WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.520 The early part of my life was very shaped by, 00:00:03.700 --> 00:00:06.740 I think, what a lot of people experience. And 00:00:06.740 --> 00:00:08.980 this is sort of, you know, to tie it back to 00:00:08.980 --> 00:00:13.240 what we were discussing is my story is my individual 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.539 experience of this massive awakening. And it 00:00:17.539 --> 00:00:23.010 started out as me externalizing who I was. It's 00:00:23.010 --> 00:00:26.269 the wildest thing. It's absolutely the initiation 00:00:26.269 --> 00:00:30.050 of initiations. And I'm sure as I get deeper 00:00:30.050 --> 00:00:33.229 into it, I'll be able to speak even more. I'm 00:00:33.229 --> 00:00:36.070 really just a reflection that helps. I'm this 00:00:36.070 --> 00:00:38.270 sort of sounding board and this mirror that people 00:00:38.270 --> 00:00:41.350 can then see themselves better in, I like to 00:00:41.350 --> 00:00:44.170 think. 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After 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:06.400 two combat tours as Marine Corps officer, Susanna 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.919 had a spiritual waking that changed her life. 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.860 Now she guides others through transformation 00:02:10.860 --> 00:02:13.500 as an energy priestess. As the co -founder of 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:17.460 House of Embodied Metamorphosis, she is also 00:02:17.460 --> 00:02:20.500 author of Enthio Generated, a research study 00:02:20.500 --> 00:02:23.699 on psychedelics and change, and is dedicated 00:02:23.699 --> 00:02:25.740 to fostering peace and connectedness worldwide. 00:02:26.030 --> 00:02:28.990 And we just had a kind of small conversation 00:02:28.990 --> 00:02:30.770 earlier, and I just want to say thank you for 00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:34.370 being here. How are you doing today? I am. Oh, 00:02:34.590 --> 00:02:38.430 it like the energy is fiery today. I got it like 00:02:38.430 --> 00:02:40.669 people coming at me from all the different directions. 00:02:40.669 --> 00:02:43.069 So like, there's part of me that's like, Oh, 00:02:43.129 --> 00:02:45.270 no. And then there's a part of me that like goes 00:02:45.270 --> 00:02:47.229 right back into that kind of warrior energy, 00:02:47.250 --> 00:02:51.789 you know, like, let's do this. Yeah, feeling 00:02:51.789 --> 00:02:55.280 energized. I love it. And I just wanted to And 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.300 that's why we're on here. You you are. a mom 00:02:58.300 --> 00:03:02.900 of a new baby. Yeah, I am. I co -created life 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:06.199 into this world. And that to me is like, it's 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:10.120 the wildest thing. It's absolutely the initiation 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.300 of initiations. And I'm sure as I get deeper 00:03:14.300 --> 00:03:17.520 into it, I'll be able to speak even more to it. 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:19.620 Right now, I'm just two and a half months in. 00:03:19.900 --> 00:03:24.300 But the process of bringing forth life is something 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:27.360 that really should be talked about. in a new 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.699 way, I think in our world. Yeah, and honoring 00:03:29.699 --> 00:03:33.099 mothers. It's a beautiful thing. And yeah, mothers 00:03:33.099 --> 00:03:36.099 are to be honored, like, not just one day and 00:03:36.099 --> 00:03:39.379 was it May, but yeah, all the time. Trust me. 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.319 In the beginning, in the intro, I talked about 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:47.580 your as a role as an energy priestess, what is 00:03:47.580 --> 00:03:51.539 an energy priestess? And do you like God people? 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.240 guide people to connect with their inner selves? 00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:57.379 Very much. I mean, I'm really just a reflection, 00:03:57.379 --> 00:03:59.979 right? That helps. I'm this sort of sounding 00:03:59.979 --> 00:04:02.620 board and this mirror that people can then see 00:04:02.620 --> 00:04:07.300 themselves better in, I like to think. But the 00:04:07.300 --> 00:04:11.639 frequency and the calling of priestess, the archetype 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.639 of priestess, I did a lot of research as I was 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.360 kind of coming that that word kind of came into 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.199 my reality as I was awakening and I was like, 00:04:22.540 --> 00:04:24.259 can I really call myself a priestess? I don't 00:04:24.259 --> 00:04:27.529 have like a proper lineage or I'm not part of 00:04:27.529 --> 00:04:30.670 a church, you know. Well, I mean, I am now, but 00:04:30.670 --> 00:04:34.129 we'll talk about that later. I created one for 00:04:34.129 --> 00:04:38.949 myself, but the priestess archetype is really 00:04:38.949 --> 00:04:42.230 a particular calling and I would say like encoded 00:04:42.230 --> 00:04:46.269 in our DNA that says that I am here to help people 00:04:46.269 --> 00:04:48.850 out of karmic loops. That's what priestesses 00:04:48.850 --> 00:04:53.420 do. Yeah, help people out of karmic loop so essentially 00:04:53.420 --> 00:04:56.339 a karmic loop is Depending upon your belief if 00:04:56.339 --> 00:04:58.240 you if you believe in reincarnation or if you 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.019 believe in multiple lives We believe that I believe 00:05:02.019 --> 00:05:04.519 that there are particular people that are here 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.920 to guide people out of what we see in this lifetime 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:12.439 as Like a bad habit or an addiction or something 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:16.060 that is causing you to keep coming back to this 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:20.350 same problem in your life And by working through 00:05:20.350 --> 00:05:22.430 that problem, which, you know, Carl Jung kind 00:05:22.430 --> 00:05:24.689 of calls the shadow. There's all sorts of ways 00:05:24.689 --> 00:05:27.569 to describe this, but, um, some, you know, the 00:05:27.569 --> 00:05:29.550 Catholic church can call it demons. It's all 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:32.750 sorts of different many names, right? Many names, 00:05:32.850 --> 00:05:36.350 but it's this process of hitting against this 00:05:36.350 --> 00:05:39.410 same issue that comes up over and over and over 00:05:39.410 --> 00:05:41.329 again in different ways and different flavors 00:05:41.329 --> 00:05:44.509 in your life. And you're like, how do I just 00:05:44.509 --> 00:05:47.029 get out of this? And what happens is when you. 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.680 focus directly on that, then you have you quite 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:53.540 literally have a transmutation of that energy 00:05:53.540 --> 00:05:56.600 into whatever your power is. So by working on 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.279 that problem, you then step into what I would 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.519 call Dharma, your purpose. And so that's what 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.519 priestesses are here to do. And I call myself 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.800 an energy priestess, because my particular chosen 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.279 method of working is primarily through energy 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.980 and the energy field of someone is that similar 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:19.449 to a pattern? like people live a certain pattern 00:06:19.449 --> 00:06:22.569 or just just and they keep repeating that over 00:06:22.569 --> 00:06:24.980 and over again. I mean, we all have it, right? 00:06:25.060 --> 00:06:27.759 These patterns are, you're exactly right. It 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:32.480 is like a pattern that is typically destructive 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.420 in some way. It's causing destruction in your 00:06:35.420 --> 00:06:38.680 life. It's causing relationships to fail. It 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.600 could be just being avoidant, right? Like the 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.939 avoidant tendency or the anxious attachment in 00:06:44.939 --> 00:06:48.019 a relationship. It could be a substance. It could 00:06:48.019 --> 00:06:52.540 be sex, right? We see all these different patterns 00:06:52.540 --> 00:06:55.379 that people have that keep looping on themselves 00:06:55.379 --> 00:06:58.180 and you keep finding yourself. I mean, I'm sure 00:06:58.180 --> 00:06:59.980 there are listeners out there like, hey, have 00:06:59.980 --> 00:07:02.639 you ever gotten into kind of the same relationship 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.939 multiple times over and over again with different 00:07:04.939 --> 00:07:11.139 people? Hey, that I would call a karmic loop. 00:07:11.339 --> 00:07:14.540 And it's likely in my world and in our belief 00:07:14.540 --> 00:07:17.459 system, I believe that you did that in other 00:07:17.459 --> 00:07:19.800 lifetimes as well. and you will keep working 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.579 on that and you'll keep going through that loop 00:07:21.579 --> 00:07:24.040 because I believe in the spiral of spiritual 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.259 progression which basically suggests that you 00:07:26.259 --> 00:07:29.819 start down here and everything is about is a 00:07:29.819 --> 00:07:34.139 spiral and you're you're ascending and expanding 00:07:34.139 --> 00:07:36.939 at the same time but you'll come back around 00:07:36.939 --> 00:07:39.639 and you'll loop back on something that you learned 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:43.519 before but if you don't ascend then you continue 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.779 to stay in that same loop and it's literally 00:07:45.779 --> 00:07:49.639 a merry -go -round until you break that pattern 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:52.180 and then you get to ascend and then you go to 00:07:52.180 --> 00:07:54.579 the next level of it and you end up in similar 00:07:54.579 --> 00:07:57.000 patterns but from a higher level of consciousness 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.379 so you can look back and go oh I'm not going 00:07:59.379 --> 00:08:02.379 to make that mistake anymore I'm complete with 00:08:02.379 --> 00:08:04.579 that and that's really what the priestess energy 00:08:04.579 --> 00:08:08.740 is about and you pull them out of that pattern 00:08:09.590 --> 00:08:12.110 is, I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, I was just going 00:08:12.110 --> 00:08:15.870 to say, you know, I clarify that I'm not pulling 00:08:15.870 --> 00:08:19.629 anybody out of anything. OK, OK. They are pulling 00:08:19.629 --> 00:08:23.750 themselves out that you are the one that encourages 00:08:23.750 --> 00:08:27.170 your own self to have that expansion. But I am 00:08:27.170 --> 00:08:30.009 the one that holds the space for it and helps 00:08:30.009 --> 00:08:32.769 to create the safety within which you can do 00:08:32.769 --> 00:08:37.110 it. Has is there I'm looking at. the world. I 00:08:37.110 --> 00:08:39.190 know I'm about to go big. I know it's kind of 00:08:39.190 --> 00:08:44.049 crazy, right? Go big. So I'm in. Let's dive in. 00:08:44.110 --> 00:08:47.809 Yeah. Do you think that? Let's see. How do I 00:08:47.809 --> 00:08:50.909 say this? Like, time and time again, century 00:08:50.909 --> 00:08:54.970 over century that, like, we come back and we 00:08:54.970 --> 00:09:01.610 repeat cycles. And do we as a collective ascend 00:09:01.610 --> 00:09:04.690 if we do learn, you know, how to get out of those? 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.600 Those patterns. I love this question. I'm so 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:12.200 glad you're asking it. We are on the same page. 00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:17.179 Yeah. The answer is yes. And let's see, like, 00:09:17.379 --> 00:09:20.019 how weird do I get on the answer to this question? 00:09:20.699 --> 00:09:24.159 The one thing that I believe to be true is that 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.580 we right now are going through a collective ascension 00:09:27.580 --> 00:09:30.360 process, a collective awakening, if you will. 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.740 A lot of people are feeling it in many different 00:09:32.740 --> 00:09:36.220 forms. And what I call it, some people call it 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:38.500 the Ascension Project. That's like a, that's 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:41.120 a whole name for it. I call it a galactic shift. 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.320 And these are known to happen every few hundred 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:48.080 million years on every planet. It's actually 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.019 like a sort of common occurrence. If every 100 00:09:52.019 --> 00:09:55.460 million years was it's about 150 million. And 00:09:55.460 --> 00:09:58.480 basically, there's a moment in which the planet 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.360 gets closer to what I would call like our central 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.480 godhead. And the whole energy of everything starts 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.440 to vibrate faster. And you quite literally ascend 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.700 in your in your frequency. But the felt experience 00:10:12.700 --> 00:10:20.389 of that as a human is lot To raise your energy 00:10:20.389 --> 00:10:23.889 But a there is free will in it so you get to 00:10:23.889 --> 00:10:26.610 choose whether you do it or not You don't have 00:10:26.610 --> 00:10:29.049 to just because we're kind of like when you get 00:10:29.049 --> 00:10:31.690 closer to the Sun You can choose whether you 00:10:31.690 --> 00:10:33.889 want to stay closer to the Sun Or you can go 00:10:33.889 --> 00:10:36.350 inside and cover yourself up, right? And not 00:10:36.350 --> 00:10:38.309 get a sunburn. But some people are like, okay, 00:10:38.330 --> 00:10:40.490 I can stay outside for longer. I can take the 00:10:40.490 --> 00:10:43.870 heat. And in this particular moment, we're experiencing 00:10:43.870 --> 00:10:48.090 a galactic shift that is raising the total, like 00:10:48.090 --> 00:10:50.870 the average vibration of the entire planet. And 00:10:50.870 --> 00:10:53.149 as a collective, we are going through that ascension 00:10:53.149 --> 00:10:55.529 process, which involves our own free will, our 00:10:55.529 --> 00:10:58.669 own choice. And then it also involves some people 00:10:58.669 --> 00:11:02.169 opting out and just saying, I'm, I, you know, 00:11:02.169 --> 00:11:04.399 I'm not ready. for that yet and there are ways 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.460 that then you know their souls you know kind 00:11:06.460 --> 00:11:08.899 of leave earth essentially and they don't and 00:11:08.899 --> 00:11:11.740 they don't make it through that process but we 00:11:11.740 --> 00:11:14.820 i do personally believe that we're going through 00:11:14.820 --> 00:11:16.960 that right now is that like a spiritual awakening 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.590 is it does it vary from person to person The 00:11:20.590 --> 00:11:22.529 felt experience of it. So like, let's say we're 00:11:22.529 --> 00:11:25.210 talking on the, you know, the macro level of 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:28.990 Earth, right? The vibration of Earth is at a 00:11:28.990 --> 00:11:31.769 particular frequency. And then in, let's say, 00:11:31.769 --> 00:11:35.330 100 years, it's 10 points higher, right? Kind 00:11:35.330 --> 00:11:38.169 of like the temperature, right? That's a huge 00:11:38.169 --> 00:11:41.429 shift. That's a huge shift. And even if it's 00:11:41.429 --> 00:11:46.389 just a small, you know, small number of frequency 00:11:46.389 --> 00:11:49.750 change, For each individual person, that's a 00:11:49.750 --> 00:11:53.669 massive change in our environment. So every single 00:11:53.669 --> 00:11:56.690 person is going to have their own individual 00:11:56.690 --> 00:12:00.049 experience of what that feels like. There's going 00:12:00.049 --> 00:12:03.570 to be similar sort of what we would call like 00:12:03.570 --> 00:12:06.690 symptoms, right? So like a sentence symptoms. 00:12:07.070 --> 00:12:10.460 I find that a lot of people get headaches during 00:12:10.460 --> 00:12:13.000 the process. Usually you're going to go through 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.840 some kind of spiritual awakening journey that 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:20.120 has some similarities with your fellow humans. 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.919 But the meaning in your own individual life is 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.460 going to be directed at you. So it'll be in your 00:12:28.460 --> 00:12:31.080 own relationships and the things that you personally 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:34.179 are working on. And as we know, human beings 00:12:34.179 --> 00:12:39.220 are a wide and varied species. So people everywhere 00:12:39.220 --> 00:12:42.379 are going to have their own stories of what these 00:12:42.379 --> 00:12:45.399 symptoms bring about. But ultimately, it's the 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.379 same thing that's happening to everyone, but 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:51.480 the stories are playing out in a unique way for 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:56.279 every person. Okay. I'm listening and I'm trying 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.039 to figure what kind of questions I can ask because 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:06.820 it's so, man, it's a lot with so much. Totally. 00:13:08.190 --> 00:13:13.610 I know we dove so deep so fast, which I love 00:13:13.610 --> 00:13:16.990 this and also Take us back to wherever you want 00:13:16.990 --> 00:13:19.649 to go because I will be there and I am actually 00:13:19.649 --> 00:13:21.669 going to plug my computer And so just give me 00:13:21.669 --> 00:13:27.029 one second here. Okay the problem All right back 00:13:27.029 --> 00:13:30.549 at we're back on it. All right, cool. Let's go 00:13:30.549 --> 00:13:34.230 back like what started your your spiritual journey. 00:13:34.250 --> 00:13:38.000 I know you I saw you You had two, you served 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:44.399 two combat tours, right? In Afghanistan. What 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.000 moments led you up to where you are? What reshaped 00:13:48.000 --> 00:14:01.940 your life? Oh, man. Yeah. Let's see. The early 00:14:01.940 --> 00:14:05.740 part of my life was very shaped by, I think, 00:14:05.870 --> 00:14:08.610 what a lot of people experience and and this 00:14:08.610 --> 00:14:10.730 is sort of you know to tie it back to what we 00:14:10.730 --> 00:14:15.330 were discussing is my story is my individual 00:14:15.330 --> 00:14:20.269 experience of this massive awakening and it started 00:14:20.269 --> 00:14:26.190 out as me externalizing who I was that's really 00:14:26.190 --> 00:14:29.110 like that that would be the headline for it I 00:14:29.110 --> 00:14:32.549 was looking to others for validation of who I 00:14:32.549 --> 00:14:38.909 am and I was looking to others for the roadmap 00:14:38.909 --> 00:14:42.250 as well. How do I understand who I am? How do 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:44.330 I understand my purpose when I'm here to do? 00:14:45.190 --> 00:14:48.549 And that started with mostly my father. My father 00:14:48.549 --> 00:14:51.309 was a very big influence in my life and I grew 00:14:51.309 --> 00:14:54.529 up on an organic blueberry farm in Georgia and 00:14:54.529 --> 00:14:56.850 both my parents are attorneys. Like why do attorneys 00:14:56.850 --> 00:15:00.620 have a farm? I don't know. Interesting. They're 00:15:00.620 --> 00:15:05.779 just busy people. And, um, my father recommended 00:15:05.779 --> 00:15:08.460 and encouraged me to go into the military because 00:15:08.460 --> 00:15:11.980 he was in the Marine Corps as an attorney in, 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.679 during Vietnam and it changed his life and it 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:18.580 made, you know, his world and his experience 00:15:18.580 --> 00:15:22.320 in the world better. And so he felt that I should 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.820 do the same and had encouraged me throughout 00:15:24.820 --> 00:15:27.539 the years to do that. So I then went to the Naval 00:15:27.539 --> 00:15:30.500 Academy. and became an officer in the Marine 00:15:30.500 --> 00:15:32.639 Corps. A lot of people don't know that the Naval 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:34.840 Academy serves both the Navy and the Marine Corps 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.059 because the Marine Corps is in the Department 00:15:37.059 --> 00:15:39.519 of the Navy. Fun fact. Yeah, I didn't know that. 00:15:40.100 --> 00:15:43.919 And I had family in the Navy. Most people don't 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.379 know, and I don't think I even knew until I got 00:15:47.379 --> 00:15:49.340 there. I was like, why are you guys together? 00:15:50.220 --> 00:15:55.580 But ultimately, that then led me into combat. 00:15:55.879 --> 00:16:00.399 And I was there. in Afghanistan serving and I 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.960 ended up serving two tours in my short time in 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.179 and because they really wanted to get their money's 00:16:07.179 --> 00:16:10.960 worth out of me. That's what happened, right? 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:17.700 I was like, I did serve. The process of that 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:20.940 then led me to realize that what I thought the 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:23.299 way he had described the military and the way 00:16:23.299 --> 00:16:26.500 had other people had and the way Hollywood had 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.899 It's very different from the reality and it was 00:16:30.899 --> 00:16:34.000 sort of this reality check and I started and 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.419 basically all of my The reality that I had built 00:16:37.419 --> 00:16:40.279 up in my mind started to crumble and be like, 00:16:40.820 --> 00:16:45.200 oh This is not real or this is not the actual 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.259 circumstance So that's when I began to really 00:16:48.259 --> 00:16:51.940 go through like a an awakening process was the 00:16:51.940 --> 00:16:56.570 disillusionment Yeah, well he was a lawyer So 00:16:56.570 --> 00:16:59.629 did he necessarily see combat like you did or? 00:17:00.210 --> 00:17:02.509 Yeah, the world is a great question and that 00:17:02.509 --> 00:17:06.670 is exactly one of the reasons why his reality 00:17:06.670 --> 00:17:10.069 was very different from mine because I went into 00:17:10.069 --> 00:17:13.869 combat while he was You know, he was working 00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:16.509 in courtrooms. So he was essentially like an 00:17:16.509 --> 00:17:19.089 attorney but just in the military the military 00:17:19.089 --> 00:17:22.190 doing what he loved, you know, yeah Yeah, which 00:17:22.190 --> 00:17:25.119 is great, which is great. Absolutely So I can 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.240 see that the Marine Corps, it influenced your 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.500 perspective on what you talk about now, which 00:17:30.500 --> 00:17:33.059 is consciousness, healing, and transformation. 00:17:33.859 --> 00:17:37.640 Yeah. Yeah. I think that in the military and 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:39.960 in the Marine Corps, especially, we call ourselves 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.460 the tip of the spear. Okay. The Marines, especially, 00:17:43.619 --> 00:17:46.059 are usually the first in, usually the first in 00:17:46.059 --> 00:17:48.480 and the first out. That's changed a little bit 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.900 with the irregular warfare of Afghanistan, but 00:17:51.900 --> 00:17:55.359 we tend to be the risk takers. and the ones who 00:17:55.359 --> 00:18:01.000 are just crazy enough to be the frontline. And 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.980 I would say that as I got out and I had this 00:18:04.980 --> 00:18:08.460 experience of, oh my gosh, like, does God exist? 00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:12.440 What, like, what, what was that? What was war? 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.859 What was that about? War doesn't actually work 00:18:15.859 --> 00:18:18.240 the way I think, you know, all of these conclusions 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:23.619 that were completely sort of different and opposite 00:18:23.619 --> 00:18:27.059 from what I had at least made to be real in my 00:18:27.059 --> 00:18:31.299 head before I joined. It led me on a journey 00:18:31.299 --> 00:18:35.299 of exploration and I began to kind of go into 00:18:35.299 --> 00:18:39.640 the frontier of psychedelics and some of these 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.539 other alternative techniques for healing. And 00:18:42.539 --> 00:18:44.740 I don't even think I really understood that I 00:18:44.740 --> 00:18:48.089 was healing myself at the beginning. I just knew 00:18:48.089 --> 00:18:51.049 that there was something to be explored and it 00:18:51.049 --> 00:18:53.250 felt interesting. And also there were a lot of 00:18:53.250 --> 00:18:56.650 people around me that were hurting, especially 00:18:56.650 --> 00:18:59.670 my sister who had gone through a very deep process 00:18:59.670 --> 00:19:02.150 of being diagnosed with borderline. And I was 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:04.430 just watching it happen everywhere. And of course 00:19:04.430 --> 00:19:07.269 in the military as well, significant amounts 00:19:07.269 --> 00:19:11.390 of trauma in the military. And that led me on 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:14.430 this journey of like, well, What's out there? 00:19:14.630 --> 00:19:16.710 Like what else could we do? And when I started 00:19:16.710 --> 00:19:18.789 to engage with psychedelics because I'd moved 00:19:18.789 --> 00:19:22.450 to the Bay Area and San Francisco is more friendly 00:19:22.450 --> 00:19:26.509 with that kind of thing. It was more common there, 00:19:26.509 --> 00:19:30.630 right? I got a very clear message from the plants 00:19:30.630 --> 00:19:33.609 when I first started working with them that these 00:19:33.609 --> 00:19:37.910 are not just recreational. These are this work 00:19:37.910 --> 00:19:41.730 and these kinds of... consciousness, expanding 00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:48.710 tools and beings are, are here for, for healing 00:19:48.710 --> 00:19:51.630 and for growth. And so that's what kind of led 00:19:51.630 --> 00:19:54.029 me away from just, you know, there's a lot of 00:19:54.029 --> 00:19:56.450 people who will work recreationally with, with 00:19:56.450 --> 00:20:00.609 different plants, but I very quickly, they were, 00:20:00.690 --> 00:20:04.490 they were kind of directing me to, um, to work, 00:20:04.670 --> 00:20:08.130 to really work with them. Yeah. So coming out 00:20:08.130 --> 00:20:13.299 of. the Marines, there was some stuff, psychological 00:20:13.299 --> 00:20:17.059 that you had to deal with. And you started dealing 00:20:17.059 --> 00:20:22.279 with psychedelics. The question I have is, what 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.160 is the significance of using like, was it silo? 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.500 I think I had some research. Silo -cybin? Yeah. 00:20:29.380 --> 00:20:32.420 Yeah. Like, what's the significance of using 00:20:32.420 --> 00:20:34.700 the silo -cybin? Because I know, first of all, 00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:39.009 I know that it's becoming more known. um in medicine 00:20:39.009 --> 00:20:43.710 um and people are using it in some areas and 00:20:43.710 --> 00:20:49.609 it does it has its healing factors yeah so it 00:20:49.609 --> 00:20:52.630 let's see this is this is a big question because 00:20:52.630 --> 00:20:57.130 i just i love the mushrooms so dearly they are 00:20:57.130 --> 00:21:01.140 they are really a species of Within themselves 00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:05.180 right fungi itself is a healing species even 00:21:05.180 --> 00:21:08.039 not not the psychoactive ones, right? We know 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.519 turkey tail reishi chaga all of these mushrooms 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.400 across the board are incredibly healing plant 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.119 fungi, they're not actually and One thing that 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.559 I do clarify is that I try to not use the word 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.119 use Although a lot of people do and and and I 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:29.690 understand why because to me these are these 00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:33.410 are actual beings that I'm partnering with that 00:21:33.410 --> 00:21:35.910 I'm connecting with. I just happen to eat them. 00:21:36.289 --> 00:21:39.509 Okay, that's how we work together, right is them 00:21:39.509 --> 00:21:43.210 being ingested in my body. But I don't feel like 00:21:43.210 --> 00:21:46.650 I use them because they are actually I mean, 00:21:46.990 --> 00:21:48.990 if maybe even more accurate as they're using 00:21:48.990 --> 00:21:57.259 me as a tool for their expansion, but they There's 00:21:57.259 --> 00:22:00.720 a partnership of these medicines and psilocybin 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.660 in particular, which is the active ingredient 00:22:03.660 --> 00:22:07.859 in what we know to be hallucinogenic mushrooms 00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:10.859 is and it's the quote active ingredient. But 00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:14.039 I do find that, you know, really the entire mushroom 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.740 itself, it's not just the psilocybin that is 00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:20.799 active. The whole thing is I found that they 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:25.019 started to open my mind in such a way that my 00:22:25.019 --> 00:22:28.700 ego and all when when I said I externalized my 00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:33.779 value and I externalized my self, right? They 00:22:33.779 --> 00:22:37.299 started to remind me of how I could enter, like 00:22:37.299 --> 00:22:40.759 start from within. Okay. And to open my mind 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:45.440 to creating a connection with God, source, divine, 00:22:45.700 --> 00:22:48.079 universe, whatever you want to call it, and get 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:51.259 direct connection with that, with that thing. 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.500 that was also connected to me. And all of that 00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:59.859 allowed me to quiet, and neurologically, they 00:22:59.859 --> 00:23:01.720 quiet the default mode network of the brain. 00:23:01.900 --> 00:23:03.839 That's what they do. And the default mode network 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.920 of the brain, speaking of those patterns we were 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.539 talking about before, is you get in your car. 00:23:08.809 --> 00:23:12.069 You take your left hand, you put your seatbelt 00:23:12.069 --> 00:23:14.269 across, you plug it in, you put your hands on 00:23:14.269 --> 00:23:16.130 the wheel, you put your foot on the gas, right? 00:23:16.490 --> 00:23:19.609 You know exactly, it's total muscle memory. And 00:23:19.609 --> 00:23:21.869 you're actually a bit like a zombie when you're 00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.829 doing it. You don't have to even be conscious, 00:23:25.430 --> 00:23:28.170 right? As we know from people who drink and then 00:23:28.170 --> 00:23:30.849 drive, like you can actually do it. You can actually 00:23:30.849 --> 00:23:33.730 do it, yeah. Your body can do it because you 00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:35.730 don't have to be conscious for a lot of things. 00:23:35.809 --> 00:23:38.339 And a lot of people move through life Entirely 00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:42.660 like that right totally unconscious and that's 00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:44.779 because the default mode network of the brain 00:23:44.779 --> 00:23:48.920 is running the show And it's creating these patterns 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.819 that keep you safe and keep you in your rhythms 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:56.680 and your routines And that allows you to then 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.059 go through life safely, but it doesn't allow 00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:04.460 you to go through life creatively And that's 00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:07.829 what the medicine does it helps to activate other 00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:10.430 parts of the brain and quiet that pattern -based 00:24:10.430 --> 00:24:12.829 part of the brain so that you start to realize 00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:16.049 that you're in a pattern and to see what other 00:24:16.049 --> 00:24:18.670 kinds of patterns you want to develop. It's almost 00:24:18.670 --> 00:24:26.529 like a wake -up call to the humdrum of what we've 00:24:26.529 --> 00:24:30.289 created our lives to be. And what is the pushback 00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:35.630 on that? Or have you experienced that? And do 00:24:35.630 --> 00:24:37.809 you mean the pushback like kind of from society 00:24:37.809 --> 00:24:40.109 at large or the collective? Yeah, as a collective. 00:24:40.509 --> 00:24:45.269 Yeah. Mm -hmm. Well, I mean the amount of bad 00:24:45.269 --> 00:24:52.609 marketing Right the propaganda machine that went 00:24:52.609 --> 00:24:56.390 after psychedelics, especially in the 1960s and 00:24:56.390 --> 00:25:01.009 70s because they were so Widely used and they 00:25:01.009 --> 00:25:03.690 there was this boom of them, right and they started 00:25:03.690 --> 00:25:05.670 to come into the United States and then everybody 00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:09.670 was like Let's try it and then and then Timothy 00:25:09.670 --> 00:25:12.630 Leary who I loved dearly, you know, he was leader 00:25:12.630 --> 00:25:17.569 but he said tune in turn on drop out and he encouraged 00:25:17.569 --> 00:25:21.130 everybody to get out of corporate world out of 00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:24.950 the military, you know get out of the Vietnam 00:25:24.950 --> 00:25:28.670 War and so all of these medicines became a threat 00:25:29.639 --> 00:25:33.579 to almost like to national security because they 00:25:33.579 --> 00:25:37.799 were encouraging people to drop out of the system. 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:43.920 And that remains, some of that energy has remained, 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:45.680 which is why a lot of the research that you're 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:50.420 seeing now today is on psilocybin, not LSD. Because 00:25:50.420 --> 00:25:53.799 LSD was what they first studied a lot, but a 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.000 lot of the research studies were not. well done 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.960 and they were certainly not double -blind studies. 00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:05.559 They were kind of loose in their use of these 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:10.880 things and they didn't have as many of the structures 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.000 that we have today to ensure that the kind of 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.059 studying that we're doing is as clear and, quote, 00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:21.420 objective as possible. The next question I have 00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:27.809 is, is it safe? And how safe is it? For those 00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:34.029 who have been to Burning Man, one of the, what 00:26:34.029 --> 00:26:36.809 is it? One of the like mantras there is safety 00:26:36.809 --> 00:26:42.390 third, which I always thought was great. I was 00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:44.829 like, this is awesome. What if we all lived life 00:26:44.829 --> 00:26:50.329 with safety third? Yeah. So it's a great question. 00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:55.690 The short answer is yes. these medicines all 00:26:55.690 --> 00:26:59.269 across the board are generally safe and also 00:26:59.269 --> 00:27:02.490 it is your work as someone who may be interested 00:27:02.490 --> 00:27:06.950 or is engaging in them in to ensure that the 00:27:06.950 --> 00:27:10.910 setting and the experience is safe for you because 00:27:10.910 --> 00:27:14.089 as with anything it can be abused and it can 00:27:14.089 --> 00:27:17.130 be overused and it can be overdosed. especially 00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:20.549 in the wrong setting. So what we, in order to 00:27:20.549 --> 00:27:23.490 create a safe environment. What's up Thrivo Journey 00:27:23.490 --> 00:27:26.529 listeners and watchers. 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All right, one more 00:28:41.859 --> 00:28:46.559 time, www .theoreansgroup .com. All right, we're 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.059 done with the spot. Let's get back to the podcast. 00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:52.220 We talk about three things, set, setting, and 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:56.059 dosage. Set is mindset. So when you step into 00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:58.539 any kind of altered state of consciousness, remind 00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:01.039 yourself, you're going out of your default mode 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.279 network, which means you're going out of the 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.000 safe place in your brain. You're going to the 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.779 unsafe places. So you want to have an intention 00:29:11.779 --> 00:29:15.359 and a purpose for your session and ideally a 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.380 guide that is there to bring you back to your 00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:20.680 purpose, especially when you go to some of those 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.539 quote unsafe places, those dark shadowy places 00:29:23.539 --> 00:29:26.480 in the brain and in the body that are creating 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.880 some of your feelings of unsafety in life in 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.519 general. So mindset is first. Setting is the 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.359 environment and you want the environment to be 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.809 a place that is safe. and you feel safe so it 00:29:40.809 --> 00:29:43.190 could be your home sometimes sometimes homes 00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:47.210 have a lot in them so you might want a different 00:29:47.210 --> 00:29:50.890 place that has fewer emotions attached to it 00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:54.509 but I find that anything that is nestled in nature 00:29:54.509 --> 00:29:58.990 is a really powerful and safe place to be often 00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:03.829 closer to humanity and urban areas tends to feel 00:30:03.829 --> 00:30:08.089 a little more unsafe because nature is generally 00:30:08.089 --> 00:30:10.589 safe, although of course we know disasters and 00:30:10.589 --> 00:30:13.890 things do happen. And then the third thing is 00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:16.609 an environment I would say guide, if you have 00:30:16.609 --> 00:30:19.789 a guide with you is contributing to the setting. 00:30:20.309 --> 00:30:23.430 To make sure you have a person or a trip sitter, 00:30:23.829 --> 00:30:27.210 someone with you who you feel safe with and who 00:30:27.210 --> 00:30:29.769 can then witness you and watch you and be with 00:30:29.769 --> 00:30:33.349 you in that journey. And the final one is dosage. 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.660 And dosage is always a little tricky because 00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:39.980 it depends on the type of medicine Every medicine 00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:43.359 is measured differently with psilocybin. It also 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:46.059 depends on the strain of the medicine so the 00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:49.480 strain of the mushroom because there's all different 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.279 strains of psychoactive mushrooms that contain 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.240 psilocybin and an experience with for example 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.380 I'm trying to think like Aztec God mushrooms 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:03.920 versus Golden teachers, right? It's gonna be 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.660 a wildly different experience and you are very 00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:10.019 likely going to want a different dosage for for 00:31:10.019 --> 00:31:13.059 those And it also it depends on your gender your 00:31:13.059 --> 00:31:15.380 weight your you know what you've eaten that day 00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:17.559 all of that Yeah, and this is kind of stuff that 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:22.119 you do in your retreat do yes We we have an entire 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.539 process that helps people prepare and then integrate 00:31:25.539 --> 00:31:28.450 and that's one of the In terms of the environment, 00:31:28.529 --> 00:31:31.549 we believe in a container, like a really strong. 00:31:31.750 --> 00:31:34.369 So when you ask the question, is it safe? We 00:31:34.369 --> 00:31:37.250 help to create the safety for you to then go 00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:40.589 into places that might feel unsafe, right? There 00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:43.150 might be moments where you're like, Oh, I'm facing 00:31:43.150 --> 00:31:46.869 my father wound, right? That could feel really 00:31:46.869 --> 00:31:49.869 unsafe for a period of time. But the container 00:31:49.869 --> 00:31:52.369 around you, and you know, you know that you're 00:31:52.369 --> 00:31:54.769 being held, the container around you is solid. 00:31:55.089 --> 00:31:58.839 And so we build. this into our metamorphosis 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.559 method, which is preparation, experience, and 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:04.299 integration. And then there's some, you know, 00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:07.099 some deeper concepts in there, but that's our 00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:10.619 general method, mainly because all of the founders, 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.000 all of us at Metamorphosis have experienced unsafe 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.240 containers in the past, and we felt what it felt 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.900 like, and it didn't feel great. It was highly 00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:23.460 sensitive, right? Well, especially in that state. 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.539 And I think one of the things that I'm learning 00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:30.289 Well, I know of, but I'm practicing more is my 00:32:30.289 --> 00:32:34.849 state of being. And when you're at a, in that 00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:39.329 state of being, do you find where people start 00:32:39.329 --> 00:32:43.289 to connect more to their purpose or, and heal 00:32:43.289 --> 00:32:46.910 more because of where they, what they're experiencing, 00:32:46.950 --> 00:32:52.349 where they are? Absolutely. Yes. It is one of 00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:57.460 the most profound things to witness. people getting 00:32:57.460 --> 00:33:00.960 out of that default mode network because then 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.299 they're accessing these other creative parts 00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:05.200 of the brain. And I'm only speaking about the 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.859 brain right now. If we then move into the energy 00:33:07.859 --> 00:33:11.460 field and the places slightly outside of your 00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:14.400 body that start to open up and you start to access, 00:33:15.180 --> 00:33:18.680 you start to access more of yourself. And your 00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:23.819 self, capital S, extends all the way out to your 00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:27.559 fingertips, if not beyond. Okay, that's all you 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.500 right? That's your energy field and your energy 00:33:30.500 --> 00:33:34.299 field is you and it dissolves Into the oneness 00:33:34.299 --> 00:33:37.279 that's around us. So some people call this personal 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:44.519 space This is my personal space boundaries We 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.559 talked about that too the and People can heal 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.819 so much faster because they get out of their 00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:55.230 own way And there's often there's limiting beliefs 00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:58.970 that are stuck in the pattern. And basically 00:33:58.970 --> 00:34:02.589 the serotonin is bringing the neurons on the 00:34:02.589 --> 00:34:05.869 same highways over and over and over again. So 00:34:05.869 --> 00:34:07.990 it literally is like banging your head against 00:34:07.990 --> 00:34:09.849 a wall when you're trying to solve a problem, 00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:13.300 right? You're like, Why can't I get out of this? 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:16.119 Well, it's because you actually need to expand 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.360 beyond and take the side road. Your serotonin 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.940 needs to, your neurons need to connect to different 00:34:21.940 --> 00:34:24.599 parts of the brain. And then you also need to 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.059 open your mind to the possibility that you can 00:34:27.059 --> 00:34:29.719 also heal things within your energetic layer. 00:34:29.900 --> 00:34:33.079 And most of our health and wellness systems don't 00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:36.559 acknowledge an energy body. So that means that 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.039 you're trying to heal something on the physical 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.500 layer when in fact, you could heal it so much 00:34:41.500 --> 00:34:43.900 faster in the energy field. Yeah. So there's 00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:45.860 a distinction that is what I'm hearing. There's 00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:50.780 a distinction with the mental space, the energetic 00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.500 space and the physical space. Wonderful. I love 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:58.599 this. Thank you for that segue. At Metamorphosis, 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.400 part of our method is speaking about healing 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.179 on all four layers. We call those layers the 00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:07.699 body, the heart, emotional layer, the mind, mental 00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:10.280 layer, and then the spirit, an energetic layer. 00:35:10.699 --> 00:35:13.300 Nice, okay. And one of the things that we don't 00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:18.239 do in our healthcare world is we don't acknowledge 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.400 most of those. Or if we do, they're acknowledged 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.489 and they're separated. So you have like one person 00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:28.190 that's working on the physical layer, you have 00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:29.869 another person, you have a therapist that's working 00:35:29.869 --> 00:35:32.590 on the emotional layer. And then maybe you have 00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:34.150 an energy healer because you're a little bit 00:35:34.150 --> 00:35:35.969 more alternative. And so you're working on that 00:35:35.969 --> 00:35:38.789 layer. But most of the and mentally, you may 00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:40.590 be working on mindfulness, you know, you may 00:35:40.590 --> 00:35:43.710 be meditating. There's, but if you put them all 00:35:43.710 --> 00:35:46.570 together, and you work on all four of them at 00:35:46.570 --> 00:35:50.329 the same time, you can fully complete karmic 00:35:50.329 --> 00:35:54.690 blocks and loops, period. And you can do it quite 00:35:54.690 --> 00:35:57.679 quickly. Yeah, which is magical. So that's what 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.579 that's what we really specialize in is working 00:36:00.579 --> 00:36:03.099 on all four layers at the same time And that's 00:36:03.099 --> 00:36:06.159 what's so powerful about plant medicine is it 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:10.159 is a full four layer experience It's working 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.840 on the physical layer the emotional layer the 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.519 mental layer and the energetic layer all at the 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.539 same time nice I have like 25 questions trying 00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:24.940 to come up my head at once I know this problem. 00:36:24.940 --> 00:36:30.380 Oh my gosh. Well, can you share a story where 00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:33.199 you had somebody going through a healing that 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.940 they went through something really crazy or deep 00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:41.739 or dark and they used your method and went to 00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:45.139 your retreat or and came out just with purpose? 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:51.599 Yes. Yes, I absolutely can. Yeah, we had one 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.420 woman who has literally been to every single 00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:58.619 one of our offerings. She's done it all. And 00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:05.219 she kept coming back. And she came in with what 00:37:05.219 --> 00:37:09.199 I would call severe anxiety. She came in to our 00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.440 container. to our cracking the chrysalis container. 00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:16.920 And that one is designed for leaders and visionaries. 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.920 And we work both with psilocybin as well as some 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.500 heart medicines that are to expand and open the 00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:28.840 heart. And she was not only did she feel completely 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.679 uncomfortable in her own skin, she had, you know, 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:35.760 eating challenges, she had deep trauma wounds 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.900 with her family system. But she just had a very 00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:45.019 deep sense of unworthiness within herself and 00:37:45.019 --> 00:37:48.579 Through the process of going to actually, you 00:37:48.579 --> 00:37:50.039 know what she came in through our women's retreat 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.039 That was the first one she came to it was like 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.539 she's done so many of them. I forget She went 00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:58.320 to our women's retreat and then through the leadership 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.880 container and during that process she basically 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:08.099 went from corporate America living in San Francisco 00:38:08.099 --> 00:38:13.210 working Aggressively so much that she was overworking 00:38:13.210 --> 00:38:16.889 herself autoimmune diseases and by the end of 00:38:16.889 --> 00:38:19.030 her journey Which was about a year and a half 00:38:19.030 --> 00:38:21.670 two years with us and also went through our powerful 00:38:21.670 --> 00:38:24.449 purpose program She discovered her purpose as 00:38:24.449 --> 00:38:26.510 a sound healer completely left the corporate 00:38:26.510 --> 00:38:31.590 industry and is now like a highly successful 00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:36.760 Sound healer and is channeling Frequencies through 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.460 her sound bowls and and serving people who have 00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:45.260 cancer and working in and and serving festivals 00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:48.400 and Like it's incredible to see her transformation 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.260 She's like a totally different person than who 00:38:51.260 --> 00:38:54.639 walked in our door and to think that she if you 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.320 had seen her before Her kind of like buttoned 00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.280 up, you know corporate America. Everything's 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:03.880 great. We're fine energy to the heart centered 00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:09.969 Healer that she now is it almost seems like two 00:39:09.969 --> 00:39:12.849 different people But that was over the course 00:39:12.849 --> 00:39:17.050 of about I would say about two years And and 00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:19.050 she's a whole different person and all of her 00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:23.710 all of her chronic conditions have either reduced 00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:27.050 or completely gone away Yeah, I don't know how 00:39:27.050 --> 00:39:31.199 to put this but it's just like Identity probably 00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.099 has something to do with that, like who she thought 00:39:33.099 --> 00:39:36.000 she was at one point. And then she went through 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.980 this, this transformation, um, in the two years 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:43.940 and that old identity didn't keep her in that 00:39:43.940 --> 00:39:46.800 space anymore. And she found her purpose. And, 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.800 um, I was in my mind, I was trying to say something 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.139 a little deeper, but this is the way it came 00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:54.239 out. No, I think that that's exactly right though. 00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:57.079 Identity, you know, much like my own journey 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.579 when we externalize our view. of who we are, 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:03.559 which is what she was doing before and trying 00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.360 to follow in the footsteps of her family and 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.059 the people who surrounded her when she was growing 00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:13.000 up, it was quite literally making her sick. I 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.119 mean, she'd be messaging me in some of our programs 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.900 and she'd be like, I have to go to the hospital 00:40:18.900 --> 00:40:21.539 because my stomach is in so much pain right now. 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.559 And of course, Often say to our clients it does 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.539 get worse before it gets better. So like as we're 00:40:26.539 --> 00:40:28.679 going through this process, there's a cleaning 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.079 out There's a shedding process that happens. 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.739 So you got to be willing to go into the fire 00:40:33.739 --> 00:40:38.320 to come out on the other side Yeah, but she I'm 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.480 just realizing also she's a master coach now. 00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:46.539 So like the but now She has full agency over 00:40:46.539 --> 00:40:49.639 her physical body. And that's all because what 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.800 she is doing is in alignment with and authentic 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:58.039 with who she actually is. That's beautiful. And 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.519 when you say that I'm as you were sharing that 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.699 now I'm thinking about where we are in February 00:41:05.699 --> 00:41:13.820 6 2025 as a nation. How do you reach a larger 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.579 a group of people with, with high, you know, 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.000 trying to become, get into a higher state of 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:26.960 being. I was just, we did a podcast, maybe yesterday, 00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:31.000 I think it was, and we were talking about just 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:36.420 critical thinking. And but I know that this can, 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.920 you know, critical thinking with what you have, 00:41:39.099 --> 00:41:41.139 what you're going on with, you know, the psychedelic 00:41:41.139 --> 00:41:45.309 healing, and everything that it can work together. 00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:50.869 How do you reach a group of people to just really 00:41:50.869 --> 00:41:53.969 start to help them dig into who they're being 00:41:53.969 --> 00:41:57.389 so they can stop being in that loop, that pattern, 00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:02.849 and then ascend? Well, we got our work cut out 00:42:02.849 --> 00:42:09.559 for us. Judging by the current state of affairs, 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.760 you know, the good news is I will never be bored 00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.739 in this lifetime ever. Because with this skill 00:42:16.739 --> 00:42:24.539 set, I'm gonna be working forever. But yeah, 00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:28.380 this sort of goes into strategy and even prophecy. 00:42:29.659 --> 00:42:34.659 One of the things that I've come to realize is 00:42:34.750 --> 00:42:38.849 A, I am not alone in this process. I'm not the 00:42:38.849 --> 00:42:41.409 only one that's out there helping people wake 00:42:41.409 --> 00:42:45.309 up and remember. So I have to trust and I get 00:42:45.309 --> 00:42:49.369 to trust that there I have a whole soul family 00:42:49.369 --> 00:42:51.989 that's out there of light beings who are doing 00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:55.170 similar work in the world. And so that's one 00:42:55.170 --> 00:43:00.289 way that we access. But I would say that when 00:43:00.289 --> 00:43:03.190 I first started Getting out of the corporate 00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:05.690 world and having my own kind of disillusionment 00:43:05.690 --> 00:43:09.949 and leaving that matrix reality I thought I had 00:43:09.949 --> 00:43:12.289 to save everything and I had to save everyone 00:43:12.289 --> 00:43:15.070 and I was like, oh man, this feels huge You know, 00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:18.969 I'm gonna have to like do a hundred million ceremonies 00:43:18.969 --> 00:43:25.269 Yeah, you feel that burden for a moment Oh man 00:43:25.269 --> 00:43:31.599 and I finally realized that actually When I touch 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.039 someone and they wake up then there's another 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.659 person that they touch and their awakening and 00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:42.260 their opening touches X number of people and 00:43:42.260 --> 00:43:46.840 then it goes on and on and on and on and so I 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.000 would say Go exactly to the people who you are 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.159 called to to connect with to talk to to help 00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:00.139 do only your little corner and also The more 00:44:00.139 --> 00:44:03.980 you speak and the the the clearer your voice 00:44:03.980 --> 00:44:07.420 is in the world The more people are going to 00:44:07.420 --> 00:44:11.880 want to listen. Yeah, and you will touch Actually 00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.659 millions of lives just by working with let's 00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:19.000 say a thousand or a couple thousand over your 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:24.039 lifetime, right? Yeah, you will The visual that 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.840 was in my head is like circles like the first 00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.650 circle like your family or whatever the next 00:44:29.650 --> 00:44:32.369 circle your community and so forth and so on 00:44:32.369 --> 00:44:35.110 organization and things like that. Yes. That's 00:44:35.110 --> 00:44:37.730 what played in my mind. Yes and and I see that 00:44:37.730 --> 00:44:40.590 a lot I see that sort of spherical energy of 00:44:40.590 --> 00:44:43.809 like a sphere and I'm sort of at the core and 00:44:43.809 --> 00:44:46.510 usually like with with another person and in 00:44:46.510 --> 00:44:48.449 partnership and we're at the core and then we 00:44:48.449 --> 00:44:51.469 have a tighter circle right around us and then 00:44:51.469 --> 00:44:53.170 what a bigger one and a bigger one and a bigger 00:44:53.170 --> 00:44:55.929 one and it's like layers of the earth right it's 00:44:55.929 --> 00:44:59.510 like you are in one of those layers And you could 00:44:59.510 --> 00:45:02.550 be the core of your own. And the brighter you 00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:05.630 shine within yourself, the people will come, 00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:07.809 right? The people that need to be changed and 00:45:07.809 --> 00:45:12.110 are drawn to your frequency will come to you. 00:45:12.250 --> 00:45:14.429 Yeah, that's the exact word I was going to use 00:45:14.429 --> 00:45:17.849 is they're going to be drawn to you and vice 00:45:17.849 --> 00:45:23.590 versa. So I love that. I love that. Just be you 00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:27.050 and all that stuff. And it will come. It will 00:45:27.050 --> 00:45:30.989 come. I mean, it's like, you know, Noah build 00:45:30.989 --> 00:45:34.369 it and they will come. And I truly believe I'm 00:45:34.369 --> 00:45:37.349 like, okay, I'm building like, okay, what's next? 00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:39.989 You know, and I'm just trusting that people will 00:45:39.989 --> 00:45:42.769 walk through the door and want what, what we've 00:45:42.769 --> 00:45:45.329 got to offer. You have something great to offer 00:45:45.329 --> 00:45:49.449 from, I mean, just, I know one of my dreams is 00:45:49.449 --> 00:45:53.650 to finally have an actual studio and actually 00:45:53.650 --> 00:45:56.170 have people in the studio so we can. have a one 00:45:56.170 --> 00:45:58.409 -on -one. So that's what we're working towards. 00:46:00.050 --> 00:46:03.170 And hopefully that will come and we're working 00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:05.090 towards it. And I'll definitely have to have 00:46:05.090 --> 00:46:09.949 you come through and be a one -on -one like that 00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:12.449 for sure. Because I love what you're sharing. 00:46:13.030 --> 00:46:17.210 I wanted to, here's the word. I want to just, 00:46:17.369 --> 00:46:19.530 can you share some insights from, what is it? 00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:25.360 Enthio generated. And what does that mean? Let's 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.820 start with it. What does that mean? When I get 00:46:27.820 --> 00:46:32.300 super big, my manifestation is to make the word 00:46:32.300 --> 00:46:39.340 entheogen a thing. So I love it because psychedelics 00:46:39.340 --> 00:46:42.380 is a great word, but it really references the 00:46:42.380 --> 00:46:47.420 psyche. Psychedelics is speaking to the expansion 00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:51.219 of the psyche. That's the etymology. But entheogen 00:46:51.219 --> 00:46:56.800 means entheogen. And it means the God within, 00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.780 generated by the God within, yeah. And then I 00:47:00.780 --> 00:47:04.179 made up the word entheogenerated. That was my 00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:08.920 own creation. But entheogen is another name for 00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.960 psychedelics. And I personally believe it's a 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.079 more accurate word because it describes the spiritual 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:21.900 element of awakening the God within you. I love 00:47:21.900 --> 00:47:25.920 that. So how do you define embodiment? Yeah, 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:27.960 I can't wait to come back and be in your studio 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.239 because I just want you to keep asking me questions 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.940 forever. I'm like, is this recorded? Yes, it 00:47:33.940 --> 00:47:41.960 is. The definition of embodiment is really to 00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:46.039 bring a thing, whatever it is, right, into the 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.880 physical body so that it is so integrated within 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.219 you that there no longer feels like a separation. 00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:57.460 Yeah, that it is one with your physical being. 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:02.340 And one of the reasons we use embodied in House 00:48:02.340 --> 00:48:05.519 of Embodied Metamorphosis and I consider myself 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.900 an embodied consciousness guide is because I 00:48:08.900 --> 00:48:11.920 believe that the process of embodying your spirit 00:48:12.170 --> 00:48:15.190 Is that journey of bringing the spirit and the 00:48:15.190 --> 00:48:17.710 soul and the soul actually lives around the body 00:48:17.710 --> 00:48:21.230 in the energetic layer kind of looks like a human 00:48:21.230 --> 00:48:25.769 shape But it is to fit it. You know, it's a lot 00:48:25.769 --> 00:48:29.050 of us are walking around with like one leg out 00:48:29.050 --> 00:48:39.550 of our jeans Visually, I caught that. And we're 00:48:39.550 --> 00:48:43.329 like dragging a pant leg around with us, right? 00:48:43.769 --> 00:48:48.389 This soul that we're not fully embodying. It's 00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:51.230 not it doesn't really fit. It actually does fit, 00:48:51.329 --> 00:48:54.230 but we are not. But we haven't put it on the 00:48:54.230 --> 00:48:57.989 proper way. And so it's causing us to stutter 00:48:57.989 --> 00:49:00.650 step and to not be fully connected to our power. 00:49:00.690 --> 00:49:03.389 And I often say it's like if you've seen Iron 00:49:03.389 --> 00:49:07.789 Man, it's like putting the Iron Man suit on, 00:49:07.889 --> 00:49:10.050 but then you don't have the helmet on. Or you 00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:13.150 put your arms halfway down into the sleeves and 00:49:13.150 --> 00:49:17.170 you can't actually use the full power of the 00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:20.329 Iron Man suit until you put the entire thing 00:49:20.329 --> 00:49:24.150 on and you fit it exactly to your body. That 00:49:24.150 --> 00:49:27.789 is embodiment. Because once you embody the fullness 00:49:27.789 --> 00:49:30.630 of your soul around you and within you and you 00:49:30.630 --> 00:49:34.110 anchor it in, it becomes you and you become it. 00:49:35.230 --> 00:49:38.030 It becomes you, you become it. One more question. 00:49:39.269 --> 00:49:42.750 I have a thousand. I know you have a baby, so 00:49:42.750 --> 00:49:46.210 let me just keep looking. Keep going. Grandpa 00:49:46.210 --> 00:49:52.110 is loving my baby right now. One of the things 00:49:52.110 --> 00:49:56.550 I'm starting to work on is breath work. Does 00:49:56.550 --> 00:50:00.789 breath work play into what we're talking about 00:50:00.789 --> 00:50:04.650 now? Because I know, I mean, it's new to it. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.599 You know, I do the breath work and it really 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.019 helps me start my day. I have a little thing 00:50:11.019 --> 00:50:14.480 that I do in the morning after I run and breath 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.280 work is a part of it. And it puts me on just 00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.679 on a whole different level, like mentally. And 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.039 I just try to carry that with me throughout, 00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:27.320 throughout the day. Cause in your meditation 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.360 and things like that, what you do on your retreats, 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.440 breath work, something that is, is, you know, 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:39.199 beneficial. And what practices can people do 00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.440 right now? I think this is a great question to 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:46.219 ask after the embodiment question, because the 00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:47.960 question is like, you know, I gave you a sort 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.460 of esoteric answer. This is what it looks like 00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:54.000 and feels like. But what is the actual felt experience 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.659 of embodiment in our world and in our life? Right. 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:05.039 And I think breath work is a breath is The connection 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:09.219 to the divine in such a powerful way So the answer 00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:17.659 is yes It is it is the key to the divine and 00:51:17.659 --> 00:51:21.599 it is I mean there's so much especially in Hindu 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.860 beliefs around the power of the breath that we 00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:29.260 are able to interact With the divine energy around 00:51:29.260 --> 00:51:32.769 us the oneness around us through our breath So 00:51:32.769 --> 00:51:39.329 I'm an incredibly fierce believer in using the 00:51:39.329 --> 00:51:43.849 power of the breath to embody your own godliness 00:51:43.849 --> 00:51:49.849 and also to just quite simply clear your mind, 00:51:50.530 --> 00:51:53.969 achieve altered states of consciousness, to connect 00:51:53.969 --> 00:51:56.469 more to your own body and to feel more parts 00:51:56.469 --> 00:52:00.579 of yourself. The cool thing about breath work 00:52:00.579 --> 00:52:03.860 is it's so varied. It's kind of like, I just 00:52:03.860 --> 00:52:07.639 had this funny like analogy. It's like eggs, 00:52:08.179 --> 00:52:11.260 eggs. You can do everything with eggs. You can 00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:14.099 like, you can make a meringue with eggs. Wild. 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.539 You can, you know, you can make like a like custard. 00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.400 You can make an actual egg and make it scrambled. 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:26.280 It is so, it's such a varied tool for then. Consuming 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.900 breath work is a bit like that It's the eggs 00:52:29.900 --> 00:52:32.880 of altered states of consciousness you can take 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.500 it anywhere because you can you could do a soft 00:52:36.500 --> 00:52:40.000 breath that is quite simple and just focusing 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:43.860 on like a gentle exhale and that alone is going 00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:47.380 to bring you into a state of calmness and serenity 00:52:47.380 --> 00:52:50.300 or You can go all the way up to the other end 00:52:50.300 --> 00:52:52.239 and you can do like a breath of fire through 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.139 Kundalini. And you can have a full on Kundalini 00:52:55.139 --> 00:52:58.860 awakening, right? And you can also sit in holotropic 00:52:58.860 --> 00:53:02.000 breath work and go through or rebirthing breath 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.320 work and experience memories of your own birth. 00:53:04.780 --> 00:53:11.610 I mean, wild, wild. So I would say I actually 00:53:11.610 --> 00:53:14.889 originally, I'm glad you asked because I originally 00:53:14.889 --> 00:53:18.130 wanted to include breath work as one of the methods 00:53:18.130 --> 00:53:22.929 in my research. I wanted to discuss altered states 00:53:22.929 --> 00:53:25.289 of consciousness kind of in general and speak 00:53:25.289 --> 00:53:28.710 to breath work, meditation and working with plant 00:53:28.710 --> 00:53:31.610 medicines because all three of those bring you 00:53:31.610 --> 00:53:33.869 to an altered state of consciousness that gets 00:53:33.869 --> 00:53:35.809 you out of your default mode network of your 00:53:35.809 --> 00:53:38.409 brain and helps you connect more with who you 00:53:38.409 --> 00:53:42.679 are. And I didn't want to write that much. So 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.159 I stuck with plant medicine. Be honest. Let's 00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:50.599 be honest. It would have been really long. That 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:54.800 would have been a very long thesis. But I do 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.940 deeply believe in the power of the breath. And 00:53:56.940 --> 00:53:59.960 I would highly encourage you and everyone who's 00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:04.420 listening to include breath work in your daily 00:54:04.420 --> 00:54:07.880 practice. Please, please, please. Because that 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.639 was the single most effective tool for me in 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:17.039 my spiritual awakening. I love that. Yeah. What's 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:22.400 your mission? And let's start with it. What's 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.619 your mission? I'll give you both my personal 00:54:25.619 --> 00:54:31.699 mission and metamorphosis mission. My personal 00:54:31.699 --> 00:54:34.400 mission came through when I was very young. and 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:39.239 it's to create positive social change. That's 00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.219 my purpose and my mission in this lifetime, to 00:54:42.219 --> 00:54:44.179 create positive social change. It seems very 00:54:44.179 --> 00:54:49.139 vague, but it gives me a lot of room to move 00:54:49.139 --> 00:54:53.380 and shift in how that changed, right? But what 00:54:53.380 --> 00:54:57.650 is positive in this time is... typically healing, 00:54:57.989 --> 00:55:01.309 some version of healing. We needed a lot of digging 00:55:01.309 --> 00:55:03.710 through the shadow and excavating the shadow 00:55:03.710 --> 00:55:06.409 to bring it into the light. And at Metamorphosis, 00:55:06.670 --> 00:55:11.650 our mission is to create transformative experiences 00:55:11.650 --> 00:55:13.889 for a thousand community members in the next 00:55:13.889 --> 00:55:18.369 three years. And that involves virtual programs, 00:55:19.489 --> 00:55:22.769 our retreats. We have a festival that we do every 00:55:22.769 --> 00:55:24.889 year or every two years. And we're doing it again 00:55:24.889 --> 00:55:28.630 this year called MetaFest. And as well as we 00:55:28.630 --> 00:55:31.389 even have master classes and kind of one -off 00:55:31.389 --> 00:55:35.730 experiences that people can come to. But the 00:55:35.730 --> 00:55:39.449 trend to me right now, the most important thing 00:55:39.449 --> 00:55:44.650 that people need to learn is how to change. It's 00:55:44.650 --> 00:55:47.909 not even where was the change taking you? It 00:55:47.909 --> 00:55:50.769 doesn't actually matter. What matters is that 00:55:50.769 --> 00:55:55.110 you have the ability to change and evolve and 00:55:55.110 --> 00:55:59.260 flex. because we are living in a time of great 00:55:59.260 --> 00:56:03.639 expansion, a very unique and special time. And 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.139 the more rigid and tight you are in your system, 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.300 the harder it is for you to ascend in the natural 00:56:12.300 --> 00:56:18.340 way. That's good. Good thing it's recorded. Right. 00:56:19.789 --> 00:56:22.590 Oh, trust me, we when we go through and edit 00:56:22.590 --> 00:56:24.650 and look at a minute, I get to see this like 00:56:24.650 --> 00:56:28.590 two or three times. And so it's always encouraging 00:56:28.590 --> 00:56:31.829 when I have these kind of conversations. Because 00:56:31.829 --> 00:56:36.590 I'm highly spiritual. I do practice Buddhism, 00:56:36.909 --> 00:56:40.869 but I highly spiritual. And when I get to hear 00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:43.429 these conversations, like it's it's a lot, right. 00:56:43.489 --> 00:56:46.530 And so I have to go back and I get to go back 00:56:46.530 --> 00:56:51.099 back and listen. to what was said and get to 00:56:51.099 --> 00:56:55.139 share this kind of knowledge and insight with 00:56:55.139 --> 00:56:57.519 people who are listening. And I think this is 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:01.440 just amazing. But I would definitely, definitely 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:06.340 have to have you back so we can go to another 00:57:06.340 --> 00:57:10.320 level for sure. But how do people get in touch 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.559 with you? Well, please come check out our website. 00:57:14.780 --> 00:57:18.360 We are also, over the next couple of months, 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:22.159 we are putting the call out for our initiation 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.739 program. This will be the second cohort called 00:57:25.739 --> 00:57:28.860 Emergence for new facilitators, people who would 00:57:28.860 --> 00:57:31.539 like to facilitate and serve plant medicines 00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:36.320 and also your own unique version of medicine. 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:40.840 They can visit our website, which is metamorphosis 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.780 .ventures. And then you can also find us on Instagram 00:57:44.780 --> 00:57:48.500 at embodied metamorphosis. You can also find 00:57:48.500 --> 00:57:51.860 me at Susanna roses on Instagram. I'm there. 00:57:52.019 --> 00:57:55.940 I'm posting a lot and just generally sending 00:57:55.940 --> 00:58:00.599 support during this crazy, crazy time in which 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.980 we are all experiencing some massive shifts in 00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:08.260 our world. For sure. Well, I'll definitely be 00:58:08.260 --> 00:58:10.619 following you. I'll put all that stuff in our 00:58:10.619 --> 00:58:17.320 description. But to wrap up, what story or what 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.519 piece of advice or what is something that you 00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.860 want to share with someone listening to the podcast? 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.530 I've been going through a really big Recalibration 00:58:37.530 --> 00:58:39.869 I mentioned the initiation of motherhood has 00:58:39.869 --> 00:58:43.269 been huge for me. I was not expecting to be a 00:58:43.269 --> 00:58:49.030 mother and When I chose to keep this baby and 00:58:49.030 --> 00:58:51.550 allow him to come all the way through me into 00:58:51.550 --> 00:58:56.250 the world made a lot of people mad and I had 00:58:56.250 --> 00:58:59.650 to remind myself over and over and over again. 00:58:59.710 --> 00:59:06.030 I'm not crazy That my intuition I can trust myself 00:59:06.059 --> 00:59:08.739 I can trust myself. I can trust myself. And so 00:59:08.739 --> 00:59:11.119 what I say to any of your listeners right now 00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.699 who are interested in this kind of thing, who 00:59:13.699 --> 00:59:16.119 are feeling the awakening, but you're just not 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.579 quite sure. Maybe you're on a path and you're 00:59:19.579 --> 00:59:22.440 stutter stepping. You're just a little nervous, 00:59:22.619 --> 00:59:26.760 right? You are not crazy. You are perfectly sane. 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.920 You know exactly what you're feeling and you 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:34.210 can trust yourself. Susanna Rose Stokes. I appreciate 00:59:34.210 --> 00:59:37.130 your energy, I appreciate your insight, I appreciate 00:59:37.130 --> 00:59:40.670 your words and however you're recalibrating, 00:59:40.869 --> 00:59:44.369 it's beautiful and it's shining and I do appreciate 00:59:44.369 --> 00:59:48.409 you. And as we always say around this time, to 00:59:48.409 --> 00:59:52.909 all you listeners, make thriving your new normal. 00:59:54.849 --> 00:59:58.150 Susanna, thank you again. It's a pleasure. Thank 00:59:58.150 --> 00:59:59.050 you, thank you, thank you.