Wait, are we recording actually right now? Yeah, but just
Look at you guys are talking in a way that it's like very podcast and I'm figuring
Well, we're next to the mic
Warming up personally to shift as soon as the mic start. This is how we always talk to each other
Yeah, very very formal but you don't have to pay attention until Khilli starts singing that's when you know, we're about to start
Welcome to Fear of Stairs
Desi Films Decoded the podcast for four friends from different backgrounds unlock the world of Desi cinema
I'm Winnie the Desi who's never been to India. Hi, I'm Khilli. I'm from India and I like Jadu
My name is Nikki I love magic
That's so true and I'm Adam and I love aliens as well including Jadu and I learned that
The fingers that this movie star has just came from the aliens
He was interacting with and that helped explain what his finger problem was. Oh
Yeah, you get to see her tics finger so clearly in this one and the aliens all have the same fingers
Yes
Well, they can guess those two things. I mean the moment you said Jadu and Doom
So our movie today is the Koi Milgaia, which is also a title for one of the songs it stars Ritik Roshan as this
Autistic man. Am I allowed to say autistic?
I don't think it's autistic man
He was autistic
Developmentally disabled
It's honestly like the R word back then. I mean that's what it was
But it's not autism
Sorry Jadu
That just like if we can't use the word autism that cancels out all like 15 jokes I had
Gotta throw away my train jokes now
That's it. Oh, yeah, he plays this like
developmentally disabled man and like
And it shows like and his relationship with this girl who treats him like dirt
But then you know
Comes to accept him for who he is. Oh, yeah, and there's also an alien. I do want to say
Because I okay
Does anyone know about autism in this group? Because like I is it is does autism cause someone to behave that way or?
Because we just because they don't say autism in the movie. Are we just applying that?
I think the term has kind of been loosely changed. Thanks to the tick-tock generation
Neuro divergent is that but you can't just call like everyone like that
Worse than the R word like it's no longer Asperger's syndrome specifically, right? It's like all kinds of yeah
That's something it's all kinds of like developmental disabilities if they're a bit slower than their age
You just kind of like classified as autism being on the spectrum. All right, just to be on the same side. We'll just say developmentally
No, but I do your jokes your 15
Jokes use the certain term mentally did like they used one term brain or a she kept saying monkey brain
Monkey brain. Okay, that doesn't sound any better
The first scene when the doctor was explaining like why what why what happened? So so we see a flashback, right?
So the doctor is explaining like what's the shows are like a blot in the brain. Yeah, just explain now
I guess for context what what happened that the doctor is looking at that explains the brain damage
Yeah, I mean we'd come to that like let's let's let's let
Begin the okay, but just going forward we'll go to that scene where it all folds out, which is the second scene. Yeah
Autism I thought made you like smart most of the time different levels
I think neurodivergent is the right better for her to use but then that's like so
Now especially in this generation, okay
But basically he was eight years old when he got this brain scan and the doctor revealed that he actually had the brain capacity
Of a two and a half year old right so he's not developing developing based on his age. He's always gonna be he's slow
So I don't know what the correct term for that is. Can we just say slow? He's stupid. Hey, I don't know
He's just very slow. We'll just leave it that but efficiency
That's not any better
We think there is a news piece that where we think explained it was not autism. It was brain deficiency. Okay, there's no way it's autism
Yeah, it's not autism. I don't think so. Yeah
It was because his pregnant mother fell on the stomach. Yes, right. That was the cause of it
Yeah, because of the alien. How did oh, that's right. Yeah. Okay. Sorry
Yeah, it's like it's like it takes a lot of inspiration from ET
I think there was a bit of like closing covers of the third time as well
But it's also more like I think there's like two movies in this one
It's like first like the alien doesn't come in
By the end to it's like an hour and ten minutes hour and ten minutes before we see Jadu
Yeah, and then it also did like a bit of like Star Wars like, you know, there's like an opening crawl
Yeah, opening credits like doing the star wars style. That was kind of weird
That was a little weird. But yeah, anyway, it begins with this like
Scientist guy scientist guy scientist guy like playing sounds funky sounds from the computer and all these sounds are like
Chanting the word ohm. Yeah, which is what does that mean? Oh is like a religious
Like a chant mantra kind of thing. And yeah, there are these conspiracy theories
Like this is like those theories like where they explain like oh
We everything was in Vedas like all the signs were in Vedas like all the signs were already explained in our religious scripture
And now is folding out while the scientists discovering things
So it is like in that area like where he expressed like oh all the frequency of the planet is within that word
Oh, and actually like it's funny when it's a like a kid's film or something
But it's not funny when actually adults speak about it on on the real world
Yeah, I didn't know this was a real thing
For context that happens. So that's what he was saying like this that sound has like the chant has like all the frequencies of the full flat planet
It goes like ohm ohm boom boom boom boom
Ohm ohm ohm yeah that's it
How is that? That can be anything that can be boom boom boom boom
Yeah, so boom
He makes these sounds and like apparently like up in the sky some alien some extraterrestrial being
Like responds back and him and his pregnant wife decided to go talk to this like science organization in Canada in Canada
Yeah, we will bring this up later the fucking locations and how absurd all these locations are
We'll bring this up later. But yes for no reason there in Canada
He was working in Canada. That's the point. I know but there's no reason for that
But gone and then like there's a bunch of these like asshole white scientists. They're like just not nice to him
They were like saying stuff like you know when he was explaining like they they use the word ohm
They were like, oh, so they also believe it's your they also believe your religion as well. I don't know
It's like yeah, they were just being like yeah same people
So yeah, anyway, they turned him down right and then like on the drive back home him and his wife noticed that there was like a
UFO spotlight like a bad CGI UFO spotlight. They followed the spotlight and I guess
He inadvertently wasn't looking and like got big he flipped the car and like his wife gets thrown out of the car
And she lands like on her belly. Yeah, and that's when you know
And that's how autism is made
That's how autism is made
Aliens
So the car explodes he dies and yes, she lets out this like I swear to God it's like the funniest scream ever
It's like
Okay
Okay, fun fact. Do you know that the scientist is the director of the film? Oh, was it? Yeah
It is played by Rakesh Roshan the director who is also
Ritik's biological father like outside of the screen in real life. Oh, he's his real dad
Yeah, he's the dad. He's the director. He directed his son. Yeah
This is the second movie right? The first one is Kahuna Pyaara
He launched his son in Kahuna Pyaara which is a romantic thriller
Romantic thriller which is like a Bollywood stereotype film structure like romance and thriller both
And then that's the film he launched his son and which was a really good film really good. Yeah, I like that
But yeah, I mean, this is I think the second film in most world. I like his second movie
He's like I'm gonna make my son. I mean his son did other films mentally disabled
But I think that's why he let the aliens have the same thumb as his son so that his son would feel more included
You're right, it's not my fault
So before this film like this this one I remember like Ritik would hide the six fingers like most of the time
Because I mean, yeah, of course like a character six fingers would be like a really identifiable
The characteristics of someone and we should be talked should be talked about script. So it's not in the script
So you would like pose the hand in a way like even when he's shaking hands with someone so that like it's not that visible
I think this is the first film which was like we used his thumb a lot and let's explain to the audience
What's going on with the six finger thing? Well, if you if you listen to our episode on kabukushi kabigam, right? Yeah, we talked about this
He basically just has a real disorder disability. I don't know. It's not it's not it's not
It's a genetic disgusting mutation
No, he's just waiting on thin ice here
There's a condition where he has an extra thumb, right? And they're conjoined at the bottom and they kind of conjoin again at top
So there's it's like a crab claw. It's like a diamond thumb. Yeah
And then all the aliens in this movie also have the same exact thumb
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There's not one hardcore fan out there
But I really like the fact I would have really liked if only Jadu had that kind of thumb and not the other alien that could have been given a more relatability with
But then it makes him look different again
Like Jadu is an outcast
Anyway, anyway, Nikki go on
Yeah, so the the significant part of backstory is that the wife falls on her belly and that's the cause of his that's the cause of our main characters brain brain deficiencies
Baby brain goes dumb dumb
They're like, sorry, he's gonna be stupid forever now
Yeah, Rohit, our character's name is Rohit
He's like like when he said he's like this eight
It starts off with him at eight years old with the brain of like two and a half years old
And like he he has a bunch of these like he goes to this like preppy school. It's like a preppy school, right?
It's a weird preppy heist like from kindergarten to university
It seems in the same hall same same premise
Yeah, so after like they played some baseball, I guess basketball basketball basketballs a huge thing cricket cricket like the smashing the window pane
Yeah, you get like this quick time skip where you get to see a retic and all this charismatic brain deficiency glory
And you can tell he's stupid because he moves different than other people. Yeah, he moves different and then like we get like this first musical scene where it's like set in the highlands
I don't know is it
Now the location
So we discussed this because immediately I clocked is this is not India, obviously, like they're they're they look like they're in the Alps from the sound of music. Yes, like they look like they're in the Swiss Alps.
And I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. Like, none of it looks like India. And then, and I asked like, Tilly, like, what location is this? Like, I don't get this. And then later it cuts to them being like a really like, okay, their village is a weird made up fairy tale place that looks like, like an Epcot European city in the middle of the Alps, but not the same looking Alps that they're sometimes dancing it.
And we figured out we looked it up. Tilly, what are the different locations? They were like New Zealand. There was, I mean, India, of course. And then there is
Bali. Yes. Yeah. So I am somewhere else and Europe. But somewhere.
What was Switzerland or something like that? So they would cut. Yeah, they would cut between like in the same scene of people walking. It would cut from like Swiss Alps to New Zealand to like Bali and back. And they had to like, keep track of this. It makes zero sense besides money laundering.
Because like the plot doesn't need Swiss Alps and they couldn't even if you're in the Swiss Alps, just film all of it there. But then they keep filming in New Zealand or back in India. If it's like a street, you can clearly see the difference.
But it's mainly for songs. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Except for like the in. No, they were the main major characters. Yeah. Major characters. Each of their house was in different country. Yeah.
So, so the so when the pretty Zinta comes in the picture. So you remember the scene where the parents of pretty Zinta and the parents of that asshole guy were having a conversation on the porch.
Oh, Raj. Raj. Yes. Yeah. I mean, not when Rithik comes in. Yeah. It was before that. Like just when they have come to the city. It was either pretty Zinta's house or Raj's family's house. One of their house. But there, those are the people who are talking on the porch. And the background was Bali. You could see the step.
The rice fields. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I first I felt like, oh, maybe this is India finally. But then I'm like, no, look at the step step rice field. I mean, India has a price for it, but not in not in a similar looking way.
So, and then all that already I saw on Wikipedia that they shot in Bali. I'm like, this definitely is. And they had a whole village that looks like they built in Europe or something just to shoot that.
But I think that was New Zealand. Sometimes I think I don't like I thought. Yeah. Some European town, some weird location sponsored by the school area part. It's in a film city. Right. Yeah. I think it's a studio. Yeah.
But it's just wild, like, because all of these things, which is like a town and a mountain, you could film in India, but they chose instead to, like, take all the crew and spend all this money. It's so expensive to do that.
And then go to like, yeah, some European mountain, but then to also take everyone to go to New Zealand and then Bali, like, and none of it's for the story. It's all locations that could take place in India because they don't they aren't in Europe or New Zealand. They're supposed to be in India.
I mean, in film, people do that a lot, like shooting somewhere for cheaper reasons. They went to all places way more expensive than India.
Make it look beautiful for access or maybe it can be any other thing. But it usually is in one single place. It's not like one scene in New Zealand, one scene in Switzerland, one scene in Bali.
But we know the Russians are very wealthy, right? They come from a lot of money. They've been in the film industry for a long time.
It's the second generation. Do you think it's the second or third generation? So, Keeley, you mentioned when this movie was filmed that at this point, there was a lot of money laundering in Bollywood. They were just using like to turn black money into white money.
Bollywood had a money laundering thing going on for a bit. Yeah, for a long time.
Do you think this film is one of their missions? Maybe. Highly possible. I mean, they have to inflate the profit so that they can actually turn the black money into white money.
I cannot be for sure that this was part of it, but it could be. Yeah.
Yeah. So anyways, they are in the Swiss Alps, I guess, basically.
Yeah. And he's surrounded by these. I was really confused by this first adventure. He was surrounded by a bunch of children. I wondered, where are their parents?
That was what I was wondering too. Where is any adult here?
I just later we found out that those are his best friends.
Okay, please. So he's in class and is this the part where you're saying I was hung up on? Because this is the part I'm very hung up on.
Does Pretty Zinta come into the picture? No, no, no. Okay, no. This is the other part. So he is, when we find out, he's the same age as like the enemy, right?
Yes. Which is like what? Like 23. They're in university. So it's like 21 or 22, right? But he is in like what? Like seventh grade. Seventh grade.
He's not even in seventh grade. He was like his mother was asking the principal to take him to the seventh grade.
Yeah. He was like that. Then he's in the sixth grade. So he's in sixth grade. Yeah. He's like 21 or 22 in sixth grade.
Oh, that was hung up with the math of his develop. How many like how did he start and where was he stuck? And how was the progress?
If he's eight years old, he has a two year old brain and at 21 he should have. He didn't progress.
Because yeah, if he's an eight year old with a two year old brain, that's he's five years back or six years back, right? Yeah. So then if he's 22, he should be like 16 year old.
He should be in high school at least. Then you're thinking his growth is like linear, right? His growth slope is parallel to regular people's growth slope.
Sure. His growth slope is slower than the other people's growth slope. But then how many years did he repeat the same exact class over and over and over again?
And this depends on is he going to develop slowly or is he going to reach a point where his brain just stops developing completely?
Well, that's what I was wondering, too. Like, is he 80 when he becomes an adult, like mentally? No, I think I think he seems slow.
But also there is a limit of like when when your brain development stops. So whatever is earlier like happens to him.
So he's like if like let's say like in 25, 26 his brain development stops. And then by the time he's like 15, so he stays as 15.
He these best friends of his, he's only known for like a year because I'm assuming you just get stuck in his grade and then kids just flow through and he's just stuck in sixth grade.
Yes. And I feel like you should have a better relationship with his teacher because he must have spent like 10 years with this teacher or something.
Well, we're very rude to him. Yeah. Yeah.
Asshole teachers. But anyway, they they they were so Rohit and his kid gang, they all ride scooters.
That's so funny, too. Which is like, is that is that a normal thing in India?
It's the most common. Those those like peddling scooters.
No, it's not a normal thing. I mean, I never used to do that.
Those wouldn't survive a day in the Indian streets.
And then my parents got me one when I was like five years old. And then that was like a spectacle.
And like everyone would like come and see like, what the fuck is this thing?
Like because it's it's rare. And then no one would like be like gutsy enough to ride them on the street.
It's the most 2003 thing. This movie was 2003. It's the most 2003 like artifact of it.
Yeah. And because they're in like scooters. So here's what Adam mentioned already.
Like it's a there's a bad guy. He's like the bully. And he's like name is Raj.
He's like this. They say he's like the district magistrate son.
District magistrate who behaves like a king. Oh, yeah.
They will come to district magistrate.
He rides in like this biker group. And like we have like I swear to God, this is like a funny scene.
Like they're they the biker gang and the scooter gang meet on this bridge.
Like it's a fucking showdown of some sort. It's children though.
Like they're facing off against little children on scooters and also just pass.
There's no reason why you can't just go past each other. They start fighting.
They actually start fighting with the kids at one point. So throwing the kids off.
Yeah. Imagine being like guys on like a motorcycle and you see a kid on the street across from you.
And then you just decide it's time to fight this dude. Yeah. Absurd.
Yeah. But we have like some of the greatest like action scenes like chase scenes.
Like we get to like they introduce us like characters like there's like the the inspector Khan and he's like bumbling assistant.
I don't know. I feel I've seen that actor before.
He's Johnny Deaver. So so he's actually a really nice actor.
He had been like under like he's a very talented comedian.
He's a glasses. Yeah. Yeah. So we've seen him before.
So it's part of Indian storytelling. There would be always like the clown right in the story.
And then he used to always be that character that was clown like who at whom people would laugh like because his stupidity or his like
what's the English term gesture gesture like he suggests he's a gesture court jester like he would be the film gesture character like people would laugh at him before his weirdness.
I mean he had been playing that role in Bollywood films for long.
And like there are certain characters like him. He's one of them.
He's had been he had a really good like spell in Bollywood.
Do you remember the other movie he was in that we saw?
I think we started watching Karan Arjun at one point and we didn't finish and he was there.
No, I don't know. But there's another one.
We didn't do the watch cast about it. Huh? Was he Kabhi Kushi Kabhi Kabhi?
Was he? I don't think so.
We've definitely yeah. But yeah. But he he pops up in a lot of movies. He's like the Rob Schneider for Adam Sandler movies.
You know or vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Johnny Deaver. He's amazing. Yeah. Johnny Deaver.
Rob Schneider is not amazing.
Yeah. So anyway, they so yeah.
The bad guy Raj, he's like the district magistrate son.
And then like I think top dog basically if you're the district magistrate.
And then like we yeah we later find out that he was Rohit's classmate at one point.
At one point they were in class together. There is history there.
Anyway, we're introduced to this like the girl character, the lead actress.
I forgot. I don't know what her. Preeti Zinta. I don't know who she is.
I forgot her name in the movie though. Nisha. Nisha. Nisha.
Yeah. Like she just isn't into town and then like she runs into the to Rohit and his kids.
And like his friends, his friends. I have a hard time saying that.
And like I guess she didn't even stop to question like what is a grown ass man doing with a bunch of children.
Not once did she question that but like she wants to like find the what was she trying to look for?
Like asking for directions and then like Raj's house I guess.
Raj's house. Yeah. And then like they decided to prank her by misleading her and to take giving them a ride to this movie theater.
And then like that's when she starts to realize that like I think they were like they're not good kids.
They're not good kids and like the man that she's talking to like is a man child.
But she doesn't realize that. She just thinks he's an asshole.
But she's like yeah. So I think the experience of Indian women with Indian men is such that like they can.
Yeah the bar is so low.
Actually that was like a normal dude. Is it a brain development issue or is it?
She's like that's the nicest smartest man I've ever met.
Yeah. And it extends to this party that they were at where like Rohit was like Rohit and a bunch of other children were hiding under the table.
And then yeah it was like that funny misunderstanding scene where he accidentally spills food on her.
I had a question like if two kids were like still like taking food for them why are they hiding below the table?
They could be anywhere else in the whole. I don't know. Yeah no logic here.
Yeah. Yeah.
Also I read that they filmed the under the table parts.
Those were all in northern China but then above the table parts were in southern India.
Such a global movie. I'm kidding about that.
Okay. Well right into it.
But yeah like I mean after all that like Rohit's mom tells him that you know you should be more of a gentleman and say sorry something.
So then that's what Rohit was trying to do by like putting bubblegum to Raj's car.
No no he was trying to put a I'm sorry note on Nisha's.
Yeah on Nisha's ride or something.
And then and then like I think like they started like bullying him.
Like there's this you get this bizarre scene where like the biker gangs drove drives their bikes around Rohit.
They always go in circles around him. Every single time they see him they just circle him.
Circle him and then like run over his scooter.
And while that was unfolding Rohit's mom was like watching the chaos unfold.
And then like you cut you cut to this scene where they were like just laughing at how they bullied this man child.
Well they're jealous too right.
Because isn't the girl Nisha like flirting with Raj.
Not yet.
But in this scene then.
They were just being dicks to him because he's a man child.
Yeah but in this scene he's trying to put the I'm sorry note and then Raj puts the gum right to set him up to show Nisha that.
So what happened I remember it was not Raj it was Rohit the chewing gum.
Because he doesn't have the brain capability to think that if there is a chewing gum that her hair would get stuck.
So she he was trying to put the sorry note on the car in a random place.
And then it wouldn't stuck because it's a fucking paper piece of paper.
So he takes out his chewing gum puts on the seat and they about to stick the paper.
Raj comes and they're like what are you doing and then see what he was doing.
He was putting chewing gum on your seat so that you have to cut your whole hair.
But poor Rohit he didn't know.
He's too stupid.
I was almost at verge of crying.
So yeah the biker group was like laughing at their misery right.
And then Nisha suddenly says like yeah he deserves that.
And then you get like a very vengeful Rohit's mom saying like no he should be hanging out with you.
He should be with you as intellectuals or something like that.
But like the scene that this scene took me out because everyone around them stops what they're doing.
And just listens to this powerful speech Rohit's mom was giving.
I'm disrespectful to older elders in the town.
But the scene shows that Nisha doesn't know.
Nisha doesn't know that he is developmentally disabled.
She feels genuinely bad.
But Raj and everyone knew because they were in the same class with him at some point.
So they're just complete assholes.
But then that but because Rohit's mom you know has that tearful speech Nisha feels bad.
She decides to buy Rohit like a bike.
And then they become tries to become friends with him.
She takes him to this like to the nightclub where they force the biker gang to say sorry.
So this is like I am so confused about this.
Well OK so ethically or morally I know he's so he must be like 21 22 like we said right at least.
So he's physically old enough to go into a club but he's in sixth grade and mentally in that is it right to take him to would you take a six year old to a club.
And is that this. No. So then why him.
And is it different. Am I wrong.
It was wrong. Yeah because he was getting all that by by lustful women like who are trying to make him drunk and then maybe take advantage of this little kid.
That's that's that way.
I did bring up the like imagination scenario if this was a girl who was 21 or 22 with the brain of a six year old and the guy brought her to a club he would be like canceled immediately.
That's very that's very that's very good for poor things.
Yeah. And also this is 2003 so I feel like you need to cut some slack.
I think this movie came out today probably still be canceled both ways like I said when it comes to children I think the gender argument is less important because both ways are wrong.
It doesn't matter if it's a boy or a girl or a child. But I think this whole movie the argument is should we treat him as an adult or as a kid because he's physically a grown man.
That gray area makes that film so real. So uncomfortable.
Right. But but Nisha took him really just to apologize and that it was the biker gang that ended up trying to get him drunk.
Right now what does the biker gang have with them at the club.
Let's not forget a basketball.
No that comes later.
They don't have it there too.
This is all right because they always have basketball basketball to bully people like they're constantly playing basketball in different places.
But if they had it it was not shown because the story didn't require in this this scene.
But if if if they had to bully Rohit in some other way.
Yeah. They had to bring out the element of bullying in this scene was just get him drunk.
Yeah. This eight year old junk.
The Raj like I just remembered one thing like it's almost like another thing like I was saying like the father and son being played by the same actor like we got used to it.
The name Raj if he's played by Shah Rukh Khan it's a hero otherwise it's always like an asshole.
Is this throughout like for most of Bollywood films.
Yeah. That's what I was just thinking like whenever I see like a Raj character like when it's not by Shah Rukh Khan if it's by Shah Rukh Khan then it's a hero.
If it's not by Shah Rukh Khan it's almost always like a fucking bully or an asshole.
I wonder if Shah Rukh Khan had to pay a patent or something to have the name Raj.
I looked it up too by the way and that club was filmed in a submarine.
In China or India?
In the ocean.
In the ocean? Oh ok.
It was in a submarine. Deep sea.
I almost believe that.
Yeah. So yeah so Rohit gets uncomfortable at the club and then like you know.
Because he's sick mentally.
He's around like sex and alcohol and he's sick mentally.
And he's about to get bullied.
He doesn't like the taste of absolute.
I don't remember that.
I don't remember the alcohol.
Ok he walks out from the club and then like Nisha follows him and then we have this like cute little scene where they're like dancing in the rain.
And then like you get to see like Rohit's funky dance moves.
Yeah this dance was like very asexual right?
It was very kid like.
Yeah yeah they're jumping around.
No you said that in the beginning and at the end it got super sexual.
No no this was the second dance that they had.
This is an alps.
That was the koi mil gaya dance.
No but they were both in rain.
No but this one was playful. They're like jumping around.
They're doing a puddle.
Yeah.
That's the other one.
I just like that Rohit can dance at a 7th grade level.
His body.
Define gravity.
He has a 6 year old body I guess.
Like no like man body but like can't move it. His 6 year olds can't move their bodies but they can. I don't know why he moves like that.
Yeah it's like the feet twisty thing. I don't know.
He's like doing like a Michael Jackson.
That's what happens when your mom falls while she's pregnant.
Outside of the plot, Rithik is a really good dancer.
Yeah.
Like yeah he's one of the good dancers in.
Yeah yeah.
Hey here was Rithik's mother's name was Sonia.
Oh yes yes it was.
This volume is obsession with Raj and Sonia's and Rohit. These are like names keep on popping up again and again.
Yeah.
Why is it? Because Indians don't have.
Yeah but these are very popular names. I love Indians.
Rohit I have heard. Sonia very.
Sonia. So many Sonias. At least North India.
Yeah then yes.
Alright.
The rain shots they filmed in Namibia but because the heat's so strong they had to use showers.
The first Sonia I met was like Indian but in Bangkok.
In my life.
Okay.
Should we talk about this Sonia? Do you want to tell?
Does everyone want to go around and say the first time they met a Sonia?
Even if it's like popular like I've never met a Sonia. Yeah.
Okay. Let's go on.
So yeah anyway like they you know that scene establishes their friendship and then like I guess Rohit thinks that like they're together.
You know like kids like man child.
Yeah.
Anyways like she.
Yeah the kids are all like hey go be the boyfriend or whatever.
They're the most supportive group of friends. A bunch of kids that give like relationship advice.
And they're all smarter than this guy who's repeated sixth grade. I'm assuming like 15 times.
No because you know why? Because they're gonna pass and go to the seventh grade but he cannot.
They're gonna bully him later down the road. These are all future bullies.
Yeah they're like you are boyfriend girlfriend if you kiss or something.
Yeah if you kiss.
Yeah so I guess they were there was like a scene where like she was introducing them.
Nisha was introducing her parents to Rohit and then back home Rohit wants to learn computers.
And then like they stumbled upon the machine that like calls out to the aliens.
I want to say something here like there was a scene like that scene like when Nisha was introducing Rohit to his parents.
So before Rohit comes into the picture in that scene like she was telling them like about Rohit and they were like yeah right.
Like this might have happened and his father sorry Nisha's father comes out with some research paper or something like that about the brain development issue.
And shows it like takes a printout shows it to Nisha and stuff like that.
And at that point of time Rohit comes right. And then when Rohit was saying like some random weird shit like he's gonna drink Complain or Complain or one bitter or something.
So his father was really startled and then Nisha was pointing at the paper that he only gave her as a printout to show that that paper read mental retard.
Really? Did you say that?
For a tiny bit of second I saw it's a paper that had that had mental retardness in its name of the paper.
So in India is the R word retarded as sensitive as it is in the West?
No I think it's a learned lesson we got from the West gradually.
Look in 2003 everyone was saying retarded.
Yeah that's true 2003 it was.
In America we're not sensitive. I said that all day in high school.
Like 2003 I was in 9th or 10th grade I literally said retard every other word at that time.
I just got the memo that it cannot be said but I never understood why it cannot be said.
But it's not PC. Yeah because when I went to university in the States this must have been like 2014-2015 we already had a whole campaign on campus about spread the word to stop the word the word being retarded.
We did use it for everything bad the same way we use gay for bad.
Like when I was growing up in high school things were gay or retarded.
If something was bad and that all went away and I'm fine with it I don't care.
No not for us.
The sun shines.
That is retarded.
But yeah anyway so all the high school words it took me a long time to unsay it which I don't have a problem with it but that's the only vocab we had back then.
Okay now Roy discovers his father's song-
So I was overconfused and then I think he gets like this like fantasy like was it like the next song it's like it's the title song like call me a guy or some shit.
He makes the sound from the some with the device right?
Yeah.
So here is another confusion I got. He's like he's saying that Nisha was asking him like how do you know like what to press or how was the order like how do you know this?
And he's like I knew it from childhood my mother taught me and then when he was using his mother got angry because he was using the computer.
So if he they are barred from using the computer if her mother had the trauma of that like okay because of this device my husband is not here anymore my son is like brain development issue.
Wait that's such a big leap I didn't even think about that so she's mad the computer for the UFO coming and flipping the car?
Yeah.
Is that like because otherwise what's wrong with using the computer?
She associates everything with that with the chain of events right? So she forbids anything to do with the alien she forbids.
No more aliens.
No not to deal with the computer or anything but that that was the computer that made that sound right? So if she was so anti of using that computer ever again like how did Rithik learn those sounds?
You know what's interesting?
That's the biggest question.
If he has been in sixth grade for like 10 years do you know the evolution of computers he saw from that time from 1993 to 2003 like he went from like you know VHS and cassette tapes to CDs to MP3s all while being in sixth grade.
In 1993 no one was learning computer in school.
I was.
Actually if you do the math it doesn't add up because he's 20 years old at this point right so and this is 2003 so his dad must have been calling aliens 1980s 1983 at the earliest.
But the computer looked old like that.
Right.
He says the computer is that bit.
Yeah yeah.
Boom boom boom boom.
I just think it's funny that he asked Rohit asked Nisha to teach him how to use a computer but then Nisha asked him can you teach me the tune so he did not want to type out the tune.
I don't know it was all like no it was it was just a just a just a facade.
I'm very excited.
The whole computer lesson was just a facade.
Nisha was like not even have good intention here.
Sorry.
She's taking advantage of it?
No.
Not yet.
I mean I think she wanted to get down by him at this point.
Yep this is this is the big hang up.
You're getting a glimpse of it now.
I don't think it's just my opinion.
The Koi Milge Ya song song towards the end becomes very sexual.
Like it's like Nisha is like projecting this guy who is a man child but physically well developed.
Yeah.
And kind of kind of lolling over him and then like the song's language Koi Milge Ya like I have got someone.
It means like oh I found someone.
It's totally a romantic words like I found someone Koi Milge Ya.
Like okay when they if they say Koi Milge Ya first term in with respect to Jadu that makes sense.
Okay I found someone alien who is helping us.
That's a different but the song happens the song happens when Jadu is not in the picture.
So Koi Milge Ya is kind of I found someone which is romantic and then the dance becomes towards towards the end as romantic.
And what does it say about her liking someone that's stupid.
So this was a big hang up just for just for context.
Khilli, Adam and I watched this together.
Nikki watched on his own and while we're watching it together Adam and Khilli were very stuck on this point about how can Nisha be dating Rohit.
She's exploiting him because he's a child basically.
I was opposing Adam a lot but towards the end of Koi Milge Ya song I'm like no Adam you're right.
Even though it's not very sexual but it's romantic at that point I wouldn't say it's sexual but it's romantic you see that there's feelings.
I felt like at this point it was more of like a platonic thing.
You guys didn't feel that way?
Ya ya ya it was platonic but platonic is still platonic like can you have a platonic relationship with Adam?
I think it's platonic but I think she's like she's developing feelings for him and I don't think she's like taking advantage of him.
She's not pushing him to do anything he's uncomfortable with.
It's like she's going with the flow but she is falling for him.
She's just waiting for him to be a mature person in 40 years.
It's a bit of a reach.
I agree. There was an Indian advertisement where a girl comes to see a like it's like an arranged marriage thing and the girl comes sees a house which is a very nice it's an Asian paint so some paint like advertisement and they see the painting on the house like it's such nice color.
The girl wants to get married married in that house and then the parents go to that house with the girl and they figure out that the boy they have is like a young kid and then she she says like oh man this is our currently like I will wait.
It was a paint like a wall paint advertisement.
I don't know I had to follow that.
Okay.
No go ahead.
It sounded like that, that she's waiting for waiting for him to grow up. Yeah, I don't know.
He was kind of fucked.
Again, if it was flipped if it was a guy with a 20 year old girl who had the brain of a seven year old or whatever you'd be like no way that's kind of wrong.
Both side both ways are wrong.
Yeah wrong either way.
Right right but as I'm saying like in the movie setting you see the intention of the person who's doing it right and she's not doing out of malicious intent.
I don't think it's malicious.
But he's like has he's like an imagine like the weird like boners this guy gets in like, you know, sixth grade.
It doesn't say whether he's gone through puberty or not.
He must have because he's like a 20 year old with muscles.
And one thing for me about this movie is that we don't know his mental age and just because he's feeling an academic setting doesn't mean he's at a certain age right.
Did he seem emotionally mature to you?
No no no not at all.
But like I think he had the capacity for it but his mom might have been so hung up on him finishing school that he was not allowed to mature in his own way.
Like he's just never gonna do well in math for instance but that doesn't mean that he can never gain some kind of best scientists from India.
But with some alien cells and alien drops.
I just think there's a lot of fish in the sea.
I'm curious why she would choose a guy with that mental capability no matter how many muscles he has over any other guy.
Maybe he was the sweetest guy.
I mean when you compare it to people like Raj who's beating him up you can see there's not that many good selections.
Like the downtown didn't have much choice.
Like she came, it was fun here to do, she was asking and then the guys available were like douche so she was like I'll just go with the retard.
But imagine you're like dating this guy and like you wake up and he like drew on the walls or he like shit, he like pissed the bed or shit himself.
Wait he was not doing that much Adam.
He's like eating cereal all day or playing video games.
Pissing the bed is not a six standard thing. Maybe he would paint on the wall and do like you know the draw stuff on the wall.
He never did that too.
You guys are building lore for this guy.
He cannot have a job, he cannot drive.
We don't know that.
He should have a job.
Should he drive?
He's driving a scooter on the road.
He can't drive a car, it's different.
He can't drive her anywhere.
He drives a scooter.
I don't think he can.
Again I don't believe in child labor Winnie, I guess you are.
But I don't think six year olds should work.
It depends on how you want to see his age.
I can't drive a car properly so should I not have a relationship?
You need to be able to drive a car.
A driver's license is a prerequisite for a relationship.
Oh no.
This is where the basketball comes in.
So the next scene is that there's a basketball game.
You said there's a bit of this movie, that movie.
This one has a bit of airbutt and space jam.
That airbutt element will come at a later point.
So the biker gang loves to play basketball.
They're like star players.
And then Rohit gets jealous of how much Nisha was cheering on for Raj.
That he tries to learn how to play basketball.
And then you get another bully scene where they circle around him and throw the basketball into his face.
And basketball is a weird choice because it's not big in India.
And it's not big in Europe that much either.
It's not like where this European village is.
Or even Canada a little bit.
So it's a weird choice that they're playing basketball.
I think it's just to show a jock sport.
Yeah, it's a jock sport.
I think that's the right thing.
I think basketball can be associated with rich people.
Yeah, and I think space jam came out in 2001.
I honestly think they saw a space jam.
That's what I think.
It goes around that time too.
There is a dog playing basketball, right?
Yeah, he plays a lot of sports.
There's a lot of movies.
Like one movie per sport.
But the Air Bud movie is a more realistic portrayal of basketball than this movie.
Okay, so here is the thing.
What is Hero Cup?
What was Hero Cup?
The championship they're playing.
He challenges Raj on a basketball game and says that...
Oh no, sorry.
This is later.
We have to meet Jadu first.
Yeah, sorry.
No, no worries.
I think we get like...
So yeah, he gets beaten up by a basketball fucking baby.
And then he's just like...
There's this weird prayer scene.
Like why do good people get punished?
Oh yeah, we should just mention...
There's some religious undertone.
There's a lot of Catholicism in here.
I forgot.
Yeah, the mom is Catholic and there's a lot of...
The mom is Catholic?
Wasn't she?
Did they have a bunch of Catholic imagery?
I assume they're Hindu.
No, the school was Catholic.
The school is Catholic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the father.
The school had a father.
The principal was kind of like, you know, those...
What about that thing?
The designation hierarchy in the Catholicism.
Yeah, so they have...
They have a lot of Catholicism.
They have a lot of Catholic symbols.
Yeah, anyways.
But he's basically like questioning to God
that why do bad things happen to good people or something.
Yeah.
And then I guess at the same time,
the sounds reached the alien mothership.
And that's when the aliens started.
Mother ship.
I don't understand what they're trying to do.
Like, are they here to drop that one alien off or something?
No.
Did he come here for like, I think, picnic or something?
No, it was the exact same plot as ET.
They all let...
No, I'm serious.
They all come out and then they all go back in
except he gets lost.
Yeah, the way.
Yeah, okay.
They build like a crop circle or some shit.
Anyway, the alien lands in Rohit's backyard
and that's where he takes the alien in.
The alien is like this blue Star Wars reject.
He's so cute.
Jadu, which is magic.
Yeah, Jadu is magic.
Magic.
Jadu.
He's so cute.
Winnie, you grew up to this movie.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, I watched it when I was young.
It was like a childhood family film.
Oh, damn, I've been bashing it.
No, but...
No, not nearly as much as Adam has been.
Yes.
I want to know your opinion on Jadu.
I love Jadu.
Jadu is cute.
I remember we used to...
Jadu was one of the few Hindi words we knew.
So after this movie, we just kept saying Jadu, Jadu,
like for most games.
Yeah, it was so very...
It was not a scary alien movie by any means.
Did you have any Jadu toys or merch?
No, I was asking Khilli if Jadu dolls were a thing.
But I feel like it should have.
Yeah, that's such a missed opportunity in a franchise.
They blew it if they don't have it.
Jadu is popular, actually.
Jadu is really popular.
They should have had like McDonald's Jadu toys.
Did he become like a cult classic
and did his character show up in other Indian movies as Jadu?
No, but there are so many amazing spoof of Jadu,
like on YouTube and everything.
People go check out the spoofs.
But they are mostly in like different Indian local languages,
sometimes like funny dialects and stuff like that.
I just found out a podcast where Jadu is a guest on the podcast
and he's just bashing on Rohit that how dumb he was.
How does he speak?
Does he speak in the same voice as the movie?
No, no, no. He's just speaking in Hindi there.
And then he was just bashing him.
I tried to help him so much, but he's such a fucker.
But whatever I gave, I had to give his son because he was such an idiot.
Yeah, the podcast was funny.
Yeah, I like the Jadu character though,
because I feel like we were not scared about aliens at all growing up.
I think growing up in Indian culture, there's already plenty to be afraid of.
You'll see your parents are the most scary ghosts.
But yeah, like aliens were friendly because of this movie.
Men like Raj?
Yeah, that's a real ghost.
We watched it a couple of times.
My brothers loved it.
Yeah, anyway.
What a ride this movie has been.
Anyway, so the whole town hears the alien invasion with quotation marks.
And what do they do?
I think they start off like a two-day festival instead of panicking.
That's when Rohit...
Oh yeah, here comes the district magistrate.
He fucking gives a holiday for the whole town or something.
Guys, in India, district magistrate is strictly like an administrative post.
It's not an elected person or anything.
They just give some exam and then get that administrative post.
And they just have administrative duties and power.
They don't have anything to do with giving holidays,
like behaving like a king of that fucking land.
Making tons of money.
Or gathering an army to raid the forest for aliens.
They don't have nothing of that sort of power.
They're just a pure, lean, administrative post.
Which is so weird because it's a movie.
They could have given him any title.
Yeah, they could have given him...
Why did you choose this?
He was a royal prince of the bygone era's princely state or something like that.
He's a politician now or something like that.
A politician would hold away more power and influence over people like that.
It's a minister or something like that.
But district magistrate, who is a clinically lean administrative post...
It's like the secretary telling everyone they don't have to work.
Yeah.
Anyway, district magistrate.
Yeah, so they threw a two-day festival.
And then the kids asked Rohit to dress up.
And Rohit dressed up as an alien and gave his mom PTSD.
Wait, let's talk about that.
Because he did not even dress up as an alien.
He takes a pot, right?
Where there's no way that he can put it over his head.
No way.
He's a dumbie.
He doesn't know.
It's just a pot.
And he draws eyes on it.
Oh, yeah.
That is so funny.
There's no hole or anything to put his head through.
Was he going to break the pot with the eyes?
And even if he does, how is he going to see or breathe in that pot?
And his head wouldn't even fit, but he's too stupid.
By the way, a seven-year-old can know if your head can fit in a jar or not.
And he's just drawing eyes on this clay jar.
I just learned a part of his brain is in one year old stages.
Seven, one, two, three, seven.
And the pituitary gland is in 16.
This holiday is basically Halloween that the town puts on.
Yeah.
Very briefly.
What was that alien town you visited in Thailand?
Yeah.
Festival.
I forget.
Do you remember?
Udon, right?
Udon Thani or Ubon.
No, no, no.
It doesn't matter.
I forget.
It's a whole alien festival, right?
Yeah.
I forgot the name.
I forgot too.
I totally forgot.
Totally forgot.
But this one in India in the movie happened for two full days.
And even though they realized there's an alien on the loose, they still went on with the festival.
I thought that was weird.
Khao Kala.
Yeah.
I think so.
Khao Kala.
Yeah.
It's like that kind of festival.
First we celebrate.
Okay.
I thought it was weird.
Like first we celebrate and then we have the alien.
Right.
And that's from Jaws.
So they steal from all the Spielberg movies because in Jaws, like the shark is on the loose
and they still put on a town, like they still open up the town and have like the town party
or whatever, even though like Jaws is still out.
So yeah, this alien is still out and dude, they don't want to tell anyone so they just
put on this party.
Yeah.
And then we did like, we had like a musical number with Jadoo.
And I will add like the last two songs, like at this point there's like Coca Cola product
placement.
That was so sorry.
There's so many product placements.
Yeah.
I can only remember Coca Cola.
Nestle.
The Bon Vita.
The drink that they keep talking about.
That's like a, that keeps on coming again and again.
And later we'll have hero Honda Cup.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And the restaurant they're at is basically a Nestle restaurant, like in the town square.
It's just Nestle.
Well, that's how they were able to get sponsorships to go to so many different countries, I guess.
All these ads.
That's it.
We solved it.
Yeah.
Money laundering anyway.
The Halloween thing was filmed in Brazil.
Like carnival, which is not appropriate for kids.
Anyway.
So Raj finds out that he was being cocked because Rohit and Nisha was like spending
all of time.
So he did what any sensible man would do by announcing to every family that he's going
to marry Nisha.
Easy loophole.
Yeah, that's it.
Like, yeah, I'm going to marry Nisha.
And then like, you know, it create, just to create, just to do it out of spite for Rohit.
Rohit gets jealous.
Right.
And Rohit was upset, right?
He was so upset that he was crying to his mom that like, oh, I thought we were boyfriend
girlfriend.
And I don't know if this is correct translation subtitles, but I wrote it down.
Like she, his mom says it's not possible because Nisha is a sensible woman.
She can be a friend, but not companion for life.
She's too sensible for you.
She was actually saying that like she, she's a normal person and you are not.
She can be your friend, but not a wife.
Because she's right.
What kind of message is that?
You are not.
He's 60s, can't date.
By the way, I keep saying six year old.
He's in seventh grade.
How old is that?
Like 12 years old.
12?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
Yeah.
12.
All right.
The math doesn't work, right?
Doesn't matter.
But yeah, like she was saying that like, you know, she's too sensible for you.
And I guess that's when Jadu overheard.
Yeah.
Over her, her say that.
So later, she was, she was just like, it's a mainstalk, right?
Like, because he also knows what happens and oh no, no, no.
She's telling him that why it happened to him.
Yeah.
Why he turned out that way.
That's where Jadu is like, Oh my God, it was our species fault that he's, he's, he has
a brain development issue because of like people, like our people tried to visit before.
And then that's when the job, the cameras zoomed on Jadu, Jadu is like, he like sad music.
And then Jadu gets like so perplexed and he understands it.
Now it's the time to take actions.
Yeah.
Like make things right.
I could have done this the whole time.
But now I will.
Why would I like meddle in someone's personal life and their brain development?
So what now I have a reason because it was our fault.
So what Keeley is referring to is that like later that night Rohit is sleeping and then
Jadu walks over with his hand on Rohit's forehead and crazed the autism away.
Brain deficiency.
Unretards him.
Unretards.
I don't know what to say about that.
But he stops midway because Rohit left.
So that's why he's not totally cured.
If you remember.
But he's brain sufficient now.
Yeah.
He can do he can do 10 standards math.
He can solve math problems at a 10th grade level without any pencil.
Which was actually a 6th grade level.
It was like a very pretty easy rotation problem.
And then he can say how to copy and paste the file.
This is my favorite part.
This was my favorite scene.
I was so excited to get to this point because he barges in to show off his like smartness
and goes in the computer class like you can't be here.
You're too dumb to use a mouse.
And he's like, no, I'm smart now.
And they're like, prove it.
How do you copy a file?
He's like, oh, well, you just right click on file explorer and you go to the file document.
And it's like the easiest thing in the world.
It's like a drag and drop desktop.
It's like how to copy the file.
Like his answer sounded very complicated.
You went to Windows Explorer and you right click on the file.
Then you go to the other window and right click and then click paste.
And that's how you copy and paste.
And like, holy shit, he's so smart.
Dude, do you see kids with like iPads and stuff?
This guy's 12.
12 year olds like make Roblox like computer programs now.
Like what?
And he's also been around for so long.
You see the entire progress of computers and like he's gone from like command prompt to
like look up porn to like drag and drop windows to XP at this point.
It's 2003.
And like, but that's like the test they give to kids like, can you drag this file over
here?
And you see how the expectations of his teachers were so low because that was enough for them
to be so impressed that they called his mother to tell him drag and drop a file.
He can copy and paste a Word document.
Come see this.
I've never seen someone this intelligent before.
Yeah.
That scene basically had a very low bar.
They were done with it.
No one's ever been able to copy and paste a file.
The whole intelligence of the town is pretty low.
I mean, and also like the school was trying to kick him out, right?
They were telling him, telling his mom to take him to like a slow school for slower
children.
Yeah.
So yeah, they did not.
He even did like that mic drop moment where he was telling the teacher, Rohit was telling
the teacher do not make men so small because they can achieve greatness or something.
And then the kids are like clapping like, oh.
Oh my God.
He just not only learned computer and math, he learns like how to be a politician and
stuff like that.
And his eyesight.
Yeah.
Don't forget his eyesight.
Now he doesn't need glasses.
Yeah.
That's the Spider-Man there.
That's when he first realizes something like he's cured.
Yeah.
We came out right after Spider-Man.
Yeah.
That's the Spider-Man one.
Spider-Man was 2001, I think.
2001, 2002, yeah.
Yeah.
That was wild.
And then like his mom, yeah, they called his mom and then like she hugs the alien.
Like the way I see it is like you made my son not retarded.
He can get a wife now.
He can take care of me when I'm old.
He can get a sensible woman.
He can be normal.
And that's not everything.
He gets superpowers.
He gets like super strength.
Oh yeah.
And his muscles are like all like ripped up.
His muscles rip his shirt.
He halts out.
Nobody wonders, by the way, how he just got ripped overnight.
Nobody ever asks.
What happens to Spider-Man as well?
I think the Jadu explanation makes more sense than a spider biting you.
Yeah.
More realistic for sure.
Aliens coming to heal your dumb brain.
Like no, it's a part of brain that makes your muscle.
Yep.
And Jadu, by the way, is a blue small alien.
That's how muscles work.
By brain.
Yeah.
Jadu is a kid.
Jadu looks like a baby alien.
I don't know if he was a baby alien, if there is a hierarchy or a family unit in the alien
world in general, but he looks like a baby alien, right?
He's a cute blue alien the size of a child.
Like the size of all of his friends, Rohit's friends.
Correct.
Yeah.
That's funny.
Mistook him as one of his child friend like B2.
Yeah.
He thought like it's his friend, a kid friend.
Jadu.
So Rohit gains like superpowers and you know, now that he's like a charismatic stud, he
confronts Nisha and Nisha tells him that there is nothing, there's nothing, I'm not getting
married, she's not getting married to Raj.
And I think we had this like this weird scene, man.
I think it's weird.
I don't know.
It's like he said that he'll look, he'll find a partner for Nisha.
So he asked Nisha, what are you looking for?
And Nisha's like, I'm looking for like a mentally and physically strong man.
I'm looking for someone who's dumb as bricks, but strong.
And she just, he just, I think he like rips his shirt a bit.
I don't remember, but he pins her.
No, no.
Yeah.
He pins her.
Am I strong enough now?
That's weird, man.
What?
I mean, she kind of deserved it.
She's so turned on.
She was playing around him being dumb and then getting all those gray area bullshit.
She kind of deserves it.
Okay.
This is, listen, sorry, just to, sorry to revisit this, but now I like my, when I'm
thinking about this, if she had, if she did, if they did date and he goes like his friend's
birthday party, she's like a 22 year old woman going to like, you know, a 12 year old boy's
birthday party.
Yes.
She's to hang out with all his dumb friends.
We mentioned this point while watching is that she was gradually become a kid.
Yeah.
That's true.
And that's the case like her behavior, her mannerism kind of behave like was becoming
like kids, right?
Yeah.
She got a lot better as a woman.
Which we use a nice character development, nice script writing.
Yeah.
I think it's just, it's the lesson that we shouldn't forget our inner child.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you for putting a positive spin on this, Nikki.
Thank you.
I mean, that's why I date children.
I mean, yeah.
Oh, geez.
Anyway.
No guys, that was just a joke.
Big joke.
Please don't cancel us.
Anyways.
So yeah, the mom finds the alien.
They all, the kids find the alien.
Yeah.
There's like a...
Do you remember when the mom doesn't see the alien though, even though he's like in plain
sight?
It's like they were hiding in like a fruit.
One morning right after he cures Rohit, like the mom walks in and Rohit's literally just
sitting in front of the alien.
You can see the alien behind.
The alien is right behind him.
There's this blue thing right behind him.
She just doesn't see.
And there's this other scene where like, he's just like in there like somewhere, but she's
doing laundry and just like doesn't see this blue alien.
I've seen this scene many times on other films.
It's so fucking funny.
Yeah, she's blind.
She's blind.
Blind faith.
And then the next thing was that like, I have a question for Winnie or Kaylee.
It's like, do Indian clubs, like nightclubs have host dance competitions?
Yeah, I was like, what?
I exactly said the same thing.
What nightclubs have dance competition on a random night?
Like, okay, I've not been into many dance clubs in India, but like dance competition
there?
No, no way.
They always do competitions.
It's always like hero cup or like the dance competition.
Like it's always these weird little like...
Magic, it's magic.
We have to have judges say that you're better.
I mean, how big like Bollywood dancing is?
I assume there'd be some dance-offs in the clubs.
No, never.
Not a thing.
No, it's just men dancing and irritating women.
Yeah, I asked that question because Rohit wants to impress Nisha with like some dance
skills.
Yeah.
And then like he enters like this dance competition in a nightclub.
Okay.
And like at first he fumbles and then you get like this really like flamboyant musical
number.
Yeah.
It's magic.
It's like disco dancers.
He was kind of copying Dev Anand.
He's like a very old like, you know, like 50s, 60s, 70s era of Bollywood.
60s and 70s, I guess.
Yeah.
Of Bollywood.
Like he kind of dressed like him.
So that's why he was looking so retro and he was shaking his head like in a certain
way which was like a very Dev Anand signature move.
And like his hand movement, like when he starts dancing and he cannot dance, those face that
that particular part on that whole scene was kind of influenced.
Like he was shown to be trying to imitate Dev Anand, which is really absurd because
a kid in 2003 would not ever watch Dev Anand on their own if they're not their parents
or their grandparents are not playing anything on it.
I mean, they would try to copy the contemporaries heroes, like which kids goes back to like
60 years old heroes to try to imitate.
But anyway, like I just like that.
It's like a full circle for me because all I can think about is Happy New Year dance
competitions.
We're always we're always having dance competitions.
But you think you are dancing so well, so much better than those Happy New Year parts.
Better than Shah Rukh Khan, dude.
What do you think?
Yeah, of course.
He's like one of the best dancers.
Hands down.
Yeah.
Well, better than the disco dancer.
Better than disco dancer, man.
I mean, he's from different era.
But yeah, yes.
Like.
Yeah.
And then so yeah, he wins.
I guess he wins over Nisha because everyone, all the ladies there were like, oh, you're
so terrific.
And it's like, dance with me.
OK.
I guess another thing like I saw it in the video.
I was like, oh, you're so good.
I think it's like dance with me, OK, I guess another thing like I saw Nisha's face expression
change while he started dancing and then like he grabs Nisha and dance with her.
And like, yeah, it felt really weird, like how his face expression, facial expression
was changing.
Like he's like, shock.
I was like joking that she she could feel his water or something like that.
So then the guy, the biker gang walks into the club.
I call my I call my dick, Jadu.
Oh, Jesus.
It's magic.
OK.
All right.
This will make you not stupid.
What was I going to say?
Yeah.
So this is where the thing that Adam was mentioning a lot earlier is that the biker gang comes
in with the basketball.
You're right.
So like, are they playing a game in the club?
If not, like, why is he walking around in the club with a basketball?
Like, is there bullying props?
He just loves walking like you just came from a game at the club.
So it's like people walk in with clubs like hockey stick and stuff like that to bully
and beat people up.
They they walk in with basketball.
Do people actually do that, though, in Indian clubs?
They walk in with any kind of props.
If there's going to fight going to be broken, of course, people are going to be like, get
ready with clubs and stuff.
But basketball is the worst thing to bring to a fight.
I think they're just trying to trigger PTSD because they had hit him with the basketball
once before.
It's probably like, don't forget.
Yeah, totally on point.
Yeah, that's the only explanation.
Yeah, they're actually really smart.
Yeah.
So they walk in all angry, right.
And then like, Raj was like, stealing my girl.
And so he challenges Rohit to this basketball game and the winner gets the hero Cup that
Haley mentioned.
And we are going to kiss the hero Cup and then a kiss from Nisha.
Did they ask Nisha about this?
No, no way.
Who gives a fuck?
They just they're just going to get a kiss.
Whoever wins.
Yeah, as in Indian epics, guys in Mahabharata, like they kind of the debate was the the wife
of the Pandavas like drop a like they were like, oh, if they challenge the core of us,
like the other side, like the villain side on like a game of Pasha, which is like a Ludo
kind of like a like a board game.
And whoever wins gets the gets their wife like they're already sharing a wife.
So they get their wife.
So yeah, it lies.
And the bait was done by the hero side.
Of course.
Yeah.
In the epic Indian epic.
Like so.
So that history lies in Indian epics.
I do like if it's like because it's not like a one on one game.
It's a basketball game.
So you have to get your friends to do this game for you so that you can kiss this girl.
And if my friend was like, hey, can you like play basketball with me?
And if we win, I get to kiss this girl who was an aspect.
Fuck off.
Like, no, no care.
But there's like nothing in it for me.
But here is my question is it shows it says champions trophy.
Like it's a it's a championship.
Right.
So it has a trophy.
It's like a medal.
And then like a lot of audiences and everything.
So it means like there has to be like a league of tournaments.
A ladder.
Other other teams.
And then you have to sign up at one point and then get to the final and win this big
huge cup and then like get that which deserves to be attended by so many audiences and stuff.
But here he just puts a challenge random bait.
And then he goes to like a huge championship trophy.
Like the transition that the match is a championship trophy where like the whole town is present
to watch.
And it's like the winner gets a motorbike.
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck is this?
They just any team can sign up to the final match without playing before because they
were directly going to the final match because people were surprised that the kids are playing
here.
Right.
Not like they have they they challenge them and then went up to the ladder and made them
at final.
They did not go into the final match.
I think what is that?
The whole town is there and it's a team of adults versus a team of children for a motorcycle.
Rohit had one job, right?
He already had the powers by Jadu to help him.
He just had to find a team of adults and he still couldn't do that.
He got a bunch of 10 year olds.
It is like the most surreal scene ever.
Just seeing like the adults versus kids thing.
I was right and people taking it seriously.
There's so much to question.
No one questioned anything.
Why are the opposing team children?
Why did they get superpowers?
Who cares?
Why are they flying all over the motorcycle?
I'd like nothing was cloudy days suddenly like the superpowers.
Well, OK, let's go back in.
We were jumping ahead.
How did they get these powers?
How are they flying?
Jadu is because of Jadu literally like they were just trying to figure out.
OK, like how are we going to beat these guys?
And then Jadu gives them the ability to jump high, I guess.
Fly literally fly.
They're flying around with basketballs, like doing after effects, zooming around the screen.
But at some point, they start to lose pretty bad, right?
They start to lose pretty bad.
Like because it's cloudy.
It was so cloudy.
And the thing that I forgot to mention is that Jadu feeds off sunlight.
That's how he gets his powers, the sunlight.
It sounds like a god thing.
I don't know.
His power is the sunlight.
Like trees do photosynthesis and garnishes power by using sunlight.
So that's what that's what the explanation Nisha was giving.
So like Jadu uses sunlight to turn energy into magic.
I just see it as an act of God.
Basically, he's useless in a Scandinavian country or at that time.
That's why he didn't go there.
But yeah, they come in with this like the way they hide Jadu is like, Jesus.
They think like Rohit is wearing like a huge backpack, basket, basket backpack or something.
And then they just leave it in the corner that is like so out of place.
There are holes in it for Jadu's eyes.
No one asks anything.
No one bothers to look at what are they carrying?
Nothing.
It's just there.
Like no one bats an eye.
Like and that's where they get their powers.
Like at first they were like.
Pretty knife-downs people.
This whole cloud thing reminds me of Indian prime minister saying like the Indian Army
like Indian Army did a sneak attack on Pakistan's soil with like the Indian Air Force.
And then it was not it was nothing.
It was like a fall attack and stuff like that.
And then later on, prime minister came on like media and say said like, oh, I that day,
it was cloudy.
So I thought the radar cannot catch the airplanes.
And that's why I thought like, oh, badal hai.
Like easy ho sakta hai.
Kind of like it was cloudy.
So like that would help us hiding the airplanes from the radar.
So that was so absurd.
Everyone was like, what?
Like you didn't know like how radar technology work and stuff like that.
So whenever they did this, I was watching this scene like where, oh, it was cloudy.
So Jadu couldn't work for a bit.
Like it reminded of our prime minister's speech, like speech, like how he decided to attack
on which day because it was a cloudy day.
5G towers.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
Anyway.
It got cloudy and then like they, it got cloudy and then they lose their powers.
And that's when Raj's team was like dominating to like 50 points, I think or something.
49 to 47 or 48.
Yeah.
49 was an odd number because I didn't know like how, how basketball.
Yeah.
Two points or three points.
Okay.
But then a lot of times they're like shooting it in and they're just getting one point up.
So it didn't seem consistent throughout the movie.
And the basketball, just the basketball stadium was in the forest.
And at the very end, let's not forget that Rohit not only shoots the final buzzer point
in, but he also ends up standing on the, on the hoop.
He was literally stood on the hoop.
And then he also did like pull-ups just to go out.
Fucking douchebag.
He became a douchebag.
I mean, yeah, he was turning into douchebag.
Like his mannerism, his talking points, the same things where he was saying the, yeah,
he was.
He's a 12 year old guys.
If a 12 year old could fly and have muscles like that, he'd be a douchebag.
Well, no longer.
Now mentally he seems to be, I don't know, 70 or 80 years old with him.
Very wise.
So if Yadu could do anything, he should have just like move the ball to the hoop, right?
Not the people.
Yeah.
Because they have to be discreet, right?
They cannot let people, they know that everyone is looking for this one alien.
They don't throw the ball, because the ball just goes in the net all the time.
That would have been way easier, but no, they were, he was making the kids fly and Ritik
fly literally from one end of the court to the other end of the court.
That's where he lands on the hoop, right?
And an alien just landed in the city a week ago, right?
So, but nobody seems suspicious or confused or anything.
They're just celebrating this victory.
They're like, Yadu, he doesn't know the rules of basketball and he keeps like making them
score for the other team and stuff like Johnny's shit.
We didn't teach him basketball.
He keeps lying us all around the court and we keep losing.
Yeah.
And they did an air bud moment.
He wins, Rohit's team wins, gets the girl, but not, he doesn't get the kiss because they
take the bike together, the Honda bike, and then goes on like a, I think this is like
the song where they fall in love or something.
It was like taking place in the Alps where they wear a lot of costumes too.
Like very fun.
It's very campy.
I don't know.
That is a very Bollywoody part.
Like when the music number happens all over the world and then they transport to the mountains.
But then the celebration gets cut short because like the army is like hunting down the Yadu.
And then the, that guy, the comedian police Johnny Lever.
Yeah, he saw, he sees like the basket moving.
Yeah.
And then like, this is a weird cut because like he sees, he sees the basket moving.
So he calls upon the army and then suddenly the basket is like in the middle of the field.
And then they like surround, they like circle it again, circling it again, they circle around
the bag.
And as they're about, as with all like, like they all came out with like guns pointed at
this basket.
And then as soon as the moment they draw in, I don't know what happens, but like Rohit
just comes in like swoops in and grabs the bag.
I don't know how he knew that.
I don't, I don't understand that.
Like, and then we get like this long chase scene and then he gets cornered and they go
through the basket and then it wasn't the alien.
Yeah.
It was like a bunch of like Bay of hail.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
And then like, Bay of hey, no, just a bail of hey.
It's like a time twist.
And then cut back to the bedroom where Yadu is explaining how he, how he evaded.
But here's the thing, Yadu cannot talk Hindi.
Like he just makes sounds and we are barely a few words, but he could explain the whole
narrative, the whole fucking story.
But Yadu does speak Hindi later on, he speaks actual Hindi.
Yeah, he understands Hindi for a very weird reason.
I mean, even though Rakesh Duryodhana, like Rithik's father was like sending all this
OM signal, but he could just send like Hindi songs, I guess Bollywood songs and Yadu could
have understand like Yadu species could have understood because he just understand Hindi
perfectly later on we found out.
They're all in the house, right?
And then the army is like, has them surrounded and Yadu basically explains, no, wait, no,
Sonya suggests that there's only one way we can get away with this is to send Yadu home,
which is like ET.
And then Yadu explains that if he goes back home, they all lose their superpowers.
And I thought that was like, you know, in the beginning, I'm going to get into it for
a little bit, but like they were gonna like, that's why I thought that it was kind of nice,
like kind of tragic in a way.
But like, I thought the message was like, okay, we return Yadu.
It's like be you to be yourself.
Yeah, like be your man child, authentic man child self.
But I'm going to get into that later, a little later on what happens at the end.
But I think you all know what I'm going to talk about.
But basically like that you get like this long chase scene where I guess I'll cut right
to the end of it.
Like essentially he sends Yadu home and he gets like, okay, Yadu goes home with his like
family of blue, blue alien, blue alien freaks.
And he basically gets Rohit basically gets arrested by the army.
But then like you get like this quick montage that he gets released because he's also because
he's a shining example of compassion and kindness.
And also because he's mentally disabled.
Mental healthy shoes.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Yeah, they're like, what are we doing here?
And then they just hail him as a hero.
And then like you get like this finale final scene where like he's like walking with Nisha
and Nisha just says this thing where like, I know what you're thinking.
You don't you you're thinking about how you lost your powers, but my love for you has
not gone away.
I'm saying your dick, that's good.
I'm gonna keep going to getting back to it.
And then Raj corners them again and then like basically goes him into like kicking the basketball
back at it.
Again basketball.
Again the basketball.
And so Rohit does kick the basketball and it turns out that he still has superpowers.
Yes.
And he sees the sees Yadu spaceship on the top of the corner of the eye, like of the
sky.
Yeah.
Nisha says like you got your powers back.
What was the whole point?
Here's my theory.
I think Yadu is not giving him the power forever.
It's just like he gonna visit the near about earth from time to time.
And those are the days with the can perform.
Oh, so so Nisha is gonna have to deal with Rikthik being seven years old at some on some
days and the proper adult on some days.
Way to keep a relationship alive.
Nisha is calling Yadu like where the fuck are you?
Please come back.
He's throwing food on the wall.
It's been fucking five days.
You were supposed to take break for two days.
Come fuck here.
You can't stop watching porn.
He knows computer now.
I think that's my biggest hung up because like it just feels like it's such a cop out
man.
Like I just think that it undid it undos it undid all the you know because you're gonna
lose your powers.
I thought he was gonna send a message that like hey it's fine.
Be your stupid self.
Yeah.
That's it.
I'm gonna go.
I'm going to burn.
Like you know it's where it's the decision.
It's the decision that that's the big deal.
Like you know he didn't know that he would get power back but he took the chance and
he not.
Yeah, it was a selfless sacrifice.
It was a senseless sacrifice which was paid as like, it's like biblical stories.
Like when you are about to like when you're about to sacrifice your kid but then the God
gives your kid back to you anyway because you sacrificed your kid.
Imagine being a development developmentally disabled person watching this expecting to like feel better about yourself for the positive message of the movie.
And at the end, it's like, yeah, you can get better.
He's like, have an alien rely on your benevolent god alien.
I think they wanted to have the moment to or niches like even if you're stupid, I still like you.
So yeah, so it doesn't seem like she's in it for the wrong reason.
But it's not the wrong reasons because it made him like a normal like mental age.
So like that's not liking him for the wrong reasons.
That is a good thing.
And then but they need her to be like, no, I still like you when you're really stupid to my point.
He had a developmental issue, right?
But he doesn't have a memory issue or anything.
He cannot process newer, newer information.
He cannot process maybe the newer emotions and stuff.
But whatever he learned during that phase should stay with him.
Right. Yeah.
It shouldn't go away. The copy paste function that he learned because of.
It's so funny if he goes back to a computer, he's like, I have no idea how this works anymore.
I don't know how to copy this file.
I'm only 12 mentally.
I don't 12 year olds have no idea how to use a mouse.
Yeah, that's her movie.
And I guess that's not the end of it.
You know, because like, OK, so I watched it separately from you guys.
Right. And then by the time I was finished with the movie, I was like clamoring for more.
Wow. And then like, wow, I found out that there is more.
Yes, there is more.
There's a sequel and it's not even an E.T. parody anymore.
It's a superhero.
The film took the took the only trajectory it could logically have.
Right. What happens after E.T.?
Elliot has a kid and the kid is a superhero.
Elliot's friend has a kid.
Oh, yeah. Right. Elliot's girlfriend has a kid.
Elliot. If Elliot married an adult woman and their kid has a superhero baby because of E.T.
It's because of the power that he gave Rohit and his dig got like superpower.
Of course. Yeah, because of course.
Yeah. Then his son becomes a superhero.
Yeah. So they made Krish one or Krish and then Krish three.
There's no so there's no Krish two because it's just Krish is the sequel.
And then Krish three, obviously.
Yeah. And we will we will watch these.
Of course, we have to.
They're ready to I don't know when yet, but yes, it becomes a superhero series
played by the same guy playing his own son.
Yeah, which is like a regular thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
This guy, Rakesh Roshan, the director, he has like this weird thing that he always
starts his films name with a K. Yeah.
And also he believes in numerology and stuff like that.
So I wonder whether it keeps to like
like not using Chris to is like a decision out of like this reason or or
this reason there's two Rs in Krish.
So maybe the two Rs meant it's the second one.
Yes.
I'm pulling.
Yeah, there's double reason.
After watching this movie, it does have the exact same plot as E.T.
But it makes you realize that the plot of E.T. is really stupid.
And how much of a genius Spielberg is like, it's so easy to make bad movies.
And the concept of like, OK, an alien gets left behind and then forms a bond
with a child and gives him superpowers and alien goes back.
It's literally both movies.
But Spielberg took that and made one of the greatest movies ever.
It's just an incredible movie.
Emotional stakes are like amazing.
Like it has it's perfect.
It's like a perfect film.
And then these this company takes the exact same plot and makes like three hours
of like shit basically with the exact same framework, not to show the childhood film.
But like it's amazing.
Like it just made me respect Spielberg
because it's so easy for things to go left with weird high content ideas like this.
And he I have more respect for it now.
There you go.
E.T. ripoff, rips of E.T.
Did you have thoughts, Winnie, like because you grew up with it revisiting it now?
Well, it's hard for me to be super critical of it the way you are.
That's why I think I'm pushing back when you make critical statements also.
But I've never watched E.T. so I cannot compare.
But I think this was a child like a children's movie, a family movie.
That was the client, like the target audience.
Right.
So I think they kind of shaped the movie pretty well for their target audience.
That's why there's a cute alien as well.
Was the alien E.T. cute like this?
He was uglier, a lot uglier and more frail.
Like a little man.
Yeah.
I remember I expected more out of this film for some reason.
I didn't know. I don't know why.
Even as a kid.
Oh, yeah, we had to touch upon this.
So was Killy also a stubborn film critic as a child?
Apparently, yes.
I was not a child then.
I was...
Wait, 2003, right?
Yeah.
2003 means I was already 13 years old.
So the same age, same as Hrithik Roshan's mental age.
Yeah.
And you still weren't impressed?
You didn't relate completely to this?
I wanted more because I was already a fan of Hrithik because he has this nice
physique and then his mannerism was way better than the contemporary actors.
In my eyes, like in my teenage, I like he was like more charismatic than other
heroes, and then I had seen his action films already, like where he was like
a really good action, like played like really nice, like fighting, like action
characters and then like stuff like that.
So I was kind of expecting more as like an alien, like more nuance in the story.
But he did act very well in the movie.
He actually did.
He acts better than Amir Khan, I would say.
In PK?
Yeah.
But Amir Khan is playing an alien.
Yeah, it's hard to judge.
It is like choosing nice scripts, not acting.
Acting is like at par with any other Tom, Dick, Harry.
But he chooses nice scripts for, I mean, Bollywood standard.
Yeah.
Nicky, what were your thoughts?
Well, despite all the batshit insane-ness that goes into this movie,
I actually enjoyed it.
Yeah.
It's like everything I love about Bollywood.
It's just the way it tells the story.
It's just all the ridiculous ways, things that could happen.
Because I think I know, I kind of feel like I know what to expect from a blockbuster
like this after seeing things like Joann, like things that defies like expect,
like normal plot conventions and like character character developments.
It's just like, it's amazing.
It's just funny.
It's illogical in a way.
But it's the whole the whole thing is like a big roller coaster ride.
Very cliched.
Yeah, I liked it.
And I cannot wait to see the sequel.
Actually, like you were saying, I was critical, right?
But I actually like Trish more than Koi Milgeo.
Yeah.
Do you really like Trish?
Yeah, I like Trish like when I watched it.
Yeah, I love the theater.
I'm excited to watch Trish.
I'm excited to watch it.
It is a weird leap.
You wouldn't think that this is where the movie would go next.
Yeah.
I don't know about you.
I mean, I enjoyed it.
I mean, again, it made me really respect E.T.
Like the movie does that same thing with Killy.
What was the other one we saw that had the Terminator music?
Colonel John.
Yeah, the one that we never finished because it was so bad.
But like, you know, when they were playing Terminator music, I'm like, wow,
I really miss Terminator.
And like every time they brought up E.T.
things, I really would like to be watching E.T.
because it is really good.
And I like this movie.
It's fun.
The switching locations is bad shit.
Like I was trying to imagine how you would even edit, like how you plan shooting
that when like two different shots on the same street are in different countries.
I was like, that's wild.
And I could totally be if I was a kid watching this like nine or 10,
I would be obsessed with it.
I'd be 100 percent obsessed with it.
Like the basketball, of course, like I would love the air but antics.
I like I like aliens, you know.
Yeah.
The main characters ripped and there's scooters in it.
Like I would love it.
I'd have a huge crush on Nisha as well.
And Jadu, don't forget Jadu.
And I have a huge crush on Jadu as well.
So cute.
I would love Jadu.
How would you have crush on Jadu?
It's cute.
Like as a pet.
No, I wanted to fuck Jadu.
I thought he was sexually.
No, I thought he was sexually attractive.
What's more unethical, fucking Jadu or Rick deGrosse?
That's such a good question.
Why do you say that?
Because Jadu, however cute or alien he is, he still looks an adult part of that species.
You're saying it's more ethical to fuck Jadu.
We never see any other aliens.
We don't know.
The way he takes a decision that it was aliens fault that Ritik turns out this way.
So he has to do help and then everything.
Really big leaps.
The mental gymnastics to be able to fuck an alien.
All the decisions Jadu took and everything.
I think Jadu isn't an adult.
It's like older than Ritik.
Like young Ritik.
Yeah, I think it would be better if you should fuck Jadu.
OK, so different species is better than underage mentally.
I'll stand by that.
As long as it's a consenting alien, I think it's OK.
I mean, there was...
Boop, boop, boop.
More like, don't touch me.
Oh my God.
Jadu does like boop, boop.
OK, thanks for giving me that image.
I'm so not going to get the t-
So I'm not going to forget.
Alright.
Guys, this is a must watch.
Like this is one of the best alien film ever made.
Not only in India, but in the whole universe.
Yeah, and I think it gives good insight on how aliens act.
We did like two alien films already.
Yeah.
Is there a big alien theme in Bollywood?
No, it's rare, but we did already too.
I think these are the two films, alien films ever.
That cannot be.
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