Crazy. We actually made it. Some people would
probably give up by now, but we didn't give up.
No, you know, and thankfully, I think the people
were digging it. Yeah, yeah, we've gotten this
far, and it's already been, like, almost a year
later. So, yeah, it's awesome. I'm excited. What
are we talking about today, though? Well, you
know, when we were discussing, like, topics for
the season, we were, like, one of the things
I had hit you up was, like, you know, we got
to do something for the ladies because not only
do we love the ladies. But they play an important
role in Mexico's rich cinema history. Oh, yeah,
absolutely. So we wanted to talk about two women
today. And hopefully this becomes an ongoing
segment that we can do to give back to International
Women's Month. Yeah, that's a good idea. When
you pitched it to me at first, I was like, yeah,
that's a great idea. And then it intertwined
with International Women's Month. hell yeah perfect
it just fits i was like you know what yeah we
got to do this more so it's like this is an ongoing
series so you know not a special type of episode
but it's like it's going to be a theme for future
episodes for sure yeah because i mean i think
when we first talked about it too i had a job
like is there any any women behind the camera
that we can talk about and i know you said there
wasn't really much uh in that part of uh yeah
there isn't really much there's a lot of writers
for sure but not so much behind the camera other
than the one that we're going to talk about today
yeah exactly Yeah, not so much, but there's been
plenty in front of the camera. And, you know,
we all fucking love them. How can you not, right?
Yeah, exactly. So today's episode, we're going
to be talking about two pretty big names. One
of them is going to be Isela Vega, which I'm
sure a lot of listeners probably already know
who she is or have seen her. Internationally.
Yeah, she's an international star. And the second
woman we're going to talk about is Angelica Chayin.
My favorite. Yeah, she's gorgeous. I'm not a
big blonde guy, but yeah. You know, when we get
to her half of the show, I definitely want to
talk about it because in the movie we're talking
about, man, she looks so good in all black, man.
She had like the black wig on and stuff. She
was hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But okay, so let's
get into it, right? What are we calling this?
Las Bellas de Trash Mix, right? Las Bellas de
Trash Mix. So this will be part one and then
part two will come out who knows when later on.
But yeah, it'll be like an ongoing kind of thing
we're going to do. All right, so let's start
running into it, right? So the first woman we're
going to talk about is Isela Vega. And again,
I'm sure most of you already know who she is,
maybe have seen something without even knowing
she was in it. But her name, you know, she's
born Isela Vega Durazo. She was born November
5th, 1939 in Hermosillo, Sonora. You know, I
mean, I guess we can go into her family. Right.
So she's like one of six children of the family.
And I know. Right. Kind of kind of crazy. But,
you know, she kind of grew up, you know, as a
I guess as a working class family. She grew up
on a farm, you know, living living that life,
I guess. And I can't imagine that it's any any
easy to to live a farm life in 1930s Mexico or
actually 1940s when she was growing up. um you
know but she soon began her career in modeling
in the 50s uh i believe she was she won uh she
was she was titled uh miss something right um
yeah i think so yeah she was in a pageant right
yeah god damn it i can't believe i forgot um
but yeah so she won like a you know like the
fucking the the miss whatever in 1957 i think
it was and from there she got her acting career
going in 1960 which her first movie would have
been verano violenta or sorry violento that's
usually how it starts with these actresses they
always start off doing pageants or modeling and
then that's where they get the attention from
producers so this is a perfect example as long
as you look good right yeah we'll put you in
a movie And that she did, but she was more than
just that. Like we said, her first movie is Verano
Violento, which was directed by Alfonso Corona.
I guess it was a smaller role. She played a woman
named Carmen in there. And from there, her career
just kind of blossomed into what we later knew
her for. She began doing music in 1969. She had
her first record, De Mi Departamento, and that
was released on Pure List Records, which is,
you know, it's a Mexican label. A lot of Mexican
releases were put out on that label. I have plenty
45s and stuff. And actually, when I was listening,
I was actually listening to that record on the
way here today just to kind of get in the mood
for her. Have you heard that record? I haven't
now, but I think I know what you're talking about.
It's pretty good. I guess it would be considered
Latin pop for the time, I guess. Kind of cheesecake
-y. Immediately, you put it on and fans of Serge
Gainsbourg would immediately recognize it because
she has a cover of, I don't know how to pronounce
it, Je T 'Aime Mon Plus. I don't know. I'm sure
some French person is going to get mad at me
butchering that. But yeah, so she did a cover
of that. And of course, she had, you know, original
songs. But she also wrote for soundtracks, which
I think the majority of people who know her are
going to know her from Sam Peckinpah's Bring
Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, which she did
a song on there. Benny's song, I believe it's
called. And I think that's where people are probably
going to know her from. Bang, bang, bang, bang.
Great movie, but that's far from being her best
movie, I would say. Yeah, I mean, but that is
like a really iconic movie and very important
for her career. Very important for her career,
yeah. So that came shortly after her first international
role, which was in 1973. That was called Deadly
Trackers, and that was directed by Barry Shearer.
Because I think, so that was 73, and I think
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is 1974,
right? Or is it later than that? I think it is.
I think it's 74. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from then
on, I mean, she became just a huge, iconic, she
was a sex symbol, she was a model, she was the
first Latin woman to... be on the cover of Playboy.
I mean, that's, you know, that's pretty iconic.
And from then on, she just kind of, you know,
she blew up. She started producing in 1980. And
I think people know this movie too, Navajeros,
which is directed by Eloy de la Iglesia, which
Severn put out a really nice version of that
movie on Blu -ray. If you haven't seen that,
highly recommended. You did that one at the festival,
the Trash Max, right? Yeah, fucking amazing movie.
Yeah, it's a Mexican co -production. Mexican
-Spain co -production. They call it the Kinky
movie. Highly recommended. Seek it out. I'm sure
Severin is not sold out on that yet, but go hit
up Jaime or Ethan or whoever is at your local
convention because that movie is a fucking banger.
Oh, yeah. But then that led to her directing
her first movie, which is the movie we're going
to talk about today. 1986, she wrote, directed,
and produced Las Amantes del Señor de la Noche.
Which is Lovers of the Lord of the Night. Fucking
amazing movie. Oh, yeah, that's a great one.
For a first and only directed movie, yeah. Yeah,
if this is your one and only, she fucking nailed
it. It's an amazing movie. But again, she acted
all the way throughout her entire career, really.
She did plenty of novellas. I think her last
screen credit was in 2020, which was a Netflix
show called La Casa de los Flores. which I haven't
actually watched, to be honest with you. A lot
of people always tell me about it. They're like,
you should watch it. I'm like, yeah, sure. I
never did, or it's like I canceled Netflix. But
I know people really love that show for sure.
I mean, yeah, I've read nothing but great things
about it, but it's just I haven't sat down to
actually watch it. I mean, that goes to show
you. So her first movie was in the 60s. Her last
acting credit was 60 years later. I mean, that's
a 60 -year career in entertainment. That's crazy.
Absolutely crazy. She's won plenty of awards.
She has five Ariel Awards under her belt. She
was nominated multiple times. She was nominated
for Las Reglas del Juego. She was nominated for
Traiganme el Cabeza de Alfredo Garcia, which
we just talked about, Bring Me the Head of Alfredo
Garcia, El Jeremias. And her first win was for
Alfredo Ripstein's Love, Yuda Negra. We kind
of mentioned that in Mario Mother. Yeah, we did.
Yeah, yeah. Very important movie for her. A really
bad looking movie for Mario Mother. Which is
ironic. You said that he did not like his role
in that movie, right? He liked it, but it kind
of made him look bad because that movie just
got so controversial. So he kind of just didn't
really want to be part of it after that. It made
him look bad, I guess, in other words. It was
too arthouse for him. Too arthouse and then just
too controversial. He was just like, yeah. But
for her, it was a good thing. She won an award
and people love her for that movie even. It's
a great movie. It is a good movie, oh yeah. But
Mario Mata, like I said, he was just like, no.
That was his thing. In every interview, he's
like, oh yeah, great movie, but yeah, it's a
stain in my career. He's like, give me a gun
and I want to just shoot. I don't want to play
a priest or none of this shit. Yeah, he's like,
yeah, I'm not doing that anymore. She also won
for Herod's Law as a supporting actress. She
won for Fuera del Cielo. And she also won for
Las Horas Contigo. And she also won a Lifetime
Achievement in 2017, which... I remember that,
yeah. Yeah, and thankfully she was alive to receive
that because there's nothing worse than seeing
someone get a lifetime achievement posthumously.
You know, we got to celebrate these people while
they're alive. Especially someone like Gisela
Vega whose contributions were, you know, I mean,
immeasurable. Like we said, she was in entertainment
for 60 fucking years. I mean, that's a long fucking
time. And she worked with a lot of big names.
Huge names. Let's do a little list of some people
that she worked with. She won her first Ariel
in working with Arturo Ripstein. She worked with
Rene Cardona Jr. Who didn't? She worked with
Sam Peckinpah, obviously. Cantinflas, who's a
huge legendary Mexican comedian. Pedro Armendariz.
Legendary. Legendary, yeah. Glenn Ford. Boris
Karloff. Chris Christopherson. She worked with
Mil Mascaras. Mario Almada, of course, like we
just said. Warren Oates. She worked with Emilio
El Indio Fernandez, who, you know. Rumor is he
is the statue, the model of the statue for the
Oscar Awards. I mean, and that's just a small
sample of some legendary names that she worked
with. But that's enough to tell you that, yeah,
she's worked for a long time and worked with
a lot of great people. Exactly, exactly. Very,
very talented actors. And someone of that nature,
it's like you're bound to work with the greats
and the legends of Mexican cinema when you've
been around for that long. to be a woman, no
less, and have, you know, the important roles
that she was able to play. And I know, you know,
people probably think of Isela Vega and just
think, oh, she got naked, you know, whatever,
whatever. She definitely accepted that. You know,
she wore that with pride. She considered herself
a sex symbol. Yeah, just kind of a hippie, too,
in other words. I wouldn't say a hippie, per
se, but she was part of that whole, you know,
counterculture type of style. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
um and you know it served her well and you know
she she basically she had her way like she was
able to to uh um maneuver through her career
the way she wanted to do it and not a lot of
people especially in mexico right uh can say
that we should leave it in there oh i'm gonna
i'm gonna leave it in we're we're next to a uh
uh there's a taquero next door to where we're
recording for a one -year -old's birthday party
so and you know mexican one -year -old birthday
parties go crazy so let's do just a quick little
selected filmography here to give people uh you
know a couple uh of some movies that they could
search out for Isela Vega, right? So Verano Violento,
which was her first role, 1960. Enigma de Muerte,
1969. That's when she worked with Mil Mascaras,
yeah. The Deadly Trackers, which was her first
international role, which led her to her next
role, Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, 1974.
1977, she worked with Arturo Ripstein in La Viuda
Negra. Navajeros, as we just said, in 1980. Las
Amantes del Señor de la Noche, which we're talking
about today. Gente Bien, 1997, was a long -standing
novella in Mexico where she had a recurring role
there. La Ley de Herodes, a .k .a. Herod's Law.
Fuera del Cielo in 2006. uh infierno which is
a fucking classic um if you haven't seen i think
that one's pretty widely available oh yeah you
can watch that anyway yeah so to be vick youtube
probably probably on tv right now um las horas
contigo and then of course her final role casa
de flores in 2020 which was a netflix production
so a lot of good stuff there for everybody too
yeah i i wanted to kind of you know touch on
different, different styles of movies and stuff
that she worked on. So, yeah, I mean, that's
just a quick little background on who Isela Vega
was. And I guess we can, you know, you want to
talk about the next woman or you want to go into
the movie first? Up to you. What do you want
to do? What do you think will work better? Yeah,
let's go into the movie. Yeah, let's go to the
movie. So the movie that we're talking about
is Las Amantes del Señor de la Noche. And, you
know, I, I was lucky enough to see this in theater
at the Academy Museum when Abram Castillo did
Mexico Maleficarum and Armando was there. Yeah.
I even got invited to the closing reception.
Damn. Which I met her daughter, Shaula. Damn.
Oh, Shaula, sorry. Yeah, Shaula. Yeah, I met
Shaula. Everyone introduced me to her. She was,
like, super nice. And then, obviously, when she
was on stage talking about her mom and everything
else, super awesome. Oh, yeah. That was, yeah.
Yeah. She was pretty instrumental in getting
that. Because I don't know if this is ever going
to play again in public. Yeah, from what I understand,
the movie was just hitting, remember, in Churubusco,
you know, the elements and everything. There
was a lot of legal tape around it. But, yeah,
somehow the Academy and then Abraham, they managed
to get the movie restored and then screened it
for his programming. And this movie, when it
screened, I had only seen pictures of it. I had
never seen any clips of it. Yeah, it was one
of those movies that a lot of people knew of
but really never watched just because it was
so hard to get. Especially even now, you can't
really just fucking find a copy because it's
so rare to find on tape. There's no disc. It
used to air on TV, kind of. Not so much. But
even then, it's such an obscurity. So when this
was, you know... playing at the academy it's
like i have to fucking be there yeah yeah exactly
so what's funny is i bought a ticket already
knowing but then abraham's like hey i'm gonna
send you an email for the opening and the closing
reception i was like oh okay so i was like oh
shit i could have just fucking went for free
but yeah he's second hand scalping yeah but yeah
so of course i was like either way i'm gonna
go you know that was like the one that i was
gonna go for sure i gotta see this new restoration
and i need to kind of revisit that movie because
i barely remember much of it too because that
was a thing but yeah So Las Amantes del Señor
de la Noche was written, directed, and produced
by Isela Vega, but also, I guess, co -written
by Hugo Arguelles, who I wasn't really too familiar
with. I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't know.
I don't really know. Maybe he was just brought
in as a writing partner to get certain things
done. I mean, who knows? But it was shot by Angel...
I can't even pronounce this. What is this? Bilbatúa?
Yeah, Bilbatúa. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah,
oh, yeah. Oh, an amazing cinematographer. Crazy,
right? This guy's amazing. Some movies that you
would know him for would be like Perro Callejero,
Muerte o Sangre. Sorry, Muerte o Sangre Fría.
Tiempo de Lobos. Yeah, crazy. Crazy filmography.
And also a fucking stacked cast. Yeah, that's
the crazy part about this movie. They're such
a great cast in this movie. Here's just a couple
of them. So Isela Vega, obviously, she plays
Amparo. We have Emilio Elindio Fernandez, who
plays Don Venustiano. Crazy name. I feel like
if I had a dog, I'd name him Venustiano. That's
a sick -ass name. Elena de Haro, she played Venus.
Irma Serrano, a .k .a. La Tigresa. Super, super
famous woman. That was actually her rival at
one point. remember yeah they were rivals but
then they somehow just became acquainted and
then yeah they ended up and started in this movie
i mean they did another movie before that if
i recall from what i remember is that um she
basically called in a a favor from uh from edema
this is uh he said that i'm talking about basically
like hey you owe you owe me for uh for some past
drama shit and basically told her you're you're
gonna play this fucking role and she said okay
i'll do it And she plays Saurina, which she plays
the witch, I guess you could say, in this movie.
It also has Lilia Prado, who plays Selena, another
Golden Age actress, crazy resume, over 100 screen
credits. It also has Isela's son, Arturo Vasquez.
He plays the love interest of Venus. And then
I believe he does the songs in the movie, too.
Those, like, pop -sounding songs. Oh, does he
really? Yeah, I think those are his music. Because
he's also a singer, yeah. That's sick. And then,
you know, just a little... I guess he's integral,
but not really. Andres Garcia, he plays El Cazador,
who is, like, the... He's, like, the lover, right?
The lover. Of Venus' moment? Yeah, so we'll get
into that in a little bit. Because there was
a point where I thought it was Amparo's love.
So, yeah, we'll get into it, right? um so this
movie is if i can sum it up before we talk about
it is basically a full core movie mashed together
with like a teenage love drama um it really it
kind of plays in two parts where the first half
is more melodrama than than a full core or a
fantasy movie yeah that's what's funny is that
it just starts off like that and then immediately
like you know It starts building up, you're like,
oh shit, where's this going? Then it gets pretty
fucking wild. Yeah, it gets pretty wild. It starts
off with this really sick monologue, which I'll
play a clip for. But, you know, it kind of talks
about paganism against Christianity in the, sorry,
the Christian church in Mexico and stuff. And
I mean, I know I don't have to break down what
paganism is for people, but, you know, really
kind of sets the tone because like you said this
is a a full -core movie that deals with witchcraft
and black magic and spells and all kinds of shit
and um we're just immediately introduced into
that and we're introduced to the two main to
the two main women which would be amparo and
venus where they're talking about you know i
guess it's venus is asking amparo You know, tell
me about my mom. You know, I want to know about
my mom and who she was. And, you know, why did
my dad hate me? You know, the typical single
single child syndrome. Right. My dad hates me,
which I guess he kind of did. I don't know if
he did or not, though. He just seemed kind of
distant from her, if anything. He was very aloof
with with like family dynamics, like wanted her
to marry her cousin and basically just didn't
treat her as. as his own child really just like
a product basically that's what it was he just
treated her like you know like hey you have to
do this that's it and i'm sure that stems from
the the love triangle that we'll talk about in
a little bit because you know you know venus's
mom ended up into a into a love triangle with
el cazador and amparo but um I don't know. He's
like, she's asking her about, you know, mom,
tell me or tell me about my mom and the owl that,
you know, that was constantly showing up. And
of course, owls are seen as, you know, spiritual
guides or wisdom in, you know, black magic and
witchcraft and stuff. So I feel like every time
you see an owl in this movie, it's always with
intent is probably the ghost of Venus's mom popping
up and be like, yeah, I'm watching you. Yeah,
good call. Cuéntame de mi mamá. Ay, otra vez.
Cuéntame cuándo se murió y qué cantó la lechuza.
Pues tenías como un mes de nacida y empezaron
a pasar cosas muy extrañas en la casa. La lechuza
y luego el perro anduvo escarbe y escarbe por
toda la casa. No, si los animales ven y oyen
cosas que nosotros no vemos ni oímos. ¿Y por
qué dicen que mi papá la mató? ¿Porque tenía
un amante? Esas son cosas que te decían en la
escuela para hacerte llorar. And then, of course,
you know, no good love story has a clean love,
right? So, Venus and Pedro, who is her love interest,
played by Isela's son, you know, his mom fucking
hates Venus. Yeah, literally immediately when
we meet the mom, she's just like, you know, she's
showing her distaste for her. She's low class.
Yeah, it's kind of like a social. drama right
because it's like obviously uh pedro's mancelina
feels that pedro's way too good for for venues
you know she's like this byproduct of probably
uh an affair child you know um so she really
treats her like shit which is you know she gets
what she's kind of what she's asking for later
but it's kind of fucked up and you know she she
wants to send pedro to new orleans to go to school
to some prestigious school. I didn't even, I
couldn't even catch it. I couldn't, the copy
we watched was kind of crappy, so I couldn't
really hear. But I remember, yeah, the New Orleans,
that's so random. But, you know, it made me think,
like, why New Orleans? Was that, was that like
a purpose, a purposeful, like, location because
New Orleans is like, you know, known for its
voodooism and shit like that? Or was it just
some random, fuck it, I know what New Orleans
is. Let's listen to New Orleans. Don't get so
excited, son. You're not in the age to think
seriously. Your studies are the first thing that
come to mind. Is everything okay? I just spoke
to my brother Alexis. The Loyola University is
very exclusive. Not everyone is accepted there.
Thanks to the fact that my brother Alexis has
made an exception with us because he belongs
to your father's family, it's an opportunity
that you won't get to see again, my son. Listen
to me. Yeah, because he goes to New Orleans and
he becomes susceptible to all the spells and
fucking sorcery that they put on him. Yeah. I
don't know. For sure. It kind of intertwines
from there, you know. Yeah, this is all set -up
stuff, too. This is all in the first 10 minutes
of the movie. You know, Vanus, of course. She
finally realizes that Pedro is no longer going
to be with her because he's going to move. And
Pedro, you know, typical asshole fashion is like,
yeah, you know, it's only a year. I'll come back.
Like, you know, it's no big deal. And, of course,
he doesn't come back. They never do. They never
do, right? He, oh, I'll send you love letters
and I'll call you. And, no, we learn that he
ends up with another Jaina. As always. That's
the way it goes. But, you know, one of the things
about this movie that I, you know, it really
paints El Indio as, like, a fragile, dying man,
which you normally wouldn't, you wouldn't see
him in this type of role. Like, he's normally,
like, a fucking, you know, machismo. Yeah, very
serious and always just, you know, he's in action,
I guess, in other words. Yeah. Here, he's just,
he's always just sitting. or in bed like yeah
or he's just like blankets yeah there we go like
he's sitting or he's just in bed like he's not
really doing anything he's already old which
is you know to say he was already in real life
oh yeah for sure so i think that's another part
of the reason why why he was like fuck it i'll
play that role but i'm not gonna get up you get
me for this wimpy role but i'm gonna be in bed
the whole time you can um but he really does
have kind of like a weak character because you
know you know, when we're introduced to him,
he's, you know, he learns that he's sick, whatever,
Amparo is his caretaker, and he keeps asking
her, like, you know, what was the deal with this
fucking man, and my wife, I know she was having
an affair, and Amparo keeps trying to play it
down, like, no, he was, he was my lover, you
know, he loved me, he didn't love your wife,
and I mean, obviously, I mean, there's no, there's
no real subtext there, it's obvious that his
uh his disdain for you know venus his daughter
is is spawned from that when he caught his wife
having an affair with the uh with another man
right um and you know there's there's a really
cool sequence there where um when he's asking
about about the hunter um that's when we kind
of you know you start to to see like the um Amparo's
I guess mind kind of twirling there because at
this point we don't really know who El Cazador
is like we don't know if he really was you know
his or sorry her her love interest was he actually
having an affair with Don Venustiano's wife but
he fucking kills him he's like fuck you I'm gonna
I'm gonna kill her and this fool and Yeah, I
don't know, man. It was... That scene was kind
of sick, actually. Like, he just... He walks
up and just fucking... Charles Bronson style.
Just... Just starts blasting and shit. Um...
And then, uh... Of course, right after that,
Amparo goes through like a, I guess like a ritual.
And this is a vegans beware. There's a live chicken
that gets fucking murdered in this movie. Right
in front of you. I completely forgot about that
when I was watching it the other day. I was like,
oh, shit. I remember at the academy, everybody
was just like, oh. Everybody was terrified. I
was just like, it was like funny because the
lady cuts it, right? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, that
one lady. And then she cuts it. And I remember
she's just laughing and then the blood spattering.
Yeah, she fucking. chops off the chicken's head,
just grabs it and starts pouring all the blood
all over Isla Vega and they're like smearing
it all over themselves. Yeah, I remember that
kind of people were like, oh, what? Some people
were kind of laughing, kind of not wanting to
laugh. I was just fucking cracking up because
that was perfect. This is what I wanted to see.
That's what I thought it was going to be the
whole time. Like, I wanted to see like black
magic crazy shit, but it doesn't really get that
crazy until about the 40 minute mark. This was
like the, so this scene where the help chops
off the chicken's head is, uh what kind it was
plays as the transition between teenage love
melodrama and fantasy folk horror because um
you know for those who know uh you know it's
kind of tradition or not tradition but superstition
in mexico chopping off the head of a black chicken
and using his blood is kind of like a uh like
a cleansing or like a transition period um which
obviously from then umpato kind of um you know
she takes venus under her wing and introduces
her to saurina who was the uh the witch of the
town and really sets the tone for the second
half oh yeah um this is like basically the tigresos
movie right here yeah yeah as soon as yeah when
she when she when she finally shows up on screen
it's like i mean she commands like the the the
movie like It's no nonsense. She doesn't fuck
around. Basically gives Venus the spells and
the rituals to do to get Pedro to come back and
be her love slave. Not even just to come back
and be in love with her, but to be her love slave.
He has no say in this. But, you know, she does
it. And, of course, being a teenager. You don't
really pay attention or you don't really care.
You just want what you want. So she completely
fucks up the ritual. Oh, yeah, of course. No
hay peor miedo que el miedo mismo. Pero a veces
la fuerza del mal es lo mejor que uno tiene.
Platícame. Estoy muy confundida. Por culpa del
hombre que tú quieres. Sí, sé que me ama. Estoy
segura de ello. Bueno, no es cierto. Mejor dicho,
he venido para que usted me asegure que va a
volver. Pues si haces lo que yo te ordene, el
hombre que tú quieras te servirá de esclavo.
Solo me interesa uno. ¿Y no te corresponde? Sí,
pero se fue hoy y tengo miedo de que me olvide.
Quiero que regrese. Piénsalo bien. ¿De veras
quieres que regrese? Sí. Es tu amor mayor que
tu miedo. Mi único miedo es que no regrese. Toma,
güey. Tal vez tengas que hacer cosas que te asombren
o no te gusten. Pero si quieres que él vuelva.
Haré lo que sea. Ahí donde dice señor de la noche,
lee, que yo te oiga. ¿Cómo se llama él? Pedro.
No, yo me llamo Venus por Venustiana, como mi
papá. Ven, hostiana. Vaya nombrecito. Lee, lee,
lee. Que yo te oiga. Fuerte la invocación. Señor
de la noche, haz que Pedro venga donde yo me
encuentro. Pedro, ¿dónde estás que no te veo?
No me envías mensajeros. Enviarlos quiero con
tres libres pacientes, tres cerdos corrientes
y tres diablos de los más sapientes, para que
te digan de mis males y te cuenten de mis bienes.
Y te corten el taco. Y el vaso y la vena del
espinazo. De la cuerda cañonera siete diablos
te tiran de ella. Que te traben y te tengan sin
dejarte reposar. Hasta que te vengas conmigo
a cazar. Sigue, sigue. ¿Por qué paras? Los conjuros
hay que hacerlos. Con fe. O si no quieres que
él vuelva. Sigue. Barrabás. Satanás. Del Cebu
y Lucifer. Venid y llamad a las siete capitanías
de los diablos y enviad al diablo Cojuelo para
que me traiga a Pedro. Ahora repite conmigo.
En nombre de Belial, Astaroth y Lucifer. En nombre
de Belial, Astaroth y Lucifer. En nombre de Adonai.
En nombre de Adonai. Que del corazón de Pedro
entre. Que en el corazón de Pedro entréis. Y
sangre, fuego y tierra le deis. Y guerra y sangre
y fuego le deis. Para que no pueda parar hasta
que me venga a buscar. Para que no pueda parar
hasta que me venga a buscar. ¿Tienes fe en mí?
Este conjuro lo vas a repetir diario trece días.
Cuando no se escuchen las campanas, las campanas
rompen los conjuros. Por eso los cristianos se
pasan la vida tocando campanas. No, llévatelo.
Apréndetelo de memoria hasta que lo digas sin
titubear. Solo así te escucharán quienes te deben
de escuchar. ¿Y luego? Primero haz los trece
días y luego regresas a verme. Take this and
keep it close to you when you make your invocations.
Wrap it around this. Take it. Take that money.
I don't care. Not hers. Let's go. Thank you,
Sabrina. and then that's when yeah shit really
shit really goes crazy right then and there you
know like uh saudina's house is all decked out
and i guess there's another in that scene too
um there's like owls and frogs all over the place
again and i'm sure it was probably venus's mom
like you know stay away from this lady maybe
she has a history with her what i'm pretty sure
amparo had a history with her too because i mean
amparo obviously already knew her and um knew
that Saurina would be able to, I guess, bring
Pedro back to her life. That's a good call, yeah.
I didn't think about that before. When I was
watching it, it made me think, I wonder if Amparo
at some point had gone to Saurina to cast a spell
on El Cazador, the lover, and either it didn't
work or maybe she didn't go through with it.
I don't know. um but there's a really good scene
there where um venus is is like uh you know it's
late at night she had gone through her rituals
and i don't i don't know if she's like half asleep
or she's in asleep but it's like a dream sequence
where she thinks she's having sex with pedro
but it ends up being i guess like a uh like an
incantation of the devil right like it's like
yeah But then it turns out it's, what was it,
the gardener? I thought it was her cousin, right?
Yeah, oh, there we go. Her cousin, Abed. Her
cousin, yeah. Who, of course, her dad wanted
her to marry. And so there was already, like,
you know, family drama there, right? Because
a la prima se arrima, you know, in Mexico. And
she fucking stabbed this fool and killed him.
But I don't know. I mean. The scene is so dark
and I watched it on a Russian bootleg. So I couldn't
really tell what exactly what was happening.
But I mean, for what I figure was that she fucking
was trying to kill. The devil. Yeah, but it's
not. But it's not the devil. And it ends up being
the cousin who was assaulting her. And that's
exactly he was trying to. Well, I don't know
if he ever really assaulted. He was trying to.
Because when Don Venustiano told him, like, yeah,
you know, I want you to marry my daughter and,
you know, you guys will take over the terrenos
and all that shit. So he was trying to. She wanted
no part of it. But I don't know if he ever actually,
you know, physically did anything with her. At
least not that I saw in the copy that I saw.
And then from there, you know, the fucking town
basically revolts against her. They fucking,
they want to lynch her. They go up to the house
after Venustiano dies. They want to fucking,
you know, they want to kill her, but Amparo basically
sacrifices herself and calls upon the lord of
the night, you know, Satanas, to... to basically
take her instead of Venus so that Venus can continue
to live. Que me tome a mí. Que me tome a mí.
To me, it almost seemed like she did that because
she finally realized the cazador didn't love
her. The house, she had no say in it. When Venustiano
died, he basically left her out of the will.
She got absolutely nothing. She kind of just
wasted her life raising this girl. Yeah, and
it wasn't even her daughter to raise. So it's
kind of like, fuck it, I need to just go. So
it was really sad, but it's also really gruesome.
Yeah, I remember that. Spoiler alert, they fucking
hack Isela Vega into pieces. You see her arms,
her legs, her head, she was decapitated. And
the whole time, Venus is on a tree watching this,
and there's an owl watching Venus at the same
time. So again, the owl plays a big part, and
I'm sure it was her mom. But kind of cut in between
that, you see a guy coming up on a horse. Now,
I originally thought that, oh, maybe this is
the fucking devil coming to claim Amparo's body.
It ends up being fucking Pedro. The fucking spell
finally worked. Yeah, he came back. But he came
back as a punker. He's like an all black. His
hair is, like, kind of fixed up. But that ending
was weird because, remember, I told you this
earlier before we recorded. It's like, I think
this ending is different than the Academy one.
I feel like it is because I didn't remember this
ending, but I couldn't find another version.
Because everything was the same ending, which
was, you know, with him, but then he had, like,
the makeup on. But the Academy, remember, it
just ends with him. They show him. And then the
credits are rolling with his song playing. Yeah,
exactly. But this one has, like, the whole, like,
came there, but then he has, like, that whole
makeup shit on. Yeah, yeah. I was like, wait,
I don't remember this. He had, like, his Ziggy
Stardust makeup on. He looked like a punker.
That totally threw me off. I was like, wait,
what in the hell? I don't remember this from
the Academy. So, I don't know. I guess there's
two endings. I mean, the mystery continues. Yeah,
they end the same, but it's just like, yeah,
the appearance was different. Yeah, it was different.
Hopefully, this movie can get released eventually.
I feel like this would be a great Severin release
for another addition to their full horror box
sets. Yeah, I'm surprised it wasn't. See, I kept
thinking that was probably going to be one of
them one day, but so far, nothing. I don't know.
I don't know. Hopefully, we can talk to David
and be like, hey, man, you got to go after this
movie. Who even knows if this movie is available
to license? If the Academy had to go through
hoops to fucking play this movie, then who knows
how easy it would be to release it. That could
be the situation. Arturo might be involved. Wink,
wink. I think I told you the drama, Joey. We'll
keep that off the airways. Hopefully this gets
released because this really is an amazing movie.
I really think that... If more people saw it,
people would fucking dig it for sure. Oh, absolutely.
That would become a new favorite for sure. Yeah,
I think people really would dig it because it
does play two... It's like two different movies
in one. You got the teenage melodrama, as we
said. Granted, the horror doesn't really start
until halfway through the movie, but that doesn't
matter because it really does take a hold of...
And it really does... It really does draw and
lean on the drama aspect and why we even care
about these characters to begin with. Yeah, but
it builds up really good and a good story and
very graphic too. Surprising. I didn't realize,
I didn't remember it being that graphic. Yeah,
but no, it's pretty crazy. I went back and I
was like, I don't know when I... First saw it,
I went to my letterbox and I was like, why did
I say this was a black comedy on my letterbox?
I must have seen something that made me laugh
internally and thought, oh, this is hilarious.
Well, that was the funny part because remember
when Abraham was talking to Shaola, the daughter,
she was like, yeah, there's a lot of dark humor
in there and this is like humor my mom was into.
So it's like, okay, I kind of see why. But it's
not very appropriate humor. So I kind of understand
what she was saying because there are certain
scenes where it's like. It's not going to catch
people's, you know, right away. It's going to
be like, oh, I think that was supposed to be
funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I kind of caught
that, yeah, on some scenes at least. especially
the chicken scene it's like it's not supposed
to be funny because you know she's supposed to
be doing a retro but then it's like it's kind
of funny just the way it builds up and everything
it's kind of shocking so it's like yeah dark
humor and i feel like the the humor comes from
like the side character in this in this movie
like you know the help when she chops off yeah
it's not mostly the the main cast it's just like
the people on the side like even elindia like
even his character's kind of just like it's not
he's not funny but it's just like he's just ridiculous
yeah yeah this old man that's just like whatever
I have to have my own way, you know. And then
he fucking, I mean, he basically sold out to
the enemy. He ends up selling the house to Selena's
family, right? And, of course, Selena's like,
oh, we didn't even talk about that when Selena
died. There's like a scene where Venus goes to
Saurina by herself and she gets a voodoo doll.
oh and she's like you know you attack it like
this and so she's stabbing it and then the next
scene uh selena who's been a bitch to to venus
the whole movie is like standing on a stool or
some shit and she like trips and fucking gets
impaled pretty nasty too actually it's pretty
there's there's like blood and shit like yeah
oh yeah horror fans are gonna love that part
yeah yeah she got what she deserved because she
was a complete literally the minute we see this
woman she's already hating on her and it's like
damn fuck this Sorry, guys. This is an episode
for the ladies, but we're going to say... But
she was a really bad person for sure. I think
that justifies the word, but yeah. No, yeah,
she absolutely was. She was a horrible person.
Did not give a fuck about anything other than
her own prestige, which who knows if she even
had any prestige. I mean, she worked at a veterinarian
clinic or some shit. But yeah, she was savage.
She got what she fucking deserved. Amparo, on
the other hand, she didn't. She went out, you
know, sacrificing herself. Yeah, that part was
like, man, I feel bad for this woman. I found
it interesting, too, that this was shot in Michoacan.
I've never been to Michoacan, so I didn't know.
Oh, yeah, me too, actually. Like, I knew it was
filmed there, but I was like, oh, I don't recognize
this, like, kind of part of Michoacan, at least,
because it's all wooded area. Yeah, yeah. But
it was still really nice to look at the beautiful
scenery and everything. in Sahuayo and Jiquilpan,
Michoacan. Never been, never heard of them. I've
never been to them. But I know of them, but yeah,
it's mostly a wooded area. And then, you know,
I was trying to look into Producciones Cinematográficas
Fénix, because that's the production house that
put this together. But, I mean, as far as I can
see, this was the only movie that had them attached
to it. So, I don't know. Do you know anything
about that? Was that, like, her production house?
That was probably hers, yeah, I would think.
Because I couldn't find anything either. So,
more than likely, that's just hers. That's usually
how it goes with these production companies.
Like, when you see these names, it's just something
that they made up, basically. So, that was probably
hers, more than likely. Probably. I mean, seeing
that it was her only, like... director credit
this is probably just fucking and then i remember
in the academy abraham was like yeah so you know
he did this movie and that was it that was she
was after she was done that was it for her she
said i'm not doing that anymore i mean i can't
imagine that writing directing and producing
a movie yeah she did a lot yeah that's crazy
she did this all on her own but it's a good one
oh yeah that was the thing that's like she's
never made a whole movie by herself like that
and then for it to turn out like this that's
great And if I remember, if I recall from, you
know, when Abraham was doing the like the introduction
keynote for this movie, he said that this spawned
because of, you know, the lack of trust that
she got in previous productions. Right. Like
where she felt like people weren't really like
giving her authority or listening to her. Yeah.
Especially her being a woman. It's like, well,
why do we need to listen to you? You know. Yeah,
so she's like, fuck these, I'm going to do them
by myself. So she did it herself, yeah. And she
did a great job. Well, hopefully it'll get released,
like we said. Severin, I'm looking at you. Severin,
Indicator. Actually, Indicator would be a really
good release for this as well. Either one, whatever.
But cross your fingers, guys. And if not, if
you guys want to watch a horrible copy online,
it's out there. Yeah, or if you have like...
I don't know. If you come across the VHS, which
was released on, you sell a Vega video. She had
a video label at the time. I remember it was
two episodes ago. I think you were talking about,
she had her own video. Yeah. And that was one
of the movies that she put out, but it's super
hard to find. And then when it is for sale, people
of course want to flip it for a lot. And it's
like, yeah, I'm not spending $200 on a tape right
now. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, look, I always
say this is one of those type of movies where
I would only spend that money because it doesn't
exist on any other format. That is one of them.
And I'm sure that the tape looks a lot better
than the crappy version I saw online. Yeah, unfortunately.
But, I mean, at least it's there. On ok .ru,
R -U, whatever you want to call it. you know
those damn russians man they uh all right well
uh hopefully we sum that up good enough for for
people and they want to seek it out but let's
uh let's move on to the next woman and i'm gonna
let armando take control of this one um who are
we talking about next talking about angelica
chayeen the blonde bombshell from the 70s and
80s and kind of the 90s but mostly the 70s and
80s for sure 80s for sure that's like her main
her big her biggest uh era yeah her biggest era
for sure yeah so angelica chain was born on may
24th 1956 in orizaba vera cruz have you ever
been over there i have not been to vera cruz
no beautiful country i mean beautiful state half
so she's half mexican half lebanese her father's
lebanese and her mother's mexican she started
off modeling for photo novellas when she was
a teenager for those who don't know what a photo
novella is it's basically like a A photographic
novel or comic book, whatever you want to call
it. So she was really young when she was doing
that. Was it like graphic novels? Yeah, kind
of like that. Yeah, and it's just like pictures
of them, you know, and then they put the little
bubbles there. So she was doing stuff like that.
She was a teenager. She wasn't even 18 yet. She
was 17 when she did her first movie, which was
El Santo Blue Demon versus Dr. Frankenstein.
Banger. It's a great one, yeah. I'm surprised
how young she was. That's kind of crazy to be
your first movie. You're working with Santo and
Blue Demon. Yeah, and at 17 to top it off. She
wasn't even 18 yet. Like, she was still really
young. And, yeah, so 58 acting credits and all
of them mostly being just these sex comedies.
Yeah, the Fichetta. Literally all of them. She
was in all the fucking Fichetta movies. All the
classics, at least. Oh, yeah, all the main ones.
And then she was known for dancing, so she did
a little bit of a dancing, you know, during the
clubs. And then she's known for her figure, of
course. Beautiful body, you know, everywhere.
You know already. You don't have to explain it
to me. She has a beautiful body. And then, of
course, her blonde hair. But she dyed her blonde
hair, of course. She's not a natural blonde.
What was her natural color? I believe it's just
like, yeah, she has a brunette. Like a brunette
or something? I believe so, yeah. But she's always
been known as being a blonde. And she's, I think
from what I recall, she still does dye it blonde.
Even in her old age, she still dyes it blonde.
Yeah, I saw one picture of her online, I guess
that popped up like a couple years ago. It was
like the only picture that people have seen,
you know, in the last however many years. And
yeah, she had blonde hair. She had blonde hair
and it still died. You can tell right away. No
way, she still has that blonde hair, but even
then, but yeah. So that's what she's known for
is being the blonde, you know, blonde haired,
you know, woman. And she looks great, you know,
I mean. I'm not a blonde guy, you know. I like
my brunettes, you know. Shout out to the brunettes.
What's up? Some of these blondes, you know, they
catch your eye right away, and Angelica Chang
was one of them. I remember even as a kid, I
was like, wow. Like, oh, wow. We'll talk about
it when we talk about the movie, but she had
like a black, I love long, black, wavy hair.
That's like, I love that. Yeah, she's not always
a blonde in some movies, but yeah, we'll get
to that in a moment. And, yeah, so and then,
of course, you know, her being part of the sex
comedy eras from the 70s and 80s, she worked
with Victor Manuel El Guero Castro. He was an
actor. He was a director, a writer, a producer
for these kind of movies. And, of course, he
worked with the producer Guillermo Calderon,
which we all know as the godfather of, like,
the rumberas and the sex comedies, like the ficheras.
She worked with, of course, Rene Cardona and
Rene Cardona Jr. And then, yeah. And, of course,
you know, our homie, Adolfo Martinez -Sodares.
Oh, of course, yeah. Shout out to Adolfo. So
that's who she worked with a lot. She was an
exclusive actress for Frontera Films for many,
many years. But, of course, she still worked
with other producers, of course. and so did they
do did they contract uh uh i was about to say
artists uh actors and stuff kind of like how
yeah back in the day they used to do that yeah
so like her she was one of their exclusive actors
and then alfonso sayas was whom by the way she
actually dated in real life yeah lucky yeah she
was with him for quite a while and yeah they
broke up but you know they still worked together
and they were still cool you know i think even
when alfonso died She actually went to his funeral
and everything. I think the picture that I saw
is when is I think that was like around that
time. Yeah. At least that's from the article
that I read. It was like around that time is
when people started asking, what the fuck happened
to Angelica Jane? And, you know, that picture.
Not a lot of people see her anymore, really talk
about her. But when he died, yeah, they had the
service. And she popped up and kind of surprised
people. It's like, well, what the fuck? I mean,
yeah, she literally just disappeared from the
face of the earth. But there's a reason why,
of course. So let's get into it. So, of course,
you know, 80s, you know, she's everywhere. And
in the 90s, she meets a Pepsi mogul and a hotel
mogul by the name of Enrique Molina Sobrino.
And so the rumor is that he was really jealous
and everything. So he, like, you know, married
her, obviously, told her to retire. He didn't
want her to be in movies anymore, getting naked.
It's amazing how a guy will objectify a woman
and be like, I don't want you to do that no more.
I love you. Get married to me only. Yeah, basically.
Fuck you, man. He's very jealous. Yeah, he told
her, just retire. Of course, him being wealthy,
he's like, she doesn't have to work anymore.
Yeah, that helps. And then one rumor I heard
that he wanted a lot of her movies destroyed,
or at least parts of the movies destroyed. He
didn't want nobody to see that stuff anymore.
Oh, my God. But, of course, that never happened.
Thank God. But that was something that he, I
guess, was trying to do at one point was get
rid of her movies or her scenes at least. Oh,
my God. Can you imagine if he would have done
that? We would have lost on so much. I know.
That's why I was a little scared when I read
about that. I was like, oh, what? That's not
like he doesn't have the money to be able to
do that. The dude is a fucking billionaire. Yeah,
exactly. So I was like, oh, wow. This guy's pretty
intense. But, hey, I guess he really loves her.
Or he bought her. I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah, they've been married ever since. Yeah,
I think, what, 91? Yeah, I think 91 was her final
credit. And then she just completely vanished.
And that was around the time she even got married.
And, well, let's see. Some selected filmography
I picked out, like, you know, movies of her that
she's in and that I think people should see are
obviously her first movie, Santi Blurima with
Dr. Frankenstein. the sales that was one that
you pointed out i see yeah i don't know did you
see that one you know it's it's kind of a hard
movie to watch it is yeah when i got a copy of
them i was excited oh finally i can watch this
fucking movie i was like yeah but i remember
in the movie though for sure yeah that's a good
one sex on the reason of course you know I'm
glad you pointed that one out. I forgot to point
that one out. She's beautiful in that movie.
Oh, wow. My goodness. Was that her first movie
with Frontera Films? Yeah, that was her first
film with Frontera Films. And then Dia de los
Albañiles, of course, which we talked about in
the last episode. Ratas de la Ciudad. Yeah, that
was probably my first time when I saw her, actually,
too. Like, it was that movie, of course. Ratas
de la Ciudad? Yeah, I was like, oh, she's really
pretty. And she caught my eye because she's blonde.
And then, like, she only does one nude scene.
And, of course, the nude scene that I saw as
a kid, you know, they blocked. And I was like,
oh, man. Amardo went straight to Pornhub. Ratas
de la Ciudad. This is before the online porn,
so you couldn't find it. So you had to kind of
just be like, man. Hopefully you find it eventually.
Yeah. Verduleros, yeah. And then Hembras de Tierra
Caliente, which was one of her last movies. La
Tentacion with Enrique Gomez Vallejo. Have you
seen that one, Joey? I have not seen that one.
You need to fucking see it. I'm going to have
to send you that. Yeah, you got to send me that
one. I definitely want to watch it. I don't know
if that's her last or if Hembras was her last,
but either one, those are great ones. Her final
films are great. Is it a sex comedy? Dentación
is like a drama. Some people like to describe
it as like a pingu kind of type of film, where
it's really violent and pretty intense. Yeah,
and this one, she plays a woman that wins the
lottery, and then she gets control of these guys.
She has them working for her, and then they get
tired of her being a bitch to them. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Being an evil woman to them, you know?
So they all band together. They're like, you
know what? We're just going to take over. We're
going to get her money, and then we're going
to kill her. Damn. Yeah, it's a crazy movie,
actually. I definitely got to watch this. And
then Hembras de Tierra Caliente. That one, she's
just pretty innocent in that movie. But then
people in that town, they think she's not so
innocent. She's probably the one sleeping with
a lot of husbands. Typical. It's a great movie.
I love that movie. Just because she's beautiful
and the men look at her, they think she's the
one. Yeah, exactly. But that's a great one. I
love that movie. So, yeah, those are great ones.
And, yeah, those are the ones that I think people
should see. And the one that we're going to talk
about, that's a messy, obviously. And we're going
to talk about El Diario Intimo de Una Cabaretera
from 1989, which was from Frontera Films. And
like Joey said, yeah, she wears a dark wig in
this movie. She's got blonde hair, red hair.
She's a brunette. She's got black hair. She's
like the master of disguise in this movie. Yeah.
So the funny thing is. The blonde hair, of course,
that's her natural quote -unquote hair. And the
red hair is supposed to be a symbolism of sin
and seduction. And then they took the idea from
Lilith, from the Jewish legend. So she's the
queen of hell, Lucifer's wife, and Lilith is
supposed to have red hair as well. Oh, okay.
So, yeah, that's where they took it from. So
sin and seduction, the red hair. Yeah, I can
see it. Blonde, beautiful, innocent, you know,
because her role right there. Colored eyes and
shit, yeah. so yeah let's break down that one
now so let's go into it and that was what 1980
this is 1989 1989 yep that's when it came out
it looks like they shot it maybe a year before
maybe that's what it looked like to me at least
but i know the date is of release was 1989 and
this was by directed by gilberto martinez solares
written by gilberto nissan adolfo and it's a
drama it's a film more and then it's like a true
crime kind of movie it kind of yeah it kind of
goes all over the place but it works out really
good she really does play like a really sick
like a really good femme fatale in this yeah
exactly so let's see joey points out opens with
a monologue about how mexico city is huge and
this story takes place within the city and how
this is a story that can happen to absolutely
anybody which i thought was it was it's kind
of a funny intro but it's you know yeah it's
so it sets the tone it does set the tone i mean
because so right then and there you learn that
you know it's uh well It's Lina Santos' character,
right? Yeah, so it starts off with this lady
named Marta, played by Lina Santos. She's writing
in her diary, which is the intimate diary of
a cabaret girl. That's the English title. So
she's writing in her journal about how she fell
in love with this guy, the owner of the cabaret,
Marcelo. He's promising her a rich life. Telling
her sweet nothings. Yep, her singing career is
going to take off, blah, blah, blah. You know,
typical stuff like that. Desde niña, mi mayor
ambición había sido convertirme en una vedette
famosa. Gracias a Dios, lo he conseguido plenamente.
Estoy feliz, porque además estoy profundamente
enamorada del dueño del cabaret donde actúo,
a quien le debo el éxito de mi carrera. Él personalmente
supervisa mis rutinas, dedicándome todo su tiempo
a pesar de sus múltiples ocupaciones. Ay, yo
no sé qué haría sin él, que ha sido mi apoyo.
Mi creador, mi todo. Es guapísimo. Está separado
de su mujer y se va a casar conmigo. Se llama
Marcelo. Then when she tells him she's pregnant
with his kid, she's like, whoa, whoa, no, no,
I'm married. You know, I can't have this kid.
You gotta abort it. He immediately switches.
Yeah, he's like, no, he can't have this. No.
And she's like, no, I want to, blah, blah, blah.
¿Cómo que vas a tener un hijo mío? ¿Sí? ¿Que
no te da gusto? No. Y hay que evitar que lo tengas.
Tienes que ver a un médico. Yo pensé que ibas
a estar encantado. No tenía por qué estarlo.
Tú sabes bien que yo soy un hombre casado. Pero
que no estás separado, que no te ibas a divorciar.
No es tan fácil. ¿Ya fuiste a ver al médico?
Él puede arreglarlo todo. No, mi amor. Tengo
cuatro meses. Algo hay que hacer. he pretty much
ghosts her like he pretends that he left if i
recall yeah he pretend he left i remember he
says like oh you know yeah he's not in town but
then she manages to see that he's he is never
left he's just with his wife now was that actually
his wife though because they don't it seemed
like it was just another chick that i know i
mean you know they never say they never really
say yeah but it just didn't seem like yeah you're
right yeah i don't know but supposedly he said
that's his wife And then, yeah, so she's pregnant.
And then she's not pregnant with one kid. She's
pregnant with two kids. Twins. Two girls. And
their names are Jessica. What was it? Angelica.
Angelica and Jessica. Yeah, Angelica and Jessica.
And, of course, you know, she has the babies.
And then she kills herself. Actually, the mom,
Martha, she ends up not wanting to do this. You
know, she can't live like this. You think that
was, like, the guilt of having to give up the
twins for adoption? Or was she just, like? I
don't want to do this no more. She just couldn't
do it. So she kills herself in the bathtub. Pretty
gruesome scene. Yeah, she slits her wrist pretty
deep. And then the babies go up for adoption.
And then one of them goes to a rich family. The
other one goes to kind of a wealthy family too.
But they're not really the greatest parents ever.
It's a broken household for sure. Pretty much,
yeah. The fucking husband is this complete scumbag.
Once they adopt her and he's like, fuck you,
I'm leaving. Like I didn't want no damn kid you
wanted the kid you keep the kid Yeah, it's funny
when they adopt and they show the adoption scene
to have the parent like all happy and the other
ones are like the dad's like It's a pretty funny
montage because you can go through when they
get adopted and then it's like elementary school
scene where it kind of cuts in between both of
them. Then it goes to middle school age. Yeah,
Angelica's doing good in school. She's in tennis,
I believe. She's doing tennis and basketball
and all kinds of shit. Jessica's like... She's
a troublemaker. Because she grew up with no family.
Obviously, it's setting the tone for the movie.
She got caught smoking, they say. And then they
say that she's been reading these porn magazines.
Yeah, it was like Pulp Erotica or some shit.
Really bad girl. And she has a mean little face.
And the other girls all smiling and stuff. And
yeah, it sets the tone from there. Angelica gets
married to, what is he? So, I don't know if he
started off as a lawyer, but he ends up being
the warden for a women's prison. Yeah, he ends
up becoming the warden for a women's prison.
A very good career. And then, you know, he got...
And we should say, too, that she's a lawyer herself
in that time. Yeah, she's a lawyer. On Helica's
character, yeah. And then Jessica, she's a...
She's just trash. She becomes a schemer. She's
always jumping in front of cars. Her racket is
jumping in front of moving cars and trying to
get them to pay her out instead of going through
insurances so she can just get cash. That's her
whole fucking scheme throughout this whole time.
Just jumping in cars, jumping in cars. And scheming,
man. That's all she does. She's a liar. There's,
like, the doctor was like, we're going to have
to operate on you. She's like, oh, fuck. So she
just, like, grabs all her shit and leaves the
hospital. Yeah. And then that's when she meets
the coin guy, remember? Yeah, that was Cesar
Bono, wasn't it? Yeah, Cesar Bono under a different
voice. Yeah, he does not have the na -na -na
-na -na voice. It's like a deep voice, and it's
like, what? It just threw me off, too. I was
like, what the fuck? Yeah, so she meets this,
like, coin rare coin seller she starts working
with him of course they fall in love well she
he falls in love yeah he's just like all right
i'll marry him you know i'll get money off him
so she's married to this guy that she doesn't
even fucking like meanwhile her twin is living
the life you know she's working you know successfully
with her husband in the women's prison which
is very corrupt we gotta say to her husband is
better yeah so they're trying to like you know
Clean up the prison, basically, because it's
been so corrupted. You got women prisoners here
getting favorable treatment. There's drugs being
run in there. And Pedro Infante's character.
Trying to go in there with an iron fist. Trying
to clean it up. And, of course, there's a guard
there that's corrupt, and he's all like, fuck.
He's going to ruin everything for us. Was he
working for a cartel, or was he like a... Like
a sex trafficker? Because I know he was trying
to get one inmate to leave. It's like half and
half. Yeah, I just remember some of the prisoner
girls were like prostituting, remember? Yeah,
yeah. So there was a prostitution ring and then
there was like a drug ring. So yeah, it was like
a criminal. Because remember the main prisoner
girl there, remember? She was the one that called
the shots. She's like dating like a mobster or
whatever. Yeah, yeah. Criminal leader. He did
what he wanted with the inmates. And for him,
Pedro and Angelica, they only meant a nuisance
that had to be eliminated. Hey, what did he tell
you about the motel? What do you want me to say?
He put it in my file and they keep an eye on
me. Old bitch. How is it possible that you had
the motel there and so in sight? Before, they
didn't even check us, man. It's just that the
other director was intelligent. He was late.
But this is San Francisco de Asís. ¿Y qué onda
con mi asunto? Aguántate tantito, mi amor. En
menos de 15 días arreglamos esto. ¿A poco no
te gustó la presencia que te traje? A ti se te
pagó mucha feria para que yo tuviera mi celda
aparte. Y no para andar cuidando a tus pendejas.
Apaguen este radio, carajo. No dejan dormir.
Ese pinche licenciado cree que va a poder conmigo.
So yeah. So that's basically how it goes. You
know, it's like trouble here with this girl and
this girl is trying to fix the trouble that's
going on. And then Jessica kills the coin collector.
One day she's like, you know what? Fuck, you
know, I'm just done. The guy's like, why are
you always out? Blah, blah, blah. She fucking
kills him with a fire poker. She fucks them up.
Yeah. And of course, to make it even more dramatic.
So she leaves town. so it looks like she's not
there obviously yeah yeah she gets a bomb set
up the bomb goes off when she's like vacationing
It's like, whoa. Yeah, she goes through great
lengths to get money off of men, and specifically
men. That scene was hilarious. Even the scene
before that, when she starts to rob him, he's
like, oh, I'll be back. I got to go buy some
ancient coins. And so she's like, all right.
She locks the door, starts stealing all his money
from the bank and his coins, and he comes back
like, ha -ha, surprise. I came with an engagement
ring. Oh, yeah, that scene was hilarious. And
she's like, all right, well, fuck this fool.
I'm just going to kill him. Jessica, I thought
women were superficial and silly, but you're
so different. Well, what's all this about? I
want you to marry me. It's beautiful. The truth,
I don't know what to say. Thank you for proposing
it to me. It's very beautiful. So, yeah, that's
when she goes to Puerto Vallarta and then she
meets this younger guy. But then she ends up
falling for the younger guy's dad, which is played
by Hugo Stiglitz. Oh, yeah. And this is Don Martin,
correct? Yeah, Don Martin. Yeah, Don Martin is
Hugo Stiglitz's character. But before she does
that, remember that we can't skip over the threesome
scene. Yeah, so before any of this happens, there's
a certain threesome scene that a lot of people,
I think, remember. At least I know of. But good
thing you brought it up because I forgot today.
There's no way we could have talked about that.
Yeah, so there's a scene where, you know, she's
walking in the streets. These guys are trying
to pick her up. And then they're like, yeah,
come have a drink with us, you know. She pulls
out a fucking gat on these people. She's like,
oh, you know, we're just fucking, you know, we're
just trying to, you know, hang out. We're not
trouble. But then she gives in. She's like, all
right, I'll party with you guys. So they go to
a, I don't know if it's a hotel or one of their
guys' rooms. they start fucking macking on her
vamos a la playa by those trials starts playing
yeah it plays an important part of the scene
for some reason but yeah yeah so she's just getting
at it with these two guys and it's pretty raunchy
scene i was just like it's it's pretty yeah it's
pretty steamy i mean i was like whoa it's like
it's like one step below a hardcore scene i know
yeah literally they like get on her and then
both of them are on her I mean, you don't see
anything, obviously, but it's more than enough
to be like, damn, they're actually going at it.
Yeah, they definitely. Yeah. You know, let's
say they were definitely excited to shoot that
scene, those guys. Oh, yeah, they were very excited,
yeah. Well, I don't know about one of them. One
of them was Enrique Gomez Vadios' boy, but I'm
not going to get into that right now. Oh, okay.
We'll do it another time. But one of those actors
was, yeah, a familiar face for me. Es muy peligroso
andar en la ciudad. No, ¿por qué lo piensas?
Yo me sé cuidar solita. Pues abusada, porque
luego hay unos cabrones que se quieren pasar
de listos. ¿Como ustedes? No te pongas así. Solo
estábamos bromeando. No seas tan agresiva, mi
amor. ¿Por qué no guardas esa pistolita y te
vienes a pasear con nosotros, eh? Bueno. Pensándolo
bien, no están tan mal. Vámonos. Ahora sí, mi
reina, vas a ver que con los otros dos te vas
a dar una divertida. A ver si como Roncan duerme.
Te dije, pinche Carlos, ahora sí nos sacamos
la lotería. Nos vamos a comer a este cuero. So,
yeah, after that, you know, the threesome, the
blomming, moving to Puerto Vallarta, meeting
the new guy. She ends up marrying the older guy,
obviously. Yeah, so she basically, when she first
goes to Puerto Vallarta, she meets Martin. Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, baby, I love you, whatever.
And then she sees Don Martin, who's played by
Hugo Stieglitz. And she's like, yeah, fuck this
young fool. I'm going to go for this older guy
because he's the one, obviously, with the money.
And the younger guy is played by Roberto Palazuelos,
one of his earlier roles. And people would know
him from Don't Panic, which Vinegar Syndrome
released. I know all the horror fans are going
to. Yeah, they'll recognize that face. Yeah,
for sure. Yeah. But I mean, the whole scene with
like the whole sequence with Hugo Stieglitz,
like that part of the movie. I liked it a lot,
actually. He's dressed up like when they get
married. He has his whole charro outfit. Yeah,
that was a great scene. And then the two guys
from the threesome were there. It turns out they're
friends with the son. They're like, hey, that's
the girl that robbed us. That's the one we told
you about. as friends do right they probably
went to like man we hooked up with this fine
ass girl so that already sets off like you know
martin right there he's like oh shit so she is
really trouble you know she's probably just using
my dad so he's like trying to warn his dad like
hey you know you shouldn't be with her you know
why did you marry her and this causes like a
friction with them it's like you know he's like
no i'm in love with her you know i am not doing
not separating as you know as as happens when
you have a beautiful woman you know yeah seducing
i should say so that causes you know them to
separate like he stops living with his dad and
everything but he's still trying to convince
him like hey you know she's trouble she's gonna
do something to you and that she does and she
does she she poisons him yeah he asked he asked
her to to get him a couple shots of mescal and
she just puts arsenic in it instead And then
when he's arguing with his son about her, he's
like, no, I'm not going to separate blah, blah,
blah. And then he fucking falls over. Oh, yeah,
yeah. He has like a heart attack or something.
He starts getting a heart attack and then he
trips over the stairs. That stunt was sick, actually.
Yeah. He does like a fucking flip over. Yeah,
he flips over. It's so dramatic, too. It's like
down. Slow -mo. Yeah. It's like, oh, my God.
So, yeah. So she ends up inheriting, remember?
She inherits all his fortune. She managed to
get that. Her son's trying to fight it. Like,
nah, she's not going to get this. I deserve it,
you know. So that kind of sets off the tone from
there. And the other side of the story is the
prison. Corrupt. Yeah. I will say, though, like.
you know this movie is kind of like a nature
versus nurture is like the you know undertone
you know one obviously grows up you know in a
in a good household becomes a lawyer and gets
married the other one obviously you know you
know she schemes her way up but besides that
like they really don't have any like the stories
don't really intertwine it's just like this happens
then this happens and this happens yeah but then
it kind of intertwines near the end when you
know because so while this is all going claudio
bias his character he's the lawyer the one that
narrates the movie too He's all obsessed with
Angelica, I remember. Oh, yeah. He really liked
her. He was supposed to represent her in one
of her car crash cases. So before that, Julio,
because he's Angelica's husband, sorry. So throughout
his tenure of being the warden, he knows that
there's corruption. He's trying to snuff it out,
but he gets caught by... the the the guards right
yeah they know that he knows so they're trying
to kill him and they actually do when he finds
out that there is a like a like a smuggling ring
going on and he gets fucking hacked in the face
by like a like a meat hook um and he dies and
that's what sets up the romance between um the
new guy uh what was his name um uh i can't uh
god damn it what that was Damn it, what the fuck
was his name? Well, regardless, I forgot his
name, but he plays the lawyer, like you said,
and after Julio dies, that's when he's like,
all right, he has his chance now with Angelica,
and he's slowly... Yeah, he's credited as Licenciado
Solares. There you go, Solares. And that's when
he, like you said, that's when he snakes his
way in. Yeah. ¿Quién dio el pase de entrada y
salida al reclusorio de este camión? Fui yo,
señor. Este no es el camión que nos surte habitualmente
la carne. Cambiamos de proveedor, señor. ¿Con
autorización de quién? Señor, yo pensé que era
lo mejor para que... ¡Abra el cofre, por favor!
No, yo no estoy nervioso para nada, señor. and
he's obsessed with one sister first, but then
he meets this one. So he's like, oh, I'll get
with her. But then he suspects that they're probably
twins. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because didn't
she scheme him? Or he represented someone that
she jumped in front? That's how it began with
him. He was obsessed with her. And he was looking
for her. And then he sees the picture of the
girl, the innocent one. He's like, oh, that's
probably her. Or maybe, I don't know. But then
he starts drawing on the newspaper. Yeah, you're
right. This could be her. Maybe that's her twin.
And then, yeah, after that, near the end of the
movie, it's like, yeah. They never really meet,
the sisters, obviously. And then Solaris just
doesn't want to introduce them. He knows that
he probably could, but he just doesn't want to.
He wants to keep it separate. He wants to just
start a new life with this woman. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. And finally, so... uh jessica gets caught
up in in a murder you know she gets caught putting
arsenic you know by uh i guess uh martin don
martin's son does like a you know a private autopsy
or whatever they find out he was poisoned so
she gets arrested and right when she was trying
to scheme another rich guy exactly i know she
already set her hooks into someone else right
when she was about to um but that's you know
this is where the stories finally almost cross
is that she gets arrested and gets sent to The
woman's prison. That same woman's prison. That
Angelica was now the warden. She becomes the
warden, right? Yeah, she becomes the warden.
But she doesn't see the sister, Jessica, go get
arrested. Even though she's like, Angelica. I
don't even know if she remembers her name, but
she's like, Hermana, Hermana. Yeah, because she
was the only one that knew she had a twin sister.
Yeah. The other one didn't know she had a sister.
And, you know, the payoff, it kind of sucked
a little bit because I actually wanted to see
them cross paths. Yeah, that's what I was hoping
for, too, some kind of crossover. But, no, it
just ends all weird. And then even with Solaris,
like, he's just in the car all like, oh, shit.
Well, he saw her and was like, oh, fuck, let
me get in the car real quick. Yeah, the way it's
so set up, it's so awkward. It's like, what the
fuck? And then it just ends. I forgot what he
says at the end, but yeah, and then it's like,
what, that's it? It's like, oh, man, come on.
I was expecting a little bit more from that ending,
but it was still a good movie, though. That's
the thing. I do actually really like that movie
a lot. No, the movie is great. I just feel like
it leaves a little bit to be desired. Like I
said, I really wanted them to cross paths. Yeah,
at least once. And I feel like that would have
been perfect if she would have seen her and then
realized like, oh, she went down the wrong path.
And now she's responsible for keeping her straight
in the women's prison. I feel like that could
have been the ending right there. Yeah. They
just leave it on a cliffhanger. Not even a cliffhanger.
it's just weird like i said like i told you it's
like solara caesar he's like oh shit and then
gets her in the car you know and he's like all
right let's go and then they just drive off while
the other one's getting sent to the prison yeah
but other than that you know it's really very
fucking sleazy you know it's dramatic it's very
dramatic and um the title's a little misleading
though the audio well there's there's all of
what maybe two minutes of a cabaret scene and
a diary not so much of an intimate diary story
but you know but even that like like you said
the voiceovers are from so it's not even like
at one point i thought we were listening to marta's
character lena santos but and then i was like
wait that's not even her talking like who who's
who's having these flashbacks like of like what's
happening here yeah only once when she's talking
remember it's like oh i met the guy yeah yeah
after that it's just yeah so large it's narrating
yeah yeah that was weird too when you think about
it yeah I don't know. But the movie is so far
different from anything that I'm used to of that
era of Frontera Films. Yeah, this was very different
for them. This was, like, I think pretty much
near the end of their sex comedy era. So this
was, like, their first time trying something
a little bit different. They're like, all right,
let's start with the drama, but let's make it
really criminal -oriented. Let's keep the titties
in there. Oh, yeah. Let's go drama. Yeah, we
got to keep the nudity in there, of course. Tastefully,
of course. Yeah, and Helga Chayen gets naked
a lot in this movie. So for the Chayen fans who
are pervs, you'll like this one. Yeah, so if
you like her as a blonde, she's there naked as
a blonde because there are several scenes with
her having sex with Beathering Font. Oh, yeah.
And then there are scenes, of course, with her
wearing the red hired wig and then the dark hair.
The dark hair. That was my favorite, dude. Oh,
my God. The threesome scene. Oh, my goodness.
That was so wild. I was just like, whoa, okay.
They went for it. They went for it. And the song
just added more character to it. I know. Why
did they choose this? It's not off -putting,
but it just feels like it's kind of out of left
field. Yeah. And then the rest of the music was
scored by Ernesto Cortazar. But how much of that?
Because there was some library in there. Yeah,
there was some library in there from old George.
Not a whole lot of old George, but there's enough
in there to know. If you know his music, you'll
recognize it right away. There was one song in
particular. I was like, holy. I think I have
it. Flying Spider, maybe. Maybe. It might have
been Flying Spider. Because I know that's the
more common one was Flying Spider. Yeah. As soon
as I heard it, I was like, oh, fuck. I was like,
that's not Ernesto or whatever. Yeah, Cortezar.
But the rest was Cortezar for sure. And it's
really dramatic and eerie. Yeah, it's kind of
like lo -fi, like stabbing. The chords really
are abrupt. The chord progression isn't really
very romantic or dramatic or anything, but it's
very abrupt. So I like that. I like the music
angle there. And then, of course, them adding
the old George stuff. I was like, oh, cool. Right
away, I recognized it. I was like, oh, I know
these two songs that are playing. Shout out to
Medium Music. Yeah, Medium Music. More on that
eventually. We'll get to that. Yeah, dude. I
think, is this, I mean, obviously, there's a
tape of this that exists, but how available is
this to people to watch? Yeah, there's a tape.
There's a DVD. I think it kind of still sells.
Not really, not much as before. It's on Picaria
Nacional. It's finally streaming on there. Oh,
sick. That was one that wasn't streaming there
for a while. But, yeah, finally it's streaming
there. And if you guys haven't signed up for
Picaria Nacional yet, please do. Yeah, what the
fuck are you doing? Yeah, what the fuck are you
doing? Cancel Netflix because how much is Netflix?
I don't know. It's like $17 now or something.
$25 I think. Oh, that's fucking crazy. I don't
know. Picaria is like $5, $6. And you get all
the comedy, the sleaze that you want. Yep. There's
no trying to get naked on Netflix. Yeah, exactly.
but uh but yeah seek this one out this both of
these movies are actually really amazing movies
are great yeah and you know i know one thing
that someone told me was that man why do you
guys speed run through these movies but we just
kind of want to give you a taste of it you know
i want we want you guys to see the movie you
know i don't want you to listen to us and then
already know everything that happens in a movie
you know yeah if we do whole Yeah, you're gonna
get bored. Yeah, you know, no one wants a fucking
scene -by -scene breakdown, you know? Yeah, exactly.
We're telling you what you're gonna see and what
you're gonna definitely like from what you see.
And hopefully, you know, enough to entice you
to watch these movies because they really are
great. And, you know, not to joke around about
it, but they, you know, they do get dramatic.
They do get very serious. You know, the horror
stuff in Amantis is really good. The horror fans
are going to love that. Oh, yeah. If you like
horror, you're going to love this movie. No doubt.
There's no bullshit here. This is probably one
of the best Mexican 80s horror movies ever. And,
you know, unfortunately, that's the harder one
to find. But, you know, I'm telling you, you
guys are going to fucking love this one. If you
haven't already seen it, you're going to love
it. If you have seen it, you're more than likely
going to be a fan of it. I know I am Joey's fan.
I loved it. Yeah, I loved it. And so, you know,
I don't know when this is going to come out,
but when it does, you know, you want to give
a little bit of a sneak peek of. next month's
episode that's kind of kind of a tie -in with
a live theatrical screen so near the end of april
we'll announce the date pretty soon but near
the end of april we will be screening at the
frida cinema me and mike joey will be there hopefully
yeah i'll be there okay he better be there we're
gonna put him on the phone hey you're on the
hey you're here bro you can get me on zoom and
project me right So, yeah, later in April, we're
going to be screening a very violent movie. So
I'm pretty glad. This will be the debut for 2025.
It's going to be a very violent movie. You're
going to be very excited when you see it. It's
a wild one. A very wild one. I'm telling you,
very violent. No bullshit. But I want people
to know, too, that it's going to be kind of an
interactive show, right? Oh, yeah. You want some
crowd participation for this one. Yeah, so I
was telling Joey, like, you know what? I want
people to be in this podcast. And by that, I
mean I want to hear people reacting to it. So
we're going to be recording the interactions.
And then after the movie's over, I want to hear
from you guys. So if you guys buy a ticket and
see this movie, stay tuned. I want you guys to
stick around. Me and Joey are going to ask you
what you guys thought about the movie, what was
your favorite scene, et cetera, et cetera. So,
yeah. And you guys will be on the episode. I'm
going to edit it all in. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean.
I don't want to spoil it yet. I want to say it
so bad because it's a fucking banger that people
do love this movie already. It's going to guarantee
it's going to please the crowd. You're going
to be like, damn, this is fucking awesome. Well,
I'm sure as soon as they hear the little snippet
after this show, they're going to know exactly
what movie it is. So again, once we announce
it, buy a ticket and we're going to be there.
We're going to be recording you all. and show
up support man um uh you know i i know armando
enjoys doing this and i fucking love doing it
so thank you for you know actually inviting me
armando to be a part of this because it has been
fun and you know we do want more people to be
involved um you know we're working on getting
more interviews we're working on tons of stuff
so um you know keep hitting us up with your ideas
Please tell everybody about the show. Tell your
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But I get bombarded with messages sometimes.
So I'm just like, oh. I'm like twisting around.
I'm like, sorry, guys. But no, either way, like
I said, we'll respond to you guys. We're not
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thumbs you up. We want to talk to you guys. So
yeah, hit us up. And like I said, when we do
this episode, be there. And I want to hear you
guys talk. End of April, guys. Keep an eye out
for the calendar. Keep it open. We'll announce
it pretty soon. If it's not this week, it'll
probably be the week after. But yeah, we'll announce
it for sure soon. Maybe I'll get a fake wig of
some Liberty Spikes or something. Something,
yeah. I don't know what I want to wear. I don't
know. What should I wear that day? I don't know.
We'll figure it out. I'll bring a flamethrower.
Roasting fools. All right. And with that, let's
end it. Here's a little trailer for next month's
episode and a screening that Armando and Mikey
are going to be doing at the Frida Cinema. So,
peace. See you later. You thought you got rid
of us, didn't you? Back! Loco! Piquingo! Pantera,
you know what to do! That's it! Let's go! I'm
a policeman!