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Hello everyone and welcome to the Trash Mix podcast

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and today we have a special guest and you've

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probably seen him around LA, probably seen him

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around DOC, maybe Texas. Out in the Dino. Oh

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yeah, I forgot about that, yeah. And it's none

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other than Mikey Geary of See It On 16mm. What's

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up everyone, how y 'all doing? Tell everybody

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who you are, what you do, exactly. My name is

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Mikey Geary, I run something called... see it

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on 16 millimeter um this all started while i'm

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about to hit my five year of touring and doing

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this but basically bringing film prints to theaters

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that don't have film anymore um this kind of

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all started because i was commuting a lot to

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like central LA to hit up some of the theaters

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to watch stuff on film and I noticed like a lot

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of the theaters outside of uh central LA like

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really don't show film anymore so it was like

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one of those things where I was like uh how do

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you kind of bridge that gap so people can uh

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experience watching a movie on film and um you

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know thanks to Trevor uh Frida Cinema was able

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to start playing it in theaters and started working

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with other theaters. So I've been doing this

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for, geez, next month is going to be five years

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now. So basically, so basically Frida and Trevor

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were responsible for this. Yeah. Yeah. Shout

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out Trevor. That's the dude right there. It happened.

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I think it was a father's day during the first

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year of the pandemic. He came over and we watched

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the double of Rolling Thunder and Death Wish

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on 16 in my backyard. And he was like, hey, would

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you want to do this at the theater? And I think

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it did like a member screening. And then we did

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the first like. public screening in december

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five years ago now what the fuck do it again

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yeah rolling thunder yeah it was a sick uh it

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was a sick double the print was faded as hell

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but like also the print was missing like 40 minutes

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literally and the movie was like under an hour

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and 20 minutes the the print that i found in

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san diego and uh it just kind of got to the point

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and it kind of cut out all the uh the all the

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good shit oh no no it was all the good shit but

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it cut out the relationship So it literally went

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from him losing his hand to him going to dinner

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with Tommy Lee Jones. Like, it cut that much

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out, but it was sick. Oh, shit. Yeah, thank you,

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Trevor, for everything, man. Well, we have you

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on here because we're talking about a special

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16mm print that... So you and Armando kind of

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have a little bit of a history with this print

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because you guys have now screened the print

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of the movie that we're going to be talking about.

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a couple of times already so i don't you want

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to uh go a little go a little bit about that

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armando you started yeah mike you can you can

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chime in yeah i actually pointed it out to mike

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what was the guy saying that we got the print

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from the first print the first print was found

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in i believe it was in new york and it was my

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my buddy evan yeah evan yeah he has a sick collection

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yeah evan evan had the print and uh he offered

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it up and um armando and i were just like yeah

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let's pick it up like you know a lot of mexican

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films and stuff showing up on 16 it just really

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doesn't happen much um so it was one of those

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things where it's like you know what let's go

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through with this let's let's start screening

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this kind of a no -brainer to pick it up right

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yeah yeah i actually really like that movie too

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i was like oh fuck i remember this movie because

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i've seen it on tv like a lot like growing up

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i was like oh shit and it's an english version

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which i've never really seen before Yeah, there's

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like a we'll get into that, you know, version

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of it because there are two. There's an English

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version and a Spanish version. And we're going

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to kind of review the English version just to

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kind of keep it, you know, in the in the context

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of the movie that people have seen you guys screen.

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Mikey, tell us what what's the name of the movie?

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A Hundred Cries of Terror from 1965. um this

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was uh not i had not seen the movie until uh

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i told armando about this print and he was like

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oh you need we need to get this like this is

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actually like really good and learning that it

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was a basically a two -part anthology um it was

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fantastic like we've had such a blast we now

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have we we you know bought another print of it

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with another print came up from an old rental

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house that we found about a year ago and it was

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a little bit better condition and we're just

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you know we've been touring the print around

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we did a quick screening in la and then um we

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showed it again in uh at the texas theater um

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and yeah we actually like i don't know if you

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remember that but we flew out with the projector

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and everything and the uh yeah i remember getting

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stopped at tsa because they were like what the

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fuck is this bomb that this was trying to bring

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on this fucking plane Yeah, no, it was awesome.

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I literally tried packing it up, and they literally

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dismantled the entire package that I was trying

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to bring on the plane. But it made it there,

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and we were able to screen it. And then we just

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recently had a screening at a philosophical research

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society in Los Feliz. It felt pretty appropriate

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there, actually. It really did, yeah. If there

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was one movie, because we have just a couple

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prints. that we can screen of some of these mexican

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films on 16 um so it was that movie i was like

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oh this is gonna fit very well and i think everybody

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that showed up they were pretty stoked on it

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for the most part yeah a couple people that i

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knew that went they were like yeah that was really

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good i never seen it yeah yeah they were excited

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to see that one And it's been, like, I think

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this is, like, honestly probably the best you

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can see this movie because everything else that

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I've been seeing has been, like, really shitty,

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like, VHS rips. Yeah, very grainy. Yeah. Audio's

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kind of eh. Yeah. Yeah, even, like, when we start

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breaking down the stories and stuff, like, the

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audio clips I went through, I have the Spanish

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version on my hard drive in my digital archive,

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but. The audio is so fucking bad. It's really

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bad. I spent like maybe three days trying to

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fix it. There was no depth in it. You try to

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take the highs out to eliminate the background

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noise, like the static, but it would just completely

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drown out. It was just bad. I even told Armando,

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even the clips that we're going to play for the

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movie in this episode, it's going to be the English

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version, unfortunately. It is what it is. It's

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the best quality version that I have, at least.

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Yeah. Because I saw some of the rips on YouTube.

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I was just curious, and I was texting Armando

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during it. I was like... is this really the best

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it looks like? It was like this grainy washed

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out contrasty kind of choppy type of a video.

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And I'm like, this is pretty bad. Like, and it's

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just, uh, yeah, no, it, uh, I'm just glad people

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were able to see it like this. Cause the print

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looks fucking great. And I thought it looked

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really nice on the, on the big screen. So which

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version did the people in Texas see? Cause I

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was, you know, obviously I was there at that

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one. Was that, is that the, cause you said you

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had two different prints of this now? Armando

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and I, We had an original print. Okay, so that

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one, the one that was at Texas Theater, it was

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the first print that we had. Yeah, that was the

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first one. Yeah, and thank you to everybody at

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Texas Theater for allowing us to do that, Chad,

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and Hope setting us up with everybody there.

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We really appreciate it and hope to go back to

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Texas soon. But yeah, that print was the first

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one. So I did a buyout of like... bunch of old

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rental films right here in Eagle Rock at a storage

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unit and I texted Armando and I was like They

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have a hundred cries of terror in this, in this

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bio. I bought, I bought about like almost 116

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millimeter films from this buyout. And I just

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literally, the guy opened, opened the storage

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unit and the box was right there, literally looking

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at me. And they said a hundred cries of terror.

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And I'm like, no fucking way. I was like, no

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way, dude. And like looked at it and it was actually

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in better condition than the first one. So, I

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mean, you know, why not get a second print of

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the movie itself is good but you know you bring

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up an interesting point or i guess we were kind

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of talking about it a little bit because there's

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two there's the spanish version and there's the

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english version and um obviously you guys have

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the english dub but that was created by um k

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gordon murray who was kind of like a um I don't

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want to use exploitative producer, but that's

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kind of what he was because he would take, you

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know, especially Mexican movies, he would take

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Mexican movies and redub them into English, retitle

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them, and then just kind of release it into the

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masses for the American audience. Yeah, he was

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very gimmicky. So he worked with Kroger Babb.

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If you don't know who Kroger Babb is, he was

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an exploitation filmmaker. He learned a lot from

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Kroger. So he was pretty schemey and weird like

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that. Yeah, anyone who's seen the VCI versions

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of the Santa movies that they put out on that

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box set where they keep calling him Samson. That

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was... Yeah, the black and white ones? Yeah,

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that was Gordon Murray. Oh, wow, okay. They did

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him in Miami because that's where he was based

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at at the time. So he would just hire a bunch

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of random actors and do them in Miami. Yeah,

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I read a little bit of an interesting story about

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him because I guess he was like a carny in the

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30s when he was kind of like growing up and then

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came to Hollywood in the 40s, worked with Cecil

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B. DeMille. Yeah, literally all the weirdos.

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Learned trades from him and then moved to Florida

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and was like, fuck it, let's release these movies.

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He dabbled in the porn industry. a little bit

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too right i believe so yeah i think there was

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something on the rialto report the that they

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were talking about k gordon was like a producer

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that was like involved in some of the stuff that

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was happening in miami and the dude they were

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saying he was just very smart with the way that

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he executed stuff and like um but like geez like

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some of the stuff that he did put out like is

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just uh You see it still kind of pop up these

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days with Sinister Cinema and all the stuff that

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they used to release. It was mainly all the K.

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Gordon Murray stuff. No, it's awesome. I'm glad

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that people were able to see some of this stuff,

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but man, I wish the quality was a little bit

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better on some of these. Yeah, I mean, I would

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imagine that some of these prints are... I mean,

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either non -existent at this point or just, you

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know, extremely scarce to find. But it would

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be dope to find some of these. Well, I mean,

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what do you think? Do you think he was really

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I mean, I'm sure he released the majority of

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these on a 35 millimeter print. But I mean, obviously,

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you have 16 millimeter prints of his work. So

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what do you think would have been like the like

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the comparison between a 35 and a 16 millimeter

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print or as far as like. um you know how he was

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releasing these movies i think i honestly think

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i've seen a majority of them because like you

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don't really see much of the 35s of these i think

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these were just all kind of like duped and like

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sent out to be played for like television stations

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and stuff like that and like um and everything

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that he uh he basically like was doing it kind

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of seemed for like smaller type of things like

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uh like in home or something like that or like

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i said running for television it didn't seem

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like there was really i i have not come across

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much of like actual like 35 stuff from that and

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then most of the 16 prints i would even say with

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the hundred cries of terror print that we have

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that it's just a really good dupe from possibly

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like a 35 or something like that because it you

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can tell some of the differences that it's like

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that would contrast stuff where it's like it

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this is not an original but it's actually a really

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nice dupe of an original print um yeah well he

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wasn't the king of the kitty matinees for nothing

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i mean i read that he uh the renee cardona movie

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that he put out the santa claus that was like

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One of his only movies that was successful and

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ran theatrically for three decades. He was able

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to make money off of that fucking movie. And

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then the Mexican producer, the color of him,

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they didn't even know who he was. They didn't

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even know that was going on. They literally had

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no idea. It's all illegal shit. They didn't even

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know who he was. They're like, who the fuck is

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that? They had no idea who that was. They never

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authorized it. You already know. That's the nature

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of the business, especially at that point. But

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let's kind of get into it. Obviously, you guys

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know by now we're talking about 100 Cries of

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Terror, a .k .a. Cien Gritos de Terror from 1965.

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I actually really like this movie a lot. I'm

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sure the people who came to see it at some of

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the screenings that you guys have had probably

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like it a lot, too. Yeah, everybody that I know

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that came to see any of the screenings that we

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did, they all had. pretty positive things to

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say there was never one like oh it was just okay

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they were like no that was actually really good

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i think that comes or stems from the fact that

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you know so the director uh his name is uh ramon

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uh obon obon but um he was primarily a writer

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This is his only movie that he ever directed.

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That was literally the only one, yep. And then

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on top of that, he had two cinematographers that

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were super well established. And his shows, too.

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Yeah, that's one of the key notes that I have

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written down here was some of the shots in some

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of these movies. But let's kind of go into Ramon

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a little bit because, like I said, he was mainly

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a writer. He actually wrote... The Enmascarada

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de Plata, which we talked about a little bit

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in the Santo episode. That's like the precursor

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of Lucha films. I guess technically would be

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the first quote -unquote Lucha movie. An attempt

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at a Santo film, sort of. El Vampiro, absolutely

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legendary. golden age uh mexican horror um another

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you know legendary sequel um which to me i i

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found it's really good love that yeah that one's

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really good um hopefully we'll talk about that

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one you know somewhere down the line and then

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he did el pantano de las animas which is like

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a kind of a horror western has like a gill man

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quote unquote i gotta watch that i haven't seen

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that one a spoiler that's not really a gill man

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but yeah i mean i didn't i didn't think it would

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be that was also that was that was that was one

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that yeah kate gordon also did a dubbing of as

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well oh so it's out there then yeah you can be

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mentioned too in the elven fetal uh set that

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indicator put out they actually talk about the

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100 Cries of Terror screening that we did at

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the Texas Theater. Yeah, Abraham Castillo Flores.

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Yeah, he mentioned it to Ramon Obon's son about

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that. He's like, oh, he thought that was pretty

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cool. And he does mention that in the Blu -ray

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feature. Yeah, the marquee and everything. Yeah,

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we gave him a copy of the clip and everything

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and the marquee. so you take notes if you haven't

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bought that box set man go out and get it yeah

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yeah that's actually yeah if you really want

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to learn more about ramona bone yeah you gotta

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get that blu -ray it comes with both movies doesn't

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it yeah and now it's one of the vampiro yeah

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yeah so it goes with both movies and then a really

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good like little feature on ramona one yeah shout

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out to abraham man what a fucking dude um yeah

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so basically the uh um It was produced by Antonio

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del Castillo, who also produced, you know, El

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Mascarado de Plato. But one of the standouts

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for me, and I don't know how you guys feel about

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it. I mean, obviously, by now, hopefully people

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know that, you know, kind of my background with

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Ron, if you were in the soundtrack, movie soundtracks

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and all that stuff. But the soundtrack to this

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movie was fucking amazing. It's like super jazzy.

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I mean, it's like, you know, anything coming

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out of the U .S. at that time, you know, is comparable

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to what... but Rafael Correón was doing, and

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he also did the music to another movie that we

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talked about, the Caminos de Michoacán, which

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I guess I don't really remember. Yeah, he composed

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it, and then a lot of his old stuff got played

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later in the 80s, like El Violador Inferno, like

00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:27.720
Inferno Rapist. Literally the same music in this

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movie is played in that one. I see. Again, everything

00:16:30.460 --> 00:16:31.980
is a tie -breaker. Yeah, they were just recycling

00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:35.899
the music, yeah. So, yeah, let's get into the

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first the first story. I mean, it's to the movie.

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It's the one thing that I really like about anthologies

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is kind of how movies tie into one another. But

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I feel like this one doesn't really have like

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that thread between them. It's just too. um two

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horror stories one is more uh supernatural and

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i guess the other would be kind of like a psychological

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yeah like a betrayal there well even like the

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second story is kind of like an existential like

00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.000
horror movie you can say uh kind of the crisis

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and dilemma that this fool is going through but

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um yeah the first movie is like a betrayal for

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sure you know don't you know i guess the cautionary

00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.559
tale of don't don't try to you know two -time

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your wife you know because she's probably gonna

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find out Yeah, the first story is called Panico.

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And I do want to point out that, you know, the

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cinematographer on this, absolute legend, Agustin

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Martinez -Solares. And if that name sounds semi

00:17:35.329 --> 00:17:38.630
-familiar, it should. That's the brother of Gilberto

00:17:38.630 --> 00:17:41.069
Martinez -Solares. Exactly. Adolfo, our friend

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Adolfo's uncle. Shout out to Adolfo. If you haven't

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listened to that interview, go back and listen

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to that. But, yeah, absolutely legendary camera

00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:53.099
work there. Dude has 161 credits, worked with

00:17:53.099 --> 00:17:55.880
the greats. Like you said, Gilberto Martinez

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-Solares, his brother, worked with Chano Urrueta.

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If you don't know Chano Urrueta, at this point,

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turn this off and go watch some Chano movies.

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The funny thing is, too, Agustin, he also had

00:18:06.299 --> 00:18:08.880
his kids in the movies, too, if you never noticed

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that. Well, that's another thing that I have

00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.920
pointed out here because his son. Agustin Martinez

00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.799
-Solares Jr., pretty famous. I think anyone who

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showed up to the Santo Sunday series that you

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guys programmed at the Frida would remember him

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as Rufus Rex, the sexy wolf man. And if you haven't

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seen that, please go see that because that's

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fucking a banger. But he was all, you know, tons

00:18:36.700 --> 00:18:38.500
of them with Night of the Bloody Apes and all

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kinds of other shit. His work in this movie,

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I mean, I don't know. I would assume that this

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movie was shot on set and not at an actual location.

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I'm sure you guys would agree with that. Oh,

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yeah, you can tell right away. But the way he

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was able to make this big -ass house feel small

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with the way he was working the camera can't

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go unsaid because, I mean, it... there's like

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a gothic feel to this movie inside the movie

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it's such a weird like juxtaposition because

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it's like The interior almost feels like an Art

00:19:18.259 --> 00:19:22.819
Deco -style mansion. It's super dark in there,

00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:25.119
though, so it kind of has this weird gothic feel.

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Like I said, the way he's playing with the camera

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just really kind of lends into the story with

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all the intricacies of the room and the stairwells

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and shit like that. Yeah, I felt like the backdrop

00:19:38.059 --> 00:19:40.799
for this movie was very Spanish, gothic type

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of... architecture and stuff too like it felt

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like the house was like a character in its own

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especially in this first segment oh absolutely

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yeah yeah i mean they almost kind of allude to

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it you know with the kind of the background of

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the of the house being kind of this you know

00:19:55.529 --> 00:19:57.789
haunted house and you know whether or not that's

00:19:57.789 --> 00:19:59.470
a true story i mean i would imagine he would

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the husband was lying but um yeah the house really

00:20:02.769 --> 00:20:06.190
does play an integral role in the in the story

00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:11.309
itself i don't understand You don't understand

00:20:11.309 --> 00:20:16.849
what? Just why this house turned out to be so

00:20:16.849 --> 00:20:21.890
cheap. Hmm? The owner said sentimental reasons.

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I bought it from the heirs of the old lady who

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built it originally. They didn't want to live

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in it. It brought back unpleasant memories. The

00:20:32.609 --> 00:20:36.089
owner was the grandmother, but died six years

00:20:36.089 --> 00:20:38.769
ago. And since then, no one's wanted to live

00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:42.160
here. I don't know. Seems it was a tragedy in

00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.599
the family. I was told that her husband and the

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three children were fatally injured in an accident.

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Of course, she continued to live on here for

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ten years, all alone in this great big house.

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But... the woman didn't think well. Crazy? Sure.

00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.650
Crazy. But let's get into it. I mean, really,

00:21:04.750 --> 00:21:07.329
there's only three players in this first story.

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Joaquin Cordero, who, again, absolute legendary

00:21:10.470 --> 00:21:15.430
Mexican actor. Well over 200 credits. We've talked

00:21:15.430 --> 00:21:17.710
about him. He was part of the first two Santo

00:21:17.710 --> 00:21:21.470
movies. Yeah, he's been in a lot. He deserves

00:21:21.470 --> 00:21:23.849
more credit than he gets, I feel. There's so

00:21:23.849 --> 00:21:27.609
many actors from his age. They get more credit

00:21:27.609 --> 00:21:29.650
than they should get. Like Joaquin, it's like

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he's been in more stuff than these other legendary

00:21:31.789 --> 00:21:34.329
actors. Well, why do you think he's overlooked

00:21:34.329 --> 00:21:38.029
then? I think it's just like the favoritism,

00:21:38.089 --> 00:21:40.609
you know, that's what it is. Joaquin stars in

00:21:40.609 --> 00:21:42.210
these like, you know, cheesy little movies, but

00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:44.109
it's like, no, he's done better shit too, you

00:21:44.109 --> 00:21:46.029
know? Like he deserves more credit than he gets,

00:21:46.109 --> 00:21:48.569
you know? Because he was in more like the pulpy

00:21:48.569 --> 00:21:50.650
side. Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah.

00:21:50.809 --> 00:21:53.470
But I always said, like I said, no, he did better.

00:21:53.630 --> 00:21:56.359
He did more than the other guys. i feel he's

00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:58.720
a phenomenal actor yeah i've never seen a role

00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.779
that he's been in that he very charismatic and

00:22:01.779 --> 00:22:04.200
very serious and then if he needed to be funny

00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.319
he was funny so yeah he was a great actor i don't

00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:09.000
know why he doesn't get more accolades you know

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.920
or anything like that it amazes me well i mean

00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.339
we'll shine some light yeah some more light on

00:22:15.339 --> 00:22:18.819
his career but um He plays a character named

00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:21.480
Julio, or in the English version, his name is

00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:31.359
Howard. Howard? And then he has Ophelia Montesco,

00:22:31.500 --> 00:22:40.220
who plays Alejandra. And, yeah, I mean, there's...

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I don't even know how to begin to tell the story,

00:22:43.500 --> 00:22:46.099
because essentially the story is about... You

00:22:46.099 --> 00:22:52.180
know, this guy, Julio Joaquin, who buys a haunted

00:22:52.180 --> 00:22:55.279
house, brings his wife, who he's obviously already

00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.799
having problems with, to the house. She also

00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.900
has a heart condition. Yeah, she has medical

00:23:01.900 --> 00:23:07.759
conditions. And we later learn that he brought

00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.640
her there to kind of, I mean, without spoiling

00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.519
it, scare her to death. You know, Mikey, what

00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.299
do you think? How would you describe this story

00:23:20.299 --> 00:23:23.240
or like how would you put give like your your

00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.619
little one to two sentence plot? So if I were

00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:28.779
to try to sell this story to someone, I would

00:23:28.779 --> 00:23:31.180
just be like, you know, for general audiences,

00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:33.960
it'd be like this is like a Edgar Allan Poe type

00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.599
of tale of, you know, kind of like this dark

00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.880
revenge. But it was just kind of like. This was

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.460
my favorite segment of the anthology, too. I

00:23:43.460 --> 00:23:47.579
really appreciated this first one. I felt it

00:23:47.579 --> 00:23:52.440
was just kind of like, you know, the guy is basically

00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:57.440
trying to set up his wife to, you know, be scared

00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.440
to death, quote unquote, in this new house and

00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.880
everything so he can, you know, carry on his

00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.160
life with the mistress and everything. But it's

00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.480
just like, you know, the evilness behind that

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:12.099
betrayal. kind of gets shifted in a way. And

00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:13.900
it's okay to spill the spoiler on this, right?

00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:21.920
I mean, yeah. So basically the wife kind of,

00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:28.539
I guess, fakes her death and comes back and actually

00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:33.259
flips the tables around on her cheating husband.

00:24:35.339 --> 00:24:38.559
and you know they all eventually the the people

00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.799
that did the betrayal the mistress and the husband

00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:45.119
end up dying and the ex -wife you know kind of

00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.079
takes everything packs her stuff and her luggage

00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.279
and everything and and kind of heads out like

00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.059
you know you thought you pulled one on me but

00:24:52.059 --> 00:24:54.960
the reality is i knew this entire time and and

00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:56.839
had it kind of planned out and the the fucking

00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:01.160
ghoul costume in this first one is so iconic

00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:05.700
and i just i hope people uh Attach more to that

00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:07.960
imagery. Because I actually really enjoy the

00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:09.779
costume. That they wear in this first one. It's

00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:12.380
a big ass mask with long hair. And the hands.

00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.359
And the chains. The dragging chain sound in the

00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.000
movie. And like the creaking wood. Adding to

00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.160
the atmosphere. And sound of this first segment.

00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.220
I just was like yeah this is fantastic. And it's

00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:26.059
funny because like. You can show people the picture

00:25:26.059 --> 00:25:28.460
of like the lobby card. And say 100 Cries of

00:25:28.460 --> 00:25:30.680
Terror. And show the picture of that ghoul. And

00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.140
totally have a different interpretation. Of what

00:25:33.140 --> 00:25:35.269
this first segment. actually is gonna be yeah

00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:37.289
you think it's gonna be some ghoulish character

00:25:37.289 --> 00:25:39.569
in there yeah but there might be one because

00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:41.490
you know it's funny because alex from prs pointed

00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:43.789
something out when i was leaving he was like

00:25:43.789 --> 00:25:45.549
did you notice at the end that there's like a

00:25:45.549 --> 00:25:48.710
hand holding the candle right when the the woman's

00:25:48.710 --> 00:25:50.170
leaving i was like oh yeah i didn't notice that

00:25:50.170 --> 00:25:51.970
he's like so i guess there really was a supernatural

00:25:51.970 --> 00:25:54.730
thing going on i never know yeah well i wonder

00:25:54.730 --> 00:25:56.269
if that was yeah because you remember there's

00:25:56.269 --> 00:25:58.150
like there's a scene where you know they when

00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:00.329
they finally where they first walk into the house

00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:02.710
And he's obviously like, well, you know, there's

00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:04.609
still renovations to be made or whatever. And

00:26:04.609 --> 00:26:08.309
he's walking, and there's like a dip on the floorboards

00:26:08.309 --> 00:26:11.869
there. So I wonder if maybe, you know, this whatever

00:26:11.869 --> 00:26:14.730
demon was probably living underneath in the basement.

00:26:14.829 --> 00:26:16.690
So there probably is something really going on

00:26:16.690 --> 00:26:19.130
there. But it just didn't do anything at the

00:26:19.130 --> 00:26:22.700
time. yeah that's crazy i didn't i gotta go back

00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:24.240
and watch it yeah it was funny when he pointed

00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.579
that out to me it's at the end of the yeah you

00:26:26.579 --> 00:26:28.099
know when she's leaving and then they show like

00:26:28.099 --> 00:26:29.819
a candle or something like that and i was like

00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:32.000
oh yeah that's right about that yeah i didn't

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.960
think about that part yeah i have to look again

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.460
but i know he mentioned it i was like yeah i

00:26:35.460 --> 00:26:37.039
didn't notice that before yeah i didn't notice

00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:38.880
that i gotta there was like yeah so it's like

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:40.920
okay so they were hinting that there was something

00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.059
there then for sure you know it wasn't all just

00:26:43.059 --> 00:26:45.220
you know a trick or whatever from the husband

00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:49.509
so armando do you think that the wife actually

00:26:49.509 --> 00:26:52.130
you know knew beforehand like her whole plan

00:26:52.130 --> 00:26:54.369
was to get them to this isolated house yeah and

00:26:54.369 --> 00:26:56.250
kill them yeah because at the end remember she's

00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:58.470
reading the note and it's you know it's narrated

00:26:58.470 --> 00:27:00.509
by the husband so it's like she found the note

00:27:00.509 --> 00:27:03.390
of the plan and everything so she knew and then

00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:05.049
she probably knew the history of the house so

00:27:05.049 --> 00:27:06.769
you know that was another thing to as well she

00:27:06.769 --> 00:27:09.130
already knew what to expect maybe of what they

00:27:09.130 --> 00:27:13.670
might try to do to her i intend to mail this

00:27:13.670 --> 00:27:16.950
letter today so that it will serve you as a warning

00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.299
I'm becoming desperate. I can't live without

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:25.539
you. I swear that if you don't leave your wife,

00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:34.450
I'll kill you. um yeah but you know and to to

00:27:34.450 --> 00:27:36.869
mikey's point the the character like the monster

00:27:36.869 --> 00:27:40.269
of this movie obviously is the standout and obviously

00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:43.009
is the marketing point on this and i guess you

00:27:43.009 --> 00:27:45.029
know if you go in thinking that this movie is

00:27:45.029 --> 00:27:48.349
going to be like a monster movie uh in as a whole

00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:50.650
without knowing that it's a actually a two -part

00:27:50.650 --> 00:27:53.430
anthology i can see where people would get a

00:27:53.430 --> 00:27:56.640
little um I guess I don't know. I don't know.

00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.059
Upset is the word. We're discouraged. You know,

00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:01.779
thinking that, you know, it's going to be one

00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:04.519
way and it actually is something else. So just

00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.880
keep that in mind when you do watch it. But yeah,

00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:08.960
I mean, the fucking the monster, like when he's

00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:10.559
in the when they're in the living room and he's

00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.400
talking to his wife. And you can see the monster

00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.960
standing outside the house through the window.

00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.160
There's some really super creepy images there.

00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:26.319
And again, I think it lends to Agustin's work

00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.680
and how he was able to frame everything inside

00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:38.619
the camera. But this is an anthology. is what

00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:41.220
maybe about 35 minutes maybe 40 minutes at the

00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:44.519
most i think the total run time on the the the

00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.099
entire movie was an hour 40 yeah the second one

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:50.619
being the longer one yeah an hour 40 i think

00:28:50.619 --> 00:28:54.980
it was like hour 38 yeah 38 minutes yeah shit

00:28:54.980 --> 00:28:57.660
okay yeah they're really long seconds yeah okay

00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:00.160
so they're like the first one the first one speeds

00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.670
really good Like you already start to see everything

00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:04.430
unravel. The second one, it's like it builds

00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:06.609
up little by little. So that's why it takes longer.

00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:10.809
Yeah. Which one do you prefer? This one over

00:29:10.809 --> 00:29:15.210
the second movie? Honestly, I never thought about

00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:18.950
that. I always like both, if anything. I think

00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:21.509
the second one was a little bit more like more

00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:24.329
of an existential type of philosophical point

00:29:24.329 --> 00:29:28.619
of view that. uh you know it was the which we'll

00:29:28.619 --> 00:29:31.720
get into more but was she real or not um and

00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:33.480
then this one was just like i felt like this

00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.039
first one was just in your face like oh here's

00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.920
a betrayal uh story and um you know a little

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.660
bit more easier to digest than the second yeah

00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:44.480
the second one you really don't know what to

00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.259
expect when you see it for the first time you're

00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.869
just like all right what's gonna happen Yeah.

00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:51.029
So the second let's get into the second story.

00:29:51.250 --> 00:29:54.769
It's, you know, kind of like you said, like,

00:29:54.829 --> 00:29:56.950
you know, the story is like I mean, I guess I

00:29:56.950 --> 00:29:58.789
didn't realize there were like 45 minutes each.

00:29:58.910 --> 00:30:02.950
But because not not a lot happens in that first

00:30:02.950 --> 00:30:05.190
one. I mean, it's like we said, you know, get

00:30:05.190 --> 00:30:08.250
to the house, you know, scares the wife, just

00:30:08.250 --> 00:30:12.009
brings the sunshine in. They end up dying. But

00:30:12.009 --> 00:30:15.940
the second movie. To me, the second movie felt

00:30:15.940 --> 00:30:20.940
way longer. I actually prefer Panico over the

00:30:20.940 --> 00:30:24.720
second story. It's called The Crypt of Terror

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.740
in English, the second one. Is that what it's

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:28.319
called? Because in Spanish it's called Miedo

00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.500
Supremo, which would be like supreme fear, like

00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:33.299
the ultimate fear, I guess. And the first one

00:30:33.299 --> 00:30:39.390
is called A Dead of Panic. I mean, yeah. that

00:30:39.390 --> 00:30:41.529
have funny people that didn't really speak that

00:30:41.529 --> 00:30:45.809
you know but anyways um yeah so this second story

00:30:45.809 --> 00:30:48.470
like mikey said and you know i alluded to earlier

00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:51.130
it's kind of like an existential crisis kind

00:30:51.130 --> 00:30:54.990
of questioning um questioning of faith questioning

00:30:54.990 --> 00:31:01.150
of um death questioning of life um but uh you

00:31:01.150 --> 00:31:03.609
know it was shot by ignacio torres who you know

00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:05.750
i don't know why they would have had two different

00:31:05.750 --> 00:31:09.349
cinematographers for for the movie I don't know

00:31:09.349 --> 00:31:11.569
if maybe they shot them both, you know, at the

00:31:11.569 --> 00:31:13.549
same time and just edited them together, which

00:31:13.549 --> 00:31:16.289
is kind of what I imagine. But I can't say that

00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:19.930
for sure. But this one was shot by Ignacio Torres,

00:31:20.109 --> 00:31:22.890
who, you know, prolific in his own way, had almost

00:31:22.890 --> 00:31:27.369
130 credits, you know, mainly worked from the

00:31:27.369 --> 00:31:29.829
golden age period, you know, in the mid 40s up

00:31:29.829 --> 00:31:33.170
until the late 60s when he died. But he also

00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:35.430
but he worked with, you know, Gilberto Martinez

00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:38.529
Solares. He worked with Rene Cardona, worked

00:31:38.529 --> 00:31:41.490
with Carlos Enrique Taboada. So he was a very

00:31:41.490 --> 00:31:44.630
well established cinematographer in his own right.

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:47.569
And there's not a lot that he could have done

00:31:47.569 --> 00:31:51.210
with the camera in this story. But there is some

00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:54.309
shots like and I know Mikey said it off off air.

00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:56.170
But, you know, when they're in the crypt and

00:31:56.170 --> 00:31:58.470
there's like shots of when. You know, you get

00:31:58.470 --> 00:32:00.450
the perspective of being at the bottom of this

00:32:00.450 --> 00:32:02.670
crypt looking up at the stairwell. I mean, there's

00:32:02.670 --> 00:32:04.589
some really, really good shots in this fucking

00:32:04.589 --> 00:32:09.289
in this story, too. But very simple plot. There's

00:32:09.289 --> 00:32:12.609
only really two main characters in the story.

00:32:13.309 --> 00:32:15.769
The first one is Dr. Javier Medina, who was played

00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:19.369
by Jorge Martinez de Hoyos. You know, another

00:32:19.369 --> 00:32:23.549
well -established actor, over 100 credits. He

00:32:23.549 --> 00:32:25.650
basically acted until the day he died, and he

00:32:25.650 --> 00:32:28.849
died in 1997, and that was his last credit. But,

00:32:28.910 --> 00:32:33.049
you know, I think a lot of younger fans would

00:32:33.049 --> 00:32:37.329
recognize his voice as the narrator in the underseen

00:32:37.329 --> 00:32:41.109
classic of Guillermo del Toro, Kronos. Oh, that's

00:32:41.109 --> 00:32:43.769
right, yeah. Really? Yeah, that's right, yeah.

00:32:44.569 --> 00:32:46.690
Oh, that movie. Yep, that's him, yeah. Exactly,

00:32:46.789 --> 00:32:49.970
yeah, yeah. We won't be talking about Kronos,

00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:52.049
but he was in Kronos. I never even heard of it.

00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:55.180
I don't even know what you're talking about.

00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.859
I don't know. It's a, it's pretty, it's a pretty

00:32:57.859 --> 00:33:02.339
rare movie. So, but it also stars Alicia Caro,

00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.819
who, you know, her credit, her, you know, title

00:33:05.819 --> 00:33:08.599
in the, in the movie is just Mujer del Altaud,

00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:10.940
which is just the woman in the crypt or the coffin.

00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.460
And the funny thing is they were actually, so

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.940
they actually met. So Jorge and Alicia, they

00:33:15.940 --> 00:33:18.460
met making this movie. And they ended up having

00:33:18.460 --> 00:33:20.319
a relationship and got married. Yeah, they were

00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.140
married until he died. And this was the movie

00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:25.079
where they first like worked together and met.

00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:29.599
And it's a romance blossom for me. What a way

00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:33.240
to start a relationship. I know, right? A buried

00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.140
alive. Yeah. Not really an isolated incident.

00:33:36.220 --> 00:33:38.859
As we know, we have many actors find love on

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.140
the set of a movie. This is the most funniest

00:33:41.140 --> 00:33:43.279
one. That's like, oh, okay. That was cool to

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:46.299
learn. The basic premise of this, as we've kind

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:49.359
of been saying, is this guy, Dr. Dr. Javier,

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:55.480
he shows up to this cemetery to kind of go visit

00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.559
his currently dead wife, goes down into this

00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.779
crypt where they're currently cementing in another

00:34:04.779 --> 00:34:08.199
body. The fucking bells ring and it's like, oh,

00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.320
that's it shifts over. Good God. You know, but

00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:15.440
in the meantime, he kind of. he passes out and

00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.860
he gets locked up into this crypt with a dead

00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:22.659
body and i guess my question to you guys is do

00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:25.820
you think that she was actually dead in this

00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:27.840
movie and she was just kind of an apparition

00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:32.059
to him or was she actually buried alive what

00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:34.440
do you think that's a hard one actually because

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.400
it's so hard to tell like i think i think it

00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.039
was just all interpretation like i think it was

00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.940
all just all in his head though if anything But

00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:45.920
it's so hard to tell because they do at the end

00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.480
show him trying to fix everything that was destroyed.

00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:51.739
But then it's like, well, we don't even know

00:34:51.739 --> 00:34:54.719
if that was real. Yeah, I mean, he could have

00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.320
been imagining that that was his wife's crypt

00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.539
as well. That was another thing. Yeah, he was

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:03.119
still in mourning. Yeah, that's exactly what

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.619
my interpretation was of this one because this

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:07.119
one runs a little bit slower. It's a little bit

00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.679
more dialogue and stuff. And I felt it was more

00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.389
of like, you know, reflection of his past wife

00:35:14.389 --> 00:35:17.210
and I actually felt like this segment like was

00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:19.690
kind of like touching on communication issues

00:35:19.690 --> 00:35:23.929
between male and female in a way because he does

00:35:23.929 --> 00:35:27.190
snap at some point also too and it's just like

00:35:27.190 --> 00:35:30.429
I felt like maybe that this was like him dragging

00:35:30.429 --> 00:35:33.489
possible stuff from the past and kind of like

00:35:33.489 --> 00:35:35.789
this is where it's like so weird it could be

00:35:35.789 --> 00:35:38.530
psychological and it's just up into interpretation

00:35:38.530 --> 00:35:41.730
because there's no real definitive answer to

00:35:41.730 --> 00:35:43.769
this it's just like well what do you interpret

00:35:43.769 --> 00:35:47.750
from this it could be uh that she's just an actual

00:35:47.750 --> 00:35:49.929
person that's alive or just dead and it's just

00:35:49.929 --> 00:35:52.639
like And there's really no answers to this movie.

00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.980
And I felt like this one was more of the harder

00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:57.320
one to kind of interpret compared to the first

00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.199
segment. And the thing is, that does happen,

00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:00.780
especially back in the day. You would hear about

00:36:00.780 --> 00:36:03.179
people getting buried alive or they think they're

00:36:03.179 --> 00:36:05.059
dead, but they're not dead. So that could have

00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:08.300
been an incident, too, that happened. Yeah. I

00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:11.980
mean, you brought up a good point where he snaps

00:36:11.980 --> 00:36:14.239
at her a lot. Like, he's very aggressive with

00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.659
her because she, you know, when we see her. out

00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:22.400
of this coffin she's kind of unaware of what's

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.239
actually happening there's actually you know

00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.119
i'm kind of glad you said that because it reminded

00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.880
me of a shot where the camera was inside the

00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:33.760
mausoleum like in her crypt i guess um looking

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.760
out and she was already outside of her coffin

00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.039
standing out and you know and kind of like the

00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.219
little um standing area with him but she's kind

00:36:43.219 --> 00:36:46.659
of i don't want to say manic but she she's very

00:36:46.659 --> 00:36:50.170
um what's the word i'm looking for she's very

00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:54.269
sensitive to like noises that are that happening

00:36:54.269 --> 00:36:57.969
inside she's nervous about the darkness uh and

00:36:57.969 --> 00:36:59.969
i'm sure that could be an interpretation to kind

00:36:59.969 --> 00:37:01.670
of remember there's like a little turtle remember

00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:03.570
that a little girl that by accident and then

00:37:03.570 --> 00:37:05.630
she got super freaked out by the turtle too i

00:37:05.630 --> 00:37:07.349
mean everything i mean there was like a plank

00:37:07.349 --> 00:37:09.469
of wood that fell she you know she freaked out

00:37:09.469 --> 00:37:12.389
yeah um there was there weren't enough candles

00:37:12.389 --> 00:37:15.170
to light up the you know the the crypt at night

00:37:15.170 --> 00:37:17.690
so she was freaking out about that and he's he

00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:19.510
gets pretty aggressive with her to the point

00:37:19.510 --> 00:37:21.510
where, you know, you actually thought that he

00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:26.030
might actually hit her and harm her. I was right.

00:37:27.269 --> 00:37:31.730
Another wick has been extinguished. They're coming

00:37:31.730 --> 00:37:37.289
nearer now. They're extinguishing all the torches.

00:37:37.909 --> 00:37:41.230
Come back here. You mustn't think about it. They're

00:37:41.230 --> 00:37:45.170
in here. I know they are. They're after me. It's

00:37:45.170 --> 00:37:47.500
logical. The humidity of the crypt is coming

00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:49.699
toward us from that direction. These pots here

00:37:49.699 --> 00:37:51.679
are the last ones to be affected by us. That's

00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.360
why they're the last ones to go out. It's plain,

00:37:54.500 --> 00:37:57.619
pure logic. Don't you understand? Don't lie to

00:37:57.619 --> 00:38:02.300
me. They're doing it. They're in here. They're

00:38:02.300 --> 00:38:04.800
closing in to take me back with them. Don't talk

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.579
nonsense. You must reason. Let me go. Let go

00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:12.369
of me. They're coming after me. It's as dark

00:38:12.369 --> 00:38:14.989
in here as it was inside the casket. You've got

00:38:14.989 --> 00:38:20.489
to stop them. They're coming after me. They're

00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:23.650
going to put me back inside that horrible coffin.

00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:37.289
You've got to get a hold of yourself. So that

00:38:37.289 --> 00:38:41.070
actually is a pretty good, you know, a good call

00:38:41.070 --> 00:38:43.170
out there about, you know, communication between,

00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:46.809
and maybe it was some kind of, you know, history

00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:49.389
between this guy and his wife. Maybe that was,

00:38:49.389 --> 00:38:52.070
you know, his wife's, you know, spirit coming

00:38:52.070 --> 00:38:55.530
back in the form of a, of a zombie. Yeah. And

00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:57.250
that's the thing is it's never explained. It's

00:38:57.250 --> 00:38:58.969
never explained with anything. You know, you

00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:01.650
just, all you know is he's mourning his, his

00:39:01.650 --> 00:39:05.300
ex wife, but you don't know if like. there's

00:39:05.300 --> 00:39:07.699
regret involved with that morning or there's

00:39:07.699 --> 00:39:10.699
like remorse for stuff that could have happened

00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:12.719
because we don't know the whole extent or story

00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.460
and like you know people you know you take your

00:39:15.460 --> 00:39:18.199
baggage sometimes into other relationships and

00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.159
stuff like that or how you communicate with others

00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.820
and it just felt like there was like i said it's

00:39:22.820 --> 00:39:25.800
all just interpretation of like how how do you

00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:27.559
i feel like sometimes though when you're like

00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.440
thinking it from it from this point of view it's

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.059
just you know it's just kind of like uh you're

00:39:32.059 --> 00:39:34.159
filling in the gaps and projecting a little bit

00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:35.880
when it's like there's nothing really there to

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.000
work with i don't know yeah well that's kind

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.760
of the the problem with this movie is that uh

00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.099
or this segment i should say is that um there

00:39:44.099 --> 00:39:47.219
are a lot of blanks and because it is a two -story

00:39:47.219 --> 00:39:50.380
narrative you don't really have a full 90 minutes

00:39:50.380 --> 00:39:54.340
to fledge out all of the uh um the internal monologue

00:39:54.340 --> 00:39:56.119
that this guy would have been having and kind

00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.280
of setting things up because he really he shows

00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.550
up to this fucking cemetery like 20 minutes before

00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:03.889
it's closing time it's like okay well if you

00:40:03.889 --> 00:40:05.309
really cared you would have showed up earlier

00:40:05.309 --> 00:40:08.889
like what the fuck are you doing um i don't know

00:40:08.889 --> 00:40:10.550
but that is good though there's a lot of interpretation

00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:13.010
so when you watch this movie or if you've seen

00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:15.510
it yeah i really i really want to hear you guys

00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:17.289
tell me what you guys think you need to tell

00:40:17.289 --> 00:40:19.389
us yeah i want to hear other interpretations

00:40:19.389 --> 00:40:22.489
and like we keep telling you guys you know hit

00:40:22.489 --> 00:40:24.949
us up we want to we're we want to create dialogue

00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:27.250
about these movies because if you look this one

00:40:27.250 --> 00:40:30.639
up um And I guess this is kind of will lend into

00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.460
the next question that I wanted to ask both of

00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:35.599
you guys is that, you know, this is kind of a

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:40.500
rare underseen movie. You know, when I looked

00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:42.380
it up on Letterboxd, there was less than 200

00:40:42.380 --> 00:40:46.880
views logged on it. Oh, wow. With that terrible

00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:48.960
DVD cover. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to fix that

00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.760
too. I'm going to fix that. I'm going to fix

00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.340
that. I'm going to fix that after the show. I

00:40:52.340 --> 00:40:54.719
was literally texting Armando this week being

00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.780
like, you know, I was looking up of like, what

00:40:56.780 --> 00:41:00.260
releases has this movie had? And the dollar,

00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.559
the dollar store one that I saw. Oh yeah. With

00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.380
the faces. Yeah. So bad. And it's just like,

00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:07.800
you can look at it and you're like, oh, this

00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:11.360
was like a, a big lots, a 25 cent, like last

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.960
chance clearance type of DVD. Yeah. I have that

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.900
one. I bought it at the 99 cents. He bought it

00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:20.460
at pick and save. Literally like a dollar store.

00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:22.820
They used to have that one a lot. Well, that's

00:41:22.820 --> 00:41:25.360
kind of a shame because this movie deserves way

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.039
more than that. You know, the stories are very

00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.500
basic, but I think there is a lot that, you know,

00:41:30.500 --> 00:41:33.119
as we kind of alluded to, like there's a lot

00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.320
to interpret in these movies. If you really want

00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.659
to look deep inside, you know, the narrative,

00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:40.860
but you know, my question to both of you and,

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.679
you know, I guess we can start with Armando is

00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:47.750
where do you think this movie. um stands in the

00:41:47.750 --> 00:41:50.610
you know the lexicon of mexican horror movies

00:41:50.610 --> 00:41:54.789
because of how underseen it is um i mean when

00:41:54.789 --> 00:41:56.710
you think about mexican horror of that era you

00:41:56.710 --> 00:42:00.409
just think monsters vampires like pulpy pulpy

00:42:00.409 --> 00:42:01.829
stuff you know all that stuff that everybody

00:42:01.829 --> 00:42:04.050
obviously really likes and i like it too but

00:42:04.050 --> 00:42:06.389
you know there's still more layers of horror

00:42:06.389 --> 00:42:07.949
than just stuff like that you know there's your

00:42:07.949 --> 00:42:11.170
psychological horror You know, stuff like that.

00:42:11.250 --> 00:42:13.110
And this kind of falls into that category. I

00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:14.570
think a lot of this is a lot of psychological

00:42:14.570 --> 00:42:16.610
stuff in here. But a lot of people aren't really

00:42:16.610 --> 00:42:18.489
into it. That's the thing. That's the thing that

00:42:18.489 --> 00:42:20.190
I really, like, kind of get annoyed with people.

00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:23.329
I'm sorry to say. Like, some people just don't

00:42:23.329 --> 00:42:25.090
like psychological stuff as they should. They

00:42:25.090 --> 00:42:27.050
always want just the straight -in -your -face

00:42:27.050 --> 00:42:29.530
horror, you know, fucking, like, Art the Clown

00:42:29.530 --> 00:42:31.610
type of shit. You know, it's like, I don't give

00:42:31.610 --> 00:42:33.230
a fuck about seeing a clown killing people. I

00:42:33.230 --> 00:42:35.030
want to see why this person's doing it, you know?

00:42:35.289 --> 00:42:37.090
Like, if I want to see Art the Clown, I want

00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:38.750
to know why is Art the Clown the way he is. But

00:42:38.750 --> 00:42:39.960
they don't even fucking tell you. Because they

00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.860
don't care. They just want to see you see him

00:42:41.860 --> 00:42:44.059
doing stuff. Yeah. So for the record, I think

00:42:44.059 --> 00:42:46.239
Terrifier fucking sucks. Yeah. So that's what

00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.820
I'm trying to say. So that's an example. I'm

00:42:47.820 --> 00:42:49.239
trying to say it's like people want to just see

00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:50.659
stuff like that. They want to see the vampires.

00:42:50.780 --> 00:42:52.840
They want to see the Frankensteins. But it's

00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.300
like, well, what about like the people that are

00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:56.280
not crazy or ugly like that? What if they're

00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.760
just regular people dealing with everyday life

00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.380
stuff, you know, like mourning deaths or betraying

00:43:02.380 --> 00:43:04.219
their spouses and trying to get their monies

00:43:04.219 --> 00:43:06.300
and stuff? It's like that stuff. real life it's

00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:08.099
scary too you know that's actually really scary

00:43:08.099 --> 00:43:11.320
shit too and and like going back and you know

00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.179
what i was talking about earlier about the advertising

00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.360
for this movie especially on the on the lobby

00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.059
cards and stuff is like presenting it as you

00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:20.300
know some kind of ghoul or monster and when it's

00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:23.480
like actually not that not even it's ironic but

00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.599
yeah but that's the selling point yeah the monster

00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.699
as we learn is our people yeah it's like you

00:43:30.699 --> 00:43:32.579
know what there is really no monster the real

00:43:32.579 --> 00:43:36.829
monsters is just us inside And just wanted to

00:43:36.829 --> 00:43:39.070
compliment too, because, you know, when you,

00:43:39.090 --> 00:43:41.590
when you gave hope the, the poster to restore

00:43:41.590 --> 00:43:43.769
it, that was like one of the cleanest posters

00:43:43.769 --> 00:43:46.610
you have given her. And I was like, man, this

00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:50.789
looks sick, dude. Nobody has like, you can tell

00:43:50.789 --> 00:43:52.250
it was probably never even used when I first

00:43:52.250 --> 00:43:53.630
got it. I remember when I opened it, I was like,

00:43:53.670 --> 00:43:55.730
Oh, this has never been used. It was beautiful.

00:43:55.929 --> 00:43:58.750
It was beautiful. And like, you know, there was

00:43:58.750 --> 00:44:00.690
no staining or wear on it. And I was like, wow,

00:44:00.710 --> 00:44:03.769
dude, this is like literally like a, what? Almost.

00:44:04.409 --> 00:44:06.530
60 year old poster at this point. Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:06.750 --> 00:44:08.550
Yeah. When I got it, I was like, Oh wow. It's

00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:09.869
even better than I thought. You know, I was expecting

00:44:09.869 --> 00:44:13.389
the usual wear and tear. Yeah. Nothing. It was,

00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:16.150
it is 60 years. Yeah. Yeah. It's just be a 60th

00:44:16.150 --> 00:44:20.199
year. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Oh wow. Well,

00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.760
I mean, what are your kind of closing thoughts?

00:44:23.860 --> 00:44:26.460
Like, where do you think this stands in kind

00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:29.800
of the world of Mexican horror movies? I think

00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.659
this is like, you know, touching on what Armando

00:44:31.659 --> 00:44:34.139
was saying, a lot of like even recently just

00:44:34.139 --> 00:44:38.000
getting the indicator Mexico box set of stuff.

00:44:38.019 --> 00:44:41.900
And it is like. You know, it's these people are

00:44:41.900 --> 00:44:44.320
chasing these creature type of things. And like

00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.940
I said, with the advertising, it kind of like

00:44:45.940 --> 00:44:47.940
sells it to you as this is going to be like a

00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:50.880
haunted ghoul type of monster, maybe chasing

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.619
around people and everything like that. And the

00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:55.239
reality is it is not that type of movie at all.

00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.059
And it just felt very different from what I've

00:44:59.059 --> 00:45:02.019
seen. And I think that's what kind of like drew

00:45:02.019 --> 00:45:04.000
me to this movie a little bit more. It was just

00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.119
like, you know, I'm usually not an anthology

00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:11.289
guy. I'm not huge on anthology. Yeah, they're

00:45:11.289 --> 00:45:12.869
hit or miss. Yeah, very hit or miss. That's what

00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:14.610
I was going to say, too. Even with stuff like

00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:17.289
Creepshow, I'm just like, oh, it's cool. But

00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:19.590
I'm not like, oh, my God, anthology, anthology,

00:45:19.590 --> 00:45:23.289
anthology. I love this, but I thought this was

00:45:23.289 --> 00:45:25.849
probably my favorite one that I've seen beyond

00:45:25.849 --> 00:45:29.550
Tales from the Crypt, the 70s British one and

00:45:29.550 --> 00:45:34.889
stuff. So I think it was awesome because bringing...

00:45:35.260 --> 00:45:38.219
an anthology aspect like that and if like i said

00:45:38.219 --> 00:45:41.280
before it felt like very like edgar allen poe

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.460
type of like cautionary tales of like delving

00:45:44.460 --> 00:45:46.659
into like the darkness of the psych and everything

00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:49.340
like that when it you know people wanted monster

00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:52.420
stuff um i don't know i thought i thought this

00:45:52.420 --> 00:45:56.099
is great i hope more people can actually see

00:45:56.099 --> 00:46:01.119
a Really good version of this. Yeah, there's

00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.940
shitty versions on YouTube, and I'm sure wherever

00:46:04.940 --> 00:46:08.119
else you guys want to try to find it. But, again,

00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:12.300
that version on YouTube is pretty bad. The audio

00:46:12.300 --> 00:46:15.599
is terrible. The image isn't even straight. It's,

00:46:15.619 --> 00:46:19.860
like, crooked. Washed out. Yeah, super washed

00:46:19.860 --> 00:46:22.340
out. Yeah, yeah, fucking, you know, blurry as

00:46:22.340 --> 00:46:26.500
shit. I do think that this movie deserves more

00:46:26.500 --> 00:46:29.659
credit than it currently has. And I'm sure once

00:46:29.659 --> 00:46:33.780
people start to discover it and find it and watch

00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:37.340
it, you know, it'll kind of explode in kind of

00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:40.179
the world of Mexican horror movies, because as

00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:42.940
both of you guys said, and I agree completely,

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.500
you know, this. This movie doesn't deal with

00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:49.340
with monsters. And if and if you want to quantify

00:46:49.340 --> 00:46:51.639
it as as it does, you know, the monsters are

00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:56.539
as humans. Right. So that's kind of the the the

00:46:56.539 --> 00:47:00.039
the basic of both of these stories is that, you

00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.340
know, humans are at the forefront and it's really

00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:05.920
the scariest part of the movie is, you know,

00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.159
kind of what these humans are either doing to

00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.269
each other or doing to themselves. And I know

00:47:12.269 --> 00:47:14.809
that's not something that especially for this

00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:17.349
era, you know, that Mexican horror is kind of

00:47:17.349 --> 00:47:20.230
known for. But, you know, it really, you know,

00:47:20.230 --> 00:47:23.889
kind of dives into, you know, social issues of

00:47:23.889 --> 00:47:26.590
Mexico at the time, I think. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:47:27.619 --> 00:47:29.599
100%. Yeah. So, I mean, if you have a chance

00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.619
to watch it, you know, you should have came to

00:47:31.619 --> 00:47:34.320
the couple screenings that these fools had. And

00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.119
if you didn't, you fucked up. What can I say?

00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.219
I don't know. We'll figure something out. We'll

00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:40.400
probably play it again or something. Like I told

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:41.820
Mike, we'll probably just dupe it on Blu -ray

00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:43.960
or something. I don't know. We'll do something.

00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:46.260
But you guys better watch it. You better watch

00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:48.360
it, and you better support, because if they do

00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.199
put it out, there's no better way to watch it

00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.360
than this print. Granted, it is an English dub,

00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.920
so you get a little bit of that cheapness. And

00:47:57.920 --> 00:47:59.559
if you're watching movies on YouTube, I think

00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.869
you need a... see a doctor if you're watching

00:48:03.869 --> 00:48:05.789
movies on youtube like that like with that really

00:48:05.789 --> 00:48:07.550
bad quality there's something really wrong with

00:48:07.550 --> 00:48:09.969
you like honestly like sometimes like i just

00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:12.329
like i know some stuff you're just like you know

00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:13.650
this is the only way you're gonna be able to

00:48:13.650 --> 00:48:15.389
find it or whatever it's like this shitty rip

00:48:15.389 --> 00:48:18.789
and everything but it's like do you want to like

00:48:18.789 --> 00:48:20.869
even though this is the only way you're gonna

00:48:20.869 --> 00:48:23.630
watch it it's just like not even enjoyable at

00:48:23.630 --> 00:48:26.750
that point like it's like i don't know it's even

00:48:26.750 --> 00:48:31.400
it feels like like a fourth generation vh vhs

00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:33.739
dupe like down to that point where it's so washed

00:48:33.739 --> 00:48:36.159
out that it's just like this is shadows this

00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.960
is all just pixels at this point it's not even

00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.039
it's not even videos it's just pixels well this

00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.119
is a huge digression here but what kind of responsibility

00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.840
do you think these you know quote unquote boutique

00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.920
labels have to kind of restore these type of

00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.119
movies i mean like you know granted this this

00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.659
movie in particular is pretty criminally underseen

00:48:55.659 --> 00:49:00.440
but you know Why do you think companies, let's

00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.679
say, I don't want to call companies out by name,

00:49:02.780 --> 00:49:06.360
but why wouldn't some of these companies want

00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.659
to jump on this movie? Is it rights issues? Is

00:49:09.659 --> 00:49:12.739
it because it's a public domain movie? Is there

00:49:12.739 --> 00:49:18.199
not enough fan demand for it? What do you guys

00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:19.539
think? It's just like I told you before. People

00:49:19.539 --> 00:49:21.519
just want in -your -face shit. They want to see

00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.699
the monster, the killer. They don't care about

00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:27.980
the stories or anything serious. And I will admit

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:31.179
to this because I was one of these people where

00:49:31.179 --> 00:49:34.650
if something was in black and white. I would

00:49:34.650 --> 00:49:37.070
kind of push it to the side. Yeah. Yeah, that's

00:49:37.070 --> 00:49:40.710
another thing. There's a little more, less interest

00:49:40.710 --> 00:49:42.849
of people wanting to see black and white films.

00:49:42.969 --> 00:49:44.929
Like, even with some of the tours and stuff,

00:49:45.050 --> 00:49:46.730
you know, touring around Prince and everything

00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:50.289
like that, you know, I'd be so excited with the

00:49:50.289 --> 00:49:51.730
black and white stuff. Like, one of my favorite

00:49:51.730 --> 00:49:55.150
things that I did was the Violent Years and Teenage

00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:57.829
Crime Wave. It was like a criminal black and

00:49:57.829 --> 00:49:58.530
white double. Yeah, the Violent Years was fucking

00:49:58.530 --> 00:50:01.320
dope. Yeah, and it's like... I was like so excited.

00:50:01.420 --> 00:50:03.739
I'm like, oh, this is like my favorite double

00:50:03.739 --> 00:50:05.619
I've done. And, you know, you play something

00:50:05.619 --> 00:50:08.519
like this and like 12 people come out and you're

00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.960
just kind of like, wait, but this is the thing

00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.920
I was most excited about. And it's just like

00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.980
it's hard to get people excited for black and

00:50:15.980 --> 00:50:18.099
white stuff or to even give it a chance. And

00:50:18.099 --> 00:50:21.000
I was ignorant like that at one point. And I

00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.420
think. Um, you know, watching a bunch of more

00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:27.239
like noir and stuff with hope. Um, it's really

00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.360
like opened me up to being like, Hey, this shit's

00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.139
actually like really good. And like, I think

00:50:31.139 --> 00:50:33.539
in the last few years I've been more open to

00:50:33.539 --> 00:50:35.800
black and white stuff these days. Oh yeah. You

00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.980
got to give the old stuff a chance. Yeah. Color,

00:50:38.019 --> 00:50:40.730
no color. You have to give it a chance. What

00:50:40.730 --> 00:50:43.389
about sound? No sound? You into silent movies?

00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:47.750
I haven't hit that yet. He just started watching

00:50:47.750 --> 00:50:51.929
Black and White. I'm easing it. I just barely

00:50:51.929 --> 00:50:56.630
started. We've been revisiting a lot of the older

00:50:56.630 --> 00:51:01.369
type of 30s, 40s cinema with these grand dancing

00:51:01.369 --> 00:51:03.809
schemes and everything. I was never open to this

00:51:03.809 --> 00:51:06.230
stuff. I'm watching it and I'm like, I see why

00:51:06.230 --> 00:51:08.289
people still talk about it today. This stuff

00:51:08.289 --> 00:51:10.960
is actually pretty good. I think there's a lane

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.480
for everybody. Um, I, myself am also not really,

00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.599
especially when it comes to like the thirties,

00:51:16.659 --> 00:51:19.639
forties, uh, fifties is kind of pushing it for

00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.139
me. Not because I don't particularly like it.

00:51:22.179 --> 00:51:24.880
It's just that I just don't really, I don't know.

00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.280
I don't really go back that far, but you know,

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.760
there's, there's movies for everybody. And I'm

00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.019
glad that there's at least someone talking about,

00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:35.460
you know, whatever style of, of a movie that

00:51:35.460 --> 00:51:38.519
people want to watch. Um, because if not, then,

00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.329
you know, those movies will die you know the

00:51:41.329 --> 00:51:45.070
the actors will die the legacy of those uh you

00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:47.329
know artists will die yeah and then if you're

00:51:47.329 --> 00:51:49.650
a fan of ramona bones movies you know like vampiro

00:51:49.650 --> 00:51:51.090
and all that you have to see hunter cries of

00:51:51.090 --> 00:51:53.789
terror yeah if you really respect them as a writer

00:51:53.789 --> 00:51:56.550
and then him being him only directing this movie

00:51:56.550 --> 00:51:59.030
it's like you have to see this you have to see

00:51:59.030 --> 00:52:00.869
what else he had to offer before he died because

00:52:00.869 --> 00:52:04.030
this is literally like his last movie ever yeah

00:52:04.030 --> 00:52:06.829
and you know like you know exactly to armando's

00:52:06.829 --> 00:52:09.429
point i mean a lot of people praise his work

00:52:09.429 --> 00:52:12.449
that he's done as a writer um but they only want

00:52:12.449 --> 00:52:15.230
to praise you know the stuff that everybody already

00:52:15.230 --> 00:52:17.070
knows yeah you got to give his other stuff a

00:52:17.070 --> 00:52:19.929
chance even his film mores and dramas but again

00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:23.010
i think that also lands into and i don't i don't

00:52:23.010 --> 00:52:25.590
want to you know point blame at any at any company

00:52:25.590 --> 00:52:28.190
but i do think that these companies have a responsibility

00:52:28.190 --> 00:52:34.110
to um to expand their reach with certain movies.

00:52:34.269 --> 00:52:37.789
I mean, it's easy for me to say as a fan and

00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:40.510
not as part of being in the industry, in the

00:52:40.510 --> 00:52:43.869
business, to have to pay money to release these

00:52:43.869 --> 00:52:46.210
movies that maybe people don't want to watch.

00:52:46.289 --> 00:52:48.369
Maybe they don't even know they want to watch

00:52:48.369 --> 00:52:52.199
these movies. You know, you got to give them

00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.659
a chance, you know, because eventually these

00:52:53.659 --> 00:52:55.460
movies are going to fucking disappear. You know,

00:52:55.980 --> 00:52:57.880
you know, look how hard it was for for this will

00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.159
make you to find a 16 millimeter print just to

00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.940
keep it, you know, in circulation and surviving.

00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.059
You know, if you know who knows what would happen

00:53:05.059 --> 00:53:07.320
if some other bozo would have came and bought

00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.940
the lot. I mean, what the fuck is this? And just

00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:10.639
tossed it, you know, and you would have been

00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:12.679
stuck with either no prints or a shitty print.

00:53:14.860 --> 00:53:16.519
Because I don't know. I mean, I'm at this point

00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:20.519
I'm just ranting, but. you know seek these movies

00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.679
out they they they are enjoyable this movie is

00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.719
uh is really good i don't want to speak for you

00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.380
know these two guys here but you know i can almost

00:53:29.380 --> 00:53:32.179
guarantee that the majority of people will enjoy

00:53:32.179 --> 00:53:36.480
this movie um either both stories or one or the

00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.539
other yeah and like i said everybody that's told

00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:40.340
me that i've seen it or that i've came to the

00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:42.860
straining they all loved it they all had really

00:53:42.860 --> 00:53:44.780
good thing to say about it they never once said

00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:47.159
it was just okay it was always just like it was

00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.840
really good Or it was okay. Like, nope, nothing

00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:51.590
like that. It was always, it was good. And you

00:53:51.590 --> 00:53:53.630
missed out if you didn't come to any of the screenings.

00:53:53.710 --> 00:53:57.309
They fucked up. People are weird. Y 'all want

00:53:57.309 --> 00:54:01.210
to go see Terrifier Part 5 or whatever. Meanwhile,

00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:06.250
that fool is in a new lawsuit right now. Whatever,

00:54:06.369 --> 00:54:07.829
I don't want to talk about that. You know what

00:54:07.829 --> 00:54:09.949
I mean. I'm just saying people need to give other

00:54:09.949 --> 00:54:11.789
things a chance. If they really want to see horror,

00:54:12.050 --> 00:54:14.409
you have to see all aspects of horror, not just

00:54:14.409 --> 00:54:16.449
what you're familiar with or what you think is

00:54:16.449 --> 00:54:18.329
the only good stuff. But it's like, what chance

00:54:18.329 --> 00:54:23.179
do you get really? Even here in LA, to see a

00:54:23.179 --> 00:54:27.730
Mexican movie on actual film. like even here

00:54:27.730 --> 00:54:30.269
in la or outside or anywhere it's just like i

00:54:30.269 --> 00:54:31.809
don't know those type of things i'm like yeah

00:54:31.809 --> 00:54:33.570
this doesn't come up and that's the type of stuff

00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:35.929
that i'm attracted to when it comes to going

00:54:35.929 --> 00:54:37.889
to screenings it's like oh you're not going to

00:54:37.889 --> 00:54:40.230
see this again for like maybe another five to

00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:42.670
ten years if it even comes up and it's just like

00:54:42.670 --> 00:54:45.769
you go and and relish in those moments of stuff

00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:48.690
and i i felt like these screenings were kind

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:52.070
of that and um yeah hopefully we find more prints

00:54:52.070 --> 00:54:54.840
and hopefully we can place hopefully some more

00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.800
stuff in 2026 on actual film. Yeah, that's the

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.179
goal. Hopefully I'm, I'm hoping you guys find

00:55:01.179 --> 00:55:03.960
more prints because you know, the crowd needs

00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.360
it, man. You know, especially now there's, there's

00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.579
kind of been a, like a resurgence or not. I don't

00:55:08.579 --> 00:55:10.320
know if resurgence is the word, but kind of a,

00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:15.579
an influx of, you know, Hispanic, Latin, whatever

00:55:15.579 --> 00:55:19.940
you, you know, label yourself. viewers that are

00:55:19.940 --> 00:55:22.460
going to movies now you know like they they actually

00:55:22.460 --> 00:55:24.659
want to seek it out granted you know i don't

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:26.440
know how often they're going to see you know

00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:29.260
mexican movies or south american movies or latin

00:55:29.260 --> 00:55:31.480
american movies but you know i think the more

00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.400
you know uh these type of movies screen i think

00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.500
the the bigger the audience is going to get and

00:55:36.500 --> 00:55:39.019
i think that will you know hopefully we'll start

00:55:39.019 --> 00:55:41.500
to create a demand for labels to release these

00:55:41.500 --> 00:55:43.960
kind of movies That's what I always try to tell

00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.800
people. If you see stuff like this playing, you

00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:47.739
have to support it because then we're not going

00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:49.900
to get anything later. I miss Santo Sundays,

00:55:50.139 --> 00:55:55.679
man. That's like a perfect example. It's like,

00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.599
who was playing Santo movies before? Not really.

00:55:58.699 --> 00:56:00.860
I know Viviana had screenings here and there,

00:56:00.980 --> 00:56:03.000
but then it's like a whole marathon. We did four

00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.260
fucking months. Yeah, and I'm just saying, and

00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:07.500
now after that, I'm not going to... call out

00:56:07.500 --> 00:56:09.380
anybody but it's like then all of a sudden people

00:56:09.380 --> 00:56:11.860
wanted to show lucha stuff yeah but it's cool

00:56:11.860 --> 00:56:13.239
though but either way it's like hey at least

00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.199
it encouraged people to at least put it out more

00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:16.960
you know so that's what I'm saying like if you

00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:18.639
see stuff like that yeah like create a demand

00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:20.420
for it yeah if it's not gonna be at least do

00:56:20.420 --> 00:56:22.599
it yourself if you can you know and the screenings

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.260
went well at Frida like they kept period like

00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:28.260
every screening kept going up more and more oh

00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:31.440
yeah and I was just I was actually very surprised

00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:33.739
by it and it's just the response to that again

00:56:33.739 --> 00:56:36.320
and if we ever get the chance again to do that

00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.900
maybe in 2026 that would be fantastic oh yeah

00:56:39.900 --> 00:56:43.239
for sure that's what I'm trying to say 2026,

00:56:43.460 --> 00:56:46.679
man. The year of Trash Make See It On 16 film

00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.800
revival. book it i'm calling it now 2026 big

00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.420
year big year yeah um okay well let's wind it

00:56:54.420 --> 00:56:57.619
down here um you know any any upcoming shows

00:56:57.619 --> 00:57:00.139
that you want to promote this is going to be

00:57:00.139 --> 00:57:03.239
live on starting this this monday so anything

00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:06.840
past this monday shout it out this this uh so

00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.380
what's happening this past monday i mean this

00:57:09.380 --> 00:57:12.480
monday coming up uh for the the rest of november

00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:18.170
is uh sleep eat watch movies uh taking the next

00:57:18.170 --> 00:57:21.949
four weeks off and um i'm staying home uh i don't

00:57:21.949 --> 00:57:24.110
have to go back to projecting until december

00:57:24.110 --> 00:57:28.010
5th um december finishing off the year with uh

00:57:28.010 --> 00:57:30.849
it's a wonderful life matinees and then also

00:57:30.849 --> 00:57:35.210
touring a um 16 millimeter print of black christmas

00:57:35.210 --> 00:57:38.690
from bob clark and then this one tripped out

00:57:39.369 --> 00:57:42.469
fucking movie from san rio called uh nutcracker

00:57:42.469 --> 00:57:44.690
fantasy yeah i think it's fantasy nutcracker

00:57:44.690 --> 00:57:47.389
i keep nutcracker fantasy it sounds like it could

00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:50.030
be a porno title name or something yeah i can't

00:57:50.030 --> 00:57:51.769
mix them up yeah yeah that one i'm gonna see

00:57:51.769 --> 00:57:54.550
for sure yeah so san rio put this out i'm gonna

00:57:54.550 --> 00:57:59.090
be um doing i think two shows with uh alex from

00:57:59.090 --> 00:58:02.340
prs And we're going to be touring that print

00:58:02.340 --> 00:58:07.119
around Art Theater Long Beach and PRS. That's

00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.219
pretty much it. And then just enjoying the holidays

00:58:10.219 --> 00:58:14.780
and having downtime, man. Because it's been crazy,

00:58:14.860 --> 00:58:18.699
crazy. We were counting everything. And within

00:58:18.699 --> 00:58:22.280
the last three, four years of all this, I've

00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:27.179
done close to over 350 shows now. And I'm just

00:58:27.179 --> 00:58:29.429
like... It's catching up with me. I'm getting

00:58:29.429 --> 00:58:32.210
a lot more gray hairs now. I didn't want to say

00:58:32.210 --> 00:58:36.730
it, but I'm like, damn. At least you still have

00:58:36.730 --> 00:58:39.570
hair, man. I lost mine. And it didn't take 300

00:58:39.570 --> 00:58:44.449
screenings for me. All right. Well, you know,

00:58:44.489 --> 00:58:48.230
you heard it here. If you see it on 16 coming

00:58:48.230 --> 00:58:50.389
to a theater near you, go fucking support that

00:58:50.389 --> 00:58:54.389
shit, man. Don't be a lame. Don't be a fool made

00:58:54.389 --> 00:58:56.869
of plastic, man. Go show up, support, you know.

00:58:57.889 --> 00:59:01.489
As far as for the podcast, December is going

00:59:01.489 --> 00:59:05.920
to be. I mean, personally, I think it's going

00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.440
to be a great episode. I even put the poster

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.360
up. Yeah, I saw that. I've been preparing. I

00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.659
want to say it now because I know people are

00:59:16.659 --> 00:59:19.519
going to think it, but this episode has been

00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.199
in the works for about a year now that we've

00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.380
been talking about it. Yeah, that's true. So

00:59:25.380 --> 00:59:29.619
it's not because of newfound popularity that's

00:59:29.619 --> 00:59:31.900
going on right now. Yeah, it actually intertwined

00:59:31.900 --> 00:59:34.650
with that. I know. completely shocked i didn't

00:59:34.650 --> 00:59:36.329
even know that that special was happening yeah

00:59:36.329 --> 00:59:38.610
i forgot that was coming out yeah um we have

00:59:38.610 --> 00:59:41.929
that in december january we haven't booked it

00:59:41.929 --> 00:59:44.110
yet but we you know hopefully we'll have a guest

00:59:44.110 --> 00:59:46.530
in uh we're just working on trying to get a scheduling

00:59:46.530 --> 00:59:49.929
for that um february of course we're gonna have

00:59:49.929 --> 00:59:52.469
a february yeah i already planned february yeah

00:59:52.469 --> 00:59:56.329
armando uh programmed a february show where we're

00:59:56.329 --> 01:00:00.130
gonna talk about uh lovers cheaters side pieces

01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.800
We'll try to get somebody for that one. You know,

01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:06.699
someone that we already had before. Oh, yeah.

01:00:06.699 --> 01:00:09.119
We'll try to get them back. And then, of course,

01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.380
March, we're going to have our annual episode

01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:16.420
of Las Bellas de Trash Max. We're going to highlight

01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:18.639
the women of Trash Max. Yeah, so the podcast

01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:20.639
isn't going nowhere. We're going to keep going,

01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.460
and we're going to always bring something different,

01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.320
you know, something new every month. It's not

01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.519
going to be what you expect. It's always going

01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.719
to be something new and unexpected. So tune in

01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.460
because you don't want to be late to the train,

01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.119
man, because, you know, by the time we hit mega

01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:40.239
stardom, you know. I don't know about mega stardom.

01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.260
We rulers of the podcast world. Oh, yeah. We

01:00:44.260 --> 01:00:47.219
know our shit, man. No, I'm just joking. We still

01:00:47.219 --> 01:00:49.000
have to figure stuff out. We're always learning,

01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:51.280
you know, as we go. There's stuff that I'm always

01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.360
learning as we go as well. I mean, that's the

01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:54.760
whole point. That's the whole point, you know.

01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.940
I'm never going to tell people I'm an expert.

01:00:57.019 --> 01:00:59.190
It's like, no, I just. You know, I read about

01:00:59.190 --> 01:01:00.570
it. You know, like, I look the shit up, you know.

01:01:01.110 --> 01:01:03.130
People like to think, oh, you think you know

01:01:03.130 --> 01:01:05.250
it. I was like, no, actually, I don't. I'm glad

01:01:05.250 --> 01:01:07.110
you guys are actually, like, doing this because

01:01:07.110 --> 01:01:09.650
this is something that was, like, back and forth

01:01:09.650 --> 01:01:11.590
for a while of just, like, come on, dude, like,

01:01:11.650 --> 01:01:13.650
you know, people would love to hear you talk

01:01:13.650 --> 01:01:15.769
about stuff. And it's just, like, now that you

01:01:15.769 --> 01:01:20.610
guys are, what, almost over a year into it already,

01:01:20.690 --> 01:01:25.480
and it's just, like. I was happy to see it. Funny

01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.119
enough, we had a sitting in the back of an Uber.

01:01:28.179 --> 01:01:30.860
Me and Armando had a conversation at the Texas

01:01:30.860 --> 01:01:33.849
when we went to go screen this. uh me trying

01:01:33.849 --> 01:01:35.909
to convince him come on man oh yeah let's do

01:01:35.909 --> 01:01:40.469
this yeah so it goes it goes back far man it

01:01:40.469 --> 01:01:42.230
took me a while to convince armando to do it

01:01:42.230 --> 01:01:44.730
as you guys already know the story but yeah um

01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:47.349
you know stay in tune you know as armando said

01:01:47.349 --> 01:01:49.309
we're still learning as well you know no one

01:01:49.309 --> 01:01:52.469
here is an expert um except armando i guess is

01:01:52.469 --> 01:01:54.909
you know can be quantified well i don't have

01:01:54.909 --> 01:01:57.090
a life you guys know that already i'm literally

01:01:57.090 --> 01:01:58.949
always commenting i mean i mean i mean i got

01:01:58.949 --> 01:02:01.820
a girl now so the girl's here but even then when

01:02:01.820 --> 01:02:05.440
she's here i'm here like yeah you're still like

01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.960
i'm still trying to find stuff you know yeah

01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:10.159
you know always always on the search you know

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.280
always trying to educate ourselves um you know

01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:17.300
of course it all it all started with the trash

01:02:17.300 --> 01:02:19.820
max website so don't forget that that website

01:02:19.820 --> 01:02:22.840
still exists yeah i got i got a bunch of i got

01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.880
a bunch of coming a lot of stuff coming in so

01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:30.099
keep an eye out you're strong at this point So

01:02:30.099 --> 01:02:31.460
check that out. I got new stuff coming. And then

01:02:31.460 --> 01:02:33.360
what else we got? We got other stuff. There's

01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:34.900
going to be other stuff. There's merch on there.

01:02:35.099 --> 01:02:36.960
You know, fucking support. You know, buy a damn

01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.000
t -shirt. And most of all, you know, comment,

01:02:40.179 --> 01:02:43.980
subscribe, podcast. Follow along. We're on all

01:02:43.980 --> 01:02:46.159
platforms, you know, all the preferred ones.

01:02:47.219 --> 01:02:50.000
If I can write us on Letterboxd, write us on

01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:53.619
Instagram, email us. You've been getting Letterboxd

01:02:53.619 --> 01:02:55.400
famous these days. Oh, man. Bro, that shit's

01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.500
whack. Oh, no. It's not October anymore. I'm

01:02:58.500 --> 01:03:01.239
still on there. You're still a featured? Yeah.

01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:03.639
They haven't changed that shit yet. I'm still

01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:06.420
getting followers. Damn. Hey, you know, shout

01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:08.320
out to that. Shout out to Letterboxd, I guess.

01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.420
Well, I don't know now. Comment on his Letterboxd,

01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.559
your Letterboxd 4 on Armando's comments. Let

01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.510
him know. Yeah. Maybe you'll get chosen at some

01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:22.309
point. Maybe they did change it. I haven't had

01:03:22.309 --> 01:03:25.070
a follower since yesterday. Look at all the shit

01:03:25.070 --> 01:03:27.579
I had. That's when you know it's bad when all

01:03:27.579 --> 01:03:30.139
the people have no images. It's just like the

01:03:30.139 --> 01:03:34.500
stock profile picture. Or this guy bought some

01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:36.300
bots. He's just like, I don't know what these

01:03:36.300 --> 01:03:40.119
people are talking about. Paid for productivity.

01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:46.360
I'm not like other podcasts, quote unquote. It's

01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.440
always free, guys. That was the main thing that

01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.679
Armando and I talked about. This show will always

01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.219
be free. It'll always be available. I don't think

01:03:54.219 --> 01:03:56.820
you have to subscribe. pay for anything no never

01:03:56.820 --> 01:03:59.780
um you know if you ever want to pay us you know

01:03:59.780 --> 01:04:03.260
just send us on venmos of money anyways but Venmo,

01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:06.860
I don't know, buy us snacks. No, the best way

01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:10.000
to support us is to listen, tell everybody, tell

01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.300
your tias, your tios, your sancho, your ex, your

01:04:13.300 --> 01:04:17.360
wife, anyone you hate, anyone you love. Just

01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:19.639
spread the word, you know, watch the movies,

01:04:19.739 --> 01:04:22.440
engage with us, you know, teach us something,

01:04:22.619 --> 01:04:25.139
you know, come to the shows, you know, support

01:04:25.139 --> 01:04:28.400
Mikey and see it on 16. That's the best way to

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:32.090
support is to just show up. And talk, really.

01:04:32.090 --> 01:04:33.710
Yeah, and if you see us, don't be afraid. Come

01:04:33.710 --> 01:04:36.289
up to us. I don't know how many times I've had

01:04:36.289 --> 01:04:38.590
people say, oh, I saw you. I mean, you saw me,

01:04:38.670 --> 01:04:40.949
but you didn't say hi? It happens all the time,

01:04:41.030 --> 01:04:42.949
man. It happens all the time. You're like, you

01:04:42.949 --> 01:04:45.250
saw me? What? Do you think we're unapproachable

01:04:45.250 --> 01:04:47.590
sometimes? No, I'm like right there. Like, even

01:04:47.590 --> 01:04:49.510
at the merch table at the show, do you think

01:04:49.510 --> 01:04:51.829
we give off of, like... We're literally there

01:04:51.829 --> 01:04:53.650
for whatever. If people want to buy stuff or

01:04:53.650 --> 01:04:55.409
not, I mean, that's the whole point, right? Yeah.

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I don't know. People are just shy. I think that's

01:04:57.710 --> 01:04:59.730
just really what it is. I never realized how

01:04:59.730 --> 01:05:02.789
shy people are. It's easier to talk to someone

01:05:02.789 --> 01:05:06.230
online than it is for a lot of people. Exactly.

01:05:06.690 --> 01:05:09.989
I kind of get that way sometimes too, but it

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is what it is. Yeah, if you see Mike, say hi

01:05:12.949 --> 01:05:15.300
to him. He's always there. If you see me somewhere,

01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.400
say hi. Don't be weird. Don't make it weird.

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And don't message me either. That makes it even

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.179
more weird. I remember. I'll tell this story

01:05:23.179 --> 01:05:28.719
off air. This is the end. Here's the trailer

01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.579
for the next month episode. We will have a guest.

01:05:32.739 --> 01:05:36.360
You've heard him before. So be prepared for that.

01:05:38.300 --> 01:05:40.599
Yeah, that's all there is to say. You think this

01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:42.619
one's going to get 1 ,000 downloads too? Oh,

01:05:42.619 --> 01:05:47.320
yeah. So that's one thing. Our last episode on

01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.400
Los Bukis that was back in December, it crossed

01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:53.739
1 ,000 downloads. So anyone who's listened to

01:05:53.739 --> 01:05:55.800
it, downloaded it, or told anyone about that

01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.860
show specifically, thank you. That was a joke

01:05:58.860 --> 01:06:01.539
that I came to Armando with who Armando said,

01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.840
fuck yeah, let's do it. And who knew that that

01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.880
was going to be the best thing Most downloaded

01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.840
Trashmex podcast episode. This one will probably

01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.780
beat it then for sure. Another music one. It's

01:06:13.780 --> 01:06:15.900
another music one. Yeah. And I'm sure with that

01:06:15.900 --> 01:06:19.480
hint, you'll guess who it is. But yeah, we'll

01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.900
see you guys next month or we'll talk to you

01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:24.400
guys next month. Tune in, man. Follow along.

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Tell everybody. Thank you. Thanks. Have a good

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one. Peace. Anything you can offer, tell me.

01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:42.980
Don't worry. Thank you very much, doctor. Damn

01:06:42.980 --> 01:06:45.860
it, Dan. How do you start doing these things?

01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.420
Even Calentura gave it to you. Leave that to

01:06:49.420 --> 01:06:52.659
someone who is used to walking barefoot. But

01:06:52.659 --> 01:06:57.099
you... Damn it, Dan. You don't even fuck with

01:06:57.099 --> 01:07:02.179
her. Forgive me, Meche. It's just that I got

01:07:02.179 --> 01:07:05.880
scared. La desesperación de que nunca la voy

01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:09.860
a hacer. De que mis canciones no valen la pena.

01:07:11.340 --> 01:07:16.940
Que a nadie le gusta como canto. Que todos me

01:07:16.940 --> 01:07:20.159
dan por mi lado nada más por pasar el rato. Estás

01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:25.280
loco, pinche Adán. Tú la vas a hacer. Nomás que

01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.780
vayas a México y te oigan tu material, vas a

01:07:27.780 --> 01:07:32.000
acabar con todos. Estás muy chavalillo todavía.

01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:40.329
Pero óyeme bien, tus rolas valen mucho. Y como

01:07:40.329 --> 01:07:42.289
vuelvas a hacer otra onda como la de anoche,

01:07:42.369 --> 01:07:45.809
te voy a madrear. Yo creí que casi te ibas a

01:07:45.809 --> 01:07:53.329
morir. Y luego yo, de tres veces, ya, horrible.

01:07:55.570 --> 01:07:59.269
Pinchada, no me vuelvas a dar otro susto como

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esto, carajo.