1 00:00:01,060 --> 00:00:02,200 Winnie: I'll just eat a slice of bread. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,740 Khilli: With popcorn too? 3 00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:05,000 Winnie: No, just plain bread. 4 00:00:05,490 --> 00:00:05,940 Khilli: With popcorn. 5 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,680 Khilli: But bring the popcorn. 6 00:00:06,940 --> 00:00:07,680 Winnie: Okay, bring the popcorn. 7 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:08,120 Winnie: You have the 8 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Khilli: popcorn? 9 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:08,820 Khilli: Yeah. 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,760 Winnie: Welcome to Fear of Stairs, Desi Films Decoded, the podcast where four friends from different 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,660 Winnie: backgrounds unlock the world of Desi Cinema. 12 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:30,160 Winnie: I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been to India. 13 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:31,900 Khilli: Hey, I'm Kili. 14 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:32,760 Khilli: I'm from India. 15 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:38,600 Nicky: I'm Nikki, and sometimes I'm very disappointed when a piece of media has no boobs. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,480 Nicky: I'm Nikki. 17 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,020 Adam: I agree with that. I'm Adam. I'm American. 18 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:46,260 Adam: And today I kind of feel sorry for Nikki for navigating the story. 19 00:00:47,239 --> 00:00:50,860 Adam: When I was watching this, I was trying to figure out how you were going to be able to do this. 20 00:00:51,340 --> 00:00:53,660 Nicky: Yeah, this movie was just... 21 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:54,660 Nicky: It's a movie. 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,820 Nicky: It's a movie. It's a... 23 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,460 Winnie: erotic thriller that 24 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:02,620 Nicky: takes place in bangkok of 25 00:01:02,620 --> 00:01:03,239 Winnie: all places 26 00:01:03,239 --> 00:01:06,119 Nicky: not that that's important in any way 27 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,159 Nicky: let's be honest 28 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:11,840 Adam: yeah so killie what what is this movie why'd you pick it oh 29 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,780 Khilli: yeah so this film is 30 00:01:14,060 --> 00:01:19,700 Khilli: murder it came out on uh 2004 came out in 2004 and 31 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:35,000 Khilli: So this was like, so when we were going through feberty phase, this was kind of a talk of the town in everywhere. And that was the kind of era where Bollywood was... 32 00:01:35,180 --> 00:01:39,340 Khilli: doing a lot of erotic film for the big screen. 33 00:01:39,810 --> 00:01:42,800 Khilli: In a way, this film was very controversial when it came out. 34 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:49,660 Khilli: I think that the IMDb rating and the Rotten Tomatoes rating kind of reflects the... 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Khilli: Because I've seen like way worse film from Bollywood. 36 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: And they have 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Khilli: better IMDb rating or Rotten Tomatoes 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:58,680 Winnie: rating. 39 00:01:58,890 --> 00:01:59,380 Winnie: We are from 40 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:00,040 Khilli: that era. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:15,940 Winnie: So this came out in 2004 and you said that movies around that time were already starting to portray intimate scenes, make out scenes. Was that so or was this kind of like a breakthrough in the sense that it was the first mainstream Bollywood film that explored so much creativity? 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,260 Winnie: sexuality. 43 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:18,080 Khilli: There were films before. 44 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:19,800 Khilli: There were films before. 45 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:23,920 Khilli: This producer guy, Mahesh Bhatt, 46 00:02:24,019 --> 00:02:26,480 Khilli: he was known for making those kind of films 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,599 Khilli: even in the 90s. 48 00:02:27,739 --> 00:02:29,300 Khilli: But there were like one or two. 49 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:32,160 Khilli: And then it became a different genre. 50 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:34,980 Khilli: It didn't normalize... 51 00:02:35,820 --> 00:02:41,780 Khilli: having like so much of intimate scene on screen in Bollywood films because Bollywood films still 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,740 Khilli: stayed in its like behind the closed door version like you know 53 00:02:46,740 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: cleaned 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Khilli: and like sanitized version 55 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:50,940 Khilli: of every human relationship with 56 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:53,460 Winnie: it's interesting because at 2004 I think like 57 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:55,540 Winnie: Bollywood's dominated by like current Johar 58 00:02:55,820 --> 00:02:57,440 Winnie: films, Shah Rukh Khan, Kal Ho Na Ho 59 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Winnie: came out the same year 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: and 61 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,400 Winnie: so I see 62 00:02:59,460 --> 00:03:00,940 Winnie: we have like a lot of these like traditional 63 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:03,460 Winnie: very family oriented Bollywood films 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,420 Winnie: and then this is kind of like opening up a whole 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Winnie: different genre where it became more of a cult classic 66 00:03:20,740 --> 00:03:20,980 Khilli: hit 67 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:11,840 Khilli: Bollywood has always been a place of contradiction, I guess. 68 00:03:12,230 --> 00:03:14,520 Khilli: There are different kind of films always stick together 69 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Khilli: which portraying totally different values and stuff like that. 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,300 Adam: Were women into this movie at all? 71 00:03:20,420 --> 00:03:23,000 Khilli: Yeah, I didn't have many women 72 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Adam: friends back then. 73 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:26,540 Adam: I just want to expose the truth, that's all. 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Adam: Who talked to me about 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Khilli: sex stuff, though, yeah. 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,020 Adam: 2004, so again, the iPhone came out in 2006, 77 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Adam: so no one had a smartphone yet. 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:36,739 Adam: And 79 00:03:36,739 --> 00:03:37,340 Speaker 5: so I 80 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:40,580 Adam: do think this is as erotic as you'll get 81 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:42,099 Speaker 5: right before 82 00:03:42,099 --> 00:03:44,620 Adam: all of a sudden everyone has a porn machine in their pocket. 83 00:03:45,250 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: Yes. 84 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:52,160 Adam: About 10 years after this, you just see porn when you're 10 on your phone all day. 85 00:03:53,050 --> 00:03:58,080 Adam: So I think it is an interesting time capsule of what the erotic scene is. 86 00:03:58,739 --> 00:03:59,239 Nicky: was like 87 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,319 Adam: right until everyone 88 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:02,180 Adam: was exposed to hardcore right away. 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Nicky: I just want to say that 90 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,379 Nicky: you all say it's erotic. 91 00:04:05,709 --> 00:04:07,000 Nicky: I don't think it's erotic at all. 92 00:04:07,069 --> 00:04:07,940 Speaker 5: I think it's mild. 93 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: But let's be 94 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,500 Nicky: honest, okay? 95 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:11,940 Nicky: I just want to say that 96 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:14,260 Nicky: in 2001, in Thailand, 97 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,019 Nicky: we had a movie, a period drama, 98 00:04:16,260 --> 00:04:17,799 Nicky: called Chandaraa. 99 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:18,959 Nicky: It was super erotic. 100 00:04:19,049 --> 00:04:21,420 Nicky: More erotic than whatever is showing in 2004. 101 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:23,140 Speaker 5: So 102 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:28,620 Nicky: when you say that murder is an erotic film, I was expecting that kind of level of eroticness. 103 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Nicky: Where there's nudity and some sensual ice play. 104 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:37,520 Winnie: Yeah, Nikki was very disappointed that there was not even a single boob, a single tit that 105 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:37,900 Adam: was shown. 106 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:37,940 Adam: Yeah, I was 107 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:38,640 Khilli: really disappointed. 108 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,480 Adam: No nipple play, no feet. 109 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:40,900 Adam: Nothing. 110 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:44,780 Khilli: Was that film like a mainstream film or an arthouse? 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,000 Khilli: It was a mainstream film. 112 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,620 Khilli: Was there nudity? 113 00:04:47,180 --> 00:04:47,900 Nicky: There was nudity. 114 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:48,240 Khilli: A blue? 115 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:49,580 Nicky: Full on nudity. 116 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Nicky: Male too? 117 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:55,480 Nicky: I think the man was wearing a jockstrap. 118 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,020 Nicky: I don't think you can really see it. 119 00:04:57,260 --> 00:05:04,720 Khilli: So in India, like whatever nudity we saw, like before that, whatever came out was a part of like, you know, kind of an arthouse-y kind of films and stuff like that. 120 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Khilli: Like we watched All We Imagine and Slight, like that kind of scenes or even if it's love scene or something like that, it's kind of an artsy scenes and then... 121 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:20,340 Khilli: Like, have this kind of cheesy story, like a mainstream Bollywood film with songs and stuff like that. 122 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,040 Khilli: It was one of the first ones. 123 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,240 Khilli: I mean, there had been before, but so many scenes, no. 124 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:36,160 Winnie: Yeah, so it seems like the early 2000s was a horny period of time for everyone because this movie is actually based on the 2001 Hollywood film, Unfaithful. 125 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:37,960 Winnie: With Richard Gere. 126 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Winnie: And that is a movie based on a French film from like the 1960s. 127 00:05:43,660 --> 00:05:44,920 Winnie: Also called Unfaithful, I believe. 128 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,260 Winnie: Is it the same story? 129 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:46,900 Winnie: I haven't seen 130 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:47,960 Adam: any of the previous films. 131 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,060 Adam: I 132 00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:48,840 Khilli: said it's the same. 133 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,440 Khilli: So it's almost the same. 134 00:05:51,020 --> 00:05:54,040 Khilli: But the focus on the husband is more kind of. 135 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:56,960 Khilli: And then it ends where he kills them. 136 00:05:57,020 --> 00:05:58,540 Winnie: So the husband... 137 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,220 Winnie: Oh, well, we're getting into the plot and the spoilers already. 138 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,740 Adam: Oh, I'm sure we're getting to it, yeah. 139 00:06:04,060 --> 00:06:05,700 Winnie: Yeah, Nikki, take it away. 140 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,100 Winnie: So you 141 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:10,120 Nicky: have Malika Sherwatt as our leading lady 142 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,640 Nicky: who gets no respect from anyone in the movie. 143 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,540 Nicky: That's not funny. 144 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: Anyways. 145 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: It was the best part. 146 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:22,700 Nicky: She plays this lonely housewife who... 147 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:24,800 Nicky: She has a husband and a kid, a son. 148 00:06:24,819 --> 00:06:32,539 Nicky: and i guess her husband who's like a workaholic moves to bangkok thailand and you know because 149 00:06:32,659 --> 00:06:39,520 Nicky: she's such a housewife uh she feels quite lonely and with her needs unmet which i gotta add like 150 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:44,300 Nicky: if you know as an indian woman in thailand i think you can find friends let's be honest 151 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:46,159 Adam: Well, that's what... 152 00:06:46,159 --> 00:06:49,120 Adam: Wait, so you're saying she should have just been cheating on her husband 153 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,620 Winnie: the whole time? 154 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:49,819 Winnie: No, 155 00:06:49,819 --> 00:06:52,400 Adam: I mean, she can have a social life. 156 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:53,379 Adam: But 157 00:06:53,379 --> 00:07:00,240 Winnie: her husband is also portrayed as this man who is so emotionally unavailable, cold, stoic, doesn't even want to converse with her. 158 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,039 Winnie: So kind of like you can see why the loneliness is such an important... 159 00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:06,740 Winnie: point of the movie plot 160 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:07,900 Winnie: that like drives her 161 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:08,700 Winnie: to do all these things 162 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:09,700 Winnie: that she does later on 163 00:07:09,980 --> 00:07:10,940 Khilli: I think also 164 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:12,380 Khilli: the Bangkok plays a role 165 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,280 Khilli: for her being isolated 166 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:14,580 Khilli: I mean 167 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Khilli: so 168 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:16,740 Khilli: they didn't dwell 169 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Khilli: in the fact that 170 00:07:17,660 --> 00:07:18,900 Khilli: there is a Indian community 171 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:19,640 Khilli: here already 172 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,380 Khilli: like you know 173 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:22,480 Khilli: who lives there for a long time and stuff like that. 174 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,420 Khilli: But I think they just wanted to show that she's in a foreign land 175 00:07:26,450 --> 00:07:27,980 Khilli: where she cannot make friends easily. 176 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,260 Khilli: But also, this kind of talks about this kind of toxic family value 177 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:35,820 Khilli: of this kind of families, like this rich, upper caste 178 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: Indian families 179 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,820 Khilli: that the wives is not supporting. 180 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:40,760 Khilli: to go out that often 181 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,860 Speaker 5: oh yeah i can see that even 182 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:43,920 Khilli: if you are in a moreover if you're in a foreign 183 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:49,800 Khilli: land you're just supposed to so she she says that you know as one somewhere in the film i remember 184 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,700 Khilli: that she says like oh this is my boundary like i cannot go beyond 185 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:57,260 Winnie: that she has a part-time job 186 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Winnie: right right i don't see any elements of like her being trapped and not being allowed to do things 187 00:08:01,930 --> 00:08:06,100 Winnie: i think she is very much responsible for they have a son together kabir 188 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,500 Winnie: and, well, not really her son, 189 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:10,760 Winnie: but she's very much responsible for taking care of him, 190 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:11,560 Winnie: picking up from school, 191 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Winnie: and her husband doesn't really help her much with that. 192 00:08:14,110 --> 00:08:14,340 Winnie: And even 193 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:15,020 Speaker 5: though they live in this 194 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:15,740 Winnie: lavish villa, 195 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Winnie: somehow she doesn't have any help, 196 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,940 Winnie: like a nanny or anything. 197 00:08:19,190 --> 00:08:22,080 Winnie: So it seems like her whole life revolves around the family 198 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Winnie: and the son, basically. 199 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Winnie: Well, 200 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,380 Adam: let's talk, too. 201 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Adam: So what's the family situation? 202 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:27,960 Nicky: Why is 203 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Winnie: it 204 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Adam: not her son? 205 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,800 Nicky: Yeah, so later in the movie, we find out that... 206 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:38,099 Nicky: her husband actually was married to her sister, Sonia. 207 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,339 Adam: Everyone in this movie has a name that starts with S. 208 00:08:41,339 --> 00:08:43,440 Adam: So it's very confusing for us and you, the listener. 209 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:44,000 Adam: So the leading 210 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,180 Nicky: lady is named Simran, 211 00:08:45,459 --> 00:08:49,600 Nicky: which is also coincidentally a common Thai-Indian name, 212 00:08:49,779 --> 00:08:50,360 Nicky: in my opinion. 213 00:08:50,740 --> 00:08:51,600 Winnie: Common Punjabi name. 214 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:55,279 Nicky: So apparently, like... 215 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,540 Nicky: I'm a little hazy on the backstory, but she sent her sister off somewhere, and then she never returned. 216 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:08,700 Nicky: And so she took responsibility for their child. 217 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Nicky: Well, 218 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Winnie: I think it's given that she bought her sister a plane ticket, and I assume there was an accident or something, right? 219 00:09:14,780 --> 00:09:16,640 Winnie: So her sister is dead, basically. 220 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:16,740 Winnie: I think 221 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 5: the plane crashed. 222 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:20,920 Winnie: Right. They didn't really get into it, but you kind of tell that her sister is dead. 223 00:09:21,139 --> 00:09:23,220 Winnie: The sister is actually one of the 9-11 hydrogers. 224 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,660 Nicky: So then she apparently... 225 00:09:26,029 --> 00:09:31,980 Nicky: Okay, I was going to say steal, but assumes the wife role of the family. 226 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,819 Nicky: Which I want to ask, Winnie, is that something you want to do? 227 00:09:34,850 --> 00:09:35,380 Nicky: Like save your 228 00:09:35,380 --> 00:09:35,660 Winnie: sister? 229 00:09:36,019 --> 00:09:39,000 Winnie: Absolutely, right? Self-sacrificing, that's what makes a woman nice. 230 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:39,940 Speaker 5: It's 231 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:41,100 Winnie: the epitome of a good woman. 232 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:42,199 Winnie: I have a question about 233 00:09:42,199 --> 00:09:42,800 Adam: this, Kili. 234 00:09:43,130 --> 00:09:44,420 Adam: If a woman... 235 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:46,600 Adam: has a boyfriend 236 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:49,420 Adam: and then her sister dies 237 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,839 Adam: and leaves her kid and her husband. 238 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:54,259 Adam: Does the woman have to leave her boyfriend 239 00:09:54,620 --> 00:09:55,220 Adam: for this husband? 240 00:09:56,339 --> 00:09:56,920 Adam: I'm not a woman. 241 00:09:56,980 --> 00:09:58,060 Winnie: You don't have to do anything. 242 00:09:58,279 --> 00:09:59,639 Winnie: There's no codified rules. 243 00:10:00,199 --> 00:10:01,819 Winnie: It's just how much responsibility 244 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,440 Winnie: and obligation you feel as a woman 245 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:14,579 Winnie: to... 246 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,260 Winnie: put the betterment of a child ahead of you. 247 00:10:06,260 --> 00:10:09,680 Adam: But the child doesn't need her to fuck the husband to take care of him. 248 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:10,240 Adam: But 249 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Winnie: if you want a nuclear family, 250 00:10:12,019 --> 00:10:13,720 Winnie: which most Indian families would strive towards, 251 00:10:14,220 --> 00:10:17,600 Winnie: then you would want to preserve the family unit as such. 252 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,560 Nicky: Preserving the family unit is a big theme in this movie. 253 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:23,140 Nicky: Exactly. 254 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:24,320 Nicky: It's a very huge 255 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Adam: theme. 256 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:27,220 Adam: So the reason, Winnie, I said, 257 00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:29,760 Adam: the politics, I think, are actually like, all right, 258 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:31,220 Adam: is they give... 259 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,500 Adam: every leniency to this woman. 260 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,300 Adam: Like, I feel like if this was an American film, 261 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:36,260 Adam: it would be like, this bitch. 262 00:10:36,459 --> 00:10:36,580 Adam: What 263 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:37,279 Winnie: are you talking about? 264 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Winnie: You kind of see how her actions lead 265 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:41,080 Winnie: to such horrible consequences, 266 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:43,380 Winnie: like near imprisonment, murder. 267 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:44,940 Winnie: But they excuse her completely. 268 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,740 Adam: Even the officer is like, 269 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,820 Adam: I don't blame you at all. 270 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,420 Adam: Like, and the husband's like, you're right. 271 00:10:51,620 --> 00:10:52,120 Adam: It's my fault. 272 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,780 Adam: It's my fault. 273 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Adam: Her 274 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,460 Winnie: husband beats her at one point. 275 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Winnie: I feel like this movie, you see two sides. 276 00:10:57,290 --> 00:10:58,400 Winnie: You see her, her desire. 277 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:00,140 Winnie: She's driving towards that. 278 00:11:00,140 --> 00:11:03,560 Winnie: But you definitely see the consequences and how she's punished for it. 279 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:04,280 Winnie: But they 280 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Adam: make the guys look bad. 281 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: Yes. 282 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Adam: The movie is saying 283 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,260 Speaker 5: this woman 284 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:10,500 Adam: is like kind of faultless and these guys 285 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:11,180 Speaker 5: are all bad 286 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:12,240 Adam: and she is fine. 287 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:14,380 Adam: And like her desires are like valid. 288 00:11:14,980 --> 00:11:17,959 Adam: And like because of the situation she was in, 289 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:19,320 Adam: like it's very forgiving of her. 290 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:19,600 Adam: I 291 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,019 Winnie: think because the guy that she ended up having an affair with 292 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Winnie: was so extreme in his actions 293 00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:26,200 Winnie: and it led to like, you know, like stalking and murder. 294 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:28,839 Winnie: Now it kind of almost is a warning sign to women. 295 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,740 Winnie: Like, hey, you know, even if you're lonely, 296 00:11:30,830 --> 00:11:32,200 Winnie: if your husband's not emotionally available, 297 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,700 Winnie: this is what could happen 298 00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:35,180 Winnie: if you go and pursue something 299 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,940 Winnie: that is more fiery and passionate. 300 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:38,640 Winnie: It's going to blow up in this way. 301 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Winnie: So I think it serves as a warning sign of it's not worth it. 302 00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:42,920 Nicky: You have a scene where her like, 303 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,380 Nicky: Work colleague warns her of that. 304 00:11:45,660 --> 00:11:45,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 305 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Nicky: That 306 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,380 Adam: work colleague is so funny. 307 00:11:47,459 --> 00:11:49,300 Adam: She's like, I'm a veteran cheater. 308 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:52,459 Adam: And let me tell you why I don't think this is a good idea. 309 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:02,019 Khilli: I think it's a cautionary tale, but not vilifying her for, like, going, having sex with someone who is not her husband. 310 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,699 Khilli: Like, she's not... 311 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:09,100 Khilli: vilified for that but he's like oh poor woman don't do that please it's it's it's it's gonna 312 00:12:09,150 --> 00:12:11,160 Khilli: get worse kind of cautionary tale and 313 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,380 Winnie: i think the plot of like that being her sister's kid and her 314 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,860 Winnie: entering this marriage more as a self-sacrificing thing than out of love kind of helps vilify her 315 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,700 Winnie: less you know like it takes away some of the onus on her actions of 316 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: she's already doing 317 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:23,900 Winnie: she's 318 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,100 Winnie: already sacrificing so like she's just trying to find a bit of happiness now 319 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,519 Winnie: You see her in less of a nasty wife 320 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:30,639 Khilli: mode, 321 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:30,800 Winnie: right? 322 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:32,880 Winnie: And more of just a woman who's trying to have it all, 323 00:12:33,019 --> 00:12:33,980 Winnie: who's trying to be a good mother, 324 00:12:34,579 --> 00:12:35,860 Winnie: but still wants to be happy 325 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,579 Winnie: and doesn't want to subscribe to a lonely, 326 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,660 Winnie: emotionally cold husband, which is fair. 327 00:12:41,139 --> 00:12:42,019 Nicky: All that being said, 328 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:44,120 Nicky: the movie begins with her being chased 329 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,639 Nicky: through the business district, 330 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,220 Nicky: Chong Loon Si. 331 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:47,940 Speaker 5: Chong Loon Si, yes. 332 00:12:47,959 --> 00:12:49,420 Speaker 5: That's where me and Winnie... 333 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,660 Nicky: our work is you i used to work 334 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 5: there but 335 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,340 Nicky: you get to see like do 336 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 5: sitani in 337 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,660 Nicky: its uh original glory 338 00:12:55,660 --> 00:12:59,020 Nicky: which i thought was very interesting anyway that doesn't matter she's being chased through 339 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:07,260 Nicky: by a bunch of thai policemen whose whose chief is a an indian man like i'm gonna have to say it man 340 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:09,440 Nicky: it's no way possible it's like 341 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,839 Nicky: It's like a Thai man saying that Wakanda can't be real. 342 00:13:14,199 --> 00:13:15,139 Winnie: I was just kidding. 343 00:13:16,199 --> 00:13:17,740 Winnie: I disagree on this. 344 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:18,940 Winnie: He's Thai Indian. 345 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:22,639 Winnie: I think it's interesting that they portrayed this man as a Thai Indian character. 346 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Nicky: Yeah, but let's be honest. 347 00:13:24,529 --> 00:13:26,980 Nicky: When was the last time you've seen a police chief? 348 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Winnie: I think we have Thai Indian governor now. 349 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:33,380 Winnie: So like Thai Indians are just entering politics, 350 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:34,899 Winnie: but definitely not on the police level. 351 00:13:35,319 --> 00:13:39,819 Adam: This does the same thing as Dostana where like they live in Indian world in 352 00:13:39,959 --> 00:13:40,480 Adam: another country. 353 00:13:41,079 --> 00:13:41,259 Speaker 5: Yes. 354 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,380 Adam: Like they only interact with other Indians. 355 00:13:43,829 --> 00:13:46,339 Adam: Like the police is for some reason Indian and like, 356 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Adam: They live in that bubble. 357 00:13:48,210 --> 00:13:50,380 Winnie: But you know this actor who plays the police chief, 358 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,540 Winnie: he's just an Indian man, Indian actor, right? 359 00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:55,420 Winnie: But in the movie, they portray him as Sikh, as Namdari specifically. 360 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:58,760 Winnie: So he's wearing the white, what do you call it? 361 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,220 Winnie: Patka. I don't know what the term is. 362 00:14:00,220 --> 00:14:01,960 Winnie: It's kind of like white Patka turban. 363 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Winnie: So he's portrayed as a Namdari because that is very much prominent 364 00:14:06,490 --> 00:14:07,680 Winnie: in the Thai Indian community out here. 365 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,860 Winnie: There's all Sikhs, there's Namdari. 366 00:14:08,980 --> 00:14:13,100 Winnie: So I think they tried to make it a little bit more feasible in that way. 367 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:29,579 Khilli: Yeah, that Indian world thing, like in a foreign land, it's getting really less day by day as subtitling is like more prevalent and more accessible to people. But back in the day, I think we were discussing during, what was that? 368 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:31,120 Khilli: Dostana right 369 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:31,760 Khilli: That is 370 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:32,800 Khilli: It's mostly because 371 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:34,000 Khilli: Like they don't want to include 372 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,020 Khilli: Like other languages 373 00:14:35,180 --> 00:14:35,920 Khilli: Apart from Hindi 374 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:36,600 Khilli: At all 375 00:14:36,860 --> 00:14:37,360 Khilli: In the film 376 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:37,680 Khilli: Like 377 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: There are 378 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,420 Khilli: like few dialogues here 379 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,460 Khilli: Like when he's 380 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:41,500 Khilli: Explaining something 381 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,660 Khilli: To the police chief 382 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Khilli: At the end 383 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:44,140 Khilli: That he says in English 384 00:14:44,420 --> 00:14:45,340 Khilli: But otherwise like yeah 385 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,380 Khilli: So keep all 386 00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:47,500 Khilli: Every dialogue in Hindi 387 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Khilli: Yeah 388 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Khilli: You have to bring 389 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,180 Khilli: Like Indian characters here 390 00:14:59,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Adam: Yeah 391 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,540 Khilli: I think that's the reason. 392 00:14:52,980 --> 00:14:54,800 Adam: Yeah, they all live in Bangkok, but there's really 393 00:14:55,459 --> 00:14:57,140 Adam: no reason. They don't use 394 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,100 Adam: the setting or anything. 395 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,260 Speaker 5: It could have 396 00:14:59,260 --> 00:14:59,899 Adam: been in India. 397 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:01,459 Adam: Yeah, 398 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:03,200 Nicky: so she's chased by a bunch of policemen 399 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Nicky: and then they just bring her into 400 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,180 Nicky: interrogation because she's been accused 401 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:09,080 Nicky: of murder and 402 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,500 Nicky: the title. 403 00:15:10,149 --> 00:15:10,860 Speaker 5: Dun, dun, dun. 404 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:12,680 Nicky: And, you know, 405 00:15:12,829 --> 00:15:13,139 Nicky: I guess 406 00:15:13,529 --> 00:15:13,800 Nicky: the whole, 407 00:15:14,060 --> 00:15:15,000 Nicky: the part of the whole movie 408 00:15:15,130 --> 00:15:15,699 Nicky: is told in, 409 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:16,959 Nicky: like 90% of the movie 410 00:15:17,060 --> 00:15:18,500 Nicky: is told in through flashbacks. 411 00:15:18,980 --> 00:15:19,839 Adam: False flashbacks. 412 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,060 Adam: False 413 00:15:20,060 --> 00:15:20,819 Nicky: flashbacks. 414 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:21,300 Nicky: Like, 415 00:15:21,370 --> 00:15:22,220 Nicky: we get to see 416 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,199 Nicky: from her point of, 417 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:23,740 Nicky: from, 418 00:15:24,060 --> 00:15:24,779 Nicky: from Simran's 419 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:25,380 Nicky: point of view, 420 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:32,340 Nicky: so yeah she has husband son and then one day on during a rainy day she just happens to meet this 421 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:39,180 Nicky: man like there's like you get to see this magical connection and i'll be i'll also say that street 422 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:43,900 Nicky: is not bangkok i am like 90 sure it's patia 423 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:45,220 Speaker 5: where the where 424 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:49,560 Nicky: where so like this man that she meets it's sunny and at first we're not so clear 425 00:15:49,819 --> 00:15:54,699 Nicky: who it is like it's just they just have this like magical connection and the first thing he says like 426 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:56,040 Nicky: do you want to come up to my place 427 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,579 Adam: i was so blown away i was like there's no way she says yes this 428 00:15:59,579 --> 00:16:03,899 Adam: is crazy they meet like on the street in front of a car he's like standing there in the rain staring 429 00:16:03,899 --> 00:16:08,360 Adam: at her the car is like honking because he won't get the fuck out of the way and he's like blocking 430 00:16:08,699 --> 00:16:12,699 Adam: traffic and then he's like hey it's raining come to my room and she's like no and then she goes and i'm 431 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:14,600 Adam: Who the fuck is this person? 432 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,940 Nicky: Yeah, like she just goes up to his room 433 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Nicky: and it's like a very like creepy, dingy ass hallway. 434 00:16:21,579 --> 00:16:22,639 Nicky: And then like she goes inside 435 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:27,380 Nicky: and like he asked her to like go change and everything. 436 00:16:42,459 --> 00:16:42,579 Nicky: Yeah. 437 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Nicky: And then one of the things that gets really confusing from the start is like she was she was asking him questions like how long have you been here and or whatever. 438 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:42,860 Nicky: And then in the first of many instances in this movie, he just yells at her like, why don't you just ask me how long I've been in jail? 439 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,860 Nicky: And it's like, you know, I don't really know what that was. At first, I was a little taken aback. 440 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,880 Nicky: Like, why is this stranger like berating her for something that she should have known or something? 441 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Nicky: But then we find out that this guy was like her ex-boyfriend. 442 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:01,600 Nicky: So it's like Sunny is her ex-boyfriend in college, I'm assuming. 443 00:17:01,870 --> 00:17:07,120 Nicky: And apparently in the past, he was like beating people up because they were assaulting her. 444 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:10,199 Nicky: And he was like, I don't like it when people are touching you. 445 00:17:10,670 --> 00:17:14,600 Nicky: And then before like the police take him away, he was saying like, oh, I love you. 446 00:17:14,740 --> 00:17:15,920 Nicky: But she never says I love you back. 447 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,660 Nicky: So yeah, he ends up in jail. 448 00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:18,420 Nicky: He's like a 449 00:17:18,420 --> 00:17:19,620 Adam: creepy incel in college. 450 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,200 Adam: He's very controlling. 451 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:22,900 Adam: Are they going out? 452 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,440 Adam: They are going out. 453 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:25,620 Khilli: They have like, yeah. 454 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,060 Khilli: He's not incel. 455 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:27,860 Khilli: He's just like a positive. 456 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,980 Khilli: He's talking a lot actually. 457 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:29,400 Khilli: Yeah, 458 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:29,800 Adam: my bad. 459 00:17:30,020 --> 00:17:30,240 Adam: Yeah. 460 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,340 Adam: He's just very jealous. 461 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:32,340 Adam: Some guy assaults her. 462 00:17:32,350 --> 00:17:33,080 Adam: He protects her. 463 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,540 Adam: beats her too much 464 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:35,920 Khilli: he was in the cell 465 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,920 Winnie: an incel in the cell 466 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:42,060 Nicky: so yeah they reconnect 467 00:17:42,620 --> 00:17:43,420 Nicky: and then you know 468 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,880 Nicky: you get this hint that 469 00:17:46,020 --> 00:17:47,780 Nicky: there's a spark going on 470 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:49,720 Nicky: and she goes back home 471 00:17:49,780 --> 00:17:52,560 Nicky: and then we learn that her husband's a jerkwad 472 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:54,060 Nicky: he's like this guy 473 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,080 Nicky: who never pays attention 474 00:17:56,100 --> 00:17:58,320 Nicky: she was telling him she's met an old friend 475 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,440 Nicky: and he didn't give a shit 476 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:01,600 Nicky: he has to look for some stupid ass file 477 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:03,380 Adam: or whatever 478 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,580 Adam: goddamn folder i need the content 479 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:09,040 Nicky: folder and then like he was like um he calls her her name by 480 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:15,200 Nicky: mistake he calls her sonia instead of simran and it's not at first to us it's not it's unclear why 481 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:18,100 Nicky: what that name means but that's the name of her sister as we've 482 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:19,240 Adam: mentioned and 483 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Nicky: yeah you get to see 484 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Nicky: the the whole their whole relationship problems right 485 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,180 Adam: and then and one important part we also find 486 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,280 Adam: sonny is in bangkok 487 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,200 Adam: to DJ 488 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,240 Winnie: At a club called Moonlight 489 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:31,800 Winnie: Moonlight! I 490 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Nicky: was like, I don't remember 491 00:18:33,180 --> 00:18:34,820 Nicky: I remember a club 492 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:35,740 Adam: called Moonlight 493 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Adam: He says this is the club where I compose my songs 494 00:18:39,060 --> 00:18:39,140 Speaker 5: So 495 00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:42,820 Adam: we're supposed to believe he like makes songs and then plays them 496 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:45,060 Adam: But he does stay in the nicest apartment I've ever seen 497 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: Like the 498 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,260 Adam: building's dingy but he's like in a two level loft and 499 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: stuff 500 00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 5: For 501 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,300 Adam: this club no one's ever heard of and like they brought him all the way from India 502 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:56,780 Winnie: Also, what's interesting is that he said he was out of jail a year and a half 503 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:57,200 Adam: ago, 504 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:57,580 Winnie: right? 505 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Winnie: And he didn't contact Simran. 506 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:00,960 Winnie: Not a year and a half ago. 507 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Adam: He was only in jail for a year and a half. 508 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:03,940 Adam: So, like, 509 00:19:04,220 --> 00:19:04,520 Winnie: that's why 510 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:04,700 Speaker 5: it's 511 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:05,220 Adam: even weirder. 512 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,540 Adam: He wasn't even there for God for that long, and she should have known he was out. 513 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Adam: But she just... 514 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,260 Adam: you know, 515 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120 Adam: after her sister brings down the trade center, 516 00:19:14,170 --> 00:19:15,100 Adam: she marries the husband. 517 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:15,840 Adam: And then, 518 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,160 Adam: you know, 519 00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:16,700 Adam: really quickly, 520 00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:17,200 Adam: I guess. 521 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:19,860 Khilli: I think that happens to the college romance. 522 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,340 Khilli: Like, 523 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Khilli: after you graduate from there, 524 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:22,980 Khilli: you don't, 525 00:19:23,230 --> 00:19:23,340 Khilli: like, 526 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:24,160 Khilli: keep in touch or 527 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:24,680 Adam: something like that. 528 00:19:24,810 --> 00:19:25,360 Adam: The guy that, 529 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:25,480 Adam: like, 530 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:26,760 Adam: your ex-boyfriend that went to jail, 531 00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:27,720 Adam: for being, 532 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:30,460 Adam: For trying to protect you, you think you know when he would come out or something? 533 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:34,660 Khilli: Yeah, that's the only scene that this Simran committed. 534 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,179 Khilli: Not keeping 535 00:19:36,179 --> 00:19:38,340 Khilli: in touch with her estranged wife. 536 00:19:38,340 --> 00:19:38,580 Khilli: Keep in 537 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:38,820 Khilli: touch 538 00:19:38,820 --> 00:19:40,340 Khilli: with your exes that go to jail. 539 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:41,340 Winnie: Yes. 540 00:19:41,340 --> 00:19:43,980 Winnie: And then go to their apartments after bumping into them. 541 00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:45,140 Khilli: Instantly. 542 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:45,740 Khilli: Instantly. 543 00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:46,220 Winnie: and 544 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:48,540 Adam: we can all agree he went to Bangkok for her 545 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Adam: right 546 00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:52,260 Winnie: I feel like he was living there 547 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:54,120 Winnie: he didn't reach out they just bumped into each other 548 00:19:54,190 --> 00:19:55,020 Adam: which also questions 549 00:19:55,020 --> 00:19:56,140 Winnie: how obsessed he is 550 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Winnie: actually about her it seems to just start 551 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Winnie: when they meet again 552 00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:00,020 Speaker 5: I feel 553 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:01,720 Adam: like he specifically moved to Bangkok 554 00:20:01,770 --> 00:20:02,620 Adam: because he knew she was there 555 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:02,860 Adam: no 556 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:05,220 Winnie: because he gave her the choice of coming 557 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Winnie: into his apartment 558 00:20:07,010 --> 00:20:09,160 Winnie: if she just turned around and didn't 559 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:11,220 Winnie: follow him the first day 560 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,120 Winnie: I don't think he would have kept pursuing her 561 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:14,020 Winnie: I don't plan that 562 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:15,720 Khilli: he knows her 563 00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:16,680 Khilli: but 564 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:17,500 Khilli: but honestly 565 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:18,360 Khilli: like how long 566 00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:18,820 Khilli: did he say 567 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:19,320 Khilli: that he was 568 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:19,820 Khilli: working in 569 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:20,080 Khilli: Bangkok 570 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,140 Khilli: a couple years 571 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,020 Adam: yeah so 572 00:20:22,020 --> 00:20:22,300 Khilli: why 573 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:23,080 Khilli: didn't he like 574 00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:24,940 Khilli: like make a 575 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:25,280 Khilli: move 576 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:25,680 Khilli: people 577 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Khilli: he 578 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Adam: was waiting 579 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Adam: on that street 580 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Adam: for her to 581 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:28,100 Khilli: come for years 582 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:30,400 Adam: he was just 583 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,980 Adam: Standing there in the rain for years until she finally saw her. 584 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Adam: Then he ran into her. 585 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:37,020 Adam: His plan came in motion. 586 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:38,320 Adam: It had to be in front of his apartment. 587 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:38,820 Adam: Keeping 588 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:40,960 Khilli: extra warm clothes at home. 589 00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:41,840 Adam: He had 590 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,300 Winnie: the 591 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:43,920 Nicky: script memorized. 592 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,740 Nicky: Do you want to come back up to my place? 593 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:46,360 Winnie: I'll just say 594 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:47,940 Nicky: nothing and stare at her. 595 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,260 Winnie: And he's a bit of a womanizer too, right? 596 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,260 Winnie: Simran is not the only woman in his life. 597 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:55,540 Nicky: That's a twist that 598 00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:56,460 Winnie: we'll find out later. 599 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Nicky: But yes, they... 600 00:20:58,539 --> 00:21:05,740 Nicky: We know Simran's situation, so then she sparks up an affair with Sunny. 601 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,740 Nicky: You get these long extended scenes where they're just having fun. 602 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,380 Nicky: At one point, he rolls up in his motorcycle. 603 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:16,200 Nicky: I think it's Siam 604 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,500 Nicky: like suriyam area he rolls up on the footpath like a boss and then like she gets on and i think it's 605 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:28,600 Nicky: so funny in that scene because you see all these thai bystanders watching watching this indian man 606 00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:30,100 Nicky: roll up i don't know i think that's pretty funny 607 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:32,080 Adam: it has the montage where they're like having sex 608 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:37,019 Adam: in different places and they keep having sex outside so they'll like be on like a which is 609 00:21:37,179 --> 00:21:40,539 Adam: crazy because especially bangkok like if you go on a rooftop with 610 00:21:40,539 --> 00:21:41,100 Speaker 5: just the sun 611 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:42,600 Adam: out like you will die 612 00:21:42,620 --> 00:21:44,580 Adam: Like that is so uncomfortable and so hot. 613 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:48,120 Adam: But like, and they're like where all the air cons are stationed outside. 614 00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:50,940 Adam: So it's like double hot because it's all blowing on you. 615 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:53,559 Adam: And they're like fucking out there in the hot daylight. 616 00:21:54,179 --> 00:21:59,740 Adam: They're having sex like one level above the cars on like a balcony with like no barrier. 617 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:02,160 Adam: And if you're on like the BTS level, you can just see two 618 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,799 Khilli: people kind of hanging out. 619 00:22:04,059 --> 00:22:06,039 Khilli: They want to smell their sweaty armpits. 620 00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:08,700 Nicky: I was just saying they have a long scene 621 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:10,740 Adam: where they smell each other's sweaty armpits. 622 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,100 Adam: They go to a, like, a Patea hotel for days, even though, like, she only sees him, like, 623 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,440 Adam: when her kid's in school somehow. 624 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:18,240 Adam: Yeah. 625 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,300 Nicky: They were up on, like, these water towers on the... 626 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,780 Nicky: on the roof of a building and it was so funny when i saw that scene i was reading the news just 627 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Nicky: just just earlier this week and apparently a man went missing and they thought the police found him 628 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:38,180 Nicky: inside a water tower and all i could think about is that if they were making out what if there was 629 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:39,580 Nicky: a body there i don't know that's all 630 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:40,160 Adam: my goodness 631 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Nicky: well it's dark that's when 632 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,120 Adam: dark 633 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: you 634 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Adam: guys see that type of matter about that woman that did that too remember like 635 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,300 Speaker 5: there's like 636 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:47,600 Nicky: the 637 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:47,940 Nicky: security 638 00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:49,040 Adam: footage of her in the elevator 639 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,820 Nicky: she looks crazy 640 00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:50,340 Adam: and then 641 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,700 Adam: They found her in the water tank. 642 00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:52,740 Adam: No one could figure it out. 643 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,700 Nicky: It was like a cold case, right? 644 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,920 Nicky: Like no one figured 645 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 5: it out. 646 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 647 00:22:56,650 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: That's a creepy story. 648 00:22:57,620 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: It's super 649 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,300 Adam: creepy, but it turns out she just fell in it. 650 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:02,720 Adam: But she has something like a psychotic break. 651 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,940 Khilli: Didn't in Hangover, also the guy was on the rooftop near the water tank or somewhere for the whole time. 652 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,440 Khilli: He woke up there on the rooftop. 653 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Khilli: Yeah, for the whole time they were looking for him. 654 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:12,620 Khilli: Just to say, 655 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:13,440 Winnie: that's not too weird. 656 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Winnie: Like in my high school, we lived next to a building that had a... 657 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:20,700 Winnie: rooftop that a lot of students went to after school to do stuff with their 658 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:21,700 Adam: you know their 659 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:24,920 Adam: boyfriend and girlfriend sonny lives indoors you guys had to do that 660 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,260 Winnie: right 661 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:26,040 Adam: right he 662 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,000 Winnie: he was hot as 663 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,580 Adam: hell when he tell me from first-hand experience how bad was 664 00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:30,920 Winnie: when you're when you're like a horny 665 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:34,440 Winnie: teenager it doesn't really matter right but that's like your only option it's like 666 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,560 Adam: p.e day and you're 667 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,620 Adam: wearing your p.e. clothes and everyone's all smelly and stuff he 668 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:40,940 Khilli: wanted change of place change of 669 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,340 Khilli: seconds all the time i think 670 00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:44,900 Winnie: it adds to the erotic element like voyeurism it's 671 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,600 Winnie: And then you're climbing all the 672 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,380 Adam: way to this balcony 673 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,820 Adam: and you're drinking there and you have to climb all the way down 674 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:50,440 Adam: naked and shit. 675 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:53,140 Nicky: So while 676 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:54,600 Adam: all 677 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,860 Nicky: those moments were portrayed 678 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:57,800 Nicky: as romantic, there are some scenes 679 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,780 Nicky: that I just can't help but feel 680 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:01,200 Nicky: like it's super rapey. 681 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:03,260 Nicky: Like the belly button scene. 682 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Nicky: Well, no, 683 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:05,400 Adam: but that's not. 684 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:06,520 Adam: He's just going down on her. 685 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,500 Adam: And it's like the first time anyone's gone down on her and her belly 686 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,240 Nicky: is trembling. 687 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Nicky: Well, he keeps saying no. 688 00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,120 Nicky: And she was like, it's not 689 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:13,760 Adam: right, Sonny. 690 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Adam: It's not right. 691 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:16,940 Adam: But her belly is like shaking. 692 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,120 Adam: I've never seen anything like this. 693 00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:23,500 Adam: I've never seen a woman that excited by a guy just like being near her legs or something. 694 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:23,680 Adam: something 695 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:24,900 Adam: it's a really 696 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:25,600 Khilli: large belly 697 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:26,320 Khilli: when she says 698 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:26,900 Khilli: saying no 699 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:27,760 Khilli: it's her 700 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:28,660 Khilli: like the 701 00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:29,020 Khilli: culture 702 00:24:31,060 --> 00:24:31,720 Adam: tread carefully 703 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:33,220 Adam: yeah 704 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:34,180 Khilli: yeah 705 00:24:34,570 --> 00:24:34,840 Khilli: I mean 706 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:35,720 Khilli: we gradually 707 00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:36,540 Khilli: find out that 708 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:37,380 Khilli: Sunny is indeed 709 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,440 Khilli: very rapey 710 00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:38,800 Khilli: person 711 00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:53,480 Nicky: mm 712 00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:40,440 Khilli: after all 713 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:41,120 Khilli: but from the very 714 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:41,419 Winnie: beginning 715 00:24:41,539 --> 00:24:42,519 Winnie: you see that he's not 716 00:24:42,639 --> 00:24:43,760 Winnie: really respecting her boundaries 717 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,580 Winnie: because obviously 718 00:24:44,779 --> 00:24:45,620 Winnie: she still has feelings 719 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:46,620 Winnie: she's attracted to him 720 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:47,179 Winnie: and she says 721 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:47,940 Winnie: no it's not right 722 00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:49,000 Winnie: but he doesn't stop 723 00:24:49,159 --> 00:24:49,940 Winnie: he just keeps going 724 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:50,659 Winnie: and then physically 725 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:51,580 Winnie: she gives in right 726 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:52,600 Winnie: so it's already 727 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,159 Winnie: a disrespect 728 00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:53,740 Nicky: of boundaries 729 00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:54,659 Nicky: from the get go 730 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:55,159 Adam: yeah 731 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:56,059 Adam: but she comes back 732 00:24:56,820 --> 00:25:00,880 Nicky: I just want to interject with some cultural thing from my experience. 733 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,420 Nicky: Like, in Thai series, right, 734 00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:08,180 Nicky: they would always have this, like, relationship dynamic 735 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,440 Nicky: where the man would have his way with the woman, 736 00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:13,300 Nicky: and the woman would be like... 737 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:19,460 Nicky: It's basically raping, but as they get into it, she falls for him. 738 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:21,520 Nicky: It's like a common Thai 739 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,020 Speaker 5: series 740 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:24,140 Nicky: plotline, I guess. 741 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Nicky: I'm 742 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,720 Winnie: not sure if it's other cultures. 743 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,300 Winnie: They call it the slap and kiss phenomenon in Thailand. 744 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Nicky: It's very popular. 745 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,680 Nicky: This moment right here reminded me of that. 746 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:33,419 Nicky: I 747 00:25:33,419 --> 00:25:38,740 Khilli: think that has been a stereotype in Indian mainstream things as well. 748 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:46,740 Khilli: Where like, oh, so that's why this whole abusive rape case is also coming from. 749 00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:52,399 Khilli: Because the culture also portraits like that, that women's know is... 750 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,500 Khilli: Not no, they're just pushing you because that's what they're supposed to do. 751 00:25:57,060 --> 00:26:00,140 Khilli: But you have to find a way to get it done like 752 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 5: that. 753 00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:08,720 Khilli: And also like it puts an idea of a woman into man's head that like, okay, so women saying no means nothing. 754 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:10,780 Khilli: they want it but they're just shy 755 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 5: to have 756 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,260 Adam: it so 757 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:14,540 Khilli: that's the stereotype and they're also playing 758 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:15,160 Khilli: in the stereotype 759 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,500 Adam: just to be fair like that's harrison ford's entire career as well it's in 760 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,200 Adam: america too 761 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,220 Speaker 5: okay in 762 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:24,500 Adam: indiana jones and like in blade runner stuff he just like throws people 763 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960 Adam: like against the wall and makes out with them and then they like it 764 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 5: like so it's not like 765 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,160 Adam: america was 766 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,140 Adam: like great at this but um 767 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,400 Adam: again she's not traumatized she loves it and comes back and i'm not like excusing him but i'm just 768 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,360 Adam: saying like she does like sunny and likes having sex with 769 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,140 Speaker 5: him yeah she voluntarily 770 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:40,700 Adam: comes back all 771 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:40,980 Adam: the time 772 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:41,500 Speaker 5: the 773 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:45,940 Khilli: films gives her a lot of agency in that sense it's all 774 00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:47,720 Adam: her decisions like she decides 775 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,340 Adam: to go in the apartment she makes all these calls to keep visiting him and that's good like you know 776 00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:56,040 Adam: it's because they're acknowledging that she likes sex which i think is cool actually 777 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,380 Nicky: but what's not cool is when 778 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Winnie: by 779 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,020 Adam: the way Whitney do women like sex 780 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,120 Winnie: no no we 781 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:01,720 Adam: just yeah 782 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Nicky: completely unpleasurable 783 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,580 Winnie: because men don't know how to 784 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,780 Winnie: yeah what's 785 00:27:05,780 --> 00:27:06,500 Nicky: not cool though 786 00:27:06,580 --> 00:27:08,679 Nicky: is that eventually her son 787 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,520 Nicky: has a fever and then she decides 788 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:11,260 Nicky: it's always these 789 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:12,559 Adam: bitch kids in these movies 790 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,740 Nicky: yeah I love 791 00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:14,880 Adam: getting rid of the kids 792 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,740 Nicky: they're always sick 793 00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:16,580 Adam: and ruining relationships 794 00:27:17,179 --> 00:27:18,179 Nicky: as we all know we got they got 795 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,700 Nicky: she got to stay with the family stay for the kid 796 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,539 Nicky: right and then like you get this like 797 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,620 Nicky: moment where like Sunny calls her out and is like 798 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,580 Nicky: why aren't you here 799 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,180 Nicky: And then she said she has to be with her family. 800 00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:34,700 Nicky: And then he like, I don't know how to say this, but like he like gaslights her into thinking like, it's always about your husband and your son. 801 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:35,320 Nicky: What about me? 802 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:43,720 Nicky: And he like punches like, there's a scene where he like punches like the windowpane and then like a part of the windowpane comes down and he punches it again. 803 00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:44,920 Nicky: I don't know 804 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Adam: if you remember that. 805 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:46,820 Adam: That 806 00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:48,120 Khilli: was, that was amazing. 807 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:50,060 Speaker 5: He also 808 00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:50,780 Adam: said, he's like. 809 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,820 Adam: why can't i see you at least once every 810 00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:56,400 Winnie: 24 hours i'm like that's a lot and then he says i'm addicted 811 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Winnie: to you he literally says 812 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,940 Adam: 24 hours is a really like that's a lot that 813 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:03,080 Winnie: was quite a pivotal scene though 814 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,600 Winnie: because you see her face just completely fall when she has the phone right when i think that's 815 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Winnie: the realization that a lot of women have probably experienced at least once in their lifetimes 816 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 5: when 817 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,480 Winnie: they realize with a complete nutcase they just 818 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:20,980 Winnie: yeah 819 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,880 Adam: Like, oh, this is too far. 820 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:22,020 Winnie: Yeah, yeah, because I think she knew Sunny was very, you know, 821 00:28:22,169 --> 00:28:24,100 Winnie: but she probably didn't expect it to get to that level. 822 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:27,160 Winnie: And you see that realization dawn on her, and it's a very uncomfortable feeling. 823 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:27,880 Winnie: There's that 824 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,539 Adam: famous quote that men are afraid of women laughing at them 825 00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:34,299 Adam: and women are afraid of men killing them. 826 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,380 Adam: Yeah, touche, touche. 827 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,700 Adam: It sucks when you realize that every time... 828 00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:44,440 Nicky: And so because she can't go out and meet Sunny, what does Sunny do? 829 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:49,080 Nicky: Fucking pretends to be a bystander and then walks into their home, 830 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,559 Nicky: tells her husband that, hey, you know, we're friends. 831 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:56,179 Khilli: He befriends the 832 00:28:56,179 --> 00:28:58,019 Speaker 5: husband on the street and 833 00:28:58,019 --> 00:28:59,019 Khilli: comes back home. 834 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:02,059 Khilli: And yeah, and then saying, oh, nice to meet you. 835 00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:07,700 Khilli: Like, does that whole charade to Simran and... 836 00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:08,080 Khilli: And 837 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,419 Nicky: it was very uncomfortable because he was looking for the toilet. 838 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,659 Nicky: So the husband was like, all right, Simran, can you just take him to the toilet? 839 00:29:17,139 --> 00:29:19,679 Nicky: And then he fucking tries to eat her face. 840 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,679 Winnie: And it's like... 841 00:29:21,779 --> 00:29:23,580 Winnie: Yeah, we get another rapey scene. 842 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:29,600 Adam: Yeah, he takes her down to the maid bathroom and then tries to make out with her... 843 00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:38,980 Nicky: It's like a straight out of a Brazzers porn scene where like the unsuspecting cuck is like nearby and like they're 844 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:40,039 Adam: just about to do it. 845 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Adam: You know, he wanted to see them. 846 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Adam: He was disappointed when he came downstairs and they weren't making out. 847 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,900 Adam: He wanted to catch them doing that. 848 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Adam: But 849 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,440 Winnie: that's when you see like her agency kind of breaking down a little bit because that's probably the 850 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: first scene where 851 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,100 Winnie: she really doesn't want to. 852 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Winnie: Her husband is right up there. 853 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,220 Winnie: And she's just trying to push him off, but she has to give in also halfway through. 854 00:29:57,540 --> 00:29:59,100 Adam: I'm glad you 855 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,540 Nicky: realized that, Whitney, because at that very moment, I was like, this is not erotic. 856 00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:07,460 Nicky: They told me it was going to be an erotic film, but instead it was like all rapey and everything. 857 00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:08,980 Nicky: And I'm like, damn it. 858 00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:12,360 Nicky: I had tissues ready, but I can't do it, man. 859 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Winnie: Using tissues to wipe my 860 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,299 Nicky: tears instead now. 861 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,320 Adam: Just to be clear, it's worth the tears. 862 00:30:19,399 --> 00:30:19,580 Speaker 5: Yeah, 863 00:30:19,940 --> 00:30:21,000 Adam: you started getting angry. 864 00:30:21,399 --> 00:30:23,940 Adam: It's 90% rapey and 0% boobs. 865 00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:25,880 Adam: It's not erotic at all. 866 00:30:26,019 --> 00:30:26,380 Adam: One thing. 867 00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:36,500 Nicky: You know, you get that scene where, like, Simran's best friend, like, warns her, like, you know, hey, you know, cheating leads down a path of, like, unhappiness and yada, yada, yada. 868 00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:36,980 Nicky: She has 869 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:42,580 Adam: a co-worker that, like, cheats all the time, I guess, and has, like, deep experience cheating and is like, I know what you're doing. 870 00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:43,780 Adam: I've done it before. 871 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:44,820 Adam: It's not worth it. 872 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,679 Adam: Just get a vibrator. 873 00:30:47,260 --> 00:30:48,100 Nicky: so while that was happening 874 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Nicky: like her husband 875 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,080 Nicky: his name eludes me 876 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Nicky: Sudhir yeah 877 00:30:53,860 --> 00:30:55,520 Nicky: he hires a private investigator 878 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:57,760 Adam: he looks like a 879 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,540 Adam: like a racist cartoon of what would be on like a pizza box 880 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,720 Adam: he 881 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:01,940 Nicky: looks 882 00:31:01,940 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 5: like a racist 883 00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:04,100 Speaker 5: Italian stereotype 884 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Adam: he looks like the like Luigi 885 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,980 Adam: and Chuck E. Cheese with the big mustache 886 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,380 Adam: he's like an Indian Italian man 887 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:11,700 Nicky: so yeah 888 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:15,780 Nicky: so 889 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,860 Nicky: So he hires faux Italian man to investigate on whether, you know, Simran is cheating. 890 00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:25,960 Nicky: And then like you get this scene where like Simran has to drop her kid off at school. 891 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:32,660 Nicky: And while when she drops her kid off to school, like that's when Sunny comes in and then they have a moment together. 892 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:35,060 Nicky: And what I can only assume. 893 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:35,700 Nicky: Oh, yeah. 894 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,680 Nicky: He was like rubbing rubbing her leg with his like 895 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 5: stinky 896 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Nicky: ass sock. 897 00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:41,800 Nicky: This is very disgusting, man. 898 00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:47,040 Nicky: Anyway, he literally took Simran back to his place for, like, a sesh. 899 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:55,340 Nicky: And, like, in what has got to be, like, a bad parent of the year award, 900 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:58,640 Nicky: she realizes that, oh, shit, I gotta go pick up my kid at school. 901 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:01,260 Adam: They fuck, like, for, like, ten hours or 902 00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:01,640 Nicky: something. 903 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:02,420 Nicky: Because 904 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:05,800 Adam: she drops him off, so then they're fucking until he's, like... 905 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,020 Adam: three hours after school has passed yeah 906 00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,900 Nicky: yeah and that's when she realized oh my god you know 907 00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:16,740 Nicky: it's affecting my family you know my the consequences of she has this epiphany 908 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:18,380 Nicky: consequences of her actions lead to you know 909 00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:21,600 Adam: because for a woman you have to choose orgasm or family 910 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:21,820 Adam: you 911 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:23,720 Adam: Indian women, 912 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:24,100 Khilli: yeah. 913 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,160 Khilli: For the detective, 914 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Khilli: his photography skills are like impeccable. 915 00:32:29,980 --> 00:32:31,080 Khilli: Like the photo he takes, 916 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:33,780 Khilli: like where he was rubbing her legs under the table, 917 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,600 Khilli: that photo was like so good. 918 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:38,540 Khilli: Like, I'm joking. 919 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,160 Khilli: It's sarcastic. 920 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,500 Khilli: It would be cool, by the way, 921 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Khilli: if like you did like... 922 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,100 Adam: uh what's that pokemon snap but you're like detective pikachu trying to find pokemon cheating 923 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,300 Adam: on each other like 924 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,060 Speaker 5: they hire you 925 00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:53,620 Adam: as detective pikachu to like you know find if their spouse 926 00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:57,740 Adam: is cheating and stuff so like you just go around on the bows filming pokemon cheating on each other 927 00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:59,040 Adam: to send to them wearing 928 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,740 Nicky: stinky socks 929 00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:00,660 Adam: yeah so 930 00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:02,500 Nicky: anyway she realizes that you know i forgot to 931 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:06,260 Nicky: pick up my kid because i was too horny so she decides to like 932 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:07,560 Nicky: End things with Sunny. 933 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Nicky: And then what did she find? 934 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,340 Nicky: As Winnie mentioned earlier, 935 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:13,840 Nicky: she sees that Sunny has a girlfriend. 936 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:15,760 Nicky: Like twist. 937 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,900 Nicky: It's weird. 938 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,460 Nicky: It was a little left field, 939 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:21,840 Nicky: but I guess it's trying to drive the point home 940 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,320 Nicky: that he's a fucking scumbag. 941 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:25,640 Nicky: Is it his wife? 942 00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:27,300 Nicky: They say his girlfriend or 943 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:27,460 Adam: something. 944 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,540 Adam: Yeah, it's his wife. 945 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,140 Adam: Because he's like picking her up 946 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,340 Adam: and carrying her around and stuff, 947 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:32,800 Adam: and she knows everything about her. 948 00:33:33,420 --> 00:33:35,180 Adam: But I can't figure out if she lives with him or not. 949 00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:44,780 Khilli: I don't think she lives with him, but, like, they have a relationship where he actually shared the story of, like, him screwing this other Simran. 950 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,780 Khilli: So, she knows that's why, but, like, she loves him. 951 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,400 Khilli: He is just using her for... 952 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Khilli: something. 953 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:52,280 Winnie: Yeah, 954 00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:52,920 Winnie: and she knows 955 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,540 Winnie: that he's obsessed 956 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:53,980 Winnie: with Simran. 957 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:54,400 Khilli: Yeah. 958 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:56,060 Winnie: So that's a very 959 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,340 Nicky: interesting movie. 960 00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:58,360 Khilli: Yeah, 961 00:33:58,390 --> 00:33:59,000 Khilli: very interesting 962 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,000 Khilli: dynamic. 963 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:01,180 Nicky: And so, 964 00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:01,460 Nicky: like, 965 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:02,500 Nicky: when she finds that out, 966 00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:03,160 Nicky: she realizes, 967 00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:03,560 Nicky: oh, 968 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:04,000 Nicky: wow, 969 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,580 Nicky: you know, 970 00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:05,560 Nicky: she called, 971 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:06,180 Nicky: like, 972 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,160 Nicky: Simran blames herself 973 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,040 Nicky: that she's a whore 974 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:10,260 Nicky: even though the subtitles 975 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,060 Nicky: say slut. 976 00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:12,080 Nicky: Yeah. 977 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,840 Nicky: I don't know if you noticed that, but anyway 978 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,280 Nicky: And like, you know 979 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,240 Nicky: She wants to end with Sunny 980 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:19,940 Nicky: And then, what does Sunny do? 981 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:23,020 Nicky: He like, tries to have his way with her 982 00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:23,900 Nicky: In the kitchen 983 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,140 Nicky: And it was like the most uncomfortable scene 984 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,400 Nicky: But then you get this like, moment where she grabs a knife 985 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Nicky: And it is implied 986 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,220 Nicky: That she murders him 987 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,720 Khilli: That's what she said to the police 988 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:35,879 Nicky: investigator in 989 00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:36,679 Khilli: her... 990 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 5: Supposedly. 991 00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:41,179 Nicky: But then I guess we have this like another big plot twist 992 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:45,780 Nicky: that the police chief calls her out for lying 993 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,599 Nicky: because what they heard is that her husband murdered Sunny. 994 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,399 Nicky: And then we get to see... 995 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:56,700 Nicky: I'm assuming this is an intermission part. 996 00:34:57,109 --> 00:35:01,980 Nicky: But then we get to see that, yeah, Sudhir... 997 00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:03,780 Nicky: Sudiya murdered him 998 00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:07,040 Nicky: we learned that we get to see his point of view 999 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,480 Nicky: he basically knew 1000 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Nicky: he knew all along that 1001 00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:12,460 Nicky: Simran was cheating 1002 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:14,880 Nicky: and then he was trying to go to Bombay 1003 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:16,980 Nicky: to make sure that she had all the 1004 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,140 Nicky: free time in the world to do whatever she wants 1005 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,140 Nicky: and then the private investigator finds out 1006 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:21,580 Nicky: and everything 1007 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,220 Nicky: so we learn that she 1008 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,240 Nicky: with the knife 1009 00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:28,440 Nicky: I'm assuming she brings out the knife 1010 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,960 Nicky: but doesn't do anything 1011 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,560 Adam: with it 1012 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,520 Adam: I think the knife is the fake part 1013 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,280 Nicky: I just don't 1014 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,500 Adam: think she ever touched the knife 1015 00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:36,560 Nicky: but then we see her like disposing 1016 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,859 Nicky: of the knife I don't fucking know 1017 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,400 Adam: the movie doesn't make that much sense 1018 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,500 Adam: it's not very 1019 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:39,859 Speaker 5: clear 1020 00:35:39,859 --> 00:35:41,599 Nicky: but what is clear is that 1021 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,859 Nicky: she leaves Sunny's place 1022 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:45,240 Nicky: all shame 1023 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,640 Nicky: in a shame and that's when 1024 00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:49,400 Nicky: Sudhir goes into Sunny's place 1025 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:58,240 Nicky: and then they have like this confrontation and uh sunny in his most psychotic moment yet is like he 1026 00:35:58,339 --> 00:36:04,599 Nicky: taunts he taunts to dear about how like you know he fulfills all of simran's needs and points out 1027 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Nicky: that like you can you can smell his bed for her scent and in the most ultimate humiliation move he he 1028 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,260 Nicky: He keeps her panties in this box and throws it at his face. 1029 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:20,000 Nicky: Of course, that could break a man, right? 1030 00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:21,060 Adam: Well, no, yeah. 1031 00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:23,460 Adam: So we watched this all together to rewind. 1032 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:28,720 Adam: It's implied that she gives him her panties every single time they're together. 1033 00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:30,640 Adam: Or they're from 1034 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Khilli: the university. 1035 00:36:32,099 --> 00:36:33,039 Adam: No, no, no. 1036 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,440 Adam: He said she gives me her panties always. 1037 00:36:35,779 --> 00:36:37,020 Speaker 5: That's what the subtitles said. 1038 00:36:37,099 --> 00:36:37,900 Speaker 5: So he has 1039 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:40,160 Adam: a box full of her... 1040 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,140 Adam: So every single time she fucks him, 1041 00:36:42,279 --> 00:36:43,319 Adam: she's like, here's my panties. 1042 00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:46,579 Adam: And I guess that's expensive, I would think, too, 1043 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,059 Speaker 5: because that's 1044 00:36:47,059 --> 00:36:49,960 Adam: not cheap to buy new panties every single... 1045 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,220 Adam: Because women's panties are 1046 00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:51,500 Winnie: expensive. 1047 00:36:51,539 --> 00:36:53,619 Winnie: But maybe that's why he's living in such a nice apartment 1048 00:36:53,819 --> 00:36:54,859 Winnie: despite being only a DJ. 1049 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:56,440 Winnie: Maybe he's selling these panties on eBay, 1050 00:36:57,220 --> 00:36:57,359 Winnie: racking 1051 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: up quite a 1052 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,140 Winnie: bit of 1053 00:36:58,140 --> 00:36:58,460 Adam: fun. 1054 00:36:58,539 --> 00:37:00,319 Adam: There's a huge trash bag full of them at this point. 1055 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,580 Adam: So, like, I wouldn't be surprised if, like, that is paying his 1056 00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:03,800 Nicky: rent. 1057 00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:08,100 Nicky: So, yeah, he out, he murdered. 1058 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,320 Nicky: So, okay, it breaks a deer. 1059 00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:12,420 Nicky: And long story short, he murders him. 1060 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,400 Nicky: And it's like, man, I keep, I, Kili, I gotta admit, like, these, these fight scenes, man. 1061 00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:22,000 Nicky: In, I don't know what's up with Bollywood or Indian cinema, but, like. 1062 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,380 Nicky: Some of the choreography is just so 1063 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:24,860 Speaker 5: bad. 1064 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 5: It's 1065 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,980 Nicky: bad. 1066 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:26,900 Nicky: Like the action. 1067 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,100 Nicky: It's not convincing all the fun. 1068 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Nicky: And like Sudhir likes, 1069 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,280 Nicky: there's this move that Sudhir likes to do that. 1070 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,920 Nicky: We get to see like, 1071 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,900 Nicky: he likes to punch, 1072 00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:34,440 Nicky: uh, 1073 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:36,260 Nicky: sunny around the stomach. 1074 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:36,940 Speaker 5: There's 1075 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:37,220 Nicky: a lot. 1076 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Nicky: There's a lot of tummy shots. 1077 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:39,619 Nicky: I don't know. 1078 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:40,220 Nicky: Anyway. 1079 00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:47,619 Nicky: So the next thing, the next outrageous thing is that he wraps Sunny's body in a carpet. 1080 00:37:47,920 --> 00:38:03,260 Nicky: And then we get like this very hilarious scene where he drags the body out into the hallway and passes like a bunch of like bystanders who notices that the big roll of carpet he's dragging has left a shoe. 1081 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,280 Nicky: they ask him is this your shoe and he's like no so they just put 1082 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,460 Adam: the shoe 1083 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:20,440 Adam: imagine this the guy is dragging a carpet rolled up in the shape of a body and there's like feet 1084 00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:24,620 Adam: sticking out and there's one shoe that's on the ground and they ask if it's his shoe 1085 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,960 Adam: and he's wearing both shoes as he's dragging this carpet 1086 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,280 Nicky: and 1087 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,920 Adam: So they're like, oh, I guess it's not your third shoe. 1088 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:33,100 Adam: Oh, well, they just put it 1089 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:33,380 Nicky: there. 1090 00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:35,820 Nicky: And it doesn't stop there. 1091 00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:42,200 Nicky: He goes out onto the street and then drags the body on the street out in broad daylight. 1092 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,260 Nicky: Throughout Bangkok. 1093 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,660 Adam: He's just dragging a dead body through Bangkok. 1094 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:46,840 Nicky: I'm assuming it's Pattaya. 1095 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:47,940 Nicky: Maybe it's Norman Pattaya. 1096 00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:48,080 Nicky: I 1097 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 5: don't know. 1098 00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:51,520 Nicky: So he stops the body. 1099 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,040 Nicky: He gets help. 1100 00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:54,120 Nicky: They come and help him lift up the dead body. 1101 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,020 Nicky: Just another death. 1102 00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:58,680 Nicky: Some man fell off the building. 1103 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:07,560 Nicky: So he stops the body in the trunk and then buries the body near their home. 1104 00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:08,640 Nicky: Near his home. 1105 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,100 Nicky: Well, like a weird 1106 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,380 Adam: park forest thing. 1107 00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:10,780 Adam: Forest 1108 00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:11,080 Nicky: thing. 1109 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,640 Nicky: I don't remember. 1110 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,240 Nicky: I 1111 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,200 Adam: broke that in my notes. 1112 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,740 Adam: Is this Lupini Park where he's 1113 00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:17,980 Nicky: throwing the body? 1114 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,540 Nicky: You don't have a lot of big forested green space. 1115 00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:27,280 Adam: No. 1116 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,980 Adam: that's the Indian part 1117 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:24,560 Adam: they for sure 1118 00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:25,240 Adam: like probably filmed 1119 00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:25,680 Adam: that Indian 1120 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,060 Adam: like just 1121 00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:28,880 Nicky: so of course 1122 00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:29,540 Nicky: naturally that 1123 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:30,160 Nicky: that gets the 1124 00:39:30,329 --> 00:39:30,440 Nicky: police 1125 00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:31,339 Nicky: sorry 1126 00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:31,920 Adam: it's in like the 1127 00:39:32,099 --> 00:39:32,240 Adam: sand 1128 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:33,079 Adam: like the kid area 1129 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,940 Adam: like the sandbox 1130 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Adam: he's like 1131 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:36,040 Adam: he just buries 1132 00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:36,900 Adam: he like digs the 1133 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,579 Adam: hole in the sand 1134 00:39:37,579 --> 00:39:38,400 Adam: and buries his body 1135 00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:39,020 Adam: with all these kids 1136 00:39:39,140 --> 00:39:39,220 Adam: there 1137 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,839 Nicky: yeah 1138 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,319 Nicky: That's where his file's missing. 1139 00:39:43,099 --> 00:39:43,760 Nicky: Oh, I found it. 1140 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,740 Nicky: So that gets the police's attention. 1141 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:51,140 Nicky: And then, like, you know, they confronted Simran. 1142 00:39:51,260 --> 00:39:54,579 Nicky: Simran notices that, okay, maybe my husband has committed murder. 1143 00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:59,319 Nicky: And then, like, we get this, like, moment of, like, 1144 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:05,299 Nicky: confrontation between the two where he admits to Simran that, you know, 1145 00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:06,520 Nicky: I knew it all along. 1146 00:40:06,539 --> 00:40:09,099 Nicky: And then while that was happening, like... 1147 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:13,960 Nicky: A fucking heavy loader, tractor, just crashes into their home. 1148 00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:15,560 Nicky: Wait, he slaps her. 1149 00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:17,180 Speaker 5: Yes, he missed the beating scene. 1150 00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 5: The beating scene. 1151 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 5: He slaps her. 1152 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,420 Speaker 5: And then says, I wish I killed you instead. 1153 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:25,460 Khilli: Sunny was a rapey guy and her husband is an abusive piece of shit. 1154 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Winnie: So... 1155 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960 Winnie: and he slaps her multiple times 1156 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,840 Adam: right like 1157 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,540 Winnie: punches her right across the face 1158 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,340 Adam: and keep saying i wish you were on 1159 00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:35,460 Winnie: united 91 instead 1160 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:36,660 Adam: of my wife and that's 1161 00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:37,260 Winnie: when he also admits 1162 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,160 Winnie: to her that he killed sunny but then in the way of saying yeah i killed him but i should have killed 1163 00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:42,800 Winnie: you instead that makes 1164 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,340 Khilli: her fall in love with him right 1165 00:40:44,340 --> 00:40:45,060 Winnie: and then you see this 1166 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 5: scene where he's like 1167 00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 5: sitting on the steps 1168 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,680 Khilli: and he's angry 1169 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 5: and 1170 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,500 Winnie: she goes to him and tries to like apologize like you can see that 1171 00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:55,880 Winnie: in this scene she is not upset at all about the fact that she just got slapped by her husband 1172 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:56,880 Khilli: she's 1173 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,960 Adam: honestly used to this 1174 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,980 Winnie: right that's what 1175 00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:01,200 Khilli: happens if your first lover is an abusive piece 1176 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,700 Khilli: of shit 1177 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,320 Winnie: yeah the whole time you get 1178 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,060 Khilli: it like as a like a no like that's normal 1179 00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:06,740 Nicky: yeah 1180 00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:07,300 Khilli: they 1181 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:07,640 Winnie: go through 1182 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,980 Winnie: these emotions where like you can see she's like yeah i deserve this i was not a good woman can 1183 00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:17,000 Winnie: you please forgive me and he still doesn't forgive her so apparently that's a very yeah 1184 00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:22,340 Nicky: yeah it's a very uh i mean this movie is making me uncomfortable i don't understand how you guys 1185 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:22,920 Nicky: like this 1186 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,780 Speaker 5: i'll explain later so the tractor bashes into their room there's 1187 00:41:26,780 --> 00:41:27,440 Nicky: a tractor that 1188 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:34,520 Nicky: rams into their room drops the carpet without the body uh as a sign of like you know i know what you 1189 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:35,840 Nicky: did last summer kind of thing 1190 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,180 Adam: but like what a way to show that like why not just leave the carpet 1191 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,120 Adam: in the front door because then 1192 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,780 Adam: Whoever's driving that tractor then has to jump out and run away. 1193 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Adam: Wouldn't they be like, who's that guy that just left the tractor? 1194 00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:49,100 Adam: Just leave it and hide. 1195 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:52,860 Nicky: It's a pretty wild series of events. 1196 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,880 Adam: Also, that means they're driving the tractor through the city, right? 1197 00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:02,040 Adam: So they go to the park, get the carpet out, 1198 00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:04,620 Adam: and then they're just driving along Bangkok again 1199 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,800 Adam: with this body getting held by the tractor to go to this house. 1200 00:42:08,619 --> 00:42:21,520 Nicky: Yeah, so when that happened, what does Simran suggest? She suggests that her husband should leave the country. Yeah, that's the best solution right there. 1201 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,059 Nicky: Just run. 1202 00:42:22,220 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: And just run. 1203 00:42:22,779 --> 00:42:28,599 Nicky: And I think it's kind of funny because the movie is made in 2004, right? They go to Don Muang Airport. 1204 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 5: Because 1205 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,300 Nicky: one of whom never existed back then. 1206 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:31,940 Speaker 5: Oh, wow. 1207 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 5: They have to 1208 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,320 Nicky: fly to India. 1209 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,720 Nicky: They're flying back to India in Donwood. 1210 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:37,740 Nicky: That's a nice little piece 1211 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:38,420 Speaker 5: of history 1212 00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:38,940 Nicky: for me. 1213 00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:43,340 Nicky: But instead of him going through with the plan, 1214 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,460 Nicky: he catches wind that she was being chased by the cops. 1215 00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:50,680 Nicky: So that's when he decides to go back. 1216 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:54,280 Nicky: And it goes back to the present day where he confesses that, 1217 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,300 Nicky: hey, you know, he... 1218 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,460 Nicky: he did the murder 1219 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,060 Winnie: this whole act of her pushing him to go back 1220 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,820 Winnie: to India with Kabir also 1221 00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:04,880 Winnie: kind of makes him fall in love with her 1222 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,520 Winnie: a little bit you see this playing out 1223 00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:08,780 Winnie: in the background as all this is coming along 1224 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000 Winnie: where he's starting to realize that he feels 1225 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,880 Winnie: like a stronger man with her by her side 1226 00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:14,099 Speaker 5: yeah and 1227 00:43:14,099 --> 00:43:18,560 Nicky: and then he actually did say like you know we get this like really nice touching moment 1228 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,240 Nicky: like i guess where he like tells her it's not your fault 1229 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 5: i'm 1230 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,839 Nicky: the one that caused it you know 1231 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:25,880 Winnie: right being 1232 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,820 Nicky: unattentive 1233 00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:29,900 Winnie: i never cared for your feelings so you see that so that's 1234 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:30,260 Adam: why i 1235 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:30,440 Winnie: like 1236 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,520 Winnie: this movie it's very mature he 1237 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,880 Khilli: always had reason to fall in love with her she was caring she was 1238 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:43,180 Khilli: everything yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 1239 00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:43,220 Khilli: But I never realized how come she fallen in love with that piece of shit guy. 1240 00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:45,580 Winnie: That's the biggest mystery. 1241 00:43:45,980 --> 00:43:46,080 Winnie: Yeah. 1242 00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:48,480 Winnie: I don't think she is in love with him necessarily. 1243 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,100 Winnie: She's doing it out of duty, right? 1244 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,540 Winnie: Like to 1245 00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:51,400 Khilli: be the mother. 1246 00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:51,840 Khilli: At the beginning, yes. 1247 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:53,420 Khilli: But towards the end, like it's 1248 00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:55,240 Winnie: kind of shown that like, 1249 00:43:55,420 --> 00:43:56,779 Khilli: they are in love now 1250 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,299 Khilli: and together. 1251 00:43:57,319 --> 00:43:57,720 Khilli: Well, of course, 1252 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,440 Winnie: by the end of the movie, 1253 00:43:58,539 --> 00:43:59,359 Winnie: she'll fall in love with him 1254 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:00,819 Winnie: because she just dealt with Sunny, right? 1255 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,680 Winnie: Like, when you realize 1256 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:02,940 Winnie: that that kind of man 1257 00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 5: exists, 1258 00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 5: yeah, you run back 1259 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 5: into the 1260 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,859 Winnie: arms of the man 1261 00:44:05,859 --> 00:44:06,619 Winnie: who slaps you. 1262 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:07,900 Winnie: At least he's not going to kill you 1263 00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:08,480 Winnie: and rape you. 1264 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:09,680 Winnie: He's a nice guy 1265 00:44:09,779 --> 00:44:10,420 Winnie: in this scenario. 1266 00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:11,920 Winnie: Pick your poison, 1267 00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:12,460 Adam: ladies. 1268 00:44:13,180 --> 00:44:13,700 Khilli: I would have liked 1269 00:44:13,859 --> 00:44:14,599 Khilli: both of them to die. 1270 00:44:14,740 --> 00:44:15,279 Khilli: But anyway, yeah. 1271 00:44:15,539 --> 00:44:15,760 Khilli: If I 1272 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,059 Adam: was him, 1273 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,380 Adam: even though she's hot and stuff, 1274 00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:18,500 Adam: like, I would feel so weird 1275 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,599 Adam: fucking my dead wife's sister. 1276 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:22,380 Adam: No matter how hot 1277 00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:23,339 Adam: or caring she is, 1278 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Adam: I would not be into that. 1279 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,400 Khilli: yeah uh 1280 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,560 Nicky: and it would have ended there you know he admitted he goes to jail but no we need to have 1281 00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:35,740 Nicky: like a very bodywood twist that we're like hang on that doesn't explain where the body went 1282 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:36,040 Adam: yeah 1283 00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:41,160 Adam: wait a second actually we didn't solve shit because there's no body and 1284 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,960 Nicky: then what did we find out he was 1285 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,880 Nicky: Sonny was alive the whole time. 1286 00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:50,440 Nicky: I think this is the moment where it's like a jump the shark moment to me. 1287 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,860 Adam: So go back in time. 1288 00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:55,020 Adam: He's like faking dead the whole time. 1289 00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:58,100 Adam: He's getting dragged around Bangkok when they're like asking about his shit. 1290 00:44:58,180 --> 00:44:59,460 Adam: He's like listening to that. 1291 00:44:59,740 --> 00:44:59,940 Adam: Yeah. 1292 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,300 Adam: He's just getting dragged around like alive. 1293 00:45:03,220 --> 00:45:03,480 Adam: Why? 1294 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:04,380 Adam: Just get out. 1295 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,020 Adam: Yeah. 1296 00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:05,520 Adam: Just run. 1297 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,700 Adam: Beat him up. 1298 00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:26,260 Nicky: They find this out because like they arrested like his girl, Sunny's girlfriend, right? And then she said that, oh, I saw him dragging the body, so I followed him. And then there's a moment where like Sudhir like walks away from the car in the parking lot. And then like, she just goes up to the trunk of his car and then it just opens. 1299 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:28,160 Winnie: he's just like 1300 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,180 Adam: chilling drinking tea 1301 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,320 Winnie: there's a bloody hand sticking out 1302 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,140 Nicky: and then Sonny was like 1303 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,360 Nicky: we gotta keep up the charade 1304 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:37,940 Nicky: because like 1305 00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:40,800 Nicky: blackmail him and he's gonna pay 1306 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,780 Nicky: we're gonna get all the money and then we can 1307 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,960 Nicky: live a happy life I 1308 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,240 Winnie: don't know 1309 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,880 Winnie: and Sonny's plan is also to get Sudhir into prison 1310 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,680 Winnie: right make it 1311 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,020 Nicky: look like 1312 00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:48,560 Adam: he killed 1313 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,200 Winnie: Sonny 1314 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,080 Winnie: so that Sonny could then be with Simran 1315 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:51,400 Winnie: but 1316 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,100 Adam: he's telling this girl like look if you take 1317 00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:54,600 Adam: these photos and blackmail 1318 00:45:54,620 --> 00:46:00,340 Adam: him then i will leave you so like this is all so i can be with this other girl she's like okay cool 1319 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:02,000 Adam: i can't wait to 1320 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,960 Khilli: get broken up with infatuation 1321 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,480 Adam: yeah it's 1322 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,200 Nicky: like the second girl makes the plot a 1323 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:09,460 Nicky: little kooky i guess sonny's 1324 00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:11,600 Adam: really good at sex is what the movie's trying to 1325 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,820 Nicky: like 1326 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 5: convey to you 1327 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,380 Speaker 5: like crazier 1328 00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:14,500 Nicky: these chicks 1329 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,840 Adam: go crazy over his dick man like that's all they're i mean that's all 1330 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,060 Adam: understanding from this 1331 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,240 Adam: So, 1332 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:20,660 Nicky: yeah, that's what happened. 1333 00:46:20,819 --> 00:46:24,039 Nicky: He's alive and he shows up at Simran's home. 1334 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,380 Nicky: And again, he tries to get all murdery and rapey. 1335 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:35,339 Nicky: And then we get this really thriller-esque scene where she's trying to run away from him in the rain. 1336 00:46:35,789 --> 00:46:37,539 Nicky: And then the police catches wind of it. 1337 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,420 Nicky: Sudhir in jail hears of it. 1338 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:43,079 Nicky: He fucking jumps out of the police station window. 1339 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,460 Nicky: I don't know if you remember that. 1340 00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:46,900 Nicky: He jumps out like... 1341 00:46:47,339 --> 00:46:48,539 Nicky: And then runs away from the 1342 00:46:48,539 --> 00:46:48,579 Winnie: top. 1343 00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:49,599 Winnie: And police are like firing 1344 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:50,579 Adam: shots at him 1345 00:46:50,609 --> 00:46:50,980 Adam: and he's 1346 00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:51,440 Winnie: just running. 1347 00:46:53,619 --> 00:46:54,260 Nicky: None of the shots. 1348 00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:54,599 Nicky: He's like a 1349 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,319 Adam: messed out Superman at this point, 1350 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:56,920 Winnie: by the way. 1351 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:58,420 Winnie: He did remind me of Clark Kent. 1352 00:46:58,579 --> 00:46:58,700 Winnie: He 1353 00:46:58,700 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 5: totally does. 1354 00:46:59,799 --> 00:47:00,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, checks 1355 00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:00,460 Winnie: out. 1356 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,020 Nicky: So yeah, where are the, you know, 1357 00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:04,740 Nicky: and so this is like the finale, 1358 00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:05,599 Nicky: the climax. 1359 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:07,900 Nicky: They're like end up in some sort of like... 1360 00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:08,740 Nicky: Hedge maze? 1361 00:47:09,339 --> 00:47:11,279 Adam: It does not exist in 1362 00:47:11,279 --> 00:47:11,559 Winnie: Bangkok. 1363 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:11,960 Winnie: They're 1364 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,619 Adam: running around and 1365 00:47:12,619 --> 00:47:13,079 Winnie: they're such 1366 00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,440 Adam: a fucking hedge maze that you'd find like a Halloween place. 1367 00:47:16,779 --> 00:47:18,660 Adam: I've never seen this anywhere in 1368 00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:18,980 Speaker 5: Thailand. 1369 00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:21,779 Adam: And they're like just stuck in this maze. 1370 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,180 Khilli: That's Sukumit, bro. 1371 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:26,440 Nicky: It's the Sukumit hedge maze. 1372 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,299 Nicky: Haven't you guys heard? 1373 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:28,079 Nicky: Sorry, I'm late. 1374 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:28,599 Nicky: I was stuck 1375 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:29,619 Adam: in the hedge maze again. 1376 00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:29,960 Adam: I 1377 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,260 Nicky: couldn't 1378 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:31,140 Adam: find my way out. 1379 00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,000 Adam: The one that's in the middle of the sidewalk. 1380 00:47:33,279 --> 00:47:34,720 Adam: I always get lost in there. 1381 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,280 Nicky: And then, yeah, to make a long story short, they get stuck in this hedge maze. 1382 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,180 Nicky: The three main characters, Sudhir and Sunny, gets into a fight. 1383 00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:43,700 Nicky: In the rain. 1384 00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:45,600 Adam: It's kind of like The Shining, actually. 1385 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,200 Adam: Yeah. 1386 00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:51,820 Nicky: Sudhir wins, and then, you know, he embraces Simran. 1387 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,380 Nicky: Not before, like, Sunny comes back with a rake, and then that's when the police chief comes in and shoots him to death. 1388 00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:00,200 Nicky: death 1389 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,940 Adam: like through the hedge maze 1390 00:48:02,290 --> 00:48:02,940 Adam: through the hedge 1391 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,840 Adam: like 1392 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,260 Speaker 5: somehow 1393 00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:05,720 Adam: he's like running around 1394 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,600 Adam: this maze and missing dead ends and then 1395 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,100 Adam: shoots him right in time yeah 1396 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,160 Adam: it's also really funny 1397 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,580 Winnie: because we have this scene where 1398 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:13,760 Winnie: Sonny like gets up and he 1399 00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:15,640 Winnie: sees the two of them hugging and he just turns 1400 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:17,720 Winnie: around and walks away and they think that's the 1401 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,620 Winnie: end they're like well this guy just tried to 1402 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,700 Winnie: ruin our lives but now we can just keep hugging 1403 00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:23,600 Winnie: he's gone danger is gone 1404 00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:25,520 Winnie: There's no way he'll show up again with the rake. 1405 00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:25,760 Winnie: He 1406 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,740 Adam: doesn't seem crazy. 1407 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,600 Winnie: Yeah, right? 1408 00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:28,600 Winnie: He seems like a reasonable guy. 1409 00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:29,660 Winnie: He sees now we're in love. 1410 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,560 Winnie: He'll leave us alone. 1411 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,020 Winnie: He says 1412 00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:31,840 Adam: we're married, right? 1413 00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:37,380 Khilli: Firing three shots to a man who doesn't have a gun. 1414 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,920 Khilli: It's like so unnecessarily overwhelming. 1415 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,060 Khilli: Like, why are you shooting 1416 00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:41,500 Adam: like three? 1417 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,000 Adam: He had a hoe. 1418 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,120 Adam: Like, that's dangerous as shit. 1419 00:48:47,099 --> 00:48:49,460 Winnie: You mean when Sunny was gonna hit them with a rake and the police fight? 1420 00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:50,619 Winnie: Yeah, police fires 1421 00:48:50,619 --> 00:48:51,700 Khilli: like three fucking shots. 1422 00:48:51,730 --> 00:48:51,839 Khilli: Like 1423 00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:52,099 Winnie: when 1424 00:48:52,099 --> 00:48:53,079 Khilli: he's like falling down, 1425 00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:55,940 Khilli: like just fucking fire a shot with his hand or something. 1426 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,359 Khilli: Like why are you killing people like left and right? 1427 00:48:58,359 --> 00:48:59,180 Khilli: Why are you killing the 1428 00:48:59,180 --> 00:48:59,880 Winnie: rapist police? 1429 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,300 Winnie: Save the rapist. 1430 00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:01,680 Winnie: The 1431 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,240 Khilli: police doesn't know what's happening. 1432 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,380 Khilli: The police is killing himself. 1433 00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:05,900 Winnie: The police have enough context. 1434 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,020 Khilli: You're killing someone. 1435 00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:08,180 Khilli: It's a proper investigation. 1436 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,000 Khilli: Now you just have like... 1437 00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:11,820 Khilli: like details from two 1438 00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:14,120 Adam: people he's about 1439 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,440 Winnie: to 1440 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,120 Khilli: he's about to 1441 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,500 Winnie: kill 1442 00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:16,660 Khilli: like the couple 1443 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,120 Winnie: rake 1444 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,860 Khilli: is i mean they're in between of a fighting like you see people fighting and then someone is 1445 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,800 Khilli: attacking someone is of course you have to de-escalate the situation you shot you shoot 1446 00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:39,980 Khilli: his hand his leg or anything i mean 1447 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,360 Khilli: He shoot like three times to make sure he's dead. 1448 00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:36,540 Khilli: Like, you could have shot like one shot anyway. 1449 00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:37,580 Khilli: He's like falling down. 1450 00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:38,320 Khilli: Okay, done. 1451 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,060 Khilli: No. 1452 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,980 Khilli: Like two more shots to make sure 1453 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:41,540 Adam: he's dead. 1454 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,460 Adam: But if they shot him in the foot, he'd still hold on to that rake, which can kill so many 1455 00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 5: people. 1456 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,420 Winnie: Yeah, yeah. 1457 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,900 Winnie: But also, I think it's okay. 1458 00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:49,040 Winnie: It's okay that he died 1459 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,400 Adam: in the 1460 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,780 Khilli: end, right? 1461 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:51,060 Khilli: Weapon of mass destruction. 1462 00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:52,380 Winnie: They know the story. 1463 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,160 Winnie: She's explained that, you know, she's explained the rapes and everything as well. 1464 00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:56,820 Winnie: And he has a criminal offense. 1465 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,160 Winnie: So he's also... 1466 00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,020 Adam: And he's a DJ. 1467 00:49:59,500 --> 00:49:59,680 Adam: Right, 1468 00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:00,180 Winnie: right. 1469 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,240 Winnie: Yeah. 1470 00:50:03,740 --> 00:50:04,680 Winnie: So worthy of. 1471 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:04,960 Adam: So 1472 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 5: like nobody gives a fuck. 1473 00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:08,920 Winnie: Like Moonlight will find another DJ. 1474 00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:09,800 Winnie: It'll be fine. 1475 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:13,200 Adam: Nobody 1476 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 5: cares. 1477 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:16,119 Adam: Yeah, that's the end of the movie. 1478 00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:17,880 Adam: He really wants that DJ gig at Moonlight. 1479 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:19,700 Adam: The police officer really wants it. 1480 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,980 Adam: Sonny was his competition. 1481 00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:24,880 Adam: Now at the end credits you see like the police officers DJing at Moonlight. 1482 00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:25,800 Adam: He's super happy. 1483 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,960 Winnie: that was a plot that's the plot 1484 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,220 Nicky: yeah that's it that was the end they they drive home 1485 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,299 Nicky: very silently like the end of a horror movie like they just survived an ordeal 1486 00:50:38,740 --> 00:50:41,720 Nicky: and that's uh that's murder for you um oh before 1487 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,599 Winnie: that the police congratulates 1488 00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:45,760 Winnie: Sudhir and Simran on 1489 00:50:46,339 --> 00:50:47,660 Winnie: being able to sustain their marriage 1490 00:50:47,859 --> 00:50:49,500 Winnie: and discovering this newfound love 1491 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:51,800 Winnie: and wishes them a good happy life together 1492 00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:53,140 Nicky: I rolled my 1493 00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:53,680 Winnie: eyes 1494 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:53,940 Winnie: when 1495 00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:54,780 Adam: he said that I'm 1496 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:54,900 Winnie: like 1497 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:55,859 Nicky: oh my god 1498 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,200 Nicky: dude 1499 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,359 Nicky: the 1500 00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:00,060 Adam: police is like yeah like hey you guys love each other 1501 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,060 Adam: like your marriage said you really can't 1502 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:04,000 Adam: leave this like you're bound so just 1503 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:05,960 Adam: enjoy your new marriage just don't worry 1504 00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:06,800 Adam: about it 1505 00:51:06,820 --> 00:51:07,660 Adam: no trauma 1506 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 5: like 1507 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:12,740 Adam: they really like send them off like again the movie is very forgiving to her 1508 00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:17,760 Adam: they don't paint her in any bad light they totally forgive her and then the guy kind of 1509 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,080 Adam: redeems himself and he admits his mistakes and like tries to put more effort into the 1510 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 5: relationship 1511 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,280 Adam: he's not like expecting her to like love him without him doing 1512 00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:26,660 Adam: anything 1513 00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:27,160 Winnie: right 1514 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,460 Adam: right you know and yeah she has a lot of agency and and the police officer you know 1515 00:51:31,660 --> 00:51:37,200 Adam: says hey you're okay too you know like we don't care and you know that's a pretty solid message 1516 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,059 Adam: if you're gonna cheat that's the way to do it yeah 1517 00:51:41,059 --> 00:51:42,460 Nicky: you cheat to 1518 00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:43,400 Adam: make your marriage stronger 1519 00:51:44,660 --> 00:51:44,840 Adam: That 1520 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,260 Winnie: is a takeaway message. 1521 00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:47,940 Adam: It helped 1522 00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:48,660 Winnie: them find love. 1523 00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:50,000 Winnie: When you excite your marriage 1524 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,500 Adam: with cheating and intrigue and near death by rake, it just brings you guys closer together. 1525 00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:58,500 Adam: It's a big kink thing. 1526 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,600 Adam: Jesus. 1527 00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:02,960 Nicky: yeah 1528 00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:04,140 Nicky: yeah so 1529 00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:05,400 Nicky: and then I find out 1530 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:05,779 Nicky: that like 1531 00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:06,720 Nicky: Murder is actually 1532 00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:07,420 Nicky: part of like 1533 00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:08,520 Nicky: a trilogy of films 1534 00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:10,299 Speaker 5: there's a second 1535 00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:10,859 Nicky: Murder 1536 00:52:11,859 --> 00:52:12,839 Nicky: with the same actor 1537 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:13,200 Nicky: but 1538 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 5: he plays 1539 00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:14,420 Nicky: a different character 1540 00:52:14,799 --> 00:52:15,460 Nicky: I don't know anything 1541 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:16,020 Nicky: do you know any 1542 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,680 Nicky: about that Kiwi? 1543 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:17,839 Khilli: I know they have 1544 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:18,359 Khilli: come up with 1545 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,839 Khilli: Murder 2 1546 00:52:18,970 --> 00:52:19,599 Khilli: and Murder 3 1547 00:52:19,779 --> 00:52:20,079 Khilli: or something 1548 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:20,299 Khilli: and 1549 00:52:20,299 --> 00:52:20,740 Nicky: stuff like 1550 00:52:20,740 --> 00:52:20,839 Khilli: that 1551 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,240 Khilli: but I've never 1552 00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:21,819 Khilli: watched them 1553 00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:24,220 Khilli: I think maybe murder 2, like, Sunny is, like, 1554 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,980 Khilli: leaves the game or something. 1555 00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,100 Khilli: Oh, I think it's a totally different 1556 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:27,460 Winnie: story. 1557 00:52:27,740 --> 00:52:28,200 Winnie: It is the 1558 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,220 Khilli: common theme of 1559 00:52:29,220 --> 00:52:30,060 Winnie: it, I guess. 1560 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,820 Winnie: And I think he didn't come back for murder 3, 1561 00:52:31,870 --> 00:52:33,680 Winnie: but they're apparently making murder 4 now, 1562 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,420 Winnie: and he's going to return for that. 1563 00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:35,740 Winnie: Ooh! 1564 00:52:36,270 --> 00:52:36,860 Winnie: I think Sunny 1565 00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:37,540 Khilli: should return. 1566 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,400 Winnie: Like, the three bullets are 1567 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,900 Khilli: not enough. 1568 00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:42,500 Khilli: Like, fuck, fuck, fuck, this... 1569 00:52:42,580 --> 00:52:44,060 Khilli: Policies, guns, and everything. 1570 00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:44,440 Khilli: Why? 1571 00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:46,180 Khilli: Why he has to die? 1572 00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:47,260 Khilli: He wants that DJ 1573 00:52:47,260 --> 00:52:47,920 Adam: spot back. 1574 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,280 Adam: He's going to kill the police officer to get back that moonlight gig. 1575 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:53,760 Adam: That sweet moonlight gig. 1576 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,420 Khilli: He could afford such a big house. 1577 00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:58,720 Khilli: Murder 2 and 3 is all about everyone just 1578 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,100 Adam: trying to get this moonlight gig. 1579 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:03,820 Adam: Should we do the fear of stairs scale? 1580 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,160 Adam: Yes. 1581 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:13,320 Adam: Okay, so the staircase moment, I don't know about you guys, mine was when the guy rams the wall on his motorcycle in that song, if you guys remember. 1582 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:22,099 Nicky: It was just a romp, like someone crashed in that musical number and then they look back and then it just cuts to another scene and they never talk about it. 1583 00:53:22,359 --> 00:53:22,540 Nicky: So 1584 00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:28,380 Adam: they're doing like a montage about them being together, Sonny and... 1585 00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:28,619 Adam: Fuck. 1586 00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:29,279 Adam: Simran. 1587 00:53:29,619 --> 00:53:30,099 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1588 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,799 Adam: Sonny and Simran. 1589 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,799 Adam: And they're like, 1590 00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:34,119 Adam: this was them during college, right? 1591 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,380 Adam: And they're 1592 00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 5: living like a fast 1593 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,059 Adam: and furious lifestyle. 1594 00:53:36,359 --> 00:53:36,559 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1595 00:53:36,690 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 5: Like you got a motorcycle 1596 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,559 Adam: and they're doing all these races together 1597 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:39,700 Adam: and they're doing this one race 1598 00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:41,000 Adam: with this other guy. 1599 00:53:41,650 --> 00:53:43,640 Adam: And it ends like when they... 1600 00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,060 Adam: approach a wall 1601 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,000 Adam: with a very narrow 1602 00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:46,420 Adam: hall 1603 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,160 Adam: and only 1604 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,480 Adam: Sonny goes through 1605 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:48,900 Adam: and the other guy 1606 00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,100 Adam: just slams into the wall 1607 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:51,100 Adam: and dies instantly 1608 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:51,980 Adam: and they just kind of 1609 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,600 Adam: move on 1610 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,940 Khilli: but I like 1611 00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:54,200 Khilli: like 1612 00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:56,160 Khilli: so the guy was like 1613 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,640 Khilli: showing some wheelie 1614 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,040 Khilli: and like motorcycle stunt 1615 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,080 Khilli: and Simran was like 1616 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:00,820 Khilli: cheering for him 1617 00:54:00,820 --> 00:54:01,180 Khilli: so that 1618 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,080 Khilli: irritated, sunny that like, 1619 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,780 Khilli: Simon is cheering for another guy. 1620 00:54:05,090 --> 00:54:06,820 Khilli: So he becomes jealous and starts to like, 1621 00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:07,680 Khilli: ram his motorcycle. 1622 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,680 Khilli: And then somehow there is no conversation. 1623 00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:12,480 Khilli: The guy, the guy who was doing that, 1624 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,340 Khilli: they know the drill. 1625 00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:15,460 Khilli: Like, this means like this race 1626 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,900 Khilli: that ends with the hallway, 1627 00:54:17,060 --> 00:54:19,240 Khilli: like with one door and one person dies. 1628 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,300 Khilli: He just instantly goes into the race mode. 1629 00:54:23,350 --> 00:54:24,160 Khilli: And then like, okay, 1630 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:25,960 Khilli: this is the thing that they have been doing. 1631 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,100 Adam: Like someone always dies in one of these races. 1632 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:29,980 Adam: It's definitely. 1633 00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:30,660 Khilli: it was psycho 1634 00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:31,580 Khilli: if not someone 1635 00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:32,320 Khilli: always dies 1636 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,100 Khilli: someone definitely 1637 00:54:33,550 --> 00:54:34,180 Khilli: sometimes dies 1638 00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:35,840 Winnie: and I guess another 1639 00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:36,780 Winnie: big fear of stairs moment 1640 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:37,740 Winnie: is when Sunny comes back 1641 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,320 Winnie: to life right 1642 00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 5: because we all think 1643 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,560 Winnie: he's dead 1644 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,140 Winnie: that is 1645 00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 5: my fear of stairs moment 1646 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:42,060 Speaker 5: when 1647 00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:42,760 Nicky: we realize 1648 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,360 Nicky: he's alive 1649 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:44,120 Nicky: it's like 1650 00:54:44,370 --> 00:54:46,080 Nicky: a very Bollywood-esque 1651 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,200 Nicky: twist for me 1652 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,080 Winnie: and I really didn't see 1653 00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:48,420 Winnie: that coming 1654 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,120 Winnie: because at that point 1655 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:50,280 Winnie: it felt like there was 1656 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:50,880 Winnie: enough plot 1657 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:51,460 Winnie: like 1658 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:52,320 Nicky: it had already 1659 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,720 Winnie: peaked 1660 00:54:52,820 --> 00:54:53,500 Winnie: and it was about to 1661 00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:54,240 Winnie: like come down 1662 00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:54,860 Winnie: and all of a sudden 1663 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:55,300 Winnie: it's like whoop 1664 00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:55,900 Winnie: another peak 1665 00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:56,640 Winnie: another plot twist 1666 00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:57,480 Nicky: I did feel like 1667 00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:58,360 Nicky: Sudhir going to jail 1668 00:54:58,500 --> 00:54:59,260 Nicky: would have been like 1669 00:54:59,579 --> 00:55:00,059 Nicky: an ending 1670 00:55:00,059 --> 00:55:02,020 Winnie: yeah exactly i 1671 00:55:02,020 --> 00:55:06,559 Khilli: think that's where the french film ends as far as far i i read the 1672 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:13,020 Khilli: synopsis of the uh unfaithful wife uh synopsis floor synopsis yeah that's where the film ends 1673 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,140 Khilli: where sudir goes to jail and that's then the volume starts 1674 00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:18,680 Winnie: it makes sense right because it 1675 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,599 Winnie: kind of makes sense and everything like flows well up till then and then you see like a bit of like 1676 00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:27,420 Winnie: Bollywood craziness coming in like that masala twist that doesn't really add make sense it's like 1677 00:55:27,580 --> 00:55:27,780 Winnie: confusing. 1678 00:55:27,810 --> 00:55:32,300 Adam: When that happened I like pause the movie like what time is it like I thought the movie was done 1679 00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:34,580 Adam: I'm like why is there an hour more of this shit? 1680 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,620 Winnie: So basically when I try to add some originality 1681 00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:40,000 Winnie: that's when things go haywire. They're like uh coming back from the dead I 1682 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,740 Adam: guess like where do we take it from there? 1683 00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:46,580 Adam: Yeah that makes a lot of sense okay yeah the coming back from the dead thing is the Indian thing. 1684 00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:52,240 Khilli: yeah that's just like like you take and i like a french food and put some garam masala on top 1685 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:52,440 Adam: of 1686 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,160 Adam: it to make it indian so 1687 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,079 Winnie: i would say give it like a four out of five for that 1688 00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,820 Adam: there's a couple shocking moments that 1689 00:55:59,820 --> 00:56:00,420 Nicky: i genuinely 1690 00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:02,300 Adam: didn't see coming uh 1691 00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:03,579 Nicky: dance floor clause 1692 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:09,700 Nicky: i mean it does serve the plot in a way right you get to see moments where like 1693 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:10,700 Nicky: you know, 1694 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,820 Nicky: Sunny and, 1695 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,620 Nicky: and Simran's relationship blossoms. 1696 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,260 Nicky: And there was even like this really cool, 1697 00:56:18,350 --> 00:56:19,240 Nicky: I don't know how to explain it. 1698 00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:20,440 Nicky: Like salsa music. 1699 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,400 Nicky: I don't know what it's like. 1700 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:21,900 Nicky: It's like, 1701 00:56:22,220 --> 00:56:22,620 Nicky: it's like they, 1702 00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:26,940 Nicky: it's like when Simran and Sudhir attend this like business dinner. 1703 00:56:27,420 --> 00:56:30,220 Nicky: And then they have like this really nice tango dance. 1704 00:56:30,790 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1705 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,340 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1706 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,020 Speaker 5: It's a tango type thing. 1707 00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 5: It's a tango type 1708 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:33,720 Nicky: thing. 1709 00:56:33,730 --> 00:56:34,540 Nicky: I thought that was kind of cool. 1710 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:41,980 Nicky: and there's a lot of tension between like you know jealousy and and and being unfaithful i don't know 1711 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:45,100 Nicky: i think it does serve the plot you guys said the songs were super popular right 1712 00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,280 Winnie: yes yes this album 1713 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:46,620 Winnie: was one 1714 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:47,320 Khilli: of the highest selling 1715 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,480 Winnie: of the year well 1716 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,880 Khilli: kill you the kaho na kaho song the first song 1717 00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:55,280 Khilli: that where they show the romance of sunny and simran in the university time 1718 00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:57,660 Khilli: That's kind of taken from an Arabic song. 1719 00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,119 Khilli: Like it has the Arabic part in it. 1720 00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:01,880 Khilli: That's my most favorite song in this. 1721 00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,180 Khilli: And that became really popular. 1722 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,020 Khilli: And then there was another one, 1723 00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:06,119 Khilli: Bhege Hort There, 1724 00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:11,079 Khilli: like when they're like again rejuvenating their romance in Bangkok, 1725 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,940 Khilli: like where they're like having sex all over the place. 1726 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,200 Adam: Yeah, that song got also popular. 1727 00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:18,040 Adam: I don't get, 1728 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,000 Adam: I did not like the music at all in this movie. 1729 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,940 Adam: I thought it was so boring. 1730 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:25,680 Khilli: Yeah. 1731 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,400 Nicky: It was kind of catchy. 1732 00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:23,960 Nicky: Yeah, 1733 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,820 Adam: I liked 1734 00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:24,980 Nicky: it. 1735 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,360 Khilli: Our scale was for dance numbers. 1736 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:30,280 Khilli: To be honest, there is not much dance 1737 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:30,580 Speaker 5: number. 1738 00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 5: Only where Sunny grinds 1739 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:39,220 Khilli: against Simran while leaving his DJ desk. 1740 00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:48,220 Khilli: During the DJing, he leaves his DJ console, goes on the dance floor and starts grinding on his girlfriend. 1741 00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:50,560 Khilli: I think that's how DJ does it. 1742 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:51,440 Adam: The 1743 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,140 Speaker 5: tractor shakes 1744 00:57:52,140 --> 00:57:53,360 Adam: a little bit when it drops the 1745 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 5: body. 1746 00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:55,680 Adam: That's like a robot dance, I guess. 1747 00:57:56,540 --> 00:57:57,660 Winnie: But yeah, there's not too much dancing. 1748 00:57:57,740 --> 00:58:00,320 Winnie: I think the music kind of drives the plot forward. 1749 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,000 Winnie: You see snippets of their relationship and... 1750 00:58:04,420 --> 00:58:06,960 Winnie: rendezvous adventures but yeah 1751 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Adam: family feud factor well absolutely this whole 1752 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,420 Winnie: movie is pretty much a 1753 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,380 Winnie: domestic issue right it's 1754 00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:16,080 Adam: very weird incestuous stuff going on 1755 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,920 Winnie: yeah 1756 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,860 Adam: like you're sleeping with 1757 00:58:18,860 --> 00:58:25,360 Adam: your sister's husband and taking care of your sister's kid and then sleeping with your college 1758 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,780 Adam: boyfriend who went to jail and 1759 00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:29,060 Adam: for killing a guy 1760 00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:32,380 Winnie: but i do like that this movie kind of explores family dynamics in a very 1761 00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:35,700 Winnie: like nuclear individual family sense you don't have the in-laws 1762 00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,020 Khilli: and the relatives and 1763 00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:37,380 Winnie: the parents 1764 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,880 Winnie: that comes with so many bollywood films 1765 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,940 Khilli: i think that's where the like bangkok comes into 1766 00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:43,220 Winnie: right 1767 00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:44,020 Winnie: they had 1768 00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,500 Speaker 5: to get out of india yeah i 1769 00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:48,560 Khilli: mean even in different city of india wouldn't fail far enough 1770 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:48,940 Khilli: it's 1771 00:58:48,940 --> 00:58:54,380 Adam: actually really interesting so like if they're gonna take the french story they're like we cannot do this in india because there'd 1772 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,820 Adam: too many in-laws to deal with. 1773 00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:58,220 Adam: So they would have to change the story too much. 1774 00:58:58,300 --> 00:58:59,940 Adam: So they just have to literally move out 1775 00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:00,340 Speaker 5: of India 1776 00:59:00,430 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 5: so they 1777 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:00,820 Adam: can 1778 00:59:00,820 --> 00:59:01,680 Khilli: do that story 1779 00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:02,340 Speaker 5: and have 1780 00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:03,200 Adam: it make sense to anyone. 1781 00:59:03,570 --> 00:59:04,380 Khilli: Yeah, adaptation. 1782 00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:06,020 Khilli: Now, this is 1783 00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:06,200 Adam: actually, 1784 00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:07,600 Adam: this is kind of the first time 1785 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,200 Adam: I think we'll ever go to Nikki for this, 1786 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,820 Adam: but regional heat check. 1787 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:11,660 Adam: Well, how did they, 1788 00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:13,300 Adam: did they get a... 1789 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,800 Adam: The region of Bangkok or Indians in Bangkok? 1790 00:59:16,330 --> 00:59:16,880 Adam: Actually, sorry. 1791 00:59:17,230 --> 00:59:17,500 Adam: I don't know. 1792 00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:18,020 Adam: Yeah, you too. 1793 00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:18,420 Adam: Sorry. 1794 00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:19,840 Adam: What's the regional heat check? 1795 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,320 Adam: Just if they got Bangkok right. 1796 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,580 Nicky: Well, I mean, I was going to say that there was, we did mention it a little bit, but they 1797 00:59:25,580 --> 00:59:32,520 Nicky: were like, oh, I have to go to meet a friend within the city, within the next shot is like 1798 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:32,980 Nicky: a beach. 1799 00:59:42,350 --> 00:59:42,440 Nicky: Yeah. 1800 00:59:35,859 --> 00:59:37,059 Nicky: I'm definitely 1801 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,140 Nicky: 80-90% sure 1802 00:59:39,339 --> 00:59:40,960 Nicky: that where Sunny was living 1803 00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:42,599 Nicky: that's a paria walking street 1804 00:59:43,099 --> 00:59:44,420 Nicky: that has to be 1805 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,880 Nicky: it's not accurate but again 1806 00:59:47,180 --> 00:59:48,720 Nicky: I don't think anything of that 1807 00:59:49,220 --> 00:59:50,280 Nicky: really matters 1808 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:50,760 Adam: maybe? 1809 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,460 Adam: They do the same weird 1810 00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:52,300 Adam: geography stuff 1811 00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:53,220 Adam: in The Hangover too. 1812 00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:53,900 Nicky: Yeah. 1813 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:54,780 Nicky: Like where 1814 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:55,339 Adam: they go 1815 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,339 Adam: from like one tower 1816 00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:57,280 Adam: to like a boat 1817 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,020 Adam: you know 1818 00:59:58,119 --> 00:59:59,140 Adam: which isn't really possible. 1819 00:59:59,380 --> 00:59:59,619 Adam: But at 1820 00:59:59,619 --> 01:00:00,300 Winnie: least they depicted 1821 01:00:00,820 --> 01:00:01,800 Winnie: Bangkok as a 1822 01:00:02,099 --> 01:00:02,420 Winnie: normal city. 1823 01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:03,099 Winnie: It looks like 1824 01:00:03,380 --> 01:00:03,599 Winnie: you know 1825 01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:04,720 Winnie: what real Bangkok does. 1826 01:00:04,859 --> 01:00:06,000 Winnie: There's no yellow filter 1827 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,079 Winnie: like there was in Hangover. 1828 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,339 Winnie: They're not going to the slum areas 1829 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 5: intentionally to 1830 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:09,599 Winnie: show 1831 01:00:09,619 --> 01:00:10,500 Winnie: like the poverty sides 1832 01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:10,900 Winnie: of Bangkok. 1833 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,099 Winnie: It's a balanced 1834 01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:16,300 Winnie: you see the sky trains the really nice skyline he has from his office like 1835 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,060 Nicky: yeah the bts 1836 01:00:17,060 --> 01:00:17,780 Speaker 5: train you 1837 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 5: see 1838 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,280 Nicky: the taxi with the taxi 1839 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:19,780 Speaker 5: yeah 1840 01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:20,120 Nicky: like 1841 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,760 Adam: an erotic thriller they don't show any of like the things 1842 01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:25,920 Adam: thailand is known for like erotic wise like 1843 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,040 Winnie: they don't show walking street 1844 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,300 Adam: or soy cowboy or anything 1845 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,680 Winnie: like yeah yeah so that's why it doesn't serve like a direct implication the plot line i think 1846 01:00:32,740 --> 01:00:36,020 Winnie: it's just to show that they're away from india like kill you said when i first 1847 01:00:36,020 --> 01:00:40,660 Adam: like heard that it was like an erotic thriller set in bangkok i was like oh that makes sense like 1848 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,180 Adam: they need to be in thailand because it's like sexier and there's like more nudity no you don't 1849 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:45,680 Adam: see any like 1850 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 5: thai girls there's 1851 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,900 Adam: no nudity they literally just did to get rid of the family 1852 01:00:49,340 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 5: yeah and they don't use any 1853 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,260 Adam: of like the thai like 1854 01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:53,460 Speaker 5: sexual stuff 1855 01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:00,040 Nicky: And then another thing that I found funny was that the private investigator called Sudhir to meet up with him. 1856 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,680 Nicky: And he said that let's meet at Kings Park Street. 1857 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:04,060 Speaker 5: What's Kings Park 1858 01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:04,340 Nicky: Street? 1859 01:01:04,450 --> 01:01:04,900 Nicky: What is that? 1860 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,000 Nicky: That's an Indian name for 1861 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 5: sure. 1862 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,120 Nicky: That is not in Bangkok. 1863 01:01:09,820 --> 01:01:10,860 Nicky: I even Googled it. 1864 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,580 Nicky: Is it something in 2004 that kind of like gets phased out? 1865 01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:14,180 Nicky: by now 1866 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:14,619 Nicky: and I was like 1867 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,540 Nicky: no there is no such thing 1868 01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:16,240 Winnie: no they're just like 1869 01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:17,420 Winnie: Thailand has a royal family 1870 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:17,960 Winnie: or we'll call it 1871 01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:18,640 Winnie: King's Park Street 1872 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:19,960 Nicky: King's Park Street 1873 01:01:20,339 --> 01:01:21,079 Khilli: where were they sitting 1874 01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:21,540 Khilli: they were sitting 1875 01:01:21,780 --> 01:01:22,560 Khilli: somewhere near the palace 1876 01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:24,020 Khilli: palace area right 1877 01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:24,400 Khilli: they 1878 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,720 Nicky: were like 1879 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,760 Nicky: he was like 1880 01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:26,700 Nicky: Sunny was like 1881 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,960 Nicky: driving the motorbike 1882 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,040 Nicky: and then you see like 1883 01:01:29,180 --> 01:01:30,560 Nicky: a shot of the palace 1884 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,720 Winnie: oh yeah right 1885 01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:32,040 Winnie: it 1886 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:32,800 Khilli: was not the private 1887 01:01:32,980 --> 01:01:33,160 Khilli: investigator 1888 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,020 Khilli: yeah they do show 1889 01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:34,940 Winnie: quite a bit of scenes 1890 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,300 Winnie: in Bangkok 1891 01:01:35,339 --> 01:01:35,920 Winnie: they show democracy 1892 01:01:36,339 --> 01:01:36,960 Winnie: monument as well 1893 01:01:37,339 --> 01:01:38,660 Winnie: and a couple rooftops 1894 01:01:38,780 --> 01:01:39,040 Winnie: they're on 1895 01:01:39,140 --> 01:01:39,740 Winnie: right right 1896 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,320 Winnie: Danmung 1897 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,140 Adam: Danmung airport 1898 01:01:43,579 --> 01:01:43,680 Adam: one 1899 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:48,900 Adam: uh what's the moral of the movie cheating is bad no like cheating helps saving marriage that's 1900 01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:54,340 Adam: that's what i think it was yeah was that like actually setting up elaborate role-playing games 1901 01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:56,060 Adam: makes you closer with your partner 1902 01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,820 Winnie: well yeah i'd say the takeaway is just you know be mindful of 1903 01:01:58,820 --> 01:02:03,480 Winnie: the men you go with sometimes it seems fun on the surface and like if you're bored in life yeah like 1904 01:02:03,540 --> 01:02:07,340 Winnie: that's a tempting shiny new thing but it comes to consequences so 1905 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,140 Winnie: You know, the moment you see a red flag. 1906 01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:13,820 Winnie: If you see a red flag, 1907 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,340 Speaker 5: turn around. 1908 01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:14,500 Speaker 5: Are there 1909 01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:15,200 Winnie: any red flags that 1910 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,980 Adam: you noticed in Sunny, Winnie, that would kind of make you, you know... 1911 01:02:18,980 --> 01:02:19,420 Adam: I 1912 01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:20,780 Winnie: think this was a timely watch. 1913 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,920 Winnie: So thank you, Kili, for suggesting this film. 1914 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:23,960 Adam: I have 1915 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,760 Winnie: applied it to my personal life. 1916 01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:37,480 Winnie: And... 1917 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,300 Winnie: yeah hopefully I'll be better off 1918 01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:29,380 Winnie: women 1919 01:02:29,380 --> 01:02:30,440 Khilli: should watch it 1920 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,440 Khilli: obsessive would be the right word 1921 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,380 Winnie: like not passionate 1922 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,160 Khilli: no 1923 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,040 Winnie: at first it seems passionate 1924 01:02:35,140 --> 01:02:35,760 Winnie: and then you realize 1925 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:36,940 Winnie: it's a very thin line 1926 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,340 Winnie: between passionate and obsessive 1927 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:38,580 Adam: right 1928 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:39,500 Adam: so like 1929 01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:40,380 Adam: walk that 1930 01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:40,700 Winnie: carefully 1931 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:40,840 Winnie: I 1932 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,500 Adam: think if anyone's obsessed with you 1933 01:02:42,740 --> 01:02:44,040 Adam: after barely talking to you 1934 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:44,360 Adam: that's 1935 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:46,880 Adam: pretty big red flag in this movie. 1936 01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:47,940 Adam: I'm not talking about anything else. 1937 01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:50,400 Winnie: But 1938 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:50,540 Adam: yes. 1939 01:02:52,099 --> 01:02:52,820 Adam: Alright. Yeah. 1940 01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:55,000 Adam: I guess that's it. Yeah? Yep. I love this 1941 01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:56,940 Adam: movie. I mean like I'll say 1942 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,020 Adam: that. Sorry. This is my final reason I really like this movie 1943 01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:01,040 Adam: is because when you tell me 1944 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,900 Adam: like we're going to watch like an Indian erotic 1945 01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:05,040 Adam: thriller set in Bangkok, I'm really expecting shit. 1946 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,960 Adam: And like the IMDb score was 1947 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:14,680 Adam: really low. I was like whatever. But 1948 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,320 Adam: like honestly like and maybe because it's based off other movies but it is well written like the 1949 01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:21,000 Adam: story is constructed well and there is like compared to movies now like i i did think the the the 1950 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,300 Adam: structure and the story and the writing was good and yeah like i do like that they don't she's not 1951 01:03:25,330 --> 01:03:26,300 Adam: like a whore in this 1952 01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:27,680 Adam: like they don't treat her like that 1953 01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:28,700 Speaker 5: and so 1954 01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:30,280 Adam: I was like this is like a 10 out of 10 1955 01:03:30,370 --> 01:03:32,180 Adam: for me compared to like my scale 1956 01:03:32,210 --> 01:03:33,060 Adam: of what I was expecting 1957 01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:33,580 Speaker 5: which was 1958 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,800 Adam: just a very misogynistic kind of like 1959 01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:38,020 Adam: shitty thing this was a pretty good kind of 1960 01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:39,900 Adam: pulp pulpy detective 1961 01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:40,600 Adam: fiction 1962 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,580 Nicky: I liked it 1963 01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:44,640 Nicky: Yeah, when you put it that way, I understand it. 1964 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,320 Nicky: But I was disappointed there were no boobs. 1965 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,440 Adam: Right. 1966 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,460 Adam: I mean, if there were boobs and it was a really horrible, misogynic story, I mean, yeah, I would have loved it more. 1967 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,220 Adam: But it wasn't. 1968 01:03:53,420 --> 01:03:54,500 Adam: So take what you can get. 1969 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:54,880 Adam: Yeah. 1970 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,580 Winnie: No, I think it's a very interesting movie. 1971 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,800 Winnie: Like, it made me feel uncomfortable, to be honest. 1972 01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:00,720 Winnie: But I enjoyed it. 1973 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,700 Winnie: It was an easy watch. 1974 01:04:02,420 --> 01:04:03,900 Winnie: I think you guys are like... 1975 01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:07,779 Winnie: I'm not happy about the fact that she's not really held accountable for cheating. 1976 01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:10,740 Winnie: But I do think that is quite progressive for Bollywood at the time 1977 01:04:10,740 --> 01:04:11,079 Speaker 5: as well. 1978 01:04:11,170 --> 01:04:11,299 Speaker 5: Because 1979 01:04:11,299 --> 01:04:13,420 Winnie: usually women don't really do much wrong. 1980 01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:16,039 Winnie: But they're still painted in such a negative light anyway. 1981 01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,779 Winnie: So it's nice that she was able to kind of have this infidelity. 1982 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:22,099 Winnie: But she was not shamed upon. 1983 01:04:22,190 --> 01:04:25,339 Winnie: It was not the main point of the movie. 1984 01:04:25,390 --> 01:04:26,900 Winnie: It was also... 1985 01:04:27,279 --> 01:04:28,260 Winnie: there was enough context 1986 01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:29,779 Winnie: actions from the guys 1987 01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:30,460 Winnie: to kind of 1988 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 5: take the 1989 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:31,900 Winnie: weight off 1990 01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:32,599 Winnie: of that alone 1991 01:04:32,650 --> 01:04:33,520 Winnie: so people don't just 1992 01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:34,240 Winnie: vilify her 1993 01:04:34,420 --> 01:04:35,220 Winnie: but also understand 1994 01:04:35,369 --> 01:04:35,740 Winnie: the context 1995 01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:36,559 Winnie: and I think that is 1996 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:37,900 Winnie: that is probably progressive 1997 01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:38,480 Winnie: for that time 1998 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:38,859 Winnie: and they 1999 01:04:38,859 --> 01:04:39,640 Winnie: it still is now 2000 01:04:39,740 --> 01:04:39,960 Nicky: right 2001 01:04:40,180 --> 01:04:41,079 Nicky: I really liked it 2002 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:41,760 Nicky: when the guy 2003 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,520 Nicky: when her husband 2004 01:04:42,609 --> 01:04:43,319 Nicky: was gonna go to jail 2005 01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:44,140 Nicky: and he told her 2006 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:44,839 Nicky: it's not her fault 2007 01:04:45,020 --> 01:04:45,359 Winnie: right right 2008 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,140 Winnie: and then you see a big 2009 01:04:46,339 --> 01:04:46,900 Winnie: redemption arc 2010 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,299 Winnie: character growth there 2011 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:48,760 Winnie: It's a very 2012 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:49,240 Nicky: good scene. 2013 01:04:49,350 --> 01:04:49,760 Nicky: I love it. 2014 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:50,380 Nicky: But still, no boobs. 2015 01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:50,920 Nicky: So zero out of ten. 2016 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:52,760 Winnie: Bye. 2017 01:04:53,740 --> 01:04:54,180 Winnie: Bye-bye.