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Different ways, because think about it, being

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an entrepreneur, right? What do you need most

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times and not? Employees. What is one thing that

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we fail at? Because every job I've had has failed

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at building the employee. they'll tell them all

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day long what buttons to push you know you know

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what you know levers to pull and stuff like that

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but they don't build them as a person if you

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actually give them the tools and techniques to

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develop themselves you make a stronger employee

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if you make a stronger employee there if they

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understand their whys and what's and why they

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need to move through life and how they can use

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this opportunity you're giving them to build

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their life you got a better employee. You don't

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just have somebody coming in pushing buttons

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and it's going to cost you money to hire or refire.

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You're developing. Let's think about another

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thing. How many generations of people have gone

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through, have we sent our children through adolescence

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just struggling with emotion? When for a hundred

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years now we've had a system where we can teach

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all those kids how to use those emotions beforehand

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so they don't have to go through that crazy situation

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of adolescence where I don't know how to deal

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with my emotions. We have this information and

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it affects all of us. The simple fact is we all

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have a mind and emotions we just don't know how

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to use it what i'm saying is i think one of the

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one of the easiest and best indicators is one

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we won't look at because the honest thing like

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i've known this and i've seen it in other people

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when you're bs 'ing yourself you know it it doesn't

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matter what it is you know you're bs 'ing yourself

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you may have a wall up because it's something

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there's there's a cognitive dissonance you're

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going on that you need but at the end of the

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day if You sit alone with yourself. You will

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be simple and truthful. You'll see that and that's

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the indicator It's like when you're doing something

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we have to practice that first because it's that's

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it's like going to the gym You got to think about

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do this work like going to the gym building your

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emotions building your mind You have to do these

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things you have to exercise them So if you go

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to this place where you're alone with yourself

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exercise that find a place where you're simple

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and truthful Whenever you're in that situation

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go right back there and the flag will come up

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or go down You'll sense it right then. And if

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you smell that stink, you know, this isn't it.

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I'm not feeling it. Hey there. Look, my hope

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forward to hearing your voice and can't wait

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to see you in the group. But for right now, let's

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get into it. Today we're talking with Jim Rojas

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Taylor Marine Corps veteran actor playwrights

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screenwriter and author on a mission to change

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the way we think From the stage to the page Jim

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has spent over 20 years mastering the art of

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transformation And now he's bringing that knowledge

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to the world through his book all your best selves

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he believes emotional and mental literacy are

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the are missing keys to personal and professional

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success. So let's get ready to learn how to unlock

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the full power of our mind and emotions. And

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Jim, how you doing, man? I'm doing good, man.

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How are you today? I'm good. You know, I'm excited

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to talk to you and have a good conversation with

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you. But let's let's start here. So you're new

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to the podcast world, right? Like we just talked

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about. How's that ride been for you so far? Um,

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it's It's like most things, man. When I jump

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in, I just jump in and fire away. I don't know.

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I just, I have that ability, I guess. Cause like

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I said, my first podcast was February 6th and

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this is my 21st one. So it's like, yeah, I've

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been crushing through it for the last month.

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But like I said, I think it's the idea of people

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who are resonating with what I'm talking about.

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It's not me. It's I'm like, I'm a messenger patient.

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This idea is an untapped goldmine of potential.

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Yeah, well, you know, we were pretty new ourselves.

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We started last year. I don't think it was like

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maybe November, October, something like that.

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So yeah, the podcast world is pretty interesting,

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especially when you have a message to share.

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And when people are really attracted to that,

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you know, it says, Okay, well, I'm glad you listened

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to my message, you know, and this is a great

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way to get that out. And so Just to kind of start

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with your background, you said you were the military

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background and you're an actor, you're an entrepreneur.

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Did the military influence your mindset and entrepreneurship

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in the acting world? I mean, everything had bits

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and pieces. I take parts from everywhere. The

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Marine Corps, some of the greatest gifts it gave

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me were grit and tenacity. You know sticking

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power when when everything sucks, that's fine

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suck with it You know, it's okay to complain

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as long as you're still working, you know, it's

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that So it's like even like regular jobs I've

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had like once I got out because I was only Marine

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Corps six years five active one reserve But the

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training stuff it's like once I got the Marine

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Corps. Everything was easy Like my co -workers

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were complaining jobs. I had them like alright,

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bro. This is cake man But it gave me that. This

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idea, I really think, well, honestly, I traced

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it back to when I was four years old. It goes

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back to my youth when I was a kid. My parents

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took me to midnight mass, and the concept of

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eternity just hit me. I was a little one, but

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I realized that if there's no end, there can

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be no middle. If there's no middle, it's the

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perpetual beginning. So 10 million eons from

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now, even though I didn't understand the time,

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I knew I would continue to exist. And what really

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freaked me out was the concept of what do I do

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with forever once I've done everything multiple

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times over? So it's like boredom freaked me out.

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So I instinctively regressed into my head and

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I started creating, I treated my mind like a

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supercomputer and I started creating programs.

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Two of my oldest were the suits and bubbles.

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My suits were like different versions of myself.

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My bubbles were like the holodeck in the Star

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Trek universe. They could be any time, any place,

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anywhere. So what I did was I created a space

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for me to go inside my head. And anytime I walked

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into a situation, I can test it out before I

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actually physically walked through it. I went

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through it in a thought experiment in my head.

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And then I got into acting after the Marine Corps.

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On accident like once I got the Marine Corps

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started working at a restaurant called Lone Star

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Steakhouse and I remember I was rolling silverware

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and then there was this other female server there

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and she was talking about her voice lessons going

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on how difficult again I was I was an honorary

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prick and I started ball breaking and you know

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how hard a voice lessons and then I just remember

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she snapped up she's like I bet you couldn't

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do a three -week soldier boy and I was just like

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taking it back by her just her fortitude so I'm

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like all right yeah I'll take it so I went and

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found a voice coach just to and I was gonna take

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six weeks just to show her up. It's like I don't

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know whatever happened the dude handled me so

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well that it just stuck and he put me into a

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chorus then he put me into a play and then I

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just started auditioning and I just started booking

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gigs like for the first two years or so probably

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two to four years I was booking like 80 90 percent

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which is not yeah that's not that's uncommon

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crazy especially in the beginning of your career

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man that's that's It's really good that that

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happened for you. It's not that it just happened

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to me. What I realized was these different suits,

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they're just different characters. My bubbles,

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those are just versions of Stanislavski's magic

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gift. I was building all the tools and techniques

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to be an actor my whole life. I just never realized

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it. And in 2008, when I was doing this film Hunger,

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that's when it clicked. Because if you've done

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camera work, you'll appreciate this. I was doing

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a film with... A scene with Lyndon Ashby in a

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film called Hunger, and he was on camera. I was

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off camera. We were shooting his scenes. And

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then I wasn't in character because, I mean, I

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was a new actor, but I was present in the moment.

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I wasn't in character, but I was there. And then

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when they yelled cut, he reached over and shook

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my hand like I pulled his kid out of a fire.

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And I didn't get it, but I realized later it's

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because I was still giving to him as an actor.

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So he was able to do his best work, even though

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I wasn't the character Alex. And again, it's

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like when I realized that, I'm like, holy crap,

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man, these tools and techniques are the same

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thing that I learned. It's all teachable. So

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that's when it hit me that this is a new form

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of human literacy. And it's like, you appreciate

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where it came from, you know? Metal workers work

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with metal. Glass workers work with glass. Artists

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work with a canvas and paint. What do actors

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work with? Granted, the first 2 ,100 years of

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the first 2 ,500 years of Western acting has

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been pretend. It's what people think acting is.

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But Stanislavski changed the game. He made it

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philosophical. So now we've gotten to the point

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where these guys, what they did was they created

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the chisels, the hammers, all the tools we need

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to shape the marble that is the human mind and

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emotions. And I'm saying is we just overlooked

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it because who looks to the theater kids for

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world changing knowledge, but it's there and

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it's real. Well, there's a connection like automatically

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as you were saying all that. There's a connection

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automatically for people who are in the acting

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world and those people who are just looking at

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the actors on TV like automatically just to give

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a little bit history of myself. I started acting

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in 2000. were really active in 2002 in Atlanta,

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Georgia, moved to Los Angeles. And I think I

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started getting paid for my expertise at the

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time in 2006, then made on network TV in 2008.

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So I understand the world. And that's why I wanted

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to have you on because I understand the world

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of what you're talking about. And so just going

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back to the connection of people who are not

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in the acting world to the people who are when

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someone's watching a television show, and they

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connect with that person, they can tell if that

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actors really being the actor, or the character,

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or they're not because you I mean, you there's

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a world of difference. And when you're pretending

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that just doesn't work in real life. And on camera.

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Even though it is pretending so somewhat, you're

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actually being the character that you've taken

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on. And so it really creates a real world for

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someone. And when you connected that with entrepreneurship.

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How did that work? Where were you mentally when

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that happened? Well, it's a lot of different

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ways because think about it, being an entrepreneur,

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right? What do you need most times and not? Employees.

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What is one thing that we fail at? Because every

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job I've had has failed at building the employee.

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They'll tell them all day long, what buttons

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to push, you know, what levers to pull and stuff

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like that, but they don't build them as a person.

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If you actually give them the tools and techniques

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to develop themselves, you make a stronger employee.

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If you make a stronger employee, if they understand

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their whys and what's and why they need to move

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through life and how they can use this opportunity

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you're giving them to build their life, you got

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a better employee. You don't just have somebody

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coming in pushing buttons and it's gonna cost

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you money to hire or refire. You're developing

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them. So like I said, these things go far beyond

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just ourselves. It can go into the business world.

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And two, if you're sharpening them, it's like

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Stephen R. Covey, Seven Habits. You're sharpening

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your saw. They're a part of your saw as an entrepreneur.

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They're a part of your tools. I mean, they're

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human resources, but they're still resources.

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So if you're giving to them, they're going to

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give back that good work because my employer's

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looking out for me and trying to grow me as an

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individual. And I'm going to reciprocate that

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by, you know, taking care of his house. So that's

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one major way that I feel that will just be exponentially

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important to entrepreneurs because it's something

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that's crazy overlooked. No job does that. How

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does an entrepreneur go about doing that? It's

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simple. All you got to do is because once you

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practice these exercises, it's like it's as simple

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as like if you're a yogi, somebody who loves

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yoga, what do you do? You just share it with

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your people. It's the same principle. It's just

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the tools and techniques are different. They

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make it tangible. It's kind of like when you

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go into spiritual practice, everything's intangible.

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It's oohs and ahhs. This isn't that. This is

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A, B, C, and D. This is like the schematics of

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how to do the things you need to do to grow and

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develop your mind and emotions, how to read behavior,

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how to break down a moment. And these are all

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things that we overlook because we don't understand

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the significance of it. So I'm saying is once

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we get these things and we start just handing

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them and just give it to them and start showing

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that once you lead by example and they see it

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in you, it's like anything else. Then they want

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to replicate it. You give them the tools, they'll

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do the work they need, but it is ultimately something

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they have to do themselves because nobody can

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do your own inner work but you. But giving them

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a system will change the game. Yeah. Let me read

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something to you that you wrote. So just kind

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of open up. with what you're talking about here.

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You said, I am making the argument that we should

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be using modern day acting tools and techniques

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to teach all people how to use their minds and

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emotions more effectively. And you can support

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this position by presenting scientific work done

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across the United States of America in small

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pockets that has produced data, which concurs

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with what we're talking about now. What is that

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scientific data that you can think you present

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to people? Absolutely. Dr. Joseph Levy Moreno,

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he is considered the father of psychodrama. What

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this dude essentially did back in the 50s was

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straight take acting techniques, put them in

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group therapy, and start helping people because

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he allowed because the thing is, when you have

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one on one talk therapy, it's good, I'm not knocking

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it. And he said, that's great, too. But what

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he says once you put people in a group and have

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them putting through scenes, it opened up different

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Parts of them, you know it activate different

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things it unlock different emotions or memories

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And it helped them progress in that way because

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it's a different kind of therapy Trauma drama

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deals with basically teens who have dealt with

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trauma and I refer to his refers engineer healing

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These kids have dealt with trauma. So what it

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does is they'll take these kids put them through

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acting scenes in different traumas that they

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are not experienced to so they can learn how

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to build the tools and techniques to help them

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through trauma then they can later take those

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tools and techniques they learn and tackle their

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own trauma when they've grown themselves more.

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I'm trying to think what else there's a I don't

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know if it's still there, but UC Irvine had a

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college course that brought together the memory

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center and the acting field and the psychology

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department. And basically what they were trying

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to do is teach actors, not just, you know, the

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basic techniques, but how to create real emotion,

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not real emotions, real memories. That's where

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they're working with the memory center. And one

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of the doctors said it was kind of like teaching

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somebody the meaning of a song before you taught

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them the song. So it's like another way of going

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at it. And like I said, there's little pockets.

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Elmhurst College, they have a program. I can't

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remember the program, but I know that was one

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that's there. Sense Theater, it works with kids

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with autism. I think it's in Memphis. Trauma

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Drama, I believe, is in Massachusetts. But Sense

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Theater, basically what it does, it kind of pulls

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back the curtain for kids with autism because

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they have trouble reading social cues. So it's

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kind of like a stage play versus improv. If you're

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in a stage play or a movie, you have a script

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to work off. That's where you're given. That's

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what you break down. If you're an improv, you

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don't have that. You have to understand the structure

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of a play and how it works to do long form. So

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what they're doing is teaching these kids with

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autism, how the structure society works. So they

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don't have to read the cues. They know how it

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works. So it's giving them an edge on life. Like

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I said, it's just a few of the examples that

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are out there. Yeah. You know, it took me back

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to the beginning of my acting career. You know,

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I didn't know the therapy that it was giving

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me, and I didn't know that I needed the therapy,

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right? But I was not being whatever it was that

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I was, the character that I was taking on. I

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was acting. I was not fully immersed in the -

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Presenting. I was presenting, you could say that.

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There was a switch, you know, somewhere in that

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space between beginning and actually booking

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jobs, where there was something internal that

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happened. And I was like, oh, this is what acting

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is all about. You know what I mean? I could actually

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feel the difference of what I'm just presenting

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or actually being. Now in that space, I was like,

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Things that I haven't dealt with or wasn't dealing

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with in that character. I was able to bring that

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stuff up and deal with it Do you think that's

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what? Do you think that people should just go

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and learn how to be in be that in acting classes

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so they can deal with those kind of things in

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their life well Short answer yes, but I think

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it's a lot deeper than that honestly I think

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we need to remove acting from it because acting

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distracts people a lot The word itself? Yeah,

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because a lot of people was like, why do I need

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acting techniques? When someone says that to

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me, it's like saying, okay, I have a screwdriver,

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right? And I'm unscrewing a Toy Tonka truck.

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That's like saying that I can't take that screwdriver

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and go unscrew a panel in my Toyota truck. You

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know what I mean? It's just a tool. So if we

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look at it just tools, remove the acting and

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say, these are what these things do, they shape

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the mind, we realize there's a lot more. If I

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can, you know the Stanislavski system, right?

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Yes. Let me break it down for you. for your audience,

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but I want to break down what each thing does.

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Now, we know what we do as actors. This breaks

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down a moment for us. What I'm saying is you

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can use the Stanislavsky system the same way

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a submarine uses sonar, because a submarine can't

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see anything, right? So what it's got to do,

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it sends out a ping, and that ping tells it where

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the submarines are, where the surface is, where

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ships are, where whales are, all that kind of

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stuff. I'm saying is when you ever walk into

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a situation, and you got these questions down

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pat for me when I walk into a room it's just

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like ping all these questions fire off it brings

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back information so I can answer the I can answer

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choices better in the moment now here's the seven

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questions number one who am I this is the moment

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in relation to you number two where am I this

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is the moment in relation to the environment

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you're in number three when is it this is the

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moment in relation to time kind of like Am I

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about to talk to my boss before he's had something

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to eat? Am I about to get on the road before

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rush hour? You have to think about things like

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that. Number four, what do I want? This is the

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moment in relation to purpose. Number five, why

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do I want it? This is the moment in relation

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to desire because if you don't know your what

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and why, someone can jump in there, they can

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hijack your what and make you do their why. Number

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seven, How do I get it? This is the moment in

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relation to action. And this is where people

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fail a lot. You have to plan and make that action

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happen. And number seven, what's in my way? The

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moment in relation to obstacles. Like these are

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life questions that people fail to ask themselves.

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And I'm saying if you create this as a lifestyle

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and you just ask these, it seems difficult at

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first. Like, oh, I gotta ask myself these questions.

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But think about this, something that we've all

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experienced, the most all of us have experienced

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as difficult, driving. The first time we got

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behind the wheel of the car as a teenager, difficult,

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we were screwing around. But now it's like, you

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ever had that experience where you drove somewhere,

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you don't know how you got there? Oh, yeah. It's

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like automatic, right? Exactly. Because that's

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a human phenomenon. That's how the mind works.

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It takes information that you've done routinely,

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creates a pattern, chunks it together and makes

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it easier. It takes less energy to do it. So

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if you do this, if you give this to kids when

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they're little, By the time they get old enough,

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it's just going to be the way they think. And

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when they walk in room, ping, all this information

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comes back. And in doing so, it will help you

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think faster because you're just using that same

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human phenomenon with the car that allows you

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to use a car without thinking at it. But instead

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of turning it to a task, you're turning it to

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the way you think. And the more you do it, your

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mind is just going to speed up. I know that because

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How do you integrate that into This process right

00:23:07.569 --> 00:23:09.829
like how do you integrate that into someone's

00:23:09.829 --> 00:23:12.690
life? Like it's for someone who looks at it and

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say, you know It might be good for you, but maybe

00:23:15.869 --> 00:23:19.970
not may not work for me. How does How many choices

00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:24.049
do you think you have in a day? Oh Okay, I couldn't

00:23:24.049 --> 00:23:28.869
give you a number it's it's And this these most

00:23:28.869 --> 00:23:31.670
people have no idea how many choices they have

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because they don't look for those choices These

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help people because they let you see between

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the lines. They let you see the choices that

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you would miss otherwise. You know, let's say

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you're going into a job interview, right? Most

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people go into that job interview for the first

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time when they go to that job interview. I've

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rehearsed it a hundred times in my head. You

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know, I thought about it beforehand. Let's think

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about another thing. How many generations of

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people have gone through, have we sent our children

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through adolescence, get struggling with emotion?

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When for a hundred years now, we've had a system

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where we can teach all those kids how to use

00:24:03.309 --> 00:24:05.789
those emotions beforehand so they don't have

00:24:05.789 --> 00:24:07.630
to go through that crazy situation of adolescence

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where I don't know how to deal with my emotions.

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We have this information and it affects all of

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us. The simple fact is we all have a mind and

00:24:14.769 --> 00:24:17.509
emotions. We just don't know how to use it. What

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I'm saying is, well, first of all, science says

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the human brain is the most powerful supercomputer

00:24:21.490 --> 00:24:24.819
known to mankind, right? I'm arguing that we

00:24:24.819 --> 00:24:26.579
can use these tools and techniques like Windows

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11 or Linux Red Hat. This is the operating system

00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.319
that allows the average layman person to interface

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their mind and emotions in a way they had no

00:24:34.259 --> 00:24:38.140
idea possible. How can entrepreneurs optimize

00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:42.359
that? Well, you optimize in a lot of ways. If

00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:43.920
you take these tools and techniques to heart,

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like I said, you're going to think faster. You

00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:48.799
can read people's behavior. Are you negotiating?

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You do a lot of negotiating because you're an

00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:52.930
entrepreneur, right? Business deals. People are

00:24:52.930 --> 00:24:55.450
deceptive. If you study Meisner, now you know

00:24:55.450 --> 00:24:57.450
how to read behavior so I can see if somebody's

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lying to me before they can. Also, if I explore

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all these different versions of myself, I can

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recognize people as they're coming and you need

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to do that because you have to be aware of people

00:25:06.490 --> 00:25:08.210
as they're going because entrepreneurship is

00:25:08.210 --> 00:25:10.569
about seeing what other people don't see. That's

00:25:10.569 --> 00:25:11.950
the underlying thing they don't tell you about.

00:25:12.009 --> 00:25:14.329
That's what makes an entrepreneur successful.

00:25:14.869 --> 00:25:17.130
Being able to see what the average person can't

00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:19.210
see right off the bat and that's what these tools

00:25:19.210 --> 00:25:22.200
do. They pull back the curtain for life and let

00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.960
you see all the little details that you wouldn't

00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.039
see otherwise because we're not programmed to

00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:28.299
see that and we're all programmed. Since birth,

00:25:28.619 --> 00:25:30.420
at least here in the United States, we've all

00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:32.299
gone through relatively the same educational

00:25:32.299 --> 00:25:35.200
system that's programmed us to be the same person.

00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.480
And we know that along with this, corporations

00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.720
spend billions and billions of dollars to understand

00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.880
and influence our behavior, how we think, how

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.579
we act. They pour that money into effect our

00:25:47.579 --> 00:25:49.990
behavior. If you take these tools and techniques,

00:25:50.289 --> 00:25:53.450
you negate that because you are no longer a puppet

00:25:53.450 --> 00:25:55.849
for them to control. You have taken ownership

00:25:55.849 --> 00:25:58.670
and advocacy of yourself and now you're creating

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:00.970
that authenticity that they can't replicate or

00:26:00.970 --> 00:26:03.690
touch. This is about creating not just you, but

00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:07.250
not your best self, but multiple versions of

00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:16.190
yourself. What I'm hearing is there's such a

00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:19.799
high level of awareness. That comes when you're

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.599
actually actually practicing these techniques

00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:29.200
What do you say about that That's what that's

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.559
exactly what it is it's because I mean that's

00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.980
that's really what theater is It's life heightened

00:26:34.980 --> 00:26:38.319
you're creating that drama. So in its essence

00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.839
when these guys created these tools and techniques

00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.319
That's what they're creating it for to heighten

00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.700
senses to heighten what you're doing So naturally

00:26:46.700 --> 00:26:48.400
when you take these tools and techniques and

00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.160
apply them to your life It's going to heighten

00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.019
everything and that's what it does it it makes

00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:55.019
you more passionate It makes you more intense

00:26:55.019 --> 00:26:56.779
because now you're in control of those things

00:26:56.779 --> 00:26:59.000
because these are your emotions You can feel

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:00.660
them because think about how society treats us.

00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:03.420
We genderize emotions. These emotions are masculine

00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:05.759
These emotions are feminine. That's hogwash all

00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.940
emotions are human We should be able to feel

00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.619
any emotion we want at any point in time and

00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:12.279
little things We don't even realize we don't

00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.630
come with a full box of crayons We grow and develop

00:27:15.630 --> 00:27:19.309
our emotions as we go. And that's part of the

00:27:19.309 --> 00:27:21.789
artist's job, is to give the non -artists new

00:27:21.789 --> 00:27:23.710
emotions that they didn't know they have. That's

00:27:23.710 --> 00:27:25.650
why when people leave the theater, they'll feel

00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:27.089
things they don't know how they felt, because

00:27:27.089 --> 00:27:28.809
it's the first time they felt those emotions.

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.460
So it's like instead of waiting for an artist

00:27:31.460 --> 00:27:33.880
to give you those emotions now you're into the

00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.680
seat and you can give yourself all the emotions

00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.759
you want because you can create a space in your

00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.140
head where you can exist as different versions

00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:43.019
of you and You can experience and feel the world

00:27:43.019 --> 00:27:45.400
in different ways This is a way to gain ultimate

00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.160
empathy and we do it already. It's we know it

00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.279
is code -switching. You familiar with the term?

00:27:50.779 --> 00:27:54.420
Cool. I've heard it It's it's been popularized

00:27:54.420 --> 00:27:57.369
with like Let's say like there's a kid from an

00:27:57.369 --> 00:27:59.329
urban environment going to an affluent neighborhood

00:27:59.329 --> 00:28:01.529
So they'll change the way they speak and act

00:28:01.529 --> 00:28:04.589
to fit into that job Well, I mean we do it all

00:28:04.589 --> 00:28:06.390
of us do it in a sense because the way I speak

00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:07.970
to my grandmother's gonna be different than when

00:28:07.970 --> 00:28:09.710
I speak to my buddies at the bar while I'm drinking,

00:28:09.829 --> 00:28:13.210
you know What I'm saying is we take these tools

00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:15.589
and techniques create all these different versions

00:28:15.589 --> 00:28:18.710
of ourselves Essentially hyper code switching

00:28:18.710 --> 00:28:20.710
and we can step in and out of them because it's

00:28:20.710 --> 00:28:22.589
the philosophy of instead of because there's

00:28:22.589 --> 00:28:25.779
no best self that I can create of me that's gonna

00:28:25.779 --> 00:28:28.819
fit in every single circumstance. Like, I wouldn't

00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:30.700
wear a tuxedo to the beach more times than not

00:28:30.700 --> 00:28:32.220
because it doesn't fit. Like, if I was going

00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:34.240
to a wedding, sure, but other than that, I wouldn't.

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.119
I would change what I wear. What I'm saying is,

00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.319
if you create different versions of you using

00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.539
these tools and techniques, now you have a whole

00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:44.960
wardrobe of selves to jump into, and when you

00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.430
do, let's say you have a problem. You can just

00:28:47.430 --> 00:28:49.049
click through these different versions of you

00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:51.130
and the problem will look different. Therefore,

00:28:51.349 --> 00:28:52.829
different answers will pop up because you have

00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:54.609
a different mental and emotional makeup to look

00:28:54.609 --> 00:29:00.509
at that problem. You don't think that just. If

00:29:00.509 --> 00:29:02.329
someone says this, not saying I'm saying this,

00:29:02.410 --> 00:29:06.490
but just as a, just as a pushback, right? Um,

00:29:06.970 --> 00:29:10.549
you have different versions of yourself, but

00:29:10.549 --> 00:29:17.980
are you missing the. the main you, like you as

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:20.660
your best self? No. Going into these different

00:29:20.660 --> 00:29:24.980
situations? No, because they're all me. These

00:29:24.980 --> 00:29:27.440
are different parts of me that I've grown and

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.819
built. You know, it's like I said, I wouldn't

00:29:29.819 --> 00:29:33.000
just keep putting on clothes and clothes as I

00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.940
get them new ones. It wouldn't make sense. Just

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:38.240
keep stacking on different things and this one

00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.980
perfect all best self for you. It doesn't make

00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:45.069
sense. You need flexibility. You need to be able

00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:47.009
to move around, because if you do, how are you

00:29:47.009 --> 00:29:50.349
going to see? Again, being an entrepreneur is

00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:53.509
about seeing. If you allow yourself the flexibility

00:29:53.509 --> 00:29:55.569
to see through different mindsets, through different

00:29:55.569 --> 00:29:59.450
eyes, that's a gift, as opposed to just focusing

00:29:59.450 --> 00:30:00.970
on this is my best self, this is the way I'm

00:30:00.970 --> 00:30:02.289
always going to think, this is the way I'm always

00:30:02.289 --> 00:30:06.569
going to look. That's static. That's not a good

00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:10.410
way to be in any sense. I don't know where in

00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:13.009
entrepreneurship That's when you're trying to

00:30:13.009 --> 00:30:14.930
build and grow. That's, I mean, granted for the

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:16.529
business wise, but I'm talking about thinking,

00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:18.809
you know, in that mindset, you don't want to

00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:20.910
be a rock. You want your business to be a rock.

00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.190
But as the entrepreneur, as the leader, as the

00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:26.329
guiding vision, you want to be flexible in thought.

00:30:27.190 --> 00:30:29.470
So instead of packing everything into one version,

00:30:29.670 --> 00:30:35.650
I'm saying let's switch gears. Yeah. Yeah. So

00:30:35.650 --> 00:30:37.329
that's what I'm saying is like, we have the tools

00:30:37.329 --> 00:30:39.990
and techniques to use it. It's just been overlooked.

00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:45.700
Yeah, I get that. I was looking at like, just

00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:49.700
in a day, right? Like, I'm focusing on business,

00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:54.380
and I do multiple things in my businesses. But

00:30:54.380 --> 00:30:58.299
then I have my nephews that love to be over here

00:30:58.299 --> 00:31:02.279
at my house, right? And the way I am with them

00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.160
to make sure that they're getting, you know,

00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:08.859
the full me at that time is different than me

00:31:08.859 --> 00:31:11.000
talking to, you know, one of my contractors,

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:13.880
you know what I mean? If there's a difference

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:20.460
in who I'm being for them, then I am for my family.

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.700
But in that I'm still being, you know, a great

00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:27.200
version of myself, but it is different. There's

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.500
difference there. And you talked about the mindset.

00:31:32.339 --> 00:31:35.920
And what's the biggest mindset shift people need

00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:40.019
to make or have? to tap into their full potential.

00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:45.339
That there's mentally and emotionally, by and

00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:49.240
large, there's nothing separating us. I don't

00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.140
care. The richest cat on the planet. Honestly,

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.299
most rich people are not that intelligent. And

00:31:54.299 --> 00:31:56.980
there are brilliant people who are underneath

00:31:56.980 --> 00:31:59.680
the poverty level. I agree with you. And I laugh

00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.980
because I just had a conversation with the producer

00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:07.140
today in our meeting. That's what I'm saying.

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.599
It's like that's the biggest hurdle is that Well

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.460
that that one and two things that right there

00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:17.539
that mindset and also the I Get I get never quitting

00:32:17.539 --> 00:32:19.279
if you stick to something you have convictions

00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.519
who don't quit, but if you're searching Then

00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.680
you should be able to quit because this is something.

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:27.000
I don't think people do enough. It's like wow

00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.880
They'll jump into something and men a lot because

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.460
like I did it I'm committed and I'm stuck to

00:32:31.460 --> 00:32:34.400
it and they'll do something they hate For decades

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.140
I've known dudes that'll do that just because

00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:38.500
they started it I gotta see it through now if

00:32:38.500 --> 00:32:40.859
I'm searching in life if I want to find purpose

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:44.240
I want to wine taste life I want to jump through

00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.319
a bunch of different things take a sip if I like

00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.440
it spit it out if I don't I'll buy if I like

00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.599
it I'll buy a bottle You know if you jump into

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.160
something and just stick with it, then that's

00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.119
yours now It's like, well, what are all the stuff

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.000
you're missing? If you get out there and try

00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:58.799
a bunch of because the internet, that's the magic

00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.319
of you can find anything nowadays. Yeah. Get

00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.480
out there. Look for something that you wouldn't

00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.339
think you would touch. Because like I said, I

00:33:05.339 --> 00:33:06.880
got out of the Marine Corps and got into voice

00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.619
lessons. And it wasn't because I had a plan or

00:33:09.619 --> 00:33:13.359
I had goals. It's because I'm impulsive. I just

00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.180
jump into the next thing and it leads me. I mean,

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:17.619
there's so many things that I've done that people

00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.079
say, how'd you do it? It's like, like one example.

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.779
When I was acting, I went to New York, I started

00:33:23.779 --> 00:33:27.539
acting 2003, went to New York in 2005. In 2007,

00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:30.460
April 2007, I wrote the first lines to my second

00:33:30.460 --> 00:33:32.799
play. Five months later, I had produced it on

00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.079
a New York stage. And everyone was like, how

00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.099
the hell did you do it that fast with the cast?

00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:39.279
And it wasn't a black, it was a black box studio,

00:33:39.299 --> 00:33:41.039
but I didn't know what black box meant. So I

00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.759
built the whole stage. And it was just, and when

00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.359
they asked me, it's like, well, I wasn't smart

00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.500
enough. I wasn't supposed to be able to do it,

00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:49.099
you know, because I wasn't trained. It was, I

00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:52.220
was a jarhead. I just knew to take, I had the

00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:53.619
next step in front of me and that's what I was

00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.920
going to take. And every next step I did led

00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:57.500
me down that way. But again, it was impulse.

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.900
It wasn't gold. We just block so much in our

00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:04.140
minds because we believe that the system's told

00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:05.700
us, it's like there's people who will make it

00:34:05.700 --> 00:34:07.299
and you're probably not one of them, so stay

00:34:07.299 --> 00:34:10.420
on the bottom. No, nothing separates us. All

00:34:10.420 --> 00:34:12.099
you got to do is break through that mindset.

00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.380
Use these tools and techniques to grow and develop

00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:16.980
yourself and you can be whoever you want. Granted,

00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.800
success is a little different because it's the

00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.940
world. But this is a different kind of success.

00:34:21.019 --> 00:34:22.679
This is a success that you can sleep at night

00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.920
with. That's pretty powerful, man. When you were

00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.860
saying all of that, I was like, this is something

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:35.960
that's intrinsic. It's a development for your

00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.159
greatness, for your purpose, or even if your

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.980
purpose changes, you use the word impulsive.

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.380
But I would say that there's a lot of people

00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:49.460
that are impulsive. that end up finding their

00:34:49.460 --> 00:34:54.000
purpose when, you know, they're in that impulsive

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.400
state. But you fulfilled on what it was that

00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.300
you wanted to do in a theater. Like, what was

00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:11.579
the draw to the theater that was like, or writing

00:35:11.579 --> 00:35:14.159
your playwright? I said, I want to make this

00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.280
happen. Like I said, it's it's not so much to

00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.679
draw the goal because with the play That was

00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.639
born from one reason. It was a roommate of mine

00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.699
It was her birthday and I wanted to I didn't

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:27.920
have any money. So I wanted to give her the gift

00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.380
of monologue She was an actress. So I created

00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:32.699
this character Ileana Lopez and I wrote four,

00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.840
you know good sized monologues for and it was

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.780
just a part of the story and then After I gave

00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:40.920
it to her I had it so I just kept on going with

00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.659
it and within like three more weeks I had this

00:35:43.659 --> 00:35:45.280
script done So it's like, it wasn't something

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.139
I was thinking about, I just ran with it. I find

00:35:48.139 --> 00:35:50.920
myself in situations and I just need to act.

00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.300
And not act in the sense of perform, but just,

00:35:55.579 --> 00:35:58.219
I mean, I guess it's the same, like I said, the

00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:00.599
word gets in the way because instead of act,

00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:03.780
I just needed to be. Because that's what acting

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:05.079
has become. It's not about acting anymore. It's

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.519
about becoming, being. So that's where I'm in.

00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.559
I'm in a constant state of needing to be, but

00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:11.619
I don't always know what I need to be because

00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:13.940
I spent, because like I said, I started this

00:36:13.940 --> 00:36:17.420
when I was four. So I have so many different

00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:20.360
versions of myself that I switch in and out constantly

00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.260
throughout the day, because in order to experience

00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:26.320
life, I have to live life through them. So I'll

00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.599
get into these versions of me and look at the

00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.440
world through them. whatever I'm doing, and I'll

00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.239
just switch through. So it's like I said, that's

00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.619
just how I live. And because it's the way I live,

00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.639
a byproduct is I just do stuff. If someone's

00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.079
listening to you now, I know we kind of talked

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.920
about it. And we talked, you talked about being,

00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:48.139
and there's a difference between pretending to

00:36:48.139 --> 00:36:49.440
be and I know we talked about it a little bit,

00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:54.079
but just to go a little deeper, how can someone

00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:58.949
who's entrepreneur entrepreneur or not? They

00:36:58.949 --> 00:37:03.090
can tell the difference when they're becoming

00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:06.670
Those the things that we're talking about or

00:37:06.670 --> 00:37:10.530
they're pretending I think one of the one of

00:37:10.530 --> 00:37:13.489
the easiest and best indicators is one we won't

00:37:13.489 --> 00:37:16.429
look at Because the honest day like I've known

00:37:16.429 --> 00:37:18.590
this and I've seen it in other people when you're

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:20.969
BS and yourself, you know It doesn't matter what

00:37:20.969 --> 00:37:22.969
it is. You know, you're BS yourself. Yeah, you

00:37:22.969 --> 00:37:24.829
may have a wall up because it's something there's

00:37:24.829 --> 00:37:27.400
there's a Cognitive dissidence you're going on

00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.420
that you need but at the end of the day if You

00:37:31.420 --> 00:37:33.800
sit alone with yourself. You will be simple and

00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.400
truthful. You'll see that and that's the indicator

00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.639
It's like when you're doing something and we

00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.519
have to practice that first because it's that's

00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.300
like it's like going to the gym You got to think

00:37:43.300 --> 00:37:45.360
about do this work like going to the gym building

00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.500
your emotions building your mind You have to

00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:49.780
do these things you have to exercise them So

00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:51.539
if you go to this place where you're alone with

00:37:51.539 --> 00:37:54.079
yourself exercise that Find a place where you're

00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.000
simple and truthful. Whenever you're in that

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.719
situation, go right back there and the bullshit

00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.179
flag will come up or go down. You'll sense it

00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:03.159
right then. And if you smell that stink, you

00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.260
know, wow, this isn't it. I'm not feeling it.

00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.199
And two, another factor, when you start exercising

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.360
your emotions, I promise you, people will start

00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.519
saying two words. They will say, wow, you're

00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.130
impassioned. Oh, man, you're intense. Passion

00:38:16.130 --> 00:38:18.230
and intense will come up a lot. That is another

00:38:18.230 --> 00:38:19.809
flag right there that you're doing the right

00:38:19.809 --> 00:38:22.869
thing. Because if you're pouring out this passion,

00:38:23.070 --> 00:38:25.469
emotional passion and intensity, you're infecting

00:38:25.469 --> 00:38:27.130
other people. And that's one thing you need as

00:38:27.130 --> 00:38:28.670
an entrepreneur, because that's how you wrap

00:38:28.670 --> 00:38:31.090
people around your finger. You infect them. The

00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:33.769
best way to infect them, learn how your emotions

00:38:33.769 --> 00:38:36.889
work, because that's what we do. It's like, are

00:38:36.889 --> 00:38:40.730
you familiar with the it factor? Yes. Can you

00:38:40.730 --> 00:38:45.159
break it down? I've never tried because when

00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:46.840
people talk about the it factor is something

00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.820
that's pretty intangible. All right, let me let

00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:53.400
me rattle this off real quick. Go ahead. I'm

00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.340
saying this five things. If you learn these five

00:38:56.340 --> 00:39:00.199
skills, you can have the effect. Active listening,

00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:08.880
charm, intensity, generosity, and poise. So one

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.519
more time. Active listening. So basically active

00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:15.980
listening is hearing what the other person is

00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:18.139
saying truly. You're paying attention to what

00:39:18.139 --> 00:39:21.860
they're saying to understand, not to repeat back.

00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.099
Charm. Charm is infection. It's just that nice

00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:27.199
personality where you're warm, you're friendly,

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:30.119
you're caring. Intensity. Again, that's that

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.019
emotional passion that you're pouring out. You're

00:39:32.019 --> 00:39:33.699
laying into people. They feel that intensity.

00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.199
They get infected by it, right? Generosity, and

00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.159
this isn't generosity with money. This is generosity

00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:41.940
with your time, with your kindness. I see you

00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:44.980
as a human being. You matter to me and I care

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:47.840
about you. That generosity with your spirit.

00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.219
And poise. Poise is one of those things where

00:39:51.219 --> 00:39:53.820
you have your body doing work for you. Where

00:39:53.820 --> 00:39:55.719
you got somebody walking across a red carpet,

00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:57.599
you know how to stand, you're paying attention,

00:39:57.780 --> 00:39:59.840
you're focused. You're not focused, but you understand

00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.760
that my body has to sit a certain way in order

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.539
for people to take me at hand. It's kind of like

00:40:06.539 --> 00:40:09.400
I heard there's like certain people who look,

00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.420
they'll go through like coaches and stuff like

00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:13.300
that. Celebrities, not celebrities, but political

00:40:13.300 --> 00:40:15.280
officials. They'll go through the same thing

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.119
so they can stand right, so they can walk right.

00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.739
So it's something we haven't taken the time to

00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:21.940
break down, but when you break it down, once

00:40:21.940 --> 00:40:24.260
you understand it, now it becomes teachable.

00:40:25.699 --> 00:40:27.920
And it takes the intangible to something tangible

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.039
for a mental understanding. And I was affected

00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.579
by just those five steps because I was listening

00:40:34.579 --> 00:40:40.269
for Um, if you know, not necessarily me, but

00:40:40.269 --> 00:40:44.610
who would have that? And I mean, it could be

00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:46.989
automatic and automatically generated from just

00:40:46.989 --> 00:40:51.250
who you are. So it could be taught. That's the

00:40:51.250 --> 00:40:53.590
key thing. Some people are born with it, but

00:40:53.590 --> 00:40:57.170
everybody can learn it. Yeah. You know, that's,

00:40:57.269 --> 00:40:59.130
I mean, dude, I'm sitting here. I'm gonna call

00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:03.570
you dude, but I'm sitting here and I'm like,

00:41:03.590 --> 00:41:07.849
man, that's pretty powerful. And anybody that's

00:41:07.849 --> 00:41:13.269
listening, I mean, that's really take that and

00:41:13.269 --> 00:41:16.190
just apply it to yourself. Just go ahead and

00:41:16.190 --> 00:41:19.829
wash over it. Where did that come from? Where

00:41:19.829 --> 00:41:22.150
did you come at those steps? Because I really

00:41:22.150 --> 00:41:25.869
believe that that may be actually what equals

00:41:25.869 --> 00:41:29.050
the it factor. Well, it's just one of those things

00:41:29.050 --> 00:41:33.449
where there's no real definition for it. So anybody

00:41:33.449 --> 00:41:37.010
can come up with their own. So it's just over

00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:39.050
this lifetime of accumulating all this information,

00:41:39.269 --> 00:41:42.710
plugging it all down and honest to God, my my

00:41:42.710 --> 00:41:44.449
ghostwriter helped me out with it too, because

00:41:44.449 --> 00:41:47.949
I got to see the Godfather movies. Yeah. When

00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:50.230
I handed my manuscripts, I wrote 120 ,000 words,

00:41:50.289 --> 00:41:52.809
he cut it down to 60. But when I handed him my

00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:55.190
manuscript, it was Fredo. When he handed me my

00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:57.440
manuscript back, it was Michael. Like it was

00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.219
like, I read the book after you hand it back,

00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:02.579
like, bro, who is this guy? It was, but it is,

00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.300
it was just one of those things where it was,

00:42:04.300 --> 00:42:07.400
it was a couple of different things, but it all

00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.679
boils down to the same thing. It's like, this

00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.059
isn't as intangible as we thought. It's a lot

00:42:13.059 --> 00:42:16.059
more tangible. Like in my book, the third chapter

00:42:16.059 --> 00:42:19.019
is referred to as the intangible toolbox. And

00:42:19.019 --> 00:42:21.699
it breaks down Stanislavsky, Meisner, Hagen,

00:42:21.980 --> 00:42:23.960
improv, and it's just like some of the exercises.

00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.610
I mean, there's many more, but It's taking what

00:42:27.610 --> 00:42:30.449
once was intangible, we can't really understand

00:42:30.449 --> 00:42:32.989
the spirit, the oohs and the ahs, and saying,

00:42:33.070 --> 00:42:36.710
nah, man, these cats, they broke it down. Because

00:42:36.710 --> 00:42:38.409
that's what they did. This isn't a get rich scheme.

00:42:38.530 --> 00:42:40.090
This isn't something somebody's coming up to

00:42:40.090 --> 00:42:43.219
get your mind pumped up. No. Artists dedicated

00:42:43.219 --> 00:42:45.699
their lives. These were masters who were respected,

00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:48.639
dedicated their lives to their craft. Their craft

00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.260
just happened to be the human mind and emotions.

00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:53.780
And we don't have a mind and emotions for the

00:42:53.780 --> 00:42:55.619
stage and one for life. It's one and the same.

00:42:55.619 --> 00:43:00.260
So the tools work. Yeah. I mean, I think it's

00:43:00.260 --> 00:43:03.079
interesting, especially, I mean, we're recording

00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:07.539
this on, what, since March 8th. And it's interesting

00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:11.380
that you're saying all this because there's so

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:16.000
much mess and I won't keep it nonpartisan, no

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.340
politics or anything, but there's a lot of stuff

00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:21.980
that's happening that is tearing people apart.

00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.659
And I think that in what you're saying, there

00:43:26.659 --> 00:43:29.900
could be a lot of problem solving once we really

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:32.699
get just connected with who we are as people

00:43:32.699 --> 00:43:36.659
and not. pretend to be somebody else or pretend

00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:39.940
to be somebody else for somebody else. Honestly,

00:43:40.619 --> 00:43:43.360
I'll say this right here, and it made me dip

00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:44.760
in a little in politics, but I don't mean it

00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.699
to. If we study these techniques, we'll pull

00:43:47.699 --> 00:43:49.599
back the curtain and we'll realize something

00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.480
that we're overlooking. This isn't a culture

00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.579
war. It's not a civil war. It's a class war.

00:43:54.980 --> 00:43:56.739
The left and right are connected to the same

00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:59.719
body, the 1%. Once we realize that, we'll stop

00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.440
fighting each other because the The ups created

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.300
the left and right so the downs can fight each

00:44:04.300 --> 00:44:06.980
other. The only reason Democrats and Republicans

00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:09.639
are fighting is because they don't understand

00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:11.559
what's going on enough to know that they're all

00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.880
being manipulated. So once we take that into

00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.059
our hands, because that's also another problem.

00:44:18.099 --> 00:44:21.179
We say we the people on the Constitution, but

00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:24.380
that's not what it is. We vote people in, and

00:44:24.380 --> 00:44:26.679
that's basically just being a bystander in our

00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:29.860
government. You know, we the people means that

00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.800
All Americans, all civil offices from US president

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.880
down to county comptroller should be rotated

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.719
in and out by all Americans. Nobody should be

00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:40.420
doing two terms, three terms. There's too many

00:44:40.420 --> 00:44:43.300
of us. Once we start rotating everybody in and

00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:45.719
out, it'll change the way we live because the

00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.480
people on top will have to go back to the bottom.

00:44:48.099 --> 00:44:50.699
So they're not gonna screw things up. It's up

00:44:50.699 --> 00:44:53.179
to us. But once we realize that, once we unlock

00:44:53.179 --> 00:44:55.559
all of our best selves, we'll see the world in

00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.940
a whole different way and manipulation won't

00:44:57.940 --> 00:45:01.590
handle us that way. I agree with that. Um, and

00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:05.110
I won't, I won't outskirt a little bit to outside

00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:09.769
the circle. I do, I do do another show called

00:45:09.769 --> 00:45:12.550
the grit where that would be something that we

00:45:12.550 --> 00:45:17.550
could talk about. But, um, but so how do, how

00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:20.449
can, again, this, this podcast is, you know,

00:45:20.650 --> 00:45:23.909
aspiring entrepreneur, beginning business owners,

00:45:24.590 --> 00:45:27.869
how can aspiring entrepreneurs balance the logic

00:45:27.869 --> 00:45:31.960
and emotion? when making decisions. So we're

00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.920
kind of talking about that now. Again, that's

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.400
what these tools are for, to that balance, because

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.280
how can you achieve balance if you don't exercise?

00:45:39.619 --> 00:45:41.380
If you don't exercise your mind and emotions,

00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:44.260
how can you ever get there? So the fact that

00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:48.239
you do these exercises are, let me just hit one

00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.750
last thing. I want to read you a list of soft

00:45:50.750 --> 00:45:53.570
skills that are either learned directly or indirectly

00:45:53.570 --> 00:45:55.909
by these tools and techniques, and then tell

00:45:55.909 --> 00:45:58.429
me as an entrepreneur how many of these would

00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:02.969
help. Presence, situational awareness, initiative,

00:46:03.389 --> 00:46:07.050
grit, projection, wit, breeziness, motivation,

00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:09.829
emotional regulation, empathy, critical thinking,

00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:13.150
teamwork, public speaking, problem solving, creativity,

00:46:13.489 --> 00:46:16.349
listening, independence, mindfulness, preparation.

00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:19.309
organization, goal orientation, interpersonal

00:46:19.309 --> 00:46:21.429
skills, communication. Like I said, that's a

00:46:21.429 --> 00:46:24.590
short list. It's a bundle. Yeah, this is stuff

00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:28.349
that we aren't taught systemically. But by doing

00:46:28.349 --> 00:46:30.889
these tools and techniques, you're going to learn

00:46:30.889 --> 00:46:33.170
them. It's like I said before, it's like when

00:46:33.170 --> 00:46:36.469
we gave the world written literacy in the form

00:46:36.469 --> 00:46:38.809
of language, changed the world. When we gave

00:46:38.809 --> 00:46:41.349
the world numerical literacy in the form of mathematics,

00:46:41.769 --> 00:46:43.869
changed the world. Why wouldn't it change the

00:46:43.869 --> 00:46:46.090
world if we gave them emotional mental literacy?

00:46:46.210 --> 00:46:48.170
It's just a new form of literacy to add on the

00:46:48.170 --> 00:46:50.570
table and all the skills that open up with it

00:46:50.570 --> 00:46:53.289
will be transformative. Because again, it's dealing,

00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:56.130
this is the information that deals with the supercomputer

00:46:56.130 --> 00:47:02.070
that is your brain. What's your big game? Say

00:47:02.070 --> 00:47:05.769
again? What's your big game? My big game? I don't

00:47:05.769 --> 00:47:08.650
know that I have one. It's because this isn't

00:47:08.809 --> 00:47:11.250
I'm not the hero this idea needs. I'm the hobo

00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:13.730
it has. I shouldn't be doing this. But it's like

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:16.070
one of those things where I would like to be

00:47:16.070 --> 00:47:19.090
doing other things with my life, but the magnitude

00:47:19.090 --> 00:47:22.110
of this idea that sits on me, it's taken over.

00:47:22.150 --> 00:47:25.230
I can't overlook it. I can't say, I'm just gonna

00:47:25.230 --> 00:47:28.329
do my thing. So I don't know if that's my game,

00:47:28.730 --> 00:47:31.769
but it is the charge that I have, you know? It

00:47:31.769 --> 00:47:35.090
fell in my lap and now until I see it to a better

00:47:35.090 --> 00:47:38.900
place, I have to carry it. I can't not. It just

00:47:38.900 --> 00:47:42.440
doesn't compute with me. What do you hope to

00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:47.380
see with what you're sharing, you being the messenger

00:47:47.380 --> 00:47:55.599
for this message? What changes do you hope to

00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.159
see happen? As a global thing, I would like to

00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.280
see everyone use it. On a minor scale, I would

00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.340
like to see it implemented in the school systems.

00:48:04.909 --> 00:48:06.909
alongside reading and math. Because like I said,

00:48:06.929 --> 00:48:08.650
if we do this, we're going to raise a whole new

00:48:08.650 --> 00:48:10.730
generation of mentally and emotionally capable

00:48:10.730 --> 00:48:13.309
people we've never seen before. But on the magnitude

00:48:13.309 --> 00:48:15.309
further than that, it's like if you think of

00:48:15.309 --> 00:48:17.449
a country with a small nation that doesn't have

00:48:17.449 --> 00:48:20.010
many resources, if they took this information

00:48:20.010 --> 00:48:23.190
to heart, they would just quantify their resources

00:48:23.190 --> 00:48:26.190
in human minds, human mental and emotional output.

00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:28.630
Because now you would have a nation of people

00:48:28.630 --> 00:48:30.670
who could see things most, it would be like a

00:48:30.670 --> 00:48:33.050
superpower. like Wakanda in a sense. You have

00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:35.869
a whole nation of people that can see, feel,

00:48:36.070 --> 00:48:39.369
and do things that most other people can't because

00:48:39.369 --> 00:48:41.230
they took the time to practice. It's kind of

00:48:41.230 --> 00:48:43.869
like a Shaolin temple. You go in there, you're

00:48:43.869 --> 00:48:45.449
gonna get housed because these guys spent their

00:48:45.449 --> 00:48:48.670
entire lives practicing kung fu. If you get a

00:48:48.670 --> 00:48:50.869
nation, like a micro nation, that all their people

00:48:50.869 --> 00:48:53.329
took this to heart and practiced it all the live

00:48:53.329 --> 00:48:55.489
long day, I guarantee you it'd be like a little

00:48:55.489 --> 00:48:58.030
nation with a superpower. Just a superpower.

00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:03.079
That's yeah, I like that. I like that man were

00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:08.760
you talking about Are you pointing to emotional

00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.860
intelligence? When you're saying yes, that is

00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:14.400
that it's it's not all it's much more than that

00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.059
But that is 100 % in this emotional intelligence.

00:49:17.059 --> 00:49:22.139
Yes emotional regulation Okay now that Again,

00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.900
I'm gonna use the word acting if the acting techniques

00:49:24.900 --> 00:49:28.599
were incorporated into business training though

00:49:28.539 --> 00:49:32.199
How do you think that the companies would change?

00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:35.519
Well, I think the best place to implement it

00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.300
would probably be through HR just because this

00:49:37.300 --> 00:49:39.780
is human resources. But it would change the way

00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:41.940
people treat each other, the way they behave.

00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:46.800
If you start teaching empathy, it will change

00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:48.320
the corporate environment because the corporate

00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.320
environment has become very cutthroat. You can't

00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.619
trust people a lot nowadays because how can you

00:49:53.619 --> 00:49:55.780
share ideas openly in a place where this guy

00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:58.829
might snag my idea? You know, I mean, I don't

00:49:58.829 --> 00:50:00.369
know there's any truth to it. I'll just use an

00:50:00.369 --> 00:50:02.190
example, but the whole Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg

00:50:02.190 --> 00:50:04.769
and the, the, the fire moss twins, whether the

00:50:04.769 --> 00:50:06.570
twins were like, you know, I don't know if that's

00:50:06.570 --> 00:50:09.349
true or not, but it's that culture does exist

00:50:09.349 --> 00:50:11.510
where if you start telling you like even in the

00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:14.150
film world, you have a screenplays, you don't

00:50:14.150 --> 00:50:15.889
want to start telling your stories out there.

00:50:15.889 --> 00:50:17.329
Cause somebody else is going to write that story.

00:50:17.489 --> 00:50:20.010
And I think that's true. Yeah, exactly. We see

00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:22.650
it prevalent everywhere. If we start teaching

00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:24.750
these skills, emotional intelligence, cause emotional

00:50:24.750 --> 00:50:27.250
intelligence isn't just, I mean, Some people

00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:29.409
it's just a word. What does that mean to some

00:50:29.409 --> 00:50:32.070
people? Emotional intelligence is about you don't

00:50:32.070 --> 00:50:34.309
have all your emotions. You know, it's like if

00:50:34.309 --> 00:50:36.050
you look at the script, the script is a coloring

00:50:36.050 --> 00:50:38.590
book. Your soul's the box of crayons. Some people

00:50:38.590 --> 00:50:40.489
have eight. Some people have 64. Some people

00:50:40.489 --> 00:50:43.530
have 128. But that person who has eight can grow

00:50:43.530 --> 00:50:46.530
to 128. It's just how much are you feeling? What

00:50:46.530 --> 00:50:48.829
are you experiencing? Because there's a book.

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:52.880
Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett how emotions are made

00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.340
the secret life of the brain I think it's called

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where she presents the theory of constructed

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emotions to supplant the old theory of the triune

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brain Whereas she's presenting using data like

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computers and stuff because she's a brain scientist

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showing how emotions created through the entire

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brain You know, it's not just the reptilian brain

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the mammalian brain and the other one So it's

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like we have science to support this evidence

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that We're doing something here with these emotions,

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how it's changing the mind, it's changing the

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way we think. And if we do that, we implement

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it into the corporate structure, we'll change

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our corporate world because now we'll care more

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about each other. And people always say it's

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weak. I don't think that's weak. That's how we

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build civilizations. That's how we build strong

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foundations. That's how we build families, cultures,

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clans. So if we start teaching this to people

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in a business environment, like the leader, the

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entrepreneur says, this is how we're going to

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be, we're going to look out for each other. They'll

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follow because that's what their leader is saying.

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Now, if their leader is saying, screw them, we're

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going to get her, we can't for herself. What

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do you think your people are going to be? So

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it's what are you giving your family as an entrepreneur?

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What are you feeding them mentally and emotionally

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to grow and develop them? Because it's not just

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about growing you as the entrepreneur. You can

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grow you all day long and have poisonous troops

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and you're not going to get anywhere. If you

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grow you and your troops and lead like a true

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leader, you'll have a force that can fight anywhere.

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that connects back to what you're talking about

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like uh like the magical nation, right? Uh huh.

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And it's not only caring for yourself but caring

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for yourself and the people that you that you're

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in connection with that's connected to you. But

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you can't act it. You have to be it. You have

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to be it. Yeah. I I mean that's it's not even

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like confusing. It's not deep. I mean it is deep.

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But it's not where it's not so deep where you

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just it's not understandable. I think the most

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profound thing is it's been overlooked for 100

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years. That that would be profound. But it's

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been here. It's been here. You know, hiding in

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plain sight. And you're out there, you're sharing

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it. And I appreciate it. I appreciate you coming

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on the show. I have one question for you. What's

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one piece of advice you give to someone struggling?

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with self -doubt, with emotions, you know, in

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their entrepreneurial journey or just in the

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journey in general. Be curious. And I say that

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because in life, we have insecurities. What do

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we call insecurities in acting, in the acting

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world? Generally refer to, go ahead. No, go ahead.

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I'm sorry. Generally refer to it as stage fright.

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When you're insecure, Your state's right. Why

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do you have states right because you haven't

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answered all the moments You haven't answered

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all the questions. You don't have all the knowledge

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you need to be in that moment if you're curious

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You start answering these questions you fill

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in all those so you're not gonna have those because

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that's where insecurities are born from those

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empty spaces in us Why do you have those empty

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spaces? What do you fill it with needless junk

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or actually developing yourself into someone

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strong enough to answer those situations? It's

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like There's a quote if you ever hear that I

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used to think this was the old military quote

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But it blew my mind how far back it goes and

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it goes back to a poet. It was a Greek military

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poet named Arkelia Coase and it was uh, oh I

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got right here We don't rise to the level of

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our expectations. We fall to the level of our

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training So yeah, yeah, we start as a military.

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I mean get is a military thing I just didn't

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realize it went back to a poet 2 ,500 years ago,

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but that's what I'm saying is like If you're

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curious, you're going to grow and develop yourself.

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And if you grow and develop yourself, you're

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not going to be insecure in those places because

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you're actually answering the questions you need

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to know. So you don't have to have that insecurity.

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You don't have that stage fright anymore. Don't

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be curious. So be curious. I'm curious to know

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how people get in touch with you. There's a couple

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of different ways. I have a website. It's www.

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TBC enterprises .com. That's Tango Bravo Charlie

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TBC. I wrote a book. It's uh, sorry. It's called

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all your best selves. Uh, you can get it on Amazon.

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Uh, that's the only place right now at Kindle

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or paperback. I'm also on, uh, what do you call

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it? Social media. I started that a little over

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a year ago, a little less than a year ago. Last

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May I started it. Um, I have Instagram, Facebook,

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YouTube, TikTok, and it's all under the, uh,

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handle soy candy. S O I C A N D I E. Oh, that's

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what that is. Okay. I was trying to figure out.

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I was like, so yeah, I didn't know what it was.

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But it's cool. Now I know. Again, it was impulse.

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The name just popped up. And you have your own

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podcast as well, right? Actually, no, I don't

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have a podcast. I just interview. I use Podmatch.

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So it's like all 20 have been on different podcasts.

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Well, keep it up, man. Really share this knowledge.

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I'm trying with people man. I think is I think

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it's really good for the people for people to

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really get in connection with who they are as

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people like the emotional regulation, emotional

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intelligence or and really being curious about

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life and just being able to have critical thought

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think for yourself. But you know, just become

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the greatness that you are. Anything else you

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would you like to say to people? Honestly, I

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probably can go on for a couple days, but I want

00:56:32.820 --> 00:56:36.539
to kill that time. No, we're good, man. Yeah,

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like I said, it was just, it's a great experience.

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I really appreciate your energy and being on

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the show. And it's, like I said, I really feel

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like this is going to bring us to a new future.

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We just got to take it to heart. Keep sharing,

00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.699
man. Keep sharing, Jim. I mean, it's the tools,

00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.280
the techniques that we talked about, you know,

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for anybody listening, go back, listen to it.

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take notes and connect get connected with Jim

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and get that book. And Jim, appreciate you being

00:57:04.059 --> 00:57:07.059
on the podcast. You know, it was very enlightening

00:57:07.059 --> 00:57:09.679
and talking to another fellow actor that has

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this kind of thought is pretty, pretty cool.

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I appreciate you. So thank you. And all the listeners

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00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.179
Joe. Thank you. Have a great day. Before you

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