I mean, what would you say to your, from now
the things that you experienced, what would you
tell that person now? Well, I would, and again,
this is a lot of the system that I teach people
with is, you know, understanding that, you know,
you, you need to, you need to set a goal. You
need to understand how to set goals. So I would
have told the early me sit down, define why you're
here, set your goal. And you need to understand
that you're struggling to get out of your comfort
zone. Okay. So we're going to first figure out
what are the traits. What are your personality
traits that are keeping you from doing what you
need to do? Or what are the personality traits
that are keeping you stuck in your comfort zone?
And for me, as I mentioned, I'm a procrastinator,
I have a fear of rejection, I care too much about
what other people think, and I'm easily distracted.
So then you need to create an, I would say, create
an action plan, get on a schedule, and at the
end of the day, that you should cultivate your
goals, okay? So let's say it's something entrepreneurial,
you want to drive your income to a new level.
Or if it's a diet, you want to lose 20 pounds,
whatever. When you get to that point, where your
income is where you'd like it to be, or you've
lost the weight. What will have changed with
you? What will have changed? Are you wearing
different clothes? Are you buying a new car?
Whatever it is, I encourage, honestly, a vision
board or a dream board. And this stuff, again,
a lot of people look at this stuff and they go,
well, that's kind of corny. Yeah, but people
that think it's corny are people that typically
- I would say this way, when you're in an environment
that doesn't support you and whatever it is that
you're trying to manifest in your life, it can
be more difficult. But not everybody knows how
to create the environment or create the mindset
to shift their mindsets. Stay focused? And stay
focused, yes. Well, like you just said, just
the awareness of understanding why you're feeling,
that you are feeling these feelings right now,
that maybe you're discouraged. Maybe you feel
like you're on an island all by yourself and
you don't have the support. Maybe you don't feel
like you're getting the results that you really
expected to be getting by now. Well, obviously,
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Let's get ready to, you know, shift our mindset,
crush our goals today and disrupt the cycle of
mediocrity because today we're talking to Shane
Perry. And I know we had a little conversation,
but Shane, how are you doing today? I'm doing
great, Michael. Thanks a lot for having me. I
really appreciate it. Absolutely. Like I said
before, in the green room, as I call it, I'm
happy to have you on, you know, did research
about you and found out, I was like, man, this
is an extraordinary individual and I'm glad to
have him on. And I just want to know today with
everything that's going on, how are you experiencing
life today? Personally, life is great. Life is
great. I mean, like a lot of entrepreneurs, I
built a business and it took care of me and I'm
living the free and financially independent life
and really focusing on disruption factor and
helping people and just spending time with my
adult kids and just enjoying life. It's good.
Yeah. Yeah. See, I like that answer. I like the
fact you can experience that. And I asked that
question because, you know, I talked to people
and it's not that answer. You know, it's more
of the, you know, kind of the was me and I like
to find out like how people are really experiencing
life. Because you might be standing next to one
person and they're experiencing life completely
different. And I mean, you know, before we get
to what it means to disrupt, you know, and what
that factor is all about. You spent, you have
an incredible year, career, like 35 years I see
here. What inspired you to become an entrepreneur?
Well, back then, I was 21 years old when I was
introduced to an opportunity. And for me, it
was just pure logic based. You know, I knew that
I did not want a boss. I hated having a boss
already at the young age of 21. And to me, I
just wanted freedom. It really wasn't about the
money. It was freedom. I didn't want to have
a boss. I wanted to do my own thing. And so when
I got that opportunity, you know, I obviously
I went for it. But my primary drive was I just
wanted the freedom. It was more important than
the money to me. Yeah, you know, that's when
I look at the generation now, I feel like this
with their whole their their their thing is like,
I don't want to boss, I want to work for myself.
And I'm building my business for, you know, my
younger generation, if they they choose to, you
know, take it on. But in the earlier days that
you had, you had some struggles that you that
that in the beginning, what were those struggles?
And how did you face them? Yeah, my you know,
the business I've got involved in, obviously,
like most businesses that had to do with some
sales that had to do with prospecting, talking
to people. And I was honestly, I was scared to
death to talk to people I was I had an intense
fear of rejection. I was very concerned about
what everybody thought. So I was a really slow
starter because I just couldn't get out of my
own way. And that's that's part of what helped
create the system eventually that allowed me
to be successful. And that system is now what
I teach through disruption factor to other entrepreneurs
and fitness and everything else. But for me,
it was just a real fear of rejection, fear of
what people were going to think, what people
were going to say. I'm a natural procrastinator.
And I'm easily distracted. So those, those four
things do not combine well. If you're in a business
where you're 10 99, you're self -employed, you
need to find the motivation. And it entails a
lot of talking to people and prospecting. So
finally it just got to a point where I just like,
Hey, you know, I've got to plant my feet and
just go do it. And I just forced myself to go
do what I needed to do. And of course, like most
of the time you realize that. You've been building
it up for nothing. It's not that hard. You know,
people don't think anything. It's, you know,
rejection's okay. And then I just got out of
my way and just kind of took off with it at that
point. What was that shift though? Like, so if
like, I'm thinking, I will, I was a procrastinator,
but I would, I'm a creative, right? So things
have to flow a certain way had things have to,
you know, be aligned a certain way for me to
feel like I got the move. I don't act that way
anymore, but that was, that was a thing for me.
What was it? What was the thing for you? that
said, you know what, you know, I am a procrastinator,
but I'm going to move forward with my life anyway,
with what I'm choosing. Simple, because I finally
got to a point where I'm like, look, what am
I going to do? Go back and get a job. I was delivering
beer for a living. That's the only job I didn't
go to college. And I have two jobs in my whole
life. I worked at a gun range and I delivered
beer. And I'm like, if I don't make this happen,
I'm going to end up having to go get a job. And
there's just no way. So I was more scared by
that. Mm hmm. Scared at the prospect of what
if I don't do this versus excited about the prospect
of what if I do it and all the financial rewards
that could come. So I just finally got to a point
where I felt I had no choice. I've got to go
get it done. And I did just you know, you just
push through it. You push through. So I really
wish I would have known then what I know now
would have been a lot easier. Right? Yeah. So
I mean, what would you say to your from now the
things that you experienced? What would you tell
that person now? Well, I would. And again, this
is a lot of the system that I teach people with
is, you know, understanding that, you know, you
need to you need to set a goal, you need to understand
how to set goals. So I would have told the early
me, sit down, define why you're here, set your
goal. And you need to understand that you're
struggling to get out of your comfort zone. Okay,
so we're going to first figure out what are the
traits. What are your personality traits that
are keeping you from doing what you need to do?
Or what are the personality traits that are keeping
you stuck in your comfort zone? And for me, as
I mentioned, I'm a procrastinator. I have a fear
of rejection. I care too much about what other
people think and I'm easily distracted. So then
you need to create an, I would say, create an
action plan, get on a schedule. And at the end
of the day, there is no magic pill. You just,
for my situation, you just literally have to
go out and start doing it. You got to tackle
it head on. And you're going to realize that
all of the stuff that you've been built up in
your head is not as big as you think it is. There's
a saying that thinking sucks, but doing is awesome.
So stop thinking and just go do it. Right. Cause
even if I would have told myself, even when you
go do it, even if you have a bad day, you get
no yeses, you get, you get nowhere, but you did
it. You're going to feel good about yourself
because you did it. You know, and so a lot of
that coaching is what I would give someone in
my situation back then who knows what they want
to do, but they're just wondering why they're
not doing it. Yeah, the was there a mentality
shift for you? And if that was, I'm sure it was
but what was when you recognize that you're you're,
you know, you procrastinate, you're you have
a fear of what people think about you and the
others like when you recognize that Does that
make a difference? Sure. You know, to be real
honest with you, Michael, I was so young, I didn't
recognize it. It took years later looking back
to realize these are the things that really held
me back. In the meantime, during the moment,
I wasn't sitting there saying, well, my fear
of rejection and my fear of this, I didn't, I
just knew like, I want to go do it but I would
find myself just putting it off and putting it
off and then at the month would come and go and
then I'd agonize over man I really didn't do
anything you know what if my dad is right and
I should have never quit my job then we get in
our heads you know but but there was definitely
a mental shift when I started doing it of course
because once you start doing it you realize it's
not as bad as you as you built it up to be and
then you realize I mean you start seeing some
results then of course it just kind of goes I
think for me when I when I when I choose to make
a move to move forward in whatever I choose to
do. I think I'm result driven. I have to see
a result. Unless, you know, or otherwise I'm
like moving and moving and moving. And then I
then it's like, you know, what am I moving for?
What am I moving towards? What would you say
to somebody who who is moving towards something
or building something, but they don't see the
results, you know, right away? I would say if
I could take it back just a second, I would say
the kind of a synopsis here. There's five areas
of our life. There's relational, spiritual, recreational,
financial, our business, entrepreneurship, and
physical, which is typically fitness and diet.
So those are the five areas of our life. When
we decide that we want to take, say one of those
areas and we want to improve it, or we want to
take it to a new level. So let's say you're an
entrepreneur and you're starting a business or
you want to lose some weight. What people first
of all don't realize is that it requires you
to set a goal. A lot of people don't set goals.
They just say, I want to lose weight. They get
started with something, but sitting down and,
you know, writing down your goals, you know,
92 % of people who set goals in the world either
don't achieve them or even if they do, they revert
back. to where they were. So that can get discouraging
when people hear it. Like, well, so you're saying
I have an 8 % chance. No, that's not true. But
if you understand why this happens to people,
so why does this happen? Well, first of all,
they don't know how to properly set goals. Secondly,
they don't write them down. They don't cultivate
their goals and they don't create an action plan.
But then comes down to what you're talking about
here. Seeing those results. People need to understand
we've all heard of the comfort zone and that's
really my specialty on honestly is all things
comfort zone. But you know, you can go on social
media and see all the circles, comfort zone,
fear zone, growth zone, and all that. But rarely,
if ever, do you find someone that actually defines,
like, this is what it is. But let's talk about
how you built that comfort zone, because it was
built over years of habits and routines and a
paradigm. And in its simplest form, your paradigm
is your worldview at something. So let's say
that you want to lose weight. And your paradigm
is... Well, I've been heavy my whole life. I've
tried diets before. Most of them don't work.
Even the ones that did work. I ended up gaining
it back, but I'm going to give this one a shot.
So your parent on your worldview is already not
good and this contributes towards your comfort
zone and we can get into that later. But when
it comes to goals, goals have a couple things.
Every goal has a couple things in common and
the one that you're talking about pretty much
every goal. The one thing it has in common is
you're usually never where you thought you'd
be when you thought you'd be there. Right. Right.
And so that right there causes people, you know,
I want I joined a diet, I started dieting, and
I cleaned out my refrigerator, and I started
exercising, I'm going to bed hungry, and I'm
getting caffeine headaches, because I'm not drinking
soda. And I thought I wanted to lose 10 pounds
in my first month, and I lost a pound and a half.
And it's like, discouraging, and they revert
back you have to put so be preparing. For that
preparing that you're probably not going to be
where you thought you'd be when you thought you'd
be there, but you also have to work it in 90
day cycles. I believe and I teach people that
how to build your life in 90 day cycles, not
30 days, not two weeks, 90 days. Then the goal
is to move your life or that area. Whatever area
you're specifically trying to improve. Just move
that area forward every 90 days. Understanding
that when you first get started. The first 30
days is typically when all the pain comes, right?
You're uncomfortable. You're facing your cup.
You're you're out of your comfort zone. You're
not seeing the success that you thought you would
see, but you're putting in all the work and sacrifice
and it could be discouraging, but you've got
to get yourself on a 90 day cycle. By the end
of the 90 days, you're probably not going to
be where you thought you'd be. or you hoped you'd
be at that time. But I promise you, you will
have moved that area forward and you will have
seen results if you understand certain things.
So that was a long protracted answer to your
question. I'm sorry about that. But no, don't
be sorry. It was perfect because I mean, you
went deeper than what I originally, you know,
right. But what was so great? There's a lot of
things that I wrote here. First of all, 90 days
like you choose 90 days. Why? And the thing One
of the things that I thought my mind went to
right away was habit. Like maybe we are creating
something new, and then we bring the old habit
with us. But since we got to bring the whole
habit with us, we have to break that habit. And
that 90 day cycle may help reform what the habit
is in order to get to the goal that we're trying
to get to. Yeah, that that does have a lot to
do with it. 90 days, you're going to create new
habits, new routines, what was uncomfortable
will not be as uncomfortable anymore. And usually,
whether it's entrepreneurship, or any of the
five areas of our life, it takes about 90 days
to start seeing some real results. You know,
it's at the end of 90 days, if you if you created
the plan, you work the plan, you were diligent
at the end of 90 days, you will be able to look
back and say, I am not where I was 90 days ago.
Maybe I'm not where I thought I'd be. But I'm
definitely not where I used to be. And that's
exciting for people. If it's anything less, if
it's 30 days, if it's 45 days, it's typically
not enough to allow the results aspect to kick
in. And they think too short term. All they're
seeing is I've been doing this for a month. Nothing's
happening. It's just not working. I give up.
Mm -hmm. So 90 days to do that build it and and
it's also a good time like if you want to You
know, you're already doing something you maybe
you're already in business You're doing something
and now you want to take it to a new level 90
days is a good Okay, I'm gonna kick off a 90
day plan here and it's a good time You can go
do a sprint you can put your blinders on for
90 days and make the necessary Changes create
those new habits and start seeing some results
at the beginning of those 90 days. Would it would?
what would the beginning look like? Do they write
something whiteboard? Do you just say it in your
head? Like, what is that thing that will help
begin the paradigm shift of who they see themselves
being in the first of that, the first 90 day
or the beginning of the 90 days to when they're
going through the 90 days to the other side?
Yes. Well, it starts by understanding, as I mentioned,
that whatever it is you're trying to do, it requires
a goal to be set. So you actually have to write
down the goal. And as though I believe you should
surround yourself with your goal, but if you
just write it that the act of writing a goal
down typically is enough to solidify it into
you. Write it down, write down 90 day goals,
six month goal, and like a 12 month or a 12 month
and then a 24 month goal. Right where do i want
to be in 90 days yeah then i'm around this is
what you said with the whiteboard then i'm a
real believer and i teach my clients that you
should cultivate your goals okay so let's say
it's something entrepreneurial you want to drive
your income to a new level or if it's a diet
you want to lose 20 pounds whatever when you
get to that point where your income is where
you'd like it to be or you've lost the weight
What will have changed with you? What will have
changed? Are you wearing different clothes? Are
you buying a new car? Whatever it is, I encourage,
honestly, a vision board or a dream board. Again,
a lot of people look at the stuff and they go,
well, that's kind of corny. Yeah, but people
that think it's corny are people that typically
never achieved anything in their lives. Winners
don't think it's corny. Winners are going to
say, you need to write down goals and you should
surround yourself with it. If when you're making
$150 ,000 a year, you're going to buy this car
and live in this house, You should have pictures
of those cars and those houses on your bathroom
mirror, in your purse, on the dashboard of your
car. You need to cultivate it, not only to inspire
and motivate, but to remind you what you're doing,
because you're going to have a lot of bad days
too, and you're going to kind of forget what
you're here for. So writing down the goals, cultivating
those goals, surrounding yourself with them is
everything. Yes, absolutely, to help push you
and remind you. And honestly, I'm a big believer,
and I mentioned this a little bit in my own story,
but I teach people the concept of negative motivation.
And this is something, as you know, that in the
self -improvement, you know, personal development
space, everything is typically, you need to be
positive, positive's in, positive, and I agree,
you need to be positive. But I agree in negative
motivation. Negative motivation is like, okay,
let's go back to the diet and fitness. You started
your diet. A couple months go by, you've lost
a little weight, but it's not that easy. You
haven't lost as much as you thought, but it's
going. And then you have those moments like we
all do that. You think like, you know, I don't
feel like walking today. I don't feel like going
to the gym. It's going to be okay. Maybe, you
know, I'm trying not to drink during the week,
but maybe it's okay if I do today. People get
so caught up and you need to be motivated about
how great you're going to feel when you lose
your weight and you're able to wear those clothes.
but they don't remind them of, okay, imagine
this. Imagine you stop right now. How are you
gonna feel six months, a year, two years down
the road when you look in the mirror and you
have this thought for a split second and this
thought is, where would I be right now if I just
wouldn't have stopped? And that thought sends
a chill down your spine. That's a horrible, and
that's called negative motivation. Like if I
don't continue this, how am I gonna feel a year
down the road? when I have that one moment thinking
where would I be right now if I just would have
kept going that right there that That will keep
people going way more than the idea of how great
my life's gonna be should I achieve it. I think
Tony Robbins talks about that. He says people
will fight harder at the fear of losing than
they will at the idea of success. So I'm the
big believer in cultivating that negative motivation
in terms of I've gotta keep going because if
I don't keep going, I'm gonna be really upset
with myself and I'm not gonna be happy. Yeah,
I think that's probably what I'm somewhat motivated
by. Because I have that, you know, when I see
growth in my business or growth with what I'm
doing, and then there's moments where I'm like,
ah, you know what I mean? I just want to kind
of quit or choose something else. But since I've,
you know, grown this thing to such a level, like,
if I stopped, like, why would I do that? If I
keep going, you know, you never know what it's
gonna be like on the other side. going since
I I've grown it this much, it can still go go
go further, you know, and so I think I'm motivated
by like, the fact that I see something possible,
you know, and not having that possibility. really
messes me up if I don't, if I don't, you know,
keep going. Well, I think it's fair to say, Michael,
that you're, you're a natural probably achiever
anyways. I mean, the stuff that you've done,
um, as crazy as, as it might be. Most people
don't think that way. Most people will get excited
about something. And then they wake up the next
morning thinking of all the reasons why it isn't
why they shouldn't and why they can't, you know,
and they've tried things before and they fail.
So they got this paradigm. They're they're not
prepared to leave their comfort zone. They've
heard of the comfort zone. They don't understand
it. And they're definitely not prepared for what's
going to hit them when they leave it. And that's
a huge part of what I teach people is being prepared
for that, obviously, so they don't retreat. Yeah,
you talk about the comfort zone. And I think
I personally As far as back as I can remember,
I don't think I've ever been comfortable, comfortable.
I've been in a comfortable, comfortable, I can't
even say it, comfortable zone. But then I feel
like when I'm in that zone, there's something
else to be done, you know, or there's somewhere
where I can grow or manifest something, you know,
greater in my life. And when people get stuck
in that comfort zone, is that because of habit?
Is it is a or is it because of the paradigm that
they created for themselves? What is what is
that? Yeah, well, the comfort zone is it is your
biggest enemy. It is the enemy to your success
in any area of your life that you want to improve
or take to a new level. Your comfort zone is
the enemy of your success and people see it everywhere.
As I mentioned, they know they have one. But
yes, it was built over the years through habits
and routines. Uh, surrounded. We all typically
are hang out with people that are just like us.
So that's part of the comfort zone. If you're,
if you hang around people that are just like
you, no one's putting any pressure on you to
improve yourself because you all live essentially
the same lives, right? Um, so that's when you
leave that it's not comfortable. Um, and of course
our, our, our worldview, you know, you look at
entrepreneurship, for example, we, we've been
taught as a society that you go to school and
you get a job and you should be happy with that
job. It doesn't matter that if you go out into
your world and look around, you're gonna see
that almost everybody that you know or know of
that has the best lives, the most freedom, the
nicest cars, the biggest homes, the best vacations,
almost all of them are entrepreneurs, self -employed.
So we don't connect the dots that if living an
ideal life is to be an entrepreneur, why are
we taught from the time we're kids to be employees,
right? So that's a comfort zone. So when you
wake up one day and whether you decide to start
a business, Join a business, whatever it may
be, but you you have the goal of entrepreneurship.
I want to make more money. I want to create more
time, more freedom. I'm going to leave my job.
You're immediately hit with a lot of obstacles,
and that's the disruption you see. So when you
talk about that's where disruption factor, the
name of my company came from, because when people
ask me, they say, Shane, what is the number one
reason that when people embark on a goal and
then give up? And go back to their comfort zone.
In other words, where they were before they embarked
on their goal. What is the reason? Absolutely
100 % the biggest reason is they are not prepared
for the disruption that's going to occur when
they leave that comfort zone. So, you know, again,
diet and fitness, right? You're out of shape.
You're a little heavy. Let's say you want to
lose weight so you get fired up. You clean out
your refrigerator. You clean out your pantry.
You're not going to drink soda. You're going
to eat better. You're going to exercise. That
exercise might just be you walk, you know, walk
in a mile a day, three days a week. Might not
even, but it's something. Well, when you embark
on that. you're excited but the first thing you
get hit is the disruption to your life to your
routines to your habits right you're going to
bed hungry and that sucks you're getting caffeine
headaches and that's no fun you're trying you
know we're all busy already so you're trying
to carve out time to go do it and that's not
easy and then of course because it's fitness
you know after the first week or after the first
few days you're so sore you can't even brush
your teeth right it's nothing but discomfort
and it's disruption and not Not to mention the
fact, like we mentioned earlier, that you push
through that 30 days, let's say, went by and
you've done everything you're supposed to do.
It's not comfortable. You're getting killed and
you've lost one pound. You see, so they're just
not prepared for this. And meanwhile, you got
to remember that comfort zone where you were
before you embarked on this is sitting there
saying, Michael, come on back. It's nice here.
Remember you were comfortable here. You weren't
sore. Nobody was talking about you. Nobody, you
know, you weren't doing uncomfortable things.
If it's entrepreneurship, like with me, I was
delivering beer. Next thing you know, I get into
business where I have to call people up and try
to set appointments. That was the most uncomfortable
thing I've ever had to do in my life. It was
so uncomfortable that I avoided it for the long.
which is why I didn't have a whole lot of success.
So one of the exercises that I'll do for people,
that I'll have people do, that's in the workbooks,
I'll say, okay, I want you to try to define areas
of disruption. What do you think the disruption
is gonna look like? Michael, if you've never
worked out a day in your life, and your goal
is fitness, and I'm your guy, and I say, okay,
Michael, we're gonna talk about this, this is
what you're gonna do, what do you think? are
some areas of disruption. You might say, well,
I think I'm probably going to get pretty sore
because my body's not used to this. I think I'm
going to probably have cravings. I'm going to
it's going to be hard not to eat my favorite
foods. You know, if you can anticipate that disruption,
it's going to make it a lot easier to get through
it and not retreat back to your comfort zone.
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toward thriving. Okay. So, so talking, talking
it out or talking about it will help motivate
out. motivate someone to get out of sight outside
of that comfort zone. Because when I'm what I'm
thinking when you said all that, I was like,
I just when I find myself moving forward or outside
of the comfort zone or challenging myself, I
just found myself not wanting to go back to whatever
whatever it was. And sometimes, well, let's talk
about let's talk about diet and fitness or whatever.
Like, you know, athlete growing up in his athlete,
you know, well as an athlete. But then I'm 48
now, right? So it's like, Oh, well, I can kind
of let this go, you know, but I'll get to a certain
point where I'm like, Oh, this is not working.
The belly. I know the feeling. It's sitting like
somebody's grandpa. You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, I cannot deal with that. You know
what I mean? And there's that there's moments
that will say, you know, like, all right, time
out, bro. It's time to I like the word to use
is disrupt that behavior and that habit. And
do you do you find people really you want to
disrupt whatever those habits are and that that
that comfort zone, but live or deal with limiting
beliefs to get out of the past and or not the
past behavior and the into the new way of being
absolutely over, you know, success and failure
in almost every area comes down to a mentality.
It is a mental thing. You know, I there's almost
nothing that you can't do. The only reason you
won't do it is because of the mental process
For most things I mean I can't I can't step on
a major league baseball diamond and hit a 95
mile an hour fastball I mean, that's not real
this we're talking about improving our own lives
here not doing something like that, right? But
yeah, the limiting beliefs 100 % Because of the
paradigm again the paradigm and again in its
simplest form is just your worldview on something
And that you talk about entrepreneurship, for
example, Michael, what what if most of us, 97
% of Americans you classify as say, middle class
or just not rich, we were all taught certain
beliefs, I call it the middle class mentality.
And part of that is things like, hey, you should
be happy with what you got at least you have
a roof over your head you know a lot of people
would love to have your job you know people like
us don't make it right things like that that
we've that's been drilled into us so when we
talk about taking on an entrepreneurial venture
and maybe dramatically changing my life making
a lot more money and freedom everything that
we've been taught every way we've been brought
up has had us believe like people like us don't
do that. I should be happy with what I've got
and it's a and it's hard to overcome. So the
way you get that mental shift to happen is you've
got to put in those 90 -day cycles when you start
seeing some results because you know what happens
when you start seeing some results and some little
successes man oh man does that fire you up that
ignites you all of a sudden it's like you know
First 90 days, I lost a pound and a half or two,
this sucks. And all of a sudden you're like,
oh my gosh, I just lost five pounds. Or your
business has its first real good bump, you know,
and you're like, wow, I can do this and it works.
And then you're going and what you mentioned
a second ago about how if you stop, you'll kind
of get uncomfortable. You can't stay there. Well,
a lot of that has to do with, and this is another
thing that I teach people is ultimate. What is
the goal when you talk about comfort zones? The
goal is to ultimately build a new comfort zone.
And that new comfort zone happens through the
habits and the routines, doing what you need
to do, getting a couple 90 day cycles out of
your belt, seeing some results, seeing some successes.
You realize you're not struggling with what you
used to struggle with when you started. Then
what happens is if something happens, let's say
fitness, right? I got, I'm like you, I didn't
like how I felt. Four years ago, I'm 57 years
old. Four years ago, I got back in the gym. I'm
right now in probably the best physical shape
of my life, other than when I was a student athlete
or something. But I realized about nine months
into my fitness routine, four years ago, I was
traveling, I was in Nashville, and we just having
fun. And all of a sudden, like four or five days
into the trip, I realized I'm kind of grumpy,
I'm not really happy. I'm like, what's wrong
with me? And I realized, you know what, I'm frustrated
because I haven't exercised. And then right,
because I know this stuff, right then I knew
that I won. Because I realized I have created
a new comfort zone that I'm only comfortable
if I'm doing the things required to stay on my
goal. And then that gets pulled from me. Now
I'm uncomfortable and I need to get back to it.
I'm traveling right now. And I've been to the
I've been, you know, I maintain a membership
at Planet Fitness. It's not my favorite gym,
but there's one wherever you go. And I've been
able to hit one the last two mornings, you know,
so it keeps keeps me happy, you know, so ultimately,
you want to You will build a new comfort zone.
That is the goal, where you're only comfortable
if you're doing the things required. to move
that area of your life forward. These are the
same things that were extraordinarily uncomfortable
for you months ago when you first started. When
you get to that point where you've got that new
comfort zone built, it's going to be a great
day because you're going to realize that it's
over. It's no longer a matter of if, it's just
a matter of when at this point. You shifted from
one comfort zone to a new one. You're feeling
great, feeling awesome. now you're at this new
space. And it's great for a while. But then isn't
there something that in within the person I would
say, you know what, okay, this is great. Now
it's time to elevate to another. Yeah, most of
the time once you become once you become an achiever,
and you start winning at whatever that is, yeah,
you it is most likely you're going to keep pushing
yourself and that's just healthy. It's just good.
You can always get better. You know, when started
with losing weight. Now it's you know now it's
riding a bike and now it's it's running and now
it's running a mini marathon and now i wanna
run my first marathon you whether it's any area
of your life that's typically what's gonna happen
and it's good because i will tell you this michael
i'm sure you understand this but as a species
as a human species were not built to settle we
are built for adventure and risk. Now, not crazy
risk, you know, don't go try to play Frogger
across the freeway type of a risk, but like we're
not built to settle. We're not built to stay
in one place. We're built for the next adventure
and to push ourselves. So when you take on the
idea of I want to set a goal, I want to achieve.
Well, that's when you're going to start coming
alive, because everyone will tell you that when
you don't want to do it, the days that you don't
want to do it, but you do it anyways, are the
days that you feel the absolute best about yourself.
because that's how we're built. We're built to
push ourselves. Now in those days when you lack
the self confidence or just the willingness and
you're doubting yourself, how do you silence
those voices? I guess y 'all you could say voices.
I don't know. I don't want to make it seem crazy.
But you know, the voices in our head. Sure. I
teach a lot of mental winning a lot of the mental
aspect of it and one of them is you want to feel
the competitiveness and you knew we all have
a competitor inside of the summer a lot more
competitive than others but even if you're not
there that competitive there's a competitive
bone in you and you need to cultivate that one
of the areas to get through what you're talking
about. Is this to remind yourself of what would
most people do right now you know you can live
your whole life based on what would most people
do. And you do the opposite, you're probably
going to win. And I'm not putting people down,
but most people don't take care of themselves
physically. Most people don't push themselves
to maybe break out of the middle income mentality
and try to go maybe build a legacy by building
a business or being an entrepreneur or you know,
everybody wants to make a lot of money, but very
few people are willing to do anything about it.
Everybody wants to be in their be their fittest
in terms of their physique, but very few anything
to do. So when you have those moments where you're
like, I just don't want to do it, or I'm not
feeling up to it, or I'm wondering, or I'm actually
wondering, like, do I want to keep doing then
you just need to remind yourself, what would
most people do right now, most people would take
the easy way out, most people, when most people
don't feel like doing something, they're not
going to do it. So therefore, I'm going to do
it. And that's how I'm going to win. And that's
how I'm not going to be like most people. That's
just one little mental aspect that you can use
to fuel that and catch yourself. The key to a
lot of this is just becoming aware of the things
that you and I are talking about today. If people
just become aware of this stuff, they will catch
themselves having those moments going, oh, it's
one of those days. I'm making excuses. I don't
feel like it. I got to go do it. Yeah. That's
simple. Very simple. But a lot of people miss
it. Just the awareness of, you know, either how
they're feeling what they're thinking, or, you
know, whatever it may be, it's just the acknowledgement
of the awareness, I think, and then causing the
cells to make the shift or whatever it may be.
Yeah, you. And also cultivating, like you talk
about cultivating a positive and growth oriented,
I would say environment, but then you said mindset,
how does one begin to do that for themselves
when they're in the in the in the midst of, you
know, cultivating themselves to be in a greater
space. Um, let me I'm not sure I understand.
So how do they with like, when they're just getting
started, either when they're getting even when
they're getting started, or they're in the middle
of it, like, you know, when I would just say
it this way, when you're in an environment that
doesn't support you, and whatever it is that
you're that you're trying to manifest in your
life, it can be more difficult. But not everybody
knows how to create the environment or create
the mindset to to to make it shift their mindsets,
you know Stay focused and stay focused. Yes Well
like you just said just the awareness of understanding
why you're feeling that that you are feeling
these feelings right now that maybe you're discouraged
Maybe you'll feel like you're on an island all
by yourself and you don't have the support Maybe
you don't feel like you're getting the results
that you really expected to be getting by now
Well, obviously if that's the case then analyze
what it is that you're doing, you know, maybe
Maybe you need to alter your plan a little bit.
If you created an action plan and you've been
at it a few months and you're not getting the
results at all, well then maybe you need to change
up what you're doing, obviously. But in terms
of staying on it, just understand that not every
day is a great day. All of us have days where
we just don't feel like doing it or we just don't
feel. as confident as we normally do. We all
have days where we question things. Am I crazy
to do this? Can I even do this? Should I just
settle with where I'm at right now instead of
continuing to push myself? And I would just try
to rekindle that fire that got you started in
the first place. Whatever this goal is, why did
you want to break out of where you were? What
was it? What were you running from? Not running,
what were you leaving behind? Because that's
another thing I teach you. What is it that you're
leaving behind? In fact, like you want to lose
weight. OK, forget the lose weight. I've I've
beat that one enough. You're going to start a
business or join a business and entrepreneurial
venture. OK, we have these goals. I have a goal.
I want to be my own boss and I want to triple
my income and have a better life. I'd like my
wife to be able to stay home and provide a legacy
for my kids. OK, that's we got that. But what
is it that you're leaving behind? I can't stand
having a boss. I hate fighting traffic in the
morning. I hate that I don't have the freedom
and someone's telling me what to do. I hate that
I have to ask for time off to even go to one
of my kids baseball games. And I'm tired of trying
to live this life the best that I can and do
it within the parameters of what they're willing
to pay me. And I can't drive my income. That's
what I'm leaving behind. Remind yourself what
it is. that you're leaving behind that's caused
you to want to embark on this goal to improve
that area of your life. And if you remind yourself
of that, it might not make you feel any better,
but it's going to strengthen your resolve to
keep going. That's for sure. And most importantly,
it's going to keep you from falling back to that
original comfort zone and just being like everybody
else. You want it out of that for a reason. Yeah.
There's some grit that has to happen too, right?
Yeah. Well, you got to dig deep somewhere at
some point, somewhere along the line. and just
dig and get the grit. I don't know. There is
that moment. Look, there's a moment in every
goal that anyone ever sets. There's a moment
where people give up. A lot of them don't even
realize they give up. They just kind of stop
and it fades away. You will encounter that moment.
It's part of the growth process. You will come
to that moment where most people give up. And
that's where the grit that you're talking about.
That's where you got to say, no, no, no, no,
I will not be like most people. Most people would
stop right now. I will not. And that's how I'm
going to go. And again, a lot of it does come
down to just like you mentioned, having the awareness
and understanding. I mean, if everybody could
just naturally understand that I live my life
in a comfort zone. I now want to do this. I'm
going to have to leave that comfort zone behind.
And when I do, I'm going to face massive disruption
to my life, my lifestyle, my habits and routines.
This is what that disruption is going to probably
look like. And when I hit that disruption, most
people would stop. and go back to their comfort
zone, I won't. And this is how I'm going to do
it, because the other comfort zone that I need
to build is over there, and I'm going to get
to that. If they had this kind of awareness going
into it, it would not be only 8 % of people in
the world achieve goals. It'd be 80, right? But
they don't understand this stuff. So that's why.
they need to listen to things like, like your
podcast and stuff, because when they do understand
this, they're prepared for it. And then they'll
walk around going, well, this is just one of
those off days. I'm not worried about it. It's
okay. Everybody else has an off day and they
throw in the towel without realizing it and just
revert back to the way they used to be. You talk
about that 92 eight. Um, what's the key difference
setting between setting the goals and actually
achieving them? Is there like, uh, uh, A key
difference between the two. Yeah, there is between
the the achievers and the ones that don't achieve
their goals. Yeah, one of the most I actually
read about this one of the most significant.
There was a study that one of the most significant
factors that separates achievers versus those
that give up is what we talked about a second
ago is achievers are pretty. They're competitive.
They don't think they're better than anybody
else. But they just don't want to be like everybody
else. They want to be different. They're kind
of they become contrarians. When the crowd is
moving one way, they're naturally going to go
another. And one of their biggest fears in life
is they just don't want to be a face in the crowd
and be like everybody else. And again, they don't
think they're better than anybody else, but they
just don't want to be like everybody else. They
want, you know, I don't they kind of they have
a different take on things. They develop a different
take on things. They kind of create a different.
30 ,000 foot view on life. They sit like, they
tell us to get a to get a job and be happy. But
I don't see a lot of happy out there. And I see
people working, spending most of their hours
of their waking of their of their life working
a job that most of them don't like. And they
and they think about money all the time. And
the only people that think about money are those
that don't have enough. And most people don't
have enough. I mean, you don't have enough. It
rules your life and you spend your life chasing
it because you don't have enough. So these people
kind of like, well, that's no way to live. Why
wouldn't I be an entrepreneur? Why wouldn't I
want to go out and start a business? They kind
of fight the trends, if you will, and they're
competitive. They know that what they're doing
right now in any aspect, this goal they're pursuing,
they know most people wouldn't do it. And they
know that most people that give it a shot will
give up and won't see it through. And that drives
them, that moves them. they're going to do it
just because they don't want to be like most
people. That's the number one factor that people,
the achievers versus those that just go forward
and then give up. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah.
And obviously they develop the things we're talking,
they develop the mental strength, they develop
the discipline and the motivation. But the initial
part that makes them embark and go is that way.
And all of this, like on the other side of it,
like you don't start out that person being that
person when you begin the journey. It's like
a transformation that occurs. And then I'll just
put myself in the mix. When I started the journey
of entrepreneurship or even as an actor, I was
going through with as a wide -eyed, oh, everything
is great until you go through the lessons and
you go through the trials and tribulations and
the highs and the lows and then when I stop and
I look at myself, I'm like, man, I've grown so
much. I'm a total different person. And the person
I came into to be is much greater and stronger
and, you know, whatever attributes than the person
I started out started out as. So I would say,
I mean, or would you say that even on a journey
through achieving more, like just do it anyway,
because you because there's growth there as a
human being? 100%. You will evolve as a person.
You're going to become a better you. That's a
fact. You're going to experience things that
you haven't experienced before. You're going
to suffer setbacks that you need to suffer through.
You're going to have a lot of wins and accomplishments.
And especially as you're on track to achieving
whatever goal that is, you're going to feel good
about yourself. But yeah, you're going to develop
a wisdom. And you're not going to be the same
person. When you achieve whatever this goal is,
or you're on track to achieving it, there's going
to be a confidence that's going to develop about
you. You're going to feel better about yourself.
You're going to walk a little taller. You're
going to stick your chest out a little bit more.
You're going to feel good, your self -esteem.
your confidence, and of course, just your overall
understanding of what it is that we're doing
it, embarking on any type of a goal and sticking
to it and achieving it is one of the best adventures
that a human can do. Yeah, they really are. Because
you're gonna grow. Because you're gonna grow.
I mean, if you go back and look at Episode One,
sure, of this podcast is like, you know, I would
probably cringe at why do cringe when I do see
it. But it's like, Oh, God, you know, but I'm
able to have this kind of conversation with you
because I'm more able to be present. You know,
I have questions here, you know, available. I'm
able to be present and to have a conversation
that will translate to the people who are watching
and listening so that they can get value out
of what we're doing here. And today I sit a bit
stronger, a bit taller, a bit, you know, from
what I've experienced, you know, through this
journey. And so, you know, it's very appreciative
that I put myself in it. Absolutely. Yeah. We
talked about entrepreneurs. What is aspiring
entrepreneurs and setting goals? Like, what sets
them to like get results or lead sets their...
Let me say it this way. How do they set their
goals that would actually lead them to results?
Well, set your goals. You know your business,
whatever it is that you're trying to go achieve
here. So you need to set goals. If it's a business,
you probably need to set monthly goals. you know,
maybe even all the way down to a weekly goal
of what you what you're going to accomplish.
But you have to back those goals up with an action
plan, a doable action plan. And if you're in
a business where you have mentorship of some
way, shape or form, then you really need to tap
into that, right? You want to, you know, in my
business that I built over the years, I used
to always get up and tell my folks that I was
mentoring and training, I would say, look, you
know, I had no one teaching me, I had to learn
everything the hard way. And I look at my existence
as I had across a minefield. And I did and I
made it and I was successful and I did cross
the minefield and I got blown up a lot along
the way. But on the way to succeeding, I cleared
a path. So if you can just be coachable and let
me help you and you follow that path, you can
get where I got in half the time. So if you have
mentorship, be coachable. Being coachable is
one of the best attributes you can do. Again,
if you're an entrepreneur and you're doing it
and you have someone that can help you, then
be coachable and create that action plan and
get their help to do it. 100%, you have to check
your ego at the door and your pride because you
have to be able to be working your plan. Working
towards your goal and you have to be able at
times to stop what you're doing. Turn around,
take a real analytical view of what you're doing
and ask yourself a question. Is it working? And
if it's not, don't be afraid to admit it. Now
look for areas that you can change. You know
a lot of people don't like a lazy lazy. person's
answer to everything entrepreneurial is I just
need to do more of what I'm doing. Well, that
might not be the case. Maybe what you're doing
is not the most efficient thing or not the best
thing. So be look, create an action plan. If
you have a mentor, tap into them and their experience
and be willing to make necessary changes along
the way to stay on track and keep achieving your
goal. Yeah, we had an episode talking about mentorship
and how important that is. politics is important
too. And I'm more of a creative. when I had to
learn how to look at the analytics. And as I
look at analytics in every aspect of my business,
the podcast, all that kind of stuff, it gets
very interesting because there's some artistry
to it, to me. And I think that's, I don't know,
I like it. But I think it's, like you said, it's
really important to really measure, you know,
the success or the intention of whatever goals.
Absolutely. To be set. Yeah. Um, I want to talk
about, um, disruption factor, but, uh, there's
a couple of things I want to know. You're, you're,
you're, you're doing great in your life and your
business and everything like that. Um, why you're
pretty, pretty much retired, right? Like you,
you, you call yourself retired. Why, why are
you, why are you doing this? Well, I'm doing
this because. Well, two reasons. First and foremost.
I've seen what this can do with this program
and the system can do for people. I've helped
people achieve goals that I, it's really prevalent
in the fitness community. Like I have an online
course as a primary factor that I have. I have
an online course and I have a lot of trainers
across the country that are affiliates that encourage
their people because it helps them. You really,
really big and it's mainly big in fitness and
it mainly helps people in entrepreneurship. I
love helping people. I really genuinely do. And
this is how I built my business. You know, five,
six years when I started achieving some success
in my business early on, I just couldn't understand
why people just would not get out of their own
way. To go achieve and I just couldn't understand
and we're talking like back back before the internet
man. This is probably like 1999 2000 right around
there even earlier that I was I was buying college
psychology textbooks. I just did a deep dive.
I wanted to understand what makes people tick
what makes him think and I didn't I got good
at it and over the years when I would do say
a training class half of it would be on the products
and prospecting but the other half would be on
the stuff we're talking about today. trying to
get people to make a mental shift to get out
of their own way. And I ended up building a very
successful company and created a lot of financially
independent people. And so my first level of
retirement, if you will, was back in 2012 when
I shut down my personal office and just helped
all the folks that I had that had their own offices.
And I really wasn't doing as much. I started
teaching this to some friends that had real estate
sales teams and other teams like that. And I
kind of dabbled with it. It wasn't an official
business yet, but they knew what I did and they
heard about it. And then three years ago, this
last December, um, I, my 21, my 19 year old daughter
passed away. She had a seizure disorder when
she was 11. She started having seizures and we
thought we had it under control. She had brain
surgery, was doing great. And then came home.
December 4th of 2021 and she had had the big
one and we lost her and obviously when that happens
it's it's a massive shift in your life and one
of the things that came out of that shift. Was
I me realizing how much I love working with people
and how much I love helping people win and achieve
And that's when I decided a few months after
that to officially create disruption factor turn
this into a business Create the course become
a speaker and help and that's really so those
are the two driving forces That caused me to
do to really do this and I love it It's a lot
of fun and I love making an impact for people.
Yeah, I'm listening to you and The energy And
I will call it energy force, because there's
no force there. But it's the energy force that
you speak with and that you share with. From
what I'm experiencing, even though it's through
camera, there's heart to what you're sharing
with. And so I definitely appreciate you for
that. Can you share a story of someone that went
through disruption factor or experienced disruption
factor and, you know, they have a Amazing story
to tell or that you can tell for them. Yeah one
of my affiliates actually her name is Jennifer
and she's a personal trainer and She's a good
friend of mine and she was my first affiliate
if you will, you know when the when I created
the course And the workbook and everything that
came out of it, you know, like most personal
trainers, they have two problems. The first problem
is finding clients and the second problem is
getting them to keep their clients because their
clients are putting showing up, putting all this
work and killing themselves. And of course, they're
not seeing the results that they thought they'd
see when they thought they'd see them and they
start to fade away. So Jen took this and started
encouraging her folks to, you know, get the course
and she would kind of go through it with them,
almost ask them about it. And there she's got
a quite a few clients but there was one lady
and she was in her 60s and her name her name
was Donna is Donna and you know she she was not
in good shape she was she was in her 60s she
was heavy and she was about to give up and Jen
got her to do the course and she did and it just
it just had a profound effect she kept going
she just kind of you know she mitigated everything
she realized why she understood the awareness
that we talked about. She understood why she
was feeling the way she was feeling. She understood
that it's not that big of a deal that everyone
goes through this where you're not where you
thought you'd be when you thought you'd be there.
And recognize that all of this that she's experiencing
is disruption to her life that she wasn't prepared
for. So now she's embracing the disruption. And
I mean, now she's gone on. She's still a client
of Jen's. It's been, I think, two and a half
years. It's been two years and she's, I think
she's down like 50 pounds and she's in the best
shape of her life. And there's a lot of those
clients like that. I have a lot of business clients
too. I have a lot of people that are in different
types of businesses. Most of it requires them
to be, you know, either they're their own boss
or they're 10 99 and they it requires motivation.
You know, when you're 1090, like a real estate
agent, for example, there's no set hours, you've
got to get up and go do it and having people
struggling with that. So I've got quite a few
clients that are in that realm as well, real
estate, financial product sales, any type of
sales, actually, where they just use this to
get out there and essentially get out of their
own way and stay at it. I like that. What can
someone that came up to you like, you know, I'm
ready to disrupt my life. Um do they experience
like a setback when when they actually begin
to disrupt their life? Is it like do they hold
on to kind of the past or? Yeah. They're they're
that are being disrupted. Yeah. Well, you gotta
remember that it's called a comfort zone for
a reason. It's comfortable. You know, there's
no pressure. There's no spotlight. There's no
expectation. And when you embark on this new
goal, all of a sudden, you know, you're doing
things that are uncomfortable. You're doing things
maybe you've never done before. You're out of
that comfort zone. And humans don't like to be
uncomfortable. And so you will see a lot of them,
a lot of them, what they struggle to give up,
but they still hold on to it till the very end
is a lot of it is their routine. They don't like
their routine change. I mean, they'll, they'll
stop eating cake at nine o 'clock at night. They'll
stop eating ice cream every night, but they don't
like It's a lot harder to get them to turn off
the TV and go to a gym or get on their exercise
bike or just walk around the block a couple times.
They want to, they typically tend to hold on
to their routine. And I would say the one of
the biggest things that really gets them. is
their immediate circle of friends, the people
they hang out with, because we mentioned earlier
that we all kind of tend to hang out with people
that are just like us. And so when one of that,
when someone in that group shows up one day and
decides they're not gonna be like us anymore,
they're gonna go do this, they're gonna do this,
they're gonna... embark on this entrepreneurial
journey or whatever it is that they want to do,
you would think their friends are going to support
them, but they don't. They don't. It's the exact
opposite. Like, oh, Michael, what do you, what
do you think you're better than us? What do you,
what do you, what are you talking about? What
are you talking about, man? You're going to go
start a business or you're going to go, you know,
what, what do you, the reason they react like
that is because it's in a flicker of an instant.
There's a subconscious thought that goes through
their brain and it's if If Michael achieves what
he's talking about and succeeds and is successful,
how am I going to feel about myself knowing that
he changed his life and I didn't? I don't like
that. So I've got to do everything I can to keep
Michael from doing that. So I'm going to discourage
them. I mean, they're not Dr. Evil running their
hands together thinking about this, but on a
subconscious basis is what they do. So when you
say, Hey man, I'm, you know, I drive a forklift
for a living and Hey, I just found an opportunity.
I think I'm going to give it a shot because I
think this thing can really work. And I'd love
to quit my job and make more money. and you think
your friends are gonna say, man, that is awesome.
Whatever I can do, let me know. No, they're gonna
be like, oh, that's probably a scam and oh, you're
crazy. That stuff doesn't work. They don't need
to let their friends go, but they do need to
make a bit of a separation at that point because
they're gonna become an anchor. So between the
routine and the friend group, those are the two
of the hardest things for them to let go. And
again, I'm not saying don't be friends with them.
I'm just saying that you're going to eventually
you're taking a different path now. And if they're
not supporting you, they're going to be an anchor
and there has to be a little bit of a space between
you and them. And that's really, really tough
to do. Yeah. If you, I would say if you, if they're
sensing some hateration, you know, there's some
things that, you know, one would have to, you
know, get, tend to look at need to look at and
maybe create, like you said, that separation.
Um, one last question. uh before I ask you one
last question um I wanted to know about this
about emotional resilience in a relationship
um can people what what do you say about emotional
resilience and if you believe in it can people
strengthen that um within themselves define emotional
resilience how you define it um next emotion
resilience is um what I would relate that to
is like an emotional intelligence being able
to Again, be aware of what you're experiencing
within your emotions. If you're going through
something difficult, or if you want to lash out
at someone, there's an intelligence there that
has grown within and you don't react or be a
certain way that you would have possibly done
in the past. You'll definitely become very much
more emotionally resilient as you grow. You know,
I think as you embark on your journey, whatever
goal that is, part of you needs to take a little
bit of the emotion out of it because a lot of
the reason so many people give up or quit or
don't try at all is because they live their life
a little too much off emotions and feelings and
not enough off of logic. Okay, so logic would
be I don't like it's a feeling but logic would
be I get winded walking up a flight of stairs.
I do not like the clothes that I wear. They're
uncomfortable. I don't like being out of shape.
Logically, it would make more sense if I would
do something and alter my life and lose weight.
Logically, it doesn't make sense that I'm working
a job that I don't like. I'm not happy with the
money. I'm not happy with almost anything about
it. I've got an opportunity to go work with something
or start something and make more money. If I'm
going to, if I'm 42 years old and I'm going to
work time 65, that's 23 more years. Logically,
it would make sense to give this a shot because
if I can. Make it if in the next three to four
years i can make enough to quit that job and
double my income logically that makes sense so
it needs to start kind of logic base and you
get the motions out of it. As you get going wisdom
awareness you are gonna create you are gonna
become a different you better you more refined
you. And part of that is gonna be having an emotional
resilience where you're not gonna let things
bother you like they used to. You're not going
to react the way that you used to. And you're
just gonna, and a lot of that comes from the
confidence and self -esteem that's been built
by you on your journey of achievement. Because
you can't help but become a better you, you're
going to be more confident. You're going to be
yourself and steam is going to grow. You're not
going to take everything so personal because
you're just going to understand things. I mean,
it's kind of a deep level here, but that's exactly
what happens when you become an achiever. And
then you realize that I'm doing things that very
few people are willing to do. Not that they can't
do it. They just won't. And I'm not better than
them at all. But I'm doing things that most people
won't do. That makes me feel good. And I don't
need to respond like that. So that emotional
resilience will naturally grow. But again, having
an awareness of it is going to make it grow even
faster. You've already said it. Yeah. I love
that. Disruption. The disruption factor. First
of all, I love the name. Um, and I went to your
website and there was a saying that you had on
here. I can't find it right now. Um, but, uh,
you talk about, okay, well, you talk about transforming
into successful finisher and embrace a life defined
by results, not regrets. Can you just expound
on that and talk a little bit about, um, disruption
factor just a little bit in terms of that, that
sentence right there, that statement. Yeah, and
I mean, we've probably all seen some type of
a statement like that on social media, where,
you know, you're, there's, you're going to suffer
the pain of something, you're really going to
suffer the pain of, of discipline, or you're
going to suffer the pain of regret. Right. Um,
but yeah, you know, we live in a world where
there's where everyone is a great starter, but
there's very few finishers out there and you
want to learn to become a finisher and finish
what you started. In this case, we're talking
about setting goals and achieving them. Um, a
lot of people every day around the world, people
get excited and embark on a goal and they're
going to set the world on fire. And you come
and revisit them a few months later, they're
probably not even after it anymore. You know,
lots of, lots of starters, very few finishers.
And so you want to learn how to be a finisher.
And you want to build a life of results like
you mentioned earlier your result your revolts
the results driven man I'm the same way I'm results
driven and When you get you get ahead get you're
gonna see these results and you're gonna live
a life And you just don't want to suffer those
regrets of you know, I wish I would have stuck
to it I wish I would have kept going because
most people god bless them, but most people do
live a life of regrets You know almost everybody
knows that feeling that I talked about earlier.
You probably do too. I know I do where You've
started something, you let it go, time goes by
and you think, where would I be right now if
I just wouldn't have stopped, right? We've all
kind of probably felt that at some point. So
live becoming a result driven person who becomes
a great finisher, not just a great starter versus
someone who doesn't do those. And then they end
up looking back with regret. You just don't want
that. Yeah, yeah. There was a guy named Miles
Monroe. He had talked about I think was purpose
or something like, but he said the most of the
area where most purposes, I'm saying they're
all wrong, but it was something about people
that basically don't fulfill on what it is that
they want to fulfill on the purpose or whatever
it is that he had said, I'm pretty sure it's
purpose. But all that is a little morbid, but
it's in the cemetery. Cemetery is full of purpose.
And it's people that die without living that.
And that's what, when I read that, that's what
maybe think about, you know, people who absolutely
end up with regret that they they don't finish
with their purpose. Yeah. And so your disruption
factor really, it for me, it spoke to that. Thank
you. Yeah. How can people get in touch with you?
Well, the easiest way, honestly, is just to go
to my website, probably disruption dash factor.
There's a dash in there disruption -factor .com.
You can contact me. My social media is on there.
I do a weekly podcast that right now is just
15 minutes or less. It started off with something
just for my clients and then I was encouraged
to make it public. So that podcast is called
act achieve live. And my social media is you
know, Instagram at real shame Perry or at disruption
factor. And yeah, I'd love to hear from people.
Yes, absolutely. As we leave out of here, you're
gonna have the last word. And you know, what
story or something last words that you would
love to leave on this podcast for people, I would
tell people look, there's, there's probably something
in you, there's an area of your life that you
want to move. You probably have something, you
know, it's it's it's April. New Year's was recently.
Did you have a New Year's resolution? Did it
already come and go? There's an area of your
life that you probably want to achieve and you
want to move. There's never going to be a perfect
time to do it. You just got to go do it and I
just want to encourage you to embark on it. Stick
to it. Don't be like everybody else. Carve your
own path. There's a life out there that's waiting
for you. All it takes is the motivation, the
discipline, and the stuff that, you know, Michael
and I are talking about today. But don't wait.
Get after it right now. Make the decision and
go do it. Go do it. Shane, thank you for being
here. And as we always say, around this time,
let's make thriving our new normal. Awesome.
Thanks for having me, Michael. Loved it. Absolutely.
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