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Bill, how are you doing? I'm great, Michael.
Thank you for having me on the show. Absolutely.
I'm really excited to have you on the show because,
you know, cracking the code for anything is a
plus. And I was going through your life from
what you put out there for us to look at. And
you walked away from your life like 30 years
ago. And I want to read something that you wrote
here. And it says, prior to starting my spiritual
transformation of path, my life was literally
out of control, dysfunction completely controlled
my life. And I was making decisions based on
who I wasn't. I was literally walking through
life blindfolded. So you walked away from your
life 30 years ago. And what was the exact moment
that changed you? And what was that? dysfunction
and that blindfoldness lifestyle. Well, there's
only one word that describes it. That would be
misery, chaos, confusion, just misaligned. I
mean, you know, I'd made a lot of money. I've
owned my own business since I was 25. I've always
owned my own businesses, but I was just miserable
and it was nuts. And the worst part about it
is, and now I understand why, it just got worse
and worse and worse. Right. Uh, and it was two
days after Christmas, I was in a relationship
and what actually happened was this woman's son,
it was about nine o 'clock at night. He cracked
off to me. I don't remember what he said, but
he said something and I kind of snapped and I
grabbed him by the front of his shirt and had
him. He was like, I guess he was 12, 13. I wouldn't
hit him or anything, but I grabbed a hold of
him and this voice came in my head and it said,
hey man, you're like, this isn't right. Like
you need to change. And I let him go and I went
upstairs and sat down and it just said, you got
to go find out what's going on. And I did, I
came downstairs and I looked at her and I just
said, my exact words were, I'm so F -ing miserable.
I've got to go find out why. And I walked out
the front door. Now she thought I was blaming
her, but that was not the case at all. She was
a co -conspirator at that time. You know, anybody
that was around me was a co -conspirator. They
put up with the nonsense that was going on. And
so I walked out and became completely committed
to just completely just to find out what my misery
was. That's all I wanted to know. I didn't know
where I was going to end up. I didn't know what
was going to happen, but I knew whatever it was
would be better than what I had been experiencing.
And off I went and I wandered for like six months
before I started. You know, I did a lot of I
did a personal autopsy on myself. And what I
found out was I didn't know who I was. I wasn't
anybody. What I was was made up of all these
other things through my life that people wanted
me to be. And that's why I was so miserable.
It was impossible to keep everybody happy. You
know, including God, I was brought up Catholic.
So I'm a recovering Catholic at this time. And
like all of it was just it was. nuts. I mean,
yeah, it was nice. So in that in that space,
like you you you didn't know who you were. Yeah.
So you were just trying to please everybody at
that time? Or what was it? I was trying to survive.
You know, I mean, I look back, I was trying really
ultimately to get my father's approval, you know,
which is pretty much a standard case. But it
was just, you know, I had always rebelled against
my parents. And part of in doing the autopsy
inner work on myself, I found out that the fact
that I was rebelling against them meant that
they still had control over me. Because if they
said white, I went black, you know, so I didn't
have any, I didn't have any choice in my decision.
It was just the opposite. It was, you know, I
was like, that was pretty, uh, pretty amazing.
And yet I also found in the thing that I, the
one thing I found about three or four days into
this, that devastated me. It just devastated
me. is as I went through, I was reading a book
about co -dependence. And in the first chapter
of the book, there was a list of things, you
know, 10 things, your co -dependent if, and I
don't remember what was on the list. But I went
through and read that list and I had this realization
in that moment that I was defending my parents
even though I was angry. at them and defending.
And I didn't have the capacity to be honest that
my defensiveness just completely kept me out
of life. I was always in a defensive position.
So, you know, I had a low self -esteem and there's
right or wrong. And, you know, back in those
days, if I was talking to you, I'd be sitting
here figuring out who's who's better, who's,
you know, this is crazy judgment stuff. And when
I saw that, what defensiveness had done to me.
I'd literally just kind of lost my life. It was
so sad. I literally dropped to my knees and cried
for like three days. It was so devastating to
see that I had given my life away. Yeah. So it
was just probably like, was just a lot of compounding
things that kind of met at one moment. It's everything.
I mean, look, it's everything everybody's going
through now. It's all the things you're going
through now. You know, you're living life with
a blindfold on. You're making decisions based
on who you are. Now, you may not believe that,
but spend an hour with me and I'll show you for
sure why I say that because it's true. So I just
went to find the reason I was miserable, started
finding the reasons why, but I also found a lot
of resources immediately. And I was like, wow,
like this is crazy. So I can make these different
choices. And my life just started changing. It
was a long process to implement it all. I'm still
doing it today. I mean, nobody's perfect. Here
we are on earth to learn lessons. to have this
experience. And the truth of the matter is, you
know, after I've been involved with it for a
long time, about 15 years ago, I started working
with other business owners, CEOs, different people
and showing them how to live their life to the
fullest, like what the real truth of life is.
And it's really fascinating because once people
see that. It completely changes everything and
it happens very quickly. Then I work with them
on integrating the integration of it into their
life because it's such a drastic change. Such
a drastic change. Yeah. So you went from one
space to another space in your life. As I understand
it and as I know it, personal transformation
is continuous, right? What was that thing, that
courageous step that you took? that said, you
know what, I'm going to step into the unknown,
because I'm just well, it's the correct, you
know, I've been asked that exact question before,
and it wasn't courageous at all. It was unwillingness,
unwillingness to live the past life to live a
certain way any longer. Yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't
take much courage. You know, at that moment,
courage isn't the word. It's like, I've had it.
you know, I can't take any more of this agony.
Yeah, I think that describes a lot. I wouldn't
want to claim courage, you know, based on that.
Right. Well, I think I think the key word you
said was unwillingness, like unwilling to continue
to live a life that doesn't serve me, and then
serve my purpose and in the world. It wasn't
my intention. My intention wasn't to find out
my purpose in the world. My intention wasn't
to find out my life purpose. My intention was
just to end the misery. To find out what caused
the misery, that was it. Everything else has
come from that. Okay. And it's kind of, it's,
it's morphed into that. So now I do show people
how to live their life purpose. I give a 100
% success guarantee. Um, in 15 years, no one's
ever asked for their money back. It's like, it's
an amazing process for people to go through where
they can really claim themselves and know who
they are. And boy, that changes life in an instant.
It's amazing how it changes it. I could see that
you so did you find what was that misery for
you? Yeah, well, you know, it's I've got it pretty
well refined down now to some pretty simple statements.
I think one of the one of the most powerful attributes
that I have now is I'm able to explain really
complex things quite simply because of the awareness
and knowledge and wisdom that I have now. Yeah.
So yeah, yeah, no, I you know, I found out and
it's you know It's it's really more about what
matters most what really matters most and what
the truth is What is the truth and there isn't
much truth in life, you know, in fact, there's
only one truth in life That's what the one there's
only one thing that's true in your life. And
that's it. Everything else is made up It's all
a figment of your imagination based upon your
past experience. What's that one truth? It's
how you feel that's so everything else you say
is made up. So there are creations of what just
ideas, outside influences. Well, all of there's
so many factors that come into it. Okay. First
of all, as individuals, when we're born, okay,
I mean, here's what happens we're born, they
slap us on the ass and everything goes downhill
from there. Everybody's, oh, you can't do this.
You can't do that. No, we do this. You live this
way. You know, I don't know where you were raised.
I don't know what your social economic background
is. I don't know what the family background is.
I don't know the geographic background. I don't
know what the level of dysfunction was around
you. We're in the city. We're in the country.
There's just so many factors that come into it.
But the thing that changes it, Michael, is this
is each of us have life lessons and there are
38 different life lesson paths. that a person
can be on. And in those 38 life lesson paths,
there's billions of combinations. So let me tell
you what that means. What that means is you have
an area of your life where you have a total and
complete blind spot because of those life lessons.
You've come here to learn those things. But when
you were born, you were born with a little manila
folder under your arm. Well, here's your lessons.
Go get them. Right? Right. And because of that,
you develop perceptions as you went through life
where without knowing it, you participated, first
of all, in survival. from your family of origin,
whatever their survival techniques were at that
moment. And you're old enough, I know you're
in extreme survival, because that was the process
back in those days, it still is today. And you
have perceptions that are based on how to protect
yourself in all of in your environment you were
in, how to take care of yourself, how to find
some happiness, how to make some sense out of
it, you know, what the hell is a kid going to
do, right? You know, whether you're two years
old, four years old, 10 years old, you're just
trying to figure it out. out and yeah, I just
want to go play basketball. But we see life,
we have such a narrow perception of life, our
ignorance is astounding. It's astounding how
ignorant we are. And that's the truth. That's
how you go through life. It's like, it's almost
like being born with one leg, you learn how to
get by. And you're like, that's the way life
is for you. You make it work. And because of
these life lessons, that's what happens. So I've
never worked with anybody that has a clue about
any of this, right? They don't have a clue about
it. And when they get the information, you know,
this is like an oasis of information that allows
someone to really start changing their life.
instantly, making choices instantly because they
can see, because everybody has their own unique
experience and everybody's different. We're all
different. No two people are the same. Yet society
wants us all to act the same. Well, yeah, we
are different individuals, probably with like
experiences, but definitely different. So when
we're born - The only experience we really have
is that we're on earth breathing. Okay. Everything
else is different, which is cool. But that's
not allowed in society. They want us to conform,
right? But when we understand that we're each
unique and that you're a unique person, there's
a lot I can learn from you, regardless of where
you are on your journey. I agree. So being born,
we step into blank space, right? We step into
this blank space. But then as we grow, our view
of what life is or who we can be starts to get
smaller, would you say? Well, it's very confined
from the very beginning and it's, you know, it's
influenced by so many different factors. Okay.
You know, so that, I mean, the truth of the matter
is like I get, I have a keynote speech that I
give and the name of it is my life is out of
control and yours is too. Now that's something
that's hard for people to swallow, but it's true.
And unless you're willing to take that position,
then you're going to create much more suffering
for yourself. It's guaranteed. So what are the
biggest like misconceptions that people have
about finding who they are or their purpose?
The biggest misconceptions that people have is
everyone's focused on surviving rather than thriving.
Yeah, I agree. Okay. But the difference between
the two, you cannot thrive in physical form.
It is impossible. It's impossible. Your physical
life is about lack of clarity, hard work and
suffering. And that's it. That's all you're going
to get out of your physical life ever. Okay.
Because if I asked you to name a special time
in your life, what you're going to do, whatever
it may be, it may be a marriage, it may be a
birth of a child, maybe many different things.
But what you're going to do is go to how you
felt, not what happened, but how you felt. Now,
what does that mean? That means that we are human
beings. We aren't human doings. Okay. I agree.
Yeah. Well, if you're a human being, then who
you are is what you breathe. It's not what you
see in the mirror. What you see in the mirror
is a physical manifestation of your energy in
this moment. Your energy is who you are. And
everybody thinks they're like, oh, I'm living
my life purpose and I do this and it's my purpose.
And that's 100 % incorrect. Your life purpose
is all about who you're being. So it doesn't
matter if you're doing podcasts, if you're a
garbage man or the CEO of a company. It's the
energy in which you do it and it's the factors
that we're confronted with in our physical world
that cause us to go into reaction and we go into
reaction based upon stories we have inside us
from the past. We have stories and beliefs that
don't serve us and subconsciously we go into
knee -jerk reactions and a state of protection
because everything you do in your physical life
is about protecting you. It's all about protection.
In your non -physical life, there's no protection.
In your non -physical life, there's only expansion
and love, and that's it. Your heart cannot create
fear. It's impossible. It can feel it, but it
can't create it. So can you create the distinction
between your physical life and your? Sure, sure.
Your physical life is only about survival. It's
run by your mind and ego, which are your enemies,
plain and simple. They're only going to protect
you. They're only going to use limited five senses
to operate and they're only going to work in
the past. That's it. Your mind cannot come to
the present moment. It is not possible. It can't
come to the present moment to create fear. When
you create fear, you can only create fear in
the physical. It's from your mind and your head,
your ego protecting you. And you have to go to
the past for this thing they call the future.
But there's no such thing because your future
is just the past thrown out in front of you,
you know, because you're using your thought process
to determine the future. And the only thought
process you have is from your past. So you're
putting yourself in a severe state of limitation.
And that's what creates fear. The non -physical
is just about love. There's only two emotions
in life and that's it. Love and fear. Everything
comes from those two emotions. You name any other
emotion and they're going to come from love or
fear. So it's really understanding. And the only
truth in life is about how you feel. Even you
can't have a feeling. You can't have an emotion
without a story. It's not possible. You've got
stories inside you that don't serve you anymore.
And the only way you can tell that they don't
serve you is based on how you feel. You can't.
You can't look at them logically. We're constitutionally
incapable of being honest with ourselves. It
just isn't possible. It's just not possible.
We just don't have enough information. So would
you say people are living constantly in stories
and beliefs that they just made up and therefore
that fear of what the future may bring just keeps
them bound? How does one break out of that? Well,
you know, it's very simple and it's also very
complicated, right? The number one way is to
stop being defensive. There's nothing to defend.
Stuff happens. That's the beginning and the end
of this. Stuff happens. It's how you show up
to it, you know, and it's understanding that,
you know, the day you die, what you see in the
mirror is staying here. The you that's leaving
is your energy. So it's all an energetic equation.
One hundred percent energy. One hundred percent.
So not shoot, but. Can people begin to live a
life that is, you know, we have to be in the
physical form, but what? To embrace, embrace
the fact we're here to learn lessons because
we are. Embrace the fact that your life is out
of control. You know, there's, uh, they say you
want to make God laugh. Tell them what your plans
are. I mean, we don't have any control over our
futures. We don't know when we're going to die.
We don't know what's going on. Well, we think
we do, but the truth of the matter is we don't.
We just do the best we can. I have no control
out of like me. This may be a little bit space
right here. Anything outside of this, I don't
have control over. So, you know, whatever happens
is whatever happens is I can just move towards
the mark that I hope to see happen. But outside
of that, you know, I have no control. Right,
right. And you're using extremely limited resources,
trying to get to that mark, trying to identify
the mark, you know, what you're doing is really
living with a blindfold on. And the only thing
that'll take you to that mark where you can hit
it, you can really hit the target and exceed
it is how you feel because that will tell you
the truth. So should people live by that or is
that just a marker? Live by what? live by their
emotions and their feelings to guide them. They
are now, but their lives are out of control because
they're all in reaction. How does one get out
of their reaction? They're all in reaction to
the emotions and stories inside them. Yeah. So
people are living in the emotions and or the
stories and what happens is, you know, with your
subconscious is you see something. This book
I read one time. I'm trying to read this by Harville
Hendricks. I don't remember the name of the book,
but in there he gave an example of how a child,
a woman walked into this room with a hundred
people and saw an older woman over in the corner.
She had never met before. And she went into just
total terror and fear because when she was a
baby with one year old, one and a half years
old and mother was pregnant, mother was ready
to go to the hospital in the middle of the night.
They came and father and mother got the baby
and they took it over to the aunt's house so
the aunt could take care of the baby while the
mother went and gave birth and the child felt
abandoned and that image of the aunt was always
in the woman's subconscious and whenever she
saw it, you know, and she just freaked out. She
didn't know why. So, I mean, that's a very good
example of what happens because we have energies
running through us. Are you familiar with the
chakras? Yeah. Okay. So we have seven chakras,
and it starts with the root chakra, goes up to
the crown chakra, and each of those chakras processes
different energy, and it starts with divine compassion
at the root chakra, then it goes to divine creation.
divine order, divine healing in the heart chakra,
authentic self -expression in the throat chakra,
divine truth in the third eye, and then divine
power in the crown chakra, all these energies.
These energies are what make you who you are.
Now, you don't have a clue about them because
of your misconception of how life looks to you.
From the day you were born, it just looks this
way. This is just who Michael is. And it's just
the way you are and you see it and you try and
make improvements, but those energies are running
your life. They're controlling your life. You
are the energies are. So when someone understands
what their specific energies are, this is one
of the things I work with with my clients. I
show them exactly what their energetic DNA is.
It's a total game changer because the way they
recognize it and the way they recognize the information
I give them. is not the power of the energies,
it's the dysfunction. It's because when you're
not using them right, it comes out, you get penalized.
The energy comes out in a negative way. Like
you, like everybody else, we just reached those
points. It's like, how the heck could I do that?
I don't understand that. But then you go make
amends, you do whatever, but it's still like,
I don't know, that was weird. That's the truth.
Well, and that's what you're talking about. you
know, personal transformation. So what is that
space where people say, you know, there's something
here that I need to, I just need to change. And
how do they find that? How do they connect with
that? It's, I mean, on their own, it's very difficult,
if not impossible, right? Because there's so
many different factors that come in and influence
it. And most people aren't, you know, they aren't
willing to look at energy because it's woo woo,
you know, and it's oh, no, that's woo woo. Well,
let's wait just a second. then religions woo
-woo because they talk about energy and what's
going to happen there. It's just energy. What
you breathe isn't woo -woo, you know, it's energy.
And the other mistake that people make is the
universe runs everything. Earth isn't even a
pimple, you know. on the backside of the universe.
I mean, you can't even find it in the universe.
The universe runs everything. The rules of the
road are written by the universe. And the number
one rule of the universe is everything's vibration
and your feelings. Let me go. Okay. Feelings
are your vibration. So what vibration are you
creating? I subscribe to that belief. But then
you have some people that think that that is
not a real thing. Hey, this isn't for everybody.
Yeah, right. It's not. And when people find you,
what do they come up with? What do they show
you? Like, what do they come up with and say,
you know, my life is a mess. Well, yeah, it's
fascinating. They come to me and, you know, they
you know marriage issues business issues or or
maybe they just know there's something like they
can feel they know there's something more to
life that they just their soul is tugging at
them um you know but it's interesting but when
they come to me why they think they're coming
to me isn't why they're coming to me the reason
they're really coming to me is because number
one they don't understand what their greatest
asset or resource is in life. And I'm willing
to bet any amount of money that you don't either.
Very few, nobody knows this. Nobody, I've never
heard anybody state it correctly. My greatest
asset and resource? Yeah. I would say that's
me. No, that's your greatest problem. Oh, I am
my greatest problem. I can't be. Well, of course.
Yeah, yeah. And if you don't take that position,
then you're protecting the stories that keep
you trapped there. I see. I understand that.
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Your greatest asset is something called free
will and choice. We're the only ones in the universe
that have that. And I know without a doubt that
you've got yourself in a position where you're
not using free will and choice because of the
way you perceive your life. When you understand
free will and choice, you live in total freedom.
I do what I want, when I want, where I want,
with who I want, anytime I want. Because I'm
100 % responsible for my life. That's free will
and choice. I have complete freedom. People don't
live that way because they're stuck in survival.
I was going to say that. That we, I'm going to
just say we. All right. We don't live that way.
Because I think going back to what we talked
about before, maybe the stories that we created
for ourselves and not maybe, not maybe, maybe
I don't allow maybe probably. Okay. The stories
that we create ourselves, we live in a, I guess
it's this box. And then we think we live in a,
you know, free will, free choice, but maybe that
choice and that will is directed or what you're
focused on. is getting to death safely. Yeah.
Okay. I see a lot of people doing that and I,
I do agree with you on that. I definitely do.
I, I've been through some things myself where
like I'm, I broke myself out of that, that life
because that's a safe way of living. I'm here.
I'm born. I work. I retire and then I'm gone.
But then you're like, you're not, you're not
living. You're surviving. Just surviving. And
that's not that's not a way to live. Well, it
is a way to live, but not the greatest way. It's
a way the vast majority of people live. Yeah.
Yeah. And the other reason you asked me why people
come to me. The second reason is this. They think
they're coming to me because of their business,
because of, you know, because, oh, they just
know they need some guidance. They need whatever.
But the truth of the matter is they're coming
to me. because of how they feel about what's
happening in their life. They don't feel good
about it. So it doesn't matter if it's business
challenges, personal challenges. It doesn't matter
because they don't feel good about it. And so
I teach people how to live in happiness, how
to have control of their life and make choices.
And it's a fascinating, fascinating, exciting
way to live. Not to live constrained by those
thoughts. Pardon? Not to live constrained by
the thoughts that keep us down. Look, your mind's
your enemy. It's like that simple. It is your
enemy, right? The only thing that's in there
is old stuff that doesn't serve you anymore.
You got to use it. Oh, I got to go here. How
do I get on the app? but it's total complete
constraint. and ridiculously narrow boundaries
on your ignorance. That's why people aren't open
minded. Why aren't they open minded? They aren't
open minded because they're too busy protecting
what they believe. Yeah, I could see that day
in and day out. Yeah, exactly. And it's like,
hey, you can believe whatever you want. I don't
care. You don't have to buy into anything. I'm
saying I could care less, you know, even clients.
When clients come to work with me, I tell them
all the same thing right up front. I could care
less what your results are. I could care less
because I can't make choices for you. Right.
But I'm going to show you some things and you
have to pick and choose what you think is going
to work best for you because you know your situation.
I'll just tell you when you're not in alignment.
In fact, right now I'm just I just completed
and loading a new course and program that I'm
going to be offering called the peak potential
blueprint. And it's to teach people how to live
and their potential because most people don't
even know what potential is. OK. They don't know
what it is. Yeah, exactly. Everybody has to put
something physical on it, right? Would you agree
with me that the most powerful experience that
we can have is love? Yeah, I would agree. Describe
love to me. In a non -physical way. You can't
do it. Not in a non -physical way, no. You can't
do it, period. It isn't in the physical way.
What's in the physical is a manifestation of
love, but there's a zillion different ways that
could show up. Well, yes, I know that love is
different. uh levels there's an intellectual
interpretation of love which is at the basis
of all divorces you know because it's intellectual
and it's it's this feel good and it's the you
know satisfying our deed for procreation and
all the other things but you know it's like i
was interviewed the other day by this fellow
who was talking and he was asking about love
and he had just had a couple of twin daughters
that were a year old i said oh So let me ask
you a question. Then your daughters have taught
you the meaning of unconditional love, haven't
they? And he stopped. He went, Oh my God, you're
right. So that's unconditional love. You're bound
what you have energetically between you and your
daughters. They can't even talk. They're just
babies. He's like, you're right. It's like, it's
wild. It's so powerful. That's unconditional
love. We hold that for our family members, but
But there's just so many physical things in our
memories that have us maybe pissed off at them
or whatever, you know, but the fact of the matter
is that unconditional love exists with parents.
But we're too busy surviving to get into it.
Breaking through their survival mindset. How
does one do that? Well, you know, again, the
easiest way to do it is work with me, you know,
because I mean, really, I can take somebody,
I can take anybody there very fast. If they're
committed, they got to be committed because if
they aren't, I kick them right off the bus. Someone
has to interview with me before they can work
with me because they've got, I've got to know,
I'll just have a conversation with them and I
can tell whether or not they have the capacity
to change. Not everybody had it. Well, sure.
We've all got limited capacity. I mean, that's
physical life is just about limitation. Spiritual.
Non -physical life is just about infinity, infinite
love, infinite expansion, infinite everything
on the non -physical. So I live in the non -physical.
I don't live in the physical. Everything I do
is from the non -physical. the language I use,
you know, I won't talk about money. I talk about
abundance because you can't describe abundance
to me either. Abundance is my way of being coming
from a place of love for the benefit of all involved.
Regardless of the outcome is the way I approach
everything in life. It doesn't matter what happens.
I'm there from a place of love and it helps whatever
situation. But most importantly, it allows me
to live at a vibration and a level. that most
people can understand. Yeah, I was going to speak
to that. I think in that space, the non -physical
space, you said, I don't talk about money. I
talk about abundance. That, for me, opens you
up to much more of the capabilities of being
a human being. Yeah, yeah. What does abundance
mean? You know, one of the greatest forms of
abundance, maybe the greatest, is time. Time
abundance is awesome. Yeah, yeah. We have time
for everything. You know, the universe provides
everything we need. The only problem with the
universe is our perception of it. In that space,
too, it's life would feel different. You would
experience it. Yeah. Yeah. Just in this conversation,
like if I'm shifting my, my emotion towards the,
this, this conversation, the space, like I can
sense the difference of... Oh, well, let me give
you an example. Okay. Which one do you... You
got to pick, which one do you want to pick out
of these? Do you want to pick accountability
or responsibility? You can only pick one. Accountability
is what I would pick. Okay. Then you're a victim.
You're a loser because you're going to answer
to somebody else. Accountability means somebody
else is going to tell you whether or not it's
good or not. Accountability is about what it
looks like in the physical. It's all about energetic
responsibility. I'm completely responsible for
everything that comes into my life. I don't need
accountability. I'm responsible. If I don't do
something, I make a mistake. I'm going to say,
hey, Michael, I'm sorry. I did that. In fact,
I just was tied up on something else and missed
an appointment for a podcast last week and just
sent the guy a note. I said, man, I am so sorry.
I was 100 % wrong. Here's what happened. If you
want me to reschedule, let me know. Otherwise,
if you don't, I thoroughly understand. But it
was my bad. I apologize. I'm responsible for
everything in my life. No accountability. I could
care less what you think about it. See in that
in that realm I have to shift my thinking because
I'm thinking as a business person, you know,
you're as a business person, you're much for
what? No, no, you're in business because you're
responsible and you're going to create things.
And if, if you something goes sideways, you change,
you know, you make adjustments because you're
responsible. Accountable means you're answering
to somebody else. Most times I don't, but okay,
the word doesn't, but the word doesn't serve
you. Yeah, I can see the versus accountability.
That's a powerful change. Powerful. Here's another
one. Never make another decision. Ever. Never
make another decision. You make choices. You
make choices. Choices go with responsibility.
Decisions go with accountability. Decision, the
Latin root of that is to cut off. That's what
it means. When you make it say, just say it.
I've got to make a decision. I'm going to make
a choice. Tell me which one feels better. Just
automatically go into choice. Yeah, it's freedom.
It means you respect and trust yourself. And
when you say, well, that was my choice and I
respect you for that. But if you're accountable,
you're going to look at me for approval. You're
going to want to explain to me. I don't need
any explaining. What is is what is doesn't matter.
It's what we do from here that matters in this
space that we, that we just talked about the
versus what came comes up for me is your language,
your language. Yep. Oh, people just completely
ruin their lives with their language. You see
it every day. Yeah. Yeah. You wrote, um, I'm
not blindfolded any longer. I have cracked the
code with nearly 30 years of research, investigation,
and experimentation. I found the answers that
allow anyone to live life with passion, purpose
and prosperity. So you've developed this like
foolproof blueprint. What are, do you have like
finding the foundational steps for that blueprint?
Well, I mean, I'm covering them with you now,
you know, it's, it's taking people through a
new learning process. And once they understand
it, let me tell you something that's fascinating
about the work I do. This is really fascinating
is once people go through this and you understand
it, then you realize how much potential and expansion
is in front of you. And it's mind boggling how
much is there. And because of that, when I work
with, I mean, I can change anybody's life in
60 minutes, right? Like, like I can say right
now, without a doubt, your life has changed because
of this conversation. Do you learn something
you're never going to forget? And you're going
to use those from now on because you felt the
difference. Your head didn't verify it. You're
like, Oh, I can feel that. Right. I mean, that's
a, that's a literally boom, a change. Would you
agree to boot that? I would agree. I was actually,
I was, I was formulating my, my emotion and my
thoughts after, after, uh, we talked about, talked
about this, but yeah, I, I, I was going to give
you a nod to how through this conversation, like
you, you've been doing some work with what you
probably do with clients. Well, no, I'm just
telling the truth. Okay. And then you, then you're
going to claim what works for you. Right. Right.
Right. Right. Cause I don't know who you are.
I know everything I told you works, but because
of your background, because of who you are, some
things are going to work better than others.
Like you immediately picked up choice, right?
Like that's powerful. That's so powerful. It
takes all the stress and overwhelm all from you.
Yeah. And it grants you power. But what I was
going to say was fascinating is once people learn
this and then, you know, I take them through
this, it's a six month program. I take them through
an integration process, show them how to integrate
it in their life. literally dealing every week
with what's going on in their life. Hey, this
happened, this happened. Boy, this wasn't right.
Like I did this and you're like, no, I want to
go to height. Like you can tell based on how
you felt that it's something that needs to change.
And so I just get in and show you what's going
to work best for you in that situation. Then
after that, We go into transcension and expansion.
And then it's like Katie bar the door, you know?
So because of that, in fact, with this new program,
the peak potential blueprint that I'm introducing,
I'm going to take on five new one -on -one clients.
And the reason it's only five is because my clients
don't leave because we're in expansion. Well,
I've got five clients right now that have been
with me seven years. That's sticking around for
sure. No contracts, no nothing. See, I don't
need contracts, right? Because if we're responsible
and we're honest, then everything works cool.
It's not a problem. That's the way I run my business.
Because the expansion is just, it's wild what
you can do. What role does spirituality play
in your role of... I don't know what spirituality
is. You do not. What is it? Well, you have your
physical, you have your spiritual. You have your
non -physical. Being. So yeah, I guess spirituality
would be the non -physical being. You know, I've
heard so many different things about spirituality,
but the truth of the matter is it's the non -physical.
In Hawaii, they call it hache, your breath of
life. In the Far East, they call it chi, prana.
That's who you are, right? So spirituality is
typically associated with religion of some sort.
And I've heard different things. I don't want
to get in trouble. I've heard different things
on that. I mean, when you understand vibration
and you understand who you are, no religion can
teach me how to live better than I live now.
It's impossible. because I get to choose on it.
It's my choice, the way I live. And it's always
about for me coming from a place of love for
the benefit of all. Am I perfect? No. But my
life, the difference in my life is just astounding.
I mean, it's just amazing. The contentment that
I live with is amazing. Yeah, I would think that's
a peaceful place to be. It can be a little boring.
It's the absence of chaos, right? You know, I
mean, it's just, you know, it's, it's, yeah.
But that's, you know, the thing about it is this
is when you learn this, what happens is, see,
one of the things that's happening right now
is you can feel my energy. The world's a mirror
and everything you see in the world is you. And
so when we're in front of people. we get to present
a new mirror to them and people get to see when
they meet me the things they think they're seeing
it what they're really doing is feeling it the
things that are missing in their life you know
and then people will say just you know really
it's funny funny things oh i like your shirt
or whatever you know they can't they don't understand
its energy but when you understand this energy
then what happens is your whole family transforms
your all your business in your business and Whatever
you're doing, everything around you transforms
because of this energy, because you can't block
energy. The mind can not stop my energy. It goes
soul to soul. Your mind may not understand it.
You may try, you know, think whatever, um, but
you can't block it. And you, this is where the,
you know, real transformation comes in. because
you're in the presence of that energy. I mean,
it's just, you can feel it. Your soul feels it.
And I'm gonna ask this question, and I don't
know if it's true or if it's far left, but does
that connect with like quantum physics? Sure.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. But yes, you
know, in quantum physics, everything has a pattern.
Like, you know, all this, the seven universal
laws come into play with quantum physics. And,
but I'm not really interested in that. Okay.
What I'm interested in is just living happier.
I don't know what's going to happen when we die.
What the hell? We'll take care of it when that
happens. Right now, I'm just focused on how can
we live a more powerful life? How can I make
my day and everyone's around me stay better?
That's all I care about. That's all that really
matters, you know? And it's with that authenticity,
you know, that life really changes. The rest
of it, I mean, it's fascinating. The universe
is fascinating. But you got to remember, science
knows the Earth because they can get outside
it. but they don't know the universe because
you're trying to read the label from inside the
bottle. Being a little human on little earth,
that's less than a pimple in the universe. I
mean, yeah, I mean, they're sending these, you
know, they're sending these satellites and things
out light years, you know, they send them out
like a million light years. The speed of light
travels at 55 ,000 miles a second. Right. And
these things, you know, they've got, I don't
know the name of the different things they've
launched out there, but they've got them out
there, you know, a million light years. It's
like, it's, it's just, it's incredible. It's
absolutely incredible. And they just, they don't
know. And I get that not everybody subscribes
to this and I could care less, you know, somebody
can come and argue with me and I say, you're
wasting your breath. Cause I'm not here to convince
you. Right. Like I know you, I know how you live.
I'm hearing you. You like that? I'm happy for
you. I'm happy for you. Go for it. Go for it.
The level of contentment, you know, where you've
got a good balance of misery with whatever the
hell you're doing and so be it. But I know what
physical life can only bring us lack of clarity
and challenges. I mean, that's a fact. And that
creates suffering. The more you're attached,
the more you suffer. Suffering is not the greatest
way to be, live or experience life. You haven't
got any choice in the physical world. Oh, in
the physical world. Yeah, right. Right. That's
just part of it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So if someone,
we're supposed to talk about entrepreneurship
and all that kind of stuff, which is fine. Oh,
yeah. That's where we went. No, let's talk about
that. Everything. Look at everything everybody
does. But everything everybody does, everything
everybody does is to learn these lessons. Yeah.
Entrepreneurship, personal life, social, it's
all the same. Yeah. It's all the same. Right.
You've got life lessons to learn and The reason
you struggle in business is because you're doing
it with a blindfold on. You're just doing the
best you can. Well, what I was going to say is
that everything that we talked about, I mean,
you can apply that to business, entrepreneurship
and anything of the sort, because just by just
the framework that you create, I mean, you just
apply it to your life and it can affect it in
a positive way. Well, it completely changes how
you do business. It totally changes everything.
the language, the process, everything. Let me
give you an example. This is a true story. This
happened to me. I bought a house. I used to live
in Hawaii. I came to Las Vegas to speak and I
knew that I was going to be moving back to the
mainland. And while I was there, I bought a home
and I got the owner to finance it for me. He
was an investor. Okay. The realtors couldn't
put it together. I was like, give me the owner's
phone number. I'll call him. You know, and they
did, I called him and said, Hey, here's what's
happening. Here's the deal. Here's, I'll give
you down. And, you know, I'd like you to carry
it for me for nine months. He said, yeah, I'll
do that. I said, great. Well, I'm right here.
The realtors couldn't figure it out. And which
is, this is a true story. Well, eight months
later, I still didn't have my financing. And
I'm like, man, there's less than 30 days and
I've got to come up with $275 ,000. And I'm like,
damn. What am I going to do? I sit in there and
I went, I know what I'm going to do. So I pick
my files up and I found out I knew where his
office was because that's where I mailed my payment
every month. Drove down to his office, walk in
the front door, said hi to the secretary, told
her who I was. She said, oh, yeah, I know you.
I get your check every month. Said, yeah. I said,
I don't even remember his name. She said, oh,
he's here. I said, I need to speak to him for
a minute if I can. Oh, let me see. She called.
He said, oh, yeah. So I went over into his office.
I walked in and said, hi, how are you? He said,
listen, here's why I'm here. My payments due
the end of the month and I can't make it. And
what I want to do is just come down and face
you and make sure that you're aware of it. I'm
not here with any excuses. I've got all the reasons
in this folder. I can show you exactly what's
going on, but I can't. I'm not going to give
you the money at the end of the month. You can
do whatever you want. And I understand, you know,
you run a business and just whatever you do is
fine with me, but I just wanted to tell you that
face to face. And he just looked at me and didn't
know what to do. And he just said, well, I don't
need the money. Just keep making payments. I
said, wow, thank you. Yeah, I will. I'll keep
you informed what's going on. We didn't write
anything to the contract. We did nothing. Walked
out. That was it. That's just because of who
you were being or what do you attribute that
to? I was just honest and I was detached. But
you know, like I was honest with him. I said,
if you want to foreclose whatever you want to
do, you can do it. Whatever. I understand you've
got that right, but I just want to make sure
that you understand where I'm at and the fact
I'm not hiding and came in that way. And I'm
sure my energy made all the difference in the
world, but that's the truth. That's exactly what
happened. It was a little over a year later that
I did finance it and pay him. But we didn't,
he didn't say I'll write up an extension to the
contract and we'll do it or not. He's just like,
yeah, I don't need the money. Just keep paying
me. He's literally what happened. Probably got
the sense of who you were. And I mean, in your
history, whatever. But miracles like that happen
all the time. If I was in survival, I would have
been in there with fear of loss, some big, long
story. Here's what's going on. And, you know,
bada bee, bada bang, bada boom, you know? Yeah.
So there is a world where the miraculous does
happen. Well, miracles happen in my life all
the time, but you have to understand what a miracle
is. unexpected event with a positive outcome.
That's all it is. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I
like that. I like that. That's pretty good, man.
It's pretty good. So, you you live in the world
of miracles. Oh, just by who you're being. It's
a lot more fun than the other one. You said it.
Yeah. Yeah. That the table of consequences, believe
me, I know the main course is always crow, right?
Nobody likes crow, man. You get to eat crow.
Yeah. Nobody likes crow. Oh, man. Well, I've
been at that table. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you
know, I mean, all of us have, you know, and for
you, it looks just like I mean, you've you found
that that was the word you use. I don't forget
what uses your word to use. But you basically
found that the way out is the word that you use.
And you know, but it's my misery that has allowed
me to get into this position. And I'm so grateful
for all the misery I went through. Yeah, because
no one can sit in front of me and say anything
I don't understand. That's not possible. I've
been there. Like I'm so, so grateful for that.
I was miserable. And no longer. Yeah. How does
one take? How does one implement? We talked about
your framework. How does one implement like one
piece of your framework and have that work for
them? The most important thing anyone can do
is not be defensive. Not be defensive. Yep. There's
nothing to protect. With love, the more you give,
the more you get. That's a big lesson. and I
would assert that it may be difficult for people
to actually learn that. Well, I would agree,
but it's true. I mean, you know, you talk about
what's the most impactful thing a person can
do. The moment, you know, I've done a lot of
spiritual programs and self -growth and all that,
you know, and Vince's amazing programs. And the
thing that always amazed me is like why people,
the people I met there didn't come back to them.
And I was like, what? And I'm talking about some
crazy, wild, amazing programs I went to. And
spiritually and such, you know, energetically.
And then I found the reason. The reason is they
get to a point in their life where they're confronted
with a story that they aren't willing to let
go of. And that stops them dead in their tracks.
Yeah, that's it. Stories, they get they they
they grow roots. Yeah. And you know, as sad as
the stories, you know, even like the stories
you have inside you, they aren't even true. Right.
Cause they've been around for decades. They've
been embellished and it's, you know, you've got
a lot of misinformation that's been piled on
them. And so what you want to do today is say,
no, I'm not doing that. I'm writing a new story.
Here's a choice I'm making today. I'm decision.
I'm making this choice. I'm writing a new story
today. And that's where you come in. Yeah. You
write a new story and then things, you know,
the beauty of this and you've already recognized
this is This is about instant gratification.
Like you notice that immediately with accountability,
responsibility, decisions, and choice. It's instant.
It isn't like do pushups for 30 days and check
back. It happens instantly. There's a transformation
that takes place right then in the moment. In
the moment. Yeah. Yeah. It's called freedom and
power. Yeah. Freedom and power. That's good.
That's good. Bill, I mean, this has been an extraordinary
conversation. We're going to go ahead and wrap
up, but what would be Your last words on this
podcast to somebody who's listening or watching
the podcast. You're your own worst enemy. I mean,
you know, just look at where you're defensive.
That's going to show you. People are like, OK,
I saw it. What do I do? You do the opposite.
Hello. Yeah. You know, it's like the guy hitting
himself in the head with the hammer. What are
you doing that for? Does it feel so good when
I stop? You know, I mean, it's like, oh, my goodness.
Yeah. Do the opposite. You know, but you think
and but here's what happens is your energy. that
I talked about coming through the chakras has
you believing different things. This is what's
controlling you. Your mind isn't 100 % that energy
100 % that energy. Because once you get familiar
with it, once you're familiar with it, you see
that and you see, wow, yeah, my mind is really
against me. Like one of the there's this pseudo
spirituality, whatever the hell they call it,
but they have these terms and one of them is
mindset. Okay, mindset does not work. Hello,
everybody. Stop even using it. I won't let anybody
use that term in front of me because your mind
is dealing with the past and it's set, it's fixed.
Everything in the universe is a vibration, like
attracts like, and it's an organic expansion.
Mindset doesn't fit in that game. Mindset blocks
that. Totally. It blocks it. Well, I'm glad I
didn't use that word. I don't think it was any
of my questions. Well, it's okay. I just like
to clear it up for people. There's no right or
wrong. Everybody's right where they're supposed
to be. Obviously, you're at this evolutionary
place on your path where you're recognizing these
things. You have some innate understanding of
what real truth is, obviously. because you picked
up on things like yeah and you also picked up
on it energetically not in your mind because
I can see the energy you see the way your your
energies working with it well you commanded me
to be present as well so which is great I may
have suggested it. I wouldn't have commanded
it. Okay. You chose to you made the choice. I
didn't have anything to do. It was your see it
was your choice to step up to the mirror that
was in front of you. Yeah, like like and like.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, so yeah, your
reflection allowed me to see this other part
of myself where I was more present. That's what
happened. It was a choice that you made. I didn't
tell you you weren't being present. I didn't
tell you to be more present. I mentioned presence,
but actually, it doesn't matter to me what anybody
does. I don't care what they do. Yeah, right.
That's awesome. That's awesome. I think that
anybody that's under, you know, that learns from
you and get coached by you, the lives definitely
extraordinarily change. Quickly, yeah. And quickly.
So how does my watchers and listeners get in
touch with you? connection with you. Well, if
somebody wants to meet with me, they can go to
speaktobill .com, speaktobill .com. That'll put
them on my calendar. My website's True Life Purpose
Now. And again, I have my new program coming
out. I have a lot of videos on YouTube, which
are under the name of my new program, which is
The Potential Blueprint. But my website is True
Life Purpose Now. And at True Life Purpose Now,
there's, I don't know, it's a nine page website,
but I have there's probably and this podcast
will end up there but I've got I think I've got
60 podcasts on there that they can listen to
where I've been interviewed by people where we
talk about all kinds of things and it's you know
you just open yourself up and listen if something
resonates with you it's because it's truth to
see it isn't about ending the suffering it's
about just living more making more powerful choices
for yourself that's what it's about yeah because
suffering will always be here you know sure yeah
yeah yeah we're in the physical I'm not perfect
Right? Yeah. You know, so I encounter fear. You
know, I have low self -esteem. You'd never know
it because I park it in the corner now because
I know what it is. I don't allow it in, but anything
that's ever come into the system stays in the
system. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's good stuff.
It's a good talk for all the listeners and watchers,
you know, just make sure if this resonates with
you, which I'm sure will get in touch with Bill.
Well, you know his information and we'll have
it connected in the description of the the podcast.
But as we always say, let's make thriving our
new normal. There it is. Yeah, thriving, not
surviving. That's it. Thank you, Bill. I appreciate
you. Thank you. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Yeah.