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Josh makes podcasts. And we're in May. And what's

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the holiday in May, Joey? Cinco de Mayo. Nah,

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just fucking with you. We're not doing Cinco

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de Mayo. That was an idea we had. It was an idea,

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yeah. And I was like, nah. And then we're like,

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oh, Mother's Day's coming. So we were running

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through all these ideas. Joey had one idea. I

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had an idea. I want to do Fiscal de Hierro. And

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then what else did we pick? We picked all kinds

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of titles. I was about to say brainwash. We brainstormed

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a couple different titles and then decided, you

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know what? The titles we're talking about today,

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those are the ones. They got to be the ones.

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Yeah, we picked out some really sleazy ones.

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Pretty much horror -esque titles as well, especially

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the first one that we're going to talk about.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, we took

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a month off, man. It was my fault we didn't have

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an episode in April. Well, we might have, but

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I don't know what happened. I don't know. It'll

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be a Patreon episode in the next four years.

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Patreon or a lost episode we found later. But,

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yeah, no. Well, yeah, we don't have an episode

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for April, technically. We've been busy with

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other stuff, which I think we could say we're

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doing a commentary for. Roy from Space. Check

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it out on Diff Crocodile. More on that later.

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But now we're going to talk about our Mother's

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Day titles. That's right. Shout out to all the

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moms. Sleazy titles. But we're talking about

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some really not normal moms in this episode.

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They're pretty fucking weird. Fucked up. Yeah.

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If you've ever had an overbearing mom or, I don't

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know, just a controlling mom or a fucking weird

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mom. To just do whatever. Exactly. influences

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you too much then you're gonna you're gonna relate

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to this one yeah and our first one actually is

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a familiar one so we're not gonna say what it's

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familiar for we're just gonna we're gonna well

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joey's gonna let's talk and talk about it and

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we're gonna let the viewers decide does this

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movie sound familiar to you guys because i think

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it does yeah um yeah i mean it's it's a it's

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a complete ripoff um i guess i guess i want to

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know I mean, I want to talk about this in depth,

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but it's hard not to spoil. I mean, we learned

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who the killer is after the first 15 minutes

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anyway. It's the same thing. I'm just going to

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go ahead and spoil it. So if you want to watch

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this movie before we talk about it, I don't know.

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I think there's a version on YouTube of this.

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If not, we'll link it. Yeah, if not, we'll link

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it. So watch the movie before you listen to this

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because there's going to be spoilers for this

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shit. Yeah, all right. I guess I'll go first.

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Yeah. Fuck it. Let's do it. So the first movie

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we're talking about is Obsession de Matar from

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1992. What a wild fucking movie, man. I know.

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I knew you were going to like it. When I was

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giving titles, I was like, I think Joey's going

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to like it. I fucking loved it. And the funny

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thing is, so this is a complete ripoff of an

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American classic horror movie. Part four. We'll

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just say that. Very slight variant differences

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in this Mexico's rendition of the story. But,

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you know, the the basic plot before I get into

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any of like the backstory about it is, you know,

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it's there's a radio show where a psychotic killer

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calls in and basically details his life on how

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he became a. I guess, I don't know what the word

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is, matricidal killer? Is that the right way

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to say matricide? And yeah, and then he just

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goes on and gives his backstory. Flashbacks.

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Flashbacks, yeah. Wait, so is this Cycle 4 we're

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talking about? This is, yeah. If you guessed

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Cycle 4, that's exactly what this is. We're talking

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about Cycle 4? This is a complete ripoff of Cycle

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4. Like I said, very slight variant, but it is

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what it is. Let's get into it, man. Fucking directed

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by Ismael Rodriguez Jr. The son of a legend.

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Son of a legend, yeah. And so I didn't realize

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that... I guess so his dad was part of like a

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duo with his brother, which would be his uncle,

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right? Yeah, I believe so. The Hermanos Rodriguez.

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Yeah, and then his brothers are in it. Everybody

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in that family is like all in film. Yeah, it's

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like a long lineage. And his brother's in the

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movie. Cuauhtemoc, he's in the movie too. Yeah,

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exactly. Yeah. And so his dad, along with his

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uncle. were writer, producer, directors, actors,

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you know, together. I guess the biggest title

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that I saw just from kind of skimming through

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their history is Hay Jalisco No Terrajes, which

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is a classic Mexican movie. Nosotros Los Pobres.

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Exactly, yeah. So all golden age stuff, you know.

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And then, so he started in 1973 with producing.

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Then writing in 1983 and didn't really make his

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first debut until 1985 as a director. And that's

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with Masacre en el Río Tula. That's a heavy title

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already to start off. Crazy, right? So that's

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the thing about Ismael Jr. He started off with

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some really hard titles. And I guess he's also,

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I mean, he's known for kind of having sleazier,

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on the sleazier side of titles. I mean, yeah.

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I mean, he learned it from his dad. If you watch

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his dad's movies, especially the later stuff.

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There's a bit of sleaze in there, some brutality

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in there mixed in. So he was learning from his

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dad, and I think he was just going with the times.

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It's like, all right, people want brutal stuff.

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I'm going to give it to them. And, of course,

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anyone who knows me knows that the sleazier the

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movie, the more I like it. I mean, if you thought

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Psycho 4 was sleazy, yeah, it's not. It's just

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like a basic sequel horror title. Well, that's

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what I like about this more. So Psycho 4 isn't

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the greatest movie, but it's all right. For what

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it is, yeah. For what it is, it's all right.

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But what Psycho 4 doesn't do, Obsesión de Matar

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does. And they fucking go for it. He was not

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afraid to let the sleaze out, as they say. What

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I did find interesting is that this was actually

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written by a female. And she's very familiar

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to me. I know this woman's name because I've

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always seen it in the past. Yeah, I wasn't too

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familiar with her name, so I just started looking

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up more of her movies. And then I'm like, oh,

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I kind of know some of these titles. Because

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sometimes her name changes in those titles. Yeah,

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so her name, I guess her real name is Veronica

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Angeles Franco, but then also known as Veronica

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Thompson, which I'm assuming is her married name.

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And just some of the movies that she's done,

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La Mujer Judicial. Polvo de Muerte, Guerreros

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Diabólicas, Angustia Fatal, Masacre en la Prepa,

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which is an Almada movie. And then, of course,

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later in her career, like most people, she went

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into novellas. Written by a woman, Veronica Angeles.

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Her name pops up in a bunch of those 90s video

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homes. I was like, that's kind of like how I

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noticed how females were really involved in those

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movies. I was like, she's one of the pioneers

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for sure. She was definitely getting work done.

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As a writer. As a screenwriter, exactly. Because

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her name was just popping up left and right.

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Every time I would put on a movie from like,

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you know, Mech Cinema or something, her name's

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on the screen. There it is. Yeah, definitely

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just based off of the titles alone. I mean, like

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I said, I mean, I've seen Masacre en la Prepa,

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but I haven't seen any of the others. Like Polvo

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de Muerte, that title did stick out to me. Those

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are like men -oriented movies, too. That's the

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funny part. A lot of those movies seem like they're

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just for men, but here we have a woman that wrote

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them. There it is. She knew what to write about,

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yeah. She could possibly be the next feature

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for Bellas de Trash Max. You never know. You

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never know. Tune in for next year. Well, right

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off the bat, I wanted to ask you because I noticed

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the first thing. There's six different production

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companies listed as this movie starts, right?

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So, yes. Peliculas Rodriguez, which, of course,

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that's exactly. Oro Films. That was probably

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one of theirs. Producciones EGA. EGA, never heard

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of them. Never heard of them, yeah. Novo Films.

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That one sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. Dragón

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Films. never heard of it but there's one that's

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familiar and mech cinema corporation everyone

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knows mech corporation yeah so or sorry mech

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cinema corporation um but even with that because

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i mean typically you see that many different

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production you know houses or whatever you want

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to say production companies and they things can

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get a little weird you know because all these

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people want to put their input in but i gotta

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say this movie plays it straight and you can

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tell this was ismael's vision throughout the

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entire movie. Like there's no strays from what

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the story is. Yeah. Like it's obviously a rip

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off of another movie, but even then it's like,

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it's, it feels like an original movie though,

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regardless. Yeah. Which I will say, man, I got,

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you know, you know, shout out to Mick Garris.

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He's a cool guy and all, but his movies suck.

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And I will say, I will say that on the show with,

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with no fear, but I got to revisit sleepwalkers,

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but the rest of them, the rest of them, I've

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never understood garbage, dude. Um, but cycle

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four. Not bad, man. Not bad. So if you've seen

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Psycho 4, then you know that this movie deals

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with incest, murder, a little bit of pedophilia,

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fucking narcissistic doctors who want to be right.

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There's even abortion issues brought up in this

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movie. It's pretty anti -abortion. Yeah. Which

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is pretty typical of the view of abortion in

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Mexico anyways. Yeah, I mean, let's get into

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the cast. Before we start breaking down plot

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points, let's do the cast a little bit. First

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up is Jorge Reynoso, who we've spoken about ad

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nauseum here. If you haven't heard that name

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listening to the podcast, you haven't listened

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to enough episodes. So it speaks for itself,

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but he plays a character named Jaime in this

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story, who is a doctor in his own right. Or psychiatrist,

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I guess you could say. Then we have Sebastian

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Ligarde, who plays Sebastian. Almost everyone

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in this movie is just using their real name.

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Exactly. That's what I noticed. You know, I noticed

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that that happens a lot in these video home type

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movies, too. I think it's just because they're

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on the fly when they're writing the script. Just

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fucking get it. What are we going to call these

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characters? We're just going to call them your

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name. Let's just use your name. You don't got

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to remember who they are in the script. None

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of that shit, right? You got to just do that.

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Sebastian Ligarde is a... He's a very well -known

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actor. Oh, since like the early 80s, basically.

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Yeah, so he started actually in theater in the

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early 70s and then went on to movies in 1976.

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And thanks to Enrique Gomez Vadillo. There you

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go. He's the one that set him up. And no surprise

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there because eventually Sebastián Ligada came

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out as a gay man. Nobody knew. Nobody knew until

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actually like within the last 15 -ish years is

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when he finally came out. Even when you watch

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the movies of his, you just never thought he

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was because he's just such a ladies' man in other

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movies. Yeah, and he always plays like the bad

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guy, like the villain, you know, like the macho

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man type guy. Well, he's not macho in this one.

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Yeah, you just never would have thought like

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in real life, like, oh, he's actually this gay

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man who had a partner for so long. Yeah, so I

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mean, he played in some serious movies, right?

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So here's just a list of some movies that people

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might know, right? So his first movie is Survive,

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which is a great Mexican movie. If you haven't

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seen that, you should watch that. Amityville

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3D, which, you know, if you're an Amityville

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fan. I didn't even know he was in that one. Yeah,

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yeah. Okay, I need to watch that. Remo Williams,

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another big 80s movie. Lamberto Quintero, a fucking

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classic fucking movie. That's probably one of

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his leading, well, not a leading role, but yeah,

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he was. He was getting up there. It's just before

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he was top billed, but yeah, he's getting up

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there. La Secta de la Muerte. Traficantes de

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Niños, which I think is his first collaboration

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with Ismael Rodriguez, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

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if I recall, that one is. Yeah, he's the lead

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in that one. The lead villain, I guess. And then,

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you know, he started, he got into novelas in

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the early 90s. Didn't fully switch over to novelas

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yet until later, you know, like most people in

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the 2000s, but that's when he started. Yeah,

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I mean, he's won awards. He's won Mexican Emmys.

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He's a super well -established actor. And now

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he teaches acting in Miami. Well, I read he also

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has a school in Chicago, too. Yeah, in Chicago.

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So, I mean, that goes to show you. The dude was

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with it, man. Very established career, and he

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should be very proud of it. We're all proud of

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him because he did a really good job over the

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years in everything he did. Even in the shitty

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movies. Even in the shittiest movies, he's still

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really good. They pay the bills, I'm in it, bro.

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But he doesn't really stand out. In here, in

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this movie, yeah, he's amazing. His, I guess

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his love interest, well, his wife in this movie

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really is, her name is Diana, and of course is

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played by Diana Ferretti, who was a model in

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the 80s. Started doing movies under the name

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Diana Gay, which I thought was interesting. Yeah.

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And she was in quite a few movies, too. I mean,

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she was in Siete en la Mira, El Vecindario, what

00:13:56.980 --> 00:13:59.799
else? Hijo de Pedro Navaja. She was in a lot

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of stuff. Yeah, and a bunch, a bunch of shit.

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She was in the sexy comedias. I mean, she did

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everything. Everything. And, of course, in the

00:14:07.620 --> 00:14:09.759
1990s, you know, switched over to video homes,

00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:14.200
was in Waco, Texas, Apocalypses, which I think

00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.299
you screened that one in Texas, right? Yeah,

00:14:16.299 --> 00:14:20.259
that one. Yeah. El Gato de Chihuahua, which is

00:14:20.259 --> 00:14:23.019
a sick -ass corrido, if you haven't heard that

00:14:23.019 --> 00:14:32.759
one. The movie's terrible. Yeah, unfortunately,

00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.600
but the song goes fucking hard. That's Huracanes

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del Norte. And then, you know, she also directed

00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.529
a movie in 1998, Venganza Siniestra. I didn't

00:14:44.529 --> 00:14:46.750
even know she directed, honestly. That's her

00:14:46.750 --> 00:14:51.710
one credit on IMDb, which, of course, is added

00:14:51.710 --> 00:14:53.769
to the watch list because I had never seen that.

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Yeah, I never heard of her. Then you have the

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mom of the story, who her name is just Mama.

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No originality there. And that's played by Mara

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Ibarra, who has a very small career. Very small

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career, but she's in some standout titles for

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sure. I think one's called La Casa Abandonada,

00:15:15.110 --> 00:15:16.690
I think. Yeah, something like that, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, really obscure stuff she was in. Video

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homes, all video homes. Then you have Marisol

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Cervantes, who plays, quote -unquote, Amiga del

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Madre. I thought that was funny. Yeah. Just call

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her the more friends mom. And I think most people

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would know her as the masseuse in Violador Infernal.

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Anyone who's watched the... the blu -ray you

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know you'll you'll catch that um then we have

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uh dr perera who's played by uh paco uh fares

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who another another big name yeah he was in amityville

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3d as well so him and sebastian have a little

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bit not as good as amityville 2 i will say but

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um but he was in all kinds of shit you know bring

00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:12.289
me the head of alfredo garcia He was in Agente

00:16:12.289 --> 00:16:15.409
0013, Hermelinda Linda 2, which we talked about

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in a previous episode. And he also worked with

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Ismael earlier in Traficantes de Niños as well.

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That's funny because he always plays like a bad

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guy in those movies. In this one, he's just like

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there sitting down. Yeah, I mean, he's trying

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to be the voice of reason in this movie, but

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no one's really listening to him. And then, of

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course, you have the main radio host of the show

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in the movie, Nora, who's played by Nora. Yeah,

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Nora Torrero. Who was in Siete de la Mira 2,

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Verduleros 2, Don't Panic, Entre Pilos Punks,

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Placer de la Venganza, all kinds of fucking movies.

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Which, you know, as I was going through this,

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I'm like, dude. Here's a possible topic episode.

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We got to do a bracket of the best Mexican movies

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that have the word Infernal in the title. I know,

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right? That is a good idea. Just all year. Every

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episode of each month is going to be a battle

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of the best Infernal title. Okay. We're going

00:17:19.809 --> 00:17:23.450
to keep that in mind. Infernal Halloween. I don't

00:17:23.450 --> 00:17:26.240
know. We'll figure it out. Infernal Summer. If

00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.099
it's not Infernal, it's Implacable or Venganza.

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Those are like the three. If you guys want to

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know my eBay cheat sheet, just search Venganza

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VHS. There it is. You'll find the good shit.

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There it is. So yeah, those are the main actors

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of the movie. Yeah, pretty much everyone that

00:17:46.619 --> 00:17:48.619
we named is in this movie throughout the whole

00:17:48.619 --> 00:17:50.910
time. yeah yeah yeah and i mean it's a short

00:17:50.910 --> 00:17:53.410
task for them it's very short yeah and even like

00:17:53.410 --> 00:17:55.509
jorge reynoso like he's in the movie but he's

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not like yeah i mean he's just kind of kicking

00:17:57.950 --> 00:17:59.730
back like driving at night yeah he's supposed

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to drive to the birthday party which we'll get

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to yeah yeah we'll get driving and then he's

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on the phone that's it yeah he doesn't he's not

00:18:06.069 --> 00:18:10.089
really around um but yeah i mean let's get into

00:18:10.089 --> 00:18:12.670
it because the movie as we said is a is a cycle

00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:14.589
for ripoff so if you're a fan of that you know

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exactly where this story is going to go And it

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opens up with Diana and Sebastian arguing because,

00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.160
you know, he wants to have a kid. She's not really

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ready. She don't really know what's going on.

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Yeah, and she wants him to have a stable job.

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Yeah, because he's not working. Yeah, he's just

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painting. and yeah she's like a radio host producer

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and it's her birthday night of course it's raining

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you know so she's like well i gotta go to work

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figure your shit out like you know whatever so

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she's gone and so this was like all right well

00:19:04.019 --> 00:19:05.559
it's her birthday i guess you know i'll get ready

00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.079
for her birthday dinner and all that shit um

00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.440
and just like psycho 4 the topic is matricide

00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.069
on the radio which i mean crazy radio show to

00:19:15.069 --> 00:19:18.890
have yeah i know cch pounder is a fucking beast

00:19:18.890 --> 00:19:21.910
of an actress too she's great um but nora did

00:19:21.910 --> 00:19:25.269
a great job in her replacement um and so basically

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it's just in the beginning it's uh dr perera

00:19:28.430 --> 00:19:32.170
and nora discussing matricide and you know the

00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:34.730
possibilities of you know what drives people

00:19:34.730 --> 00:19:38.809
to kill like is love a factor in wanting to kill

00:19:38.809 --> 00:19:41.470
somebody like can you kill out of love or is

00:19:41.470 --> 00:19:44.349
it out of whatever childhood trauma sexual trauma

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like you know that whole discussion Nuestro invitado

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de hoy es el doctor Alberto Pereira, reconocido

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psiquiatra por su labor en el Centro de Orientación

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para Varones. Bienvenido, doctor. Muchas gracias,

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señorita Nora. Doctor, dígame, ¿puede la falta

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de amor provocar un asesinato? Bueno, esa es

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una buena razón. Normalmente, psicológicamente

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hablando, tendemos a destruir siempre lo que

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odiamos. Lo que nos lastima. Lo que nos acompleja.

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Los matricidas actúan entonces por desamor. También

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por locura. O muchas veces por las presiones

00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:06.920
emocionales, sociales, económicas. Por amor.

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En fin, son muchas las razones. And that's when

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Sebastian is listening and is like, well, I got

00:21:21.089 --> 00:21:23.410
a fucking story to tell you motherfuckers. He

00:21:23.410 --> 00:21:25.490
wants to prove him wrong too. He calls him and

00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:27.470
that's when he's like, yeah, you got it all wrong.

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Yeah. Well, because Dr. Pereira, he's like, you

00:21:33.710 --> 00:21:36.950
can tell he's one of those snobbish doctors who's

00:21:36.950 --> 00:21:39.309
like, I'm right. I'm the fucking doctor here.

00:21:39.450 --> 00:21:40.930
You guys don't know what you guys are talking

00:21:40.930 --> 00:21:44.039
about. And, of course, Nora is, like, the fucking,

00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.900
I don't want to say devil's advocate, but she

00:21:47.900 --> 00:21:51.339
thinks, you know, it's her radio show. She's

00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:52.980
going for ratings. So she's trying to be the

00:21:52.980 --> 00:21:55.759
opposite of him and, you know, kind of go in

00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.240
that direction. So, you know, when he first calls

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in, of course, he uses a fake name just like

00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:03.460
Psycho 4, and he's going by Pepe. And he basically

00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:04.799
just tells them, like, yeah, you know what? You

00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.420
guys are full of shit, you know. people don't

00:22:08.420 --> 00:22:11.220
kill you know for sex or sexual trauma or nothing

00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:13.240
like that people do kill out of love that's his

00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:18.000
stance you know and uh that's when you know you

00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.099
we get the first flashback of of his childhood

00:22:21.099 --> 00:22:24.359
and now we really learn the story yeah at first

00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:25.819
it's all innocent because remember they're like

00:22:25.819 --> 00:22:27.259
she's teaching him how to paint when he's a little

00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:30.200
boy she's oh yeah she's drinking jmb so shout

00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.779
out to the shot of it she gives him a little

00:22:33.779 --> 00:22:36.849
bit of a drink of it i'm like okay A little strange.

00:22:37.390 --> 00:22:39.130
Yeah. It's, it's, and then, you know, they're

00:22:39.130 --> 00:22:41.089
getting kind of close and she's like hugging

00:22:41.089 --> 00:22:43.869
him and caressing him. And it's, it's, it's not

00:22:43.869 --> 00:22:46.930
weird yet, but you can see that, you know, she's

00:22:46.930 --> 00:22:49.289
kind of grooming him into, into something or

00:22:49.289 --> 00:22:51.789
maybe she doesn't see it that way. And he definitely

00:22:51.789 --> 00:22:53.309
doesn't see it that way, but it's definitely

00:22:53.309 --> 00:22:57.250
implied. And, you know, it cuts to him bringing

00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:59.829
home his first girlfriend. Yeah. He's already

00:22:59.829 --> 00:23:02.069
a teenager. Yeah. Yeah. We flash forward a little

00:23:02.069 --> 00:23:06.089
bit. And of course. the mom is pissed she's like

00:23:06.089 --> 00:23:07.890
fuck get this slut out of here like you know

00:23:07.890 --> 00:23:11.970
um basically berating him and he tries to hide

00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:14.490
the girl um but the mom's having no part of it

00:23:14.490 --> 00:23:29.680
she's like nah fuck that ¿Estás loco? ¿Qué quieres

00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.779
hacer? ¿Matarme? ¡Sácala de aquí! No, mamá. Comprende.

00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.680
Se peleó con sus padres. No tiene dónde ir, mamá.

00:23:36.700 --> 00:23:41.779
Por ciruja. Si se queda, tiene que morir. Y tú

00:23:41.779 --> 00:23:46.880
lo sabes. Lo sabes, ¿no? Nadie puede pasar aquí

00:23:46.880 --> 00:24:12.019
una noche y vivir. And the mom basically tells

00:24:12.019 --> 00:24:15.519
him, kill this bitch. Like, you have no other

00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.420
option. Kill this bitch. And he doesn't want

00:24:18.420 --> 00:24:20.500
to. He's like, no, I love her. She's my first

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:24.700
girlfriend. Yada, yada, yada. The typical 15

00:24:24.700 --> 00:24:28.990
-year -old in love type conversation. and um

00:24:28.990 --> 00:24:33.309
he he fucking does it yeah she brings the ax

00:24:33.309 --> 00:24:35.950
and hands it to him he has vision like he's like

00:24:35.950 --> 00:24:38.710
walks her he's trying he tries to hide her again

00:24:38.710 --> 00:24:41.509
and he's like having like there's visions of

00:24:41.509 --> 00:24:44.309
like it's intercut of him walking in through

00:24:44.309 --> 00:24:48.210
this like dungeon of a basement and uh visions

00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:50.289
of his mom tell him kill him kill him kill him

00:24:50.289 --> 00:24:54.700
and so he fucking you know axes her ass up and

00:24:54.700 --> 00:24:56.740
then the mom comes out and finishes the job and

00:24:56.740 --> 00:24:58.700
just starts fucking stab and this is where i

00:24:58.700 --> 00:25:00.680
say it's different from cycle four because cycle

00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.559
four doesn't get this gruesome uh the the violence

00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.099
in cycle four is kind of implied here nah this

00:25:06.099 --> 00:25:08.980
blood splurting everywhere like get blood on

00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:12.960
his face like it's crazy um and this is this

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.619
is like the the call that he's using to prove

00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.000
against dr perera that yeah you know what people

00:25:18.380 --> 00:25:20.759
kill out of love he loved this girl but he killed

00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:22.200
her anyways because he loved her he didn't want

00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.839
his mom i guess to fucking i don't know yeah

00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.380
you know she really you know he had to do it

00:25:29.380 --> 00:25:32.700
but you know being the doctor that he is the

00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:34.680
doctor's tripping fucking he's still arguing

00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.740
talking shit to him so pepe's like all right

00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:40.039
fuck you guys hangs up he wants no part of it

00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:43.700
um but of course nora you know she wants him

00:25:43.700 --> 00:25:45.579
to fucking you know they're getting good ratings

00:25:46.430 --> 00:25:48.809
get him back on the phone and that's the that's

00:25:48.809 --> 00:25:50.609
the shitty part about it because the whole time

00:25:50.609 --> 00:25:52.549
you know nora's trying to convince everyone that

00:25:52.549 --> 00:25:55.609
no i can help him i can help him meanwhile the

00:25:55.609 --> 00:25:58.150
producer his own fucking wife is like no we need

00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:01.029
the ratings our ratings are tanking dr perera's

00:26:01.029 --> 00:26:02.890
like no you guys are fucking crazy like call

00:26:02.890 --> 00:26:04.430
the cops on this idiot like what are you guys

00:26:04.430 --> 00:26:07.269
doing um and that's kind of the tug of war that

00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:09.529
we get throughout the entire shit right and then

00:26:09.529 --> 00:26:11.289
that point i think they don't even believe him

00:26:11.289 --> 00:26:13.069
to the oh maybe he's lying but then they're like

00:26:13.069 --> 00:26:14.980
no It's still good, you know. Well, that's how

00:26:14.980 --> 00:26:17.240
they get him to call back for the second time.

00:26:17.859 --> 00:26:21.339
And then they ask him about his dad. Now the

00:26:21.339 --> 00:26:23.799
doctor is trying to convince him that, well,

00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:27.380
maybe his dad was a shitty dad. And he's like,

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:30.160
no, man. You know, my dad was cool. I had a good

00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:31.660
relationship with him, but he died when I was

00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:34.019
young. And, of course, the mom couldn't take

00:26:34.019 --> 00:26:36.759
it. And that's when we see, like, they fucking

00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.700
bury the dad in the backyard of the house, which

00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:42.140
is fucking crazy. I mean, it's kind of common

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.539
over there, I guess. If they're on the property.

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.619
Yeah, I can see that. Sometimes. But it is a

00:26:47.619 --> 00:26:50.539
little weird, yeah. But this is, yeah. And this

00:26:50.539 --> 00:26:52.920
is where, you know, the mom starts developing

00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.099
her psych issues where she kind of starts going

00:26:56.099 --> 00:26:58.160
crazy because, you know, her dude just died.

00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:03.000
And this is where it's revealed that Sebastian

00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.759
is the killer. It's no longer Pepe. It's Sebastian.

00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:10.009
Well, he still goes by Pepe. But we know who

00:27:10.009 --> 00:27:12.470
the killer is at this point. Keep in mind, this

00:27:12.470 --> 00:27:16.130
is when he was cooking a turkey dinner. Yeah,

00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:18.609
and we'll figure out why he's cooking a little

00:27:18.609 --> 00:27:21.089
turkey dinner. And I will say, vegans beware.

00:27:21.890 --> 00:27:24.250
You're going to see a turkey get its fucking

00:27:24.250 --> 00:27:25.509
head chopped off. Before he calls, too, remember?

00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:28.289
Yeah. He kills the turkey. And you're like, oh,

00:27:28.289 --> 00:27:31.670
shit. I was caught by surprise. Oh, no. I got

00:27:31.670 --> 00:27:34.890
to add it to my for the animals list on Letterboxd.

00:27:34.970 --> 00:27:39.480
The dinner was getting prepared. But again, you

00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.420
know, he hangs up. They're trying to figure out

00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:43.400
what to do. You know, the doctor's telling him,

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.220
you know, call the fucking cops. This guy's crazy.

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:50.619
Like, you know, he calls back anyways. And now

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:53.380
he wants to talk about his most memorable kill.

00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:55.960
They're asking him like, you know, what do you

00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.319
remember about being, you know, a serial killer

00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.619
essentially. And, you know, this is when we get

00:28:03.619 --> 00:28:08.710
the scene of Amiga del Mama. Because he catches

00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:12.390
his mom, you know, getting drunk with another

00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:15.849
woman. And they're, you know, they're making

00:28:15.849 --> 00:28:19.450
out. But it's the 11th anniversary of the dad's

00:28:19.450 --> 00:28:22.789
death. So, you know, he's sad. He comes in thinking

00:28:22.789 --> 00:28:25.109
his mom should be sad. But she's out here macking

00:28:25.109 --> 00:28:29.750
it with another girl. And he can't take it. So

00:28:29.750 --> 00:28:31.730
he leaves. But the girl tries to seduce him.

00:28:32.250 --> 00:28:34.750
And so that's another female in his life, you

00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:38.220
know, older female. who, you know, is trying

00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:40.900
to use power over him to control him and seduce

00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:43.319
him. And he can't take it, so he just fucking

00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.380
kills her too. He grabs a knife and fucking stabs

00:28:46.380 --> 00:29:07.299
the shit out of her. Quiero saber más de ti.

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.859
Buenas tardes, señora. Usted y mi madre. ¿Tu

00:29:10.859 --> 00:29:22.680
madre? Tu madre puedo ser yo. ¿Qué te pasa? Sé

00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.599
más de lo que tú te imaginas. Así que vas a hacer

00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.079
lo que yo te diga. ¿Por qué no mejor se larga

00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.339
y deja de emborrachar a mi madre? Aprovechándose

00:29:33.339 --> 00:29:39.539
de ella. And I think this is where it turns where

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.339
you're starting to see, oh, okay, it's not that

00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:46.220
he is crazy. He actually really does love his

00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:47.940
mom. He killed her because he didn't want his

00:29:47.940 --> 00:29:50.940
mom to have another love in her life, you know?

00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.779
Which, of course, Dr. Panetta's all over that

00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:58.799
shit. He's like, that's my point, you know? That's

00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:03.579
exactly what I'm trying to say. But, you know,

00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.799
it is what it is. They just continue arguing

00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:11.000
and arguing. And, you know, I think this is when

00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:16.140
the show starts to kind of fall off the rails,

00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:18.880
right? Now they really don't know what to do.

00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.359
Diana has no idea it's her husband on the line,

00:30:21.420 --> 00:30:23.599
which in and of itself is crazy. How do you not

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.720
recognize your own husband's voice on the radio?

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.369
But they fucking, you know. They're losing him

00:30:31.369 --> 00:30:33.690
now. They think they might start losing ratings

00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:36.869
again. They're nervous that the calls aren't

00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:40.250
going to go anymore. Nah, fuck that. He calls

00:30:40.250 --> 00:30:42.849
back for the fourth time. Keep in mind, Diana's

00:30:42.849 --> 00:30:45.569
cousin, what's his name? He's listening to the

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:48.529
show. And he's kind of looking like, why does

00:30:48.529 --> 00:30:51.150
this sound familiar? And it turns out it's because

00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:53.849
he's the one that treated Sebastian. He doesn't

00:30:53.849 --> 00:30:55.210
know it yet. Yeah, he doesn't know it, but he's

00:30:55.210 --> 00:30:57.009
starting to. So as the movie's going on, we see

00:30:57.009 --> 00:30:59.559
Jorge Daniel driving. And he's just like making

00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.440
face like, wait, wait, wait, this is so familiar.

00:31:02.509 --> 00:31:04.710
What's going on? And that's the funny thing,

00:31:04.769 --> 00:31:07.329
too, because, like, you know, Jorge Reynosa is

00:31:07.329 --> 00:31:12.109
a huge, huge name. Yeah. And he really doesn't

00:31:12.109 --> 00:31:13.690
have much to do with it. He's literally just

00:31:13.690 --> 00:31:15.950
fucking driving from one hospital to the next.

00:31:16.009 --> 00:31:17.710
It's so funny. There's scenes where you don't

00:31:17.710 --> 00:31:20.069
even need to see him driving. Yeah. And he's

00:31:20.069 --> 00:31:22.150
just, and the funny, not the funny part, but

00:31:22.150 --> 00:31:23.930
he's driving. He's, like, smiling, listening

00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:25.750
to this. Like, yeah, this is a good fucking story.

00:31:25.930 --> 00:31:27.710
Like, you know. But then as soon as he starts

00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:28.809
hearing about the murder, he's like, I don't

00:31:28.809 --> 00:31:31.349
know. It's not familiar. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll

00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:32.849
get into that. soon because right because you

00:31:32.849 --> 00:31:37.710
know there's there's two more calls left um and

00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:41.069
now they want to know they want they trying to

00:31:41.069 --> 00:31:44.349
get pepe or sebastian to call back because they

00:31:44.349 --> 00:31:46.369
want to know what his relationship what his mom

00:31:46.369 --> 00:31:49.150
was like as i guess a quote -unquote teenager

00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:52.750
right and this is where it gets a little weird

00:31:52.750 --> 00:31:55.490
this is where we start to see oh no the mom was

00:31:55.490 --> 00:31:57.509
a fucking creep you know like she was definitely

00:31:57.509 --> 00:32:02.900
you know seducing him you know and uh she says

00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:05.819
you know she was always wanting to date younger

00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:08.259
men after the dad died because she wanted to

00:32:08.259 --> 00:32:11.779
keep that kind of control over men um but you

00:32:11.779 --> 00:32:13.740
see him like she's like you know caressing him

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:18.039
even more and fucking she finally has a new boyfriend

00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.640
who is an abusive asshole who beats the shit

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.480
out of her and this fool pepe doesn't want that

00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.259
you know um So he fucking kills that motherfucker

00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:31.519
too. I mean, rightfully so. He kind of had to.

00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:36.019
That guy was a complete dick. How many times

00:32:36.019 --> 00:32:38.019
have you heard that story in a movie of a younger

00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:42.299
dude messing with an older single mom who was

00:32:42.299 --> 00:32:47.670
just a completely asshole to her? But yeah, you

00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:49.849
know, she tells she tells Pepe that he's fucking

00:32:49.849 --> 00:32:52.829
the only way that he can love her is if he continues

00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:55.450
to kill. So he grabs a fire log or like a starter

00:32:55.450 --> 00:32:58.769
log from the chimney, beats the fuck out of him,

00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:01.289
doesn't die yet. But, you know, it sets it up

00:33:01.289 --> 00:33:05.190
for the mom to come in and finish the job. And

00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:10.869
she has this weird like fascination with being

00:33:10.869 --> 00:33:13.119
young. And this is where she starts to tell it,

00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:14.680
where she's like, I'm still in the prime of my

00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.759
life. Even though she's at this point, I mean,

00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:18.000
I don't know how old she is. She's got to be

00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.220
like in her late 40s. And since she's an artist

00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:20.700
member, since she's on that time, she's like

00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:22.940
drawing her, but looking young. Exactly. And

00:33:22.940 --> 00:33:25.019
this is that scene. She's like obsessed with

00:33:25.019 --> 00:33:27.599
being young. And so she goes on the bed and she's

00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.119
wearing this like blue silk nightie, like nightgown.

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.460
It's like, draw me. And she's like posing on

00:33:33.460 --> 00:33:35.339
her bed. And he's like, all right. So he's drawing

00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:37.319
her. She gets a little mad because he doesn't

00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:41.950
draw her as young as she sees herself. Then she

00:33:41.950 --> 00:33:44.269
tells him, get on the bed. He's like, oh shit.

00:33:44.549 --> 00:33:48.670
This is where the incest comes in. She starts

00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:52.009
telling him, touch my skin. This is what youthful

00:33:52.009 --> 00:34:02.029
skin feels like. They start macking it. For lack

00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:08.789
of a better word, they fuck. You're just like,

00:34:08.809 --> 00:34:13.530
fuck, this is nasty. Psycho 4 could never. Oh,

00:34:13.530 --> 00:34:16.389
yeah. Psycho 4, remember, there are scenes where

00:34:16.389 --> 00:34:19.190
she's touching him a little bit weird. Yeah,

00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:22.989
but I think the difference of Psycho 4 and Obsesión

00:34:22.989 --> 00:34:26.730
de Matar is that Obsesión clearly wants you to

00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:28.929
know that it's an incestual relationship, whereas

00:34:28.929 --> 00:34:32.619
Psycho 4 is more like she's... a dominant figure

00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:34.940
over him she wants to control him not that she

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:36.800
wants to fuck him but that she wants to control

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.599
him and make sure that he you know she's got

00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.940
him under her thumb or whatever um because now

00:34:44.940 --> 00:34:49.199
you know they uh this and at this point that's

00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.880
the story where Jaime Jorge Reynosa's character

00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.610
realizes oh shit i know who this is yeah he starts

00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:57.590
to realize but he doesn't want to say it so he

00:34:57.590 --> 00:34:59.550
calls into the radio show i was like yo i think

00:34:59.550 --> 00:35:05.449
i know who this is like you know um but pepe

00:35:05.449 --> 00:35:07.989
calls back now this is the final the final phone

00:35:07.989 --> 00:35:09.809
call that they have right this is going to set

00:35:09.809 --> 00:35:14.510
up the uh um the final act of the movie if you

00:35:14.510 --> 00:35:16.849
will so when he finally calls in they want to

00:35:16.849 --> 00:35:20.789
know what happened to his mom and so he goes

00:35:20.789 --> 00:35:24.019
in and he starts talking about how he killed

00:35:24.019 --> 00:35:28.780
his mom and why and turns out that faithful night

00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:32.039
when she asked him to draw and they messed around

00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.500
he got her pregnant and that is his obsession

00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:39.119
with his wife in the beginning of the movie asking

00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.340
her to you know to have a child um that's where

00:35:43.340 --> 00:35:46.400
this comes from because you know the mom tells

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.150
him like i i don't want I don't want this kid

00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:51.650
to be born and be evil and, you know, whatever,

00:35:51.809 --> 00:35:53.710
whatever. And, you know, we got to save the world

00:35:53.710 --> 00:35:56.309
of this evil between us and, you know, all the,

00:35:56.309 --> 00:35:57.929
all the killings that we've been doing. Not that

00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:00.110
she's remorseful about it, but I, I mean, I guess

00:36:00.110 --> 00:36:02.949
apparently she, she doesn't want the cycle of

00:36:02.949 --> 00:36:08.650
evil to continue. So she fucking lays herself

00:36:08.650 --> 00:36:11.929
down and he. decapitates her she literally tells

00:36:11.929 --> 00:36:13.909
him to do it she tells him to do it again controlling

00:36:13.909 --> 00:36:16.690
dominating him the whole the whole movie she

00:36:16.690 --> 00:36:19.070
lays down and he the same axe that he used to

00:36:19.070 --> 00:36:21.929
kill his girlfriend in the beginning fucking

00:36:21.929 --> 00:36:26.389
chops his mom's head off and that's when Jaime's

00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:29.309
like yeah hell yeah like this is this is this

00:36:29.309 --> 00:36:42.710
is him for sure Do you realize? A sick man. A

00:36:42.710 --> 00:36:47.710
monster. You have to avoid it. I'm still your

00:36:47.710 --> 00:36:53.750
mother. And you have to obey me. It's for the

00:36:53.750 --> 00:37:01.190
good of all. Kill me. If you love me, you have

00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:28.150
to do it. Estamos enfermos. Malditos. Quiéreme

00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:58.809
siempre. So now we cut to Jaime because Diana

00:37:58.809 --> 00:38:01.429
has to get home. It is in the middle of the radio

00:38:01.429 --> 00:38:03.949
show, like no regard for what's actually happening.

00:38:03.949 --> 00:38:06.329
All the talk about the ratings that, you know,

00:38:06.329 --> 00:38:09.489
we can't tank the ratings. She's like, I got

00:38:09.489 --> 00:38:12.869
to go home. It's my birthday. I'm going to dinner.

00:38:13.630 --> 00:38:17.090
So she's fucking gone and Jaime can't get her.

00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:21.920
In the version that I watched, this is where

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.659
it cuts to commercial. I sent Joey the TV version

00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:29.840
that I copied a long time ago. Which I will say,

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.500
man, Mexican TV is fucking goaded because there's

00:38:32.500 --> 00:38:36.119
no edits to the blood, to the killing, the sex,

00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.820
the nudity. Everything was there, yeah. Everything

00:38:39.820 --> 00:38:44.059
is there. That's funny that you mentioned that.

00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:45.519
That's literally where it cuts. That's literally

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.329
where it cuts, yeah. But anyways, to get back

00:38:50.329 --> 00:38:53.690
to the story, Jaime calls to get Diana to tell

00:38:53.690 --> 00:38:56.230
her, hey, this is your fucking husband. Nora

00:38:56.230 --> 00:38:58.130
tells him, hey, Beryl, you're too late. She already

00:38:58.130 --> 00:39:04.190
went home. So now he has to get back to Diana's

00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:09.409
house to save her from her husband. Dinner's

00:39:09.409 --> 00:39:12.329
ready. Dinner's ready. Now, the key to the dinner

00:39:12.329 --> 00:39:15.389
is that the dinner that he was cooking for his

00:39:15.389 --> 00:39:18.579
wife, was the same dinner that they were having

00:39:18.579 --> 00:39:21.059
the night that his mom told him to kill her.

00:39:21.699 --> 00:39:23.840
And so that's, you know, that's the little tie

00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.280
-in there. That's why they made such a big thing

00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.980
about it. Because the entire time, for each flashback

00:39:28.980 --> 00:39:30.739
call that he has, he's cooking dinner. You see

00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:34.059
him fucking cutting the head off. He's de -feathering

00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:36.019
the chicken. You know, he's fucking pulling all

00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:37.860
the guts out. Like, you see all of him. And you're

00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:39.360
kind of just like, why the fuck do I care about

00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.000
this fool cooking dinner? But, you know, that's

00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:49.159
the tie -in there. yeah so he fucking uh you

00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.679
know sebastian kidnaps diana takes him back to

00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.360
the childhood home where he fucking did all his

00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:57.320
killing yeah the house is still still up and

00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:04.059
standing um and you know he starts to have visions

00:40:04.059 --> 00:40:06.800
of his mom again and so he's he's full -blown

00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.699
crazy diana's like yo like i'm pregnant but i'll

00:40:10.699 --> 00:40:14.900
you know i'll have an abortion and Of course,

00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.519
he doesn't want that. There's this whole battle

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.760
of wanting the kid and I don't want the kid.

00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.420
Typical abortion. It gets worse. The abortion

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:28.780
line gets worse. I'll tell you the last line

00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:34.420
of the movie when we get there. Jaime shows up,

00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.719
saves the day. It's the exact same thing as Psycho

00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.409
4. lights torches the house up the memories of

00:40:43.409 --> 00:40:45.230
your mom are gone you know you're you're now

00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:48.090
saved you know he's not he's no longer a psycho

00:40:48.090 --> 00:40:51.829
and he shows him the mom yeah his body yep this

00:40:51.829 --> 00:40:53.949
fool has been hiding his mom's body in the basement

00:40:53.949 --> 00:40:57.130
of the old house in a car in a in a yeah in a

00:40:57.130 --> 00:41:01.010
coffin um So they're like, yeah, fuck that. All

00:41:01.010 --> 00:41:04.610
the post -trauma. Typical Mexican way of handling

00:41:04.610 --> 00:41:07.690
fucking childhood trauma, right? Like, get over

00:41:07.690 --> 00:41:09.769
this shit, bro. You're like, what are you doing,

00:41:09.989 --> 00:41:14.869
bro? She's dead. Like, get over it. And so, you

00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.150
know, there's this whole ending where Diana's

00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:19.030
talking to Jaime, who's her cousin. Like, you

00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:22.070
know, I guess I'm just going to have this fucking

00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:25.050
abortion. I don't want to have another child

00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:28.940
and, you know, to come out like Sebastian. And

00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:33.099
Jaime goes, nah, it's God's will for you to have

00:41:33.099 --> 00:41:36.559
this child. You can't have an abortion. I knew

00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.059
they were going to have to do that. There's no

00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:41.239
way they were going to be like, yeah, you're

00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.420
going to have this. Which is fucking crazy, right?

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.860
It's like, you know, typical Mexican shit. You're

00:42:04.860 --> 00:42:06.840
pregnant. Sorry, bro. You're having this. She's

00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.699
barely pregnant. It's not like she's like already

00:42:08.699 --> 00:42:10.380
showing or anything. It's like she just barely

00:42:10.380 --> 00:42:13.079
found. Yeah. And it's like, come on, dude. Like

00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:18.840
all this talk about how. The trauma field this

00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.860
fool, his desires to kill and all this shit.

00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:25.019
And you want that trauma to go on to the baby?

00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:27.760
To possibly develop into being another serial

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.760
killer? Nah, bro. God wants you to have this

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.360
child. Which is fucking crazy, man. I'm sure

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.400
that was Ismael's dad's idea. We gotta give him

00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.340
a moral here. Because every movie of Ismael,

00:42:42.539 --> 00:42:46.050
his dad. It always had to have some kind of like

00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:49.849
happy ending and like a moral lesson. So I think

00:42:49.849 --> 00:42:53.110
this was kind of it right here. Ismail Jr. was

00:42:53.110 --> 00:42:54.510
probably like, no, we're going to end it brutally.

00:42:54.670 --> 00:42:56.989
Like, no, no, son, you're going to end this with

00:42:56.989 --> 00:43:01.230
a moral. You're going to end this on good terms.

00:43:01.409 --> 00:43:03.530
Yeah. Give the people something good, lighthearted

00:43:03.530 --> 00:43:06.340
to hear. That's how I see it, at least, because

00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:09.940
that was really weird. I 100 % believe you, honestly,

00:43:10.059 --> 00:43:11.800
because it's so far out of left field. Yeah,

00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.139
after everything that's happened. And, yeah,

00:43:14.219 --> 00:43:16.619
and it literally is the last word said in the

00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:18.280
movie is, nah, it's God's will. You're not having

00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.159
an abortion. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that smells

00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:26.340
bad. That smells bad right there. 100%. So, I

00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:29.219
mean, this is wild. And, again, it actually goes

00:43:29.219 --> 00:43:31.420
for it, which is what I like about this fucking

00:43:31.420 --> 00:43:36.750
movie. There's no holding back. It gets wild.

00:43:37.030 --> 00:43:39.889
You're seeing titties on screen. The blood is

00:43:39.889 --> 00:43:44.730
there. Again, this whole anti -abortion angle

00:43:44.730 --> 00:43:49.710
that pops up out of nowhere. It goes exactly

00:43:49.710 --> 00:43:52.050
where an American movie would never go. And that's

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:55.210
why I think it works and it actually plays better

00:43:55.210 --> 00:43:57.989
than Psycho 4. Because it's only two years removed.

00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:00.070
So I'm sure they saw Psycho 4 and was like, yo,

00:44:00.110 --> 00:44:02.750
that's dope, but let's make it crazier. And,

00:44:02.829 --> 00:44:04.530
of course, Veronica wrote it. So Veronica was

00:44:04.530 --> 00:44:07.090
like, I could do it better. I mean, you know.

00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:11.369
Did Mick Harris write Cycle 4 as well? I don't

00:44:11.369 --> 00:44:13.789
know. No, I don't believe he did, no. He directed

00:44:13.789 --> 00:44:16.730
it only, if I recall. Either then, like I said,

00:44:16.789 --> 00:44:20.170
yeah. Some weak writers there. I mean, it's typical,

00:44:20.349 --> 00:44:22.550
you know. I don't know, man. You know, whatever.

00:44:22.650 --> 00:44:25.469
It is what it is. Watch Cycle 4 and then watch

00:44:25.469 --> 00:44:27.550
Obsesión de Matar. It's funny because when I

00:44:27.550 --> 00:44:29.449
first saw Obsesión de Matar, I was just like.

00:44:29.789 --> 00:44:31.929
Why isn't this movie familiar? Like, I've seen

00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:35.289
this, right? And then it didn't dawn on me until,

00:44:35.329 --> 00:44:36.650
like, they were on the radio show. I was like,

00:44:36.769 --> 00:44:41.409
this is fucking Psycho 4. Straight up. And then

00:44:41.409 --> 00:44:42.869
I started reading, like, because I didn't see

00:44:42.869 --> 00:44:45.309
Psycho 4, like, beforehand. I only knew about

00:44:45.309 --> 00:44:47.469
it. I was like, this is it. And then when I watched

00:44:47.469 --> 00:44:49.630
Psycho 4, I was like, okay, this is a fucking

00:44:49.630 --> 00:44:54.050
movie. Just sleazy. Super sleazy. So, yeah, the

00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:55.949
alternative. If you didn't like Psycho 4, but

00:44:55.949 --> 00:44:58.150
you like the story, you know, just put on a percent

00:44:58.150 --> 00:45:01.500
of my thumb. better i think people would like

00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:04.059
this better this is like this has potential for

00:45:04.059 --> 00:45:06.820
blu -ray release oh one thousand percent i'm

00:45:06.820 --> 00:45:09.079
actually like does that like a blu -ray release

00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.059
oh yeah this would do wonders people would be

00:45:11.059 --> 00:45:13.039
like oh shit this is actually cool if they knew

00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:14.780
about it i mean most people it's actually pretty

00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:16.969
unknown still surprisingly Like, not a lot of

00:45:16.969 --> 00:45:18.269
people know about it. Even, like, the cover.

00:45:18.369 --> 00:45:21.849
Like, so, we have the video right here. From

00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:24.789
Mix Cinema, by the way. And it's fucking crazy.

00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:26.989
Sebastian's got blood coming from his forehead.

00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:29.530
He's choking Diana out. He has the hatchet on

00:45:29.530 --> 00:45:31.889
his hand. Yeah, and Jorge Reynoso with his fucking,

00:45:31.969 --> 00:45:34.409
his six -shooter. Looking badass. Did he even

00:45:34.409 --> 00:45:37.250
have a gun in him? You know, huh? No. He was

00:45:37.250 --> 00:45:39.250
just driving around the whole fucking... I don't

00:45:39.250 --> 00:45:40.630
even have a gun in him, but yeah, he's in the

00:45:40.630 --> 00:45:43.889
cover. But, yeah, that's a great one. I mean...

00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:45.650
I hope people, you know, when they're listening

00:45:45.650 --> 00:45:47.250
to this, they get interested, they watch it.

00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:50.210
So, again, check the show notes. Hopefully you...

00:45:50.210 --> 00:45:52.949
I will have the movie there for you all to watch.

00:45:53.369 --> 00:45:55.369
Please watch it. Let us know what you think.

00:45:55.809 --> 00:45:58.269
And hopefully you actually watched it before

00:45:58.269 --> 00:46:02.130
listening because I just gave you a literal scene

00:46:02.130 --> 00:46:05.610
-by -scene breakdown. And you can compare it

00:46:05.610 --> 00:46:08.789
to Psycho 4 and tell us which one is better,

00:46:08.869 --> 00:46:14.599
Psycho 4 or Obsesión de Matar. but wild man these

00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.079
fucking overbearing mothers man they gotta go

00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:18.739
i was glad we thought i thought about that i

00:46:18.739 --> 00:46:22.340
was like perfect yeah this is this was this was

00:46:22.340 --> 00:46:24.639
better than than the original idea that we had

00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.719
so i'm glad we did this one too but uh you partnered

00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.980
it up with a movie from 1994 um which is equally

00:46:31.980 --> 00:46:36.119
as sleazy but maybe a little bit more maybe maybe

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:59.389
and that is uh 1994 esclavas del sadismo There

00:46:59.389 --> 00:47:01.230
was an alternate title though. Yeah. When I watched

00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:03.530
it. Yeah. That was the one that I have on video.

00:47:04.829 --> 00:47:07.349
Encadenadas. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I have

00:47:07.349 --> 00:47:09.909
it. I used to have the Esclavas del Sadismo tape

00:47:09.909 --> 00:47:11.590
too, but that was the one that I sent you the

00:47:11.590 --> 00:47:14.969
other one. Yeah. And yeah. So Esclavas del Sadismo,

00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:18.869
which is what? Slaves of Sadism. Yeah. In English.

00:47:20.210 --> 00:47:23.150
Or Chained to Desire, which I think actually

00:47:23.150 --> 00:47:26.909
works better as a title for this movie. So from

00:47:26.909 --> 00:47:29.750
1994, and it was directed by a very legendary

00:47:29.750 --> 00:47:32.489
guy. I mean, we had to make an episode of him

00:47:32.489 --> 00:47:35.289
one day. Christian Gonzalez, the king of the

00:47:35.289 --> 00:47:38.079
video homes, as they called him. And I actually

00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.579
talked to him before online. I never got to really

00:47:40.579 --> 00:47:42.280
meet him in person, but I did talk to him online.

00:47:42.460 --> 00:47:44.199
Even to the point where we had a Skype session.

00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.079
Nice. That's how you know how old he was. Yeah,

00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.440
he was super cool. Because this is when I first

00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.519
started to know about him. I added him on Facebook.

00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.639
And he was pretty fascinating. His wife, Patricia,

00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:56.539
who's in the movie. We'll get to her in a moment.

00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:58.800
She introduced us. She's like, hey, you guys

00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.340
should talk about his work. And yeah, he was

00:48:02.340 --> 00:48:04.199
super cool. I remember him telling me about this

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.880
movie, his other stuff. He's like, no, don't

00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.380
watch Clone to Hitler. That shit sucks. I only

00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:11.920
did it for money. He was a super cool guy and

00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:15.739
unfortunately he passed away in 2021. But like

00:48:15.739 --> 00:48:18.099
I said, over the years since I've talked to him

00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:20.420
and known about his work, he's a fucking legendary.

00:48:21.610 --> 00:48:24.190
He was originally studying economics, but he

00:48:24.190 --> 00:48:26.150
dropped out to study filmmaking because when

00:48:26.150 --> 00:48:28.289
he was growing up as a teenager, he loved filmmaking.

00:48:28.389 --> 00:48:31.030
He had an 8mm camera, which kind of ties into

00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:34.050
this movie. Oh, yeah. That's actually one of

00:48:34.050 --> 00:48:37.650
my notes I wrote down. He had an 8mm camera when

00:48:37.650 --> 00:48:39.670
he was a teenager, so he would like to shoot

00:48:39.670 --> 00:48:43.389
stuff around. So, yeah, he wanted to be in filmmaking.

00:48:43.550 --> 00:48:45.469
That's what he was really wanting to do with

00:48:45.469 --> 00:48:49.199
his life. And he was on the rise of being like,

00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.320
you know, like Alfonso Cuarón and Inurato, all

00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.039
those guys. Like he was growing in that same

00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.199
era from those guys. Amores Perros Volume 2.

00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.179
Right. He could have been one of those guys making

00:48:59.179 --> 00:49:01.500
those movies. Like he made a movie called Tanatos,

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.260
which did really good. That was his first movie.

00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.139
And it was like pretty experimental, but it got

00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:09.380
well received. And then he did another one called

00:49:09.380 --> 00:49:12.019
Polvo de Luz. Polvo de Luz was another like prestigious

00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:15.320
kind of film, kind of forgotten now though. But

00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.960
then after a while, he just kind of got bored

00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.440
of it. I remember reading in interviews, he just

00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.840
wanted to do crazy shit. He had ideas that were

00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.639
beyond that artsy shit. He wanted to make movies

00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.539
about the real Mexico, as he called it, like

00:49:29.539 --> 00:49:33.119
the working class. And the only way he was going

00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:34.780
to be able to get that freedom was making video

00:49:34.780 --> 00:49:36.539
homes. So that's kind of how he got involved.

00:49:36.699 --> 00:49:39.980
So he got involved in video homes, like close

00:49:39.980 --> 00:49:43.239
to 200. and he would shoot them on shoestring

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.960
budgets no budgets just shit people would borrow

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.900
borrow their time supposedly he made one movie

00:49:49.900 --> 00:49:53.659
in one day damn supposedly i don't know if that's

00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:55.619
true but supposedly he made a movie in one day

00:49:55.619 --> 00:49:58.760
and yeah and then stuff like this like he made

00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:00.940
crazy fucking movies this is one of his probably

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:03.840
top ones i would feel And then another one called

00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.880
Imperio de los Malditos. We got to talk about

00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.639
that one. That one's fucking amazing. Yeah, I

00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.940
wasn't familiar. This was the only movie title

00:50:09.940 --> 00:50:12.460
of his that I knew of. I had never seen this

00:50:12.460 --> 00:50:14.760
until you sent it to me, but I have not seen

00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:15.840
any of his other... He's made some of the most

00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.960
best fucking movies. I got to show you his other

00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.679
movies. He's a fucking great director. A lot

00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.599
of his movies have to do with shit like this,

00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:27.280
like crazy people, sexual freaks, crime, stuff

00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.159
like that. He was never the type to make movies

00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.199
that were normal. He wanted it to be fucking

00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.159
crazy as much as it could, and that's how he

00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.219
got away with it. But yeah, so back to Esclavas

00:50:38.219 --> 00:50:41.820
del Sadismo of 1994. It was shot on 35mm, I know

00:50:41.820 --> 00:50:44.980
that. It got a short theatrical run in the indie

00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:49.199
scene. Imagine a disc with a double Amores Perros.

00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:54.420
What the fuck is this? Yeah, it's pretty standard.

00:50:54.500 --> 00:50:57.019
I mean, it's just about this weird guy named

00:50:57.019 --> 00:50:59.679
Leo. He lives in an apartment building with his

00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.369
mom that she manages. the mom's kind of like

00:51:02.369 --> 00:51:05.070
i don't know she's just weird she's just there

00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:07.469
just kind of lets him do whatever he wants you

00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:09.050
know in the basement because that's where leo

00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:12.050
does his movies he always has a camera on him

00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:13.789
he tells his mom like yeah i'm gonna make a movie

00:51:13.789 --> 00:51:16.690
later and like okay and then they're like and

00:51:16.690 --> 00:51:17.829
then you're just wondering like what the does

00:51:17.829 --> 00:51:33.829
he do exactly Pero solo admito matrimonios. Y

00:51:33.829 --> 00:51:37.809
para algunas señoritas también. Es Leo, mi hijo.

00:51:39.869 --> 00:51:42.090
A mi mamá no le gusta que vivan aquí mujeres

00:51:42.090 --> 00:51:46.670
solas. Por algunas malas experiencias que hemos

00:51:46.670 --> 00:51:54.269
tenido. No se ofenda, por favor. Pero ahora,

00:51:54.389 --> 00:52:01.960
si usted lo desea, el departamento es suyo. Turns

00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.219
out he makes underground porn films in the basement.

00:52:05.300 --> 00:52:07.780
Oh, yeah. With girls that he kidnaps at night.

00:52:07.860 --> 00:52:10.960
And he drugs. If that sounds familiar, it's almost

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.260
like sinful torture. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he drugs

00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:17.760
the girls. He drugs a nurse, which is one of

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.389
the most memorable scenes of the movie. Not only

00:52:20.389 --> 00:52:23.030
that, the nurse was played by Christian's wife,

00:52:23.190 --> 00:52:26.070
Patricia Rojas. That was his wife. That scene

00:52:26.070 --> 00:52:28.210
stuck out to me because it reminded me of the

00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:30.829
scene in Maniac where Joe Spinell is following

00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:33.909
the nurse into the train station. That's interesting

00:52:33.909 --> 00:52:35.730
because you know what? He might have even got

00:52:35.730 --> 00:52:37.710
inspired by that because he would love to watch

00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:39.809
movies like that, like horror movies, classics,

00:52:40.110 --> 00:52:42.269
cult classics. I would not doubt that it was

00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:44.789
an exact ripoff. Oh, yeah. He definitely had

00:52:44.789 --> 00:52:46.809
ideas like that. Whatever he would watch, he

00:52:46.809 --> 00:52:48.829
would get those ideas. Yeah, yeah. So I wouldn't

00:52:48.829 --> 00:52:51.880
be surprised. so yeah he kidnaps women at night

00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.800
and then um you know this prostitute she rents

00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.099
a room in the apartment building her name is

00:52:58.099 --> 00:53:01.659
maida she's played by i didn't even get her name

00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:04.679
alicia laguna here we go alicia laguna yeah she

00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:06.840
rents the room but it's not even her painted

00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:11.090
it's her uh Secret boyfriend. He's played by

00:53:11.090 --> 00:53:14.210
a cop named Bustamante. Jorge Reynoso is playing

00:53:14.210 --> 00:53:16.630
him, by the way. And they have a funny relationship

00:53:16.630 --> 00:53:18.469
because, you know, he's married, he has kids.

00:53:18.690 --> 00:53:21.309
You know, she knows. She's cool about it for

00:53:21.309 --> 00:53:23.710
the most part. But she also wants something real,

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:26.179
you know? Yeah. He keeps telling her, like, well,

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:28.519
he keeps lying to her. That's the one thing.

00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.420
Everyone in this movie is a piece of shit. I

00:53:33.420 --> 00:53:35.300
will say that. There's not a single good person

00:53:35.300 --> 00:53:37.099
in this movie. I mean, that's the Christian Gonzalez

00:53:37.099 --> 00:53:39.440
style. That's the one thing I learned about him.

00:53:39.460 --> 00:53:41.219
Every movie that he's ever made, everyone in

00:53:41.219 --> 00:53:43.199
the movies, they're always shitty people. They're

00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.699
never good people. And that's just how he liked

00:53:45.699 --> 00:53:47.519
to do movies. He wanted his characters to be

00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.219
fucking good. Even better, dude. I loved it,

00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.260
yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Bustamante, he's, like,

00:53:52.260 --> 00:53:53.699
promising Mayra. He's like, you know, we're going

00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:55.360
to get our own place eventually, you know, but

00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.659
right now I'm with my wife. You know, right now

00:53:58.659 --> 00:54:01.159
we're just secret lovers. Like he just gives

00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.219
her this bullshit. He's an asshole. Cause he

00:54:03.219 --> 00:54:04.800
tells her like, no, you're, I don't want you

00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:06.800
dancing. Like you're, you're, you're better than

00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.199
being a stripper at this fucking club. He's just,

00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.380
yeah, he just, he didn't mean that shit. He's

00:54:11.380 --> 00:54:13.260
getting his dick sucked in the, in the alley

00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:16.800
and shit. And she tries her best to please them

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.579
too. And then he's kind of like, whatever. I

00:54:19.579 --> 00:54:20.800
don't know, it's weird. Like, why did he want

00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.400
her so much? It's so stupid. Typical, man. Typical,

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:45.579
typical machismo. Este amor que estamos empezando

00:54:45.579 --> 00:54:50.639
tú y yo tiene que empezar desde chiquito. Poco

00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:55.539
a poco irlo haciendo grande, consistente y duro.

00:54:56.380 --> 00:54:58.980
Pues para que penetre directamente en nuestros

00:54:58.980 --> 00:55:03.159
corazones un buen rato. Ay, ahora me saliste

00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.800
poeta, pues al gusto. ¿Qué pasó, mi vida? Amado

00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.519
Nervo. ¿Vamos por tus cosas? ¿Pero vas a venir

00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.300
hoy en la noche? Voy a hacer todo lo posible.

00:55:13.849 --> 00:55:15.769
Yeah, eventually Alicia starts to kind of develop

00:55:15.769 --> 00:55:17.849
feelings for Leo. Like, she sees Leo and she

00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:19.650
thinks he's, like, fascinating. Like, he's so

00:55:19.650 --> 00:55:21.989
mysterious since he's just kind of wandering

00:55:21.989 --> 00:55:24.570
around dressed in black. He kind of has, like,

00:55:24.590 --> 00:55:26.489
a goth or punk style, if I may say. Oh, yeah,

00:55:26.489 --> 00:55:29.329
yeah, yeah. And Leo is just, you know, he kind

00:55:29.329 --> 00:55:30.869
of notices, but he doesn't care because he's

00:55:30.869 --> 00:55:33.090
so fucking busy making, you know, his movies

00:55:33.090 --> 00:55:36.389
in the basement of the apartment building. And

00:55:36.389 --> 00:55:38.050
that's pretty much how the movie goes. And then

00:55:38.050 --> 00:55:40.289
he sells the porno movies to this, like, porn

00:55:40.289 --> 00:55:43.880
filmmaker or producer, like, in the city. Then

00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.940
the cops get involved, you know, and that's when

00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:48.280
they all find out, you know, this shit's going

00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.360
on. There's all these kind of crazy girls in

00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:51.980
the basement. They're all drugged up and dressed

00:55:51.980 --> 00:55:55.500
in these scantily clothings or costumes. Really

00:55:55.500 --> 00:55:58.360
fucking weird scenes, too. There's like I mean,

00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.559
there's scenes where like, again, everyone here

00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.440
is a piece of shit. And, you know, I'll give

00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:08.500
you a couple reasons why. Right. So when Busta

00:56:08.500 --> 00:56:11.420
Montes and his partner, I think his name was

00:56:11.420 --> 00:56:14.260
Davila. Yeah. who was played by Guillermo Quintanilla,

00:56:14.340 --> 00:56:17.340
they were tasked with finding out, you know,

00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:19.980
finding these missing women. So they go bust

00:56:19.980 --> 00:56:24.159
a prostitution ring and, you know, they catch

00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.800
a bunch of girls and they catch underage girls.

00:56:27.539 --> 00:56:29.400
And his partner's like, hey, you know, get the

00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:30.960
fuck out of here. Like, how old are you? Like,

00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:34.519
oh, you're not 16. Oh, I'm 15. Get the fuck out

00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.059
of here. Well, they go back and bust those fools

00:56:37.059 --> 00:56:41.550
again. And he sees her in the second raid. And

00:56:41.550 --> 00:56:45.250
he goes, how old are you? I'm 15. Nah, baby,

00:56:45.369 --> 00:56:47.369
you're 18. And then he starts fucking macking

00:56:47.369 --> 00:56:49.170
it with her. It's like, bro, what are you doing?

00:56:50.670 --> 00:56:53.690
Yeah, I'm telling you. Shady cops, bro. Shady

00:56:53.690 --> 00:56:55.250
fucking cops. Once you watch more Christian Gonzalez

00:56:55.250 --> 00:56:56.889
movies, you're going to be like, yeah, everyone's

00:56:56.889 --> 00:56:59.110
a piece of shit in this movie. Dude. That's a

00:56:59.110 --> 00:57:01.590
perfect example right there. He just loved making

00:57:01.590 --> 00:57:04.820
his characters like that. Nobody was likable

00:57:04.820 --> 00:57:06.840
in those movies. Even if you did like them, they're

00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:10.320
still pieces of shit. Absolutely. Yeah, everyone

00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:33.320
in those movies is a piece of shit. ¿Sabes qué,

00:57:33.340 --> 00:57:38.559
muñequita? Yo no sé por qué, chingados. El destino

00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:41.960
de las putas y los codiciales siempre es el mismo.

00:57:42.820 --> 00:57:49.320
Se cruzan. Y yo no sé por qué. Pero creo una

00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:54.860
cosa. Tal vez porque ustedes dan placer y nosotros

00:57:54.860 --> 00:58:01.510
damos chingarazos. ¿No sabes qué? Creo que nuestros

00:58:01.510 --> 00:58:06.670
destinos ya se cruzaron. ¿Cuántos años tienes?

00:58:07.469 --> 00:58:11.510
15. A partir de ahora tienes 18, ¿está bien?

00:58:13.329 --> 00:58:16.510
¿Cuántos años tienes? 15. ¡Como una chingada!

00:58:16.550 --> 00:58:19.750
¡Te estoy diciendo que 18! ¡18! ¿Cuántos tienes?

00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.099
So that's pretty much how the movie is. It's

00:58:23.099 --> 00:58:25.500
just sleaze after sleaze after sleaze, and then

00:58:25.500 --> 00:58:28.880
there's kind of a horror -esque or mystery angle

00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.869
to it when they go to the basement. there's the

00:58:31.869 --> 00:58:33.730
scenes where they're like you know on the strap

00:58:33.730 --> 00:58:35.849
-ons and stuff with the you know with the girls

00:58:35.849 --> 00:58:38.090
and everything underground so when i was watching

00:58:38.090 --> 00:58:39.809
this i had my volume up kind of loud because

00:58:39.809 --> 00:58:41.969
i was doing i was doing like my laundry and shit

00:58:41.969 --> 00:58:43.650
i was like folding clothes yeah i was like oh

00:58:43.650 --> 00:58:45.610
shit i had a lower because it was like girls

00:58:45.610 --> 00:58:49.570
were like uh dude they were like dude finger

00:58:49.570 --> 00:58:52.510
banging like moaning like crazy well here's the

00:58:52.510 --> 00:59:18.340
clip yeah i had that at volume uh my my my my

00:59:18.340 --> 00:59:21.380
little soundbar shit goes to 10 i had it at volume

00:59:21.380 --> 00:59:24.739
8 and it was like 10 at night i was like oh shit

00:59:24.739 --> 00:59:26.199
i was like trying to lower it make sure no one

00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:31.199
no one thinks i'm over here watching pornos and

00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.019
he was filming it like you said on a super 8

00:59:33.019 --> 00:59:36.500
the canon 814 auto zoom i have the exact camera

00:59:36.500 --> 00:59:40.280
super 8 camera i love it yeah great camera yeah

00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:42.380
this is a great one and like i said the relationship

00:59:42.380 --> 00:59:44.800
with his mom like the mom is kind of there and

00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:46.099
she just doesn't do whatever she doesn't even

00:59:46.099 --> 00:59:48.280
care she just she just wants to get the money

00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:50.119
you know because he gets paid obviously for you

00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.940
know selling those movies She just lets him do

00:59:52.940 --> 00:59:54.500
whatever. I'm like, what a fucking weird mom.

00:59:54.619 --> 00:59:56.760
She doesn't even question him really. Yeah. They

00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:58.760
have like, I mean, she, she's like overbearing

00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.460
on him too, but not in a sexual way as, as in

01:00:01.460 --> 01:00:04.719
the first, Oh, like she makes him give her, give

01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:06.860
her like foot massages and shit, but it's not,

01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.179
there's nothing sexual about it. Yeah. Which

01:00:09.179 --> 01:00:11.420
is kind of shocking, you know, seeing how much

01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:13.340
everyone, you know, everyone else is a sleazy

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:15.159
asshole in this movie. And like I said, she doesn't

01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.460
do whatever. And I shouldn't even like question.

01:00:16.539 --> 01:00:17.800
She's like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Make your movies.

01:00:18.750 --> 01:00:20.869
She even tries to protect him, too. Like, because,

01:00:20.969 --> 01:00:22.690
you know, as you were saying, like, Maida starts

01:00:22.690 --> 01:00:24.409
to develop, like, an interest in him. Because

01:00:24.409 --> 01:00:27.670
she's, like, watching from above, like, the top

01:00:27.670 --> 01:00:30.590
floor apartment or whatever. And, you know, she

01:00:30.590 --> 01:00:32.309
keeps telling him, like, you know, stay away

01:00:32.309 --> 01:00:35.610
from him. Like, you know, he's an innocent child

01:00:35.610 --> 01:00:39.510
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, Myra. Yeah, and the

01:00:39.510 --> 01:00:41.780
whole relationship with Myra and Leo, yeah. I

01:00:41.780 --> 01:00:43.920
mean, eventually some feelings develop at the

01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.039
end. Well, yeah, they end up together at the

01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.579
end. Without giving away the ending, let's just

01:00:48.579 --> 01:00:52.940
say Bustamante, you know, they break up, you

01:00:52.940 --> 01:00:56.159
know, Mayra and Bustamante. Mayra's like, why

01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.159
did you even be with me? Why did you get with

01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.820
me? And he's like, por pendejo. Yeah, he's like,

01:01:00.820 --> 01:01:02.199
I didn't even fucking love you. I lied to you

01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:04.480
this whole time. Because I'm a dumbass. That's

01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.599
all. And then, yeah, then her and Leo get together.

01:01:08.509 --> 01:01:10.489
there's even a scene where might have like bust

01:01:10.489 --> 01:01:12.510
in like these folks are at the bar chopping it

01:01:12.510 --> 01:01:14.889
up and she bust in like who the fuck you buying

01:01:14.889 --> 01:01:16.969
perfume for he's like bitch my wife like what

01:01:16.969 --> 01:01:19.170
the fuck are you talking about like get the fuck

01:01:19.170 --> 01:01:21.869
out of here but that that scene you know as funny

01:01:21.869 --> 01:01:23.630
as it is like that's an important scene because

01:01:23.630 --> 01:01:26.969
that's what led them to discover that she was

01:01:26.969 --> 01:01:29.110
living in the building where leah was at because

01:01:29.110 --> 01:01:32.360
then he had to go control her And, you know,

01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:33.920
then he realized, oh, wait, this is like the,

01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:36.840
you know, where the pimp that he busted earlier

01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.139
with the little underage girls was like, yo,

01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:40.699
this is where I bought the movie from. They get

01:01:40.699 --> 01:01:44.019
it all from this guy. And I guess, what was that

01:01:44.019 --> 01:01:49.880
guy's name? Fuck, I can't remember. But he told

01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.679
him, oh, no, no, look, I buy these movies from

01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:55.820
this dude, which ends up being Leo. And, you

01:01:55.820 --> 01:01:59.360
know, that leads him directly to there. Yeah,

01:01:59.380 --> 01:02:02.739
so, like I said, I mean, it's a sleazy movie.

01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:05.679
It's fucking beautiful. Christian Gonzalez, rest

01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:09.880
in peace. Rest in peace. He's a fucking legend.

01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.539
When you watch this movie, like, if this is your

01:02:11.539 --> 01:02:13.519
first Christian Gonzalez movie, you're going

01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.360
to like it, like, no matter what, regardless.

01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:17.340
Yeah, this movie was hard. There's even a scene

01:02:17.340 --> 01:02:19.539
where Leo has a wet dream, thinking of his mom

01:02:19.539 --> 01:02:23.179
fucking with her dude. Yeah. This one wakes up,

01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.320
he's like, oh, God, he looks, and his hands all

01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.940
gooey, like, oh, man. And then stuff like that.

01:02:27.980 --> 01:02:29.320
See, in every Christian, there's always, like,

01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:33.159
humor like that, just gross humor. Like, he was

01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:34.900
just a great guy. I would like to consider him,

01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:38.000
like, I don't know. like a John Wateris kind

01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.820
of person, Takashi Miki, something like that

01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:43.480
in that nature. I could see the Miki comparison,

01:02:43.739 --> 01:02:46.760
you know, with such high volume of movies and

01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.420
kind of, you know, Spanish kind of shitty. So

01:02:49.420 --> 01:02:52.340
kind of like that, you know, and he was all proud

01:02:52.340 --> 01:02:54.159
of all of his movies, you know, I mean, of course

01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:56.159
he was always not proud of some of them, like

01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:57.619
some of them that he didn't like have control

01:02:57.619 --> 01:03:00.300
over. Like I always said, if you watch a Christian

01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:02.440
Gonzalez movie and it's good, that means he had

01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.340
full control. If the movie was a piece of shit,

01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.599
yeah, he had no control over it. Like when he

01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.480
did the Cumbia Asesina remake. Yeah, he had no

01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.199
control over it. He wanted to have control over

01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:14.199
it, but he wasn't. So he's like, that movie sucked.

01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:16.840
Who had control over it? Adolfo Martinez Solano.

01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:22.059
I mean, you know. As me and Joe have talked to

01:03:22.059 --> 01:03:24.340
Adolfo, you know, we know Adolfo's style. Yeah,

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.539
yeah. He wanted to make a more sexual, you know,

01:03:26.539 --> 01:03:29.929
erotic movie. Christian. He wanted to be sleazy.

01:03:29.929 --> 01:03:31.449
He wanted to be sleazy, you know, just like his

01:03:31.449 --> 01:03:33.550
original movie. But, you know, he had no control

01:03:33.550 --> 01:03:36.610
over it. So, yeah. So, like I said, if you see

01:03:36.610 --> 01:03:39.469
the movie of his that's good, yeah, he had control

01:03:39.469 --> 01:03:43.409
over it. If it was a piece of shit, no. He would

01:03:43.409 --> 01:03:45.210
even tell you himself, like, no, that movie sucks.

01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:47.570
Don't watch it. Like, when he told me about Klondike

01:03:47.570 --> 01:03:49.610
Hitler, I was like, oh, yeah, I saw Klondike

01:03:49.610 --> 01:03:51.170
Hitler. I was like, I didn't like it, to be honest.

01:03:51.670 --> 01:03:53.309
He's like, yeah, that movie sucks. I didn't want

01:03:53.309 --> 01:03:56.769
to do it. But they wanted to pay me. I was like,

01:03:56.789 --> 01:03:58.070
I needed the money. He's like, I just fucking

01:03:58.070 --> 01:04:00.230
got paid and did it. I hate that shit. You'd

01:04:00.230 --> 01:04:02.389
be hard -pressed to find a filmmaker who hasn't

01:04:02.389 --> 01:04:04.329
done something for money that they didn't want

01:04:04.329 --> 01:04:07.289
to fucking do. Sometimes you need to keep the

01:04:07.289 --> 01:04:09.590
lights on, you know? Exactly, yeah. So, you know,

01:04:09.650 --> 01:04:12.199
and in this case, you know, with... This movie,

01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:14.699
I mean, this movie actually has quite an interesting

01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:17.579
background, though. It was written by three women.

01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:21.679
Yeah. Written by Carmelinda Valverde, Teresa

01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.500
Samperio, and Isabel Samperio. And I'm only familiar

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:26.800
with Isabel because Isabel actually wrote a bunch

01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:31.280
of crazy movies, too, on her own. And we have,

01:04:31.300 --> 01:04:34.239
yeah, Carmelinda Valverde. I mean, she worked

01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:35.679
with Christian for quite a while and is early

01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.039
in his career. She did Bulldog. She did Ritmo,

01:04:38.099 --> 01:04:41.650
Traicion y Muerte, Cumbia Asesina. And then what

01:04:41.650 --> 01:04:43.869
was the other one? Sinaloa, I believe. All kinds

01:04:43.869 --> 01:04:46.769
of crazy shit. So imagine three women wrote this

01:04:46.769 --> 01:04:50.230
movie. I mean, there's a lot of tie -ins for

01:04:50.230 --> 01:04:52.389
both of these movies. Obviously Christian had

01:04:52.389 --> 01:04:55.630
the idea. He hired these ladies like, hey, make

01:04:55.630 --> 01:04:59.050
this movie happen. Give me a script. And sure

01:04:59.050 --> 01:05:01.269
enough, they all wrote him a fucking great movie.

01:05:01.610 --> 01:05:04.289
And I'm like, damn, three women wrote this movie?

01:05:04.469 --> 01:05:07.650
That's probably why those... Those lesbian scenes

01:05:07.650 --> 01:05:10.090
were, like, super sensual. Yeah. It felt like

01:05:10.090 --> 01:05:12.150
I was watching, like, a Red Shoe Diary, like,

01:05:12.190 --> 01:05:14.489
movie. Like, we were talking before we were recording,

01:05:14.570 --> 01:05:16.929
like, the soundtrack to this is super, like,

01:05:17.070 --> 01:05:20.030
Skinamax -type sounding soundtrack. And, you

01:05:20.030 --> 01:05:22.090
know, these girls are, like, you know, humping

01:05:22.090 --> 01:05:25.849
pillows and, I mean, supercharged eroticism.

01:05:26.090 --> 01:05:27.170
Yeah, just creepy shit, yeah. And that was the

01:05:27.170 --> 01:05:29.369
thing about Christian. He was very big on erotic

01:05:29.369 --> 01:05:31.369
stuff, too. So his other movies have erotic,

01:05:31.369 --> 01:05:34.630
you know, material as well. I mean, I'm all for

01:05:34.630 --> 01:05:36.690
it. Oh, yeah. He's fucking great. I think once

01:05:36.690 --> 01:05:38.449
we get into the show, I'm going to keep giving

01:05:38.449 --> 01:05:40.010
you titles, Joey. I'm going to be like, watch

01:05:40.010 --> 01:05:41.550
this Christian movie. Watch this Christian movie.

01:05:41.710 --> 01:05:43.690
Bang them all out. And if he was still alive

01:05:43.690 --> 01:05:45.630
and we had him on the show, he would tell you

01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:48.130
the same thing like I'm telling you now. He made

01:05:48.130 --> 01:05:50.070
movies for assholes because he was an asshole.

01:05:50.329 --> 01:05:54.070
Mexico is a big asshole. I mean, I love Mexico,

01:05:54.070 --> 01:05:56.690
man. I love my peoples, but yeah, man, there's

01:05:56.690 --> 01:05:59.170
some assholes, man. Or a bunch of pieces of shit.

01:05:59.369 --> 01:06:02.610
That's what he would tell you. I mean, it's no

01:06:02.610 --> 01:06:04.730
surprise. I mean, we've talked about it. you

01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:06.929
know in private and maybe a little bit on the

01:06:06.929 --> 01:06:08.989
show but like you know violence against women

01:06:08.989 --> 01:06:11.829
in mexico is a huge huge issue so i mean it's

01:06:11.829 --> 01:06:14.070
no surprise that you see that translated onto

01:06:14.070 --> 01:06:17.750
screen yeah um and have shitty characters but

01:06:17.750 --> 01:06:19.849
to have it written by women is kind of interesting

01:06:19.849 --> 01:06:24.030
three women which i thought was funny like the

01:06:24.030 --> 01:06:25.949
first time i saw that i was like wait did i just

01:06:25.949 --> 01:06:27.869
see three women wrote this movie i was like i

01:06:27.869 --> 01:06:30.750
thought it was just christian but no christian

01:06:30.750 --> 01:06:33.110
you know he he had his uh people you know that

01:06:33.110 --> 01:06:36.130
he worked with So if this was shot on 35, is

01:06:36.130 --> 01:06:37.769
there a print of this laying around somewhere?

01:06:37.849 --> 01:06:39.449
More than likely, yeah. At the Cineteca maybe?

01:06:39.489 --> 01:06:42.389
I know a lot of his 35mm stuff is at Cineteca,

01:06:42.389 --> 01:06:44.690
like Imperio de los Malditos. That's probably

01:06:44.690 --> 01:06:47.630
his most famous one, I think, in 35mm. It's there,

01:06:47.650 --> 01:06:50.570
I know that. Man, we gotta get someone to do

01:06:50.570 --> 01:06:53.230
35mm screenings of this shit, man. People are

01:06:53.230 --> 01:06:57.050
severely sleeping on this shit. I know. I would

01:06:57.050 --> 01:06:59.190
die to see this movie on 35. You gonna tell me

01:06:59.190 --> 01:07:02.090
if this didn't screen at like a small like you

01:07:02.090 --> 01:07:04.289
know 100 seat theater people wouldn't show up

01:07:04.289 --> 01:07:08.530
for this shit? Oh yeah. I'm telling you. Hopefully.

01:07:08.710 --> 01:07:11.909
One day you know. But for now it's all at Cineteca.

01:07:13.230 --> 01:07:15.789
And Christian's movies I mean they live on on

01:07:15.789 --> 01:07:17.369
the internet you know you can find them anywhere

01:07:17.369 --> 01:07:19.469
you know. Yeah this one's on YouTube. Yeah this

01:07:19.469 --> 01:07:22.250
is on YouTube. All his other movies on DVD, VHS.

01:07:22.489 --> 01:07:25.710
Easily to get sometimes. And he would tell you.

01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:27.480
You know, just buy them or you just boo like

01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.539
my girl. Just boo like. That's how cool he was.

01:07:30.619 --> 01:07:32.619
He would just be like, oh, yeah. If it's on YouTube,

01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.679
watch it. I mean, I'm kind of the same way, you

01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:37.239
know. If you have the means to buy something,

01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:39.500
pay for it, you know. But if it's offered for

01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:42.559
free, you know, it is what it is, you know. Sometimes

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.719
people don't have, you know, access to movies.

01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:49.179
And if it's on YouTube, fuck it. I'm watching

01:07:49.179 --> 01:07:51.780
it. Yeah. I mean, you see. I mean, we're in the

01:07:51.780 --> 01:07:54.460
house. I have everything here with me. I don't

01:07:54.460 --> 01:07:58.369
need the internet. but anyways but uh yeah that's

01:07:58.369 --> 01:08:00.869
why armando's the god of this shit you know too

01:08:00.869 --> 01:08:02.670
many eventually we'll go through all of these

01:08:02.670 --> 01:08:04.750
fucking tapes at some point that was that was

01:08:04.750 --> 01:08:06.530
the whole purpose of this show you know trying

01:08:06.530 --> 01:08:08.949
to get armando to give me access to this fucking

01:08:08.949 --> 01:08:10.710
vault that he has here you know i'm gonna leave

01:08:10.710 --> 01:08:13.909
joe christian because there is some christian

01:08:13.909 --> 01:08:15.809
movies yeah i need you to take home yeah dude

01:08:15.809 --> 01:08:19.609
i'll digitize the shit out of it yeah exactly

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.180
All right. I think that wraps it up. I mean,

01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.060
we talked about two crazy mothers. I mean, one

01:08:24.060 --> 01:08:25.920
was really crazy. The other one was just kind

01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:28.680
of, how can I explain it? She was just really

01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:32.569
protective and, you know, she was cool. a little

01:08:32.569 --> 01:08:35.010
too cool yeah that's like she she was like the

01:08:35.010 --> 01:08:37.050
mom like your friend's mom in high school that's

01:08:37.050 --> 01:08:38.710
like oh you guys want to smoke weed yeah sure

01:08:38.710 --> 01:08:41.590
yeah there we go leave the leave the leave the

01:08:41.590 --> 01:08:43.850
fucking the roaches in the ashtray you know she

01:08:43.850 --> 01:08:46.149
was that type of mom yeah exactly so you know

01:08:46.149 --> 01:08:48.670
two different kinds of mothers you know we felt

01:08:48.670 --> 01:08:50.489
it was appropriate for mother's day especially

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for trash mics yeah i'm gonna talk about I don't

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know, something with the mothers that are happy

01:08:55.380 --> 01:08:56.859
or something. No, fuck no. Nah, hell no, man.

01:08:56.859 --> 01:08:59.260
I'm going to give you some greasy shit. No. You

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know, the older I get, the less into drama I

01:09:02.180 --> 01:09:04.680
am, you know? Give me the fucking sleaziest movies.

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And that's what's going to make me happy. We're

01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:08.619
not going to watch Father of the Bride. We're

01:09:08.619 --> 01:09:10.619
going to watch Imperio de los Malditos for Father's

01:09:10.619 --> 01:09:15.380
Day. I still haven't seen that. Okay, so this

01:09:15.380 --> 01:09:17.159
is a good idea for Father's Day. If we do a Father's

01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:18.340
Day episode, we're going to do Imperio de los

01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:20.359
Malditos because it does have to do with a father

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:22.340
figure, sort of. There it is. I think we're going

01:09:22.340 --> 01:09:24.220
to do that. Unless you want to do Father of the

01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:28.640
Bride with Andy Garcia. Specifically the Andy

01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:33.199
Garcia version. But, yeah, you know, enjoy the

01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.239
Mother's Day. If you're watching, you know, hey,

01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:36.899
you know what? That's an idea. Watch these movies

01:09:36.899 --> 01:09:41.119
with your mom. How about that? Tell a trash mix

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.180
sense you. Maybe Obsession, but I don't know

01:09:43.180 --> 01:09:44.539
about Esclavity. Esclavity, you're going to have

01:09:44.539 --> 01:09:48.539
to watch that by yourself. Anyways, happy Mother's

01:09:48.539 --> 01:09:50.560
Day. Yeah, happy Mother's Day to all the mothers

01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:51.840
out there. Yeah, hug your mom if she's still

01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.939
there. Fucking, if not, you know, chunk up a

01:09:55.939 --> 01:09:57.920
deuce and say peace to the sky. Yeah, exactly.

01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.560
next month is father's day you know you may you

01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:04.680
may have just gotten a little hint into what

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yeah maybe or maybe not i don't know we'll see

01:10:07.140 --> 01:10:10.500
we'll put the clip in right here but uh don't

01:10:10.500 --> 01:10:13.880
forget you know rate us subscribe tell your tias

01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:17.079
tell your tios your primas your sanchas everybody

01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:21.199
share our instagram posts our episodes everything

01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.239
you know do all that review us i don't there's

01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.760
not we don't have a single reviewer give us a

01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:27.899
fucking review you hate us or you like us i don't

01:10:27.899 --> 01:10:30.180
care just review it yeah If you give us a review

01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:32.100
and if you're in America, I'll send you a lobby

01:10:32.100 --> 01:10:34.260
card. There it is. Boom. You get a free lobby

01:10:34.260 --> 01:10:35.760
card. I'll put that on the show notes. I was

01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:37.060
like, leave us a review and you might get a lobby

01:10:37.060 --> 01:10:38.899
card. Maybe this will prove who actually reads

01:10:38.899 --> 01:10:41.760
the show notes and who doesn't. Oh, I know. Show

01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:43.500
notes, of course, will have a link to the movies.

01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.899
And like I said, watch them. Let us know what

01:10:45.899 --> 01:10:48.720
you think. And yeah, we'll see you next month.

01:10:49.460 --> 01:10:51.119
Hopefully it'll be a Father's Day episode because

01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:52.500
I think that's the one that's coming up right

01:10:52.500 --> 01:10:55.159
in June. June is Father's Day. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

01:10:55.220 --> 01:10:57.529
maybe we'll do that. We'll see. But for now,

01:10:57.649 --> 01:11:29.119
happy Mother's Day. Enjoy. Peace. Porque los

01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:33.720
mantiene ocultos. Encadenados. No quiero exponerme

01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.539
a que los vean. A que se burlen de ellos. De

01:11:37.539 --> 01:11:42.439
mí. No podría soportarlo. Usted dijo que yo venía

01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:49.180
a curarlos. A separarlos. Así es, doctor. Está

01:11:49.180 --> 01:11:53.800
loco. Es una intervención difícil. Peligrosa.

01:11:53.819 --> 01:11:58.220
Yo no me presto a esto. Doctor. Se lo suplico.

01:12:26.500 --> 01:12:32.260
Doctor! This time... He's going to do what I

01:12:32.260 --> 01:12:32.539
ordered.