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Welcome to Fear of Stairs, Desi Films Decoded.

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The podcast where four friends from different

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backgrounds unlock the world of Desi cinema.

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I'm Winnie the Desi who's never been to India.

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Hey, I'm Kili. I'm from India. I love films and

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I've never been to Pakistan. I'm Nikki and I've

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never been to India and Pakistan. I'm from Thailand,

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by the way. I'm Adam. I'm from America, by the

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way. And I've never been to Pakistan. I have

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been to India. And today I learned that Salman

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Khan is a huge asshole. Oh, but he played quite

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the opposite in this movie that we're going to

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talk about. He was quite the charmer. You're

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right, which is why I was surprised. But I just

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want to briefly go into this. So that makes him

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a good actor? Just don't sit on the side of the

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street. If you know Salman Khan is driving on

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the road, don't sit on the street. This was our

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first Salman Khan movie, right? Yeah. Yes. And

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yeah, it's good. He plays a nice guy. But when

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I was bringing it up to our friends, they're

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like, oh, yeah, man, he's such an asshole. And

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I have completely unexplored this before. Yeah,

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he has a weird murky past. Well, he ran over,

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was it four people? One died. I don't know if

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more died. His driver was the scapegoat at one

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point. They were going to send him to trial and

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stuff, but he didn't. Of course, he never got

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in trouble for it. And not at one point. He's

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the fall guy. Like, legally. In the court. I

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heard, like, he kind of, like, was the... He

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brought about, like... the body building kind

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of style and image in india like we've seen a

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lot of amir khan films and i heard like those

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are kind of for like the nerdy intellectuals

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and then shower khan is like the cool guy and

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saman khan is like for like the gym bros or something

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yes that's true because uh so he's the mega star

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category right like like at par with amir khan

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and sharukh khan so it's like three khans it's

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like amir khan sharukh khan and salman khan and

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okay so uh salman khan is the guy who used like

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who started ball like getting ripped when the

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other people were not now it's a standard like

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everyone is usually ripped before and salman

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khan is bigger than what used to be but uh when

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no one was Looking into being super ripped, Salman

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Khan was the person. And it's different seeing

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him in this kind of role that we were watching

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as well because he's so used to being this action

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superhero, strong and aggressive. And here he

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kind of plays a very well -mannered, sweet guy.

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And he has a dad bod, right? I don't think he's

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that built in this movie. Do we ever see him?

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No, we do see him. He's, like, a big... He's

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built. He's built. I know, but, like, so when

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we were... And this goes into the intro anyway.

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But, like, when he's all dancing around and fighting

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and stuff, like, I was like, wow, this guy's,

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like, a kind of, you know, not in the best shape

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of his life. He's kind of, like, big and bulky.

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I was, like, surprised he could dance. And then

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finding out he was, like, the gym bro guy was

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very surprising to me because he is, like, I

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don't know. He had a big dad bod this whole movie.

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I felt like he was just a huge... Kind of non

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-ripped dude. I don't know what Adam's talking

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about. He was still pretty hot. But let's do

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a big reveal. We know the type Winnie likes.

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Winnie, out of Shahrukh Khan, Amir Khan, and

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Salman Khan. Amir Khan. Mainly because he's smart,

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socially aware. Has fun eyebrows and stuff. And

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he looks 20 at 50, 60, whatever. You think Salman

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Khan looks good? It's hard to look past his real

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life. I'll admit. So, no. I'd say like he was

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way more handsome when he was younger. I mean,

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not in a way that, oh, when you're young, you're

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handsome. But he used to look like a bit smarter,

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I guess. And he was like way, he has that boyish

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look as well. And very pretty face and also well

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built. Now he kind of looks kind of dumb. He's

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a tall meathead for me. Yeah, that's what he

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looks right now. So what film we are talking

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about? Yeah. uh it's badrangi by john uh it's

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actually in 2015 it's like a film that tries

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to redeem salman khan's reputation i would say

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but more importantly it deals with like this

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uh shall we say uh touchy subject in terms of

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like india pakistani relations yeah uh yeah it

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involves like uh you know salman khan plays this

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this devoted uh religious follower who like goody

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two -shoes as one would say and he finds like

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this mute uh young girl who's from pakistan and

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you know he just has to has to help her find

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her way back home basically that's that's the

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gist of it but i think the the most important

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thing about the movie is that you know it tries

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to show that you know we should have peace among

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your fellow countrymen Yeah, this was recommended

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to us by our Pakistani friends. So, like, this

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is, like, because one guy recommended it, it's

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verified Pakistani approved by all of them. But

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I think, like, I was kind of stunned watching

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it because Salman Khan, I don't know how to say

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this better, but he gives off, like, religious

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blackface or something. Like, you know, like,

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he's very dressed up in, like, the Hindu attire

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and stuff. That's why I was first asking friends,

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like, what is this? Because he's, like, a Muslim,

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right? Like, in real life. Oh, yeah. And then

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he's, like, being this, like, Hindu character.

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And then he meets a Pakistani girl and, like,

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learns, you know, he learns that Pakistanis are

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all right, I guess. It's kind of like the blind

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side in that type of way, right? Like, oh, this

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person learns that this other is actually human.

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But the Pakistani girl never talks. So I'm just

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surprised because it's so leveraged towards India,

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I feel, that I'm surprised Pakistanis like it.

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I'm so surprised to hear you say that. I feel

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like this has been the most balanced Bollywood

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movie I've watched where they don't paint Pakistanis

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negatively at all. Yeah, there was a huge character

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who was a journalist. Right. Who was helping

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him all the time. To be fair, I think what the

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thing is, I didn't realize how racist. most people

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were i guess because from a distance this looks

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like super like wow he they made a pakistani

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a journalist like that's surprising for me to

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hear that that's like an amazing thing for them

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to do you know no i'm saying like uh so they

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had a huge like pakistani characters had a good

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amount of stake in the film so first of all uh

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the journalist and then the the molana from that

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that school that madrasa school where he shelters

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salman khan and hides him from the police looking

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for uh indian quote -unquote indian spy so that's

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that was one character and then the journalist

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was that these two major characters played a

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huge role like saving him from the police and

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the um like military and stuff and also the the

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army guy who would finally let him through the

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border like going against his country's rules

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and regulations so so they were i feel like they

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were like pretty solid character characters from

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pakistani side which kind of like were very human

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and Actually, from the right -wingers, Indians,

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I have seen the comments that apparently this

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film paints Indians in a bad light and Pakistanis

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in a good light. So they cannot... In what way?

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I think you see more kindness when they go to

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Pakistan and they interact with Pakistani citizens

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than you did. Because in India, there was a mixed

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bag, right? There's like the brokers who try

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to... cheat them and then they try to sell her

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off to like a brothel and when they go to pakistan

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side everyone is trying to help them besides

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like the authorities and i think that's also

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done intentionally um yeah that's a good point

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i will say like you know as a person that's just

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getting started with all these like indian movies

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like the portrayal of pakistanis in this movie

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is a lot better than the lao singh chada of course

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it's like way leagues ahead streets ahead Yeah.

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I think another point was that Indians, so when

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they were showing Indian, they were showing Indian

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system is good. People are mixed bag, but Pakistani

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people are good, but their system is bad kind

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of way. That was, that's, that's a very, very

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liberal Indian take. Like people who said, Oh,

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Pakistanis are good people. Their state is bad.

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Is the people are good. This is the, as. as pakistani

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friendly indians can get they will never um i

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mean for many political disturbance reason and

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proven and whatever so they will never stand

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behind pakistani state at all like ever but throughout

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the movie you do see some pakistani authorities

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also showing a very human empathetic approach

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to them so yeah like towards the end and then

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you know we'll get through the plot but i think

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even though there are some authorities that are

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very one side very blind they just want to make

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you know paint a negative picture of him because

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he's indian that isn't the minority and there

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are authorities who also become flexible and

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understanding of their situation but that's only

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when happen when they get rid of their role and

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going against their exactly order so It's still

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the people are good, the system is bad. And it's

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kind of promoting going against your system,

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going against authority for the betterment of

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Indian treatment. So you can be appreciated by

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Indians more. So how does the movie kick off?

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Yeah, we get to see this cricket game. Okay,

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sorry. Immediately I wrote a note because the

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first shot they show you is the cricket game.

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A Pakistani is playing cricket in, like, a village.

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And immediately I was like, oh, they want Indians

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to, like, relate. And show that, like, oh, Pakistanis

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like cricket, too, and we all like cricket, and

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that's, like, our unifying thing. No, no, Pakistanis

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are crazy about cricket. No, I know, I know,

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but they have to kick off showing the Pakistan...

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watching football. So they're like, see, look,

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we all love cricket. Let's acknowledge that.

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Shared love. It's emblematic of shared love.

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That we are the same people. They're not barbarians.

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They watch the same cricket games as us. That's

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how I got it. Never took it that way. So yeah,

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there's this woman watching this cricket game

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and I guess there's a star player. I'm sorry.

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Shahida Pridhi. That guy. Basically, he makes,

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like, a decisive victory. And, you know, that

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woman is about to give birth to a daughter. And

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she names her sort of, like, after that player.

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Her name's, like, Shahida. Which is the guy's

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name then, right? So, that was a weird... Like,

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that's a fun play that they were doing. So, there's,

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like, okay, I'll name my kid after the player

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as Shahid. Of Shahid, right? So... So in their

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psyche, it was already a boy or something like

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that. So I perceived it that way, that they thought

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that it would be a boy and named him Shahid.

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But like later when the character is in the little

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girl introduced that we get to know that her

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name is Shahida. So it's like... Well, the movie,

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the character says, what if it's a girl? And

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she's like, I don't know. And then boom, it's

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a girl and they name it. Oh, okay. So yeah, they

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did think it was a guy. Right. So I guess fast

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forward and, you know, she lives in this like

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very like... picturesque sounds of music hillside

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kind of looking place cashmere cashmere we've

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been talking about that place a lot yeah but

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it looks like the swiss alps yeah it looks like

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the swiss alps and you guys do you guys know

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of this like uh cheese rolling festival in the

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uk it's like it's like uh it's like where people

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just roll down this hill somewhere in like uh

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i think it's like uh it's called cooper's hill

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okay okay yeah so basically she decides to partake

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in that cheese festival and rolled up she rolled

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down the hill and uh you know she kind of like

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fell off the cliff and like because she's mute

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she tries to okay i'm kidding basically she just

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like was playing in those hills and then like

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she rolled off the hill and you know because

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she's mute you know she couldn't like call for

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help and that's that's how we learned of her

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character right that like this she's like she

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has trouble speaking basically they were doing

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a search party and then they managed to find

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her right and then like they went to like they

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they need to like figure out how to help her

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and i think there was like some religious play

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they had to go to like uh delhi to like a temple

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to figure out like what to do yeah to fix her

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to fix her uh side of the islamic school so it's

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like the that kind of place and then the it's

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a darga it's not a mall i mean it's just close

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to the mosque but like yeah so the elder village

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elders asks her to like take to delhi and then

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because he said like oh he it was him or someone

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he knew that he was that old person also was

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mute and as soon as you take them there and then

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it's like they can speak again and then people

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tell him that oh that was before partition like

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that was one country back then but now it's in

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a different country we can go to u .s easier

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than we can go to india so someone says that

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so it's like yeah we are building up to the fact

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that it's all already rolling the fact again

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and again like the cricket that it's the same

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people same group of people we're connected it's

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just the border now that makes us different that's

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the whole message of the film anyway so yeah

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that's going on so they go on to India yeah so

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yeah I think they went on a trip to that temple

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to try and you know get her fixed and I think

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that on the way back they were on a train and

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it was at night time so basically the train stopped

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for repairs and I think it was like Shia manages

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to see this little lamb or goat that was stuck

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in some crevice or something. And she decides

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to go out and help out the poor little creature,

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right? And then I think basically the train starts.

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I don't know. I guess in true cinematic fashion,

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the train just happens to, you know, go with,

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like, continue. How do you say it? The train

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just keeps going. Keeps going. They didn't put

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the siren on. Usually a train before starting,

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they have a siren in India. It was quiet. Everyone's

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sleeping. They're like, no siren for this time.

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Little baby's outside. So Shaira notices she's

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scared that she's getting left behind. She manages

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to run and get on this train. But it turns out

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to be some other train that goes the opposite

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direction. And it basically goes to India. basically

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and that's the way you know that that starts

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that sets off the entire uh plot of the movie

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and you know her mother gets freaked out she

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asked for help from the police who are of no

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use to who have no use or of help whatsoever

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yeah like the train crosses the border they're

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like there's nothing we can do it's basically

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on a planet away we can't do anything because

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this wall or fence or something so good luck.

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Your daughter's fucked. Yeah. No, so they're

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like, we have to talk to, talking to Indian authority.

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And so also Indian, Indian authority sends a

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search party, but the, but Shahida already boarded

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another train. So she's not there anymore. So

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they don't find her. And the mother is like,

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I want to go back, check. And she's like, you

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already used your visa. You need another visa

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again to enter India. And she's like, oh, so

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yeah. So Shahida is just like walking around

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India, right? Like, I think she like, comes across

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like this restaurant and then we get we get introduced

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to like salman khan's character where he plays

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like this guy named pawan pawan yes and like

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you know we get to find out that he's like this

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devoted like brahmin uh follower oh is follow

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the right word from my country we call it hanuman

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so i guess i'll refer to hanuman yeah And basically,

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he's so devoted that he puts his entire faith

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into this religion. Things will work out the

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way they are. He can't do any bad things. He

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can't lie. He can't do things on the sly, as

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the subtitles tend to say. So this brings me

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to a trope I've been noticing in Indian films,

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which is... the hero is a stupid person or something

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like is he stupid well he failed his exams 10

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times yeah but is this noble like is this aspirational

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because he's supposed to be like a super competent

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guy but he acts like he's a child that's like

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never seen the world before and he looks he acts

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dumb well i think the essence is just like you

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don't really have to be smart you just have to

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be a good person And he really embodies that

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kind of like integrity, loyalty, honesty towards

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life. You cannot deny he lives by very strong,

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very, very strong moral values. But that's what

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they want to impress, right? Not that he's like,

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because I don't know, just American movies, the

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heroes. if the hero was stupid like that like

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that level of naive we wouldn't really buy it

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maybe it's to make it more relatable to the general

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audience i mean he's stupid just like me when

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they make clever hero i think they they have

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really hard time writing clever heroes like you

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know like when they make clever hero in doom

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like we no one none of us like none of us like

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the hero i just think it's interesting like the

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behaving childlike seems to be, like, the masculine

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or hero trope. I don't know what you mean by

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childlike, though, because I feel like he plays

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a relatively, like, emotionally mature kind of

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man compared to... He just seems always, like,

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lost and confused and not put together and makes,

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like, weird choices and is confused all the time.

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Don't you get the vibe that he's kind of stupid?

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Like, again, yeah, half the plot point is he

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failed his test so much that his dad kind of,

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like, shoved him out of the house. I think he

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comes off as lovable, and sometimes being a bit

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dumb helps with that. You know, not dumb, but

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just, like, a bit aloof, let's say. I was gonna

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say lovable goofball. Right. He's a goofball.

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It's just not the first time we've seen this

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trope, so I'm curious if this is, like, a common

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thing. It's a very, I would say 50 -50. Like,

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you know, like, it's very common, but it's not

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always the case. I would like to point out one

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more thing here, that, like, when... they were

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showing like his uh his childhood so his father

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was shown as a rss scatter like you know rss

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scatter and i mean okay they show that the whole

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thing very neutrally they don't show anything

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bad or good exceptionally good or anything it

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just shows that he comes from a very strict brahmin

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family can you explain rss scanner oh rss is

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like i mean yeah people it's just like a one

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of the very kind of militant side of hindutva

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organization that is like the backbone of the

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political party that's bjp that's ruling india

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right now so it's their non -political wing but

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they're very politically involved and they had

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a very marquee and very controversial history.

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So it's really interesting that they add this

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reference to RSS in a movie that is kind of showing

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the harmony of coming together of India and Pakistan.

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Yeah. Like, what is your take on that? Why do

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you think that was put in there? I think they're

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taking, like, one extreme of the Indians, like,

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you know, like, because RSS would be staunch

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against Pakistanis, like, you know, like, theoretically.

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But the dad is. Yeah, his uncle. Yeah, yeah,

00:20:15.619 --> 00:20:17.880
whatever. Yeah, so his dad dies. But whatever,

00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:21.420
yeah. His uncle hates the Pakistanis. Yeah, I

00:20:21.420 --> 00:20:24.259
think it's showing that coming from that background,

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he has the heart to change. And so why don't

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you? I think I read it as that. That's a nice

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read of it. He comes from that. family that kind

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of upbringing because i'll come to it like when

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we talk about the story like how the whole hindu

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caste system was kind of referenced the the hatred

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towards meat eaters are kind of referenced throughout

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but in a very light way yet very impactful way

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like it's not making a huge commentary on it

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but like it's just showing as a matter of fact

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way yes but it's while doing it it's actually

00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:03.369
showing like what goes on in this kind of culture

00:21:03.369 --> 00:21:06.849
yeah like the attitudes towards pakistanis pakistanis

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they were like very uh like aberrant attitude

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towards meat eaters right yeah at the beginning

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okay yeah we go on but i guess like the whole

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movie it does this masterful way i would say

00:21:18.829 --> 00:21:22.990
a masterful way of like uh this dispelling myths

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that you have of other people you know yes i

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think that's what how that's the best way to

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explain it uh yeah it is funny sorry you're right

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you're right it's interesting to point out like

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the the indian uncle whatever is kind of the

00:21:37.259 --> 00:21:41.319
villain in the movie a bit yeah yeah he he's

00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.460
the reason that had things happened it happens

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yeah it's kind of bold actually yeah so i'll

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just quickly go over like pawan's like background

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like he basically like like winnie already mentioned

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like he he's this like dumb dumb that like couldn't

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couldn't pass like his exams, and his father

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doesn't, like, expect any better than that. And,

00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:05.819
like, by the time he manages to pass the exam,

00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:07.960
for, like, the 11th time, his father dies of

00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.019
shock, basically. And, like, one thing that he

00:22:11.019 --> 00:22:15.700
likes to do is, like, Salman Khan's character

00:22:15.700 --> 00:22:18.400
is like this. He's not good at anything. Not

00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.000
good at, like, wrestling, like his father expects

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.039
him to. Not good at maths, whatever. So his father

00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.059
dies of shock the moment he passes the exam.

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And then he finds out that he has to go to his

00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.779
father's friend's house, which is like Uncle

00:22:33.779 --> 00:22:36.980
Pandey, I guess. That's what we call him. Basically,

00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:41.880
this uncle is basically like a devout follower

00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:47.380
of Hanuman. And that's where his devotedness

00:22:47.380 --> 00:22:50.940
to this religion comes into play, right? The

00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:53.000
uncle also has, like, a daughter named, like,

00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.140
Rasika, I think. Played by, uh... What was her

00:22:56.140 --> 00:23:00.200
name again? Karina. Karishma Kapoor? Am I saying

00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.680
Karina or Karishma Kapoor? Karina Kapoor. Karina

00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.119
Kapoor. Just say Karishma Kapoor. Wait, wait.

00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:08.839
Karishma Kapoor is her sister and a famous actress.

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Even people not even near that name, he's like...

00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:13.779
And so the main character's name is Karishma.

00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:20.220
The uncle's name is Karishma. Yeah, so, yeah,

00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:23.619
she, they, basically, like, yeah, she has, he

00:23:23.619 --> 00:23:25.700
has a daughter, right, played by Kareena Kapoor,

00:23:25.740 --> 00:23:27.799
and, like, you know, they quickly establish that

00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.000
romance, like, he falls for her, and then, like,

00:23:30.019 --> 00:23:33.160
I think that she was, like, arranged to be married

00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.839
to someone else, but then Uncle Pandey notices

00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:42.039
that they're in love. Like, both Pawan and Rasigar

00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.059
are in love. So he gives Pawan a chance to make

00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:48.740
something of himself so that he is worthy of

00:23:48.740 --> 00:23:51.099
her love. And that is like buying a house, right?

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:54.880
Right, Kiwi? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Just making

00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.240
sure. Fast forward to, like, the present day.

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He finds the Shaida on the street. And, you know,

00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:05.140
he has no choice but to... Kiwi's keeling over

00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:12.529
and dying. Okay. If you end up dying on here

00:24:12.529 --> 00:24:15.049
and you make sounds that ruin the editing, I

00:24:15.049 --> 00:24:18.309
will be so pissed. Please die quietly away from

00:24:18.309 --> 00:24:25.049
the fucking mic. He tries to get her back, but

00:24:25.049 --> 00:24:26.990
because she's mute, there's no way of knowing

00:24:26.990 --> 00:24:29.930
how to get her back, so then he takes her under

00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:33.980
his wing, manages to bring... her back to uh

00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:38.019
pandey's home and pandey is like a strict religious

00:24:38.019 --> 00:24:40.799
guy like he i think at one point he makes sure

00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.720
that it only devoted followers of brahmin lived

00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.099
in that place it's like a like you said it's

00:24:47.099 --> 00:24:49.480
a caste thing isn't it yeah also a religion and

00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.140
caste both so what happens is like when when

00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:55.319
salman khan comes to his house and he can oh

00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.160
i can smell meat what's happening and then they're

00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.359
like oh there is this muhammadan neighbors like

00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:05.680
they eat meat all the time so just ignore like

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.240
we cannot do anything about it like this hatred

00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:11.740
towards meat smell and then he's like i have

00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:13.779
decided like the uncle says like i have decided

00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:18.500
i'll never uh rent to anyone who is from other

00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.339
religion but in the subtitle it says caste so

00:25:22.339 --> 00:25:25.779
but It's most true because like, you know, even

00:25:25.779 --> 00:25:28.740
the, I mean, Hindus eat meat, like different

00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:32.200
caste. So he was kind of saying that whoever

00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.339
eats meat, I will not ever rank them, but it's

00:25:35.339 --> 00:25:37.359
just the neighbor who's cooking. So he's disgust

00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.259
towards meat eaters is like comes again and again.

00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:44.339
And that also comes from Pawan's character as

00:25:44.339 --> 00:25:47.579
well, which he has to overcome gradually. So,

00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:51.240
yeah. I did like, you know, in classic Bollywood

00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.640
fashion, They had Chekhov's, like, meat. So if

00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:57.000
you know they're going to talk about it a lot,

00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:59.180
there's going to be, like, a song and dance number

00:25:59.180 --> 00:26:02.059
specifically about eating meat later. That's

00:26:02.059 --> 00:26:05.779
a good setup. There's a lot of Chekhov's. When

00:26:05.779 --> 00:26:08.819
they sing about chicken the whole time? I don't

00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:12.099
know. I might have voted through the songs. That's

00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:14.500
fine. There's a whole chicken song about eating

00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:17.500
meat. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, it was very hard

00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:22.920
to miss. Literally all about chicken. Only. The

00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.980
girl follows him back, and then, you know, he

00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:29.019
starts noticing things about her, you know? Like,

00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:30.740
he was trying to... So, like, they play a little...

00:26:30.740 --> 00:26:32.619
Like, there are scenes where he's trying to play

00:26:32.619 --> 00:26:34.700
a game with her, where he would, like, just say

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.980
Indian city names, right? And then, like, you

00:26:38.980 --> 00:26:40.579
know, just so that he could deduce where she

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:44.259
lives, and he could not get it right. And basically,

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.140
like, throughout the movie, like, throughout

00:26:46.140 --> 00:26:49.150
in this part, basically, like, he... I'm saying

00:26:49.150 --> 00:26:52.769
basically a lot. Throughout the movie, he notices

00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:54.809
these little things about her. Where it's like,

00:26:55.069 --> 00:27:04.710
she goes to this Muslim neighbor's home to eat

00:27:04.710 --> 00:27:07.769
meat. And then she goes to the temple to pray.

00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.539
wearing the veil she moves to the Dargah like

00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:15.519
Muslim place next to the temple yeah that's it

00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.259
and then that's when and then also like you know

00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:20.819
when there's a scene where like they're all watching

00:27:20.819 --> 00:27:23.099
the cricket game and then like when Pakistan

00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:25.779
won the game she was the only one that was like

00:27:25.779 --> 00:27:28.200
cheering and that's how they're able to deduce

00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.819
yeah able to deduce like super subtle he's like

00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:36.599
i think based off the subtle clues of her worshiping

00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.200
a muslim god like cheering on the pakistani team

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.599
and eating meat maybe maybe she's pakistani frames

00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:47.369
it I'm sorry. I think it kind of unfolded in

00:27:47.369 --> 00:27:50.450
layers. Yeah, exactly. First, she's like meat

00:27:50.450 --> 00:27:54.230
eater. I remember that scene when first she's

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:56.630
a meat eater. So they cannot fathom, wrap around

00:27:56.630 --> 00:27:59.029
their head that she can be Muslim. So he's still

00:27:59.029 --> 00:28:02.920
like... oh she may be like a Kshatriya caste

00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.000
like you know which is another top caste but

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.880
they eat meat so it's because she's quote unquote

00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.519
fair like she's light skinned so she cannot be

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.700
from lower caste I love that scene because it

00:28:12.700 --> 00:28:16.240
matter of factly shows like the thought process

00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.160
of the casteist thought process of Indians and

00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.160
like he's like oh she's maybe like Kshatriya

00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.720
but look how fair she is she's definitely that

00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.779
then and then She so that's one layer and the

00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:34.180
next layer is when she goes to the Dargah Like

00:28:34.180 --> 00:28:37.500
where the Muslims pray and then he cannot even

00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:40.220
utter the word that she's a Muslim. She's like

00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:44.740
She's that she's that like he can't even say

00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:46.480
that she's Muslim. Yeah, he can't even go in

00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.400
the temple He's like, yeah, he's freaked out

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.380
and then That's another layer. So like it's like

00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:55.680
removal of layer of hatred. It's like first meat

00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.579
-eaters. Okay she's meat eater okay next layer

00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:01.839
she's muslim and third layer okay she's not even

00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.099
muslim from india she's muslim from pakistan

00:29:04.099 --> 00:29:06.640
so that's where like oh my god worst nightmare

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.880
this is a train terrorist baby i think there

00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:11.740
was also a moment where she was like stealing

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:15.039
like a bracelet and then like he has he he like

00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.460
pawan orders her to like pray and apologize to

00:29:18.460 --> 00:29:21.359
god yeah right and that was another thing that

00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.480
that uh you know that she didn't want to do and

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.180
then like The scene when he went to see her in

00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:31.740
the temple, basically, she was reading the Quran,

00:29:31.940 --> 00:29:35.200
I think. She was praying the Muslim prayer. Do

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.180
you remember the final test where he gave her

00:29:37.180 --> 00:29:39.339
a pad of paper and a pen and was like, draw Muhammad?

00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.519
And she's like, no. I think I know what she is.

00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.539
That's a very... That's a joke. It's a joke.

00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:54.750
Yeah. So he decides... remember then like once

00:29:54.750 --> 00:29:56.529
he figures out she's pakistani he gives her some

00:29:56.529 --> 00:30:00.549
money and she leaves straight into the brothel

00:30:00.549 --> 00:30:03.730
right well yeah no no but he he gets like an

00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:06.690
agency to take her across and it's insane that

00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:09.750
he is gonna let her go by herself you know she's

00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:12.150
like she looks like she's 10 or something right

00:30:12.150 --> 00:30:14.769
like she's a young girl and he's just gonna send

00:30:14.769 --> 00:30:16.650
her off with this old adult man and the whole

00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:18.750
time you can see her like crying she obviously

00:30:18.750 --> 00:30:22.109
had like negative instincts towards this and

00:30:22.109 --> 00:30:24.589
it's really funny though because yeah he's like

00:30:24.589 --> 00:30:26.869
i need to see you know i need to like send her

00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:28.470
off or whatever and he sees that she's like in

00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:30.410
the little carriage and goes straight to like

00:30:30.410 --> 00:30:34.089
taj mahal hotel or whatever right in the seedy

00:30:34.089 --> 00:30:36.970
area and he goes in and coming from salam bombay

00:30:36.970 --> 00:30:38.869
you know where we're used to like all these like

00:30:38.869 --> 00:30:41.990
realistic brothels and and shit and then he goes

00:30:41.990 --> 00:30:45.369
and she's just instantly like boom in there like

00:30:46.220 --> 00:30:49.160
She is, like, the prized version, like, prostitute

00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.039
all over again. And this is where you see Salman

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.680
Khan become Salman Khan that we all know and

00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.779
love. He does, like, Steven Seagal fights in

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:58.799
this one, though. He's not that active, I feel

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.299
like. Adam was not impressed. No, I was not,

00:31:01.460 --> 00:31:04.059
dude. Before the brothel scene, there is a scene,

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:07.079
like, where he takes her to the Pakistani embassy.

00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.380
Oh, thank you. They said, basically, like, she

00:31:11.380 --> 00:31:14.720
can't get a passport. She can't get a visa without

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.980
a passport. And that I guess I don't know if

00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:20.200
that process is like that. No, of course. It's

00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.180
like it does take a passport. I mean, she if

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:24.740
she wants to go to Pakistan back, she needs her

00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:26.440
passport, but her passport definitely with her

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.839
mother back in Pakistan. But like at that point,

00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.140
the embassy shuts down because there is an attack

00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:37.220
by the right wing Hindutva gang. So there is

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:39.420
the thing like, yeah, they never connected the

00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:42.440
both dots. That is like the similar. thing that

00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.480
someone comes himself come from but he's like

00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.599
coming from that kind of family but he is saving

00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.799
the little girl from that uh those goons were

00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.059
attacking pakistan what was the riot about no

00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:59.059
it wasn't right like i think something some some

00:31:59.059 --> 00:32:03.339
like political thing going on between india and

00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:06.160
pakistan at that point of time so these people

00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.400
were like attacking pakistani embassy and closing

00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.839
it down saying that like you know we don't want

00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.880
pakistanis here or something but wasn't saman

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.359
khan the reason why it closed down no no no i

00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.900
thought he was up he he was just there and then

00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:20.900
at that point uh by chance that was the exact

00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:23.839
time like when these goons like uh right -wing

00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.099
goons attacks pakistani embassy so the pakistani

00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:28.720
embassy says like they're closed for a month

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.519
so that's why he takes the asian route that where

00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.559
he said like they're gonna deliver the kid to

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.740
pakistan and he believes that and he did use

00:32:36.740 --> 00:32:38.619
all his savings right he was saving money to

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:41.700
buy this house so that he could marry marry karina

00:32:41.700 --> 00:32:45.339
yeah and then he uses the most of it to gives

00:32:45.339 --> 00:32:47.460
the most of it to this broker to take shahida

00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:50.160
back what was he working as in six months like

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.220
without just with the college education he can

00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:55.119
buy a house with six months education collecting

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.759
tied dude is is it that hard for to be an indian

00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.859
go to pakistan is it hard to get a visa that

00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:05.799
point was not hard but they were showing that

00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.359
she cannot go because she doesn't have passport

00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.980
okay cool let's let's skip to go and she's in

00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:13.180
pakistan or something okay because because sending

00:33:13.180 --> 00:33:16.480
the girl off to some travel agency ended up and

00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.799
made her end up in a brothel he decided to take

00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.940
matters into his own hands by bringing her to

00:33:20.940 --> 00:33:24.119
pakistan himself okay and then like he he's on

00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.180
the border right and then i think we meet like

00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:28.839
a couple of smugglers on a jeep i don't know

00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.609
how that is not like very like like they're standing

00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:35.890
out or whatever but that's very realistic is

00:33:35.890 --> 00:33:38.230
it realistic i think so on camels and shit you

00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:40.369
see the do people ride camels around there too

00:33:40.369 --> 00:33:44.049
yeah it's a desert yeah okay yeah uh and they

00:33:44.049 --> 00:33:46.130
decided to like help him like and then i guess

00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:48.690
through like this border like it's like a very

00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:51.049
wide open desert right and then there's like

00:33:51.049 --> 00:33:54.650
a like a huge barbed fence barbed wire probably

00:33:54.650 --> 00:33:58.079
made of plastic Who knows? I have noticed that

00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:59.940
every time now I see barbed wire, I'm like, huh,

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.619
okay, that's probably not real. Movie magic ruined.

00:34:02.940 --> 00:34:04.700
And then, like, they have, like, these little

00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:07.799
tunnels that they go through to get to the other

00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.179
side. Basically, like, but, you know, like what

00:34:11.179 --> 00:34:13.780
Winnie said, this is where his, like, devotion

00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:16.880
to Hanuman comes into play. It's like he refuses

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.019
to step any further than after crossing because,

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.000
you know, he doesn't want to do anything shady.

00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:27.340
So he has to wait. so he ends up like standing

00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:29.699
there like a sitting duck and then getting caught

00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:33.019
by like the the border border patrol basically

00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:37.179
and like you have this like really long uh standoff

00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:40.679
where he he's trying like pawan is trying to

00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.099
get the border patrol to give him permission

00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:46.219
to cross the border because you know once you

00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:49.139
get permission it's no longer like a shady thing

00:34:49.769 --> 00:34:52.210
Like, doing things on the sly, as one would say.

00:34:52.269 --> 00:34:53.650
Even though, like, he doesn't get, like, written

00:34:53.650 --> 00:34:55.489
permission, so who's gonna believe him? Like,

00:34:55.550 --> 00:34:57.510
the Border Patrol said I could. He didn't get

00:34:57.510 --> 00:34:59.329
his name written. It was more of a moral ground

00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:01.289
than a legal ground, right? I get it. He just

00:35:01.289 --> 00:35:02.989
needed permission. This is, again, the trope,

00:35:02.989 --> 00:35:04.929
though, of, like, dumb idiot. Like, this reminded

00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:07.489
me of such an Amir Khan scene where he's just,

00:35:07.550 --> 00:35:09.829
like, honest to a fault, and he's like, I came

00:35:09.829 --> 00:35:11.489
through with the smuggler. His name is this.

00:35:11.809 --> 00:35:13.769
And then, like, I came through this tunnel, and

00:35:13.769 --> 00:35:15.710
he, like, points at it, and just is, like, giving

00:35:15.710 --> 00:35:19.170
away, like, exactly how he got there. poorly

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:21.250
might have been imprisoned by now oh he like

00:35:21.250 --> 00:35:23.769
totally ratted out a guy that guy's life is ruined

00:35:23.769 --> 00:35:26.690
they they closed up like the way for other people

00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:30.110
to leave and escape like thanks dude yeah yeah

00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:32.750
that was a very bad move yeah he fucking ruined

00:35:32.750 --> 00:35:35.809
the lives of so many people just so many smugglers

00:35:35.809 --> 00:35:38.469
no but it shows his devotion it shows his character

00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:42.210
i guess in a very goofy extreme way yeah it's

00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:44.789
showing he's does like things very unnecessary

00:35:44.789 --> 00:35:47.949
things that like anyone with a little bit of

00:35:48.590 --> 00:35:52.829
like intelligence would not do and he sabotaged

00:35:52.829 --> 00:35:55.510
his own plan that he has to take the girl back

00:35:55.510 --> 00:35:58.489
to her parents and he sabotages that mission

00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:02.920
by just being very honest that that he's like

00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.079
doing that again and again yeah and to be that

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.500
to be that level of honest you need to be a little

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:09.280
bit dumb right you're not going to stand at the

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.820
border and wait for her cards to give you it

00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:13.699
isn't the other country's border it's the pakistani

00:36:13.699 --> 00:36:15.900
border if more people did this i think we'd have

00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:19.239
less problems oh i hope nobody tried this this

00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.559
is a very bad i hope they all just stand at the

00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.570
border waiting for ice to come And then the movie

00:36:24.570 --> 00:36:26.630
also shows the Pakistani guards showing some

00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:29.250
empathy and humanity and eventually giving him

00:36:29.250 --> 00:36:32.010
that permission, which is very hard to believe

00:36:32.010 --> 00:36:34.730
and paints Pakistanis in a very positive light.

00:36:35.309 --> 00:36:38.809
That's why our friend likes it. Now enters into

00:36:38.809 --> 00:36:42.710
Pakistani, some small town or village. So they

00:36:42.710 --> 00:36:44.809
managed to get in after with all the permission,

00:36:45.130 --> 00:36:49.369
the coercion to permission. Basically, they end

00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:52.349
up in a town, right? And like, I guess like,

00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.039
Shieda is like a kleptomaniac because she likes

00:36:56.039 --> 00:37:00.719
to to like take bracelets and handcuffs and of

00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.659
course she like manages to well I mean she's

00:37:02.659 --> 00:37:08.119
Pakistani whoa whoa that just undid everything

00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.860
the movie was trying to do shoot a character

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:12.579
guys they have to show her you know they can't

00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:16.219
make her that angelic she's a child yeah that's

00:37:16.219 --> 00:37:18.619
why it's her base instincts go on she nicked

00:37:18.619 --> 00:37:22.219
like this she nicked this police policemen's

00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:26.760
uh handcuffs and you know he it ends up with

00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.719
pawan getting in trouble for it and he could

00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.539
not like uh procure a passport even though he

00:37:32.539 --> 00:37:35.119
keeps saying that he's in he's he's being honest

00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.440
about it he wouldn't lie that he's indian and

00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.260
shaheed is like a pakistani girl no they just

00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.780
throw his ass to jail shaheed keeps telling him

00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:46.179
to lie she's like shut the fuck up and he's like

00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:49.449
no yeah he doesn't listen to the girl no at this

00:37:49.449 --> 00:37:51.050
point she has more street smarts than he'll ever

00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:53.429
have in his life at six years old and then this

00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:55.050
is the point where we get introduced to another

00:37:55.050 --> 00:37:57.969
major character which keely says has a connection

00:37:57.969 --> 00:38:01.809
to some viral video his name is like chan nawab

00:38:01.809 --> 00:38:04.289
and we get we get an introduction where he's

00:38:04.289 --> 00:38:07.929
like standing and reporting on this like train

00:38:07.929 --> 00:38:10.670
station and people just kept like walking through

00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:14.369
his his uh reporting yeah so chandra is like

00:38:14.369 --> 00:38:17.909
a real person uh he became like a viral viral

00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:20.909
because of this weird video that he's trying

00:38:20.909 --> 00:38:24.190
to shoot it's like a very local news news uh

00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:26.989
journalist and then like tried to record this

00:38:26.989 --> 00:38:29.610
news bite where he's getting like obstructed

00:38:29.610 --> 00:38:32.429
by people walking and in the in the platform

00:38:33.099 --> 00:38:35.980
So it was very funny, actually, the actual footage.

00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:38.059
The actual video was funny. Yeah, it was very

00:38:38.059 --> 00:38:39.739
funny. But they recreated it and I didn't laugh.

00:38:39.980 --> 00:38:42.699
Yeah, because, yeah, it was, like, just a reference.

00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:45.239
I mean, imagine that's actually happening in

00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.840
real life and someone, and it goes on for long.

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:50.179
Like, he really tries to, like, make the news

00:38:50.179 --> 00:38:53.400
in a very stupid way and then, like, he can just

00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.780
record it. And people will be asking, like, why

00:38:55.780 --> 00:38:57.440
is he recording? Why is he not going somewhere

00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.780
else and recording? So that's a very weird viral

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:03.119
meme. That's why it was viral. So they just recreate

00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.860
that scene again in the film. And without context,

00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.840
it doesn't make any sense. That's why you guys

00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.300
didn't laugh. But I think it worked in India

00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:13.880
because that was already a very viral meme. So

00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:20.579
it's like, okay, it's a tip to the viral meme.

00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.119
The internet watchers. Yeah. I saw that scene

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.000
and I'm like, is this a deleted scene they forgot

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.440
to delete or something? But basically, like,

00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:30.880
China Wang, he's this reporter who's trying to

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.760
make it big. And, like, he was trying to frame

00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.679
that Pawan is, like, a spy. Like, a spy for India.

00:39:40.900 --> 00:39:43.320
Like, spying Pakistan. So he tries to get into

00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.519
the... He tries to get the scoop. And, like,

00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.480
I think there was, like, a... They managed to,

00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.079
like... Like, basically, Pawan manages to escape

00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.460
from the jail. And I think there's a scene where,

00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.750
like... the reporter was kind of, like, following,

00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:02.409
stalking him into a bus. And, like, he starts

00:40:02.409 --> 00:40:06.070
to notice how honest Pawan is and, like, there's,

00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:07.889
you know, that maybe this guy isn't actually

00:40:07.889 --> 00:40:10.670
a spy and that he wants to, like, get this girl

00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:14.769
back home. So he decides to, like, assist Pawan

00:40:14.769 --> 00:40:19.510
and Shaida to get her back home, basically. Yeah,

00:40:19.630 --> 00:40:21.900
I thought... I don't know who the actor is, but

00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:25.820
he was pretty awesome. Like, he just, like, I

00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:27.960
think there was a lot of, like, I felt like,

00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:31.039
I could feel like he, at first I thought he looked

00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.000
like a jerk, but then, like, he managed to do,

00:40:33.059 --> 00:40:36.599
like, a flip, change of character, like, change

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.159
of heart. He wasn't a caricature. He was his

00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.119
own character. He was three -dimensional. Like,

00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.079
and he was smart. He's smarter than, like, anyone

00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.880
else in the film. He's a really amazing character,

00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.460
actor. Nawazuddin Siddiqui, yeah. Is he Indian?

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:54.659
I think everything about this film was Indian,

00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.840
casting -wise and location -wise. I think that's

00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.699
why they never showed any city in Pakistan because

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:05.539
they never shot in Pakistan. It's basically like

00:41:05.539 --> 00:41:09.119
you can find every place in India. So I think

00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.880
it was just shot in India. I think a lot of this

00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.340
was in Punjab, right? Yeah, it was in Punjab.

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:16.000
It was in Rajasthan. It's like in Kashmir as

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.849
well. So they escaped the police station, but

00:41:19.849 --> 00:41:23.349
not leaving. They didn't leave without this calendar

00:41:23.349 --> 00:41:25.730
that they had. And that calendar was showing

00:41:25.730 --> 00:41:29.070
the Swiss Alps or something. And that was the

00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:33.190
thing that made Shia get all excited. So that's

00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:37.110
where our characters tried to find the location,

00:41:37.150 --> 00:41:41.090
basically. And then I think at some point during

00:41:41.090 --> 00:41:44.360
their travels, they ended up at a mosque. yeah

00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.699
at a mosque where like they meet like these nice

00:41:46.699 --> 00:41:51.239
uh holy men yeah those guys were fucking cool

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.340
yeah the guy with shades was rad yeah he's a

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.659
maulana like he's a it's a madrasa i guess like

00:41:56.659 --> 00:42:00.920
a mosque adjacent school so so there is one another

00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.860
change of character happens because in hindu

00:42:03.860 --> 00:42:07.159
brahmin like his mindset like he cannot enter

00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:11.820
a mosque right because it's like very exclusionary

00:42:12.349 --> 00:42:14.670
that religion that like no other people cannot

00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:18.670
come in it would be dirty by them but so he was

00:42:18.670 --> 00:42:21.550
not entering and then that mosque people were

00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:24.269
like no you can just come in doesn't matter if

00:42:24.269 --> 00:42:26.570
you are not a muslim like you can just come here

00:42:26.570 --> 00:42:28.809
it was everyone is welcome here they're very

00:42:28.809 --> 00:42:31.469
friendly welcoming open he was like a cool uncle

00:42:31.469 --> 00:42:35.050
i i wanted to go there yeah it was nice yeah

00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:37.170
i think that's the thing that what what made

00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:40.820
the movie great for me is like i start to learn

00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:43.960
more about how you know indians view pakistanis

00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.099
in general like stereotyping i guess and then

00:42:47.099 --> 00:42:50.099
like the movie does this like like really nice

00:42:50.099 --> 00:42:52.840
way where it's not really in your face but it's

00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.320
just more like you know they tried to dispel

00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.420
myths like what i said you know and i think one

00:42:57.420 --> 00:42:59.880
of them is like you know pakistanis are kind

00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:03.800
you know so ursa you're listening you're a kind

00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.980
funny Shout out to our only Pakistani friend.

00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.079
Despite all the hate you learned in school, I'm

00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.219
glad that you can accept us as people. So anyway,

00:43:14.340 --> 00:43:16.860
the people in the mosque, they decided to help

00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:21.920
Pohan and Shahida escape by letting them wear

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.480
burqa, I think. Yes, Samakan's in a burqa. Gotta

00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:32.989
get that joke in. Yeah. I think... I think he

00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:34.989
feels weird about it, right? Like, he just didn't

00:43:34.989 --> 00:43:36.730
want to be in a burqa. I think he made a big

00:43:36.730 --> 00:43:40.929
fuss about that. He's a big baby. Yeah. And,

00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:42.610
you know, they... Well, and let's say why, actually.

00:43:42.690 --> 00:43:45.250
Let's say why. Because he lies so much that they

00:43:45.250 --> 00:43:46.969
made him wear the burqa so that he'd be, like,

00:43:46.989 --> 00:43:49.230
in the woman role and shut up. Because they...

00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:51.210
He cannot lie. You said he lies so much. Oh,

00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:53.349
yeah. Sorry, sorry. Because he's so honest, like,

00:43:53.389 --> 00:43:55.389
to shut him up, they put him in a burqa so he

00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:56.809
wouldn't talk and the other guy would talk and

00:43:56.809 --> 00:44:00.570
lie instead. and throughout throughout the throughout

00:44:00.570 --> 00:44:04.230
their travels right now the the journalists uh

00:44:04.230 --> 00:44:08.530
same from chan chan yeah yeah he basically like

00:44:08.530 --> 00:44:10.929
at first he wanted to pitch the story to like

00:44:10.929 --> 00:44:13.690
lots of new news news outlets that you know this

00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:16.590
guy's a spy but then as soon as he realized that

00:44:16.590 --> 00:44:18.730
there's a touching story about you know reunion

00:44:18.730 --> 00:44:22.329
and family like uh nobody wants it so where does

00:44:22.329 --> 00:44:26.429
he turn to the internet youtube youtube the power

00:44:26.429 --> 00:44:29.480
of the internet in an internet cafe internet

00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.960
cafe wi -fi is fast i started thinking about

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.179
the wi -fi there this would be for cell phones

00:44:35.179 --> 00:44:36.820
he has like a digital camera and he has to like

00:44:36.820 --> 00:44:39.059
go to some old internet cafe and like plug it

00:44:39.059 --> 00:44:41.000
in and there's like the slow uploading and stuff

00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:45.719
yeah very advanced in a remote area i can still

00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.619
like that yeah and you know he but so and then

00:44:49.619 --> 00:44:52.280
they they figured out that like His cameraman

00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.760
got detained by the police. So they're using

00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.280
the cameraman as a guy to get the information

00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.239
of where they are. So throughout the movie, they

00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.059
were trying to deceive them by giving them false

00:45:05.059 --> 00:45:11.079
information. And at one point, they realized

00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.440
that they ended up at a place called... I think

00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.440
it's like Sultanpur. Is that the actual place?

00:45:18.789 --> 00:45:21.030
sultanpur sultanpur yeah i don't know i don't

00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:22.469
know i think it was a place but like they were

00:45:22.469 --> 00:45:25.469
they like almost brush like they came across

00:45:25.469 --> 00:45:28.809
their uh shahida's mom through while documenting

00:45:28.809 --> 00:45:31.809
right yeah yeah and then uh that's when they

00:45:31.809 --> 00:45:35.309
realized that they're like close by She gets

00:45:35.309 --> 00:45:38.210
down from a bus and then they go to the bus the

00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:41.750
next morning and ask like what station, like

00:45:41.750 --> 00:45:43.550
what, what, what villages or towns they're coming

00:45:43.550 --> 00:45:46.489
from. Like all the, they ask the bus driver to

00:45:46.489 --> 00:45:49.570
list all the names. And then as soon as Aida

00:45:49.570 --> 00:45:52.889
hears Sultanpur, she goes like ecstatic. That's

00:45:52.889 --> 00:45:55.429
my village. That's my village. Yeah. So that's

00:45:55.429 --> 00:45:57.869
how they get to know finally. The whole movie

00:45:57.869 --> 00:46:00.789
is like one big guess who for her. It's all yes

00:46:00.789 --> 00:46:02.929
or no questions until they figure out where her

00:46:02.929 --> 00:46:06.139
home is. So you get like the group splits up,

00:46:06.219 --> 00:46:08.820
right? I think it was Pawan who tries to distract

00:46:08.820 --> 00:46:12.480
the police while Chan manages to bring Shida

00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.139
back home to the Swiss Alps. Far, far away. I'm

00:46:16.139 --> 00:46:19.260
just kidding. To her home, basically. To the

00:46:19.260 --> 00:46:23.340
Von Trapp family. But that doesn't stop there.

00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:25.880
Even though she reunited and everyone manages

00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.920
to see the documentary that Chan made on YouTube,

00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.739
the only problem is that Pawan gets detained

00:46:31.739 --> 00:46:35.769
by the police. and they want to continue framing

00:46:35.769 --> 00:46:40.949
him that he's a spy which is a i think you know

00:46:40.949 --> 00:46:42.949
it's weird it's a it's a very harrowing moment

00:46:42.949 --> 00:46:45.730
i i don't know if police do that sort of thing

00:46:45.730 --> 00:46:50.429
in real life all the time i just want to be hopeful

00:46:50.429 --> 00:46:54.510
maybe accusing everyone of spying um yeah and

00:46:54.510 --> 00:46:57.690
i think you get to see like uh like waterboarding

00:46:57.690 --> 00:47:02.179
and like like uh It is. I'm sorry. I was, like,

00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:04.340
laughing so hard because the fucking montage

00:47:04.340 --> 00:47:06.460
was so funny when, like, he's getting beat up

00:47:06.460 --> 00:47:09.659
and she's, like, hugging her family in the same

00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:12.059
exact moment. It was, like, really hard to know

00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:15.079
which emotion to feel because, like, happy for

00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:16.980
her and then Samakash is getting, like, beat

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:19.739
up and tortured and stuff. Because of this Indian

00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:22.659
man sacrifice. Yeah. Pakistani girl gets to read

00:47:22.659 --> 00:47:25.659
that. Why won't the Pakistanis understand? But,

00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:27.639
like, you know, the police was trying to deceive

00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.820
the public into thinking that, you know, he's

00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:32.659
a bad guy. But because of what Chan did, like,

00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:35.340
putting out the story of him trying to return

00:47:35.340 --> 00:47:37.599
Shida back home, you know, it moves the people.

00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.059
People are not, you know, fooled that easily.

00:47:40.219 --> 00:47:43.820
And then we get to see them, to see all the public

00:47:43.820 --> 00:47:49.159
rally behind to get to let the police free Pawan,

00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.769
right? Am I going too fast? No, we got to wrap

00:47:53.769 --> 00:47:55.949
up anyway. I got to go. For the dramatic end

00:47:55.949 --> 00:47:57.530
scene. So the dramatic end scene is, like, you

00:47:57.530 --> 00:48:01.349
get to see this border at the Swiss Alps. This

00:48:01.349 --> 00:48:04.909
nice border. Then you have one side India, one

00:48:04.909 --> 00:48:08.909
side Pakistan. And, you know, like, Pawan comes

00:48:08.909 --> 00:48:11.949
in, like, you know, a free man. Everyone rallies

00:48:11.949 --> 00:48:15.849
to him. But not before, like, you know, Shahida,

00:48:15.949 --> 00:48:18.739
you know, she sees. She sees Salman Khan and

00:48:18.739 --> 00:48:21.519
wants to thank him for not running over her.

00:48:23.500 --> 00:48:26.539
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Don't laugh. That's

00:48:26.539 --> 00:48:28.480
such a bad joke. Don't worry, that goes to the

00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:32.000
top of the episode. Basically, she sees... Okay,

00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.239
I need to be touchy about this. She sees Salman

00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.019
Khan about to cross the border, but not before

00:48:40.019 --> 00:48:43.940
yelling him... Yelling uncle, I think? Uncle.

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.320
Uncle, yes. Because some guy was, like, twisting

00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.300
her arm, actually, and he just said, you have

00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:50.039
to say uncle, and then she did it. It wasn't

00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.360
about summertime. Well, no, her voice comes out

00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.659
almost like megaphone -like. It's so dramatic

00:48:55.659 --> 00:48:58.480
and loud and echoey, and she just repeats it,

00:48:58.500 --> 00:49:01.880
like, three, four times. There's a thousand people

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.920
rushing through the border yelling, breaking,

00:49:05.059 --> 00:49:06.860
like, through the fences, and this little girl

00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:09.420
screams uncle, and he just hears it like a piercing

00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:11.639
shot and turns. That's the... connection of her

00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.139
yeah yeah it's also six years worth of voice

00:49:14.139 --> 00:49:19.460
that never got out yeah so probably and you know

00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:21.699
he turns around and you know they they just have

00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:25.219
one freeze frame moment where they you know embrace

00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.659
and yeah you know i think that's just i think

00:49:27.659 --> 00:49:28.960
the message of the movie is that you know be

00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.059
kind to one another well he's like throwing her

00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:33.340
up in the air yeah and it just looks like another

00:49:33.340 --> 00:49:36.940
like simba moment there's so many lion king moments

00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:40.320
look i think i think the way i'm did you cry

00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:43.320
i i cried the first time i watched it with my

00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.599
mom in the cinema like when this was first released

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.760
in 2015 and i think we both cried back then and

00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.000
cried and who like she wasn't she didn't understand

00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.309
much but she understood that She was crying.

00:49:54.869 --> 00:49:56.889
Shahida was not saying anything. She was not

00:49:56.889 --> 00:49:59.030
listening to anything. Everyone was connected.

00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:03.869
I think this is the kind of movie you don't really

00:50:03.869 --> 00:50:07.150
need to understand. It's pretty easy. The way

00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:09.949
I'm describing it right now, it sounds like it's

00:50:09.949 --> 00:50:11.769
a bit rushed, but if you really take the time

00:50:11.769 --> 00:50:14.610
to watch the movie, it's such a tear -jerking

00:50:14.610 --> 00:50:17.969
moment. You want this girl to get back home safely.

00:50:18.170 --> 00:50:23.079
You want Salman Khan to be absolved of his crimes.

00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:28.420
In real life and in the movies. Yeah, it's great.

00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.260
I'm just going to put it out there, but at the

00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:34.860
time of recording, my country, Thailand, is going

00:50:34.860 --> 00:50:38.960
through a very serious conflict right now with

00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.199
our neighbors, Cambodia. All I can say is that

00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:47.039
I hope there's a quick resolution to this conflict.

00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.389
I don't want any more civilians to be hurt. And

00:50:50.389 --> 00:50:54.050
I just think that when I watched the movie, I

00:50:54.050 --> 00:50:56.670
thought of the conflict. I mean, I think it's

00:50:56.670 --> 00:50:59.750
easy to say that when I see the conflict between

00:50:59.750 --> 00:51:03.909
Indians and Pakistanis, I think of my country

00:51:03.909 --> 00:51:06.949
and Cambodians. It's quite similar in a way.

00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:10.489
I mean, our conflict has been running for centuries.

00:51:10.889 --> 00:51:14.590
This is an ongoing issue. It just has escalated

00:51:14.590 --> 00:51:17.630
and peaked to the point where you just see it

00:51:17.630 --> 00:51:20.659
all the time now. Yeah, and Burma, too, like,

00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:22.179
on the borders. Like, it's always some weird

00:51:22.179 --> 00:51:25.059
border tension. Very unnecessary, you know? Yeah.

00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.079
And we've been recording in this bunker the whole

00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.179
time. And, like, we're running out of gummies.

00:51:30.260 --> 00:51:31.820
And, like, it's been... I would like this to

00:51:31.820 --> 00:51:34.920
stop as well, the shelling. But, like, going

00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:36.360
back to the movie, I think it's so interesting

00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:39.000
that this was released in 2015. When I think

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.960
that was also kind of when the Hinduva moment

00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.420
was gaining a lot of traction. And BJP was kind

00:51:44.420 --> 00:51:46.659
of, like, on the rise. They were getting more

00:51:46.659 --> 00:51:49.199
support. And so... It's interesting that they

00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.699
released this in such a positive light. And I

00:51:51.699 --> 00:51:53.900
think it can have a very positive impact. I kind

00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:57.480
of saw that with my mom. Growing up, we were

00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.539
deeply impacted by the partition. I'm from Punjab.

00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:03.760
So during the partition, our land fell on the

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.019
Pakistan side. And Muslims were basically persecuting

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:09.179
Sikhs. And so we had to flee. And that's why

00:52:09.179 --> 00:52:11.420
I'm in Thailand also. So I wanted to go back

00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:14.000
to my ancestral land. It's in Pakistan. So growing

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.199
up, I'd hear so many stories from my grandfather.

00:52:17.109 --> 00:52:19.050
grandparents because they actively ran right

00:52:19.050 --> 00:52:22.050
where like they were so anti -pakistani so anti

00:52:22.050 --> 00:52:24.449
-muslims harbor a lot of sentiments that kind

00:52:24.449 --> 00:52:27.389
of what we saw in the movie from the uncle and

00:52:27.389 --> 00:52:29.510
so of course that passed down to my mom as well

00:52:29.510 --> 00:52:32.130
and she gave me like a few rules to dating and

00:52:32.130 --> 00:52:34.409
one of them was no muslims before i went to the

00:52:34.409 --> 00:52:36.250
states like she would used to be very serious

00:52:36.250 --> 00:52:37.889
about that and if anyone's pakistani she'd just

00:52:37.889 --> 00:52:41.150
be like and when you watch this movie like you

00:52:41.150 --> 00:52:44.269
know i kind of like she did tear up and This

00:52:44.269 --> 00:52:45.829
was 10 years ago, so I don't remember if we talked

00:52:45.829 --> 00:52:50.130
about it, but she kind of warmed up. I have Pakistani

00:52:50.130 --> 00:52:52.429
friends now that I've introduced her to, and

00:52:52.429 --> 00:52:54.710
she's very open and loving to them. She doesn't

00:52:54.710 --> 00:52:56.829
really... It's probably not because of only this

00:52:56.829 --> 00:52:59.230
movie, but I kind of saw that that moved her.

00:52:59.269 --> 00:53:01.230
And I brought it up recently when I told her

00:53:01.230 --> 00:53:02.590
we were going to record about this movie, and

00:53:02.590 --> 00:53:03.909
she was really fond. She was like, yeah, that

00:53:03.909 --> 00:53:06.989
was a great movie. I loved it. So I think this

00:53:06.989 --> 00:53:08.909
kind of movie coming out from Bollywood is such

00:53:08.909 --> 00:53:12.460
a positive sign. It leaves... you know it doesn't

00:53:12.460 --> 00:53:14.960
create more hate which is already too much in

00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.820
this world i think it was the one of the i think

00:53:17.820 --> 00:53:22.699
it is the last film that came out like which

00:53:22.699 --> 00:53:26.059
is like preaching friendship between india and

00:53:26.059 --> 00:53:29.159
pakistan to be honest like in such a like a strong

00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:35.130
way yeah so Those kind of films have always been

00:53:35.130 --> 00:53:38.369
there, but they have stopped coming from Bollywood,

00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:40.530
sadly. And then you have things like Laos and

00:53:40.530 --> 00:53:44.210
Chadha. And now you have the most recent conflict

00:53:44.210 --> 00:53:46.909
between India and Pakistan and Kashmir also that

00:53:46.909 --> 00:53:50.409
has led to even more animosity, tighter border

00:53:50.409 --> 00:53:58.510
controls, suspension of treaties. I gotta go

00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:02.849
join a meeting. So it's okay. But I think that

00:54:02.849 --> 00:54:05.510
summed it up really well. You guys can do the

00:54:05.510 --> 00:54:06.889
fair shares rating without me, but I got to go.

00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:08.409
You don't need it. It's fine. That was a good

00:54:08.409 --> 00:54:12.800
wrap up. Okay. Is it a little too? Is there anything

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.000
more we want to discuss? I don't know. You can't.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.840
I have to go though. I'm so sorry. I just feel

00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.760
like we were just rushing it. So I'm just like...

00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.360
No, you did fine. But continue without me actually.

00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:23.000
It's fine. I don't give a shit. Just hit stop.

00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:26.320
Is the volume okay? Yeah, yeah. Everything's

00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.699
fine. Just carry on. Carry on. Fear of stairs.

00:54:28.780 --> 00:54:32.519
Okay. Fear of stairs. Rejecting. Yeah. So...

00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.519
It's like... Dad! Where's dad? You'll be putting

00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:43.940
on Adam's pants. I don't remember all the...

00:54:43.940 --> 00:54:45.820
Do you remember any of them? I don't remember

00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:50.539
all the pointers, though. Regional heat setting,

00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.940
dance numbers, we're upstairs moment. And the

00:54:54.940 --> 00:54:59.059
first dance floor. Alright, bye. I give it a

00:54:59.059 --> 00:55:05.989
5 out of 5. Okay. Staircase moment. staircase

00:55:05.989 --> 00:55:08.170
moment i guess when she's pakistani for them

00:55:08.170 --> 00:55:12.469
not for us as the audience but for them yeah

00:55:12.469 --> 00:55:15.289
i think for me when like but i also was seeing

00:55:15.289 --> 00:55:18.809
it like when she was sold to the brothel we all

00:55:18.809 --> 00:55:21.449
kind of saw some shady shit coming yeah i was

00:55:21.449 --> 00:55:24.389
i was guessing it but yeah i yeah it was extreme

00:55:24.389 --> 00:55:29.929
i think yeah it's okay so staircase moment out

00:55:29.929 --> 00:55:32.780
of five i don't think so I didn't think there

00:55:32.780 --> 00:55:35.360
was a staircase moment. Yeah. I didn't feel like

00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.900
there was any moment where it took a left turn

00:55:37.900 --> 00:55:41.199
at any point. So for me, I don't know. I'd give

00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.820
it like a... This is the edge of the hill moment,

00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:47.280
though. Sorry. Edge of the hill moment? Yeah,

00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:49.199
maybe that would be the... Yeah, maybe that would

00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:50.679
be the staircase moment. What do you mean edge

00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.219
of the hill moment? Like she fell down the hill?

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:57.699
Oh, that was so early. Dance floor claws. Oh,

00:55:57.739 --> 00:56:02.039
there was quite a lot. The one that... The one

00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.679
that stick out to me was the the dance I was

00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:08.179
gonna say that's what the one that stuck out

00:56:08.179 --> 00:56:11.280
to me was the one that establishes Pawan and

00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.119
Rasika's relationship it they wrapped it up so

00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.639
Quickly that I I just thought that was kind of

00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.539
impressive That wasn't the dance floor number

00:56:20.539 --> 00:56:22.760
though. But yeah, there was a very intimate nice

00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.400
song, but I would say I would say like it's almost

00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.949
five because like There were so many songs that

00:56:28.949 --> 00:56:31.969
I like the chicken song. Yeah, I forwarded through.

00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:33.469
But if you say there's a chicken song, I give

00:56:33.469 --> 00:56:35.429
it a five out of five. Yeah. It's very creative.

00:56:35.909 --> 00:56:39.389
And yeah, the dance numbers were pretty good.

00:56:39.429 --> 00:56:42.949
And I remember the songs were pretty much big

00:56:42.949 --> 00:56:47.530
hit as well. Okay. Yeah. Family Feud Factor.

00:56:47.909 --> 00:56:51.690
Oh, that's a good one. This is a, I mean, like

00:56:51.690 --> 00:56:56.170
the whole. uncle being having some animosity

00:56:56.170 --> 00:56:59.289
towards pakistanis yeah yeah i'd say a five out

00:56:59.289 --> 00:57:01.050
of five the whole the whole thing is about navigating

00:57:01.050 --> 00:57:03.989
family dynamics getting them to accept them being

00:57:03.989 --> 00:57:06.769
more conservative than he is to accept this pakistani

00:57:06.769 --> 00:57:09.849
muslim girl and him doing everything he can to

00:57:09.849 --> 00:57:15.130
marry the daughter spice level regional heat

00:57:15.130 --> 00:57:17.889
shake i think it's a good one five out of five

00:57:17.889 --> 00:57:24.789
maybe oh ten out of five okay yeah moral of the

00:57:24.789 --> 00:57:27.889
melodrama no that that's pretty strong one yeah

00:57:27.889 --> 00:57:30.090
it's a very moralistic film like you know love

00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:33.929
everyone uh to see indians and pakistani that's

00:57:33.929 --> 00:57:37.409
uh i think just similar people sharing same culture

00:57:37.409 --> 00:57:40.510
and identity and it's just divided by border

00:57:40.510 --> 00:57:43.409
i mean it's a very close one to my heart honestly

00:57:43.409 --> 00:57:45.769
adam what do you think oh he's nodding in agreement

00:57:45.769 --> 00:57:49.860
with keely i'm just gonna listen to this while

00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:53.039
editing he's nodding in agreement i don't know

00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.579
what's up yeah yeah no i think that sums it up

00:57:55.579 --> 00:57:59.019
very well philly that was very nicely put so

00:57:59.019 --> 00:58:01.280
yeah that's very good five out of five five out

00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.820
of five yeah i highly recommend it's a great

00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:07.179
movie i i really enjoyed it uh for me it kind

00:58:07.179 --> 00:58:10.539
of like just shed light on this whole aspect

00:58:10.539 --> 00:58:14.380
you know between uh pakistanis and indians and

00:58:14.380 --> 00:58:17.219
i see parallels too with what i'm going through

00:58:17.219 --> 00:58:21.719
i suppose yeah yeah i think that if i ever want

00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.460
to like let people see understand the conflict

00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:29.579
i would show this movie yeah that makes sense

00:58:29.579 --> 00:58:31.780
i think this movie is so relevant especially

00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:34.039
today especially with the political climate that

00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.710
we're in the rise of nationalism i think movies

00:58:36.710 --> 00:58:39.530
like this should be advertised more made more

00:58:39.530 --> 00:58:41.630
i think in like at this setting i don't think

00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:43.510
a movie would would be released like this in

00:58:43.510 --> 00:58:45.590
bollywood like there's a reason these kind of

00:58:45.590 --> 00:58:48.429
movies are not being made anymore okay so you

00:58:48.429 --> 00:58:50.769
know we do need it more than ever as a little

00:58:50.769 --> 00:58:54.889
reminder that we are just one yeah i mean salman

00:58:54.889 --> 00:58:58.210
khan was making like all these like very meathead

00:58:58.210 --> 00:59:02.630
action films all the time so i didn't like those

00:59:02.630 --> 00:59:05.699
films much like i watched one or two of them

00:59:05.699 --> 00:59:08.059
and i was like okay fine i've watched enough

00:59:08.059 --> 00:59:11.059
so i kind of missed this film as well thinking

00:59:11.059 --> 00:59:14.579
this was the similar film uh i remember people

00:59:14.579 --> 00:59:17.519
are saying me it's not but Somehow I missed this

00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.280
film, but this is the first time I watched it

00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.320
and it's a really good film. Was there a film

00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.539
named Tiger 3 or something? Tiger 3 means there

00:59:26.539 --> 00:59:29.719
was Tiger 1 and 2 as well. I think Tiger... He

00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.360
was in it, right? Yeah, Ekta Tiger. Yeah, there

00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:37.039
was a tiger. So I think that film is also by

00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.099
the same director. And I think there also he

00:59:40.099 --> 00:59:44.119
plays a certain twist on ISI agent. Like ISI

00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.750
is like the Pakistani... uh secure security secret

00:59:47.750 --> 00:59:53.090
service so the heroine hearing is from uh like

00:59:53.090 --> 00:59:57.849
the lead act lead hero the hearing is from pakistani

00:59:57.849 --> 01:00:01.110
secret service and the hero is from indian intelligence

01:00:01.110 --> 01:00:04.690
service raw so they fall in love so i think there

01:00:04.690 --> 01:00:07.969
was also a twist of like you know pakistan is

01:00:07.969 --> 01:00:11.070
not being inherently bad people in ekta tiger

01:00:11.070 --> 01:00:13.489
as well even though it was like a spy action

01:00:13.489 --> 01:00:17.539
film uh so yeah so this director has been putting

01:00:17.539 --> 01:00:20.260
out had been putting out film like that before

01:00:20.260 --> 01:00:23.199
i don't know what's happening now but yeah that's

01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:26.059
really cool so they're actually producing a sequel

01:00:26.059 --> 01:00:29.760
to this movie as well as of 2021 salman confirmed

01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.679
salman khan confirmed that they were making a

01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.119
sequel but then four years later we have not

01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.059
heard any updates so unclear what's in the making

01:00:37.059 --> 01:00:39.340
i also wanted to point out that this movie was

01:00:39.340 --> 01:00:43.099
a big hit in china okay like A massive hit. It

01:00:43.099 --> 01:00:46.079
released in the cinema in 2018. So it had already

01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.699
gained a cult following in China when it was

01:00:48.699 --> 01:00:51.579
released in 2015. And then after Amerikan's Dango

01:00:51.579 --> 01:00:53.960
became such a big hit in China, they thought,

01:00:54.019 --> 01:00:56.059
okay, let's release it in the theater three years

01:00:56.059 --> 01:00:59.420
later after the original release. And it did

01:00:59.420 --> 01:01:01.300
really, really well. But they shortened the film

01:01:01.300 --> 01:01:04.179
to like two hours or something. So I think they

01:01:04.179 --> 01:01:06.260
cut out some scenes. And I just want to mention

01:01:06.260 --> 01:01:10.119
how the title was translated in Chinese. It was

01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.440
basically Little Lolita Monkey Got Uncle. That

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.980
was the name of the movie in Chinese. I thought

01:01:15.980 --> 01:01:19.519
it would be quirky and appeal to audiences. Bajrangi

01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:23.659
is Hanuman. Bajrangbali is Hanuman. It's another

01:01:23.659 --> 01:01:26.500
name. Bajrangi means Hanuman. They're making

01:01:26.500 --> 01:01:28.699
a sequel, so what happens? She gets lost again.

01:01:29.260 --> 01:01:33.619
Given her character, she's bound to get lost

01:01:33.619 --> 01:01:39.000
again. Somewhere. She's always on her own journey.

01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:44.099
and yeah kids these days okay we're done all

01:01:44.099 --> 01:01:49.340
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