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If you guys want coke, he got some.

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When he can you grab me one?

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I just can't move because zero.

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All right. Thank you.

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Sorry, I don't take well to order.

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It was a request. I was I was going to do it.

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I think it's I think it's something that really wanted.

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I hesitated, but I think this is something I will never get rid of

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because I have two older brothers.

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They tried to order me so much.

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So it was like constant, like rebellious, you know.

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Sure. And I felt that come on.

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I was like, no, just get up and go get it.

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Well, I was stuck in the break.

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I know I looked at you and like he literally cannot get up.

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He's not asking you just because you're a girl.

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I know.

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But I have this whole internal dialogue.

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Welcome to Fear of Stars, Desi Films Decoded, the podcast where four friends

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from different backgrounds unlock the world of Desi cinema.

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I'm Winnie, the Desi who's never been to India.

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I'm Nicky, who is definitely not part of a gang.

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What?

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What?

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Your turn.

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Oh, yeah. OK. Hi, I'm Killy.

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I'm Indian.

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That's cool.

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I'm Adam. I'm American.

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Yeah, I didn't know we were just shorter and shorter.

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Yeah, just introducing ourselves.

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I'm a film enthusiast from India.

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Yeah.

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And I'm Adam, the American film, Western film buff.

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And what movie are we talking about today?

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Today we are talking about this film called Angamadi Diaries made by Lijo Jose Pellisserie.

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And, you know, so this movie involves, you know, breaking the law and, you know, using

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money to circumnavigate the law and stuff like that.

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And, you know, I think we on Fear of Stars, we've already invested a lot of money in this

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podcast, right?

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We recorded a very fancy studio.

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We pay people to write our scripts.

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So none of this is made up on the spot where we're reading scripts right now that we outsource.

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So if there's any mistakes or anything, that's not our fault.

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We're just reading from the script that we're paying a lot of money for.

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So we made a lot of investments in that.

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And we've invested even further into the podcast to try to like live out real life experiences

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that match the themes of the movie, just to give you the listeners a peek.

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And so we can have firsthand experience into what we're talking about.

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So over the weekend, I was in a taxi going home from somewhere and got stopped by the

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police.

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And I just want to say this.

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It is as an American, the police are so less scary here.

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And I think that really shapes my perspective of things because I got to say, like, no matter

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what, I'm never afraid of the police killing me here or anyone in Thailand.

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The bar is so low, isn't it, when you're American?

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But for real, because even in America, like in Thailand again, so let me describe, there's

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like a police stop.

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Like you're driving up and you see the police stop.

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In America, the cops are hidden and sneak up behind you and turn on lights really quick

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and stuff.

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They're never something you can see ahead.

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In Thailand, when you're driving on the road and you see a police stop coming up, you see

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people just like turn around and stuff and like go against traffic or drive on the sidewalk

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and stuff.

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Like they're they are too lazy to like sneak up on you or constantly surprise you and stuff.

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I do appreciate that.

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And I'm never afraid of them using violence.

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Like period.

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I don't know.

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I think differently.

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I still think that their intimidation tactics get to me.

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Now, Thai police.

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I have some level of comfort in Thailand with the police because you can just kind of pay

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them off, which you cannot do in the States.

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And I think that's that that is what causes fear.

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Like well, and the violence.

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Like again, we are very at least I am very a cap in this group.

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I don't think police are good anywhere.

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I think the jobs are bad.

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I don't think they should exist.

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I don't think their position of power is like beneficial to anyone.

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But in America, I've had a few police encounters and it's scary because like, you know, they

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have guns and like they, you know, like we've seen enough videos and stuff of what they

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do.

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Like they can be very violent or, you know, you can get caught up in the system.

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So like I am petrified of American police.

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I'm not so much of police in Thailand, which is probably a problem as well.

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That like I'm not as scared just because I'm like, I don't think they're going to kill

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me, which is like the bar I have.

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Like they're not going to.

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Yeah, they're not going to murder me.

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So anyways, we had pulled over at a taxi stop.

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I'm coming home.

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It was like four in the morning or something.

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I think it was like five in the morning.

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And yeah, maybe it was five.

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think that they found contraband and did make me again.

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So there's a police stop.

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They pull over, the taxi pulls over and they make me get out and they like pat me down

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and everything, which I've had before in Thailand.

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Like I've had police stop me and like look through all my wallets and like all my pockets

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and stuff.

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It's not the first time it's happened.

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I never like usually have anything on me or anything.

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I'm pretty like, you know, and this time did you know, according to official record, no.

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So but they thought they found something.

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And so they put me in like a truck.

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There's no handcuffs.

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I'm not getting arrested.

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Again, in America, you get handcuffs on.

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Oh, I didn't know they put you in.

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You say you sat in a police truck to the station.

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Well, there's just a truck with like boxes next to me and stuff.

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They all hopped in where you like read your Miranda, right?

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So so so OK, so I get the taxi and they pat me down and they tell the taxi to keep driving.

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And because sometimes like they let the taxis go.

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Like honestly, I was kind of surprised they pulled the taxi over and they made us like

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get out and stuff.

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They tell the taxi to go, so I'm with them and they're like, look, you know, we found

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you with this.

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And I'm like, OK.

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And they're like, we're going to take you to the station.

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All right.

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I'm just like nodding along because correct.

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I don't think they're going to like they're not putting me in handcuffs.

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And I don't know what the protocol is necessarily.

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Like I don't know if I'm supposed to talk to them on the street and try to bribe them

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or wait till they go to the police station.

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So I'm just like nodding along because what else am I supposed to do if I freaked out?

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That doesn't that's weird.

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This is, you know, like, OK, this is a situation.

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Fine.

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So they tell me to get in the truck.

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All these other policemen hop in the truck with me.

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We go to the police station.

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And so I'm sitting in the big room, you know, and then they had like the the height thing,

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you know, that you see in like prison photos, like mug shots, you know what I mean?

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So I had to and it was just right behind me in this kind of nice office.

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So I just had to like take kind of mug shots.

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You should go back to the police station and just ask them to send it to you on WhatsApp

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or something.

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It should.

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Yeah, that would be a contender photo.

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Special memories in their photo.

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It has my name and all my I should put on my LinkedIn profile.

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It has my info in it.

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And then and then they're like, hey, you're going to go to the jail for two days.

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And I'm like, OK, fine, let's do it.

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And because again, I'm not scared and there's not a second I think that I'm actually going

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to go to jail at all.

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I just I'm not handcuffed.

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It's a bunch of dudes like if this was America, I would be like pissing myself, honestly,

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like I would like I'd be like I lost everything.

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But I'm not afraid of them.

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And they're being they're not mean.

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Yeah, they're smug and stuff.

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But like so was I because I'm just not I don't think anything can happen.

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But I'm waiting for them to be like, let's just pay money and skip this whole thing.

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And you didn't you didn't offer it to them.

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I think that's what they were waiting for.

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So they basically cannot be the one to imply it.

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And I was already pushing him.

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I was like, so is there any other options, anything else that we can do?

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And he's like, oh, well, what are you suggesting?

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They cannot be the one to say it, but they're just kind of waiting for you to offer it.

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OK, now this is this is my problem.

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In other times, the police has always offered it in Thailand, like for traffic stops, every

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single traffic stop, the police has been like, just pay me now and we can skip this.

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And I've always just been an asshole and fought it and gotten a real ticket and paid way less

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than whatever bribe they were demanding.

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But they were always demanding the bribe.

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And so I never knew that I was supposed to say it.

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And the other thing is, I'm in like a room with all these policemen.

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One of them was asleep.

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Yeah.

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You look around here just so I'm super late.

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But like, I don't know if I'm supposed to say it to one cop or like if they're all in

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here and then like they're going to get mad at me for bringing it up.

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So that was the other thing.

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Like I wasn't alone with someone.

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They didn't pull me out.

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There's like cameras everywhere.

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They made me take my phone, put on the table.

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I couldn't touch my phone.

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And so I was like, am I supposed to bring it up here?

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Like, because there's a bunch of other policemen here.

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So I didn't know what to do.

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And then they kept saying, like, do you know anyone that can come here?

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I'm like.

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I'm like, look, you said you're going to put me in jail, just put me in jail.

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I was arguing with them.

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I was just like, just lock me up.

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Just do it.

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Like it's five in the morning.

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What am I going to call?

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Just put me in jail.

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So much attitude.

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The first thing the police said to us was just like, look at him.

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He doesn't care.

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He's so chill.

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Like, yeah, he was like your friend.

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He's so chill.

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Like he obviously doesn't mind.

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And then our friend.

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So it was me and another friend.

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We'll call him.

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Let me bring in how you came in.

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OK, OK.

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So they they were like, hey, bring someone.

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And I was like, why?

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If you're going to put me in jail, why does someone need to come?

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And they're like, just call someone.

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I'm like, no, like put me in jail now.

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And they're like, you need to call someone.

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So I'm like, fine.

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And I did not know who to call.

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So I called Winnie because she's smart and was awake at the time.

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And there's a few people I knew who are awake at like five in the morning.

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And I called her and sure enough, she answers right away.

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And she's like, hey, what's up?

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And I'm like, hey, I'm at the police station.

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Can you like come and save me?

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And you were like, oh, yeah, sure.

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OK, like which one?

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Pretty chipper about it.

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And I'm like, OK, I'm at this one.

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You're like, OK, all right, see you in a second.

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You came really fast, by the way, too.

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Yeah, I was in semi shock.

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But I was like, all right, I'll go to the police station.

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I'll just do this.

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I didn't really think it through like one step at a time.

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But the moment I told everyone what was going on, it was just like chaos around me.

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Chaos erupts.

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And everyone's just like, what?

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Like what happened to Adam?

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And everyone's like freaking out.

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So what happened on that end?

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Yeah, because I don't know.

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I was alone in a very cold police station freezing.

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What was going on?

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Yeah, I think I was just confused.

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But like nobody was really in the state to go and help.

250
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You know, like we just had a house.

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So it was like Nicky's and Keeley's birthday party.

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We had like a little house party.

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First of all, the party just died down.

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Like it just completely shut down.

255
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We were just everyone was just worried about Adam's well-being.

256
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Yeah, yeah.

257
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I didn't really have a plan.

258
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I didn't really have a plan or anything.

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And I was just like, one of our friends was just like, what are you going to do?

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Like, are you sure you want to go?

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I'm just like, I don't know.

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If your friend calls you from a police station, you go.

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Did you see the text I sent, by the way?

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No, I didn't.

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But then before I left, I was like, does anybody want to come?

266
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Like, don't feel obligated.

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But if somebody else wants to come, just come.

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And then we had one friend who was sober enough and was willing to come.

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And so the two of us went to the station.

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And no, I did not see your text until we were already out and released like two hours later.

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Because I was like, they weren't letting me touch my phone.

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And so I first secretly tried to text Nikki, like, I need a lawyer.

273
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Oh, yeah.

274
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I saw that message a little too late.

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I was like, not with my phone.

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Yeah.

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But basically, when me and this other friend walks in, we're trying to read the room.

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It's really unclear what's going on.

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But then we sit down and the police is just kind of like, well, your friend looks really

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chill.

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It's like, he doesn't mind being here.

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So I guess they told us like, he's going to go to jail for two days.

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And then they're going to send him to court, at which point he'll just be punishable by

284
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law, right?

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Whatever they decide to rule.

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And then at which point he might be extradited to the States and he would be blacklisted.

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So he won't be able to come on.

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There was a bit of like fear mongering going on.

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And I don't know.

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Like, I'm glad you called me.

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By the same time, when I'm listening to this, I'm just like, yeah, sure.

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Like rolling my eyes.

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Because I think I had the same attitude as you of like, come on, like, you're just going

294
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to take some money and then he'll be out of his way.

295
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The moment you arrested him is just like jackpot.

296
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We arrested this white foreigner, right?

297
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Yeah.

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Total jackpot.

299
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Because they just keep asking, what's your job?

300
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Where do you work?

301
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How long you been here?

302
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Like, they're just like casing me.

303
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Yeah.

304
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They started asking us as well.

305
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They were like, so were you guys together?

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Were you like, where were you before this?

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Are you friends?

308
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Do you know each other?

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Do you work together?

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Like there was a bit of interrogation towards us as well.

311
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And then at some point it just became clear what they're after.

312
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Yeah.

313
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So we were speaking in Thai and so Winnie and their friend is like, yo, sit up.

314
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Yeah.

315
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We literally had to talk.

316
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I was like, I slept in a chair.

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I'm freezing.

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And I was trying to sleep because again, I'm not afraid.

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Like I'm not going to go to jail.

320
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It's just like, how much is this going to damage me financially?

321
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Which again, is miles better than in America where I would kind of be afraid for my life

322
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or going to jail.

323
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But then you have to think about Thailand where there's so much respect in the culture

324
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and like, they just wanted to see you say sorry, wanted to see that you care, that you

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respect them.

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And the fact that you were doing all of the opposite, I think was also really pissing

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them off.

328
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It was stupid.

329
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And that's probably why they told you to call someone because they're like, yeah, we can't

330
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talk to this guy.

331
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And I don't know how to have approached that differently because like I can't fake, beg

332
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or cry, you know?

333
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I have a very hard time faking emotions.

334
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:44,620
And I already sound like sarcastic when I talk anyway, even if I'm being like sincere,

335
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you know what I mean?

336
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It's just like my bad monotone voice.

337
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So if I was like, hey, I'm really, really sorry.

338
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Like that's how it would have sounded like just now.

339
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I'm really sorry.

340
00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:59,460
It would have sounded completely fake or like, I don't know.

341
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Like I didn't know how, like I just wanted to be like, hey, just talk to me about like

342
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what we can do.

343
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And I didn't mean to be disrespectful, but like I wasn't going to fucking cry, you know?

344
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And if that's what they wanted, that's kind of sick.

345
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And I don't really like that.

346
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But better heads prevailed and they're like, sit up, take your glasses off.

347
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And Adam's like, it's prescription.

348
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We don't care, take it off.

349
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Yeah, I know these colored glasses look cool, but they're prescription.

350
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I'm wearing them like on purpose.

351
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I have to, I can't see.

352
00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:35,620
But then goes without saying, Adam sitting here talking on this podcast.

353
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So he is not in Thai jail.

354
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He's not in the Hilton.

355
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That's what they call the jail that they send foreigners out here in the Hilton.

356
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Yeah.

357
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It's like this overcrowded prison.

358
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I mean, at the end of the day, like, um, it sucks and police are bad and these guys suck

359
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and they're like robbing people.

360
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Yeah.

361
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And from an American perspective and Kelly, I want to, after this talk about like police

362
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in India, but because like at least like, yes, it's a huge hit financially.

363
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Obviously, like it is like a substantial amount.

364
00:16:11,980 --> 00:16:15,020
Um, and I'm lucky that like I had it at all.

365
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Like a lot of people probably want it.

366
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Um, and it sucks.

367
00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:22,060
It's like always sucks to like lose something, especially unexpectedly.

368
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And then you always go in your head, like, what could I have done differently?

369
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Or like, what's like, you know, maybe if I left five minutes later, earlier, did this

370
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one thing and all this stuff.

371
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And like that stuff sucks.

372
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I hate all that.

373
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But as bad as all that is coming from America, I'm not like afraid of like getting shot or

374
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also, you know, I hear stories in America where like a car gets towed and it costs six,

375
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700 bucks to get it back.

376
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And so when you put it in perspective of like that, you know, it's, it's nothing.

377
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And so that's why I like, I'm always kind of grateful for that because it's just so

378
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:59,860
much worse like in America and like, yeah, your cart and that's not getting your car

379
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towed.

380
00:17:00,860 --> 00:17:05,140
I mean, like you get a DUI and it's thousands of dollars and stuff and like your life gets

381
00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:10,700
ruined and like, um, as bad as the police are, like they, they're not going to shoot

382
00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:15,780
you and they are kind of nice the whole time and you just give them money.

383
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And I kind of, I prefer that system over, over what I'm used to.

384
00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:20,780
Yeah.

385
00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:25,340
I mean, it's the pros and cons of living in a country with a very weak rule of law and

386
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low police salaries.

387
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Kelly, what are your thoughts?

388
00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:36,260
I know that's why I'm asking about Indian police, man.

389
00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:37,260
Oh, okay.

390
00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:40,700
Um, that's our segue into this episode.

391
00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:41,700
Yeah.

392
00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:42,860
Oh yeah.

393
00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:48,820
So in India, like police is, um, yeah, people are afraid of police.

394
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Uh, they're scary and they have a lot of impunity to do anything they want to do.

395
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So that, that kind of put things in perspective, like it's not what they're doing, but it's

396
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like what kid they can do.

397
00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:04,860
That's the fear.

398
00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:05,860
Are they violent?

399
00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:06,860
They can be.

400
00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:10,940
I always see these portrayals of like Indian police on movies where they're just like hitting

401
00:18:10,940 --> 00:18:12,420
people with a huge baton.

402
00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:13,420
Yeah.

403
00:18:13,420 --> 00:18:14,420
And like endlessly.

404
00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:15,420
So it seems like they're quiet.

405
00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:16,420
Is that real?

406
00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:17,420
Yeah.

407
00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:18,420
I mean, that happens also.

408
00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:25,460
So the, the class cast, uh, thing plays into like whether you would be a victim of the

409
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police violence or not.

410
00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:35,900
For example, like if I am protesting, uh, like me being a university student, uh, and

411
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so it's happened in one of the states in India, uh, Gujarat, Ahmedabad.

412
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So there was one protest going on and we went to street protest thing and we got, uh, taken

413
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in, in the police custody.

414
00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,620
Uh, but it was handcuffed.

415
00:18:52,620 --> 00:18:58,020
No, no, no handcuffs, but the police grabbed me, the two police grabbed me and put it with

416
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myself.

417
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Were you scared?

418
00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:06,940
No, I wasn't scared because I know like, I, I, I don't, I, for the like section of society

419
00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:14,460
I'm coming from, this is not that much a skeleton that I will, I will be like tortured or something.

420
00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:15,980
I punished hard.

421
00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:23,340
But for the same level of, uh, protest, if it's happening in a different, like for Ahmedabad,

422
00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:27,020
it was like in the Muslim old Ahmedabad neighborhood.

423
00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:32,780
I mean, yeah, that was, that, that protest was also violent and the police was very violent

424
00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:35,180
already from the beginning.

425
00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:36,180
So yeah.

426
00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:41,420
So that happens like, depends on like which section you come from, like you might enjoy

427
00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:49,860
certain protectiveness, uh, certain protective, uh, shield based on your class position.

428
00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:53,860
Do the police like buy their positions like they do in Thailand?

429
00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:58,660
Buy their position and like getting promotion promoted to, I think that goes on.

430
00:19:58,660 --> 00:19:59,660
Yeah.

431
00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:00,660
There is a lot of nexus.

432
00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:06,780
There are a lot of crony ship, like favorism and then also, uh, maybe there are bribes

433
00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:11,060
to get into the certain.

434
00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:21,020
But the, but the, the first few roots, uh, sorry, the first few state of the procedure

435
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:30,580
is kind of clear that you have to put, you have to write an exam and you have to pass

436
00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:35,820
the, all the tests and like the physical tests and everything that doesn't get bribe to,

437
00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:37,860
uh, I think.

438
00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:38,860
Yeah.

439
00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:43,540
Oh, but there is a chance that the question papers can get leaked.

440
00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:44,540
Yeah.

441
00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:49,420
I mean, in Thailand you buy your positions, like the, the promotions and stuff, they,

442
00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:50,620
they cost a lot of money.

443
00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:51,620
People will spend a lot of money.

444
00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:53,420
It's a big investment to get that.

445
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,460
I think that happens in India.

446
00:20:55,460 --> 00:21:00,300
Most of them, but not, uh, always probably bribes, nepotism.

447
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,300
Yeah.

448
00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:02,300
All of them.

449
00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:03,300
Cause yeah.

450
00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,260
In America, it's like actually one of the few very well paying jobs that doesn't need

451
00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:12,500
a big education, which is the draw, but that's the opposite of what happens in, in, um, like

452
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:19,260
a lot of the countries in Asia where the cop salaries are super low, which I think makes

453
00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:27,940
the bribes, you know, not necessary, but like the police have very, very, very low salaries.

454
00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:33,060
I remember in India, like in my state one, one time, like the state government made the

455
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rule of traffic, traffic fines that if you, if a traffic police is like finding someone

456
00:21:39,460 --> 00:21:43,300
for traffic, they will get a certain percentage of it.

457
00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,520
Oh shit.

458
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,940
And that was that horrible.

459
00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:47,860
No, that was, that was actually good.

460
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:49,460
So that they stopped taking bribes.

461
00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:50,460
Yeah.

462
00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:53,540
But then they just encourages them to like give as many traffic tickets as possible.

463
00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:54,540
Yeah.

464
00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:55,540
So then you be careful.

465
00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:56,540
They don't take traffic.

466
00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:57,540
Yeah.

467
00:21:57,540 --> 00:21:58,540
But then they find ways, man, that shit.

468
00:21:58,540 --> 00:21:59,540
You shouldn't.

469
00:21:59,540 --> 00:22:02,980
It's just like, I just said that just incentivizes like, cool.

470
00:22:02,980 --> 00:22:08,860
I'm glad no bribes, but just, I mean, again, any police means they're incentivized to just

471
00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:12,140
like be violent or, or like take money from people.

472
00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:17,220
But like, if you give them like percentage per ticket they give, they're going to give

473
00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:19,500
as many tickets as they can, you know?

474
00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:20,500
Yeah.

475
00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,940
But they cannot give you a ticket if you don't break any law.

476
00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:24,940
Just follow the law.

477
00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:25,940
Or they just throw a drug on the car.

478
00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:26,940
Because there is a huge problem.

479
00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:27,940
You're the police.

480
00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:31,100
There is a huge problem of drunk driving in India.

481
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,100
Everywhere.

482
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,100
Well, this has been a really long segue.

483
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,100
I need to talk about the movie.

484
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:35,100
Yeah.

485
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:36,100
But like, let's get into why.

486
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,100
We didn't even start in the first.

487
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:43,900
No, but like, let's, let's kind of segue into why police is relevant for this episode.

488
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:44,900
Okay.

489
00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:46,580
I just want to say one thing before we move on then.

490
00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:47,580
Okay.

491
00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:55,180
I do have one good Thai police story where one time one of my students was a policeman

492
00:22:55,180 --> 00:22:59,980
and he's like, Hey, come to the police station in Bangkok, like that main police station.

493
00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:05,660
And he's like, we can go shoot guns with like the, the, the main like forensics guy.

494
00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:07,500
And I'm like, yeah, all right.

495
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:11,100
So I go into the police station, like on a weekday, there's no sign in sheet.

496
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100
There's nothing.

497
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:15,740
They take me to this shooting range where they have all these guns laid out for me,

498
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:16,740
like unlimited bullets.

499
00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:17,740
It's like the matrix.

500
00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:20,220
When they go pick out all the weapons and stuff, they have all that.

501
00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:23,940
It's just me and like the police guy friend, this forensics guy, and they're just like

502
00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:28,140
hanging out with me, shooting guns at these targets all day, like teaching me like, like

503
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,140
how to shoot guns and stuff.

504
00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:30,140
It was a blast.

505
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:31,140
Literally.

506
00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:35,500
Then like I'm walking around the police station with a shotgun as like, we're like bringing

507
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,860
all the guns back up like a fully loaded shotgun.

508
00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:43,340
Police are just waving to me like, Hey, white dude that we've never seen before, like holding

509
00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:44,340
a shotgun.

510
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,380
Like, again, I've not signed in.

511
00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:48,000
No one knows who I am.

512
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
No ID.

513
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000
And I'm just walking around with a shotgun.

514
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,900
And then I'm just like eat dinner with the police and drink whiskey with them all night

515
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:54,900
and stuff.

516
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:55,900
And that was like a blast.

517
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:58,500
I'm going to call that white privilege in Thailand.

518
00:23:58,500 --> 00:23:59,500
100%.

519
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:04,500
I mean, obviously I was walking around the police station with a gun, but so that's,

520
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,580
that's my pro police story.

521
00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:08,940
So but otherwise, dad, too.

522
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,260
I have a pretty good story of police in the States as well.

523
00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,260
Do it, do it, do it.

524
00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:15,300
No, I was on my way.

525
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:18,100
I was in the car driving to my driving test actually.

526
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:19,100
Yeah.

527
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,780
So I had to go to a town one hour away and I got pulled over for speeding on the highway

528
00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:24,100
on my way to my driver's test.

529
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:25,460
So you're on like a permit?

530
00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:26,700
Yeah, I'm on a permit.

531
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:28,860
I have a friend who has a license, so it's legal.

532
00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:30,860
I'm not breaking any laws by driving.

533
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,740
No illegal activity up there.

534
00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:35,340
Except except for going beyond the speed limit.

535
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:38,020
And he pulled me over and I'm like, oh my gosh, like we're both brown.

536
00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:39,020
He's Puerto Rican.

537
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:40,020
I'm brown.

538
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,100
And it's just like this is not going to go well with Trump era as well.

539
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,940
And it's just like white guy in his 40s, 50s.

540
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:47,820
And he was like, oh, you're beyond the speed limit.

541
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:48,820
Were you often?

542
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:51,540
I was like, yeah, I have a driving test, you know, so I'm just a bit late trying to get

543
00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:52,540
there.

544
00:24:52,540 --> 00:24:55,980
I was going to be a ticket, which means I would not be able to get my take a test again

545
00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:57,640
for like, I think, another year.

546
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,220
If you get pulled over when you're a permit, that gives you like kind of a blacklist for

547
00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:02,220
a while.

548
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,420
Instead, he's just like, well, I don't want to be passing your test if you do this.

549
00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:09,580
Like, you know, just be calm, take your time, you know, like don't try to go in the speed

550
00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:11,220
limit and good luck with your test.

551
00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:12,700
And then he just like walks away.

552
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:16,900
And I'm like, oh, this is a very positive experience from policemen who didn't use violence

553
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:17,900
or force.

554
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:19,500
He was white, white as could be.

555
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,460
And I was in a very suburban, suburban area of upstate New York.

556
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:26,260
That's another win for white policemen in America.

557
00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:28,580
Yeah, always doing good.

558
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:30,740
So just to show that they're good pigs as well.

559
00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:32,620
They're still pigs, but there's some good ones.

560
00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:33,620
That's nice.

561
00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:34,620
All right.

562
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:35,620
Well, that's a good story.

563
00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:36,620
So Nikki, let's segue.

564
00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:39,620
Why is this thematically related to the movie we're about to watch?

565
00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:43,380
The first question I want to ask is, Q, you're a bit in the gang.

566
00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:44,380
No.

567
00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:47,380
Well, yeah, well, this movie is about gangs.

568
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:51,380
He's going to say yes.

569
00:25:51,380 --> 00:25:53,380
I could have been like, did you want to?

570
00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:54,380
No, no, no, no.

571
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:58,380
What were you ever offered to be in a gang?

572
00:25:58,380 --> 00:25:59,380
No, no, no, no.

573
00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:00,380
I do.

574
00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:04,820
I don't think I'm I look dependable for a gang other than like doing their accounts

575
00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:05,820
or something.

576
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:06,820
The call center.

577
00:26:06,820 --> 00:26:07,820
You're good with numbers.

578
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:08,820
Can you help us like doing the deal?

579
00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:09,820
I would be happy.

580
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:10,820
I would actually happily do that.

581
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:11,820
I love to do the accounts for a gang.

582
00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:12,820
Yeah.

583
00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:13,820
OK, so they need accountants.

584
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:14,820
They do all that money.

585
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:15,820
But you're good with numbers.

586
00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:16,820
I'm good with numbers.

587
00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:17,820
I'm good with numbers.

588
00:26:17,820 --> 00:26:18,820
I'm good with numbers.

589
00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:19,820
I'm good with numbers.

590
00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:20,820
I'm good with numbers.

591
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:21,820
I'm good with numbers.

592
00:26:21,820 --> 00:26:22,820
I'm good with numbers.

593
00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,140
You're good with numbers and accounting.

594
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,460
I never learned accountancy, but I'm good with numbers.

595
00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:32,020
I mean, I've worked in finance operations and stuff.

596
00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:34,340
OK, so I know stuff.

597
00:26:34,340 --> 00:26:37,700
Any gangs are hiring an accountant or finance assistant.

598
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:38,700
He's here.

599
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,020
He's really good at laundering money.

600
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:47,220
The reason I ask is because I thought it was funny when we were trying to find files to

601
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,220
download.

602
00:26:48,220 --> 00:26:49,220
You're like Indians are good hackers.

603
00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:53,140
I thought you might be part of a call center scam.

604
00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:55,700
I'm just kidding, buddy.

605
00:26:55,700 --> 00:27:08,740
But Angamali Diaries is basically a coming of age story with gangs, Indian gangs.

606
00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:14,460
The first thing I noticed is it feels very, to me anyway, that it's a very Italian gang

607
00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:17,700
movie kind of thing.

608
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,900
But what I loved about it was the lower scale of it.

609
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:25,220
Yeah, it's like competing food stalls, basically.

610
00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:32,660
The Indian ones like Vegas or the whole wine industry or whatever, big family brawls.

611
00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:37,660
This is literally wholesale pig slaughtering.

612
00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:39,700
Not to skip over, but I like the small scale of it.

613
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:40,700
That was fun.

614
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:50,980
Also at one point they settle down with money, but it's just like vengeance for another mindless

615
00:27:50,980 --> 00:27:54,020
murder that caused all the...

616
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:59,500
That kind of took the commotion to the next level because it was kind of settled with

617
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:05,380
money and the way they were throwing local bombs, it was like, oh, that kind of is very

618
00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:06,380
familiar.

619
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:07,380
Familiar?

620
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:08,380
Yeah.

621
00:28:08,380 --> 00:28:10,980
Did you make local bombs?

622
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,460
No, no, no, no.

623
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:16,980
That's how it used to be in my town when we were kids.

624
00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:19,580
It can happen sometime, but it's rare.

625
00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:21,860
It's not like every day going on.

626
00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:25,700
You remember the guy that threw the bomb to the meat shop?

627
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:26,980
Yeah, that kind of scene.

628
00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:27,980
What do you mean?

629
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:30,020
So people were throwing bombs in your town?

630
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:31,020
Yeah.

631
00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:33,340
I mean, there is a fight going on.

632
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:39,060
We know this area is belonging by some underworld people.

633
00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,060
That can have...

634
00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:41,060
So people threw bombs?

635
00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:43,260
You've seen that with your eyes before in real life?

636
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:45,260
I could hear bombs at the...

637
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:46,260
Really?

638
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:54,140
So it usually used to happen after a burglary or a murder that when they run away after murdering

639
00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:57,140
someone they throw bombs so that no one chases them.

640
00:28:57,140 --> 00:28:58,620
So that used to happen a lot.

641
00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:00,020
Like the smoke bombs that ninjas throw?

642
00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:01,020
No, no, no.

643
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:04,420
They're bombs that can kill people so you just stay the fuck off.

644
00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:06,460
Don't chase us.

645
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:11,500
So yeah, I guess now that you're recounting a personal experience, I guess that's one

646
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:16,860
thing that the movie is quite good at is nailing something authentic.

647
00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:18,740
It's very gritty, very realistic.

648
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,740
It's very realistic.

649
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:20,740
I love that.

650
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:21,740
It's not a Bollywood movie, right?

651
00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:23,740
Per se, it just doesn't follow any of those tropes.

652
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:26,060
It's a Malay film industry.

653
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:29,140
This is the first Malay film that we've watched, right?

654
00:29:29,140 --> 00:29:30,140
Yeah, Malaywood.

655
00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:32,740
Yes, that's what The Economist calls it.

656
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:33,740
Kelly's right.

657
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:35,740
They talk so fast in this.

658
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:36,740
Oh, the subtitles.

659
00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:37,740
We had to speed read.

660
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:43,020
We had to read a lot just to get through the story.

661
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,020
They speak a lot.

662
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:49,380
So there's like a flow of information per second is like super high.

663
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:55,300
The subtitles are like this huge and just not even staying for long enough to be able

664
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:56,580
to read properly.

665
00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:00,580
So now I guess I can read English faster than before.

666
00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:04,460
But previously it was an issue for me because I'm not understanding the Malay language or

667
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:06,460
Tamil language per se.

668
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:08,900
But also English is my second language.

669
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:10,660
I'm looking at the subtitles in English.

670
00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:12,580
So it was pretty difficult for me.

671
00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:14,580
I had to pause and go back.

672
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:15,780
Oh, what did they say?

673
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:16,780
What did they say?

674
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:19,220
Yeah, I had to do that before.

675
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:22,180
It is like Italians that they just speak so fast.

676
00:30:22,180 --> 00:30:24,660
They're just like rapid fire.

677
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:26,980
Like just super fast talkers.

678
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:34,380
And like the whole town just like yells nonstop and talks super fast.

679
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:36,860
So this is completely different from Hindi, right?

680
00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:40,780
Yeah, it's a different language family.

681
00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:45,380
It's not Indo-Aryan language family.

682
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:46,980
Like you wouldn't understand each other.

683
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:48,420
It's not Indo-European language family.

684
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:51,780
It's from the Dariyan language family.

685
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:56,540
So the other thing quickly about the region, which I don't know if tell me if this is specific

686
00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:57,540
to them or not.

687
00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:01,020
But what do you call like the wraps they wear around their waist?

688
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:02,020
The men?

689
00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:03,020
Oh, that looks so uncomfortable.

690
00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:04,020
What's it called?

691
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:05,020
It's in Hindi.

692
00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:08,020
It's called or Bengal is called dhoti.

693
00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:12,100
Let me see like what the Malay is called.

694
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:15,700
There was a scene where he's like chasing after someone and it just keeps falling off

695
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,260
and he's like trying to hold it in.

696
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:19,260
And then he just slips.

697
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:20,260
Vesti.

698
00:31:20,260 --> 00:31:22,740
So they call it Vesti and then.

699
00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:23,740
Yeah.

700
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:24,740
So.

701
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:25,740
I'm sorry.

702
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:26,740
Mundu.

703
00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:27,740
Sorry.

704
00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:29,860
Cut the Vesti part.

705
00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:31,900
It's called the Mundu.

706
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,460
So yeah.

707
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:42,180
So I had Malay friends and I think it's like a change of posture or change of any situation.

708
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,180
It's like a thing.

709
00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:48,980
They kind of either put it down or they just wrap it back.

710
00:31:48,980 --> 00:31:49,980
So it's a wrap that they have.

711
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:55,980
They have around their waist like a like a like a saran.

712
00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:56,980
Not so.

713
00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:57,980
Salong.

714
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:58,980
So long.

715
00:31:58,980 --> 00:31:59,980
So long.

716
00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:00,980
Yeah.

717
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:04,620
It's like the plastic stuff you put over food.

718
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,300
But they put these wraps around their waist.

719
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:10,020
The men and like and they can fold it up or they can like let it drop.

720
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,140
But they're constantly adjusting it.

721
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:13,140
Yeah.

722
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,140
Throughout like when they're talking or walking.

723
00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:15,140
Yeah.

724
00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:16,140
It's like two stage.

725
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:20,900
When it's like totally like what do you call?

726
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:21,900
Draped.

727
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,740
So it's still your ankle length.

728
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:27,260
And then they just cover it like half.

729
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:30,220
Like it made it make it half and then put it back.

730
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:32,020
And then that's a short then.

731
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,020
So this is two states of wearing it.

732
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,140
And they keep on changing it.

733
00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:37,140
Yeah.

734
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:42,140
I I never actually asked my Malay friends that why they do that all the time.

735
00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:44,660
But I just got used to looking at them like.

736
00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:47,740
So let's say they're sitting they usually put it down.

737
00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:51,380
And then when they stand up and start walking faster they they put it.

738
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:55,940
I think when they need to walk faster it's like they pull it back.

739
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:56,940
Make it shorter.

740
00:32:56,940 --> 00:32:58,300
And when their sleeves up.

741
00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:59,300
Yeah.

742
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,140
And then when they have to like you're sitting down chilling or something they put it put

743
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:04,140
the drip down.

744
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:07,700
That is like it's because I think the movement will be easier if it's shorter.

745
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,500
But it's like if someone like had their sleeve and just was rolling it up and down all like

746
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,220
all the time when you were talking to them.

747
00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:14,420
It was really interesting.

748
00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:18,020
I had never seen like some like it transformed so much and stuff.

749
00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:19,020
Yeah.

750
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,420
I think it was giving the vibe of energy that they're like restless young people.

751
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:24,100
I think it was adding to that vibe.

752
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,100
Yeah.

753
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:28,580
So another thing I wanted to point out is that like what made it so interesting is that

754
00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:33,100
it's not just like I would say it's not just like a gang movie of sorts.

755
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,460
It's more like a way of life.

756
00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:36,460
Right.

757
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:41,260
It takes place in Angamaly which is in near Kerala.

758
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:42,260
It's in Kerala.

759
00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:45,020
Kerala is a small town in Kerala.

760
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:46,020
Kerala is South India.

761
00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:47,580
Kerala is a state of South South India.

762
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,180
The language is Malayalam.

763
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:52,900
The people are called Malayali and this town is called Angamaly.

764
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,700
Is it near the beach or anything?

765
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:55,700
Yeah.

766
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,100
It has a huge coastal region like southwest.

767
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
Yeah.

768
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,100
Yeah.

769
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:03,820
Because it's like it shows like the way of life for these people like how they live their

770
00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:04,820
lives.

771
00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:12,060
So what what what makes it so special I think is that I think all the actors are like newcomers

772
00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:16,860
like they're very like unknown unknown actors.

773
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:21,100
There's so many people in in the movie and we're gonna get into that a little later with

774
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:25,660
the the climax of the scene which was fantastic by the way.

775
00:34:25,660 --> 00:34:26,660
It's amazing.

776
00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:28,020
Very good.

777
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:33,460
How like one one full take I think that is like the best part of the movie.

778
00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:36,020
Yeah one 11 minute one shot.

779
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,500
With so many people around in such a crowded environment.

780
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:39,980
There's a fucking procession going on.

781
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:40,980
Yeah.

782
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:41,980
It's so good.

783
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:42,980
Yeah.

784
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:47,780
So I guess you know it's it stars like this character named Vincent Pepe.

785
00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:48,780
Yeah Pepe.

786
00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:49,780
Right.

787
00:34:49,780 --> 00:34:50,780
Pepe.

788
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:51,780
So it stars a frog.

789
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:55,020
Stars the frog our meme our meme lord.

790
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:57,700
Who looks like Jesus?

791
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:58,700
Who is like Jesus?

792
00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:59,700
Who looks like Jesus?

793
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:04,660
But like we come to learn from you know we come to learn that he's part of this gang.

794
00:35:04,660 --> 00:35:05,660
They like to start fights.

795
00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:09,220
Yeah he's always going up to people and saying you mad and then like fight start.

796
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,220
Fight start.

797
00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:11,220
You mad.

798
00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:12,220
Yeah.

799
00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:15,660
But then we learn that like you know he was always inspired when he was young.

800
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:16,780
He was like a kid.

801
00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:17,780
He was trying to build his own.

802
00:35:17,780 --> 00:35:19,980
I think in the movie they call it teams right.

803
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:20,980
Yeah.

804
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:23,820
Building teams and then he looked up to this guy named Babuji.

805
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:24,820
Babuji yeah.

806
00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:27,820
And what's he like Thomas Cheta.

807
00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:32,980
Thomas Cheta I think was like a associate of Babuji.

808
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:33,980
Yeah.

809
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,340
So he was trying to build up his own group and then we throughout the movie we learn how

810
00:35:37,340 --> 00:35:40,260
like you know they how these boys it's like a standby.

811
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:42,780
I think of standby me they like think of things.

812
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:43,780
Yeah.

813
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:48,620
They go through they go through things like they go they're checking girls out going to

814
00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:56,180
like adult theaters or like you know partaking in sports or like you know learning their

815
00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,940
first fight you know punching the guy.

816
00:35:58,940 --> 00:35:59,940
Yeah how to.

817
00:35:59,940 --> 00:36:00,940
How to punch a guy.

818
00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:05,340
How to not punch the guy that you were talking to punch the next guy.

819
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:06,340
Punch the next guy.

820
00:36:06,340 --> 00:36:07,340
Yeah.

821
00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:08,340
It's all that.

822
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:09,340
We get to see all that.

823
00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:16,420
And yeah so he gets into they get into they're in this gang and they start they start like

824
00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:17,980
being territorial I guess.

825
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:20,540
No so I like how they started the first fight.

826
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:25,740
The first fight was against like harassment of a girl.

827
00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:30,540
So they go like they're the hero they're going to revenge the girl and starts fighting and

828
00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:35,680
then ends up getting beaten up by the bigger gang that was in the in the camp the college

829
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,940
campus anyway.

830
00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:41,260
And really quick their fighting strategy was awesome.

831
00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:42,780
Yeah you remember like how to.

832
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:47,100
So if you're going to they were like having a flashback so they're about to have the fight

833
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,700
they're like looking at each other in the standoff and they have a flashback to like

834
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:53,860
when this guy was telling him how to fight if you're like in the standoff and what you're

835
00:36:53,860 --> 00:37:00,040
supposed to do is you punch the guy next to the guy that you're fighting with.

836
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,540
So you do a surprise hit to the guy next to him so that guy falls down and everyone's

837
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:08,940
confused and the guy that you're supposed to hit is like looking down at this guy that's

838
00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:12,460
falling like wasn't he supposed to hit me and then you punch as hard as you can at that

839
00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:16,180
guy because he's not expecting it and that's like the best two shots you're going to get

840
00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:22,180
in the fight before it breaks out and that's pretty genius.

841
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:29,420
And I think things I think things start coming to turn things start to get really serious

842
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:36,300
right when we're introduced to two I wouldn't say antagonist but like it's just like Babuji

843
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:42,300
like the gang leader that these guys used to look up to he gets he gets fatally wounded

844
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,220
by these two people named Rajan and.

845
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:47,220
Rajiv.

846
00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:50,580
Oh great I'm gonna fuck this up.

847
00:37:50,580 --> 00:37:54,580
We can cut this out wait one second.

848
00:37:54,580 --> 00:37:56,060
I think it's both ours.

849
00:37:56,060 --> 00:38:00,900
So by the way so before that was the little cute montage right of the girl of the girl

850
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:06,860
first love yes Seema Seema it was Seema and that's the one thing that the team couldn't

851
00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:09,420
really agree on because they all had a crush on her.

852
00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:16,460
I think Seema was the girl who he was dating who got harassed and whom he was dating right

853
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:22,660
yeah that was his first love and like it's not the reason why we say it's not like a

854
00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:26,100
Bollywood film is there's no large musical numbers or anything but they still do have

855
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:30,740
musical montages so like a song will play and they'll have like they did have like the

856
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:35,820
love song it's just not the character singing it but really really sweet music like I really

857
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:40,340
enjoyed the music a lot and they had a really beautiful montage of them like getting to

858
00:38:40,340 --> 00:38:44,760
know each other and fall in love and like sneak kisses and you know they're sneaking

859
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,500
into each other's rooms at night and stuff and that stuff I like always find really romantic

860
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,860
and I've always been like really curious like when you live with your parents and stuff

861
00:38:53,860 --> 00:39:00,140
like how you do manage to like sneak in and like you know see each other and stuff when

862
00:39:00,140 --> 00:39:03,820
like you're living at your family's houses like I don't know how people pull that off

863
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:06,620
you know remember one of the older films we watched I can't remember the name they just

864
00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:10,900
went to a park with a mattress so it's nice to know that some people just do it at home

865
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:18,180
like regular people what's that girl walking down the street with a mattress really heavy

866
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,740
I don't know how people pull it off and like but it's cute when you know when you're sneaking

867
00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:25,620
glances on the bus and stuff like that stuff they captured the puppy love really well that's

868
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:30,220
that's life man that's life in India but there was so much build up to that love story and

869
00:39:30,220 --> 00:39:34,900
then I think in just one line she disappears and like she yeah supposedly went to Singapore

870
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:40,620
you never see her again the love story doesn't build up nothing I was telling mentioning

871
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:46,260
it to Winnie that these films like films from Malayalam film industry like this kind of

872
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:50,940
like rowdy gang films or like where there are a lot of actions even even this particular

873
00:39:50,940 --> 00:40:01,220
director his films feels very male centric they're like all mostly important characters

874
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:09,980
are men all the time and and very macho very like you know like it shows a certain type

875
00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:16,460
of patriarchal society in its truest sense kinda but one thing I really like that he's

876
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:26,220
very true in portraying that that that that world and and if the women women are not women

877
00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:33,100
there I feel like they're way more strong women characters in these films but they don't

878
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:38,860
have the how do I put it it's not from their point of view the point of view still stays

879
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:45,060
with the men but there are strong female characters present yeah no it's a very male centric film

880
00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:48,700
I think like kind of like Tarantino films you know it's like made by men kind of like

881
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:53,300
primarily for men but then at the same time I think like how it differs from many of other

882
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:58,980
films we watched most of the women still kind of had strong characters to some degree and

883
00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:02,420
you also you see toxic masculinity in the sense that they're very violent they were

884
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:06,820
there in a gang right but then you don't really see that toxic masculinity translate towards

885
00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:11,100
other women as much like he has his respect so I don't want to like fast forward too much

886
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:15,260
but like when he kind of is caught he tells his girlfriend at the time to leave him to

887
00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:18,980
go towards her future you don't see that kind of like toxic lover he's like no stay with

888
00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:25,060
me and then his love interest in the future is also a doctor and older yeah and older

889
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:32,540
headstrong and she was actually his friend's sister yeah so she's an older woman yeah and

890
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:38,940
like I think this it shows toxic masculinity but it doesn't glorify it no it does not yeah

891
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:44,020
you see the consequences they look like idiots and and you constantly see how their toxic

892
00:41:44,020 --> 00:41:49,200
masculinity ruins their lives and their businesses and their relationships like it never glorifies

893
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,020
it and the women always come off as like smarter or like saints for putting up with any of

894
00:41:56,020 --> 00:42:00,860
this shit you know it does like the Tarantino stuff sometimes glorifies I think the toxic

895
00:42:00,860 --> 00:42:06,940
masculinity but this film never praises them for what they're doing no it's just it's just

896
00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:12,460
very realistic yeah just throwing the reality but the yeah but the perspective at least

897
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:16,740
isn't it's condemning I think like I would call it a male-centric film I wouldn't call

898
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:20,780
it a misogynistic film I think you can call a lot of Bollywood films that yeah that's

899
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:24,580
still more positive and the women had a lot of agency like because they made moves on

900
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:28,820
the men the the the the way he ultimately falls in love with like what made the move

901
00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:34,220
on him like I they have a lot of agency apart from the apart from the what is Saki the second

902
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:38,860
woman both of them kind of made a move on him right like when he was like beaten up

903
00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:43,960
in the hospital the first girlfriend makes a move on him and then the last girlfriend

904
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,060
also like when he was dropping off her in her his own house to stay the night this is

905
00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:55,140
my one issue actually to be honest how the fuck were so many women into him come on he

906
00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:01,820
looks like Zac Efron that was that was Nikki's take is that why is that it is just he looks

907
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:09,220
like that too so he's cute yeah okay because like later when he is like a fucking murderer

908
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:13,820
and they're like yeah I still love you I'm like this is crazy how much he's cleaning

909
00:43:13,820 --> 00:43:19,740
up like he murders like he's violent and everything but he he talks very softly right he's very

910
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:26,980
like he has a sensitive sensitive aura around him and he's cute guy so yeah women are and

911
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:33,940
also like very masculine and then like strong and soft like they kind of made him like that

912
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:36,860
right yeah that's why even though he's he does all stupid things you're still kind of

913
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:40,860
rooting for him because he never intended to hurt anyone yeah right he's like just a

914
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:46,380
nice guy who was kind of wrapped up in his life and cute and pox he's just like nice

915
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:51,140
he slaughters pigs in the daytime kills humans at night but I'm just the whole movie is like

916
00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:55,380
women throwing themselves at him and like holy shit like what is this I don't know like

917
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:59,340
okay maybe I guess you don't see them with you don't see the other guys cleaning up like

918
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:06,300
he does yeah okay he looks like Zac Efron all right that explains it thanks Vincent

919
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:10,820
Pepe our lord and savior yeah and he's named Vincent Pepe come on that's true he kept being

920
00:44:10,820 --> 00:44:18,620
like you mad you good Pepe is from Jesus father that's what he said oh yeah yeah so that's

921
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:23,500
another thing we can have like it's like they're from a Christian family Catholic they're all

922
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:30,460
Catholic the whole town is Catholic so so the other two guys who kills Babuji they are

923
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:34,820
Hindus from the Hindu side I think they're called Rajan and Ravi Rajan and Ravi that's

924
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:40,340
it most probably they're there I mean great performances mentioned properly but most probably

925
00:44:40,340 --> 00:44:45,940
they're from the Hindus Hindu so it carol is a state where they have like a huge population

926
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:54,580
of Muslim Christians and Hindu like they're all almost I think equal numbers yeah so anyway

927
00:44:54,580 --> 00:45:02,220
so this is a this is a totally Catholic village sorry town and yeah so that the religious

928
00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:08,900
signatures religious signs are all it looked cool I love Christian Catholic imagery in movies

929
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:13,020
is fantastic you know like when you watch like the Romeo and Juliet the Baz Luhrmann

930
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:18,020
one you know and it's like full of that like rosary stuff like it looks beautiful in this

931
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:22,900
movie too like they have you know the crucifix and the big churches that they're inside and

932
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:29,180
like the the really cool like colonial churches they have in the town and stuff and like it

933
00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:34,260
just that imagery always looks so good on film it's like and John Woo uses it actually

934
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:39,100
a lot too I think but I like I like when South Indian films he uses like Malayalam films

935
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:46,580
uses the Christian imagery it's so they're so they're so deeply rooted in Malayalam culture

936
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:55,580
their their their forms and their things like it's very very interesting even even yeah

937
00:45:55,580 --> 00:46:01,600
he has made another film called rest in peace Ema you that is like a guy just trying to

938
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:07,300
bury his father the way he wanted so this is from the same director yeah so there's

939
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:10,540
another movie that you talked about where the whole movie is just about a bunch of guys

940
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:14,460
chasing a buffalo yeah and it's about burying the father this guy seems to have a lot of

941
00:46:14,460 --> 00:46:20,940
very interesting plot yeah and then the mood shifts very widely like the other film Ema

942
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:29,460
you is very somber film it's a very like melancholic like a gloomy town and this is like brightest

943
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:34,900
day and then like everyone is fighting like loud music loud noises and everything so yeah

944
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:40,260
so is this so yeah they fight non-stop the movie is just like they just are constant

945
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:45,700
like when they're kids and teenagers and adults everyone just fights all the time they eat

946
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:51,780
the fight oh the food should we get into that and then they eat they drink and they fight

947
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:56,820
yeah it's not even just like the food shots it's like they there's a scene they're talking

948
00:46:56,820 --> 00:47:02,500
about food they list like all the ingredients yeah he just loves food you can tell the director

949
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:07,180
is a big foodie and Kili mentioned that all his movies even though some of them are somber

950
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:12,540
some of them are bright they all have one common theme and that they feature food yeah

951
00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:17,980
I remember there was one dialogue like where they were trying to go for one catering service

952
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:25,260
for someone's wedding and the the girl uh his last love interest she was asking like

953
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:30,940
who eventually becomes his wife she was asking like oh do you have any vegetable dishes and

954
00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:37,980
the the caterer says like yeah I can put potato in the chicken curry or I can I can put tapioca

955
00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:45,540
in the pork gravy but yeah and she's like no only vegetables like like eggplants or

956
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:50,940
okra or something like that and he says like okay we can do it and then just he says to

957
00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:56,620
him like but who the fuck will eat this food in Angamaly like why are you making this food

958
00:47:56,620 --> 00:48:05,780
like no one even touch those foods so it's like um like they're very meat eating culture

959
00:48:05,780 --> 00:48:12,860
and they're always eating this amazing pork and beef and yeah pork and beef curry yeah

960
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:16,940
just the scene like that they're just mentioning like ingredients yeah how to make it it's

961
00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:23,180
just so fascinating like it's another like italian mob type movie thing where like you

962
00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:26,740
know they always have food in these italian movies too and stuff and like you see them

963
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:31,380
like cooking and stuff you shouldn't watch this movie on an empty stomach it's impossible

964
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:35,360
you'll stop we did it we tried if we would always stop the movie and get food and stuff

965
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:42,620
it's too good yeah and then uh that that uh well like there are so many montage you also

966
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:51,020
have to talk about the the sound of this film the drums how was there editing them on so

967
00:48:51,020 --> 00:48:56,620
i kind of found a flow in the film it's like okay lots of dialogue giving out a lot of

968
00:48:56,620 --> 00:49:02,940
information just people talking then stops then starts montages like a lot of visual

969
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:11,020
information one after another over a music number uh like a sound like a music number

970
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:18,780
and then again a fight and then again a food or food splittered like splintered all along

971
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:23,020
the way so it's like that kind of structure was repeating again and again and i loved

972
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:27,980
it yeah uh the the sound editing you're talking about there's this one song when i think then

973
00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:32,140
the flirting montage scene right yeah where they're like him and sema are like falling

974
00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:35,740
in love and he's like knocking on her door knocking on her door like three knocks that

975
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:41,020
they used yeah and then the knocks blend into the drums and so like the and so like you hear the

976
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:46,780
knocks is like part of the mix beat in like the the sound montage it's it's really cool and like

977
00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:53,340
yeah very like amazing the stylized and uh yeah incredible like uh like the sound they're using

978
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:59,100
different type of knocks like that happens in daily life as part of the music yeah so i don't

979
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:04,860
know if anyone has anyone seen baby driver yeah like that so my girlfriend did mention that she

980
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:09,420
it reminded her of baby driver because like things were going to the beat like things

981
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:13,340
the things the characters were doing were going to be to the music it's and there's so much

982
00:50:13,340 --> 00:50:20,140
happening with the cinematography oh it's it's amazing brilliant like it looks chaotic but to

983
00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:27,260
pull off that chaotic shot again and again and again and again that's like i find it a little

984
00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:30,620
bit weird in the beginning i think it took me a while to warm up to the movie because i think

985
00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:34,460
you have this opening scene where there's nothing really big happening but you have like this hidden

986
00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:39,260
this hitchcock sound effect where it just sounds like it's so suspenseful and scary it's just a

987
00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:44,460
regular scene you know building up towards like nothing but then like as the movie progresses you

988
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:49,260
kind of get used to it i think i think yeah that's that's what they were uh doing i think they were

989
00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:57,260
like getting us used to the world of like that can happen like think and go like instantly things

990
00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:02,940
can go bad yeah instantly and we have to be okay with it because that's the one every doesn't make

991
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:08,700
like it it's not like a huge plot point in the film but that can happen anytime like you can

992
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:15,420
you can just a guy can just out of like a like verbal altercation can throw a fucking bomb and

993
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:21,260
you can fucking throw a bomb and then someone dies unnecessarily one of the major fights in the movie

994
00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:28,860
happens because at a restaurant some guys at the table ordered the last dish of rabbit yeah yeah

995
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:36,220
and then the other table came and wanted it and they already gave the last dish away so then

996
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:42,220
a huge brawl ensues and like it's one of the major reasons of like why the gangs turn on each other

997
00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:46,700
in the end was because of that fucking rabbit dish like we don't need to fight about this like

998
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:54,860
these guys are insane yeah so also like then the main reason behind all these fights and all these

999
00:51:54,860 --> 00:52:01,020
actions is again a food dish here and that's true i mean maybe the rabbit dish is worth that but i

1000
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:05,580
don't know it's pretty central too because they open up a whole pork business and that's also

1001
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:11,020
what kind of starts the relationship that they have with the antagonists yeah who then kind of

1002
00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:15,260
almost become like the protagonist in a way because he ends up trying to later on they become the

1003
00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:21,980
friends yeah exactly and they try to mediate between uh yeah so yeah niki i was just gonna

1004
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:27,260
say like so yeah it's just started because you know the there are these two attack antagonists

1005
00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:34,460
with quotation marks that you know they murdered babuji got sent to prison and then fast forward

1006
00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:40,620
years later they're all grown men this gang uh they get these two guys get released into prison

1007
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:47,340
and then they um they're like the they started like they started having a deal with each other

1008
00:52:47,340 --> 00:52:52,860
like the starting a pork business yeah like the these two guys just got out of prison they're

1009
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:59,260
they're i don't know how to say it they're like the they're the ones in charge of like killing the

1010
00:52:59,260 --> 00:53:06,940
pork the pigs butchers the butchers yeah or slaughterers so what they were these rajan and

1011
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:14,700
ravi these two guys were like dealing wholesale in the whole angamali town yeah and then like they

1012
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:20,300
would take over the business from whoever is trying to do wholesale because they are the big guys now

1013
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:27,420
like they they they were like using all those pressure tactics like scare tactics to shoo

1014
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:32,780
everyone away even that's how they got the business like they just just just took it on the gun not

1015
00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:42,460
gunpoint like the the hammer point yeah so yeah so then then these guys come become like another

1016
00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:49,580
rowdy team and they start doing say this first start to start like buying from them and selling

1017
00:53:49,580 --> 00:53:57,260
and then they start their own wholesale like supplying to other retail yeah so that's that's

1018
00:53:57,260 --> 00:54:03,660
when they start fighting yeah because they start selling the the meat directly i want to add like

1019
00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:08,540
by the way it's like the the scenes where they were like butchering pigs does that make any money

1020
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:14,620
kind of comfortable it could be worse they hide most of it a lot of it's the audio yeah it's

1021
00:54:14,620 --> 00:54:19,900
actually screaming yeah but i just feel like i don't i don't it's not that i'm like disturbed

1022
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:24,860
by it i just feel like this is just how people get by you know like it's just yeah it's just showing

1023
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:30,060
the reality of things oh you should know how your food's made to be honest yeah it's true but i mean

1024
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:36,140
but also like they're not showing the actual butchering part it's the audio right yes you said

1025
00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:42,780
it's audio and the reference of things like it's the aftermath of bloody like they're blooded on

1026
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:48,140
blood on their face on their hands yeah like you hear pigs screaming which is horrific yeah i would

1027
00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:54,540
recommend this film to vegans no well i mean it'll make you pro your choice so like you know if you

1028
00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:59,020
want if you need that affirmative push you know but yeah the pig streaming is horrific but you

1029
00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:05,020
don't see too much it's just all implied at least but yes like this is the central conflict of the

1030
00:55:05,020 --> 00:55:10,220
film like these two and tian is their butchers they started making deals with our main boys

1031
00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:18,140
and it's the main our our team are the team that we're rooting for vincent pepe's uh gang

1032
00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:25,180
they started to do selling selling the the the pork directly and that's that starts this central

1033
00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:34,540
conflict and the many fights that that you know ensue and i think one central highlight one central

1034
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:42,140
one pivotal moment in the film is that like you know they start to learn how to make bombs and

1035
00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:49,420
vincent pepe accidentally you know like the bombs are used for intimidation right and then

1036
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:54,940
he accidentally threw it into this guy that just was trying to climb over like a wall and he fell

1037
00:55:54,940 --> 00:56:00,540
and the fight was like so mindless it's just like out of no reason they started the fight and it

1038
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:05,020
escalated and then they were running away they were chasing them with the bomb to show off that

1039
00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:10,300
they have bombs and stuff and they just like he just threw a bomb thinking that the guy would

1040
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:15,580
cross the wall by yeah that time but just a sense of irony right he was saying like you know we've

1041
00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:20,940
never been in a police case right yeah and then they finally ended up and that started to affect

1042
00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:29,020
their their livelihoods and i think that's was the catalyst who you know the gang turning to do more

1043
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:36,780
illegal activities like just to pay just to pay back the the the family of the deceased it was

1044
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:41,420
funny for a while because they're trying to find cheap ways to like get money so they start trying

1045
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:48,780
to rob someone and then the guy just has a seizure and falls down they took up like uh i think uh

1046
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:57,020
uh what do you call supari like uh like a contract contract to scare him because he was just like

1047
00:56:57,020 --> 00:57:01,260
like some some romantic issue and they took up a contract to like beat him up

1048
00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:09,100
and they they got the money to beat him up and they started just yeah like just not kill just

1049
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:15,420
like yeah like yeah round him up and then as soon as they start he gets a seizure and like falls on

1050
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:19,420
the ground yeah it was a string of unfortunate events when they tried to be like rowdy gang

1051
00:57:19,420 --> 00:57:25,580
members yeah yeah they're not good at it yeah they're not good gang members they're just teens

1052
00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:31,340
that like have nothing else to do meanwhile while that was happening right there's like the the the

1053
00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:38,060
guy that they killed basically he has a lot of cousins and that that is basically the main villain

1054
00:57:38,860 --> 00:57:44,060
if you have to call it that of the film where like this this his family these cousins this gang of

1055
00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:51,340
cousins they're trying to kill vincent and and his his friends you know as an act of revenge but then

1056
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:58,220
you have you have the two former convicts they're trying to like be the mediators and they're trying

1057
00:57:58,220 --> 00:58:03,900
to make peace they're trying to like you know stall them from doing these rash stupid just so

1058
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:10,460
that you know you know so nothing nothing work so that just so that shit wouldn't hit the fan

1059
00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:17,340
basically yeah yeah and there comes the police and the money but yeah yeah the police too and it's

1060
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:21,820
like it's just like i said like the whole movie is just more like the way of life you know just

1061
00:58:21,820 --> 00:58:27,740
how things are handled yeah so i mean yeah but like hilly says the friend dies and like they're

1062
00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:32,780
like look so you either go to jail or it's not even that you don't pay the police but you pay

1063
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:37,820
these guys off like they can accuse you and you go to jail or they can say that there's no witnesses

1064
00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:44,780
you know if you pay him so they demand like 30 uh 30 lakhs which is like 30 000 us dollars or something

1065
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:50,700
around there how much was 30 lakhs we did talk about this when we were watching the movie it was

1066
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:58,540
like yeah it's like 30 lakhs means like three million i n r three million i n r divided by like

1067
00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:05,980
like it's like 80 so maybe like 240 000 yeah like maybe 40 000 dollars 240 000 i guess

1068
00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:13,820
yeah 35 000 okay 35 000 dollar yeah yeah so 35 so they asked for 35 000 which is a lot which is a

1069
00:59:13,820 --> 00:59:18,540
lot for the the town they're showing like the money they have like yeah they don't have any money

1070
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:23,660
period they couldn't arrange that money i mean they have money they have business and everything

1071
00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:29,980
they have property but still like 30 lakh like three million rupees a lot for so they get on a

1072
00:59:29,980 --> 00:59:34,620
payment plan for this bribe they're like you pay like a small amount and like pay us over time

1073
00:59:34,620 --> 00:59:39,340
that are trying to like get this money and like he was gonna he has to sell this house that he was

1074
00:59:39,340 --> 00:59:45,180
gonna give for his sister's wedding or dowry and now he can't do that and like he breaks up with

1075
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:50,060
his girlfriend because he's like wanted for murder and he's like you shouldn't be with me because

1076
00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:54,140
like i'm wanted for murder i'm gonna go to jail like and he's right he's actually being quite

1077
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:59,660
you know he's right like she shouldn't be involved and you know he kind of gets super depressed and

1078
00:59:59,660 --> 01:00:05,100
like isolates and stuff as you would because all these people are pitching in to help him though

1079
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:12,140
which is at least nice so yeah they pay him off and then what happens they managed to pay him off

1080
01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:18,940
but then like you know they the the those cousins they're they're just so they're just so thirsty

1081
01:00:18,940 --> 01:00:25,500
also rajan and ravi did something like again bad that they took three million like 30 lakh

1082
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:32,540
rupee and they just gave him four lakh rupees to the family and friends they they kept all the

1083
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:38,300
money for themselves for just mediating this murder deal and they they just gave them four

1084
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:44,220
lakh which is like 0.4 million i know like which is like oh yeah you can see them turn into

1085
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:49,020
protagonists though these two guys what rajan and ravi because they actually try to tell the brother

1086
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:53,260
in law to leave them alone like they want the violence to stop they just they cheat them of

1087
01:00:53,260 --> 01:00:58,300
money again well yes so that's why he gets stabbed at the end it's all about survival everything is

1088
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:03,180
paid for everyone thinks it's over they're gonna enjoy this procession yeah festival and i think

1089
01:01:03,180 --> 01:01:08,300
that's what leads to the really cool end shot yeah the end shot one shot where like they're all

1090
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:13,820
celebrating i think it was diwali right yeah it's not diwali it's i think it's like they were wearing

1091
01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:19,980
like halloween costumes or it's a bunch of fireworks it won't be diwali oh yeah that is true

1092
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:21,980
yeah christmas

1093
01:01:24,940 --> 01:01:30,780
but yeah it's like you know all the all the gangs they made peace right and

1094
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:40,220
you get this one shot of like a huge parade with full of like you know jovial celebration

1095
01:01:40,220 --> 01:01:44,540
and then lights it's like nighttime there's like lights everywhere it's really pretty yeah

1096
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:49,500
fireworks yeah and they're just walking through this crowd like you all your all your characters

1097
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:55,660
all your boys are just walking through this crowd meanwhile like they the gang the the gang of the

1098
01:01:55,660 --> 01:02:02,940
deceased were just like trying to plot their revenge and you know uh one of the main characters

1099
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:10,140
gets i'm not gonna say who but they gets fatally fatally stabbed and it thus starts another fight

1100
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:16,380
right and then they get this chase scene which is like one continuous take which was technically

1101
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:23,020
impressive so it's yeah at 11 minute shot 11 minutes shot with like over like i don't like

1102
01:02:24,300 --> 01:02:29,100
like close to a thousand i don't know like yeah like tons of extras and stuff like if you're a

1103
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:33,100
fan of alphonse au courant like so he's like one of my favorite directors but he did um

1104
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:39,980
harry potter three prisoner of azkaban but he also did a two mama tambien uh children of men

1105
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:45,900
gravity and stuff yeah i think this is very very much inspired from children of men yeah that that's

1106
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:52,780
100 yeah i i think even he made a film called children of men oh well yeah i mean yeah so

1107
01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:56,140
children of men is one of the best movies ever made like it's one of my favorite movies and

1108
01:02:56,140 --> 01:03:01,500
and alphonse was like a pioneer of the long shot uh even any two mama tambien though like a low

1109
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:13,100
budget though the the dop liboski liboski sorry okay and so anyway so um uh if you're a fan of

1110
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:18,780
those like one shot takes and stuff um they pull it off really well here like it's a handy cam

1111
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:23,020
where they just like follow this action they follow different plots going on in these huge

1112
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:30,620
crowds it's it's flawless there's fighting going on so like they're hitting walls and like you know

1113
01:03:30,620 --> 01:03:35,180
taking punches and falling on the ground too with all this chaos going on all these crowds like i

1114
01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:39,820
don't know how long it must have taken them like how many times they must have rehearsed super

1115
01:03:39,820 --> 01:03:44,940
super impressive and you know it's not just show-offy like if you see the movie birdman where

1116
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:49,820
the whole movie's one take it's it's a little like gratuitous i think it doesn't like serve the

1117
01:03:49,820 --> 01:03:54,380
the story that much but this one like the reason why alphonse au courant does it is because it

1118
01:03:54,380 --> 01:03:59,500
holds tension really well if you're not cutting like everything's happening in real time and

1119
01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:04,540
tension can just build really quickly so in children of men the long shot takes like really

1120
01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:10,460
like get you like um uh like enraptured in the action going on and so this one too when it's the

1121
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:18,220
last like uh uh climactic finale like you just see the fights start to happen slowly and slowly

1122
01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:22,940
and build up and because it's all real time like you get it's really tense to watch because it's

1123
01:04:22,940 --> 01:04:28,380
like just like real life and in real time and so yeah it served the story it didn't seem show-offy

1124
01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:33,340
but it was really well done yeah i mean uh actually like when i watched it for the first time i didn't

1125
01:04:33,340 --> 01:04:39,340
even realize that it was a single shot like it was so unnecessarily i mean it's so not not

1126
01:04:39,340 --> 01:04:45,260
unnecessarily it doesn't point at itself and say look at how this is a one shot yeah it just happens

1127
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:52,060
oh yeah so the the dop of children of men is immanuel lewisky and he did birdman as well

1128
01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:59,660
the cinematographer yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's very inspired by that style but it's amazingly

1129
01:04:59,660 --> 01:05:07,020
i think in one one interview the director said like so he had done mba as a study and then the

1130
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:13,340
interviewer asking like so you did mba now you're a film director like what did you learn like and

1131
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:21,020
he said like honestly like one thing i can carry forward from mba is like managing people i love

1132
01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:29,180
managing bunch of people at the set and like he's really good at choreographing a huge load of people

1133
01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:35,980
in front of camera doing an action which is like like as an aspiring director which is like huge to

1134
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:45,180
like make people move that much and that well and that chaotically and make it look beautiful and

1135
01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:51,980
not like lose or anything super tight it's it's an amazing skill this director has and even if

1136
01:05:51,980 --> 01:05:57,980
you're doing gigantic huge dance numbers or this it's the same it's all choreographed yeah but in

1137
01:05:57,980 --> 01:06:03,580
that yeah but he's creating a chaos in usually i mean there are dance numbers where there's chaos

1138
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:08,940
but i mean i love well i just mean like chaos or not chaos like the the chaos is is choreographed

1139
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:13,580
and so like even if you're not like yeah just having a bunch of people do a dance number

1140
01:06:13,580 --> 01:06:19,260
or choreographing a gigantic chaotic group scene is the same skill set yeah that's why it's called

1141
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:24,940
even this is called choreography when we practice with the actors like where they're gonna stand

1142
01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:30,060
where they're gonna move around in front in the frame and everything we call it choreography yeah

1143
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:39,660
so it's it's amazing i love this guy for that so then the main uh so pepe uh survives yeah the the

1144
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:46,940
the the murder uh like the i'm not gonna spoil how they died the assassination attempt oh yeah i mean

1145
01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:50,940
well we're starting no no no no every movie we talked about we've spoiled okay so well

1146
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:57,100
the chase scene is amazing like i don't know how how else to like how how much we can phrase the

1147
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:03,660
the chase scene right it's just it's just great like yeah they chase the brother-in-law and he

1148
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:12,380
just like it just ends in this crescendo of like fireworks yeah it was very bombastic by

1149
01:07:12,940 --> 01:07:18,140
Ravi i think the other guy who was killed the other guy he was just randomly kicked by that guy

1150
01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:23,500
at the last stage and they just he just and it just feels like it just wraps up that conflict

1151
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:28,860
okay there's no more murder attempts i just think i was just thinking about the wife of Rajan the

1152
01:07:28,860 --> 01:07:35,180
guy who got stabbed like his husband and his her husband and her brother like dies did raja die

1153
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:41,740
not raja i think it's rahi oh but like did he die who was the one who i mean it's kind of like the

1154
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:46,700
way he stabbed him it's most probably he died like he stabbed him like but they mentioned it at the

1155
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:53,100
very end he died he mentioned it that he died okay yeah like at the very end they said it in the

1156
01:07:53,100 --> 01:08:01,580
narration just yeah so he dies he so her husband dies her i mean there was a scene where he seemed

1157
01:08:01,580 --> 01:08:05,900
like he was kind of a dick to her because he's trying to kick her and her brother out so she

1158
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:11,420
might be celebrating probably but her brother is dead yeah i think two problematic men in her life

1159
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:19,820
is dead now there another way is like only has a son but then like vincent vincent and you know

1160
01:08:19,820 --> 01:08:27,100
his vincent's vincent's story ends on a good note right he gets a construction job in dubai dubai

1161
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:33,900
yeah and marries like lychee which is like very surprising right i mean i mean adam did mention

1162
01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:42,380
that the romance is really cute you know she initiated they like uh you know it was it was

1163
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:46,540
very natural like the way that it was come up like you thought it would be like one of those like

1164
01:08:46,540 --> 01:08:52,860
cheesy bollywood-esque romances but no it's like these there are these two people that decide like

1165
01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:58,380
hey you know why don't we just get married we're like we have a second girlfriend kind of felt

1166
01:08:58,380 --> 01:09:04,780
mid in the whole romance level the second girlfriend felt like kind of like in terms

1167
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:12,540
of excitement it kind of felt me it's like it was showing kind of a natural dating of like a very

1168
01:09:12,540 --> 01:09:19,420
usual dating scene when you like uh hook up so you some of your friends and then you go on double

1169
01:09:19,420 --> 01:09:26,460
date and then you go to know the girls and then just do the the usual dance around the romance

1170
01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:31,900
and then like yeah start relationship and that's what he says like he started the relationship

1171
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:39,980
because he wanted to go to germany with her that's why she he want he like went out with her and then

1172
01:09:39,980 --> 01:09:45,500
gradually he's like oh he's got more serious after that like i really fallen for whatever he's saying

1173
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:50,860
that he just wants to like find a woman who knows all about his history his like case the case against

1174
01:09:50,860 --> 01:09:55,500
him and all but still wants to be with him and then lichi lichi proved that right like yeah and

1175
01:09:55,500 --> 01:10:00,860
another thing that like what i really liked about their romance is that like their their wedding was

1176
01:10:00,860 --> 01:10:06,940
just at the courthouse at the courthouse unremarkable nothing grand he has no money because he had he had

1177
01:10:06,940 --> 01:10:11,500
to give it all to pay off his murder i really like that personally because it was just like you know

1178
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:16,940
we've been watching all these like yeah it's true extravagant weddings at these indian movies but

1179
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:22,780
this one was just very normal very like they took photos in the stairwell and stuff remarkable i

1180
01:10:22,780 --> 01:10:28,380
thought that was really cute it was there was some waiting with a lot of food and alcohol and you

1181
01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:33,900
guys you guys noticed how much they were drinking a lot they're drinking all the time that's why

1182
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:37,980
they're fighting all the time man yeah they're drinking fighting eating okay yeah waiting but

1183
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:45,020
but um with the the marriage too like it was more of like hey look like she's not getting younger

1184
01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:52,620
he knows the situation like it's a very realistic like you know we've grown up together we know each

1185
01:10:52,620 --> 01:10:57,420
other's flaws like if we're like very few people are going to probably marry us at this point for

1186
01:10:57,420 --> 01:11:03,020
various reasons and it works and it works well of course they love each other because you have the

1187
01:11:03,020 --> 01:11:07,580
scene where lichi is a bit drunk and then kind of like comes on to him and then he finally gets it

1188
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:10,860
that she likes him and then he's like walking home you guys remember the scene he's just like

1189
01:11:10,860 --> 01:11:17,900
smiling and like jumping up like this like 12 year old boy who finds out he's just very like yeah it's

1190
01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:25,020
not they love each other it's just like but i don't think they either of them saw it coming until

1191
01:11:25,020 --> 01:11:31,420
that time yeah for whatever reason it's not easy it's relatable yeah she was she was helping him

1192
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:38,780
with the other girl yeah previous girlfriend and he he hangs out with her as like she's a childhood

1193
01:11:38,780 --> 01:11:45,100
friend and stuff like that yeah he's really cute yeah and then he gets to tell the dude that he's

1194
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:52,780
did his sister oh my god yeah that's the biggest kick i think that's why he was giggling while

1195
01:11:52,780 --> 01:11:59,260
going back to oh bro i know what to call what to tell you next time and uh if we're gonna go to

1196
01:11:59,260 --> 01:12:04,060
adam's symbolism corner here so like when they're in when he's at his hometown you know they're

1197
01:12:04,060 --> 01:12:09,660
butchering pigs it's violent you know they have like weapons and in his new life he's in dubai

1198
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:16,060
he's literally building stuff instead of destroying so like he's like building towers instead of

1199
01:12:16,060 --> 01:12:21,340
killing animals so i thought that was nice and we get like a long nice drone shot or something

1200
01:12:21,340 --> 01:12:26,700
yeah it was a drone shy i'm dubai like all the cinematography just keeps on coming like these

1201
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:32,220
impressive yeah it was cool he wasn't like in a green screen like he was in that like he's in a

1202
01:12:32,220 --> 01:12:38,860
big crane like in a huge like you know like towering over dubai you know skyscrapers and they like zoom

1203
01:12:38,860 --> 01:12:45,180
out he's doing that was pretty cool yeah yeah very good pick killy really again no musical numbers

1204
01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:48,940
though but music was good there are there are not a classic bollywood film but i think it's good

1205
01:12:48,940 --> 01:12:53,740
this is our introduction to malu yeah yeah it's not bollywood but like it's a very good introduction

1206
01:12:53,740 --> 01:13:00,300
to malu malali film what do you say malayali malayali so is this director very famous in the

1207
01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:08,060
malayali industry yeah he's he's he has this um very indie vibe like he's a very indie

1208
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:19,100
artsy also very mainstreamy like it's mix of artsy and mainstream so he's very popular yeah is this

1209
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:26,860
his most popular film or is there one i think this was mostly celebrated by both like everyone

1210
01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:33,660
this film yeah i think this one is the most popular film he has made yeah and this is

1211
01:13:34,940 --> 01:13:40,780
yeah this like i i i was blown away like when i watched this film i was like wow it's so cool

1212
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:48,940
like it kind of dragged me back in dragged me into malayalam film industry yeah there are other

1213
01:13:48,940 --> 01:13:54,300
films i watched before but this one again when i started like you know finding out what films

1214
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:58,460
they're making one of the good films even the classic old films and everything's and like yeah

1215
01:14:00,220 --> 01:14:08,060
angamali diaries for you guys yeah recommend it's very realistic it's like a very uh yeah like i said

1216
01:14:08,060 --> 01:14:16,220
cute but like um i i really like the small scale of like a street gang fight that that that's i

1217
01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:22,540
really enjoy that oh and another thing like the all the fight choreography so natural it is very

1218
01:14:22,540 --> 01:14:27,500
lengthy but the all the actors really know how to make i was scared for them because they're hitting

1219
01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:32,140
like cement walls and stuff like this really physical like they were getting beaten up for

1220
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:35,980
sure they kept pushing each other and it didn't look like you know it was dragging on like it

1221
01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:40,620
really looked like a real fight yeah they were getting tired they were getting and the camera

1222
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:46,140
work when they were chasing each other right like even it started when they i think that that that

1223
01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:52,060
style started when babuji gets murdered for the first time like the first proper violence involving

1224
01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:58,460
death that's when that camera's that that low shutter speed camera movement starts right like

1225
01:14:59,260 --> 01:15:04,140
chunking x-ray stripe like yeah and then that happens again when the bomb goes off

1226
01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:10,380
but at the end it's just like smooth like we ease into the violent world and then like it

1227
01:15:11,660 --> 01:15:17,660
at the end it's just like part of life and it ends with the firework celebration and on the sky like

1228
01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:22,700
the firework going up in the sky i was definitely expecting a different ending like i was bracing

1229
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:27,260
myself for vincent pepe to die i thought it would have to be like i thought that was gonna happen

1230
01:15:27,260 --> 01:15:31,660
100% yeah i thought everyone was gonna die like it was like some i thought it was just 100% he's

1231
01:15:31,660 --> 01:15:36,540
gonna die i thought they were all gonna die somehow like i think that would have happened if it was

1232
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:42,140
a tragic ending made in 80s and 90s yeah that time india was making all this film like good films

1233
01:15:42,140 --> 01:15:49,340
every it was always like sad ending i mean it takes some kind of like strategy to be able to

1234
01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:53,660
make a film about gangs but still have people root for them and then have them survive and be like

1235
01:15:53,660 --> 01:15:57,260
yeah like it's a good ending you know i think we watched def d and we were like ah we don't know

1236
01:15:57,260 --> 01:16:01,420
if that ending was very yeah fitting right but you never have this feeling with this movie

1237
01:16:01,420 --> 01:16:07,020
they're also he is he did something criminal like it's the positioning of the whole thing like it's

1238
01:16:07,020 --> 01:16:11,020
the narrative of the whole thing he did something criminal he killed people and then all these

1239
01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:14,700
middle easterners can watch this movie be like i knew all the fucking construction workers were

1240
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:20,620
jakes i fucking knew they're all criminals coming over here oh man built the wall

1241
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:27,100
uh i hope the next movie we watch involves like a buffet or like swimming or something because i

1242
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:31,740
don't really want to role play bribing the police again so if we can like maybe pick a different

1243
01:16:31,740 --> 01:16:36,140
movie that i could better role play with i would be happy for that maybe like a candy land movie i

1244
01:16:36,140 --> 01:16:42,140
don't know if that exists but i would like that what you were suggesting i was suggesting a stoner

1245
01:16:42,140 --> 01:16:47,260
film like a stoner comedy oh we can role play that that's better we will play that quite often

1246
01:16:48,460 --> 01:16:53,180
there is stoner comedy that comes up to my head uh that's no we'll talk about it off the off the

1247
01:16:53,180 --> 01:16:57,180
pocket well we can't we i don't want to mention films because we're never gonna fucking play them

1248
01:16:57,180 --> 01:17:06,380
all right uh thank you all for listening uh see you next time enjoy bye bye bye bye

1249
01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:21,500
so yeah take care of it good food