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Hello everybody, welcome to the Trash Mix Podcast,

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and it's October, which means we're going to

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talk about horror movies, finally. I know some

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of you were like, when are you guys going to

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talk about horror? And I was like, we'll get

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to it soon, don't worry, we're going to give

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you some good shit. And we're going to dig into

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some slashers this time. Right, Joey? That's

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right. I know. I'm sure people probably prefer

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to hear about the Mexican horror movies. So we'll

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see. We'll see how this episode goes. Yeah. Yeah.

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This is going to be a unique one because, like

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I said, these are slashers from mostly the 90s,

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if anything. So it's like pretty unusual, but

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it's cool. And these are movies that hardly anybody

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even knows or really has seen. You look at the

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Letterboxd logins, IMDb ratings, very small or

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nothing at all. Yeah, you can't even really find

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too much information about them, like Googling

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and stuff. It's basically just like... Bare bones,

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yeah. Yeah, super bare bones. So, yeah. And then

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this episode and then Joey. So, actually, this

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is not even one episode, right? We're going to

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do multiple. Yeah, you know... Armando keeps

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telling me, and I'm sure he's told a lot of people,

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people always hit him up asking him, is this

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a slasher? We wanted to talk about slashers,

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but we figured there's a lot of Mexican slashers.

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Why not give you guys what you want? And we're

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not going to do one episode this month. We're

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going to do four. Yeah, when I was giving Joey

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the time, I was like, yeah, so we're going to

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talk about all these. And he was like, we'll

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probably need to split these. I was like, actually,

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yeah. At first I was like, ah, we could just

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speed run to them. But I was like, nah, you know

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what? Yeah, we got to split them. Yeah, you got

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to give it their proper due because I'm sure

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there's people out there that are not going to

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like these movies. But I fucking, so far, I've

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liked almost all of them. Yeah, and then there

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are always some. You're just like, what? but

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we'll get to them but yeah today we're going

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to talk about two the other and then the other

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episodes it's going to be two as well double

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features yeah every episode will be a double

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feature so it'll be eight total movies for the

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month of october four episodes yeah so yeah enjoy

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it and uh the reason why it's called is it a

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slasher because then it derives from these messages

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that i used to get back in the day like i'd be

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on facebook you know just like whatever bullshitting

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and they get a message And then someone in Spanish,

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you know, in Mexico or, like, I don't know, another,

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like, Spanish -speaking country will message

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me. They'll be like, oh, yeah, bro, esto es un

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slasher. And then it'll be, like, in weird caps.

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Like, the way they type, I'm like, who's typing

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this? Like, what is going on? Like, are they,

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like, on the phone or what? And then they send

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me the picture of the movie that I posted. And

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I'm like, I guess, yeah. I think I said it kind

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of was or maybe it wasn't. so constantly and

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then there was one guy i'm not gonna say his

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name but he was one guy who would message me

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he'd be like hey so what happens in this movie

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does the killer use this kind of weapon or that

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kind of like what the fuck I was like, didn't

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you just read what I posted? I think people see

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the images and then they just hit you. I mean,

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it goes with everything. It's not just this.

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Yeah, it goes with a lot. People see a headline

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or a caption or an image and then automatically

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just come up with a situation in their head.

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So this is exactly what the first movie that

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we're going to talk about, which is called Panico

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en el Bosque. And people are always. That's like

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the one that people just assume is a slasher

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because of the cover. Well, before we get into

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that, why don't I think it'll be beneficial to

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the listeners and to the month and, you know,

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the theme of October as a whole. What the fuck

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is a slasher, right? Because I feel like so many

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people call or mislabel movies. That's true.

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Not just slasher movies, but in general, you

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know, you still have people that call Suspiria

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a giallo, which. People are fucking idiots. I

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literally saw that movie and I was like, this

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is not a giallo. Yeah, people are idiots. Anyone

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who's calling Suspiria a giallo is an idiot.

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That was snow. I think it'll be beneficial if

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we, not decide, but if we give our definition

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of what a slasher is. And that way it'll give,

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you know, kind of a more, a bigger meaning to

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when we decide whether or not these movies are

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slashers. Yeah, exactly. All right. So Joey,

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what do you think is a slasher? I mean. How would

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you define it for yourself? To me, this is my

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opinion here. A slasher is kind of just a systematic,

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like rhythmic killing of a ton of people in a

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horror movie. Because you have a lot of kills

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in a giallo movie too, but I wouldn't consider

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a giallo movie a slasher, right? So it has to

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be horror leaning or horror themed. And it just

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has to have... You know, at least, I don't know,

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seven plus kills, I would say. Seven? I mean,

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that seems right. Yeah. You figure there's always

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like, you know, there's always, you know, whatever,

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three or four couples or there's always, you

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know, a group of teenagers. That's true. There's

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always got to be a couple of cynical adults that

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got to die, you know. That's true. There's got

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to be at least seven and above. Oh, yeah. So,

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yeah, I kind of have to go with that. Yeah, it's

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like people get killed. There's a sharp weapon

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used. The killer wears a mask or doesn't wear

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a mask or a disguise. There's always red herrings.

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There's got to be at least two or three red herrings

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in Slasher. Yeah, exactly. you know bloody kills

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you know if the kills aren't bloody and you don't

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see them at all you just know they're dead it's

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like well then that's not a slasher yeah that

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kind of that's kind of like the fine line right

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because there are a lot of slashers that do kills

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off screen yeah and primarily because of you

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know budgetary reasons you know they can't afford

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to have a makeup artist do the do the effects

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um so i don't know where i stand on that because

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there are a couple off off camera kills in the

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movies that we're going to cover oh yeah um but

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So I don't know. I don't know if I use that against

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a slasher to not label it a slasher or not. Well,

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let's dig into the one that I said, Pánico en

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el Bosque. Señor. Dime, Mari. Le llaman por teléfono.

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Gracias, ahorita contesto. Está bien. Que saquen

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a toda la gente del parque. Es bastante tarde.

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Muchachos, busquen a Lalo. Immediately, when

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you look at the cover, you're like, it's a slasher.

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There's a ghoulish person holding a knife and

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holding a severed head. And then you're just

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like, okay, maybe. And then you look at the back,

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same thing. You look at the back, and then there's

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a bunch of kills on there. I'm holding the tape

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right now. That was like a kill, dead body. I

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mean, it's very much marketed as a slasher. The

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way it's marketed, yeah. When you look at the

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cover, the font and everything. Like who is this

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monster right here? Oh, yeah. So the funny thing

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is later on I actually found out where that came

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from because that's not in the movie, by the

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way. Yeah, it's not. So it comes from another

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movie prior that was made. It's called Mátame

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Porque Me Muero. And if you haven't heard of

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it or seen it, it's like a ghost horror comedy

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from Mexico. And this is one of the ghost zombies

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that appears in the movie. like that's literally

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the the image and everything they just drew it

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and then they put the head over it is it the

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same production company or something like why

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would they just steal i don't know but it's just

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that's the art that's where the art comes from

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it's from that one movie and it's like so random

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there's nothing related to it i was like trying

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to see if there's anything related to it then

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no they just took the the inspiration from that

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movie because the the scene it's like yeah the

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ghosts or zombies or whatever and she's holding

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a knife like that So it looks pretty good. So

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I don't know. They probably saw it and were like,

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hey, let's just use that for the art. Fuck it.

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I mean, yeah. Looking at the box art, it definitely

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does. Like I said, it's marketed as a slasher.

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Immediately you see, you're like, oh shit, it's

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a slasher. You read the back. You're just like,

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oh cool. Maybe, you know, give me some kills.

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Then when you watch, you're like, what the fuck

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is this? So let me break it down. It's set in

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a national park or Bosque de Chapultepec. Like,

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it's super obvious it's Bosque de Chapultepec.

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And it's weird because they try not to make it

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like it is, but then at the same time they do

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say it is. So it doesn't make sense there. I

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was so confused. Like, so it is Bosque de Chapultepec

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or not? You got your forest rangers. One of them

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is played by Flaco Guzman, Roberto Flaco Guzman,

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who was a very famous actor during that era and

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in the IRS before that. Carlos East is another

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one that plays the forest ranger. And then his

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little boy, Carlos East Jr. is in the movie.

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Remember we saw, remember we saw East Jr. at

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Beyond the Streets recently. Remember he mentioned,

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he's like, I never even saw that movie. I thought

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that was funny. He's like, yeah, I remember that

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movie, but I never saw it. And yeah, so, you

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know, they're forest rangers, you know, it's

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typical day in the park and the forest or whatever.

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Just, just a bunch of people going, you know,

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messing around or, you know. there's punk there's

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like a punk gang in the movie remember they're

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just like fucking around causing trouble there

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for everybody basically yeah the opening of this

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movie is fucking hilarious to me because you

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know they get the establishing shots of the forest

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but there's also scenes of like group karate

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at the oh yeah just like stuff there's like midgets

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playing basketball yeah it's just so like okay

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like okay this is just setting up the mood like

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okay this is the setting And then immediately,

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yeah, you start seeing the problems that go on

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in the park. The Forest Rangers are on it. And

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then there's, of course, that punk gang. They're

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robbing people. They're, like, assaulting women

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there. Like, they're the ones that are the antagonists.

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But then, at the same time, I don't know. Sometimes

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there's, like, problems there. And then, like,

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a killer emerges. You don't see him killing,

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but he emerges and then he kills somebody. Might

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need to, like, save a kid or, like, keep people

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from trouble. and yeah that's pretty much it

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you know someone's lurking there and you don't

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really know who it is until the end yeah this

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one's kind of weird because you know it opens

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up and there's like a an immediate kill but that

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kill has nothing like it never comes up in the

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story as to who that person oh before the opening

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credit before the opening oh yeah so that was

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the thing it's weird so it opens like the member

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and then it just says oh produced by whatever

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whatever but that's actually the kill from later

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the first kill with the old lady and then remember

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she's screaming at the girl Was that her? That

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was her, yeah. Because it was off camera, right?

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Yeah, it was weird. So I was like, why did they

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take that off and put it there? It was so weird.

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So that's what I'm saying. It's such a weird

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fucking movie. So that was technically the first

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kill of the movie. There it is. And then after

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that, yeah, it's like I said, but the whole duration

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is just mostly like just problems at the park.

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You know, there's just people that mess, you

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know, not following the rules or like cooking

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or whatever. They're not supposed to be cooking.

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Food? We all have it. No, no, no. I think that...

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I'm sorry, but the park is already closed. Also,

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alcohol is not allowed. Please retire. What are

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you talking about? The park is for everyone,

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right? Of course. We also pay our taxes. So get

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out of here. We don't want people here. Let's

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go. I don't understand. Let's go. I don't understand.

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There's like a fire. Just really random shit.

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And then the forest ranger. And then the little

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boat. Remember Carlos Jr.? He's just riding a

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horse. He ends up being... flaco is is it his

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son or his nephew in the movie he's supposed

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to be like his nephew yeah and then remember

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he gets lost later and this which leads to the

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big event where it's like everyone's like lost

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or like you know the punks are messing with this

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couple that's featured in the movie a lot for

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some reason yeah so there's three punks in the

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movie that's uh cesar bono yes jr and um i can't

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remember the third guy's name um yeah i don't

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remember the third guy um But yeah, I mean, it's

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just three punks that... They frequent the park

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and they're always just causing problems. Yeah,

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they're complete scumbags. And they make it known

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in the beginning. They show up at a little bar

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and they're just absolute scumbags talking about

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misogynistic, drunk, weed -smoking thieves that

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end up killing people. Exactly. Huh? One that

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has few letters, my Rudo. Why? Because he knows

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that few words are needed for him to be a good

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understander. Hey, the rat took too long in the

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bathroom. Oh, well, you know him, he's very hung

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up, he's just like his boss. You sure you were

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talking bad about me, right? Oh, how are you

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doing, bro? Oh, I killed Maria Candelaria. Oh,

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Maria Candelaria. You, instead of having worms,

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you have a boa inside. Oh, don't say boa, bro.

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Those bugs are unlucky. I don't like bad boas,

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because they have nothing. On the other hand,

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the other day, I saw a cake, but it was delicious,

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bro. Es que me voy caminando despacito y creo

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que hay chicos pellizcotes en las nalgas. De

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Dios, canal. Yo dije, esta vieja no me va a hacer

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nada. ¿Cómo no? Me agarró a bolsazos, canal.

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¿Qué me hizo joder? ¿Y qué creen? ¿Qué creen?

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Se quitó los tapones la vieja y ahí venía detrás

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de mí. Y yo, pues, recorrí la vieja detrás de

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mí. Pero nunca me alcanzó. ¿Sabes quién era la

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vieja? ¿Quién era? Tu jefa. No, no se enoje.

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Mi Dolores del Río. ¿Por qué Dolores del Río?

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Pues tú le pusiste así. La de Candelaria. Ya,

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no marchen que traen cartilla. A ver, mesero.

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La cuenta. Ya me aburrieron. Son 24 mil pesos.

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¿Sabes qué, carnal? Enguelve metas para la perra.

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Which bitch? The big bitch that I have. What?

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A thousand pesos, nothing more? What? Do you

00:14:57.289 --> 00:15:03.210
want more? How do you pay? Let's have a touch

00:15:03.210 --> 00:15:07.269
and roll. Yes, to lower the cakes. How to lower

00:15:07.269 --> 00:15:11.129
the cakes? To raise the spirit. No, no, no. I

00:15:11.129 --> 00:15:13.870
say that to lower the cakes, you have to say,

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Salud Kiki! And then, yeah, once the movie gets

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to that scene where it's, like, everyone's lost,

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the couple's getting chased by the punks, they

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assault the girl, and then they kill her. And

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then the unseen killer emerges, and then he kills

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all the punks brutally. Like, that's actually

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the money shot. It's, like, he's literally, like,

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killing them with, like, a hatchet, was it, right?

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Well, he killed two of them with, like, a big

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-ass, like, a branch. Yeah, there we go, the

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branch. From a tree. Yeah, I think he stabs Cesar

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Bono through the chest. And then he stabs, I

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don't remember if it was Alfonso Zayas Jr., but

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one of him or the other guy, he stabs him, like,

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through, like, the bottom of his neck. Yeah,

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that was Jr., yeah, Alfonso Jr. Yeah. And then

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after that, that's it, you know, and then everyone's

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there, like, dead, and then the forest ranger

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finds out, oh, it's this guy that's lurking there.

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He's, like, a vagrant. They call him Monstro

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or something like that. El Monstro. Yeah, which

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is played by Gerardo Cepedachkin. Of course.

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You know, but it's funny, though, because in

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this, like, the movie itself, like, this is where

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I think the problem lies, is that Flaco Guzman,

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this is his only director credit for this movie.

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I think he got lost in the sauce. Like, I don't

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know if he was ever truly a fan of horror movies

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because they played it safe and played it like

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an action movie, right? So the whole time, it's

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him being a fucking forest ranger. Oh, no smoking

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in the park. Yeah, like he's enforcing the rules.

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No drinking at the park, you know? So he's just

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running around, and him and his goons are just

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running around, you know, trying to stop people

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from, you know, frolicking around, doing a bunch

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of dumb shit. And everyone ends up getting fucking

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killed. Yeah. But it's, I don't know, it's like...

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it's like they didn't know what they were making

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it's like I feel like what it was maybe it's

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the script was just constantly changing that's

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usually the case with these movies especially

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the video homes they were constantly just changing

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the script so I think that's probably what happened

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obviously he didn't write it so he was just going

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with whatever the fuck they were giving him he's

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like alright we're gonna do that then that's

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more than likely what it was that's literally

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what it feels like like so much script changes

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so it's like alright this is this was probably

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intended to be a slasher for sure but then it

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just kinda gets lost along the way it's like

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okay now it's just like a movie about the forest

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you know and the dangers of it you know yeah

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because there's even times like throughout the

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movie where like they're like understaffed and

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under underpaid and shit and they're like you

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know they're trying to get the resources and

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you know and there's a couple scenes in there

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where i think it was carlos he's his character

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it was just like you know we can't do it we don't

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have enough uh our jeep our jeep is fucked up

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and you know whatever whatever yeah and bruno

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ray ends up being like a um uh he comes in and

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and he's playing like a uh like a high level

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i guess police officer and it's like you know

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we got to keep this quiet you know we have this

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fucking this man running around and you know

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we don't put him in an asylum or whatever the

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case is but and flaco of course is just aloof

00:18:07.619 --> 00:18:09.619
to all of it he's got his own problems his wife

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hates him because he works too fucking much fucking

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yeah he already sees his family like he's always

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in the fucking forest working yeah yeah i don't

00:18:19.539 --> 00:18:23.279
know he's um i don't know he i don't like again

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i don't think i don't think he knew he was a

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fan of horror movies if anything because he's

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not known even in his acting i don't i don't

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recall a bunch of horror movies from him but

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yeah he started in a bunch of stuff but yeah

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not really horror like he has a bunch of like

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200 plus credits to his name and it's like you

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think about his filmography like yeah he didn't

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really do horror I don't think he was familiar

00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:44.980
with it at all. So it seems weird to get him

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to direct a straight -to -video slasher. So it's

00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.599
not a slasher, right, Joey? I think this movie

00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.799
tries to be a slasher, but doesn't really know

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how to be a slasher. And I don't know if it's,

00:19:00.539 --> 00:19:02.960
again, budgetary reasons that they couldn't show

00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.799
too many kills. Yeah, only near the end, like

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I said, in that scene at night when they're all

00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:09.819
together. That's literally the only time you

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see a bunch of kills like that. Yeah, and I mean,

00:19:12.380 --> 00:19:14.119
there's a bunch of shitty characters in this

00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:15.900
fucking movie that deserve to die, too. Like

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you said, the grandma was like a drunk, beating

00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.720
up her granddaughter because her son didn't give

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enough money for her to get drunk, so she beats

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on the granddaughter. No. Mejor te voy a cortar

00:20:11.660 --> 00:20:15.500
el pelo. No. Porque si después lo puedo vender.

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¿Sabes qué? Te voy a matar. She deserved to die.

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She deserved to die a horrible death. That's

00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.059
a death they should have showed on screen. The

00:21:04.059 --> 00:21:06.880
punks, obviously, they all deserved to die. They

00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.980
were complete fucking assholes. So it's like,

00:21:09.980 --> 00:21:11.680
in a way, the killer was protecting the people

00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.460
in the forest when you think about it. Yeah,

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but you know, as soon as I seen that full cheeky

00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:19.380
lean, I should have known that it was going to

00:21:19.380 --> 00:21:23.960
be some mamadas because his role is so minimal

00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:25.880
in this movie. Yeah, you only see him near the

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end. And he's basically, he's like a gentle giant.

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I would assume has mental disabilities. Yeah.

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Because he doesn't talk. He just kind of grunts

00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:39.849
around. There's a scene at the end of the movie

00:21:39.849 --> 00:21:42.670
where he's at the zoo. Oh, yeah. And he picks

00:21:42.670 --> 00:21:45.170
up a little girl because she can't see what's

00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:47.369
happening. And the girl's mom comes in and, you

00:21:47.369 --> 00:21:49.730
know, God, look at all my daughters. I start

00:21:49.730 --> 00:21:56.170
slapping on. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't

00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:59.890
call it a slasher. Yeah, I don't know. I'm, like,

00:21:59.910 --> 00:22:02.710
stuck in a hard place with this one. Did you

00:22:02.710 --> 00:22:04.289
like it, though? Because I did like it. See,

00:22:04.289 --> 00:22:05.650
that's the thing. Even though it wasn't what

00:22:05.650 --> 00:22:07.390
it was supposed to be or what you think it is,

00:22:07.430 --> 00:22:10.849
it's still a decent movie. I personally did like

00:22:10.849 --> 00:22:13.509
it. Yeah, I mean, it's not, like, great or anything

00:22:13.509 --> 00:22:19.410
like that, but it's not a bad movie. It's made

00:22:19.410 --> 00:22:22.410
well, I guess you can say, right? Yeah, exactly.

00:22:22.430 --> 00:22:26.230
It wasn't made badly, yeah. You have a cast of

00:22:26.230 --> 00:22:31.029
great actors. So obviously they were trying to

00:22:31.029 --> 00:22:32.809
do something big here. Yeah, clearly, because

00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:36.029
you got Flaco, you got Leticia Perdigon, Bruno

00:22:36.029 --> 00:22:40.029
Rey, Cesar Bono, and then Carlos East. Like a

00:22:40.029 --> 00:22:43.190
pretty well - I mean, those are huge names, yeah.

00:22:43.730 --> 00:22:46.109
But yeah, the movie just kind of goes all over

00:22:46.109 --> 00:22:49.910
the place and you're just like, what? And then

00:22:49.910 --> 00:22:51.630
you go to a letterbox and people are like, yeah,

00:22:51.750 --> 00:22:54.730
this is a great Mexican slasher. Slasher, slasher.

00:22:54.730 --> 00:22:56.650
I'm like, did you guys watch the same movie?

00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:59.390
Or are you guys just looking at the cover? Because

00:22:59.390 --> 00:23:01.430
the cover, like I said, it does sell you as a

00:23:01.430 --> 00:23:03.170
slasher. I was fooled by it too when I bought

00:23:03.170 --> 00:23:06.309
it on Amazon years ago. But other than that,

00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:12.799
no, not really. Yeah, I think I... I don't know.

00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.740
This is the one out of all of them that I have

00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:17.839
the most trouble with deciding whether or not

00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:20.380
I consider it a slasher. I can't. I just call

00:23:20.380 --> 00:23:23.220
it like a thriller, a forest thriller. I don't

00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:26.859
know. A forest thriller. I don't know what to

00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:28.839
call it, but yeah, it's not going to be what

00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:31.740
you think it is. Yeah, I mean, I guess according

00:23:31.740 --> 00:23:34.000
to the way I would define a slasher, it would

00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.640
not be a slasher. Yeah, it's not going to fall

00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.279
into that. But, I mean, to ease their own, if

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:41.940
the people want to watch it and consider it a

00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:44.119
slasher or whatever. But I'm not putting it on

00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.079
my slasher list. Would you buy it on Blu -ray?

00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.240
You know, honestly, I would, though. Yeah, me

00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.200
too. I would buy it on Blu -ray. If it got, like,

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:53.900
a restoration, I would totally buy it, actually.

00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:56.680
But, you know, I think the, at least for the

00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.380
most part, you know, every time I see reviews

00:24:00.380 --> 00:24:03.160
for a Mexican movie or even, like, the ones that

00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.940
Vinegar has put out, people aren't very friendly

00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:09.029
to him, man. People kind of hate it. Maybe because

00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:11.410
we have a cultural bias towards these movies.

00:24:12.390 --> 00:24:17.329
I think people would hate this. I think the majority

00:24:17.329 --> 00:24:21.069
of people are not going to like this movie. Unfortunately.

00:24:21.650 --> 00:24:24.410
Because there is some good in it. It's not bad,

00:24:24.509 --> 00:24:27.369
but it's just not what you think it is at all.

00:24:27.660 --> 00:24:30.299
I mean, it's no different than some of the American

00:24:30.299 --> 00:24:32.680
slashers that came out that were oversold, and

00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.220
you watch it, and you're just like, what the

00:24:34.220 --> 00:24:38.619
fuck? How is this a slasher? Nothing happens

00:24:38.619 --> 00:24:42.299
for 40 minutes, and then a couple people die,

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.759
and yep, it's a slasher. And then gets a 4K release.

00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:50.119
Yeah, a 4K release, ultra -limited box, all kinds

00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:55.170
of shit. I don't know. I mean, maybe it's a classic

00:24:55.170 --> 00:24:58.609
waiting to be rediscovered, but I doubt it. Some

00:24:58.609 --> 00:25:03.490
weird things happen. That is true. I mean, yeah.

00:25:03.589 --> 00:25:06.430
I mean, I guess you never know. But I do think

00:25:06.430 --> 00:25:12.369
that the second movie is a slasher. That one

00:25:12.369 --> 00:25:16.470
is like a legend on its own now because I feel

00:25:16.470 --> 00:25:20.730
like I got really rediscovered. in the 2010s

00:25:20.730 --> 00:25:22.430
when they got like uploaded online i remember

00:25:22.430 --> 00:25:24.230
like i was one of the people that found out about

00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:26.130
that movie through online and i was like oh i

00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:30.650
never heard of this one yeah this one's hard

00:25:30.650 --> 00:25:33.630
i'm looking at the cover right now um joey liked

00:25:33.630 --> 00:25:35.009
it i was like joey you're gonna talk about this

00:25:35.009 --> 00:25:38.630
yeah i like i actually like this one a lot um

00:25:38.630 --> 00:25:40.750
but yeah the cover is pretty sick it's got a

00:25:40.750 --> 00:25:44.930
dope ass font You got a psycho killer with a

00:25:44.930 --> 00:25:47.549
giant Bowie knife in his hand. Which he does

00:25:47.549 --> 00:25:52.309
use. Yeah, he does use. Jorge Reynoso, you know,

00:25:52.309 --> 00:25:57.390
looking badass with his gun. You got like a cabin

00:25:57.390 --> 00:26:00.329
with the fire going into the fireplace. Very

00:26:00.329 --> 00:26:03.490
Friday the 13th looking inspired art, I guess

00:26:03.490 --> 00:26:06.089
you could say. Something of that nature. Yeah,

00:26:06.089 --> 00:26:08.589
I mean, it's similar. Slasher -esque, you know.

00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:12.150
Yeah, it's really good. But, okay, I mean, let's

00:26:12.150 --> 00:26:14.690
get into Bosque de Muerte. Like I just said,

00:26:14.730 --> 00:26:17.049
I do think that Bosque de Muerte is a slasher,

00:26:17.109 --> 00:26:19.549
so I think the majority of people would actually

00:26:19.549 --> 00:26:23.609
prefer this one over Pánico. Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:27.650
But let's get into it. It's from 1993, directed

00:26:27.650 --> 00:26:32.950
by Carlos David Ortigoza, who, you know, directed

00:26:32.950 --> 00:26:41.509
a bunch of novelas. You know, I think this is

00:26:41.509 --> 00:26:43.650
his only movie created. Yeah, it's weird. So

00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:45.589
he has like a really interesting career because

00:26:45.589 --> 00:26:47.690
he wasn't really much of an actor. He was more

00:26:47.690 --> 00:26:49.970
of like a voice dub actor. And then he made a

00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:55.549
company called Cisna. Oh, no. Cinsa. Cinsa. Which

00:26:55.549 --> 00:27:00.069
was Compañia Cinematrica Africana. And they would

00:27:00.069 --> 00:27:02.789
dub like American TV shows like the Jetsons,

00:27:02.789 --> 00:27:06.410
Batman, Dragnet, shit like that. So that's what

00:27:06.410 --> 00:27:08.410
he was primarily known for. So he was just doing

00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:10.390
the dubbing work for Mexico, you know, for these

00:27:10.390 --> 00:27:13.430
English shows. And then, I don't know, in the

00:27:13.430 --> 00:27:15.470
90s, he stopped doing that and then he directed

00:27:15.470 --> 00:27:18.490
this movie. That's so fucking weird. I thought

00:27:18.490 --> 00:27:19.970
that was so strange. It's like, how did this

00:27:19.970 --> 00:27:22.250
voice dub actor just make a slasher randomly

00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:25.109
in the 90s? You know, a favor for a favor. Someone

00:27:25.109 --> 00:27:26.869
needed a director and he's like, yeah, fuck it.

00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:29.769
Yeah. And it came out well, which is great. Yeah.

00:27:30.049 --> 00:27:34.480
I mean, I think it also helps that it was. written

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.259
by Carlos David Ortigoza, but also co -written

00:27:38.259 --> 00:27:42.259
by Gilberto de Anda, who is known for having

00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:44.740
really good scripts. Yeah, Gilberto de Anda,

00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:47.240
he was a fan. I mean, he's a fan because he's

00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.700
still alive. He's a fan of horror, sci -fi, so

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:52.579
he understands this type of stuff. He knows the

00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:54.839
formula. This one follows the slasher formula.

00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:56.819
He was doing his homework. Him and the other

00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:58.220
guy were definitely like, all right, we're going

00:27:58.220 --> 00:27:59.960
to make a slasher film, and this is how it's

00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:03.900
going to go. and he also wrote a movie that we

00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:06.480
covered in episode two un hombre violento which

00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.200
if any of you guys listening actually went and

00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.160
saw that you would you know and you liked how

00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.019
violent that movie was um then you know what

00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:15.559
you're in for for this movie because this movie

00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.599
is also pretty fucking violent it's funny because

00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:19.160
when you mentioned i remember you mentioned that

00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:20.720
remember there's like a scene that reminded you

00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.299
of what was it friday the 13th number yeah oh

00:28:23.299 --> 00:28:26.019
yeah so that i'm saying so he knows the formula

00:28:26.019 --> 00:28:29.480
yeah oh yeah yeah yeah this one is is 100 uh

00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:34.579
a slasher but um it was produced uh this this

00:28:34.579 --> 00:28:36.180
one i couldn't figure out because i had i saw

00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:38.359
two different credits for this so i saw that

00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.720
it was produced by jorge reynoso himself but

00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.160
on the in the end title uh credits it was listed

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.720
for his brother oh yeah sergio and then gilberto

00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.599
were the producers yeah Yeah, so that's a little

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.980
weird. I mean, typical with the Mexican shit,

00:28:54.019 --> 00:28:56.140
though, like the information is kind of convoluted.

00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:58.279
Kind of convoluted, and then it's so limited.

00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.099
It's like it's just the family members or their

00:29:00.099 --> 00:29:02.440
friends. This is clearly just like a family friend

00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:06.319
affair. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, anyway, stars

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.269
Jorge Reynoso, who I know. Most people, when

00:29:11.269 --> 00:29:13.190
they hear the word trash mix, they probably think

00:29:13.190 --> 00:29:16.529
of Valentin Trujillo or the Almada brothers.

00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:20.769
But I think Jorge Reynoso deserves a spot on

00:29:20.769 --> 00:29:24.130
Mount Rushmore of this type of trash Mexican

00:29:24.130 --> 00:29:28.230
cinema. Because, I mean, he is legendary. Yeah,

00:29:28.250 --> 00:29:30.769
he's very legendary. Even today, people know

00:29:30.769 --> 00:29:34.049
him still. He's not acting no more. He's long

00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:37.230
retired now. Yeah, he's still very popular. People

00:29:37.230 --> 00:29:40.289
still talk about him. I mean, he has almost 300

00:29:40.289 --> 00:29:42.930
credits, which I'm sure he probably has some

00:29:42.930 --> 00:29:45.690
uncredited shit that would take him to 300. But

00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:50.450
he's sitting at like 290 official credits, which

00:29:50.450 --> 00:29:53.750
is fucking crazy. But yeah, absolutely legendary.

00:29:53.930 --> 00:29:55.809
If you've seen his face, even if you've never

00:29:55.809 --> 00:29:58.849
seen his movies, you've seen his face and you

00:29:58.849 --> 00:30:04.329
know who he is. Yeah, so it also stars Sergio

00:30:04.329 --> 00:30:10.809
Bustamantes, Alejandra Espejo, Andrea Aguirre,

00:30:10.990 --> 00:30:14.930
Lorena Victoria, Andres Bonfiglio, who people

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:19.890
know from Ladrones de Tumbas, and Muerte en la

00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:22.390
Playa, which I'm sure, you know, that's one of

00:30:22.390 --> 00:30:24.289
Armando's favorites right there, the Vadio movie.

00:30:26.529 --> 00:30:29.690
Andres Garcia Jr. And his brother Leonardo. And

00:30:29.690 --> 00:30:32.039
his brother, exactly, yeah. who, you know, people

00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.099
would know from Cemetery de Terror, Casador de

00:30:35.099 --> 00:30:38.359
Demonios. I mean, there's a lot of tie -ins and

00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.180
familiar faces in this one. But, yeah, I mean,

00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:47.099
it follows like a Friday the 13th, I guess, plot,

00:30:47.299 --> 00:30:52.359
really. I mean, you know, a couple kids show

00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.900
up to a cabin, and all hell kind of fucking breaks

00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.160
loose. Yeah, you know, you think it's going to

00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.559
be a relaxing, you know, quiet afternoon, you

00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.880
know, day in the forest. And then it starts raining

00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.559
and then people die. Yeah, I think the main thing

00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.160
is that there's like a family secret attached

00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.940
to this cabin in the woods or in the forest.

00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.059
Yeah. That kind of like looms over the entire

00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:18.700
movie. And, you know, obviously at the end, you

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:20.660
know, I'll talk about it later. But we get into

00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:24.079
like the family history and why it's kind of

00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:28.599
a. like a rule that they're not supposed to be

00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.140
at this cabin yeah because they weren't that

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:33.819
house hasn't been like used for years if i recall

00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:37.039
something like that yeah um but again you know

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.359
it follows the formula there's three couples

00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:43.880
you have um sylvia and cesar raul and tamara

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.740
and adolfo and laura and you know they're they

00:31:48.740 --> 00:31:51.940
play like the generic they're like college age

00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:55.880
yeah like early 20s yeah that's the thing too

00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.319
with you know a lot of the times they're supposed

00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.279
to be younger people but you can i mean you look

00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.500
at them and yeah these motherfuckers are like

00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:06.140
40 years old um yeah i think um alejandra espejo

00:32:06.140 --> 00:32:08.700
was the one that was alejandra espejo was the

00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:10.519
little bit older one but she was supposed to

00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.000
be younger technically yeah yeah yeah but you

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.240
know like i said the formula you know every character

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.980
is is the same character in in slasher movies

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.309
right so You have, you know, the complainer,

00:32:23.309 --> 00:32:24.930
right, the one that doesn't want to do anything.

00:32:25.069 --> 00:32:28.630
Everything's too hard, you know. You have the

00:32:28.630 --> 00:32:31.950
final girl, you know, who obviously is attached

00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:35.210
to this cabin. You have, like, the slutty girl

00:32:35.210 --> 00:32:39.150
or, like, the loose girl. You have the jokester.

00:32:40.329 --> 00:32:44.529
You have, like, the clean -cut, you know, I guess

00:32:44.529 --> 00:32:46.349
soft -spoken. Not soft -spoken, but, you know,

00:32:46.369 --> 00:32:50.140
just clean -cut generic guy. um and then you

00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:53.619
have like the jock the asshole guy so i mean

00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:55.400
it you know you're starting to see a pattern

00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.220
here and a lot of it is shot in like a pov style

00:32:58.220 --> 00:33:01.500
too you get a lot of uh tracking shots of all

00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:03.640
right who who are these people who's watching

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.539
these people you know like they show up to the

00:33:05.539 --> 00:33:07.759
cabin and they're fucking they're already being

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.359
stalked but yeah um but yeah i mean so it starts

00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.380
off i mean this is the funny part right because

00:33:14.380 --> 00:33:18.450
it starts off with jorge reynoso blasting these

00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:22.829
fucking uh like illegal loggers shoots one of

00:33:22.829 --> 00:33:24.970
their fucking legs off he's like a total badass

00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:27.730
he's got like a gold like glock or not even a

00:33:27.730 --> 00:33:30.750
glide looks like a 1911 but it's all gold he's

00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:33.690
like a he's the uh the forest ranger i guess

00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:35.769
you will yeah he's like the head forest or the

00:33:35.769 --> 00:33:38.210
only one really you only see him which is funny

00:33:38.210 --> 00:34:06.759
yeah exactly right he's the only one the driver

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.119
of the truck and tell him that we are almost

00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:51.239
ready. Bring him. What are you doing is illegal.

00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.880
This is an ecological reserve area. It's forbidden

00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:01.019
to cut down trees. Drop your weapons and surrender

00:35:01.019 --> 00:35:12.980
peacefully. But yeah, so he shows up and, you

00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:15.980
know, they're on the side of the road. The three

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:17.539
couples, you know, they're on their way to this

00:35:17.539 --> 00:35:22.599
cabin. And he shows up like, no, I can't help

00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.739
you. Like, I'm waiting for the cops. And the

00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:26.179
kids are like, what the fuck is going on? And

00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:28.119
they see like this guy's in the back of the bed.

00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:33.599
And so they're so it already sets up like, all

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.260
right, this guy's a fucking badass. He's probably

00:35:35.260 --> 00:35:38.260
going to be the hero. uh and if he's not the

00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:40.199
hero then he's secretly gonna be involved with

00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.280
the killings but yeah because he's very like

00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.800
very like you know he's just so quiet like in

00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.639
serious so you don't really know at first like

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.000
is he very stoic yeah very stuck so you don't

00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.360
know if he's gonna be like the killer or the

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.800
hero is he gonna help him he just don't know

00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.300
yet so that's the thing i liked about the movie

00:35:54.300 --> 00:35:56.619
is like there's just all this mystery surrounding

00:35:56.619 --> 00:35:58.199
going on you're like you don't know who's who

00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.099
or what's what's gonna happen yeah especially

00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:02.980
because the main girl sylvia she you know And

00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:04.940
in the opening scene where they run into each

00:36:04.940 --> 00:36:06.800
other, she recognizes them. Like, where do I

00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.440
know this fool from? Yeah. And it turns out that,

00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.440
you know, she has a history with this fool because

00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:17.519
they show up to the cabin. And, you know, we

00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.239
kind of get a little bit of a backstory there

00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.739
about why, you know, why they're not supposed

00:36:21.739 --> 00:36:23.659
to be at this cabin. Like, what's the lore around

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:29.199
this cabin? Silvia says that the house has been

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.340
closed for more than 12 years, since her mother

00:36:31.340 --> 00:36:35.239
died. Yes, look, you can see it. Hey, Cesar,

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.199
and is it true about her mother? Why? Well, they

00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.420
say she drowned in the lake around here, and

00:36:41.420 --> 00:36:44.820
the body was never found. What do you know? Well,

00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:47.079
I know the same as you, but I don't think it's

00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.119
convenient to talk about it in front of Silvia.

00:36:49.340 --> 00:36:54.539
Of course. Hey, and her father? As far as I know,

00:36:54.619 --> 00:37:02.269
I haven't seen him since her mother died. And

00:37:02.269 --> 00:37:05.650
then, you know, this fool, Jaguar. His name is

00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:11.980
Jaguar. He shows up to kind of... you know let

00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:13.760
them know hey be safe you know there's some weird

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.960
shit going on and she basically you know finally

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.159
realized like oh this i know this boy he was

00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:20.719
from my childhood and i guess they had like a

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.219
secret like a secret love affair yeah they're

00:37:23.219 --> 00:37:25.079
like child sweethearts yeah because remember

00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.619
they were like they carved their names on the

00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:29.380
tree exactly yeah yeah she walks up to like a

00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:31.440
tree and there's like a you know the the j and

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.780
the s yeah carved into the into the the trunk

00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:39.750
of the tree um But then we're also introduced

00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:41.949
to Jacinto, who's like the first red herring

00:37:41.949 --> 00:37:43.889
of the movie. He's like the caretaker of the

00:37:43.889 --> 00:37:47.289
cabin. He's all dirty and shit. Yeah, that was

00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:50.170
played by Alfredo Gutierrez, El Turco, who was

00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:53.170
like in a million movies as a small role or a

00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:55.110
leading role. Here he's kind of in a small role,

00:37:55.250 --> 00:37:58.769
but he's in everything. Oh, yeah, yeah. Del Turco,

00:37:58.809 --> 00:38:02.840
yeah. And of course, you know, he's the fucking

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:04.579
the funny thing is he's walking around like with

00:38:04.579 --> 00:38:12.380
red chucks Maybe he's the killer maybe maybe

00:38:12.380 --> 00:38:28.380
it's just weird, but you don't know Chicas, el

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:30.679
es Don Jacinto, el administrador del rancho.

00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.119
Ella es Tamara y ella es Laura, compañeras de

00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.659
escuela. Mucho gusto. Encantada. Don Jacinto,

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.179
necesitamos leña para la chimenea. Y que nos

00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:42.320
conecte, por favor, el gas para tener agua caliente.

00:38:43.320 --> 00:39:01.960
Enseguida, niña. No faltaba más. Gracias. again

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.519
there's just so much mystery going on yeah it's

00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:09.360
um yeah but you know it kind of lends into the

00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.300
story right because i mean it helps kind of create

00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:14.000
this tension between the characters it helps

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.960
with like um you know eventually when the characters

00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.280
start you know the they start converging towards

00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.239
the end where all the real action happens like

00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.059
okay now i get why you know this person was with

00:39:25.059 --> 00:39:29.650
that person and shit like that so yeah um Yeah,

00:39:29.690 --> 00:39:31.769
I mean, I don't know. There's some good kills

00:39:31.769 --> 00:39:36.530
in here. We finally get a flashback and get told

00:39:36.530 --> 00:39:38.829
the true story of what happened here. And I guess

00:39:38.829 --> 00:39:43.809
it was Sylvia's mom. Yeah, she had problems with

00:39:43.809 --> 00:39:46.969
the dad. Yeah, she accused the dad of cheating

00:39:46.969 --> 00:39:52.320
naturally. The dad's like, no, fuck no. um she

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.460
decides to leave but what ends up happening is

00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:57.400
they the story goes is that she drowned yeah

00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.079
she drowned in the lake and no one's seen her

00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.800
yeah her body her body was never found um but

00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.820
yeah so i mean you know what you already know

00:40:06.820 --> 00:40:08.440
what happened to this movie right so all these

00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.719
kids are in this cabin they start getting picked

00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.019
off one by one um there's actually a really cool

00:40:14.019 --> 00:40:17.179
scene where and you look online and this is the

00:40:17.179 --> 00:40:22.289
scene that everyone talks about um And the Jacinto,

00:40:22.449 --> 00:40:24.570
you know, as I said, he's the caretaker. So he

00:40:24.570 --> 00:40:26.949
kind of just looms around this cabin throughout

00:40:26.949 --> 00:40:30.050
the entire movie. And finally, when shit starts

00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:34.550
getting good, you know, they're scared. Like

00:40:34.550 --> 00:40:39.030
someone's creeping on the cabin. And all of a

00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:40.670
sudden, a fucking head flies through the window.

00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:44.659
And the girls start screaming and shit. Ends

00:40:44.659 --> 00:40:46.800
up being Jacinto is not the killer because his

00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.500
head just flew through the fucking window. And

00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:51.480
now we're left thinking, all right, who the fuck

00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.539
can possibly be the killer now? Is it the mother

00:40:54.539 --> 00:40:58.400
that we never knew died for sure? Or is it the

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:03.639
dad? Or somebody else? I mean, you never know.

00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.139
People would assume it's the dad, but... you

00:41:06.139 --> 00:41:07.900
just don't know for sure yeah you just don't

00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:13.539
know um but you know as it all happens you know

00:41:13.539 --> 00:41:15.639
they get locked up in this cabin there's like

00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.519
a a friday the 13th style death in this because

00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:21.940
uh one of the girls tamara decides while all

00:41:21.940 --> 00:41:24.059
this chaos is happening she decides she has to

00:41:24.059 --> 00:41:27.000
go to the bathroom And she can't hold it anymore.

00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.420
So she goes to the bathroom and, blam, gets caught

00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:32.920
with a fucking axe to the face, you know, all

00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.340
off right at the 13th. I love those scenes. Whenever

00:41:35.340 --> 00:41:37.280
they show the axe on the head, I was just, I

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.530
don't know, the imagery just looks so cool. so

00:41:39.530 --> 00:41:41.650
if i get killed if i get killed in the slasher

00:41:41.650 --> 00:41:43.510
style i hope they throw a hatchet on my fucking

00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:46.030
head that's how i want to die i mean that's like

00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:49.389
the the classic uh slasher kill is getting a

00:41:49.389 --> 00:41:52.570
fucking some kind of knife or an axe or hatchet

00:41:52.570 --> 00:41:55.130
or something to the fucking face yeah and just

00:41:55.130 --> 00:41:57.650
falling against a wall and then the blood is

00:41:57.650 --> 00:41:59.369
just dripping down your face i don't know what

00:41:59.369 --> 00:42:01.750
it is i just love that image it's like please

00:42:01.750 --> 00:42:03.230
if you're gonna kill me that way you do it like

00:42:03.230 --> 00:42:07.329
that the crime scene photos will be dope yeah

00:42:07.329 --> 00:42:11.380
it's um Yeah. Well, while this is happening,

00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.460
I guess it's not hard to decipher who the who

00:42:14.460 --> 00:42:17.739
the killer is, because after all the kids, you

00:42:17.739 --> 00:42:19.699
know, they get stalked and killed. It ends up

00:42:19.699 --> 00:42:23.579
being that Sylvia's dad, the owner of the cabin,

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.360
is the killer. I mean, he's I mean, he's holding

00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.880
a knife in the cover. So it's not a mystery,

00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.820
but it's still good to just still like, you know,

00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.159
go in and not knowing anything, you know. Even

00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:37.559
if you do know, you're just like, well, let me

00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.239
see how this plays out. And then, yeah, it plays

00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:41.780
out really good. Then you find out why he's doing

00:42:41.780 --> 00:42:45.039
it. Yeah, he gives the backstory. Yeah, he's

00:42:45.039 --> 00:43:04.099
a fucking psycho. You're just like your mother,

00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:08.719
always questioning me, always pressuring me.

00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.400
That was it. That selfishness was what killed

00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:29.099
her. You were too young to remember. But that

00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:39.480
day... Decidió abandonarme. Abandonarme a mí.

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:44.840
A mí que le había dado todo lo que una mujer

00:43:44.840 --> 00:44:13.380
puede soñar. Todo. Menos cariño. All these years.

00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:22.079
And all for what? For you to fall in love and

00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:28.440
break up with anyone. One of these days. Just

00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:38.659
like you thought it would be your mother. Separarnos.

00:44:38.659 --> 00:45:07.320
Separarnos. in the lake and then scream and that's

00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:39.889
why I had to kill Tú eres todo lo que tengo.

00:45:41.869 --> 00:46:49.760
Y no voy a permitir que nadie nos separe. crazy

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.139
guy kills his wife drowned her body and uh now

00:46:53.139 --> 00:46:56.320
he's ready to you know kill everyone else who's

00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.360
left which is his daughter and haguar they should

00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:01.900
yeah they should have uh they should have been

00:47:01.900 --> 00:47:03.960
a couple man they should they should have rekindled

00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.199
the love there's like a jealousy love story between

00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:10.699
uh sylvia and her dude um because he sees her

00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:13.079
you know getting attached to Hogwarts. I mean,

00:47:13.099 --> 00:47:15.179
why wouldn't you? The dude's fucking, you know,

00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.739
a buff macho man with a fucking gun. And then,

00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:19.659
I mean, they're not supposed to be the same age

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:21.119
because technically he's supposed to be older.

00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:22.840
He's older. But in real life, they're both the

00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.340
same age. They're much older than the rest of

00:47:26.340 --> 00:47:28.219
the cast. The rest of the cast are much younger,

00:47:28.420 --> 00:47:32.699
which is funny. Yeah, well, I mean, look, this

00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:36.780
one is a clear slasher in my opinion. And I think

00:47:36.780 --> 00:47:40.900
out of the two movies from this episode, this

00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:44.219
is definitely going to be the better, the better

00:47:44.219 --> 00:47:47.079
one. Yeah. I mean, I will say it does play out

00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.380
slowly. Like it does take its time to build up,

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.960
but it's a good builder upper. Like you're in

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.099
it and you're just like, Oh, what's going to

00:47:53.099 --> 00:47:57.139
happen next? Oh shit. Storm's coming. Oh shit.

00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.800
You know, what's going to happen now? Like all

00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.199
this mystery and then you're just trying to figure

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.519
out what's going on. And then that music score

00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:07.420
helps it too. It's so like eerie sounding. I

00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:09.320
just love it. Yeah. There was definitely some,

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.260
um, There was one scene in particular. Like synths?

00:48:13.260 --> 00:48:15.659
Yeah, it's like a synthy soundtrack, but it had

00:48:15.659 --> 00:48:18.539
like the people who have seen the movie Cannibal

00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:21.440
Holocaust would know. There's like the score

00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.679
from Riz Ortolani. It's like that doom, doom,

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.400
doom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That droning, brooding

00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.780
synth sound. There's one cue in Bosque de Muerte

00:48:34.780 --> 00:48:37.440
that has that similar style. And I was like,

00:48:37.460 --> 00:48:39.420
oh, hell yeah. It's just going to get real right

00:48:39.420 --> 00:48:42.360
now. The music helps as well. Everything about

00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.800
this movie is good. It's great. I'm glad people

00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.780
discovered this when it got uploaded online.

00:48:49.780 --> 00:48:53.340
I think this is one that if someone were to release

00:48:53.340 --> 00:48:56.059
this, like Vinegar or Severin or Arrow or anybody,

00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:01.280
I think people would kind of hate the fact that

00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.019
it's slow. But appreciate it for the last 40

00:49:05.019 --> 00:49:07.179
minutes or maybe like 30 minutes. Yeah, it's

00:49:07.179 --> 00:49:09.260
like 30. Because that's where all the good shit

00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:12.460
happens. And you actually do see blood in this.

00:49:12.460 --> 00:49:15.440
So then the kills aren't off camera in this one

00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.340
like they are in Panico. Yeah. And like I said,

00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:20.800
it was written as a slasher. And then it turns

00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.599
out to be a slasher. It's not just like, OK,

00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:24.320
we're going to try to make one. And then it gets

00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.519
fucked up along the way here. It's like they

00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.539
just kept it straight early. No changes. Just

00:49:28.539 --> 00:49:32.360
keep going. It's just funny that it's like. they

00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.619
they decided to start ripping off friday the

00:49:34.619 --> 00:49:38.539
13th like almost 15 years after yeah and i know

00:49:38.539 --> 00:49:40.639
this got released in theaters but very shortly

00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.699
by million dollar and then it just got thrown

00:49:42.699 --> 00:49:45.039
on video after that oh shit so i might have been

00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.860
dope seeing that in theaters imagine just walking

00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:49.440
and you're like hey a new mexican slasher is

00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.000
this do you think is this something i would assume

00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:56.880
Was it shot on 16 or was it shot on video? It

00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.579
looked like 35 to me. 35? It looked like 35,

00:49:59.659 --> 00:50:02.059
honestly. It didn't look 16. I could be wrong.

00:50:02.099 --> 00:50:04.079
It could be 16, but it looked like they definitely

00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.579
shot it on film, of course. But it was obviously

00:50:06.579 --> 00:50:08.539
intended for the theatrical market. And then

00:50:08.539 --> 00:50:11.239
around 93, that's when they were just short theatrical

00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.280
release window and then just dump it on video

00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.599
after. So that was the case here. Damn, that

00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:18.179
would have been fucking sick to see this on.

00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.539
Yeah. At first I thought it was just a video

00:50:20.539 --> 00:50:22.340
home, but then I was like, no, this is theatrical,

00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.519
like the way the credits are rolling. And then,

00:50:24.539 --> 00:50:26.659
like, I seen a one sheet poster of this before,

00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.239
actually. So I was like, okay, this definitely

00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.619
got a theatrical release. Oh, shit. Okay. By

00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:35.179
Million Dollar. Damn, Million Dollar. Million

00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:37.099
Dollar Video Corp, yeah. And then, of course,

00:50:37.099 --> 00:50:38.800
they did the video release after. Naturally.

00:50:39.179 --> 00:50:41.340
Yeah. But no, yeah, this is a good one. I think

00:50:41.340 --> 00:50:43.039
people will enjoy it. Like I said, it's slow

00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.630
and then it builds up. or it's a good one i i

00:50:46.630 --> 00:50:49.590
really enjoy it well one thing we wanted to do

00:50:49.590 --> 00:50:53.309
um because there's so many movies right and yeah

00:50:53.309 --> 00:50:57.690
i don't want to be uh a deciding factor here

00:50:57.690 --> 00:50:59.949
we wanted to you know ask a couple people to

00:50:59.949 --> 00:51:03.190
come in watch these movies with us and help us

00:51:03.190 --> 00:51:06.670
decide is this a slasher or is it not a slasher

00:51:06.670 --> 00:51:10.530
um so we got a couple people you know see to

00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:14.539
you know Give us their opinion and maybe, I don't

00:51:14.539 --> 00:51:16.639
know, sway one way or the other because I don't

00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.659
know what they're going to say. I'm purposely

00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:22.960
waiting to hear what they're saying until I put

00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.300
it into the show, edit it into the show. But

00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:29.780
if they sound interesting, check it out. Try

00:51:29.780 --> 00:51:33.639
to find the movie. I'm sure these tapes are available

00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:38.119
on eBay and shit. They're not too scarce. If

00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.139
we find sources, we'll put them in the show notes.

00:51:41.659 --> 00:51:44.420
We're not going to let you guys not watch these.

00:51:44.619 --> 00:51:46.619
So maybe these will be on the show notes. Maybe

00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:49.539
not. I don't know. We'll see. If they are, they

00:51:49.539 --> 00:51:51.579
are. And if they're not, then fuck it. Yeah,

00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.500
I don't know what happened there. Just don't

00:51:54.500 --> 00:51:56.260
be hitting up Armando and asking, oh, yo, bro,

00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.639
that's some slasher? Oh, my God, bro. Did I get

00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.480
one the other day? No, I didn't. It was for another

00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.940
movie, but yeah. But yeah, these are two great

00:52:04.940 --> 00:52:07.400
ones for what they are. You know, Panico is not

00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.260
a slasher, really. It wants to be one, but it's

00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:14.099
still entertaining. Bosque de Marte, they obviously

00:52:14.099 --> 00:52:16.039
know what they're doing. That's a good one. This

00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.130
is a slasher for sure. So if you're going to

00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:21.710
ask me about this one, yes, it's a slasher. I

00:52:21.710 --> 00:52:26.090
wonder what's up with the Mexico slashers being

00:52:26.090 --> 00:52:30.289
themed into forests or national parks and shit,

00:52:30.369 --> 00:52:32.849
you know? Because there's a couple of them. The

00:52:32.849 --> 00:52:34.829
easiest way to fucking get a permit is, hey,

00:52:34.929 --> 00:52:38.949
let's get a permit for the forest. Because they're

00:52:38.949 --> 00:52:40.269
going to go to a city or they're going to go

00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:43.070
to, like, I don't know. I mean, where else do

00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:44.530
slashers take place? I mean, they mainly take

00:52:44.530 --> 00:52:45.690
place in the forest. What do you think? Yeah,

00:52:45.710 --> 00:52:48.769
that's true. Yeah. They're camping or there's,

00:52:48.769 --> 00:52:50.510
you know, exactly. So it's like, yeah, they're

00:52:50.510 --> 00:52:53.190
just going to do it in the forest. Fuck it. Yeah.

00:52:53.289 --> 00:52:54.789
You don't got to shut down a city, right? Just

00:52:54.789 --> 00:52:56.969
close off a section. I don't even need to get

00:52:56.969 --> 00:53:00.329
a permit. Just ask. Or guerrilla style. Just

00:53:00.329 --> 00:53:02.590
steal the shots. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There

00:53:02.590 --> 00:53:04.469
we go. Perfect. All right. Well, this one was

00:53:04.469 --> 00:53:06.130
short and sweet. You know, it's the it's the

00:53:06.130 --> 00:53:09.570
first episode. So we'll let you guys decide if

00:53:09.570 --> 00:53:11.760
you end up watching it. You know. Hit us up.

00:53:11.860 --> 00:53:16.420
Tag us on Instagram. Or if you're on Letterboxd,

00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:18.199
do the Letterboxd review. Let us know that you

00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.059
watched it. And let us know. Is it a slasher?

00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:22.920
Is it not a slasher? Yeah, let us know. Like,

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.179
literally. Send us messages. Send us voice notes.

00:53:25.219 --> 00:53:28.539
Whatever. Emails. Blow up our messages. Blow

00:53:28.539 --> 00:53:31.539
up Joey's. Don't blame me. I'll take, like, a

00:53:31.539 --> 00:53:33.559
day to respond now. yeah i don't get i don't

00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:37.320
get no like i'm dating now so i'm busy guys yeah

00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:41.280
there it is i'm still single so for the lady

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.980
listeners you know if i got that very white voice

00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:47.159
yeah no yeah hit up joey but yeah joey single

00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:50.159
hit him up with dad hit him up yeah i'll respond

00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.619
to the day like i said i take too much i'm sorry

00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:55.619
all right well hopefully you guys like it you

00:53:55.619 --> 00:53:58.300
guys know what to do find us online um stay tuned

00:53:58.300 --> 00:54:02.369
for next week's episode That one's going to be

00:54:02.369 --> 00:54:03.949
good, too. Yeah, that one's going to be really

00:54:03.949 --> 00:54:06.489
good. So stay tuned. Of course, we're going to

00:54:06.489 --> 00:54:08.889
have another couple of guests weigh in on that

00:54:08.889 --> 00:54:12.010
one. But for now, these are the guests for the

00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:18.789
first episode. And they watch Panico and Bosque

00:54:18.789 --> 00:54:23.369
de Muerte. And we'll see if they liked it. Let's

00:54:23.369 --> 00:54:25.429
see what they say. Is it a slasher? Is it not?

00:54:25.530 --> 00:54:28.210
I don't know. You guys decide. Yeah, let them

00:54:28.210 --> 00:54:32.070
decide. This is the Unsung Horrors podcast. I'm

00:54:32.070 --> 00:54:37.110
Erica. I'm Lance. And I watched Bosque de Muerte,

00:54:37.289 --> 00:54:43.170
which I would say is a slasher, but you have

00:54:43.170 --> 00:54:46.230
to wait an hour of its already short runtime

00:54:46.230 --> 00:54:50.269
of about 80 minutes for it to become that. You

00:54:50.269 --> 00:54:54.230
know, it has a lot of the trappings of a slasher.

00:54:54.429 --> 00:54:56.590
You know, there's stalking, there's a voyeuristic

00:54:56.590 --> 00:55:00.139
element earlier in the film. But once it does

00:55:00.139 --> 00:55:02.460
finally get around to the gore, there's a few

00:55:02.460 --> 00:55:04.679
standard kills like an axe to the head and a

00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.880
throat slash. But most slashers have one really

00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.300
memorable kill. And for me, that's definitely

00:55:10.300 --> 00:55:13.099
Jacinto's head being thrown through the window.

00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.619
So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a slasher,

00:55:17.739 --> 00:55:21.719
but one that you have to be very, very patient

00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:25.039
with. What about yours, Lance? I watched, I'm

00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.019
going to use the English title, Panic in the

00:55:27.019 --> 00:55:30.460
Forest from 1989. Panico en el Bosque. There

00:55:30.460 --> 00:55:33.800
you go. Thank you. I'm from the Rio Grande Valley.

00:55:33.860 --> 00:55:35.059
I should be able to nail this. You should be

00:55:35.059 --> 00:55:38.300
better than this. I am not very good at it. Okay,

00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.519
so there's a 10 -second cold open before the

00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.260
credits start that certainly sets the film up

00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:45.599
to be a slasher. It's what looks like a woman

00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.440
being murdered by this. a disfigured hand off

00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.539
screen. And right away I was sold, thinking,

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.360
okay, we might have a slasher on our hands here.

00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.539
Then we're quickly introduced to some young kids,

00:55:56.780 --> 00:55:58.960
which is, again, classic setup for a slasher,

00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.099
right? We're meeting the killer's future victims,

00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:03.719
upcoming victims. They're probably going to venture

00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.920
into the woods later that evening, and we'll

00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.820
get a little bit of what that title hints at.

00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:12.980
And we also cut to this disfigured killer strolling

00:56:12.980 --> 00:56:15.619
in the woods, grunting and moaning like Madman

00:56:15.619 --> 00:56:18.659
Mars. Okay. So I was like, here we go. This is

00:56:18.659 --> 00:56:22.679
it. But his first kill is killing a mother who

00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.239
is kind of abusing and mistreating her daughter,

00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:28.500
which was weird. Okay. And that's kind of what

00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:30.760
this turns out to be. This strange homeless guy

00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.079
who's, you know, he could pass as a weird murderer,

00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.280
like a murderer in the woods, but it's rather

00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.719
a sweet, dim -witted guy. Think classic like

00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:43.480
Frankenstein Monster or even a Lenny from Of

00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.969
Mice and Men. who loves children, wants to protect

00:56:46.969 --> 00:56:50.349
them, but is a little bit dumb and just too strong.

00:56:50.530 --> 00:56:52.710
It made me think a little of Mr. Abbey from An

00:56:52.710 --> 00:56:55.230
Eye for an Eye, that 1973 horror we covered,

00:56:55.429 --> 00:56:58.010
who kills parents who mistreat their children.

00:56:58.489 --> 00:57:02.329
So any hint of a slasher or fake out of it being

00:57:02.329 --> 00:57:04.849
a slasher, other than that cold open, takes place

00:57:04.849 --> 00:57:07.929
in the last 15, 20 minutes of the movie. In between,

00:57:08.010 --> 00:57:10.309
it's just a lot of melodrama and character building.

00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:15.519
And there's this engaged couple. Drunk punks,

00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.280
a grandmother and her grandson, they're lost

00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.000
in the woods. The killer's roaming. I'm like,

00:57:20.059 --> 00:57:22.420
okay, here we go. Bring on the grunting madman.

00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:25.579
But it just turns into the punks killing a park

00:57:25.579 --> 00:57:28.800
ranger, killing a girl and chasing the kid who

00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.579
saw them murder her. So this is not a slasher

00:57:31.579 --> 00:57:35.860
at all. Okay. There's a semi -high body count,

00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.289
but most of the kills are done by accident. We

00:57:38.289 --> 00:57:40.969
have some park rangers who die in a fire because

00:57:40.969 --> 00:57:43.449
some drunk campers accidentally started a fire.

00:57:43.630 --> 00:57:45.769
And then the punks are doing all the killing.

00:57:46.829 --> 00:57:49.170
I mean, overall, I think this movie, I think

00:57:49.170 --> 00:57:51.550
Panic in the Forest is fine. It's very messy,

00:57:51.610 --> 00:57:53.230
but I love the campiness from the characters,

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especially the grandmother. She is so fun to

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watch. Felt like a telenovela in the woods. And

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you know me, I love soap opera vibes in my horror

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films. So I leaned more into liking this than

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finding it boring. It's something I'd recommend,

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but I would preface it by saying, do not expect

00:58:09.590 --> 00:58:12.750
a slasher movie. It sounds like it has all the

00:58:12.750 --> 00:58:14.949
ingredients of it, but they just did not come

00:58:14.949 --> 00:58:20.699
together to form. a slasher pie yeah yeah they

00:58:20.699 --> 00:58:22.900
had they had the setting the forest they had

00:58:22.900 --> 00:58:25.420
the creepy looking grunting yeah point of view

00:58:25.420 --> 00:58:29.199
from the killer but it's just no yeah bosque

00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.639
de muerte also had like you know the horny teens

00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.059
you had you know three different um couples that

00:58:35.059 --> 00:58:38.000
are all going to this remote place and um the

00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.750
killer is very predictable like if you If you

00:58:41.750 --> 00:58:43.829
don't guess who the killer is, you've never seen

00:58:43.829 --> 00:58:49.010
a movie before. But it it's the same where it

00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:51.730
like it had all the ingredients and I was starting

00:58:51.730 --> 00:58:53.769
to get worried. I was like, is anyone going to

00:58:53.769 --> 00:58:56.369
fucking die in this movie? And then finally,

00:58:56.449 --> 00:59:01.289
OK, we get to that. So but I mean, I I did like

00:59:01.289 --> 00:59:03.769
it, but it just took a really long time for me

00:59:03.769 --> 00:59:06.090
to get there. So I'm a little I'm a little split

00:59:06.090 --> 00:59:09.130
on my recommendation for Bullskated Marthay.

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Anyway, thanks to Joey and Armando for having

00:59:12.699 --> 00:59:15.460
us share our thoughts. Yeah, love the podcast.

00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:19.800
So I just finished watching Panico del Bosque

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and Bosque de Muerte. Between the two, honestly,

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I like Bosque de Muerte more because it seems

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to follow a lot of the slasher tropes front to

00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:35.239
back without any real issues outside of the last.

00:59:35.789 --> 00:59:38.570
20 minutes of it actually being a full -on slasher

00:59:38.570 --> 00:59:42.409
where Panico al Bosque seemed more like a police

00:59:42.409 --> 00:59:49.389
periodical slash family drama with like the last

00:59:49.389 --> 00:59:52.269
10 minutes of it actually being a slasher with

00:59:52.269 --> 00:59:57.489
no indication of who the real killer was. I actually

00:59:57.489 --> 01:00:00.869
got a little confused because I thought the three

01:00:00.869 --> 01:00:08.820
punk slash like I'm assuming teen delinquents

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were the actual killers that were causing a racket

01:00:16.179 --> 01:00:20.780
but you know sometimes people got thrown in curveballs

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so yeah I going back to it Busque de Muerte was

01:00:28.619 --> 01:00:33.780
my favorite of the two though so yeah and I think,

01:00:33.820 --> 01:00:36.400
like I said before, they both have slasher elements

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.519
to it, with Busque de Muerte being more of a

01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:46.480
slasher than Panico en el Busque. Oh, I butchered

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that one. Sorry about that. ¿Oyeron eso? ¿Sí?

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¿En el cortizo? Seguramente el alto se dio un

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toque baboso. Let's go!