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Winnie: How
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Adam: might as well just like
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Winnie: Welcome to Fear of Stairs, Desi Films Decoded, the podcast where four friends from different
Winnie: backgrounds unlock the role of Desi Cinema.
Winnie: I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been to India.
Adam: Hi, I'm Killy.
Adam: I'm from India and I love films.
Nicky: I'm Nikki.
Nicky: I like trains.
Adam: Hey, I'm Adam.
Adam: I like trains
Nicky: too.
Adam: Maybe we could be friends.
Nicky: Yeah, okay.
Nicky: We're not of age.
Nicky: We're not the same age, but yeah, we can be friends.
Nicky: I'm sorry.
Adam: We knew it picking
Adam: As long as it's consensual
Adam: We can enjoy trains together
Nicky: Today we're doing a 2013 film
Nicky: Called Chennai Express
Nicky: Which is an action comedy film
Nicky: Starring the ever-lovable
Nicky: And charismatic Shah Rukh Khan
Nicky: So in this one, Shah Rukh Khan plays Raul, who's a 40-year-old sweet seller, and apparently a bachelor, no less.
Nicky: And he lives with his grandparents, and one day they were celebrating his grandfather's 100th year, and...
Nicky: I guess he just ups and dies.
Nicky: And now his dying wish is for Raul to spread his ashes over two locations.
Nicky: One, the Ganges River.
Nicky: And the other is Ramaswaram, which is a municipality in the Ramaswaram.
Nicky: district of the state of Tamil Nadu.
Nicky: - Good job.
Nicky: - So, however, he wants to go to Goa with his friends
Nicky: as one would, right?
Nicky: And he travels by train in the titular Chennai Express
Nicky: because his granny wanted to send him off.
Nicky: So he couldn't like, you know,
Nicky: just sneak off to go off but in doing so he actually manages to miss getting off on the
Nicky: platform the train platform because one he forgot his grandfather's ashes and two he was helping
Nicky: this this woman and four other dudes on board and this woman is played by Deepika Paduko it's
Nicky: Sorry, guys.
Nicky: Who plays Minama, who's a woman that's fleeing from an arranged marriage.
Nicky: So this big man gangster called Tangabali, who's played by Nikitin Deer.
Nicky: And her father is Dergesh, played by Satyaraj, who is a mafia kingpin and landlord in Tamil Nadu.
Nicky: So yeah, anyway, Minama takes Rahul to her village as her lover
Nicky: And Tangabali challenges Rahul to a duel
Nicky: And what ensues is that, you know, Rahul pretends to take
Nicky: Pretends to be her lover
Nicky: And then at one point they go on some wacky adventures together
Nicky: And as most romantic movies tend to be
Nicky: Like buddy comedies
Nicky: They fall in love
Nicky: And that's the gist of the story
Nicky: And if you haven't noticed
Nicky: We are
Adam: doing a new format
Adam: For the podcast
Adam: We're just going to summarize the movie for you
Adam: And that's it
Adam: It's going to be five minutes
Adam: Nikki's going to explain what happened
Adam: And that's kind of it
Adam: We got enough feedback that no one wants to hear our opinions
Adam: So we're just going to tell you what happened
Adam: And then quickly sign off
Winnie: Well, thank you for tuning in.
Winnie: Bye-bye.
Winnie: That'll be it.
Winnie: Yeah, we're
Adam: going to...
Adam: We're playing with some format experimentation,
Adam: trying to make it a little tighter,
Adam: maybe a little more structured, a little shorter.
Adam: We'll see.
Adam: So this film was directed by Rohit Shetty.
Adam: Okay, so see this director, when I was checking up, he was actually a stuntman for a very big star from Bollywood, Ajay Devgan.
Adam: So, and Fuller Kante, the film, like I used to love that film when I was a kid.
Adam: He was a stuntman for the actor.
Adam: So later he grew in the industry.
Adam: He did assistant direction.
Adam: in some
Adam: some other films
Adam: and later he
Adam: worked with
Adam: like he started
Adam: making films
Adam: on his own
Adam: like he became
Adam: a director
Adam: and so his film
Adam: has this
Adam: had this
Adam: theme of
Adam: like over the top
Adam: stunts
Khilli: like
Adam: very
Adam: fantasy
Adam: like
Adam: set up sometimes
Adam: and then like the cars
Adam: blowing up and everything
Adam: so what he used to do like he
Adam: so if you guys know
Adam: Rohit Shetty he's Shetty
Adam: he's from
Adam: Andhra Pradesh so
Adam: the film industry from Andhra Pradesh
Adam: the Telugu film industry is like
Adam: famous or infamous for their over-the-top actions.
Adam: Like, you know, you might have heard of like Bahubali
Adam: sometimes, and then all the films from there are like--
Adam: all the action films have these weird, superfluous actions.
Adam: So he's from there. So what he started doing is like he started remaking films from that industry. And yeah, and then he started making this film remake films, which kind of became hit at one point. And his style, his choices.
Adam: that kind of became a thing in Bollywood, right?
Adam: So in Bollywood, the action sequences
Adam: and in the chase sequences,
Adam: there used to have like those kind of thing
Adam: where the car is blasting off,
Adam: the people when they're punching someone
Adam: is like flying off to like 10 meters away
Adam: and stuff like that.
Adam: Like an
Khilli: anime.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: So he, this guy kind of,
Adam: made that on your face and made it like fun to like how do I put it kind of tongue-in-cheek way
Adam: the so he made the actions in a kind of tongue-in-cheek way but it still stayed with the
Adam: value of the Bollywood like it's serious but not so serious it's kind of on the Twilight Zone of
Adam: serious but not serious kind of
Adam: of thing.
Adam: So, Chennai Express is his first film with,
Adam: I think only film with Shah Rukh Khan.
Adam: So whenever some director is coming up in Bollywood,
Adam: like making a film with one of the big mega star,
Adam: Shah Rukh Khan is mega star, right?
Adam: He's not just a star.
Adam: That's a milestone for your career.
Adam: So I think this was his to make Chennai Express.
Adam: Yeah, so, and also that was a time when
Adam: I think goofiness was becoming a mainstream thing in Bollywood.
Adam: Like when we watched Happy New Year before,
Adam: like we also got the...
Adam: I mean, it was not well made,
Adam: but that goofiness was a part of the theme of the whole film, right?
Adam: I think this was the era where that was becoming mainstream,
Adam: well accepted to be...
Adam: like the main theme of the film.
Adam: Do people...
Adam: I was wondering that watching the film.
Adam: Do people know it's corny
Adam: or do they enjoy it being corny?
Adam: Is it...
Khilli: Ironic or unironic?
Adam: That's also, I don't know yet.
Adam: I mean, sometimes I feel like people...
Adam: I mean, for sure, certain things people know it's corny.
Adam: Like, when you keep on cross-referring the earlier films
Adam: and, like, make a joke of that, it's corny.
Adam: When you are, like...
Adam: doing over-the-top dialogues and like fun it's it's corny but there are certain silliness that
Adam: is intrinsic to that this kind of narrative like the way they suddenly like it's all masculine
Adam: thing happening in the film and then suddenly someone starts talking about women empowerment
Adam: all of a sudden it kind of sounds corny to me but i don't think people actually clog that as corny
Adam: But like,
Khilli: was this movie
Adam: cool?
Adam: Is it cool?
Adam: Or not cool?
Adam: I
Winnie: think this
Khilli: movie could push
Winnie: the limits of Corny
Winnie: because it's Shah Rukh Khan.
Adam: I feel
Winnie: like he can get away
Khilli: with a certain level of corniness.
Adam: Subjective thing.
Adam: For me, it was never cool.
Adam: No, but for other people.
Winnie: It was a very mixed review, which we'll get into later.
Winnie: But it was like, you get both.
Winnie: There
Adam: had been so
Adam: many people who liked the film.
Adam: There
Winnie: had
Adam: been
Adam: so many people who didn't like the film.
Adam: Very mixed.
Adam: I just
Nicky: want to add that the...
Nicky: The goofiness of it all, it does remind me of Thai comedies.
Adam: Yeah,
Khilli: it reminds me a lot of Thai comedies.
Khilli: It was,
Nicky: you know, Thai comedy films have this sort of like corny goofiness, like jokes that
Nicky: anyone can find entertaining.
Nicky: I don't really personally.
Nicky: because it's quite lowbrow
Khilli: it's quite very simple
Adam: sound effects
Adam: when
Khilli: anyone does anything
Khilli: exactly
Khilli: that's it
Khilli: it's the kind of movie
Adam: that's like
Adam: this film is like
Adam: that's exactly it
Adam: it's very lowbrow
Adam: so I was saying
Adam: like this is where
Adam: the lowbrow
Adam: dialogues
Adam: comes
Adam: meets the lowbrow
Adam: visual aesthetic
Adam: in bodyhood so
Khilli: i
Adam: mean whatever it is i
Adam: mean it was a huge hit
Khilli: uh this
Adam: broke like every single
Adam: box office record uh so in india it was the fastest at the time it was the fastest movie
Adam: to hit 100 crore which is about like 16 million usd uh hit it in four days and
Adam: It was the biggest opening day in India ever.
Adam: Highest opening weekend in India.
Adam: Biggest overseas opening.
Adam: It was the first Bollywood film to cross 200 crore, which is about 37 million.
Adam: It was the biggest box office...
Adam: or like the biggest Indian hit in the UK at the time.
Adam: It surpassed three idiots.
Adam: It
Khilli: became the biggest.
Adam: And in the UAE, it was the biggest opening weekend for a Bollywood film ever.
Adam: In India, the weekend it opened, it made back its entire budget.
Winnie: So very successful box office.
Winnie: Incredibly successful.
Winnie: So
Adam: the budget at the time was around like 16 million USD.
Adam: It made that back opening weekend.
Winnie: Wow.
Winnie: That's wild.
Winnie: Massive,
Adam: massive, huge hit.
Winnie: So despite it being a massive, huge hit, it did receive very mixed reviews from critics.
Winnie: I think there was a general consensus that this movie had a Rohit Shetty trademark stamped
Winnie: all over it.
Winnie: So one review even mentioned that it wasn't about whether it was going to be a hit or
Winnie: not.
Winnie: It was about whether it was going to be a big hit or an enormous hit, because you have Shah
Winnie: Rukh Khan as the lead
Khilli: actor as
Winnie: well.
Winnie: So a lot of mixed reviews
Winnie: Some of the more positive reviews
Winnie: Kind of praised it for having all of the Bollywood elements
Winnie: Brings like the masala theme
Winnie: Where there's big action, there's drama, there's romance
Winnie: The songs were also quite well received
Winnie: Other reviews kind of
Winnie: Criticized it for being very predictable
Winnie: Very cliche, a bit of a bore
Winnie: And the one review that really
Winnie: Stuck out to me was
Winnie: Times of India, which gave the movie 3.5 out of 5
Winnie: Stars
Winnie: And kind of compared Shah Rukh Khan to Jim Carrey
Winnie: So that he was trying to like kind of evoke that kind of comedy.
Adam: Interesting.
Adam: One
Winnie: thing that a lot of reviewers did agree on was that Deepika really outshined Shah Rukh Khan.
Adam: Hmm.
Nicky: What
Winnie: do you think?
Adam: Do you think that?
Winnie: So I do think that.
Winnie: So this was when she was still kind of an up and coming star.
Winnie: I don't think she had established herself
Khilli: as a lead actress
Winnie: yet.
Winnie: And I think this movie kind of really drilled that in that she was capable of being a lead actress.
Winnie: she was a lot younger than shara khan as well but
Adam: that was my thing like in the movie she looks
Adam: she's very pretty and attractive but she looks so young but also like i think they kind of put it
Adam: they kind of put it in the film itself that shara khan is old
Winnie: exactly there's even one scene right
Winnie: where they i
Adam: read that here the actor is old like he's like oh he never had the experience because
Adam: he's old
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: Because of his grandfather, but he's old.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: So they kind of made it like, yeah.
Adam: Yeah, but so what?
Khilli: I mean, she's still very
Adam: young in the film.
Winnie: Actually, there's a review from India Today.
Winnie: It gave the movie three out of five stars.
Winnie: And it wrote, the good news first.
Winnie: Chennai expresses a pleasant and likable film in parts.
Winnie: The bad news is it does nothing for Shah Rukh Khan's indomitable star power
Winnie: except to tell us that he can still play a 40-year-old Rahul without faltering.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: So
Winnie: I think his age came into question as well.
Winnie: He's nearing 50 when this movie was filmed,
Adam: right?
And Deepika is in her early 20s.
Khilli: So some critics also just kind
Winnie: of talked about how...
Winnie: Yeah, it's not a Shah Rukh Khan movie.
Winnie: He's trying to prove that he's not aging,
Winnie: but they actually pick on it in the movie as well
Winnie: when Deepika points out that he's a bit old.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: He does come off as a loser in this film.
Adam: We talked about this.
Khilli: Yeah,
Adam: only at the end, he's
Adam: somehow...
Adam: Yeah, miraculously can...
Adam: He's whiny and he's
Adam: like, uh, he acts younger than he should.
Adam: And if he was really like a 40 year old is there
Khilli: portraying, like he'd
Adam: be the lamest 40 year old.
Adam: He's made like, he's like a stunted development.
Adam: The individual
Adam: Yeah
Adam: He's not like
Adam: An attractive person
Winnie: Some reviews also talk about
Winnie: How comedy is not
Winnie: His strongest suit
Winnie: And it kind of shows
Winnie: In that movie
Winnie: But because of the effort
Winnie: Like it still kind of
Winnie: Goes through
Winnie: Because
Adam: he has
Nicky: that
Nicky: Style power
Nicky: I have seen
Nicky: Shark's
Adam: Better comedy
Nicky: I don't know
Nicky: We've seen Happy New Year
Nicky: And look how that turned out
Adam: That was so funny
Adam: Yeah
Adam: Which one was funnier?
Adam: Shark Khan?
Like well
Adam: He's a good actor
Adam: He's a decent actor
Adam: So I think it's
Adam: It has to be
Adam: With the director
Adam: To make
Adam: A good comedy
Adam: Using him
Adam: I mean the Jim Carrey
Adam: Comparisons
Adam: I
Adam: mean
Adam: That's a stretch
Khilli: But are they saying
Khilli: That
Adam: he's
Winnie: trying to
Adam: be
Adam: Or that he is
Adam: That
Winnie: he's trying
Winnie: Like Jim Carrey
Winnie: Kind of comedy
Winnie: where it's in your face, it's straightforward
Winnie: it's like kind of what Nikki called Thai comedy
Winnie: it's just for the gags
Winnie: and so this one review from probably the most critical review
Winnie: who gave it 1 out of 5 stars
Winnie: My Yang Shakar of
Winnie: Dainik Baksar
Winnie: I don't know if you know this Kili
Adam: you've paid
Winnie: for the ticket, yes
Winnie: now just sit back and suffer
Winnie: Shara Khan yelps and squeaks and shrieks and bears fangs and pouts and, well, exhausts himself overcompensating at every step, despite nobody else in the film following this template.
Winnie: Wow.
Winnie: Yeah, I mean,
Nicky: that's true.
Nicky: I find that a little too brutal.
Winnie: But, you know, but we had the same sentiment while watching the movie, right?
Winnie: We were like, why is he being so whiny?
Winnie: Like, what's going on
Adam: here?
Adam: He feels out of place.
Adam: It does feel like a Thai Looney Tunes film.
Winnie: yeah sorry i mean
Adam: indian and feel like an indian looney tunes film right and
Winnie: you have that comedy
Winnie: that is like kind of caricature almost right which yeah i mean i also add still
Adam: visual appeal of it
Adam: referencing
Adam: a lot of bollywood films like we already seen that like bollywood film does that
Adam: right so it's referencing every time his previous films other people's like famous films and like
Adam: famous scenes all the time and making fun of that but yet kind of
Adam: trying to keep some grounded story around the thing.
Adam: So, yeah.
Adam: But with the Looney Tunes, you have, like, Bugs Bunny
Adam: kind of driving the whole thing, being
Adam: like...
Winnie: Shark Khan is Bugs Bunny.
Winnie: No, but he's not. This is my problem.
Khilli: Because he's,
Adam: like, winking to the audience.
Adam: He's being like, hey, I'm a stinker.
Adam: You know, Bugs Bunny is in control.
Adam: But in this...
Adam: Shah Rukh Khan is not in control at any point really in the movie.
Winnie: So you're just watching
Adam: a guy floundering the whole
Winnie: time.
Winnie: And I think that's why Deepika is seen to really have shined in this movie.
Winnie: Because you can almost see her kind of steering the plot in a way.
Winnie: And being the one who puts Shah Rukh Khan's character in check.
Adam: So maybe
Winnie: she shines a bit more.
Winnie: It's true.
Winnie: And it makes him look
Adam: even worse than a 20-year-old.
Winnie: Is being more
Adam: emotionally intelligent than this 40-year-old man.
Winnie: Yeah.
Adam: Yeah.
Winnie: And because this movie was such a big hit in the West, I do want to read a review from New York Times, right?
Winnie: It gained so much traction in the West as well.
Winnie: So Rachel Salts of the New York Times actually make the effort to review it.
Winnie: I don't know if she's ever watched any other Bollywood movies before, but she wrote,
Winnie: But she wrote,
Winnie: But the movie chugs along for most of its two hours and 20 minutes searching for comedy and characters in a frantically over plotted story.
Winnie: Which I think is a bit accurate, right?
Nicky: I wouldn't say it chugged along.
Winnie: I felt like
Nicky: I was thoroughly amused.
Adam: even
Winnie: during the intermission
Winnie: slapstick
humor
Adam: when the intermission hit
Adam: we were
Adam: I was like
Adam: we could have wrapped it up
Adam: by now
Adam: yeah
Winnie: yeah
Winnie: it felt
Adam: like a second story
Winnie: yeah I like the movie
Winnie: it was engaging
Winnie: but it definitely felt
Winnie: stretched out
Adam: and another thing is like
Adam: so this is
Adam: one of the Bollywood films
Adam: like
Adam: that's
Adam: Bollywood is kind of
Adam: popular in northern New
Khilli: York
Adam: india right so it's kind of addressing and involving chennai south india like
Khilli: yes tamil
Khilli: is
Adam: like tamil has a huge political history of like you know fighting against hindi imposition
Adam: in india like which is happening right now as well again so they they don't despise hindi
Adam: culture but like they are like actively politically fighting against like the hindi
Adam: imposition in all across
Adam: India. So this is like, okay,
Adam: the industry is
Adam: from the heartland of
Adam: Hindi language, the Bollywood
Adam: industry, right? It's because it's Hindi
Adam: films. And then they are kind of
Adam: going in Chennai and in its
Adam: territory. And it treats
Adam: Tamil...
Adam: the way Hollywood treats India, like,
Khilli: you know, like,
Adam: typical
Adam: those, oh, okay, like, Indian stuff, say, speak English, like,
Adam: like, so, and then, like, with
Adam: the head bubble and stuff, like, that's how, like,
Adam: Bollywood portrays Indians, right?
Adam: So, please break this down for me, because watching this as a foreigner,
Adam: I did not know what languages anyone was speaking, and I
Khilli: didn't know what any of the stereotypes were.
Adam: So, the whole gag was...
Adam: that they're speaking Tamil and he's speaking Hindi and no one understands each other.
Adam: That's why all the misunderstanding miscommunication happening, right?
Adam: And that's why they were like doing everything.
Adam: So why... so okay, when we talk about the plot, I'll go in detail more, but like overall...
Adam: So Deepika is from... Deepika's character is from Chennai, right?
Adam: But her Tamil is like bad.
Adam: It's not proper.
Khilli: And she
Adam: speaks, when she speaks Hindi or English, she brings in this fake accent that Northern
Adam: Indian people think that Tamils have.
Winnie: Very stereotypical.
Winnie: Yeah.
Winnie: So
Adam: it's like, oh, you will do it.
Adam: Like, people don't speak like that, but it's like, yeah, she brings that aesthetic to the
Adam: on the plate.
Adam: So that's what keeps on happening.
Winnie: She was also criticized for her fake Hindi accent.
Winnie: Yeah, yeah.
Winnie: That's what I'm saying.
Winnie: Right.
Winnie: When she's
Adam: speaking Hindi, she's using those, oh, that's how Tamils might speak Hindi if they speak Hindi.
Khilli: Mm-mm.
Adam: It's like
Adam: Yeah
Adam: That's the thing I'm saying
Adam: Like how Hollywood
Adam: Does to like
Adam: The Indian
Adam: Oh
Adam: Maybe that
Adam: So
Adam: She speaks Hindi
Adam: Properly in real life
Adam: Like
Adam: Indian actors
Adam: Like Indian ethnicity actors
Adam: In Hollywood
Adam: Speaks English properly
Adam: In their real life
Khilli: Right
Khilli: When they're asked
Khilli: To do the Indian accent
Adam: Yeah
Winnie: So this
Adam: is like, she's doing the Tamil accent of
Winnie: Hindi.
Winnie: Yeah, yeah.
Winnie: There was definitely a lot of criticism about the
Adam: movie,
Adam: like
Khilli: being very incisive
Adam: of South Indian
Winnie: culture.
Winnie: But to be honest,
Adam: like stereotyping is a part and parcel in India.
Adam: like all the film industry
Adam: it's not only Bollywood
Adam: but Bollywood is the big one
Adam: because that's why people
Adam: can attack it more
Adam: but all other industry also like
Adam: it's not very sensitive to us
Nicky: I mean look at Happy New Year
Nicky: North Koreans are kind of like
Nicky: portrayed as like Chinese-y
Adam: little
Winnie: people
Winnie: I mean
Adam: that has zero grasp on reality
Adam: with that one
Adam: so
Winnie: what were your all
Winnie: I mean we heard the critics' thoughts
Winnie: what were your all-over thoughts
Winnie: so actually I'm gonna go with
Nicky: Adam
Nicky: I mean like as a foreigner
Nicky: who's not Indian
Nicky: and
Winnie: It was hard to tell
Nicky: what languages were they saying,
Nicky: what, like, the dialects or
Khilli: the accents.
Khilli: But you understood
Adam: that they don't understand each other, right?
Adam: I
Adam: got that
Nicky: a little later, but then I had to ask Keely,
Nicky: like, oh, so are they not speaking the same language?
Adam: For
Nicky: me, I couldn't pick that up.
Nicky: It's a weird movie
Adam: to be an international hit
Adam: because it depends on you knowing these cultural differences.
Adam: And for us, it's all English subtitles.
Khilli: I
Adam: have no idea...
Adam: That they're speaking different languages. So like oh, that's a big part of the movie that's missing for me is
Adam: Tamil and Hindi similar. No, no, no,
Adam: they're totally completely different.
Adam: They don't share
Khilli: words or anything
Khilli: They
Adam: are similar vocabularies, but it would sound so different that you wouldn't even able to pick up that they said that those words
Adam: They might have some sort but in language group they fall totally under different language group like one is Indo
Adam: European language group and one is Diverian language group is
Winnie: One different language group
Winnie: Akili just told me
Winnie: Dada means
Adam: Brother
Adam: No that's in my language
Adam: That's Bengali
Adam: That's not Tamil
Winnie: It's okay
Khilli: Was
Adam: Were Tamil people
Adam: Angry about this film?
Adam: Was there any anger
Adam: Or racism?
Adam: They never give a
Adam: Flying fuck about
Adam: the film much
Adam: because they don't watch
Adam: like most of the time
Adam: is they don't watch
Adam: Bollywood film that
Adam: that well
Adam: so they're not like
Adam: but it's still a huge hit
Adam: no
Adam: I mean
Adam: so whenever I talked
Adam: spoke to my
Adam: most of my friends
Adam: they were like
Adam: oh I never watched it
Adam: and also
Adam: people who watched it
Adam: they're like
Adam: okay it's fine
Adam: I mean it's not
Adam: portraying us
Adam: properly
Winnie: Bollywood
Adam: does
Khilli: that all the time
Winnie: Times of India
Khilli: actually criticized
Winnie: they said the movie
Winnie: had too much Tamil
Winnie: for it to be qualified
Winnie: as a Bollywood film
Winnie: which makes it very difficult
Winnie: for Indians to watch it
Winnie: without subtitles
Winnie: like subtitles is a must
Winnie: no matter where you're from
Winnie: in India right
Winnie: but
Adam: there
Khilli: is
Adam: one point
Adam: like
Adam: so I was already
Adam: always thinking that
Adam: okay
Adam: he doesn't speak English
Adam: because he's like a sweet seller.
Adam: He might not know English,
Adam: but towards the end of the film,
Adam: he speaks in proper English,
Adam: like a few sentences
Adam: with the proper accent.
Adam: I'm like,
Adam: okay, like,
Adam: that could have solved the whole plot.
Adam: Like, if you were just speaking English
Adam: in Tamil Nadu,
Adam: like, because, like,
Adam: most of the people are like,
Winnie: like,
Adam: Looks like they would understand English.
Adam: Like at least the father of the...
Winnie: The
Adam: father of Deepika would understand English.
Winnie: But I'm glad that this movie was such a big hit internationally.
Winnie: Because I think people outside of India tend to think India is just this one country.
Winnie: Same ethnicity.
Winnie: You know, same culture.
Winnie: Same language.
Winnie: Everything.
Winnie: But there's over a hundred different languages.
Winnie: Probably even more, right?
Winnie: It's such a diverse land.
Adam: 23 official languages.
Adam: Right, right.
Winnie: So I think this movie at least might help raise awareness on this thing of like, yes, we can be from India, but if we're from the north or south, there's already such a big cultural barrier, a
Nicky: language barrier,
Winnie: all these things.
Nicky: I just think that maybe it might have helped if the subtitles did specify which language they were talking
Winnie: about.
Winnie: Yeah, for like a lot.
Winnie: Yeah,
Adam: for sure.
Khilli: It's
Winnie: a good thing we have Kili to always be the one like providing us context in these movies.
Winnie: Else we'd be lost.
Winnie: I thought the
Adam: movie was okay.
Adam: I just...
Adam: I thought Shaiwakhan was very weak in this.
Adam: Like, I thought he was not a leading man in this.
Adam: Like, look, even if Jim Carrey's in a comedy,
Adam: he still has, like, a leading man quality.
Adam: And Shaiwakhan's like...
Adam: has that capability but he just is so bumbling and weak and annoying in this that like i just
Adam: didn't really care or understand why deepika was into him at all it
Winnie: is very i couldn't follow it
Winnie: it's very difficult to think this is the same man that played joan
Adam: right we're so
Winnie: used to watching
Winnie: charlie khan play like this
Winnie: superhero, unbreakable kind of role.
Winnie: So it was nice to see him being a little wuss.
Adam: Or like charismatic or funny
Adam: or he's like super powerful.
Adam: But this one, he's like out of his element
Adam: the entire time.
Adam: He always makes the wrong decision.
Winnie: And he's kind of a selfish asshole.
Winnie: He's
Adam: a horrible person.
Adam: He's not nice.
Winnie: Yeah.
Adam: He like lies to his grandma
Adam: and...
Adam: He,
Nicky: like...
Winnie: Ditched his plans.
Adam: Yeah, he, like, he promises he's gonna
Adam: fling his grandpa's ashes somewhere,
Adam: but all he wants to do is go south
Adam: with his two buddies and, like, party.
Winnie: Oh, he wants to go to Goa, right?
Winnie: That's the thing.
Adam: So,
Winnie: actually, with that, let's get right to the
Nicky: plot.
Nicky: Yeah.
Nicky: Well, the first thing I wanted to mention
Nicky: was that, you know...
Nicky: The movie apparently seems to pay tribute to a lot of like old movies.
Nicky: Yeah,
Khilli: yeah, yeah.
Khilli: So like the one
Nicky: scene that you know both Winnie and Keely were pointing out was that there was a train scene
Nicky: which was like a spoof of this film
Nicky: DDLJ.
Nicky: I don't know how to pronounce it.
Nicky: DIL.
Nicky: That's it.
Nicky: It starred like Shahrukh Khan and Kajol in that one.
Nicky: Yeah.
Adam: And apparently
Nicky: this is an iconic scene.
Nicky: But I haven't seen it.
Nicky: Okay, so in the
Adam: final scene, it's like when the...
Adam: So that's a very...
Adam: It's a rom-com drama, like when the final...
Adam: At the end, the hero and the heroine gets together.
Adam: That's the scene where, like,
Adam: the Shah Rukh Khan is already leaving the town on the train.
Adam: And Kajol runs after him.
Adam: So the train has already started.
Adam: So Shah Rukh Khan lends the hand and grabs her to the train.
Adam: So that's the final scene where, like,
Adam: the hero and heroine meets...
Adam: with each other
Khilli: very iconic
Khilli: that's a very iconic
Adam: scene
Adam: so they do that
Adam: with Deepika
Adam: and then
Adam: three other men
Adam: he even does the
Adam: does the joke like
Adam: oh I have done this
Adam: many times
Nicky: I'll admit it was
Nicky: kind of funny
Nicky: when Keely explained it
Nicky: as it was happening
Adam: yeah that was a really
Adam: funny
Adam: one
Adam: I didn't think it was
Adam: kind of funny
Adam: and it was the same
Winnie: theme song
Winnie: again if
Adam: you reference
Adam: a better film
Adam: I would just be thinking about Kajul the whole time
Adam: and how much I wish it was
Winnie: Kajul in this film
Winnie: Adam and Nikki are both big fans of
Khilli: Kajul
Khilli: I want Kajul inserted
Adam: into any movie
Adam: just replace Deepika
Adam: it's okay
Adam: I love Deepika too
Winnie: Deepika is definitely one of the hottest now
Adam: she's very very pretty
Adam: the comedy
Nicky: let's touch upon the comedy first
Nicky: because I think that's very important
Nicky: so yeah we had the train scene
Nicky: in the beginning where Shah Rukh Khan
Nicky: missed the platform
Nicky: But because he had to help
Nicky: You know
Nicky: The
Nicky: Deepika
Nicky: And those men
Nicky: And then like
Nicky: You have this like
Nicky: Extended scene
Nicky: Where he's kind of like
Nicky: Confronting
Nicky: Confronting these men
Nicky: About
Nicky: You know
Nicky: What's happening
Nicky: And like
Nicky: You know
Nicky: You have this whole
Nicky: Drawn out comedy scene
Nicky: Where he wants to like
Nicky: complain to them
Nicky: but they know
Nicky: these men were like
Nicky: seen as dangerous
Nicky: and then you see
Nicky: like Shah Rukh Khan
Nicky: uh
Nicky: going back to being
Nicky: a wuss
Khilli: and like
Nicky: like there's a lot of
Nicky: comedic elements
Nicky: like where he like
Nicky: moves into like
Nicky: the upper bunk
Nicky: of the train
Nicky: or something
Nicky: and then like
Khilli: he makes
Nicky: a lot of like
Nicky: you know
Nicky: whiny noises
Nicky: like
Nicky: like what Adam said
Nicky: he's
Adam: scared the whole time
Adam: of everything
Winnie: but like comically scared
Winnie: I
Nicky: can imagine
Nicky: that maybe
Nicky: maybe it would be funny
Nicky: if I really understood
Nicky: what he's saying
Nicky: but to me
Nicky: it just kind of felt like
Adam: was it cool though
Adam: this is why I keep asking
Adam: if it's cool
Adam: like he's not cool in this
Adam: he's
Adam: not cool
Adam: but he's being
Adam: him being
Adam: a scared
Adam: man
Adam: is
Khilli: kind of
Khilli: is it funny
Adam: yeah I mean
Khilli: was
Adam: it funny
Adam: that they
Adam: so
Adam: I kind of liked it
Adam: because
Adam: in Hollywood
Adam: in Bollywood films
Adam: like we always
Adam: expect the hero
Adam: to like
Adam: always fight
Adam: the bad guys
Adam: right
Khilli: right up
Adam: front
Adam: Speaking of the film.
Adam: Right off the bat.
Adam: Okay.
Adam: And be like very assertive and stuff like that.
Adam: But here he was kind of trying to portray that he's very assertive and very ballsy guy to stand up to them.
Adam: But in reality, he's not.
Khilli: And that
Adam: was coming out as a comedy.
Adam: So
Adam: I kind of like that.
Adam: And briefly, what is his job?
Adam: Nikki at the start said he was a sweet seller.
Adam: And he's referenced like that throughout as like a demeaning
Khilli: kind of pejorative.
Adam: Like you're like a...
Nicky: But he
Adam: seems very well off.
Adam: I had to look it up
Adam: It was a middle class thing
Nicky: Yeah
Nicky: I think
Adam: it's similar
Adam: to like
Adam: Those
Adam: What film were you watching?
Adam: Like where the middle class people
Adam: Were like
Adam: Look very rich
Adam: The last movie we watched
Adam: The
Khilli: Nadania
Adam: Yeah
Winnie: So
Adam: So it's the same thing, right?
Adam: But he's supposed to be like a street seller.
Winnie: Well, when you say Halawai,
Winnie: you would imagine somebody who literally stands in the street
Winnie: with
Khilli: a little stall and sells.
Khilli: But he has a proper shop.
Khilli: That's
Winnie: shown in the beginning.
Winnie: He has like a shop that I think is passed on from his family,
Khilli: right?
Khilli: So
Winnie: it's not like street seller.
Winnie: He's a bakery owner, you can say.
Winnie: Yeah.
Khilli: So he has
Adam: a proper shop, but...
Adam: I think Halwai used to be like, you know,
Adam: those kind of comic relief actors in like older drama
Adam: kind of stuff.
Adam: So that's why I think the angle of the character,
Adam: like so when you associate the Halwai,
Adam: like the sweet seller to a man,
Adam: you cannot imagine that character to be a masochistic
Khilli: yeah yeah
Winnie: like
Adam: a alpha male
Khilli: kind of dude
Adam: so you
Adam: kind of associate that as a comedy like a funny guy like you know like who can be part of the joke
Khilli: and that's what he's trying to portray in the movie so that's
Adam: what so associate associating halwa
Adam: i think is kind of bring that aspect to his character that okay he's not like a macho man he's like a
Adam: sweet seller
Adam: because he doesn't stop bragging about his 35 000 rupee nokia
Khilli: well
Adam: actually
Winnie: we should talk about that because in the beginning of the movie there were like
Khilli: probably almost
Winnie: a minute of sponsors and
Khilli: sponsors right and
Winnie: like throughout the movie we were just
Winnie: talking about all the ads that popped up nokia being one of them pepsi another one
Nicky: there's so many
Khilli: the
Nicky: videocon tv
Nicky: Yeah, that was a
Winnie: lot of that.
Winnie: Half of
Nicky: it's a commercial.
Nicky: But the way he, like,
Nicky: talks about the phone,
Nicky: my God, man,
Nicky: it is, like,
Nicky: the most
Khilli: commercial-laden...
Khilli: Even the phone
Adam: had
Adam: such a nice product shot,
Adam: like, when it's thrown...
Adam: Okay, Nikki, look at this.
Nicky: Yeah, what happened to
this phone?
Nicky: Yeah, like,
Nicky: it was during the comedy scene,
Nicky: like, the whole train banter
Nicky: between him and the captors.
Nicky: Basically, he, like...
Nicky: took out this phone and we get this shot.
Nicky: It was a commercial.
Adam: It's like something out of a
Nicky: commercial.
Nicky: This is so
Adam: funny because...
Adam: Okay, okay.
Adam: Movies take years to make.
Adam: And then they come out, right?
Adam: And phones get released every year.
Adam: So the amount of money they...
Adam: spend to advertise this one
Adam: model of Nokia cell phone
Adam: and they probably went bankrupt the next
Adam: year because like Nokia was like
Adam: going down the drain like how many
Adam: people do they think would buy that phone model
Adam: based off because like
Adam: you see movies we're seeing it now like
Adam: 20 years later 10 years later but
Adam: like I just don't think advertising a phone
Adam: is smart because that
Adam: has like a year
Adam: of
Adam: shelf life it's like associating
Adam: your brand name with with the
Adam: huge hit
Adam: film is
Khilli: also
Khilli: a thing
Adam: but it's for
Adam: the model
Adam: they were
Adam: he was
Adam: advertising
Adam: that specific
Adam: Lumia model
Adam: the Windows
Adam: OS
Adam: Nokia Lumia
Adam: model
Adam: I was a fan
Adam: of Nokia
Adam: I
Adam: think
Adam: everyone
Adam: was it
Adam: one point
Adam: no Nokia
Adam: even Lumia
Adam: I was a big fan
Adam: I just miss Snake
Winnie: I miss playing
Winnie: the Snake
Khilli: game
Khilli: on Nokia
Khilli: right
Winnie: there's so many
Winnie: Snake games
Winnie: on like the app store
Winnie: for iPhones
Winnie: but it's not the same
Khilli: golden era of Nokia
Khilli: yeah
Khilli: I do like
Adam: the
Adam: diminishing period
Adam: like when
Adam: they made the smartphone Lumia.
Winnie: I just like being able to
Winnie: throw it against the wall
Winnie: and nothing happens
Winnie: because it's
Adam: indestructible.
Adam: And the battery lasts for a week.
Adam: Right.
Adam: I think that's what
Adam: they were kind of shown in the...
Adam: I was expecting that kind of
Adam: product ad in the app
Khilli: Sorry I have to play Snake for a second
Khilli: It's
Adam: on the
Adam: Railway station
Adam: And their friends are calling for a week
Adam: And it's still running on battery
Khilli: I was expecting that kind of an
Adam: ad
Nicky: That would have been smarter
Nicky: But instead the
Winnie: South Indian gang
Winnie: Just threw it out the train
Nicky: R
Winnie: .I.P. Nokia
Nicky: Yeah
Nicky: And then he also
Nicky: They also threw out
Nicky: That man
Nicky: The train ticket guy
Khilli: Ticket ticket
Winnie: I don't know
Winnie: That was funny
Winnie: I don't know
Winnie: You guys
Winnie: Well obviously
Winnie: I find it funny
Winnie: They did just
Nicky: Toss him in the river
Adam: They just tossed
Nicky: him
Nicky: To show him
Nicky: Who's business
Nicky: I guess
Adam: I think
Adam: That's the reason
Adam: Why they captured
Adam: Shah Rukh Khan
Adam: As well
Adam: Because he's
Adam: The
Adam: I mean, he's the witness of what they did to the ticket checker guy.
Winnie: Yeah, exactly.
Winnie: That's the
Adam: main plot point that why they carried Shah Rukh Khan back to their village.
Winnie: Basically, the train guy met the same fate as the Nokia.
Winnie: They both got thrown out the train.
Winnie: That's crazy.
Winnie: Yeah.
Adam: I was looking at pictures of behind the scenes footage and the Shah Rukh Khan on the train part...
Adam: is all on green screen.
Winnie: Yes.
Khilli: But like even
Adam: outside the train,
Adam: he's like, you know,
Adam: grabbing her hand and stuff.
Adam: And my friend asked like,
Adam: why don't they just film
Adam: in a real train station?
Adam: And you said,
Adam: because he's like too big
Adam: of a star or something.
Adam: I think it would be like
Adam: almost a very huge production
Adam: to like
Winnie: pull off
Adam: with him
Adam: in a very
Winnie: big movie.
Winnie: It would have to be hired actors.
Winnie: They would not be able to pull it off with commoners.
Winnie: I don't
Khilli: think it would have to be a whole set.
Adam: The logistics of carrying such a big star to execute the shoot in a railway station.
Adam: Because in a railway station you have to block a busy railway station.
Adam: station to pull it out
Winnie: yeah but
Adam: people have done that before
Winnie: it's such a missed opportunity though
Winnie: because chaya chaya chaya was also shaharakan
Adam: on a train real train on top of a real train and so
Adam: they should have done this
Winnie: with the movie they made all these references to past movies and they
Winnie: missed out on that one i'm really glad
Adam: that they didn't refer to that because that's
Winnie: really
Adam: i love that
Adam: that song
Adam: and then that film
Khilli: yeah
Khilli: in
Winnie: the 90s
Winnie: there was another
Winnie: big
Adam: hit
Adam: what
Winnie: was it
Winnie: 2000s
Winnie: okay
Winnie: big hit
Winnie: with Shara Khan on the train
Winnie: and a famous song
Adam: how do they now
Adam: reference that then
Adam: that's
Winnie: the thing right
Winnie: they reference DDLJ
Winnie: because
Adam: he was
Adam: on the top of the train
Winnie: right
Adam: but on these trains
Adam: he cannot go on the top
Adam: maybe
Adam: maybe he could go
Adam: on the top bunk
Adam: and do that song
Winnie: with the urn
Winnie: with his grandfather's
Winnie: ashes
Winnie: yeah
Winnie: So how did the journey
Winnie: To his grandfather's ashes
Winnie: Another
Nicky: thing
Nicky: I still need to point out
Nicky: It's like
Nicky: The thing that we mentioned earlier
Nicky: Is that
Nicky: The use of different languages
Nicky: Right
Nicky: That is also part of the comedy
Nicky: Yeah
Khilli: Very big
Khilli: So when
Nicky: When Shah Rukh Khan meets
Nicky: Like D
Nicky: They're like singing all these songs
Nicky: And I later found out
Nicky: They're actually parodies
Khilli: Of all those songs
Khilli: Never would have picked up
Khilli: I didn't know that at all
Khilli: Yeah, I would not have picked that up
Khilli: So
Adam: what they were doing
Adam: Is like they were singing
Adam: So that the people
Adam: Her captors
Adam: Or her father's goon
Adam: Think that they're just singing
Adam: singing songs, but what they were doing is like they were putting on the message in the
Adam: song in Hindi so that they can communicate about what to do about the situation.
Adam: And while the other guys, the other Tamil guys, the goons, thinks that they are just singing
Adam: songs.
Adam: So
Khilli: that's what they did.
Adam: To be honest, the funny thing, like one of my friend, like Russian friend, Nastia, like she was saying that one of the guy, one of her friends from Indian film industry, like they were saying that, okay, they used to do that kind of thing in Bollywood film when...
Adam: during british period like they would put a lot of messages like cryptic messages and stuff in in
Adam: in in songs and she was asking me like do you know about this i was like no i don't know
Adam: she couldn't explain me properly but she was asking me that and then i just i just remember and
Adam: then they roe chatti uses that thing in the film i don't know if they are connected or then they're
Adam: just by chance
Adam: no i highly doubt it it's just a funny bit yeah but
Adam: i think like that's what they
Adam: were doing like they were just trying to sing songs so that's why they were using like popular
Adam: songs so that like the people think
Adam: like
Khilli: oh they're just singing the songs we just didn't know it's
Adam: popular songs
Adam: i thought we
Adam: thought i thought they were making them up as they went along
Adam: no no they
Adam: were always singing like popular songs and many times many times the songs from their own films
Nicky: So yeah, that was another thing that I guess would have flew over our heads as
Khilli: international
Winnie: viewers.
Adam: I also didn't know it took place in India.
Adam: It would have been nice if someone told me.
Winnie: I mean, it's called Chennai
Nicky: Express.
Adam: Well, you know, I don't know.
Adam: I don't
Nicky: know what those words mean.
Nicky: He didn't know the name of his mom or something.
Nicky: I don't know.
Nicky: Okay, so...
Nicky: You know, another thing that Adam mentioned that I think deserves a mention is that there is a lot of moments that you can tell is green screened.
Khilli: When they're
Nicky: traveling in a car, when they're like, like Adam said, when they're on the train.
Nicky: And there's also a lot of use of transitions.
Khilli: Yeah.
Khilli: Like
Nicky: that's one thing that I noticed a lot that I just felt the need to mention it now.
Nicky: And then, you know, like remember in the opening shot where there's like a CGI mansion and then like it zooms in around.
Adam: Oh yeah, I was getting nauseated.
Adam: It feels like the guy
Adam: watched Fight Club and he just wanted to be David Fincher and do all these one shots with CGI.
Adam: CG and stuff.
Winnie: There were actual scenes
Winnie: where it just looked like
Winnie: the whole scenery
Winnie: was animation.
Adam: Like,
Khilli: full-on animation.
Khilli: Yeah.
Adam: Yeah, I have seen
Adam: that aesthetic
Adam: in this guy's film a lot.
Khilli: Oh, his Shati.
Adam: Where he kind of
Adam: tries to make, like,
Adam: a very cartoony feel
Adam: to the land he's, like...
Adam: the set
Adam: sometimes it's
Adam: work
Adam: sometimes it's
Adam: just a mishmash
Adam: of like
Adam: being realistic
Adam: and
Adam: like those
Adam: animation
Adam: like
Adam: back
Adam: like side by side
Adam: doesn't match
Adam: together
Adam: so what
Adam: what do you guys
Adam: feel in this film
Adam: like was it
Adam: that that
Adam: that aesthetic
Winnie: was
Winnie: I feel like Bollywood just goes to extreme.
Winnie: You have movies where they're flying to Switzerland, New Zealand,
Winnie: just to take videos for one
Khilli: song.
Khilli: And then you
Winnie: have full-on movies where they're just using CGI to make it look animated.
Winnie: I don't know why there can't be a middle ground.
Adam: It's really funny that they're like, this is a train in India.
Adam: We need to green screen this.
Adam: But the other movie is like, we're going to fly to New Zealand for this one shot at the park.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: I love the
Adam: spot where they stop the train to get down
Adam: because there was no station where her
Khilli: village is, right?
Khilli: Oh yeah, the waterfall.
Khilli: That
Adam: was a really
Khilli: nice
Winnie: spot.
Winnie: Oh, actually that's a pretty big scene, right?
Winnie: I don't think that's a green
Adam: screen. I think that's a real place and real shot.
Winnie: Yeah, so what happens at the waterfall?
Winnie: The waterfall,
Nicky: so like, you know, because Shah Rukh Khan misses his stop, he decides to go.
Nicky: to tag along with Deepika and the
Adam: four
Nicky: henchmen.
Nicky: And they stop by this spot where they're like...
Nicky: They meet the girl's father,
Nicky: and he's like this mafia kingpin kind of guy.
Nicky: And she tells him, you know, Deepika's character tells him
Nicky: that this is her new lover.
Nicky: She was just, you know, escaping the forced marriage
Nicky: to get with shahru khan and again this is what ensues is that the whole comedy bit is that like
Nicky: shahru khan does not it does not have a a good understanding of the tamil language
Nicky: so he gets into a lot of like misunderstanding
Nicky: Like the guy that he has to duel with, he agrees to a duel with the soon-to-be-husband, right?
Nicky: And then there's also like, you know, while that was happening, right?
Nicky: Shah Rukh Khan needs to concoct an escape plan.
Nicky: And I think one of the scenes that gave me a good laugh was like the one where he writes the note, meet me at the storeroom.
Khilli: Yeah.
Khilli: That was a good gag.
Khilli: That
Adam: was a good
Nicky: gag, you know, because like you get this whole misunderstanding between characters picking up the notes.
Nicky: And it's done in a very like smooth comedic way that I, you know, I'll admit that was pretty.
Nicky: nice
Adam: explain the gag explain it's funny it's
Nicky: like he writes meet me in the storeroom but then like
Nicky: he throws he tries to throw shark kind of tries to throw the note to deepika but then it lands
Nicky: somewhere else for like some other woman picks it up and then when she picks it up and reads the note
Nicky: like she just looks up and sees that whatever the person she sees she thinks that that's the guy
Nicky: that threw the note so like for this this
Nicky: girl with the glasses this case she was looking at one of the henchmen and then like you get this
Nicky: like comedic moment where they she looks at him like lovingly and he looks back and they think
Nicky: she believes that he he sent her the note but then like uh i think someone bumps into her or
Nicky: something where she she throws away the note basically just
Adam: like they keep reading it and
Adam: then like winking at the person and then they themselves crumple it up and toss it for some
Adam: reason and
Nicky: then someone else picks
Adam: it up and thinks it's for them
Nicky: yeah
Nicky: and then like
Nicky: Adam was saying
Nicky: you know it would be so funny
Nicky: if they all ended up
Nicky: in the storeroom
Nicky: and they actually
Adam: did
Adam: so it
Nicky: paid off
Nicky: we thought they were
Adam: going to just leave it
Adam: but they all show up
Adam: in the storeroom
Adam: for a big
Adam: suck and fuck orgy
Adam: that
Nicky: wasn't expected
Nicky: but it was so funny
Nicky: they ended up there
Nicky: and then they realized
Nicky: it was a misunderstanding
Nicky: and then they just leave
Nicky: like there was
Adam: no
Adam: consequence to that
Adam: it was just all done
Nicky: because it happens
Adam: all the
Adam: time in that village
Adam: everyone always meets up
Adam: in the storeroom
Adam: for the weekly orgy
Nicky: laughing
Nicky: yeah that's that
Nicky: but yeah he
Nicky: back to the plot like Shah Rukh Khan
Nicky: agrees to duel right but then like
Nicky: in order to prove that he's
Nicky: like the
Nicky: future husband
Nicky: like I think he
Nicky: he engages in a lot of drinking the night
Nicky: before
Khilli: the duel
Khilli: every fucking
Adam: sorry every Shah Rukh Khan
Adam: movie has a fake drunk scene
Winnie: Dave does
Winnie: yeah that's true
Winnie: and happy
Adam: new year
Adam: And every single thing we've seen, there's always a really over-the-top fake drunk scene.
Adam: I think he's just...
Adam: Before the fight, they bring some woman to
Adam: dance.
Adam: Which is
Adam: not at all common.
Adam: I haven't seen that kind of
Adam: dance
Winnie: in Tamil reference
Khilli: at all.
Khilli: At
Winnie: first, I thought it was Deepika.
Winnie: It took me a while
Adam: to realize it's not
Khilli: her.
Khilli: This
Adam: is very
Winnie: common in
Adam: Hindi films.
Adam: They call it item number.
Adam: like where
Adam: where like a sexy
Adam: woman like dances
Khilli: yeah that is true
Khilli: amongst the
Adam: men
Adam: and stuff like that
Adam: it keeps on happening
Adam: well it's the
Adam: woman's
Adam: fault that the guy
Adam: is looking
Adam: but like
Khilli: yeah
Khilli: in this
Adam: here like
Khilli: he's doing
Adam: it
Adam: and I think
Adam: Shah Rukh Khan gets
Adam: drunk because at
Adam: that point he's not
Adam: still in love with
Adam: Deepika he just
Adam: gets horny about
Adam: that girl
Adam: woman, I guess.
Adam: Yeah, he gets very drunk
Adam: and horny
Adam: because this
Adam: girl's dancing.
Adam: Wait,
Khilli: I don't
Adam: think
Winnie: there was any chemistry
Winnie: between them.
Winnie: I feel like it was
Winnie: just a filler scene, right?
Adam: He's just drinking
Adam: because he has
Winnie: a face-off,
Winnie: a fight with the
Winnie: to-be
Adam: -husband
Adam: of Deepika.
Adam: No, he was supposed
Adam: to fly, like,
Adam: he was supposed to
Adam: run away with Deepika,
Adam: not fight.
Adam: That's
Khilli: not the point.
Khilli: That was
Winnie: their plan.
Winnie: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Winnie: He was just having fun.
Winnie: Shurkan likes to dance.
Winnie: Let the man dance.
Winnie: Yeah, and he
Adam: started
Adam: drinking and dancing
Adam: and
Khilli: totally forgetting
Khilli: about the
Winnie: plan
Adam: they chalked out
Adam: and then...
Winnie: I mean it kind of adds up to all his like character traits
Winnie: Right he's just dumb
Winnie: Not strategic
Adam: Yeah he keeps getting
Winnie: into
Adam: situations
Adam: That he causes
Adam: He causes all these problems for himself
Adam: Because he's stupid
Winnie: And then he blames Deepika for it
Adam: And then
Winnie: like runs back to her
Winnie: And then she likes him
Winnie: This is
Adam: my issue
Adam: She's like I want to marry you
Adam: Even though like you make life bad
Adam: For me
Adam: Life sucks
Adam: She wants
Adam: him to make him into a better person
Adam: person.
Adam: So it's up to the
Adam: 20 year old to make
Adam: the older man
Adam: a
Adam: better
Khilli: person?
Khilli: I can fix it.
Khilli: What are you
Adam: referencing?
Adam: Who's 20
Winnie: here?
Winnie: What are you
Winnie: referencing to Adam?
Adam: I'm not referencing
Adam: anything I know.
Adam: I'm just saying is
Adam: that a normal thing?
Adam: I don't know.
Adam: Can that happen?
Adam: What a
Adam: sleep
Winnie: totally asleep
Winnie: huh
Winnie: so like
Nicky: yeah
Nicky: right
Nicky: Kili said that
Nicky: like he was
Nicky: supposed to
Nicky: run away
Nicky: with Deepika
Nicky: right
Nicky: but the night
Nicky: before he gets
Nicky: super drunk
Nicky: with this
Nicky: woman dancer
Khilli: yeah
Khilli: that
Nicky: we all
Nicky: thought was Deepika
Nicky: but apparently
Nicky: some cameo
Nicky: that I
Nicky: I didn't catch
Nicky: her name
Nicky: I don't know
Nicky: if you know
Khilli: but like
Khilli: what do you guys
Khilli: think
Nicky: about that
Nicky: song
Nicky: that song
Nicky: you said it was
Nicky: a hit right
Nicky: do you
Adam: remember the song
Nicky: I
Adam: think it was
Adam: kind of
Adam: more or less
Adam: the songs of this film
Adam: what was the
Winnie: song
Winnie: is that Lungi Lungi Dance
Winnie: no no
Winnie: Lungi Dance was
Adam: the title track
Adam: at the end
Khilli: do you remember the song
Khilli: no
Adam: but I
Adam: when I listen to it
Adam: I remember
Adam: one two three four get on the dance
Khilli: floor
Khilli: one two
Winnie: three four get on the
Khilli: dance floor
Khilli: that song
Adam: used to irritate me a lot
Adam: when I was around that area
Adam: around those years because they used to
Adam: play that song like in loud volume
Adam: everywhere and I used to get
Nicky: so pissed
Nicky: Big
Winnie: wedding song too
Winnie: So yeah
Nicky: He gets fake drunk
Nicky: And he like
Nicky: Makes an ass
Nicky: Makes an ass of himself
Nicky: In front of everybody
Nicky: As one would
Nicky: Wow
Nicky: Every single scene
Nicky: And then like
Nicky: He runs
Nicky: You get like this chase scene
Nicky: Where he like
Nicky: Runs off a motorbike
Nicky: And like
Nicky: Doing all these crazy stunts
Nicky: Out of the blue
Nicky: Which was kind of funny
Nicky: But he meets like
Nicky: He enlists the help of this
Nicky: Punjabi guy
Adam: Yeah
Adam: So he
Adam: He runs away with like
Adam: like,
Adam: showing
Adam: massive,
Adam: like,
Adam: motorbike skills
Adam: and then he just
Adam: falls up
Adam: side of
Khilli: the
Nicky: screen.
Nicky: That was weird.
Adam: After a while.
Adam: Like,
Adam: he just,
Adam: just
Adam: crashes.
Nicky: Yeah,
Nicky: so in this movie,
Nicky: Shah Rukh Khan has moments
Nicky: of, like,
Nicky: goofiness
Nicky: and then he'll be,
Nicky: like,
Nicky: a badass for,
Nicky: like,
Nicky: four to five minutes
Nicky: whenever he's
Winnie: on wheels
Winnie: like every time he's on a bike
Winnie: or in a car
Winnie: he actually turns into
Winnie: a badass
Nicky: and also the final fight scene
Winnie: yeah but on feet
Winnie: he's
Nicky: oh yeah
Khilli: the final fight scene
Nicky: becomes a heroic superhero
Nicky: action
Adam: star
Winnie: Jawan is
Khilli: born
Khilli: which we call
Khilli: Jawan's
Nicky: origin story
Nicky: yeah
Adam: You're right. He is like fast and furious. Like it's only in a car that he can do anything.
Adam: Yeah, so his Punjabi Buddhist friend?
Adam: Yeah, actually, who
Winnie: introduces himself by saying,
Winnie: Which, according
Nicky: to Winnie, is like a very like stereotypical thing for a Punjabi man.
Nicky: So that's what this
Adam: film does. It stereotypes
Khilli: every other ethnicity
Adam: in India.
Adam: Like, so it...
Adam: it like stereotypes
Adam: the Punjabis
Adam: stereotypes
Adam: the Tamers
Adam: like
Winnie: ballet is a type of dance
Winnie: that Punjabis do
Winnie: but I can assure
Adam: you
Adam: I don't think most Punjabis
Winnie: are going around
Winnie: saying hi
Winnie: you know
Winnie: my name is
Winnie: Sing Sing whatever
Winnie: ballet ballet
Khilli: like that's
Winnie: not part
Winnie: of the normal
Adam: introduction
Khilli: for
Punjabis
Adam: - It's just the weirdest thing.
Adam: - It's like when Michael Jackson did that
Adam: doesn't matter if you're black and white
Adam: and it's just a whole music video of stereotypes
Adam: that are really
Khilli: offensive on the screen.
Adam: Like anytime someone tries to be like culturally accepting,
Adam: they tend to be the most offensive.
Adam: So this is like
Adam: It's a small world in India
Nicky: It's a small world
Nicky: But then like
Nicky: The Punjabi guy
Nicky: Helps Shahrukh Khan
Nicky: Into like a boat
Nicky: Or
Khilli: something
Khilli: And then he ends
Nicky: up
Nicky: In international waters
Khilli: Sri Lanka smuggling
Khilli: Sri Lankan
Winnie: The
Nicky: Sri Lankan army
Nicky: Like arrest him
Nicky: I'm
Khilli: the captain now
Adam: Indian
Winnie: area.
Winnie: He was trying to prove he's Indian, not Sri Lankan.
Adam: Is
Nicky: that
Winnie: a weird...
Winnie: Is that another stereotype?
Winnie: They were Sri Lankan smugglers.
Khilli: Pirates, right?
Khilli: They were like pirates
Winnie: or something.
Adam: They were not...
Adam: It was not explicit whether they were Sri Lankans or Indians.
Adam: They were just saying that they were going to Sri Lanka to
Khilli: buy diesel.
Khilli: Yeah.
Khilli: Like
Adam: diesel, like, yeah, fuel.
Adam: And then come back to India to sell it.
Adam: Because, like, maybe it was...
Adam: cheaper in
Adam: Sri Lanka
Adam: so that's
Adam: what they're
Adam: smuggling
Khilli: so
Adam: yeah
Adam: so yeah
Adam: and Shahrukh
Adam: strives to
Adam: prove when
Adam: confronted with
Adam: the police
Adam: that like
Adam: he's not
Adam: part of
Adam: them
Adam: he's an
Adam: Indian
Adam: like a
Adam: patriotic
Nicky: Indian
Adam: and stuff like
Adam: that yeah he starts doing weird racist stereotypes
Adam: in front of
Adam: the police see i'm
Adam: not like that i'm like
Adam: this i don't have
Khilli: squinty eyes i'm not dark skin
Adam: look at
Adam: my white indian
Khilli: skin
Adam: there
Nicky: was a scene where they like stopped by like this really green
Nicky: foresty area
Khilli: and
Nicky: then they lose the car right like the car in the lake you
Nicky: Remember that?
Adam: And another car explodes.
Adam: I got time.
Nicky: There was also, yeah, the action scenes are so...
Nicky: They had to have a car
Adam: explosion for the trailer,
Adam: so it had to
Nicky: occur in the movie,
Adam: but there's no reason for it.
Adam: They're like just driving down a muddy
Khilli: road.
Nicky: So you get this weird scene where they,
Nicky: Shah Rukh Khan and Deepika are arguing,
Nicky: and then like they go their separate ways.
Nicky: for a while and i'm gonna mention this next scene where you know it kind of stuck out like a sore
Nicky: thumb but i'm gonna try my best to imitate it but like he meets a certain character and he goes
Nicky: something like yeah yeah like what's up with that who's that dwarf character what is the point
Adam: of
Adam: that i don't i don't understand it just raises so many questions
Khilli: it
Adam: was like a munchkin land thing
Winnie: that character have you guys watched harold and kumar
Winnie: The kid in the basement?
Adam: Yeah, was that a reference?
Adam: He
Adam: just reminded me of that
Winnie: kid in the basement
Winnie: who is the product of an incest couple.
Adam: Holy lord.
Adam: He just
Winnie: didn't get so hard.
Adam: Well, it was like, look how genetically fucked up
Adam: these southern towns people are,
Adam: but we can still be friends with them.
Winnie: And they
Khilli: just
Winnie: go live in a forest.
Winnie: It's kind of giving me weird vibes.
Adam: Look at these, look at these, like...
Adam: yeah I thought
Adam: it's
Adam: like
Adam: spirited away
Adam: forest creature
Adam: I thought it's like
Adam: God in disguise
Adam: time like
Adam: you know
Adam: later it will
Adam: come into play
Adam: like the
Adam: character
Adam: will come save
Adam: or something
Winnie: nothing
Winnie: it's a cheap laugh
Winnie: cheap laugh attempt
Winnie: that's all
Winnie: yeah
Nicky: and then like
Nicky: Shah Rukh Khan
Nicky: just goes back
Nicky: to the spot
Nicky: where he separated
Nicky: with Deepika
Nicky: and then they
Nicky: continue their
Nicky: adventure together
Nicky: so he meets
Adam: this
Adam: truck driver who says like
Adam: the whole
Khilli: southern
Adam: India
Adam: is like looking for
Khilli: you
Khilli: because of this
Adam: one thing he did
Adam: in this village and then
Adam: that's why he's like he goes
Adam: back to Deepika for this and he's like
Adam: okay only you can help me
Winnie: so after like accusing of
Winnie: Deepika for being the source of his problem
Winnie: so many times
Khilli: saying that
Winnie: anytime she's involved it makes
Winnie: his life a whole disaster
Winnie: he still keeps going back
Winnie: back to her. Yeah. Over and over again.
Winnie: And she keeps taking him back over and over
Winnie: again.
Nicky: Yeah. Willingly.
Nicky: Willingly.
Nicky: So then they walk together and they stumble
Nicky: upon this village where
Nicky: I don't know who are those
Nicky: people, but...
Nicky: but Deepika manages to tell them
Nicky: that they're a married couple
Nicky: and that's where they laid low
Nicky: for the time being
Nicky: and then you get like
Nicky: I guess we all have this iconic scene
Nicky: you know we were all talking about it
Nicky: it's where they were like to prove
Nicky: that he can take care of Deepika
Nicky: for all of their lives
Nicky: like Shah Rukh Khan has to like
Nicky: go to this shrine that has like 300 like it's like a long flights of stairs it's like
Khilli: 300 steps
Khilli: and
Nicky: he has to like carry her up there to prove her love prove their love
Adam: or something
Adam: it's supposed to be
Adam: a normal ritual she says we're like this is what the town does
Adam: all the guys carry a woman up like
Adam: 300 stairs getting like
Adam: like absolutely bonkers horny while being the while sharukhan
Winnie: yeah that's a scene where like
Winnie: you can see she visibly falls in love with him she gets horny
Adam: i guess it's all the pheromones
Adam: of his sweat and he puts the thing on her forehead the
Winnie: the the the sindhu
Adam: the vermilion that's like
Adam: uh that's at the top that's which like a
Nicky: sign of like a marriage she's
Winnie: in love
Winnie: Or lust.
Adam: Yeah, I think both.
Nicky: All favor and horniness? Aye, okay.
Nicky: A gender
Winnie: divide. How surprising.
Winnie: You have to go there, Winnie.
Winnie: No,
Adam: Winnie's right.
Adam: She learned a lot about his personality during the flight of stairs walk.
Adam: All right.
Winnie: Well, apparently there were no fear of stairs in this movie.
Winnie: 300 stairs.
Winnie: Ooh, nobody
Khilli: died of that.
Khilli: Hell yeah.
Adam: You could have dropped
Nicky: her.
Nicky: She said it.
Nicky: She said the thing.
Nicky: Okay.
Nicky: So anyway, the...
Nicky: Deepika's family manages to catch up to them
Nicky: To this village
Nicky: I don't know how
Winnie: It's also worth mentioning that he had the ability to go anywhere else
Winnie: They were going to go to Mumbai or other places
Winnie: But
Khilli: she
Winnie: falls asleep
Winnie: And he intentionally drives them back to the village
Khilli: Just to get her family's
Adam: approval
Adam: Yeah, the point is
Adam: He's like, okay, how long are you going to run away from your father?
Winnie: Let's face it and then let's do...
Adam: Let's do the right thing.
Winnie: So you can see character development here.
Winnie: Yeah, he has an
Adam: arc.
Adam: He starts confronting things.
Adam: It's just he's like 40.
Winnie: 50, actually.
Winnie: Yeah, so it's
Adam: like, dude, I don't know, man.
Adam: Congrats that you learned it now.
Adam: But I
Khilli: don't know.
Adam: So after that...
Adam: After that
Adam: It's still like
Adam: Okay
Adam: There's a fight
Adam: And the father is like
Khilli: Impressed
Khilli: Holding
Adam: Deepika's hand
Adam: All the time
Adam: That she cannot go
Adam: And save
Adam: The guy
Adam: And
Adam: Yeah
Adam: Nikki talk about the duel
Adam: That finally happens
Adam: With the
Adam: Thangabali
Adam: The big guy
Adam: Yeah
Nicky: so it's like
Nicky: It's not just
Nicky: I guess it's like
Nicky: You know
Nicky: It's a glorified
Nicky: Like fight scene right
Adam: Yeah
It's like the whole
Nicky: The whole fight scene
Nicky: Is meant to like
Nicky: Show that
Nicky: You know
Nicky: he
Nicky: Shao Kahn would do
Nicky: anything
Nicky: to prove his love
Nicky: for her
Khilli: and it was
Nicky: like
Nicky: the speech that
Nicky: Keeley mentioned
Nicky: it was more like
Nicky: you know
Nicky: you never listen to
Nicky: your daughter
Nicky: or whatever
Nicky: and then like
Khilli: you know
Khilli: he's defending
Nicky: her honor
Nicky: that's basically
Nicky: and it's like
Nicky: all of this
Nicky: is just basically
Nicky: you know
Nicky: it's your typical romance film.
Adam: The funniest thing is, like,
Adam: he says all these things,
Adam: and at the end, like,
Adam: okay, how to prove your worth
Adam: is, like, fighting other men.
Adam: It was a very macho
Khilli: thing.
Khilli: Like, you have to be
Adam: masculine macho
Adam: to win over the girl,
Adam: but, like, you know, at the end,
Adam: like, at the end, that's the thing.
Khilli: But in between,
Adam: you address so many,
Khilli: like,
Khilli: patriarchal
Adam: issues and stuff like that
Adam: and go back to the...
Adam: He
Adam: says like
Adam: You need to listen to your daughter
Adam: She needs to be free
Adam: Now I'm gonna fight this guy
Adam: And whoever wins
Adam: Gets to fuck her
Winnie: Actually you guys are so right
Winnie: I didn't see it in this way at all
Winnie: It's so paradoxical
Winnie: When you put it like that
Adam: They don't ask her anything
Adam: He's talking to the dad about her
Winnie: And saying how the
Adam: dad should treat her
Winnie: He doesn't even ask her
Winnie: About bringing her back to the village
Winnie: Which she didn't want to do at all
Winnie: So yeah
Winnie: He surprises
Adam: her
Adam: She's like
Adam: This is what we're doing
Adam: I need to ask your dad
Adam: And then I gotta fight this guy
Adam: To take you
Adam: It's like address
Winnie: patriarchy only when it can get the man's respect.
Winnie: So you're still giving into patriarchy.
Winnie: It kind of threw me
Nicky: off when like he kind of like the father just goes up to Shah Rukh Khan.
Nicky: He's like, you win.
Nicky: You are a real man.
Nicky: While he's
Winnie: bloody and completely tattered because he was just in a massive fight.
Nicky: Yeah, that's
Adam: the only way.
Adam: Like, it's like, oh,
Winnie: no, no, you love
Adam: my girl, you can't have her.
Adam: Like, no, no, not that.
Adam: Like, oh, you are a fighter.
Adam: You could beat that stupid huge guy.
Nicky: Yeah, the huge guy didn't even, like, put up a fight or anything.
Nicky: He's just like, I respect you.
Nicky: everyone went
Adam: to like
Adam: suck his dick
Nicky: everyone wanted to suck
Nicky: because he knows
Nicky: they
Adam: all like stood up to take turns
Adam: and express how much they wanted to suck
Adam: his dick at the end of the fight because he's such a
Adam: cool big man
Nicky: guys this was like
Winnie: watching a movie with these guys
Winnie: Shah Rukh Khan reigns victorious
Winnie: And all they can talk about is everyone wanting to suck his dick
Adam: The dad is like
Adam: Excuse me sir
Adam: You can fuck my daughter but can I suck your dick first
Winnie: Only a true
Adam: man can do this
Winnie: So the movie ends with a bukkake
Adam: on the dad.
Adam: It's called the Chennai Express.
Adam: You ever heard of it?
Adam: It's when they run train on the dad.
Winnie: And we see Shah Rukh Khan with
Adam: Deepika
Winnie: again in Jawan, right?
Adam: Yeah, so there
Adam: is our theory, right?
Adam: That this Jawan,
Adam: this is like Jawan's old Shah Rukh Khan.
Adam: So this is the first Indian movie
Adam: that has the same actors
Adam: in different movies.
Adam: It's crazy.
Adam: No, because they
Adam: might be
Adam: Because how
Adam: How do you think
Adam: A sweet seller
Adam: Can fight that well
Adam: He was always hiding
Adam: His secret agent
Khilli: Yeah
Khilli: Identity
Adam: No you're right
Khilli: And in the whole movie
Khilli: Always a
Adam: secret agent
Adam: And then
Adam: He
Adam: He was
Adam: I mean
Adam: Yeah
Adam: Okay
Adam: His front is a
Adam: Sweet seller
Adam: I mean his
Adam: His grandpa was actually
Adam: A top
Adam: Top boss
Adam: In
Adam: in the secret agent
Adam: Indian secret agency
Adam: and then that's why
Adam: like
Adam: yeah
Adam: so it's a family thing
Adam: and then
Adam: he can fight off
Adam: the big guys
Adam: so well
Adam: and then
Adam: he starts a family
Adam: with Deepika
Adam: and then
Adam: everything happens
Adam: like where
Adam: his son becomes
Adam: the superman
Adam: superhero in Jawan.
Winnie: Yeah.
Winnie: This is Jawan is a sequel
Winnie: for this movie
Winnie: according to
Winnie: Kili's terms.
Winnie: It's airtight
Adam: and the whole time
Adam: in the whole movie
Adam: he keeps whispering
Adam: vote harder
Adam: to everyone
Adam: he talks to.
Adam: So it makes sense.
Nicky: Well I'm actually
Nicky: surprised this movie
Nicky: did well
Nicky: in the way it did
Nicky: like breaking
Nicky: box office records
Nicky: and
Adam: whatnot.
Adam: Yeah, I don't know
Adam: how that works.
Adam: I have no idea.
Adam: I was
Nicky: thoroughly entertained
Nicky: but I did think
Nicky: that the movie
Nicky: was just
Nicky: mid.
Nicky: This film was,
Adam: which year did it come out?
Adam: 2013.
Winnie: 2013.
Adam: Yeah, I was of the age
Adam: when I was like
Adam: obnoxiously
Adam: like watching only
Adam: good films.
Adam: Contrarian.
Winnie: You mean,
Winnie: I don't think you've
Winnie: grown out of that
Winnie: phase, Killy.
Winnie: I still want.
Winnie: You agree to this
Winnie: movie with like...
Winnie: I
Adam: go watch
Adam: mainstream movies now
Adam: just for the fun of it.
Adam: Yeah, that's what
Adam: they're for.
Adam: Huh?
Adam: That's
Adam: what they're
Adam: for,
Adam: fun.
Adam: Yeah.
Adam: Yeah, but yeah,
Adam: it's okay.
Adam: But then like this
Adam: this one I didn't watch
Adam: in theater or
Adam: this is the first time
Adam: I'm watching this film
Winnie: yeah Khalid was not a big fan
Winnie: of this movie
Winnie: before even watching it
Winnie: so that tells you
Winnie: something about him
Winnie: what do you think
Winnie: after watching it
Winnie: I mean it's
Adam: okay
Adam: yeah it's good
Adam: it's good
Adam: yeah I mean like
Adam: I mean if
Adam: you
Adam: if you
Adam: the movies we watched
Adam: before like you know
Adam: Kabi Kushi Kabi Gum
Adam: and then
Adam: what is this
Adam: Nadania
Adam: and then
Adam: Happy New Year
Adam: I mean
Adam: this is
Adam: classic classic
Adam: more
Adam: better
Adam: than
Adam: them yeah
Adam: okay i mean yeah i thought it was mad i'm with nikki like it should not have broken these
Adam: box office records there's much better films like he's been in better films yeah
Winnie: yeah i agree with
Winnie: adam and nikki here i feel like it was quite mid um yeah it's entertaining it's highly forgettable
Winnie: if you ask me but
Adam: like yeah
Winnie: but you can kind of see the appeal for of it you know like it has all that elements action drama
Winnie: comedy
Khilli: it blends different
Winnie: genres really well into one movie but it's nothing i'd ever watch again
Adam: all right uh good i don't know how we end this on this part yeah well
Winnie: i mean that's
Nicky: that's the
Nicky: episode let us know if
Winnie: you prefer this format if you found this a bit
Nicky: tighter that was the roof
Nicky: and
Winnie: the train scene.
Winnie: The DDLG.
Adam: That
Khilli: was actually
Winnie: funny.
Winnie: I liked
Adam: that too.
Adam: Alright, tune in next week.
Winnie: Thanks. Bye.
Adam: Bye.
Thank you.