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Hey everybody, welcome back. This is Food for

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Thought, Thoughts If It Were You, and I'm your

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host, Neogentrics. Now, it's been a while since

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I've been here with you guys, and I haven't been

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able to make a podcast in a while, but I am back

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with some good news. Other than me getting ready

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for school in the fall and being able to move

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forward with my career, even though it took me

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two and a half months to get everything back

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in order, I'm back, and I'm ready to get started

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and make more podcasts like I have before. So,

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to get started, as always, this is Food for Thought,

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and the whole premise of my channel is education.

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So, I'm going to educate you on some really cool

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stuff, so please look forward to the upcoming

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podcast this week. There will be one almost every

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day, if I can help it. Our first topic for today,

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we have 25 things within the same topic that

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I'm going to cover today, and I would love to

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get into them and cover all of the stuff this

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week. Now, before we worry about that... let's

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go ahead and take a short break and we'll begin

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with the first of the many things I'm going to

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cover this week. And we're going to cover the

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dark true story behind many, many different,

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uh, fairy tale stories that we all used to love

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stories that we thought we knew the whole story

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of, and that the happy ending that Disney has

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given us, or the one that we are most familiar

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with. is a lie. What better way to uncover these

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lies than in podcasts? And again, like I mentioned

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before, to everyone who listens, if you don't

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like the name of the topic, which I do put in

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the name of my podcast, or you don't like the

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premise of my podcast at all, feel free to skip

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this episode and move on to another one that

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you actually want to hear, or send in your requests

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via my Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter, or here

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over, and I'll be glad to make an episode based

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off of whatever suggestions you give. Now, on

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with the show. We're going to take a quick, short

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20 -minute break, I guess. Well, I will, anyway.

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And we'll be right back. And we'll begin with

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the dark original truth behind Sleeping Beauty.

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All right, everybody, and we're back. Now, like

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I said, we're going to get started with the original

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origin, or rather the dark origin, of Sleeping

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Beauty. Okay? Now, before we begin, fairy tales

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can be pretty dark. And like the Brothers Grimm,

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you know, the story that they wrote, a father

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who chops off his daughter's hand to make a deal

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with the devil is a prime example. I'm not going

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to cover that one. I don't think I should, but

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I will definitely give it a shot, okay? The point

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I'm trying to make is this. The original Sleeping

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Beauty, it's in a league of its own, okay? In

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Sleeping Beauty's original story, the hero, aka

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the person who saves her, is a king who meets

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a beautiful sleeping princess and decides to

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rape and impregnate her while she's sleeping.

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Now, spoiler warning, this is going to get pretty

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gruesome. So again, like if you can't handle

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this, stop now. Okay. Anyway, the dark sleeping

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beauty story is miles away from the classic 1959

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Disney movie. And just like Disney's Beauty and

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the Beast is completely different from the tragic

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true story of the couple behind the tail as,

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you know, as old as time in Jim, but Batista's

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Basil's Sleeping Beauty story, originally called

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Sun, Moon, and Talia in 1634, the Wicked Queen,

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who became known as Maleficent, which is the

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whole point of that movie, is actually the hero's

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wife. Irony, huh? And hearing her side of the

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story will kind of make you want to root for

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her rather than the princess, or the prince for

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that matter. Anyway, Disney... wasn't the first

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to be deeply disturbed by the original Sleeping

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Beauty story. At the end of the 16th century,

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the Mother Goose Tales told Charles Perrault's

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Sleeping Beauty story, which took out the creepy

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sexual assault bit, including when Sleeping Beauty

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was stripped naked in front of her assaulter's

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wife. In retrospect, a lot of people preferred

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the Mother Goose version. And having just said

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that, it is pretty bad. Now, once you've read

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the original Sleeping Beauty, you'll never be

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able to look at the Disney version again. So

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again, I've just said this, but I haven't even

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gotten into the story yet. So, if you can't handle

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this, stop right now. Alright? I'll take a short

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break to give you a chance. And then we'll get

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into the next piece. All right, well, you had

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your chance to back out. And seeing how you have

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it, we're just going to go ahead and get started

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then. So, moving along with the story now. The

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17th century version of Sleeping Beauty is very

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dark. It is deeply disturbing. Let me say that

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right now. Now, everyone knows the story of Sleeping

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Beauty. It's a princess who is cursed to sleep

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until her true love wakes her with a kiss. In

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addition to the love story, there's also spindles,

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fairies, briar patches, apparently an evil witch

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who can turn into a dragon. Nice touch, Disney.

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But the original version of Sleeping Beauty's

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story is very different from the classic Disney

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movie that everyone is very familiar with. The

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original version of Sleeping Beauty was written

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down by an Italian by the name of Gian Battista

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Basile, who... published a book called The Tale

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of Tales in 1634. Very, very popular book, by

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the way. It contained 50 different stories, including

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early versions of Rapunzel, Cinderella, Snow

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White, and Sleeping Beauty, which we'll cover

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all the others in another podcast. The last of

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which is called The Sun, Moon, and Talia. Now,

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Bazil's book, was used by Charlotte Peralt in

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the late 17th century when he wrote Mother Goose

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Tales, which is by the Brothers Grimm in the

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19th century. But, Basil's version of Sleeping

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Beauty is much, much darker than the Disney version.

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Let me go ahead and say that right now. Okay?

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In the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty, Aurora

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and Prince Philip meet in the woods where they

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sing Once Upon a Dream. and instantly fall in

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love. But in the original story of Sleeping Beauty,

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the princess is not swept off her feet. She's

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raped in her sleep. I love how that rhymed. Anyway,

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the two main characters don't actually meet until

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Sleeping Beauty is already asleep. In Bantista's

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version, a king finds an abandoned palace. He

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sneaks through the window using a ladder and

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searches every single room. At last, the king

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finds Sleeping Beauty, nicknamed Talia, in Basil's

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story, who is lying on a bed, deeply asleep.

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And then the story takes a very, very disturbing

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turn. How do I put this? A quote from the book

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is this. Crying aloud, the king beheld her charms

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and felt his blood course hotly through his veins.

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He lifted her in his arms and carried her to

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a bed where he gathered the first fruits of love.

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AKA, he raped her. Apparently, sleeping women

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were a huge turn on for the king. I'm not even

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going to tell you how disturbed that sounds.

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Anyway, as if the king raping a sleeping stranger

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wasn't disturbing enough, after he has sex with

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the sleeping beauty, the king goes home and for

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a time thought no more about this incident. Apparently,

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the king didn't think it was odd to find a sleeping

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woman abandoned in a castle, and clearly he had

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no reservations about ditching her after raping

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her whatsoever. When the king gathered the first

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fruits of love from sleeping beauty, he apparently

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left something behind. Nine months later, Sleeping

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Beauty gives birth to two children, a boy and

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a girl, while she's still asleep. And before

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you go any further, this is entirely possible.

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It does happen. The author brushes past how exactly

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it's even possible to sleep through a twin labor.

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You're still in a mythical world here. I mean,

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don't get me wrong. Women can't go into labor

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in their sleep, but they'll wake up. So in this

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story, it's entirely possible. Once the babies

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are born, the two fairies appear to help care

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for them. Basil's story is already way too dark

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for Disney, and at this point it takes another

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strange turn as the fairies try to help the newborns

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breastfeed. Ugh. We're not done yet. Sleeping

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Beauty wakes up when the fairies end an attempt

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to place the twins on the sleeping woman's breasts

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so they can nurse, more or less. accidentally

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stick them on her fingers instead. The newborns

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suck so much that the splinters of flax came

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out. Once the flax, which had made Sleeping Beauty

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fall into a coma, is removed, Sleeping Beauty

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awoke as if from a long sleep. When Sleeping

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Beauty wakes up to find two newborns mewling

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at her side, she doesn't have a typical response,

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which would probably involve screaming. Instead,

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she just picks up the babies and starts breastfeeding

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them herself. And Basil doesn't mention how long

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the princess has been asleep, so there's that.

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Although it had to be at least a year. But readers

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have to wonder if the flax poisoning that put

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Sleeping Beauty in a coma might have affected

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her, you know, faculties, in a manner of speaking.

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She sure doesn't react like a typical person

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anyway. And it only gets worse once the king

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comes back to claim his children. You know, put

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bluntly anyway. So we're going to take a short

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break here and then we'll keep going. All right.

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All right. After that brief intermission, we're

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back. Now, continuing where we left off. The

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king, believe it or not, actually returns to

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Sleeping Beauty later and finds that she's not

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sleeping. And she falls in love with him. I'm

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not kidding. Okay? Now, obviously the king hadn't

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thought about Sleeping Beauty for a while. After

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all, she had time to give sleep birth. I guess

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that's what you would call that. to twins but

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then the king remembers her and hoping for a

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second date more or less with the sleeping woman

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he returns to the palace he must have been pretty

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surprised to find sleeping beauty awake and taking

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care of you know his twins the original tale

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claims that the king was overjoyed and he told

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talia who he was and how he had seen her and

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what had taken place again That long sleep must

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have affected Sleeping Beauty because rather

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than stabbing the king or demanding child support,

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like they had it at that time anyway, Basil writes,

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When she heard this, their friendship was knitted

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with tighter bonds. The two begin a romantic

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relationship. The king leaves out one small detail,

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though. He's already married. Now, in the original

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version, Maleficent is not an evil fairy. She's

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a queen married to a cheating rapist. Wow, that

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sounds dark. However, in the Disney Sleeping

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Beauty version, Maleficent is a self -proclaimed

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mistress of evil. She's the one who curses baby

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Aurora with the threat of a spindle, and she's

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the one who builds the spindle that ultimately

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puts... Sleeping Beauty to sleep. It is because

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of Maleficent that Aurora's parents send her

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off to be raised with the fairies in the woods.

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Maleficent transforms into a dragon to fight

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Prince Philip when he tries to save Aurora's

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life. Even in the Charles Peralt version of Sleeping

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Beauty, popularized in the Mother Goose Tales,

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again published in 1967, the evil woman is a

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hybrid between an old fairy and an ogre, filled

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with evil intentions. But the villain in Basile's

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son, Moon Antalia, is actually the king's wife.

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And a woman married to a cheating rapist, technically

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speaking. Now, before you start going, oh, well,

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that's just the way that Disney told it. And

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she probably is still the same way in this story.

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Wrong. Queen actually tries to cook the children

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to feed to their father. As dark as that sounds,

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in a way, it is her own way of justifying what

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happened. Now, Maleficent might be innocent in

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the original version of Sleeping Beauty, but

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once she figures out her husband is cheating,

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she turns vicious. This is where the Disney version

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comes from. She threatens a secretary to reveal

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the secret of the king's mistress, warning him.

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If you hide the truth from me, you will never

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be found again, dead or alive. He spills the

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secret and the queen tricks Sleeping Beauty into

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sending her children to the queen. The queen

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orders her to, and I quote, cook and slaughter

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the children and cook them up in several tasteful

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dishes for her wretched husband. I'm not kidding.

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That's literally what the text says, word for

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word. The gentle -hearted cook could not possibly

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kill the adorable twins, so he hides them and

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cooks two lambs in their place. Then the queen

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sits down with the king to watch him eat his

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children. Whenever he compliments the food, she

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says, Eat, eat, you're eating of your own. Yep.

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Pretty dark, even though we both know that he

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hasn't actually eaten them. Now, after cooking

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the children, the queen tries to toss Sleeping

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Beauty into a fire. The queen isn't actually

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satisfied with simply feeding the children to

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her cheating husband. She also kidnaps Sleeping

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Beauty. The queen calls out Sleeping Beauty,

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obviously unaware of the rape, by saying, You

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are a fine piece of goods, you ill weed. I'm

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sorry, you ill weed, who are enjoying my husband.

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She goes on to call Sleeping Beauty the lump.

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of filth the cruel bee that has caused her my

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head to spin the queen plans to toss sleeping

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beauty into a bonfire but sleeping beauty tries

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to defend herself by saying it wasn't her fault

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because and i quote the king her husband had

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taken possession of her territory when she was

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drowned in sleep but by this point the you know

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the queen's already out for blood pretty bad

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huh Man, that's a lot to cover. Anyway, Sleeping

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Beauty figures out what's going on once she sees

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the bonfire. She comes up with a plan to stall

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for time. She asks the Queen if she can take

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off her clothes before she's thrown into the

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fire because her clothes are covered in gold

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and pearls. The Queen says, You can take off

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your clothes. I agree. Sleeping Beauty slowly

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begins to remove her clothes one by one. Her

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robe, her skirt, her bodice. I'm not going to

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explain what that is. If you want to know, look

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it up. And her shift. Each time she takes off

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a garment, she screams loudly. The king bursts

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into the room to figure out what's causing all

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the screaming and finds his wife about to throw

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his mistress into the bonfire. The queen then

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tells the king that his children are dead and

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he ate them. To which the king replies, you renegade...

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Which, I'm gonna say that because it's actually

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the other word. What evil deed is this? He orders

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his men to throw the queen into the fire instead

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of Sleeping Beauty, and after executing his wife,

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the king learns that his children are actually

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still alive. In retrospect, I feel bad for his

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wife. Like, terribly. And it still continues

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going. Let me take a short break here so I can

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catch my breath. And we'll be right back. All

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right, we're back. Let's go ahead and finish

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up the rest of this story. Yeah. So the king

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and Sleeping Beauty are reunited with their unharmed

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children. The king then marries Sleeping Beauty,

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forgetting his dead first wife. How sad. And

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the family lives happily ever after. In a story

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full of rape, cannibalism, and assault. One of

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the most disturbing lines comes at the very end

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when Basil includes a proverb that serves as

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the moral of the story. It goes something like

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this. Those who fortune favors finds good luck

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even in their sleep. That's right. The moral

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of the story, according to Basile, is that sometimes

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sleep rape has a happy ending. No wonder Disney

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had to completely change the story to make it

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less creepy and disgusting. In the original version,

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it's not just rape. It's also necrophilia, um,

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as well. Let me go ahead and cover this real

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quick. In the story of Sleeping Beauty... Most

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authors go out of their way to make it clear

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that Sleeping Beauty has fallen into an enchanted

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sleep, and only the prince can awaken her. Charles

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Perrault's version, for example, says that the

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princess touched a spindle, and when it ran into

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her finger, she fell down in a swoon. The Brothers

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Grimm tell a similar story. When Sleeping Beauty

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picks up the spindle and pricks herself, she

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falls into a deep sleep. But in the original

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version by Basile, does not say that Sleeping

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Beauty fell asleep. He says that she died. In

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Basile's version, it is a flax rather than a

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spindle that curses Sleeping Beauty. As the princess

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is stretching some flax, rather a splinter of

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flax under her nail, and she fell dead upon the

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ground. Even Sleeping Beauty's father assumes

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she is dead, laying her out in the palace as

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if it were basically a tomb. So when the king

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sneaks into Sleeping Beauty's castle and has

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sex with her, he probably thinks she's dead too.

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Which only makes the entire story that much worse.

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You know, in retrospect, it doesn't seem all

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that bad, but when you think about each aspect

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of it, it is terrible. The sad thing about me

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telling you this is you'll never be able to look

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at Sleeping Beauty the same way ever again. Like

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I said, the original version of Sleeping Beauty

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is deeply disturbing. The story celebrates a

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king who rapes a sleeping woman and lies to his

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wife, eventually throwing his wife into a fire

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so he can marry his mistress. Now, the scene

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in the Disney movie where Maleficent turns into

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a dragon and tries to fight Prince Philip looks

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a lot different in light of the original story.

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Matter of fact, it actually looks a lot nicer

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and not so grim. The real villain in the story

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isn't actually the queen at all. Obviously, the

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rapist necrophiliac who impregnates and abandons

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a sleeping princess is the true villain. I mean,

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it kind of makes you want to root for the dragon.

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It's kind of sad, don't you think? You know?

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But, again, like I said, that's one of many stories

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that I plan to cover. So. Again, thank you for

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listening. This is Food for Thought, Thoughts

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If It Were You. I'm your host, Neogentrix. And

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today we covered the dark story behind the original,

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you know, nice fantasy version that we all know

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of, Sleeping Beauty. Next time, in my next podcast,

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look forward to, and I'm going to be pretty thrilled

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to say this right now, please look forward to

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the next dark story of Pinocchio. We're going

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to cover the serious truth behind the original

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story written behind that one in the next episode.

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And as before, I'm your host, Neogentrix. I hope

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