Welcome to Fear of Stars, Disney Films Decoded,
the podcast where - Wait, I'm sorry, switch chairs.
Wait, this is the squeaky one? Yeah. So the one
thing I did, and I did it wrong. That was useless,
thank you though. F for effort, actually. I even
sat on it and told Kili, like one of them is
squeaky, and I thought it passed a squeak check.
If the listener doesn't know, Kili is 300 pounds.
yeah when he asked me today if when i go back
to america when i look at americans like am i
surprised at how fat they are and the answer
is yes like they're huge like my mom told me
i'm skinny on facetime and i'm like i everyone
tells me i'm fat here and i have like a big belly
and i would be skinny in america but you have
no idea like it's not an exaggeration how big
americans are you know i haven't kicked this
off yet Welcome to Fear of Stairs, Desi Films
Decoded, the podcast where four friends from
different backgrounds unlock the world of Desi
cinema. I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been
to India. Hi, I'm Kili, I'm from India, and I
love films, and I'm not a zombie. Hi, my name
is Nikki, and I love to party, and sometimes
I turn into a zombie at these parties. I'm Adam,
I'm the American movie buff, and yeah, I learned
that Russian mafia parties are the best. Is that
true, Nikki? I've always had an inkling that
some parties are backed by the mafia, but I wouldn't
know if they're the best. Have you been to a
private island party? I've been to an island
party, yeah. Yeah, actually, I have. It's in
Gopangan, which is similar, right? I mean, there's
some parallels. Some people say, you know, there's
a huge Russian mafia community there, allegedly,
along with some Israelis and all that. Yeah,
it's a really cool group of people. It's where
the full moon parties are for people that aren't
aware. Were there magic pills going around at
these parties? Oh, yeah, 100%, a lot of things.
I wouldn't say they give you the ultimate high,
but then they give you a certain good high. It
doesn't really get you to the zombie state you're
hoping for. No, I mean, there are things that
I feel like we... We can achieve that through,
like, I don't know, fentanyl, which I don't like,
by the way. Have you ever been to a party where
they, like, test new drugs on the people there?
Oh, that's so ridiculous. Like, it's in every
movie. Like, we're introducing a new drug to
this party, and I've, like, never seen a party
where they're like, everyone tests out this brand
new drug, and everyone's like, yeah, give it
to me. I have no idea what this is. Like, that's
crazy, I think. I don't think I'm underground
enough to know if there are... those kinds of
parties yeah we're just not cool enough to get
invited to these parties but you know one thing
one idea remember winnie how you keep saying
that we should go to goa yeah yeah i do want
to go to go i think this movie really sold it
i don't know for you guys but i'm ready to go
party in goa for me it was always imagine is
light Those hot, hot service workers that were
going to Goa, I want to go hook up with them.
So that was like my first reason. But this second
movie cemented it. I heard this film was shot
in Mauritius. Mauritius, yeah. Only some scenes
were like Goa, yeah. But they had a lot of Indians
there. Well, Mauritius is an island that there's
a lot of Indo -Caribbeans. So a lot of people
from Indian ethnicity backgrounds and Africans.
So yeah, it's a mixture. What movie are we talking
about? Yeah. What is this? This is a hint. Goa.
Keeley, what is the movie? Go Goa Gone. Go Goa
Gone. You recommended this. Yeah. It's the only
zombie films made in India. And a stoner comedy
too. So like a stoner zombie comedy, which is
probably very rare and the first for Indian cinema.
So, okay. I don't know if you guys will get this
reference. When I was watching it. To me, it
was Workaholics meets Dead Island. I've seen
a bit of Workaholics. Adam Devine, right? Correct.
Have you seen Workaholics? No. I'm surprised.
It was like on Comedy Central about three dudes
in a call center. They're like friends. They
made like a Netflix movie here and there too
together. I forgot the name. It was a big show.
And then, you know, Dead Island, the video game.
Yeah, the video game. It seemed like both of
those mashed together, right? And I checked.
And they both, both of those properties, one
was a TV show, one was a video game. Dead Island
is like a zombie game that takes place on like
a tropical island. It is, yeah. And Workaholics
is like three dudes at a call center and they
just combine those. Both those properties came
out in 2011 and then this movie came out in 2013.
So I guarantee that they saw both of those and
were like, all right. do it you see i thought
it was a mixture of like harold and kumar meets
zombie land because you have that stoner comedy
with two best friends who are on an adventure
trying to figure something out or have like a
motive and then you have the zombie component
which is like zombie land i don't know what year
zombie land came out harold and kumar was much
older for sure zombie land was 2009 yeah i saw
that so they must have seen that too i mean it
has a bunch of influences for sure i was surprised
at how yeah we talked about how western it is
and how liberal they are like they're smoking
weed the whole time but there's not even ratings
on the movie to account for that so they keep
saying like cigarettes are bad for your health
even though they're showing like joints and stuff
and i was like they don't even have like advisory
messages that are advanced enough for this movie
True. Yeah. There was a scene where the guy was
starting to make out with the woman in like an
office setting. And I was telling Kelly like,
whoa, this was allowed back in Hollywood, in
Bollywood movies. It has everything. It has like
promiscuous sex. It has like, yeah, women sleeping
around, like women in bikinis, drug use, excessive
drug use, like violence, swearing. It was super
Western, I guess I want to say. I guess I haven't
felt this way about movies since Deli Belli.
And there is a common thread. Yeah. I looked
up the movie and one thing, one movie that people
keep comparing it or like grouping up together
is Deli Belli. Maybe because of its like offbeat
humor. I'm quoting this now. And it's like, it
has like a very unique style of filming. And
Vir does. Good point. Yeah. And it's like when
we were starting the film, like, so we were like
smoking some. Crack cocaine? No, no, no. Some
weed for our headache and stuff. It was the exact
same scene. In the exact same scene, these two
people looking at TV and they're smoking two
joints and we're on this side of the TV smoking
a joint, sitting in the same position and they're
smoking. It was super funny. I love the movie
from that second. It was very like, you instantly
get the whole friendship dynamic. I do really
like that first scene when they're all like smoking
weed and fighting over like who paid what and
who should take out the trash and they like list
each other's grievances and stuff and you immediately
get the dynamic of these three people that like
hate each other but also have grown up together
and can't live without each other and so they're
just like always gonna be in each other's lives
probably fighting all the time but like it's
very like loving oh so like this podcast yeah
it's exactly like this well that's why they were
staring at the mirror watching yeah but their
banter was golden it made the movie like the
dialogue between them was so rich and witty and
funny they're a bunch of lazy stoners that don't
want to do anything and they work some dead -end
job at a call center right i thought it's like
a it I mean, it can be call center. But this
call center, they usually have the phone. You're
right. It's a white collar. They're all in like
a white collar office job. Yeah. But they go
through massive ups and downs because like they'll
be partying hard and say, okay, I'm going to
quit everything. I'm going to quit alcohol, drugs,
partying. And then next thing you know, I'm going
to go all out. I'm going to party as much as
I can. This movie takes a lot of cues from like
the Apatow films. You know, like. Yes. Knocked
up in 40 year old where it's like, or Pineapple
Express. It reminded me a lot of like. yeah weed's
fun but like it's time to grow up as well and
like what kind of being an adult and moving on
from that looks like i don't know i thought we
kill and i thought this movie was like an endorsement
of weed just say no to other drugs but weed's
okay don't take don't take random pills yeah
but everything in moderation and when to move
on and you know grow as an adult it doesn't mean
you don't have to smoke weed but you have to
like you know start having agency in your life
i think That's the journey of Hardik. Correct.
Yeah. So let's introduce the characters. Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, you have your typical, like
any other good stoner comedy, you have like a
group of dim -witted, like stoner friends. They're
all stoner. Two of them are stoners, to be exact.
You have like the two main characters, right?
One is called Hardik. He's like the most promiscuous
guy. He's like a... You know, what we would call
a fuckboy. Playboy. Playboy. You know, he likes
to sleep around. Like, tries to be Johnny Bravo.
Womanizes. He tries to womanize. He's a womanizer,
basically. And the other one is Love. He's, like,
the hopeless romantic. He's, like, the guy that's,
like, easily, like, smitten with any girl who
comes to talk to him. But they're both stoners.
You know, they love to just smoke. Smoke some
weed and, like... You see it in a lot of Western
movies. The names are very on the nose. Hard
Dick has a hard dick the entire movie and it's
just horny. Love, L -U -V, just falls in love
with every girl. It's pretty on the nose. It's
a stoner one. They have to really make it unsubtle
for you. That's the thing with a lot of Indian
movies, I feel. You know what it is? It's like
a Kojima game where it's like Death Man. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Fat Man. Yeah, Fat Man and like characters.
That happens in Indian films a lot. Like they
hammer the nails a lot of time and then like
where the silence can work or like so no dialogue
needed. Like they would extra put a dialogue
over the visual to make it like super obvious.
Yeah, that's like a volume. uh commonality yeah
what's the third roommate's name there's a third
roommate uh he's there he's not like the other
two his name is bunny he said bunny he's like
a little innocent you know he's like the one
in he has big ears and fucks a lot he's the he's
the he's the goody two shoes in the dynamic right
he's the the the the smart one the the uptight
uh dude that just Is their bitch. He takes the
job seriously. And he got them their jobs. It's
later revealed. So he's the responsible one.
That keeps taking care of them. But they bring
the fun for him. Because he's antisocial without
them. But when they were floundering. In front
of zombies. He was the first one to fight the
zombies. Super hardcore. He's the most adult.
And then you have. I'll get in the plot later,
but like you have the female lead, Luna, who
I feel is only good at taking her clothes off.
Every shot you see, okay, I know it sounds weird,
but like every shot that I see her, she's always
taking her shirt off. Wait, except for the one
scene where they're doing like, have you been
bitten by zombies check? When did she take her
clothes off? She's always in her bikini the whole
time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The introduction scene.
She was in the... That was a joke. But like,
yeah. But amongst the... Apart from Boris, she
was the first one to kill a zombie. Yeah. Interesting
note. So this actress won Miss India Universe.
Oh, okay. And then she placed, I think, the year
later in America for Miss India. Wow. Well, she
is pretty. She is gorgeous. Yeah, she's pretty.
It's Luna. Because they needed a full moon party.
Oh, my goodness. And then there's another character,
which I think it's weird that they, he's like
in every promotional material you see, he's like
supposed to be the main, main character, the
lead actor. But his name is Boris. Boris. Boris.
He's the director, right? He's the director.
He was a producer. He was a producer? Yeah. Okay.
Okay. That's why he made himself look so cool.
So cool. Basically like a game character. So
anyone understand Russian here? Or, like, how
they sound? No. No, because I want to know, like,
how good his imitation was of Russian. I mean,
he imitated a white man pretty well. This is
basically an Indian man pretending to be a white
Russian man. All right, there's the... He had
blonde hair. There's my question again. Is it
whitewashing or anything? Is it... No, I mean,
he comes out at the end that he's just... Well,
can you explain to the listener, first of all,
like, this character? Okay, Boris is, like...
So, okay, we'll get back into the beginning,
but, like, throughout the film, they go to this
island, right? And then they meet, like, this
Russian mobster who's, like, kind of, like, the
sole perpetrator of the cataclysm, the sequence
of events that happen in the movie. We thought
he's Russian, but then it turns out, like, not
long after, we find out that he's actually Indian,
who's, like, just been ingrained into the Russian
mob. That's from my understanding. Well, he says
that he drank so much vodka, his blood basically
turned into Russian. Yeah, his blood turned Russian
because he drank so much vodka. And he dyed his
hair blonde, has sunglasses, wears like the Russian
clothes and speaks in a Russian accent. But did
you? think something was up with his appearance
when you first saw him? Or did you think he was
Russian? I legit thought he was Russian. Honestly.
He had me fooled. Well, Kili knew he was Saif
Ali Khan. Yeah, so I know Saif Ali Khan. So I
was like, something is up about him. Like, I
didn't... So at first, I was like, really? Like,
he's playing a Russian character? Because in
India, like, there are a lot of Russians. Like,
I've seen Russians playing characters in Bollywood
films. I'm like, so they just got, like, an Indian
guy? So something must be off. So I think they
kind of wanted to give that... sense in audience
like Indian audience that like something is off
like when you see Saif Ali Khan playing a Russian
dude but like yes listening hearing from Nikki
that like he thought he was Russian that's that's
a good thing because he doesn't know who is I
didn't know either I didn't know he looked funny
he is loving this role like he looks like he's
having a blast yeah like he like clearly as the
producer was like I want to do that I want to
be on the poster like I just want to have fun
being Boris did you know Winnie Well, yeah, because
I watched the movie with Killy. So he was like,
that's Saif Ali Khan. And I was like, once you
point it out, it's pretty obvious to tell. Would
you not have understood that he's Saif Ali Khan?
But maybe later. I don't know. I feel like he
still looked brown, but his skin looked bronze.
I think I would have maybe thought he was like
a mixed kid. I would not have been able to tell
that's Saif Ali Khan. Maybe like a halfie. As
far as like, is it, you know, cultural appropriation?
It's so hard. I kind of always lean towards if
you're punching down, it's bad. And if you're
punching up, it's fine. Between India and Russia,
though, I don't know who's punching up or down.
Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know. Does
anyone have a better answer? I think they're
punching up pretty much here. It wasn't like
making fun of a Russian. Right. That's true.
And then he comes out as Indian pretty early
on in the movie. And it becomes kind of like
a joke that this Indian man is pretending to
be Russian. yeah i think they wanted to do the
joke and also save the stick like kind of a way
like you know like do the joke but like you know
doing it like we were aware that like we are
doing that joke kind of way so it's like that
kind of role playing here like so they wanted
like he wanted to let's say like he's a producer
he might have wanted to do like okay i was thinking
like maybe the writer wrote his russian character
and he's a producer and he saw that i was like
i want to play that they're like no but you cannot
play that character he's like a russian character
and he's like i can pretend to be a russian because
that's super cool character i can see like i'm
just i'm just like this is probably his only
opportunity in life to be a white man and he
just like jumped on it He says at one point that
I was like towards lighter color. I mean, which
is like contextually not wrong. Like in South
African is like pretty much lighter skin color
than average Indians for sure. It reminds me
of Tropic Thunder. That's where I was getting
at. Robert Downey Jr. playing a black guy. Yeah,
I was about to say that. Yeah, I mean, in Tropic
Thunder, people always bring that up and they're
like, could they have made that today? yes because
he's not playing a black person he's playing
an actor playing a black character and that's
the joke is like he's being a pretentious actor
who's like australian like that's the joke this
yeah kind of too like he's just he's not playing
a russian he's playing a dude pretending to be
russian which makes it a little bit funnier because
you're making fun of the indian character pretending
to be russian I don't know. I didn't feel dirty
watching it, so I think it's fine. I didn't find
it offensive. I didn't find it offensive. I just
wondered like, is there like a thin line somewhere?
But like the whitewashing aspect. If a white
guy did like a cool, he's like, I'm a cool Indian.
Yeah, he'd be canceled immediately, obviously.
Like Justin Trudeau pulled that off and it didn't
really work. Well, kind of what you said about
punching up or down, right? There is a dynamic
in the cultural historical context also, especially
in India that you have to be aware of. This is
more like punching parallel. But in the context
of just seeing pictures of Modi and Putin holding
hands, it does check out. It's Agent Smith versus
Neo just kind of hitting each other in the face.
So this film was directed by this director duo
Raj and DK. So it's like two people, like director
duo. I remember watching one of their films before
that. It's called Shore in the City. That was
also like very, it's a very cool film. It's like
a bunch of characters in Mumbai and then like
things happening. Kind of an anthology treatment
in a film, like no multiple characters and then
there are stories and then they're all coming
together kind of a film. And that was pretty
fun. And this is the second film, I guess, from,
I mean, second Free Children film, I guess. Have
they done anything else since? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have done a web series that's been very
popular in India called The Family Man. It's
about some undercover agent or something or being
a family man. And yeah, so that was quite a hit.
I saw a lot of ruckus around it, but I never
watched it though. Did you see when the credits
were starting up for this film? Like number one,
they have a ton of sponsorships to pay for everything,
but then it was like sponsored by Volkswagen
and it stars a Volkswagen car. Did you see that?
It's like starring this Volkswagen car. I was
like, damn. I think it was the car they used
to go to Goa. Yeah. But the car didn't seem very
nice. No, it was just a regular ass car. It didn't
seem like an advertisement. It didn't seem great.
Or it kept getting into car trouble too. So I
don't really know why that was starring that
car. Maybe Volkswagen was targeting the customer
base that just wants a small family. Stoners
that have no money. The small family car. You
know, like a small hatchback. they just won i
mean that's a big market in india like small
hatchbacks and volkswagen maybe might have been
like seen as like you know like a bigger like
a like a better company exp more expensive company
so they're like kind of okay we have like a cozy
car you can just go yeah but the whole time because
that is in the very beginning of the film and
i'm just waiting for the car to do something
cool And it just never does. Because I'm like,
there's got to be a moment where like, that's
a cool car. Like they get out of a scene or they
drive through a wall or something. Nothing. They
kill a bunch of zombies in the car. Is that how
you want to like advertise the car though? I
don't know. Let's run over people. Plow people
over. Wasn't that Boris's car? Was that? That
was a Jeep. That was a Jeep. It looked way cooler
with the scissor doors and shit. That was amazing.
And that got free advertising. And this shitty
ass Volvo got nothing. Yeah. There's one thing.
One thing I want to mention right for me is that
there was like a huge blast in the past for me
at the very beginning. The thing that they were
watching. Indian Thriller. that's what they're
calling that's the me yeah thank you it was like
a music video that back in my school we used
to spread this clip everywhere we're saying like
oh my god look at this indian thriller that's
what we called it oh that's what it's called
but then i never thought i'd see the the clip
again like they were watching it but i think
it's from a movie yeah for sure yeah i don't
know it's like an old movie i mean i even googled
indian thriller and that it'll come up literally
if you just googled indian thriller that's like
the first thing that'll come up yeah i never
watched it but like it looked very meme worthy
yeah it's like you can tell like the guy was
wearing like michael jackson's famous red outfit
from thriller it is funny i mean this is 2013
how are they watching this there's no like on
the tv I don't know how they're doing this yet.
It's like a weird VHS tape. On a TV though? I
don't know. Yeah. HDMI. There were already HDMI
cables. Some laptop hooked into a TV. If you
want to go into the technicalities, that's probably
it. Okay, thank you. We can move on now. That
was my big hang -up of the movie. They couldn't
change... Oh, no. It was on a TV because they
wanted to change the channels. It was just cable.
It was just cable. Jeez, Adam. Indians are civilized
people. I was like, how is that possible? I think
Adam was thinking from a meme point of view.
yeah yeah it was like where would the media be
playing how we watch like youtube or something
like that funny but yeah maybe they were like
that cinema was on that film was on in some channel
back in the day you just talked about memes because
like there was no way to show your friends what
you were talking about you know actually that's
2013 that's when you were in high school nikki
so this meme was probably going viral at about
that time this movie was made actually i was
in college by then but like the clip was circulating
even way before that yeah when i was in middle
school remember like how what roughly what which
year yeah you were in college in 2013 i was in
college 2013 so it does add up uh i know but
the clip the clip is like literally like it went
viral around like 2006 2007 yeah yeah that's
what it had to be around that time i was just
curious yeah because yeah because i i didn't
know and so it's like it's very interesting that
it was like viral in thailand as well i remember
my bully quoting the song goodly man man man
man he was like that well i think he had a lot
of thai indian friends let's put context in that
too actually it was a lot of thai people I think
we were being a little racist about it, but okay.
Yeah, that tends to happen in schools in Thailand.
Everyone that showed Indian thriller was making
fun of Indian culture. I thought it was cool.
I don't know. I guess maybe I saw it a little
differently. Not to toot my own horn, but how
much of a contrarian I can be. You win the not
racist award. Okay, so anyway, let's just get
into it. right straight out the bat we know they're
stoners they're like sitting in your typical
couch looking all baked having a lot of food
and snacks i was looking for a bong but there
was no bong yeah just joints right no there was
a bong on the table and a hookah as well a shisha
pipe yeah bong but they never smoked they didn't
smoke the bong yeah but yeah i was confusing
at first because i keep saying like what adam
said like you know cigarettes are bad for you
but like they're clearly smoking weed just the
way they're behaving like you can tell they're
smoking weed including from the trash from the
trash it's so funny they like do bonkers and
they're like cigarettes are bad for you yeah
i think they don't have adversary messaging for
it's only cigarettes and alcohol yeah that's
what i said it's an endorsement of weed it's
a pro endorsement of weed drugs in general what
did they say they're in the the joint party remember
that joke he was saying like you're in the bjp
the something yeah yeah bharatiya joint party
it's like bharatiya janta party is bjp who is
in power right now and there's like you will
open like bharatiya joint party yeah that was
fun and also like even in the song like they
were again and again saying that weed is better
than alcohol in the lyrics of the like babaji
ki booty song so i think they were kind of endorsing
weed a lot in this film just quickly too is weed
grown in goa i don't know because whenever i
went to goa like i never found like good quality
of weed there okay i assume there's a big drug
scene in goa though because that's where there's
a lot of raves and parties like psytrance a lot
of psychedelics i assume so yeah as i was saying
two friends they have another friend called bunny
who's like the goody two shoes they all work
in the same company which i'm assuming it's an
it job And each character has their own little
thing going on before the real events of the
film. So I'm just going to do a quick rundown.
For Love, he's in love with this girl that he's
with, which his friends say is bad news. They've
been together six months. They've been together
six months. And he has plans to propose to her
at this dinner date. And he notices that... There's
a guy that's been watching them have dinner.
And you can also tell that this woman that he's
about to propose to, she's very disinterested.
Doesn't want to talk to him. And you can put
the two and two together, right? Just cheating
on him. And they asked him, have you had sex
yet? And they haven't. He's saving it for marriage.
What a lovely guy. Very pure. But yeah, he finds
out that the guy that's watching them is like
her. you know her the side guy and then like
she was planning to break up with him and so
he's like heartbroken and then he overhears the
two talking that they were planning to go to
goa and that's where it sets the events in motion
where he's like full of heartbreak and he wants
to tell his friends that you know maybe we should
go to goa all right that's that's for love's
arc uh i had a friend that went on a date with
a thai girl and they went to a restaurant and
at the end of the dinner She pointed at the booth
next to them and said, those are my parents.
Oh, geez. He's like, what? And like, yeah, they
just start waving at him and he waves back and
the parents were just watching the date secretly
the entire time. And then they drove away with
her and he never spoke to her again. Yeah. Go
on. I think that's how it goes for a lot of dates
for her. I don't know. It was fucked up. So hard
dick, as you can tell from his name, the way
I pronounce it, hard dick. They even made a joke
about it. Good Lord. He's, like, the playboy,
right? He enjoys just, you know, fucking around,
basically. So, like, during that night of the
date where his friend was having, Hardik was,
like, basically smoking weed in, like, a meeting
room at their company with this secretary -type
character. And, obviously, like, they're about
to have sex and you had, like, this little...
Well, no, because she doesn't... She actually
doesn't want to have sex. yeah she was like just
she was just okay to kiss i guess i don't know
what she was winking about because they were
making out yeah i think yeah they were she was
okay with like making out but she didn't want
to have sex in the meeting room that's why she's
like no like he ran away and like bought the
condom he ran to get condoms and then he comes
back and she's like why like no sex like kind
of messaging the whole the whole segment where
he goes down To buy a condom and makes those
remarks. Dude, that is like high school behavior,
man. I've done that once. It reminds me of high
school, but like these are grown -ass men. But
I didn't know India carries such a large selection
of condoms. You see the guy just go on different
flavors, different textures. I think it's a good
messaging for like using a condom as well. Like,
you know, like it's, it's, it's because it's,
it's putting it on main screen that like, you
know, you're just making out and you're about
to have sex, but like have safe sex. Like take
so much time, like just instead of like having
sex, just takes so much time to go to a shop
and buy a condom. And he's such a gentleman about
it though, because he calls and asks her like,
what does she like, chocolate or strawberry?
Jesus, no. I cringe at that. So you can get the
correct flavor of condoms. Yeah. Do you guys
get nervous buying condoms? I didn't. No. Not
at all. Yeah, me neither. I had, like, bad condom
experience as well. But, yeah, that's different.
Wait, go on. Bad condom experience. Yeah, it's
like buying, like, those extra last condom. Extra
what? extra lasting like they last longer yeah
they said extra large no no extra last and they
were too small for me no and i think they have
like kind of a numbing gel that you don't orgasm
and then that was not very good oh wow you bought
them in bulk or what no no no just one and it's
but they work yeah i mean they're condoms but
i mean as in you didn't feel anything and yeah
i was like not feeling the anything so it's like
numbing jail was like i was like what the fuck
is this like i don't like it that's what extra
lasting was gonna do man yeah but i was i had
no idea like that was the first time and i was
not very experienced in like what extra lasting
i thought you meant it just like expires later
I guess I'll lose my virginity in 20 years, but
it's good to buy these now. It's a good investment.
I didn't know these existed. I thought you have
to take Viagra if you wanted to achieve that.
That doesn't necessarily help you last longer.
It just helps you get that up. Yeah. What? Viagra.
Oh. But stays up, I guess, even after you. Yeah.
Yeah. All right. What happens next? Yeah. Hardik
thought he was about to have sex with his secretary.
And then, you know, as soon as he there's like
a little bit of like hold up with buying a condom.
And so when he goes back to the office, she tells
him, no, I don't want to have sex. And then but
before anything else could happen, like their
supervisor or boss walks in on them and Hardik
tries to escape through the window. And I'm assuming
that he does. I mean, he does escape, but I think
he's out of a job. And so that, you know, he
decides to go to Goa. with his friends just to
party hard or whatever can we just talk about
the fact that he decided to jump down the building
and get caught by his boss this guy was like
half naked on the ledge of a building and just
jumps I have a question like how did the manager
guy recognize him from a tattoo on his back yeah
he had a back tattoo and recognized him from
the back tattoo maybe like facebook post or something
or like where else like a manager would see like
or maybe office party or something like that
yeah back to it right there was a they showed
how he remembered is it and i don't remember
is it also like a sexy scene in the office from
behind i remember that back yeah but that was
when you were gay that was weird right he does
he did jump out the window and then the next
shot we see him like in a cast but then they
go to go and he's like i'm perfectly okay now
his hand just healed overnight he said like my
i've broken my hands yeah like when he entered
the room yeah yeah that's it i think it's done
for laughs like we don't have to like look really
look into it it's also like dude if like you
you're jumping out the window but just ask the
girl who stayed behind who was that Just ask
her. She's still in the office with the manager.
I think it's his office as well, so he knows
who is that. No reason to jump. You're fucked.
I think this movie is also relying on the fact
that the audience is kind of high to just let
certain plot points go. And he's also high. Yeah,
and the whole character is high. Jump out the
window. Very radical sense in his head. I'll
just never go back to work, and I'll never get
fired. Yeah. How do they get to Goa? Well, that
goes to the third character, right? Bunny. The
car. Oh, yeah, Bunny. Yeah, Bunny has like a
big presentation. So you can tell that Bunny
is in a higher job position than the other two.
And apparently like he gets accepted for some
presentation and he needs to go to Goa. So then
like the group decides that, hey, let's use your
car and party our asses off. And that's how.
Yeah, they go to Goa to forget the troubles.
And I guess somewhere along the way, Love. In
Goa, meets this girl named Luna. Who, by the
way, she says she recognizes him because Love
is such a popular Facebook user. That was weird,
right? no that was like a thousand friends it
seems like a culture thing right yeah that was
very common in india like having like friends
in friend list like whom you have never met but
like it was like maybe common friend or something
facebook suggested you and then like you become
their friends on facebook so that's why like
people used to have like so many people they
never met yeah but on facebook so there was like
a term called facebook friend a lot in india
it was like that for me as well in my school
we had a lot of facebook this is 2013 so it's
like the peak of facebook yeah And he updates
everything that happens to his life on Facebook.
Yeah, like, oh, I just got broken up with. That's
also very realistic, actually. Like, the people
used to post those kind of things, like, you
know, like, motivational and, like, sad and,
like, you know, just plays, like, what music
they're playing and, like, put the link or something
like that. So that was a very common thing to
do on Facebook. And so, yeah, that felt, like,
very realistic that she knows what he's going
through even without meeting him and then suddenly
meet in Goa. And obviously love being the hopeless
romantic. He falls for Luna. Tries to really
get with her. Tries to say, hey, I'm over my
girlfriend now. After one day. After one day.
And then Luna, you know, she's not interested.
But she did mention that there's this cool underground
rave party happening in Goa. And then, you know,
that everyone should get in on it. And then.
And it's run by the Russian mafia. It's run by
the Russian. That's really important. It's run
by the Russian mafia. And so Love's like, yo,
Hardik and Bunny, let's go to this party and
get wasted. Yeah, because also Hardik is convinced
Love to get over his ex by fucking a random woman
or something. Like he's like, you got to go out
and party. That's kind of why they're going to
go. You need to get over this. I need to hide
from my job. Bunny needs to give his presentation.
So this is like all their reason for going. And
so Love is trying to do that. He's like, I want
to get with Luna. So I'm going to go to the party.
Yeah. What they didn't anticipate is that the
secret rave party that they're going to is actually
not in Goa, but like on a secluded island away
from Goa. Yeah. Right. So they have to travel
by boat. And, you know, Bunny didn't want to
go. Because he has a presentation like, oh, Bunny,
don't be a pussy. As many dude bros tend to say
and stuff like that. And yeah, they end up at
the party and we get this like. Sorry. Importantly,
they have to charter their own boat. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's true. No, no one will take them
there. So they rent their own boat and they give
Bunny's cars collateral. Yeah. And so they take
the one boat themselves to that island. yeah
and that's the last we see of the Volkswagen
car Volkswagen like pissed their money away on
that so yeah they end up on the island and you
get like this montage of like oh typical rave
party scene like you know very unrealistic what
would make it more realistic I don't know this
is maybe like things that goes on people's head
when they're high as fuck and they're thinking
like that but like if you're sober if you're
look at a rave like no i've never seen a rave
that looks like that kind of i don't know i kind
of did see it maybe in a way i don't know they
were dancing a lot they were getting high they
were like it's like girls making out like some
guy's fantasy of a rave yeah yeah maybe it's
like maybe in hedonist island or something but
yeah anyway they they're like getting all high
uh hardik is looking up with some i think it's
like a white girl or something love is trying
to get with luna and then in the midst of all
this party there's like this new drug that's
going around it's shaped like a red pill i thought
it was funny it's like red pillars and yeah that's
like you know it's it was pretty funny but like
the matrix it makes sense Yeah, everyone is like,
they're just serving it on a platter and everyone
is just hating this red pill. But it costs 5
,000 rupees. It's very expensive. Yeah. For 2013,
5 ,000, it's not everyone can afford it easily.
And that's the only reason, I think Hardik was
offered it and that's the only reason he turned
it down when he realized it cost 5 ,000. i think
like even if the drug was like thousand rupee
he couldn't have afforded it like he had like
few coins in his pocket i mean that made me laugh
that was pretty funny yeah uh yeah so they couldn't
afford it so they're like off that red pill so
what we start to notice we as the audience we
we get to see like the effects that this drug
is having everyone is just slowly like you can
tell like they're like getting high it's almost
like fentanyl type of high where they're just
standing there like all like awkward and like
shit -faced out of their heads and you know that
happened overnight they came our characters come
to and then they realize that oh to put it simply
like all the all the people who took that drug
they're now zombies yeah what's interesting is
they they say they keep calling them evil deads
Evil deads. Yeah. Which is very interesting because
like this movie is taking place in a world with
movies and zombie movies. I think from their
conversation, the point was that Indian people,
like most of them, apart from Hardik, didn't
see any zombie films. So they're not. So it's
like zombies being imported to India. Like zombies.
This film is importing zombie to India. they're
all talking about like is it vampire because
vampire is a big export okay i mean indians knows
about vampire and then like okay evil dead because
evil dead was one of the horror film that was
very popular in india and then like they're like
what is this because and then hardy is like i
think it's zombie because like other two of them
like they don't know what zombie is so that's
why they were like going one after another like
what it should could be like because zombie doesn't
come to their mind and it's interesting i mean
because a lot of zombie movies are always like
what are these things and we have to like go
you know through the beginning every single time
like they never know her what a zombie is right
and they're like how are these people you know
coming back from the dead and this is like boom
they're zombies we know what to do and i like
that and it's like we all know what zombies are
let's just skip to this but they blame foreigners
for bringing zombies in right yeah like kelly
was saying importing they call it globalization
globalization exactly yeah i think like the movie
was very self -aware yeah it's uh commentary
on things and like no we know that we are doing
this kind of way i'm gonna get into this one
scene that really like summarizes an aspect of
the movie in my opinion right it's like they
they couldn't figure out what's wrong with everyone
on the island at first right and then they meet
like this knife wielding russian dude and he
was just like speaking in russian when they could
have easily like You know, he could have explained
it in English or something. And there's no subtitles.
There's no subtitles. But I thought they asked
for it. Like, where is the subtitles? Yeah, they
even said, where are the subtitles? It was so
funny. But, like, he was trying to explain it
through, like, showing them, right? And, like,
I shit you not, I remember this scene. It's,
like, the guy literally is, like, having his
back turned. And then... All of a sudden, there's
like a zombie right behind him. And I shit you
not, I feel like everyone's situational awareness
is just not there. It's literally right there,
right behind. Like, the characters didn't even
tell the Russian to turn around or stop. It's
like the zombie just spawned right near him.
It's very video game influenced. No, but throughout
the movie, these characters are so dumb. So many
scenes I was watching, I was getting so frustrated.
Like, their intelligence extended to the fact
that they figured out it was zombies. Beyond
that, how they interacted. the zombies was so
stupid even when they tried to go and talk to
them like oh yeah she was my love last night
let me try to talk to her oh yeah that was so
dumb i think the film draws a lot of comedy elements
of just to these main two characters being dumb
like i like the fact like where where the these
two main characters whoever they are mocking
in some point of the in the film actually comes
up with actual solutions and like actual like
results with actions like the girl kills the
the first zombie uh like bunny finds out like
how to kill the zombie like de -arm the zombies
so it's like and these two people being hero
and then there is also this self -aware joke
like bunny makes like you guys are like hero
and then you will be live but i am like this
sidekick character of a friend like i'm gonna
die and like you all think he dies at one moment
it's dumb and dumber yeah there's that steve
jobs quote on the wall in their office where
he says what have we what he says what do we
know and what have we learned and they keep like
using that in the movie and the very first time
they're like what do we know and what have we
learned like well we know nothing where we learned
shit and that kind of sums up their whole journey
in the movie it is a stoner comedy linkedin post
yeah they use a linkedin quote to like guide
their experience because they just know nothing
So instead of, like, escaping the island, Love,
being the hero that he is, sees, like, this flare
in a secluded house up on the hill, and he believes
it's Luna, so then they decide to rescue her,
of course. And that's when Luna joins, right?
And not just that, they meet, you know, the shining
star, right? They meet Boris and Nikolai, two
Russian mobsters that are, like, trying to, like...
exterminate everyone in their path trying to
get out of the island alive and let's just talk
about boris the character uh you know he's like
he says a lot of one -liners there's like some
dumb one -liners yeah there's this one that i
can remember right away it's so like it made
me cringe and laugh at the same time it's like
they he sneaks up on a car and the fucking zombie
is like tied to the seat belt and so the the
zombie cannot get him and he says Seatbelts do
save lives. Our lives. And I'm like, oh, my God.
He even does, like, groaner Russian jokes and
stuff. He also said, like, I'll be back. Like,
Arnold style, I'll be back. This guy's having
a blast. I mean, this guy's super fun. I would
watch, like, The Boris Adventures if I could.
Yeah, again, like, a PSA in the film. So many
PSAs in the film. Like, use seatbelts, use condoms,
like, don't do drugs. Oh, nice. I love this.
So, yeah, Boris is, like, not. russian as we
we are led to believe he's actually you know
indian and he did explain like he said yeah he's
from delhi yeah and stuff and at first we thought
he was gonna be like this asshole is gonna fuck
them over but no he's kind of like uh he's like
the badass of the group and they keep letting
him down yeah like he has good ideas and they
should go like help him and like he goes to secure
a car and they can't even like get the boat like
we said because arctic like wants to go talk
to this girl he tried to fuck the night before
or my favorite is when he gives them guns and
he's like be careful like one bullet one zombie
we have to be like economical about this and
they just like see one zombie and spew all the
bullets and do not even kill the zombie that
that scene was very representative of how dumb
this duo is and very 2013 they're like no we
know how to use guns we play call of duty oh
my god they made a call to reference oh my god
that's so gamer right there it's such a gamer
thing to say and it's like Yeah, like what Winnie
said, like he actually tries to teach them to
shoot. And the scene where he like yells at them
in Russian for wasting so much ammo. I feel a
little sense of satisfaction, like fucking fuckers,
you deserve that. He was basically like, I would
kill you both, but I don't want to waste my bullets
on you. He doesn't refill their bullets for like
the whole night. That's why they don't have any
guns against the zombies. Winnie did point out
he looks like a customized Tekken character.
I think he looks like the male version of Nina
because he's always carrying a gun. He's this
blonde guy. And he's, yeah, he just reminded
me of male Nina. But Nina is actually Kili's
love and character. So, I don't know. Do you
think that's, like, accurate? Yeah, I didn't
see Nina in him, though. But, yeah, I can understand.
So, you know, they meet Boris, right? And Boris
does explain what the drug is. The drug is supposed
to be, like, basically the party they're going
to is supposed to be a testing. testing ground
to try out this drug. What's the name of the
drug? It's called D2RF. D2RF, like down to...
Down to rave. Down to rave and fuck. It was red
pill, but I think on the montage when people
were taking, I thought... I saw people like splitting
the pill and taking the drug from inside and
it was like a white powder. Were they like snorting
the powder inside the drug? Or like putting in
some drink. I don't remember exactly what scene
this was, but like I remember seeing that like
they opened the capsule and then it was like.
Some white kind of whitish powder in it. Wouldn't
it be funny if the drug sucked, and all these
people paid a lot of money, and they're just,
like, puking, and, like, everyone's, like, sides
are hurting. It's just, like, everyone wakes
up in the morning, and there's just, like, blood
and vomit everywhere instead. I mean, isn't that
exactly what happened? Well, yeah, it's just
not. With a bad drug? It doesn't feel good is
my point. Well, so he explains that this drug
is supposed to give users the ultimate high.
It's a better high than MDMA, than cocaine. ecstasy
everything you name it supposed to give the ultimate
high but upon finding out that people take it
you know when people take it it's they cannot
handle the high so then it blows their brains
up and turns them into mush turns them into zombies
and they figure he figured out that they're not
eating people it's that flesh gives them the
high flesh is their Is there drug? Whoa. I'm
like, okay. Blood. Blood is their life force.
Yeah. So that's when you know that it's too good
to be true. When they try to tell you it's better
than coke, MDMA, ecstasy, don't fall for that.
This movie is very anti -designer drug. Yeah.
They just want your meat and potatoes, mom and
pop drugs. Stick to those. Stick to the stuff
from the earth. Well, back in 2013, I think designer
drugs were not nearly as big as they are today.
Yet. The movie is quite ahead of its time. Yeah,
yeah. A lot of people would say that. A lot of
people are saying that. More and more people
are saying that. It predicts about Red Pill.
I don't think it did because The Matrix literally
did that in 1999. No, but that was like a totally
good way. Like Red Pill makes you aware of things
and they're like... That's what the Red Pill,
that's what the MRA people think they're doing.
Yeah, but from an outsider's perspective, Red
Pill makes you a zombie. When we talk about in
pop culture, Red Pill references, Red Pill makes
you kind of a brain dead. So this is what happens
in the film. Red Pills kind of make them kind
of brain dead. Movie's ahead of its time. Movie's
super ahead of its time. Pre -Fentanyl. I feel
like that is something you say when you're really
stoned. What if it's an allegory for Red Pills?
I told Winnie, there's that movie. What's that
movie with Bradley Cooper? With the drugs. Oh,
Limitless. Limitless. It's a really stupid movie,
though, because. I like that movie. It's stupid
because he gets the pills and then the plot of
the movie is he runs out and then quickly has
to try to find out where to get the new pills
from. Right. But like, literally, if you take
a pill and it makes you smarter, the first thing
you're going to do is like, where do I get more?
yeah right like if you're a crack addict like
literally your first thought is how do i get
more this will run out and he's somehow like
incredibly smart and doesn't understand like
finite amount of capsules will mean he can't
take anymore and it's a surprise to him fuck
that doesn't make any sense You can't be smart
if you don't understand that like one day you'll
have zero of these and you are surprised. Yeah.
And that's why the zombies in this movie. Anyways,
go on. Sorry. So where were we? Luna is basically
like, you know, taking a rest and love wants
to check up on her. Oh, gosh. And then it's like
the most cringiest scene ever because he's like.
He's like thinking that there's a moment. This
is the third time now. Yeah. There's been two
other moments he's whiffed on where like he's
gone for a move and she's like, no, that's not
it. And so there's been two times where he screwed
this up. And also what's funny is because in
that moment, he came to apologize about the other
two moments when he tried to make a move. And
at the end, she's like, OK, he's like. Trying
to, like, wait. He's like, well, is this not
a moment? So, of course, he did not mean his
apology at all. He keeps trying to fuck her.
She keeps completely calling him out for it.
I think that's really funny, though. It's, like,
kind of clever. Like, I feel like it parallels
some guys who don't get the hint. Like, men and
women can't be friends kind of mentality. And
also, just, you know, know your... You can ask.
She'll tell you. You know, like I do like the
communication she has. You know, she puts up
with this a lot because she's hot. And so all
these guys are just constantly hitting on her.
And Hardik is, by the way, hitting on her this
entire time as well. So like when he was done.
OK, so it's not the moment. So he leaves her
alone. And then Hardik comes in and he was like
trying to get his way with her by saying like
bragging about how many the body count. Two to
three hundred. Two to three hundred. What a loser.
What a loser. And then we get this quick scene
where he just bursts down into tears. And he
explains that the excuse was that he can't get
over this love of his life. Who, by the way,
I looked up the woman that appears in the flashback.
It's actually his wife in real life. She was
in Rang the Basanti. The dead pilot's wife. That
is her. It's all connected. She ditched him and
then went with the pilot. He's trying to explain
that. Did you feel like that was a lie? Do you
feel like he was making up a story for her and
he used that excuse with a bunch of other women?
We don't know actually. He tried to get with
her using like the sympathy card he tried to
immediately get with her after that story so
i do feel like he's just rehearsed this maybe
yeah but yeah like he's trying to do sympathy
cards she rebuffs him and i think i like the
whole scene is because like i was actually thinking
that oh maybe she'll like fall for one of them
for rescuing her but no none of that actually
happens she just rebuffs them and they're like
just friends but what i find really confusing
about this whole thing is usually you see this
bro code being quite strong between two friends
especially when they're as close as hardik and
love are you know there's kind of like this bros
before hoes and it's very clear that love is
in love with luna right like he goes this whole
rave because he wants to chase her but hardik
has no problem like you know hitting on luna
the moment he sees her because he realizes how
hot she is and so they're just kind of competing
where he even tells love like just because you
saw her first like doesn't mean you get admissions
into it yeah i know this is like so basic but
his arc hardik's arc is learning about consent
i'm not like at the end of the movie he finally
says like you know when we need to make sure
the women agree with him and stuff. Like, he
learns about consent in this movie. Because the
zombie chases him. Yeah. And he realizes what
he does with women. It's crazy. It's crazy, but
I'm not kidding. His arc is just learning about
consent. It's very weird. Yeah. Yeah, that's...
wow at least he learns i feel like we're going
too deep but maybe it's not that deep it's a
nice because okay okay yeah go on because we
all said this director's other films are like
very serious and characters have an arc and i
definitely like i think when they made a comedy
like they made sure that characters have these
things and there's like yeah metaphors and stuff
yeah but in a funny way always in a funny way
never became like too much serious into it yeah
The film doesn't take itself very seriously.
Right, right. But it does this fun and digs.
So yeah, then I think at some point, Boris comes
back and we find out the personal business was
just a bunch of cocaine. And before Boris comes
back, there is a zombie attack in the house and
they had to run away from the house. And that's
only the girl first kills the zombie. And then
you remember the scene where Bunny was sleeping
in the living room. Yeah, Bunny can sleep. And
then like the zombie was attacking. And then
it's like these two guys was like just like couldn't
do anything proper. Just so dumb. Just like,
you know, covering him with the zombie with the
bed shit. And then like it's the girl who had
to like. hit him on the head and kill the zombie.
Wait, they cover him in the bed sheet and then
they both jump on him. So there's these two guys
straggling on this zombie. He's so stupid. He's
like, no plan. He's like, what's the plan next?
He's like, I don't know what to do. And then
Bunny's just asleep through this entire trail.
You ever hear about soaking? How Mormons have
sex when they both lay on the bed and the friends
jump around them so that they do penetration
without... them moving their own bodies what
i heard of it i forgot the term soaking i've
never heard of that but there are a lot of like
almost like gayish dynamics between hardik and
love and you know based in dostana if you get
dostana with zombies man that's kind of it but
it's not really seen as gay it's just like they
love each other because they're best friends
they're like brothers almost but like at one
point they're hugging each other and i think
bunny walks in and bunny is always like yeah
i've always been confused about you guys yeah
i remember that yeah Anyway, Boris comes back
and... We're all having gay fantasies in our
head of them all having a four -way. And there's
maybe a zombie joins. Luna just watches. Before
Boris comes back, they were fleeing and then
that's the part where Keeley mentions how Bunny
was pointing out that he's going to be the side
character that dies. And sure enough, when they're
escaping the house, they had... They had this
idea to pretend to be the zombies? Yeah. I think
that was fucking stupid, man. Like, what? What
kind of logic is that? Like, pretend to be zombies
and suddenly, like, they don't notice you? But
in the defense, it was working if he didn't talk
to his ex -girlfriend there. Like, zombie of
his ex -girlfriend. It was kind of working. Like,
he was... He assimilated in the zombie group
and he was, like, following them for a bit and
then he couldn't... Which stopped him, so...
If he was doing those movements outside of that,
he would have been cancelled because he looks
like he's, like, making fun of, like, an R -word
person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. R -word
person. I don't know. Thomas. thing ever especially
able people but yeah they they were running away
and then like bunny inadvertently ends up in
a tent yeah and the gang sees presumably sees
him getting getting eaten up by a crowd of zombies
they meet they meet boris and boris comes back
and it turns out that he has a lot of cocaine
I feel like we completely did a scenic route
back to Boris having cocaine. Well, the cocaine
plays a pretty important role. It's very important.
It gets really important. It really is very important.
Have you seen the movie Signed? And then just
when the characters were so devastated losing
their innocent bunny hopping friend, they get
a call from him. It turns out Bunny is alive.
They need to rescue him. I think the rescue comes
first before the explanation, right? Yeah. I
think so, yeah. So, for whatever reason, Bunny
is on top of this, like, tower? Like, a watchtower?
Yeah. And then, like, we have to get... rescue
bunny but the thing that threw me off so much
is like hardik decides to climb up to the tower
i don't understand like what what like how does
that even make sense like you climb up and rescue
your friend and then how are you gonna get out
of the tower it made no sense it's just one of
those many like stupid things that the characters
do there was one time i was here in bangkok with
an ex -girlfriend who was an american ex -girlfriend
who was visiting me and We were in a taxi with
a crazy taxi driver who was like smoking meth
or something. He was just very erratic and like
dangerous. And that constantly we were trying
to be like, should we get out of the cab? Should
we get out of the cab? And then he finally gets
to some stop like near a hotel and we just run
out. I was like, for some reason, I just didn't
want to pay him because I was being cheap and
mean. But we run in through a parking lot garage
at the hotel and the guards are chasing us and
we're looking over. ledge and at one point I
almost like jumped off the ledge with her to
escape paying like a hundred baht to the sex
driver. Drugs was a very influential part of
this decision making is my point. Was it coke?
That was just bleeding out of the wall actually.
And then like they did jump off the tower. They
did. This is the second time. I think on the
tower he explains like how he was alive to to
uh hardik i guess right or he does it afterwards
i don't remember but like the explanation is
basically like when he ends up in the tent there
was another guy that was just hiding out and
it's that guy that died that's it that's really
funny no but he finds finds out like how to stop
the zombies accidentally so that connects the
story later so he finds out that if he you throw
like cocaine too on these zombies and then like
somehow these zombies are stopping like they're
not attacking anymore they're just becoming stand
still so that's how you escape so that then like
they tell this thing to Boris so that Boris can
do that. But it's so funny that he does discover
that when you throw cocaine at them, it immobilizes
them. But I don't know the science behind it.
It's like you throw powder at them and they're
like, oh. Well, he mentioned because they are
technically on drugs, right? That's how they
became zombies. That if you mix certain drugs,
then it will create a different sensation. So
he just decided to throw cocaine because that's
what was available and it worked. They're overwhelmed,
I think. Boris explained that this might be the
case. Boris brought the explanation that it might
be double effects and side effects of each other
and then they're just becoming this thing. It's
quite ironic because when you do cocaine, usually
from what I hear, it energizes you. It wakes
you up. Probably because we're alive, but because
these zombies are technically dead, maybe it
has the opposite effect as it would have on humans
and just completely like... It's a downer instead
of an upper. I think all they wanted was like
drugs. Like after the dose of the red drugs,
the red pill drug, like all they wanted was to
get high and Coke gave them the ultimate kick
and they're like, okay, we are contented in ourselves
now. But Coke is a weird one to do because it's
like five minutes of contentment and then like
they should be rushing at them again. Yeah, I
mean, they left by that time. They didn't stop
and watch like what they do afterwards. Yeah,
like Boris is chucking like 10 ,000, dollars
worth of cocaine like clay pigeons into the air
and they shoot it with a shotgun and the cocaine
sprays everywhere down like confetti and it like
stops all the zombies in their tracks I was kind
of singing like it's raining coke it's raining
coke great song great bachelorette song is it
a real song or you wrote it it's usually it's
raining men but in this movie it was just raining
coke yeah that's the better rain is that better
yeah okay Raining men would kill the men. Yeah,
that's a super good point. It's dangerous. So
yeah, Boris has a lot of coke. And now he doesn't
have a lot of coke. He just got rid of it. And
I was like, I rolled my eyes because like, of
course, that's how we show that we lose the drugs.
You know, you can never be a bad person at the
same time as a good person. Well, they still
do weed at the end. Okay, but still. Weeds aren't
a drug. They blow weed. Yeah. And the movie frames
it that way, because they say, like, it becomes
a big say no to drugs, but then at the end, they're
all smoking weed. It's a weird, like, pro -weed,
anti -drug movie. Because they're like, yeah,
cocaine, pills, all this stuff is bad, but weed,
we're going to make a whole song about it. Are
y 'all saying this because, you know, the Prime
Minister is pro -weed? That's the only reason.
No, but that's great news. That has been, like,
a very prominent, like a... thing in india like
weed is okay like our generation like no hard
drugs like they were like i never did anything
in india and i was like smoking weed all the
time and it was very common you just don't see
it in film a lot when the gang was reunited with
boris and nikolai to the rescue nikolai gets
bit yeah and then like they there's like this
quick sad moment where they decide to leave him
stranded away from the car, the jeep, and then,
like, Nikolai says, like, give me the vodka,
of course, because he's Russian. And then, like,
so after they rescued Bunny, right, the final
boss is, like, a zombified version of Nikolai.
Yeah. And he was, like, on top of the tower.
And good lord, as he was about to jump and attack
Boris, we get, like, this ridiculous action moment.
They throw, the gang throws a rocket launcher.
oh my god yeah i forgot boris just like shoots
the rocket to nicolai and just like he just goes
up and then boom i was like oh my god it's a
straight up after effects explosion yeah like
in the middle of nowhere some guy just like pasted
a gif of like an explosion in the air no when
when nicolai left like i thought like he's gonna
kill himself because before becoming a zombie
that's a common trope in zombie films like right
like like people friends who get beaten like
so i thought that but like they brought him back
and then made that scene yeah awesome very quick
scene which also it reminds me of zombie land
because they had like that clown at the very
end they did there was a clown it it did feel
like that scene They were fighting the final
boss. But we can all agree that we kind of saw
Nikolai's death coming, right? Because throughout
the movie, like the movie makes no effort to
center on his character. You don't get any kind
of emotional attachment to him. Nothing. He was
like one of those disposable characters from
the beginning. He's actually Russian. So nobody
cares. He's not Indian. We can kill him. Boris
was talking to him in Russian. So I want to know,
badass. But he did say to Nikolai, like, what
did he say? Did he say dasvidanya or some shit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, like, there was one point
of dialogue I remember because most of the time
he was talking about Nikolai. But he was never,
like, talking to him a lot. But I remember seeing
some scenes. Maybe it's, like, not always. Maybe
he spoke English to him at one point. But I remember
seeing him, like, talking, like, Russian. to
Nikolai but I don't know like how good that was
that's why I was asking like if anyone knows
did you notice when they whenever the characters
speak Russian and the subtitles do come up yeah
the font is like it's a different Russianized
very Russianized I love that I love that when
they do that stuff that's fun that was really
fun yeah okay anyway so they killed Nikolai and
they managed to like secure a boat after like
having a quick little funny scene with this woman
please please go into this scene because it took
me off guard like i was like what is going on
i hated okay i personally didn't like that scene
so the boat that they need to secure it's being
occupied by the woman that hardik slept with
the night before and they need her to get off
the boat somehow right and hardik has to like
Sweet talker? Well, Boris is ready to shoot her,
but they still want to show humanity to a zombie,
so obviously they have not gotten any smarter
throughout the movie. And so he tries to sweet
talk her out of the boat, and you get this whole
scene where she's chasing him in the woods. And
at first I'm like, what the fuck's going on?
I thought it was serious. And all of a sudden
they end up at a tree, and you get this classic
Bollywood scene where they just take turns going
on opposite sides. putting their heads out on
the opposite side of the tree and never meeting.
And that's when you realize that this scene is
actually just mocking Bollywood song scenes.
Yeah. It's a parody. What happens to her? They
just let... They distracted her and then got
on the boat. Oh, she lives? She lives and she
kind of watches the boat go off into the shore.
Yeah, that was a clear nod and like making fun
of like classic Bollywood dance sequence around
the trees. I remember even my film school teacher
like once told me like I was I went to like his
graduation film script that was I was writing
at that point of time. And I showed him and he's
like, why is your script are always so depressed
and dark? You should have some love in your life
and run around dance around. trees like that's
what exactly so it's like a very common reference
to make fun of in like you know you should like
fall in love and dance around trees like that's
like a thing people say as well when i was in
calcutta at that i told you like the what's that
victoria memorial park the victoria memorial
park you go there and it's just all these couples
making out next to trees yeah everyone's hiding
behind a tree making out and being handsy it
was like i was just walking around the daytime
being shocked by just everyone hiding behind
a tree it's it's a real trope and also hardik
learns to do consent with the zombie like that's
the one time when he's like let's not hurt her
or kill her like let's be nice and like ask her
politely like that's the one time you could kill
her and it has nothing to do with the fact that
if he touches her he'll literally become a zombie
that's definitely not a deterrent at all no correct
but okay like now that being said right they
did secure the boat and on the way to the to
go all right this is the scene that really took
me out maybe i didn't see it coming maybe because
i was stoned off my ass watching this but they
were like having a moment of reflection and then
the characters are like what do we learn and
oh my god the moral message it hits so it's right
into your face drugs are bad my god man i should
have seen it coming man i think we see it coming
when we find the cocaine they find the cocaine
and boris jokingly asks like you guys want some
and then hardik and lava already like no not
after the pills kind of vibe and then but they
you know that was more discreet you gotta read
into it but at that end scene when they're like
say no to drugs it becomes so obvious this was
just a dare movie all along exactly it was there
the whole time and like the the whole zombies
getting like people getting zombified it's like
an allegory or like a metaphor of them getting
high it was like barely because they take the
drug and become a zombie it's like barely an
allegory it's pretty on the nose I was a little
too preachy for my taste. I mean, after this
movie, you're definitely not taking random pills
at a party. It will make you think twice. But
then you're more likely to go to a party because
they make the rave look quite fun. Yeah, I guess
not. I guess I won't do that anymore. Yeah, no
powder. The last part. Okay, they made it to
Goa. And then what did they find? The whole city
is in ruins. And then you get like a cliffhanger.
It's like, yeah. sequel hook also there is a
sequel in the making they announced this last
year but there is no confirmation about the release
date go go a gone 2 just a regular sequel I read
it's in a production limbo so like maybe things
going around like remember sarpata has like a
sequel toomba has a sequel why is it true why
does everything need a sequel man but also a
lot of these sequels don't seem to materialize
or take a very long time to come out go go gone
sounds like it would be a it can be a fun sequel
for sure it would be fun yeah but toomba too
please sarpata too oh my god but koimi got a
sequel in a superhero film philosophy corner
No, I wanted to say the zombie thing, right?
Like, in the movie, they bring up, like, you
talked about Killy. Like, they're trying to figure
out who these monsters are. And they're like,
is it zombies? Is it vampires and stuff? So the
movie's pretty aware of, like, these different
tropes. And they're right. Like, it is a Western
thing. And when they said we imported these zombies
due to globalism, like, my ears perked up. Because,
like, yes, traditionally. You have the zombie
genre, right? And the vampires are genre. And
they're both very strong, like Western anxieties.
The vampire trope is like elitist, right? Like
they live in these castles, they hoard wealth,
they live forever, and they live off the blood
of like peasants and stuff, right? And there's
just a few of them. So it's this fear of like
these elites controlling everything and being
like an unkillable force that just eats off,
you know. the lower classes. And then the zombies
are like a middle -class anxiety of immigrants
and people coming like the, the dirty unwashed
masses and how if they get close enough to them,
they will get sucked in and be removed from the
middle class and be thrown into the unwashed
masses. Like that's why when you see like the
early zombie films, they did take place in malls
and stuff. It's like homes and third spaces for
suburban people. And they're getting run over
and taken over by these like masses. Right. So.
in this movie when they're saying the zombies
are being imported what they're referring to
is they're they've taken on because of globalization
this anxiety as well of foreigners so it's specifically
like goa and the tourist industry is creating
this kind of immigrant population that's like
sucking off the land right And what's really
interesting is the Boris character because he
is actually a zombie character. He says his blood
has been transfused with vodka. He is an Indian
character that got zombified by an outside influence,
which is Russia, changed his whole appearance.
He gets saved at the end. He's the one zombie
that's able to come back and get his identity
back. uh tourism that makes them prey on the
locals as well like they these these people from
mumbai go to goa and they along with like the
russian mafia are preying on like the native
goa population because that's like the the zombie
curse right they start eating each other alive
and so the fear isn't like necessarily drugs
because they're smoking weed the whole time and
they have a song about weed their fear is imported
drugs it's the the not natural like drugs coming
in from other countries right that's the thing
they're worried about so what they have to get
rid of all the cocaine because that's imported
but if they stick to the weed that comes from
india they're fine right it's a fear of the outside
so that's that's kind of like what i took from
like the whole tourism goa aspect of the zombies
thinking my money made your country i don't know
i mean yeah like that's you know you get these
like rich you know white people coming in just
you know taking over the land and partying and
stuff and spending all this extra money and they're
just brainless zombies that you have to serve
them and if you want to join their ranks you
have to also start acting like that to the native
population too and it's it'll wreck your brain
i mean it's really close it's close to home for
me or maybe for you as well when right it's infested
by you know white people taking drugs and partying
on the island and being entitled and you know
it's what you're i guess it's related to what
you're saying yeah and if you're a thai person
joining them you are partaking in the same type
of like wreckage of that culture taking advantage
of it even if you don't want to but that is seen
as like a class symbol you know and if you want
to blend in you have to tear each other apart
that's the zombie aspect is now you're eating
each other alive because of this i think this
movie was way ahead of its time though because
in the sense that 10 15 10 12 years ago when
this movie was made we probably hadn't reached
the point yet where you would openly compare
like a drug user a heavy drug user to a zombie
i think what like aligns the anxiety of the zombies
with the fear of drugs is like it could happen
to your kid you know like zombies, you know,
the fear of zombies come in your proximity and
you or your family members get lost to them.
And same with drug use, right? Like you have
like a white collar son and then they get sucked
into that world and then that's it, right? It
taps into the same anxiety. What are your thoughts,
Nikki? I don't know why you're singling me out,
man. I was just like nodding in agreement. Yeah.
Anything else? Zombies. I realized, did you know
the zombies comes from Haitian people? I was
just reading on zombie media for this podcast.
Another factor, if you read some of the zombie
stories, like I Am Legend. Will Smith made a
movie about it, but it changed the ending. But
the real I Am Legend story is the zombies eventually
populate the world so much that the lone survivor
human is... the freak now like he is the outside
force the zombies have fully acclimated and they're
the primary uh living things there and that's
also part of the big fear especially like with
immigrants and stuff is you know you hear those
like lies about like white you know declining
birth rates or whatever but like that's the fear
is like they will come and take over and then
i will be the weird one instead of the majority
and so i think yeah people get have huge anxiety
about a culture encroaching on them and and they're
they're The weird ones now. Wait, are you referring
to, like, white replacement theory? Yeah. It's
the same thing. Of, like, because there's more
of them, there's less of us. Like, there's a
zero -sum game or something. But they're not
zombies. They're people. Yeah. Right. Right.
There we go. Boom. Full circle. You're afraid
of Red Pillars. We're just stone, and we're like,
ah. Genius. So deep. And when they bite someone,
they might turn into Red Pillars themselves.
All right. Staircase moment. I guess when the
movie just turns into a zombie movie, other being
a rom -com, it starts kind of as a rom -com in
some sorts. And then all of a sudden, everyone
turns into zombies. I was reading a lot of the
reviews and it seems like what critics were saying
was that it was very engaging and interesting
in the first half. And in the second half, it's
just about them trying to survive a zombie apocalypse.
I think that's how zombie films are usually.
I think they work on the trope. Right, right.
I think for me, the staircase moments was like
when I found out that Bunny is alive. No, I wasn't
that sure. Yeah, I kind of saw that coming. What
about Boris? Boris is Indian? I think we're all
mispronouncing his name because he clearly spends
a minute in the movie teaching us how to pronounce
his name. And it's more like Boris. Boris. Oh,
Boris. Yeah, something like that. We should call
our friend. We have a friend whose name like
that. Boris. Boris. Boris. Yeah, that was wild
to me when he's like, I'm Indian. I just dyed
my hair. I think that's my staircase moment.
It didn't go anywhere from there. We just accepted
that he's Indian. That's it. There was nothing
to it. What a fun role. Dance floor claws? Well,
there's an end credit song where it's all like...
You love that song. I love that song. I love
that song. I just didn't think that... Okay,
maybe from my, like, narrow -minded view, I didn't
think there would be an Indian song that, like,
is very pro -wee. I know, I love it. I didn't
see that coming. And you can tell, like, the
way it's sung, the way it's, like, structured,
it's like they're just having a good time. Like,
just... There are many songs, but I haven't heard
much in Bollywood. Like, there are many songs
from bands, like, from independent artists about
weed. Like, there are so much. India is big on
weed. Like, so many songs about weed. But, like,
never heard... Oh, no, no, there are. There are.
What am I talking about? Sorry. Mainstream songs.
There are, like, in 80s, 70s, 80s, all the hippie
crime. And then, like, there are films... Okay,
weed songs have been very popular in Bollywood.
Sorry. My staircase moment is Killy. Just figuring
out that there are so many weed songs in Bollywood.
Backing off that claim. But my favorite dance
scene is when the zombie lady is chasing him
and they have a whole tree moment. I'd say that
was pretty epic and really weird. In Evil Dead,
there's a tree rape scene that they have seen
because it's in both of them. But I'd say this
is more of playing to the Bollywood trope. It
came out very, very cliche. Family feud factor.
There wasn't any extended family, was there?
There was no family. They were roommates, if
I call them family. They had a lot of family.
A lot of brotherly dynamic, for sure. and then
like yeah they they they were using and abusing
bunny the whole time and then when only they
think that he has died they come into senses
that how they have been exploiting this poor
guy wait we should just point out when at that
point when they think that he is dead and they're
really sad about it for a minute and then they're
like well if he was alive he would be stuck at
that stupid ass meeting yeah yeah they act like
they saved him from being at that dumb meeting
that was gonna give him a huge promotion and
stuff like no that was good they still don't
understand understand the importance of attending
a meeting. But that's also how much this movie
probably hates corporate, I guess, because they're
really consoling themselves about his death just
by saying death is better than being at that
work meeting. For him, speaking for him. Bunny
has huge younger brother energy. Yeah. It's like
workaholics. Definitely. I just think about it,
the show. Yeah. It's like workaholics. Yeah,
they took that. There's a bunch of idiots at
an office job. Anyway. Regional heat check. Kili,
I've never been to Goa. I've been to Goa, but
I haven't partied hard, that hard, though, to
know, like, how the party is. You gotta combine
your, so you combine coping on with your knowledge
of Goa. I think it is kind of accurate, like,
you know, going on the off island to have a party,
like, which will, like, stay, last for, like,
three nights, and then the... there won't be
any vessel, any like ferry to the mainland for
three, 72 hours. That was like huge. And not
a ton of Indians, a lot of white people. Oh yeah.
It really reminds me of Gopang. And it, I, when
I watched that underground rave scene, it really
does remind me of this. particular party on the
island it's very similar like eden island eden
yeah it reminds me of eden it's like uh it's
it's in a secluded smaller island people are
just getting like all high dancing all night
all out to the morning out to the sunrise it's
very similar i like how you can go to eden it's
either you hike and go and or you can like take
a boat and go to the it's a beach like kopangan
eden is a beach my my colleague from work she
went to aiden very recently and she said that
before she got on the boat the guy that was tending
the boat said that the boat before them fucking
capsized and everyone fucking died what the fuck
yeah it literally happened you don't hear about
this on the news i don't know but like it literally
said they capsized she said and she said she
really swore by it that people actually died
that day yeah you see because you don't hike
there at night you only take a boat at night
and that's usually when people go when they want
an after party because that will stay till the
morning and yeah i've heard so many times people
saying that like oh we went it was like such
a bad weather or like something happened this
happened why don't they wear life jackets but
we didn't you you do wear life jackets i wore
life jackets but the trip to that secluded island
it gets really rocky like my There was a girl
I was seeing in the past and she actually talked
to me about her experience to Eden. And it's
actually, it was very, she said she thought she
was going to die. Cause like the boat was just
like rocking back and forth really widely. So
it does happen. It's like pleasure Island with
Pinocchio instead of turning into asses or doggies,
they're zombies. Sexy. Yeah, it's more sexy than
Pinocchio. I wasn't turned on by the donkeys
either. So the movie tells you the moral. Say
no to drugs. Say no to drugs. Except weed. Here's
a big song about weed. Do weed. Weed's cool.
Weed's from the ground. Importantly, weed is
from this country and we're nationalistic and
we don't allow outside drugs. Oh my goodness.
It's very explicit, guys. Well, I give this movie
a 5 out of 5. You said this was the best film
you've seen. I think this was one of the best
movies we've watched for the podcast. It was
such an easy watch. It was funny. I was on the
edge of my seat the whole time with all those
zombie chase scenes. Watch it while you're high.
It will enhance the experience. I mean, the characters
are high throughout the film, so you might as
well get on their level. It's an hour and 40
minutes. One of the shortest Indian movies. It's
great. Highly recommend. It's an easy watch.
I was really punching the air because I feel
like... During graduation, we were watching a
lot of these kinds of movies like Zombieland
and Shot of the Dead and stuff. And I feel like,
oh man, if my friends were more accepting of
other cultures, I think this movie would have
been on the list, man. For sure. It's such a
great, such a fun film to watch. It's super fun.
It's not that corny. The special effects are
great. It's filmed well. It doesn't look like
it's cheaply made besides that one After Effects
explosion. It's done very well. And it holds
up like any Western movie. I really liked it.
Kelly, what do you think of it? Because you watched
this film before and you recommended it. Yeah,
but I remember not being such fond of this film.
Maybe like I was not into zombie. Like I didn't
watch Shaun of the Dead at that point. Like I
didn't watch any proper zombie films, like even
comedy or like the old school zombie. Didn't
watch much. So for me, maybe like it was kind
of a whack because in my head, zombies like are.
people like this supernatural done by virus or
something and then like suddenly drugs and i
was like oh it's preaching too hard about bad
about drugs but like later when i saw more zombie
films and saw how diverse zombies are and like
the culture of zombie then i i think now when
i watched i really loved it i also think it's
because you came to thailand and became a degenerate