Do you believe in aliens?
I do throughout the universe.
However, I don't believe that any
extraterrestrial aliens have
ever landed on planet Earth.
So you believe in aliens out
there, but not aliens here.
Why?
Correct.
When you step back and take a scientific
wide picture of what it
would take to travel millions
of light years through space, and you
realize that in order to
reach that level of technology,
number one, that civilization would have
had to pass and left
behind long ago its nuclear
decision threshold.
What's that?
That's when conscious beings develop
enough power and energy
to wipe itself, wipe out
civilization on its planet.
So to get to the point where you have the
energy, the advanced
energy to travel light
years through space, you have to get past
the point of destroying civilization.
And what's beyond that point?
Beyond that point is pure rationality.
You see, you leave behind all
irrationality because it's
irrationality that's going to
cause a nuclear annihilation of conscious
beings on your planet.
In order to survive that, that nuclear
decision threshold, you
must purge irrationality or
what our philosophy calls mysticism,
personal mysticism among
civilization, among human
beings or among conscious beings.
So once you purge irrationality, let's
call it, then you will
move more and more quickly
and advance more rapidly with rationality
and you will develop, you will have great
technological revolution, you will
develop the technology to travel.
But when you get to that point where you
develop the technology to
travel light years and then
multiple light years and thousands of
light years throughout
the universe, you will have
advanced so far technologically that
there is nothing that
those beings, those conscious
beings could benefit or learn from planet
Earth or from our human beings.
They're just too far
advanced beyond that.
So there's no reason for them to expend
that kind of energy to
travel that distance to
come to Earth.
So it makes no sense that any advanced
civilizationist, that
advanced would ever have any interest
in spending that kind of
energy to come to Earth.
It learned nothing, it gains nothing.
So then why do so many people think
aliens are here on Earth?
Well you know you have recently, a lot of
this has been in the
news, you know like UFO
sightings and, but as time passes more of
these unexplained, unidentified phenomena
get explained.
It just takes time to get all the pieces,
the puzzle pieces together to do that but
steadily and surely and if there ever
were any
extraterrestrial aliens on Earth there
would just be overwhelming evidence.
Now over time these phenomena get
explained but when you
just understand the scientific
logic behind why there would not be that
expenditure of energy from these advanced
civilizations that could gain, learn
nothing from us, learn
nothing at all from us, they
wouldn't expend that
energy to come and travel here.
What do you believe about these aliens
that aren't here on Earth then?
Oh I do believe they're all throughout
the universe and some
far advanced beyond planet
Earth.
I believe there's many civilizations that
have surpassed their
nuclear decision threshold
which by the way our planet is right at
that point at this point in time.
We are right at our
nuclear decision threshold.
Meaning your nuclear decision threshold
meaning that we can
either destroy ourselves with
the technology we've developed or go
through a threshold and
leave behind all dishonesty
and what you say mysticism.
Yeah leave behind irrationality.
Do you think that's even, how is that
even possible to leave
behind irrationality and
dishonesty?
Well when you study the roots of Neothink
we go back into
Neotech, the philosophy of
Neotech which grew out of Ayn Rand's
objectivism and you see how Dr. Wallace,
my father, identified
mysticism as a mind disease.
It's really the only disease of the mind
is mysticism and it
grows out of laziness and
dishonesty and it takes grotesque forms
such as ruling
classes, bureaucracies that
I call cults that manipulate people's
lives and manipulates
their minds but it's a mind
disease.
Mysticism is a mind disease and once that
or not until that mind
disease is cured through
honesty, fully integrated honesty and
effort until that point
in time we are at risk of
annihilating conscious beings on earth
through a nuclear proliferation.
And you think that these conscious beings
out there have each gone
through that threshold,
that nuclear decision threshold and have
left behind their
dishonesty and irrationality.
Right, I believe that there are planets
that have and there are
planets of conscious life
that have not and those that have could
be advanced enough to
travel through the universe
but as I said they would gain nothing to
come here because if
they're that advanced that
they could travel light years through
space there's nothing
they're going to learn from
us, nothing they're
going to gain from us.
It's very simple once you get that what I
call a Neothink
perspective, wide scope thinking
and just see the whole logic behind it.
Yeah, it's starting, it's making a lot
more sense that there's,
if conscious beings are
aliens out there are so advanced that
they could come here
then they wouldn't need to
come here.
All right, Wallace, we've spent our whole
lives, I spent over 45 years studying the
human mind.
You've been spending your adult life
doing the same and we've
learned so we're so beyond
a lot of people in
this field of knowledge.
In fact with Neothink we're beyond most
people if not all people
in this field of knowledge
of understanding how that what limits the
human mind and how to free the human mind
right through Neothink.
Now what I as busy as I am and as
challenging it is for me to
keep up with my not only my
responsibilities but with my creative
thinking, my creative
writing, would it make sense for
me to go and sit in kindergarten with the
other kids for a month?
No because I don't learn, I
won't learn anything there.
So I'd have no reason to go there.
That's not even to mention the expense
and the energy and the
devotion of time that it
would take to travel light years through
space to come to kindergarten.
If you're that advanced to come to
kindergarten, let's
call Earth kindergarten.
Why would they come to kindergarten and
spend all that time,
energy, and money and suck
up a portion of their
lives to come to kindergarten?
They just wouldn't do it.
Right, that's beautiful.
That seems very logical
and makes a lot of sense.
Once you get that Neothink perspective,
it just clears out all
the stories out there
about UFOs and not being able to explain
this and Area 51 and all
of that, it just clears
it all out.
So why are some really, really
intelligent people kind of obsessed or
enamored with aliens?
One person comes to
mind is Tucker Carlson.
Now here's the reason why.
Tucker Carlson is a brilliant guy and he
operates with Neothink, wider
perspectives of things.
And therefore he's a self leader.
Now when you're a self leader, a Neothink
self leader, you
don't let the ruling class
or external authorities tell you, no,
something isn't there or
something doesn't exist.
Because you have a curious mind as Tucker
does and you want to
get to what is yourself,
not by what an external authority or what
the ruling class tells you what is.
So he's sort of bucking the system
because our government
has always been known to, or
for the most part until recently, to say
no, no, no, there's no,
none of this, no aliens,
none of this, none of these ships are
aliens in Area 51, no, no, no, no.
So Tucker being a curious mind, a self
leader, a self thinker is
not going to have the ruling
class tell him what is or what is not.
He himself needs to know
what is or what is not.
He just doesn't have that whole
scientific integration,
that Neothink perspective that
I just laid out for
you today, that's all.
I do think he, I think I saw him on Joe
Rogan saying something
like he believes that there
are not necessarily aliens, but there are
spiritual beings that have
existed for a long time on earth
and that's out of our comprehension and
more of like, you know,
kind of like a little bit
religious, maybe spiritual. I'm not sure
if I'm totally correct on
that, but that's what I think
his views are.
Okay, well that's interesting and, but I
will say that a lot of, of Neothinkers,
or people who have joined our private
Neothink club over the decades have been
attracted to, to, to the whole idea of
alien beings having been on
earth. And I've realized why that is.
It is because they are more open-minded
than the average population. And until
relatively recently, the whole idea of
could there be conscious beings out there
throughout the universe was not really
that, was not really accepted.
It was, is more thought, well, no, we're
the only conscious
beings in the universe.
Now, with Carl Sagan, with my father, Dr.
Wallace, and others, it's become more and
more understood and accepted now that
yes, there are conscious beings all
throughout the universe. There has to be.
And why is that? Oh, just this, when you
understand numbers, you understand all
these, these energy systems all
throughout the universe. It's very clear
that there's conscious life all over
throughout the universe. They may be like
years apart, but they're there. But
decades ago, let's just say, to be
thinking about the possibility of aliens
on earth means that someone had a more
expansive thinking. Well, yes, I'm sure
there are conscious beings throughout the
universe. And therefore, it's possible
that some of them have landed on
earth. You see, it's, it's almost ironic
that those who had sort of a more open
mind and a wider perspective of things,
because they don't have the scientific
logic behind it, as I explained to you,
and don't have that
neo-think perspective, in
a sense, they had more open minded wider
scope thinking than than a lot of people
who didn't believe in
aliens having been on
earth because of their, their view of the
universe as a whole. So I've realized why
a number of people who have been
attracted to neo-think had that, that
belief throughout our 50
years of being a private club.
And back to your analogy about
kindergarten, and not going back there.
So if conscious beings exist out there,
then, you know, like you as
an a grown adult, wouldn't like some go
back to teach kindergartners and lesser
developed minds to be
able to develop into more
developed minds. So why wouldn't
conscious other conscious beings out
there do the same to us and educate us
or, you know, try to help us or
anything?
Well, actually, this brings up a couple
of interesting thoughts. I'm glad you
brought that up. Number one, just the
sheer costs and energy and time that it
would take wouldn't be worth it for them
to come back here and teach us they would
find much more
productive ways of teaching more
advanced conscious beings for greater
return, greater results than spending
that energy, time, money, and I'm going
to say twice time to come here to
earth to do that. Number one. But I'm
glad you brought that because it raises
another whole topic. And it
gets into almost a spiritual
realm. But it's more scientific than
that. And what I mean by that is no, I
would not myself go spend the time let's
say there is a kindergarten
school in China, and I have to fly around
the world to teach it for a week. Of
course, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't
even drive down the
street to do that. I just
wouldn't be able to. But if I were
walking along the beach, and I saw a baby
drowning in the water, I'm going to run
over there and save that baby. I'm not
going to let that baby die. Because of
the value of that baby. So with that in
mind, I'm just going to throw this out
there. And I didn't expect this
conversation to go there, but I'm going
to throw it out there now.
When you have advanced conscious beings
that have been conscious billions of
years longer than we have been conscious
on earth, let's say, or
even millions of years.
We've only been conscious for 3000 years.
3000 years.
3000 years and there are studies that
show why that's the case as 3000 years
that we've been in this conscious mode
now where we have introspection, we can
make decisions for ourselves, as opposed
to being more of an automatically
reacting animal with no inner mind space.
But for 3000 years, as demonstrated
throughout writings, throughout history,
and including the Bible is a great source
of witnessing that transition from sort
of that more animal mind into the
conscious mind within
sight and decision making.
So for 3000 years now, imagine a
civilization that's been conscious for,
let's just say 10 million years. Now what
I want to do is throw
out this, this concept.
It took, it took us almost 3000 years to,
to control nature on a wide scale. And
I'm going to say that's Hoover Dam
controlling the Colorado River.
And you know, it's Lake Mead as a result
of that. And then we have the power and,
and so on and so forth from, from what
we've accomplished here.
So then it took yet another just 30, was
it about 33 years or
so to land on the moon.
Now with computer technology and
particularly now AI, we are advancing
with knowledge almost at
light speed at this point.
So I want to point out that progression
of how long it takes to get to here, then
to here, and then it just goes like that.
Exponential. Right. So imagine 3000 years
and we're just entering in that
exponential phase with AI. Imagine
civilization has been
around for a million years.
What they can do.
It's unfathomable.
All right. So when they're that advanced
now, going back to my metaphor of the
baby drowning on the beach and 100% an
adult walking by would run
over and save that little baby.
Of course.
So imagine us being little babies and
we're drowning in death because we all
die. We are rolling around in the surf
and drowning all of us.
Eight billion people are all going to
die. Now, when you think of those
civilizations, millions of years beyond
us in consciousness,
are they going to save us?
Are they going to let us die?
I hope not.
And they look, look at us and they
realize we're all rolling around in the
surf drowning. We're going to die. All
eight billion of us.
And we're going to just keep dying and
keep dying and keep dying.
It almost stands to reason that at some
point they do something that will save us
from drowning in the surf. If we're all
babies drowning in the surf.
So are you saying other conscious beings
out there might save us from death?
This is a heavy topic that I deal with
extensively in my writings.
But I will say that it's an unbroken line
of logic to assume that.
When you go through psychology of
conscious life and recognizing that each
conscious being is to that person the
most important thing in the universe.
So when you realize how important
conscious life, each conscious life is.
If you read my trilogy super puzzle, you
see that you see the incredible traumatic
experience for the last one to die.
When you're that advanced and you see
babies drowning in the surf and your
technology is that advanced.
Is there not something that happens? It's
just something I'm throwing
out there as a possibility.
Is there not something that happens
through the ether of the universe or
something that
gathers your consciousness?
And I know it sounds like religion, but
it could be much more scientifically
grounded than just faith.
There's a line of logic, a scientific
line of logic that takes us to that
point. Something to ponder.
Yeah, I mean your analogy
is pretty straightforward.
Like if I'm walking by the beach and I
see someone drowning, like a child
drowning, of course, I'm just going to
walk over there and just pick it up.
So if other beings are that advanced to
be able to look at us like drowning
babies in the surf, you're just going to
prevent our consciousness.
It's very possible. I believe that there
is a universal computer throughout the
universe where all conscious
civilizations pour their knowledge, where
all conscious civilizations can tap into.
Why can't we tap it?
Not yet, but we continue moving in a
rational direction. If we can get past
our nuclear decision threshold, which is
right on the brink at this point in time,
as you all know, if we can get past that,
we will ultimately get to that point
where we tap into the universal computer.
And if there's a universal computer,
could there be a universal way of when
you die of scooping up, saving your
consciousness so you don't perish, where
these precious
conscious beings don't perish?
That's something, again, to ponder.
All right, well,
that's a lot to think about.
Yes.
So conscious beings exist out there.
Yes.
But not here on Earth.
Never.
Okay.
All right. Well, that's that.
Good. All right.
Until next time.