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I saw a movie in the movie theater recently and

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I had a phone experience. Uh, it was just like

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the theater was pretty empty, but it was me and,

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uh, my girlfriend and we were sitting watching

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the movie, but there's these guys like in the

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front row and they were, I don't know where they

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were from, but they were talking the whole time

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and they were both on their phones and like their

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phones are like brightly lit and like, I could

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see them like on Tinder and stuff. And they were

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just on their like dating apps and chatting with

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each other the whole time. And they were like

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trying to be quiet, but it was super loud still.

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And like the screen is so bright, you know, like

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you could see it. You could see it from anywhere.

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So I did. It was the first time I've ever done

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this, but like halfway through, I did like on

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my way to the bathroom, I walked up to them and

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was like, guys, we can see everything and hear

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everything. Can you not? And yeah, they they

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looked at me and turned it down. And that was

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nice. That was the first time I've ever done

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that, though. I bring this up because we talked

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about it last time, the movie theater. Oh yeah,

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I've done it in the very first 10 minutes. Oh,

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because Killy does that. No, because Killy was

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on his phone and talking when I was watching

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the last movie with him. Because so Killy likes

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to read the Wikipedia of the movie that we're

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watching. Oh, I know. So he does that in the

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movie theater, I guess. I would watch a shitty

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movie like Final Destination for sure, yeah,

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but not for the good ones. But are you saying

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you would have gone up and told them to? Yeah.

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but you're the guy that does mine was not that

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bright no but my no it is very bright the dark

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theater like i could see everything what movie

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were you watching uh 28 years later all right

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that's a serious film man it's not a uh funny

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film like so killy was doing that for final destination

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apparently that's a funny movie but don't worry

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killy would be the first one to tell someone

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to stop doing that if it wasn't him yeah of course

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be the change you want to see in the world Welcome

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to Fear of Stairs, Desi Films decoded. The podcast

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where four friends from different backgrounds

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unlock the world of Desi cinema. I'm Winnie,

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the Desi who's never been to India. Hi, I'm Killy.

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I'm from India. I love films. My name is Nicky

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and I'm okay. Okay. All right. I'll stop without

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the racism. My name is Nicky. I'm from Thailand

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and I think a Thai version of Forrest Gump is

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a bad idea. Yeah, I think a Thai version of Forrest

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Gump would suck. I'm Adam. I'm the American movie

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buff. And yeah, welcome to Fear of Stairs. What

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movie did we watch? Well, there's, I mean, my

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introduction gave it away. We're doing the Indian

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adaptation of Forrest Gump, Lal Singh Chadha.

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And from my quick research, it was actually a

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flop, a box office flop. Yeah, big bomb. I was

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kind of surprised to learn that too. So One thing,

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you know, there's often like a lot of like Indian

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spinoffs, right? Or like remakes or something.

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But this one was officially licensed. So like

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the studio Paramount that made the original Forrest

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Gump like produce this. It has the original screenwriter

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on board as well. So like this is like an official.

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This is a big deal. And I think it's kind of

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where that this movie bombed as well, because

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Forrest Gump was Paramount's highest grossing

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film until Transformers. Like it was their biggest

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blockbuster ever. It made like 400 million dollars

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just domestically Tom Hanks got an Oscar It was

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a huge huge Hit, you know, they did a whole bunch

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of restaurants the bubblegum shrimp Restaurants

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came from that movie, right? So it makes sense

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to like redo it and You know with Paramount's

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blessing and stuff. It's a big deal and you have

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a big star Mr. Zameer Khan and stuff, but it

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was a bomb so I, well, after we watched this,

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I watched the original Forrest Gump to try to

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figure out like why. And I have two theories

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and then we can go into the plot. So the first

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one is the original Forrest Gump is very like

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reprehensible in terms of like its plot. Like

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it is a very, uh, conservative movie. And the

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basic lessons, if you guys remember the plot

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is like, if you care about anything, Like Lieutenant

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Dan does, he's very patriotic, and he's trying

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to fight for something above himself. If you

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care about anything like that, or if you have

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a dream and try to achieve it, like Jenny does,

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she wants to be a musician and really fights

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for her dream, if you do anything like that,

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you will be punished. Your life is cursed, you

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will die miserable. like like life will just

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like rain down terror on you if you try anything

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like this. However, if you're someone like Forrest

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Gump, who just kind of nods his head and doesn't

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really question anything, there's a lot of absurd

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things that happen because of the timeline of

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that film. It's like, you know, it goes through

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the 60s and ends. The movie was released in 1994.

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You know, they go through all these different

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presidential assassinations and stuff, and it's

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just always in the background like he doesn't

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really question anything. When they he's on the

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steps of the Washington Monument and he's asked

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to give his thoughts on the Vietnam War that

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he was in he he doesn't say anything the audience

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can't hear it like they do a thing in the movie

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were like These guys like remove his microphone.

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So no one hears what he says So you never hear

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his stance on anything, but basically if you

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just nod along really good things will happen

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for you You'll get really rich. So just shut

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the fuck up and just you know, don't question

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stuff and you'll be fine Okay, so the message

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is not great The other problem with the movie

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is that the main character is like slow You know

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and to quote Tropic Thunder like you never go

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full retard, right? And then and but he mentions

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Forrest Gump like Forrest Gump never went full

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retard He was slow, but he's not like stupid

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and and and Forrest Gump is just a slow guy if

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I realized after watching this new movie that

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I have immense respect for Tom Hanks as an actor

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now like I do not think this role is possible.

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Yeah, unless you're Tom Hanks. It wouldn't fly

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right today. It wouldn't fly at any time. But

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the movie still holds up in terms of that character,

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the original one, because Tom Hanks is an incredible

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actor. He can he's just can convey so much through

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his eyes, through his emotions. He knows exactly

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like how to handle a character. And I really

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think that like. I don't think any other actor

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could possibly touch this type of role. We see

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what happens when someone else does. So I think

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the one reason why this movie didn't do well

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is just straight up it's not Tom Hanks. I showed

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you guys those two clips. I think the thing that

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defines the acting gap here is so this movie

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which we'll get to is the same exact plot as

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Forrest Gump. So if you've seen Forrest Gump,

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we'll go through it. But he meets his son and

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when Tom Hanks Is meeting the sun like I do tear

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up at that scene. Like he sees his son. He says

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very few words and you can just see like his

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inner monologue the whole time and he pulls it

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off and the line he says when he first sees his

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son is is he smart or and then he gets choked

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up and can't finish the sentence, right? But

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in the new one you see it and. I mean, a mere

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conscious isn't Tom Hanks and that scene does

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not. he doesn't pull off that scene it's not

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the same and I think the big giveaway too is

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when he says um is he smart or is he like me

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like he keeps having to add words because he

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can't act act it you know and whenever you can't

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act something you have to just keep adding words

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and so that I that's like I noticed that so hard

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was like he has to explain it so that we get

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it Tom Hanks doesn't need to do that and he just

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can't pull off that type of scene and I literally

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don't think many people can Now the bigger I

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think flop issue because Amir Khan still a big

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star he sells out movies so that shouldn't be

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the bigger issue but Forrest Gump again was released

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in 1994 and The Cold War just kind of ended and

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it was a big boomer victory lap President Clinton

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was in office since 92 everyone in that boomer

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generation was getting into positions of power,

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you know Tom Hanks and the director Robert Zemeckis

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for boomers as well like and the whole movie

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is about the boomers experience in America leading

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up to the point where the whole world is presented

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to them on a platter. It's America's for the

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taking and the boomers are the ones in those

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positions of power to take advantage of it. I

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think it was a huge hit because it's a big galvanizing

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movie about a very important time period that

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a very influential generational experience at

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the same time. you know, tumultuous. Like there

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were tons of assassinations and you did have

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the Vietnam War. You had a lot of change and

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a lot of technological upheaval and it culminates

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with the boomers winning out. And the boomers

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are inherently pretty conservative, right? And

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that message I think does resonate with them

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a bit. And so that movie was just a big victory

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lap for them. Like we did it, we own the world.

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This movie So not just you don't have Tom Hanks

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as an actor, but this movie coming out in 2002

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is sorry. Thank you. 2022 number one. No one

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has that type of galvanizing generational thing

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that the boomers experienced in the 60s. And

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India is not in a place in 2022 where like they

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own the world now and they're doing a big victory

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lap. And it's not due to a bunch of series of

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events that led them to there either. So I don't

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think they have the same like uniform, hegemonic,

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like view of history that the boomers did at

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that time. And the other very important part

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is that, like I said, like Forrest Gump has no

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political opinions. He doesn't say anything about

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the Vietnam War in the movie presence. He meets

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multiple presidents from different parties. They

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mean nothing to him. It's a very apolitical movie

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for a very political time. Besides, like, it's

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very conservative message. But this. new one,

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Lost in Chata is very explicitly political. So

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there's no way it can be galvanizing because

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people are going to take issue with it no matter

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what, no matter what side you're on. And so now

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we can like kind of get into it. But those are

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the two things that I think like, why would this

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kind of exact same movie be the biggest hit in

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the world? You know, then and now it's just a

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huge bomb and no one really connects with it.

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And so anyways, those are my two thoughts going

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into this. Yeah, so I would think that if they

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did the huge political upheaval that they were

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showing was around when the BJP came to power,

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like before that Anna Hazare movement and stuff

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like that, we'll go get into it. uh so if the

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film would have come out around that point of

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time it might have had that impact but by the

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time 2022 people are already forgotten about

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it and realize that how what what a crappy movement

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that was so that even doesn't ring any you know

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bell to Indian subconscious and so I think I

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think I think that's that's a big point that

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and I heard somewhere that this film was being

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about to be released like long back and then

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they keep on pushing the release date I mean

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they it was supposed to be released before COVID

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for sure and then the COVID happened and I think

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it was released in like during Covid time, so

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the theatre options were less and then it was

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mostly released on OTT and then of course OTT

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doesn't make much money. So I think that those

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things were also played a huge role in this film

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becoming not a very successful one. And then

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also I feel that people know about Forrest Gump

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a lot and it's a very substantially different

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level of filmmaking and then uh forrest gump

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already had a huge fan base so it's always up

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for comparison it's like a taste that it cannot

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pass kind of thing but anyway yeah yeah let's

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wait before that um no i think adam has a point

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about the acting because it was a box office

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flop But like critical reception wise, it received

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mixed reviews. It was not completely panned by

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critics. But one point that critics did point

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out was Amir Khan's acting and they found it

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over exaggerated or repetitive. So I think that

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is an important point. And this is the first

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time where I'll kind of tend to agree with it.

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I love Amir Khan, but this is probably the third

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movie we've watched now where he's acting kind

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of like in a bit of a retarded manner. There

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was PK and then there's this and you kind of

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see the repetition going in. It starts kind of

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losing that raw emotion. that we got out of Tom

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Hanks. And another interesting point was that

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they took like 10 years to write the script,

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which was really mind -blowing for me, because

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it's so similar to Forrest, right? There's like

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almost no creativity. I mean, it's nice that

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it sticks to the source material, but you still

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expect a bit of creative expression. And I think

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this movie kind of lacks that in a way. Yeah,

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the acting, just to harp on that too, like rewatching

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the original, Yeah, like, Forrest Gump is slow,

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but through Tom Hanks' acting, like, he always

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has, like, a reason for doing something. Like,

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and you can always see his reason for doing something.

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Again, he's such a good actor that he doesn't

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need a lot of words, but he has motivation and,

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like, an interiority, so he's not retarded. He's

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not. And, like, he has desires and, like, he

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has opinions and stuff. But in this one, he...

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Amir Khan plays like a dummy that just does whatever

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he's told at all times and never really like

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has his own character, you know, grappling with

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things. And so he did go full retard on the one.

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You know in the one movie that really pulled

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it off the last time I think it failed because

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of box of golgappas No one no one in india carries

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golgappa in a box Which is weird because in america

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everyone carries a box of chocolate so that would

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like really hit home. No, nobody cares I mean

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no box of chocolate is a reality. It is a real

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thing Yeah, but box of golgappa is not a real

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thing. It's like life is like a box of chocolates

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You won't know what you're gonna get the one

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that golgappa one is like you said you don't

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carry Gokkapa in a box. And this whole thing

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about how even if your belly is full, sometimes

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your heart is not full. Like, I did not understand

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that at all. That makes no sense. That's nothing

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to do with that dish. The food plot as well.

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Yeah. And can you explain what that dish is,

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by the way, for listeners? Gokkapa or Pani Puri,

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I think. I noticed Pani Puri. I didn't notice

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the other one. I mean, it's a little ball, cracker

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thing. You make a hole, you put some potato in,

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you put some... Like green spicy chutney and

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a bit of tamarind sauce and it's kind of like

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it explodes in your mouth a bunch of flavors

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It's really tasty. It's one of my favorite foods

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It's a very common street food in india But also

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notorious for causing food poisoning if your

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stomach is not used to the food in india I think

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that's why they took 10 years. They're trying

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to figure out what can we do? Well, that's the

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other that's the other problem is like you you

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know when if you're doing it 10 years ago or

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or more recent you have to map out the timeline

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of events and like And the original Forrest Gump,

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like there was a very easy timeline to follow,

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right? Cause it, you know, it's up until like

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the nineties and you know, there's these set

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of historical events that led to this moment.

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That all is all very clear. But if you're doing

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it in India in random times, then you have to

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like find a war. So like we see the movie struggle

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with that. Like you have to find a war that maps

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onto the Vietnam war and you have to like find

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a company like Bubba gum shrimp that like maps

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onto this time period too. It just doesn't Translate

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also a timeline was like the war happened so

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long back and then like in 1996 or seven and

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then the last part of the films happening in

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2012 13 like after all these years Yeah, and

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yeah, anyway, I think we should get in this Let's

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get into we can get into the specific plot Well,

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the thing is I'm just gonna add in a little bit

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just like I was thinking that you know coming

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from Thailand it's like We learn a lot about

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Western history, right? So when we watch Forrest

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Gump, we tend to recognize the events that Forrest

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encounters, basically. But with this movie, it's

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like I was so lost, man. Like I had no idea with

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Indian history. I guess, you know, it's just,

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you know, it can't be helped. Like we don't learn

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that sort of thing. So I actually had to have

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Keely guide me through the entire movie where

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he does like long explanations. You know, I'm

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going to try my best covering the points in the

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story. And if I fumble somewhere along the way,

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you guys can help me out. Yeah, Kelly, we're

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going to lean on Kelly a lot for this one. Before

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we break in, I just want to ask to Kelly, did

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you see this movie or was it a thing like the

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people talk about this at all? I mean, people

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know like who watch Hollywood films and people

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who watch Hollywood classics. Uh, they everyone

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knows forest gump. Yeah, actually that's right

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The reason that we even got to this movie was

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because my friend my high school friend irman.

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He's he recommended me this movie He said there

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is an indian version of forest gump, but then

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I asked him is it good? He's like, I don't like

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it He does not like it and he seek as well. So

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I don't know Shout out to Nerman. I owe you my

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life forever. I'll never forget you, Nerman.

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I love you. Number one fan. And it was so funny.

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Months later, I told him, so if I finally watched

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it and he was like, oh, why did you watch it

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for the podcast? And he was like, you're doing

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a podcast. Are you serious? So you're just watching

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it for fun. We were watching Indian movies for

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fun. I would never watch Indian movies for fun.

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Oh, my God. Never in a million years. He's joking.

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He loves Indian movies. So yeah, it follows the

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same plot as Forrest Gump. You have this... Amir

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Khan plays this guy named Lal. I mean, his name,

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Lal Chadha, right? And it plays out scene for

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scene. But instead of a park, he's in a train

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with some people, and that's where he narrates

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his story of events. Which I want to say is the

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one big improvement. I think being on the train

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just visually, it's way cooler when people are

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chatting on the plane or on a train and also

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people are stuck with him. So they have to listen.

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It's just like a better setting for someone to

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tell your whole life story. The train is better.

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And then like his mom, you know, he starts the

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story, you know, he's a kid who's had like leg

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problems. He wears like braces. He's like grand,

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great grandfathers and fathers are all soldiers.

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And this is where Adam mentioned that actually

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that did not happen in the original because that

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kind of that story actually goes to Lieutenant

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Dan. So they take the story of Lieutenant Dan

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where all of his family members like died in

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previous wars and they have a whole montage of

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all the uh actors like dying in different wars

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in the past and in this one they take that backstory

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for lieutenant dan which we will get to he's

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a very problematic character in this movie and

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they give it to forest or they give it to lal

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singchata um and yeah so that was a weird edit

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but it's the only way to explain why a rich guy

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would not go to would go to the army it's a really

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when we get to the word we'll talk about it's

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a very hard it's very hard to give an explanation

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for that if you're not drafted in the vietnam

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war and stuff Yeah, let's she you know, they

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go to this priest right and then she offers cleaning

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services in the most PG way possible That was

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like the big that's that's another like big change,

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right? I wouldn't say like big but you remember

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winning what happens in the first one what the

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mom has to sleep she has sex with the like the

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school administrator. Oh really? To get her son

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in. Whoa, well that definitely wouldn't fly in

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Bollywood. I see why they changed it to cleaning.

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No, so she fucks like the school administrator

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and Forrest hears it upstairs and stuff and then

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the school administrator's like leaving like

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like um Zipping up his pants and forces like

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mimicking the sex sounds they're making and stuff

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Yeah, some of that the original movie is it's

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very like adult in some areas These these are

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the things that makes you laugh and like, you

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know, like oh, I mean the mother I think these

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are the angles that's like taking the shine out

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of the film like these small small things these

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quirks that sparse like you know encouragement

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like kind of fun in the audience these are like

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being when they're being dull making being made

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dull Oh yeah, she's cleaning house for the school

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father. Yeah, he whips out like an IQ map and

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he's like, your son is below this IQ line, which

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is a very, I think, Indian way to approach that.

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Like, no, he's objectively stupid. And she's

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like, we can't join the school. She's like, I'll

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clean your house every day that he's here. And

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he's like, okay, fine. Well, it paints in a very

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dignified light. Like I think the mom steals

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the show here. She is a great mother, hands down.

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I think you're a better mother if you blow. the

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administrator for your son i think that shows

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that you love your kid more maybe in america

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yeah they cannot like it would be uh i mean sancti

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sanctify the mother character of uh indian heroes

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you know the mother is like a very sanctimonious

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image and then like yeah so even if she's widow

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like here like she's not doesn't have a husband

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or anything. I mean, even the widow cannot have

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sex. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And basically, like,

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you know, Forrest Gump, he goes through, as I've

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said, like he goes through historical events,

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meets famous celebrities. And in this one, you

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know, because it's all adapted for an Indian

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audience, like he goes through several tragedies,

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like the like the assassination of Indira Gandhi.

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Well, there's a scene where they're in front

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of Indira Gandhi's house and they say this is

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where she lives and then they hear the bullets

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and then the photo clicks them like all turning

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around and then later on that day they find out

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that the bullets they heard while taking that

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photo was the assassination that killed Indira

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Gandhi who and it was by two of her Sikh bodyguards.

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Yeah And that's when the mom brings in the malaria

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thing. But yeah, I think what Nikki was getting

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at was how his mom used to frame all of this

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political unrest that was going on this time,

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telling him that it's malaria and he needs to

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stay inside. So I have a question for you, Adam,

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with all these events being told, how was it?

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How does it compare to the original? Yeah, the

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malaria thing is an introduced in the Indian

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one. Like the mom isn't. Protective of forest

00:23:06.289 --> 00:23:08.630
in the original she's like go out there. You

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know, you're just as normal as the rest of them

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this one again really Puts forward the fact that

00:23:14.730 --> 00:23:17.970
he's super stupid and like the mom just gives

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him direct orders all the time like stay inside

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It's malaria and he's like, okay, I'll be here

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for three weeks boom. And so he has no Personal

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drive all he's doing. He's just listening to

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his mom, which I guess makes him a great son

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But not an interesting character to watch in

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a movie the other Thing is the celebrity he meets

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.380
in the original is Elvis, but who is the celebrity

00:23:38.380 --> 00:23:42.779
he meets in this show? What does he do? It doesn't

00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:46.759
like the the the the hands out dance moves I'm

00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.759
gesturing but like the our listeners won't see

00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.299
but like he he like sticks out his arms like

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this I guess he's in like the leg braces so he

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can only move his arms On a roof top and then

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charu khan like turns his head and it's like

00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:01.890
deep fake Shah Rukh Khan's face, right? So was

00:24:01.890 --> 00:24:03.650
it real Shah Rukh Khan? I still don't know. I

00:24:03.650 --> 00:24:05.069
looked into it. I was like, how did they find

00:24:05.069 --> 00:24:07.609
a kid who has such similar features to Shah Rukh

00:24:07.609 --> 00:24:09.650
Khan? But then Shah Rukh Khan did have a guest

00:24:09.650 --> 00:24:12.269
starring role in this. So it is him. Somehow.

00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:16.250
They just DH him. Yeah. Yeah. But man, I was

00:24:16.250 --> 00:24:18.950
watching clips of like Indian audiences in cinema

00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:20.849
watching that. And even just that, they're like

00:24:20.849 --> 00:24:23.049
standing up cheering like, oh my God, it's Shah

00:24:23.049 --> 00:24:25.529
Rukh Khan. I think this is one spot like where

00:24:25.529 --> 00:24:28.309
I really like the film that, OK, this is the

00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:30.789
whole one of the spotter like oh yeah like that

00:24:30.789 --> 00:24:33.710
that's so funny like it's so funny because uh

00:24:33.710 --> 00:24:36.589
yeah Shah Rukh Khan like he taught Shah Rukh

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Khan that move like that was that was actually

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so this is the one spot like it really takes

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it home right it should have gone further with

00:24:43.690 --> 00:24:46.490
that stuff yeah just be like weird and and all

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the like weird indian like you know media fun

00:24:49.509 --> 00:24:52.210
stuff just yes like i think that would have like

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yeah i think it's one of the few scenes where

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he kind of has like a entertainment footprint

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the rest of it is all political yeah with with

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an objective political view again in the original

00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.599
movie he just experiences these events but has

00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.500
no uh interpretation of it himself really but

00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:09.440
in this one like the movie has a very explicit

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.539
interpretation every time which makes it which

00:25:12.539 --> 00:25:14.680
makes the character himself political and that's

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.980
a little hard to swallow. Since the Shah Rukh

00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:21.440
Khan scene is a hit for all of us, I think they

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.319
actually thought of this first and then they

00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.900
took another 10 years to think of the political

00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:30.960
side. For sure. We got the Shah Rukh Khan, this

00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.819
is golden. If Shah Rukh Khan's in the film, by

00:25:33.819 --> 00:25:35.799
the way, yeah, it's golden. That was the first

00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.319
and last good idea they had. I do got to say

00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.200
it's kind of brave of Amir Khan. I was watching

00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.829
interviews with Amir Khan and he said, him and

00:25:42.829 --> 00:25:45.269
Shahrukh Khan have had you know kind of a shaky

00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:46.849
history in the past like they haven't always

00:25:46.849 --> 00:25:49.630
gone along and you know when this is his this

00:25:49.630 --> 00:25:51.730
is Amir Khan's big big passion project like he

00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:53.390
was working on this forever like he was really

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:55.170
involved the whole time and it's his production

00:25:55.170 --> 00:25:57.930
company so for him to like reach out to Shahrukh

00:25:57.930 --> 00:25:59.809
Khan and bring him on like that's actually pretty

00:25:59.809 --> 00:26:01.930
cool and it makes for the best moment the closest

00:26:01.930 --> 00:26:04.670
thing you can find to Elvis in India yeah it

00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:08.579
works it just works But Elvis is like dead by

00:26:08.579 --> 00:26:10.319
the time we're watching the original this one

00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.079
like Shah Rukh Khan is alive and well and in

00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:13.799
the movie That's the other like that's pretty

00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.000
cool. I don't think you'd find a dead legend

00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.799
in Bollywood That's bigger than Shah Rukh Khan

00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.079
that are alive. Like he is the biggest legend

00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.019
still So with all the these historical events

00:26:23.019 --> 00:26:25.440
happen happening, uh, you know lao meets this

00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.940
girl named rupa Uh, that's a little of interest.

00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:32.180
That's the jenny of the movie And you know if

00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:34.940
he they you know, I think throughout the film

00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:37.940
to to so that we can so the audience can know

00:26:37.940 --> 00:26:40.380
how what lao's feeling there's a lot of songs

00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:44.160
based around their romance no dancing no dancing

00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.740
and the characters don't sing they're just narrators

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:49.519
singing the emotions for you big big bummer for

00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.319
me for real like it was too much of a serious

00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.920
hollywood film and and and and and they had songs

00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.460
because it's indian but not a dance number and

00:26:59.460 --> 00:27:04.039
that's bullshit yeah and rupa rupa is like you

00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.240
know Think if our you know, anyone who knows

00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.339
that name will soon figure out that there's significance

00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:13.200
to this name But basically, you know, it plays

00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.339
out the same like there's that you have you have

00:27:15.339 --> 00:27:18.319
that scene where the bullies were like Picking

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.609
on lot lol and then you know, he tries to run

00:27:21.609 --> 00:27:24.109
with his leg braces and then they break off while

00:27:24.109 --> 00:27:29.630
uh rupa yells run lol run you know it doesn't

00:27:29.630 --> 00:27:32.789
sound as good but yeah it's like i you know that's

00:27:32.789 --> 00:27:35.170
one scene has made us all go like ah there's

00:27:35.170 --> 00:27:39.269
the scene and basically um because he runs fast

00:27:39.269 --> 00:27:42.609
right uh he you know the they think he catches

00:27:42.609 --> 00:27:45.289
the attention of some coaches and they made him

00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:47.650
run like track and field and they also made him

00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:51.579
like uh Do some parade with the national cadet

00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:54.099
corps. Yeah, he joins track and field, right?

00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:56.380
Yeah as like a runner. Yes. Yeah, but he never

00:27:56.380 --> 00:28:00.039
knows when to stop. Okay Yeah, and he doesn't

00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.359
even like respond to the sound of the gun to

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.339
run he has to hear Rupa yelling Rupa run. Yeah,

00:28:06.859 --> 00:28:10.319
and then like she worked and then Rupa is like

00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.779
working herself as a model. She tries to be like

00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:16.069
Miss North India Yeah, which is not a real thing,

00:28:16.269 --> 00:28:22.309
I guess. Jenny's dream in the original is to

00:28:22.309 --> 00:28:25.750
be a musician. Okay. And in this one, yeah, it's

00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:29.369
just to be a model. Yeah, which is definitely

00:28:29.369 --> 00:28:35.509
like an actual dream of some women for sure,

00:28:35.509 --> 00:28:38.150
but I don't know Miss North India is a thing

00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:40.430
or not. Why didn't they just make it Miss India?

00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:43.859
Miss me something miss Punjab or me something

00:28:43.859 --> 00:28:47.079
like me snobby girl. Yeah, like what is that?

00:28:47.819 --> 00:28:51.880
Very specific North India. Yeah, miss North India

00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.660
and then like one of many instances were like

00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:58.200
Lal is like jealous of you know men's attention

00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.160
towards Rupa like there's one guy named like

00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.579
Harry This good -looking guy where he like beat

00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.279
he went to get like go kapas I think yeah, and

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.619
then like sees like beats him up and stuff. You'll

00:29:09.619 --> 00:29:12.180
see that Think it was like that in the original.

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:14.680
Was it like for a scum defending like Jenny?

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:18.599
Yeah similar is very all similar stuff. And then

00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.980
at some point we get to see uh, I was gonna say

00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:26.740
Indian force lol lol joining the Indian army

00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:30.559
He meets like our their equivalent of Baba, which

00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:35.109
is Bala And they want to sell starting like a

00:29:35.109 --> 00:29:37.829
shrimp shrimp shrimp business a shrimp restaurant

00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:42.430
chain. They want to do undergarments because

00:29:42.430 --> 00:29:46.130
Because you'll see why Okay, so let's pause first

00:29:46.130 --> 00:29:47.950
and talk about the war the war Yeah, they're

00:29:47.950 --> 00:29:50.230
going to a war and you know, it's instead of

00:29:50.230 --> 00:29:51.950
like the Vietnam War as you see in the original

00:29:51.950 --> 00:29:55.269
It's the cargo war. Yeah. Yeah. So first of all,

00:29:55.269 --> 00:29:58.210
why are they fighting right? So in the original

00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.200
They go to the Vietnam War. There was a big draft.

00:30:01.619 --> 00:30:04.079
Forrest was not drafted actually, but he just

00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.000
didn't know what to do after he graduated. University

00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.680
and someone just handed him, you know, a flyer

00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.799
and said, you know, do you know what you want

00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.339
to do with your life? And he's like, sure. So

00:30:12.339 --> 00:30:16.380
he does it. And then like Bubba and stuff were

00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:19.619
like draftees. And that makes sense. A lot of

00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:22.680
people were put into that war. The cargo war,

00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:26.559
especially, you know, Forrest's mom's rich or

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:31.089
has money. Why would any of these people volunteer

00:30:31.089 --> 00:30:33.670
to be in this war and kill you had an issue with

00:30:33.670 --> 00:30:36.349
this too? Yeah, so what is the thing is like

00:30:36.349 --> 00:30:39.990
so they were not going to the war they just they

00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:43.670
they Joined the army. So once you join the army,

00:30:43.690 --> 00:30:45.430
you don't have a say whether to go to the war

00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:50.910
or not. So forest joins the army because forest's

00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.490
motivation i can still get behind because okay

00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:56.089
he's like okay he has this heartbroken guy he's

00:30:56.089 --> 00:30:58.089
not getting the girl and then that's where i

00:30:58.089 --> 00:31:00.930
think he's he's like okay i'll go for the army

00:31:00.930 --> 00:31:03.930
or something like that and but this guy bala

00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:06.869
the underwear guy i mean he's definitely has

00:31:06.869 --> 00:31:09.930
a business in his village making underwear and

00:31:09.930 --> 00:31:13.000
then like a business person who is the sole earner

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.039
of the family and leaving that business and joining

00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:19.039
the army is a very very rare thing and it's like

00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.950
a it's almost never happens like i mean Yeah,

00:31:23.109 --> 00:31:25.529
and the cardinal war wasn't like a galvanizing

00:31:25.529 --> 00:31:27.769
war like the Vietnam War, right? And wasn't,

00:31:27.809 --> 00:31:29.569
can you explain a bit like how long was it even?

00:31:29.849 --> 00:31:32.789
No, it was almost a few months. It was a very,

00:31:32.970 --> 00:31:37.049
it's a very, very important point of history

00:31:37.049 --> 00:31:40.430
in India Pakistan conflict. Can you explain the

00:31:40.430 --> 00:31:43.569
origins? so what happened was original india

00:31:43.569 --> 00:31:51.650
pakistan no no no so india finds out suddenly

00:31:51.650 --> 00:31:54.910
that there have been like a bunch of gangs of

00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.140
Pakistan army the mountains there in Kashmir

00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:03.680
in Kargil so they have to chase them out so Pakistan

00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.440
always took a position officially that it was

00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.559
not their army it was like freedom fighter from

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.400
Pakistan but everyone knows that it was Pakistan's

00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.880
army even Pakistan is admit to that now but the

00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.599
Pakistan's officially never admitted so it just

00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.799
started that war that you just encroached on

00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.319
our land and then just we just fight it back

00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.839
so it was just a territorial war if this sounds

00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.619
familiar if you've read the news recently it's

00:32:30.619 --> 00:32:33.200
the exact same scenario as what just happened

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.720
recently too it seems like an endless fight over

00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:43.809
the Kashmir area It was way more serious than

00:32:43.809 --> 00:32:47.089
this and it was actually a real encroachment

00:32:47.089 --> 00:32:49.470
and what recently happened was a terrorist attack

00:32:49.470 --> 00:32:51.950
and India just going and fighting and then like

00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:54.329
stuff like that. But that one was a real encroachment

00:32:54.329 --> 00:32:58.049
inside the border. I did read there was 1500

00:32:58.049 --> 00:33:02.690
Indian casualties and 4000 Pakistani casualties.

00:33:02.849 --> 00:33:04.990
Yeah. So they go this war and the other big,

00:33:04.990 --> 00:33:08.190
big difference here is the Lieutenant Dan they

00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:12.680
meet. So in the original, Forrest ends up saving

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.640
some people during some bombing in Vietnam. In

00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.779
this one, he does the same, but he actually saves

00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:22.720
a soldier on the Pakistani side. In the first

00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.480
movie, they're on the same side. He's like American

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.700
soldier. But this one, he saves the Pakistani

00:33:26.700 --> 00:33:32.220
guy and brings him back to India, I guess, because

00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:34.019
his legs got cut off or something. So anyways,

00:33:34.259 --> 00:33:36.940
then he's just in India. This will become important

00:33:36.940 --> 00:33:40.220
later, but it's a very big diversion take than

00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:42.819
the original film to like save the pakistani

00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:46.440
guy then have him become dependent And kind of

00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.920
grow up in india after that. It's very weird.

00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.480
He even has like a big flat according to kaylee

00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.099
It's like in mumbai. Remember like the oh, yeah

00:33:54.099 --> 00:33:58.650
That's a complete fake Like a telephone booth

00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:02.529
operator. He rents like a telephone booth in

00:34:02.529 --> 00:34:05.950
2022 or whatever. So like no one's touching that

00:34:05.950 --> 00:34:09.670
and he's able to afford the nicest condo in Mumbai.

00:34:10.650 --> 00:34:13.050
Well, that was happening. Rupa was going through

00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:15.989
her own like art where she's like meeting some

00:34:15.989 --> 00:34:19.130
mobster to become like an action heroine in a

00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:25.960
movie. His name is Abbas. Yeah. Like classic

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.179
skis ball producer, like you have to have sex

00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:30.260
with me to get this role. And she's like, I'm

00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:31.940
not Forrest's mom. I don't sleep with people

00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:35.039
to help my position. Yeah, she does. Yeah, she

00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.699
does. You get this like weird like scene where

00:34:37.699 --> 00:34:43.780
like, you know, Lyle goes gets like awarded for

00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.420
being a hero from the Cargill war. And then like

00:34:46.420 --> 00:34:48.619
he just walks on the street and happens to like

00:34:48.619 --> 00:34:52.000
catch Rupa in the car and he actually runs after

00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.139
the car. to this like hotel this swanky hotel

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:58.519
and then he sees like the the mobster hitting

00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.460
rupa which by the way we we did point out there's

00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:04.800
a lot of hitting women here oh yeah it's always

00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.679
christians and muslims beating women yeah and

00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.679
then like you know he he hits like he he beats

00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.119
up abbas and then like abbas said something like

00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.599
oh it's you know it's a good thing i have a lot

00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.769
of respect for the indian army Nationalism India's

00:35:19.769 --> 00:35:22.389
superior, even though I'm a mob star. Thank you

00:35:22.389 --> 00:35:25.070
for your service, sir Thanks for punching me

00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:27.030
in the face, sir. Thanks for saving cashmere,

00:35:27.170 --> 00:35:29.489
sir So like they like there's this like and then

00:35:29.489 --> 00:35:31.530
next we have like this like New Year's party

00:35:31.530 --> 00:35:34.369
where they're like where lol is sitting at a

00:35:34.369 --> 00:35:42.670
bar with Yeah on wheelchair and all and they're

00:35:42.670 --> 00:35:45.849
talking about starting the the undergarment business

00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.980
I am talking about the garments to like the the

00:35:48.980 --> 00:35:50.380
bubblegum thing like was interesting because

00:35:50.380 --> 00:35:51.940
he's like really into shrimp and stuff. This

00:35:51.940 --> 00:35:55.280
guy just makes undergarments and they do have

00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.440
a very funny like scene where like he does like

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.320
Marxism 101 where he explains like how to like

00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:04.300
hire multiple garment workers and like how much

00:36:04.300 --> 00:36:06.119
they can produce each day and how much they need

00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.159
to produce total in like a week to sell and how

00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.019
much profit they can make. It's just like a very

00:36:10.019 --> 00:36:12.679
nice graphical explanation of like I don't like

00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:14.340
exploit labor. It's just interesting. And then

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:16.360
he breaks it down for Indian Lieutenant Dan.

00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:18.960
Yeah. And then we get like another like total

00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.000
whiplash where like he's just like watching TV

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.179
where like the 2006 bombing. OK, so what happens

00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:29.440
is like so. So here the Mohammed Paji is not

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.800
shown as a Pakistani army person. He is shown

00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.219
as like a terrorist, like a Islamic terrorist.

00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:39.250
And then. He sees the 2006 Mumbai attack, which

00:36:39.250 --> 00:36:41.949
was a horrific attack by it was also linked to

00:36:41.949 --> 00:36:46.269
Pakistan. It was also linked to Lashkar -e -Taiba.

00:36:46.349 --> 00:36:49.469
It's like one of the Pakistani terrorist gang.

00:36:50.210 --> 00:36:53.690
So Ajmal Kasab, he was looking at Kasab's footage

00:36:53.690 --> 00:37:03.030
on the TV and he realizes that anti -India Propaganda

00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:05.710
that he grew up with is still going on in Pakistan

00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:08.769
and the youth is like still brainwashed and so

00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:15.690
he has to go back to Pakistan to like help Kids

00:37:15.690 --> 00:37:19.269
not fall into that Islamic propaganda. It's crazy

00:37:19.269 --> 00:37:22.250
He says he's like we've he said himself. He's

00:37:22.250 --> 00:37:25.230
like I grew up learning so much hate and Like

00:37:25.230 --> 00:37:27.510
thank you so much for like showing me that Indians

00:37:27.510 --> 00:37:30.090
are actually really cool and based and you're

00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:32.570
the good guys and I'm gonna go back to my home

00:37:32.570 --> 00:37:35.269
country and teach them that we're the bad guys

00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:38.469
and to stop brainwashing them so they hate Indians

00:37:38.469 --> 00:37:42.289
for zero reason. It was a surreal scene. We were

00:37:42.289 --> 00:37:45.409
just laughing at how surreal it was. Like how

00:37:45.409 --> 00:37:47.429
could you be watching that though and not feel

00:37:47.429 --> 00:37:49.769
some sort of way? That's the thing. Like if it's

00:37:49.769 --> 00:37:51.769
just Lieutenant Dan with a bunch of hookers in

00:37:51.769 --> 00:37:54.670
the original movie, it's fun. But when he's like,

00:37:54.670 --> 00:37:57.329
you know, from the other side and just saying

00:37:57.329 --> 00:37:59.289
like, yeah, Indians are the best and Pakistan

00:37:59.289 --> 00:38:01.880
sucks, I'm going to go. try to make them not

00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.500
terrorists. That's like a really wild take. Yeah.

00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:07.400
So that's what they do with the that's what that's

00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.320
what I was pointing out with the religion stuff.

00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:12.360
Right. So it's like if you point out the bad

00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.940
side of one belief system in like again and again

00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:18.480
and again and you just hype up the other side.

00:38:18.739 --> 00:38:20.860
So that's like it's definitely going to look

00:38:20.860 --> 00:38:22.780
in a certain way. I mean, that's what the film

00:38:22.780 --> 00:38:26.360
was doing. It's it's like. okay i mean there

00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.340
are terrorists that's a reality but like to say

00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:32.400
that oh we are all like that and that's what

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.780
that's the only thing we are getting taught and

00:38:34.780 --> 00:38:37.059
they learn it in school like they like the schools

00:38:37.059 --> 00:38:41.159
breed terrorism is yeah it's crazy it's a wild

00:38:41.929 --> 00:38:44.909
take. And then that's where I was like, ah, man,

00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:47.769
that sucks. That sucks. And we just need to build

00:38:47.769 --> 00:38:50.190
more schools and teach kids not to because kids

00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:54.250
are born wanting to murder people in a place

00:38:54.250 --> 00:38:55.909
they've never been to. And we just need to teach

00:38:55.909 --> 00:38:57.880
them not to. It's already stupid because this

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.079
is like one indian man's actions that changed

00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.579
his mind As if on an individual level you don't

00:39:02.579 --> 00:39:05.239
have any nice pakistani people nice indian people

00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.019
He's like i've never had a friend until you because

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:09.480
pakistani guys suck literally he's like they

00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.820
were brainwashed But you saved my life now and

00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:14.280
my whole opinion about india has changed. Yeah,

00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.260
because you saved my life It's fucking wild.

00:39:16.260 --> 00:39:18.440
So they work together on the undergarment shot.

00:39:18.579 --> 00:39:21.519
Yeah Mark, he's the marketer They couldn't they

00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.199
couldn't get it off the ground at first, right?

00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:27.150
Because what is it? Because the name of undergarment

00:39:27.150 --> 00:39:33.769
was a male name yeah and they can't sell shit

00:39:33.769 --> 00:39:35.969
they cannot stay and they and they literally

00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:38.630
give it away for free so they have like scenes

00:39:38.630 --> 00:39:41.570
where like it's buy one get four free and nobody's

00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:43.750
touching it and they just have so much inventory

00:39:43.750 --> 00:39:46.070
what are we gonna do how do we fix it they were

00:39:46.070 --> 00:39:48.670
like watching like and then one day they the

00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:50.789
entire crew the entire undergarment crew was

00:39:50.789 --> 00:39:54.690
like watching like a music video of a woman,

00:39:54.889 --> 00:39:58.989
and that's when our favorite Pakistani says,

00:39:59.510 --> 00:40:04.429
that's it. Let's change it to a woman's name

00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:09.989
for a company. And what's that name? It's Rupa.

00:40:11.469 --> 00:40:14.630
The undergarment company Rupa undergarments,

00:40:14.630 --> 00:40:16.829
which I don't think a lot of foreigners would

00:40:16.829 --> 00:40:19.130
know but it's a huge It's a huge undergarment

00:40:19.130 --> 00:40:21.369
company Yeah, that's what even even that scene

00:40:21.369 --> 00:40:24.309
happened. Like I was telling you that like that

00:40:24.309 --> 00:40:27.030
wait He's like bala is talking about undergarments.

00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:30.050
So he's gonna make an undergarment company and

00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:33.130
Then I was telling you like rupa name this like

00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:35.710
rupa undergarment is he he's like and I don't

00:40:35.710 --> 00:40:37.610
know while watching the film was like That's

00:40:37.610 --> 00:40:40.329
what it's gonna be like he's gonna make the rupa

00:40:40.329 --> 00:40:42.469
undergarment and then when they named bala i

00:40:42.469 --> 00:40:45.570
i was telling adam see didn't name it he adam

00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:48.010
was like wait it will become rupa eventually

00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:51.710
and that's what happens on screen and i was like

00:40:51.710 --> 00:40:54.050
oh my god that's crazy and also if i found out

00:40:54.050 --> 00:40:56.670
like rupa the undergarment was built in like

00:40:56.670 --> 00:40:59.929
1960s yeah i mean yeah that's a promotion i mean

00:40:59.929 --> 00:41:02.130
that's okay what's the other price to hear it's

00:41:02.130 --> 00:41:04.369
a real company so it actually produces men's

00:41:04.369 --> 00:41:05.690
undergarments because in the movie when they

00:41:05.690 --> 00:41:07.289
changed it to women's name i was just like i

00:41:07.289 --> 00:41:09.909
don't get the logic because it makes no sense

00:41:09.909 --> 00:41:12.789
man because because why would people only bite

00:41:12.789 --> 00:41:14.869
if it has and that's the other thing like the

00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.650
guys like just name it after any woman he's like

00:41:17.650 --> 00:41:19.809
we just need a woman's name and so he calls it

00:41:19.809 --> 00:41:22.070
rupa and then it's just flying off the shelves

00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:25.460
when have you ever bought an undergarment when

00:41:25.460 --> 00:41:28.420
they changed the name like it's super weird like

00:41:28.420 --> 00:41:30.340
i need my underwear to have a woman's name on

00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:32.199
it i wonder if i had the same success it was

00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.599
like fatima undergarments or if that would go

00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:36.860
again it doesn't matter just any woman's name

00:41:36.860 --> 00:41:39.199
and the thing will sell from a wrong wrong side

00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.719
but to be honest like i was a loyal customer

00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.719
of rupa underwear because i used to like the

00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.969
cut of the the The, what is it called? Benyon?

00:41:49.630 --> 00:41:52.789
We call it a wife beater, which is crazy. In

00:41:52.789 --> 00:41:54.789
America, we call that a wife beater. It's called

00:41:54.789 --> 00:41:57.570
a vest. A vest is the most neutral, but literally

00:41:57.570 --> 00:42:01.409
a wife beater. It's like a connotation, like

00:42:01.409 --> 00:42:03.809
it's, you know, hicks that wear it. Uh huh. Okay.

00:42:03.889 --> 00:42:06.849
Yeah. So yeah, the vest, I was really, I really

00:42:06.849 --> 00:42:09.409
liked the cut of the vest. So I was a very loyal

00:42:09.409 --> 00:42:10.849
customer. You can bend your arms backwards like

00:42:10.849 --> 00:42:14.550
this. Yeah, that's what Bala says. Like, you

00:42:14.550 --> 00:42:18.360
know, like it's very important. Anyway in the

00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.260
original like again, they make bubblegum shrimp,

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.139
and that's not a real company became one later

00:42:22.139 --> 00:42:25.119
But this one it is like a straight -up just promotion

00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.780
for Rupa undergarment Paramount was not giving

00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:30.639
enough money to the film I guess wild do you

00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.539
think if the Sherman company name was changed

00:42:32.539 --> 00:42:36.719
to Jenny you would buy motion way more I Don't

00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.699
I mean the reason I don't like Pepsi is because

00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:41.099
it's it's not a girl name And I'm just so I don't

00:42:41.099 --> 00:42:42.840
know what to do with it. You know that's why

00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:47.260
I drink Coca -Cola Koka is Koka's female name

00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:49.760
somewhere and so I think and so that's why I

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:54.619
drink it Yeah, so he gets rich from Rupa undergarments

00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:59.260
like nonchalantly very casually drops the like

00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:02.579
like lols casually drops that he's the CEO Rupa

00:43:03.349 --> 00:43:06.510
He still has a sewing machine in his CEO office.

00:43:06.510 --> 00:43:09.030
He just loves it. That is the one funny part.

00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:11.849
He's like, oh, yeah, I'm the CEO and I make these

00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:14.090
myself. And when he's bored, he just makes his

00:43:14.090 --> 00:43:16.530
own undergarments, which is very funny to imagine.

00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:19.389
He's not exploiting levers. He's exploiting himself.

00:43:19.449 --> 00:43:22.110
Yeah, good for him. So he gets loaded and he

00:43:22.110 --> 00:43:24.409
decides to go back home because his mom was on

00:43:24.409 --> 00:43:27.170
her deathbed. And, you know, he tends to her

00:43:27.170 --> 00:43:31.469
and then she she passes away and then. Eventually

00:43:31.469 --> 00:43:34.690
Rupa shows up and you know, this is the scene

00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:37.150
I think it's exactly the same scene as in Forrest

00:43:37.150 --> 00:43:40.829
Gump, you know, they spend time together Reunited

00:43:40.829 --> 00:43:43.929
and you know, there's like a there's like a shot

00:43:43.929 --> 00:43:47.469
where they're like sitting out and at night and

00:43:47.469 --> 00:43:50.389
Lal confesses his love for her and he says but

00:43:50.389 --> 00:43:53.889
you won't I Paraphrase it. Okay, you won't have

00:43:53.889 --> 00:43:58.719
sex with me because I'm dumb Right. And you know,

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.139
that's when, you know, you get that like tender

00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:04.199
love scene, which was OK, you know, I have sex.

00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.380
They're not married. That's pretty good. OK.

00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:11.039
But then she like overnight, she is like, I think

00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.980
in Forrest Gump, she leaves him. That's it. But

00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:18.199
in this one, she goes, the police comes after

00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:22.500
her. We why? Because she was going to be a whistleblower

00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:27.280
for the for the mobster. Yeah. That's that was

00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.400
it. Interesting. OK, so I have this question

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.440
for you in and I think I didn't totally understand

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.199
because like I don't speak the language. It was

00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.400
just subtitles. Is he does he have an accent

00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.780
and does his character like appear? Does he speak

00:44:45.780 --> 00:44:49.139
stupid? Like Forrest Gump has like a southern

00:44:49.139 --> 00:44:51.440
accent and kind of talks a little slow. Does

00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:56.179
he do the same thing here? Oh, interesting question.

00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.980
Let me remember that. Uh huh. I'm just curious

00:44:59.980 --> 00:45:02.519
because in the original, like, you know, yeah,

00:45:02.619 --> 00:45:04.719
Jenny does leave and can't be with him. He does

00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:06.519
like love. Jenny wants to marry her, but Jenny

00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.880
can't be with him. And you get why, like he isn't

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.900
a fully developed adult. Like he is slow and

00:45:11.900 --> 00:45:14.079
forced gum. And you understand, like she can't

00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.920
have like a meaningful relationship with him.

00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:21.239
He's just not on that level. So you get it. And

00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.159
again, I just couldn't tell if I didn't understand.

00:45:23.389 --> 00:45:25.010
His character in this movie or not, but like

00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:28.670
I didn't see a reason why Rupa couldn't be with

00:45:28.670 --> 00:45:32.530
him with like Yeah, that was a very I mean, maybe

00:45:32.530 --> 00:45:36.590
it's a similar similar Motivation not to be with

00:45:36.590 --> 00:45:38.929
him because he's kind of childish but is that

00:45:38.929 --> 00:45:41.230
obvious because I just couldn't tell But I don't

00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:42.869
remember. So, I mean, I also watched for his

00:45:42.869 --> 00:45:45.150
gun probably over a decade ago now I don't remember

00:45:45.150 --> 00:45:47.889
but I don't think for his character was also

00:45:47.889 --> 00:45:50.809
like unlovable to the degree that not unlovable

00:45:50.809 --> 00:45:54.980
issues. He wasn't capable of of of being on that

00:45:54.980 --> 00:45:58.579
emotional level he's just too slow so it's not

00:45:58.579 --> 00:46:00.260
that like he can't or he's not alone he's very

00:46:00.260 --> 00:46:02.239
lovable and she loves him she loves him deeply

00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.739
but she can't get out of him what a normal adult

00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:09.099
relationship would have and that's very obvious

00:46:09.099 --> 00:46:11.039
in the movie and so it's not just her it's like

00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.059
anyone but i'm curious if that is conveyed in

00:46:14.059 --> 00:46:16.019
this i don't think the movie kind of drills down

00:46:16.019 --> 00:46:17.659
upon that a little bit too much i think that

00:46:17.659 --> 00:46:20.550
kind of portray it more as rupa choosing that

00:46:20.550 --> 00:46:22.510
because she has the agenda like like hilly said

00:46:22.510 --> 00:46:24.349
she wants to become famous so it's just like

00:46:24.349 --> 00:46:27.809
a misalignment in desires so that's a big difference

00:46:27.809 --> 00:46:29.690
then that's a huge difference then because in

00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:31.369
this one like in the original they did want to

00:46:31.369 --> 00:46:33.590
be together and jenny loved him but just couldn't

00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:36.210
and in this one it just means he is capable of

00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:38.829
being in a relationship i felt that way and there's

00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:41.869
not a really good reason why she isn't with him

00:46:41.869 --> 00:46:43.869
honestly like watching this i don't think the

00:46:43.869 --> 00:46:46.900
movie Like, Rupa does not really shine in a very

00:46:46.900 --> 00:46:49.059
positive light. I don't remember how Jenny was

00:46:49.059 --> 00:46:51.800
portrayed, but I think Rupa, like, in the grand

00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:53.900
scheme of things, comes off as a bit selfish

00:46:53.900 --> 00:46:56.440
in this movie. And you kind of see her recognize

00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:58.960
that towards the end, but then at the same time,

00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.000
like, she gets with Laosing knowing that she

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.260
has the illness. I don't know, it just kind of

00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:06.579
seems like a matter of convenience in this movie,

00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.280
and like, where she doesn't have anyone else,

00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.300
she has a kid now, so she has to go for him.

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.389
I didn't see the... love from her side as being

00:47:13.389 --> 00:47:16.269
very genuine. In the original, the love is very

00:47:16.269 --> 00:47:19.449
genuine. She is just trying to pursue her dreams

00:47:19.449 --> 00:47:23.389
and joins hippies for a while and joins some

00:47:23.389 --> 00:47:26.150
political protesters. She is following her heart

00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:28.329
and she's constantly punished to the point where

00:47:28.329 --> 00:47:31.730
she ends up playing music nude in a strip show

00:47:31.730 --> 00:47:35.610
venue and then she gets AIDS and dies. The movie

00:47:35.610 --> 00:47:39.789
punishes Jenny. But the love connection is really

00:47:39.789 --> 00:47:42.139
strong in that movie. and you still understand

00:47:42.139 --> 00:47:44.159
why she can't be with forest even though she

00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.400
would want to actually but in this one i didn't

00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.019
feel that from rupa at all i didn't feel the

00:47:49.019 --> 00:47:51.619
connection and i feel like he is he could be

00:47:51.619 --> 00:47:53.480
in a relationship if you wanted to i didn't get

00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.539
the character i think also one another motivation

00:47:55.539 --> 00:47:58.300
is like when you are dating with a mobster if

00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:03.519
you leave him you are you might put life in danger

00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:08.099
yours and also like the guy you are going with

00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:10.659
so that can be another motivation because when

00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:13.820
they connect was that that New Delhi at night

00:48:13.820 --> 00:48:16.019
they'd have like a nice romantic walk I mean

00:48:16.019 --> 00:48:17.780
that's the first time they connect back right

00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:20.460
like he's back from army it's just so that's

00:48:20.460 --> 00:48:22.599
point of time like I think one motivation is

00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.539
she still sees that this relationship will get

00:48:25.539 --> 00:48:30.090
her make lander all in Bollywood And she will

00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:32.889
become an actor. And also, secondly, she's dating

00:48:32.889 --> 00:48:35.610
this huge mobster. And then if she leaves him,

00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:38.710
it's going to be it might be fatal for her and

00:48:38.710 --> 00:48:42.409
as well as the boy as well. So, I mean, I mean,

00:48:42.710 --> 00:48:44.590
yeah, that's a character failing. And then it's

00:48:44.590 --> 00:48:47.650
a very different tone anyway. So, yeah, that

00:48:47.650 --> 00:48:49.309
that part didn't really work for me because her

00:48:49.309 --> 00:48:51.050
motivations are unclear and they don't have a

00:48:51.050 --> 00:48:54.150
deep love. connection he loves her a lot i think

00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:56.030
you see that in the movie where like he's always

00:48:56.030 --> 00:48:57.869
willing to save her he'll come to her rescue

00:48:57.869 --> 00:48:59.889
at any time and you almost kind of feel like

00:48:59.889 --> 00:49:02.309
her she knows that and she just keeps that as

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:04.929
kind of the safety net but will never prioritize

00:49:04.929 --> 00:49:09.269
him the music expresses his feelings too yeah

00:49:09.269 --> 00:49:11.789
yeah i don't think adam listened to it since

00:49:11.789 --> 00:49:14.750
there was no dance number i did not yeah i actually

00:49:14.750 --> 00:49:16.869
was completely zoned out during the music stuff

00:49:16.869 --> 00:49:19.750
i did not care i was yeah maybe i read The lyrics

00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:21.690
a little too much. I was like staring at the

00:49:21.690 --> 00:49:24.070
wall. So yeah, like she, she, you know, she turns,

00:49:24.269 --> 00:49:26.610
she turns to the police, uh, ex whistleblower

00:49:26.610 --> 00:49:30.289
to a boss and goes to a salon, works at a salon

00:49:30.289 --> 00:49:34.050
as a receptionist. Yeah. And at like a nice modern

00:49:34.050 --> 00:49:36.550
day salon. Like, okay, whatever. And you know,

00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:38.409
just like in Forrest Gump, this, this hurts him

00:49:38.409 --> 00:49:41.440
when she leaves him. So he goes running. I don't

00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.159
know how long in this version, I don't remember.

00:49:43.380 --> 00:49:45.440
Four years. Four years? Okay. Same as the original.

00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.320
Same as the original. Then he runs and runs and...

00:49:49.949 --> 00:49:52.570
Those are all the Indian landmarks. Yeah, it

00:49:52.570 --> 00:49:55.670
goes through like the Anahasari strike. Yeah,

00:49:55.670 --> 00:49:58.610
Anahasari strike. That was a very anti -corruption

00:49:58.610 --> 00:50:00.829
movement happening before BJP came to power.

00:50:00.889 --> 00:50:02.849
He was like a very dubious person, like at not

00:50:02.849 --> 00:50:05.630
that point of time, but later we found out because

00:50:05.630 --> 00:50:08.389
he doesn't say a word against the current government

00:50:08.389 --> 00:50:10.849
at all. And then in the same run, he runs by

00:50:10.849 --> 00:50:13.750
a big Modi poster. So I was like, okay, here

00:50:13.750 --> 00:50:18.619
we go. Anyway, big advertisement for Modi. in

00:50:18.619 --> 00:50:21.699
very nasty yeah and then you know i guess he

00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:24.699
stops running and then decides to wear a turban

00:50:24.699 --> 00:50:27.519
that's simply speaking well because while he's

00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.039
running for four years his hair grows his beard

00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.119
grows and then he goes home and he looks in the

00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.099
mirror and he's like oh i finally look like my

00:50:34.099 --> 00:50:36.989
grandparents like my grandfather And there's

00:50:36.989 --> 00:50:39.090
this really nice scene where they play the Ardas

00:50:39.090 --> 00:50:41.409
in the background. There's this prayer. I think

00:50:41.409 --> 00:50:43.150
most Sikhs grow up saying it. I remember the

00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:44.670
whole thing because I said it every night, even

00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:46.389
though I don't remember. I don't understand what

00:50:46.389 --> 00:50:49.369
it means. But this is like the Shabad is playing

00:50:49.369 --> 00:50:51.489
in the background and he's tying his turban.

00:50:51.969 --> 00:50:53.650
That was a nice scene. Why do you think they

00:50:53.650 --> 00:50:57.300
made him Sikh in this? You know, I was talking

00:50:57.300 --> 00:50:59.320
to Achille about this because the anti -Sikh

00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.659
riots, they display that and they see him kind

00:51:01.659 --> 00:51:03.980
of be in the middle of that. He has a Jura when

00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:06.699
he's a young boy and his mom's hiding him, literally

00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:08.619
putting her Chunni over him to hide the fact

00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:11.130
that he's a Sikh boy. because it's identifiable

00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:13.309
with the guy and that's a woman right and so

00:51:13.309 --> 00:51:15.170
this moment of desperation she finds like a shard

00:51:15.170 --> 00:51:16.809
of glass on the ground and just starts chopping

00:51:16.809 --> 00:51:20.570
his hair off um but then then at the end the

00:51:20.570 --> 00:51:23.050
movie kind of ends up having a very pro -hindu

00:51:23.050 --> 00:51:25.269
narrative so i find it quite ironic that the

00:51:25.269 --> 00:51:27.710
main character is seek and you kind of see the

00:51:27.710 --> 00:51:29.969
anti -seek riots play out very much at the hands

00:51:29.969 --> 00:51:33.219
of muslims And no, I mean, I'm sorry, but very

00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:35.699
much at the hands of Hindus Congress Party. And

00:51:35.699 --> 00:51:37.360
then at towards the end, it becomes like a pro

00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.579
-Hindu movie. And you know, this anti -seek riots

00:51:39.579 --> 00:51:41.980
was never addressed throughout Indian history.

00:51:42.260 --> 00:51:44.059
I think they tried to like set up committees

00:51:44.059 --> 00:51:46.300
and all, but there's very limited accountability.

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:49.019
There's been almost little to no prosecute, like

00:51:49.019 --> 00:51:51.960
prosecution for people who were responsible for

00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.739
it. So it's very ironic. It's kind of like, I'm

00:51:54.739 --> 00:51:56.880
so curious though, because it is so pro -Hindu

00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:59.619
and like, and it's a total choice to make him

00:51:59.619 --> 00:52:03.190
seek. here's why i i had the same exact question

00:52:03.190 --> 00:52:05.530
as you adam and like i don't know if it was a

00:52:05.530 --> 00:52:07.269
slow character so they thought having a sing

00:52:07.269 --> 00:52:09.530
would kind of fit the seek i think that they

00:52:09.530 --> 00:52:13.530
keep having in in bollywood but i don't know

00:52:13.530 --> 00:52:16.309
i think while otherizing every other religion

00:52:16.309 --> 00:52:20.789
they needed one ally neutral and like sickism

00:52:20.789 --> 00:52:24.070
yeah historically a neutral religion between

00:52:24.070 --> 00:52:26.449
islam and hinduism do you think they were trying

00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:28.929
to show like this is what a good seek is or something

00:52:28.929 --> 00:52:31.170
i don't know i'm just trying to like no no no

00:52:31.170 --> 00:52:32.969
no i don't think we'll be placed into that i

00:52:32.969 --> 00:52:36.150
think it's just we really rarely has bad seek

00:52:36.150 --> 00:52:39.110
characters uh so i think the india carries this

00:52:39.110 --> 00:52:41.269
guilt of like bollywood at least carries this

00:52:41.269 --> 00:52:43.309
guilt of like anti -sick program and everything

00:52:43.309 --> 00:52:48.739
and then They will very rarely have a bad Sikh

00:52:48.739 --> 00:52:52.039
character in Bollywood films, to be honest. Singhis

00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.199
King, we learned that. Singhis King is the best

00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.420
movie to know how to be a good Sikh. If you really

00:52:57.420 --> 00:53:01.860
want to know the story of Sikhism, I think they

00:53:01.860 --> 00:53:03.880
should teach it in schools in Pakistan so they

00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.780
can learn how good Sikhs are. Not a single writer

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:10.840
or anyone was Sikh in that film. Yeah, I'm not

00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:16.659
surprised. All right, so Jenny so yeah So as

00:53:16.659 --> 00:53:19.400
he wears the turban right that we go to the present

00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.559
where he's on his way to see Jenny on his way

00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:27.280
to see Rupa and you know, we have that same scene,

00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:31.360
you know, he meets Rupa and Lo and behold she

00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.659
has a child and he finds out Indian Haley Joel

00:53:34.659 --> 00:53:38.579
Osmond And he's that he's the father. Yeah, and

00:53:38.579 --> 00:53:40.719
we find out he's the father and the thing that

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.250
Adam showed us that It's an exact replica of

00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:47.070
that shot of the scene where like the boy runs

00:53:47.070 --> 00:53:51.570
into another like into the TV room and watches

00:53:51.570 --> 00:53:57.469
TV also with a also with a Receptionist of a

00:53:57.469 --> 00:54:01.789
saloon salary. Okay with that two bedroom apartment

00:54:01.789 --> 00:54:06.730
fuck you Or she definitely milked the mobster

00:54:06.730 --> 00:54:13.380
before she left him. Oh Yeah, okay Yeah, I showed

00:54:13.380 --> 00:54:16.059
those things just because the contrast in acting

00:54:16.059 --> 00:54:20.300
is huge I mean you guys saw the the original

00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:23.159
just before we recorded did you? Feel I mean

00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.880
did that stand out as like it's a moving scene.

00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.559
I think yeah Yeah, that was like very over -the

00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.940
-top the acting of American was very over -the

00:54:30.940 --> 00:54:33.900
-top like when he gets shocked those those two

00:54:33.900 --> 00:54:36.099
expressions from like Tom Hanks and Aamir Khan

00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:39.039
is like very substantially different but given

00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.139
like the Bollywood actors acting skills I would

00:54:42.139 --> 00:54:46.159
put it like not that bad because the bar is low

00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:48.880
for me like when I watch a Hollywood film like

00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:51.139
it's most of the time the actors are acting way

00:54:51.139 --> 00:54:53.820
better than the standard Bollywood actors yeah

00:54:53.820 --> 00:54:55.840
but they're capable of it but I just think he

00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.400
doesn't trust it again he like falls on the script

00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.360
to explain what he's feeling like is the sun

00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.000
dumb like me and he just doesn't carry it the

00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.679
music hits too hard and I think that's just the

00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.840
big difference between like why literally no

00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:09.519
one else except tom hanks can really pull this

00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.239
off that's the script writing 101 tail don't

00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:17.099
show yeah thanks movie I'm feeling I hope my

00:55:17.099 --> 00:55:20.159
kid isn't stupid like me is he? that's borrowed

00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.320
from pitch meeting yeah and yeah I guess we can

00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.929
just wrap it up it ends with you know Rupa falling

00:55:27.929 --> 00:55:30.530
into sickness. Wait, they they marry they marry

00:55:30.530 --> 00:55:33.050
first. They have a very nice marriage with like

00:55:33.050 --> 00:55:39.530
a musical number. Yeah, and And then I lost my

00:55:39.530 --> 00:55:41.289
train. She doesn't die from AIDS. She does not

00:55:41.289 --> 00:55:42.690
die. That's what I was gonna say she doesn't

00:55:42.690 --> 00:55:49.929
die from AIDS, but Cancer she doesn't like some

00:55:49.929 --> 00:55:53.050
virus millionaires wife never could be diagnosed

00:55:53.050 --> 00:55:57.730
like what what ailment is She went through the

00:55:57.730 --> 00:56:04.570
final destination Machine we'll figure out what's

00:56:04.570 --> 00:56:07.610
wrong with you And then she gets like killed

00:56:07.610 --> 00:56:10.010
by like a Prince Charles piercing that goes through

00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:12.730
that guy into her face bending her body like

00:56:16.409 --> 00:56:19.530
That's how uh, yeah, she just ups and vanishes

00:56:19.530 --> 00:56:23.329
from the face of the earth And then yeah, I just

00:56:23.329 --> 00:56:25.929
you know, you get this like tinder ending scene

00:56:25.929 --> 00:56:29.150
where you know, uh lal is sending off his sending

00:56:29.150 --> 00:56:32.590
his kid off to school and then he like Sits with

00:56:32.590 --> 00:56:34.929
his was it a box of gaffas? I don't remember

00:56:34.929 --> 00:56:37.130
but they're like, yeah, and then like feather

00:56:37.130 --> 00:56:39.250
goes out and yeah, that that's it That's our

00:56:39.250 --> 00:56:43.239
that's that's the last thing chata Yay guys,

00:56:43.300 --> 00:56:46.099
but her name leaves on in every man's underwear

00:56:46.099 --> 00:56:52.019
So the fear stair scale number one is there a

00:56:52.019 --> 00:56:57.059
staircase moment for you in this movie Not really

00:56:57.059 --> 00:56:59.940
because like it's so close to the original forest

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:01.960
gum that you can kind of see everything coming

00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.460
Yeah, except the Pakistani lieutenant Dan. That

00:57:04.460 --> 00:57:06.619
is true. That is true when he talks about opening

00:57:06.619 --> 00:57:09.360
up a school to unbrainwashed people. Yeah, that

00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.559
was a wild out of the blue thing. For me, kind

00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.599
of was like when Rupa has a kid, but like she

00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.980
never tried to stop or contact Forrest being

00:57:20.980 --> 00:57:25.260
a millionaire. Like she knows her son is a millionaire.

00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.679
It's I mean, this guy who would do anything for

00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.599
her. She has a son and then never contacts. He

00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.679
could fund a movie where she's the heroine. Yeah.

00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.219
Yeah. Let's think about this. Oh, yeah. Yes.

00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:41.980
All right. Next dance floor clause. Was there

00:57:41.980 --> 00:57:45.860
a musical number? No. No, there wasn't. There

00:57:45.860 --> 00:57:49.739
was music. Yeah. Which I like I think this well

00:57:49.739 --> 00:57:52.059
really it was like two soft songs, right? Yeah,

00:57:52.059 --> 00:57:54.199
I don't think we need dance numbers. I guess

00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:55.920
Adam likes it But well, if you're gonna make

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.280
a Bollywood like Forrest Gump movie, I mean,

00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.139
come on, but it's all about his feelings towards

00:58:01.139 --> 00:58:03.500
Rupa That's that was it. I remember like it was

00:58:03.500 --> 00:58:09.460
just the same thing Family feud factor It's forced

00:58:09.460 --> 00:58:12.000
Rupa's Rupa's dad beating the shit out of her

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.619
his mama out of the mom in the in the original

00:58:14.619 --> 00:58:18.289
he molests Jenny Oh, yeah, she gets molested

00:58:18.289 --> 00:58:22.269
by her dad in the original father No her dad

00:58:22.269 --> 00:58:26.829
and then And he goes to jail in this one. He

00:58:26.829 --> 00:58:29.570
just beats the mom and actually beats like she

00:58:29.570 --> 00:58:33.550
ends up dying her mom Yeah, and I will say the

00:58:33.550 --> 00:58:35.349
really funny part is then she goes to live with

00:58:35.349 --> 00:58:39.590
her grandma and the grandma is Law Singh Chaddha's

00:58:39.590 --> 00:58:42.800
servant In this one. And so then she like lives

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.039
in his house, which is like that's nothing like

00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:46.639
the original. But yeah, the grandma actually

00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:49.179
happens to be like their servant, which is weird.

00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:53.800
Family feud. Yeah, not much. Not much. Family

00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:57.219
is the greatest place to be. Thanks, Kelly. Those

00:58:57.219 --> 00:59:01.380
are wise words. Spice level. Regional heat check.

00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.440
Kelly, was this culturally or regionally accurate?

00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:11.780
I don't know. I guess so. Yeah, or no, but like

00:59:11.780 --> 00:59:15.039
Golgappa doesn't come in a box. So yeah. Yeah,

00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.400
big X on that one. That's not how you eat it.

00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.219
They do depict a lot of Indian historical events

00:59:21.219 --> 00:59:23.679
quite well, I'd say. But then at the end, becoming

00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:29.579
a pro Hindutva, BJP movie kind of ruins any regional

00:59:29.579 --> 00:59:32.119
heat. And that brings us to our last one, The

00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:36.019
Moral. How'd the movie leave you feeling? Or

00:59:36.019 --> 00:59:42.159
what's the movie's message? That's the message

00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:45.880
I got was like Pakistanis are like trained to

00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:55.539
hate people All right, thanks for tuning in This

00:59:55.539 --> 00:59:57.000
this movie's on Netflix. So if you guys want

00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.800
to watch it go ahead I don't know. Would you

00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:04.289
recommend it? If you're curious only if you if

01:00:04.289 --> 01:00:06.949
you're a huge fan of Forrest Gump and when I

01:00:06.949 --> 01:00:09.489
say huge fan I mean like really huge fan because

01:00:09.489 --> 01:00:12.150
Forrest Gump is just one of those movies that

01:00:12.150 --> 01:00:14.710
People are now looking at it in a different lens

01:00:15.349 --> 01:00:17.469
Today, yeah, it's just one of those movies that

01:00:17.469 --> 01:00:21.170
doesn't fly right in in a modern undermining

01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:27.170
all the black achievements like if You know you

01:00:27.170 --> 01:00:29.670
want to like study kind of acting It's really

01:00:29.670 --> 01:00:31.309
good good to like watch a movie with the exact

01:00:31.309 --> 01:00:32.909
same character in the exact same events and kind

01:00:32.909 --> 01:00:37.849
of contrast Otherwise, yes, save it. Yeah, it's

01:00:37.849 --> 01:00:41.329
funny because I was so eager to watch this but

01:00:41.329 --> 01:00:44.369
after watching and I'm just like it's kind of

01:00:45.269 --> 01:00:47.550
Yeah, and that was the audience's reaction to

01:00:47.550 --> 01:00:51.650
it too. Alright, see you guys next time. Thanks

01:00:51.650 --> 01:00:52.489
for listening.
