What's going on journeyers welcome first timers and welcome back to the you know, the
travel journey.
And today with me, I'm very excited, because we have a special guest a, what I call a true
natural king in the world of wellness, Dan Chapman.
He's not only a leading voice for natural remedies, but also the go to expert when it
comes to herbs, if you're from England or herb supplements and healthy eating.
Then as dedicated his life to creating lasting solutions that help people move from health
struggles to thriving living.
He's the founder of red remedies and a company that crafts, extremely formulated herbal supplements
and the second generation owner of sunrise health foods.
So get ready for an inspired conversation as we dive into the world of natural health
and explore how Dan's passion is helping people live healthier lives.
And here we go.
Dan, how you doing?
I'm doing fantastic today.
So good.
Good.
You know, it was so funny because when when we basically matched, I would say that.
And I was, you know, me and producer, Yvonne, we were, you know, doing some research and
everything.
And I started going back to my childhood.
And I was raised by mom and a grandmother who was very natural in what they, they took
in.
My mother would always have apple cider vinegar that she would drink or she would just eat
onion raw.
And my mom, my grandma also, they would have these big, big, large jugs of aloe vera.
And it wouldn't taste great.
But for some reason, I thought, you know, this is something that would make me strong
and healthy and, you know, just supernatural for whatever reason I was thinking that.
And you know, I would drink it.
And but, you know, along the line when I got older, I didn't, you know, do as much.
But it really took me back, back down memory lane.
And I really appreciate that.
And because of that, I was like, you know, maybe I need to start, you know, getting back
to that healthy life, like, you know, drinking aloe vera and things like that.
I'll tell you what, growing up, we always had apple cider vinegar mixed with honey
and water in the refrigerator.
I mean, I've been drinking that since I was, you know, can I remember?
Oh, man, oh man, just my whole life.
It's really good.
Yeah.
And it was such a fantastic memory that I was having.
So I understand that, you know, you growing up, you mean you had parents and grandparent,
is it grandparents or just parents?
My parents.
Your grandparents?
Yeah.
So you started that health thing.
Do you, what was that from?
How did they get that started?
Yeah.
So my, my mom and dad opened Sunrise Health Foods in 1961 on the immediate south side of
Chicago.
And, you know, anybody that opened a health food store in the sixties, you were either
in it because you were sick or you were a hippie.
There was no other reason you open a health food store in the sixties.
And you know, for better or worse, it was my mom who was sick.
So well before I was born, you know, she was a young lady in her twenties and just really
struggling with health as a young lady.
And it was, it was a significant journey for her to go from sick to realizing that changing
her diet could actually have an impact on the way that she felt.
You know, you think about the 1950s.
So before she opened that health food stores, when her journey was, nobody looked at their
diet to change health in the fifties.
So it was quite a journey for her.
And when, when she discovered it, and in her mind, it was a discovery that when she changes
little things about her diet, that would make a significant change in the way that her body
felt.
That was new information for her.
So I grew up with a mom who was really passionate about food and herbs and nutrition because
really it transformed her life.
So I'm really grateful to grow up like that.
Yeah, I can, I can imagine like, especially, well, you know, I was born in the seventies
and, you know, that wasn't me from my memory.
That wasn't really a big thing.
Not like it is now.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I grew up in a family that, you know, opposite of the, you know, aloe vera and the,
and the tasty apple cider vinegar, they, you know, a lot of fatty foods, you know,
and it was not a real known thing in our family.
But there were some things that, you know, that, you know, seeped in.
So I remember going to like a health food store, I could really still smell going to
a health food, you know, a health food store.
And I, it was a great smell.
Yeah.
I loved it.
It was all natural and you could just tell when you were.
Yeah.
Back then, every health food store had a smell.
It was typically the bulk herbs that would just like fill the aroma of the air.
So yeah, that it was, that's great.
So you, I mean, being young when you, when you're in your youth, how did that affect
you?
I mean, were you automatically into the health foods or was it?
Yeah.
You know, I was very amputated to it, you know, even when I was young, I mean, I remember
being, you know, eight, nine years old and working at the health food store with mom and
helping, you know, customers find the apple juice and, you know, a box of cereal or whatever
they were looking for and then, you know, go in and bring them out at the register.
And I just loved, it was kind of attracted to that idea, even as a young boy of helping
people find the foods that they wanted and hearing their stories of how when they, you
know, change from this bread to this bread, they're starting to feel better and just simple
things like that.
So yeah, I honestly, I've been in it my whole life and it's just been an incredible, like
growing up experience for me and I'm really quite an honor in my mind to have helped,
I mean, literally like tens of thousands of people go from unhealthy to healthy.
And that's the thing that's pretty wildest.
If you think about all of us, I mean, we're all aspiring to some level of health that's
probably just above where we are, right?
Yeah.
And whether you're really sick and just want to simply feel a little better or even whether
you're an athlete and you're like, I just want one step better than I am.
And so that's kind of the journey that I love to help people take is it's what's that next
step or two of feeling better look like for you and how do we help you achieve that?
No, that's amazing.
I know that you talked about your mom and her struggles.
Like what did that and seeing that really drive you to continue to be on the journey
and then to really create red remedies?
I know we'll talk about that more later, but yeah.
So there were three things that I saw.
This was true in my mom and it was true of every other person that I worked with over
the years.
And I tend to like to simplify things because I think on one hand, health is really complicated,
right?
And the other hand, health is really complex.
But at the same time, there are some ways to look at this in a little bit of a simpler
light.
And so there are three problems that I see that were definitely consistent with my mom
and again, like everybody that I work with.
And so the problem essentially is the impact of stress on the body is significant.
We can talk about that.
I mean, there's nothing in your body that hides from the negative impact of stress.
It's pervasive.
The second is toxins in our environment, in the air we breathe, the water we drink, the
food we eat, the clothes that are on our body, cleaning supplies.
There's toxins everywhere and it has an impact as well.
And then you couple that with the fact that our food is not as nutrient dense as it should
be, certainly not as nutrient dense as it used to be.
So if you think about those three things in combination, stress, toxins and lack of nutrients,
that combination, in many cases, it's the cause of disease.
But in every case, at minimum, it amplifies whatever disease it is that you have, whatever
symptom it is that you have, or maybe reframe it, whatever it is that's holding you back
is amplified because of that combination.
And so if we can help people deal with those three things, no matter what it is that you're
struggling with, we'll get better.
The amplification will come down.
And so that's kind of the starting point that I look at.
And again, no matter what health challenge we want to talk about.
And so working on that stress response and the body's function is the first thing that
I want to do with individuals because I'm going to help everybody 100% of the time.
So it's absolutely the place to start.
Well, when I'm listening to you, I'm looking at my body and what I went through.
So there's a couple of people that we can talk about for practical conversation.
For me, growing up, I was an athlete and I had a lot of, I kept, it's pretty healthy
here.
And one of the one things that I dealt with later in life is that, and listeners know
this that I've already mentioned that I lost my kidney.
So two of my kidneys, they're atrophied, but I have an extra one.
I had transplant.
And not just long, not too long ago and not too long ago, I actually, I was diagnosed
with squamous cell carcinoma, but I'm cleared of the tumor and everything like that.
And I'll find myself still trying to come back from all of that and still want to live
a healthier lifestyle, but it is still a struggle.
And I don't mean like drinking and things like that.
I'm talking about foods.
What would you say to me or somebody else that's listening that could be in that kind
of situation when it comes to the stress that comes along with it, the toxins that we deal
with, cleaning supplies and things of that nature?
Yeah.
So you definitely understand very well the impact of stress, right?
So because stress isn't just like, oh, emotions and all of that, certainly that's a part of
it, but your body is under a unique type of stress because of your kidneys, right?
And so your body is going to, I'll say, reprioritize the use of the energy that it has to deal
with that weakness.
Okay?
Now, we all have a weakness, right?
We all do to different levels, but part of my point in saying it that way is some people
have this idea that, oh, my body will just make more energy when I need it.
And that's not the way the body works.
Your body has 100% of the energy available to it today, and your body is amazing at prioritizing
the use of that energy.
And so your body is going to spend a little extra energy dealing with your kidneys.
And that's just a fact.
And so what we want to do is we want to make sure that as much as possible, we're going
to nourish and support the kidneys and the other systems involved.
And so maybe it'd be helpful if I just talk about three rules real quick.
So there's three rules that I believe to be true about the body.
And again, so if the problem is stress, toxins, lack of nutrients, here are the general rules
that I believe to be true.
First of all, we are body, mind, and spirit.
And I know you believe this, unless you do a podcast, right?
But it's so important to me to understand, first of all, that that is a fact, which means
that I have to pay attention to all three.
I cannot just pay attention to my body because a healthy body with a weak mind and a weak
spirit is still unhealthy.
So we are one whole person.
We need to deal with ourselves as such.
The second rule is that our organs and systems work together.
And so for you, the kidneys don't work in isolation.
And you know that, right?
The kidneys are part of the whole system.
And when one part of the system or the family is stressed, the whole family is stressed,
right?
And then the third rule, and this one I believe is really important, is that you have the
capacity to heal.
I've talked to so many people that have been sick for so long that they start to believe
that maybe I'm just always going to be this way.
And I'm not trying to suggest that your kidneys are going to heal.
You have a kidney transplant if I heard you correctly.
So there are certain facts about you, right?
And so I'm not saying we disregard facts.
But our bodies have the capacity to heal.
Every cell in our body has a lifespan, if you think about it, that's much shorter than
our collective lifespan.
The cells are dying off every day, and new cells are being created.
And that fact means that we have the ability with right nutrients, getting rid of the toxins,
dealing with stress to produce healthy cells when they're being recreated.
And so we absolutely have the capacity to heal, and it's really important that we believe
that, that we go into it, that mindset that I can get better, I'm going to get better,
and I'm going to take the important steps to get me there.
So I'd like to start with that framing.
And then the thing that I would do for you and anybody else is I start to work with,
what can we do to protect your brain and your body from the negative impact of stressors?
Those things that rob our body of energy.
And so every stressor that we encounter will force our body to spend a little bit of its
available energy that day to deal with the stressor.
And so you think about things that maybe are a little bit common sense.
If I have a fever, that is a type of stressor, right?
The body temperature is out of balance, the temperature is up, and I'm exhausted.
I sleep all day, right, because my body is dealing with that stressor.
So it's kind of a bigger example, but it's a good example because we've all experienced
the fatigue with that.
And that day, our body doesn't just make more energy, it's prioritizing the use of its energy.
But it does that in many, many small ways throughout the day that most of us are not
even aware of.
An example might be we walk by somebody that has a perfume on, and it's a chemical perfume,
which by the way, most of them are.
And so most perfumes are synthetic.
They're not natural to our body, and it causes a response in the body where your body will
have to deal with that.
And so I don't recommend chemical perfumes.
Use some wonderful essential oils that are natural and smell great.
So little things like that, we can make adjustments.
And what that's going to do is it's just going to say, okay, my body doesn't have to deal
with that chemical.
Maybe same thing with laundry detergent, shampoo and soap and cleaning supplies.
And those are things that we can absolutely all deal with.
But then we can also deal with similar things in the foods that we're eating.
So instead of drinking soda that's full of sugar, let's replace that with some water.
And maybe some listeners are like, oh, no, don't talk to me about my soda.
I don't want to do that.
Right, that's a pain.
But maybe you can take one little step.
So if you drink three cans of soda a day, drink two.
I mean, just do something to kind of bring it back a little bit.
And maybe the first thing you do when you wake up is drink a glass of water to get that
water in.
So we've got one healthy thing out of the way, first thing in the morning.
And then we're just paying attention to little steps because I've also find that it could
be overwhelming to think, oh my goodness, I got to change all of this stuff?
Well, no, just do one thing today or maybe even just one thing this week that is a step
towards healthy.
And when we start to make those little steps, it's the 1% that compounds really.
And we can all handle that little 1%.
And then we can definitely talk about some herbs that are really powerful in their ability
to help our body, I'd say modulate stress or essentially protect you from the negative
impact of those stressors.
So this is a lot of habitual things that are occurring for people to really live in a more
stressful life.
Now, I know you talk about the 1%, like 1% at a time.
But what about the stingy people that are listening and they're like, I can't do this.
You know what I mean?
I hear it sounds great.
I know it's good for me.
But what may be the thing is that they're addicted to a certain thing or a certain way
of being that keeps them in that stressful or stressor kind of life.
I'd probably start with my mind because until we change our mind, we're not going to change
our body or habits.
Right.
And it might be that thing where you get up and you talk to the mirror every day.
And I mean, it sounds silly, right?
But if I don't love myself, nobody loves me.
So I am healthy and happy.
And maybe that's what we say, right?
I wake up and look at myself, combing what hair I got left here in the morning, I'm
healthy and I'm happy today.
And maybe that's how we start our day.
And it's nothing more than just that one time, first thing in the morning, and that's my 1%.
And I'll tell you what, if you wake up and your perspective every day is I'm healthy
and I'm happy, your day will be different.
So that is just as powerful as a food change.
I believe it is.
You know what I mean?
And you're talking to a guy who does make his living selling healthy foods and vitamins.
But I'll tell you what, a positive mindset is just as powerful and maybe even more important
to get them started.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know that for me personally, like starting off with my day being someone that
is happy about the day, ready to be productive about the day, but really going back to my
mindset and saying that this is who I am today.
I'm healthy, I'm happy, I'm grateful, I'm joyful, I'm fulfilled.
And that really leads me down a different path because sometimes I'll look in the freezer
and I'm like, oh, maybe I want to grab that pack of bacon.
I'll leave that for next time and I'll get some oatmeal or something.
And it really, it definitely changes my attitude about how I approach things as well.
So I know that we talked about the stress toxins and the lack of nutrients.
How does red remedies really target those issues for people?
Yeah.
Yeah, so the way that I start and I find this really helpful is we have three primary formulas
that I talk to people about and you don't need all three, you just need one of the three.
And these formulas are called true energy, at ease and enjoy.
And true energy, at ease and enjoy are targeted for three different stress types.
And so all of us have stress, right?
We all know that.
But you and I can go through the same stress experience and we can come out at the end of
that feeling different, right?
Because we're unique individuals.
So I find that there are three basic stress types and if you can determine your stress
type and use the formula that targets that, we're really able to help somebody pretty
significantly.
So let me tell you what those types are and it'll start to make sense.
So the first stress type is an individual whose stress causes fatigue.
And so this person might generally be high energy.
Like they're always going, they got a lot going on, they're busy.
When there's a wall in front of them, they run right through that wall.
Nothing stops them.
It doesn't matter if they're sick, doesn't matter what the trouble or the problem is,
they're always going.
And that individual at some point is going to crash.
They probably already consume a fair amount of coffee or those energy drinks that a lot
of people, yes, I am against energy drinks for everybody listening right now.
Stop doing those.
There's so much sugar and so much caffeine, but you might be that person doing a lot of
those.
And so if that's you, your stress type is, I just get fatigued, I get tired.
I'm always looking for more energy and true energy is going to be your formula.
The second stress type is that person whose stress really hits them a little more emotionally.
So it's going to be nervousness, anxiousness, worry, fear.
Their brain is always going to be going.
So they might feel like they struggle with ADHD and focus and concentration.
Sometimes there's so much going on that they can't even make decisions, right?
Even right now listening, they're not sure if they're really this stress type or a different
stress type because they're processing so much information.
So if that's you at ease is your formula.
And then the third stress type is the person that comes out of that stress and they just
feel low.
Mel and Kali, I don't really want to put a smile on my face.
Kind of depressive.
Lack of motivation might go here.
So and this is a real thing, right?
If you don't have balance with some of the brain chemicals called neurotransmitters,
it's a real thing to just say, no, I'm going to sit on the couch today.
I don't want to go.
And so we need to have that, I'll say that motivation in the brain to want to get up
and out.
And so if that's you, enjoy is your stress formula.
And so what all three of these products have in common are some herbs that are classified
as adaptogens.
And adaptogen is not a specific herb.
It's a small class of elite herbs that are incredible at helping our body deal with chronic
stress.
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stress type.
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I have to understand the rules of how my body functions.
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Do you have the opposite of those people that show up that say, I don't get stressed?
I used to, but it seems like our great year of 2020 has solved that problem.
Nobody's been working with me today.
But yeah, there were a lot of folks, I'll say, I've been talking about this topic for
20 years.
So 10 years ago, yeah, I'd get a few people like, I don't experience stress, and then
it's been half an hour trying to explain it to them because we live in a world that is
full of stress.
Right?
And again, I'm not just talking about watching the news.
That certainly is stressful.
But I'm talking about the toxins is stress.
Any little change in our body, our body wants to be in balance for homeostasis, but it doesn't
stay there.
Right?
That's, you know, our blood pressure goes up, our blood pressure goes down and homeostasis
is like in the middle, right?
Our blood sugar goes up and our blood sugar goes down, our hormones go up, our hormones
go down.
So balance is a moment in time in what we're trying to do throughout the course of the
day is just to stay as close to that as we can.
But our body is created to go above and below balance, right?
And so that's what we're working to do is to take as much of the swings out as we can.
And by doing that, we essentially preserve the energy now that your body has available.
It doesn't have to deal with as many of those stressors.
And then what that causes, it just causes me to feel good.
I have tons of energy physically and mentally because I have available energy within the
body for the body to do what it was created to do in the first place.
And these are basically products that are uniquely made for certain individuals as they
come in to show you exactly what's going on with their bodies or talk to you about it.
Yep.
Yeah.
So, and again, I start everybody with that stress type.
And you don't have to spend a half an hour to determine what your stress type is.
I literally take like 15 seconds, 30 seconds.
And I also recognize that we can all go through each stress type over the course of a day,
right?
Or maybe even an hour, we can experience all of those emotions.
But if you spend a moment to think about it, you'll realize that one of those three does
tend to be dominant.
That's like the place where you just tend to land.
And when you find that right spot, again, true energy for fatigue, at ease for the kind
of the anxious, nervous and enjoy for that depressive melancholy, you make that your
everyday formula.
That is one of the most important things that you can do.
I think managing that stress response, I will tell you, it is far more important than a
multivitamin and essential fad, probiotic, and people are using lots of those.
Because if we modulate that stress response, your digestion will get better.
Your pain levels will improve.
Your hormones will come back into balance because stress impacts all of those things.
Digestant is maybe one of the biggest ones.
I have lots of people that come and talk to me about digestive issues.
And the reason is, stress has a direct impact on digestion.
So if we work on that stress response, the digestive system just starts to function better
again.
Now, we're talking about these different stressors and the different issues that come at us that
sometimes we don't recognize what those things are.
And sometimes we just go through life and there may be, I don't know, a bump in the
road or maybe a wall that we hit and it's like, what's happening?
What are some of the early signs that people can really start to look at where they're
now saying, something's going on with my body.
I need to really take care of me.
Because there are stories where it takes a while for people to really get in tune with
themselves and then it's too late or it could be almost close too late.
What are the early signs that people can really look at so they can start to take care of
themselves better in that sense?
That's a great question.
And I would say when it comes to dealing with that stress response, the issues can be so
far and wide.
And that's why I like to start there.
And so maybe I'll just give a couple of examples that might be helpful for individuals.
So if I start by talking about digestion again real quick, is when you live in chronic stress,
your digestive system naturally by design reduces the amount of enzymes that are produced
in the stomach.
So part of the reason that so many people are struggling with heartburn, acid reflux,
GERD, gas bloating, like indigestion is because they're under stress every day.
And again, our body's natural, it was designed under chronic stress that our enzymes would
be reduced.
So if we work on that stress response, all of a sudden my stomach starts producing the
enzymes that are necessary to digest food the way it was supposed to.
So I don't even need to do anything quote unquote with digestion.
I just work on the stress response first.
And so again, for a lot of your listeners that might already be taking a supplement
or some OTC or something for digestive issues, make sure that you're working on stress because
that probably is either it either is the core issue or it is a strong contributor to the
problem that you're dealing with.
And so it'll start to get better.
Blood sugar the same way.
Blood sugar under stress, we are not going to process carbohydrates the same way as if
we weren't stressed.
And so a simple way to work on that is to make sure that we're not busy going 100 miles
an hour while we're eating, breathing a minute and take a moment while we eat.
Cardiovascular issues are a big one.
If you study traditional Chinese medicine, they'll tell you that stresses the cause of
all cardiovascular disease.
It doesn't matter what you're talking about.
And we know that stress impacts blood pressure.
We can all feel blood pressure go out.
Or individuals with cholesterol issues, I mean stress, when your body overproduces cortisol,
which is one of the hormones produced because of stress, your body will actually produce
more cholesterol to counteract the cortisol.
So if we don't deal with that stress response, our body becomes even more of a cholesterol
producing factory.
So that's just some of the things to understand.
So if you take a natural supplement or a med to lower your cholesterol and you don't deal
with stress, your body is like, oh, no, no, I needed that cholesterol.
I need to now produce more and more and more.
Because the cholesterol was there to help your body deal with the excess cortisol.
So and I can just keep going.
We can talk about hormones.
We can talk about simple things like pain.
Pain.
Yes, pain is a response to physical damage to some degree.
Maybe you've got a knee or a joint or a hip or an elbow or something bad.
But pain is an emotional response.
So the pain you experience is going to run through emotions before it decides how bad
it hurts.
So if we deal with that stress response, the pain levels actually will start to come down.
I'm not saying pain will go away.
That in no way.
Right.
So if you have a pain that hurts your knee, like your pain is not going away, but you
might experience that pain as a seven or eight when in reality it might be a three or four.
So the pain that we're talking about is like, okay, so I hurt my knee.
Yeah.
And it may be a pain, but because of the emotional response, we'll elevate the number, so to
speak.
100%.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so a way that we all have experienced that is you go to the dentist and you could
feel the pain when you're in the parking lot, right?
You're like, you know it's painful.
And so, you know, it's a little bit of an exaggeration, right?
But we experience pain emotionally.
And so, you know, the other way that we can talk about that is we know that after a longer
day when our body is tired and fatigued, pain levels go up.
So if we can build strength in my body, my body has a much better capacity to handle
pain.
And so that's essentially one of the ways that I look at that is we just want to support
that body that is under more stress because maybe you do have a bad knee or a bad hip,
right?
So again, we can go, I mean, any topic you want to stress is involved in that issue.
Certainly it's involved in the way my brain, you know, thinks and focuses and has concentration
by just the way my brain functions in general.
Stress has an impact on, you know, allergies and, you know, respiratory function for sure.
Yeah.
So, I mean, when we help an individual deal with that stress response, we're literally
helping you deal with whatever issue it is that you have to help that thing get a little
bit better.
Okay.
I understand that.
Yep.
And I know you had mentioned something about the adaptogens.
Yep.
If I say that right, adaptogens and their ability to help the body manage stress.
How do you incorporate those with the formulas?
I know we talked a little bit about it, but can you just talk about that more of the resolve
of the dealing with stress?
Yeah.
So while every adaptogen will help your body deal with chronic stress, each adaptogen has
something that is particularly good at, you know, kind of an expertise.
And so in true energy, I use two adaptogens in that formula, and those are rhodiola and
Asian ginseng, also known as panix ginseng.
But if I look at Asian ginseng and rhodiola, those adaptogens are incredibly good at helping
produce energy, strength, stamina, focus and clarity.
In incredible historical use, I mean, those herbs have been used for thousands of years,
but there are also hundreds and hundreds of studies on Asian ginseng and rhodiola showing
their ability to help with all kinds of these different health issues that we've talked
about producing energy, you know, strength, stamina, focus, clarity.
So that's the foundation that adaptogens that I use in true energy.
And then in at ease, I use one adaptogen.
I'm using one called Shizandra.
Shizandra's expertise is emotional stress, or maybe you'd say distress, right?
It's the perfect adaptogen for that individual who is really struggling, you know, with,
you know, nervousness, worry, fear, kind of anxiousness and that type of feeling.
So Shizandra is the adaptogen in at ease.
And then in joy, I use a combination of two adaptogens.
I use Shizandra again, because that's the same stuff that we're dealing with when we
feel, you know, depressive melancholy type feelings.
But what we add to Shizandra in our enjoy formula is another adaptogen called Holy Basil.
Holy Basil is a wonderful adaptogen to build emotional strength, to lift up the spirit.
I say, you know, Holy Basil is like that best friend that comes over.
When you don't want to go out today, I just don't feel like it.
I don't want to go, you know, and they come over and just get you up off the couch to
make you feel a little better about the day.
Holy Basil kind of has that ability, you know, it's just a wonderful herb.
And so we use that with Shizandra in our enjoy formula.
Is it becoming more popular to use the adaptogens?
And is it really helping people?
So I ask this because I have a producer for the show, the podcast.
We had a meeting yesterday.
She didn't sleep.
We had a meeting this morning.
And I was like, Hey, are you doing, are you okay?
I was just like, Oh my God, I didn't sleep.
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna ask Dan about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And so first of all, when we work on that stress response, so all three of these formulas,
well, I certainly don't call them sleep formulas, but when you have a better, more balanced day,
you're going to have a more restful night.
And so I do also have a sleep formula that's called at ease PM.
So similar name to at ease that the daytime version, but especially with that stress type,
that individual almost always struggles with sleep as well.
And so we have a formula called at ease PM.
And it is, it can be taken by itself for individuals that only struggle with sleep.
So I would argue that if you feel like you only struggle with sleep, it's because you're
not paying attention during the day.
You also are, you know, you also do have some stress issues during the day.
You're just not going to do it until nighttime, you know, so no matter what your stress type
is, in a lot of cases, if you add at ease PM on top of your daytime formula, so you
add it to true energy at ease or enjoy, it's just a one capsule product, half hour to an
hour before bed is when you would use at ease PM.
And what that does is it quiets the mind and the body.
Again, if you remember the rules, we are body, mind, spirit, right?
And so we need something that's going to quiet your brain and your body, help you get in
that deep sleep and stay there through the night.
So you won't wake up feeling, you know, groggy.
A lot of people have looked at melatonin, which is, you know, you can find in a health
food store or drugstore for that matter.
And melatonin does help you sleep.
It's a hormone that your body produces when the lights go out and it kind of sets your
body's clock.
I do not personally like the use of melatonin because it is in fact a hormone.
My approach is to give you the building blocks so your body can produce what it needs to
on its own.
And so there's an amino acid called 5HTP.
That is the direct precursor to serotonin.
Serotonin is my healthy, happy, you know, brain chemical, if you will, or neurotransmitter.
Serotonin is the direct precursor to melatonin.
And so individuals, especially that struggle with anxiousness and depressiveness, both of
them are low in serotonin, which is part of the reason they also struggle with sleep.
Because if you're low in serotonin, you will be low in melatonin.
So by giving 5HTP, we help you produce the melatonin or serotonin that your brain needs.
And then you can also produce the melatonin that you need at night time in the right amount
that you need.
So again, I like giving your body the building blocks to do what I believe it was created
to do in the first place rather than doing it for you.
Okay?
Creating that balance is what I'm hearing is like really creating the balance between
day and night.
And I know that I've taken, yeah, and I know that I've taken melatonin myself and I did
not like it.
I bought two bottles as a matter of fact.
And I think I still have almost two bottles still.
One of my drawers.
So the thing that I was going to ask you about is that does it make you groggy when you wake
up?
Because I know when people take sleep medicine, whether it be a chemical or some kind of melatonin
or whatever, for me, I know when I wake up, I'm like, I just don't want to move.
That's counterintuitive to the way I want to have my life function.
That's correct.
And melatonin can do that.
And so that's part of the reason that I don't like it.
I don't want that effect.
But more importantly, if I give you melatonin, your body doesn't need to produce it.
And it is in fact a hormone.
If I don't know where your level of melatonin is right now, personally, I don't want to
give you more.
I mean, I don't want to know where your level is if I'm dealing with the hormone, where
I know that I can very, very safely give you 5-HDP and your body will produce serotonin
and then produce melatonin.
And if you have enough serotonin, that 5-HDP isn't going to like push and push and push.
Okay?
It's a building block.
Your body's going to use that amino acid all kinds of other ways as well.
And so it's, again, it's giving your body the nutrients it needs to do what it was created
to do.
And that's our formulation philosophy at Red Remedies.
And again, it's part of what makes us really unique is when we put these products together.
I've been doing this my whole life.
I could formulate something five minutes on a napkin, but we'll literally spend a year,
year and a half kind of really diving deep on the issue to make sure that we are fully
understanding what exactly is happening in the body, where do I need to help it?
Where do I need to support it?
How do I put something together that's going to help you get better rather than create
dependence on something that I created?
Nice.
You know, that's, well, first of all, I think that she'll be happy to hear this when we
go back to, you know, look at everything and editing.
But I think she'll be happy to, you know, hear that there's some kind of resolution
for her so that she can sleep at night.
And I know that we're talking about like consumer consumption, right?
And I know a lot of people they deal with, they want the quick fix, you know, how do
you address the consumer expectation around, you know, having something around like the
quick fix of, you know, taking care of their health or taking care of their, you know,
minds, bodies and spirits?
Yeah.
You know, we all want stuff fast.
I mean, who doesn't?
I mean, I, I do too.
If I don't feel good, I want to feel better today and right now.
But the thing that's really impactful is when you design an herbal formula the way we do
our products work, I still feel like shockingly fast.
It's amazing how quickly the body responds when it gets what it needs.
And so again, it's the, the reason we put formulas together, the way that we do is to
energy, addies and enjoy work quickly.
Probably the slowest one there would be enjoy.
And that's simply because that person that's low or has that depressive feeling, it does
take time to kind of build that up in the body and kind of bring you up out of where
you're at.
And so that individual, I say, you're going to experience a nice steady progress week
by week, but that's going to take a little bit to get you to, you know, I'll say balance,
you know, when it comes to your emotions and brain function.
True energy.
Wow.
I mean, most people will take that product and today or tomorrow you're feeling that
now you're not feeling like shaky jittery, like you just had a big coffee or energy.
What your experience is, is you're going to go through the day and you're like, wow, I
feel good today, you know, and you're going to get to five o'clock at night and you're
going to look back and like, wow, I didn't crash this afternoon and I still feel pretty
good.
It's five o'clock or seven o'clock, you know, and, and adies also works pretty quickly,
especially for the individual who is really experiencing, you know, kind of that physical
and mental angst.
We can help kind of quiet that feeling pretty quickly in an individual and then the longer
you use those formulas, the more balanced it creates in you.
You know, I want every day when you wake up to feel like a good day.
That's what we're after with these products.
So it's not just, okay, how do I get through the next five hours or seven hours that I'm
not interested in that.
I want every day to wake up being a good day and when it's time to go to sleep at night,
I want my brain to quiet down and let me sleep.
So yes.
Yeah, you know, I, I don't, I used to have a lot of problems going to sleep.
I think because the way that I function throughout the day, like when I lay down on mine, it
quiets itself, you know, and I'm out, but there's a lot of people that, you know, they
don't have that because, you know, the deal with the stressors of life and it still, it
goes to bed with them.
And I know I remember my mom saying that stress is a silent, silent killer.
Right.
You know, so it's like, you really want to really take care of what those stresses are
in your life.
So you can live a more balanced and, you know, healthy lifestyle.
Right.
Well, and that's the, you know, again, you talk about body, mind, spirit.
If you're feeling that way, you have to take a couple of minutes and sit with it and ask
yourself, why am I feeling this way?
You know, we don't, I mean, I've not been great at that.
I've had, that's like been a discipline of mine when I have an emotion to say or something
I don't like or something I'm worried about or something that I'm fearful about.
My natural reaction is just to push through.
That's just how I'm built.
And that's not good.
That's not healthy.
And so if I'm not sleeping well at night or if I've got, you know, whatever issues that
somebody might be struggling with, I found for me, it's really, really helpful just to
take a moment and to ask myself questions.
What am I really feeling?
Why am I feeling this way?
And to write some of that stuff down, I have found that when I put, you know, pen to paper,
it's amazing the things that I discover about myself that if I didn't take that discipline
to do that, again, I would just go right past it.
And now that becomes a recurrent thing.
It's like, all of a sudden I'm not sleeping well for a month because I've never taken
time to ask myself, why?
Why are you feeling that way?
You know?
And so, you know, we all deal with stuff.
So what am I dealing with?
Why am I feeling that way?
And is there anything that I can do to change it?
I mean, sometimes we're in situations that feel unchangeable, but is there somebody that
you can go to and talk it through?
You know, that's the human side of us that I think is so important.
We are built for relationships.
We are not built to deal with every problem on our own in isolation.
We need friends, right?
So reach out to somebody.
Somebody around you wants to help.
Yeah, really look at your life and your situation and just like you said, pause, take a moment,
really reflect on who you are in your life and how your life is going.
And when things show up that are, you know, seemingly taking you out of balance, check
that.
Check yourself and ask those questions that, you know, Dan just relayed to us.
And, you know, I mean, you're really great in what you're doing in your field.
And I love the world of natural medicine and natural herbs and things like that because
I know we get so stuck in the OTC, you know, things and big pharma, dare I say it.
And we think that they have all the answers to the aches and the issues that we deal with
as human beings.
As we leave out, what do you want to say to people that, and I know that you have said
to consult your physician with anything, but what would you say to those people that are
really held bent on not wanting to do natural things that can really assist and support
their lives?
Yeah, well, you know, I've talked to a lot of people that have maybe some level of fear
of herbs because maybe they, you know, listen to the news too much or whatever.
But understand that herbs have been used safely for thousands of years.
Herbal medicine is still primary medicine in almost every other country around the world.
It's only here in America that, you know, allopathic or drug medicine, if you will,
is primary and herbs are, they barely secondary.
But just understand that herbs have an incredibly high safety profile.
They do.
Herbs don't hurt people, you know, contrary to what you might hear.
And also just know that we're heavily regulated by the FDA.
We are under the FDA's authority.
And again, sometimes the news makes it sound like, you know, herbs are the Wild West and
there are no rules or regulations.
That's not true.
Yeah, I don't think so.
And then, you know, we also have what we've designed is our purity promise that our master
herbalist has put together because, you know, we do source herbs from all over the world.
We have incredible partners, but then we hold those partners accountable through our purity
promise that's managed by a third party lab.
So you can absolutely depend on the formulas that we put together.
And you know, I've been doing this for a lifetime.
My goal is to make products that I'm willing to take, Teranergy is my stress formula, by
the way.
That's still my favorite product in our whole line.
We've got, you know, 30 something herbal formulas and Teranergy is my everyday.
I love it.
That's, that's amazing.
And I definitely will be checking you out, but how can people get in contact with you?
And I will put your, put your information in our descriptions as well.
But can you just share with, with us how we can get in touch with you?
Absolutely.
And we've got a human beings that answer the phone here at Red Remedies.
That's 888-453-5058.
So give our customer care a call.
Obviously you can also go to our website at redremedies.com and red is R-E-D-D by the
way.
So redremedies.com and yeah, reach out to us.
We'd be more than happy and just really honored to kind of be come alongside you in your health
journey.
But you have definitely shined some light on some of the issues that I'm dealing with.
And also my producer, she will be again happy.
She'll be happy to, you know, listen to what you had to say.
And for people who are listening, you know, what is a quote or a thing that you live by
that you can leave with people just set for them to ponder on?
Yeah.
So, well, the first thing that comes to my mind right now is the joy of the Lord is my
strength.
You know, we talked about happy earlier.
Happy is like more of an emotion, but joy is foundational.
And so I think, you know, in this world, you have to anchor yourself somewhere.
So ponder that.
Ponder where, where are you anchored and where is your source of joy?
I love that.
I love the anchoring, it brings, you know, some emotional stability.
That's right.
Then I appreciate you being here and what you shared was very enlightening.
And you know, I wish you could go deeper.
I know we have, you know, time limits and everything right now, but I do appreciate
you being here and thank you for being on the Theravu journey.
And for all you listeners and watchers on YouTube, stay tuned for another episode of
the Theravu journey.
And if you want to get in touch with us, go ahead and go to the Facebook group, the Theravu
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All right, y'all take care and have an amazing day.