I try to kind of be the person with the lantern
saying this way, this is the lighter road. I
mean, you can take the darker road, but you know,
the path of least resistance is a little bit
easier. And I had already discovered the spiritual
path with my mom. She had really started me.
So that was the kind of the first gateway. But
then the second gateway was when he passed away,
I was already in corporate. That's the invitation.
And you start to see various signs that you've
tapped into something that might be answering
you back. which is you start to see, you know,
synchronistic things. It's still there. Like,
both sides are on the box, right, are on the
tech box. You just switch your focus by turning
the dial. The way that you have more of them
is to write them down. I have over 2 ,000 messages
in my phone right now, because I channel my messages
to myself. I used to write them and they were
like 20 and 30 pages. I had stacks of notebooks
everywhere. Hey, family. This is a Thriveware
journey. Look, life's too short to just get by.
And 2025 is the year to persist. We're here to
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way. Hey, today, today, today, we had some issues
with my technology, but you know what? That's
all. Good. And today our guest is Mari Mariana,
but we're going to call her Mari, right? Mari
Cooper. She's an internationally acclaimed intuitive
life strategist, bestselling author and third
generation intuitive. She has a BA in psychology
and MBA in marketing and over 30 years of experience
decoding the energetic communication system we're
all born with. And we'll be asking about that.
So Mari. She's here. She's going to help us with
our purpose driven and leadership. And she's
going to help us unlock our 5D frequency and
receive clear practical guidance from what we
would like to connect with. This is our higher
self. She's the author of the Aha Factor and
the upcoming book, Your 5D Toolkit. And today
she's here to help us bridge the gap between
logic, intuition, and true transformation. And
we've already been talking and I'm so happy that
you're here. feeling today? I am feeling great.
I'm really happy to be here. Thanks for having
me. I love it. Absolutely. It does feel good.
And I'm glad that even that we had such a, I
had such an issue with, with my technology, which
is fine. Okay. High vibrational stuff. Yeah,
that's, yeah, that's what you're saying. The
high vibrational stuff. And I'm really, really
excited because earlier this morning, my producer
and I, we had a meeting. And we were just talking
about everything that we're going to talk about
today. And, you know, there's so many places
that we could possibly go. So I don't know exactly
where the conversation is going to lead. I know
I have questions and everything like that, but
in your words, before we get to the depths of
it, how do you think that people will walk away
after listening to this podcast? Oh, wow. What
I, you know, I always say, I hope that I can,
I may not have all the answers, but I hope I
can shed a little light along your way. You know,
try to kind of be the person with the lantern
saying this way, this is the lighter road. I
mean, you can take the darker road, but you know,
the path, at least resistance is a little bit
easier. And when you have someone to narrate
your path, to narrate your life experience, which
is your higher self, we'll get into that. Life
gets a whole lot easier, so. Um, I hope that
when you walk away from this show, that you are
feeling inspired and like you have something
to look forward to, which is what are the things
that we talked about this morning was, you know,
transformation and what, what transformation
looks like. And I know that in your journey from
my research here, uh, you went from corporate,
uh, corporate career to your intuitive, uh, being
an intuitive strategist. What was the breaking
point or what triggered? that transformation
for yourself? The death of my fiance. That was
in my early 30s. He passed away. And you know,
we had we were supposed to be the first wedding
at Walt Disney World in Florida. That was like
that was when they started. That's how long ago
it was supposed to be the first wedding and You
know, we had all kinds of big dreams. We had
a dance company. Um, he was a choreographer and
you know, so we had a lot of big dreams and they
all kind of stopped. And I think we all have
different steps onto our path of, of the frequency
based stuff. Um, but that was the first big gateway
as far as I wanted to be able to communicate
with him. I knew I could, I was already doing
readings. I was already doing, I had already
discovered the spiritual path with my mom. She
had really started me. So that was the kind of
the first gateway, but then the second gateway.
was when he passed away, I was already in corporate.
And I still had more corporate ahead of me, but
it started to make me study different things
and ask different questions and have the courage
to make different decisions, non -traditional
decisions in a very traditional. I mean, I was
working for AT &T. I was, you know, in multicultural
marketing communications, advertising and entertainment
marketing and at the Olympics and all that stuff.
So it was hardcore. It was hardcore. Yeah, these
corporate America was hardcore. I was doing all
of my psychic stuff on the side. But they traveled
like this for a while because I was just using
one to skip through the other. You're trying
to figure out how you're going to deal with all
these people in corporate. So you have to have
your kind of alter side of yourself to survive
it. I call it corporate anesthesia. Like you
put on the mask, you go in, you eat the same
bagel, you walk the same hallways, you go to
the bathroom at the same time, you have the same
meetings, you spin around. You know, especially
in a phone company is very traditional type of,
and it was a fortune 10 company at the time.
So it was hardcore. Like it was no joke. It was
fast paced and I was in the advertising side
of it. So it was in marketing. Um, but, but yeah,
I think it's, I started this path to survive
that path. And then this path kind of overtook
it. I will say that when I left corporate and
I started consulting, cause I got a, I got a
promotion to be a vice president of a promotions
company. And then I, so I had left. I went to
the agency side and then I started, I got out
of that and I went into freelancing. So I was
a contractor and then like an executive consultant.
And eventually I was hired by an executive at
ARP who hired me under a marketing arm, but she
used me as a psychic. Yeah. And would pull me
in as an intuitive into like interviews and have
her help her with corporate politics and managing
the energy in a room and all that. So it was
a very interesting merger. And as I came out
of that Facebook started, and that's when I came
into this full time. So it was this very interesting,
you know, I was getting certifications along
the way and, you know, kind of doing my own thing.
but that merger was very interesting. It was
very organic, very, you know, constant unfolding.
Yeah. Do you feel like that, like that connection
was, I mean, you, You kind of just kind of flowed,
right, from the corporate? I mean, flowing by
crashing and burning. I mean, you know, prices
and then you ask bigger questions, right? Like
most people, you start to ask these kind of questions
because you've gotten to the end of what your
linear thinking can do for you. Okay. Right.
You know, you hit the wall and then you said,
there must be something else. And your higher
self says, yes. There is, you know? Yeah. But
if you can still throw money at it and you can
still throw distraction at it and you can still
throw relationships at it and say, oh, if I just
had a guy or a girl or whatever, I could be OK.
And then you try that and it doesn't work. Oh,
if I just have a baby, then all my life will
be, oh, if I just buy a house. Eventually, you
run out of things and you start to ask a different
set of questions. And when you ask that different
set of questions, it opens up a whole different
set of resources that you've had all along, kind
of like Dorothy and the Slippers. You know, the
slippers have been on the whole time. It's just
that you've been focused over here and not realizing
that you have this whole. It's like, I always
liken it to having a computer, right? So you
go out and one of the, you know, we all have
our ways of trophyizing our success, right? So,
you know, I do this, I'm going to get my trophy.
So my trophy was a MacBook Air, but I was going
to have it built like the, like the Apple guy
sat with me and we like custom built this thing,
right? So I was not MacBook Air, MacBook Pro.
I was like, I was graduating up from the Air.
And I, you know, as I'm a Leo, I want all of
it. Is it pretty? Is it expensive? Is it fantastical?
I have to have it. And I get all this stuff and
I'm like... Ultimately, I do email and social
media and Word, and I don't have 400 videos on
it like I thought I would, and I would rather
have a video team do it on their own computer
and then instead of doing it on mine. So you
have all that, but I have all this engine, but
I'm using like a thumbnail's worth of it, right?
And that's, we're born with a tremendous amount
of engine, but we're focused on work. We're focused
on email. This huge hard drive, a terabyte of
storage, and we're doing emails. That's how we're
managing our world until something bad happens
and that we can't fix it. Yeah, that seems like
to be an inception for a lot of change for people
when something negative happens. But before you
get there, what is the connection towards, from
that world that you're talking about, the corporate
world, to the more, I guess, spiritual world
or ... Which you would say that like the other
set of questions, like when you're asking all
these other questions that lead you linearly,
what are the other set of questions that start
to make you think about the higher world, the
higher self or the more spiritual side? Well,
I think it's actually kind of the opposite. So
our linear side kind of already has a blueprint
because our parents and society has given us
the blueprint. You're supposed to. Do this by
this time and graduate by that time. Seems like
that you were explaining before. Right. And then
so when, when that doesn't work. then there's
new questions that come like, why didn't that
relationship work? Why do I have this health
crisis? Why did someone pass away completely
out of nowhere and completely untimely way, way
before their time? Am I ever going to do something
that I love? Am I even allowed to love what I
do? Is it really all just about the pure and
work ethic? Am I going to always be marginalized
in tough situations? You know, and like, how
do I, how do I survive this? You know, those
kinds of questions, those really hard questions
that you can't that you end up saying, OK, I'm
just going to numb out because I don't have an
answer or I'm just going to go hang out with
my friends because I don't have any or I think
I need to go to Tahiti on a big vacation and
maybe I'll find an answer. Right. And so when
you start to step, though, normally, if you ask
this one question, which is, isn't there isn't
there more to life than this? Then that's the
invitation. And you start to see various signs
that you've tapped into something that might
be answering you back. which is you start to
see, you know, synchronistic things, like 444
on the clock, or over and over again, or 1111,
or you're starting to be waking up in the middle
of the night, you know, in the middle of like
four o 'clock in the morning, very consistently,
which is unusual for you, all those kinds of
things. The universe starts to talk to you, and
the language starts to wake up in your consciousness,
you know, where you can consciously start to
notice, oh, wait a second, there might be a pattern
here. And that's kind of like, come ask us the
questions, because if you don't ask the questions,
it can't go around your free will. Right. Yeah.
That's okay. That's perfect. Does that answer
your questions? It does. And it leads me into
the next thing, because I mean, I have, there's
a lizard question, especially, Yvonne, the producer,
she, she's like, ask these questions. I'll ask
them for sure. I like Yvonne. Bring Yvonne on.
Bring her on. Bring her on, right? Well, you'll
definitely get a sense to mute her. But we were
talking earlier this morning, and I was talking
about, you talked about 3D and 5D worlds, right?
And we were trying to I mean, from your book,
you explain it. But we were talking and I was
like, maybe it's like this. And she said, well,
to ask her, I was like, I'll ask her. And it's
like moments when I'm sitting here, like I can
touch the microphone, I can touch the computer,
you know, that's like, that's, you know, kind
of 3d ish, right. But there's moments in life,
and just moments, probably just seconds that
will will occur. where it's almost like the 3D
is almost virtual. And there are moments when
I'm only five, nine and a half, right? I try
to say five, 10, but it's not really five, 10.
But there's a moment, and I've had this a few
different times, where I'm standing up. And I
feel much taller, like six feet, one, two, three,
four, whatever it is, but I feel much taller.
So in your book, you talk about 3D, 5D. Is that
what 5D is kind of like, or what am I experiencing
when that happens? So you're experiencing a peek
through the veil. So we're operating in 3D and
5D at the same time. We're operating in all of
these dimensions at the same time. One of the
best ways I can, in a short description, to describe
it is, if you have an A -B switch, like an input
on your remote, on your TV, and you can switch
to inputs, right? So you can switch the input
that's going to get you to Netflix, and you can
switch to your cable box. And if you still have
cable, you can hit spectrum. And it's a completely
separate set of input. It's like an A -B switch.
So it's like over here, like if you have a podcast
set up. Over here, you're going to get mono.
You can interview one person. Over here, you
can host three mics and interview three people.
But there's a switch that switches you back and
forth. Yeah. The box is all there. It's still
there. Both sides are on the box, right? Or on
the tech box. You just switch your focus by turning
the dial. So you're literally living 3D and 5D
at the same time. It's just that you switched
your focus so that you could perceive the more
expanded version of you while you were still
conscious in your 3D. side at the same time and
so what will happen is that's kind of basically
the bottom that's kind of the description in
a roundabout way of the aha moment where your
infinite side and your 3d consciousness connect
and you get an awareness of you know both at
the same time and you go whoa That's an aha moment,
right? There's a whole anatomy to an aha moment,
but that's generally what happens. So you are
experiencing greater consciousness with your
3D consciousness at the same time, for sure.
Okay. I understand that. So in that moment, like
if anybody's who's listening or watching, in
that moment, what are we to do to either continue
to live in that moment for as long as it exists
for us, or? When we're in that moment, what do
we do in that moment as far as anything in the
practical steps of the world? So I want to explain
two things. Can I just take a couple of minutes
to explain the anatomy of an aha moment so you
understand the structure of it? Absolutely. That'll
answer 90 % of the question and then I can give
you a couple of ideas on how to get more of them.
Yes. So the first the first thing I always have
and it's in the book and the book is beyond intuition.
I think I did something wrong in my bio. I probably
didn't update when I changed the name of the
book because the book renamed itself like at
the very tail end, but. That's for later. So
the anatomy of the aha moment, I talk about in
both of my books, because this is really important
from just understanding energetic structure and
how it works. The first thing is that we have
our physical senses, but overlaid over our physical
senses, we have energetic senses. So we have
energetic sight, energetic hearing, energetic
knowing, energetic feeling. There's some other
ones, but we call those the four clairs, the
four main clairs. So clairvoyance is energetic
sight, clairaudience is energetic hearing. Clear
cognizance is energetic knowing. Clear sentience
is energetic feeling. You'll hear people in the
psychic domain say, oh, I'm a clairvoyant, or
oh, I'm a clairaudient, or I'm clairsentient,
as if it's some sort of special gift, you know.
But it's not. It's a sense. It's just like your
physical senses. It's just the energetic version
of them. So you're born with all of them. You're
not just born with hearing and not sight or not
sight and not, you know. and not taste and touch,
right? So those four clairs have, they overlay
over your physical body. They're on the minute
you're born, they're here. It's how your mother
can sense if you're crying, even though she can't
hear you. It's how you can, you know, it's part
of the instinctual package, but it's also part
of the expansion, the expansion package. It keeps
you connected to your higher self, to the greater
energetic part of you. So as far as the amount
of moment, when your higher self is going to
send you a message, it always starts with those
four clear. So you might get a feeling of deja
vu. You might all of a sudden see something peripherally
and you kind of look like what was, and then
you don't see it with your 3D eyes, but you felt
like something was there. You might hear lyrics
of a song in your ear. If you ever hear lyrics
of a song, I always tell people, slow the song
down in your head and start to listen to what
those lyrics are saying. Nine times out of 10,
there's a message in there. And if you can just
hear the melody in your head, go and Google it.
If you can just hear a couple of words, Google
the lyrics so you can read those lyrics because
there could be a message in there. You might
get a sense in your stomach, but... The first
part is your higher self is always going to deliver
your message first through one of those four
clairs or several of them at the same time. The
second thing that's attached and happens immediately
simultaneously with that energetic message being
sent is your body is a psychic antenna. Your
body literally within every cell there's space
and within that space is frequency. So even though
it feels like your physical matter, you're actually
a lot of frequency walking around at the same
time. Again, if you did the A -B switch, you'd
see that you're more space than you are matter.
That's a whole nother day's conversation. That's
a couple more shows. This is too much. But your
body has a visceral reaction to an energetic
message. So you'll get goosebumps. You'll get
a feeling of lightness. You'll get a feeling
of like. I think I'm bigger than I am. You'll
get a whoosh feeling or you'll get a sinking
feeling. You know, you get that, or you get that
little flash of heat when you're like, woof,
something pissed me off. I can't figure out whatever.
So your psychic, so your body says, male's in,
I just got a message. And that's why you're getting
goosebumps or a sense of knowing or that sinking
feeling. So step one, energetic message comes
through the foreclear. Step two, body has a reaction.
Step three is your hiring stuff goes out into
your environment and sends you signs, symbols,
and synchronicities to give you reinforcement
that that message is there or to give you some
sort of beginnings of context. Generally, it's
trying to be a catalyst so you'll ask a question
so we can then have the invitation to give you
more of a contextual message, right? So those
three things, when you have those three things
happen, that's when you say, That's really kind
of what the structure is of that aha moment.
The way that you have more of them is to write
them down. So if you keep a notebook or keep
a memo pad or even on your phone, do a quick
voice memo or keep a kind of a pinned list in
a notes app or whatever and just say, you know
what? I had an aha moment today about this. Write
it down. That's an invitation because your higher
self can only follow your free will. And your
free will is actually on the 3D side. It's not
on the 5D side. That's a whole, you know, another.
So you always have the chance to veto. Your mental
mind always had the chance to veto spirit if
it wants to. So many people are stuck. So the
way that you invite spirit for more energetic
conversations that can happen in a physical way
that you can discern is to write them down, ordering
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I have over 2 ,000 messages in my phone right
now because I channel my messages to myself.
I used to write them and they were like 20 and
30 pages, just stacks of notebooks everywhere.
And it's got to the point where it wasn't efficient.
So I started to record them. So that's what I
have my clients do now. They do a combination
of the two. That's such a smart way. And I think
that I... I have moments when I'm like in that
space of where I need to write things down or
put them on voice message. And this may happen
to people who are listening. They know that that's
probably what they should do or can do to continue
to have those moments or live those moments over
and over again and see what those moments are
meaning to them. But then we get lazy or we won't
have something that will help us remember or
record those moments. Is there a solution for
that? To get as fluent as you can in the language
and to see it as a language as opposed to a coinkydink
or coincidence or something that has to be kind
of cattle prodded out of yourself. When you study
any language, if you stay in the flashcard stage
or in the, you know, donde es el baño? You know,
like, where's the map? Where's the map? Like
the basic, the basic vocabulary. Yeah, you could
maybe get around talking Spanglish to somebody
in New York City or, you know, get to some Hispanic
country and do some charades and, you know, but
you're not going to be able to have a job there.
Or negotiate a contract for a house or get out
of a fight or know when you're in danger because
somebody's talking behind your back. You know,
you have to have a higher level of competency
in the language. So instead of seeing it as these
energetic tricks. start to realize that it's
frequency based physiology that you're born with
that you need to get to be as fluent in as you
are in your intellectual abilities and then combine
the two. And then you're really operating full
operating power. Your energetic side is actually
meant to be carrying 80 % of the load of your
life. Your physical intellectual side is meant
to be doing 20. If you don't have the skills
matching each other as far as competencies, What
happens is you start to overwork your 3D side.
You overwork your mental mind and your emotions
and your physical body. And that's why people
get sick. That's why they end up having mental
health issues. That's why they end up having
stress -related things happening, because they're
overworking something that's not supposed to
be carrying that weight. And this is why my mission
is to get people aware of this energetic language,
of this energetic physiology that you're born
with. It doesn't require some special gift for
you to be, you know, a psychic. It's not psychic
development. It's not about predictions. It's
about guidance. It's about having a narrator,
having that Batman and Robin type conversational
relationship. with the energetic side of you,
which gives you access to all the things that
are in an underground form that you need to bring
over here, which is the manifesting process,
which everybody seems to be excited about. People
are excited about that. And I just, so what I'm
hearing in that too, is that it's available to
you just by experiencing the life of being a
human being, right? But some people think that
it's woo woo. And from what you're how you're
explaining to me, these are practical things
that that are available to you because you're
a human being. And then we were talking about
where we're humans experience a spiritual I forgot
how she said it, but we're actually spirits experiencing
the human existence or something like that. I
think you probably know what I'm talking about.
Of course. Yeah. Yeah. You're not a human having
a, you're a spirit having a human experience
instead of having a spiritual experience. Exactly,
right. So that's available to us just as being
human. And so for people who are doubting, like,
the ability to have that or do that or be that
for themselves, what would you say to them? Well,
the first tenet that I always talk about, and
this is the first structure that's important
to recognize, is especially if you're born into
a family that's involved in formal religion,
right? So any of the, you know, seven or eight
formal religions, whether it's Christian or Protestant
or Jewish or Muslim or whatever, we're basically
told when we're operating on the on the 3D side
of the A -B switch that were these physical bodies
that takes precedent. And then we have to find
this spiritual thing within us, hopefully. And
then there's this thing over there called God.
And somehow or another, with the help of a middleman,
like a rabbi, a minister, and a plate for money,
we can kind of somehow get over that thing over
there and maybe save the thing that's in here.
And there's this whole convoluted thing that's
going on with manipulation. So the way that's
really operates, the way that we're really physiologically
structured is, when they talk about eternal,
all of the religions talk about eternity. There
are certain threads that are all the same, and
they all talk about eternity. And eternity is...
we don't die, we transition or whatever, but
we are these big giant balls of energy. This
is what we really are. We're these big giant
balls of energy and that doesn't die. We were
started at creation, everything that was ever
gonna exist already exists. We decide as this
big giant ball of energy operating in a non -physical
world that we wanna have a physical experience
because that's how we can ascend and expand and
experience with consciousness. So we allow a
certain portion of our energetic. We take on
the symbol of a body, so like a body car. Like
think going to Hurts in your car. And you get
in the car as the driver. Now all of you doesn't
get in the car. You have a whole navigation system
that's outside of the car telling you where to
go. So we're these big giant balls of energy.
We decide we want to have a physical incarnation
to have physical experiences to help our personal
expansion and ascension. So we take on, allow
a portion of ourselves, a small thimble size
portion. Ratio would be our. Normal energetic
self is the size of the planet Earth. This particular
body, Mari, Michael, this particular body, is
the size of a thimble in comparison to the full
part of you. So the majority of you is not in
your body. The majority of you is the navigation
system. We call that the higher self. The part
that we allow to be the driver in the body car
that animates the body is our embodied self.
And that body car drives around the third dimension,
whereas the energetic side of us operates in
the fifth dimension. and the language that swings
back and forth between the two is the energetic
communication system. So it's really important
to, if you see where your orientation is, if
you see where you're orienting from, then it's
much easier to accept that you're getting these
bigger feelings, these feelings that go beyond
3D logic, and things start to unfold and sort
out for you. with that connection. And the stronger
the connection, and the more contextual you can
be in your ability to interpret that language,
the easier it gets. And I probably didn't answer
your question. I hope you can ask it again. No,
that's perfect. Because you talked about, well,
first of all, let me address this. You said only
a portion of us, which I think a thimble of us,
are really in this body that's driving. us who
we are as human beings. But the majority of us
is really, you know, we're like, yeah. So I think
I can explain it for me is that when we walk
into a room, people can sense your energy. It's
maybe it may not be you as a person because they
may not even see you, but they can sense your
energy. So that may go before you. You know what
I'm saying? To the room. That's right. It can
go between walls. You can even I mean, it can
go a car can be passing by and somebody's really
angry and you can feel like some sort of waft
of anger. That's a again, another day's conversation
bigger than the time. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We
could talk for a while. Yeah, well, we will.
I mean, I know we'll try to keep it within an
hour, but it's fine. Um, and so, like, so you're
in your you're walking to the room, they feel
that energy. And this is this is the this is
the part that's next really connected by ourselves
that we don't necessarily connect with all the
time. Is that true? I don't think I understand
what you're saying. So I wasn't because I wasn't
going there. And so it's probably it's probably
what came out. They Our bigger, our huge ourselves,
the part that is not inside of our, our, um,
our body. Um, that's our higher self, right?
We do we go ahead. No, go ahead. Finish. Do we,
okay. Like this, why don't we always connect
with that higher self that people can necessarily
like that can feel, um, energetically when, when
we walk into a room. Well, you're always connected
to your higher self. It's on a hundred percent
of the time. It's whether you're listening in
or not. Like right now. I know my higher self
and your higher self are connected. I'm, I'm
listening with all my cells. I call it energetic
transfer, teaching, learning conversations so
that I can perceive your energy as much as I
perceive your word. Like I generally perceive
people's energy first and their words so that
I can pick up on the bigger picture of the question
that you're asking. Right. And you're trying
to transfer cause you're trying to do it in a
short period of time. We're on a show, reference
what your producer said and reference what you
read in the book. And try to get it all out.
And you're genuinely, from your heart, curious.
So you want to know, because you're the type
that's going to operationalize whatever I'm saying.
So you're trying to say, OK, do I know enough
to operationalize that? Let me ask it a little
different. And then you want to be representing
your audience. So there's a lot of things going.
Like, what would my audience want to know? Like,
you know, I'm their rep. And so when you have
all that going on, you can't do that just from
your linear mind alone. You're always perceiving,
right? You're always like, you could be talking
to your spouse, your significant other, and you're
like, you just said you want a cup of water,
but you know what you want. You want me to sweep
the kitchen. Like you just say, if I go and ask
you to get me a cup of water, you'll see that
I didn't finish sweeping the kitchen. You know
what I mean? Like, you know when somebody has,
there's words are saying one thing, but their
meaning is something else. That's your higher
selves working together. That's your energetic
side because now you're tuning into a non -verbal,
non -intellectualized set of senses that you're
operationalizing. This is on all the time and
you don't have to say, okay, I will now enter
the room as my higher self. Your higher self
is there. It's who you are. It's literally your
higher self is just. you got a little costume
on, a piece of it, but it's still, and remember,
the part that's in your body is still your higher
self. It's just doing the embodied thing, right?
And it's got under, and this is very important,
is under a different set of infrastructure. So
3D, physical infrastructure, no time, is time,
space, linearity, all the negative emotions,
blame, shame, guilt, fear, anxiety, all of that.
all of your physical senses, all of your biology,
all your physiology, and it's governed by the
mental mind, which handles your memory and your
ability to see what other people have done before.
So your points of reference, right? So that's
all the 3D side of the dashboard that you have
when you get into that body car. And that is
governed by its own set of infrastructure. So
it's under its own laws, the law of gravity,
the law of physics, you know, all that stuff,
the law of cause and effect, Newtonian physics,
that's all on the 3D side. of the infrastructure.
But on that same dashboard within the physical
body you have now and the physical body I have,
on the other side of our dashboard is on the
passenger side is your 5D dashboard. So you come
with travel size versions of all of the phantasmal
things you can do in energetic form. You come
with travel size versions of that. to use in
your physical body, in your physical incarnation.
So that would include your energetic communication
system. That would include your ability to do
alchemy and manifest, bring things over that
are stored in energetic form into physical form.
So that's the manifesting process. That also
includes your ability to do self -healing. And
that also includes your ability to choose your
reality through choosing timelines, parallel
realities, and things like that. That's governed
by your higher self. So you have your higher
self. governing the 5D side of your dashboard
and your physical, your mental mind governing
the 3D side of your dashboard. The thing, the
trick is that they're operating on two different
infrastructures. So your 5D side is operating
no time, no space, no linearity. Everything happens
in the present moment. There are no negative
emotions and everything is one. That's your higher
self side. Your 3D side is there's time, there's
space, there's linearity, there's cause and effect,
there's negative emotions. So that's where I
think a lot of the questions are stemming from
is that you're asking kind of across infrastructures
and across tools and across, you know, you're
going like this, I think I have to control this
and I think there needs to be a time and I need
to know about this so I can control. 5D perspective,
you don't, but you do need to have awareness
that you're operating on, which chassis you're
operating on with your thought process. So like
right now, I'm channeling this. I'm literally
like, I'm not just doing a Mari answer. I'm saying,
okay, what would you like Michael to know? What
would you like his audience to know? And they're
giving me a stream of consciousness like to say,
kind of like say it like this. I'm not predicting
it. It's not a psychic reading or anything. It's
just a stream of consciousness to support a greater
audience. That's why I wrote the book. And I
hate when people reference their books on shows,
but I'm just going to I'm just as an operating
manual because it's the missing manual, right?
Because it's technical. It's a physiology. This
is not a parlor trick. And when you understand
it, your life starts to make a lot more sense
and be a lot more expansive because now you can
get into things that you couldn't get into if
you were just thinking linear. Yeah, yeah, there's
two different infrastructures. And you call it
up perfectly because I had one level of where
I was, and then there's another level of where
I was trying to bring those two together. And
then somewhere in the middle, you get lost or
I got lost. And you were able to pick that up,
which is really great. And I'm not ashamed to
admit it. No, you shouldn't be. It's a hard one.
We get to be adults, we think. being a beginner
at something or finding something that we didn't
know about. See, this is how we're built in 3D.
It's like we're rewarded for decisiveness and
for answers and for making sure that we're right
and making sure that we know already. And that
shuts down frequency. Frequency, the best way
to access your frequency is to say yes. This
is where I think I know to this point and what
else is possible. Asking open -ended questions
get you answers as opposed to if you're decisive
and conclusive, then there's no room for your
higher self to come in and top your best idea.
You come up with a great idea. This is a tip
you can use and your audience can give a try.
I always try to offer certain things on these
shows so you can start to play with it a little
bit. You come up with an idea. You want to go
on a vacation. You say, okay, I'm going to find
what's on sale. You say, okay, I found all of
this. Now hire yourself top my best idea. What
else is possible? You'd be amazed at what comes
up. Upgrades, sales, private jets, whatever.
I mean, I've gotten all kinds of things on trips
where I just say, hey, what else is possible?
What's your best idea? Top it. This is my best,
show me even better. How can it get even better
today? It's just an invitation to a bigger conversation.
That's it. That's all I had to say. Yeah, that's
an invitation. about meditation, and it doesn't
take hours. And that seems like what you just
share kind of connects with that, which you don't
have to meditate for 12 hours to figure out what
next thing I need to do for my business, or what
strategy do I need to come up with in order to
get more sales. So all you have to do is just
kind of sit there and just ask? Well, I think
it's not quite an all -you -have -to -do thing,
because that's, again, a 3D kind of structuring
of like, okay, if I just do this, then I get
that cause. and then effect, right? So I think
what you want, the framework for that is there's
a four -part framework for you to get the operating
action steps. So the four -part framework is
clear, connect, communicate. Before I see who
you're talking about, right? I am now open to
perceiving from a frequency -based perspective,
right? I'm not just looking for the hardcore,
you know, 3D stuff. I'm going to connect. It's
saying, okay, I'm recognizing that there's an
energetic aspect of me and now I'm choosing to
tune into it. So I'm going to sit and this happens
from two things, silence and stillness. You get
still just for the stillness. The communication
piece can drop in at any point. after your backup
and running in your regular life. So it's the
same thing with each choice that you make, you're
choosing a parallel, you're choosing an outcome.
It's already there. So that's why they say focus
where you want to go. I think it's really important
now to have two things. One is education in the
others community, you know, a place to practice
because you need to be with people of like mind
who can give you that. That's part of the confidence
is that you're not the only one having these.