.329
Those are all blocks in the flow of money when

00:40:15.329 --> 00:40:18.989
we clear them out. We're then resetting our financial

00:40:18.989 --> 00:40:21.369
thermostat so we can earn more, we can keep more,

00:40:21.630 --> 00:40:23.690
and we can have a better relationship with money

00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:28.210
and better experience around money. Yeah. So

00:40:28.210 --> 00:40:30.730
do you think we're talking about negative beliefs?

00:40:31.469 --> 00:40:33.510
Does that plays in that's the subconscious, right?

00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:37.130
It plays in subconscious. And are these patterns

00:40:37.130 --> 00:40:41.369
that are kind of like financial sabotage? Yeah,

00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:45.210
I've watched I've watched entrepreneurs that

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:48.829
I was working with, they had one of them had

00:40:48.829 --> 00:40:53.010
a quarter of a million dollar month, huge, huge,

00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:56.590
huge month, and then could not deal with it,

00:40:56.610 --> 00:40:59.110
their financial thermostat was not set for it,

00:40:59.230 --> 00:41:02.889
sabotage it went out of business. That's how

00:41:02.889 --> 00:41:05.489
powerful these these blocks in the flow of money

00:41:05.489 --> 00:41:07.869
are. Our financial thermostat is just like a

00:41:07.869 --> 00:41:09.809
thermostat in a room. So if your room temperature

00:41:09.809 --> 00:41:14.010
set at 72, and it's freezing outside and the

00:41:14.010 --> 00:41:16.469
windows open and that cold air comes in and the

00:41:16.469 --> 00:41:19.070
room comes down to like 60. It's going to kick

00:41:19.070 --> 00:41:20.989
on the heat and it's going to bring that temperature

00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:23.590
right back. It's the same thing for money. If

00:41:23.590 --> 00:41:25.469
your financial thermostat is set for a certain

00:41:25.469 --> 00:41:28.030
amount of money and income, I don't care how

00:41:28.030 --> 00:41:31.460
much money you make. This is why lotto but loud

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:33.840
lotto winners go broke within the first five

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.460
years 80 % of them They bring all this money

00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:39.400
and we think I've got it made no their financial

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.659
thermostat kicks on and it just starts disappearing

00:41:41.659 --> 00:41:43.559
money and disappearing money and disappearing

00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.760
money and Suddenly they're upside down and they

00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.539
go bankrupt That's a function of that financial

00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:53.039
thermostat. So these blocks in the flow will

00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.980
literally come in and have you disappear money

00:41:55.980 --> 00:41:58.619
to bring it down to where you're set. And the

00:41:58.619 --> 00:42:00.960
same thing for emotions. I've worked with people

00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.940
who are billionaires, billionaires on the Forbes

00:42:03.940 --> 00:42:06.760
list, billionaires, and they're miserable. Their

00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.320
emotional state is such that they never enjoy

00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:11.440
anything. With all this money, you think, oh

00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.019
my gosh, you should have the most amazing life

00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:16.090
in the world. Not so. That's a financial thermostat

00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:18.329
around their emotions, being in a place where

00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:21.349
they're always unhappy. Now I've worked with

00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:22.670
people in the opposite where they don't have

00:42:22.670 --> 00:42:24.929
much money at all. And yet they're completely

00:42:24.929 --> 00:42:27.929
happy. They're completely filled fulfilled in

00:42:27.929 --> 00:42:30.989
their lives. Yeah, so it's not the money. It's

00:42:30.989 --> 00:42:33.670
the relationship. It's that that financial thermostat

00:42:33.670 --> 00:42:37.570
setting that's most important. So how can someone

00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:40.349
tell the difference between money problem and

00:42:40.349 --> 00:42:44.190
a money pattern? Well, you look and see is the

00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:47.670
problem is the pattern a problem? So the pattern

00:42:47.670 --> 00:42:49.730
you have around money is something that's great.

00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:52.050
Is it good for you? Well, I've got this pattern

00:42:52.050 --> 00:42:53.989
around money every time I think about it. I make

00:42:53.989 --> 00:42:57.449
it Okay, does that make you happy? Yes, great

00:42:57.449 --> 00:43:00.010
I've got this pattern around money every time

00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:02.829
I try to make it I lose it Are you happy with

00:43:02.829 --> 00:43:06.730
that? No, then you can associate No, this is

00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:08.789
not something I want in my life This is a block

00:43:08.789 --> 00:43:11.650
in the flow and I want to clear it And for most

00:43:11.650 --> 00:43:17.030
people, it's pretty easy when, if you say, I

00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:18.849
want to make a lot of money, what's the first

00:43:18.849 --> 00:43:20.769
thing that comes to your head? That little voice

00:43:20.769 --> 00:43:23.809
that whispered, nah, you're too stupid. You're

00:43:23.809 --> 00:43:26.550
not worth it. Nah, you won't ever do that. Not

00:43:26.550 --> 00:43:30.389
for you. You'll fail again. Exactly. You'll fail

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:34.090
again. Exactly. That is a block in the flow.

00:43:34.230 --> 00:43:36.989
It's that simple. For some people, it's easier

00:43:36.989 --> 00:43:38.730
to hear. For other people, we just need to stop

00:43:38.730 --> 00:43:41.150
and listen for a second. We're not used to listening

00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:44.090
to that voice, but it runs the show. This is

00:43:44.090 --> 00:43:46.929
why affirmations don't work. This is why people

00:43:46.929 --> 00:43:50.250
who are genuinely trying to manifest, they've

00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:52.150
read all the books, they've listened to all the

00:43:52.150 --> 00:43:54.210
Abraham Hicks, they've done Dr. Joe Dispenza,

00:43:54.489 --> 00:43:57.469
they cannot manifest for the life of them. And

00:43:57.469 --> 00:44:01.469
it's because they're manifesting on top of poison

00:44:01.469 --> 00:44:04.360
soil. that block in the flow. She said, okay,

00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:05.960
I'm going to make a million dollars. I'm going

00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.699
to make a million dollars. Not for you. Not going

00:44:08.699 --> 00:44:11.420
to happen. That negative mindset. Now let me

00:44:11.420 --> 00:44:14.099
give you, can I give you the four steps to clearing

00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:18.599
those negative blocks in the flow? Number one.

00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:22.360
Number one is you have to notice it and own it.

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.559
Number one. Okay. Let's use money's the root

00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.019
of all evil. Cause this is a great one. I think

00:44:27.019 --> 00:44:30.059
a lot of people will have this. So I want to

00:44:30.059 --> 00:44:31.900
make $1 million. No money's the root of all evil.

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.159
Oh, wow. I've had that conversation for decades.

00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.420
I can own that. That's it. It's just you're gonna

00:44:38.420 --> 00:44:40.860
own it that I've had that conversation. You don't

00:44:40.860 --> 00:44:42.320
want to give it any credence. You don't want

00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:43.940
to give it any power. You don't want to give

00:44:43.940 --> 00:44:46.280
it any agreement. Just Okay, I've got that conversation.

00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.739
There it is. Number one, step two. Let it go.

00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.780
You have to actually say I let this conversation

00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:58.639
go. I release it into the care of the universe

00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.199
or into the care of God, into the care of the

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.420
trees, the forest, the ocean, whatever. It's

00:45:04.420 --> 00:45:06.719
something outside of you. You have to say it

00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.119
out loud. You cannot do this in your head. I

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.420
let this conversation go and I release it into

00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:14.079
the care of the universe. It is no longer mine.

00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.199
It is no longer welcome in my world. It no longer

00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.099
has dominion over me. However you want to say

00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:21.960
it, you keep saying it until you get a sense

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.000
of Wow, I actually felt that conversation kind

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.019
of move away from me a little bit. It doesn't

00:45:27.019 --> 00:45:30.239
have to be complete, but just a little bit. Now,

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.639
this is going to be hard for a lot of people,

00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:35.659
because it's become part of our identity. It's

00:45:35.659 --> 00:45:37.559
become part of who we are. We're familiar with

00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.920
it. We're actually addicted to it. It runs the

00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.679
show. It does it runs the show. So it's kind

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.079
of like saying, you know what, I'm going to remove

00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.920
my right arm. And that's not easy. So if you

00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:51.000
find yourself resisting it, it's okay. It's because

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.980
you're so familiar with this conversation. It

00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:57.139
is part of who you are. You are literally excising

00:45:57.139 --> 00:46:00.099
it out of your identity. So say it over and over

00:46:00.099 --> 00:46:02.280
and over again until you get that sense of release

00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.000
relief. Then in that moment, step number three,

00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.300
what relationship do you want to have with money

00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:12.710
now? Completely that you've let that old conversation

00:46:12.710 --> 00:46:16.150
go. So now what is it you do want? Well, for

00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:18.230
me in that moment, because this was one of the

00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:21.730
conversations that I had was money flows to me

00:46:21.730 --> 00:46:27.550
easily and abundantly every single day. It is

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:29.889
short and concise. There are people out there,

00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:31.929
they're going to want to write a Tolstoy novel

00:46:31.929 --> 00:46:34.090
on it. No, this is not what we're doing here,

00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:36.789
guys. We are literally creating something that

00:46:36.789 --> 00:46:39.769
inspires you that lights you up. And it will

00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:42.469
show up from your heart, not from your head.

00:46:43.469 --> 00:46:45.610
Because when you've let go of that old conversation,

00:46:45.769 --> 00:46:48.050
your heart's going to open up and suddenly, this

00:46:48.050 --> 00:46:49.489
space is going to open up and you're going to

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:51.769
think and it will just be there. Money flows

00:46:51.769 --> 00:46:53.769
to me easily and abundantly every single day.

00:46:53.909 --> 00:46:55.650
And then you want to say it over and over and

00:46:55.650 --> 00:46:58.050
over again, you want to feel it, you want to

00:46:58.050 --> 00:47:00.889
feel that energetic shift in your body, mind

00:47:00.889 --> 00:47:03.949
and spirit, you will feel it right here in your

00:47:03.949 --> 00:47:07.349
heart. And that's when you write it down. Okay,

00:47:07.409 --> 00:47:09.489
got it written down, you want it on your nightstand,

00:47:09.489 --> 00:47:11.750
you want it on your mirror in the bathroom, you

00:47:11.750 --> 00:47:14.030
want it on your computer, you want it on your

00:47:14.030 --> 00:47:16.030
rear view mirror, you want it everywhere, so

00:47:16.030 --> 00:47:18.710
that you can keep getting present to it every

00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:23.280
day. Wake up to it. and feel it, go to bed, feel

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.780
it. And then throughout the day, that's step

00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:29.760
number three. Now the fourth step, really important

00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.059
step. Now go out and watch it manifesting in

00:47:34.059 --> 00:47:38.400
your life. Look for it showing up. A lot of people

00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:39.699
will go out and they'll just like, well, it's

00:47:39.699 --> 00:47:42.340
not here. It's not here. I don't see it. I don't

00:47:42.340 --> 00:47:45.099
see it. Didn't work. And they've just killed

00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:48.789
it all off. Versus Yes, they do. It's like looking

00:47:48.789 --> 00:47:50.590
at the seeds waiting for them to germinate, but

00:47:50.590 --> 00:47:52.010
they're not there and then we dig them up. Nah,

00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:54.889
they didn't grow. Next thing. No, you have to

00:47:54.889 --> 00:47:57.190
allow it to nurture and germinate. You have to

00:47:57.190 --> 00:47:59.170
look for it and look for it. If you find a penny

00:47:59.170 --> 00:48:01.949
on the ground, there it is. Thank you for showing

00:48:01.949 --> 00:48:05.289
me that money flows in my life easily and abundantly

00:48:05.289 --> 00:48:09.050
every single day. Pick that penny up. One year,

00:48:09.070 --> 00:48:12.289
I actually found almost $800 and found money.

00:48:12.449 --> 00:48:14.289
Just walking through my day, going through my

00:48:14.289 --> 00:48:17.670
life. And I put that money in a special vessel

00:48:17.670 --> 00:48:20.429
in my house. That was my found money vessel.

00:48:20.710 --> 00:48:22.610
And every time I came home, I would put that

00:48:22.610 --> 00:48:24.230
money in there and I would just thank it and

00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:26.989
acknowledge it and acknowledge that money flows

00:48:26.989 --> 00:48:29.170
to me easily and abundantly every single day.

00:48:29.590 --> 00:48:33.429
And so look for it showing up in not just money,

00:48:33.429 --> 00:48:36.909
but in conversations. Whoa, so and so just talked

00:48:36.909 --> 00:48:39.730
to me about a business possibility or a job potential

00:48:39.730 --> 00:48:42.449
or this potential or a revenue stream potential.

00:48:42.690 --> 00:48:45.889
You don't have to take them all. Engage in them.

00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:48.369
Be open to them. Look at them and acknowledge

00:48:48.369 --> 00:48:51.210
them as opportunities. And those are the four

00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:53.429
steps. And you take on those four steps. You

00:48:53.429 --> 00:48:55.429
do them over and over and over again. And that

00:48:55.429 --> 00:48:58.150
old conversation, it will show up. It's never

00:48:58.150 --> 00:49:00.909
going to go away. It will get quieter and quieter

00:49:00.909 --> 00:49:03.130
and quieter and less frequent. And every time

00:49:03.130 --> 00:49:05.170
it shows up, do the four steps again. Oh, there's

00:49:05.170 --> 00:49:07.829
that old conversation. I'm letting you go. This

00:49:07.829 --> 00:49:10.610
is who I am now. This is who money is for me.

00:49:10.809 --> 00:49:12.909
And then continue to look for it manifesting

00:49:12.909 --> 00:49:15.440
in your life. Yeah, when that when that voice

00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.599
shows up for me, I'm like, Okay, yeah, you're

00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.440
here. Thank you. Bye. You know, exactly. You

00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.239
just leave it alone. You can't win a battle with

00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.579
your mind. No, you can't win about don't fight

00:49:24.579 --> 00:49:27.000
it. Just acknowledge it. Let it be knowledge

00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.920
and then move on. Yeah. Yeah. And you gave me

00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.139
a tip. I when I find money, I don't care if it's

00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:35.940
a penny or a dime or whatever. I'm like, Oh,

00:49:35.980 --> 00:49:39.420
look at this. I get some little change. And then

00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:42.500
I'll I have a little bag or whatever, full of

00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:45.619
change. And that's my phone money, but I'm gonna

00:49:45.619 --> 00:49:48.619
put a label on it and say found money. Yeah,

00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:51.599
exactly. And what's so important about this is

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.480
especially for people who are in the Abraham

00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.659
Hicks conversation and the vibrational frequency

00:49:56.659 --> 00:50:01.059
conversation, Dr. Joe Dispenza, is if we say

00:50:01.059 --> 00:50:03.760
to ourselves, I want money to flow to me easily

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.119
and abundantly every single day. And then we

00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.500
see a penny on the ground and say, yeah, but

00:50:07.500 --> 00:50:11.920
I don't want that. You've just shifted from I

00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.119
want money to flow to me easily and abundantly

00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.380
to I don't. The universe doesn't distinguish

00:50:17.380 --> 00:50:19.179
between a penny, a dollar, and a million dollars.

00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.199
It's the same thing, it's money. It's all the

00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.739
same. So that vibrational frequency is so important

00:50:24.739 --> 00:50:28.539
to maintain and continue to acknowledge it every

00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:31.619
time it shows up in your life. I love that. I

00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.340
love that. And it's, again, it's a discipline

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:37.219
that we have to continue to continually do over

00:50:37.219 --> 00:50:41.099
and over again. So remind ourselves. Yes, people

00:50:41.099 --> 00:50:43.659
think and there's so much content. I keep seeing

00:50:43.659 --> 00:50:46.659
this on my TikTok feed, right? It's like, Oh,

00:50:46.739 --> 00:50:49.800
I'm manifesting for you a million dollars right

00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.860
now if you watch this video and like it. That

00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:56.500
is just clickbait guys. I and I just I want to

00:50:56.500 --> 00:50:58.840
say this so that people are really clear. This

00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.599
is not magic. That's not how this works. This

00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.829
is not some kind of mystical thing. This is actually

00:51:06.829 --> 00:51:09.510
you doing the work, you have to do the work,

00:51:09.590 --> 00:51:13.650
you have to think, feel and then go out and watch

00:51:13.650 --> 00:51:16.630
for it manifesting in your life. It is not like

00:51:16.630 --> 00:51:19.349
a one and done. When you look at it, it's not

00:51:19.349 --> 00:51:21.730
like winning the lottery. If you relate to it

00:51:21.730 --> 00:51:23.849
that way, it's never going to work for you. But

00:51:23.849 --> 00:51:26.429
if you truly take on you know what I do want

00:51:26.429 --> 00:51:29.909
this I can feel it right now. I'm going to manifest

00:51:29.909 --> 00:51:32.510
because I said so and I can feel it and then

00:51:32.510 --> 00:51:36.030
go out and look for it. It will show up. Yeah,

00:51:36.329 --> 00:51:38.429
some of those things there show up in conversations

00:51:38.429 --> 00:51:41.409
like I know, like, like if you want a new house

00:51:41.409 --> 00:51:43.489
or something like that, write it down and put

00:51:43.489 --> 00:51:45.550
a picture up and then you know, really, like

00:51:45.550 --> 00:51:48.090
you said, you know, follow those steps. And sometimes

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:51.010
it shows up in a conversation, you know, unbeknownst

00:51:51.010 --> 00:51:54.570
to you. And for me, that's like, okay, that's

00:51:54.570 --> 00:51:58.389
the, you know, the environment really speaking

00:51:58.389 --> 00:52:02.869
to my belief, and it's shifting to, you know,

00:52:02.909 --> 00:52:04.900
the feature that I'm creating for myself. even

00:52:04.900 --> 00:52:06.599
in conversation, even though the house is not

00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.360
there yet. The conversation is now present. Yeah,

00:52:11.179 --> 00:52:14.260
it takes time for things to go from the energetic

00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:16.920
thought to the physical manifestation in the

00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.840
world. But the more we talk about it, the more

00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.820
we focus on that thought. the more it will come

00:52:23.820 --> 00:52:26.699
to fruition, like you said, through those conversations.

00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.119
Well, that that conversation that thought now

00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.920
has more mass. It's not just me talking about

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.860
it. It's other people talking to me about it.

00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.139
It's all of those things coming together. And

00:52:37.139 --> 00:52:40.099
it will, it just has to be that's the as they

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:42.880
say, law of attraction, it is the law that is

00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.840
that is that, which is like into itself is drawn,

00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.599
it will be drawn to you if you focus on it enough,

00:52:49.699 --> 00:52:51.579
even going back to the teachings of the Buddha.

00:52:51.690 --> 00:52:55.090
We are what we think. The more we think it, the

00:52:55.090 --> 00:52:57.389
more we create it, the more it exists in our

00:52:57.389 --> 00:53:03.670
world. Yes. And a lot of, a lot of what we talk

00:53:03.670 --> 00:53:06.829
about here is also purpose. And so in that the

00:53:06.829 --> 00:53:09.309
world of, you know, creating, creating, you know,

00:53:09.409 --> 00:53:12.429
their financial freedom in that space, how does

00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:14.989
one get that connection of financial freedom

00:53:14.989 --> 00:53:18.880
and discovering their purpose? Yes, and I think

00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:24.800
if in that question it's all about your It's

00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.860
understanding what money can provide us and what

00:53:26.860 --> 00:53:31.679
money can't provide us so financial freedom Only

00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.679
exists as a declaration It doesn't exist as a

00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.239
true state of being by virtue of some physical

00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.559
thing So we're we're getting into a real kind

00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.340
of philosophical conversation here, and I love

00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:48.880
these so it is all about I'm declaring right

00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.579
now that I have financial freedom, that I have

00:53:51.579 --> 00:53:54.219
a sense of enough. Now does that mean I never

00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:55.800
want to make more money? No, it doesn't mean

00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.380
that at all. It just means I'm living in a state

00:53:58.380 --> 00:54:02.300
of, a declared state of financial freedom because

00:54:02.300 --> 00:54:05.480
I say so. I've gotten things into a place of

00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.239
whatever that place is where I can now declare

00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:12.130
I am in a state of financial freedom. Now I continue

00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:14.869
to do and create the games that I like to play

00:54:14.869 --> 00:54:17.329
on a financial level like this is what I'm playing

00:54:17.329 --> 00:54:20.670
for next This is what I'm going for next Does

00:54:20.670 --> 00:54:23.090
not mean that we stop because that we live in

00:54:23.090 --> 00:54:25.530
a world where we're either contracting or expanding

00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.599
We are never standing still. Estasis does not

00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.460
exist. If you take a dollar and put it under

00:54:30.460 --> 00:54:33.239
a mattress, it's not worth the same in five days,

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.780
in 10 days, in five years. It's worth less. That

00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:39.460
is contraction. We have to take that dollar and

00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:42.019
do something with it. Same thing with a relationship.

00:54:42.579 --> 00:54:44.900
And I love to equate how we relate to money to

00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:47.760
how we relate to a significant other. If most

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.659
people related to a significant other the way

00:54:49.659 --> 00:54:53.179
they relate to money, they'd be single. They'd

00:54:53.179 --> 00:54:55.739
be single. I want it when I want it. When it's

00:54:55.739 --> 00:54:57.179
here, I just want to show it off. So everybody

00:54:57.179 --> 00:54:59.159
thinks I'm cool. I don't think about it when

00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.320
it's not there. I never really appreciate it.

00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.219
I never concerned myself. Well, how where's this

00:55:04.219 --> 00:55:08.019
going? It's just like that. Seriously, that relationship

00:55:08.019 --> 00:55:10.239
would be over in a nanosecond. Yeah. But if we're

00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:12.460
thinking about money when it's not there, how

00:55:12.460 --> 00:55:15.159
do I be as Jack Nicholson said, and as good as

00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.219
it gets, you make me want to be a better man.

00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:19.579
You make me want to be better in this relationship.

00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.380
How do I make this relationship with money better?

00:55:22.650 --> 00:55:25.869
How do I create in such a way so that lasts forever?

00:55:26.949 --> 00:55:28.909
How do I have it be better every single day?

00:55:29.090 --> 00:55:31.570
How do I nurture it and appreciate it and love

00:55:31.570 --> 00:55:34.050
it and enjoy it and have it enjoy being with

00:55:34.050 --> 00:55:36.329
me? Those are all the kinds of conversations

00:55:36.329 --> 00:55:38.449
that we want to have around money. Because when

00:55:38.449 --> 00:55:40.630
we have those conversations, suddenly it's fun

00:55:40.630 --> 00:55:43.250
to be around money and money wants to be around

00:55:43.250 --> 00:55:47.570
us. So relate to it in a way that inspires you.

00:55:48.059 --> 00:55:50.880
that calls you forth. And these are the things

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.139
that will, as we were saying earlier, call forth

00:55:54.139 --> 00:55:56.599
the actions that are consistent with those thoughts.

00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.280
The actions will naturally show up. And if you

00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.960
don't know what the actions are, you will seek

00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:05.320
out someone who will share with you and who's

00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.800
an expert who can give you what those actions

00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:09.300
are. Just like saying, I don't know how to get

00:56:09.300 --> 00:56:11.139
into shape. What are you gonna do? We're gonna

00:56:11.139 --> 00:56:13.340
go hire an expert. I'm gonna go find a trainer

00:56:13.340 --> 00:56:16.099
that speaks to me in a way that I can relate.

00:56:16.139 --> 00:56:18.159
I'm gonna hire them and I'm gonna do what they

00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:23.219
say. Yeah. When I went off on a tangent there,

00:56:23.380 --> 00:56:29.699
I apologize. Please just do it because it's all

00:56:29.699 --> 00:56:33.659
it's all valuable what you're sharing and it

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:38.659
it works. So it's perfect. In the same what kind

00:56:38.659 --> 00:56:42.739
of the same vein about shifting our money story.

00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.940
How does that? Well, how does shifting our money

00:56:46.940 --> 00:56:50.719
story affect our relationships and our self worth?

00:56:51.820 --> 00:56:54.699
Yeah, I think when we as again, in our relationship

00:56:54.699 --> 00:56:57.059
is it with money is a mirror to our relationship

00:56:57.059 --> 00:57:00.840
with ourselves. If we stop saying things like

00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:05.360
I'm broke, I can't afford it. And we start saying

00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.360
I am worth it. And I'm creating wealth in my

00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.250
life. I am creating prosperity in my life. Suddenly,

00:57:12.550 --> 00:57:14.710
our relationship to ourselves changes because

00:57:14.710 --> 00:57:17.230
we're no longer diminishing ourselves. We're

00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:20.190
no longer talking down to ourselves. We are no

00:57:20.190 --> 00:57:22.849
longer putting ourselves in a box of, well, I

00:57:22.849 --> 00:57:25.230
could never do that. How many times have you

00:57:25.230 --> 00:57:27.409
heard people say that getting on an airplane,

00:57:27.809 --> 00:57:29.650
walking through first class? Oh, we can never

00:57:29.650 --> 00:57:31.349
afford these. We can never afford these. Just

00:57:31.349 --> 00:57:33.730
keep walking. We can never afford. Well, what

00:57:33.730 --> 00:57:36.110
are you saying? You're saying that you're not

00:57:36.110 --> 00:57:38.510
good enough to afford that. So yes, you're never

00:57:38.510 --> 00:57:40.369
going to be able to afford that. Absolutely.

00:57:41.389 --> 00:57:45.190
Whereas you stop saying those things, then suddenly

00:57:45.190 --> 00:57:47.789
you're empowering yourself. Now you're having

00:57:47.789 --> 00:57:50.889
a new conversation. And when the more you have

00:57:50.889 --> 00:57:53.769
this new conversation, the more that conversation

00:57:53.769 --> 00:57:57.230
becomes the quality of your life, the predominant

00:57:57.230 --> 00:58:01.869
conversation in your life. And it's not a a one

00:58:01.869 --> 00:58:04.230
and done. And it is not a we're going to close

00:58:04.230 --> 00:58:07.429
the divide in a nanosecond. We can close the

00:58:07.429 --> 00:58:10.289
divide on a mindset in a nanosecond. I can literally

00:58:10.289 --> 00:58:13.409
shift my mindset to be a millionaire in a nanosecond.

00:58:13.650 --> 00:58:16.969
Now for it to manifest in the world takes a little

00:58:16.969 --> 00:58:20.389
bit of time. But in that nanosecond, my mindset

00:58:20.389 --> 00:58:22.750
shifts, my whole perspective on life shifts.

00:58:23.170 --> 00:58:25.530
Now all the actions that I take are consistent

00:58:25.530 --> 00:58:28.469
with that and I'm seeing the fulfillment of that.

00:58:28.670 --> 00:58:33.230
If we take a little action every single day towards

00:58:33.230 --> 00:58:36.219
the goal that we're committed to, Over a period

00:58:36.219 --> 00:58:38.900
of time, we are going to be so much closer to

00:58:38.900 --> 00:58:42.059
our goal. If we want to circumnavigate the globe

00:58:42.059 --> 00:58:45.159
at the equator, if when we leave in the plane,

00:58:45.179 --> 00:58:48.380
we're off just by one tiny degree, one tiny degree,

00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.599
when we get to the other all the way around the

00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:52.900
world, we're going to be thousands of miles off

00:58:52.900 --> 00:58:55.780
of where we originally planned to be. So that

00:58:55.780 --> 00:58:59.820
little shift will have a huge difference at the

00:58:59.820 --> 00:59:02.559
end of a period of time. So just make one little

00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:05.610
change every single day. Yeah, and consistently

00:59:05.610 --> 00:59:07.829
every single day, you will see the quality of

00:59:07.829 --> 00:59:11.570
your life shift forever. Make a little change

00:59:11.570 --> 00:59:14.449
every day be consistent and in that space though.

00:59:16.869 --> 00:59:19.449
There will be the tough times, right? Yeah, you

00:59:19.449 --> 00:59:22.230
know the the load times the tough times. What

00:59:22.230 --> 00:59:25.250
do you say to somebody who is really working

00:59:25.250 --> 00:59:28.090
hard and really trying to manifest and really,

00:59:28.090 --> 00:59:30.909
you know, speaking to that that that negative

00:59:30.909 --> 00:59:34.380
voice? that's saying you're not enough or whatever

00:59:34.380 --> 00:59:37.239
it is and they keep going on this, you know,

00:59:37.619 --> 00:59:39.360
this roller coaster. What do you say to them

00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.880
to help them make it through those times so they

00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.719
can continue to manifest and really see results

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.880
in their life? Yeah, there are always going to

00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:53.780
be times in our life that maybe things are happening

00:59:53.780 --> 00:59:56.840
that aren't what we would rather. And I speak

00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.780
from experience. I've been through the eye of

00:59:59.780 --> 01:00:02.360
the needle more than once and I know that the

01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.880
way life goes is just gonna happen again. There's

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.699
no way around it. It's who I get to be in the

01:00:08.699 --> 01:00:13.139
face of it happening. That's what makes the biggest

01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:15.900
difference. There are people who are hobbled

01:00:15.900 --> 01:00:19.179
by it. something happens and then they're hobbled

01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:21.099
and they give up their lives. Okay, I just got

01:00:21.099 --> 01:00:23.280
to deal with this and everything's just it's

01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.360
a shit show. Pardon my French now it's just everything's

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.579
horrible. Well, that's one way of dealing with

01:00:28.579 --> 01:00:31.280
it. Another way of dealing with it is this is

01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.539
great from Marcus Aurelius, the great stoic and

01:00:34.539 --> 01:00:40.079
and you know, Roman leader is the obstacle is

01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:45.199
the way the obstacle that set before me is an

01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:49.079
opportunity for me to grow and expand. And I

01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:52.380
can choose to use that as a way to grow and expand

01:00:52.380 --> 01:00:56.139
and get better, or I can choose to let it dominate

01:00:56.139 --> 01:01:00.159
me. And so I'm learning from this experience.

01:01:00.380 --> 01:01:04.460
I'm creating and maintaining a context of my

01:01:04.460 --> 01:01:07.320
life is about growth and experience. My life

01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.199
is about getting better at everything that I

01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:11.820
do. And whatever comes at me is an opportunity

01:01:11.820 --> 01:01:14.849
for me to learn from. And would I rather it be

01:01:14.849 --> 01:01:17.030
this way? No, I'd rather not be this way, but

01:01:17.030 --> 01:01:19.170
it's perfect because I'm going to be a better

01:01:19.170 --> 01:01:24.230
person on the other side of it. So what I'm hearing

01:01:24.230 --> 01:01:27.550
is shifting the focus of the kind of the message

01:01:27.550 --> 01:01:30.989
that you're getting and what you're giving. That's

01:01:30.989 --> 01:01:34.130
what I'm hearing. It's all about how we hold

01:01:34.130 --> 01:01:37.090
something. I like to say context is decisive.

01:01:37.429 --> 01:01:41.179
So there's the... the parable of the traveler.

01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.139
He's walking down a road and he comes upon a

01:01:43.139 --> 01:01:45.260
guy who's chipping stones. He's got a pickaxe

01:01:45.260 --> 01:01:47.159
and he's swearing and he's sweating and he's

01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.039
cursing and he's just miserable. The traveler

01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:50.400
says, what are you doing? He says, yeah, I'm

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.159
chipping these stupid stones. The traveler carries

01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.699
on and he comes up to another guy. Same thing.

01:01:55.820 --> 01:01:57.079
He's doing the same thing. He's got a pickaxe,

01:01:57.139 --> 01:01:58.760
but he's whistling and he's singing and he's

01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:00.559
so excited and he's happy. And the traveler says,

01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:02.980
what are you doing? And he says, I am building

01:02:02.980 --> 01:02:07.699
a cathedral. They're doing the same exact thing

01:02:07.699 --> 01:02:10.280
and yet they have a totally different experience

01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.760
The context is decisive in their experience of

01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.320
life So what context are you gonna hold the things

01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.420
that happen for you in life? Are they happening

01:02:18.420 --> 01:02:21.320
to you or are they happening for you? When we

01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.599
look at it said this is happening for me this

01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.679
is the next stepping stone to my destination

01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:32.239
or Life is happening to me and this sucks. Yeah,

01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.320
it's all up to us and look, I'm not saying it's

01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.840
not a challenge. It's harder in the beginning

01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.360
as you're taking the first step. But the more

01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.780
steps you take in the direction that you're committed

01:02:42.780 --> 01:02:45.699
to, the easier it becomes. And the easier it

01:02:45.699 --> 01:02:48.099
becomes. And the easier it becomes. The easier

01:02:48.099 --> 01:02:51.619
because the context is decisive. Yeah. Either

01:02:51.619 --> 01:02:53.920
the positive or the negative is decisive. Absolutely.

01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.119
Absolutely. Yep. It's all on us. And then what's

01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:58.760
really cool is we get to a place in our life

01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.320
where there's nowhere else to look. I only look

01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.829
here. Yeah. If my life sucks, I'm looking right

01:03:05.829 --> 01:03:09.010
here. Why am I saying it sucks? If my life's

01:03:09.010 --> 01:03:11.090
amazing, great. I'm the one who's in control

01:03:11.090 --> 01:03:14.250
of that. That takes all the power away from everyone

01:03:14.250 --> 01:03:17.230
else in the world and gives it to me. And that

01:03:17.230 --> 01:03:19.809
means I'm in the driver's seat. I declare how

01:03:19.809 --> 01:03:22.429
my life goes any moment. No one else to look

01:03:22.429 --> 01:03:24.349
at, no one else to blame, nothing else to say,

01:03:24.349 --> 01:03:27.010
oh, but what about but none of that. It's all

01:03:27.010 --> 01:03:30.550
me. And now I have the power of how my life goes

01:03:30.550 --> 01:03:34.090
simply by the way I say. Taking that responsibility.

01:03:34.630 --> 01:03:41.349
Yeah. There's so much we can talk about. Since,

01:03:41.469 --> 01:03:43.030
I mean, really from the beginning of the conversation

01:03:43.030 --> 01:03:46.949
until now, we've been kind of tapping into what

01:03:46.949 --> 01:03:50.429
transformation can be with our money, our mindsets

01:03:50.429 --> 01:03:53.889
around money and our lives. And the question

01:03:53.889 --> 01:03:58.429
I have is, why is long term transformation more

01:03:58.429 --> 01:04:00.710
important? I guess you can say more important.

01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:07.280
then small short term wins. Great question. We

01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:11.019
can we may take an action that makes us feel

01:04:11.019 --> 01:04:13.840
good right now. Like right now I'm getting this

01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.599
instant gratification. Great example is I want

01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.360
that ice cream. I want that ice cream feels so

01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:24.179
good tastes so good. I'm so happy. And yet, it's

01:04:24.179 --> 01:04:26.539
not consistent with my long term goals of getting

01:04:26.539 --> 01:04:31.469
the body of my dreams. Yeah, I can go buy this

01:04:31.469 --> 01:04:34.690
really expensive thing and feel really good for

01:04:34.690 --> 01:04:37.269
a few minutes. And now I've got this credit card

01:04:37.269 --> 01:04:40.869
debt that's with me for another 10 years. So

01:04:40.869 --> 01:04:45.150
the short term joy or satisfaction that we may

01:04:45.150 --> 01:04:50.030
get out of it pales in comparison to the long

01:04:50.030 --> 01:04:53.389
term value. of staying true to what I'm committed

01:04:53.389 --> 01:04:55.869
to. And that's going back to what we were talking

01:04:55.869 --> 01:04:58.130
about earlier of having that future, that goal

01:04:58.130 --> 01:05:01.210
that we've set up for ourselves. If we've got

01:05:01.210 --> 01:05:04.469
that clarity and we're feeling what it's like

01:05:04.469 --> 01:05:07.750
to have that vision, that goal that we want,

01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:10.289
and the actions that I'm taking now are consistent

01:05:10.289 --> 01:05:14.250
with that goal, then we're clear about, wow,

01:05:14.489 --> 01:05:17.070
I am actually... And I'm enjoying the journey

01:05:17.070 --> 01:05:18.789
as well. So we want to make sure we're doing

01:05:18.789 --> 01:05:20.469
both. We're enjoying the journey and we're clear

01:05:20.469 --> 01:05:22.269
about where we want to get. Because look, the

01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:24.250
bottom line is we get to the destination. What

01:05:24.250 --> 01:05:26.969
do we do? We would create another goal. We're

01:05:26.969 --> 01:05:29.829
off on another journey. So enjoy the journey,

01:05:30.050 --> 01:05:32.889
but make sure that the actions that you're taking

01:05:32.889 --> 01:05:35.909
along the way are consistent with fulfilling

01:05:35.909 --> 01:05:39.150
you getting to where you want to be. Or are you

01:05:39.150 --> 01:05:41.829
taking a side road that's a dead end? That's

01:05:41.829 --> 01:05:44.780
going to end up undoing the work that you're

01:05:44.780 --> 01:05:47.559
doing. So staying present to that. And yes, it

01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.699
will be challenging at times. Are you willing

01:05:49.699 --> 01:05:52.380
to say no to your friends? Let's go to dinner

01:05:52.380 --> 01:05:54.760
tonight. Let's party and let's have a great time.

01:05:55.059 --> 01:05:56.639
You know what? I haven't put the money aside.

01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:01.679
No. That is not an easy thing to do. No, it's

01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.400
not. I'm clear about that. But if you can make

01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:07.119
that choice, I promise you, you will come out

01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:11.579
on the other side much happier. That's solid.

01:06:12.570 --> 01:06:15.510
And like you said, it's tough to do. But yeah,

01:06:15.610 --> 01:06:17.289
really, if you could the club that you're creating

01:06:17.289 --> 01:06:18.690
for yourself, the future that you're creating

01:06:18.690 --> 01:06:22.769
for yourself. I just say for me for the create

01:06:22.769 --> 01:06:24.329
the future that I'm creating for myself enough

01:06:24.329 --> 01:06:26.110
to give some things up and be more committed

01:06:26.110 --> 01:06:29.809
and connected to what that future is. Yeah. And

01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:32.849
it takes a it takes a shift in the mind. And

01:06:32.849 --> 01:06:37.510
yep, that's it takes work. It does. And it takes

01:06:37.510 --> 01:06:39.190
surrounding yourself with people who are willing

01:06:39.190 --> 01:06:42.690
to hold you to account for that. Yeah. My best

01:06:42.690 --> 01:06:45.250
friend Stewart. Oh my gosh, he and I hold each

01:06:45.250 --> 01:06:47.610
other to account all the time. There's no room

01:06:47.610 --> 01:06:50.989
for either one of us. Like, dude, what did you

01:06:50.989 --> 01:06:53.349
just say? What did you just say? No, no, no,

01:06:53.349 --> 01:06:55.789
no, that doesn't. That doesn't fly here. And

01:06:55.789 --> 01:06:59.309
it's that kind of accountability, where we're

01:06:59.309 --> 01:07:01.809
willing to tell each other the truth. And we're

01:07:01.809 --> 01:07:04.489
willing to call each other out. So that Stewart

01:07:04.489 --> 01:07:07.409
knows that there is no way he's going to get

01:07:07.409 --> 01:07:10.429
away with being anything other than who he wants.

01:07:10.670 --> 01:07:14.269
to be for me and the world and vice versa. If

01:07:14.269 --> 01:07:16.309
I step out of line, he's calling me to account.

01:07:16.690 --> 01:07:19.309
And if we have a second, I want to share this

01:07:19.309 --> 01:07:21.690
because I think is really important. Yes, a lot

01:07:21.690 --> 01:07:24.869
of people are worried about is money going to

01:07:24.869 --> 01:07:26.809
make me bad? Is money going to corrupt me? Is

01:07:26.809 --> 01:07:29.630
money going to make me all that stuff? Money

01:07:29.630 --> 01:07:32.369
is not good. Money is not evil. It's just money.

01:07:32.550 --> 01:07:36.170
What it is is a magnifier of who we already are.

01:07:37.070 --> 01:07:39.550
So if you're we all have the propensity to be

01:07:39.550 --> 01:07:42.300
good or evil. to do good things, to do bad things.

01:07:43.139 --> 01:07:47.619
If you choose to allow yourself to be evil or

01:07:47.619 --> 01:07:51.739
bad, money will amplify that. If you choose to

01:07:51.739 --> 01:07:54.739
be good, money will amplify that. You never have

01:07:54.739 --> 01:07:56.519
to worry about the money. Let the money flow.

01:07:57.300 --> 01:07:59.820
Be cautious about who you allow yourself to be.

01:08:00.059 --> 01:08:02.360
We can see this in examples all over the world

01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:04.260
with people who have lots and lots of wealth

01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:07.400
and they're horrible. All they want is more wealth.

01:08:07.420 --> 01:08:09.159
They don't care about anybody else but themselves.

01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.519
And they surround themselves with people that

01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:13.679
will support that. Oh, yeah, you were right to

01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:14.920
tell them they were jerks. They didn't treat

01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:16.859
you. They don't know who you are like that. And

01:08:16.859 --> 01:08:18.159
then you've got other people on the other side

01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.180
of the spectrum and they're good. They want to

01:08:20.180 --> 01:08:22.420
make a difference in the world. The Taylor Swift's

01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:24.779
of the world that they surround themselves with

01:08:24.779 --> 01:08:27.779
good people. And they do good things with the

01:08:27.779 --> 01:08:29.239
money that they make. And they continue to make

01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.100
lots and lots of money. So it's not about money

01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:34.479
making is bad or evil. It's about money amplifying

01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:37.350
who we already are. Yeah, you must be honest,

01:08:37.449 --> 01:08:40.869
we must be on the same little frequency because

01:08:40.869 --> 01:08:43.069
I was gonna ask that question. I was like, it's

01:08:43.069 --> 01:08:45.970
okay. And you brought it out. So that's that's

01:08:45.970 --> 01:08:49.449
really great. And I do appreciate you. And I

01:08:49.449 --> 01:08:51.569
mean, everything that you shared was spot on.

01:08:51.789 --> 01:08:55.770
And I think that the listeners, watchers and

01:08:55.770 --> 01:08:58.050
listeners, they'll definitely get something from

01:08:58.050 --> 01:09:00.390
this and take it with them and apply it to their

01:09:00.390 --> 01:09:04.470
lives. However, There is a way for our people

01:09:04.470 --> 01:09:07.430
to get in touch with you and how was that? Yeah,

01:09:07.430 --> 01:09:09.829
they can go to my website. I have two, they both

01:09:09.829 --> 01:09:13.329
go to the same place, pericles relis .com or

01:09:13.329 --> 01:09:17.350
resetyourfinancialthermostat .com. And right

01:09:17.350 --> 01:09:19.449
there on the main page is my free masterclass.

01:09:20.149 --> 01:09:22.750
The four keys to resetting your financial thermostat.

01:09:23.210 --> 01:09:25.550
If this is a conversation that's important to

01:09:25.550 --> 01:09:28.149
you, you want to take it to the next level, it's

01:09:28.149 --> 01:09:32.020
free. 27 minutes of your life and could actually

01:09:32.020 --> 01:09:34.699
alter the trajectory of your life. So if it's

01:09:34.699 --> 01:09:36.779
something that's of interest, check it out. And

01:09:36.779 --> 01:09:39.800
certainly make sure you like this podcast because

01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:42.159
this is where it's all happening. And you want

01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.060
to make sure that you're supporting it and getting

01:09:45.060 --> 01:09:47.579
the value for yourself and for others as well.

01:09:47.979 --> 01:09:49.680
Very pleased. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate

01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.439
you being here. I went I've been to your website.

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:54.720
And I started the video and then stuff happened.

01:09:54.939 --> 01:09:57.340
So make sure when you watch the video set 30

01:09:57.340 --> 01:09:59.810
minutes to the side. just to watch the video

01:09:59.810 --> 01:10:01.930
because I'm going to go back to watch it out.

01:10:03.449 --> 01:10:05.770
For your for your last words on the podcast,

01:10:05.930 --> 01:10:11.050
what is one lesson or whatever you have on your

01:10:11.050 --> 01:10:14.170
heart to share as your last words on the podcast

01:10:14.170 --> 01:10:22.810
today? Find what you love and do it. There's

01:10:22.810 --> 01:10:25.130
no one right answer for everyone. There's only

01:10:25.130 --> 01:10:28.300
the right answer for you and right now. Find

01:10:28.300 --> 01:10:31.699
whatever that is that nurtures you that nourishes

01:10:31.699 --> 01:10:34.779
you body mind and spirit and pull it towards

01:10:34.779 --> 01:10:38.720
you and Do it with zeal and relish and enjoy

01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.560
it and love it because life is all about feeling

01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:44.640
good Make make sure it's not at the expense of

01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.399
other people but life is all about love joy and

01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.800
happiness So whatever that is you love pull it

01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:53.689
towards you Again, thank you, Pericles. I can

01:10:53.689 --> 01:10:56.270
tell that you're full of light and love and great

01:10:56.270 --> 01:10:58.250
things to share. So thank you for being here

01:10:58.250 --> 01:11:01.550
on the podcast. We appreciate you. And all you

01:11:01.550 --> 01:11:04.289
listeners and watchers, make sure you go to our

01:11:04.289 --> 01:11:07.789
Facebook group, The Thrive Old Journey, get more

01:11:07.789 --> 01:11:10.590
clips from there. And as we always say about

01:11:10.590 --> 01:11:14.189
this time, let's make thriving our new normal.

01:11:14.689 --> 01:11:17.109
Pericles, thanks again. Michael, thank you for

01:11:17.109 --> 01:11:20.619
having me on. Absolutely. Before you go, I just

01:11:20.619 --> 01:11:22.539
want to say thank you. Thank you for being a

01:11:22.539 --> 01:11:25.020
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Let's not just go through the motions. Let's

01:12:22.310 --> 01:12:25.609
really walk this path on purpose. I appreciate

01:12:25.609 --> 01:12:28.390
you. And like we always say, let's make thriving

01:12:28.390 --> 01:12:30.729
our new normal. And I'll talk to you soon.