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Why are they called Tiffins? Tiffin is an English

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word. What does it mean? I think it's used in

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British English. It's old British English. Yeah.

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It's British. That's why. It's British. Yeah,

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you Americans. No, wait. It says South Asian

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English word. Tiffin. Cambridge says tiffin noun

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old use or Indian English. A small meal, especially

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one that you eat in the middle of the day. See,

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it's an Indian English word. Here it is. In the

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British Raj, tiffin was used to denote the British

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custom of afternoon tea that had been supplanted

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by the Indian practice of having a light meal

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at that hour. It is derived from tiffing, an

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English colloquial term meaning to take a little

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drink. By 1867, it had become naturalized among

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Anglo -Indians in northern India. Welcome to

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Fear of Saras, Desi Films Decoded, the podcast

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where four friends from different backgrounds

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unlock the world of Desi cinema. I'm Winnie,

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the Desi who's never been to India. Hey, I'm

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Kili. I'm from India. And I love films. And I

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have a cat. My name is Nikki, and I'm a formerly

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happy fat kid. So you're a currently sad fat

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kid? I guess so. Fat adult. I'm Adam. I'm the

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American movie buff, and today I learned about

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Dabba Wallah's... Delivery men. Tiffin boys.

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Tiffin boys. Nikki, you could have said, like,

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I'm Nikki. I'm the guy who bring Dabba's to the

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podcast. Nikki made food. He made very, very

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delicious Thai food and then put it in a never

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-before -used tiffin box, and it was lovely.

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He brought a dabba to the dabba podcast. Yes.

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He's been to Dabba Dabba Island. And we all learned

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today that Nikki can cook. Yeah, you've been

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holding that secret bag for a while, too. I feel

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like I've mentioned it in the past, but I feel

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like there was a sense of like... non -believing

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oh yeah because you've never done it before once

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so of course not what is the tiffin box can we

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explain first before so it's very prominent in

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india as you'll soon find out but also in southeast

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asia uh tiffin boxes are basically like lunch

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boxes but they're like stacked together in layers

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and then you use that you know transport food

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so why did you choose this movie and what is

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it killy Okay, so today's film is Stanley Ka

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Dabba. So I was thinking of like doing a podcast

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on a kid's film. And recently, Amir Khan came

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up with this film with Sitarizamin Par, which

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is like a spiritual sequel of Tarizamin Par,

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which is a really good film. Tarizamin Par is

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about a dyslexic kid, but whatever, I'm diverting.

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So I thought, like, we have done so many of Amir

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Khan's films. But Taraz Amir Khan was written

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by Amol Gupte. And I thought, like, okay, why

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don't we watch some other films by him? And then

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I saw, like, sadly, I didn't watch it before.

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But anyway, so I saw this film, Stanley Kadabba,

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which is like a kid's film. And he loves working

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with kids. And then it was... uh well reviewed

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uh people have said good things about it and

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i had a gut feeling that it might be interesting

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to watch it well actually there was another reason

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why we picked it we were gonna pick this one

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other one other movie which we don't i'm not

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gonna mention because that's spoiler alert we'll

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do it at some point but we wanted to find a shorter

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alternative rather than like watch like a three

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-hour epic movie yeah so we you googled like

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movies that are an hour and a half and that luckily

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showed up but yeah but but seriously though uh

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we we did the right thing i enjoyed this movie

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i liked it we are raising hands who enjoyed the

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films yeah you cannot see it is it a kid is it

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for kids i think so i would have enjoyed it as

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a kid Definitely. Well, I just can't tell. Is

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it a kid's movie or is it like a movie about

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kids for adults to watch? Both. And you kind

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of see illustrations of characters that is quite

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childish and would be appealing to kids at the

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same time. I think this is pretty extreme, but

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in my opinion, it reminded me of Salaam Bombay.

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I kept bringing that up too. Yeah, Adam did.

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But I feel like it was quite different, the setting,

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the environment. Of course, it's a totally different

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class. Except for they were both centered around

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kids, honestly. There were no similarities other

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than that. They were kind of produced in a similar

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way. yeah yeah yeah we i want to get into let's

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go through the plot but i do want to talk about

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comparisons too i'm glad you brought it up because

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i think they're pretty stark about how it's filmed

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direction wise but let's do the plot okay it'll

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take one second so go for it no it's not very

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long but i'll start with the characters first

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basically it takes place in this like all boys

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yeah yeah catholic school is like a church like

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it's run by this father you have the titular

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stanley he's like this talented boy who is loved

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by all he's like very popular he's very smart

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he's very creative but something seems off right

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like he shows up with some bruises on his face

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and we won't find that out until much later and

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you have his classmates Just a bunch of boys.

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There's like the rich chubby kid. Yeah. I call

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him the rich chubby kid because he's like the

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only one that brings in like a big lunchbox,

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like a really large one. He rules though. He

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rules. Like he's super nice. I think his name

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is Amun. And yeah, he was not a bully or anything.

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And that's like one of the upsides of the movie

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because you see this kid have a really positive

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experience in school. Where everyone's willing

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to share with him. Everyone's so nice to him.

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At least when it comes to kids. The adults are

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painted in a bit more of a villainous way. I

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really like that. And yeah, he defined all the

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stereotypes as like he was rich and had all the

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food and was super nice and generous. It was

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very cool. In your school, were they nice like

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this? Or is this realistic? Oh yeah, I rarely...

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Yeah, bullying was not that prevalent. And then

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if someone is a bully, people would gang up on

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the bully eventually and then shut them down.

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That's cool. What a good school, actually. And

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then you have the teachers. You have, like, your

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principal, the holy man. You have, like, Miss

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Rosie. She's, like, this sweet English teacher

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who sees Stanley's potential. And she's gorgeous.

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She's pretty. She's so pretty. Like, she has

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such a nice smile. She's too pretty for a teacher.

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It's distracting. I told... Sorry. I told Woody...

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So... These kids are, like, 12 or whatever, right?

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Like, you guys know, like, you get random boners

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all the time in school. I actually did not know

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that until Adam kind of spelled it out, like,

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how easily it was to get boners as a teenager.

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As a tool. But these were, like, eight, ten.

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No, I was getting a random boner watching the

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eight -year -old. That's what I was trying to

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explain to her. Cut, cut, edit. No, in that time,

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though, like. Number one, if teachers or students,

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you can't control it. It doesn't even matter,

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actually, if anyone's hot or not. But I went

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to a private Lutheran school, not Catholic, for

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elementary school and stuff. And I told her we'd

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have to hide our boners behind Bibles and stuff

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a lot. Elementary school? Yeah. Junior high,

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up until eighth grade. It was kindergarten to

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eighth grade. But yeah, so I just had strong

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memories watching this. And we should note, this

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school is all boys. And a lot of female teachers.

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All female teachers, except for one. I just want

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to go back. I did have boners, too. I did have

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boners, too. That's normal, yes. I was in junior

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high school. There was this math teacher. She

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had really big... Badonkadonks. And I know everyone

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was like staring at them nonstop. And I know

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there were times where I literally had to hide.

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I can't control it, man. It just happens. If

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you're a boy, there's nothing you can do. And

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like, again, even if no one's hot, even if you're

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just alone at church. with nothing like you know

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you just things happen like you can't it sucks

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you can't walk you're constantly afraid of the

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teacher calling on you it's a real thing can

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you get a boner if there's just like a male teacher

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who you're not remotely attracted to like is

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there still a level of attraction required it

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has literally nothing to do with attraction it's

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a physical it's your body going crazy just happens

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so it just randomly happens for no reason and

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then you cannot walk Cause it's like visible.

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And like, you're just always afraid. Like, please

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don't call me teacher. Please don't make me do

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a group presentation. Please not now. It randomly

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came up again. It sucks. It's so, and it's, you're,

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I'm amazed that you're not aware of it. And that's

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amazing. The boy's ability to hide it. Talk about

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this a little bit more. I should talk about boy

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boners more. There are times where you just yawn

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and it just happens. I yawn and it, it just,

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it just, yeah. I don't know. And then, like,

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at that point, I'm like, shit, I can't stand

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up. You can't stand up. Might as well be Christian

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so you always have a Bible to hide it with. That

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worked out for you, huh, Adam? That's why you

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see all those Mormon guys walking around the

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street with that. It's because they're hiding

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boners, dude. All right, back to the teachers.

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This is our kids movie. Not a kid -friendly episode.

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Kelly's been mysteriously silent about this topic,

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though. Kelly's just like, why are we talking

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about boners? That's a bit too late. boomer oh

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yeah we're getting random boners at like 16 yeah

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that sucks okay we can move on okay we don't

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want you to talk about this so gorgeous english

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teacher miss rosie she's like loved by all the

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kids and you also have this like really strict

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science teacher who's like super by the books

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creativity is not allowed and there's also like

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some history male teacher that comes in later

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in the movie. He gets hired, right? He gets hired,

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but I don't understand the point of this character.

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He has elf ears. Would you guys look at his ears?

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He was just one of those cool teachers. That's

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the point. I think it's because there's only

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one male teacher and we'll find that he's the

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antagonist and they had to just show there can

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be some good male teachers. Exactly. I didn't

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think about that, but now that you said it, that

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makes sense. They're all super angelic, nice

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women. And then, like, a mean guy. But there's

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mean female teachers, too. And this mean teacher,

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he's, like, the antagonist. He's played by the

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director. Oh, I did not know that. He's the director.

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And Stanley's his son. What? Yeah. It's crazy.

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But, like, his name is, like, Verma. So I think

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he's, like, one of the most despicable characters

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I've seen. In a long time. Interesting. Yeah,

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you're right. Maybe just the whole setup. Like

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Winnie was saying earlier today, he's very cartoonishly

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evil. But I just like his trait. He's this guy

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that gets so obsessed about food. He just constantly

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thinks about eating food. He has this very unashamed,

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selfish attitude towards food. food in the sense

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that he would just steal people's lunches he

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never brings his own lunches and he he always

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takes food from other teachers in the teacher's

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room as well yeah just to see how how much of

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a bastard he is funny thing is everyone willingly

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gives him food whether it's out of fear out of

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bullying because the children will cave and give

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him food but the teachers also do but maybe the

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teachers almost do it out of pity so that he

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would stop taking food from other kids but Everyone

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kind of just gives in to him. He's like Pac -Man.

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Or like a hungry, hungry hippo or something.

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He just continually exists to eat other people's

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food and shit. And if he was in the movie Seven,

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he'd get killed for gluttony. He's a glutton.

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I didn't understand the character at first because

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it's so ridiculous. Get your own food, dude.

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This is not an issue. But I guess the whole point

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of this character is to show that I think the

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movie kind of mentions it. Like, there's just,

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like, unqualified, authoritative figure. The

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movie explores a lot of power dynamics, and this

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is one of them. Yes. And he feels no shame, absolutely

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whatsoever. And the kids are obviously afraid

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of him to some degree. Yeah. And the teachers.

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Yeah, he is definitely portrayed as a bully.

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So, yeah, it starts off with Stanley. Like, he

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goes to school. He just shows up in class with

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bruises. and we get to see miss rosie ask him

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you know what happened and the audience gets

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to see that stanley is a very he likes to embellish

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like like fibs he lies he lies a lot i could

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have just said that yeah he he makes up stories

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he makes up excuses miss rosie finds that cute

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you know like uh it's just amusing and it also

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wins uh the laughter of his mates it quickly

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establishes that stanley is this like uh wildly

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creative guy and he makes everyone laugh he's

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like just fun to be around with i mean he's probably

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getting good grades for creative writing because

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he's such a liar so he has like a huge imagination

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and then like writes really good stories about

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it in the school there's been like some pandemic

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or virus or something and then they decide to

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like extend the the class schedule by adding

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extra periods so the kids are required to bring

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bigger lunch boxes, which excites Verma. It's

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a weird plot. When I say it, it does sound weird.

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Yeah, you're right. This is the main conflict

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of the story. Verma finds out that all the kids

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have bigger lunch boxes now. And he spends his

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entire class asking the kids what did they bring

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for lunch? And he would just unashamedly sit

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with the kids and... eat their lunches oh my

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god like a tax collector like he would just he

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just sits there and like all the kids are just

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helplessly watching him eat their lunch stanley

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doesn't have any lunch stanley never brings lunch

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but the kids are willing to share with him because

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he's you know again he's very popular and he

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tries not he makes excuses sometimes he's like

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no i'm gonna go home like i you know fresh food

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there and he's like lying yeah and he mentioned

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his parents were away right and that's why he

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didn't have any lunch that scene broke my heart

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when he was like just drinking water to suppress

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her hunger like he just goes to the washroom

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and just drinks water days after days and then

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just walks out and saying like oh i'm going for

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the hot food my mom's gonna cook and he always

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brings up his mom that his mom gonna cook hot

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food for him and he just goes out stands next

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to the like in some other street and like looks

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at the cars and then just comes back after the

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lunch is over that that scene was like yeah really

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emotional so the kids had to have double the

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size of their lunches and then like verma is

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like stealing all the food and he sees stanley

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right not having his own lunchbox and like verma

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always likes to like berate the kid for not bringing

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his own lunchbox but he doesn't bring his own

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either it's very hypocritical right the kids

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are willing to help share the lunch right and

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because they know that verma is like preying

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on their food every day the middle of the movie

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they they basically try to trick verma by telling

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him that you know they're they'll be sitting

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at this one location when they in fact they're

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like hiding away from him so that it would distract

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verma like verma would hunt the children down

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so that he could eat their lunch It sounds ridiculous

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when I say it, but, like, when you watch it,

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it just makes sense. Like a T -Rex thing. And,

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like, basically... They put a goat outside for

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Verma to, like, rush at. The kids are just, like,

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hiding from Verma, eating their lunches. And

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we should know, during the same time, the teachers

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are also bummed about Verma. Like, they're having

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to give food and shit, too. And, like, he's just...

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running on everyone. And then I guess at one

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point Verma finally catches the kids hiding on

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the roof of the school. It was like a moment

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where he kind of tells Stanley that if you don't

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bring your own lunchbox you can't come to school.

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But I think he says it out of embarrassment because

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like the kids were just hiding from him because

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they knew he would eat the lunch. And that's

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when Stanley disappears and we learn that Stanley

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doesn't have a home to go back to because like

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Keely mentioned Like, he's just, like, standing

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outside of school, standing on the street, hiding

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from people. Yeah. And then at some point, like,

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they realized, like, the kids never, like, said

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anything. But then, like, I think there's a scene

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where you can tell Verma is kind of, like, guilty

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about it. That Stanley hasn't come back to school.

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And then, you know, it blows up in where the

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kids confronted Miss Rosie and said, like, yo,

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you know, Verma chased Stanley away and we...

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We can't find him. Yeah, which is crazy. And

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so she instantly goes to him and is like, what

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are you doing? What are you doing? You have no

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shame. She was saying like that. You have no

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shame. While that's happening, the school is

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basically setting up this like international

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theater arts festival. Because like Stanley has

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been expelled in quotation marks, has been expelled

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from the school. He doesn't know about it. But

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then, you know, his classmates are so sweet.

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They hear about this contest and they're like,

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Stanley's the right. person to be in this contest

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so like they actually made an effort to track

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him down and then like Talk to him about it.

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Which I thought was really nice, right? What

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does he do? He sings? He was, like, dancing.

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Oh, yeah. Dancing or something. And then, like,

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because... He emcees as well. He emcees as well.

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But then, like, Stanley was doing that outside

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of school, right? He was just, like, sneaking

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off to rehearse and stuff. And then, like, basically,

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like, the management of the theater arts festival

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took notice of him. And then, like, while that's

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happening, right? Like, Stanley has to get a

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tapa, right? And... I don't know how to explain

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it, but it does it in a way where you don't know

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how he ends up with the tapa. Yeah, correct.

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I kept missing. I kept rewinding. I'm like, what

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did I miss? And nothing. It just flash cuts to

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him holding that. And I still don't... Do you

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have an answer? That's very intentional. You

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get the answer at the end of the movie. But I

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think they had to skip it to kind of keep the

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mystery towards the end. I didn't connect that

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until just now. We get a transition where there

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was like... food cooking exactly and it looks

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so delicious and then like you don't know why

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that transition happens but then the next thing

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you know he's holding a tapa and they will find

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out eventually see this is this is why i'm asking

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if it's a kid's movie because this is so complicated

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and confusing why no i'm kidding i'm kidding

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i just didn't connect until now yeah but it's

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a very battered tapa it's not a shiny steel one

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like some of the other kids have it looks kind

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of like old and medley but like the moment he

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like it was blue it was like rusted yeah it's

00:19:17.529 --> 00:19:21.130
been used yeah um but no but he but then he pulls

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it out of the thing and it's actually pretty

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nice it was a double in a double yeah double

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assumption and then it was like the most like

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it's like stanley being stanley right he he literally

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like has this tapa now and then like he goes

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right up to verma and says here it is I have

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my lunchbox now. And he actually offers the whole

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thing. He offers the whole food to Verma and

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he just basically looks at him and said, can

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I come back to school now? And Verma, I think

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that was the sudden realization that Verma is

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a monster. I would have preferred my alternative

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ending where the kids grab all their tiffin boxes

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and beat the shit out of him. Yeah, or like he

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gets hung outside the schoolyard or something.

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But the other female teacher also plays a big

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role in Verma reaching this conclusion, right?

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She kind of gives him off in the teacher's room

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and asks him if he had any right to expel Stanley

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for such things. And basically called him out

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for all his selfishness and stealing of food.

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And the father, the priest. later was like yeah

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that guy sucks my thing an important element

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is that he came to that awareness by himself

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like nobody chased him out literally right he

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you kind of see him with his head down in shame

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like he was in full admission of what he did

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wrong Yeah, I was expecting, like, a little retaliation

00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:39.470
like villains would do, right? Exactly. But then

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it's not. He literally sees the error of his

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ways and accepts it. You know, like, how we could

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watch some superhero movies and then, like, the

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hero and the villain has the same, similar origin

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story, like Iron Man or, like, Minal Murali where

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we watched, right? So, it kind of, like, I just,

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I was, yeah, it kind of, like, same. Like, they

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both have the same thing that, like, Stan Lee

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doesn't bring food and the villain doesn't bring

00:21:02.069 --> 00:21:05.240
food. But we see, like, the villain. always wants

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the food and then like everyone hates him for

00:21:07.740 --> 00:21:10.240
that and Stanley is like so loved by everyone

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and everyone like go out of their way to like

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feed Stanley it is a good point like they're

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they're like bizarro versions of each other and

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one's old one's young one's a student one's a

00:21:21.500 --> 00:21:25.119
teacher they both don't bring lunches but Stanley

00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.309
is likable And so like, yeah, people give them

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food, not out of compulsion, but because they

00:21:30.569 --> 00:21:33.309
like him. And then he has to demand it because

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he's like an ugly person and people don't want

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to be around him. And so he's like forced to

00:21:38.009 --> 00:21:41.210
be uglier by demanding it instead. Yeah, it's

00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:42.970
interesting. You see, what's interesting, though,

00:21:43.049 --> 00:21:45.009
is like as you're watching this movie, you obviously

00:21:45.009 --> 00:21:47.190
keep wondering why Stanley doesn't bring food.

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And, like, the whole movie is just kind of a

00:21:49.150 --> 00:21:51.710
slow unwrapping of that, right? And you see a

00:21:51.710 --> 00:21:54.190
lot of, like, red flags quite early in the movie

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where he shows up with a bruise. You know, right

00:21:56.630 --> 00:21:58.230
away. Like, I knew right away. I was like, oh,

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this is a child abuse story. So there are bruises.

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He's showing up without lunches. But at the same

00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:04.390
time, the movie is taking place against such

00:22:04.390 --> 00:22:06.569
a happy background of school. Like, you know,

00:22:06.569 --> 00:22:09.210
where this almost comical thing is going on between

00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:11.769
the children and the teacher. And then you see

00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:13.210
a lot of kindness from the children. So it's

00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:15.349
almost a happy setting with, of course, like,

00:22:15.410 --> 00:22:18.230
this villainous teacher. But it's still in a

00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:21.109
safe setting, right? Like he's just stealing

00:22:21.109 --> 00:22:23.589
their food. He's not doing anything cruel to

00:22:23.589 --> 00:22:27.170
them per se, like directly to them. But then

00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:28.849
at the same time, you know, like behind the scenes,

00:22:28.869 --> 00:22:30.990
there's something much more severe going on.

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And it almost bothered me about the movie that

00:22:33.990 --> 00:22:36.769
this unwrapping was so slow. It was hard for

00:22:36.769 --> 00:22:39.630
me to enjoy the rest of the movie or even that

00:22:39.630 --> 00:22:42.369
dynamic between the teacher and the kids because

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I just kept wondering. What is up with Stanley?

00:22:45.289 --> 00:22:48.109
Like, is he okay? What is his backstory? And

00:22:48.109 --> 00:22:49.970
you keep waiting for it to happen, but you're

00:22:49.970 --> 00:22:52.890
like an hour into an hour and a half movie and

00:22:52.890 --> 00:22:56.250
there's still no signs. He's still just making

00:22:56.250 --> 00:22:59.450
up stories, you know, like, yeah. And I don't

00:22:59.450 --> 00:23:01.009
know. I think that is the beauty of the film

00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:04.289
in many ways. And that is what makes it a kid's

00:23:04.289 --> 00:23:06.130
movie. You know, it's digestible. It's not too

00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:09.049
harsh. And then there's still this like underground

00:23:09.049 --> 00:23:12.430
darker story, but at the same time, it also is

00:23:12.430 --> 00:23:15.250
exactly what bothered me about the film. I, yeah,

00:23:15.369 --> 00:23:18.269
I, I, I think I agree because like, yeah, the

00:23:18.269 --> 00:23:20.390
first scene he comes in with a bruise, right?

00:23:20.490 --> 00:23:22.309
So, you know, something's up and then you're

00:23:22.309 --> 00:23:25.190
just waiting to get to that point to see why.

00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:28.789
So I was just like, let's just get to that so

00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:30.349
that we can like enjoy the film or something.

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But you know, you know that this point is coming.

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And as the clock keeps going, you're like, when

00:23:34.390 --> 00:23:36.470
is this going to kick in? And that's not even

00:23:36.470 --> 00:23:39.269
the resolution of the film. That revelation comes

00:23:39.269 --> 00:23:41.450
after the resolution of the film. So this is

00:23:41.450 --> 00:23:43.710
like out of the scope of the film's arc. It's

00:23:43.710 --> 00:23:45.269
like an epilogue. It's like an epilogue, for

00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:50.170
sure. I mean, I kind of like that fact that it's

00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:52.809
beyond the film's scope of dealing with that

00:23:52.809 --> 00:23:55.369
huge problem. So they deal with the smaller problem

00:23:55.369 --> 00:23:58.230
in school. But if it wasn't for the Stanley subplot,

00:23:58.230 --> 00:24:00.509
this movie would be like Home Alone. It'd be

00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:04.349
like the kids versus an adult. kind of be humorous.

00:24:04.349 --> 00:24:07.869
The adult's kind of funny. But then they just

00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:09.609
insert this that's kind of running through the

00:24:09.609 --> 00:24:11.109
whole thing. So it's kind of hard to enjoy because

00:24:11.109 --> 00:24:14.589
there's this starving kid this whole time that's

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:17.450
lying about not having a home and stuff. It really

00:24:17.450 --> 00:24:20.710
burdens the film. So it can't be super funny,

00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:22.789
but you're just waiting for this. It's hard to

00:24:22.789 --> 00:24:24.170
enjoy as well because you're just waiting for

00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:27.990
that hammer to drop. Exactly. What's the hammer?

00:24:28.430 --> 00:24:32.069
What's the resolution? We get like the finale

00:24:32.069 --> 00:24:35.609
where Stanley gets to perform at that theater

00:24:35.609 --> 00:24:41.960
arts festival. Everyone loves it. Also, Stanley

00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.259
is infallible. He's super cool, does everything

00:24:44.259 --> 00:24:49.460
very well. It is a little fantasy. Everyone loved

00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:52.740
it. And you get to see this quick little scene

00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:56.460
where he's just standing as usual outside, waiting

00:24:56.460 --> 00:24:59.759
for nothing. And Miss Rosie congratulates him,

00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:02.740
and they offered him a ride home. And he says

00:25:02.740 --> 00:25:04.940
no, because his mother is going to pick him up.

00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:09.890
But then later on, the father, the priest, he

00:25:09.890 --> 00:25:13.329
comes to Stanley and offers to take him home,

00:25:13.410 --> 00:25:16.809
which he agrees. And then he drops off Stanley

00:25:16.809 --> 00:25:20.289
in the vicinity of where he lives. And then we

00:25:20.289 --> 00:25:23.430
get to see that Stanley... Sorry, before we get

00:25:23.430 --> 00:25:25.789
to that one moment. i when i did you guys have

00:25:25.789 --> 00:25:27.410
this when he's in the car with the priest was

00:25:27.410 --> 00:25:29.329
anyone freaked out a little bit yeah okay oh

00:25:29.329 --> 00:25:31.829
my gosh adam would not shut up about this i was

00:25:31.829 --> 00:25:33.509
a little terrified yeah i was treating i was

00:25:33.509 --> 00:25:35.269
like this is it was filmed like a horror film

00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:37.470
because it was like the camera was only in the

00:25:37.470 --> 00:25:39.630
car it's only a horror film because he's dressed

00:25:39.630 --> 00:25:44.470
as a priest let's be honest Well, yes, but that

00:25:44.470 --> 00:25:47.789
is a huge motive. And the priest is driving around

00:25:47.789 --> 00:25:49.769
the car. It's dark at night. The kid's alone.

00:25:50.089 --> 00:25:52.569
He doesn't have parents. We know the camera's

00:25:52.569 --> 00:25:54.490
not leaving the car and the kid's in the backseat

00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:56.789
and it's dwarfing the kid. So he looks really

00:25:56.789 --> 00:25:59.529
small in the frame. And I'm like, Jesus Christ,

00:25:59.609 --> 00:26:02.150
like this is dark. And I was like flipping out.

00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:03.869
And I was like, this is how he becomes an altar

00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:06.470
boy. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is really,

00:26:06.509 --> 00:26:08.289
really, I didn't know it was going to go here.

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:10.950
Like this is messed up. And it was, it was super

00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:12.650
nice. Like the guy was like, okay, bye. and the

00:26:12.650 --> 00:26:14.549
kid gets dropped off. But like the way it was

00:26:14.549 --> 00:26:17.089
filmed was like a horror movie. And even without

00:26:17.089 --> 00:26:19.710
that, just, you know, a Catholic priest with

00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:22.049
a little boy in a car at night is like iffy.

00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:24.650
But I was really freaked out for a second. So

00:26:24.650 --> 00:26:26.170
I think that means like the priest, like the

00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:28.589
father would, father knew Stanley's situation

00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:31.509
because he's like an administrator of the office.

00:26:31.650 --> 00:26:33.349
I don't think he knew, man. Well, he dropped

00:26:33.349 --> 00:26:35.730
Stanley off at exactly where Stanley is. Of course,

00:26:35.750 --> 00:26:38.450
he wouldn't see the inside. But he took Stanley

00:26:38.450 --> 00:26:40.230
home. He didn't buy the story that his mom was

00:26:40.230 --> 00:26:44.259
coming to pick him up. Yeah. Also, he's the administrator

00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:46.960
of the school. Like, I don't think Stanley can

00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.960
pay fees. I want to bring this up after this

00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.200
too. So he knows his situation. I think he knows

00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.420
his situation and it's like a charity student.

00:26:56.140 --> 00:26:58.519
Is that the situation? Let's finish and then

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.000
I'll get into it because I have a huge question

00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.480
about that. All right. I'll try and wrap up this

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.400
kid's movie. So anyway, in this kid's movie...

00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:06.200
It's really complicated. Don't worry, Nikki.

00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.640
I feel bad for you. In this kid's movie... After

00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:13.960
the whole subtle pedo -like scene. Which isn't.

00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:16.400
It's just my imagination. No, I felt the same

00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.819
way. I was terrified for Stanley, man, because

00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:23.319
they didn't show the priest's face. He was like,

00:27:23.380 --> 00:27:25.759
let's go home, Stanley. And then there's a hand

00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.759
that just leads Stanley into a car. I was literally

00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:32.039
terrified, man. I don't know if they filmed it

00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.119
on purpose like that, but it was a horrific part

00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.619
of the film. Would you guys have been terrified

00:27:35.619 --> 00:27:38.680
if he was not a priest? Less so, less so. yeah

00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.099
okay it's just like it's still weird seeing a

00:27:41.099 --> 00:27:44.420
lot of those things horror stories man anyway

00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:46.400
check the cover it's x -rayed i'm like what movie

00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.420
is this this is an hour in uh yeah okay so we

00:27:51.420 --> 00:27:54.400
did find out that the place that the priest dropped

00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.640
it was like uh i'll just say it's like a street

00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.539
food restaurant a street food restaurant and

00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:04.990
then you see like this angry angry like head

00:28:04.990 --> 00:28:08.670
chef owner type of character and right away he

00:28:08.670 --> 00:28:13.630
just slaps stanley and then he gives like exposition

00:28:13.630 --> 00:28:15.910
to expositional dialogue where he was saying

00:28:15.910 --> 00:28:19.950
like oh your parents died in a bike crash and

00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:22.910
i have to live and me as your uncle my bro like

00:28:22.910 --> 00:28:25.809
my my brother and his and his wife died in that

00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:28.109
crash and i have to deal with the bad omen like

00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:30.569
you like it's like okay yeah winnie you're right

00:28:30.569 --> 00:28:33.630
it's like they quickly like drop this whole,

00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:39.390
like, bombshell of a plot twist at the very end.

00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:42.269
Yeah. At the very end. And he does, yeah, the

00:28:42.269 --> 00:28:44.630
exposition in one line. He, like, explains the

00:28:44.630 --> 00:28:47.150
entire backstory in one sentence. In one sentence.

00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:51.029
It was too quick. And we find out, yeah, so that's

00:28:51.029 --> 00:28:54.650
a twist. Like, Stanley, his parents died in an

00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:58.349
accident. and now he has this like very abusive

00:28:58.349 --> 00:29:02.230
uncle that like he's so he's like forced to like

00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:05.549
work shifts at this restaurant and he's been

00:29:05.549 --> 00:29:07.609
like going to school skipping his shifts and

00:29:07.609 --> 00:29:09.829
that's why he's getting beaten up pretty much

00:29:09.829 --> 00:29:14.130
but not everything is bad uh we get to see in

00:29:14.130 --> 00:29:16.589
the very beginning like in the early scenes of

00:29:16.589 --> 00:29:18.470
the movie you know the scene where he builds

00:29:18.470 --> 00:29:21.529
like that lighthouse you see a guy like a shirtless

00:29:21.529 --> 00:29:24.410
dude that walks into like the classroom looking

00:29:24.410 --> 00:29:27.029
all like lost and stuff and then like he actually

00:29:27.029 --> 00:29:29.750
helps stanley build that lighthouse you don't

00:29:29.750 --> 00:29:31.609
know who that character is but then we find out

00:29:31.609 --> 00:29:34.369
at the very end it's like one of the chefs at

00:29:34.369 --> 00:29:36.930
this restaurant who who basically feels sorry

00:29:36.930 --> 00:29:39.549
for stanley and like he basically like helps

00:29:39.549 --> 00:29:43.750
stanley out by uh you know leaving getting all

00:29:43.750 --> 00:29:46.329
the leftover food and putting it in a tapa and

00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:49.009
then like just letting stanley like take the

00:29:49.009 --> 00:29:52.430
lunchbox behind his uncle's uh back basically

00:29:52.430 --> 00:29:56.029
and we get to see him like them basically like

00:29:56.029 --> 00:29:59.329
clean up the restaurant and like it's like basically

00:29:59.329 --> 00:30:01.690
like this this chef is like a brother figure

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:04.539
to him i would say And it's very heartwarming,

00:30:04.619 --> 00:30:07.099
though. It was just such a huge, total whiplash

00:30:07.099 --> 00:30:08.819
for me. Yeah, I guess you're right. When I think

00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:11.259
about it now, it does feel a little sudden. It's

00:30:11.259 --> 00:30:14.420
very rushed at the end. Yeah. I like the dialogue

00:30:14.420 --> 00:30:16.579
they have that he's like, why didn't you just

00:30:16.579 --> 00:30:19.819
ask for the food before? So that's what I was

00:30:19.819 --> 00:30:23.160
thinking. So he's from a restaurant. Like, why

00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:25.660
is not being in the bus before? And then, I mean,

00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.160
so they address it right away. Like, he's like,

00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:30.960
why didn't you ask me before? And then he's like,

00:30:31.099 --> 00:30:33.750
no, is it my food? Is it my... uncle's food so

00:30:33.750 --> 00:30:36.569
i i mean that part like it also goes with stanley's

00:30:36.569 --> 00:30:38.670
character of like self -respect that like he

00:30:38.670 --> 00:30:41.869
doesn't want to steal his uncle's food like even

00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:43.529
though he's not gonna abuse a piece of piece

00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:46.230
of shit and isn't the film for like child abuse

00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:48.049
people and stuff what do you mean child abuse

00:30:48.049 --> 00:30:51.680
people like Is it against? Like, people for,

00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.599
yeah. It's not for. Obviously, it's not like,

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:58.079
this is the PSA, please go beat your child and

00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.160
starve them. No. No, wasn't it like they worked

00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.200
with schools and were addressing the issue or

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.500
something? Did I make that up? And, you know,

00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.000
now that we know this revelation, right? Stanley

00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.700
goes back to school, acting all normal, and we

00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:14.829
get to see this really nice scene. a kind of

00:31:14.829 --> 00:31:17.509
nice scene where he kind of like shares the food

00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:21.150
from his lunchbox and throughout the credits

00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:24.089
roll and we get to see Stanley not telling the

00:31:24.089 --> 00:31:27.670
truth he just basically lies that his mother

00:31:27.670 --> 00:31:31.289
is still cooking for him yeah so he's still an

00:31:31.289 --> 00:31:34.029
asshole and it should be called Stanley the liar

00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:36.609
we have to use the term lie like pretty lightly

00:31:36.609 --> 00:31:39.069
here right like he comes from a pretty sad background

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:42.289
and I think he's just he has to you see like

00:31:42.289 --> 00:31:44.529
he's very good at making up creative stories,

00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:46.390
right? Throughout the movie. And I think when

00:31:46.390 --> 00:31:48.369
you come from, when he's living the life that

00:31:48.369 --> 00:31:50.289
he is, it's pretty much the child labor and exploitation

00:31:50.289 --> 00:31:54.089
and abuse all in one. Like you kind of need to

00:31:54.089 --> 00:31:58.529
have a imaginative, happy state in order to get

00:31:58.529 --> 00:32:00.309
through that. And you see that really play out

00:32:00.309 --> 00:32:02.289
throughout the movie where despite his background

00:32:02.289 --> 00:32:05.690
and his, like where he comes from, he's still

00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:08.309
a very happy kid and he's performing well in

00:32:08.309 --> 00:32:10.250
school. He's nice to his friends. He's liked.

00:32:10.549 --> 00:32:14.099
And so that does not define him. um but yeah

00:32:14.099 --> 00:32:17.039
so i'd say he's not a liar per se he's just a

00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.420
probably a traumatized child trying to survive

00:32:19.420 --> 00:32:22.880
the world he's in no he's canceled i think i

00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.839
think also like when you really come from the

00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.900
like a like a like that kind of background and

00:32:27.900 --> 00:32:30.380
then like everyone else is like having like their

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.539
parents and all the love and like you kind of

00:32:32.539 --> 00:32:35.599
want to mix with them like you know be like one

00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.119
with them and so like you cook up this story

00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.480
that i also have a mother i'm not motherless

00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.420
you you're i mean everyone's love mother loved

00:32:43.420 --> 00:32:45.920
them like they cook food for them and he doesn't

00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.579
have that so i mean he want to assimilate with

00:32:48.579 --> 00:32:52.220
the kids and like yeah so he always carries on

00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:55.220
with this story like you know like that's i think

00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:58.000
that's kind of pretty common with kids yeah as

00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.460
a kid all you want to do is good things about

00:32:59.460 --> 00:33:01.740
their home fit in right you just want to fit

00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:03.079
in you don't want to stand out you don't want

00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.680
to feel be pitied or anything wait he's just

00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.680
trying to be normal how is he in this school

00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.460
so yeah so that's what i'm saying like this is

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:12.200
a christian missionary school so they will definitely

00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.420
have charity students okay because because they

00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:16.660
it's a good school like they're speaking english

00:33:16.660 --> 00:33:21.140
yeah and like you know it's uh nice conditions

00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.140
the tables are nice like it's a nice building

00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:25.519
and i was like if he's if he's being neglected

00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.319
this much and he's not even being given food

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.559
Why is he in the school? Did they say like how

00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.420
old was he like when his parents died? Like was

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:37.420
it mentioned? I mean, it can be like explained

00:33:37.420 --> 00:33:40.140
in many ways. But like what I could say is like,

00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:42.519
OK, maybe his parents like rolled him in in the

00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.019
school and then they passed away. The father

00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.099
knows about the situation that his parents has

00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:49.220
passed away and he's living with his uncle and

00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:51.839
then doesn't ask for money because there is no

00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.460
source of income for him anymore. It is interesting

00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:56.700
to compare, though, to Salon Bombay. Correct.

00:33:57.450 --> 00:34:01.029
neglected kid all things considered he's pretty

00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:03.769
you know he's in a good school he's you know

00:34:03.769 --> 00:34:06.470
uh his father he still has like a father figure

00:34:06.470 --> 00:34:08.809
and like the priest is actually cool and not

00:34:08.809 --> 00:34:11.269
like assaulting him and he has really nice friends

00:34:11.269 --> 00:34:13.230
and he's getting good education he speaks english

00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:16.269
and all this stuff pretty good all things considered

00:34:16.269 --> 00:34:20.570
slump on bay was like slum slum like these kids

00:34:20.570 --> 00:34:23.639
are like neglected like they're like out on their

00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.980
own basically which is very interesting contrast

00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:29.460
i just think the comparison i that we're making

00:34:29.460 --> 00:34:32.579
is because like they both end in a very like

00:34:32.579 --> 00:34:36.239
unresolved way it's also filmed very differently

00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.980
in slum bombay you feel like you're with the

00:34:38.980 --> 00:34:42.940
kids at their eye level the whole time and it's

00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:46.000
filmed from their perspective basically and spends

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.500
a lot of alone time with the kids and and you

00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:51.480
feel really Like in the same space as these kids

00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.019
at their level and how they kind of see adults

00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:56.079
and how they see the world around them. And this

00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.900
movie was the opposite, I thought. Like a lot

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:02.139
of the cameras kind of panned down on the kid

00:35:02.139 --> 00:35:06.079
instead of like at their eye level. And you don't

00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.179
spend a lot of time just with them alone in a

00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:13.659
space like hanging out or, you know, it always

00:35:13.659 --> 00:35:15.980
feels like you're a little distance from the

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:19.989
kids. Interesting. Yeah. So I was checking out

00:35:19.989 --> 00:35:22.929
like Amal Gupta's interview for a bit and then

00:35:22.929 --> 00:35:24.869
like how it was produced and stuff like that.

00:35:24.949 --> 00:35:29.650
So he's actually also like similar to Meera Nair.

00:35:29.690 --> 00:35:32.409
Like he has like kind of this child activity.

00:35:32.510 --> 00:35:37.030
Like he works for children's, works for like

00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:38.869
children's films, like theater and stuff like

00:35:38.869 --> 00:35:42.170
that. And he's advocates for like proper treatment

00:35:42.170 --> 00:35:45.550
of children in film industry. Like he says these

00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:47.179
things a lot of times. that like, you know, like

00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:50.099
child actors goes through like a bad childhood

00:35:50.099 --> 00:35:52.860
because like homeschooling is not that huge option

00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:55.480
in India. So they stays out of the schools for

00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.159
a long period of time for the shooting. And then

00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.380
they're like tossed away after the production

00:36:00.380 --> 00:36:02.199
is done. They think they're a star, but they're

00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.840
nothing. Disney kids, adult star stuff. Yeah.

00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.320
And homeschooling is not that huge thing in India.

00:36:08.460 --> 00:36:10.719
And it's also like... takes away a lot of certain

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.300
things from childhood so he did this film like

00:36:13.300 --> 00:36:17.380
and he advocates for it a lot so he's like okay

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:20.219
only weekends don't doesn't miss class and max

00:36:20.219 --> 00:36:23.679
four to five hours per day shooting and then

00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:25.900
like so he kind of did with like workshopping

00:36:25.900 --> 00:36:27.760
with kids and while workshopping he shot the

00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.719
film so it took like almost like over a year

00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.519
to produce the film and then he just finished

00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.219
the film so yeah so then it's mostly with his

00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:39.099
and his friends money like crowd soul car crowd

00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:42.670
funded film and later sold to Fox cinema with

00:36:42.670 --> 00:36:46.730
and Karan Johar helped him to sell the film to

00:36:46.730 --> 00:36:51.150
Fox so that was a good thing Karan did no songs

00:36:51.150 --> 00:36:53.670
in this movie and the movie didn't have a proper

00:36:53.670 --> 00:36:55.750
like a fixed script right like a lot of it was

00:36:55.750 --> 00:36:57.809
just improvised where he just let the children

00:36:57.809 --> 00:37:01.250
do some of the talking to like capture their

00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:04.070
innocence did you read that as well no no I didn't

00:37:04.070 --> 00:37:06.320
read that talk about it yeah Yeah, that was mainly

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.199
it. There was no fixed script. He just had an

00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.639
idea about the plot arc that he wanted to capture.

00:37:10.900 --> 00:37:13.380
But then some of the scenes in the classroom

00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:16.280
and such were just natural dynamics between the

00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.320
children. And they were not trained actors as

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.340
well, right? They were just regular children.

00:37:21.900 --> 00:37:26.019
Yeah. I just want to add to the whole help advocating

00:37:26.019 --> 00:37:29.300
for children. It's worth noting that the final

00:37:29.300 --> 00:37:33.260
message the film has is there are a lot of Stanleys

00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:36.769
out there. getting like taken advantage of through

00:37:36.769 --> 00:37:39.750
their family members doing like child labor that

00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:41.909
was the thing that they mentioned but the thing

00:37:41.909 --> 00:37:44.010
you adam said uh that's kind of i was kind of

00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:46.429
cooking on that uh like the the difference with

00:37:46.429 --> 00:37:48.510
the salam bomb in the matter of fact that like

00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:51.769
both have like a stressed childhood but one person

00:37:51.769 --> 00:37:54.670
is in a better condition and one i think that

00:37:54.670 --> 00:37:57.150
that kind of talks about the reality in india

00:37:57.150 --> 00:38:00.429
it's like he comes from a family that who could

00:38:00.860 --> 00:38:03.559
like get into the society of like k like school

00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.679
proper school like english -speaking school and

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.380
stuff so even though they fall that his parents

00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:10.460
fallen out he has like an extremely traumatic

00:38:10.460 --> 00:38:12.780
childhood and everything but he still is still

00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:16.039
in the system so If he hangs in tight, he will

00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.000
get through it. While Salam Mohamed feels like

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.519
there is no way out for those kids. Because they

00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.099
come from this remote village. They have no connection,

00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.119
nothing. He just came in from the village and

00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.139
then just got picked up by this drug addict,

00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:35.079
another hobo. And then he goes in that zone.

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.840
I mean, if he had someone who... we're doing

00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:42.300
something in the city like a proper job or something

00:38:42.300 --> 00:38:45.500
and pick him up or meet him later his fortune

00:38:45.500 --> 00:38:48.340
might have changed but like it's like it's two

00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:52.519
realities existing in the same city that is bombay

00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.199
side by side and which is their kind of reality

00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.500
like both are very realistic i'd say and what

00:38:57.500 --> 00:39:00.440
jobs are acceptable or not because this In Salon

00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.820
Bombay, the girl's mom was a prostitute. She

00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:05.239
was deprived of a good school because of her

00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.440
parents' occupation and stuff. And because they

00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.559
own a restaurant, the kid can go to a good school.

00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.059
I don't think the Catholics would take a bunch

00:39:11.059 --> 00:39:16.179
of prostitute orphans. Philosophy Corner. So

00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:21.500
we were watching this movie and I was like, this

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:27.260
movie feels like kids bop Shawshank Redemption.

00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.900
Okay? Because it all takes place in the school.

00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.340
And so like the way it's filmed and the way they

00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:37.300
film the kids and then they film the teachers

00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:40.380
and the people involved, it looks like a prison.

00:39:40.980 --> 00:39:43.679
And it's filmed like a prison movie where all

00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.840
the kids are kind of in there together and like

00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.639
they're helping each other and giving each other

00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.320
food and trying to work within the system. And

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.860
then you have the guards, right, which are the

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:57.079
female teachers that are kind of. I mean, you

00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:58.980
know, again, it's loose. They're not, you know,

00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:00.559
they care for the kids. They're really nice.

00:40:00.739 --> 00:40:03.460
But they are under pressure by Verma, right?

00:40:03.619 --> 00:40:05.599
Because he's kind of the authority figure. And

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.679
it's not a mistake that he's the only male for

00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.300
a while. So he's like exerting disciplinary pressure

00:40:11.300 --> 00:40:13.960
on the women to do it to the kids. And then on

00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.760
top of him is the Catholic priest, right? So

00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:18.719
you have like religion on top of that. You see

00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.840
a ton of power dynamics at play, okay? And also,

00:40:23.900 --> 00:40:26.969
this is a very... Well, whether we like it or

00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:29.369
not, or no, we're doing it or not, we always

00:40:29.369 --> 00:40:32.630
film things or make stories or talk in the ideologies

00:40:32.630 --> 00:40:35.530
that we have, right? So this director, maybe

00:40:35.530 --> 00:40:37.429
he was aware that he was doing like a prison

00:40:37.429 --> 00:40:40.329
type movie. But then within this movie, these

00:40:40.329 --> 00:40:42.389
are very individualized problems, right? Like

00:40:42.389 --> 00:40:46.849
this kid, one kid doesn't have lunch. And the

00:40:46.849 --> 00:40:48.929
solution is to get rid of the teacher that's

00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:50.889
stealing it. It's like weird individualistic.

00:40:51.309 --> 00:40:53.449
ways to solve problems and stuff. There's this

00:40:53.449 --> 00:40:56.269
philosopher called Foucault. Postmodernist. Yeah,

00:40:56.329 --> 00:40:59.710
he's a postmodernist philosopher and his main

00:40:59.710 --> 00:41:03.030
bent is about like power dynamics, either like

00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:07.050
through sexuality or education or prison systems,

00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:11.210
you know, throughout the whole thing. He is very.

00:41:11.869 --> 00:41:14.690
much not a Marxist. And I could get into that

00:41:14.690 --> 00:41:16.730
a bit. He's anti -Marxist. He's anti -Marxist.

00:41:16.789 --> 00:41:19.030
And I will bring this up. He was introduced and

00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:21.769
translated by the CIA. I know that sounds kooky,

00:41:21.809 --> 00:41:24.230
but it is true. It's real. And I'm not joking.

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:26.210
The CIA did translate his work and introduce

00:41:26.210 --> 00:41:29.809
him into colleges to give kids something else

00:41:29.809 --> 00:41:32.730
besides Marx to read. He is a very stark contrast.

00:41:33.329 --> 00:41:36.239
But what he talks about basically is just. the

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.880
power dynamics within systems and basically that

00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.000
those cannot be broken so you have an ever -changing

00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.440
web of power dynamics and people exerting uh

00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.599
disciplinary action on each other and how you

00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.099
have small forms of resistance to that but how

00:41:51.099 --> 00:41:52.920
it can never be broken because there's always

00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.260
just going to be like forms of control and you

00:41:55.260 --> 00:41:56.980
see that in school like i said with the teachers

00:41:56.980 --> 00:41:59.179
and the students you see with the religion aspect

00:41:59.179 --> 00:42:02.659
with the father kind of extolling like those

00:42:02.659 --> 00:42:05.239
power dynamics of like a higher authority onto

00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.039
everyone. And then the male teacher is exerting

00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.280
his kind of God or society given authority to

00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.360
pressure the female teachers, to give him food,

00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.639
to not rat him out when he steals food from the

00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.519
kids and stuff like that. The kids to resist

00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.119
against this, uh, they do band together and they

00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.860
give Stanley food and stuff. But the end of the

00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:29.159
day, the movie is saying they just had to kind

00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.519
of fight back at this one teacher. and kick him

00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:34.119
out, and he had to kind of realize the errors

00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.440
of his ways. A lot of these power dynamics remain

00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.320
in place within the school. They're still in

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.239
a prison dynamic, but they did this small resistance

00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.360
this one time, and this is how they won out.

00:42:46.900 --> 00:42:49.400
If you're doing a Marxist analysis, honestly,

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.380
this movie doesn't exist if the school just provides

00:42:53.380 --> 00:42:57.139
lunches. If the school has a cafeteria where

00:42:57.139 --> 00:43:00.820
teachers and kids can all eat for free, the movie's

00:43:00.820 --> 00:43:04.690
gone. It's very easy to fix, honestly. It's just

00:43:04.690 --> 00:43:07.449
a structural change. You distribute resources

00:43:07.449 --> 00:43:10.050
so everyone gets food. We're done. But this is

00:43:10.050 --> 00:43:11.929
a very Foucaultian view of it where it's all

00:43:11.929 --> 00:43:14.309
very individualistic. There's nothing we can

00:43:14.309 --> 00:43:16.250
really do about it. And you're just watching

00:43:16.250 --> 00:43:19.730
how you can kind of give resistance in small

00:43:19.730 --> 00:43:24.909
ways to these eternal problems. But India doesn't

00:43:24.909 --> 00:43:27.809
live in a Marxist system, right? But the one

00:43:27.809 --> 00:43:33.619
act of... dealing with the problem what we see

00:43:33.619 --> 00:43:36.639
from the kids it's pretty communist like we have

00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.780
food you don't have we give you uh like we share

00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:42.260
our food and like like and then they go go out

00:43:42.260 --> 00:43:45.599
of their way to band together and help the person

00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.420
like who I mean, they definitely clock that thing,

00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:50.139
even though they don't know like what exactly.

00:43:50.179 --> 00:43:52.780
They call their parents and it's like the phone

00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:55.320
is there. The number doesn't exist. And so they

00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.119
realize that something is off and they don't

00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.019
pressurize him to like tell what is going on.

00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:04.059
But so they don't they don't go into that much

00:44:04.059 --> 00:44:06.940
that like why you are not bringing food. We are

00:44:06.940 --> 00:44:08.539
all bringing food. You should also bring food.

00:44:08.579 --> 00:44:10.900
Then only we can be same friends. No, they don't

00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:13.219
go there. They just like we have food. Aman has

00:44:13.219 --> 00:44:15.460
like way more food than he needs. Just share.

00:44:16.359 --> 00:44:21.559
That was like the one temporary act of difference.

00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:25.659
But that's their form of resistance. And yes,

00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.340
often you have to band together to help each

00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:29.340
other, but they don't change the system. They

00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:31.400
don't demand that the school provide free lunches.

00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.400
They just help their friend out in this one instance.

00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:35.619
And the kids might band together, but from the

00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:38.039
movie's point of view, they're just throwing

00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:39.820
a Band -Aid on it because they're not demanding

00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:41.900
any structural changes whatsoever. They're just

00:44:41.900 --> 00:44:43.800
fighting this one guy and that's kind of it.

00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:46.489
There is like a midday meal system in India like

00:44:46.489 --> 00:44:50.610
that. It created a lot of like let that reduce

00:44:50.610 --> 00:44:53.369
the school dropout in villages a lot. That was

00:44:53.369 --> 00:44:56.349
just giving food to kids so that like parents

00:44:56.349 --> 00:44:58.110
would just send their kids so that they can have

00:44:58.110 --> 00:45:00.429
food. That's it. It's super simple. Poor people

00:45:00.429 --> 00:45:04.030
like who like whose main struggle in life is

00:45:04.030 --> 00:45:07.309
like getting like food on their plate two times.

00:45:07.389 --> 00:45:09.469
So they just send their kids because they know

00:45:09.469 --> 00:45:13.159
that. kids gonna get food at school so the school

00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:17.659
dropout rate drastically reduced after introduction

00:45:17.659 --> 00:45:21.199
of midday meal system i mean in america too kids

00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.019
have like lunch debt and stuff and they have

00:45:23.019 --> 00:45:24.780
to like buy lunches like not all schools provide

00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:28.119
lunches and it's like bizarre like they get kicked

00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.019
out of school that's also very much based on

00:45:30.019 --> 00:45:32.059
the government right because under biden they

00:45:32.059 --> 00:45:35.099
really increased like assistance to to school

00:45:35.099 --> 00:45:38.960
lunches and now trump has rolled back significantly

00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.099
funding for food assistance programs which then

00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:43.039
affects the amount of food that goes local foods

00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.400
that goes to schools as well and that definitely

00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.340
affects children everywhere because especially

00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:50.099
when you are very from very impoverished backgrounds

00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:52.539
a lot of kids school might be the only meal that

00:45:52.539 --> 00:45:56.199
they get right and yeah but these are government

00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.480
cuts that are deemed necessary black panther

00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.639
started by giving out free meals to kids it's

00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.559
revolutionary huh it is kids need food austerity

00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:09.619
program are pushed by world bank and international

00:46:09.619 --> 00:46:13.460
what is that imf internal monetary fund they

00:46:13.460 --> 00:46:16.559
push push austerity to governments so that they

00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.380
cut funding to these social programs the imf

00:46:19.380 --> 00:46:21.860
just had a law called the stanley law where they

00:46:21.860 --> 00:46:24.019
said that kids have to buy their own lunches

00:46:24.019 --> 00:46:26.599
if a country is going to get funding so thanks

00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.579
stanley that's what imf does like we will only

00:46:29.579 --> 00:46:31.699
give you loan if you cut down austerity yeah

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:34.320
make sure the kids do not eat i will not give

00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:38.690
you money Okay, closing thoughts? I can't believe

00:46:38.690 --> 00:46:40.730
that you don't like the movie. Look at what you're

00:46:40.730 --> 00:46:43.469
all talking about. I'm not saying... It's a great

00:46:43.469 --> 00:46:47.030
movie. Damn it. I love the film. I love the film.

00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:51.030
I'm raising my hand. It was just uneven. Yeah.

00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:54.429
I don't know. I feel very neutral. I do like

00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:56.849
it. I think, like I expressed, I think it was

00:46:56.849 --> 00:46:58.750
just very slow towards the end. I think I was

00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:03.250
more interested in the backstory and why his

00:47:03.250 --> 00:47:06.389
situation was that way. But I can... appreciate

00:47:06.389 --> 00:47:09.230
that the way was able to convey that message

00:47:09.230 --> 00:47:11.489
while still remaining quite light -hearted you

00:47:11.489 --> 00:47:13.670
know you can you can show this to kids you probably

00:47:13.670 --> 00:47:16.110
wouldn't want to watch salam bombay with your

00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:17.909
children you know it's a little bit too heavy

00:47:17.909 --> 00:47:21.309
for kids to absorb maybe no that's an adult film

00:47:21.309 --> 00:47:25.809
for sure like 16 year old kids getting sold into

00:47:25.809 --> 00:47:28.050
brothel it's the kind of movie that kind of weighs

00:47:28.050 --> 00:47:30.690
on you this kind of movie gives you hope it instills

00:47:30.690 --> 00:47:32.289
hope and that's a big difference which i think

00:47:32.289 --> 00:47:35.070
we touched on earlier so i can appreciate that

00:47:35.070 --> 00:47:37.539
but I just wish it dug into that a little bit

00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:40.519
more. The movie ends in such a rapid way where

00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.980
you see his situation. You see him sleeping on,

00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:45.280
like, that cold metal thing, cold metal surface

00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.320
in the kitchen. I love that the kids were not

00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:52.699
bullies. I honestly love that. Like, I really

00:47:52.699 --> 00:47:54.579
don't like movies where kids are just horrible

00:47:54.579 --> 00:47:57.960
to each other. And I do think this is realistic.

00:47:58.099 --> 00:47:59.780
Like, honestly, the friends in my school were

00:47:59.780 --> 00:48:01.960
really nice, too, and Killy's. And, like, I think

00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:05.019
that is kind of realistic. I do like that the

00:48:05.019 --> 00:48:07.880
rich fat kid was super nice. Like that stuff

00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.039
was really good. I just was, again, I feel like

00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.539
we weren't at the kid's eye level, which was

00:48:13.539 --> 00:48:15.599
seemed just like disconnected from them and just

00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.619
meandering until we got to the end. You know,

00:48:18.619 --> 00:48:21.480
I wasn't enjoying my time with the kids as much

00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.340
as I would have liked. I think that's it. I actually

00:48:24.340 --> 00:48:26.639
like that. That's fine. And that's fine, Nikki.

00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:34.190
I still like you. You got it. That's okay. it's

00:48:34.190 --> 00:48:36.909
gonna bite me in the ass on contrary like i actually

00:48:36.909 --> 00:48:39.269
like that that that those things like little

00:48:39.269 --> 00:48:41.130
things that kids were doing like how they were

00:48:41.130 --> 00:48:43.489
talking how they were like the small things and

00:48:43.489 --> 00:48:45.550
then like how teachers are behaving to them i

00:48:45.550 --> 00:48:47.670
think maybe like i was just feeling too nostalgic

00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:50.489
about my school like how how the small things

00:48:50.489 --> 00:48:52.349
like you know like fighting and then becoming

00:48:52.349 --> 00:48:54.690
like you know like then helping each other and

00:48:54.690 --> 00:48:57.349
then like you know just uh yeah like this this

00:48:57.349 --> 00:49:01.360
this gang ganging up yeah against teacher against

00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.699
one weird teacher like no one is being a rattled

00:49:03.699 --> 00:49:07.280
tattletale uh yeah that kind of felt nice i mean

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:11.079
very empowering in a in a childish way i think

00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.940
i kind of felt a little kid was there a staircase

00:49:13.940 --> 00:49:18.780
moment i mean the ending huh the ending would

00:49:18.780 --> 00:49:21.300
qualify as one when you see his situation the

00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:26.260
teacher marie antoinette style I think, yeah,

00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.480
like knowing that he's like seeing the reality

00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:34.159
of his life. For me, honestly, it was when the

00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.840
priest didn't molest the kid in the car. I was

00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.780
like, wow, like that was the biggest surprise

00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:41.820
for me. Honestly, that was the big twist. It's

00:49:41.820 --> 00:49:48.039
not getting worse from here. Yeah. Dance number

00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.619
you said? There was songs. There were no dances.

00:49:53.219 --> 00:49:55.659
In the songs. There was no musical numbers. Yeah,

00:49:55.659 --> 00:49:57.400
it was an hour and a half. For fuck's sake, can't

00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.900
even Stanley in... Because he's going, you know,

00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:04.219
on stage for this festival. Can't he dance to

00:50:04.219 --> 00:50:07.139
a song? We did see him dance briefly. But not

00:50:07.139 --> 00:50:10.039
a Bollywood song. But there was no song playing,

00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.260
right? Like dancing weird. Montage. Yeah, montage.

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:16.719
But that's him dancing. I think they probably

00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.730
added that intentionally to give it some... Indian

00:50:19.730 --> 00:50:22.429
movie spice, a bit of dancing at least. Not enough.

00:50:22.550 --> 00:50:25.929
I think they had to do that because of budget

00:50:25.929 --> 00:50:28.150
issue. I kind of feel that they couldn't pull

00:50:28.150 --> 00:50:30.610
off like a proper, shooting a proper concert.

00:50:30.969 --> 00:50:33.030
His son can't dance. He's like, I'm out of money.

00:50:33.150 --> 00:50:35.809
We have to finish this film. These kids are like

00:50:35.809 --> 00:50:38.769
active for more than one year and I'll have to

00:50:38.769 --> 00:50:41.170
wrap this film up. Just do like one day, just

00:50:41.170 --> 00:50:43.849
book the theater and just do some dances and

00:50:43.849 --> 00:50:46.190
put it on a montage and we'll call it a day.

00:50:46.429 --> 00:50:48.710
But this movie really did not need a dance number.

00:50:48.809 --> 00:50:50.809
it would have just fit in so oddly it would have

00:50:50.809 --> 00:50:52.550
felt like you're trying to intentionally squeeze

00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:54.730
it in just for the sake of having it that's the

00:50:54.730 --> 00:50:59.650
whole point family feud factor what family kind

00:50:59.650 --> 00:51:01.989
of right that's a good point because he has no

00:51:01.989 --> 00:51:05.670
family there's no feud uncle slapping uncle yeah

00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:11.280
yeah yeah there's no feud the dead parents were

00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.900
probably fighting when they got in the motorcycle

00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:14.159
crash but also you see the whole feud between

00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.719
like the students and the teacher it's not a

00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:18.619
family but since the whole movie takes place

00:51:18.619 --> 00:51:22.079
in that school setting that kind of qualifies

00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.960
it's a family it's a conflict it's a family in

00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.159
a what's the film called the racing film Fast

00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.940
and Furious yeah it's a family in a Fast and

00:51:31.940 --> 00:51:35.030
Furious way I feel like we could have explored

00:51:35.030 --> 00:51:38.070
Verma's family. Also... His parents were Paul

00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:39.869
Walker. Actually, that's a really good point.

00:51:39.949 --> 00:51:41.909
The whole movie, we were thinking about why Stanley

00:51:41.909 --> 00:51:45.230
does not bring lunch, right? Nobody ever sits

00:51:45.230 --> 00:51:47.889
and thinks, why does Verma not have lunch? And

00:51:47.889 --> 00:51:48.449
the movie never unpacks that. I thought about

00:51:48.449 --> 00:51:52.050
that the whole time. I did. I would have loved...

00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:54.610
Well, because he's a monster. What if he comes

00:51:54.610 --> 00:51:57.110
from a very sad background and there's like a

00:51:57.110 --> 00:51:59.110
really deep reason? And what if he was deprived

00:51:59.110 --> 00:52:01.309
of food when he was a child and that's why now

00:52:01.309 --> 00:52:03.980
the thought of it makes him so... hungry and

00:52:03.980 --> 00:52:06.320
like impulsive and tempted towards food what

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.420
if he has a tragic backstory you're right he's

00:52:09.420 --> 00:52:11.760
a hero they need to make a sequel stanley kadaba

00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:16.159
2 Verma Kadaba. The Verma origin story. The spiritual

00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:21.019
prequel. It's Verma as the kid not having food.

00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.239
And his friends were like bully and then they

00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.480
didn't give him food. That's what happens. He

00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:28.500
became the bully because he was bullied his whole

00:52:28.500 --> 00:52:30.820
life and now like he doesn't want to bring food

00:52:30.820 --> 00:52:32.780
because he's afraid like he'll get bullied because

00:52:32.780 --> 00:52:35.260
he like makes bad food or something and he doesn't

00:52:35.260 --> 00:52:38.079
have a wife at home. I have a theory, yeah. My

00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.159
theory is like I think he doesn't have a wife

00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.639
at home like it's a very like a bad society so

00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.420
it's like all the women are bringing food because

00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:46.639
they are cooking the food before coming to the

00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.980
work and they also cook for their husbands so

00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:52.659
i think him being a carouse him being like a

00:52:52.659 --> 00:52:54.739
grumpy he's grumpy also because he doesn't have

00:52:54.739 --> 00:52:57.800
a wife i guess and it's like uh both goes hand

00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.539
in hand so he doesn't have a wife so and then

00:53:01.539 --> 00:53:04.539
he doesn't have food it's like he doesn't have

00:53:04.539 --> 00:53:06.639
sex he can't pull his pants up he can't wipe

00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.480
his own ass without a woman what are you gonna

00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:14.800
do man Eat kids' food. I'm just going to a very

00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.940
bad metaphor. I'll not go there anymore. We should

00:53:16.940 --> 00:53:18.860
bring arranged marriages back so these guys don't

00:53:18.860 --> 00:53:23.980
steal the kids' food. Spice level, regional heat

00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:25.940
check. I don't know who's been to Catholic school.

00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.920
You, no? No, Lutheran. Vastly different. Well,

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.780
my school was Catholic. Oh, shit. Okay, how was

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:37.599
it? There was a father. He was very nice. That's

00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.090
cool. Did anyone ever get in a car with him?

00:53:40.469 --> 00:53:44.130
No. But then there was a... I didn't know how

00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:46.469
to go from there. That was a good answer. That

00:53:46.469 --> 00:53:50.250
was a good answer. There was a scandal where...

00:53:50.250 --> 00:53:52.269
I don't know. This has nothing to do with it.

00:53:52.309 --> 00:53:54.170
But there was a scandal where one of the fathers

00:53:54.170 --> 00:54:00.010
used the tuition money to buy a sports car. Oh

00:54:00.010 --> 00:54:01.829
gosh, that sounds like the kind of scandal you'd

00:54:01.829 --> 00:54:04.969
have in Thailand. Yeah, that sports car. That's

00:54:04.969 --> 00:54:07.489
total. That makes sense. But I had nothing to

00:54:07.489 --> 00:54:09.949
do with it. Well, how are you going to get the

00:54:09.949 --> 00:54:11.449
kids to hop in your car if it doesn't look cool?

00:54:12.829 --> 00:54:17.289
They only want to be in a cool race car. I think

00:54:17.289 --> 00:54:19.730
one of the things that brings up this school

00:54:19.730 --> 00:54:24.730
is like this... Back then, when we were in school,

00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:27.289
there were kids from different economic backgrounds,

00:54:27.469 --> 00:54:30.280
which is almost... not present anymore because

00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.260
of the privatization. And like, you know, the

00:54:32.260 --> 00:54:34.940
schools are like a party house or like some kind

00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:36.940
of that, like, you know, you go to like, you

00:54:36.940 --> 00:54:40.039
go to like super expensive, like exclusionary

00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:42.059
school if you're rich. And if you're poor, you

00:54:42.059 --> 00:54:44.019
just go to the public schools. But back in the

00:54:44.019 --> 00:54:46.420
days, like there'd be like public schools and

00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:48.159
there would be like private schools from very

00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:52.619
much prevalent with this kind of missionary schools.

00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.480
So in both of them, like most of the times, like

00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.039
you have like students, from different backgrounds.

00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.219
This is a major number of schools. I mean, they

00:55:02.219 --> 00:55:04.639
still have, like, rich people's schools only

00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.219
then. But I remember that, like, no, we had,

00:55:08.300 --> 00:55:10.280
like, people from different, like, some very

00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.980
rich, some very not that rich, some, like, powerful.

00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.219
You can tell that by the cleanliness of their

00:55:16.219 --> 00:55:19.519
shirts or pants or, like, what kind of school

00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.659
bag they carry or, like, what kind of pencil

00:55:21.659 --> 00:55:24.199
box they have and then, like, all these things.

00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:28.300
And then, yeah, it's okay. Moral of the melodrama?

00:55:28.780 --> 00:55:33.019
Don't eat kids' food. I mean, it depends, right?

00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.420
I mean, I don't know. What is the moral? Sharing

00:55:35.420 --> 00:55:40.460
is caring. Don't be selfish and greedy. And despite

00:55:40.460 --> 00:55:43.159
any hardships and circumstances you have in life,

00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.880
your perspective is what matters most. You can

00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.639
still be happy. Your circumstances don't define

00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:52.380
you. And some people, like his uncle, are just

00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:57.429
assholes. If Stanley wasn't as cool... would

00:55:57.429 --> 00:56:01.090
like, that would suck for his life. People didn't

00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.429
like him, you know, if he wasn't really good

00:56:03.429 --> 00:56:05.869
or his teachers really didn't like, or his teachers

00:56:05.869 --> 00:56:08.750
like loved his stories and stuff. Like he's kind

00:56:08.750 --> 00:56:11.789
of lucky. Yeah. You know, he's resilient, right?

00:56:11.889 --> 00:56:14.329
Like you kind of see him. He's really nice to

00:56:14.329 --> 00:56:16.369
his friends as well. That's why people are nice

00:56:16.369 --> 00:56:19.050
to him back. He's funny. He tells creative stories.

00:56:19.489 --> 00:56:22.409
He's charming in his own way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

00:56:22.409 --> 00:56:24.789
he, he's trying to make the best of the situation

00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:28.260
for sure. I give it four tiffin boxes out of

00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:30.780
five. The stack is supposed to be five tiffin

00:56:30.780 --> 00:56:36.139
boxes. Adam takes everyone tiffin box. Well,

00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:39.099
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