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Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us on

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another episode of the Trash Mix Podcast. What

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number is this now, Joey? This is episode number

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10. Fuck, episode 10? That went by fast. That

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went by really fast, yeah. Oh, Mike's here, by

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the way, everybody. Mike Aguirre, see it on 16mm.

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We'll put a sound clip of the projector. That's

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perfect. That's actually perfect. Today we're

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going to talk about a very violent film from

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1987, but released until 1991, which is entitled

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La Venganza de los Punks. I'm sorry, it's not

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SpongeBob, by the way. I know a lot of y 'all

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were excited about the SpongeBob movie. Hey,

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I'm just saying, because people were confused

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when they came in. They're like, hey, this isn't

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Spongebob. Bob is Spongebob. Or Josie. What was

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playing that night? Josie and the Pussycats.

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Yeah, Pussycats, yeah. Luckily, people were coming

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for punks, too. I was telling you, you should

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have gone into the other theater and go introduce

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Josie and the Pussycats. And then Hope was like,

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I should wear the cat earrings to punks. I was

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like, ah, she should. But yeah, so today we're

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going to talk about La Venganza de los Punks.

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And it's a sequel or more of a follow up, if

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anything, to Entrepidos Punks, which was released

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in 86. Well, filmed in 86 and released until

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like 88, I believe. And I wanted to talk about

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this one and show this one on the big screen

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just because I felt. This one was much more better,

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I guess, in terms of storytelling. There's a

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lot of violent scenes in it. Overall, it's just

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more fun than the first one. Not to say I don't

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like the first one, but I always felt the second

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one was more superior than this one. What about

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you, Joey? What do you think about this one?

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Yeah, I think this one is more of a... It's more

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of a crowd pleaser just for the fact that there's

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just tons and tons of deaths. And it's not to

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take away from the original because the original

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Entrepidos Punks is is is a fucking banger as

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well. But like you said, this one just kind of

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ups the ante, really. The the punks are crazier.

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The deaths are crazier. And it's just I guess

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it's kind of a product of the director himself

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that which we'll talk about in a little bit.

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But, yeah, I think this second one. if you're

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playing for a group of friends, this is probably

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the one to play. Yeah, when we played it at the

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Frida, people were, like, excited. They were,

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like, you know, like, pretty shocked and, like,

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you know, laughing along with the jokes and stuff,

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screaming at those kills. Yeah. It was just amazing.

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I was super stoked with the turnout to the Frida

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because, like, I didn't know how people would

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be receptive to this. You know, sometimes you

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get people who are like, oh, we're coming out.

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But this one, people actually came out for this

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one at the Frida. And we're very stoked on the

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turnout. And thank you, Trevor Dillon, for allowing

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something like this to happen at the Frida Cinema.

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I feel like the Frida is the only one that's

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going to allow us to do this type of shit. Isn't

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it cool? They could play Josie and the Pussycats,

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SpongeBob the movie, and by Vengance of the Lost

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Punks. All in a span of a day. What theater does

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that? That's why you have to support places like

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this. They're playing everything for everybody.

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They're not playing for a certain crowd. They're

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playing it for everybody, for whatever they want

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to see. So, yeah. do you think the punks turned

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out for this one would you say there was one

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guy in particular who doing like during the intro

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when we were on stage who came out he had like

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a studded leather jacket he had like the black

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shorts with all the patches and stuff yeah he

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was literally so studded out like it hurt my

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eyes seeing the light reflect off of all of his

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studs and i was just like yeah this is probably

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the most punk guy here whatever he was definitely

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the most punk of the night for sure yeah looks

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wise at least and he won one of the uh the giveaways

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right he won because he was the only guy there

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that was actually waiting for the interview yeah

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waiting to be on the podcast and uh yeah so let's

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break down the movie a little bit let's see what

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exactly is this movie about joey well i know

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it's called venganza de los punks which in english

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means the vengeance of the punks but essentially

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what this is is um the the uh the cop from the

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first movie marco uh You know, he's chilling

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at home, and the punks escape from prison, which

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is the first scene of the movie, and they just

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go on a rampage. They kill his family, and then

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he finds justice for his own family. So it's

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really, it should be called Venganza del Policia,

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but, you know. Yeah. I mean, they got their revenge

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at first, but then, yeah, it is just mostly about

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the cop getting revenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which

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is played by? Juan Valentin. Who is? The greatest

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mariachi singer that's alive right now. He's

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not the best, but he's the best one around right

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now because he's still the only one alive from

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that era. I was about to say, yeah, his era is

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gone. He's still chugging along. And that's how

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he markets himself now. He's one of the last

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of the greats, which is true because he actually

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is a really good singer. If you guys ever see

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him live, you guys are going to be like, wow,

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this guy actually knows how to fucking sing.

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And you met him. I met him twice, yeah. Yeah,

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I was going to say, you had him actually see

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the box. The lobby car and everything. Yeah,

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he was just like. He looked at it like he was

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signing other stuff for the people. And then

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I gave him the lobby card. What was his reaction?

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So literally, he grabs it. And then I gave him

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the pen. And then he just looks at it. And he's

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just like, híjole. He's just like, oh, god. Did

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he elaborate more on it? Nah, he signed it. He

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was cool about it. And then I showed him another

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one. and he said the same things like he's just

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like oh my god but do you think it's like an

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embarrassment for him yeah i don't think so i

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think he was just shocked you know because you

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know he probably hasn't seen anything like that

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for so long yeah And then the second time was

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when I had him sign the Venganza de los Punks

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lobby cards. And he was just like the same thing.

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He's like, oh, my God. He's like, híjole. And

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he can't say shit. He's starting it, man. He

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got paid to do it. And then sadly, he doesn't

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sing in this movie. Every movie that he started,

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he sang in. But in this one, he doesn't sing.

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You know, there's a scene in this where he actually

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probably could have had a little song in there.

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Just right after he quits the police force and

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he goes to get a bowl of albóndigas or some kind

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of sopa or some shit. It looked like pasolena.

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He was drinking the sopa. Yeah, where they pull

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up and then all the punks are coming around the

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circle. Oh, my God. Okay, yeah. He could have

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sang a song about missing his family or something.

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Something, dude. That was the perfect moment

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to put it in. Yeah, the perfect setting. That's

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when he sees the punks driving up. Yeah, that

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would have been perfect. I'm surprised they didn't

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utilize him more for the musical aspects of him

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in the movie. Because he literally, at any point

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in the movie, he does not sing or is musical

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in any way. And I just was like, okay, cool.

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You have a... type of singer that is coming into

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this and there's like no singing whatsoever like

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you know well i guess there's just no time and

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then with this director he was just like no we're

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not we're not gonna have you sing damiana costa

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the director he was a very serious director he

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knew how to make violent movies so when he was

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given a script of a violent movie an action movie

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he was like all right Let's get to work. We're

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going to do it like this, like this, like this.

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Because he used to be a stunt coordinator, so

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he knew how to work all that stuff. Oh, that

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makes sense. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And

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then he would often injure himself, too, for

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that, you know, like on sets and stuff. So he

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was known for that, like just being really hands

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-on, moving around a lot, very serious. He was

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in like, oh, you know, sitting on the chair.

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He was on the fucking set right there. Like,

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all right, let's get it. Let's go, go, go, go,

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go. That's dope, man. You want a director that's

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actually putting himself out there like that

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to make it easier for you as an actor. And there's

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several movies. If you ever look at his other

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movies later, there's scenes where he's in the

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movie and then he has a cast on. And it's not

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fake. It's because he fucking injured himself

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either on that movie or even another movie before

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him. Yeah, he has a cast on. And then one of

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his last movies, yeah, he ended up crippling

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himself because of it. Damn. Well, that's kind

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of a good segue. I know Vinegar Syndrome released

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this, and I think Vinegar Syndrome fans will

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know Damiano Costa because they also released

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another one of his movies that you screened at

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your Trash Max festival. Was it two years ago,

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I think? Yeah. The Infernal Rapist. Thank you,

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Frida. See? Again, shout out to the Frida, man.

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Shout out to the Frida. They literally could

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not put Infernal Rapist on the marquee, so we

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had to go with the Spanish version. Hoping people

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were just like, yeah, we didn't see that. It

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said rape in the title. I'm sure there was some

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tia walking outside the Frida like, what the

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fuck? Looking at the marquee and shit. But he's

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also known for El Fiscal. De Hierro and Calle

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Sangrientas, which, you know, to me, those were

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the ones that really spoke. Those are the ones

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I know of him. So, yeah, I mean, he's pretty

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prolific, like you said. Yeah, very prolific

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in action and crime. When you see his comedies

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and his dramas. You could tell he was probably

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just not into them. That's why they're not good.

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You look at his action crime movies, those are

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his fucking best movies ever. Because he loved

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those movies. Can we go back on the festival?

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How many people walked out during Infernal Rapist?

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Infernal Rapist. I always brag about it. Like,

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I had to walk out, guys. yeah yeah apparently

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it was a guy and his like teenage daughter like

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a 13 year old or something like that's what they

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told me what an idiot that was weird it's like

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why would you bring your teenage daughter to

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go see the infernal he probably saw the rest

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of the movies and thought oh it can't be that

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bad yeah and then he watched fucking dudes getting

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raped in the ass and uh but even like navajeros

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on the first day and everything like that i i

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will confess that on on that sunday i walked

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out halfway during infernal because it was so

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intense and i was like you know what dude i need

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a break for like 10 minutes and they came back

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to it because it was so fucking intense but it

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was uh I think that has been the most memorable

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screening for me, at least, because having people

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walk out is like a badge of honor. Okay, so three

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walkouts. Mike is the third one. Well, I don't

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know if you guys saw this, but during Punks,

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there was a walkout. Oh, there was? It was a

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couple that walked out, yeah. I don't know if

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they were offended or they were just tired or

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what, but they definitely walked out. I was standing

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in the back preparing the gear for the interview

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stuff, and yeah, they walked out. When did they

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leave? In the middle? It was like 30 minutes

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in, right? It was as the kills had started. I

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think it was after the impaling scene. At that

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point, you're so dedicated in. Why would you

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walk out? That is a great kill scene. Oh, wow.

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Okay. So another walkout I can think about? They

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didn't know. Oh, that is too funny. That's so

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far into the movie where what's his name? The

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guy that looks like Groucho Marx gets fucking

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impaled. Yeah, his name is... Tito Guillen, right?

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Yeah, that's Tito Guillen. He's a really nice

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guy. I actually talked to him before. Yeah, he's

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super nice. But it's just like you're that far

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into the movie. That was like almost 50 an hour

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into the movie. Yeah, almost an hour. And they

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walked out at that point? I believe it was at

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that first kill, yeah. It was either that or

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maybe when Tarzan killed the, or not killed,

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but, you know, butchered the sheep. Oh, okay.

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I mean, that would probably make more sense.

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Yeah. But, I mean, those scenes are, like, pretty,

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like, they're five minutes apart. Yeah, that's

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true, yeah. If you guys are listening, hit us

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up and let us know when you walked out so we

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can bookmark that. The only thing I can say is

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if they walked out during the kill scene, the

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animal, they ate it at least. That's always my

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justification for life. They're going to kill

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the animal, they got to eat it at least. That's

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the circle of life. Not to be that guy, but as

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a vegan, I'm going to say it. You can't get mad

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at someone killing an animal on screen eating

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it if you're eating a damn animal yourself. Come

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on now. i don't know but i mean either way yeah

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okay so now we have another one we can brag about

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yeah yeah we gotta walk out in punks which is

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like anytime that anybody walks out of a movie

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because it is like um for me at least if it's

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like oh well this is boring i'm walking out or

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if it's like With this, I would take it as like,

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oh, this is really offensive. I'm like, cool,

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that's a badge of honor. That was offensive and

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you walked out on it. You literally cannot handle

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this. And that's kind of how the producer, Ulysses

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P. Aguirre, was. He was not, how can I say it?

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He was very open. He was just like, you know,

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he likes making violent movies. He knows that

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shit sells. And if people were shocked and still

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pay to see it, he's going to take that as a badge

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of honor. Sure enough, we did it for him. This

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is for him. He'd be happy. He would be so happy

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that somebody walked out and actually fucking

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paid already. I mean, that's all that really

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matters. Who cares if they walk out in the first

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30 seconds? They already paid to get in, so the

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money's already been spent. And hey, they got

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to see some of the movie. You were literally

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paying for being like, all right, entertain me.

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At some point, you may offend me or whatever

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at that point. If you were paying for a ticket

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for something, I mean, you're about to watch.

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punks movie um what do you think it's going to

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be family friendly at that point well you know

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to me this kind of it kind of goes back to people

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not doing enough research on what they're going

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to watch right but i think part of it also is

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if you were to read a description of this most

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people are going to say that this is uh a mad

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max ripoff which it's not really it's far from

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and i think that kind of um misrepresents the

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movie and i think people go in thinking it's

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going to be a Mad Max type of film. And it's

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just so much more violent and more crude. I told

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the people before the movie started, I think

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we're going to watch a really fucking violent

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movie. Yeah. Because there's like extended scenes

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of Satan worship. Señor de las tinieblas, tus

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hijos te adoramos y te pedimos fuerza para vengarnos

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de nuestros enemigos. Y te ofrecemos la sangre

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de este animal. almost like a, a, just promiscuous

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type of sex throughout the entire movie. I mean,

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like you have like, and drugs too, like literally

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like cocaine, drugs and rock and roll. Yeah,

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no, literally this movie is that, and it's like,

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you walk into it. What, what the fuck are you

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expect? You know what I mean? Like, it's not

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going to be something that's family friendly.

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Like you're going to see some fucking edgy shit.

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Sometimes probably stuff of like, um you know

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people getting coked out of their mind and and

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rape and like this like this is a up movie for

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a normal movie viewer you know what i mean but

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like if you're into this come watch it There's

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always another movie playing with a cartoon character

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playing later in the month. If you're into that,

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that's cool. But yeah, just don't expect to see

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violent stuff in that one. If you're not into

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violent stuff, go see that one. If you want to

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see violent stuff, you go to a trash mix show.

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Yeah. well that's what you want to do right you

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want to give someone to remember whether they

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hated it or loved it you know they'll remember

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walking out because they thought it was offensive

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or they thought it was something else or whatever

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the case is and that's the most memorable thing

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at this point i think we're so exposed to stuff

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on a daily level of like even with the shit happening

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in the real world so like if you can walk out

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of something that impacts you enough to like

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remember this it's like okay goal the goal of

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what we are doing has impacted you and it's like

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cool it paid off yeah i mean just like you're

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able to kind of sift through all this shit of

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daily life. And then here's this movie that you

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actually remember a few days later. It's just

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like, okay, great. Cool. That's all we wanted

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this entire time is for you to remember this

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movie and come to the next showing and buy tickets

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to go see a movie. So at least for me, I mean,

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that's the whole point really. All right. You

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know, you can try it. You got to experience something

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new. And I think, you know, selling it as just

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a violent punk movie. I think does a good enough

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job to let you know. One thing about this movie

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and the first Entrepidos Punks that is a little

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deceiving is that there's no real punk ethos

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about it. I feel like it's kind of what, and

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even to this day, how Mexican society views punk

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and punk rock is kind of how this movie plays

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out because they don't really have a deep social

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understanding of what punk is and it definitely

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comes across like that on the screen. This is

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just exploitation. Yeah, that's exactly what

00:18:15.019 --> 00:18:19.069
it feels like. uh if you're punk you rape people

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yeah you you do drugs you do drugs you're an

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alcoholic you're all these other things and there's

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not like that real like diy ethic involved in

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it or anything like that that is like actually

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positive of staying away from the other shit

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but you know i totally agree with you like it

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it is not a full representation of like what

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the punk diy ethic is entirely it's almost like

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this negative thing in a in in a way to society

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It's like, you know, you have your suburban values

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and here's this thing that is like against all

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that. This is, how can I say it? This is like

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the Rosa de Guadalupe. Exploiting a topic that

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you know is not like that. So in this case, these

00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:04.609
punks aren't real. this is just what your parents

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think of punks are like like imagine what they

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are like oh this is punk rock i can imagine like

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you know like then there's the emo episode of

00:19:11.910 --> 00:19:13.690
rosa de guadalupe it's like these emo kids are

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supposedly you know yeah so that's what i'm saying

00:19:16.430 --> 00:19:18.849
it's like this is just like what the people thought

00:19:18.849 --> 00:19:20.970
was punk like you know these punks are bad these

00:19:20.970 --> 00:19:22.970
people are not you know but it's like no it's

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not really like that that's just what you think

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you know because you have conservative values

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or whatever the it is you know because this was

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the so the movie was filmed in 87 released in

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91 91. okay cool yeah so this is like 10 years

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after the 79 type of punk boom of stuff and like

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i guess the tail end of the 80s at that point

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yeah yeah that's kind of what it was booming

00:19:45.369 --> 00:19:47.589
over there too like the mid to ladies it was

00:19:47.589 --> 00:19:50.349
booming over there okay Yeah, because while you

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think of the first wave of punk, you know, in

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the mid to late 70s, it doesn't really reach

00:19:54.950 --> 00:19:58.849
Mexico until I think like 79, 80. With like the

00:19:58.849 --> 00:20:01.150
Clash. Yeah, the Clash, Sex Pistols and that

00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:04.109
type of stuff. And then, of course, you got like

00:20:04.109 --> 00:20:06.250
the fusion of like the new wave shit from America

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coming from the 80s. So Mexico kind of started

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off a little differently than what people think

00:20:13.470 --> 00:20:18.430
of. punk um essentially right i mean um i think

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the the first punk bands in mexico were singing

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in english they weren't even writing songs in

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spanish so that kind of gives you an idea of

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how um punk like punk's growth in mexico went

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from you know um trying to just assimilate to

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a different culture and then creating their own

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scene and their own sensibilities. Do you think

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now, too, with how punk has kind of died out

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here in the States, we still see a bunch of punk

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bands coming out of Mexico at this point. Do

00:20:48.819 --> 00:20:51.359
you think it's because we were so delayed to

00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.960
that? Oh, absolutely, yeah. We still see, even

00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:59.599
with L .A., you still see a surgence of... uh

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mexican punk bands whether it's like you know

00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:04.579
a just straight punk or like ska punk yeah it

00:21:04.579 --> 00:21:07.039
is and it's just like you don't really see people

00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:08.920
being like hey we're forming punk bands these

00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:10.839
days you know what i mean it seems like it's

00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.579
very hispanic influence type of like i don't

00:21:14.579 --> 00:21:18.619
know like i i maybe because the influence was

00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:21.519
so late to mexico and in the late 70s and stuff

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like that compared to here i don't know it's

00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.200
just No, I mean, that's a, that's a, it's definitely

00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:30.660
worth exploring that because like, I mean, I

00:21:30.660 --> 00:21:32.420
can't speak for any other city in the country,

00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:35.400
but I know LA has a huge punk presence in like

00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.599
the East LA areas. It's still prevalent. Yeah.

00:21:39.539 --> 00:21:42.200
Backyard shows. 1000%. I mean, there's tons of

00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.539
even bands that are from here in LA that are

00:21:44.539 --> 00:21:46.319
making music in Spanish. You know, they're not

00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:50.640
even singing in English. So I, I mean, I will

00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:55.660
go on record and say punk as a, as a, as a as

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i i don't know what the word i'm looking for

00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.920
but as a thing is dead um as far as like the

00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:03.680
spirit but uh as far as like a music genre it's

00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.019
thriving here in la for sure yeah yeah absolutely

00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:09.440
there's time there's tons of fucking cool ass

00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.339
bands coming out And I think there's a lot of

00:22:12.339 --> 00:22:15.000
bands coming out from, like, northern Mexico,

00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:17.480
like, Tijuana. Like, border cities, too, like,

00:22:17.539 --> 00:22:19.960
are really thriving with punk. Obviously, Mexico

00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.660
City has a thriving scene as well. Monterrey.

00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:29.680
Monterrey, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. Is punk

00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.140
dead or is it not dead? I don't know. I mean,

00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:33.859
I guess you can interpret it how you want, but

00:22:33.859 --> 00:22:35.940
I guess for now we can just say punk is Mexican

00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:38.559
now. Punk is Mexican. You know what? That's a

00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.500
bumper sticker and a t -shirt waiting to happen.

00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.740
Punk is Mexican. Some racist, bigoted person

00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:49.319
is hearing this. Don't be in denial. Your skinhead

00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.480
punk shit, nobody listens to that shit. Well,

00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:53.039
hey, man, look, I know people want to say the

00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.500
Sex Pistols invented punk, and I mean, that's

00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:59.119
just, it's not true. So punk was invented by

00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.690
minorities. Let's just put it out there. Anyone

00:23:01.690 --> 00:23:05.329
who says otherwise is a fool. Exactly. Punk is

00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:10.549
minority. Punk is Mexican now. We're taking it

00:23:10.549 --> 00:23:12.529
back. Someone's going to get mad. Someone's going

00:23:12.529 --> 00:23:14.269
to get mad. But look, the truth is the truth,

00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:16.529
man. You can't argue against it when you have

00:23:16.529 --> 00:23:19.609
bands that predate the Sex Pistols that are punk.

00:23:19.869 --> 00:23:22.650
I mean, you can even go as far as say the Stooges

00:23:22.650 --> 00:23:25.400
are the first punk band. I know people would

00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:27.079
just call it proto -punk because they kind of

00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.579
blended more things than what punk was known

00:23:29.579 --> 00:23:32.440
for. But, I mean, the Sex Pistols were far from

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.160
being the first punk band. Maybe pop punk, if

00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:37.900
anything. They weren't even real punks, right?

00:23:38.059 --> 00:23:41.660
They were super pop sounding. I'm not even a

00:23:41.660 --> 00:23:44.660
fan of the Sex Pistols, to be honest. I mean,

00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.140
I can't say I hate them, but I don't like them

00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:49.200
either. But when I listen to them and other bands,

00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:50.519
it's like, they don't really sound punk. They're

00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:54.200
just like... Pop punk. I don't know. I like PIL

00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.759
better than Sex Pistols, to be honest. And then

00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.720
I put on Crass. I'm like, this is punk. Yeah,

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Crass is punk. I was about to ask you right now.

00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.079
Did you get the pre -order for the Crass? Not

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:05.319
yet, but I'm going to. Okay. Vinegar, but just

00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.160
put out the Crass. Yeah, the Crass documentary.

00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:11.119
Okay. Now, when you listen to Crass and Sex Pistols,

00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:13.339
who are you going to go for for punk? Crass all

00:24:13.339 --> 00:24:16.099
day. Even though Crass has a different sound

00:24:16.099 --> 00:24:19.470
and they do different kind of, you know. you

00:24:19.470 --> 00:24:21.509
know the music and everything it's like their

00:24:21.509 --> 00:24:23.670
ideology and everything that's what punk is all

00:24:23.670 --> 00:24:25.890
about you literally have crass talking shit on

00:24:25.890 --> 00:24:28.609
the class saying they're bubblegum pop basically

00:24:28.609 --> 00:24:31.369
for the masses at this point like in some of

00:24:31.369 --> 00:24:34.630
their songs you're just like okay yeah I would

00:24:34.630 --> 00:24:36.269
love to talk about crass some more but you know

00:24:36.269 --> 00:24:40.150
but right now but all I will say though is for

00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:46.269
sure is crass is punk yes sex pistols no no crass

00:24:46.269 --> 00:24:49.390
i would consider actual diy punk yeah they actually

00:24:49.390 --> 00:24:52.089
live to the values and aesthetics that they yeah

00:24:52.089 --> 00:24:53.950
talked about yeah at that point you know what

00:24:53.950 --> 00:24:57.309
i mean exactly so yeah sex pistols did not even

00:24:57.309 --> 00:25:02.109
punk we'll go we'll go we'll go into our favorite

00:25:02.109 --> 00:25:04.789
punk bands later yeah so people are definitely

00:25:04.789 --> 00:25:06.930
gonna get mad well you asked during the interviews

00:25:06.930 --> 00:25:10.279
at the frida whose people who their favorite

00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.579
punk bands were yeah and i we got we got some

00:25:12.579 --> 00:25:15.240
interesting uh uh what did they elaborate on

00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:17.740
like i wasn't here for like the first half of

00:25:17.740 --> 00:25:19.319
it and then i came back in and i was like but

00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:20.700
they named good bands though they didn't name

00:25:21.259 --> 00:25:24.920
Were they just kind of like, oh, Misfits. Hold

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.440
on first. I know you love the Misfits. We're

00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.500
going to put a stop right there because I think

00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:32.740
everyone knows that the Misfits is the best punk

00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:35.819
band of all time. Misfits is punk for sure. Maybe

00:25:35.819 --> 00:25:37.539
they're not punk since they play Coachella now.

00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:41.720
I mean, that's another story there. But yeah,

00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.420
in the beginning when they started, that was

00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:48.259
super punk. Glenn Danzig made everything. You

00:25:48.259 --> 00:25:50.119
didn't like that Coachella performance, huh?

00:25:50.299 --> 00:25:53.240
The performance was terrible. It was lip -synced?

00:25:53.819 --> 00:25:56.119
Not that it was lip -synced, but they definitely

00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.319
were phoning it in. It was very phony. Yeah,

00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:02.299
the set list was garbage. They were off time.

00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.079
The audience didn't even look good. The audience

00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.240
was fucking terrible. But it was the original

00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.799
lineup, though, right? Well, it's Glenn and Jerry.

00:26:11.309 --> 00:26:13.390
Oh, wow. Yeah, because Doyle wasn't the original

00:26:13.390 --> 00:26:15.809
guitarist. He came in afterwards. And, of course,

00:26:15.930 --> 00:26:20.890
Dave Lombardo was from Slayer and A .C. Slade.

00:26:20.890 --> 00:26:22.710
I forgot where he's from. He's from like Marilyn

00:26:22.710 --> 00:26:24.549
Manson or some shit. I don't know. Wow, okay.

00:26:25.630 --> 00:26:27.529
But it was definitely a phone -in type of event.

00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:30.309
Yeah, I think when they first started doing the

00:26:30.309 --> 00:26:33.069
original Misfits reunions, like, they were, I

00:26:33.069 --> 00:26:34.549
mean, I flew to Chicago to go see it because

00:26:34.549 --> 00:26:37.269
I was like, I was in DLA one day and it was fucking

00:26:37.269 --> 00:26:39.930
sick. That felt like a true punk show. I will

00:26:39.930 --> 00:26:44.269
say that the show at the Forum was better than

00:26:44.269 --> 00:26:46.049
when I saw them in Chicago. I mean, Chicago,

00:26:46.230 --> 00:26:48.769
I was just like, it was euphoric because, you

00:26:48.769 --> 00:26:51.329
know, it's my favorite punk band. Yeah. And just

00:26:51.329 --> 00:26:53.730
the fact that Jerry and Glenn were able to...

00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:56.240
put their differences aside and play music games

00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.940
was fucking huge. But when the LA show happened,

00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.279
that shit was, the energy inside the forum was

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.980
fucking crazy. So many people were jumping over

00:27:04.980 --> 00:27:06.859
to get to the fucking front. And I was one of

00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:09.259
those people. Everybody was crazy that night.

00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.380
I was having so much. I mean, I was, I was in

00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:14.099
the fucking nosebleeds and we went, we were like

00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:17.039
15 deep. I was in pit and I was right close by

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.339
the, you know, the front right there. And I was

00:27:18.339 --> 00:27:20.579
like, Oh, we all got to just jump. Some people

00:27:20.579 --> 00:27:22.900
were getting kicked out. I think maybe before

00:27:22.900 --> 00:27:24.440
the last two songs, that's when they were like,

00:27:24.500 --> 00:27:26.920
fuck it, just go. Who cares? So a bunch of us

00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.160
just jumped over. It was so fucking funny. But

00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:30.700
yeah, that was punk right there. And now compare

00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:32.640
that to what they're doing now. It's just not

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.859
the same. They're just walking around, what do

00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:37.299
you want to hear? And then fucking... playing

00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:39.380
some random, and then people yelling shit and

00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:41.599
then they don't even play what, what, you know,

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.480
so. Okay. But you know what? Get the bag. They

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.000
deserve it. They fucking, you know. They've been

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.579
around for a while. Exactly. Exactly. So Coachella

00:27:50.579 --> 00:27:52.539
Misfits or Venganza de los Punks? What's more

00:27:52.539 --> 00:27:56.920
punk? Coachella Misfits. Nah, just playing. Venganza

00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.339
de los Punks. Come on now. Let's do it. And like,

00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.680
I was, I was so happy that we, we actually had

00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.539
a very good turnout for this movie. Like, I was

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:08.839
just, I was kind of wondering, I was just like,

00:28:08.900 --> 00:28:10.980
how are people going to respond to this? And

00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:13.460
it just like, it felt like kind of like the misfits

00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:16.319
and goons. This was like the screening for them

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.680
at the Frida. You know what I mean? They were

00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:18.960
just like, all right, cool. There's something

00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.099
that represents us. And then you can like, you

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:24.000
can hear the cheering and everything in the crowd

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.660
during the screening at the Frida cinema. And

00:28:26.660 --> 00:28:29.059
it's just kind of like. It started to die out

00:28:29.059 --> 00:28:31.819
when the sexual stuff started to die out. People

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:35.599
get weird about sex, especially violence and

00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:41.180
sex. How are you supposed to cheer on rape? I'm

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:45.819
not saying to cheer on rape, but even in general,

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.269
when sex happens in movies, people... Even when

00:28:49.269 --> 00:28:51.529
Tarzan's making love to this woman, they're just

00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:54.009
like, you just hear the crowd kind of go silent.

00:28:54.190 --> 00:28:56.390
You're just like, yeah, people are processing.

00:28:56.549 --> 00:28:59.650
I do regret not recording the audience reactions

00:28:59.650 --> 00:29:02.769
throughout the movie, though. I brought a TASCAM

00:29:02.769 --> 00:29:05.730
recorder with me with the idea of, let me just

00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:08.160
put record and let it. let it play and record

00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.200
the entire interaction because like you said

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.660
the crowd was fucking roaring they were clapping

00:29:13.660 --> 00:29:16.140
they were cheering they were gasping it was like

00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:20.619
the perfect the perfect exactly what you would

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:23.299
want as a reaction to this movie this was one

00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:25.099
of the more responsive screenings that we've

00:29:25.099 --> 00:29:26.599
had oh yeah that was like more of an audience

00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.299
that was what was that movie called that we were

00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.880
just talking about the one that Frida plays Spongebob?

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.980
No, the Stop Making Sense or what? Stop Making

00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:37.279
Sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was our Stop Making

00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.480
Sense. I was joking this morning with Hope. I

00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.779
was like, I wish we would have a Trash Mix version

00:29:42.779 --> 00:29:45.579
of that with like the, what's his name, Luis

00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:47.980
Miguel movie with the musical. I was like, there

00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:49.819
were just people dancing in the aisles and stuff

00:29:49.819 --> 00:29:52.420
like that. Well, all the Tias are going to show

00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:55.119
up for that. Yeah. For now, we had this one.

00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:57.099
This one did have an obvious reaction. People

00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.970
were laughing, clapping, screaming. It was cool.

00:30:01.029 --> 00:30:03.089
It was awesome. I was just like sitting there.

00:30:03.230 --> 00:30:08.009
I had a girl's legs on me right here. I was just

00:30:08.009 --> 00:30:09.950
chilling, you know. I was like, all right, I

00:30:09.950 --> 00:30:12.769
got a hyena next to me. The audience is having

00:30:12.769 --> 00:30:16.049
fun. The movie's playing is awesome. It was a

00:30:16.049 --> 00:30:18.670
great night. That sounds like a true 42nd Street

00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:21.130
experience. Yeah. It's just like for me, it's

00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.569
just like anytime you can hear like a verbal

00:30:23.569 --> 00:30:26.089
response from the crowd with these screenings

00:30:26.089 --> 00:30:28.049
and everything, whether it's like the ohs or

00:30:28.049 --> 00:30:31.140
the oohs. or like, you know, it gets silent or

00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:32.900
anything like that, you know that people are

00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:35.019
engaged with what's on screen. You know what

00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:36.700
I mean? Even the silent parts, you're just like,

00:30:36.779 --> 00:30:39.000
people are processing what's happening on the

00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.559
screen and trying to interpret what it is they

00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.779
want to respond to it with. And this was one

00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:47.720
of the movies that I thought with one of the

00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.299
screenings, the Trashmuck stuff at the Frida,

00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.759
it was just like, this was one of the more responsive

00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.099
type of screenings we've had compared to, I think

00:30:54.099 --> 00:30:56.140
the last time I felt like this was Infernal Rapist.

00:30:56.809 --> 00:31:01.029
Yeah, for the most part. Yeah. For the most part,

00:31:01.089 --> 00:31:03.829
yeah. Yeah. I think so, too. Yeah. Actually,

00:31:03.869 --> 00:31:08.769
yeah. For sure. Well, let's transition into the

00:31:08.769 --> 00:31:11.130
actual movie itself now that we've kind of cleared

00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:13.150
the air of what happened at the screening and

00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:17.630
stuff. You know, as Armando said, this was shot

00:31:17.630 --> 00:31:21.390
in 87 but released in 91. Which pissed off the

00:31:21.390 --> 00:31:23.569
producer because the censorship is what made

00:31:23.569 --> 00:31:27.470
it take so long. to release so well okay well

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:29.329
that let's go there then do you know if there's

00:31:29.329 --> 00:31:33.109
any deleted scenes that um i don't know if there

00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:35.269
was anything cut when it came out but i know

00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:36.769
that they had a different ending that was it

00:31:36.769 --> 00:31:39.589
but nothing really extravagant or anything just

00:31:39.589 --> 00:31:41.230
the ending was a little different when it came

00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:44.170
out which is just him walking after everything

00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:46.630
is over but that's it but nothing was cut it

00:31:46.630 --> 00:31:48.910
was just the movie was held they didn't release

00:31:48.910 --> 00:31:51.630
it oh okay they just really pissed them off because

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:53.609
you know He wants to fucking put the movie out.

00:31:53.609 --> 00:31:55.329
Yeah, you want to make your money back as quick

00:31:55.329 --> 00:31:56.609
as you can. Yeah, so it was that one, and then

00:31:56.609 --> 00:32:00.069
Infernal Rapist, and I forget what else. I don't

00:32:00.069 --> 00:32:02.009
know if it was his production, but other movies

00:32:02.009 --> 00:32:05.089
were being held from release around that time.

00:32:06.410 --> 00:32:08.490
And then that's when they finally got the release

00:32:08.490 --> 00:32:11.809
in 91. Oh, wow. Yeah, so it took them a while,

00:32:11.829 --> 00:32:15.730
and then, you know, it is what it is. I wonder

00:32:15.730 --> 00:32:17.930
what the crowds were thinking about this in 91

00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:20.930
when they go see this shit. I feel like it would

00:32:20.930 --> 00:32:23.509
have been the same now, probably. Like that night.

00:32:23.750 --> 00:32:25.230
Yeah, probably. They were probably like, what

00:32:25.230 --> 00:32:28.269
the fuck? And then laughing. Okay, so the movie

00:32:28.269 --> 00:32:30.630
stars Juan Valentin. As we said, he's a mariachi

00:32:30.630 --> 00:32:33.390
singer. One of the last greats still around.

00:32:34.730 --> 00:32:38.549
He had a very extensive acting career as well

00:32:38.549 --> 00:32:41.640
as a musical career. which I'm sure people would

00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.420
either know him from one or the other or maybe

00:32:44.420 --> 00:32:47.380
even both. Some of the tias I was talking to

00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:49.720
at the shows were like, yeah, we love his movies.

00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:50.900
I'm like, which one's your favorite? They're

00:32:50.900 --> 00:32:53.279
like, oh, El Vagon de la Muerte. And if you guys

00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.740
don't know what El Vagon de la Muerte is, that

00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:56.480
movie is fucking sad and awful and disturbing.

00:32:57.380 --> 00:33:00.980
It's about Juan Valentin. They're trying to cross

00:33:00.980 --> 00:33:02.920
over to the border, and the only way they're

00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.299
going to cross over is through one of those train

00:33:04.299 --> 00:33:07.160
things. And then, yeah, they're, like, suffering

00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.559
in there. It's a really brutal movie. But it's

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.740
really good. You know, Mexico and trauma, man.

00:33:11.819 --> 00:33:13.880
They go hand in hand. People love to see that.

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.940
Yeah, it's a very traumatic movie. Very violent.

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.420
Same producer as, you know, Punks, Ulysses P.

00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.640
Aguilera. Is he really? Oh, wow. Okay. And he

00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.940
sings in that one, of course. Has to sing. I

00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:27.200
think twice. I'm surprised we did not get one

00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.200
singing part. I was so disappointed, honestly.

00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:31.099
That one and Entrepidos Punks, he doesn't sing.

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.519
Well, that's one thing that's missing in this

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.319
movie is the constant replay of the song. Entrepidos

00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.279
Punks. Oh, yeah, the first movie. Honestly, after

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:46.470
a while, I got so annoyed. So I was kind of glad

00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:48.690
this one kind of like steps back. But yeah, I

00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:51.309
know what you mean. I mean, it's an iconic song.

00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:56.029
Yeah, it didn't need that or something. The cool

00:33:56.029 --> 00:33:58.829
thing about that is, so the band that plays that

00:33:58.829 --> 00:34:02.950
song is Three Souls In My Mind, which I guess

00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:05.450
eventually turned into, well, not turned into,

00:34:05.529 --> 00:34:08.449
but the singer, the original singer of Three

00:34:08.449 --> 00:34:11.440
Souls In My Mind. leaves that and starts one

00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.920
of the most legendary mexican bands at three

00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:18.199
but by the time they recorded this uh intrepidos

00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.679
punks he was not he wasn't part of the part of

00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.539
the band anymore uh it was the the drummer was

00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:27.480
singing that song yeah charlie uh yeah i got

00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.019
something like that yeah he's in the movie too

00:34:29.019 --> 00:34:30.460
he's one of the punks he's one of the punks yeah

00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:34.920
um which i'm sure you know fans of l3 would be

00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.219
like oh shit hell yeah so yeah that's a cool

00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:42.739
little thing there oh wow okay he's like obsessed

00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:46.280
with this movie he's like very proud of it and

00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.739
everything I mean I would it's a fun movie I

00:34:49.739 --> 00:34:51.860
mean pretty much a lot of people in the cast

00:34:51.860 --> 00:34:54.079
but he's the main one that's like a champion

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.239
of this movie now I wonder if our other lead

00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:03.340
Tarzan is proud of this movie yeah so he was

00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:05.440
hard to get to interview like a lot of people

00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.179
like when i tried to help in vinegar get the

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:09.179
interviews he was not responding to me they tried

00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:11.920
to rid of him nothing but then like maybe a year

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.460
after they were done he was like posting pictures

00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:17.420
of the movie and then it's like oh i wonder if

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:18.900
they got him for an interview after all but no

00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:21.420
nothing i don't know but he's aware of it and

00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:22.980
then yeah he's posting pictures of it on his

00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:25.780
but does want anything to be a part of it I don't

00:35:25.780 --> 00:35:27.239
know. That's the thing. He's probably just coming

00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.820
as currently he's like the, the, the head of

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:33.159
like the Mexican boxing and wrestling commission.

00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.559
Oh, wow. So he's, I mean, he's probably super,

00:35:35.659 --> 00:35:38.599
uh, entrenched in that and busy with that. Cause,

00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:40.840
uh, for those who don't know, Tarzan was played

00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.179
by a very famous luchador, uh, El Fantasma, which

00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:47.219
he looks like the phantom, which, you know, El

00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:50.380
Fantasma and, and, uh, the superhero. Exactly.

00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:51.860
Yeah. He looks like the superhero. That's funny.

00:35:51.860 --> 00:35:53.289
Cause your brother was like, he was played by

00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:56.610
a wrestler yeah he was like what and the cool

00:35:56.610 --> 00:36:01.190
thing for current wrestling fans his son is a

00:36:01.190 --> 00:36:06.190
current WWE wrestler yeah and he used to well

00:36:06.190 --> 00:36:08.949
he used to wrestle in Lucha Underground as King

00:36:08.949 --> 00:36:12.809
Cuerno and right now his name is Santos Escobar

00:36:12.809 --> 00:36:14.989
who was part of like the LWO and shit like that

00:36:14.989 --> 00:36:18.860
so I mean, that's kind of a cool tie -in there.

00:36:19.019 --> 00:36:21.239
I mean, there's tons of wrestling fans out there.

00:36:22.539 --> 00:36:25.880
But, yeah, he's, like, a super – I think he's,

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:28.900
like, the perfect person for this role because

00:36:28.900 --> 00:36:31.579
he's, like, super buff. He has these, like, obviously,

00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.340
like, wrestling -styled clothing and mask. He

00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:38.940
actually looks like the Shockmaster for those

00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:42.489
who know who Shockmaster is in WWE. I'll pull

00:36:42.489 --> 00:36:44.590
up a picture for you guys to see afterwards.

00:36:44.750 --> 00:36:48.110
You guys will bust a gut laughing at that shit.

00:36:48.150 --> 00:36:51.630
He looks exactly like him. Yeah. You'll see.

00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:53.630
Once we're done recording, I'll show you. You're

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:57.800
going to fucking die laughing. And then we have

00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.699
Olga Rios, who plays Jarocha, who plays a pretty

00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:02.780
big, important part of this movie. She's the

00:37:02.780 --> 00:37:05.059
one that breaks them out of the prison in the

00:37:05.059 --> 00:37:07.079
beginning, right? Yeah, her and the other girls.

00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.360
They helped her break the guys out. And then

00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.780
some of the girls were in the jail, too. They

00:37:11.780 --> 00:37:13.420
put a fucking bomb against the wall and just

00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:15.280
blow that shit up. They made it look so easy.

00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:16.599
Like, damn, is that how you get out of prison?

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.300
Or jail? I mean, in Mexico, probably. They got,

00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:22.579
like, a dobo building, too. Yeah, which is funny,

00:37:22.739 --> 00:37:24.340
because it was, like, so quick. It's like, damn,

00:37:24.380 --> 00:37:28.000
that was quick. It also has Bruno Rey in this

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.940
movie, who's another very prolific Mexican actor.

00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:33.980
He plays, what is it, a commissioner? Maybe just

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:37.619
like the sergeant or lieutenant or something.

00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.559
And then he gives this speech, remember, after

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.260
Marcos' family's killed? He's the one that gives

00:37:42.260 --> 00:37:44.460
that speech about society and all this other

00:37:44.460 --> 00:37:46.119
stuff. Well, that's one of the things I wanted

00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:47.800
to talk about because this movie kind of has

00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.179
a weird thing where it's like they paint the

00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:56.429
police to be like... These saints where they're

00:37:56.429 --> 00:37:58.170
damned if they do, damned if they don't type

00:37:58.170 --> 00:38:03.650
of shit. And that people need to respect the

00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:05.789
police more because their job is too hard for

00:38:05.789 --> 00:38:08.730
society to understand and shit. Which I thought

00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:11.369
was a little weird. Police sympathy in a movie

00:38:11.369 --> 00:38:15.570
that's about people killing each other. But I

00:38:15.570 --> 00:38:19.130
guess it plays in when our lead decides he wants

00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:22.630
to quit the police force and go on his own. Revenge.

00:38:23.739 --> 00:39:14.389
revenge seeking thrill. The response we've gotten

00:39:14.389 --> 00:39:17.110
from a lot of people in the audience for the

00:39:17.110 --> 00:39:19.710
movie when we screened it at the Frida was it

00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:24.170
reminded them Death Wish 3. That was another

00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:25.789
thing, yeah. A lot of people were saying Death

00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:28.050
Wish. I've never seen Death Wish 3. You've never

00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:31.150
seen Death Wish 3? What? Oh, man. Yeah, we've

00:39:31.150 --> 00:39:32.250
got to watch that. We'll watch it after. Yeah,

00:39:32.250 --> 00:39:39.389
we've got to watch that. I would say over 2 or

00:39:39.389 --> 00:39:42.860
1, I would rather watch Death... Death Wish 3

00:39:42.860 --> 00:39:47.039
over 1 and 2. Well, Death Wish 1 is kind of hard

00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.059
to swallow sometimes because it's so intense

00:39:49.059 --> 00:39:52.380
and it's so in your face. 2 is even worse. Yeah,

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:54.940
with like a 20 minute rape scene at the beginning.

00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.480
2 is super brutal. 3, I think, is when it becomes

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.179
part of the canon universe as far as what the

00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:04.860
canon is known for. It felt like a comic book.

00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:09.019
It plays exactly like this movie because it...

00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.099
There's no real through line to all the killings.

00:40:12.139 --> 00:40:14.380
It's just like this person dies, then this person

00:40:14.380 --> 00:40:16.619
dies, then this person dies, and then the next

00:40:16.619 --> 00:40:18.179
and next and next. And then here's Bronson being

00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:20.920
like, all right, let me kill these punks. Exactly.

00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.840
Let me just kind of senseless. It's almost like

00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.820
a tit -for -tat type of thing without real storyline

00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:30.960
within Death Wish 3. Death Wish 3, it felt very

00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.000
throwaway, but it's very entertaining. Yeah,

00:40:34.099 --> 00:40:36.760
no, absolutely. Death Wish 3 is highly entertaining.

00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:40.110
I know some people would say that part four and

00:40:40.110 --> 00:40:42.250
part five are better, which is crazy to me. Michael

00:40:42.250 --> 00:40:44.070
Park's one, though, from part five was pretty

00:40:44.070 --> 00:40:46.090
good, though. Part five is fun. I liked five

00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:47.929
more than four. But I think if you're watching

00:40:47.929 --> 00:40:50.630
Death Wish to be like, let's have fun with the

00:40:50.630 --> 00:40:53.030
homies, you're putting part three on. Yeah. And

00:40:53.030 --> 00:40:57.190
like you said, Venganza de los Punks is exactly

00:40:57.190 --> 00:40:59.130
that. If you want to have fun with your friends.

00:40:59.289 --> 00:41:02.250
Yeah. uh you're watching vegans out of those

00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:05.010
punks because it's just a systematic like kill

00:41:05.010 --> 00:41:07.170
after kill after kill after kill you've never

00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:12.380
seen part three man no Oh, man. It's like the

00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:15.360
white people version of Revenge of the Punx.

00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.860
Yeah. I mean, just look at the pictures I'm looking

00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:18.699
at right now. I'm like, yeah, they probably were

00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:21.079
inspired by this. There's a scene where it is

00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.059
full of fucking Charles Bronson. Not to go on

00:41:23.059 --> 00:41:25.840
a tangent here, but Charles Bronson gets RPGs

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.539
delivered to a P .O. box. And he just goes and

00:41:28.539 --> 00:41:30.500
picks them up and just starts fucking RPGing.

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.900
Yeah. One of the final scenes is with the RPG.

00:41:34.019 --> 00:41:36.380
And then he gets that elephant hunting gun. I

00:41:36.380 --> 00:41:38.989
forgot what it's called. He calls it Wiley. yeah

00:41:38.989 --> 00:41:41.469
he's uh wiling's here and he goes and picks it

00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:45.389
up at like a ups or something and uh yeah no

00:41:45.389 --> 00:41:48.050
i i just like i i noticed the response from a

00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:50.130
lot of the people in the audience we're saying

00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:52.650
that yeah it's death was trained it's it's kind

00:41:52.650 --> 00:41:55.090
of like that it's just like it's not very like

00:41:55.090 --> 00:41:59.889
a um well death wish 3 is kind of like um bronson

00:41:59.889 --> 00:42:02.409
has experienced stuff through one and two that

00:42:02.409 --> 00:42:05.449
were personal to him with family trauma people

00:42:05.449 --> 00:42:07.269
dying and everything like that and three just

00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:09.869
felt like he was this entity going through just

00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:12.550
fighting these punks and this is what it kind

00:42:12.550 --> 00:42:16.429
of felt with valentine during it just like just

00:42:16.429 --> 00:42:19.230
he's i've experienced all this stuff in some

00:42:19.230 --> 00:42:21.849
way in this movie revenge of the punks in the

00:42:21.849 --> 00:42:24.489
first like 20 minutes it's like him processing

00:42:24.489 --> 00:42:26.949
and just being like i'm just going through as

00:42:26.949 --> 00:42:28.929
this entity killing off all these punks and it

00:42:28.929 --> 00:42:32.300
just felt like within 20 minutes He was able

00:42:32.300 --> 00:42:35.559
to do what Charles Bronson experienced through

00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.880
Death Wish 1 and 2. Yeah. Well, I mean, you go

00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.780
through a speed run because he literally watches

00:42:40.780 --> 00:42:43.760
his wife, daughter, and all his friends get fucking

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.099
slaughtered by these fucking punks. They put

00:42:46.099 --> 00:42:47.960
them in a room, rape them, and then fucking blast

00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.619
the shit out of them. It's kind of crazy. I mean,

00:42:50.619 --> 00:42:53.260
it's like Squib City in there, man. They were

00:42:53.260 --> 00:42:56.360
getting shot to shit in that fucking scene. And

00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.659
that's what really sets him up to become the

00:42:58.659 --> 00:43:01.969
Bronson -type character. He doesn't give a fuck

00:43:01.969 --> 00:43:05.070
anymore. He's over -pretending that he has to

00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:06.630
go through the proper channels. He's just going

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.909
to fucking kill some punks. It felt fucking overdrive

00:43:09.909 --> 00:43:12.469
for me in this movie at the point where he started

00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:15.070
bringing out the flamethrower. Oh, yeah. And

00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:18.769
burning one of the punks. And I was just like,

00:43:18.829 --> 00:43:21.250
okay, cool. You see this in movies where people

00:43:21.250 --> 00:43:24.929
start burning dummies or whatever. But this guy

00:43:24.929 --> 00:43:26.949
was actually getting half of his body burned

00:43:26.949 --> 00:43:30.150
in the movie. And then you see it transition.

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:32.809
You see it cut, and it goes back to his face

00:43:32.809 --> 00:43:34.670
and his reaction. You're just like, all right,

00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:36.130
he's going to burn this guy the whole way through.

00:43:36.230 --> 00:43:38.250
It's about to be a doll or whatever. And then

00:43:38.250 --> 00:43:40.369
you go back, and it's still the same actor getting

00:43:40.369 --> 00:43:42.550
burned the entire way. You're just like, holy

00:43:42.550 --> 00:43:45.929
shit, okay. This was a risky -ass scene, and

00:43:45.929 --> 00:43:48.070
it fucking pays off. Because at that point, I

00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:50.469
felt like it brought a lot of the audience into

00:43:50.469 --> 00:43:52.570
that movie, being like, oh, this is cool. Well,

00:43:52.610 --> 00:43:54.469
I think that, to me, that's my favorite kill

00:43:54.469 --> 00:43:56.630
in the movie because, like you said, his facial

00:43:56.630 --> 00:43:58.949
expressions when he's burning them, you actually

00:43:58.949 --> 00:44:02.440
find. see whatever he was searching for he found

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:05.039
it in that moment yeah you know he's he's grinning

00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.739
he's smiling you can tell he's enjoying That

00:44:07.739 --> 00:44:11.000
he's finally able to bring vengeance for his

00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.019
dead wife and dead daughter. And he started to

00:44:15.019 --> 00:44:16.980
fall off at that point. Every other kill beyond

00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:18.900
that point was him. Well, he got sloppy after

00:44:18.900 --> 00:44:21.320
that part. Yeah, he was getting sloppy. And then

00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.719
the facial reactions were just kind of like psychotic

00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:27.420
at that point. He chops off one head off. And

00:44:27.420 --> 00:44:29.139
it's, of course, the guy with the fucking spikes

00:44:29.139 --> 00:44:31.320
with the fucking foil on him. The only punk that

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.619
had a real name. Everyone else was Manotes, Loco.

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:42.179
name was Beto Beto from East LA Boyle Heights

00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:45.840
that's right that's right Dead City Punk his

00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:47.940
death was kind of cool too that was probably

00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:54.880
the most like I guess like resemble to like an

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.360
80s like slasher where you know like a Friday

00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.380
the 13th kill where a guy gets his head chopped

00:44:59.380 --> 00:45:01.340
off he's just looking around and then whoosh

00:45:01.710 --> 00:45:03.730
and then you could see his liberty spikes like

00:45:03.730 --> 00:45:07.949
you know moving in the air and shit um yeah i

00:45:07.949 --> 00:45:12.389
mean essentially after um marco decides he's

00:45:12.389 --> 00:45:14.829
gonna quit the police force and go you know get

00:45:14.829 --> 00:45:19.429
vengeance um it's uh what was i saying i lost

00:45:19.429 --> 00:45:24.289
my train of thought um that's what That's when

00:45:24.289 --> 00:45:25.769
he decides he's just going to go after them,

00:45:25.789 --> 00:45:27.650
remember? Because he comes across them. He doesn't

00:45:27.650 --> 00:45:29.829
even look for them. He just comes across them,

00:45:29.829 --> 00:45:31.550
remember? Yeah, yeah. After everything that's

00:45:31.550 --> 00:45:33.010
happened, he's, like, already debating, like,

00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:35.190
I'm going to leave the force. So I'm going to

00:45:35.190 --> 00:45:36.690
take a break. I'm going to go on a vacation.

00:45:37.809 --> 00:45:39.510
And then that's when he sees the punks all of

00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:40.969
a sudden. He's like, oh, shit, they're the others.

00:45:40.989 --> 00:45:42.030
Oh, yeah, they're all, like, driving through

00:45:42.030 --> 00:45:44.090
the town. Yeah, they just happen to be driving

00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:45.829
by where he was at. And he's like, all right,

00:45:45.849 --> 00:45:47.210
you know what? I'm just going to go after them.

00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:50.489
Fuck it. That's when he goes, and he does what

00:45:50.489 --> 00:45:53.820
he does. just systematically uh kills one after

00:45:53.820 --> 00:45:55.920
the other fuck the system i'm just gonna kill

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.079
these guys he pulls up to their lair and uh there's

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.199
like a this is this is how you know that the

00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:03.119
the writers and directors and whoever involved

00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.639
producers too didn't really know what punk is

00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.739
because you go when they get to their lair there's

00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:10.079
like a swastika painted on the thing you know

00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.360
nazi punks fuck those fools yeah and then right

00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.340
next to it there's like the star of david which

00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:17.219
that was like a hilarious contrast you have a

00:46:17.219 --> 00:46:19.739
you know uh and then you have one dude i guess

00:46:19.739 --> 00:46:23.300
this is their their their callback to the, you

00:46:23.300 --> 00:46:25.159
know, quote unquote origins of punk. There's

00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:26.880
a guy in there with like the British flag on

00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.599
his jacket. You got to have the British flag.

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.619
It's just I just feel like they were just throwing

00:46:33.619 --> 00:46:36.099
anything that they they've heard that punk is

00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:39.059
attached to like a Nazi punk or whatever. They

00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:40.780
just do it there. It's kind of like you saw the

00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:43.260
sex pistols with their stuff or like, you know,

00:46:43.260 --> 00:46:45.960
with Sid Vicious wearing the swastika. All right.

00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:51.320
This is what punk is. Exactly. Yeah, that's a,

00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.659
I don't know. I think, again, that kind of ties

00:46:55.659 --> 00:46:58.340
into them not really knowing what punk actually

00:46:58.340 --> 00:47:01.420
is. Yeah, exactly. And why these punks are kind

00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.059
of, you know, destructive or whatnot. And the

00:47:04.059 --> 00:47:06.039
lair, they happen to be Satan. That's where they

00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.880
worship Satan, too. Which gets even more weird.

00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:11.260
It's like, okay, so they're punks. And they're

00:47:11.260 --> 00:47:13.639
Satanists. Yeah, and they're Satanists. Like,

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.599
okay. Damn. Yeah, they sacrifice. They don't

00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.019
sacrifice. They butcher a sheep. and they start

00:47:20.019 --> 00:47:23.659
praying to Satan, and Tarzan's wearing a weird

00:47:23.659 --> 00:47:25.780
dunce cap. I don't know what the fuck that was.

00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:30.719
Almost like KKK. Yeah, right. That's what I noticed

00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.960
in the response with the Frida. That's where

00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.039
a lot of the response came from in that scene

00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.570
with the sheep being killed and gutted. in front

00:47:41.570 --> 00:47:43.389
of everybody and the satanic stuff it was just

00:47:43.389 --> 00:47:45.889
like you can kind of feel the tension in the

00:47:45.889 --> 00:47:47.750
room of people trying to understand it but it's

00:47:47.750 --> 00:47:50.869
like oh is it okay to watch this or like like

00:47:50.869 --> 00:47:53.610
I said they're just it's supposed to be offensive

00:47:53.610 --> 00:47:55.269
yeah it's supposed to be yeah it's supposed to

00:47:55.269 --> 00:47:56.809
shock you that's the whole point it's an exploitation

00:47:56.809 --> 00:48:01.429
movie yeah and then so well let me ask you guys

00:48:01.429 --> 00:48:04.090
you know like as we've been saying for the past

00:48:04.090 --> 00:48:07.409
40 minutes this is just like a systematic kill

00:48:07.409 --> 00:48:10.949
after kill after kill after kill so I forgot.

00:48:10.989 --> 00:48:12.469
Let me see. I have them listed here. How many

00:48:12.469 --> 00:48:20.989
kills are there? There's one, two, three, four,

00:48:21.329 --> 00:48:26.329
five, six, seven. And I guess, well, seven that

00:48:26.329 --> 00:48:27.949
they show on screen. And then, of course, all

00:48:27.949 --> 00:48:30.250
the other henchmen that died in the shootout.

00:48:30.329 --> 00:48:33.710
So out of the seven main kills in this movie,

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:35.849
I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked the

00:48:35.849 --> 00:48:38.170
people at the Frida. Which ones were your favorite

00:48:38.170 --> 00:48:42.329
kills? For me was the one where he you know,

00:48:42.389 --> 00:48:44.630
he puts the guy and then that metal bar goes

00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:49.309
through his mouth. No, that was a He tried to

00:48:49.309 --> 00:48:52.309
Start like a rift in the group and I will try

00:48:52.309 --> 00:48:54.570
to kill Tarzan. Yeah, he was like trying to yeah

00:48:54.570 --> 00:49:10.179
Yeah La coca y la mota siempre la administra.

00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.300
A nosotros nos deja puras bachas. A nosotros

00:49:14.300 --> 00:49:17.340
nos tiene chupando cervezas y él se toma el buen

00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:23.300
vino. Muerto el Tarzán, tú serías el jefe, mi

00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:31.679
rey. ¿Serías capaz de matarlo, Hal? Sí, Medusa.

00:49:32.099 --> 00:49:35.719
Te aseguro que toda la banda me seguiría. Pero

00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:49.050
si te le enfrentas al Tarzán... And the way they

00:49:49.050 --> 00:49:51.010
did it too, they make it look real. They actually

00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:52.909
did a pretty good job making it look as real

00:49:52.909 --> 00:49:55.130
as possible. That was a good response from the

00:49:55.130 --> 00:49:57.369
crowd too. Yeah, I already had a feeling. I was

00:49:57.369 --> 00:49:58.570
like, oh, people are going to get fucking crazy

00:49:58.570 --> 00:50:01.010
with this one. And yeah, that one was good. And

00:50:01.010 --> 00:50:02.710
then obviously the one where he chops the guy's

00:50:02.710 --> 00:50:05.409
head off and you see the spikes. You know, it's

00:50:05.409 --> 00:50:06.949
like, okay, they knew what they were doing. See,

00:50:07.010 --> 00:50:08.949
this is Damian Acosta right here. He knew what

00:50:08.949 --> 00:50:10.829
he was fucking doing. And what about you, Mikey?

00:50:10.909 --> 00:50:14.050
I have a phobia of snakes. So, like, anytime

00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:17.809
I see snakes on screen, whether it's, like, even

00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:20.030
when, like, Instagram reels or TikTok reels,

00:50:20.030 --> 00:50:22.090
when I see snakes or people handling snakes and

00:50:22.090 --> 00:50:24.869
stuff, like, that is the most uneasiest, I feel.

00:50:25.750 --> 00:50:28.449
visually when i see snakes so of course it's

00:50:28.449 --> 00:50:30.150
going to be the scene where the dude is like

00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:33.590
basically in a well and being uh snakes poured

00:50:33.590 --> 00:50:36.210
on him but like i just wish that scene though

00:50:36.210 --> 00:50:39.250
was a little bit more like gruesome gruesome

00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:41.530
like you can see the snakes like biting him or

00:50:41.530 --> 00:50:44.429
like or even if it's like a fake prosthetic and

00:50:44.429 --> 00:50:47.070
like a rattlesnake like biting into his skin

00:50:47.070 --> 00:50:49.409
and stuff but like the imagery for me enough

00:50:49.409 --> 00:50:51.710
on that scene it was just like okay that that

00:50:51.710 --> 00:50:53.949
that made me feel uneasy but that's because of

00:50:53.949 --> 00:50:58.099
my own uh uh uh feelings about reptiles and snakes

00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:01.539
and stuff like that like yeah i am i am terrified

00:51:01.539 --> 00:51:05.420
of snakes and jump scares and no no and sharks

00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:08.320
and sharks and sharks like the two things that

00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.460
you you will never come in contact yeah it was

00:51:10.460 --> 00:51:12.920
just like yeah i don't think i've ever seen you

00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.420
at a beach or in the hiking with snakes and it

00:51:16.420 --> 00:51:20.119
was just like yeah no the snakes and sharks i

00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.139
don't know what it is i can't look like i have

00:51:22.139 --> 00:51:24.380
a hard time even now today like looking at pictures

00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:26.219
of like great white sharks with their mouths

00:51:26.219 --> 00:51:29.300
on pictures like it just like it makes me so

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:32.090
uneasy and it's just like Anyways, I don't want

00:51:32.090 --> 00:51:34.949
to get into it, but, like, yeah. Snakes and sharks.

00:51:35.289 --> 00:51:37.110
I just have a hard time with them. All right.

00:51:37.170 --> 00:52:24.000
So snake killing scared you. Wow. Yeah. And there

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.880
wasn't even that many snakes in the movie. There

00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:27.719
was only three snakes or something. It's just

00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.019
like you just see him dump the snakes into the

00:52:30.019 --> 00:52:32.659
well, but it's just like the imagery and my own

00:52:32.659 --> 00:52:36.420
fears of like, oh, man, they bite him on the

00:52:36.420 --> 00:52:39.559
ankle. They bite him on the fucking calf or whatever

00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.139
because you don't actually see it in the movie.

00:52:41.179 --> 00:52:44.099
That made me uneasy still. I'm just like wondering

00:52:44.099 --> 00:52:46.940
where they bit him because he dies from the poisoning,

00:52:47.019 --> 00:52:50.000
obviously. And he's handcuffed, too. He has like

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.719
no chance of getting out. No, not at all. I thought

00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.179
the, as we said, the fire scene when he's burning

00:52:56.179 --> 00:53:00.000
the guy alive, that, between that and when he

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.059
dumps the acid on the girl. Those two were, because

00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:05.880
after, like we said, after the fire kill, he

00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.420
didn't give a fuck anymore. So he was just like,

00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:08.940
because he was, like we said, he got sloppy.

00:53:09.260 --> 00:53:11.320
He was getting shot at. He got shot in the shoulder

00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:13.199
and was just like, all right, fuck, I'm just

00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:14.840
going to dump this fucking acid on this chick's

00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:20.469
face. I thought those two were the most. gruesome

00:53:20.469 --> 00:53:22.849
on -screen kills, I would say. Yeah, for sure.

00:53:23.130 --> 00:53:25.170
Yeah, the acid one especially. Just the reaction

00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:27.550
and then the actress's face. It's so genuine

00:53:27.550 --> 00:53:30.210
looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the makeup

00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:32.789
effect too. It didn't even look really too fake

00:53:32.789 --> 00:53:34.849
or anything. It looked kind of like... No, it

00:53:34.849 --> 00:53:38.170
looked good. You can actually see it bubbling

00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:40.510
and turning colors and stuff. And again, like

00:53:40.510 --> 00:53:42.409
I said, this is the director. He's like, we're

00:53:42.409 --> 00:53:44.780
going to make this as real as we can. We're not

00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:46.440
going to just, oh, you know, make it look like,

00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:47.900
you know, she got it. It's like, no, we're going

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:49.440
to make it look like she is getting acid on her

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:54.460
face. And then all of that led to, spoiler alert,

00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.340
Marco kills Tarzan. Tarzan does die. Honestly,

00:53:59.460 --> 00:54:01.360
that's probably my favorite one. Yeah, huh? The

00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.559
way that's set up and everything, he's like,

00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.280
kill me, kill me. And he's like, all right, I'm

00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.079
going to do it, you know. And then that's when

00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.019
you see him. He's hanging him upside down. He's

00:54:10.019 --> 00:54:12.920
got his big -ass fucking knife, and he plucks

00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.309
his eyes out. My only problem with that was that.

00:54:16.699 --> 00:54:18.539
They made Tarzan look like such a little bitch.

00:54:18.739 --> 00:54:20.179
Like, he should have put up more of a fight,

00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.659
man. Especially when he's coming. He's, like,

00:54:22.699 --> 00:54:24.860
he's approaching him. You would think, like,

00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.420
at the end of what he thinks is going to be his

00:54:27.420 --> 00:54:30.599
life, like, grab him or try to submit him in

00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.900
some kind of way. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

00:54:32.900 --> 00:54:34.380
I guess what it was, he probably just didn't

00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:35.739
even care at that point. He was probably, whatever,

00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.780
I'm done. He's done. He's coked out. Hungover.

00:54:40.420 --> 00:54:42.920
You know how these punks are, apparently. They're

00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.039
intoxicated. But, yeah. Yeah, he just fucking

00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.559
kills them. I was like, oh. And then the reaction

00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:49.280
with Juan Valentin, he's just like, you know,

00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.219
laughing. I was like, oh, this is great. And

00:54:51.219 --> 00:54:54.079
that scene, that fool, he looked just like my

00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.019
Theo Victor. Like, I mean, identical to that.

00:54:58.079 --> 00:54:59.579
I can't watch that movie without thinking of

00:54:59.579 --> 00:55:01.679
my Theo. Oh, shit. It looks fucking identical

00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.920
to that. For the mustache, the hair, the dark

00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.840
skin. Yeah, Juan Valentin looks like a lot of...

00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:10.929
mexican uncles and dad like if you guys ever

00:55:10.929 --> 00:55:12.170
see him in person you're gonna be like oh yeah

00:55:12.170 --> 00:55:14.010
this guy is like chill like this is a guy that

00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:15.389
you probably would see next door or something

00:55:15.389 --> 00:55:17.590
didn't i see him at the carne asada at my tia's

00:55:17.590 --> 00:55:23.190
house last week um but then it leads to our you

00:55:23.190 --> 00:55:26.670
know the official ending of the movie and i don't

00:55:26.670 --> 00:55:28.929
know i mean uh spoiler alert you know if you

00:55:28.929 --> 00:55:30.949
haven't watched it go watch it before you listen

00:55:30.949 --> 00:55:33.030
to this last part if you don't want a spoiler

00:55:33.030 --> 00:55:35.889
but What the fuck was that? Was it all just a

00:55:35.889 --> 00:56:13.170
dream? It could have been a premonition of what's

00:56:13.170 --> 00:56:16.590
to come. I don't know. That's exactly like the

00:56:16.590 --> 00:56:20.369
response from the crowd at the Frida. It was

00:56:20.369 --> 00:56:24.269
just like, oh. Like they were let down a little

00:56:24.269 --> 00:56:27.489
bit. We were sitting next to our friends in the

00:56:27.489 --> 00:56:29.369
theater and they were just like, what? you know

00:56:29.369 --> 00:56:32.050
just like because it like for a lot of people

00:56:32.050 --> 00:56:36.010
that is like a cop -out yeah where it's a dream

00:56:36.010 --> 00:56:39.429
or whatever and it's just kind of like i thought

00:56:39.429 --> 00:56:42.619
the same thing too if this was like This was

00:56:42.619 --> 00:56:45.119
a dream of something that was actually about

00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.400
to happen. A premonition. But I think it's a

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:50.099
premonition because remember the wife's like,

00:56:50.179 --> 00:56:53.440
oh, we got to get ready for the girl's birthday

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.400
party. Okay, so it's probably just a premonition.

00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:59.239
Which is weird enough because I had something

00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.559
similar this week where I got in an argument

00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.320
with my management at my day job. And literally

00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.000
last night, I woke up this morning. Hope woke

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.139
me up. She was like, you were yelling at someone

00:57:10.139 --> 00:57:13.380
in your sleep. Damn. And it was just like, I've

00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:14.659
been frustrated with the management. Fuck you,

00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.840
motherfucker. I want that raise, bitch. I've

00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.219
been frustrated with the management of my work,

00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.539
and it translated into my dreams. But you don't

00:57:24.539 --> 00:57:26.619
remember having a dream of it? No. I woke up.

00:57:26.980 --> 00:57:29.880
She woke me up at 4 or 5 in the morning, and

00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.380
she was like, you were yelling at people at your

00:57:33.380 --> 00:57:35.300
dream. And I guess I told her, I was like, yeah,

00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.670
I was yelling at someone for my work. and i just

00:57:37.670 --> 00:57:40.369
had a meeting on wednesday with the management

00:57:40.369 --> 00:57:42.570
of my work that i was frustrated about and it

00:57:42.570 --> 00:57:43.969
was just kind of like one of those things is

00:57:43.969 --> 00:57:46.750
like are you dreaming of something because you

00:57:46.750 --> 00:57:49.269
know how the outcome is going to be or you're

00:57:49.269 --> 00:57:52.710
anticipating the outcome to be like maybe he

00:57:52.710 --> 00:57:54.590
knew something already that was going to happen

00:57:54.590 --> 00:57:56.949
he was already living in that danger just waiting

00:57:56.949 --> 00:57:59.849
for waiting for that waiting for that day to

00:57:59.849 --> 00:58:04.230
happen And he is waking up to that day. You know

00:58:04.230 --> 00:58:09.909
what I mean? And anyways. So see, it's the same

00:58:09.909 --> 00:58:11.730
thing. It's a premonition of what's to come.

00:58:12.650 --> 00:58:14.329
So I don't think it was just a dream. I think

00:58:14.329 --> 00:58:15.730
it was a premonition of what's to come. Because

00:58:15.730 --> 00:58:18.610
I remember it cuts to Juan Valentin walking away

00:58:18.610 --> 00:58:21.730
from killing Tarzan on the credits. So I'm like,

00:58:21.789 --> 00:58:23.070
okay, I think that's what they're trying to tie

00:58:23.070 --> 00:58:25.730
in. It's like, okay, it was all a dream, but

00:58:25.730 --> 00:58:27.329
it was something that actually did happen to

00:58:27.329 --> 00:58:29.489
him. So I think that's kind of what it is. The

00:58:29.489 --> 00:58:33.960
other ending. It just cuts to him killing Tarzan,

00:58:34.059 --> 00:58:36.380
and then he just walks away, and that's the credits

00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.980
right there. So it's a little confusing, too,

00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:40.739
when there's those two endings, but they chose

00:58:40.739 --> 00:58:44.480
the other one as the main one, which is the dream.

00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.539
I guess they wanted it to be more dramatic. They

00:58:46.539 --> 00:58:48.159
wanted it to be an arthouse movie. Or something,

00:58:48.300 --> 00:58:51.639
I don't know. But either way, the ending's similar.

00:58:51.699 --> 00:58:54.139
It's like he still walks away from killing Tarzan.

00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.559
All right, so the consensus, it actually did

00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.840
happen then. It wasn't just a dream. Not exactly,

00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.340
but yeah, it did happen. Even though it was presented

00:59:01.340 --> 00:59:04.679
as a dream, it still is something that is just

00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.960
like you're expecting to happen. I know some

00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:07.980
people are going to be like, oh, that was just

00:59:07.980 --> 00:59:10.000
a dream, but it's like, oh, maybe, but I don't

00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:11.159
know. I think it's a premonition. It looks more

00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:12.500
like a premonition. I mean, the first time I

00:59:12.500 --> 00:59:14.320
saw it, I was like, man, because it's just like

00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.219
you said, I always... Cop out. It's a cop out,

00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.320
yeah. And the crowd was, at the feet of the crowd,

00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.820
was kind of like, what? Which I love. Anytime

00:59:22.820 --> 00:59:25.500
you hear a response from a crowd when you're

00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:27.599
screening it. That means they're engaged. Yeah.

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:29.880
They're engaged. They have been invested the

00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.440
entire time. And they're upset about it. Like,

00:59:32.460 --> 00:59:34.579
if they weren't invested, they wouldn't be upset.

00:59:34.739 --> 00:59:37.420
They're upset about it. And it's just like, okay,

00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.320
cool. Even if it's a negative response, that

00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:40.960
means that you were watching this entire time

00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:46.420
and you were engaged with it. Yeah. And, you

00:59:46.420 --> 00:59:50.750
know, with that, it's all over, man. This is

00:59:50.750 --> 00:59:54.449
a fun one. It really is. This was one of the

00:59:54.449 --> 00:59:56.590
more fun ones. I think even, what was the last

00:59:56.590 --> 00:59:58.329
time we screened there? Hellstrap? Hellstrap,

00:59:58.449 --> 01:00:00.710
yeah. I thought this was more fun than Hellstrap.

01:00:01.010 --> 01:00:04.230
Oh, 1 ,000%. Hellstrap is fun, but this one has

01:00:04.230 --> 01:00:07.929
a lot more going for sure. Oh, yeah. And it was

01:00:07.929 --> 01:00:10.829
nice. Thank you, Trevor, Dylan, the Frida Cinema

01:00:10.829 --> 01:00:14.550
for allowing this to happen, man. Like I said,

01:00:14.570 --> 01:00:17.190
support the Frida Cinema. They're the Orange

01:00:17.190 --> 01:00:19.190
County's only non -profit art house theater.

01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.480
They show stuff like this, punks. Like I said,

01:00:23.500 --> 01:00:24.599
there's always something there for everybody.

01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.059
Spongebob. Spongebob. If you're like, hey, if

01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:27.840
you're not a punk, if you want to see Spongebob,

01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.219
go see Spongebob. If you want to go dance, you

01:00:29.219 --> 01:00:32.519
can go dance. Go dance. You can go throw spoons

01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.599
at the screens. Yeah, or see a Kurosawa film,

01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:37.179
whatever. Like I said, that's the thing about

01:00:37.179 --> 01:00:39.199
the Frida I like is that they have such a big

01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.239
selection of, you know, they curate, you know,

01:00:41.260 --> 01:00:43.239
whatever, you know, what the people want. I mean,

01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:47.210
for fuck's sake, they let Rendezvous. do a premiere

01:00:47.210 --> 01:00:49.630
of an international art house movie of someone

01:00:49.630 --> 01:00:51.909
that I guarantee no one in that crowd has heard

01:00:51.909 --> 01:00:55.550
of. How was that screening? It was fun. The turnout

01:00:55.550 --> 01:00:57.769
wasn't as great, but... They played Whirlpool

01:00:57.769 --> 01:00:59.369
afterwards. Yeah, we played Whirlpool afterwards.

01:01:00.489 --> 01:01:02.949
But what other theater is going to let that...

01:01:02.949 --> 01:01:04.570
I mean, you know, the director, she was able

01:01:04.570 --> 01:01:07.269
to fly out and to engage with people there, which

01:01:07.269 --> 01:01:10.250
is always fun. So, I mean, I don't know any other

01:01:10.250 --> 01:01:13.170
theater that would just take a gamble on an unknown

01:01:13.170 --> 01:01:16.400
director coming in, doing a premiere. I mean,

01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:18.639
the Frida has been so good to us around the world.

01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.500
Literally a weekend of double feature Mexican

01:01:22.500 --> 01:01:27.820
films, grants for making sure it happens. You

01:01:27.820 --> 01:01:30.539
don't see anything else like this happening anywhere

01:01:30.539 --> 01:01:33.239
else, even in L .A. County. And then this summer,

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:34.639
we're going to have something cool with the Frida.

01:01:34.739 --> 01:01:36.900
And like I said, I chose the Frida, too, because,

01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:38.900
again, I felt the Frida deserved this more than

01:01:38.900 --> 01:01:40.880
anywhere else. Are we going to save this for

01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.730
later to unveil? okay yeah but we'll just say

01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:47.929
yeah the freedom that's it so yeah so yeah so

01:01:47.929 --> 01:01:49.730
i guess they'll find out about it eventually

01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:52.429
so so like i said yeah we're gonna do something

01:01:52.429 --> 01:01:54.769
cool at the frida again like i said because again

01:01:54.769 --> 01:01:56.409
they're the one theater that really fucks with

01:01:56.409 --> 01:01:59.889
us you know they're really cool with us and they

01:01:59.889 --> 01:02:02.670
know what they're doing the one theater i trust

01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:05.820
All right, so now the final question. I mean,

01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:07.199
I trust other theaters, but yeah, you know what

01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.659
I mean. That's Trash Mix home base for us. That's

01:02:11.659 --> 01:02:13.320
always been the home base for sure. Yeah, exactly.

01:02:13.940 --> 01:02:16.340
All right, so the final question for the three

01:02:16.340 --> 01:02:18.639
of us, and we'll go in order starting with Mikey

01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.159
Oviedo to our far left here. I want to know your

01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.500
top four punk bands or punk movies. Oh, Jesus

01:02:25.500 --> 01:02:32.050
Christ, really? Yeah, we're doing it. Okay. I

01:02:32.050 --> 01:02:36.329
used to play in a punk band from 18 to 21, 22.

01:02:36.570 --> 01:02:39.190
I played in a lot of ska punk bands when I was

01:02:39.190 --> 01:02:44.369
younger. One of my favorite bands, Leftover Crack,

01:02:44.469 --> 01:02:48.349
I used to play with. When I stopped being so

01:02:48.349 --> 01:02:53.110
angry, it was stuff like Descendants. Descendants

01:02:53.110 --> 01:02:57.329
was always something I could put on. Adolescents

01:02:57.329 --> 01:02:59.690
and Circle Jerks were in that kind of category

01:02:59.690 --> 01:03:03.150
for me also. i i feel like a lot of my stuff

01:03:03.150 --> 01:03:05.409
kind of leaned into like ska punk type stuff

01:03:05.409 --> 01:03:09.670
so um so like i guess like ska punk uh there

01:03:09.670 --> 01:03:12.929
was this band from i believe new york city um

01:03:12.929 --> 01:03:16.250
called memphis scoffilies that is still one of

01:03:16.250 --> 01:03:18.510
my favorite ska punk albums never even heard

01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:21.889
of it fantastic fantastic album from uh late

01:03:21.889 --> 01:03:24.750
90s from new york city a bunch of jazz artists

01:03:24.750 --> 01:03:29.050
and and ska punk um people got together and memphis

01:03:29.050 --> 01:03:31.829
scoffleys the first album was god bless satan

01:03:31.829 --> 01:03:35.130
nice fantastic fucking album from i think from

01:03:35.130 --> 01:03:38.329
like 96 or 97 that i still will go back and listen

01:03:38.329 --> 01:03:41.409
to to this day um so yeah most of my punk stuff

01:03:41.409 --> 01:03:46.269
has has leaned into ska a skull skull deserves

01:03:46.269 --> 01:03:48.050
it i love skull man i went through a skull phase

01:03:48.050 --> 01:03:53.309
myself so yeah and yeah um subhumans uh citizen

01:03:53.309 --> 01:03:56.869
fish all those bands like that that I've played

01:03:56.869 --> 01:04:01.070
with before. Um, I wasn't really like big into

01:04:01.070 --> 01:04:03.309
like, you know, fear and all that stuff. That's

01:04:03.309 --> 01:04:04.909
great and everything. But like, these are the

01:04:04.909 --> 01:04:07.630
bands that I was like, I listened to and I was

01:04:07.630 --> 01:04:10.710
influenced with, with even like a plain base

01:04:10.710 --> 01:04:16.289
and a bunch of these bands. Armando. Um, so let

01:04:16.289 --> 01:04:19.030
me just put it this way. I have never been punk

01:04:19.030 --> 01:04:21.070
quote unquote, but I've always listened to a

01:04:21.070 --> 01:04:23.750
lot of punk. even since high school when i think

01:04:23.750 --> 01:04:25.369
back like damn i was actually more punk than

01:04:25.369 --> 01:04:27.210
these fucking kids that i used to hang out with

01:04:27.210 --> 01:04:29.230
oh yeah for sure because i still listen to a

01:04:29.230 --> 01:04:30.989
lot of these bands that they would show me and

01:04:30.989 --> 01:04:33.650
you know put me on these motherfuckers now they're

01:04:33.650 --> 01:04:36.710
all with their fucking like they're trolo goss

01:04:36.710 --> 01:04:39.070
now or what it's not not even that they're just

01:04:39.070 --> 01:04:41.889
a bunch of fools with the dodger hat With the

01:04:41.889 --> 01:04:44.570
fucking Levi's. They're not even Levi's. They're

01:04:44.570 --> 01:04:48.190
the Wrangler fucking jorts. Oh, no way. They're

01:04:48.190 --> 01:04:50.710
fucking like, they're all dads. They're all wearing

01:04:50.710 --> 01:04:53.869
Birkenstocks and shit. Yeah, they all work at

01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:56.030
the fucking construction companies or some shit.

01:04:56.130 --> 01:04:58.869
Or they have their own. Some of them did go on

01:04:58.869 --> 01:05:01.179
to do good stuff. But most of the time they were

01:05:01.179 --> 01:05:03.219
just a bunch of fucking posers straight up. I

01:05:03.219 --> 01:05:05.420
was probably the only one that was not punk,

01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.400
but punk, you know what I mean? Like even now,

01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.519
like I'm still, I feel like I'm probably more

01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.039
punk than these guys ever were in their whole

01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.960
phase. Cause they're all a bunch of little sellouts

01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:18.340
and just, and they don't listen to it. They're

01:05:18.340 --> 01:05:19.980
like, Oh, I don't really like, I never really

01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:22.179
liked the misfits. And I'm like, well, okay,

01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.320
but you got the fucking misfits tattoo on you.

01:05:25.130 --> 01:05:26.929
I know plenty of people with misfits tattoos.

01:05:27.010 --> 01:05:28.349
That's what I'm saying. That probably could only

01:05:28.349 --> 01:05:30.150
make me like two songs. It was always just a

01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:31.929
style for a lot of these people that I knew growing

01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:34.130
up, you know. And I was always the one idiot

01:05:34.130 --> 01:05:36.050
that was like, you know, like actually into it,

01:05:36.110 --> 01:05:39.329
you know. But yeah, so bands. I mean, I think

01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:41.670
misfits were one of the main ones. Damn, Mikey.

01:05:41.869 --> 01:05:45.989
Yeah, this one Mikey's dying over here. Cholo

01:05:45.989 --> 01:05:54.639
God. We got to leave the Cholo God part in. Cholo

01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:59.940
Goss. Cholo Goss. I don't know any Cholo Goss.

01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.780
I've seen them, but I don't know any of them.

01:06:05.019 --> 01:06:07.159
I'm sorry, guys. No, you're good. You're good.

01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:13.219
Yeah, we'll figure it out. So the Misfits Armando,

01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:21.550
number one. So Mikey died. Cholo Goss. i didn't

01:06:21.550 --> 01:06:23.469
even know that was a thing until recently oh

01:06:23.469 --> 01:06:25.250
yeah it's been a thing dude yeah it's been a

01:06:25.250 --> 01:06:29.889
thing yeah but uh yeah so like i said misfits

01:06:29.889 --> 01:06:31.590
were probably the first ones i remember being

01:06:31.590 --> 01:06:34.690
exposed to with punk and actually really liking

01:06:34.690 --> 01:06:37.030
like i said i was like wow and this is already

01:06:37.030 --> 01:06:38.809
because i was already into horror movies so a

01:06:38.809 --> 01:06:40.469
lot of the punk guys would be like oh listen

01:06:40.469 --> 01:06:41.730
to the misfits you would like them they'd sing

01:06:41.730 --> 01:06:43.150
about horror movies and stuff i was like all

01:06:43.150 --> 01:06:45.329
right all right and yeah sure enough i was like

01:06:45.329 --> 01:06:47.130
okay yeah they're fucking cool you know and then

01:06:47.130 --> 01:06:49.579
i started reading about the history I was like,

01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.579
wow, Glenn Denzig's fucking really inspirational.

01:06:51.659 --> 01:06:53.880
Like, this motherfucker rose up and everything.

01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.460
He did everything himself. He built this whole

01:06:56.460 --> 01:06:59.500
fucking empire with Jerry and everything. So

01:06:59.500 --> 01:07:01.579
Misfits would for sure be, like, number one.

01:07:02.500 --> 01:07:06.320
And then, like, Germs. Germs, I would say, is

01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:08.760
kind of inspirational for me, too, just because

01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:10.519
it was all, you know, do -it -yourself. And they

01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.059
were kind of just, like. They were always so

01:07:13.059 --> 01:07:15.960
rough. They would always get kicked out of shows

01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.940
or whatever. Darby Crash was just a mess. Yeah,

01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.800
they were definitely the heavies of the L .A.

01:07:21.860 --> 01:07:24.300
scene for sure. Even though Darby was such a

01:07:24.300 --> 01:07:27.940
mess and he ended up killing himself so young,

01:07:28.139 --> 01:07:30.699
it's like he's so inspirational today. And so

01:07:30.699 --> 01:07:32.920
many people are so fascinated by his lore and

01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.639
everything. So yeah, Germs for sure. And like

01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:37.780
their one album is super fucking catchy. I play

01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:40.000
that often. It's a classic. It's a classic album.

01:07:40.059 --> 01:07:42.059
Yeah. Oh yeah. You put one at what we do is secret

01:07:42.059 --> 01:07:43.440
and you're just like, hell yeah, let's get this

01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:44.940
going. You know, let's get the fucking day going.

01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:49.380
So Germs, Misfits. And then the last one, Crass,

01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:52.059
you know, I got into Crass much later on though

01:07:52.059 --> 01:07:55.159
in my life. I was probably like 25, 26 when I

01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:57.119
actually finally got around to listening to Crass.

01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.480
I was like, oh shit, these guys are fucking great.

01:08:00.170 --> 01:08:02.389
And then reading about them and seeing some of

01:08:02.389 --> 01:08:04.949
their interviews online, I was like, wow, okay,

01:08:05.030 --> 01:08:07.469
these guys are actually, like, the granddaddies

01:08:07.469 --> 01:08:10.449
of punk, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really started

01:08:10.449 --> 01:08:11.929
a fucking movement. You know, these guys are

01:08:11.929 --> 01:08:14.110
awesome. They're not just a whole, you know,

01:08:14.130 --> 01:08:15.489
they're not just, like, a little symbol, like

01:08:15.489 --> 01:08:16.869
the Misfits School. You know, like, these guys

01:08:16.869 --> 01:08:18.909
actually are, you know, they're inspirational.

01:08:19.210 --> 01:08:22.180
You know, their music is cool. And it makes sense,

01:08:22.220 --> 01:08:24.079
you know, like of society, what was going on

01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.420
then and everything. Yeah. They actually lived

01:08:26.420 --> 01:08:28.859
by the values that they preached in their music

01:08:28.859 --> 01:08:30.899
with, like, squatting and everything like that.

01:08:30.939 --> 01:08:32.960
They actually, like, lived that life compared

01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:34.680
to a lot of these other artists. And they would

01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.600
even, like, tell people, like, yeah, bootleg

01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:38.880
our music if you want. We don't give a fuck,

01:08:38.899 --> 01:08:40.319
you know. We want you to listen to our music.

01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.479
So, yeah. You know, so Crass, Misfits, and Germs.

01:08:43.699 --> 01:08:45.479
For sure. Top three. Yeah, that's a good top

01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:51.039
three. How about you, Joey? Well. So I, you know,

01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.699
although I grew up listening to like the skater

01:08:53.699 --> 01:08:59.460
punk of the 90s, but by the time I hit 11, my

01:08:59.460 --> 01:09:01.079
life changed and went straight into hardcore.

01:09:02.779 --> 01:09:06.600
So I didn't get into punk until later. But I

01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:10.539
think my top. So what I'm going to I'll do my

01:09:10.539 --> 01:09:14.020
top four L .A. punk hardcore bands just, you

01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:17.079
know, to keep it local. What got you into hardcore?

01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.720
I heard, uh, Hapery satisfaction is the death

01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:22.659
of desire for the first time. And it blew my

01:09:22.659 --> 01:09:24.739
fucking mind. And I said, this is the best music

01:09:24.739 --> 01:09:27.319
I've ever heard in my life. Um, that was on a

01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.600
victory comp in nine. And then I think that comp

01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.319
came out in 97 or 98, something like that. Um,

01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.899
I didn't hear it until, um, early 2000 and, uh,

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.909
yeah, it changed my fucking life. And, um, So

01:09:40.909 --> 01:09:45.229
we'll do top four L .A. punk hardcore bands for

01:09:45.229 --> 01:09:51.670
me would be The Stains, The Weirdos, Germs, and

01:09:51.670 --> 01:09:55.189
Black Flag. Weirdos are great. Yeah, Weirdos

01:09:55.189 --> 01:09:58.970
are shit, yeah. My all -time favorite punk band,

01:09:59.250 --> 01:10:01.630
Misfits, of course. I mean, I had heard Misfits

01:10:01.630 --> 01:10:05.970
in the 90s when I was in elementary school. Misfits

01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:08.010
would be my number one punk band of all time.

01:10:08.970 --> 01:10:12.829
As far as LA top four, yeah, it would be Stains,

01:10:12.869 --> 01:10:17.170
Weirdos, Germs, and Black Flag for sure. I just

01:10:17.170 --> 01:10:19.229
think that that first Black Flag Nervous Breakdown

01:10:19.229 --> 01:10:26.569
is like a seminal LA sound. That really formed,

01:10:26.869 --> 01:10:30.930
for my ears at least, really formed what the

01:10:30.930 --> 01:10:33.989
LA punk hardcore scene was and is supposed to

01:10:33.989 --> 01:10:37.520
be. And even now... sets a standard to what it

01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:39.520
should be yeah yeah good call yeah that what

01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:44.720
spray paint uh um nervous breakdown wait nervous

01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.819
breakdown the the the seven inch yeah that has

01:10:47.819 --> 01:10:51.800
fixed me wasted nervous breakdown yeah um i just

01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:54.039
think it's like blissed i think it's on like

01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:56.000
seven minutes or so not even seven minutes like

01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:02.939
six minutes uh just crude fast um it's it's Top

01:11:02.939 --> 01:11:07.880
10, 45 release of all time, in my opinion. And

01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.939
yeah, there it is. I'm sure people are going

01:11:10.939 --> 01:11:13.239
to hate all of our picks, but whatever. They're

01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.119
going to be like fucking posers. That's not a

01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:18.659
punk band. I know they're like the most obvious

01:11:18.659 --> 01:11:20.739
names, but like, no, these are... No, they're

01:11:20.739 --> 01:11:22.359
seminal. Yeah, they're seminal. They're fucking

01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.439
inspired the other ones later on, you know? Yeah.

01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.279
Misfits inspired so many bands, especially with

01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.659
the Do It Yourself, you know? spirit and everything

01:11:30.659 --> 01:11:33.060
well you think of the misfits uh sorry to go

01:11:33.060 --> 01:11:35.380
on another tangent but it's like you you look

01:11:35.380 --> 01:11:37.960
at the misfits and what they accomplished um

01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:43.180
in such a short span and then they were pretty

01:11:43.180 --> 01:11:46.239
much non you know non -existent for how many

01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:49.960
years you know until jerry only um got the band

01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:52.859
back together with doyle um and completely changed

01:11:52.859 --> 01:11:57.359
the sound but um you know like everyone formed

01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.579
uh their band based off of what the misfits were

01:12:00.579 --> 01:12:02.800
doing afterwards you know after they had already

01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:05.340
broken up and went on their own and danzig was

01:12:05.340 --> 01:12:08.180
doing sam hang and then uh you know eventually

01:12:08.180 --> 01:12:11.300
his own solo danzig project and then the thing

01:12:11.300 --> 01:12:13.319
i liked about the misfits is how the designs

01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.479
was just all made by you know dan you know glenn

01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.600
you know glenn made all the designs he appropriated

01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.039
a lot of the images especially the crimson you

01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:22.220
know skull you know the crimson ghost skull yeah

01:12:22.220 --> 01:12:24.659
yeah but look where it is now he made that fucking

01:12:24.659 --> 01:12:26.619
thing the symbol of the band and it's everywhere

01:12:26.619 --> 01:12:28.840
now Oh, yeah, the iconography of the Misfits

01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:32.579
is the shit. And I will go on record in saying

01:12:32.579 --> 01:12:36.319
that the Misfits, they are a punk band, but they

01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:40.939
have one absolute classic hardcore record to

01:12:40.939 --> 01:12:46.079
me. Everything else that they did was punk. But

01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:47.960
even then, see, that's the thing. They went with

01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:50.420
a different sound after. That's what makes them

01:12:50.420 --> 01:12:52.060
so inspiring, too. They went with a different

01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:54.539
sound that he knew was picking up. yeah at the

01:12:54.539 --> 01:12:57.340
time so yeah for sure but yeah we pick good ones

01:12:57.340 --> 01:12:59.699
i think if you call those posers fuck you guys

01:12:59.699 --> 01:13:04.399
all right well you know we're talking in circles

01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.880
now so let's let's wrap it up uh we are gonna

01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.039
put in here after the frida show we did have

01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.100
a couple people come and talk to us and we did

01:13:11.100 --> 01:13:13.560
you know a little interview um i'm not really

01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.000
a good uh journalist and interviewer so my questions

01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.529
probably sucked and uh uh but you know i'll get

01:13:20.529 --> 01:13:22.949
better at it eventually so we're just gonna play

01:13:22.949 --> 01:13:26.090
the the top like you know three or four responses

01:13:26.090 --> 01:13:30.439
that we got um as far as, like, in -depth answers

01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.119
from the audience and stuff. Thank you guys for,

01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:33.939
you know, coming back out and, you know, having

01:13:33.939 --> 01:13:35.819
to talk with Joey. It was pretty awesome. Yeah,

01:13:35.899 --> 01:13:37.539
and, you know, like I said, I'll get better at

01:13:37.539 --> 01:13:39.020
it, and hopefully we can do this a little bit

01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:41.680
more often and get the crowd involved with the

01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.819
show and, you know, kind of, you know, get people's

01:13:44.819 --> 01:13:46.659
thoughts on what they think about Mexican movies

01:13:46.659 --> 01:13:48.939
and stuff. I was stoked to see people actually

01:13:48.939 --> 01:13:51.670
hang around after the show and, like... ready

01:13:51.670 --> 01:13:53.449
to talk about the movie oh yeah they were eager

01:13:53.449 --> 01:13:55.250
the first guy was like wait like answering he

01:13:55.250 --> 01:13:58.789
was like ready to talk um so you know thanks

01:13:58.789 --> 01:14:02.510
to all you guys um and uh yeah we'll play it

01:14:02.510 --> 01:14:05.710
right now uh we armando does have something very

01:14:05.710 --> 01:14:09.289
special planned coming up uh that we don't want

01:14:09.289 --> 01:14:11.750
to you know talk about yet or he doesn't want

01:14:11.750 --> 01:14:13.609
to talk about yet i don't think so i mean whenever

01:14:13.609 --> 01:14:14.970
this episode i mean they'll probably already

01:14:14.970 --> 01:14:17.050
know but even then it's like yeah you know we

01:14:17.050 --> 01:14:19.189
hope to see you guys in the summer and hope you

01:14:19.189 --> 01:14:21.600
guys bring out everybody you know yeah bring

01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.000
out the family bring out your tia your deal bring

01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:26.659
out some of your punk friends if you have punk

01:14:26.659 --> 01:14:29.119
friends you know because i mean you know everybody

01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.140
everybody is welcome for these next screenings

01:14:31.140 --> 01:14:32.960
that are coming you know It's not for the punks

01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:34.100
anymore. Unless you're a hater, then we'll kick

01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:35.579
you out. It's for everybody. Yeah, these screens

01:14:35.579 --> 01:14:36.819
are going to be for everybody. That's all I'll

01:14:36.819 --> 01:14:38.840
say. I'm stoked about these. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.619
Yeah. As we always do, there'll be a little bit

01:14:42.619 --> 01:14:45.659
of a clip after these little interviews here

01:14:45.659 --> 01:14:47.600
to give you guys a little hint of what's coming

01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:52.119
up. The next month episode, it'll drop in June.

01:14:52.979 --> 01:14:57.279
And yeah, we'll see you guys soon. We'll see

01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:58.819
you guys at the Frito probably hopefully too.

01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:01.520
Thank you guys for having me. Thanks for coming.

01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.220
Thanks for a good convo. We're at the new house

01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:07.979
by the new headquarters. Top secret Batcave over

01:15:07.979 --> 01:15:13.260
here. It's Chino, California. It's just Chino,

01:15:13.260 --> 01:15:19.270
guys. Bye, guys. Have a good one. Peace. All

01:15:19.270 --> 01:15:22.409
right, here we go. We are live inside of the

01:15:22.409 --> 01:15:26.310
Frida Cinema. We just finished watching Venganza

01:15:26.310 --> 01:15:28.829
de los Punks. I'm standing here with? Miguel

01:15:28.829 --> 01:15:32.789
Nunez. Miguel Nunez. Now, I got to say, this

01:15:32.789 --> 01:15:35.510
is one of the craziest movies to experience inside

01:15:35.510 --> 01:15:38.289
of a theater, right? Yeah, yeah, I loved it.

01:15:38.430 --> 01:15:42.590
Yeah, it's fantastic. So if you can just describe

01:15:42.590 --> 01:15:44.470
this movie for people that are listening that

01:15:44.470 --> 01:15:46.069
haven't seen this movie, how would you describe

01:15:46.069 --> 01:15:53.100
this movie? Well, it's so funny because we begin

01:15:53.100 --> 01:15:59.800
following this band of punks. Actually, they

01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:04.939
call them punks, but it's more of a gang. They're

01:16:04.939 --> 01:16:08.640
dressed very exotic, like 80s type, very violent,

01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:17.300
sexual and drug -driven. But what I love about

01:16:17.300 --> 01:16:21.539
the film is that, I mean, they kill the family

01:16:21.539 --> 01:16:27.439
of this cop. But then we follow the revenge of

01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:32.659
the cop. And then the vigilante becomes like

01:16:32.659 --> 01:16:36.859
a psychopath or more of a serial killer for the

01:16:36.859 --> 01:16:41.510
punk gang. So that was amazing for me. A little

01:16:41.510 --> 01:16:46.130
bit of justice replaced by revenge, right? There's

01:16:46.130 --> 01:16:49.130
quite a few kills in this movie, right? So just

01:16:49.130 --> 01:16:50.890
from watching this right now, what would you

01:16:50.890 --> 01:16:52.649
say would be your favorite kill of the movie?

01:16:53.029 --> 01:16:59.250
I think my favorite kill was the guy that was

01:16:59.250 --> 01:17:03.170
killed by the stick going through his mouth.

01:17:03.430 --> 01:17:05.699
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Oja, the guy who

01:17:05.699 --> 01:17:10.640
tried to overthrow Tarzan himself, right? Okay,

01:17:10.739 --> 01:17:13.560
yeah, so what do you think? How does this movie

01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:15.680
correlate to punk, do you think? Do you think

01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:17.560
it's a punk movie or is it not a punk movie?

01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:19.000
You know, it's funny because it's not really

01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.880
a punk movie. However, looking at the credits,

01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:26.880
the music was composed and played by Three Souls

01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:31.060
in My Mind, which is El Tri. Very good call -out,

01:17:31.100 --> 01:17:34.079
yeah, very good call -out. Okay, so I guess we'll

01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:35.180
just kind of wrap it. We got a couple people

01:17:35.180 --> 01:17:39.800
here. So just final question, just personal taste

01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:42.100
here. Give me your top four favorite punk rock

01:17:42.100 --> 01:17:47.619
bands. Punk rock. Or punk rock movies or anything

01:17:47.619 --> 01:17:49.520
related to punk. Anything related to punk. Let

01:17:49.520 --> 01:18:00.460
me see. Sex Pistols, The Clash, and then. probably

01:18:00.460 --> 01:18:06.119
this movie uh the range of the punks and uh uh

01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:10.680
there is this uh record from actually it's a

01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:14.359
ska band but it's his record is called punk rock

01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.960
from chelsea that's funny i like it good call

01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.720
out man well we appreciate you coming out and

01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:22.880
hope you enjoyed the the movie you grabbed yourself

01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.439
a gift already perfect yeah thank you man appreciate

01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:36.229
it right here we go here we go uh who am i standing

01:18:36.229 --> 01:18:40.970
with here uh mitch luna mitch luna now uh give

01:18:40.970 --> 01:18:42.869
me your initial thoughts on it have you seen

01:18:42.869 --> 01:18:45.630
this movie before oh no first time i'd ever seen

01:18:45.630 --> 01:18:50.069
it um i love how many different outfits tarzan

01:18:50.069 --> 01:18:52.770
had throughout like he must have had he was stunting

01:18:52.770 --> 01:18:55.510
in like five different outfits i wish there was

01:18:55.510 --> 01:18:57.949
a scene you just see his wardrobe of just different

01:18:57.949 --> 01:19:02.399
uh costumes he'd put on and uh Another thing

01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.680
I caught is I love that scene in the first act

01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:09.479
with the dudes holding up a store and robbing

01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.020
it. That had absolutely nothing to do with the

01:19:12.020 --> 01:19:14.840
rest of the plot, like whatsoever. And the place

01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:17.779
was a fucking video store rental. It's not even

01:19:17.779 --> 01:19:19.960
like a high value place to rob. They're just

01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:24.840
shooting up a video club. Yeah, I got lost in

01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:27.659
my train of thought. Hey, that's perfect. I'm

01:19:27.659 --> 01:19:29.000
glad you called that out because I noticed that

01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:30.800
tonight too. Hey, man, that's a fucking video

01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.500
store there. They got like 200 pistols or something.

01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:39.359
It's a video store, dude. And also glad that

01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:41.720
you called out Tarzan and all his outfits too.

01:19:41.819 --> 01:19:43.539
I don't know if you're familiar with who he is

01:19:43.539 --> 01:19:46.279
as a wrestler or his lineage and how he kind

01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:48.439
of relates to Lucha. Are you familiar with that

01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.159
at all? No, no, but I'm definitely going to go

01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:53.229
down a rabbit hole. because the dude is pretty

01:19:53.229 --> 01:19:56.770
badass. Yeah, he really is badass. So with that

01:19:56.770 --> 01:19:58.510
in mind, I'm going to ask you the same question.

01:19:58.789 --> 01:20:02.109
Is your first time seeing it? Out of all the

01:20:02.109 --> 01:20:04.409
kills in the movie, call out your favorite kill.

01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:07.039
Oh, man, there's so many good kills, and he was

01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.220
so unconventional. I love that he used both snakes

01:20:10.220 --> 01:20:14.220
and spiders. It's like, damn, where did he get

01:20:14.220 --> 01:20:16.640
those? He just goes back to his hideout in between

01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.279
eating sardine sandwiches, and he just has a

01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.779
stash of spiders. But I think favorite kill overall,

01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.960
probably the acid to the face. That was good.

01:20:26.060 --> 01:20:28.439
I didn't see that one coming. I'll go with that.

01:20:28.539 --> 01:20:30.079
Yeah, I think that's my favorite kill as well.

01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.600
Okay, so with that in mind, do we have any more

01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.460
things to give? How many things do we have left?

01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:43.619
We have two left? Okay. And he's taking the Blu

01:20:43.619 --> 01:20:45.920
-ray, folks. Appreciate you coming out. Hope

01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:54.300
you enjoyed the night. All right. And who are

01:20:54.300 --> 01:20:57.760
we standing here with? With Alan. Alan. So have

01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.760
you seen this movie before? No, I have not. Have

01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:04.300
you seen the original movie, the part one? No,

01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:06.159
I have not. Okay, so you're fresh to this one.

01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:11.560
Give me your initial reactions. Was this over

01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.520
the top? Was it not enough? What was your favorite

01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:17.520
thing about this? This was amazing. This got

01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.239
me like a throwback when I used to go with my

01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:23.560
uncle to the video store and they had the curtains

01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.359
and he'd just go inside the curtain and I'd be

01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:28.819
like, what the hell is he doing? And we'd come

01:21:28.819 --> 01:21:31.239
back, he'd get the popcorn and... Next thing

01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:33.380
you know, he just popped it in the VHS and it's

01:21:33.380 --> 01:21:35.640
at the DVD, and we just see some, like, crazy

01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:39.720
-ass, like, kills. It just threw me back to my

01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:42.640
uncle. It was amazing. Back to, like, my culture

01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.000
and shit. Yeah, I think that's definitely, yeah.

01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.100
What does he got on right there? Oh, for the

01:21:49.100 --> 01:21:53.960
listeners, he's got a Buki shirt on. We did an

01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:56.560
episode on the Bukis a couple episodes ago, so,

01:21:56.619 --> 01:21:59.760
I mean. Great shirt, great shirt. Same question

01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:02.680
for you. Out of all the kills in the movie, which

01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.859
one was your favorite? It would be the pull through

01:22:05.859 --> 01:22:07.699
the mouth. It just reminded me of Deanna Jones.

01:22:08.060 --> 01:22:12.840
It was crazy. He deserved it, though. He was

01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.930
a piece of shit. He deserved it. snitch ass traitor

01:22:15.930 --> 01:22:20.989
hey snitches get stitches um okay so let's let's

01:22:20.989 --> 01:22:23.310
run us off here what are your top four favorite

01:22:23.310 --> 01:22:26.109
punk rock bands if you listen to punk or you

01:22:26.109 --> 01:22:27.689
listen to punk all right what are your top four

01:22:27.689 --> 01:22:30.350
favorite punk rock bands in espanol would be

01:22:30.350 --> 01:22:34.390
escrobuto that's my top first uh it'd be i mean

01:22:34.390 --> 01:22:38.550
el tri is rock i mean classic rock but uh It'd

01:22:38.550 --> 01:22:41.789
be Escobuto, Section Hate, Shout Out to L .A.,

01:22:41.789 --> 01:22:44.310
and Dead City Punks. I mean, Dead City, they

01:22:44.310 --> 01:22:47.770
be doing a lot of movement in L .A. right now.

01:22:48.430 --> 01:22:50.409
Good call out. Calling out for the L .A. culture.

01:22:50.670 --> 01:22:53.189
One more question. Oh, yeah, let's go. Favorite

01:22:53.189 --> 01:22:57.470
rookie song? I have a lot, but it'd have to be

01:22:57.470 --> 01:23:02.930
for Marc Antonio Solis. It'd be like, ah, shit.

01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:06.239
You got me right there. My mind just scrambled

01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:08.199
right there, but it's from Marcansonio Solis.

01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:10.319
Right now, I can't really think about it, but

01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:14.779
yeah. My grandma used to sing to me, sing to

01:23:14.779 --> 01:23:19.840
it all the time, but I forgot. Ah, fuck. My bad,

01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:23.100
wey. Se me olvide, wey. Se le fue a lona, se

01:23:23.100 --> 01:23:28.260
le fue a lona. It's all good, it's all good.

01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:29.779
Well, I hope you appreciated the show tonight.

01:23:29.899 --> 01:23:34.760
Thank you for coming. I've been following Trash

01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:38.140
Max since he started. Trash Max has been putting

01:23:38.140 --> 01:23:40.840
on for the city and putting a lot of archives.

01:23:41.100 --> 01:23:44.520
Like I said, I've been watching a lot of movies

01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:47.260
with my uncle. We used to go to the video store,

01:23:47.340 --> 01:23:49.260
and it just throws me back. This brings me a

01:23:49.260 --> 01:23:53.279
lot. There it is. He's getting the 38 Especial

01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:57.810
VHS. Yeah, I do. Of course. Yeah, I do. I collect

01:23:57.810 --> 01:24:01.930
VHSes. Perfect. Well, once again, thanks for

01:24:01.930 --> 01:24:03.390
coming out. Appreciate it, man. Hope you had

01:24:03.390 --> 01:24:10.090
a great time. No, I did. Gracias. All right,

01:24:10.170 --> 01:24:12.770
and who are we standing here with? I'm John Bauer.

01:24:13.010 --> 01:24:15.829
John Bauer. Now, are you familiar with this film?

01:24:15.869 --> 01:24:18.069
Have you seen this film before? No, I'd only

01:24:18.069 --> 01:24:21.430
seen Intrepidos Punks before this. Good, so you're

01:24:21.430 --> 01:24:23.970
one of the four people who had actually seen

01:24:23.970 --> 01:24:28.369
a Punks movie before. Yeah, yeah, when I saw

01:24:28.369 --> 01:24:31.609
Venganza was coming out, I had bought the Blu

01:24:31.609 --> 01:24:33.630
-ray from Vinegar Syndrome, and so I'm like,

01:24:33.670 --> 01:24:35.930
I better watch the first one so I'm not totally

01:24:35.930 --> 01:24:39.090
confused by the plot. And, okay, so were you

01:24:39.090 --> 01:24:40.850
confused? Because some people would say that

01:24:40.850 --> 01:24:43.409
this movie is completely separate from the first

01:24:43.409 --> 01:24:46.420
movie. I mean, it picks up right where the first

01:24:46.420 --> 01:24:48.840
one lets off. They all get the surviving ones

01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.319
get put in jail. And then as with the first one,

01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:53.619
they get busted out by the female leader of the

01:24:53.619 --> 01:24:56.220
gang. And then it's just back to normal. We're

01:24:56.220 --> 01:24:59.359
right. We're raiding liquor stores and video

01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:02.520
stores and people's homes just for no reason

01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:04.960
at all. And then we're camping out of the exact

01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:08.220
same place that the first movie ended at. It's

01:25:08.220 --> 01:25:11.079
yeah. It was nice to know that there was some

01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:15.039
continuity there. I agree, I agree. Okay, so

01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:16.979
since you have seen both now, which one would

01:25:16.979 --> 01:25:19.739
you say you prefer more, the original Entrepidos

01:25:19.739 --> 01:25:23.010
Punks or Venganza de los Punks? I think I prefer

01:25:23.010 --> 01:25:25.710
Intrepidos punks. That one, it's mostly about

01:25:25.710 --> 01:25:28.229
the gang. They're pulling off hijinks. They're

01:25:28.229 --> 01:25:30.829
playing their theme song constantly. They're

01:25:30.829 --> 01:25:32.329
rolling out on the road hooting and hollering.

01:25:32.529 --> 01:25:35.369
They're making drug deals. Like, they're on top

01:25:35.369 --> 01:25:37.590
of the world. Here, it's like they bust out of

01:25:37.590 --> 01:25:40.090
jail. They're right at the top. But then for

01:25:40.090 --> 01:25:41.430
the rest of the movie, they're just kind of sitting

01:25:41.430 --> 01:25:43.729
around getting killed. Like, every time one of

01:25:43.729 --> 01:25:45.250
them gets killed, they're like, okay, I got a

01:25:45.250 --> 01:25:47.970
plan. Towards the very end, he's like, I got

01:25:47.970 --> 01:25:50.670
a plan. We'll send each of us out one by one

01:25:50.670 --> 01:25:55.539
to get killed. then that's my plan. It kind of

01:25:55.539 --> 01:25:57.899
falls in line with Death Wish 3. Have you seen

01:25:57.899 --> 01:26:00.920
that? Yeah, a lot like that. And I mean, especially

01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:04.439
towards the end, the cop character starts to

01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:07.100
seem more like Jason Voorhees than just like

01:26:07.100 --> 01:26:10.039
a vengeful cop. He's really getting twisted with

01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:12.399
some of that stuff. Okay, so with that in mind,

01:26:12.539 --> 01:26:15.140
let's get a call out. What's your favorite kill

01:26:15.140 --> 01:26:18.380
in the movie? It's got to be Beto. He's just

01:26:18.380 --> 01:26:20.079
walking around with a flashlight, and then out

01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:22.390
of nowhere, just whoop. Just lops his head right

01:26:22.390 --> 01:26:25.130
off. He's not knocking him out and handcuffing

01:26:25.130 --> 01:26:26.869
him and dragging him back to his villa to torture

01:26:26.869 --> 01:26:28.869
him. He's just like, boom, you're dead right

01:26:28.869 --> 01:26:30.829
there. And then he, like, throws his head at

01:26:30.829 --> 01:26:33.109
somebody else and then just takes off. He's like,

01:26:33.170 --> 01:26:36.529
I'm not babysitting this one. This guy is just

01:26:36.529 --> 01:26:38.789
dead. And you can even see his liberty spikes

01:26:38.789 --> 01:26:41.250
kind of flopping around, too, when his head starts

01:26:41.250 --> 01:26:44.869
flying off there. Well, thanks for coming out,

01:26:44.949 --> 01:26:47.470
man. I hope you enjoyed the second one as well

01:26:47.470 --> 01:26:49.489
as much as you do the first one. I don't know

01:26:49.489 --> 01:26:51.859
if we have anything left. Armando to give out.

01:26:53.460 --> 01:26:56.619
You give me so much entertainment over the years.

01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.800
Anytime you want to do these shows, I will be

01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:01.739
there. Trash Mex for life. And you heard it there.

01:27:01.819 --> 01:27:03.939
Trash Mex for life, man. Thanks for coming out,

01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:12.420
man. Thank you. They all ran away. All right,

01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:17.000
here we go. My name is Hope. And Hope, have you

01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.420
seen this movie before? I haven't. This is my

01:27:19.420 --> 01:27:21.960
first time. And have you seen the original? I

01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:24.420
haven't. So seeing this one, I'm excited to see

01:27:24.420 --> 01:27:26.920
the first one now. Yeah, I think the first one

01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.920
is definitely a must watch. Just give us a little

01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.319
rundown. If you can describe this movie in a

01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:35.869
sentence or two. For people that haven't seen

01:27:35.869 --> 01:27:37.590
it, how would you describe it? I'll give you

01:27:37.590 --> 01:27:39.789
a long -winded one. It reminds me a little bit

01:27:39.789 --> 01:27:42.609
of Death Wish 3, but also Darktown Strutters.

01:27:42.630 --> 01:27:45.310
It has kind of like that biker aesthetic meets

01:27:45.310 --> 01:27:48.270
like 80s, you know, punk, Mexican punk aesthetic.

01:27:48.329 --> 01:27:51.460
So I really enjoyed that. That's a good call

01:27:51.460 --> 01:27:53.859
-out. A lot of people say Mad Max, but I don't

01:27:53.859 --> 01:27:55.920
really see Mad Max. This is not a post -apocalyptic

01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.060
movie. So Darktown Shredders is a really good

01:27:59.060 --> 01:28:02.079
call -out. Now, I do know you like punk music,

01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:04.979
so let's hear it. Give me your letterbox for

01:28:04.979 --> 01:28:08.420
punk movies or bands. I can't give you that.

01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.699
Honestly, I really can't. But what I will say

01:28:10.699 --> 01:28:12.079
about this for anybody that's listening that

01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:14.680
hasn't seen this, I feel like it has everything

01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.500
you could possibly need. You've got, like, swastika

01:28:17.500 --> 01:28:21.390
booty. It's got busty women. death by like deadly

01:28:21.390 --> 01:28:26.250
vipers poisonous tarantulas uh acid to the face

01:28:26.250 --> 01:28:29.109
um i don't know it's pretty much got everything

01:28:29.109 --> 01:28:30.869
you need in it and i really loved that it was

01:28:30.869 --> 01:28:34.229
very much like punks versus one cop on on this

01:28:34.229 --> 01:28:38.010
tirade and revenge seeking adventure to get justice

01:28:38.010 --> 01:28:40.979
for his family so yeah i'm kind of glad that

01:28:40.979 --> 01:28:42.739
the cop kind of was like man fuck being a cop

01:28:42.739 --> 01:28:44.720
i just want to kill these motherfuckers right

01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.399
yeah for sure and i feel like a lot of people

01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:48.840
like a lot of the other deaths but the death

01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:50.819
by fire torture was awesome because you could

01:28:50.819 --> 01:28:52.579
really see the rage in his eyes and he was really

01:28:52.579 --> 01:28:54.920
enjoying it at that point so yeah that was fun

01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.300
yeah i think the the death by fire is probably

01:28:57.300 --> 01:29:00.859
my favorite kill so i think yeah this is the

01:29:00.859 --> 01:29:02.880
shit right there well thank you guys for showing

01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:05.060
this at the frida and i hope you guys do more

01:29:05.060 --> 01:29:07.439
stuff like this Thanks for coming out, Hope,

01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:09.840
and I guess we're wrapping it up here.