1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:05,220 Winnie: Welcome to Desi Films Decoded, the podcast where four friends from different backgrounds unlock the world of Desi cinema. 2 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:07,820 Winnie: I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been to India. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,820 Khilli: We have gone a few real stairs. 4 00:00:10,180 --> 00:00:11,960 Khilli: You didn't say real stairs, you said Desi Films 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,320 Decoded. 6 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:17,100 Winnie: I was so proud of doing it without looking at my notes app. 7 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:17,779 Winnie: You 8 00:00:17,779 --> 00:00:19,279 Adam: just got the whole name of the podcast wrong, 9 00:00:19,419 --> 00:00:20,560 Adam: but everything else is spot on. 10 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:21,160 Winnie: - 11 00:00:39,379 --> 00:00:39,899 Winnie: Welcome 12 00:00:39,899 --> 00:00:45,460 Winnie: to Fear of Sairs, Desi Films Decoded, the podcast where four friends from different backgrounds unlock the world of Desi cinema. 13 00:00:46,199 --> 00:00:48,019 Winnie: I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been to India. 14 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:51,699 Khilli: Hi, I'm Killy, who admires Karan Jehor's film a lot. 15 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:56,079 Nicky: I'm Nikki. I occasionally like rom-com films. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,980 Adam: I'm Adam, the Western film buff, and 17 00:00:59,980 --> 00:01:05,299 Adam: after watching this movie I learned that Mao was right and cultural revolutions are necessary sometimes. 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Nicky: So today we're doing like a Netflix film of all things, which you know what that means. 19 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:22,960 Adam: High top quality, good writing, good acting, good cinematography, a lot of care being put into it. 20 00:01:23,940 --> 00:01:27,800 Nicky: And that film is a very recent one called Nadania. 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,300 Adam: Nadania. 22 00:01:29,540 --> 00:01:30,200 Nicky: Nadania. 23 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:31,280 Nicky: Yeah. 24 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:40,100 Nicky: It's a teen rom-com in the year 2025, which feels like a movie that was made in... 25 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:41,619 Nicky: 2003 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,060 Nicky: Like a 27 00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:44,140 Adam: She's All That era 28 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:46,180 Adam: type romcom 29 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,960 Nicky: I'm in disbelief that such a thing exists today 30 00:01:49,460 --> 00:01:51,280 Nicky: and I don't know about you guys 31 00:01:51,580 --> 00:01:52,659 Nicky: but watching the movie 32 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:53,759 Nicky: was like eating 33 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:55,500 Nicky: wet cardboard 34 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,480 Nicky: it's just super but you can 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,860 Adam: get nutrients out of wet 36 00:01:59,860 --> 00:02:00,220 Adam: cardboard 37 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:01,740 Adam: like 38 00:02:01,740 --> 00:02:02,860 Adam: maybe like very little 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Adam: but that's more than this movie maybe who's the director do you remember i don't 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Adam: remember 41 00:02:08,460 --> 00:02:10,700 Winnie: but producer is karen joe her yeah i 42 00:02:10,700 --> 00:02:14,020 Khilli: have i i have a feeling that the director was 17 when 43 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:19,140 Khilli: around 2002 2003 so that's that's what she remembers being seven i mean absolutely i like 44 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:19,800 Khilli: that you assume 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Winnie: the gender the gender of the director is a woman 46 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:23,020 Khilli: I 47 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:23,300 Khilli: know. 48 00:02:23,540 --> 00:02:23,840 Khilli: It is? 49 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:24,320 Khilli: Yeah. 50 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:25,320 Khilli: Yeah, it is. 51 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:26,420 Khilli: I forgot the name. 52 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:28,820 Nicky: Well, 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Nicky: yeah, it's your typical... 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:29,980 Nicky: I think 55 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:31,240 Adam: they forgot they were directing a film, 56 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:31,400 Nicky: too. 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:31,860 Nicky: It's okay. 58 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,640 Nicky: It's like, this is what kids do. 59 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Nicky: But yeah, this is a very forgettable rom-com. 60 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Nicky: You have your usual two opposite characters getting into some... 61 00:02:47,099 --> 00:02:47,500 Nicky: shenanigans 62 00:02:47,799 --> 00:02:49,319 Nicky: and then them falling in love 63 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:51,060 Nicky: and there's your usual misunderstanding 64 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:53,319 Nicky: at the later 65 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,340 Nicky: part of the film. 66 00:02:55,180 --> 00:02:55,860 Nicky: I don't know how... 67 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:56,780 Nicky: Well, we should 68 00:02:56,780 --> 00:02:58,640 Adam: explain why we chose this movie. 69 00:02:59,260 --> 00:02:59,860 Adam: But before that, 70 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Adam: because we have some time, 71 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:04,780 Adam: we're starting an hour late 72 00:03:04,959 --> 00:03:06,019 Adam: because what were you guys doing? 73 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:07,079 Nicky: Oh. 74 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:09,859 Adam: Which is nice. I don't know. We should talk about it. 75 00:03:10,060 --> 00:03:11,859 Nicky: I just went to a Japanese onsen. 76 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:12,560 Adam: Okay. 77 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:13,299 Adam: Just to 78 00:03:13,299 --> 00:03:13,599 Nicky: relax. 79 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:17,900 Winnie: I just went to get a massage to try to cure my office syndrome back 80 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Adam: So this is nice like this is you know, I hope that went well. How was the spa? I'm kind of envious 81 00:03:24,460 --> 00:03:27,200 Nicky: Well, it got a little stressful because I knew it was running away 82 00:03:27,820 --> 00:03:28,980 Nicky: Because you did confirm 83 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:29,600 Adam: four o'clock 84 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:30,060 Adam: I think it 85 00:03:30,060 --> 00:03:30,920 Adam: was a whole hour late 86 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,180 Nicky: And then at four o'clock said 87 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:34,040 Adam: I'm leaving. I'm at the onsen right now 88 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:39,300 Nicky: I you know, I thought I had everything under control, but then my friend was in town and 89 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Nicky: He's from Canada. 90 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:43,760 Nicky: He wanted to explore things he missed in Thailand. 91 00:03:44,170 --> 00:03:47,540 Nicky: I thought I could squeeze in all these things before four, 92 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:51,360 Nicky: but then I kind of got lost in the sauna. 93 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:55,600 Adam: Wait, was there more than the onsen that you did with this guy? 94 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,620 Winnie: Wait, what? 95 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,820 Winnie: No, I mean, you 96 00:03:57,820 --> 00:03:59,960 Adam: said he wanted to do activities and stuff. 97 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Nicky: He wanted to go to Chinatown, but then I told him, 98 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:07,800 Nicky: yeah, if you didn't know, I got this podcast for... 99 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,820 Nicky: with with my few friends it was like what's about i was like it's it's on indian movies and he's 100 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:14,780 Nicky: like hmm yeah that's 101 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:16,500 Winnie: kind of the reaction i tend to get oh 102 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,420 Nicky: cool 103 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:18,120 but 104 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,400 Winnie: honestly at this point if we 105 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,980 Winnie: say four i kind of know we're gonna start at five we're running on indian time which is i think 106 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:28,720 Winnie: pretty appropriate since we're doing a podcast about indian movies sure 107 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,220 Adam: fine 108 00:04:29,220 --> 00:04:29,860 Adam: i'll say three 109 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,500 Adam: next time no i just i just want to know how the onsen went so it was 110 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:34,560 Nicky: relaxing it's not my first 111 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Nicky: rodeo i mean yeah there for like 112 00:04:36,419 --> 00:04:36,940 Nicky: a few years. 113 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,680 Nicky: Your Canadian friend 114 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:38,280 Adam: misses those? 115 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:40,160 Nicky: He's never been 116 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,699 Nicky: to a Japanese onsens 117 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Nicky: of all the things. 118 00:04:43,540 --> 00:04:44,120 Nicky: And now he's going to 119 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:45,240 Nicky: develop a new personality 120 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:45,919 Nicky: when he goes back 121 00:04:46,060 --> 00:04:46,479 Nicky: to Toronto. 122 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,180 Nicky: He'll be like, 123 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:48,880 Nicky: you ever been to one 124 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:51,360 Nicky: of those Japanese onsens? 125 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:52,100 Nicky: It's a 126 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:53,100 Adam: great first date place. 127 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:53,880 Winnie: And then he's going to 128 00:04:53,979 --> 00:04:54,539 Winnie: talk about how he only 129 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:55,400 Winnie: spent 20 bucks 130 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,820 Winnie: on a new one. 131 00:04:55,819 --> 00:04:56,879 Winnie: And you could spend a whole day there. 132 00:04:57,259 --> 00:04:57,699 Nicky: Is there not 133 00:04:57,699 --> 00:04:59,139 Adam: onsens in, like, Toronto? 134 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,139 Winnie: I never saw one. 135 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:00,879 Winnie: I've seen New York. 136 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:03,960 Nicky: He did tell me there are, but I guess he never had, like, buddies 137 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Adam: to go with. 138 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Winnie: A massage, at minimum, would cost 60, 70 bucks in Rochester. 139 00:05:09,099 --> 00:05:10,400 Adam: But the onsens is just hot water. 140 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:13,039 Adam: And, like, for a place that snows, that would be incredible. 141 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:14,620 Nicky: Well, it's not just hot water. 142 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,740 Nicky: You have, like, a bunch of, like, pools. 143 00:05:18,659 --> 00:05:22,139 Nicky: Like, pools that are set at different temperatures. 144 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:25,220 Nicky: So, like, you'll have, like, a cold bath at one end where you... 145 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Nicky: like zero degrees. 146 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:28,000 Nicky: Why? 147 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Nicky: Just to, you know, 148 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:33,080 Nicky: for the cold baths, 149 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,940 Nicky: it would be more like, 150 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,580 Nicky: you know, relaxing your body 151 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:36,820 Nicky: sort of thing. 152 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Nicky: And then when you go, 153 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:39,920 Nicky: and then there's like the hot water, 154 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:41,860 Nicky: there's like a jet stream bath 155 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:42,800 Nicky: and then another one 156 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,160 Nicky: is like a signature bath 157 00:05:45,420 --> 00:05:46,000 Nicky: where they throw in 158 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,780 Nicky: like all sorts of like salts 159 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Nicky: and water. 160 00:05:49,380 --> 00:05:49,860 Nicky: and nutrients 161 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:50,340 Nicky: and 162 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:51,460 Winnie: there's an outdoor area 163 00:05:51,740 --> 00:05:52,540 Winnie: where you can just sit 164 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Winnie: and relax 165 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,820 Winnie: under the sun 166 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:54,200 Winnie: there's a 167 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:54,780 Nicky: steam room 168 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Nicky: yeah 169 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:56,240 Nicky: a tea bath 170 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Nicky: a restaurant 171 00:05:58,500 --> 00:05:59,000 Adam: a restaurant 172 00:05:59,180 --> 00:05:59,700 Adam: yeah you can 173 00:05:59,700 --> 00:05:59,860 Winnie: wear 174 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:00,400 Winnie: a yukata 175 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,140 Winnie: and just like 176 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:01,920 Winnie: there's a sleeping room 177 00:06:02,140 --> 00:06:02,460 Winnie: as well 178 00:06:02,660 --> 00:06:03,440 Winnie: you said yukata 179 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:04,260 Winnie: is it correct 180 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:04,860 Winnie: it's correct 181 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,360 Winnie: oh yes 182 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:05,680 Winnie: because 183 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,360 Nicky: my friend was like 184 00:06:06,460 --> 00:06:07,120 Nicky: when are we going to 185 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,340 Nicky: wear those kimonos 186 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,300 Nicky: and I'm thinking to myself 187 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,380 Nicky: I don't want to correct 188 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:11,240 Nicky: this man right now 189 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,500 Nicky: it's not a kimono 190 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Nicky: it's a yukata 191 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Adam: this stupid pleb 192 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:15,140 Adam: doesn't know 193 00:06:15,140 --> 00:06:15,520 Adam: what he's talking about 194 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Adam: it's a very Japanese 195 00:06:17,020 --> 00:06:17,700 Nicky: thing I guess 196 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:18,340 Have 197 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:19,360 Winnie: you guys not gone to the 198 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:19,960 Winnie: I've gone to that 199 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,100 Adam: one 200 00:06:20,140 --> 00:06:20,760 Adam: I really like it 201 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:21,180 Winnie: Oh okay yeah 202 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,440 Winnie: So for the men's section 203 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,580 Winnie: You have to be completely naked 204 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:24,700 Winnie: The women's 205 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:24,980 Adam: you don't? 206 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:25,960 Winnie: No they give you like 207 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:27,500 Winnie: A little like a tube top 208 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:27,980 Winnie: Oh 209 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:28,780 Winnie: Yeah I mean it's still 210 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,380 Winnie: Kind of see through 211 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,500 Winnie: But you're not fully exposed 212 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:31,160 Winnie: Nice 213 00:06:31,620 --> 00:06:31,780 Winnie: Yeah 214 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:33,160 Adam: Nikki was it weird 215 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:34,200 Adam: Going there with your friend 216 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:34,740 Nicky: No 217 00:06:34,819 --> 00:06:37,300 Nicky: I feel like I've seen all of my 218 00:06:38,039 --> 00:06:38,919 Nicky: Arcadian friends 219 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:41,300 Adam: Not mine 220 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,740 Adam: I've never been to an onsen with you 221 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:44,919 Adam: Unless I'm not aware of it 222 00:06:45,020 --> 00:06:45,159 Adam: I've seen 223 00:06:45,159 --> 00:06:45,180 Nicky: Tim 224 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:47,900 Nicky: I've seen Larry's 225 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:48,659 Nicky: You don't have to list 226 00:06:48,659 --> 00:06:48,879 Adam: it 227 00:06:51,819 --> 00:06:53,020 Nicky: They just got so 228 00:06:53,020 --> 00:06:54,000 Adam: name blasted 229 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:55,740 Winnie: I'm just like naming people 230 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,180 Winnie: And then review each of them 231 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,020 Adam: You can't help 232 00:06:59,020 --> 00:06:59,540 Winnie: but look 233 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Nicky: Can I get some 234 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,220 Adam: dick ratings on each of them 235 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Yeah that's 236 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,380 Nicky: not happening 237 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Nicky: You have to pay for the onsen 238 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:06,820 Nicky: Yeah for the Patreon 239 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,100 Nicky: You'll hear 240 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:09,260 Adam: dick ratings of our friends 241 00:07:12,220 --> 00:07:13,260 Nicky: Keely you're the only one 242 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:14,900 Nicky: Keely and Adam's the only one left I haven't seen 243 00:07:15,140 --> 00:07:15,900 Nicky: Fear of stairs 244 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:17,700 Nicky: I'll keep that as long as possible 245 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,140 Adam: Have you been to the onsen Keely? 246 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:22,800 Adam: No never heard 247 00:07:23,139 --> 00:07:23,639 Adam: Yeah, we should go. 248 00:07:23,740 --> 00:07:24,800 Adam: We should take a field trip. 249 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,020 Adam: I've gone 250 00:07:25,020 --> 00:07:27,060 Khilli: to onsen, like a hot spring. 251 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:28,020 Khilli: Yeah. 252 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:29,440 Khilli: Not Japanese onsen, like 253 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,539 hot 254 00:07:30,539 --> 00:07:30,780 Adam: springs. 255 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:33,199 Winnie: It's a really good way to spend the entire day. 256 00:07:33,659 --> 00:07:36,319 Nicky: Oh, your body just feels like it's gone through some rebirth. 257 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,199 Nicky: Refresh. 258 00:07:38,379 --> 00:07:39,060 Adam: But it was crowded. 259 00:07:39,479 --> 00:07:40,560 Adam: It's kind of tough when it's crowded. 260 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:42,599 Winnie: Yeah, Sundays are the most crowded. 261 00:07:43,419 --> 00:07:44,759 Winnie: but like if you can go on a weekday 262 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:45,479 Winnie: it's pretty good 263 00:07:45,909 --> 00:07:46,039 do 264 00:07:46,039 --> 00:07:46,800 Adam: you get the passes 265 00:07:47,009 --> 00:07:47,639 Adam: like the monthly 266 00:07:48,340 --> 00:07:48,780 uh 267 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:50,360 Nicky: I have a monthly pass 268 00:07:50,539 --> 00:07:51,240 Nicky: I have like a 269 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:52,919 Nicky: I only buy vouchers 270 00:07:53,379 --> 00:07:53,819 Nicky: yeah 271 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,139 Nicky: which gives you like 272 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:56,740 Nicky: you can enter 273 00:07:57,020 --> 00:07:58,000 Nicky: you can use them 274 00:07:58,310 --> 00:07:59,680 Nicky: within like a six month period 275 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Yeah 276 00:08:02,060 --> 00:08:02,420 I 277 00:08:02,420 --> 00:08:03,720 Winnie: have a whole 10 day package 278 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,300 Winnie: Oh that's right 279 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:05,260 Winnie: Have you used it yet? 280 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:06,780 Winnie: Thanks to all three of you 281 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,300 Adam: Have you been using it? 282 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:08,440 Adam: I haven't used 283 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Winnie: it yet 284 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,340 Winnie: But I was going to today 285 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,500 Winnie: But I had the podcast 286 00:08:11,820 --> 00:08:12,860 Winnie: So I thought I wouldn't have enough time 287 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:13,500 Adam: Sorry 288 00:08:13,780 --> 00:08:13,900 Adam: But 289 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:14,580 Winnie: yeah 290 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Winnie: I'm sure I'll use it 291 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:16,260 Winnie: When I was 292 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:16,880 Nicky: at the onsen today 293 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:17,360 Nicky: I was thinking 294 00:08:17,690 --> 00:08:19,020 Nicky: I wonder when he's used it 295 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Nicky: any of those options you bought 296 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:20,860 her. 297 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,060 Winnie: - Not just yet. 298 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Winnie: I've been mainly getting massages lately. 299 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:25,200 Winnie: Trying to fix my back. 300 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:26,500 Adam: - Is that working with the, 301 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Adam: 'cause I have office syndrome too. 302 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:28,780 Adam: - Not at all. 303 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:30,760 Winnie: I mean, it helps for a few hours 304 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,660 Winnie: and then by the next day on Monday, 305 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:34,700 Winnie: you go back to the office and it just comes back. 306 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:37,419 Winnie: - You have to stretch and exercise and walk. 307 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Khilli: - Yeah, keep on, like keep to stay, 308 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:42,120 Khilli: resume your workout routine. 309 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:42,940 Winnie: - Yeah, my yoga. 310 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:45,000 Adam: Everyone in America 311 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:45,620 Adam: When they're like 312 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:46,520 Adam: When they know that 313 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:47,300 Adam: I live in Thailand 314 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Adam: Ask about 315 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:49,580 Adam: You know massages and stuff 316 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Adam: And 317 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Adam: it's true 318 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Adam: I get them all the time here 319 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:54,760 Adam: I never got up in America 320 00:08:55,060 --> 00:08:55,340 Adam: And it's 321 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:55,960 Adam: It's just 322 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,500 Winnie: not affordable 323 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:56,880 Winnie: It's not 324 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,260 Adam: affordable 325 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:58,340 Adam: It's so expensive 326 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,200 Adam: And like luxurious 327 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:13,180 Adam: Yeah 328 00:08:59,820 --> 00:09:03,740 Adam: Over there that you're just you just don't unless it's like yeah birthday present 329 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:04,740 Adam: But 330 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:10,540 Adam: here like and it's not like an elite thing like Thai people get massages all the time, too. Like it's just very 331 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:13,480 Adam: Available and like and it's really nice. 332 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,700 Winnie: Yeah, it's like a lifestyle here. So it's 333 00:09:15,620 --> 00:09:15,819 Winnie: accessible 334 00:09:15,819 --> 00:09:16,720 like 335 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Adam: this isn't the bragging corner but we do get massages quite frequently that is 336 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,279 Adam: like a true stereotype and it's lovely 337 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:22,899 killie 338 00:09:22,899 --> 00:09:24,620 Winnie: we killie got one last night he's about to go back 339 00:09:24,779 --> 00:09:28,319 Winnie: today he just asked me it would be weird to go back two days in a row and i'm just like i'm sure 340 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:30,399 Winnie: he'll be flattering that's what i said 341 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:33,500 Adam: he thought it'd be weird but i thought it like that it's 342 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:35,880 Adam: repeat customers they like that that's a good 343 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,199 thing 344 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:39,540 okay 345 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:44,880 Adam: when i was in uh no killie what was the air when i was in veranasi i was trying to get a 346 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:45,860 Adam: massage why 347 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,840 Adam: because 348 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Adam: i was in pain dude the bed sucked 349 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,720 Adam: okay 350 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Adam: i like i'm very sensitive 351 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:52,420 Khilli: experience 352 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Khilli: i really want to know a massage experience no well it 353 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,820 Adam: never happened because they split it by 354 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Adam: genders they're like if you get a first of all it's very hard to get 355 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:01,160 Khilli: Yeah. 356 00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:02,540 Adam: And I'm fine. 357 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,940 Adam: I had to ask some weird drug dealing like, what's that? 358 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,380 Adam: Oh, Lassie, you know, like the shroom Lassie guy, the weed Lassie guy. 359 00:10:12,010 --> 00:10:17,640 Adam: Like I was asking him and like, you know, there's people, but he's like, if you're a man, it can only be with another man. 360 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,459 Adam: Or if it's a woman, that's with a woman. 361 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:21,820 Adam: And like, I've 362 00:10:21,820 --> 00:10:22,800 Adam: had... 363 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:25,080 Adam: in India, like when they shave you, they massage. 364 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:27,380 Adam: And I've never felt so much pain 365 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Adam: when they're like hammering on your shoulders and stuff. 366 00:10:29,959 --> 00:10:32,360 Adam: I was just very afraid of getting like a male massage 367 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,899 Adam: while I was there. 368 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Adam: So I just didn't. 369 00:10:36,140 --> 00:10:37,060 Adam: But I really wanted one 370 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,339 Adam: because I was like in like a ton of pain 371 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Adam: from just the hard beds. 372 00:10:41,380 --> 00:10:42,620 Adam: And if it was Thai... 373 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:45,800 Adam: But no, actually, you know where the only place I got a massage in India was? 374 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:49,400 Adam: In Bodh Gaya, right? 375 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:51,400 Adam: Where they have the Buddha was under the tree. 376 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:52,200 Nicky: Yeah. 377 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:55,440 Adam: There's all these different temples owned by different Buddhist countries. 378 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Adam: And they have one from Japan and Cambodia, but Thailand's the biggest. 379 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,680 Adam: And the royal family donated a lot to that area. 380 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:04,200 Adam: And the Thai temple has... 381 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,420 Adam: massage places 382 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,260 Adam: fuck yeah 383 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,080 Adam: so you can go get 384 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,540 Adam: Thai massages and stuff 385 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:09,600 Adam: and you can even go 386 00:11:09,630 --> 00:11:10,240 Adam: and sleep there 387 00:11:10,290 --> 00:11:11,140 Adam: like for free if you want 388 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:11,880 Adam: like the Thai pavilion 389 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:12,760 Adam: is huge over there 390 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:13,520 Adam: and it's really nice 391 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:13,920 Adam: but yeah 392 00:11:14,180 --> 00:11:14,820 Adam: that was the only place 393 00:11:14,930 --> 00:11:16,040 Adam: I got was a Thai massage 394 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:16,880 Adam: in the Thai temple 395 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Adam: yeah 396 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:18,500 Adam: that's beautiful 397 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:19,940 Nicky: oh it sounds 398 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:20,700 Nicky: sounds like a 399 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,200 Nicky: to do with 400 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:21,780 Nicky: to do 401 00:11:21,950 --> 00:11:22,540 Nicky: I have to put that 402 00:11:22,580 --> 00:11:23,180 Nicky: on my to-do list 403 00:11:24,020 --> 00:11:24,380 Adam: you 404 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:24,800 Winnie: know what else 405 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:25,760 Winnie: everyone has to put 406 00:11:25,820 --> 00:11:26,540 Winnie: on their to-do list 407 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:28,220 Winnie: watching Nadania 408 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:28,780 Winnie: okay 409 00:11:29,580 --> 00:11:29,940 Winnie: sorry 410 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:30,560 Adam: let's go on 411 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:32,020 Winnie: I 412 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:32,560 Adam: was putting it off 413 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:34,020 Nicky: with cardboard 414 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:34,860 Winnie: no I can see why 415 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:35,680 Winnie: you're putting it off Adam 416 00:11:35,730 --> 00:11:36,340 Winnie: I don't blame you 417 00:11:36,430 --> 00:11:37,100 Winnie: so Nikki 418 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:37,600 Adam: gave the 419 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Adam: rundown 420 00:11:38,270 --> 00:11:39,560 Adam: but why did we watch it 421 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:40,420 there 422 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:40,900 Nicky: is a 423 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,820 Nicky: very topical news 424 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:51,180 Winnie: happening 425 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,199 Nicky: happening. Winnie, would you mind explaining? 426 00:11:44,339 --> 00:11:44,440 Nicky: - Oh 427 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Winnie: yeah, I don't know. 428 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:47,660 Winnie: I just saw on Instagram a lot of top comments 429 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,779 Winnie: about people complaining about how Nadania was 430 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,899 Winnie: in our generation and I figured, 431 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Winnie: I was wondering what this was. 432 00:11:54,940 --> 00:11:56,579 Winnie: Turns out it was going viral on social media 433 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,300 Winnie: for being terrible. 434 00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:59,920 Winnie: I'm not even on like Indian Instagram, 435 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:01,480 Winnie: but it was like flooding my feed. 436 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,220 Winnie: - Really? - Yeah. 437 00:12:02,819 --> 00:12:04,519 Winnie: So I was like, wow, this is like pretty big news. 438 00:12:04,779 --> 00:12:05,680 Winnie: And then I read up about it. 439 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:12,019 Winnie: I found that article about the controversy with the lead actor getting angry at the Pakistani journalist. 440 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,100 Winnie: So I suggested we watch it. 441 00:12:14,819 --> 00:12:16,459 Winnie: 3.1 rating on IMDb. 442 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Winnie: What did you see on your clips? 443 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:19,480 Adam: Like what was popping up on your feed? 444 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,399 Winnie: Just people complaining about it. 445 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,500 Winnie: If I looked up for it, you know, like, but most of it was just comments. 446 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:25,740 Winnie: But what are they saying about it? 447 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:28,600 Winnie: Complaining that we got 448 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,420 Winnie: this 449 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:30,380 Winnie: movie in our generation. 450 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:31,579 Winnie: I don't remember exactly. 451 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:33,819 Okay, 452 00:12:33,980 --> 00:12:34,459 Khilli: I'm just curious 453 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,860 Khilli: Karan Johor is making this 454 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,079 Khilli: School universe 455 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Khilli: Where he has this 456 00:12:43,060 --> 00:12:44,440 Khilli: Not in a 457 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:45,800 Khilli: MCU thing 458 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Khilli: Not in a MCU way, but it's like 459 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,040 Khilli: In a thematic way 460 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:56,180 Khilli: Okay, so he's making these films where these rich students go to a like a posh school 461 00:12:56,460 --> 00:13:03,200 Khilli: says and then there would be one guy who comes from apparently some poor background, like 462 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,900 Khilli: which is in Dharma Productions standard. 463 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:06,860 Khilli: They are not poor. 464 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,460 Khilli: They're very rich as well. 465 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Khilli: But like they're poorer than the industrialists. 466 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:14,800 Khilli: right so there would be one guy 467 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,759 Khilli: is always a guy 468 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:18,800 Khilli: and then they would be like looked down upon 469 00:13:19,139 --> 00:13:20,819 Khilli: like bullied for their economic 470 00:13:21,139 --> 00:13:22,740 Khilli: condition and stuff like that and then 471 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:24,720 Khilli: they would be the underdog hero 472 00:13:25,199 --> 00:13:26,680 Khilli: kind of film so he has done 473 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:28,860 Khilli: student of the year student of the year too 474 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:30,600 Khilli: and this film 475 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:32,440 Khilli: Nadania and then this 476 00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,819 Khilli: who also like looks like a reminiscent 477 00:13:35,079 --> 00:13:36,899 Khilli: of Uch Kuch Hota Hai which was like 478 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:38,259 Khilli: Karan Jura's first director 479 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:40,399 Khilli: directorial debut with 480 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:41,980 Khilli: Shara Khan, Kajol 481 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:44,840 Khilli: Wow, a million 482 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Adam: times more charisma 483 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:47,440 Adam: in those two people 484 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:47,980 Khilli: So 485 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:50,700 Khilli: there are a lot of kickbacks 486 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,980 Khilli: if you remember there was this 487 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,260 Khilli: principal of the school 488 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,760 Khilli: Miss Breganza or something 489 00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:57,200 Khilli: like was like 490 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,180 Khilli: using all of the 491 00:13:58,959 --> 00:13:59,440 Khilli: WTF 492 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Winnie: OMG 493 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,120 Winnie: yeah yeah 494 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,140 Winnie: so even 495 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,980 Khilli: Kuch Kuch Wotai 496 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:04,279 Khilli: had the same actor 497 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,640 Khilli: the character name 498 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Khilli: was Miss Braganza 499 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,700 Khilli: but that was not a school 500 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:08,519 Khilli: that was a college 501 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:10,040 Khilli: but it's a kickback 502 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,260 Khilli: I mean it's a 503 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:11,600 Khilli: and it would have 504 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,200 Khilli: made more sense 505 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:12,820 Khilli: reference 506 00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:13,260 Adam: to 507 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,300 Adam: Karan Jehor's 508 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:15,080 Adam: earlier aesthetics 509 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Adam: she also played 510 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:16,980 Adam: a prison warden 511 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:17,800 Adam: in his other series 512 00:14:18,260 --> 00:14:19,200 Adam: no I'm kidding 513 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:25,779 Khilli: I'm kidding 514 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Khilli: So that's the thing, like he's repeating doing it and he's known for launching kids from film family to Bollywood. 515 00:14:29,510 --> 00:14:39,540 Khilli: So it's like he has launched Alia Bhatt at one point, who turned out to be a really good actor later. 516 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:42,600 Khilli: But he has done with few other people. 517 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:45,140 Adam: He's kind of like Coppola, in a way. 518 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:48,860 Adam: Where like his, I feel like where he kind of shepherds new people, 519 00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:52,320 Adam: but also his family is in a lot of the film industry as well, maybe. 520 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:54,420 Khilli: It's like for him, it's not his family. 521 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:57,600 Khilli: He's, it's like other people's family because 522 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Khilli: Oh, right. 523 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,060 Khilli: Because he doesn't have kids. 524 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,980 Adam: We're all laughing about having a family. 525 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:05,700 Adam: What 526 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:06,220 Winnie: do you call it? 527 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Winnie: Openly closeted gay. 528 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,780 Winnie: Yeah, that's how Khilli describes her 529 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Winnie: and enjoy her status. 530 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:14,380 Khilli: Openly closeted gay person. 531 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Khilli: But this movie was 532 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Winnie: also going viral 533 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Winnie: because of the lead actor being 534 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:20,320 Winnie: Saif, Abraham Ali Khan, 535 00:15:21,140 --> 00:15:22,320 Winnie: who is Saif Ali's 536 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Winnie: son. 537 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,820 Khilli: And the daughter of 538 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Khilli: uh... 539 00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:29,540 Khilli: Sridevi 540 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:31,260 Khilli: is she also famous 541 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:32,760 Khilli: Sridevi was like a 542 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,220 Khilli: terrific actress 543 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,740 Khilli: in Bollywood 544 00:15:35,740 --> 00:15:35,860 Khilli: yeah 545 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:36,940 Khilli: so Nepo baby 546 00:15:37,220 --> 00:15:38,320 Khilli: she was amazing 547 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,740 Khilli: and her 548 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:40,700 Khilli: already one daughter 549 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:41,420 Khilli: got debuted 550 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,900 Khilli: in one of the films 551 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,900 Khilli: and I think 552 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Khilli: this girl is 553 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:45,540 Khilli: it's not her debut 554 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Khilli: it's a 555 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:47,640 Khilli: third or 556 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:48,360 Khilli: some film 557 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:50,380 Khilli: and yeah 558 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:50,720 Khilli: so 559 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Khilli: they're like 560 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,420 Khilli: two kids 561 00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:53,520 Khilli: from film family 562 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:54,080 Khilli: yeah 563 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:54,640 Khilli: but wasn't 564 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Khilli: Shah Rukh Khan 565 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Khilli: and 566 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:56,860 Khilli: Kadral 567 00:15:56,860 --> 00:15:57,140 Adam: even 568 00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:57,820 Adam: kind of 569 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,820 Adam: Nepo Babies 2 570 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,700 Khilli: no I don't think 571 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:00,100 Khilli: no 572 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,780 Khilli: Shah Rukh Khan 573 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Khilli: I mean these people 574 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:04,540 Khilli: had maybe some connection 575 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:05,060 Khilli: but the 576 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Khilli: Shah Rukh Khan is not 577 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:08,160 Khilli: quote-unquote Napo baby. 578 00:16:09,339 --> 00:16:10,180 Khilli: Rick de Groshen was. 579 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Khilli: Rick de Groshen was. 580 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:11,500 Adam: Sure. 581 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:12,300 Adam: It's just, 582 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:13,519 Adam: those guys have so much, 583 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:13,779 Adam: I mean, 584 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,519 Adam: because even if they are, 585 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,180 Adam: I'm saying like, 586 00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:16,360 Adam: at least those guys 587 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:17,459 Adam: had tremendous charisma. 588 00:16:17,980 --> 00:16:18,100 Khilli: No, 589 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Khilli: there are Napo kids 590 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:19,899 Khilli: who are really 591 00:16:19,899 --> 00:16:20,500 Adam: hardworking. 592 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:21,459 Khilli: Yeah, 593 00:16:21,779 --> 00:16:22,019 Khilli: I mean, 594 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:22,540 Khilli: there are no good ones. 595 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:23,019 Khilli: So why were these 596 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:23,820 Adam: put in this movie? 597 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:24,540 Adam: They have nothing. 598 00:16:24,899 --> 00:16:25,640 Khilli: I think there have been 599 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,820 Khilli: always this influx 600 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,040 Khilli: of Napo kids 601 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,620 Khilli: and then some do well 602 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,300 Khilli: because they are good 603 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,019 Khilli: and some doesn't, 604 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,060 Khilli: they get lost. 605 00:16:32,839 --> 00:16:33,160 Yeah. 606 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Yeah, 607 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,620 Adam: it didn't seem like they spent a lot of money on this film. 608 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Winnie: But I don't think he was terrible. 609 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:40,180 Winnie: He was receiving a lot of hatred on social media for terrible acting. 610 00:16:40,350 --> 00:16:43,560 Winnie: From critics as well for just being really bad at acting. 611 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Winnie: I don't think it was that bad. 612 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Winnie: I think it was just bad writing, bad plot. 613 00:16:47,190 --> 00:16:48,520 Winnie: The movie was worse than the acting. 614 00:16:48,740 --> 00:16:48,900 Winnie: I was 615 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:50,300 Khilli: talking to Winnie about it. 616 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:54,880 Khilli: For me, it also felt like terrible writing, worse direction. 617 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:02,780 Khilli: It's it's it those like those technicalities of the filmmaking was were way worse than the acting part 618 00:17:02,930 --> 00:17:04,880 Khilli: I mean acting I think they were salvage 619 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,400 Khilli: salvageable 620 00:17:07,339 --> 00:17:07,680 Khilli: actors 621 00:17:08,370 --> 00:17:10,780 Khilli: These two kids like they may not be that good 622 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:16,079 Khilli: But they could have been okay under different circumstances on different directors and stuff. They can't 623 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:16,520 Adam: dance though 624 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:19,700 Adam: They didn't even dance or sing. 625 00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:19,980 Adam: - It 626 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:20,700 Winnie: was so not memorable. 627 00:17:20,830 --> 00:17:21,820 Winnie: I don't remember the dances. 628 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:22,980 Winnie: - I don't remember any of them. 629 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,380 Winnie: - There's two 630 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:25,080 Adam: music segments and they just, 631 00:17:25,310 --> 00:17:26,360 Adam: it was very bland. 632 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:28,200 Adam: 'Cause at first I thought the movie 633 00:17:28,270 --> 00:17:29,420 Adam: just didn't have music at all. 634 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:30,080 Adam: I was like, this is 635 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,540 Khilli: bad. 636 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,540 Khilli: And then they did it and like they, 637 00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:34,440 Khilli: you don't remember it at all. 638 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,820 Khilli: Funniest thing, we were watching this film with my niece. 639 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:39,600 Khilli: Actually, yeah, that's worth 640 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Adam: mentioning. 641 00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:40,720 Adam: And your nephew. 642 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:41,000 Adam: She's 643 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,740 Khilli: 17 and the characters are 17 after, after. 644 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,100 Khilli: So she was like very interested, like when I offered her like, 645 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:49,360 Khilli: oh, we are going to watch this film for the podcast. 646 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,700 Khilli: And she was like, yes, I want to judge this film 647 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:54,200 Khilli: because all of my friends are like writing about it 648 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:57,140 Khilli: and like talking about, talking shit about it, this film. 649 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,580 Khilli: And then I want to watch this film and judge. 650 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:01,800 Khilli: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 651 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:02,520 Khilli: Let's come. 652 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:03,720 Khilli: Let's go and do it. 653 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:07,260 Khilli: And then after the film, the first thing she said, like, I am 17. 654 00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:10,660 Khilli: I didn't relate a single thing, literally single thing in this film. 655 00:18:11,420 --> 00:18:16,020 Adam: I mean, that's, I think, the key issue is like on every level, it's incredibly unrelatable. 656 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:21,320 Adam: Like the actors are supposed to be in high school, but they all look like they're 25 and above. 657 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:24,000 Adam: They are rich beyond... 658 00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:24,680 Adam: up 659 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Adam: like the the earlier films like the um keijo films right 660 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,980 Khilli: like 661 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:35,220 Adam: they were aspirational and kind 662 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:39,760 Adam: of fantastical but in a way where like you didn't need it to be relatable like it was 663 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Adam: cool just rich people living in a weird world but then in this one they're living in our world 664 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:52,160 Adam: In places that exist like that, with families that actually act like that, and it's not relatable, it's just insulting to watch. 665 00:18:52,870 --> 00:19:03,740 Adam: And like when she was saying that she gets a new car every year, I don't know who would enjoy looking at that or how. 666 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,540 Adam: That's not aspirational. 667 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,480 Adam: It's just insulting to everyone else because you know that's true for them. 668 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Adam: Is it? 669 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,559 Adam: I mean, what are they talking about? 670 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:15,740 Adam: Like, that's not a realistic or cool thing to say, 671 00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:16,580 Adam: if they're not. 672 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,799 Adam: I feel like it's just true. 673 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,460 I 674 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:21,340 Khilli: remember one of the film family kids, 675 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:23,320 Khilli: Ranbir Kapoor, you know Ranbir Kapoor, right? 676 00:19:23,539 --> 00:19:25,600 Khilli: Yeah, he's like a good actor. 677 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:26,799 Khilli: So there was a... 678 00:19:26,940 --> 00:19:30,560 Khilli: There was an interview he did with the newspaper where he said, 679 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,980 Khilli: "Oh, we were so poor, we didn't even have a Mercedes or BMW or anything. 680 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:40,060 Khilli: We couldn't go to trip to Europe." 681 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:43,240 Khilli: Like all of my peers were going to a trip to Europe. 682 00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:45,560 Khilli: We struggled a lot. 683 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,900 Khilli: We know what it is to struggle. 684 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,880 Khilli: So that came out on the newspaper 685 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:52,020 Khilli: And people are like 686 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Khilli: So 687 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:53,980 Khilli: Fucking 688 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,540 Khilli: So 689 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:55,860 Khilli: Hilarious 690 00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:56,040 Khilli: Like 691 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:56,860 Khilli: What? 692 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:57,180 Khilli: Like 693 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,100 Khilli: Because you didn't have a Mercedes Benz 694 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Khilli: Or you didn't have 695 00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:02,320 Khilli: Yeah you had the worst life ever 696 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:02,740 Khilli: That's why like 697 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:04,720 Khilli: You had like a Toyota or something 698 00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:05,380 Khilli: That's why like 699 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Khilli: That's why you're 700 00:20:18,170 --> 00:20:18,280 Khilli: That 701 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,019 Khilli: You struggled a lot. 702 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,399 Khilli: Every time 703 00:20:10,399 --> 00:20:13,740 Adam: I had to put the key in my Ford, I was crying. 704 00:20:14,029 --> 00:20:15,320 Adam: Everyone was making fun of me. 705 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,440 Adam: You couldn't go to Europe 706 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,159 Khilli: for your holidays. 707 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,460 Khilli: That's struggle. 708 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Khilli: Yes, right. 709 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:18,940 Khilli: In India. 710 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,779 Khilli: It's the context of India, right? 711 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,899 Khilli: It's not the context of US or something. 712 00:20:23,019 --> 00:20:24,620 Khilli: It's the context of India. 713 00:20:25,179 --> 00:20:25,279 Khilli: Yeah. 714 00:20:26,299 --> 00:20:27,039 Khilli: It's absurd. 715 00:20:36,159 --> 00:20:36,679 Adam: They... 716 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:29,940 Khilli: And 717 00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:45,980 Adam: the conflict comes because she's in a high class where she gets a new car every year and everyone's just filthy rich. And then the guy she wants to be with is in a lower class of being a very upper class class. 718 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:46,460 Adam: person 719 00:20:46,460 --> 00:20:52,860 Adam: with like a doctor for a father and an incredibly nice home and he's like too lower 720 00:20:53,220 --> 00:21:00,460 Adam: class for them but he is already insultingly rich let alone her level so again it becomes just 721 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,360 Adam: incredibly unrelatable because when they're like this disgusting poor person wants to like date you 722 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:06,679 Adam: and then you see like 723 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,760 Adam: an incredibly huge house 724 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Adam: and cars 725 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:13,299 Adam: and like a rich family as well 726 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:14,080 Adam: and you're just like 727 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,679 Adam: if this is what they're calling poor 728 00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:16,059 Adam: like 729 00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:18,220 Adam: what is my life? 730 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:19,639 Adam: He belongs 731 00:21:19,639 --> 00:21:20,940 Khilli: to the top 5% 732 00:21:21,070 --> 00:21:22,720 Khilli: of the population. 733 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,640 Khilli: Right, but is that fun for anyone to 734 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,220 Adam: watch that's outside of that bubble? 735 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,820 Adam: That's what I think this movie completely failed on. 736 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:29,160 Adam: But it's 737 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,200 Winnie: interesting because like Kapiku Shikabigam had the same level of wealth. 738 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:35,060 Winnie: Most of current Johar films always had the same level of wealth. 739 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:38,080 Winnie: And it related with the generation of that time. 740 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Winnie: They still ate that up. 741 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:42,280 Winnie: But this time, like this movie has been rejected by Gen Z completely. 742 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:44,740 Adam: Why do you think that is? 743 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:46,520 Adam: I'm trying to figure it out too. 744 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,140 Adam: Why did 745 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,040 Adam: that 746 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920 Adam: level of wealth back then work better? 747 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Winnie: Because there's woke capitalism now, I guess. 748 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,260 Winnie: There's a lot of wokeness and there's more anti-elitism. 749 00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:00,460 Winnie: anti-apriclass. 750 00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:00,880 Winnie: But 751 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,880 Adam: those movies, 752 00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:03,240 Adam: I think that he did back then, 753 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,600 Adam: do feel more dreamlike, 754 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:05,040 Adam: I guess, 755 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:07,360 Adam: or just like completely fantastical. 756 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,060 Adam: Well, back then, 757 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Adam: I think we 758 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,180 Winnie: still bought 759 00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:10,480 Winnie: into the idea of like 760 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,700 Winnie: the American dream 761 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:12,960 Winnie: or the capitalist dream, right? 762 00:22:13,060 --> 00:22:14,480 Winnie: Where like you can work hard 763 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,720 Winnie: and attain that level of wealth 764 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:16,280 Winnie: that they have. 765 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,380 Winnie: Right now, we know, 766 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:18,280 Winnie: like 20 years later, 767 00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:19,920 Winnie: we know that that's impossible. 768 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:21,200 Winnie: So we don't find it relatable 769 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,100 Winnie: or even desirable anymore. 770 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Adam: Yeah. 771 00:22:24,020 --> 00:22:24,420 Adam: That's what I'm saying. 772 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:25,340 Adam: This would be like 773 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Adam: the perfect propaganda film 774 00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:27,260 Adam: for Mao. 775 00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:28,420 Adam: To just be like, 776 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:33,820 Adam: just chopped everyone's heads off in these like these people offer nothing they have nothing like 777 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:38,780 Adam: a value to give like they are just complete parasites living like an extravagant wealth 778 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,600 Adam: that are just doing nothing like and and our and the worst crimes we had to like watch them do it 779 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,220 Adam: and they think it's like a good movie 780 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:47,140 Adam: and 781 00:22:47,140 --> 00:22:50,460 Adam: also the plot sucks so what's the plot 782 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:51,860 Adam: so what's 783 00:22:51,860 --> 00:22:55,200 Nicky: the plot well adam adam briefly mentioned it but it's 784 00:22:55,299 --> 00:22:58,779 Nicky: Has this like very rich socialite girl. 785 00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:00,139 Nicky: I don't even know the actress. 786 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,919 Adam: She has 300,000 followers on Instagram in the movie. 787 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,299 In 788 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:03,740 Nicky: the movie. 789 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:07,760 Nicky: She has like her best friends who she's at war with 790 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:11,840 Nicky: because there's this guy, we'll just call him the fuck boy. 791 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:15,620 Nicky: And he's like just always constantly harassing 792 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:16,600 Nicky: our main character. 793 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:19,220 Nicky: where he's like trying to get hooked up with her 794 00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:21,500 Nicky: and like her best friend has a crush on him 795 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,260 Nicky: and you know they don't want to speak to her 796 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,180 Nicky: because she's not doing anything to stop it 797 00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:28,920 Nicky: and like I guess you know 798 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240 Nicky: what the people want to know is that like 799 00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:34,060 Nicky: She is single as fuck. 800 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Nicky: And she doesn't, because of the shame that she has to live with. 801 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,880 Nicky: Because that's so relatable. 802 00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:41,460 Nicky: No, I think 803 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:43,400 Adam: it's because she was texting the guy. 804 00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:44,640 Adam: Yeah. 805 00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:45,320 Adam: She was 806 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:45,900 Khilli: not texting. 807 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:47,840 Khilli: She was not even replying. 808 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,740 Khilli: He was texting her. 809 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:49,300 Khilli: He was texting. 810 00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:50,440 Adam: She just stopped him. 811 00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:51,740 Adam: Okay, so, but whatever. 812 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:53,620 Adam: She's not afraid of being single. 813 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:58,740 Adam: But her best friend found out that the dude that she has a crush on has been texting her. 814 00:23:59,820 --> 00:24:02,060 Adam: And the friend hasn't totally shut it down. 815 00:24:02,270 --> 00:24:05,120 Adam: So therefore, she's ruining her best friend's life. 816 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:06,840 Adam: So the girl's like, no, no, no, I didn't tell you. 817 00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:07,240 Adam: I didn't. 818 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:08,760 Adam: No, I'm not flirting with him. 819 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:09,320 Adam: I have a boyfriend. 820 00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:10,100 I 821 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,020 Nicky: have a boyfriend who doesn't exist. 822 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Nicky: And that's where our Nepo baby main character comes in, Ibram. 823 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:18,520 Nicky: Rahim Ali Khan. 824 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:22,740 Nicky: He plays like this supposedly middle class character 825 00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:25,640 Nicky: that I do not relate with in any way. 826 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Adam: No middle class person lives like that. 827 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Adam: Yeah, 828 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:31,120 Nicky: and basically she's paying him to be her boyfriend. 829 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,380 Nicky: Nikki, 830 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,400 Khilli: talk about the introduction scene of the guy 831 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,860 Khilli: for where he wins the chance to be a debate team captain. 832 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,220 Khilli: Oh, yeah, we have to get to that. 833 00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:39,440 Khilli: Oh, my God. 834 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:39,800 Khilli: I 835 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,780 Nicky: totally forgot about that, man. 836 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,880 Nicky: Let's not forget. 837 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,500 Nicky: Yeah, it's like... 838 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:45,660 Nicky: That was the 839 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:46,080 Adam: best part. 840 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,520 Adam: So they're in the debate club. 841 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Nicky: They're in the debate club and there's this guy. 842 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Nicky: Was it the fuckboy that was like... 843 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,360 Nicky: No, 844 00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:52,800 Adam: it was like a debate guy. 845 00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:54,380 Adam: It was a debate bully. 846 00:24:54,620 --> 00:24:55,160 Nicky: Debate bully. 847 00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:56,580 Nicky: Okay. 848 00:24:57,980 --> 00:24:59,420 Nicky: And then he was saying... 849 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,540 Nicky: He was making fun of our main character 850 00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:03,520 Nicky: about his upbringing. 851 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,180 Nicky: And then he does this powerful speech 852 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,700 Nicky: where my family goes through hardships 853 00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:11,080 Nicky: and I'm career focused 854 00:25:11,420 --> 00:25:12,780 Nicky: and I come from Noida. 855 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:13,980 Nicky: Or something. 856 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:14,740 Nicky: Noida. 857 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:15,280 Nicky: I don't know. 858 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,480 Nicky: And then, like... 859 00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:18,740 Nicky: I mean, by the end of the debate, 860 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,000 Nicky: the bully was, like, completely owned, 861 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:24,360 Nicky: and everyone was cheering for him, 862 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Nicky: and for whatever reason, 863 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:27,300 Nicky: our main character gets up 864 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,480 Nicky: and, like, strips... 865 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,380 Adam: Strips topless... 866 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,260 Adam: Yeah, he pulls his shirt up. 867 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,160 Nicky: I don't know. 868 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,820 Nicky: I cannot imagine in any situation realistically where someone would be so pumped they would strip naked. 869 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:39,960 Nicky: And a debate 870 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,500 Winnie: club. 871 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:41,840 Winnie: He's standing 872 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:48,740 Adam: over them and they're all like clapping as he's just holding his shirt up to show off his six pack. 873 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:52,280 Adam: at the debate club after he owned someone with logic yeah 874 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,740 Khilli: it was the last card of up up on his 875 00:25:54,919 --> 00:26:00,539 Khilli: sleeves to like we know what that is debate bully that like he has abs that's how he became like 876 00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:03,980 Khilli: that was the last nail on the coffin that he became the captain of 877 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,320 Adam: the debate this guy is so sexy we 878 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Adam: have to make him our leader this is debate club the 879 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120 Nicky: whole point of him bringing tablets is because 880 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,500 Nicky: it's a setup and 881 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,740 Nicky: for the girl to walk in on the debate club 882 00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:20,860 Nicky: to see that this man, this man will be my boyfriend. 883 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:22,540 Nicky: That's literally the point. 884 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,220 Nicky: - He's smart 885 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:24,440 Adam: and he works out. 886 00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:26,260 Adam: He just came to school. 887 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:29,680 Adam: So I'm gonna pretend that he's been dating me. 888 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,300 Adam: I'm gonna pay him. 889 00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:34,740 Khilli: - She's gonna pay him like 25,000 rupee per week. 890 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:35,100 Khilli: - Yeah. 891 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:37,240 Khilli: - Which is roughly like $300. 892 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:37,880 Khilli: - It's about 893 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,120 Adam: $300 a week. 894 00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:39,600 Adam: - Yeah. 895 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Adam: - So he's getting paid, that's solid. 896 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,120 Khilli: That's a lot for India. 897 00:26:44,899 --> 00:26:46,639 Khilli: What's the average wage for India? 898 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:53,419 Khilli: So if you've done a graduation, proper graduation, you get a job in an IT company. 899 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Khilli: Most probably you are getting paid that per month, not a week. 900 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:58,799 Khilli: So you get paid... 901 00:26:59,220 --> 00:26:59,520 Adam: 25 902 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,460 Khilli: ,000 per month 903 00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:02,360 Khilli: Yeah, if you're starting a job 904 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:04,920 Khilli: That's the usual white collar starting salary 905 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,440 Khilli: So 906 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Winnie: this 15,000 a week 907 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560 Winnie: He's getting like 60,000 a month 908 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,120 Khilli: No 909 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Khilli: 15 910 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Khilli: ,000 911 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,340 Khilli: 25,000 he's getting 912 00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:14,600 Khilli: Oh yeah, 913 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,420 Adam: 100,000 914 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:16,240 Khilli: 100,000 915 00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:17,480 Adam: So how much is 916 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Adam: 100 917 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,660 Khilli: ,000 is like a 918 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,860 Adam: So it's like a thousand dollars 919 00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:20,260 Adam: It's like 920 00:27:20,260 --> 00:27:22,700 Khilli: a mid-level corporate employee 921 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,260 Khilli: employee salary 922 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:23,919 Khilli: yeah 923 00:27:24,059 --> 00:27:25,100 Khilli: it's a very lucrative deal 924 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:25,639 Khilli: so again 925 00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:26,019 Adam: yeah 926 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:27,519 Adam: way unrelatable 927 00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:28,039 Adam: I think 928 00:27:28,090 --> 00:27:28,679 Adam: when you're like 929 00:27:28,899 --> 00:27:30,440 Adam: the majority of people 930 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,100 Adam: watching Netflix 931 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:31,659 Adam: being like 932 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:32,740 Adam: that is more than 933 00:27:32,850 --> 00:27:33,179 Adam: like my 934 00:27:33,399 --> 00:27:34,740 Adam: both my parents make 935 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:34,899 Adam: even 936 00:27:34,899 --> 00:27:35,539 Khilli: if a Gen Z 937 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:36,340 Khilli: sees it like 938 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:36,860 Khilli: if they're 939 00:27:37,019 --> 00:27:38,059 Khilli: their uncle 940 00:27:38,299 --> 00:27:38,559 Khilli: or like 941 00:27:38,779 --> 00:27:39,080 Khilli: like me 942 00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:39,559 Khilli: or like 943 00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:52,679 Khilli: um 944 00:27:41,419 --> 00:27:48,139 Khilli: like elder cousins or like brothers or sisters they're earning people and they were like none of 945 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:53,399 Khilli: them even even the pairs none of them earn that much of money it's crazy how insulting is 946 00:27:53,399 --> 00:27:53,620 Adam: that if 947 00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:59,260 Adam: you watch then you're like this high schooler is getting paid this much to take a few photos with 948 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,679 Adam: this woman yeah i would my eyes would go red 949 00:28:02,679 --> 00:28:03,419 yeah 950 00:28:03,419 --> 00:28:04,000 Adam: yeah you 951 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Nicky: have you get this cringe worthy like montage 952 00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:08,200 Nicky: where like they 953 00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:10,360 Nicky: she started taking photos of him 954 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,960 Nicky: yeah photos of him 955 00:28:12,049 --> 00:28:12,960 Nicky: sharing his like 956 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:14,080 Nicky: like you know 957 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:15,299 Nicky: doing like a soft launch 958 00:28:15,429 --> 00:28:15,880 Nicky: as they would 959 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,220 Nicky: as the kids would call it 960 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:17,720 Nicky: these days 961 00:28:18,179 --> 00:28:18,880 Nicky: soft launch 962 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:19,940 Nicky: where you like subtly 963 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,640 Nicky: like reveal certain parts 964 00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:22,179 Nicky: of your 965 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Nicky: partner have you guys ever done that also i've done that in the past yes 966 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,340 the 967 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,200 Winnie: fact that nobody 968 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,279 Winnie: recognized that it was him even though there were parts where like you could see his body 969 00:28:34,059 --> 00:28:37,620 Winnie: and he showed off his six pack to all these guys before yeah 970 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:39,480 Adam: they all studied that they 971 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,760 Adam: know exactly what he looks like 972 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,340 and 973 00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:44,260 Nicky: then that resolves the conflict that we had in the beginning 974 00:28:44,659 --> 00:28:47,500 Nicky: like oh you know her friends didn't like her 975 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,340 Nicky: because you know they thought that she was having an affair with the the fuck boy and then they 976 00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:58,340 Nicky: easily like wrap that plot point completely right that's the other issue with the movie 977 00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:58,780 Adam: there's no 978 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Adam: primary driving yeah because it just it's very episodic it just keeps going to one issue to the 979 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:09,660 Adam: next like we need to talk about class issue and then race issue and parent issue and they just 980 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Adam: kind of hit all the checklists you know 981 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,760 i 982 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Winnie: feel like there was almost no social commentary 983 00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:15,240 Winnie: They tried to. 984 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,780 Winnie: There was a gender. There was a class. 985 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,260 Winnie: They 986 00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:18,920 Khilli: tried to. 987 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,740 Khilli: It poses as a social commentary. 988 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,540 Khilli: I'm not saying it did it well. 989 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,320 Adam: I'm just saying 990 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:25,300 Adam: check 991 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:26,300 Adam: things off its list. 992 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,700 Khilli: And the point 993 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,140 Khilli: that it's so regressive. 994 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,780 Khilli: The film is so regressive 995 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Khilli: in its social outlook. 996 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,140 Khilli: It's nauseating. 997 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:37,060 Khilli: Like how though? 998 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,300 Khilli: This girl, you're showing this girl 999 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,400 Khilli: is like 1000 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:49,120 Khilli: like sidelining the main actor because she is not stopping a stalker to... 1001 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:57,780 Khilli: He was definitely stalking her and like harassing her over messages and stuff. 1002 00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:57,920 Khilli: But then 1003 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,700 Winnie: he addresses it later on in his speech about how they're not real friends, if they're going to do that. 1004 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:05,400 Winnie: So I feel like they end up painting that 1005 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,200 Winnie: friendship 1006 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,620 Winnie: dynamic in a negative light to show that it's wrong. 1007 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Winnie: And then there was a whole point about empowering her to, 1008 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:12,640 Winnie: you 1009 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Winnie: know, be a lawyer woman because her dad always wanted a son. 1010 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:20,900 Winnie: So I feel like they tried to be progressive to appeal to the Gen Z crowd. 1011 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,240 Winnie: But the context of the film was so unrelatable that I don't think any of the messages really got across. 1012 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Adam: This is a genuine question I have. 1013 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:35,640 Adam: So a major plot point is the dad hasn't had dinner with them, I guess, her whole life. 1014 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,380 Adam: Because when the boy comes over, she's like, this is the first time dad's ever had dinner with me or something. 1015 00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:46,400 Adam: And she thinks that her dad's never talked to her because he always wanted a son and was disappointed that he had a daughter. 1016 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:56,780 Adam: Now, but my question is, well, the dad is surprised that she wants to be a lawyer and has never, ever asked her any questions or knows anything about her. 1017 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,620 Adam: And he says, no, that's not the reason why I never talked to you. 1018 00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:01,580 Adam: But what was the reason? 1019 00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:02,740 Adam: Like, did I miss it? 1020 00:31:03,050 --> 00:31:05,340 Adam: Or did he ever explain why he never did? 1021 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:09,040 Adam: Because he did say, like, it's not because you're a woman. 1022 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,840 Adam: I didn't need a son. 1023 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:11,100 Adam: I 1024 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,620 Khilli: think he was gaslighting her. 1025 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:12,860 Khilli: But 1026 00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:14,920 Adam: I didn't understand what he did. 1027 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:16,600 Adam: What was the reason he never did her with her? 1028 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:16,820 Adam: He assumed 1029 00:31:16,820 --> 00:31:20,260 Winnie: that she was going to go to university for art or crafts or something like that. 1030 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:23,320 Winnie: So it might have just been that he never saw her in an intellectual light. 1031 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,540 Winnie: creative at most 1032 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,660 Winnie: because she's a woman 1033 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Winnie: reason 1034 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Khilli: to talk to her 1035 00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:27,440 Khilli: yeah 1036 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:27,920 Winnie: he's like why 1037 00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:28,620 Adam: can I talk to 1038 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:28,920 Adam: someone 1039 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Adam: who's gonna go to 1040 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,800 Khilli: an art school 1041 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:31,820 Winnie: it's not because 1042 00:31:31,910 --> 00:31:32,180 Winnie: of women 1043 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,680 Winnie: it's a traditional 1044 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,380 Winnie: gender role 1045 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:34,260 Winnie: that he just used 1046 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:34,920 Winnie: to judge his own 1047 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,160 Winnie: daughters 1048 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:36,180 Winnie: of getting to know her 1049 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:36,760 Khilli: so the men 1050 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,820 Khilli: never talk to women 1051 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:38,620 Khilli: in the family 1052 00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:39,460 Khilli: like the men 1053 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,380 Khilli: never talk to their women kids. 1054 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:41,679 Khilli: Yeah. 1055 00:31:42,019 --> 00:31:43,200 Khilli: Because at first they decide, 1056 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:44,600 Khilli: they think, 1057 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,679 Khilli: they already decide that, 1058 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,179 Khilli: oh, they're not going to be smart 1059 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:49,039 Khilli: because they're women. 1060 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:52,100 Khilli: And oh, I don't want to talk to an unsmart kid. 1061 00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:53,380 Adam: But then he said, 1062 00:31:53,429 --> 00:31:53,820 Adam: no, no, no. 1063 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,179 Adam: Like, it's not because of that. 1064 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,460 Adam: It's not because I wanted a son. 1065 00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,639 Adam: But I never heard the part of why he did do that then. 1066 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,679 Adam: and I couldn't figure out if I missed it or not. 1067 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:03,559 Adam: He just never answers why. 1068 00:32:04,019 --> 00:32:05,620 Adam: So he just completely ignored her, 1069 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:06,700 Adam: didn't have dinner with her, 1070 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:07,779 Adam: not because she's a girl, 1071 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:09,240 Adam: but just because he's a bad father 1072 00:32:09,340 --> 00:32:10,299 Adam: would have done it to anyone. 1073 00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:13,519 Khilli: Something to do with the mother as well. 1074 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:15,220 Khilli: So the mother was complaining that, 1075 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:16,500 Khilli: okay, in this family, 1076 00:32:16,779 --> 00:32:18,519 Khilli: like if you cannot provide a son, 1077 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:19,980 Khilli: quote unquote, provide a son, 1078 00:32:20,419 --> 00:32:22,059 Khilli: that you don't have respect as a wife. 1079 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,820 Khilli: So she was always up about like, 1080 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,340 Khilli: up on his ass about like, 1081 00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:29,679 Khilli: okay, 1082 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,220 Khilli: producing a son 1083 00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:31,140 Khilli: and then since 1084 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,380 Khilli: she was always about 1085 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:35,020 Khilli: making a son 1086 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,840 Khilli: the guy was disgusted about her 1087 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,040 Khilli: so he started a relationship with another 1088 00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:41,520 Khilli: woman outside 1089 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:43,660 Khilli: and then she was like 1090 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:45,740 Khilli: no I did it because that was expected 1091 00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:48,060 Khilli: of me from this family that's why I was 1092 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,980 Khilli: so up and he was 1093 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,880 Khilli: like I didn't want that and she's like 1094 00:32:51,910 --> 00:32:53,580 Khilli: who gives a fuck what you wanted 1095 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:56,000 Khilli: have you seen your father like how he 1096 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:56,560 Khilli: treats me 1097 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,340 Khilli: so it's 1098 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,380 Khilli: kind of 1099 00:32:58,660 --> 00:32:59,260 Khilli: tries to address 1100 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,200 Khilli: like a 1101 00:33:00,970 --> 00:33:01,660 Khilli: multi-tiered 1102 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,340 Khilli: fashion of 1103 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:02,580 Khilli: like 1104 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Khilli: gender roles 1105 00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:05,320 Khilli: in a 1106 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,120 Khilli: patriarchal 1107 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:06,780 Khilli: Indian family 1108 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,460 Khilli: where that 1109 00:33:07,550 --> 00:33:08,160 Khilli: I mean it's not 1110 00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:08,920 Khilli: only about husband 1111 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Khilli: husband is patriarchal 1112 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,380 Khilli: okay 1113 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,520 Khilli: but there would be 1114 00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:12,480 Khilli: another set of people 1115 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:13,480 Khilli: like your in-laws 1116 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:14,060 Khilli: who are all 1117 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,160 Khilli: more patriarchal 1118 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,140 Khilli: because they come from 1119 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:22,019 Khilli: the different generation and they will have the power still power over the dictation like how the 1120 00:33:22,090 --> 00:33:29,320 Khilli: family runs so the women end up like the the wives end up falling prey to the 1121 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:36,220 Khilli: patriarchy while practicing patriarchy as well so that that's kind of interesting because 1122 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:41,000 Khilli: to see but they saw they they i mean i cannot give the credit to the film 1123 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360 Khilli: because it was shown in like one sentence. 1124 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,720 Khilli: Yeah, they just showed the old grandfather sitting at the table. 1125 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,660 Khilli: I'm talking so much, so many things 1126 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,140 Khilli: because I've seen like many Bollywood films 1127 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,080 Khilli: and I'm from India. 1128 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:53,980 Khilli: I've seen these dynamics being played out again and again. 1129 00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:56,120 Khilli: So that's why I'm saying it. 1130 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Khilli: But in the film, it happens literally in one sentence. 1131 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,100 Adam: We should say, so he... 1132 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Adam: He has an affair and then she does give birth to a son. 1133 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Khilli: No, no, no. 1134 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,760 Khilli: It didn't reveal that. 1135 00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:09,600 Khilli: Well, we don't know if it's a son. 1136 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:10,179 Khilli: She gets 1137 00:34:10,179 --> 00:34:10,520 Adam: pregnant. 1138 00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:10,980 Khilli: Yeah. 1139 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,760 Adam: And then he finds out, like, the girl sees it flashing on, like, the dad's cell phone. 1140 00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:20,980 Adam: So they find out he's been cheating and then he immediately gets a divorce. 1141 00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:23,359 Adam: He's like, I have a new family. 1142 00:34:24,179 --> 00:34:24,980 Adam: I'm leaving now. 1143 00:34:25,539 --> 00:34:25,639 Adam: Bye. 1144 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:29,679 Adam: That's just how it goes, which is the least Indian thing I've ever seen in my life. 1145 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:30,039 Adam: I mean, you 1146 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:33,260 Khilli: cannot have like you were a millionaire, like an industrialist. 1147 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,580 Khilli: You cannot have one kid out of your wedlock. 1148 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,060 Adam: It 1149 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:39,380 Khilli: was good 1150 00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:40,400 Winnie: rationalizing. 1151 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:43,480 Adam: I'm just saying he goes so against the grain, 1152 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,260 Adam: but they made it seem like that's the rule. 1153 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,280 Adam: I think they're also 1154 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,580 Winnie: maybe trying to show the progressiveness of the film. 1155 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,340 Winnie: What is the 1156 00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:50,200 Adam: progressiveness here? 1157 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:51,060 Winnie: Divorce is allowed. 1158 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:03,280 Winnie: Divorce is allowed. 1159 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:51,860 Winnie: Right? 1160 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:52,580 Winnie: Because like... 1161 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:52,639 Winnie: What? 1162 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,320 Winnie: You leave your wife? 1163 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:56,580 Adam: The mom like lost everything. 1164 00:34:56,899 --> 00:34:57,680 Adam: You leave 1165 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Winnie: your wife 1166 00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:59,900 Winnie: because you cheated on 1167 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:00,140 Khilli: her 1168 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,100 Khilli: and had... 1169 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:02,500 Khilli: Like she didn't even ask for divorce. 1170 00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:03,180 Winnie: Yes, yes. 1171 00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:03,660 Winnie: I mean, 1172 00:35:03,790 --> 00:35:04,960 Winnie: I don't think it's progressive 1173 00:35:05,110 --> 00:35:06,040 Winnie: in the sense that the woman 1174 00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:07,020 Winnie: should have asked for the divorce 1175 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:08,000 Winnie: but in the sense that 1176 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,100 Winnie: back in the day 1177 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:09,440 Winnie: you could 1178 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,200 have... 1179 00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:14,740 Khilli: You cheated on someone and then suddenly like, oh, get the fuck out of here. 1180 00:35:15,619 --> 00:35:16,480 Khilli: Because I cheated on you. 1181 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:17,440 Khilli: I'm going to abandon 1182 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Adam: my family. 1183 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,260 Adam: I'm so woke. 1184 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560 Winnie: But you don't really see divorce in other Indian movies. 1185 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,579 Winnie: So the fact that divorce is like... 1186 00:35:24,579 --> 00:35:24,980 Winnie: It's not that 1187 00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:25,400 Khilli: bad. 1188 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,940 Khilli: There are divorces. 1189 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,420 Khilli: There are divorces. 1190 00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:28,380 I 1191 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:30,740 Adam: mean, it's the most anti-Tai thing too, for the most part. 1192 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,680 Adam: Like where they're like, I have like... 1193 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,700 Adam: I'm not saying like everyone like cheats on their spouse or anything, but I've never seen... 1194 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,660 Adam: It were like the guy feels like it's a societal obligation to go be with the family he cheated on. 1195 00:35:45,070 --> 00:35:45,200 Adam: Okay, 1196 00:35:45,210 --> 00:35:46,079 Winnie: but what's the alternative? 1197 00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:49,820 Winnie: Because it seems like everyone knew he had an affair, right? 1198 00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:52,000 Winnie: They all knew he had a mistress. 1199 00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:52,560 Winnie: Take care of 1200 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,200 Khilli: both kids. 1201 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,520 Khilli: Yes, but... 1202 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:54,960 Khilli: He 1203 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,720 Adam: abandoned her and she got nothing. 1204 00:35:57,099 --> 00:35:59,220 Winnie: We don't know that. We don't know the divorce proceedings. 1205 00:35:59,349 --> 00:36:01,619 Winnie: We just saw the conversation where he said that he wants a divorce 1206 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,060 Winnie: because he's actually in love with his mistress. 1207 00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:04,900 Adam: And 1208 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:08,160 Khilli: why is she leaving the house again? 1209 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:11,740 Adam: Yeah, they lost money and had to move and stuff. 1210 00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:12,079 Adam: They went 1211 00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,520 Nicky: back to the grandmother's house. 1212 00:36:15,619 --> 00:36:17,560 Khilli: Because he cheated on her. 1213 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,380 Khilli: They have enough proof, like everything. 1214 00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:26,080 Khilli: I mean, definitely she would get like a whole lot of money. 1215 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:31,180 Khilli: And then like most probably the house is under the name of his father. 1216 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,700 Khilli: Then then. 1217 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,000 Khilli: But 1218 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,440 Winnie: we don't get too much exposure into the divorce. 1219 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:37,760 Winnie: I wish it was a 1220 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Adam: divorce. 1221 00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:39,240 Adam: I think the film was 1222 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:39,960 Khilli: about the divorce. 1223 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:40,680 Khilli: I 1224 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,660 Adam: want to see what a set she gets. 1225 00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:43,940 Adam: And okay, 1226 00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:45,820 Khilli: we almost had the 1227 00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:46,580 Khilli: three 1228 00:36:46,580 --> 00:36:47,500 Khilli: -fourths of the film 1229 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:48,800 Adam: at this point like, wow. 1230 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:49,620 Adam: Okay. 1231 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:57,360 Nicky: So the thing that I find so frustrating about this movie is that there's so much happening in that two-hour frame and yet I can't really remember 1232 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,380 Nicky: anything. 1233 00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:58,960 Nicky: So 1234 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,060 Khilli: many things happening and 1235 00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:00,140 Adam: nothing is remarkable. 1236 00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:01,300 Adam: Oh, they have Bonfire Night. 1237 00:37:01,580 --> 00:37:01,780 Adam: What is 1238 00:37:01,780 --> 00:37:02,460 Nicky: Bonfire Night? 1239 00:37:02,780 --> 00:37:03,000 Nicky: They keep 1240 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,100 Adam: talking about Bonfire Night and in subtitles it's capital letters but I asked... 1241 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,140 Adam: you and your niece and nephew 1242 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,240 Adam: they have no idea what bonfire night is 1243 00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:12,940 Adam: I assumed it was like a prom thing 1244 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Adam: it sounded like a prom thing 1245 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,420 Adam: it's nothing 1246 00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,000 Adam: but they acted like we all know what bonfire night is 1247 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,440 Adam: but we ended up 1248 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,540 Winnie: seeing the bonfire night 1249 00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:21,260 Winnie: there was no 1250 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:21,880 Adam: bonfire 1251 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,840 Adam: it 1252 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,560 Winnie: was like this AI 1253 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:25,260 Winnie: it was 1254 00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:26,700 like 1255 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:26,780 Adam: a 1256 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,360 Adam: postmodern arts 1257 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:28,840 Adam: sculpture 1258 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:29,280 Adam: yeah 1259 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,900 Winnie: there was no 1260 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:30,340 Winnie: bonfire 1261 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:31,620 Winnie: so what 1262 00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:32,520 Adam: but that's why 1263 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,160 Adam: it makes me think 1264 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Adam: bonfire is even 1265 00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:34,640 Adam: more of a thing 1266 00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:35,140 Adam: because like it 1267 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:35,840 Adam: used to be a 1268 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,460 Adam: bonfire 1269 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:37,180 Adam: now it's like 1270 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:37,860 Adam: these lights 1271 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:38,840 Adam: but no one 1272 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,380 Adam: has any clue 1273 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,060 Adam: what bonfire 1274 00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:40,560 Adam: night is 1275 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,400 Adam: but they put a 1276 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,940 Adam: lot of lore 1277 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:42,380 Adam: into what 1278 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,300 Adam: bonfire night 1279 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,220 Adam: is in the movie 1280 00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:45,460 I 1281 00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:47,420 Khilli: can't understand what they were doing here. 1282 00:37:47,789 --> 00:37:51,059 Khilli: They were showing that it's a tradition in the school 1283 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,339 Khilli: or in that fictional world that these people live in. 1284 00:37:56,839 --> 00:38:00,660 Khilli: And everyone knows about Bonfire Night in the film. 1285 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:14,880 Adam: Yeah. 1286 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,380 Khilli: And we kind of accept that. 1287 00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:06,140 Khilli: Okay, for you guys, Bonfire Night is a big thing. 1288 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,740 Khilli: And we accept that and we watch on that context because no one has Bonfire Night. 1289 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,980 Khilli: Like in Delhi, what the hell? 1290 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:14,060 Khilli: I 1291 00:38:14,060 --> 00:38:16,820 Adam: think it's a secret, rich, elite thing that they do. 1292 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:17,600 Adam: Yeah, that we don't know. 1293 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,420 Adam: Where they have a big bonfire and they throw all the plans and the virgins in. 1294 00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:22,720 Adam: Where all the matchmaking happens. 1295 00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:25,600 Khilli: Like all the industrial matchmaking. 1296 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,820 Khilli: Yeah, they plot out the next 1297 00:38:26,820 --> 00:38:28,700 Adam: 10 years over the bonfire. 1298 00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:30,020 Adam: And 1299 00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:30,819 Adam: now the kids do it. 1300 00:38:30,819 --> 00:38:31,039 Adam: All the 1301 00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:31,839 Khilli: startup discussions. 1302 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,400 Khilli: Like what? 1303 00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:34,059 Khilli: Oh, shoot. 1304 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:35,420 Khilli: That is the... 1305 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,240 Khilli: Oh, we have to get to the startups, right? 1306 00:38:37,339 --> 00:38:37,760 Khilli: No, remember that? 1307 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240 Adam: His dream, remember? 1308 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:39,660 Adam: Oh, yeah, 1309 00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:39,839 Khilli: dream. 1310 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,059 Khilli: Okay, before that, we have to be thankful to Netflix. 1311 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:44,039 Khilli: Do you remember that? 1312 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:45,720 Khilli: Like, what are you thankful for today? 1313 00:38:46,099 --> 00:38:49,240 Adam: Yeah, Netflix was advertising itself on the movie. 1314 00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:49,520 Adam: They 1315 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,400 Nicky: always get a shout out in every... 1316 00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:51,760 Nicky: property 1317 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:52,299 Nicky: okay 1318 00:38:52,299 --> 00:38:53,099 Adam: we have to talk about 1319 00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:53,680 Adam: the mood board 1320 00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:54,180 Adam: do you remember 1321 00:38:54,279 --> 00:38:54,720 Adam: vision board 1322 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,380 Adam: vision board 1323 00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:56,299 Adam: sorry not mood board 1324 00:38:56,549 --> 00:38:56,640 Adam: yeah 1325 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,220 Adam: so he has a vision 1326 00:38:58,319 --> 00:38:59,200 Adam: everyone has a vision board 1327 00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:59,700 Adam: in this movie 1328 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,839 Adam: including the very poor guy 1329 00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:03,500 Adam: and his vision 1330 00:39:04,319 --> 00:39:04,799 Adam: is to become 1331 00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:05,220 Adam: his 1332 00:39:05,539 --> 00:39:06,220 Adam: is to like 1333 00:39:06,299 --> 00:39:06,920 Adam: get rich or something 1334 00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:07,700 Adam: go to a nice university 1335 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,460 Adam: and then 1336 00:39:08,789 --> 00:39:09,480 Adam: come back to India 1337 00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:10,119 Adam: and make an app 1338 00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:10,680 Adam: no no no no 1339 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,099 Khilli: no 1340 00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,420 Khilli: He was not supposed to go to outside. 1341 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:15,120 Khilli: So that's why I was shouting, 1342 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,880 Khilli: how does it change anything to your plan 1343 00:39:18,070 --> 00:39:19,860 Khilli: if you go abroad to study? 1344 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:20,260 Adam: Well, okay. 1345 00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:22,200 Adam: So the end goal though is he wants to make an app 1346 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,940 Adam: that connects common people to lawyers, 1347 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,020 Adam: which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard 1348 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:28,560 Adam: because I think that already exists. 1349 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,400 Adam: They do have lawyers 1350 00:39:30,490 --> 00:39:31,640 Adam: and I don't think that solves the issue 1351 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600 Adam: of them affording the lawyer or not. 1352 00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:35,860 Adam: I don't think the issue is finding one. 1353 00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:38,020 Adam: I think it's, can I afford a lawyer and would that help? 1354 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,920 Adam: So yes, this guy wanted to make an app to 1355 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,080 connect 1356 00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,760 Khilli: lawyers to common people. 1357 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,220 Khilli: It could be also that 1358 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:47,060 Khilli: so you have like a slight problem 1359 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,980 Khilli: and you don't want to hire 1360 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:50,420 Khilli: a whole lawyer for it. 1361 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:51,800 Khilli: You just go to the app, 1362 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,660 Khilli: post a question 1363 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,340 Khilli: and there are like 1364 00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:53,980 Khilli: a bunch of lawyers, 1365 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:56,580 Khilli: paid lawyers by the app companies. 1366 00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:58,800 Khilli: who will see your question and answer it like, 1367 00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,920 Khilli: oh yeah, you can do this. 1368 00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:01,780 Khilli: And if for more action, okay, 1369 00:40:01,940 --> 00:40:02,980 Adam: you can hire someone. 1370 00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:03,840 Adam: That would be a nice... 1371 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:04,740 Adam: You put more thought into it, 1372 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:07,380 Adam: but he acted like it was going to be a guaranteed hit. 1373 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:08,640 Adam: Because I'm not a 17-year-old. 1374 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,180 Adam: So why did he not want to leave India for this? 1375 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,000 Adam: Yeah, that 1376 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,120 Khilli: made no sense. 1377 00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:14,660 Khilli: So in his vision board, 1378 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,700 Khilli: he's going to the top law university area 1379 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,099 Khilli: in India, and then he becomes topper every semester, 1380 00:40:24,099 --> 00:40:26,920 Khilli: and then he gets the best job possible 1381 00:40:27,329 --> 00:40:31,359 Khilli: from the law college, and then he saves up some money 1382 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,859 Khilli: for a few years, and then he opens the app. 1383 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,060 Khilli: That's his vision board. 1384 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,260 Khilli: And now, in this thing, it doesn't make any sense 1385 00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,359 Khilli: that why would he not go abroad? 1386 00:40:41,410 --> 00:40:43,560 Khilli: I mean, if he goes abroad, he can earn in like, 1387 00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:50,680 Khilli: like stronger currency and save the money quicker and then come back to India and make the app anyway. 1388 00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:51,040 Khilli: So 1389 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,800 Khilli: what 1390 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,780 Khilli: is stopping him? 1391 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,280 Winnie: He's from a middle class family. 1392 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:56,700 Winnie: So he doesn't 1393 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,500 Khilli: want the education loan, but he was getting the full scholarship. 1394 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,760 Winnie: He did in the end, right after the girl encouraged him to aim higher. 1395 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:07,440 Khilli: No, that means Brieganzo was telling her. 1396 00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:11,000 Khilli: No, Brieganzo was already telling him that you will get the full scholarship. 1397 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:12,220 Khilli: That was so 1398 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,400 Adam: funny too, the way that they think scholarships work. 1399 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,200 Adam: Because her advisor, when he tell me if this is the case. 1400 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,380 Adam: Oh, a sports 1401 00:41:17,380 --> 00:41:22,180 Winnie: scholarship. He was banking on getting a sports scholarship because he was the captain of the swim team. 1402 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:23,000 Adam: Oh. 1403 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,359 Khilli: We never saw him swimming though. 1404 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:25,780 Khilli: Yeah, I don't remember that at all. 1405 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:27,859 Khilli: It was all in the awards. Oh my God. 1406 00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:31,140 Winnie: But that was his description, opening description. 1407 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,380 Adam: Oh, he was. 1408 00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:34,540 Adam: No, there was briefly 1409 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:35,820 Adam: he was in the pool, I think. 1410 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,440 Winnie: Yeah, yeah. 1411 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,420 Winnie: So he was going to get 1412 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:38,300 Winnie: a sports scholarship 1413 00:41:38,369 --> 00:41:39,300 Winnie: and then he did end up 1414 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,359 Winnie: in the end of the movie 1415 00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:41,700 Winnie: getting a sports scholarship. 1416 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,540 Adam: Good filmmaking. 1417 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,880 Winnie: He didn't get the 1418 00:41:44,089 --> 00:41:44,880 Winnie: sports scholarship? 1419 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,520 Winnie: What? 1420 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,700 Khilli: He didn't get the 1421 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,480 Khilli: D-Bitch scholarship? 1422 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:47,720 Khilli: I 1423 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:48,480 Winnie: mean, he became 1424 00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:49,480 Winnie: captain of the debate team 1425 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:50,880 Winnie: by showing off his six-pack. 1426 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:52,160 Winnie: So we never really see 1427 00:41:52,339 --> 00:41:53,180 Winnie: his lawyer skills 1428 00:41:53,290 --> 00:41:54,400 Winnie: or if he has the capacity 1429 00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:55,020 Winnie: to become a lawyer. 1430 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:56,579 Winnie: Maybe that's why he's banking on the app. 1431 00:41:56,799 --> 00:42:00,039 Adam: He got captain of the pool team with his good debate skills. 1432 00:42:01,180 --> 00:42:04,319 Winnie: And then he became captain of the debate team with his good swimming abs. 1433 00:42:06,539 --> 00:42:09,880 Adam: I think the way they just give him the scholarship, 1434 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680 Adam: like the college advisor is like, 1435 00:42:12,779 --> 00:42:16,119 Adam: you get the special scholarship where you can go to any school in the UK 1436 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,420 Adam: you want for free. 1437 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:24,220 Adam: we all just love you so much pick whatever school you want that is a very magical scholarship and i 1438 00:42:24,340 --> 00:42:28,560 Adam: think to every other kid that's just called having rich parents i don't think and they think that that 1439 00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:33,520 Adam: could just apply to anyone but you don't just have the advisor say like look the university's reached 1440 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:38,780 Adam: out and they just love you so much you can go to eddie uk and then he has a real tough choice to 1441 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,040 Adam: figure out where he wants to go 1442 00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:41,359 we 1443 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:42,099 Winnie: should talk about 1444 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:43,040 Winnie: how they fall in love 1445 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:44,079 Winnie: because it's a rom-com 1446 00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:45,000 Winnie: so this is kind of like 1447 00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:46,020 Winnie: central to the movie 1448 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,540 Winnie: how she pays for him 1449 00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:48,380 Winnie: and then eventually 1450 00:42:48,670 --> 00:42:48,900 Winnie: starts to fall 1451 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:49,520 Winnie: go back to Nikki 1452 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:49,760 Winnie: for 1453 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,079 Khilli: help 1454 00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:51,020 Nicky: for the plot 1455 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,400 Nicky: fuck man 1456 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:53,599 Nicky: all I remember 1457 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:54,400 Nicky: is that like 1458 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:55,020 Nicky: they have 1459 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:56,339 Nicky: there was that stupid 1460 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,980 Nicky: dinner scene 1461 00:42:57,130 --> 00:42:57,540 Nicky: where they 1462 00:42:58,060 --> 00:42:58,460 Nicky: I don't know 1463 00:43:00,339 --> 00:43:09,880 Nicky: uh what was pia the the lead girl she her father saw that you know arian has is like lawyer material 1464 00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:18,920 Nicky: or something and then like you know with arian's suggestion that uh pia should be in the debate team 1465 00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:24,000 Nicky: and then he was like defending her because her father was being like 1466 00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:26,460 Nicky: misogynistic, I guess. 1467 00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:27,900 Adam: The father didn't think that 1468 00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:29,740 Adam: girls can be lawyers. 1469 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:30,680 Nicky: No. 1470 00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:33,000 Nicky: But do you remember how she proved 1471 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,100 Nicky: that she can debate? 1472 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,240 Nicky: Vaccines. 1473 00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:37,600 Nicky: Being knowledgeable on 1474 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,920 Khilli: medicals. 1475 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,720 Khilli: Why vaccines shouldn't be free. 1476 00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:41,800 Khilli: Why vaccines 1477 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,200 Adam: should be for profit. 1478 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,840 Adam: And she gives a whole debate 1479 00:43:45,220 --> 00:43:47,000 Adam: on why we need to 1480 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,800 Adam: extract profit from the vaccine process. 1481 00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:53,200 Adam: And the dad almost breaks down in tears because he's like, 1482 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,000 Adam: that's the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. 1483 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:55,780 Nicky: Yeah. 1484 00:43:55,790 --> 00:43:57,120 Nicky: It was the most foreseen. 1485 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,200 Nicky: I hated it. 1486 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,160 Nicky: I was very angry 1487 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,240 Adam: at that moment that she like, 1488 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,180 Adam: first of all, 1489 00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:06,920 Adam: she uses debate points that like any dumb baby can come out, 1490 00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:07,420 Adam: come up with. 1491 00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:09,380 Adam: But then the fact that her father's like, 1492 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,120 Adam: you're a genius. 1493 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:10,920 Adam: Like I, 1494 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:11,560 Adam: wow, 1495 00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:13,100 Adam: we could make money from vaccines. 1496 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:13,640 Adam: You're right. 1497 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:14,900 Adam: I never thought about it this way. 1498 00:44:15,580 --> 00:44:15,900 Adam: Like, 1499 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,400 Adam: That's very morally bankrupt 1500 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,140 Adam: That they're 1501 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,140 Adam: They're applauding her 1502 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:20,760 Adam: On this point 1503 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:21,359 Khilli: Yeah 1504 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,619 Khilli: I think the father 1505 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,619 Khilli: Realizes that 1506 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,599 Khilli: The women can be 1507 00:44:24,859 --> 00:44:26,160 Khilli: Equally morally bankrupt 1508 00:44:26,579 --> 00:44:26,660 Khilli: Yeah 1509 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,200 Khilli: And be part of our business 1510 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:28,820 Adam: Yeah 1511 00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:30,000 Khilli: She can run 1512 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,380 Winnie: my business 1513 00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:30,980 Winnie: Because it's harder 1514 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,380 Winnie: To argue for that 1515 00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:32,880 Winnie: The fact that 1516 00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:33,740 Winnie: That vaccines 1517 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,119 Winnie: should be charged. 1518 00:44:35,539 --> 00:44:35,980 Winnie: And she didn't do 1519 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:36,940 Winnie: a great job at it. 1520 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,660 Winnie: She did. 1521 00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:38,339 Winnie: Ish. 1522 00:44:38,789 --> 00:44:39,420 Winnie: Enough for her dad. 1523 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,700 Winnie: Her dad's 1524 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:40,980 Khilli: a dummy. 1525 00:44:41,319 --> 00:44:42,299 Khilli: Enough for how things 1526 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:43,400 Khilli: are running in this film. 1527 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:44,160 Khilli: But it's actually 1528 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:45,020 Khilli: interesting that 1529 00:44:45,089 --> 00:44:45,960 Winnie: they chose this. 1530 00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:47,079 Winnie: Like, you know, 1531 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Winnie: if you think about 1532 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:48,339 Winnie: the director of the movie, 1533 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,700 Winnie: why they chose this debate, 1534 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:51,299 Winnie: that art side of the argument 1535 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:52,000 Winnie: to present 1536 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,200 Yeah, 1537 00:44:53,350 --> 00:44:57,660 Adam: it is a good, yes, this is a message they want to say. 1538 00:44:58,020 --> 00:44:58,840 Winnie: Exactly, exactly. 1539 00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:59,800 Adam: They chose that. 1540 00:45:00,670 --> 00:45:03,700 Adam: Yeah, and I think it's going to fall on deaf ears. 1541 00:45:03,850 --> 00:45:05,520 Adam: I don't know how many people love to hear that. 1542 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,780 What was 1543 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:07,040 Khilli: the debate? 1544 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,200 Khilli: I don't think the writer ever has been a part of the debate team. 1545 00:45:12,860 --> 00:45:16,940 Khilli: Because in debate competition, you cannot choose for or against, I guess. 1546 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,180 Khilli: It's a decision. 1547 00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:18,860 Khilli: You were assigned. 1548 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:21,840 Khilli: So he was like, why did you choose this side? 1549 00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:25,040 Khilli: Because the other side would have been easier to defend. 1550 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,580 Khilli: And she said, no, I wanted to show something that I can win a 1551 00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:31,980 Adam: harder argument. 1552 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,880 Adam: I'm like, no, you cannot choose. 1553 00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:39,360 Adam: Her argument was that vaccines cost money to make. 1554 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,880 Adam: and so we need to pay for it. 1555 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:41,940 Adam: Well, 1556 00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:42,980 Winnie: basically also that 1557 00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:44,220 Winnie: you need to be able to fund 1558 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,900 Winnie: future studies for future vaccines. 1559 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,240 Winnie: So you need to be able to 1560 00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:48,220 Winnie: contribute to it 1561 00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:49,340 Winnie: so that it's more sustainable. 1562 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:50,260 Winnie: If it's free, 1563 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,180 Winnie: then research would not be sustainable. 1564 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:52,840 Winnie: I don't 1565 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,320 Khilli: think any 1566 00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,280 Khilli: any set group of people 1567 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,660 Khilli: who like 1568 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Khilli: argues for 1569 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,860 Khilli: free 1570 00:46:00,860 --> 00:46:01,300 Khilli: vaccine, 1571 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:02,820 Khilli: wants 1572 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:04,940 Khilli: the researcher to be not paid. 1573 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:08,660 Khilli: Or like to have no future vaccines. 1574 00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:11,640 Winnie: If you think about how much money the pharma industry is bringing in, 1575 00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:13,240 Winnie: like you really don't need to charge for the vaccines. 1576 00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:15,360 Winnie: They have more than enough to be able to cover more science and development. 1577 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,760 Winnie: We can't regulate that with 1578 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,760 Khilli: the capitalist system. 1579 00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:18,780 Adam: Yeah, it's fine. 1580 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,700 Adam: We got polio just fine and people didn't stop making vaccines because... 1581 00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:23,200 Adam: because of it. 1582 00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:24,480 Adam: It's okay. 1583 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:24,880 Adam: - But 1584 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,540 Winnie: this point kinda is in trend 1585 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,940 Winnie: with the theme of the movie, right? 1586 00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:31,320 Winnie: Being very pro elite, pro capitalism. 1587 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:33,500 Winnie: - Yeah, it's very revealing that 1588 00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:34,200 Adam: that's what they think 1589 00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:35,980 Adam: is like an interesting thing to talk about. 1590 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:37,400 Adam: It's very revealing. 1591 00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:40,599 Adam: But again, I think that's what is so revealing 1592 00:46:40,740 --> 00:46:42,720 Adam: is just how out of touch they are with everyone. 1593 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,760 Adam: and in more of an insult and i guess the the greatest sin is that the movie's not entertaining 1594 00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:52,900 Adam: i guess that's it because at least the older films were entertaining and so if you can't even be fun 1595 00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:56,240 Adam: to watch then it's just not and it's not relatable like 1596 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,440 Adam: of 1597 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,800 Adam: course you're going to get the ire of 1598 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,640 Adam: everyone it's 1599 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,180 Nicky: not relatable it's not memorable there's nothing that i i try to recount anything 1600 00:47:04,330 --> 00:47:05,300 Nicky: i don't remember anything 1601 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,360 Nicky: There was nothing fascinating about it. 1602 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,580 Nicky: So how does it 1603 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:08,800 Adam: end? 1604 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,500 Adam: They go to bonfire night? 1605 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,000 Nicky: We didn't cover one specific plot point. 1606 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,280 Nicky: It's when Pia's family gets a divorce. 1607 00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:21,180 Nicky: She meets her childhood friend, the rich boy. 1608 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,800 Khilli: Oh yeah. 1609 00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:23,520 Nicky: He's a prince. 1610 00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:24,300 Nicky: The prince. 1611 00:47:24,690 --> 00:47:25,340 Nicky: Oh, thank 1612 00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:25,600 Khilli: you. 1613 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:25,700 Khilli: Because 1614 00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:26,200 Nicky: that's normal. 1615 00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:28,100 Khilli: Been there. 1616 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:29,240 Khilli: How 1617 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:30,920 Adam: many princes do you swipe on Bumble? 1618 00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:31,880 Adam: Every day, 1619 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:32,420 Winnie: yeah. 1620 00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:35,600 Nicky: Yeah, the prince is like, I don't know 1621 00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:36,980 Nicky: He's like that 1622 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,760 Nicky: He's like that typical conflict in rom-kong 1623 00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:41,600 Nicky: The one that does all the misunderstanding 1624 00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:43,680 Nicky: They went out for one night 1625 00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:45,360 Nicky: And then people, because he's a prince 1626 00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:46,860 Nicky: Like people, the paparazzi 1627 00:47:47,620 --> 00:47:48,980 Nicky: Decided to take photos and videos 1628 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,680 Nicky: And upload it on social media 1629 00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:57,360 Nicky: And, you know, with a lot of debate competition going around, I don't remember a scene about debate at all. 1630 00:47:57,460 --> 00:47:57,960 Nicky: I don't remember 1631 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,200 Adam: anything. 1632 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:58,980 Adam: It was just abs. 1633 00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,020 Adam: It was just abs. 1634 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:07,740 Khilli: Because for debate, you have to actually study about the current politics or current topics and then write the right. 1635 00:48:08,820 --> 00:48:09,220 Khilli: argument 1636 00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:10,080 Khilli: for 1637 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,220 Khilli: to show on screen 1638 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,160 Khilli: that debate is happening 1639 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,760 Khilli: for the writers 1640 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:13,440 Khilli: right 1641 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,180 Khilli: they have to write 1642 00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:14,980 Khilli: proper arguments 1643 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:16,000 Khilli: to show on screen 1644 00:48:16,220 --> 00:48:17,180 Khilli: I think they didn't 1645 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,880 Khilli: want to do that 1646 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,940 Nicky: because like the thing 1647 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:19,820 Nicky: the whole reason 1648 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,940 Nicky: that they fell in love 1649 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,600 Nicky: is because they're 1650 00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:22,300 Nicky: preparing for debate 1651 00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:22,720 Nicky: right 1652 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,320 Nicky: yeah there was no debate 1653 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:24,980 Khilli: you're right 1654 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:25,840 Adam: there wasn't a debate 1655 00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:27,660 Khilli: watching a 1656 00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:29,120 Khilli: watching a sports film 1657 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,480 Khilli: without 1658 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Adam: without having 1659 00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:31,960 Adam: any sports involved 1660 00:48:32,260 --> 00:48:32,520 Khilli: in the 1661 00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:33,280 Khilli: it's like Mighty 1662 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,660 Adam: Ducks 1663 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:34,600 Adam: and they just never 1664 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:36,120 Adam: get on the ice rink 1665 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,660 Adam: at all 1666 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,400 Khilli: it's like 1667 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,280 Khilli: yeah 1668 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,220 Khilli: And that, no, okay. 1669 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,880 Khilli: There was another thing, like, when the paparazzi take photo 1670 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,840 Khilli: of... 1671 00:48:43,890 --> 00:48:49,740 Khilli: So, basically, she was, like, she was giving a hug to the prince guy, right? 1672 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:49,900 Khilli: Yes. 1673 00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:54,020 Khilli: But later, when we saw the photos, like, it was a very romantic stare. 1674 00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:56,820 Khilli: Like, they were, like, holding hands and, like, whatnot. 1675 00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:08,080 Khilli: Like... 1676 00:48:57,580 --> 00:48:58,220 Khilli: When did 1677 00:48:58,220 --> 00:48:59,300 Khilli: all that happen? 1678 00:48:59,460 --> 00:48:59,980 Khilli: Is it AI? 1679 00:49:00,580 --> 00:49:01,540 Khilli: It looked like AI manipulation. 1680 00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:03,480 Khilli: They took like a hugging photo. 1681 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,340 Khilli: He has six fingers. 1682 00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:07,880 Khilli: And then like they created those photos out of nowhere. 1683 00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:10,480 Khilli: Because never saw that happening. 1684 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,920 Khilli: Like they're holding like their arm and then like staring at, staring into each other's eye. 1685 00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:18,300 Khilli: Like a total romantic like... 1686 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,460 Khilli: pose that never happened. 1687 00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:22,660 Khilli: They were just walking side by side, 1688 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,300 Khilli: talking about things and then just hugged because he was very supportive to 1689 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:26,440 Khilli: her. 1690 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:26,760 Khilli: That's, 1691 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,420 Khilli: that's what happened. 1692 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,160 Khilli: And the photos came out. 1693 00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:30,120 Khilli: The mom wants 1694 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,000 Adam: her to be with the prince because he can, 1695 00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:35,660 Adam: he's just super rich and can give her all the money she needs. 1696 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,980 Adam: But also the guy that she is pining for is not poor again. 1697 00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:42,960 Adam: So like it's that's why it's not super. 1698 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,820 Adam: He's not living in the slums like his dad's a doctor. 1699 00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:46,600 Adam: They're all very rich. 1700 00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:49,060 Adam: He's getting a full fledged scholarship to the UK. 1701 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,140 Adam: He's fine. 1702 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,020 Adam: You know who we need in this film? 1703 00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:53,460 Adam: Who? 1704 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,240 Adam: He's called Dancer. 1705 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,960 Adam: Yeah, he would get a machine gun. 1706 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,880 Adam: He would do like the Matrix scene where he loads up on all this arsenal, go in there, 1707 00:50:04,359 --> 00:50:07,599 Adam: and act like a 12 year old in like a doomba just blowing the place up. 1708 00:50:07,859 --> 00:50:08,359 Adam: It 1709 00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:09,359 Nicky: sounds like a school shooting. 1710 00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:10,359 Nicky: He would. 1711 00:50:10,589 --> 00:50:11,140 Adam: He would commit. 1712 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,460 Adam: He would just be spraying everyone down. 1713 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:14,740 Adam: Just 1714 00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:16,500 Adam: so we don't condone the frontline shooting 1715 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,440 Adam: America 1716 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,140 Adam: Could you tell? 1717 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,480 Nicky: Just 1718 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,760 Nicky: Disclaimer we don't condone 1719 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,340 Nicky: School shooting in America 1720 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,640 My 1721 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,400 Adam: only solution 1722 00:50:28,450 --> 00:50:30,060 Adam: Is just gun fights? Yeah sorry 1723 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,640 Adam: My culture killy don't knock it 1724 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:32,880 Adam: He can dance the fuck 1725 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,540 Khilli: out of them 1726 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,780 Khilli: Right yes 1727 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,440 Khilli: Yeah, break dance, sure. 1728 00:50:37,780 --> 00:50:39,980 Khilli: And maybe like electrocute the guitar. 1729 00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:41,400 Khilli: With machine gun legs. 1730 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:42,640 Khilli: The debate mic stand, 1731 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,260 Khilli: electrocute the debate mic stand. 1732 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,820 Khilli: That would have been the fine thing. 1733 00:50:46,060 --> 00:50:46,740 Khilli: His mom could just 1734 00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:47,660 Adam: beat everyone over the head 1735 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,860 Adam: with an electrocuted microphone stand. 1736 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,020 Adam: Yeah, 1737 00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:53,880 Khilli: I mean that's 1738 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,120 Adam: what I was getting 1739 00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:04,620 Khilli: at like you know like when the rich versus poor narrative in Disco Dancer where he's literally living in the slum and then fighting the industry. 1740 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:05,480 Khilli: Correct, yeah. 1741 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,300 Khilli: And then here his doctors. 1742 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,240 Khilli: He's like a super rich dude. 1743 00:51:10,690 --> 00:51:11,980 Khilli: He's like a huge huge house. 1744 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,440 Khilli: And so there's no downside 1745 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,500 Adam: if she dates him that's the they keep trying to set that up as like he's from a different class 1746 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,080 Adam: His last name is bad. He's not a prince, 1747 00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:21,820 Khilli: but 1748 00:51:21,820 --> 00:51:23,440 Adam: he's like the biggest catch in the world 1749 00:51:23,650 --> 00:51:23,760 Adam: His 1750 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,920 Khilli: last name remember that all 1751 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,300 Adam: the kids were making fun of his last name 1752 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,320 Winnie: So they keep talking about where he's from not 1753 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,920 Winnie: What is the significance of no idea because 1754 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,900 Khilli: I lived in no idea sounds for no idea 1755 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:37,900 Khilli: Yeah, I think so because I lived near no idea. I mean 1756 00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:43,279 Khilli: Noida is this new place next to New Delhi, which falls. 1757 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,240 Khilli: So around New Delhi, there are like two places, Gurgaon and Noida. 1758 00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:51,599 Khilli: And with New Delhi, it kind of becomes national capital region, NCR. 1759 00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:57,500 Khilli: So where they would establish all the business, all the industries, because Delhi is like a small... 1760 00:51:57,940 --> 00:52:01,680 Khilli: not small, but it doesn't have enough space for expansions, right? 1761 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,980 Khilli: So they created this national capital region. 1762 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,140 Khilli: Noida is part of that. 1763 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,340 Khilli: Noida falls in another state, but... 1764 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,080 Khilli: But I saw it developed in front of my eyes, 1765 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:13,640 Khilli: and then it has huge society... 1766 00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:14,320 Khilli: It 1767 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,180 Khilli: has rich people. 1768 00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:15,960 Khilli: But see, that's the issue. 1769 00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:17,980 Adam: It's new rich. 1770 00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:19,720 Winnie: That's what they have with it. 1771 00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:21,120 Winnie: That's why the old rich is looking down upon it. 1772 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,020 Winnie: Yeah, it's new money. 1773 00:52:22,270 --> 00:52:22,900 Winnie: Okay, that makes sense. 1774 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,640 Winnie: So they hate it. 1775 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:24,600 Winnie: New money. 1776 00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:24,940 Winnie: Fakers. 1777 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,040 Adam: And 1778 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,300 Winnie: he does represent kind of like new money working class. 1779 00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:30,700 Winnie: His father is a doctor. 1780 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,460 Winnie: His mom's a teacher. 1781 00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:32,620 Winnie: He's actually worked for it, so they 1782 00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:33,060 Adam: hate him. 1783 00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:34,039 Adam: Oh yeah 1784 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,440 Adam: You work for your money 1785 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:36,020 Adam: Your dad 1786 00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:37,380 Adam: Disgusting 1787 00:52:37,539 --> 00:52:38,539 Adam: He saves people 1788 00:52:39,799 --> 00:52:40,279 Adam: Disgusting 1789 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:40,599 Adam: He 1790 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:41,660 Khilli: doesn't scams people 1791 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:42,440 Khilli: For money 1792 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,640 Khilli: Oh my god 1793 00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:44,140 Adam: Gross 1794 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:45,160 Adam: You can't marry him 1795 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,020 Adam: You have to marry the prince 1796 00:52:46,220 --> 00:52:47,140 Adam: That contributes nothing 1797 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:47,799 Adam: Yeah 1798 00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:48,559 Adam: He's much better 1799 00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:49,760 Nicky: New money 1800 00:52:49,859 --> 00:52:50,520 Nicky: Are we trying to say 1801 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,160 Nicky: The movie's doing 1802 00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:52,039 Nicky: A smart observation 1803 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,059 Nicky: yeah 1804 00:52:53,059 --> 00:52:54,099 Adam: very smart 1805 00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:54,559 Adam: we 1806 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,760 Winnie: are doing a smart observation for the dumb movie 1807 00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:57,920 Winnie: that can't be right 1808 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:00,940 Adam: they have like a huge axe to grind 1809 00:53:00,990 --> 00:53:02,020 Adam: with these new money crowds 1810 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,940 Adam: and this is their chance to say it 1811 00:53:04,799 --> 00:53:06,720 Khilli: and this guy is the personal 1812 00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:07,839 Khilli: doctor of a 1813 00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:09,820 Khilli: uber rich family so 1814 00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:12,120 Khilli: he's not even a struggling doctor 1815 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:12,860 Khilli: but he's the help 1816 00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:15,320 Winnie: for them it's the 1817 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,160 Adam: same as the serving 1818 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,740 Adam: you have a serving, you have a personal doctor 1819 00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:19,680 Adam: it's worthless, you know what I mean? 1820 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,480 Winnie: and his mom's a teacher at the school that they're at 1821 00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:24,440 Winnie: which obviously seems to be a very expensive 1822 00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:25,300 Winnie: private school 1823 00:53:25,940 --> 00:53:27,240 Winnie: so he gets in for free too 1824 00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:37,980 Adam: yeah 1825 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,220 Winnie: So also, yeah, he doesn't seem like he's doing that bad. 1826 00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:32,420 Adam: They both have to be employed, though, is the problem. 1827 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,620 Adam: And if any of those, if they lose their job, he's screwed. 1828 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,060 Adam: And that's a class you don't want to deal with. 1829 00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:39,760 Adam: And a prerequisite 1830 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,920 Winnie: is also white crime. 1831 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,100 Winnie: Your family has had to commit some sort of white crime to be eligible by. 1832 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,320 Winnie: bachelor 1833 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,000 Adam: correct 1834 00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:45,580 Adam: yeah 1835 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,760 Adam: so 1836 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:47,700 Adam: what 1837 00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:49,040 Adam: are we at the end 1838 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,020 Adam: I want to talk about 1839 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,560 Adam: the drama 1840 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,160 Adam: that Winnie found out 1841 00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:53,800 Adam: I want to talk about 1842 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,300 Adam: his statement 1843 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:55,420 Adam: I want to talk about 1844 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:55,800 Adam: the reaction 1845 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,160 Adam: the only thing 1846 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,460 Nicky: that I 1847 00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:58,020 Nicky: can only think about 1848 00:53:58,180 --> 00:53:58,580 Nicky: is that 1849 00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,380 Nicky: you know 1850 00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:00,280 Nicky: after the misunderstanding 1851 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:01,480 Nicky: with the prince occurred 1852 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,700 Nicky: like we get the scene 1853 00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:03,940 Nicky: where he kind of just 1854 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,040 Nicky: confronts 1855 00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:05,860 Nicky: Pia 1856 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:06,780 Nicky: and then 1857 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,060 Nicky: gives this speech 1858 00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:08,780 Nicky: about like 1859 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:09,680 Nicky: does the reveal 1860 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:10,580 Nicky: that he's been paid 1861 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,720 Nicky: to be her boyfriend 1862 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,400 Nicky: and then 1863 00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:19,000 Nicky: He makes a speech about how everyone is all you rich people are so fake with your social media and your likes and 1864 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,859 Nicky: That guy is sleeping around with a lot of women women and you should know that 1865 00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:25,480 Adam: And then the guy high-fives himself. He's like, yeah, I rule 1866 00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:26,599 Yeah, 1867 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,380 Nicky: that was like I feel like the best he was trying to make some sort of commentary on that 1868 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,859 Nicky: But it just feels so 1869 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,680 Nicky: half-baved, so... 1870 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:36,020 Nicky: Right. 1871 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:37,040 Nicky: If he, 1872 00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:38,520 Adam: again, was actually from 1873 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:40,080 Adam: like disco dancer world, 1874 00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:41,760 Adam: he would have legitimate criticisms. 1875 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,160 Adam: But because all these people 1876 00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:44,180 Adam: are in this rich bubble, 1877 00:54:45,780 --> 00:54:46,860 Adam: their only... 1878 00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:49,400 Adam: The only sin they think 1879 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,820 Adam: they're committing is like gossip 1880 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:52,620 Adam: or being a playboy perhaps. 1881 00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:55,540 Adam: Like their world is so small 1882 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,360 Adam: that they don't even know 1883 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,580 Adam: how people would legitimately 1884 00:54:58,980 --> 00:54:59,500 Adam: criticize them. 1885 00:55:00,359 --> 00:55:00,800 Adam: So 1886 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,400 Adam: it comes out super bland. 1887 00:55:03,369 --> 00:55:03,460 Nicky: Yeah. 1888 00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:09,500 Nicky: And then like, I guess to wrap it up, he tries to apply for like universities and then... 1889 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,540 Adam: And he gets it. He gets to go to any UK university once. 1890 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:16,980 Nicky: He gets it. But then like, I think we find out that it was Pia that sent the application for him. 1891 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:18,079 Nicky: Oh, his personal statement. 1892 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,400 Nicky: Personal statement. 1893 00:55:19,660 --> 00:55:20,780 Nicky: Cause his was too angry. 1894 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,640 Nicky: His was too angry. 1895 00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:23,200 Nicky: Oh, that made me... 1896 00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:23,780 Adam: That's right. 1897 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,060 Adam: Yeah, that's it. 1898 00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:26,040 Adam: That's right. 1899 00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:27,400 Adam: No, you're right. 1900 00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:34,760 Adam: He got criticized because he was sending a letter and we never get to see it, but they're like, you're being way too aggressive in your personal statement. 1901 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,660 Adam: You need to tone down your aggressiveness. 1902 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,780 Adam: Stop being an uppity poor person that has any complaints. 1903 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,020 Adam: You need to tone it down. 1904 00:55:42,099 --> 00:55:43,300 Adam: And he refuses to. 1905 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,200 Adam: but they just paternally do it for him anyway and send it. 1906 00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:51,140 Adam: And he gets in and he's supposed to thank them and lick more boots. 1907 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:51,700 Adam: And Pia doesn't 1908 00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:53,860 Khilli: go for what reason? 1909 00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:54,960 Khilli: Her parents 1910 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,920 Adam: are divorced. 1911 00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:57,100 Khilli: That's why? 1912 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:03,240 Khilli: That should be the best reason to move the fuck out of there. 1913 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,840 Khilli: She can't 1914 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,480 Adam: afford it anymore. 1915 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,820 Adam: She's super poor because the guy made the right thing 1916 00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:10,220 Adam: and abandoned his family for the mistress he was with. 1917 00:56:11,180 --> 00:56:12,460 Adam: The morally right thing to do. 1918 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:12,839 Adam: I think they're going 1919 00:56:12,839 --> 00:56:15,500 Khilli: to get a huge, huge sum of money. 1920 00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:18,559 Khilli: Well, she's stuck in India now crying and he gets to 1921 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:19,400 Adam: go to the UK. 1922 00:56:20,059 --> 00:56:20,420 Adam: He 1923 00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:21,720 Khilli: has to pay for her education. 1924 00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:23,619 Khilli: Doesn't matter if he's divorcing or whatnot. 1925 00:56:23,799 --> 00:56:25,740 Khilli: He has to pay for his daughter's education. 1926 00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:26,319 Khilli: But maybe she cannot 1927 00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:29,099 Winnie: leave her mom alone now that she's divorcing. 1928 00:56:29,099 --> 00:56:29,980 Winnie: But the mom has her 1929 00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:30,359 Khilli: mom. 1930 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:32,140 Khilli: and a friend circle. 1931 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,099 Khilli: She could easily go. 1932 00:56:34,740 --> 00:56:40,160 Khilli: Like, none of the people, like, when the guy told that he cannot go abroad to study, 1933 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,160 Khilli: the reason was, like, never enough, good enough. 1934 00:56:44,859 --> 00:56:53,119 Khilli: And the girl, when she doesn't go abroad, she doesn't have a good enough reason to not go. 1935 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,400 Khilli: So I think the writers, like, 1936 00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:06,140 Khilli: part of the society they come from, they never have, like, they couldn't even cook up a proper reason, like why a person cannot leave the country. 1937 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,980 Khilli: I think they don't know that what the reasons actually could be. 1938 00:57:11,099 --> 00:57:12,040 Khilli: It's not finances. 1939 00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:15,300 Adam: It's not visa. It's kind of just weird choice. 1940 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:27,180 Khilli: Yeah. 1941 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:26,060 Khilli: Yeah, they never cook. I've seen many people who couldn't go abroad for reasons, even if they had a chance. 1942 00:57:26,140 --> 00:57:28,000 Khilli: Yeah, I talk to them every day at my job. 1943 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,040 Khilli: For proper 1944 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,680 Khilli: reasons, they couldn't leave. 1945 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,339 Khilli: They don't have any proper reasons. 1946 00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,839 Khilli: And they couldn't even write a proper reason for 1947 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:36,800 Khilli: them 1948 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,980 Khilli: to not leave the country. 1949 00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:38,700 Adam: Here's the thing. 1950 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,060 Adam: So, because, yeah, I work with a lot of Indian students that are trying to, like, study in America. 1951 00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:48,700 Adam: And every one of their little sentences about why they cannot go has more... 1952 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,220 Adam: drama and story than this entire movie 1953 00:57:52,220 --> 00:57:56,880 Adam: of 1954 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,700 Adam: like why they can't afford it or some issue going on 1955 00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:05,180 Adam: with their family is vastly more interesting and complicated than whatever this movie says 1956 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,579 Adam: and has two hours to say. 1957 00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:08,359 Winnie: actually 1958 00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:08,619 Winnie: Kylie 1959 00:58:08,849 --> 00:58:09,180 Winnie: not that you 1960 00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:09,520 Winnie: point out 1961 00:58:09,579 --> 00:58:10,020 Winnie: it's a very 1962 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,940 Winnie: regressive ending 1963 00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:11,819 Winnie: like the movie 1964 00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:12,500 Winnie: spends so much 1965 00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:13,220 Winnie: time trying to 1966 00:58:13,369 --> 00:58:13,779 Winnie: build up her 1967 00:58:14,099 --> 00:58:14,260 Winnie: character 1968 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:14,760 Winnie: show her 1969 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:15,319 Winnie: capabilities 1970 00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:16,140 Winnie: to do law 1971 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,180 Winnie: prove that 1972 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,000 Winnie: women can do 1973 00:58:18,140 --> 00:58:18,579 Winnie: that just as 1974 00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:19,119 Winnie: much as men 1975 00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:19,599 Winnie: and then 1976 00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:20,380 Winnie: in the end 1977 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:20,700 Winnie: she just 1978 00:58:20,980 --> 00:58:21,359 Winnie: doesn't pursue 1979 00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:21,760 Winnie: it 1980 00:58:22,029 --> 00:58:22,599 Nicky: she stays 1981 00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:23,279 Nicky: in India 1982 00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:24,079 Winnie: it would have 1983 00:58:24,089 --> 00:58:24,619 Winnie: been such a 1984 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,279 Winnie: sad ending 1985 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:26,119 Winnie: if he stayed 1986 00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:26,539 Winnie: and he didn't 1987 00:58:26,539 --> 00:58:27,000 Winnie: get to pursue 1988 00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:27,539 Winnie: his vision 1989 00:58:27,819 --> 00:58:27,940 Winnie: board 1990 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,099 Winnie: but like 1991 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,580 Winnie: but it didn't happen for her 1992 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,860 Winnie: there's no reasoning behind 1993 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:32,220 Nicky: it 1994 00:58:32,540 --> 00:58:32,700 Nicky: nothing 1995 00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:34,320 Nicky: the thing that pissed me off the most 1996 00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:35,760 Nicky: was the very finale 1997 00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:37,400 Nicky: at bonfire night 1998 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,720 Nicky: whatever the fuck that is 1999 00:58:38,860 --> 00:58:39,480 Nicky: it's like 2000 00:58:39,810 --> 00:58:40,220 Nicky: he just 2001 00:58:41,180 --> 00:58:41,720 Nicky: gives that like 2002 00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:42,700 Nicky: I love you speech 2003 00:58:42,830 --> 00:58:44,340 Nicky: and then proposes to her 2004 00:58:44,540 --> 00:58:45,000 Nicky: like what? 2005 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,600 Nicky: yeah that didn't 2006 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,180 Khilli: make any sense 2007 00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:47,760 Nicky: for what? 2008 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:48,320 Khilli: Marriage? 2009 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,460 Nicky: Marriage. Oh my god. I think I 2010 00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:52,300 Adam: zoned out. Yeah, I don't even remember. 2011 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:53,660 Nicky: He did. 2012 00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:54,880 Adam: He had that weird ring, 2013 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:55,420 Adam: right? That weird 2014 00:58:55,420 --> 00:58:56,640 Nicky: ring and then they promised 2015 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,580 Nicky: that they'll come back once they're done with their 2016 00:58:58,780 --> 00:59:00,420 Nicky: studies. So he flies off to the UK 2017 00:59:00,740 --> 00:59:02,560 Nicky: while she stays in India and then they need to 2018 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,900 Nicky: get back and marry. What the 2019 00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:04,120 Winnie: fuck? 2020 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,120 Winnie: They're 17, by the way. They're 17. 2021 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,640 Adam: He's getting a handjob on the plane to university 2022 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:10,820 Adam: by some other chick. It's not happening. 2023 00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:11,000 Adam: We 2024 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,720 Winnie: watched this entire drama movie 2025 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,400 Winnie: and they're going to break up in three months. 2026 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,700 Winnie: at most anyway 2027 00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:17,000 Winnie: the moment he's in UK 2028 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,300 Winnie: the 2029 00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:17,880 Khilli: father was like 2030 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,820 Khilli: having a heart to heart 2031 00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:19,300 Khilli: conversation 2032 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:20,080 Khilli: encouraging him 2033 00:59:20,380 --> 00:59:20,900 Khilli: encouraging him 2034 00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:21,100 Khilli: like 2035 00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:22,060 Khilli: it's like 2036 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,620 Khilli: he's 2037 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,500 Khilli: she's your Juliet 2038 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,960 Khilli: like she's the one 2039 00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:26,200 Khilli: if she's the one 2040 00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:27,160 Khilli: then go for it 2041 00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:28,700 Khilli: like a 17 year old kid 2042 00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:29,940 Khilli: that's bad parenting 2043 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,260 Khilli: that's bad parenting 2044 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,000 Khilli: drop everything 2045 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:32,520 Khilli: and bury 2046 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,060 Adam: this woman 2047 00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:34,920 Adam: who doesn't really like you 2048 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,480 Khilli: I think this is a 2049 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,700 Khilli: like a 2050 00:59:38,099 --> 00:59:40,720 Khilli: Very regressive group of people thinking... 2051 00:59:40,839 --> 00:59:41,300 Khilli: No shit. 2052 00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:43,480 Khilli: Thinking of themselves as progressive 2053 00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:46,700 Khilli: and trying to make progressive argument in the film. 2054 00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:48,099 Khilli: They must be so proud of themselves. 2055 00:59:48,099 --> 00:59:50,619 Khilli: At their core and at their outlook towards society 2056 00:59:50,859 --> 00:59:53,720 Khilli: and everything, they're super regressive people. 2057 00:59:53,740 --> 00:59:54,880 Khilli: They're so proud of themselves. 2058 00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:56,700 Khilli: I had a non-racist 2059 00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:57,180 Adam: thought today. 2060 00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:58,540 Adam: I think everyone should applaud me. 2061 00:59:59,119 --> 00:59:59,200 Khilli: Yeah. 2062 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,460 Winnie: We made a movie about women's empowerment. 2063 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,820 Winnie: Now women are going to pursue law in India. 2064 01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:05,079 Winnie: She's a girl boss. 2065 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:07,680 Adam: Yeah. 2066 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,240 Adam: even though the schools 2067 01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:08,140 Adam: are really dirty here 2068 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,640 Adam: and bad 2069 01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:10,020 Adam: even a woman can do it though 2070 01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:12,180 Winnie: oh gosh 2071 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:12,960 Winnie: I think we checked 2072 01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:13,600 Winnie: how much time 2073 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:14,420 Winnie: there was left in the movie 2074 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,700 Winnie: about like five or six times 2075 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,560 Winnie: while watching it 2076 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,240 Winnie: yeah 2077 01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:17,660 Winnie: I thought 2078 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,480 Winnie: you almost walked out 2079 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,800 Winnie: like five six times 2080 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,980 Winnie: I almost walked out 2081 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:21,860 Winnie: I did not though 2082 01:00:21,980 --> 01:00:22,860 Adam: what was your niece's 2083 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:23,480 Adam: final thoughts 2084 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,180 Adam: on the movie 2085 01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:30,800 Khilli: that's that's the only thing she said and she's like uh it was fun watching with us but nothing 2086 01:00:31,099 --> 01:00:32,680 Khilli: else was fun about the film what 2087 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,780 Winnie: was really fun though was watching the three of you try so hard 2088 01:00:35,780 --> 01:00:36,400 Winnie: to not swear 2089 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,380 Winnie: because 2090 01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:38,380 Winnie: there was a nine-year 2091 01:00:38,380 --> 01:00:38,800 Khilli: -old in 2092 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,200 Winnie: the room 2093 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,060 me 2094 01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:40,780 Khilli: no oh 2095 01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:42,040 Winnie: you mean killie was the worst 2096 01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:45,200 Winnie: like yeah killie is the uncle here we were not swearing killie was 2097 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,740 Adam: swearing up a storm and i 2098 01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:49,800 Winnie: just 2099 01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:51,920 Khilli: shit. No, you weren't. You were saying more. 2100 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,240 Khilli: You said fuck at 2101 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,520 Winnie: one point. Oh, yeah. Fuck. 2102 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,540 Khilli: I'm sorry about that. But 2103 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,860 Khilli: is shit swearing? I don't know. That's 2104 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,820 Khilli: why I did. I was like, hey, Kelly, I don't know 2105 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:00,000 Khilli: if 2106 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,840 Adam: this is wrong. I don't know what they're used 2107 01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:03,300 Adam: to hearing, but like you're swearing. 2108 01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:04,680 Adam: I noticed it. Adam, 2109 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,800 Winnie: you nearly called his 2110 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,840 Winnie: nephew a nine-year-old a dick but i didn't but i 2111 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,280 Adam: didn't i heard the i heard the no but i didn't 2112 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,860 Winnie: i held 2113 01:01:15,860 --> 01:01:19,880 Adam: my tongue i did that for that entire night i'm actually pretty good about holding my tongue 2114 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,580 Adam: around kids i'm like uncle kelly over here yeah 2115 01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:25,200 Winnie: kelly won't lost like you would swear at the most 2116 01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:26,740 Winnie: That's where your uncle 2117 01:01:26,740 --> 01:01:26,980 Winnie: Was full 2118 01:01:26,980 --> 01:01:27,400 Adam: of money 2119 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:27,740 Adam: You just 2120 01:01:27,740 --> 01:01:28,680 Winnie: traumatized them 2121 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:28,839 Winnie: Like 2122 01:01:29,309 --> 01:01:29,940 Winnie: Uncle Killie 2123 01:01:30,099 --> 01:01:31,539 Winnie: What happened to Uncle Killie? 2124 01:01:31,539 --> 01:01:31,859 Winnie: Who is 2125 01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:32,160 Khilli: he? 2126 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:33,299 Khilli: Who does he become at night? 2127 01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:34,760 Khilli: No 2128 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:35,359 Khilli: No 2129 01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:36,539 Khilli: This is English version 2130 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:37,000 Khilli: Yeah 2131 01:01:37,099 --> 01:01:37,859 Khilli: The English version 2132 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,619 Khilli: Doesn't have 2133 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:39,680 Khilli: Doesn't come with like 2134 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:40,079 Khilli: PG 2135 01:01:40,339 --> 01:01:41,119 Khilli: PG-30 2136 01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:55,380 Khilli: Um 2137 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:43,960 Khilli: You usually speak 2138 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,960 Nicky: to them in Bengali, right? 2139 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,160 Nicky: Yeah. 2140 01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:46,840 Nicky: So they just saw you 2141 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,140 Nicky: speak 2142 01:01:48,140 --> 01:01:50,040 Nicky: and criticize in English. 2143 01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:52,360 Nicky: In Bengali I have two different 2144 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,560 Khilli: ways of talking. 2145 01:01:54,740 --> 01:01:57,480 Khilli: Like when I'm with friends, I'm swearing left and right. 2146 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,040 Khilli: And when I'm with family and kids. 2147 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,280 Khilli: I'm totally into like 2148 01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:04,520 Khilli: Not swearing 2149 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,100 Khilli: And then 2150 01:02:05,260 --> 01:02:06,500 Khilli: Totally into not swearing 2151 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,700 Khilli: Like it's 2152 01:02:07,940 --> 01:02:08,120 Khilli: No 2153 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,480 Khilli: Initially it took a lot of effort from me 2154 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,240 Khilli: To not swear in front of them 2155 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,300 Khilli: But then 2156 01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:13,660 Khilli: Like 2157 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,240 Khilli: And then I got used to it 2158 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,500 Khilli: Now I barely like 2159 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,920 Khilli: Anything slips out 2160 01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:18,680 Khilli: But in English 2161 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:19,800 Khilli: I didn't have the practice 2162 01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:31,480 Winnie: So 2163 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:21,900 Adam: Yeah then the nephew 2164 01:02:22,340 --> 01:02:23,340 Adam: Beat us all in Tekken 2165 01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:24,420 Winnie: And 2166 01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:24,700 Adam: we all 2167 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,720 Adam: Except for Winnie 2168 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,380 Winnie: What? 2169 01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:28,740 Adam: He didn't beat you 2170 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,900 Winnie: No no he won 2171 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:30,800 Adam: Oh yeah yeah yeah 2172 01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:31,100 Adam: He won 2173 01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:31,300 Winnie: yeah 2174 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,000 Winnie: How like 2175 01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:32,580 Winnie: Yeah 2176 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,180 Winnie: How much of that was like 2177 01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:35,300 Winnie: Genuine on your guys 2178 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:35,920 Winnie: I did lose 2179 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,340 Adam: legitimately 2180 01:02:36,820 --> 01:02:37,080 Adam: You did 2181 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,260 Winnie: lose legitimately 2182 01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:37,940 Winnie: That's why I almost 2183 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:38,120 Winnie: Called 2184 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,520 Adam: him a dick 2185 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:42,720 Adam: I 2186 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,120 Adam: was 2187 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,660 Adam: that was genuine 2188 01:02:45,380 --> 01:02:46,260 Nicky: no I was holding back 2189 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,800 Nicky: I was holding back 2190 01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:49,440 Nicky: I didn't want to beat this kid 2191 01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:49,900 Nicky: oh no I 2192 01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:51,140 Adam: really lost to a bad 2193 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,380 Adam: I was pissed 2194 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:52,780 Adam: I was going 2195 01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:53,560 Winnie: super easy 2196 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,140 Winnie: like one side of me was like 2197 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,060 Winnie: should I just win 2198 01:02:56,300 --> 01:02:57,100 Winnie: so that maybe he'll think 2199 01:02:57,220 --> 01:02:58,660 Winnie: like girls can play video games 2200 01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,580 Winnie: it'll be a life lesson 2201 01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:02,300 Winnie: And then the other part of me was like, no, he's a kid. 2202 01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:03,220 Winnie: You should never go easy 2203 01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:03,700 Nicky: on kids. 2204 01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:05,080 Winnie: And all of you guys let him win. 2205 01:03:05,110 --> 01:03:07,680 Winnie: So I was like, I can't be the dick now and be the only one who wins. 2206 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,100 Winnie: I did 2207 01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:08,800 Nicky: not let him win. 2208 01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:11,300 Nicky: I wanted you to do the right thing in Avengers. 2209 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,200 Adam: Yeah, how dare you? 2210 01:03:13,610 --> 01:03:14,700 Adam: I was really trying hard. 2211 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,980 Adam: And the kid destroyed me. 2212 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:17,880 Adam: Oh, man. 2213 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,020 Adam: I was 2214 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:21,000 Khilli: beating him in football all the time. 2215 01:03:21,779 --> 01:03:24,220 Khilli: And he legitimately beat me like two, three games. 2216 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:24,680 Khilli: Yeah, he 2217 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,380 Winnie: beat you in FIFA. 2218 01:03:25,819 --> 01:03:26,260 Winnie: 10-5. 2219 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,819 Khilli: No, that was I. 2220 01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:28,940 Khilli: Mine was 10. 2221 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:31,160 Winnie: Not according to him. 2222 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:32,099 Khilli: No. 2223 01:03:33,279 --> 01:03:34,980 Adam: What was the controversy of this movie? 2224 01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:36,359 Oh, yes. 2225 01:03:37,819 --> 01:03:38,480 Keep on 2226 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,039 Adam: going back. 2227 01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:40,539 Adam: I just want to talk about this text. 2228 01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:47,839 Winnie: So the movie was heavily criticized, of course, but one notable criticism came from a Pakistani journalist, Taimur Iqbal. 2229 01:03:48,579 --> 01:03:52,700 Winnie: And he criticized the movie and Abraham's nose. 2230 01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:55,180 Winnie: So I don't know if you guys noticed his nose. 2231 01:03:55,369 --> 01:03:57,440 Winnie: It was a little bit on the bigger side, right? 2232 01:03:57,450 --> 01:03:58,319 Winnie: He has like the bridge. 2233 01:03:58,930 --> 01:03:59,079 Khilli: So 2234 01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:06,099 Winnie: I think that's where he crossed the line because for the most part, I think Abraham has been handling the negative criticism well, but this is where he shot back. 2235 01:04:07,180 --> 01:04:07,800 Winnie: Wait, what did he 2236 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,320 Adam: say about the nose? 2237 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,520 Adam: He was saying he has a big nose? 2238 01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:10,280 Winnie: Something like that. 2239 01:04:10,290 --> 01:04:13,040 Winnie: I think he accused him of getting a nose job or suggested he get a nose job. 2240 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:13,880 Winnie: Something like that. 2241 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,000 Winnie: That was the thing that 2242 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,640 Nicky: set him off? 2243 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:16,060 Winnie: Right. 2244 01:04:16,130 --> 01:04:19,480 Winnie: So it was negative reviews about his acting, the movie, and the nose. 2245 01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:22,500 Winnie: And I think that's where it also became viral on social media. 2246 01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:24,600 Winnie: Because some of his fans were like, yeah, that's crossing a line. 2247 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,580 Winnie: you shouldn't like i 2248 01:04:25,580 --> 01:04:26,420 Adam: agree take 2249 01:04:26,420 --> 01:04:28,600 Winnie: a dig on someone's appearance but a 2250 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:28,980 Adam: 17 2251 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:29,900 Khilli: year old kid no 2252 01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:30,700 Winnie: abraham took 2253 01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:36,460 Winnie: a lot of offense to it and slid into this journalist dms on instagram and screenshot 2254 01:04:36,460 --> 01:04:37,000 Nicky: and 2255 01:04:37,110 --> 01:04:37,240 Nicky: yeah 2256 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,560 tamur 2257 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:43,360 Winnie: almost like tamur you got my brother's name guess what you don't got his face you ugly 2258 01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:47,880 Winnie: piece of trash since you can't keep your words to yourself don't bother they're irrelevant just like 2259 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,200 Winnie: Jesus Christ. 2260 01:04:58,780 --> 01:04:58,940 Winnie: That's 2261 01:04:58,940 --> 01:04:59,960 Nicky: really a good one. 2262 01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:00,060 Khilli: That 2263 01:05:00,060 --> 01:05:01,260 Adam: sounds 70 years. 2264 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:01,760 Adam: How old 2265 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,160 Khilli: is this guy actually in Rio? 2266 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,680 Khilli: Abraham? 2267 01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:05,400 Winnie: I think early 20s. 2268 01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:13,180 Adam: This is a real dumb move on his part to have that in writing and some guy that already doesn't like use DMs. 2269 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,700 Adam: Like that is a massive L. 2270 01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:16,280 Winnie: I also like the journalist response. 2271 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800 Winnie: He goes, a lot of ha ha ha laughing. 2272 01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:19,760 Winnie: That's my man. 2273 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,760 Winnie: See, this is the guy I want to see in the movie. 2274 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,340 Winnie: Not that fake Cornetto mushy cringy human. 2275 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,620 Winnie: But hey, yes, that nose job comment was in bad taste. 2276 01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:29,040 Winnie: Rest, I totally own up. 2277 01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:30,320 Winnie: Massive fan of your dad. 2278 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,220 Winnie: Don't let him down. 2279 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,180 Winnie: Holy crap. 2280 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,780 Winnie: Oh, that is so brutal. 2281 01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:35,720 Adam: Wowie, wowie, wowie. 2282 01:05:35,740 --> 01:05:36,160 Adam: That is so brutal. 2283 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,420 Adam: That's some disco dancer energy right there. 2284 01:05:38,620 --> 01:05:38,980 Adam: Yes. 2285 01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:40,180 Adam: I wanted that. 2286 01:05:40,460 --> 01:05:41,580 Adam: Now that's more interesting 2287 01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:42,440 Winnie: than the whole movie. 2288 01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:43,380 Winnie: That is 2289 01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:43,940 Adam: so true. 2290 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,640 Adam: Again, that guy wrote a way more interesting text, and that text had better writing than 2291 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:49,440 Adam: any of this. 2292 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:50,840 Nicky: Wow. 2293 01:05:51,940 --> 01:05:52,340 Nicky: Yes. 2294 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,760 Nicky: savage 2295 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:53,600 Nicky: apparently it 2296 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:53,980 Winnie: went on 2297 01:05:54,030 --> 01:05:54,520 Winnie: for a while 2298 01:05:54,790 --> 01:05:55,820 Winnie: until it got a bit more heated 2299 01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:56,400 Winnie: and then Abraham 2300 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,360 Winnie: just blocked the journalist 2301 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,440 Winnie: on Instagram 2302 01:05:58,780 --> 01:05:59,640 Nicky: but that replay was 2303 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:00,880 Khilli: it's one of the dopest things 2304 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:01,420 Khilli: that was a good 2305 01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:01,700 Khilli: yeah 2306 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,160 Khilli: he owned up to his fault 2307 01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:03,580 Khilli: like yeah 2308 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,320 Khilli: the nose thing 2309 01:06:04,370 --> 01:06:05,220 Khilli: I shouldn't have done 2310 01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:05,860 Khilli: but like 2311 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:06,800 Khilli: this energy 2312 01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:07,420 Khilli: yeah 2313 01:06:07,870 --> 01:06:08,840 Khilli: bring that to the film 2314 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,220 Khilli: that was like 2315 01:06:09,820 --> 01:06:11,020 Winnie: you're letting your dad down 2316 01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:12,060 Winnie: in a very indirect 2317 01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:12,420 Khilli: way 2318 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:22,080 Khilli: brutal 2319 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,360 Adam: That was like Eminem at the end of 8 Mile just owning the other dude. 2320 01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:17,800 To 2321 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,500 Khilli: be honest, Saif Ali Khan used to be ridiculed a lot in his earlier days. 2322 01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:24,220 Khilli: Also, he had a very thin voice. 2323 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,380 Khilli: Not a very masculine, baritone voice. 2324 01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:33,340 Khilli: He had a very thin voice which was associated with being feminine. 2325 01:06:34,460 --> 01:06:37,200 Khilli: And then he was very fair, ultra fair. 2326 01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:41,000 Khilli: He has a bit of effeminate... 2327 01:06:41,020 --> 01:06:42,840 Khilli: traits in that 2328 01:06:43,090 --> 01:06:44,460 Khilli: those days Bollywood standard 2329 01:06:44,930 --> 01:06:46,740 Khilli: so he was always 2330 01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:48,880 Khilli: looked as not a strong hero 2331 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:50,320 Khilli: right so 2332 01:06:50,930 --> 01:06:52,940 Khilli: I think he the first time 2333 01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:55,240 Khilli: when the perception changed 2334 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,000 Khilli: was he did a 2335 01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:58,560 Khilli: negative role like a villain 2336 01:06:59,260 --> 01:07:00,440 Khilli: portrait of villain and he 2337 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:01,860 Khilli: nailed the role 2338 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,960 Khilli: terrific acting 2339 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,820 Khilli: and looked like totally masculine 2340 01:07:06,890 --> 01:07:08,600 Khilli: I think he did some 2341 01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:15,800 Khilli: plastic surgery some certain kind already like he had also had a huge nose like and then i think 2342 01:07:16,270 --> 01:07:23,160 Khilli: he did something on his nose as well so yeah saifan also went through like a bunch of bullying when 2343 01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:28,880 Khilli: he started and i think he also bullied back yeah yeah you're saying there's anecdote right yeah 2344 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,240 Winnie: so 2345 01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:31,440 Winnie: this whole controversy brought up um 2346 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,520 Winnie: another controversy 2347 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,260 Winnie: with Saif Ali Khan 2348 01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:33,740 Winnie: the father 2349 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,840 Winnie: back in 1995 2350 01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:36,800 Winnie: where a journalist 2351 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:37,680 Winnie: criticized his movie 2352 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:38,360 Winnie: with Akshay Kumar 2353 01:07:38,740 --> 01:07:39,260 Winnie: I don't know which one 2354 01:07:39,260 --> 01:07:39,800 Winnie: it was Khilli 2355 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,520 Khilli: Maculari Tuwanari 2356 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:41,980 Winnie: yeah 2357 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,020 Winnie: and so he gets 2358 01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:43,600 Winnie: very offended 2359 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,220 Winnie: and goes to 2360 01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:44,980 Winnie: the journalist's house 2361 01:07:45,260 --> 01:07:46,120 Winnie: and punches him 2362 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,220 Winnie: and allegedly 2363 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,000 Winnie: also pushes 2364 01:07:48,380 --> 01:07:49,200 Winnie: his elderly mother 2365 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:49,700 Winnie: away 2366 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:50,500 Winnie: when the mother 2367 01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:51,380 Winnie: tried to intervene 2368 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:01,480 Khilli: wow 2369 01:07:52,099 --> 01:07:52,500 Khilli: Wow 2370 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:53,980 Khilli: It was a perfect cast 2371 01:07:54,099 --> 01:07:55,059 Khilli: Because what I said 2372 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:55,779 Khilli: The film's name 2373 01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:56,960 Khilli: It literally translates to 2374 01:07:56,980 --> 01:07:57,500 Khilli: I am the player 2375 01:07:57,619 --> 01:07:58,160 Khilli: You are the loser 2376 01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:58,680 Khilli: Kind of 2377 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,119 Khilli: So it was saying that 2378 01:08:00,339 --> 01:08:01,760 Khilli: Akshay Kumar is the player 2379 01:08:02,099 --> 01:08:04,160 Khilli: And Saif Ali Khan's character 2380 01:08:04,339 --> 01:08:05,200 Khilli: Was the kind of a loser 2381 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,500 Khilli: Because he's 2382 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:08,099 Khilli: So he was playing an actor 2383 01:08:08,539 --> 01:08:09,960 Khilli: Who is learning from the cop 2384 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,859 Khilli: Akshay Kumar was the cop 2385 01:08:12,359 --> 01:08:14,599 Khilli: To how to act as a cop on screen 2386 01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:15,980 Khilli: so he was like 2387 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:16,840 Khilli: internalizing 2388 01:08:16,980 --> 01:08:17,540 Khilli: cop behavior 2389 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:17,980 Khilli: yeah 2390 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,700 Khilli: like he was 2391 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:20,440 Khilli: following him 2392 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,220 Khilli: to like you know 2393 01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:22,180 Khilli: for a character study 2394 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:23,700 Khilli: and then he was 2395 01:08:23,730 --> 01:08:24,280 Khilli: on his case 2396 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:25,100 Khilli: it's an action film 2397 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,520 Khilli: like he was on a case 2398 01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:27,080 Khilli: and then he 2399 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:27,800 Khilli: somehow 2400 01:08:28,540 --> 01:08:29,400 Khilli: gets tagged along 2401 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,420 Khilli: as a like 2402 01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:31,800 Khilli: it becomes a buddy film 2403 01:08:32,420 --> 01:08:33,500 Khilli: where he's like 2404 01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:33,920 Khilli: somewhat 2405 01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:34,600 Khilli: is cannot 2406 01:08:34,820 --> 01:08:35,220 Khilli: is not 2407 01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:36,400 Khilli: able to 2408 01:08:36,940 --> 01:08:37,160 Khilli: fight 2409 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,460 Khilli: in real situation 2410 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,480 Khilli: and stuff like that 2411 01:08:39,580 --> 01:08:40,460 Khilli: because he's just an actor 2412 01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:41,540 Khilli: and 2413 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,660 Khilli: he learns stuff 2414 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:44,580 Khilli: from 2415 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:43,799 Khilli: Akshay Kumar. 2416 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,339 Khilli: Yeah, so the journalist... 2417 01:08:45,339 --> 01:08:48,859 Khilli: So he used to get stereotyped 2418 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,819 Khilli: like those kind of roles 2419 01:08:50,839 --> 01:08:53,059 Khilli: where he's not a macho hero. 2420 01:08:53,980 --> 01:08:54,779 Khilli: And then... 2421 01:08:54,859 --> 01:08:55,799 Khilli: I think, yeah, the journalist 2422 01:08:56,079 --> 01:08:56,559 Khilli: talked about how 2423 01:08:57,339 --> 01:08:58,739 Winnie: the teaming up with Akshay Kumar 2424 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,099 Winnie: was more than just in the movie. 2425 01:09:00,460 --> 01:09:01,099 Winnie: I remember that was supposed 2426 01:09:01,139 --> 01:09:03,020 Winnie: to be like your gay message 2427 01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:04,279 Winnie: or you cannot be 2428 01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:05,440 Winnie: the lead hero message. 2429 01:09:05,859 --> 01:09:06,079 Winnie: Yeah. 2430 01:09:06,460 --> 01:09:08,079 Winnie: But, well, then he punched him 2431 01:09:08,079 --> 01:09:08,839 Winnie: and showed him that... 2432 01:09:08,819 --> 01:09:10,099 Winnie: He was macho 2433 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,980 Khilli: These guys all have anger issues 2434 01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:13,119 Khilli: Yeah so like father like son 2435 01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:15,920 Khilli: Recently this guy has been stabbed in his house 2436 01:09:16,219 --> 01:09:16,339 Khilli: Who? 2437 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,520 Khilli: Saif Ali Khan 2438 01:09:17,819 --> 01:09:18,639 Winnie: Oh by who? 2439 01:09:19,020 --> 01:09:20,219 Khilli: By someone 2440 01:09:20,599 --> 01:09:21,559 Khilli: Some burglar 2441 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,059 Khilli: Something 2442 01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:25,500 Khilli: It's a very shady thing that's happening in Bollywood right now 2443 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,020 Khilli: Like people are getting attacked 2444 01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:32,900 Khilli: Like people are associating with some new underground dawn that's rising up 2445 01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,460 Khilli: in what yeah so this is a good movie 2446 01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:35,699 Adam: too 2447 01:09:35,699 --> 01:09:39,359 Khilli: so he so it's hush hush like no one knows like who 2448 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,739 Khilli: who did that 2449 01:09:40,739 --> 01:09:42,140 Khilli: like 2450 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:47,839 Khilli: he gets goss shoved with like a knife in his so what there's a bunch of bollywood 2451 01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:53,000 Khilli: murders going on not murdered like like threats and attacks 2452 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,279 Khilli: by 2453 01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:55,280 Khilli: a new underground 2454 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,340 Adam: mafia yeah 2455 01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:56,500 Khilli: yeah 2456 01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,400 Khilli: not only bollywood also politicians one of the politicians was killed in the broad daylight in 2457 01:10:00,420 --> 01:10:01,739 Khilli: the street oh so this is kind 2458 01:10:01,739 --> 01:10:05,239 Winnie: of like what's his name uh luigi on a grand scale there's a 2459 01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:06,600 Winnie: no it's nothing to do with 2460 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:06,960 Khilli: luigi 2461 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,580 no 2462 01:10:07,580 --> 01:10:10,580 Winnie: no i'm not saying like the theme wow luigi's 2463 01:10:10,580 --> 01:10:10,900 Khilli: killing all 2464 01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:11,640 Khilli: these bollywood stars 2465 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,719 Winnie: i'm saying like that kind of movement of like going against the 2466 01:10:15,940 --> 01:10:17,360 Winnie: upper class no no no 2467 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,199 Adam: no it's just a mafia mafia takeover 2468 01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:21,060 back 2469 01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:22,320 Khilli: by that's cold that's 2470 01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:27,100 Khilli: i thought the revolution was starting in india no no no mafias are backed by the politicians 2471 01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:27,740 Winnie: Okay 2472 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,220 Khilli: Yeah 2473 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:28,600 Khilli: Most 2474 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,520 Khilli: The ruling party 2475 01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:31,480 Khilli: Kind of trying to take over Bollywood 2476 01:10:31,580 --> 01:10:32,760 Khilli: Via mafia again 2477 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:33,240 Khilli: So 2478 01:10:34,220 --> 01:10:34,620 Khilli: It's 2479 01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:34,780 Khilli: like 2480 01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:35,720 Khilli: It used to be like that 2481 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,920 Khilli: Like when Daoud Ibrahim 2482 01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:37,820 Khilli: Was running 2483 01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:39,380 Khilli: A lot of scene in Bollywood 2484 01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:39,640 Khilli: Like 2485 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:40,760 Khilli: Yeah 2486 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:41,780 Khilli: He was the mafia 2487 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:42,540 Khilli: Back then 2488 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,140 Khilli: Now it's like 2489 01:10:43,180 --> 01:10:44,300 Khilli: You know the name of 2490 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,340 Khilli: I think we 2491 01:10:45,580 --> 01:10:46,340 Khilli: We were talking about 2492 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:46,960 Khilli: This guy 2493 01:10:57,020 --> 01:10:57,080 Nicky: Something 2494 01:10:48,180 --> 01:10:48,320 Khilli: some 2495 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:49,480 Khilli: okay anyway 2496 01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:50,480 Khilli: we'll figure it out later 2497 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,100 Khilli: after the podcast 2498 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:55,760 Nicky: I feel old 2499 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,000 Nicky: watching that movie 2500 01:10:58,940 --> 01:10:59,380 Nicky: it's like 2501 01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:00,260 Nicky: if this is what kids 2502 01:11:00,290 --> 01:11:01,020 Nicky: are up to these days 2503 01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:02,240 Nicky: I don't want to be a part of it 2504 01:11:02,620 --> 01:11:03,240 Khilli: no I feel young 2505 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:04,160 Khilli: I feel like they are 2506 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,300 Khilli: they were older than me 2507 01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:06,300 They 2508 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:07,420 Winnie: looked older than this. 2509 01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:09,940 Adam: From their point of view towards the world. 2510 01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:13,560 Adam: And he was making more money than any of us doing nothing in ice water. 2511 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:14,360 Adam: Oh my god, yes. 2512 01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:16,820 Adam: I get a car every year. 2513 01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:22,180 Khilli: I never earned 25,000 rupees a week in India. 2514 01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:21,920 Khilli: Yeah. 2515 01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:25,860 Nicky: Well, the only takeaway I got from the whole thing is that like, 2516 01:11:25,940 --> 01:11:28,579 Nicky: I knew this girl from Raipur. 2517 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,040 Nicky: Where's Raipur? 2518 01:11:30,179 --> 01:11:31,559 Khilli: I don't know what, Raipur? 2519 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:32,139 Khilli: Raipur? 2520 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,280 Khilli: R-A-I-P-U-R? 2521 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:34,940 Khilli: It's a place. 2522 01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:37,320 Khilli: It's a place you went there? 2523 01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:38,380 Nicky: Not a place. 2524 01:11:38,619 --> 01:11:39,500 Nicky: She's just from there. 2525 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,520 Nicky: She's like this Indian girl that I know. 2526 01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:43,200 Khilli: Oh 2527 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:44,360 Khilli: So that's the 2528 01:11:44,660 --> 01:11:45,500 Khilli: Okay okay okay 2529 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,800 Khilli: Raipur is the place 2530 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:47,320 Nicky: Yeah 2531 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,840 Nicky: She's like the most 2532 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:50,800 Nicky: Richest Indian 2533 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:51,820 Nicky: I've ever met 2534 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,940 Nicky: She's like super entitled 2535 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,560 Nicky: When she goes to classes 2536 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:55,420 Nicky: She would like 2537 01:11:56,190 --> 01:11:56,580 Nicky: You know 2538 01:11:57,140 --> 01:11:58,120 Nicky: Call up her parents 2539 01:11:58,210 --> 01:11:59,240 Nicky: To pay for things 2540 01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:00,460 Nicky: And 2541 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:01,980 Nicky: I remember her 2542 01:12:02,050 --> 01:12:03,240 Nicky: Going back to her hometown 2543 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,120 Nicky: For summer 2544 01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:04,940 Nicky: Or something 2545 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:05,700 Nicky: And then she 2546 01:12:06,260 --> 01:12:06,940 Nicky: had like this 2547 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,240 Nicky: extravagant 2548 01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:09,260 Nicky: birthday party 2549 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:09,960 Nicky: in like a 2550 01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:11,060 Nicky: this like mansion 2551 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:11,520 Nicky: setting 2552 01:12:12,140 --> 01:12:12,740 Nicky: where like 2553 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,480 Nicky: people were just 2554 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,220 Nicky: waiting for her 2555 01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:14,920 Nicky: and her friends 2556 01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:15,960 Nicky: were clapping 2557 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:16,580 Nicky: and there was like 2558 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:17,820 Nicky: this big cake 2559 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,120 Nicky: that's the thing 2560 01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:19,760 Nicky: that I saw 2561 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:20,920 Nicky: from Pia's 2562 01:12:21,380 --> 01:12:21,740 Nicky: birthday 2563 01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:22,440 Nicky: in the movie 2564 01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:23,360 Nicky: wow so that 2565 01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:24,280 Nicky: these scenes actually 2566 01:12:24,670 --> 01:12:24,760 Nicky: happen 2567 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,580 Nicky: that's my point 2568 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:25,960 Nicky: it's not 2569 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,580 Adam: fantastical 2570 01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:27,340 Adam: that's how these people 2571 01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:27,980 Adam: really live 2572 01:12:28,010 --> 01:12:28,440 Adam: and that's why 2573 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:29,060 Adam: it's upsetting 2574 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:30,380 Nicky: it's just crazy 2575 01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:30,980 Nicky: like 2576 01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:31,700 Nicky: I didn't 2577 01:12:31,730 --> 01:12:32,520 Nicky: I thought like 2578 01:12:32,540 --> 01:12:33,180 Nicky: she was just like 2579 01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:33,920 Nicky: a special case 2580 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:34,440 Nicky: but like man 2581 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:35,680 Nicky: if that movie 2582 01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:36,880 Nicky: if that movie's 2583 01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:38,000 Nicky: if there's one takeaway 2584 01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:38,640 Nicky: and get from that 2585 01:12:38,650 --> 01:12:39,660 Nicky: I guess I'll be like 2586 01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:40,460 Nicky: wow people like 2587 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:41,660 Nicky: them doing this 2588 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,040 Nicky: but I feel super 2589 01:12:44,180 --> 01:12:45,140 Nicky: alienated from it all 2590 01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:45,740 Adam: ask her about 2591 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:46,580 Adam: bonfire night 2592 01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:47,200 Adam: yeah I guess 2593 01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:48,040 Adam: maybe she does 2594 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:48,560 Adam: I want to know 2595 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:49,360 Adam: what happens there 2596 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,040 Adam: what sacred rituals 2597 01:12:51,420 --> 01:12:51,840 Adam: are occurring 2598 01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:52,620 what the fuck 2599 01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:54,260 Nicky: I don't 2600 01:12:54,260 --> 01:12:54,780 even know. 2601 01:12:55,219 --> 01:12:55,900 I've never heard of it. 2602 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,520 Adam: I am glad that the reception of this movie is negative. 2603 01:12:58,820 --> 01:13:01,480 Adam: I think it'd all be worse if everyone loved this movie. 2604 01:13:01,559 --> 01:13:02,320 Adam: Yeah, that's true. 2605 01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:03,199 Adam: And we're like, I don't get this. 2606 01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:03,540 Adam: This sucks. 2607 01:13:03,559 --> 01:13:04,559 Adam: But no, everyone hates it. 2608 01:13:04,900 --> 01:13:06,360 Adam: Everyone is rightfully calling it out. 2609 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:10,659 Adam: So it's not like it's a huge hit and changing the culture or anything. 2610 01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:13,219 Adam: It's getting dismissed, and that's great. 2611 01:13:13,739 --> 01:13:14,020 Adam: Yeah. 2612 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,320 Adam: like these actors 2613 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:16,559 Adam: have a lot to prove now 2614 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,199 Adam: like they're not gonna 2615 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,340 Adam: coast on this or anything 2616 01:13:18,599 --> 01:13:19,099 Adam: so that's nice 2617 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,040 Adam: like it shows that 2618 01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:20,659 Adam: you know 2619 01:13:21,179 --> 01:13:21,800 Adam: everyone still has 2620 01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:22,239 Adam: some good taste 2621 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,699 Adam: humanity 2622 01:13:22,699 --> 01:13:23,300 Khilli: prevails 2623 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,500 Khilli: we won 2624 01:13:25,139 --> 01:13:25,280 Khilli: yeah 2625 01:13:26,059 --> 01:13:26,460 it's 2626 01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:27,020 Adam: a story of victory 2627 01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:27,860 it 2628 01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:29,079 Nicky: sits at a 3.1 2629 01:13:29,219 --> 01:13:29,659 Nicky: on IMDB 2630 01:13:29,980 --> 01:13:31,179 Winnie: just in case anyone's wondering 2631 01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:32,159 Winnie: 13% 2632 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:33,460 Winnie: on Rotten Tomatoes 2633 01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:33,980 Winnie: like it's 2634 01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:34,840 Winnie: getting trashed. 2635 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:35,540 Winnie: I hope no one watches 2636 01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:35,940 Adam: this movie 2637 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:36,700 Adam: because of us. 2638 01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:36,840 Adam: I 2639 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,440 Winnie: still can't fully pinpoint 2640 01:13:38,780 --> 01:13:39,540 Winnie: why it's so terrible 2641 01:13:39,620 --> 01:13:40,260 Winnie: because I grew up watching 2642 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,440 Winnie: so many rom-coms 2643 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,620 Winnie: and some critics 2644 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,440 Winnie: were comparing this 2645 01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:44,460 Winnie: to Never Have I Ever 2646 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,920 Winnie: but it's so boring. 2647 01:13:46,220 --> 01:13:47,360 Winnie: It didn't have to be this bad. 2648 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:47,640 Winnie: It's 2649 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,140 Adam: not funny. 2650 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:48,980 Adam: It's not smart. 2651 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,240 Adam: There's no funny characters. 2652 01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:51,520 Adam: Usually rom-coms have 2653 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,140 Adam: side characters that are funny. 2654 01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:54,960 Adam: There's none of that. 2655 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:56,300 Nicky: The character, 2656 01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:57,560 Nicky: we need to talk a little bit more. 2657 01:13:57,740 --> 01:14:00,220 Nicky: It's like Archana Puran Singh. 2658 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,360 Nicky: She plays the Mrs. Brazinga. 2659 01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:03,480 Nicky: like the 2660 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,140 Nicky: the old lady 2661 01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:05,940 Nicky: trying to be 2662 01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:06,820 Nicky: all Gen Z 2663 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:08,400 Nicky: with her terms 2664 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:08,700 Nicky: like 2665 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,280 Nicky: RTTYL 2666 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,040 Nicky: OMG 2667 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,440 Nicky: WTF 2668 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:13,800 the 2669 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:14,120 Khilli: character 2670 01:14:14,180 --> 01:14:14,820 Khilli: is a 2671 01:14:15,580 --> 01:14:16,080 Khilli: reference to 2672 01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:16,840 Khilli: Karan Jehor's 2673 01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:17,580 Khilli: first film 2674 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:18,020 Khilli: oh yeah 2675 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:18,800 Khilli: you mentioned it 2676 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:19,940 Khilli: yeah so she was 2677 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:20,960 Khilli: the same character 2678 01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:21,600 Khilli: was playing 2679 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:22,740 Khilli: the same actor 2680 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:23,440 Khilli: was playing the 2681 01:14:23,940 --> 01:14:29,880 Khilli: same name like namesake character miss braganza who was a some some dean or principal of the 2682 01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:33,860 Khilli: college the students were studying like the actors first the main characters were studying 2683 01:14:34,020 --> 01:14:37,880 Nicky: funny you should say that i was looking it up and it says that she reprised her role 2684 01:14:38,380 --> 01:14:43,100 Nicky: yes so it's like there's a school multiverse wait we literally had this conversation in 2685 01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:43,420 Adam: the beginning 2686 01:14:43,580 --> 01:14:44,440 Adam: are you joking dude 2687 01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:45,540 Adam: we 2688 01:14:45,540 --> 01:14:47,700 Adam: he tilly did say all that 2689 01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:49,140 Adam: And we reacted to it. 2690 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:50,000 Nicky: Oh, did we? 2691 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,620 Nicky: And we talked about 2692 01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:51,500 Adam: the same character 2693 01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:53,180 Adam: and Killy gave the same speech 2694 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,280 Adam: earlier. 2695 01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:55,240 Nicky: Oh, okay. 2696 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:56,340 Nicky: Well, I did, I did, 2697 01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:57,300 Nicky: I remember he said that. 2698 01:14:57,440 --> 01:14:58,480 Nicky: I don't remember he... 2699 01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,060 Nicky: There's a school, 2700 01:14:59,200 --> 01:14:59,920 Adam: he said there's... 2701 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,240 Winnie: But back then 2702 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:01,940 Winnie: they were in college. 2703 01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:02,900 Winnie: I don't know why 2704 01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:03,460 Winnie: they made this 2705 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:03,880 Winnie: in high school 2706 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,440 Winnie: the movie would have 2707 01:15:04,540 --> 01:15:05,300 Winnie: made a lot more sense 2708 01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:05,820 Winnie: it's not like 2709 01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:06,340 Khilli: MCU 2710 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,840 Khilli: multiverse kind of thing 2711 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,160 Khilli: right 2712 01:15:08,380 --> 01:15:09,400 Khilli: so when Bollywood does 2713 01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:10,080 Khilli: it's just 2714 01:15:10,810 --> 01:15:11,320 Khilli: meta reference 2715 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,520 Khilli: that's what I was 2716 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:12,920 Nicky: trying to say 2717 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:13,440 Nicky: I was going back 2718 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,360 Nicky: to what you said 2719 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:14,720 Nicky: you said 2720 01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:15,460 Nicky: it might be a 2721 01:15:15,940 --> 01:15:16,200 Nicky: multiverse 2722 01:15:16,450 --> 01:15:17,280 Nicky: but it does feel 2723 01:15:17,540 --> 01:15:18,800 Nicky: like a school multiverse 2724 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,180 Nicky: but 2725 01:15:19,180 --> 01:15:20,060 Adam: that's what he said 2726 01:15:20,420 --> 01:15:21,540 Adam: but then we said no 2727 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,020 Adam: no no 2728 01:15:22,140 --> 01:15:22,480 Adam: but he said 2729 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:23,800 Adam: it wasn't like the 2730 01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:27,699 Adam: Marvel, but then he kept going and this is exactly how it feels 2731 01:15:27,699 --> 01:15:29,040 Nicky: like a Marvel multiverse. 2732 01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:29,900 Nicky: That's my point. 2733 01:15:30,099 --> 01:15:30,900 Khilli: It's a school universe. 2734 01:15:30,900 --> 01:15:32,599 Khilli: It's not the Marvel multiverse. 2735 01:15:32,710 --> 01:15:37,980 Khilli: So here what happens is like people keep on referencing, like doing the similar character, 2736 01:15:38,679 --> 01:15:44,780 Khilli: same namesakes and everything, but it's not connected like, oh, it's one whole big story. 2737 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,500 Khilli: It's just meta-referencing to other characters. 2738 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,260 Khilli: characters they have played before. 2739 01:15:50,590 --> 01:15:51,260 Khilli: For no bigger 2740 01:15:51,260 --> 01:15:51,940 Adam: reason. 2741 01:15:52,050 --> 01:15:52,200 Adam: You're 2742 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,800 Nicky: saying that, but I read it through and it says that she's reprising her role. 2743 01:15:56,020 --> 01:15:59,480 Nicky: So then I think that it's a multiverse kind of deal. 2744 01:15:59,700 --> 01:15:59,920 Nicky: Maybe we 2745 01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:00,780 Khilli: need to watch Kuch Kuch 2746 01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:04,040 Winnie: Hota next and see if like the surrounding, the teacher 2747 01:16:04,930 --> 01:16:05,700 Winnie: is all the same. 2748 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,140 Khilli: She could be. 2749 01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:08,460 Khilli: She was in a university. 2750 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,480 Khilli: Now she took a different job in a school. 2751 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:12,960 Winnie: I think we talked about this. 2752 01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:13,920 Winnie: Does she have the same name? 2753 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:14,980 Winnie: It can't be totally 2754 01:16:14,980 --> 01:16:15,260 Khilli: new. 2755 01:16:15,740 --> 01:16:16,620 Khilli: It can't be true. 2756 01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:18,180 Khilli: It's the same name, same actor. 2757 01:16:19,060 --> 01:16:19,440 Khilli: What's what? 2758 01:16:19,690 --> 01:16:19,980 Khilli: Oh, yeah. 2759 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,780 Khilli: We should just solve it right now without watching that movie. 2760 01:16:22,780 --> 01:16:23,980 Khilli: Actually, it can't be the same person. 2761 01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:24,660 Khilli: I don't know. 2762 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:25,860 Khilli: She was in university. 2763 01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:27,540 Khilli: Hey, people change his job. 2764 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,620 Khilli: She was in university. 2765 01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:29,500 Khilli: Now she's in the school. 2766 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,160 Khilli: We're trying 2767 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,940 Winnie: so hard to make this movie. 2768 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,060 Winnie: The movie is so disconnected 2769 01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:34,720 Adam: from reality. 2770 01:16:34,740 --> 01:16:37,020 Adam: It just became a lot more interesting now that I know this. 2771 01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:37,220 Adam: Give 2772 01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:37,740 Khilli: us something. 2773 01:16:41,390 --> 01:16:41,480 Adam: Give us something. 2774 01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:39,159 Khilli: Yeah 2775 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:40,620 Adam: Wow she was interesting 2776 01:16:40,710 --> 01:16:41,380 Adam: In another movie 2777 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:41,880 Adam: That's cool 2778 01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:42,719 Adam: What a cool fact 2779 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:43,880 Khilli: This character 2780 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:45,239 Khilli: No 2781 01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:45,840 Winnie: the movie is 2782 01:16:45,940 --> 01:16:47,120 Winnie: Disconnected from reality 2783 01:16:47,380 --> 01:16:47,719 Winnie: Boring 2784 01:16:48,140 --> 01:16:48,719 Winnie: Terrible acting 2785 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,260 Adam: Stay on TikTok kids 2786 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:51,340 Adam: Don't watch this movie 2787 01:16:51,469 --> 01:16:51,580 Adam: I 2788 01:16:51,580 --> 01:16:51,800 Winnie: mean 2789 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,179 Winnie: I want 2790 01:16:52,179 --> 01:16:52,640 Khilli: to talk about 2791 01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:53,360 Khilli: Talk about like 2792 01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:54,760 Khilli: How Karanjur's film 2793 01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:55,360 Khilli: Are like 2794 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:56,820 Khilli: Gradually declining 2795 01:16:57,340 --> 01:16:57,760 Khilli: Day by day 2796 01:16:57,900 --> 01:16:58,780 Khilli: Like he's not giving 2797 01:16:59,150 --> 01:16:59,640 Khilli: Enough hits 2798 01:16:59,850 --> 01:17:00,739 Khilli: To the point that 2799 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:01,140 Khilli: Yeah 2800 01:17:01,179 --> 01:17:01,460 Khilli: I don't know 2801 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:01,780 Khilli: He's 2802 01:17:01,810 --> 01:17:03,340 Khilli: I heard like he sold 2803 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:04,640 Khilli: Almost half of the share 2804 01:17:04,670 --> 01:17:05,440 Khilli: Of Dharma production 2805 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,179 Khilli: To someone else 2806 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:08,380 Nicky: Mm 2807 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:07,820 Khilli: He's tired 2808 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:08,960 Nicky: There was that like 2809 01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:09,600 Nicky: You know 2810 01:17:09,670 --> 01:17:10,900 Nicky: We shared this article 2811 01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:11,580 Nicky: The other day 2812 01:17:11,730 --> 01:17:11,860 Nicky: Right 2813 01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:13,300 Nicky: It was like an Al Jazeera article 2814 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:13,920 Nicky: Where 2815 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:15,400 Nicky: They mentioned that 2816 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,180 Nicky: K. Joe's latest films 2817 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,700 Nicky: Have all been flops 2818 01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:19,120 Nicky: Yeah 2819 01:17:19,460 --> 01:17:20,520 Nicky: They're losing a lot of money 2820 01:17:20,610 --> 01:17:20,760 Nicky: Yeah 2821 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:21,780 Nicky: Because the same 2822 01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:22,200 Winnie: kind of movies 2823 01:17:22,340 --> 01:17:23,000 Winnie: That made him popular 2824 01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:23,560 Winnie: Back in the day 2825 01:17:23,620 --> 01:17:24,640 Winnie: Is not gonna work anymore 2826 01:17:24,860 --> 01:17:25,060 Winnie: That's 2827 01:17:25,060 --> 01:17:25,560 Adam: exactly it 2828 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,600 Khilli: He actually produced 2829 01:17:26,770 --> 01:17:27,900 Khilli: A very nice film 2830 01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:28,420 Khilli: I 2831 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,040 Khilli: Definitely want 2832 01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:30,780 Khilli: Everyone to 2833 01:17:30,860 --> 01:17:31,320 Khilli: Jigra 2834 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:31,820 Khilli: Jigra 2835 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:32,400 Khilli: It's 2836 01:17:32,860 --> 01:17:33,620 Khilli: It starts 2837 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:34,620 Khilli: Ali Abhad 2838 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,900 Khilli: As an action hero 2839 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,780 Khilli: and she's saving her brother from a fictional country in Southeast Asia 2840 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,320 Khilli: where he just gets mixed up with a drug bust 2841 01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:49,040 Khilli: and he's about to get like life sentence 2842 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,520 Khilli: sorry death sentence 2843 01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:53,699 Khilli: and then she saves him 2844 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,980 Khilli: and it's a very nice film. 2845 01:17:56,220 --> 01:17:59,000 Khilli: It's directed by one of my favorite directors from Bollywood, 2846 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,020 Khilli: Vasan Bala, but it's a really good film, 2847 01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:05,140 Khilli: nice set up, nice world building, nice characters, 2848 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,440 Khilli: terrific actions, brilliant cinematography, 2849 01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:16,480 Khilli: amazing set design, but flops in Indian box office. 2850 01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:19,280 Adam: All right, this is a good time to wrap it up. 2851 01:18:19,420 --> 01:18:20,139 Adam: The door opened. 2852 01:18:20,559 --> 01:18:21,119 Adam: We need to... 2853 01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:22,540 Adam: We 2854 01:18:22,540 --> 01:18:24,540 Adam: got some more toys from the temple fair today. 2855 01:18:24,860 --> 01:18:25,300 Adam: Okay, guys. 2856 01:18:25,380 --> 01:18:25,579 Adam: So the 2857 01:18:25,579 --> 01:18:28,760 Khilli: takeaway from this film is like, 2858 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:29,800 Khilli: don't watch this film. 2859 01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:30,820 Khilli: Watch Jigra. 2860 01:18:31,739 --> 01:18:33,300 Adam: Yeah, and we'll watch Jigra at some point. 2861 01:18:33,599 --> 01:18:36,300 Adam: And all the movies in the multi-school universe. 2862 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,020 Adam: The MCU, the multi-college universe. 2863 01:18:46,659 --> 01:18:46,780 Adam: Yeah. 2864 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,560 Nicky: occasional universe 2865 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,260 it 2866 01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:47,880 Adam: was fun watching it i'm glad we got uh you know a real 17 year old's 2867 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,880 Adam: perspective on it that was nice that those 2868 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,140 Nicky: extra elements made it fun keely did uh bring your kids 2869 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:59,920 Nicky: to work yeah yeah swear in front of your show how 2870 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,220 Adam: stressful your job could be you have to watch all 2871 01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:03,000 Adam: these shit movies 2872 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:11,680 Adam: yeah 2873 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:10,160 Adam: uh yeah so yeah don't don't watch this you can skip it uh so uh but we watch this so you don't 2874 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:16,980 Adam: have to uh we'll watch some better films next time uh thanks for listening please uh rate and review 2875 01:19:16,990 --> 01:19:17,320 Adam: i guess 2876 01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:33,580 Adam: you