WEBVTT 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.040 hello everybody welcome to the trash mix podcast 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.280 where we talk about mexican genre films and crazy 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:10.039 mexican films in general but today me and joey 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.339 are leaving mexico and you're probably thinking 00:00:12.339 --> 00:00:15.080 why the what the fuck is going on we turned into 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:18.440 passport bros yeah we went into yeah we got into 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:20.260 that trend of passport bros but we're not after 00:00:20.260 --> 00:00:24.100 girls actually well maybe i am but we'll say 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:26.440 that for another day i'm just joking but now 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.250 but today we're going to talk about two films 00:00:29.250 --> 00:00:31.390 from colombia and these are films i actually 00:00:31.390 --> 00:00:34.590 never heard of before until recently when people 00:00:34.590 --> 00:00:36.049 were hitting me up they were like sending me 00:00:36.049 --> 00:00:39.009 this link to a a boutique label i never even 00:00:39.009 --> 00:00:40.890 heard of either they're like hey have you seen 00:00:40.890 --> 00:00:42.350 these before like they're asking me you know 00:00:42.350 --> 00:00:44.170 they think you know people assume that i just 00:00:44.170 --> 00:00:45.770 like a lot of latin horror in general which i 00:00:45.770 --> 00:00:47.929 do but it's not like something i dig too deep 00:00:47.929 --> 00:00:50.689 into and i was like actually no thank you for 00:00:50.689 --> 00:00:52.929 putting me onto that so yeah i kept getting several 00:00:52.929 --> 00:00:56.000 messages about it and i was like hey these are 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.039 actually kind of kind of cool looking you know 00:00:58.039 --> 00:00:59.799 i kind of want to get into it and then joy was 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:01.380 one of the people too that hit me up about it 00:01:01.380 --> 00:01:03.479 and then you were the first to buy it right i 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:05.060 think yeah you were the first to buy a joy uh 00:01:05.060 --> 00:01:08.159 between us or between yeah between yeah between 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:10.579 us yeah between us yeah for sure yeah yeah and 00:01:10.579 --> 00:01:11.719 then you were telling me yeah they were cool 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.560 and i was like oh shit fuck yeah so then yeah 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:15.219 i bought the blu -ray like maybe a week or two 00:01:15.219 --> 00:01:18.299 after and i watched them both the same day and 00:01:18.299 --> 00:01:20.060 i was just like oh these are fucking awesome 00:01:20.060 --> 00:01:23.180 and then i just I don't know. I got more curious 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:25.799 about like the release, you know, the release, 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.140 the company and who's behind this. You know, 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.879 I wanted to know more. And then rather than just 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:32.579 hit up the person that's in charge of this, I 00:01:32.579 --> 00:01:34.379 was like, you know what? I gave Joy the idea. 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.640 Let's let's just do it for the podcast. You know, 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.140 let's go somewhere a little different. And then 00:01:39.140 --> 00:01:40.920 Joy was like, yeah. And then what was the mission, 00:01:40.980 --> 00:01:42.739 Joy? The whole point of this episode, you said 00:01:42.739 --> 00:01:45.099 you wanted to explore more different Latin genre 00:01:45.099 --> 00:01:47.489 films. Yeah, I mean, like I was saying before 00:01:47.489 --> 00:01:49.930 we went live on air with Anthony, it was that 00:01:49.930 --> 00:01:53.310 I wanted to discuss because, you know, you and 00:01:53.310 --> 00:01:55.469 I talk about this a lot and we talk about it 00:01:55.469 --> 00:01:58.349 with other people as well, is, you know, the 00:01:58.349 --> 00:02:02.549 lack of representation of Latin America in home 00:02:02.549 --> 00:02:06.670 video, especially genre, you know, horror, fantasy, 00:02:06.849 --> 00:02:11.740 B -cinema, whatever you want to call it. You 00:02:11.740 --> 00:02:17.379 know, when someone finally releases a disc of, 00:02:17.460 --> 00:02:19.039 you know, like you said, movies that I've never 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.120 heard of that are that piqued my interest. You 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.300 know what? We got to talk about this because 00:02:23.300 --> 00:02:26.139 no one else really is. And it is important because, 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.180 like I said, it is underrepresented, represented. 00:02:29.500 --> 00:02:31.900 And we just wanted to shine a little bit more 00:02:31.900 --> 00:02:34.840 light on it. Yeah. So we're here with Anthony 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.139 Napolitano of Petroglyph Media. Say hello, Anthony. 00:02:38.740 --> 00:02:41.879 Hello, everybody. Awesome. Can you tell me how 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:44.500 you started this label and why did you want to 00:02:44.500 --> 00:02:47.180 start this label and why these two movies in 00:02:47.180 --> 00:02:51.520 particular? So my interest in this is, you know, 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:55.300 I I'm 39 years old. I came up around the time 00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:58.379 that the DVD industry was booming. I've been 00:02:58.379 --> 00:03:04.039 collecting for years. And, you know. I think 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.719 as the years went by and I gathered more and 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.860 more films, you become kind of jaded and you're 00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:10.659 kind of always like looking for that next like 00:03:10.659 --> 00:03:12.740 hit of something that you've never seen before. 00:03:14.099 --> 00:03:16.479 It becomes almost an addiction. Like you want 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.319 to, you're going into deeper and darker places, 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:24.300 you know, corners of cinema that are a bit underrepresented, 00:03:24.419 --> 00:03:30.000 under seen. And so, you know, I would, in college. 00:03:30.509 --> 00:03:32.330 My girlfriend at the time, she was Colombian. 00:03:32.330 --> 00:03:34.729 I used to ask, I was like, hey, what cinema does 00:03:34.729 --> 00:03:37.949 Colombia have? And, you know, she really couldn't 00:03:37.949 --> 00:03:39.750 speak to that. And, you know, when I would Google 00:03:39.750 --> 00:03:44.469 it, there were films that didn't really catch 00:03:44.469 --> 00:03:46.150 my interest. And I would always like look up, 00:03:46.169 --> 00:03:48.409 like, are there Colombian horror films? Nothing 00:03:48.409 --> 00:03:50.710 would ever come up at the time. And this was 00:03:50.710 --> 00:03:55.449 back in like 2008. And then eventually, you know, 00:03:55.490 --> 00:03:59.860 my wife is Colombian. I would ask her if she 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:02.020 had ever heard of any genre films from Columbia. 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.120 She's like, no. I would always just Google it 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:06.740 and see if anything came up. And eventually, 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:10.120 Hydro Pinilla's name came up. And I was like, 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.699 wow, this is interesting. This guy has a nice 00:04:12.699 --> 00:04:15.879 body of work. He's done horror. He's done action. 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.759 And prior to... He hadn't been really out there. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.860 I hadn't heard much about him. And it was kind 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:27.300 of hard to see the films. So... I kind of just 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:29.160 sat on that knowing that he existed, knowing 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.040 he was out there, knowing that he had created 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:34.160 the first Colombian horror film, Funeral Sinestro. 00:04:34.980 --> 00:04:38.220 And then it wasn't until I think it was the end 00:04:38.220 --> 00:04:42.220 of 2020 that I just looked him up again. I saw 00:04:42.220 --> 00:04:44.899 that a site in Colombia was actually streaming 00:04:44.899 --> 00:04:47.779 his films and I tried to rent it to watch it 00:04:47.779 --> 00:04:50.800 for myself. And for whatever reason, it didn't 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.720 work. And I kind of just put that. on the back 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:56.399 runner, like, Oh man, it would have been great 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:58.639 if I could have shown this, shown this to my 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:03.100 son. Because, you know, as somebody who's really 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:05.439 into genre films, I'm, I'm passing that on to 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.879 my kids. You know, I'm showing them all the stuff 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:09.579 that I loved as a kid, you know, cause I started 00:05:09.579 --> 00:05:11.899 as somebody that was into dinosaurs, into monsters, 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.959 Godzilla. And then eventually that went into, 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.100 you know, horror movies. So right now, you know, 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:19.819 every Saturday we're watching Svengoolie. When 00:05:19.819 --> 00:05:23.389 I get the chance, we have a, we have a, a drive 00:05:23.389 --> 00:05:26.889 -in in the Poconos in Pennsylvania, the Mahonin 00:05:26.889 --> 00:05:29.269 drive -in, which is only 35 millimeter. And they 00:05:29.269 --> 00:05:32.589 do great shows throughout the summer. So they 00:05:32.589 --> 00:05:34.490 have a schlock -o -rama. I took him to see Godzilla 00:05:34.490 --> 00:05:37.110 1985 on the big screen, Earth versus the Flying 00:05:37.110 --> 00:05:40.089 Saucers. Things like that, you know, I really 00:05:40.089 --> 00:05:43.370 enjoy connecting with him on that level. And 00:05:43.370 --> 00:05:46.790 because, you know, I'm half Italian and Puerto 00:05:46.790 --> 00:05:50.899 Rican, his mother is Colombian. I never... learn 00:05:50.899 --> 00:05:54.540 to speak Spanish. My mother spoke Spanish. It 00:05:54.540 --> 00:05:57.459 was just never taught at home, but I wanted to 00:05:57.459 --> 00:06:00.040 make sure that my sons learned to speak Spanish. 00:06:00.180 --> 00:06:04.100 So part of that education is watching genre films, 00:06:04.500 --> 00:06:08.399 usually Mexican genre films in Spanish so they 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.959 can watch. So we're watching El Santo movies. 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.220 At Christmas time, we're always breaking out 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:18.269 the Rene Cardona. Santa Claus film, you know, 00:06:18.269 --> 00:06:20.089 just so that way they can experience something 00:06:20.089 --> 00:06:24.170 other than the usual what's mainstream now. Instead 00:06:24.170 --> 00:06:25.949 of just watching Marvel movies, I want them to 00:06:25.949 --> 00:06:28.689 see stuff from Latin America and to know that 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:30.970 there was a Colombian filmmaker out there that 00:06:30.970 --> 00:06:33.209 did genre films. That was something that I felt 00:06:33.209 --> 00:06:36.490 was important to, you know, to be able to show 00:06:36.490 --> 00:06:40.410 my boys. You know, they already have their Italian 00:06:40.410 --> 00:06:43.509 heritage is very well represented, you know. 00:06:45.100 --> 00:06:47.620 That that history has been rectified since the 00:06:47.620 --> 00:06:50.939 90s. So it was time to show that other half. 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:59.379 So I think in 2021. I remember very clearly it 00:06:59.379 --> 00:07:01.480 was New Year's Day. We went into the city. We 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.480 went to St. Patrick's Cathedral. My son asked 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:05.500 to light a candle for one of the saints. And 00:07:05.500 --> 00:07:07.920 so we chose St. Anthony. And I was like telling 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.019 him he's the saint that will help you find things 00:07:10.019 --> 00:07:12.420 that are lost. And so I just did a little prayer 00:07:12.420 --> 00:07:15.699 asking for his intercession to, you know, at 00:07:15.699 --> 00:07:17.939 the time I wasn't working because of because 00:07:17.939 --> 00:07:20.000 of COVID. It was decided that I would stay home 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:21.800 and be with my son because his daycare closed. 00:07:23.149 --> 00:07:26.149 And looking at the prospect of finding a new 00:07:26.149 --> 00:07:28.170 job, I just said a prayer like, help me find 00:07:28.170 --> 00:07:30.250 something that I really enjoy this year. Help 00:07:30.250 --> 00:07:32.410 me find something that fulfills me. And then 00:07:32.410 --> 00:07:34.410 that evening I went home and I was looking at 00:07:34.410 --> 00:07:36.970 the Jairo Pineda movie streaming again. And I 00:07:36.970 --> 00:07:39.829 was like, you know what? I could just probably 00:07:39.829 --> 00:07:42.870 do this. Why don't I just reach out to these 00:07:42.870 --> 00:07:45.870 people, see if his films are available to license 00:07:45.870 --> 00:07:49.110 and maybe I can do it. And, you know, I have 00:07:49.110 --> 00:07:52.980 no experience. in this industry at all, other 00:07:52.980 --> 00:07:55.120 than the fact that I'm just a huge fan, that 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.959 I've been paying attention to the intricacies 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.180 of how these releases are done, what kind of 00:08:01.180 --> 00:08:02.600 goes into them. And I just felt like, you know, 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.879 maybe I do know enough that I could just try 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.319 my hand at this. And that's kind of how it all 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:12.079 started. So that's interesting. What was the 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.519 reception when you started to reach out to people 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:19.029 about... you know, Jairo Pena's filmography? 00:08:19.129 --> 00:08:21.370 Like were people like, oh yeah, for sure. Or 00:08:21.370 --> 00:08:23.310 was that something where they were just kind 00:08:23.310 --> 00:08:25.050 of like, well, why do you want to license that? 00:08:25.110 --> 00:08:27.189 Or why do you care about that? So the vibe that 00:08:27.189 --> 00:08:29.509 I get from him is that he's very like giving 00:08:29.509 --> 00:08:32.529 to the younger generation. Like he, I think as 00:08:32.529 --> 00:08:35.370 somebody who just, you know, taught himself filmmaking 00:08:35.370 --> 00:08:38.190 and just was doing it all on his own, whenever 00:08:38.190 --> 00:08:40.830 he gets approached by younger people who want 00:08:40.830 --> 00:08:44.330 to do the same thing, he's very, charitable with 00:08:44.330 --> 00:08:47.450 his time uh and i think that this site was also 00:08:47.450 --> 00:08:50.389 run by you know a local group of film fans in 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:52.750 columbia that you know kind of idolize him so 00:08:52.750 --> 00:08:54.809 when i mentioned when i spoke with the guy that 00:08:54.809 --> 00:08:56.490 ran the website i was like do you do you have 00:08:56.490 --> 00:08:58.049 contact with him do you think he'd be interested 00:08:58.049 --> 00:09:00.230 and he's like i just called him up and he said 00:09:00.230 --> 00:09:01.970 he would be very interested in licensing the 00:09:01.970 --> 00:09:05.730 films so from there it was just like you know 00:09:05.730 --> 00:09:09.340 kind of back and forth on WhatsApp, giving him 00:09:09.340 --> 00:09:12.620 my ideas and him telling Mr. Peneja. And then 00:09:12.620 --> 00:09:15.259 finally, you know, having a Zoom call with him 00:09:15.259 --> 00:09:18.120 where I kind of like laid it out. And, you know, 00:09:18.139 --> 00:09:19.980 my wife was there with me kind of doing the translation 00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:23.559 and everything. And, you know, I had already 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:25.500 kind of done a little bit of research on what 00:09:25.500 --> 00:09:28.519 companies I would use for doing restoration and 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.360 just kind of going over that process. And he 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:36.000 was very, very much all for it. At the time, 00:09:36.019 --> 00:09:39.120 I thought that perhaps none of his films had 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.039 ever been released in the United States. But 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:43.820 actually somebody on Instagram had actually messaged 00:09:43.820 --> 00:09:46.539 me that Triangulo de Oro actually had a VHS release 00:09:46.539 --> 00:09:50.179 back in the 80s in the U .S. Very, very rare. 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.220 I don't even remember if that was brought up 00:09:52.220 --> 00:09:55.899 in our conversation. But yeah, this was really 00:09:55.899 --> 00:09:58.820 outside of that. None of his films have really 00:09:58.820 --> 00:10:03.700 gotten much exposure. outside of their initial 00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:08.019 releases in in latin america um so this was you 00:10:08.019 --> 00:10:11.440 know a big deal for him and yeah i was just as 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.899 somebody who did not have any experience doing 00:10:13.899 --> 00:10:17.200 this before i was very happy that he was he was 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.240 agreeable to it wow so one man basically this 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.679 is all you that's crazy yeah awesome like not 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.379 crazy crazy but that's like crazy cool Yeah, 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:28.720 especially because sometimes you hear stories 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.039 where, you know, filmmakers just don't even care 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.179 about their own work or their own filmography. 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.600 And it makes it a little bit more challenging. 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:37.519 You know, at least you can go directly to the 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:40.559 man himself and at least have access to finding 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.220 elements like, you know, because I think you 00:10:42.220 --> 00:10:47.940 used a 35 millimeter theatrical print for Funeral 00:10:47.940 --> 00:10:51.500 Siniestro, right? Yes. So like the the elements 00:10:51.500 --> 00:10:53.620 for a lot of his films, unfortunately, it seems. 00:10:54.700 --> 00:10:56.639 A lot of them have been lost. Some of the films 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.419 that he did later on, like I'm not sure exactly 00:10:59.419 --> 00:11:01.559 what the story was with Funeral Sinestro, but 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.940 nothing else existed except for that 35 millimeter 00:11:03.940 --> 00:11:08.779 print that the National Archives holds. But some 00:11:08.779 --> 00:11:10.879 of his later films, I think, also got funding 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.539 from the government. And for whatever reason, 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.419 they kind of just like seized the negatives and 00:11:16.419 --> 00:11:20.460 they were just kind of lost. Triangulo de Oro, 00:11:20.539 --> 00:11:22.970 he has that one inch. video master that he made 00:11:22.970 --> 00:11:25.850 back in the day and he holds on to that you know 00:11:25.850 --> 00:11:27.669 that's that's that's with him wherever he goes 00:11:27.669 --> 00:11:30.649 um and i'm not sure about the status of the other 00:11:30.649 --> 00:11:33.049 films but from what our conversation was that 00:11:33.049 --> 00:11:35.570 initial zoom conversation it does seem that a 00:11:35.570 --> 00:11:37.389 lot of the elements for for most of his films 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:40.990 are not really uh they're kind of non -existent 00:11:40.990 --> 00:11:42.830 at this point there might be video masters but 00:11:42.830 --> 00:11:46.090 um funa nasi neser i think was the only one that 00:11:46.090 --> 00:11:49.710 we had access to actual print material uh for 00:11:51.359 --> 00:11:53.620 so yeah that's very common with a lot of like 00:11:53.620 --> 00:11:56.159 latin countries they just are so careless with 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.059 negatives and film prints like that partly because 00:11:59.059 --> 00:12:01.100 yeah they just didn't think about it you know 00:12:01.100 --> 00:12:04.080 archiving in the moment yeah and also just like 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.460 yeah the government getting in the way they're 00:12:06.460 --> 00:12:08.259 just like you know whatever this is garbage just 00:12:08.259 --> 00:12:11.139 throw it away we don't need this yeah especially 00:12:11.139 --> 00:12:13.440 if there wasn't if there wasn't a big you know 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.159 international release at the time they probably 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.879 can't foresee much of a secondary market you 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:23.720 know 40 50 years after after the fact um so yeah 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.820 he was very happy that you know the film was 00:12:25.820 --> 00:12:28.340 going to get some exposure uh so that was like 00:12:28.340 --> 00:12:32.879 early 2021 um we went back and forth a long time 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.779 kind of doing the contract just because like 00:12:35.779 --> 00:12:37.879 i said i've never done any of this before i'm 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.480 like what does a contract even look like like 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.820 what should this be and i kind of just like downloaded 00:12:42.820 --> 00:12:44.919 film contracts. I got a book with film contracts. 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.080 I went through it and been like, all right, what 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.500 are the things that I wanted to be in here? I 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:52.320 wanted to make sure that, you know, it was more 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.500 ideal for him than it was for me because he's 00:12:55.500 --> 00:12:58.820 taking on the risk of me having the film in my 00:12:58.820 --> 00:13:02.879 control for five years. Um, so I wanted it to 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:04.919 be like, you know, he's not losing access to 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:08.200 his film so I can just sit on it. So, you know, 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.200 everything was. was more in his favor than it 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.000 was in mine because I wanted him to feel comfortable 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:15.679 because I really appreciated that he was giving 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.480 me this opportunity. And then it was towards 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:22.379 the end of 2021, like in September or October, 00:13:22.580 --> 00:13:26.279 that we finally got to signing the contracts. 00:13:26.500 --> 00:13:29.320 My wife's aunt, she lives in Villa Vicencio. 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.019 She's a lawyer. We flew her out to Bogota. She 00:13:32.019 --> 00:13:35.039 met with him and his lawyer. And, you know, I 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.600 was. I was in the middle of work getting the 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.080 phone calls and it was like a three -way phone 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.620 call with my wife translating for everyone in 00:13:43.620 --> 00:13:46.159 Columbia and telling me what they were, new things 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:47.620 that they were coming up with on the contract. 00:13:47.700 --> 00:13:50.200 Can we do this? Can we do that? And I'm like 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.059 out in the parking lot and my bosses are like 00:13:52.059 --> 00:13:55.759 looking at me and I'm like, I'm on lunch. I'm 00:13:55.759 --> 00:14:01.039 on lunch, I swear. You know, everything got finalized. 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.240 And, you know, as soon as I sent over the first, 00:14:04.460 --> 00:14:06.840 wired them the first payment, they sent me the 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.500 file for Triangulo de Oro. And then we started 00:14:10.500 --> 00:14:14.580 making the preparations for them to send the 00:14:14.580 --> 00:14:18.450 35 millimeter print here to New York. I, for 00:14:18.450 --> 00:14:20.529 a long time, tried to see if there was anywhere 00:14:20.529 --> 00:14:23.470 in Colombia or somewhere in a neighboring country 00:14:23.470 --> 00:14:26.129 that would do restoration. So that way I wouldn't 00:14:26.129 --> 00:14:28.789 have to – I felt bad being responsible for the 00:14:28.789 --> 00:14:30.929 last remaining copy of this film. I was like, 00:14:30.970 --> 00:14:34.370 God forbid it gets lost on the plane or it gets 00:14:34.370 --> 00:14:37.730 damaged and it's my fault. So I really didn't 00:14:37.730 --> 00:14:39.710 want it to come to – to have to be shipped all 00:14:39.710 --> 00:14:41.710 the way to the U .S. But there was – I couldn't 00:14:41.710 --> 00:14:45.820 find anybody that did that kind of service. over 00:14:45.820 --> 00:14:47.700 there in Columbia. So they were totally fine 00:14:47.700 --> 00:14:50.000 with it. They said, you know, the, the national 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.039 archives is kind of used to that. They sending 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.240 their stuff out to other countries to be restored. 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.940 Um, and so we went with, uh, Metropolis post. 00:14:59.580 --> 00:15:03.440 Um, so again, with, uh, trying to find who was 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:05.000 going to do the restoration, just kind of looked 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.000 in the liner notes of all the Blu -rays that 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.960 I had trying to see, okay, what are the companies 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.429 that do this? Um, First one I was thinking of 00:15:12.429 --> 00:15:14.210 was I think it was called Cinerac. They did the 00:15:14.210 --> 00:15:16.309 restoration for Basket Case and they're they're 00:15:16.309 --> 00:15:18.629 located in New York. But the prices were just 00:15:18.629 --> 00:15:23.629 like astronomical. And Metropolis Post, much 00:15:23.629 --> 00:15:25.669 more reasonable. And then the fact that I could 00:15:25.669 --> 00:15:27.929 go back to Hydroponica and be like, hey, I'm 00:15:27.929 --> 00:15:30.429 having the guys that worked on Eraserhead and 00:15:30.429 --> 00:15:32.590 Grey Gardens and Pink Flamingos. They're going 00:15:32.590 --> 00:15:34.549 to be doing the restoration of your film. That 00:15:34.549 --> 00:15:36.669 that felt good to say that. And he was like, 00:15:36.710 --> 00:15:42.090 oh, you know, very impressed. that began a whole 00:15:42.090 --> 00:15:46.330 nother process where, and like, I have no frame 00:15:46.330 --> 00:15:48.730 of reference of how long it should take to restore 00:15:48.730 --> 00:15:53.389 a film. Obviously I think they had other competing 00:15:53.389 --> 00:15:58.769 business going on with a, a 24 at the time. But 00:15:58.769 --> 00:16:01.889 it took almost a year to restore the film. And 00:16:01.889 --> 00:16:03.509 I don't think that's necessarily because it was 00:16:03.509 --> 00:16:06.720 the. the hardest film to to go through i think 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:08.419 it was just more a fact that i wasn't like the 00:16:08.419 --> 00:16:10.679 number one priority uh they were kind of maybe 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.820 giving me a break on the price and whatnot um 00:16:12.820 --> 00:16:15.259 but it was just awesome you know whenever they 00:16:15.259 --> 00:16:16.580 would call me in and be like we need you to come 00:16:16.580 --> 00:16:18.440 and look at this and just go to like their private 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.600 like theater and have them screen it for me and 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.019 see the progress you know the first time that 00:16:23.019 --> 00:16:26.639 i saw it you know i literally like started not 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:28.419 crying like sobbing or anything but i was like 00:16:28.419 --> 00:16:30.399 i had a tear in my eye because i was like wow 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.120 you know look at what You know, I've been able 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:36.279 to do look at look at how this film, you know, 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.539 you can see clips on YouTube of how it was beforehand, 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.759 because I don't think there's any other clips 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.419 out there of the restoration. But there's like 00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:48.159 news programs about hydroponics and they have 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:49.460 clips from the movie and you can see it's got 00:16:49.460 --> 00:16:51.960 like the pinkish tint to it. And it's very grainy, 00:16:52.019 --> 00:16:55.039 a lot of dirt and everything. And to see it kind 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:58.000 of brought back to life and be so clear. I was 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.740 like, this is amazing. So, yeah, that was that 00:17:01.740 --> 00:17:04.400 was a whole. a whole nother process that that 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.500 took some time so you know this has been like 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:10.180 a three -year uh kind of not ordeal but just 00:17:10.180 --> 00:17:14.779 a long process uh long time coming yeah yeah 00:17:14.779 --> 00:17:16.839 no but worth it though because this release is 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:19.619 really unique and then now that we know the history 00:17:19.619 --> 00:17:21.640 behind it it's even more unique it's like down 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:25.460 this is like a total what i want to say do it 00:17:25.460 --> 00:17:27.240 yourself but you know in other words you know 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:28.940 you did this all on your own you know you put 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:31.289 this all together for your you know for your 00:17:31.289 --> 00:17:33.589 curiosity and then for other people to see it 00:17:33.589 --> 00:17:35.869 that's really admiring like i actually really 00:17:35.869 --> 00:17:38.650 admire you for that that's an awesome dude yeah 00:17:38.650 --> 00:17:41.670 it can't be easy doing that especially having 00:17:41.670 --> 00:17:43.990 no frame of reference of how you're even supposed 00:17:43.990 --> 00:17:48.589 to begin let alone having to to negotiate like 00:17:48.589 --> 00:17:52.710 you said and then getting a uh the elements from 00:17:52.710 --> 00:17:58.230 the national archive How extensive was the restoration? 00:17:58.490 --> 00:18:03.369 Was the print in decent shape or was it in bad 00:18:03.369 --> 00:18:08.690 shape? It was in decent shape, I guess. Like 00:18:08.690 --> 00:18:11.390 I had said, the color had kind of faded. It had 00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:15.809 gotten that pinkish tint to it. It was a bit 00:18:15.809 --> 00:18:20.250 dirty. But other than that, it wasn't too bad, 00:18:20.369 --> 00:18:23.410 I would say. And they kind of went over like 00:18:23.410 --> 00:18:25.809 the process of what they do. There's like certain 00:18:25.809 --> 00:18:29.049 levels of how much of the dirt and specks they 00:18:29.049 --> 00:18:30.950 can take off. And they're like, this is going 00:18:30.950 --> 00:18:32.849 to cost you this much. And if you go to this 00:18:32.849 --> 00:18:36.349 level, it'll cost you this much. And I kind of 00:18:36.349 --> 00:18:37.630 figured, you know, it doesn't have to be like 00:18:37.630 --> 00:18:40.970 super clean. I don't think that, you know, as 00:18:40.970 --> 00:18:43.849 genre fans, when it comes to a film like this, 00:18:44.009 --> 00:18:46.289 you're not expecting like the cleanest image 00:18:46.289 --> 00:18:48.190 and you kind of want some of that dirt and grit 00:18:48.190 --> 00:18:53.119 to it. So I didn't want them to do it like to 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.140 make it like really shiny or anything like that. 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.880 I just said, you know, there was a certain level 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:58.640 that I was comfortable with and also at the price 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.720 point that I was comfortable with that we just 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:07.099 went ahead with and the results. were very pleasing 00:19:07.099 --> 00:19:09.579 and also i just want to say if anyone had told 00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:11.279 me how much this thing would have cost overall 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.099 i don't think i ever would have done it i can't 00:19:17.099 --> 00:19:19.420 even imagine how expensive it is to do to take 00:19:19.420 --> 00:19:23.160 on a project like this yeah uh i'm glad that 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.480 i went into it kind of blind and not knowing 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.400 and kind of very naive because i so the reason 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.240 why i thought i could do it was i had some money 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.789 saved up and also around that time My mother 00:19:33.789 --> 00:19:35.529 had told me she was going to be selling her house 00:19:35.529 --> 00:19:37.809 later in the year and that me and my brother 00:19:37.809 --> 00:19:39.190 and my sisters were all going to get a little 00:19:39.190 --> 00:19:41.210 bit of money. So I was like, okay, if I get some 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:43.390 of that, then maybe I'll have enough to fund 00:19:43.390 --> 00:19:45.170 this project. It ended up being much more than 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:47.450 that, which is also why it took some time because 00:19:47.450 --> 00:19:50.230 I had to pay out of pocket for a lot of this 00:19:50.230 --> 00:19:53.250 stuff. So I'd have to wait until I accumulated 00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:56.190 enough money to pay for the next phase of the 00:19:56.190 --> 00:19:59.609 project. So that's why things kind of move slowly. 00:20:01.390 --> 00:20:03.990 But yeah, definitely, definitely worth it. I 00:20:03.990 --> 00:20:07.690 wouldn't change a thing about it. Freaking awesome. 00:20:07.970 --> 00:20:10.529 I'm like blown away by this story right now. 00:20:11.450 --> 00:20:13.930 It's just like, damn, the little guy did it. 00:20:14.849 --> 00:20:17.410 Not a big corporation, not people with big money. 00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:20.650 It's like just this one guy with the dream and 00:20:20.650 --> 00:20:23.769 a passion. Yeah. Cause you know, I figured his 00:20:23.769 --> 00:20:25.750 films have been around. I know that it's not, 00:20:25.769 --> 00:20:27.730 they're not the most widely known, but I figured 00:20:27.730 --> 00:20:32.160 why, why wait? to to see if like a vinegar syndrome 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.259 or i don't even know who else would possibly 00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:36.099 they're like the only company i could possibly 00:20:36.099 --> 00:20:39.119 foresee or mondo macabro uh why wait around to 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.839 see if one of them you know catches wind of it 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.200 let me just let me just go for it and and then 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.039 try to do the best job that i can and try to 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:51.019 be respectful of of this man's art um you know 00:20:51.019 --> 00:20:53.480 my biggest regret only is that i didn't get to 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.640 put any real special features on it uh that was 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:59.720 really came down to cost Jairo Pineda did share 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.460 with me a bunch of news segments that came out 00:21:04.460 --> 00:21:07.339 around the time, mainly from Triangulo de Oro, 00:21:07.420 --> 00:21:11.799 but also some interviews that he had. And it 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:13.339 was just a matter of not having the money to 00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:17.190 do the subtitling for those. There is like a 00:21:17.190 --> 00:21:19.569 special Easter egg. I don't know if anybody has 00:21:19.569 --> 00:21:22.049 has caught this on the main. I caught it. I caught 00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:24.569 it. Yeah. Yeah. I had to tell Joey about it. 00:21:24.589 --> 00:21:25.869 I was like, Joey. Yeah, I didn't I didn't catch 00:21:25.869 --> 00:21:28.369 it. Armando told me about it. I watched it. It 00:21:28.369 --> 00:21:30.009 was like two or three nights ago. I was like, 00:21:30.029 --> 00:21:32.849 this is actually really fucking cool, man. You 00:21:32.849 --> 00:21:35.650 can actually see that, you know, this wasn't 00:21:35.650 --> 00:21:37.630 as well because that was for Triangulo de Oro 00:21:37.630 --> 00:21:40.670 for the little Easter egg. But you can actually 00:21:40.670 --> 00:21:44.589 see a line. And not even being hyperbolic, but 00:21:44.589 --> 00:21:46.930 the line literally wrapping around the fucking 00:21:46.930 --> 00:21:50.890 block. Which goes to show that Jairo Pena was 00:21:50.890 --> 00:21:54.930 a respected filmmaker and people actually did 00:21:54.930 --> 00:21:58.589 enjoy going to see his movies. Yeah, absolutely. 00:21:59.089 --> 00:22:02.549 And you know, it's important to keep the films, 00:22:02.650 --> 00:22:05.650 these films have to be kept in circulation. If 00:22:05.650 --> 00:22:10.210 they're not in circulation, people forget. My 00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:13.049 wife's family, I ask around, anybody ever heard 00:22:13.049 --> 00:22:16.109 of this guy? No. People will eventually forget 00:22:16.109 --> 00:22:18.869 it. Outside of that first generation that would 00:22:18.869 --> 00:22:21.690 have seen it in a theater, if it's not constantly 00:22:21.690 --> 00:22:24.589 being reissued on video or playing on TV, then 00:22:24.589 --> 00:22:27.410 it fades into obscurity. And unfortunately, Jairo 00:22:27.410 --> 00:22:31.150 Pineda was kind of in danger of fading into obscurity. 00:22:31.349 --> 00:22:34.069 He talks about how I guess there was kind of 00:22:34.069 --> 00:22:38.480 a... An elitist kind of film group in Colombia 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:41.319 that kind of only championed the more artsy films 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.660 that were made. And he was kind of like pushed 00:22:44.660 --> 00:22:48.039 aside. That's familiar. That's Mexico right there 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:50.900 as well. They didn't see his type of cinema as 00:22:50.900 --> 00:22:53.240 being respectable or something that they wanted 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:56.099 to share with the world as Colombian product. 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.460 This is not the national image that we want to 00:22:58.460 --> 00:23:02.619 project. And it wasn't until I think probably 00:23:02.619 --> 00:23:05.039 like the early 2000s when he started to, you 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:07.200 know, there was film students in Colombia that 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.579 started to re -approach his work and kind of 00:23:10.579 --> 00:23:16.019 champion him. One of the main guys is Ciro Guerra, 00:23:16.299 --> 00:23:19.700 who became like the first Oscar nominated Colombian 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:22.839 filmmaker for Embrace of the Serpent. His like 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.160 college thesis was a short film on Jairo Pinilla. 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.000 Um, so he's a huge fan and he, he was inspired 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.980 by just the fact that, you know, Hyderabinija 00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:34.920 taught himself and just basically became like 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.019 kind of a one man industry. Uh, that was super 00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:42.980 inspiring to him. Um, so yeah, it's, I, I feel 00:23:42.980 --> 00:23:47.579 like, um, it was kind of almost like a part of 00:23:47.579 --> 00:23:50.539 my, my duty to my sons kind of to like preserve 00:23:50.539 --> 00:23:53.480 this legacy for, for them. They, they couldn't 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.079 care less at this point in their lives, but. 00:23:56.649 --> 00:23:59.009 um you know i want to be able to say hey you 00:23:59.009 --> 00:24:02.569 know i i kind of saved i saved this for you because 00:24:02.569 --> 00:24:04.329 this is kind of your birthright this is something 00:24:04.329 --> 00:24:07.490 on your on the colombian side of your your heritage 00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:10.690 that i want you to be proud of um so that was 00:24:10.690 --> 00:24:15.150 kind of a big factor going into it nah man i 00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:17.970 love it man i i the the the background is amazing 00:24:17.970 --> 00:24:20.769 i love that you're you know not only preserving 00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:23.890 it for you know film historians and film fans 00:24:23.890 --> 00:24:26.660 but also have that personal touch to it. Cause 00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:28.460 a lot of people, you know, a lot of, well, I 00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:30.119 don't want to accuse any companies. I'm not even 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:31.980 going to finish that sentence, but you know, 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.599 a lot of the times I feel like people don't necessarily 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:41.660 care enough about their own culture. So to have 00:24:41.660 --> 00:24:43.400 something like this, something tangible, something 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.900 that not only they can watch, but that their, 00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:48.839 their father did. I mean, that's, you know, it's, 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.059 it's amazing, man. I love it. I love to hear 00:24:51.059 --> 00:24:55.019 it. Thank you. Well, I mean, let's kind of segue 00:24:55.019 --> 00:24:57.059 into it then. I mean, we spoke a little bit about 00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:59.900 Jairo Pinilla, but let's kind of go a little 00:24:59.900 --> 00:25:02.920 bit more into him as a person. I mean, there's 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.720 not really a lot of information out there that 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.359 I could find. I did read one interview of his 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:11.480 in Spanish where he didn't really talk about 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:13.380 himself, talking more about his own movies. But 00:25:13.380 --> 00:25:17.640 he did. He did have something to say about. being 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:20.960 against art house cinema and preferring uh superman 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:23.099 movies over buñuel movies which i thought was 00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:26.960 fucking hilarious yeah that's something not a 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:28.240 lot of people would say especially filmmakers 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.940 it's like if you talk about buñuel you're gonna 00:25:30.940 --> 00:25:32.640 get looked down upon but it's like you know what 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.740 sometimes you just don't have to like that artsy 00:25:34.740 --> 00:25:37.200 shit so yeah that's no that's good he's honest 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.519 it's funny that he mentioned superman because 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.339 one of the issues when we were when he was sending 00:25:42.339 --> 00:25:44.700 over triangulo de oro is the fact that he had 00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:49.769 used soundtrack cues from Superman. Oh, shit. 00:25:50.690 --> 00:25:53.170 And he's like, I'm afraid that this is, you know, 00:25:53.170 --> 00:25:54.670 that they're going to find out and I'm going 00:25:54.670 --> 00:25:56.589 to get sued. I'm like, I don't think they're 00:25:56.589 --> 00:25:58.789 going to care at this point. But he actually 00:25:58.789 --> 00:26:01.250 like the soundtrack is is something like he had 00:26:01.250 --> 00:26:03.170 an alternate version with music that he composed. 00:26:03.329 --> 00:26:05.109 At least that's what he told me. And that's the 00:26:05.109 --> 00:26:08.730 version that's on on the Blu -ray. So anybody 00:26:08.730 --> 00:26:10.369 don't nobody should think that they're missing 00:26:10.369 --> 00:26:13.680 out on anything. It's not like it was just. you 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.720 know music from superman apparently was what 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.559 it originally played out there was something 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.500 that sounded like superman now that you mentioned 00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:22.700 yeah it might have been it might have still been 00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:24.119 something it might have been yeah because it 00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:25.920 was like a little yeah something in there i'm 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.420 like why does this sound familiar but now that 00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:29.819 you bring that up but i figured at this point 00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:31.940 because i feel like there's like thinking specifically 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:34.359 more about like indonesian films i noticed like 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.259 some of them will use music that i'm like there's 00:26:36.259 --> 00:26:38.319 no way they got the copyright for that oh no 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.990 and I don't think anybody is pursuing that legally 00:26:42.990 --> 00:26:46.130 at this point. So I felt comfortable that it 00:26:46.130 --> 00:26:50.710 wasn't going to be a problem. Well, let's talk 00:26:50.710 --> 00:26:54.470 about the movies themselves, I guess, a little 00:26:54.470 --> 00:26:59.809 bit. Funeral Siniestro was, I guess, his first 00:26:59.809 --> 00:27:02.150 feature film. Is that correct? Yeah, so he had 00:27:02.150 --> 00:27:06.519 done some shorts in the past. I'm not sure how 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.740 many, but the people that funded his shorts are 00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:11.740 the ones that eventually they saw promise in 00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:13.259 his work and they funded this one. I think he 00:27:13.259 --> 00:27:16.059 said it was like a trucking company were the 00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:18.839 ones that gave him the money for it. And yeah, 00:27:18.859 --> 00:27:21.900 it's like inspired by a memory that he had from 00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:24.980 childhood where one of his classmates' father 00:27:24.980 --> 00:27:28.819 had died and the whole school went to go to the 00:27:28.819 --> 00:27:30.880 wake and the body was just like out there for 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.309 everyone to see and it really affected him. And 00:27:34.309 --> 00:27:36.490 that was like kind of the impetus for this story. 00:27:37.650 --> 00:27:39.890 Oh, well, that definitely ties into the funeral 00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:44.430 scene later on in the movie, because they're 00:27:44.430 --> 00:27:48.730 actually there's the scene where what's her name 00:27:48.730 --> 00:27:52.089 is Isabelita Isabel, where she runs into the 00:27:52.089 --> 00:27:54.410 well, I don't know. Well, you know what? Look, 00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:56.890 I'm just going to say right now, let's do you 00:27:56.890 --> 00:27:58.430 want to spoil the movie or do you not want to 00:27:58.430 --> 00:28:01.569 spoil the movie? Do we care or not? No, we can 00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:03.470 spoil the movie. All right. Yeah. Let's, let's 00:28:03.470 --> 00:28:05.289 spoil it then. So, I mean, we're getting way 00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:07.089 ahead of ourselves, but you know, later on in 00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.089 the movie at around like the hour mark, there's 00:28:09.089 --> 00:28:11.529 a, you know, there's a funeral scene where just 00:28:11.529 --> 00:28:13.609 the young, you know, the young girl who's like 00:28:13.609 --> 00:28:15.410 the main, you know, character of this movie, 00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:18.769 she sees, I won't say who until a little bit 00:28:18.769 --> 00:28:21.269 later, but she sees a dead body. It starts to 00:28:21.269 --> 00:28:23.589 come to life or at least she thinks it comes 00:28:23.589 --> 00:28:26.450 to life. So hearing that story of him, you know, 00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:29.089 kind of being traumatized by seeing a dead person. 00:28:29.150 --> 00:28:32.160 I mean, is a direct correlation to that scene 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.400 for sure. I mean, it has to be right. Yeah. Yeah, 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:39.559 absolutely. And yeah, it's just interesting to 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.259 think of like, I, you know, I'm here in the States 00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:47.059 growing up. I've never, you know, apparently 00:28:47.059 --> 00:28:49.000 this was a thing back in the day. My mother tells 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.259 me like in Brooklyn, the Italian families, they 00:28:51.259 --> 00:28:52.720 would, when somebody would die, they would do 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.599 the wake in the house and stuff, which is not 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.509 something that. happened in my lifetime but i 00:28:57.509 --> 00:28:59.170 don't know what preparation there was done but 00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:02.190 like if somebody died invite the family over 00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:04.009 we're gonna lay out the body on the bed and that's 00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:07.210 kind of like how it was done um i've never really 00:29:07.210 --> 00:29:09.609 heard that outside of uh i think in one of the 00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:13.349 there's a documentary uh for ruggero diodato 00:29:13.349 --> 00:29:15.529 where he kind of talks about something very similar 00:29:15.529 --> 00:29:19.299 where he have to you know somebody dies the the 00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:21.359 body is left in the house everyone has to come 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.019 and see it i mean we do the same thing with the 00:29:23.019 --> 00:29:24.380 weight but there's more a little bit more preparation 00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:27.619 at a funeral home um so i just kind of found 00:29:27.619 --> 00:29:29.839 that aspect of it culturally interesting that 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.819 the body is just kind of there in the house she's 00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:36.440 got to stay with it overnight um definitely would 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.240 uh would freak me out yeah hell yeah they do 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.279 that in mexico actually like little and then 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.259 they'll plan the funeral like for the day after 00:29:44.259 --> 00:29:47.259 two days after so it's very yeah mexico is real 00:29:47.259 --> 00:29:49.359 quick i remember when my when my grandma passed 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.859 i mean when we got the news that she passed we 00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:53.460 were on a flight that night because they were 00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:54.920 like we're not waiting for you guys you're here 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:56.599 in the morning or you're not and we're like fuck 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.759 all right let's go hopped on a flight immediately 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.619 so yeah they don't you know and then the wakes 00:30:01.619 --> 00:30:03.500 will be at the house usually it'll be like right 00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:06.680 in the living room or their bedroom and then 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.609 that's when they go to the funeral It's like 00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:12.230 a cultural type of thing. Ethnic culture type 00:30:12.230 --> 00:30:16.529 of thing. Have the deceased person at their home 00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:22.769 before they go. Who were the actors? Do you have 00:30:22.769 --> 00:30:25.289 any type of history of the actors? Obviously, 00:30:25.670 --> 00:30:27.809 none of us are really going to know who they 00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:31.769 are. I don't know too much about the actors. 00:30:33.869 --> 00:30:36.490 And to be honest, I don't have too much background 00:30:36.490 --> 00:30:38.849 information about the films themselves. I didn't 00:30:38.849 --> 00:30:40.990 really get to talk with Jairo at length about 00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:44.569 it during that initial call that we had. And 00:30:44.569 --> 00:30:48.549 truth be told, I had not seen the films until 00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:52.230 after I had licensed them. So I had no idea what 00:30:52.230 --> 00:30:55.109 I kind of only had a gist of what they were about. 00:30:55.150 --> 00:30:57.450 And I had seen enough clips to know that I wanted 00:30:57.450 --> 00:31:01.230 to. to release them but i hadn't actually watched 00:31:01.230 --> 00:31:04.569 them fully through um so it was kind of just 00:31:04.569 --> 00:31:06.529 going on faith alone that that it was going to 00:31:06.529 --> 00:31:12.410 be something that i would enjoy from what i'm 00:31:12.410 --> 00:31:13.789 seeing it looks like a lot of the actors were 00:31:13.789 --> 00:31:15.950 just like once that's it that was the only yeah 00:31:15.950 --> 00:31:19.430 i don't think i don't think it was anybody you 00:31:19.430 --> 00:31:21.180 know and there's To begin with, there's not a 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:23.880 big – there's really no film industry to speak 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.380 of. It definitely wasn't at the time. There only 00:31:26.380 --> 00:31:29.380 would have been actors from like local telenovelas 00:31:29.380 --> 00:31:30.819 or something like that. But I don't think anybody 00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:33.940 was at that level that were in these films. I 00:31:33.940 --> 00:31:36.039 think they were maybe local theater actors or 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:41.140 people that he knew that were in the movie. But 00:31:41.140 --> 00:31:44.319 I'm hoping to have a more lengthy discussion 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.039 with him because me and my family, we're going 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.759 to go to Columbia in the summer. We just booked 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.059 our flights. So I'm going to be reaching out 00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:52.900 to him and his people and seeing if we can set 00:31:52.900 --> 00:31:54.819 up a day that, you know, we'll be able to meet 00:31:54.819 --> 00:31:56.599 and I'll be able to have that more in -depth 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.200 conversation with him about about the films and 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.480 his career. Oh, yeah, man, that'd be that'd be 00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:08.400 great. Yeah. Make a documentary out of it. Well, 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.880 how about this? Let me let me let you, Anthony, 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:16.220 set up the the synopsis, if you will, of. Funeral 00:32:16.220 --> 00:32:18.420 Siniestro for the people that haven't seen it. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.460 Why don't you just give them like a little two 00:32:21.460 --> 00:32:24.059 to three sentence breakdown of what the movie 00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:27.079 is about? So Funeral Siniestro, it's about this 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.859 young girl. Her father has just passed away. 00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:33.599 Now her uncle is going to make the arrangements 00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.000 for everything that has to be done now that he's 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.500 passed. In the meantime, she has to stay at their 00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:43.920 hacienda out in the country with her stepmother. 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.140 uh who we're getting the vibes may have been 00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:49.819 the one that kind of that offed her father um 00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:53.200 and you can tell right off the bat that she this 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.640 woman does not appreciate uh this girl she wants 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.160 her out of the picture uh and things kind of 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.980 just escalate from there uh without giving away 00:33:01.980 --> 00:33:05.940 too much um yeah i think that i think that kind 00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:08.400 of sets it up pretty much this girl is basically 00:33:09.230 --> 00:33:11.430 stuck in the house with her wicked stepmother 00:33:11.430 --> 00:33:14.349 and uh who basically wants her out of the picture 00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:17.029 and things kind of go from there yeah and her 00:33:17.029 --> 00:33:20.029 stepmom was like fucking like super brutal super 00:33:20.029 --> 00:33:22.750 mean and aggressive towards her i mean i don't 00:33:22.750 --> 00:33:25.289 know where that disdain for for the stepdaughter 00:33:25.289 --> 00:33:28.420 came from but um Yeah, she fucking hated her 00:33:28.420 --> 00:33:30.339 guts, man. I don't know if it was that or she 00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:33.140 just wanted more control of the property and 00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:36.380 the inheritance itself. I feel like there's a 00:33:36.380 --> 00:33:38.420 line in there where she says that she was the 00:33:38.420 --> 00:33:41.259 result of her husband's philandering or something 00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:46.660 like that. So I'm not sure. But yeah, there's 00:33:46.660 --> 00:34:07.410 definitely money that she's after. As always. 00:34:07.970 --> 00:34:11.670 It always comes down to money, doesn't it? Yeah, 00:34:11.710 --> 00:34:13.610 the thing that I liked about this movie a lot 00:34:13.610 --> 00:34:18.940 was that it's definitely a slow burn. listeners 00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:21.780 and eventual viewers beware that if you're not 00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:24.000 into slow burn movies you might you might have 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.579 an issue with it but to me it only made everything 00:34:26.579 --> 00:34:28.960 a little bit more effective because this kind 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.219 of has like that 70s moody very brooding um crude 00:34:34.219 --> 00:34:38.579 but not in a derogatory sense, vibe to it that 00:34:38.579 --> 00:34:43.099 to me plays better late at night, maybe even 00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.760 midnight movie to watch. Yeah, that's what I 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.320 was going to say. This is like the perfect movie 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:49.579 to watch in the dark. You can't watch this in 00:34:49.579 --> 00:34:52.900 the daytime. It has to be lights out, dark outside, 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.579 because that's pretty much how the movie feels. 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.420 It's just like a dark movie. Gives it that vibe 00:34:58.420 --> 00:35:01.860 for sure. I love the score on it. Like it's just, 00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:06.440 it's so... it's got a very lo -fi retro feel 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.159 to it uh only could have come out of the 70s 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.000 it's just that really sets the tone for me that 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.179 that score at the very beginning yeah that too 00:35:14.179 --> 00:35:16.360 yeah that opening funeral scene was just like 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.619 man you know it's like depressing but then you're 00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:20.659 also getting creeped out too like you know something's 00:35:20.659 --> 00:35:24.059 gonna go down later you know but even like it's 00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:25.739 like you know like you said the the soundtrack 00:35:25.739 --> 00:35:29.619 it's very like and again this is not derogatory 00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:33.219 but it's like elementary electronic soundtrack 00:35:33.219 --> 00:35:38.380 um but it fits the vibe of this movie so well 00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:40.559 because a lot of the times like the camera moves 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.900 there's no it's not like an italian movie we're 00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:44.659 eating all these crashes and stuff like that 00:35:44.659 --> 00:35:47.260 the camera moves very slow throughout this entire 00:35:47.260 --> 00:35:50.280 um the entire movie and the soundtrack plays 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.360 along with that as well as like kind of like 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.619 the the background elements of what's going on 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.360 um at the property when she's outside and she's 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.780 talking to everybody like everything moves so 00:36:00.780 --> 00:36:02.980 like i don't know what the word it is that i'm 00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:05.179 looking for but everything moves so slow but 00:36:05.179 --> 00:36:09.320 in unison if that makes sense you know and there's 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.400 definitely like some some gorgeous shots like 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.460 just like these slow pans um like when she's 00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:16.679 burying the body lucrezia's burying the body 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.980 outside uh we get this like really slow like 00:36:19.980 --> 00:36:22.619 uh vista of kind of her like moving the body 00:36:22.619 --> 00:36:27.840 or the scene um When Isabelle is with with some 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.579 of the other family members and it kind of just 00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:31.579 like hovers over their their reactions, their 00:36:31.579 --> 00:36:37.320 faces. Yeah, there's just some quality stuff 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.559 stuff in there for like a first time filmmaker. 00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.500 That's like very impressive. Yeah, exactly. Like 00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:46.179 being being your first feature length film. I 00:36:46.179 --> 00:36:48.780 mean, he knocked it out of the park. You know, 00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:53.159 it's it. It's only, what, an hour, 45 minutes, 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.639 something like that. And not a lot happens because 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.400 it all takes place in one central location. But 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.900 what does happen is very impactful to how it 00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:07.059 sets up the ending of the movie. um like the 00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:09.159 stepmother has like these weird i don't know 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.559 if she's a witch or she's just like a black magic 00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.420 practitioner or what but she there's like that 00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:16.460 scene where she's like lighting candles and smoking 00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:19.400 a cigar with like a skull in in this dark you 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:23.840 know dank room little center yeah that was crazy 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.920 i was like oh what's this lady up to now she's 00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.800 already mean it's like now she's a witch too 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:33.699 or what she's so bad And that's kind of like 00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:38.199 where the craziness starts, right? Because that's 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.960 when the first death takes place at that scene, 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.119 if I'm not mistaken. She finds out that the, 00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:48.619 what was his name, Jaime? He's like the house, 00:37:48.699 --> 00:37:50.340 not the housekeeper, but like the house help 00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:54.119 is like spying on her. So she's like, man, fuck 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.880 this fool and decides she wants to kill him. 00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:06.679 Ya me voy. Ah, si. Vas a contar lo que sabes. 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:36.090 Pues te equivocas. Tú no sales de aquí. just 00:38:36.090 --> 00:38:39.449 like nothing to this lady's mean she just does 00:38:39.449 --> 00:38:41.929 not give a fuck and you just like hate her you're 00:38:41.929 --> 00:38:43.449 just like fuck hopefully something bad happens 00:38:43.449 --> 00:38:46.829 to her she's like every every evil stepmom in 00:38:46.829 --> 00:38:48.670 every movie that's ever been portrayed right 00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:55.969 um and then there's also like um uh man i lost 00:38:55.969 --> 00:38:59.340 my train of thought What was I going to say? 00:38:59.460 --> 00:39:03.159 Oh, no, like the setup between character. Like, 00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:05.900 you know, we learned that the stepmom was in 00:39:05.900 --> 00:39:08.579 cahoots with the neighbor who obviously had a 00:39:08.579 --> 00:39:11.960 beef with Humberto, who, you know, ironically 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.440 is played by Jairo Pinilla, right? He's like 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:21.679 the uncle, the now stepfather. Yeah. Yeah, he 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.300 actually stars in quite a... I think he's got 00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:26.179 like a small role in pretty much all of his films. 00:39:28.590 --> 00:39:31.269 so yeah it's it's uh it's just interesting to 00:39:31.269 --> 00:39:36.130 see him you know in that time um yeah i don't 00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:39.269 know where i'm going with that no but it is cool 00:39:39.269 --> 00:39:40.889 though like he's in the movie he's not just making 00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:43.250 a cameo like he's actually in the movie yeah 00:39:43.250 --> 00:39:45.630 this ain't no hitchcock cameo it's like no this 00:39:45.630 --> 00:39:48.510 is him acting too well it's funny because like 00:39:48.510 --> 00:39:51.170 throughout this entire movie while you know isabel 00:39:51.170 --> 00:39:53.949 is being tortured and traumatized by her stepmom 00:39:53.949 --> 00:39:57.869 this was out you know in bogota on business and 00:39:57.869 --> 00:39:59.590 you know there's a scene where he's just in the 00:39:59.590 --> 00:40:02.090 club like dancing it up and like chilling with 00:40:02.090 --> 00:40:04.429 a bunch of a couple girls in the in a club where 00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:07.570 the band is playing and he has no idea that any 00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:09.869 of this is happening which i find kind of funny 00:40:09.869 --> 00:40:11.489 i don't know if that's intentional humor but 00:40:11.489 --> 00:40:13.130 not until like the ending and that's when he 00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:16.110 finally goes back and then all this stuff has 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:19.920 happened it's like damn bro where were you I 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.360 guess he was meeting one of his lawyers at that 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.400 club or something to tie up loose ends. Yeah, 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.840 he was trying to finalize the inheritance of 00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:30.739 the property and stuff, right? That's what he 00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:35.780 was going to do. Ain't no better place to deal 00:40:35.780 --> 00:40:38.000 business than inside a club while a band is playing. 00:41:00.189 --> 00:41:25.409 Thank you. But there is like a cool, like there's 00:41:25.409 --> 00:41:28.050 like a, I don't know what relevance it has to 00:41:28.050 --> 00:41:31.969 the movie at all, because it didn't really feel 00:41:31.969 --> 00:41:35.130 like it contributed to much. But there's a scene 00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:37.730 where there's like a solar eclipse. That's like 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:41.250 the halfway point of the movie. Yes. I was reading 00:41:41.250 --> 00:41:43.610 that that was like a real event that happened. 00:41:43.670 --> 00:41:46.250 That's like a known thing that happened in Colombia 00:41:46.250 --> 00:41:49.489 where it was visible from Bogota. And I'm not 00:41:49.489 --> 00:41:51.389 I mean, I forgot that there was a couple other 00:41:51.389 --> 00:41:55.389 cities that I guess were were affected by that, 00:41:55.409 --> 00:41:57.809 that were able to see it, which I thought was 00:41:57.809 --> 00:41:59.250 kind of cool, because at first I thought it was 00:41:59.250 --> 00:42:02.420 just an effect. But to find out that it was a 00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:03.820 real event, they were just like, fuck it, put 00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:06.179 the camera up and let's record this. Yeah, I 00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:07.920 don't know if it has any bearing on the story 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.400 itself, but it definitely was probably something 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.500 that was going on at the time of shooting. And 00:42:11.500 --> 00:42:13.820 they said this will just be something cool to 00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:15.840 add into the film. And I think it does kind of, 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.559 it adds to the mood. It kind of adds to the otherworldliness 00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:24.780 of what's happening right now. So yeah, a good 00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:27.159 stroke of brilliance to insert that into the 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.849 film. Adds to the atmosphere. Yeah, well, it 00:42:31.849 --> 00:42:33.730 plays like the halfway point because once that 00:42:33.730 --> 00:42:38.210 happens, then you have the funeral, obviously, 00:42:38.269 --> 00:42:40.690 that takes place, which is like the last, what, 00:42:40.909 --> 00:42:45.250 like 40 minutes, 45 minutes of the movie. Because 00:42:45.250 --> 00:42:47.130 before that, it's all just like the, you know, 00:42:47.150 --> 00:42:51.510 the scenes of the stepmom, you know, for lack 00:42:51.510 --> 00:42:54.510 of a better word, being a witch with a capital 00:42:54.510 --> 00:42:59.050 B. And then finally it happens, you know, she, 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:01.670 she, she ends up killing herself by tripping 00:43:01.670 --> 00:43:05.269 on like a, on some branches and, you know, impales 00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:08.590 herself on, on a tree that was cut by the, what 00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:10.630 was the name? Jaime, which I thought was like 00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:12.170 good. And I, you know, the funny thing is when 00:43:12.170 --> 00:43:14.329 that, when that's the first scene of the movie, 00:43:14.349 --> 00:43:16.429 when he's chopping down trees with the machete 00:43:16.429 --> 00:43:19.489 and they zoom into that, you know, just like 00:43:19.489 --> 00:43:21.210 a left branch. I was like, Oh, something, something 00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:22.909 crazy is going to happen with this. And sure 00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:25.090 enough, you know, she ends up killing herself 00:43:25.090 --> 00:43:31.059 on it. Yeah. everything is aligned um you know 00:43:31.059 --> 00:43:34.300 it's funny uh one thing that i read online which 00:43:34.300 --> 00:43:37.039 i think uh makes this kind of a cool you know 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:38.639 for for the haters that are going to say that 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.139 this isn't this isn't a mexican episode there's 00:43:41.139 --> 00:43:42.940 there is a mexican tie in here and i don't know 00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:44.480 if you're aware of this anthony or not but i 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:48.119 read that this movie was released at on the same 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:54.480 day as El Patrullero 777, which is a Cantinflas 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.039 movie, who obviously Mexican fans will know is 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.239 a Mexican comedian. So there's the tie -in, folks, 00:44:00.380 --> 00:44:02.280 for all the listeners that want to be haters. 00:44:02.420 --> 00:44:05.019 This does have to do with Mexico in some way, 00:44:05.179 --> 00:44:07.800 even if it's a small way. Also, Jairo Pineda, 00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:09.760 when he was, I think, like in his early 20s. 00:44:10.750 --> 00:44:12.989 He was working for a company in Mexico and on 00:44:12.989 --> 00:44:15.869 his off time, he would go to Chorobusco Studios 00:44:15.869 --> 00:44:19.230 and like hang out with the actors there and kind 00:44:19.230 --> 00:44:21.050 of like see them, you know, putting together 00:44:21.050 --> 00:44:24.909 the sets and taking them apart and whatnot. I 00:44:24.909 --> 00:44:26.869 think there's interviews of him speaking about 00:44:26.869 --> 00:44:29.110 like watching those classic films from the golden 00:44:29.110 --> 00:44:31.369 age of Mexican cinema that were like very inspiring 00:44:31.369 --> 00:44:33.889 to him. And that's why he wanted to visit those 00:44:33.889 --> 00:44:36.650 places when he was there. yeah the golden age 00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:39.250 of Mexican cinema that like inspired all of Latin 00:44:39.250 --> 00:44:42.730 cinema later on so that's how it all started 00:44:42.730 --> 00:44:45.369 for like Latin cinema in general Mexico started 00:44:45.369 --> 00:44:47.869 it and then these other countries saw it and 00:44:47.869 --> 00:44:49.349 were like well you know we need to make movies 00:44:49.349 --> 00:44:51.050 like this too you know we got stories to tell 00:44:51.050 --> 00:44:54.269 these are awesome so yeah so yeah it's awesome 00:44:54.269 --> 00:44:56.849 that he was inspired by Mexican cinema and then 00:44:56.849 --> 00:44:59.949 he went on to his own and basically started Columbia 00:44:59.949 --> 00:45:03.619 cinema Yes. So I guess so before him, there wasn't 00:45:03.619 --> 00:45:07.179 really anything of horror, was there? I've read 00:45:07.179 --> 00:45:09.780 that there's there were some films, but I haven't 00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:12.059 you know, I just see titles. I don't really find 00:45:12.059 --> 00:45:13.880 much information on what the films were about 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.360 or or more than that. But I think for him, for 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.559 Funera Sinestro, it's pretty much considered 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.099 the very first Colombian horror film. I think 00:45:24.099 --> 00:45:25.639 there might have been one other film that came 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:27.440 out. It's kind of like debatable which came out 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:32.099 first. But yeah, really, there there wasn't much 00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:35.900 before that. And there hasn't been like a succession 00:45:35.900 --> 00:45:37.780 of horror films out of Colombia, unfortunately. 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.820 The only other one that I know of from like 82, 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.219 there's a film called Pura Sangre, which is by 00:45:46.219 --> 00:45:49.000 another pretty well -known Colombian director, 00:45:49.380 --> 00:45:55.360 Luis Ospina. And he was kind of there was a group 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.159 of filmmakers out of Cali that. you know, originally 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.119 Hydroponica is from Cali, but he moved to Bogota. 00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:06.159 There was like a group, like a cinema club there 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.860 that kind of gave birth to some of these more 00:46:08.860 --> 00:46:13.340 artistic filmmakers, Luis Ospina being one of 00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:16.280 them. And I think he kind of dabbled in horror, 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.539 but it wasn't nothing full blown. I think that 00:46:20.539 --> 00:46:24.260 that particular film, it's about like a sugared. 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.880 plantation owner who's like dying and his uh 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.380 he needs blood transfusions to survive and his 00:46:31.380 --> 00:46:34.039 kids they go out and they basically kill people 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:35.840 from like their upper class and they kill people 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.119 from like the lower classes and drain them of 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:39.940 their blood so that way their their aging father 00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:43.380 can stay alive um great film yeah that one's 00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:45.079 crazy i've seen it before i actually have it 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.599 on vhs under i recall which is blood traffickers 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:54.420 but yeah that always fucking crazy yeah I got 00:46:54.420 --> 00:46:56.760 to add that to the watch list. Yeah, that's probably 00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.500 like another one to watch after. Like if you're 00:46:58.500 --> 00:47:00.599 really into Funeral Sinestro, you got to watch 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.940 this one as well. This is like another must -see 00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:06.179 Colombian horror film as well. Yeah, but outside 00:47:06.179 --> 00:47:08.659 of that, I'm not too familiar with it. There 00:47:08.659 --> 00:47:11.059 being much outside of what Jairo Pineda had done. 00:47:11.780 --> 00:47:15.539 Well, we do know that he ended up making, I guess, 00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:20.219 for lack of a better genre, an action -adventure 00:47:20.219 --> 00:47:24.280 film. which would be Triangulo de Oro, aka the 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.059 Triangle of Gold. What can you say about this 00:47:29.059 --> 00:47:32.039 movie? Set this up for the listeners. I think 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.260 this is one of his favorite films just because 00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:39.320 it had the widest release. He got to go film 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:45.639 in Panama for this one. It's very much like it's 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.099 following the same trend as a lot of those. that 00:47:50.099 --> 00:47:53.079 came out of Italy in the wake of Indiana Jones, 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.739 only with Colombian flavor to it. It's, you know, 00:47:57.739 --> 00:48:01.800 there's an island that has a treasure. There 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.380 are, you know, pirates or not pirates per se, 00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:07.239 but there's like a nefarious group that's after 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.840 this treasure map and this family that kind of 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.469 gets caught up in it. And, you know, you've got 00:48:14.469 --> 00:48:17.349 everything from like man eating vines, these 00:48:17.349 --> 00:48:20.570 rocks that glow and, you know, make blood come 00:48:20.570 --> 00:48:25.570 out of your face. There's a amazing like battle 00:48:25.570 --> 00:48:28.969 barroom brawl in the in the towards the beginning 00:48:28.969 --> 00:48:34.789 of the film. Yeah, it's just it's not very common 00:48:34.789 --> 00:48:39.369 to see that type of a film done, you know, on 00:48:39.369 --> 00:48:43.699 that in that kind of low budget sense that. DIY 00:48:43.699 --> 00:48:50.679 sense to try to tackle something so grand. Definitely 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:55.199 a very fun film. So my question is, was he trying 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.360 to make a family movie with this movie? Or was 00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.920 he just making an adventure film in general? 00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.840 Because I don't know. It came off as a family 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.260 -friendly film at first, but then it gets a little 00:49:05.260 --> 00:49:07.699 crazy after. So I was always wondering, who was 00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:09.920 he trying to market this movie to? It does feel 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.460 like he's going for a more general audience. 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:16.980 I don't know if it was intentionally meant to 00:49:16.980 --> 00:49:18.800 just be a family film, but yeah, he's definitely 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.800 trying to broaden the appeal of it by having 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.480 the, the child be like such a main focus. Yeah. 00:49:25.539 --> 00:49:27.639 That sounds like, is this a movie for kids? But 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.639 then there's blood and then there's these like 00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.739 ugly little monsters coming in. I was like, I 00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:34.420 don't think this is for kids, but maybe it was 00:49:34.420 --> 00:49:36.039 at first. I don't know. I was a little confused, 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.800 but it was cool. But I was just like, what the 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.920 heck is going on? Yeah, this is, this definitely 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.199 has the feel of like, like a, an al adamson like 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.539 kitchen sink type movie where you know you got 00:49:47.539 --> 00:49:50.300 you know uh action adventure but then it kind 00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:52.619 of pivots into like this like supernatural movie 00:49:52.619 --> 00:49:57.900 you got a a kung fu guy or not even a kung fu 00:49:57.900 --> 00:49:59.880 guy he's a karate guy like a chinese karate guy 00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:05.070 with the worst uh dubbed uh Asian accent of all 00:50:05.070 --> 00:50:08.670 time. Funny enough, felt like it had a little 00:50:08.670 --> 00:50:21.050 bit of like a Spanish accent as well. But then, 00:50:21.090 --> 00:50:23.449 like you said, you have like just tons of gore. 00:50:24.510 --> 00:50:26.550 You know, you have like these trees that are 00:50:26.550 --> 00:50:29.090 killing people that, you know, kind of akin to 00:50:29.090 --> 00:50:32.550 Evil Dead style where, you know. So this this 00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:34.710 movie just kind of goes all over the place. But 00:50:34.710 --> 00:50:37.769 I think that's what makes it so enjoyable is 00:50:37.769 --> 00:50:40.489 that you will find something about this movie 00:50:40.489 --> 00:50:43.670 that you like guaranteed. And I definitely when 00:50:43.670 --> 00:50:46.309 I was trying to figure out which movies to license 00:50:46.309 --> 00:50:49.230 from him, you know, I went with Funeral Sinestro 00:50:49.230 --> 00:50:52.750 because obviously it's. its status as being the 00:50:52.750 --> 00:50:54.730 first Colombian horror film but then I also thought 00:50:54.730 --> 00:50:57.670 gotta go for Triangulo de Oro just because it 00:50:57.670 --> 00:51:01.369 has that appeal like it looks exciting and I 00:51:01.369 --> 00:51:03.769 felt like that would be you know a good counterpoint 00:51:03.769 --> 00:51:07.190 to kind of like this to have this slow paced 00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:11.570 brooding horror film next to this more fast paced 00:51:11.570 --> 00:51:15.829 adventure film did he have any input as to what 00:51:15.829 --> 00:51:18.969 or any suggestions of what you should have released 00:51:18.969 --> 00:51:21.130 or was he just like whatever you want i'm all 00:51:21.130 --> 00:51:25.929 game yeah he he he had no he had no suggestions 00:51:25.929 --> 00:51:30.369 um i kind of told him you know what films i would 00:51:30.369 --> 00:51:32.570 i i wanted and he was he was fine with that i 00:51:32.570 --> 00:51:34.369 asked him if he wanted to have any input like 00:51:34.369 --> 00:51:36.849 i was i was down to if he wanted to if he was 00:51:36.849 --> 00:51:38.610 willing to record a commentary i would have done 00:51:38.610 --> 00:51:40.989 that at that you know during that initial conversation 00:51:40.989 --> 00:51:45.530 but he was not interested um yeah and then you 00:51:45.530 --> 00:51:47.769 know And speaking about the special features, 00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:50.849 to go back to that, I also had asked, because 00:51:50.849 --> 00:51:53.289 there was a documentary film made about him in 00:51:53.289 --> 00:51:56.909 2019 by a Colombian filmmaker. And I had asked, 00:51:56.969 --> 00:51:59.369 you know, are you in contact with that guy? Are 00:51:59.369 --> 00:52:01.289 the rights available to that? Because I would 00:52:01.289 --> 00:52:05.030 love to get my hands on that. And him and the 00:52:05.030 --> 00:52:07.570 other guy that worked for that website, they 00:52:07.570 --> 00:52:11.230 gave off the vibe that the person who made that 00:52:11.230 --> 00:52:13.989 film would not be willing to license it to me 00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:16.079 for whatever reason. I never really got... any 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.119 understanding on why that would be but it was 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.519 kind of like the vibe was just like don't pursue 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.139 that um so i never did and i probably wouldn't 00:52:22.139 --> 00:52:24.280 have had the money to get that as well in addition 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.639 to the other two films to the two films um so 00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.840 yeah yeah well maybe that'll be a something down 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.820 the line that you can add or something but it 00:52:33.820 --> 00:52:36.260 does seem strange that the you know you know 00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:38.179 unofficial fan club i guess you could say would 00:52:38.179 --> 00:52:39.599 be like nah you don't want to you don't want 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.659 to mess with that guy or that that project yeah 00:52:42.659 --> 00:52:44.909 i think it's time for you to make your own english 00:52:44.909 --> 00:52:49.090 friendly that would be sick though yeah i could 00:52:49.090 --> 00:52:52.929 see it what um what do you know as far as like 00:52:52.929 --> 00:52:56.050 was this shot on 35 millimeter was it 16 millimeter 00:52:56.050 --> 00:53:00.369 um do you know that and do you know any of that 00:53:00.369 --> 00:53:03.289 information i don't know that information i i 00:53:03.289 --> 00:53:06.130 think it was shot on 16 millimeter it does look 00:53:06.130 --> 00:53:08.429 like 16 yeah well let's let's get into it a little 00:53:08.429 --> 00:53:12.110 bit i mean as you said it was shot in uh in panama 00:53:12.110 --> 00:53:15.469 in panama at the panama canal i i read on that 00:53:15.469 --> 00:53:17.090 same interview that i was reading i guess he 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:19.969 that was like a deliberate thing i guess colombian 00:53:19.969 --> 00:53:22.010 moviegoers didn't want to watch a movie that 00:53:22.010 --> 00:53:25.670 was made in colombia or that was spoken in spanish 00:53:25.670 --> 00:53:29.289 so he went to panama to film it so it had like 00:53:29.289 --> 00:53:32.670 you know a foreign film you know i guess uh vibe 00:53:32.670 --> 00:53:36.369 to it but then i read that it was released dubbed 00:53:36.369 --> 00:53:38.949 in english with spanish subtitles which seems 00:53:38.949 --> 00:53:42.170 i mean that i mean i don't know if that's a a 00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:45.130 thing or you know how true that is i don't know 00:53:45.130 --> 00:53:48.809 if you know if that exists or and i think i saw 00:53:48.809 --> 00:53:50.969 the same article and he had spoken briefly about 00:53:50.969 --> 00:53:55.050 that when we talked over zoom uh and i i don't 00:53:55.050 --> 00:53:57.230 know if it was for triángulo de oro for it was 00:53:57.230 --> 00:53:59.469 for another film that he did later on because 00:53:59.469 --> 00:54:02.539 there's one other film uh, that he did after 00:54:02.539 --> 00:54:04.320 that, that I could have sworn was the one that 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.320 he, he had it dubbed in English. So that way 00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.719 it could appear, um, as an American film. And 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:11.579 then it would be, it would have a more of an 00:54:11.579 --> 00:54:14.059 appeal, kind of like how the Italians would always 00:54:14.059 --> 00:54:16.900 anglicize the names on, on the cast credit. So 00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:18.360 they could sell the movie as being in America. 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:22.739 That would be, that would sell better. Um, so 00:54:22.739 --> 00:54:24.519 I know that he did that. I don't know if that 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.599 was done for a triangle or the auto, but I know 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.320 in his filmography, there is a film that he did 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.809 have dubbed into English. because he thought 00:54:31.809 --> 00:54:34.030 that it would sell better if it was passed off 00:54:34.030 --> 00:54:41.030 as an American product. I guess that's kind of 00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:45.829 the vibe. If the country is not mass -producing 00:54:45.829 --> 00:54:52.769 cinema and the kind of general vibe is the imports 00:54:52.769 --> 00:54:54.489 that we're getting are much more entertaining 00:54:54.489 --> 00:54:56.010 and we don't want to go see it, then of course 00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:58.989 you're going to try any way that you can. to 00:54:58.989 --> 00:55:01.230 get your film in front of your domestic audience. 00:55:01.769 --> 00:55:03.769 So I think that's where that kind of came from. 00:55:04.010 --> 00:55:06.789 Yeah, yeah. And this movie was pretty successful, 00:55:06.889 --> 00:55:10.489 right? Because, you know, again, this is all 00:55:10.489 --> 00:55:12.989 referencing one interview that I read, because 00:55:12.989 --> 00:55:16.289 like I said, there wasn't a lot to go on to find 00:55:16.289 --> 00:55:20.150 more information. But he said that he had a deal 00:55:20.150 --> 00:55:22.449 in place with United Artists to distribute this 00:55:22.449 --> 00:55:26.340 movie. um to foreign markets that's i mean that's 00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:28.119 kind of crazy but i guess that deal fell through 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:33.320 um yeah i think i i think um i feel like i've 00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.519 seen like a newspaper ad for the film that did 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.760 have the united artists logo underneath it so 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.880 i'm not i'm not sure where it played maybe if 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.880 it was it possibly was other countries in south 00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:48.480 america that it that they distributed it um obviously 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.260 i don't think you know like i said it had gotten 00:55:51.260 --> 00:55:53.940 a vhs release in the u .s but i don't think that 00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:56.699 was part of the united artists deal i don't think 00:55:56.699 --> 00:55:58.739 that they were the ones that licensed it out 00:55:58.739 --> 00:56:00.880 to the u .s but i could be wrong about that yeah 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.559 yeah all right well let's let's kind of talk 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.880 about the movie a little bit um i mean this one 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.760 like we said you know it's it's like an action 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.300 movie so um but it also has supernatural i guess 00:56:13.300 --> 00:56:18.719 uh tendencies if you will um It's kind of like 00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:24.639 the main character. What was his name? God damn 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:31.019 it. William, right? No, William was the. Yeah, 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:33.480 the main dude is Jack. There you go, Jack. And 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.400 he's like a big burly dude. You know, he's got 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.719 a bald head. He's got earrings on. I mean, he 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.099 looks like he's straight out of an Indiana Jones 00:56:40.099 --> 00:56:45.409 movie. But I don't know. there was like a part 00:56:45.409 --> 00:56:49.849 of this where it almost felt like they were like, 00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:52.449 they played as flashbacks. And I don't know if 00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:56.789 I just picked up something wrong or am I right 00:56:56.789 --> 00:56:58.929 to say that there were some of these scenes were, 00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:03.289 were flashbacks to things that had already happened. 00:57:04.550 --> 00:57:07.690 Not that I recall. And I could be wrong too, 00:57:07.730 --> 00:57:09.869 because I haven't watched it myself in quite 00:57:09.869 --> 00:57:15.690 some time. It's funny. So during more so for 00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:19.469 Funeral Sinestro, whenever I hear like I would 00:57:19.469 --> 00:57:21.309 hear directors talk about like how they hadn't 00:57:21.309 --> 00:57:23.150 seen their own film in like 20 years, I'd be 00:57:23.150 --> 00:57:24.929 like, I love this film. How could you not have 00:57:24.929 --> 00:57:28.090 watched it like every day? But when you have 00:57:28.090 --> 00:57:29.909 to like sit through the restoration of the film 00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:32.590 and you've seen it like. Like I had to sit through 00:57:32.590 --> 00:57:34.510 Funeral Sinestro so many times that I finally 00:57:34.510 --> 00:57:35.929 I was like, I can't watch it again. I told my 00:57:35.929 --> 00:57:38.969 wife because I had to sit through it to see like 00:57:38.969 --> 00:57:41.550 how every how the progress was going. So I watched 00:57:41.550 --> 00:57:45.170 it numerous, numerous times. And not that I did 00:57:45.170 --> 00:57:47.130 the same thing for Triangulo de Oro, but I have 00:57:47.130 --> 00:57:49.809 watched it quite a bit. But it's been it's been 00:57:49.809 --> 00:57:52.889 a while for me. So I don't recall if there are 00:57:52.889 --> 00:57:55.250 any scenes that were specifically flashbacks. 00:57:55.409 --> 00:57:57.789 There might have been. if i recall yeah they 00:57:57.789 --> 00:57:59.570 were kind of like little flashbacks i guess to 00:57:59.570 --> 00:58:01.849 kind of understand what exactly is going on and 00:58:01.849 --> 00:58:04.210 why are they going over there so it does play 00:58:04.210 --> 00:58:06.030 off like that yeah there was it was like it was 00:58:06.030 --> 00:58:07.690 like somewhere in the middle of the movie where 00:58:07.690 --> 00:58:12.469 jack it almost felt like he was remembering things 00:58:12.469 --> 00:58:15.829 that had already happened but then they played 00:58:15.829 --> 00:58:18.050 out later in the movie so i was i was i was a 00:58:18.050 --> 00:58:20.570 little bit confused like is this entire thing 00:58:20.570 --> 00:58:22.510 a flashback or what the fuck is going on here 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.500 ¿Siempre vas a viajar? Ah, sí. Cuando salga ese 00:58:29.500 --> 00:58:35.500 barco. No creo necesario que arriesgues tu vida 00:58:35.500 --> 00:58:38.460 en esa forma. Tú mismo has comprobado la cantidad 00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:40.579 de embarcaciones que después de pasar por este 00:58:40.579 --> 00:58:45.639 canal han desaparecido misteriosamente. Y tu 00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.940 hija también desapareció. ¿O ya te olvidaste 00:58:48.940 --> 00:58:52.860 de eso? Ahora debes enfrentarte a tu nuevo hogar. 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.000 You're going to sacrifice your life for a treasure 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:02.760 that maybe doesn't exist. I know. But I need 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:06.960 you to take care of my son. Yes, and not only 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.960 Henry, but also my sister, who may be a widow. 00:59:23.789 --> 00:59:26.329 i guess this was his uh his brother -in -law 00:59:26.329 --> 00:59:29.309 um i could have sworn there's a scene like that 00:59:29.309 --> 00:59:30.789 where he's telling him not to go to the island 00:59:30.789 --> 00:59:36.849 um i could be wrong either way the movie just 00:59:36.849 --> 00:59:38.610 yeah it's kind of all over the place that's the 00:59:38.610 --> 00:59:40.710 vibe too it's like it goes all over the place 00:59:40.710 --> 00:59:43.789 there's this flashback going on then they're 00:59:43.789 --> 00:59:46.159 at the island and then you think just they're 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:47.960 after the treasure but then there's these monsters 00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:49.900 yeah the movie's just everywhere it's it's a 00:59:49.900 --> 00:59:52.460 pretty crazy watch for sure so you're gonna be 00:59:52.460 --> 00:59:54.559 like your head's gonna be spinning when you watch 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.619 this movie for sure especially when you hear 00:59:56.619 --> 00:59:59.179 the screech from the actual gold triangle at 00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:02.539 first i thought it was my tv see that was the 01:00:02.539 --> 01:00:04.400 funny part i'm like you know i just moved into 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.199 this new house and i'm like oh hopefully nothing's 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.300 broken and i hear the screeching sound from the 01:00:08.300 --> 01:00:10.559 movie and i'm like oh fuck is this tv broken 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:15.429 and it's like oh no it's the movie That screeching 01:00:15.429 --> 01:00:18.309 sound, oh my fucking God. That was traumatizing. 01:00:18.349 --> 01:00:19.929 I can't even imagine watching it in the theater. 01:00:20.050 --> 01:00:22.809 Imagine in the theater, it's fucking loud. Well, 01:00:22.829 --> 01:00:24.750 you wouldn't be able to escape it in the theater. 01:00:24.750 --> 01:00:26.889 When I was watching it, I had to turn the volume 01:00:26.889 --> 01:00:28.989 down because I was like, oh, I... Because that 01:00:28.989 --> 01:00:31.909 screech plays for like, it feels like 10, 15 01:00:31.909 --> 01:00:33.809 minutes. Okay, we got to play that at the theater. 01:00:34.489 --> 01:00:37.389 I need to see an audience reaction to that screech. 01:00:38.130 --> 01:00:41.750 Because that was just crazy. Anthony, do you 01:00:41.750 --> 01:00:45.369 have rights to screen this theatrically? No, 01:00:45.590 --> 01:00:48.510 but I'm sure that if I asked him, he would give 01:00:48.510 --> 01:00:52.269 me permission. I think he would be down for that, 01:00:52.429 --> 01:00:54.309 especially if I said it was, you know, as part 01:00:54.309 --> 01:00:57.369 of the promotion. But no, my rights are basically 01:00:57.369 --> 01:01:00.070 just for this release. Like, I don't even have 01:01:00.070 --> 01:01:01.889 streaming. And I remember when I was getting 01:01:01.889 --> 01:01:03.429 the restoration, they were like, you don't have 01:01:03.429 --> 01:01:05.210 streaming rights? That's where everything's going. 01:01:05.309 --> 01:01:07.110 That's crazy. You need the streaming rights. 01:01:07.550 --> 01:01:11.420 And I was just like, nobody. I'm thinking the 01:01:11.420 --> 01:01:13.679 audience for this film are people like me, where 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:17.320 it's like, I want to own this. I don't want to 01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.239 stream it. I want to own this physically, and 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.440 I want to hold it in my hand. I don't want it 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:25.920 to be... It's just going to get lost. If it's 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.440 on streaming, it's just going to get lost in 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.000 all the other thumbnails of all the other... 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.300 Exactly. That's what I was going to say. You'll 01:01:32.300 --> 01:01:33.679 know it's there, but then it's like, are you 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.099 ever going to click it, though? But it's like, 01:01:35.139 --> 01:01:36.360 if you have the disc in your hand, you're like, 01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.539 hey, I'm going to probably put this on. and that's 01:01:38.539 --> 01:01:40.380 literally what i did when i first got it i got 01:01:40.380 --> 01:01:42.380 it in the mail i'm like oh let's put it on i 01:01:42.380 --> 01:01:44.639 want to watch it streaming it's like oh add it 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.539 to the queue and then never fucking watch it 01:01:46.539 --> 01:01:49.699 yeah movies like this that don't already have 01:01:49.699 --> 01:01:51.900 like a built -in audience they streaming is where 01:01:51.900 --> 01:01:55.219 they go to die yeah exactly you know without 01:01:55.219 --> 01:01:59.800 without the you know the physical copy people 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:01.900 aren't aren't going to be as willing to watch 01:02:01.900 --> 01:02:04.719 this if they didn't already pay uh you know the 01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.119 price of of getting this blu -ray in you know 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.340 because if it's on streaming like you said thumbnail 01:02:09.340 --> 01:02:12.300 and pass it pass it pass it and then eventually 01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:16.000 the streaming rights uh die and then you have 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.460 no access to it you know so this is a cool release 01:02:19.460 --> 01:02:21.860 too it's like it's quality the slip case is really 01:02:21.860 --> 01:02:24.210 nice And how much was it in total? Like twenty 01:02:24.210 --> 01:02:26.289 some dollars. It's like, come on, when can you 01:02:26.289 --> 01:02:28.110 buy a Blu -ray for like less than thirty dollars 01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:31.789 nowadays? Well, originally it went for sale for 01:02:31.789 --> 01:02:35.250 thirty and for like a month and nobody touched 01:02:35.250 --> 01:02:37.630 it. It also might have been not getting the best 01:02:37.630 --> 01:02:39.650 promotion at the time. But I kind of figured, 01:02:39.710 --> 01:02:41.730 you know, maybe thirty dollars is a lot to ask 01:02:41.730 --> 01:02:44.949 of people at this point in with the economy the 01:02:44.949 --> 01:02:46.809 way it is. And it's a film that nobody has heard 01:02:46.809 --> 01:02:49.210 of. Maybe I got to bring it down to make people 01:02:49.210 --> 01:02:53.519 more willing. to to take the chance on it that's 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.360 kind of what what led to that i mean either way 01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:58.539 though i mean there's people that are paying 01:02:58.539 --> 01:03:01.920 like 60 for a hollywood movie that's on blu -ray 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.840 or 14 it's like nah man there's there's people 01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.699 paying 60 for a movie they've never seen yeah 01:03:07.699 --> 01:03:10.539 so yeah take a chance with this one this is less 01:03:10.539 --> 01:03:12.960 than 30 and it's really nice like i said the 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.099 slip cover art is really nice for both movies 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.739 yes every collector's dream is right here it's 01:03:18.739 --> 01:03:21.079 like you got your slip case that's quality and 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.159 your two crazy ass movies in there that you're 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:27.119 gonna for sure watch you know yeah so when i 01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:29.159 when i got to the point where i was doing the 01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.719 slip cover i reached out to uh jesse nelson the 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.960 guy that runs diabolic dvd and cultural films 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.820 and i was like hey do you where do you go to 01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:39.619 get your stuff done can you give me any leads 01:03:39.619 --> 01:03:41.480 and he was very gracious enough to kind of tell 01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:45.050 me uh you know, some, some people, some vendors 01:03:45.050 --> 01:03:47.130 to use at that point where I was in the process, 01:03:47.170 --> 01:03:49.070 you know, in terms of like, uh, the mastering 01:03:49.070 --> 01:03:51.409 and, and the, the authoring of the disc and whatnot. 01:03:51.710 --> 01:03:54.489 So he was very helpful. And actually when, uh, 01:03:54.630 --> 01:03:57.170 when Diabolic, you know, that was like, it was 01:03:57.170 --> 01:03:59.929 maybe two years ago that I had actually emailed 01:03:59.929 --> 01:04:02.010 him about it. So when the movie came out, he 01:04:02.010 --> 01:04:04.570 emailed me, obviously not remembering that we 01:04:04.570 --> 01:04:07.230 had communicated before asking for, for some 01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:10.809 of some copies of the movie. Uh, and he's in 01:04:10.809 --> 01:04:15.250 like, uh, he's in New Jersey, close to Philadelphia. 01:04:15.250 --> 01:04:16.989 So I was like, I'll just, you know, drive the 01:04:16.989 --> 01:04:19.030 two hours over there and bring you all these 01:04:19.030 --> 01:04:21.329 movies. Cause I also didn't know how to ship 01:04:21.329 --> 01:04:23.389 the amount of movies that he had asked for. Cause 01:04:23.389 --> 01:04:25.710 I only have like the boxes to ship just like, 01:04:25.769 --> 01:04:27.929 cause I said on the website, you know, limit 01:04:27.929 --> 01:04:30.690 of two. per order and i can only ship two because 01:04:30.690 --> 01:04:32.949 i have no idea how to accommodate any larger 01:04:32.949 --> 01:04:35.230 orders than that so i was like i'll just put 01:04:35.230 --> 01:04:36.889 them in a bunch of crates and come down and i 01:04:36.889 --> 01:04:39.429 you know i got to meet him got to take a little 01:04:39.429 --> 01:04:42.869 tour of the diabolic warehouse uh which was really 01:04:42.869 --> 01:04:45.429 awesome and uh yeah hopefully you know sometime 01:04:45.429 --> 01:04:47.710 in the future me and him will talk shop more 01:04:47.710 --> 01:04:49.409 and i can kind of like compare notes like did 01:04:49.409 --> 01:04:52.690 i do this right or how you know how do you as 01:04:52.690 --> 01:04:54.429 somebody who's a bit more experienced in this 01:04:54.429 --> 01:04:56.449 game, I kind of want to pick his, his brain on 01:04:56.449 --> 01:04:58.309 like, how, how do you do this? Did I do things 01:04:58.309 --> 01:05:02.010 the right way? Did I get, should I have done 01:05:02.010 --> 01:05:04.269 it this way? You know, things like that. But 01:05:04.269 --> 01:05:06.590 he was very helpful. For a first release. This 01:05:06.590 --> 01:05:08.070 is awesome. Like I said, I'm holding it in my 01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:09.309 hands and I'm like, this is fucking awesome. 01:05:09.429 --> 01:05:11.050 You would think like another label put this out, 01:05:11.090 --> 01:05:14.389 but no, this is like I said, one man, one man's 01:05:14.389 --> 01:05:17.369 dream. And this is like a fan release basically, 01:05:17.389 --> 01:05:20.469 but a legit one, you know, this is awesome. Yeah. 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.340 um how how has the the the title's been selling 01:05:25.340 --> 01:05:28.420 like are people finally catching wind of it yeah 01:05:28.420 --> 01:05:32.260 no it um it's it's definitely been been selling 01:05:32.260 --> 01:05:34.699 consistently i'll say that uh things have kind 01:05:34.699 --> 01:05:36.199 of slowed down again i got to do a little bit 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.239 more promotion on it i think um one of the uh 01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:42.780 people on instagram like the disconnected uh 01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:44.639 posted about it and that was just like a huge 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.000 boost like whenever somebody posts about it there's 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.019 always like a flurry of sales so those always 01:05:50.019 --> 01:05:52.360 help whenever somebody orders and then you know 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.079 puts a picture up about it then i reach like 01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:58.199 you know a bunch of other people um but no the 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.420 response has been really good it's really great 01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:03.760 um you know one one person on instagram reached 01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.820 out to me and told me how happy they were about 01:06:05.820 --> 01:06:07.380 the release they actually posted something really 01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:10.539 really nice about it um and it was like the kind 01:06:10.539 --> 01:06:12.480 of feedback that I got was like, was what I was 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.139 looking for. Because like I said, I'm always 01:06:15.139 --> 01:06:17.260 on the hunt for something that I haven't seen 01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:20.500 before that kind of scratches that itch. You 01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:23.260 know, I, film is like, is a passport to another, 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:28.079 to other countries, to other times. And to hear 01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.300 that that's what this was for, for somebody else, 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.119 you know, is, is very pleasing. And also I've 01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.320 gotten messages from people that are Colombian 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:38.360 and, you know, were really thankful that that 01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:40.480 i released this that they said that you know 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.619 that they themselves did not know about hiro 01:06:42.619 --> 01:06:44.440 pinilla they're horror fans they're colombian 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.420 they didn't know that this these films existed 01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:50.320 so you know to hear that is is amazing that is 01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.559 awesome yeah you love it especially with me with 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:54.619 the whole trash mic thing the podcast the blog 01:06:54.619 --> 01:06:56.960 people be like yeah you know i live in mexico 01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:58.699 and i never even heard of those movies so you 01:06:58.699 --> 01:07:00.800 know it's awesome i want to know more it's like 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.639 how do you not know it's like what and then of 01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.619 course i i understand later why you know it's 01:07:04.619 --> 01:07:06.420 always because of culture differences and then 01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:08.739 just the lack of access to some of these movies 01:07:08.739 --> 01:07:11.179 i could imagine it's the same for obviously columbia 01:07:11.179 --> 01:07:13.039 as well it's like they only had access to so 01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.219 much and not really know much about this stuff 01:07:15.219 --> 01:07:19.420 until much later on yeah absolutely well hopefully 01:07:19.420 --> 01:07:22.579 it reaches people in columbia um so they can 01:07:22.579 --> 01:07:27.179 you know take part of their own history in cinema. 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:32.400 Because as you said, Armando, watching movies 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:38.599 that are made from and made for your own culture, 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:40.900 there's nothing better than that, really. I mean, 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.820 that's kind of like how you said earlier, Anthony, 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:46.460 is like you kind of learn the language that way 01:07:46.460 --> 01:07:48.280 as well. So, I mean, there's a lot of people 01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:51.480 that don't speak Spanish or that aren't as connected 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:55.710 to their own culture. Maybe it's like the smallest 01:07:55.710 --> 01:07:59.210 way to introduce yourself to your own culture, 01:07:59.250 --> 01:08:03.070 but watching movies is definitely a good gateway 01:08:03.070 --> 01:08:05.489 into learning about yourself and learning your 01:08:05.489 --> 01:08:08.289 own history. And like I said, hopefully, you 01:08:08.289 --> 01:08:10.170 know, people in Colombia can get their hands 01:08:10.170 --> 01:08:12.050 on this. I don't know if you're able to sell 01:08:12.050 --> 01:08:15.690 internationally or not, but hopefully they find 01:08:15.690 --> 01:08:21.130 a way to get these restored and see them in full 01:08:21.130 --> 01:08:24.880 glory, you know. Absolutely. And, you know, that 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:28.340 is, again, going back to that cultural aspect, 01:08:28.619 --> 01:08:34.520 you know, cinema is my language. That is how 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.340 I connect with my culture. And, you know, that's 01:08:37.340 --> 01:08:41.359 not, you know, as you're creating your identities, 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.180 like, so for myself, you know, finding out about 01:08:44.180 --> 01:08:48.279 Dario Argento, Mario Bava, Lucio Fulci, that 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.680 was like a huge part of, you know, my... my teenage 01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:55.220 years, my identity, because being Italian, what 01:08:55.220 --> 01:08:58.079 did that, I didn't know what that meant. I, who 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.039 are supposed to be my, my idols, who was supposed 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:02.180 to be the people I look up to, like Frank Sinatra, 01:09:02.340 --> 01:09:05.039 John Gotti. I like, I don't know who was the 01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:09.420 person that, you know, am I supposed to identify 01:09:09.420 --> 01:09:12.100 with in my culture? And then finding these Italian 01:09:12.100 --> 01:09:15.159 film directors was like opening up this, this 01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:16.979 whole new world for me. And I was like, okay, 01:09:17.020 --> 01:09:19.100 these are my, these are my people. And I think 01:09:19.100 --> 01:09:25.949 that. It certainly helps to see people in your 01:09:25.949 --> 01:09:28.630 own culture doing the things that you love, especially 01:09:28.630 --> 01:09:30.770 if it's not something that's widely accepted. 01:09:31.149 --> 01:09:34.109 I always wish that there was more on the Puerto 01:09:34.109 --> 01:09:38.270 Rican side in terms of genre filmmaking. I struggle 01:09:38.270 --> 01:09:40.229 to see if there's any... you know, Puerto Rican 01:09:40.229 --> 01:09:42.770 horror or science fiction. I do know that there 01:09:42.770 --> 01:09:45.170 was one like a superhero movie that was made 01:09:45.170 --> 01:09:47.770 in the nineties that I I'm kind of interested 01:09:47.770 --> 01:09:50.189 in seeing if I could get that released, but you 01:09:50.189 --> 01:09:52.670 know, there's not a lot of domestic cinema that 01:09:52.670 --> 01:09:54.489 was made in Puerto Rico, but you know, at least 01:09:54.489 --> 01:09:56.930 I had the Italian stuff that kind of hold me 01:09:56.930 --> 01:10:02.890 over. Um, but yeah, no, just, just, it's inspiring. 01:10:03.109 --> 01:10:06.920 It's inspiring to, to have that connection. So 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:08.819 do you plan on releasing any more of Jairus' 01:10:09.060 --> 01:10:11.579 work? Because, I mean, there's a short that I 01:10:11.579 --> 01:10:13.340 really like. I mean, I haven't seen it, but I've 01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:15.199 seen the trailer. It's the La Silla Satanica. 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.600 That trailer was pretty fucking crazy. I'm intrigued. 01:10:19.460 --> 01:10:22.260 It's a short film? Yeah, La Silla Satanica by 01:10:22.260 --> 01:10:25.119 Jairus Pena. It looks like it's only 47 minutes 01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.560 long. I could be wrong, but yeah, it looks pretty 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.140 fucking sick, though. It looks like it was shot 01:10:29.140 --> 01:10:32.659 on tape as well. It's like a possessed wheelchair 01:10:32.659 --> 01:10:34.600 and the little girl's like falling off it or 01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.819 something. I think, I think you need to hit up 01:10:36.819 --> 01:10:40.159 Hiro about it again. Yeah. Well, I would definitely 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:43.260 be interested in, in releasing more of his films. 01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.560 I think whatever my next release is, it's probably 01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.140 not going to be another Hiro Kanija just because 01:10:48.140 --> 01:10:50.600 I don't want to, I would be, because this was 01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:54.260 such an endeavor, especially financially. I don't, 01:10:54.260 --> 01:10:57.039 I wouldn't want to just become the Hiro Kanija 01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.640 guy and just only focus on his films. So definitely 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.680 the next release would probably be something 01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.729 different. You know, I, I named the company Petroglyphs 01:11:06.729 --> 01:11:09.649 just because I wanted it to be kind of undefinable. 01:11:10.689 --> 01:11:13.409 I really didn't know. My focus was just getting 01:11:13.409 --> 01:11:15.569 these two films out. And I do want to continue. 01:11:16.310 --> 01:11:20.710 But what direction I go in, I'm really open to 01:11:20.710 --> 01:11:24.770 anything. A lot of people have just kind of gotten 01:11:24.770 --> 01:11:27.170 the sense that it would be just Latin American 01:11:27.170 --> 01:11:29.930 films. And I'm totally fine with that if I can 01:11:29.930 --> 01:11:33.470 continue in that. But there was never like a 01:11:33.470 --> 01:11:36.229 set plan of like... I'm just going to focus on 01:11:36.229 --> 01:11:42.229 these specific region and genre or anything. 01:11:42.310 --> 01:11:44.329 I was kind of just leaving it kind of wide open 01:11:44.329 --> 01:11:46.810 to see what I could accomplish, what I could 01:11:46.810 --> 01:11:52.350 get my hands on. Yeah. That's kind of understanding. 01:11:52.590 --> 01:11:55.310 Yeah, for sure. But like I said, I think you're 01:11:55.310 --> 01:11:59.130 the man to continue Hyros' work. At least not 01:11:59.130 --> 01:12:01.909 again soon, but later on down the line, I think. 01:12:02.109 --> 01:12:05.300 Yeah. No, I would like to. To take another stab 01:12:05.300 --> 01:12:07.319 at something. I just can't imagine anybody else 01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:09.619 doing it and then giving it the love and admiration. 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:12.640 It's like, yeah, you got to do it again. Next 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.420 release, whatever you have planned, I look forward 01:12:15.420 --> 01:12:17.739 to it. Whatever it is, I don't care what it is, 01:12:17.859 --> 01:12:20.380 but whatever you got planned, I'm on for it. 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:25.880 I can't wait. Anthony, is there anything that 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.439 we didn't talk about today that you would like 01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:30.779 to talk about or that we missed or skipped over 01:12:30.779 --> 01:12:37.500 or anything? Nothing. I mean, we were going to 01:12:37.500 --> 01:12:42.760 talk about the underrepresentation of Latin American 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.239 cinema, I guess, on DVD or Blu -ray as a whole. 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:52.140 Kind of to go into that, I think we're in a better 01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:56.319 place than we were back in the DVD era. Certainly, 01:12:56.380 --> 01:13:01.779 I feel like as there's more boutique labels popping 01:13:01.779 --> 01:13:06.319 up, And as like the major studios are kind of 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:08.039 like divesting from doing their own releases, 01:13:08.100 --> 01:13:10.760 I think we're going to get to a point where certain 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:12.939 labels are going to have to start digging deeper 01:13:12.939 --> 01:13:16.720 and deeper to find, you know, more more films. 01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:19.479 And I think we're going to see I would hope that 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.579 we're going to see a lot more stuff in the future 01:13:21.579 --> 01:13:25.640 from from Latin America. Just on the fact that 01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:29.100 like how many times can we release? What was 01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:34.430 it? you know vinegar syndrome today had uh the 01:13:34.430 --> 01:13:39.510 golden child like i was kind of just yeah yeah 01:13:39.510 --> 01:13:42.449 i know i another reaction you don't have to say 01:13:42.449 --> 01:13:46.449 it i will say though that the golden child is 01:13:46.449 --> 01:13:49.050 definitely one of eddie murphy's best movies 01:13:49.050 --> 01:13:51.470 but i but at the same time yeah i mean how many 01:13:51.470 --> 01:13:53.770 different times do we need to and i guess for 01:13:53.770 --> 01:13:55.789 people that don't own that movie already this 01:13:55.789 --> 01:13:59.920 will probably be the definitive one to get But 01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:03.760 it would be nice to see a catalog expand into 01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:07.000 different territories instead of rehashing the 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:10.399 same movies that are constantly being put out. 01:14:11.020 --> 01:14:13.659 I'm going to take that back. I don't want to 01:14:13.659 --> 01:14:15.680 sound overly negative because I know I was excited 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:20.720 about Congo. Congo was unusual, but it made sense. 01:14:21.289 --> 01:14:24.649 At the same time. Yeah, I get it. You know, I 01:14:24.649 --> 01:14:26.229 don't I don't stand for revisionist history, 01:14:26.289 --> 01:14:28.250 man. Congo was a fucking banger when it came 01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:30.670 out, man. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. 01:14:30.789 --> 01:14:33.770 Oh, yeah. That movie was the shit. I even had 01:14:33.770 --> 01:14:35.550 to watch from Taco Bell and everything. So I 01:14:35.550 --> 01:14:38.810 remember that. But I mean, we've come a long 01:14:38.810 --> 01:14:41.189 way to just thinking specifically kind of about 01:14:41.189 --> 01:14:44.789 Mexican genre films. We've from like the DVD 01:14:44.789 --> 01:14:47.729 era when we had the Casanegra releases to know 01:14:47.729 --> 01:14:52.079 what we have from Indicator. Or the BCI releases 01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:56.560 of the Galindo movies now. Those have all been 01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.979 upgraded in amazing, you know, amazing additions. 01:14:59.899 --> 01:15:01.659 Yeah, we could only hope for more. Because I 01:15:01.659 --> 01:15:03.720 always say there's so much more than just what 01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.279 we're already seeing. It's like there's just 01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.619 so much more. And hopefully, you know, yeah, 01:15:07.659 --> 01:15:09.960 we do get more. And then people start to appreciate, 01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:12.220 you know, Latin America as a whole and films, 01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:14.899 you know. Because I feel like Latin films, like 01:15:14.899 --> 01:15:17.000 especially genre stuff, is still so underlooked, 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.939 you know, so underappreciated. No, sorry. Go 01:15:20.939 --> 01:15:23.319 ahead. No, I mean, I don't mean to cut you off, 01:15:23.340 --> 01:15:24.880 but I was just going to say, I mean, and I know 01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:28.680 this isn't like the greatest thing to, you know, 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:33.300 to be like the standard go -to, but you look 01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:35.399 at like Sight and Sound's top 100, there was, 01:15:35.420 --> 01:15:38.199 I think there was only like six Latin American 01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.899 movies that were listed on that, which is crazy. 01:15:42.430 --> 01:15:46.689 Because, I mean, we're all fans of European horror, 01:15:46.930 --> 01:15:48.829 Euro sleaze. We're all fans of the classics. 01:15:49.229 --> 01:15:51.770 Asian cinema is going through like a crazy revival 01:15:51.770 --> 01:15:54.250 right now. And that's not to say that these movies 01:15:54.250 --> 01:15:57.770 aren't great and don't deserve restoration and 01:15:57.770 --> 01:16:01.810 releases and stuff. But, I mean, the globe is 01:16:01.810 --> 01:16:05.909 huge, man. There's so many different nooks and 01:16:05.909 --> 01:16:09.050 crannies of the world that has cinema that's... 01:16:09.390 --> 01:16:12.369 begging to be released and you know audiences 01:16:12.369 --> 01:16:14.470 that want them you know and that's all we're 01:16:14.470 --> 01:16:16.689 asking for man we're just asking for people to 01:16:16.689 --> 01:16:20.770 expand and and you know maybe it's it's the fact 01:16:20.770 --> 01:16:24.069 that you know the audience isn't there uh financially 01:16:24.069 --> 01:16:26.850 you know people aren't paying to buy it i don't 01:16:26.850 --> 01:16:31.189 know but um these movies are worthy of it you 01:16:31.189 --> 01:16:34.439 know absolutely like i said you guys gotta watch 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:36.300 more mexican movies you guys gotta watch more 01:16:36.300 --> 01:16:39.119 stuff from spain i mean spain's european but 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.840 you know what i mean there's still so much spain 01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:43.859 genre cinema that needs to be seen and then of 01:16:43.859 --> 01:16:45.539 course we got you know colombia here it's like 01:16:45.539 --> 01:16:46.979 man you know who would have thought there was 01:16:46.979 --> 01:16:48.840 some colombian horror films out there you know 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.520 that needed to be seen and here we are with one 01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:54.119 of them you know and then a crazy indiana jones 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.060 knockoff that i would have never known existed 01:16:56.060 --> 01:16:58.579 until right now you know if it wasn't for petroglyph 01:16:58.579 --> 01:17:01.760 media you know yeah that's that's kind of the 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:04.020 point right you know we need someone like anthony 01:17:04.020 --> 01:17:06.939 and petroglyph to be releasing these movies uh 01:17:06.939 --> 01:17:09.699 so that people are aware of them you know you 01:17:09.699 --> 01:17:12.239 know it's hard to say that there's no audience 01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:17.260 for it when um no one is is caring enough to 01:17:17.260 --> 01:17:20.000 to put it out there you know yeah people don't 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.239 know it exists then you know they're not gonna 01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:25.770 we're never like i'm not wouldn't find out if 01:17:25.770 --> 01:17:27.430 there's an audience if they don't know it exists. 01:17:27.529 --> 01:17:30.890 So it has to be put out there. I obviously going 01:17:30.890 --> 01:17:33.409 into the release, I was like worried. Oh my God, 01:17:33.449 --> 01:17:36.409 am I, is this a huge miscalculation? Am I maybe 01:17:36.409 --> 01:17:39.250 the only person that really wanted to see these 01:17:39.250 --> 01:17:42.050 films? Like why hasn't anybody else touched them? 01:17:42.090 --> 01:17:44.649 Did I make a mistake? And certainly in that first 01:17:44.649 --> 01:17:47.449 month when nobody was biting, I was kind of worried. 01:17:49.149 --> 01:17:51.630 Cause then I say to myself, you know, just how 01:17:51.630 --> 01:17:54.439 many people are there that are. just like me 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.920 who want to take the chance who want to you know 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.800 kind of expand their horizons um but no i'm feeling 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.159 very hopeful that that more and more people are 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.939 going to get to see this film and and that that 01:18:07.939 --> 01:18:10.020 will provide me with the means to to continue 01:18:10.020 --> 01:18:16.289 on and to do more The reason why we wanted to 01:18:16.289 --> 01:18:18.329 have you on as well is to give you some exposure 01:18:18.329 --> 01:18:21.430 so that people are starting to learn about this 01:18:21.430 --> 01:18:23.909 and give you an audience because, like we said, 01:18:23.989 --> 01:18:26.789 these movies are fucking fantastic. Horror fans, 01:18:27.010 --> 01:18:31.689 you're going to love Funeral Siniestro. Action 01:18:31.689 --> 01:18:34.210 fans, Hong Kong fans, you guys are going to love 01:18:34.210 --> 01:18:38.350 Triangulo de Oro. There's something for everybody 01:18:38.350 --> 01:18:42.250 on this release. if you haven't bought it yet 01:18:42.250 --> 01:18:44.149 fucking buy it man yeah i don't know how many 01:18:44.149 --> 01:18:46.890 times already since like you know this release 01:18:46.890 --> 01:18:49.109 was like hey have you got this already and then 01:18:49.109 --> 01:18:51.050 i'm like what is it and it's a link to the petroglyph 01:18:51.050 --> 01:18:54.229 media site i'm like uh yeah not yet it looks 01:18:54.229 --> 01:18:56.989 cool and then when i bought it people were still 01:18:56.989 --> 01:18:58.670 asking like yeah it's cool by like what are you 01:18:58.670 --> 01:19:02.750 doing like no don't buy that buy this When I 01:19:02.750 --> 01:19:05.470 posted it on my Letterboxd account, I immediately 01:19:05.470 --> 01:19:08.949 saw five people that follow me added it to their 01:19:08.949 --> 01:19:11.909 watch list. That's all it takes is word of mouth. 01:19:12.409 --> 01:19:14.609 Exactly. So again, if you're listening and if 01:19:14.609 --> 01:19:19.609 you still haven't bought it, buy it. Go to petroglyphmedia 01:19:19.609 --> 01:19:23.869 .com, click add to cart, and Anthony will ship 01:19:23.869 --> 01:19:25.550 it out to you right away. And that's the thing. 01:19:25.689 --> 01:19:27.670 Anthony, you shipped this out really quick too. 01:19:28.590 --> 01:19:31.770 The thing about that is... I was unemployed at 01:19:31.770 --> 01:19:37.109 the time. So far, the losers. You guys are going 01:19:37.109 --> 01:19:40.569 to have to wait a while. No, but you got your 01:19:40.569 --> 01:19:42.949 like your big companies and so forth, you know, 01:19:42.949 --> 01:19:44.510 and then they have delays, you know, whatever 01:19:44.510 --> 01:19:46.590 reason. And it's like, hey, this one guy, he 01:19:46.590 --> 01:19:49.250 shipped it right away. It's already on my doorstep. 01:19:49.430 --> 01:19:51.350 I'm trying to always think from the collector's 01:19:51.350 --> 01:19:53.949 standpoint as myself. What do I enjoy? So that's 01:19:53.949 --> 01:19:55.430 why you might have noticed that movie is like 01:19:55.430 --> 01:19:58.310 wrapped beyond belief in bubble wrap. Yeah, yeah, 01:19:58.310 --> 01:20:00.939 yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. in a box bubble wrapped 01:20:00.939 --> 01:20:03.880 and it came quick like the first time i when 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.079 i shipped out the first package i i handed it 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.439 over to the uh to the postman at the post office 01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:11.319 and just like chucked it behind his back oh my 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.560 god i was like oh my god because he probably 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:15.020 felt like how light it was and thought it was 01:20:15.020 --> 01:20:17.100 nothing i was like oh my god i gotta make sure 01:20:17.100 --> 01:20:19.760 that you know this can withstand anything yeah 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:21.399 you're gonna get that first email motherfucker 01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:23.840 my case was broken i want to i want a refund 01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:26.180 and the slip case is quality you're not gonna 01:20:26.180 --> 01:20:27.960 see no dings either i don't want people being 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:30.100 like oh you came with the ding it's like nah 01:20:30.100 --> 01:20:32.399 mine came out pretty pristine so it's well taken 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:36.300 care of like i said this is this is a disc for 01:20:36.300 --> 01:20:40.119 the fans made by a fan so yeah a lot of love 01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:42.109 right there I try to get the family involved. 01:20:42.390 --> 01:20:44.409 So my son makes it, he'll, he'll make the boxes, 01:20:44.409 --> 01:20:45.909 but I'm like, you can't touch the silk covers. 01:20:45.949 --> 01:20:49.770 He's like, all right. Awesome. Damn. Even the 01:20:49.770 --> 01:20:51.770 family's involved. There we go. Yeah. That's 01:20:51.770 --> 01:20:53.289 how you do it, man. That's how you do it. Awesome. 01:20:53.430 --> 01:20:56.310 Awesome. Well, we're winding down here. So Anthony, 01:20:56.409 --> 01:20:59.130 where can the listeners find you? Shout yourself 01:20:59.130 --> 01:21:01.409 out, you know, link yourself, all your, your 01:21:01.409 --> 01:21:05.529 social media and all that stuff. Yeah. I'm so 01:21:05.529 --> 01:21:07.850 new to social media because I only made an Instagram 01:21:07.850 --> 01:21:10.470 for this account specifically. I think it's at 01:21:10.470 --> 01:21:13.270 petroglyphmedia. I think that's what my handle 01:21:13.270 --> 01:21:15.800 is or whatnot. uh literally i've been trying 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.180 to stay away from social media but this uh this 01:21:18.180 --> 01:21:20.500 is definitely a business that requires uh interaction 01:21:20.500 --> 01:21:24.000 no yeah i hate so you can ask armando before 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.659 we started this podcast i had been off of social 01:21:26.659 --> 01:21:28.539 media for what like three years or something 01:21:28.539 --> 01:21:31.100 yeah and i was like all right i gotta get back 01:21:31.100 --> 01:21:32.460 on it if we're yeah i think around the time i 01:21:32.460 --> 01:21:33.840 started talking to joey he didn't even have instagram 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:36.199 like you know he disabled it or whatever he just 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:38.779 didn't have it it's it's so crucial nowadays 01:21:38.779 --> 01:21:41.380 like and as silly as social media can be and 01:21:41.380 --> 01:21:45.590 is it's just it's so crucial and necessary um 01:21:45.590 --> 01:21:50.449 to promote yourself you know so follow guys petroglyphmedia 01:21:50.449 --> 01:21:55.609 .com um i don't know what else what's left to 01:21:55.609 --> 01:21:58.270 say do you have any plans for the second release 01:21:58.270 --> 01:22:00.770 or you're still like bringing it out or there 01:22:00.770 --> 01:22:03.850 are some films i just don't want to i don't want 01:22:03.850 --> 01:22:05.810 to mention them on the simple fact that god forbid 01:22:05.810 --> 01:22:07.569 somebody else from another label is listening 01:22:07.569 --> 01:22:11.449 and says oh we have let's night but you have 01:22:11.449 --> 01:22:13.850 an idea yeah we'll keep that up there's definitely 01:22:13.850 --> 01:22:17.329 a few films in play that i just gotta do a little 01:22:17.329 --> 01:22:19.010 more digging and find out who owns the rights 01:22:19.010 --> 01:22:21.430 to them and see if i can find elements to them 01:22:21.430 --> 01:22:23.529 but there are definitely i do have plans to continue 01:22:23.529 --> 01:22:27.310 on uh might not you know don't nobody should 01:22:27.310 --> 01:22:30.020 expect you know monthly release announcements 01:22:30.020 --> 01:22:33.500 anytime soon i'm not at that level yet but this 01:22:33.500 --> 01:22:35.300 will not be the last you hear from me i will 01:22:35.300 --> 01:22:39.119 i will not quit like i said whatever it is if 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:43.260 it's a netty murphy movie i'll buy it if it's 01:22:43.260 --> 01:22:47.720 beverly hills cup i'll buy it all right well 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:50.479 you guys have heard it here um petroglyph media 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:54.739 petroglyphmedia .com Funeral Siniestro, Triangulo 01:22:54.739 --> 01:22:58.420 de Oro, two Colombian classics that are waiting 01:22:58.420 --> 01:23:01.979 to be rediscovered by you. So show some support 01:23:01.979 --> 01:23:06.279 and follow by the movies. And yeah, man, hopefully 01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:09.760 people enjoy the episode. Thank you guys for 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:18.109 having me on. Yeah, thank you, Anthony. For now, 01:23:18.250 --> 01:23:22.770 no. I wanted to, I lived happily ever after to 01:23:22.770 --> 01:23:25.489 see the queues, which I still have filmed, queues 01:23:25.489 --> 01:23:27.609 in the theaters for people to see my movies. 01:23:27.689 --> 01:23:30.029 That was my satisfaction, and it will be my satisfaction. 01:23:30.710 --> 01:23:32.630 Maestro, thank you very much for joining us here 01:23:32.630 --> 01:23:34.609 at Cinema 20 .1. What a pity, what a pity that 01:23:34.609 --> 01:23:37.689 I went on. No. Gentlemen of the program, please 01:23:37.689 --> 01:23:42.250 believe in the beyond, believe in the miracles, 01:23:42.529 --> 01:23:46.909 because I saw... in this funeral film, a miracle. 01:23:47.789 --> 01:23:51.930 And whoever says no, I'm sorry, but I'm not going 01:23:51.930 --> 01:23:52.090 back.