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So you should be listening That's true audiobooks
podcasts you name it and it's I've been so deep
in the rabbit holes Which is partially why we're
gonna talk about what we're gonna talk about
today Yes, but before we do if you're watching
on YouTube if that's where you're joining us
from you're gonna see I'm I'm dressed a little
different, right? It's not It's not to commemorate
Charlie Kirk. You might have thought that. Yes.
That would be acceptable. No, I just came from
a meeting with one of my church leaders, actually.
And before, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to change.
And I was like, you know what? No, make a statement
because it's 2025. And you know what that means?
It's time for us to welcome change, work on us.
At least that's where I'm at. I enjoy working
on myself. I want to be the best version of myself
I can be. This week's episode. You're not ready.
We're about to hit you with some crazy shizz.
All right. This week's episode is birds aren't
real, but this episode is. Yeah. So this was
Joe's idea. He really loved this title and he
wanted to go with it. So let us know if you like
it. There are so many conspiracy theories floating
around right now. So many. It is. It is absolutely
inundating, but I'm here for it. If you love
conspiracy theories. There's like the conspiracy
theories where you're like, no, that could never
happen. Like, you know, for the conspiracy theorists,
they hear this, this might be a small percentage
of our listeners. Adrenochrome, Pizzagate, like
I'm here for all that stuff, but that's not where
we're taking this. Obviously, there's the Charlie
Kirk stuff. Yeah. We're going to talk about just
a little bit of that. We've got some fun stuff
to share. And are birds even real? Like, do you
do you know for sure that pigeons are real? What
if they're just little homing devices that can
just like Thuggy just be like so creepy. Oh wait,
and you went to Target again this week. That's
crazy Target sponsor me, please. Oh, please I
mean even just chip in Joanna like it doesn't
have to be whole Target just like something.
Oh, that would be nice I am someone that's not
a huge girly on conspiracy theories. It makes
my brain wanna explode. It's just too much for
me. I'd rather sometimes just be oblivious to
everything. Like I'm just gonna focus on my home
and my family. Like I can't. This outside world
stuff, it just blows my mind. But I dug deep
in this episode and I've got some crazy conspiracies
to come out you guys with, so. I'm ready. I'm
excited. But to start off this episode, we've
got to tell you guys which one was the fake story
of last week. If you're new to our podcast, every
week we tell four stories on the episode based
on the theme of the episode. And one of them
is fake generated by Chachi Beauty and also our
brains. We do a little mix of it. Maybe a little
grok sprinkle. Yeah, just a little bit. But many
Chachi Beauty. And you guys guess each week which
one you think's the fake. And every episode we
announce in the beginning which one of last week's
episode was the fake story. So let's get on with
last week. If you have not listened to last week's
episode, stop now and go to when my instincts
saved me. It's a crazy episode. So the first
story was about the random voice that saved the
girl's life. Her and her best friend were walking
on the sidewalk like they always do. And a random
voice told her to cross the road. she didn't
listen at first but then she was like what the
heck why is this still pushing me so she ended
up crossing the road long story short the friend
that didn't cross the road got ran over so that's
story number one story number two anniversary
camp story while camping for their anniversary
in a secluded area everything seemed normal until
night fell out of nowhere or both he and his
wife felt that creepy gut feeling like they weren't
alone long story short they woke up to find a
half um Lit or what? How would you see that?
Like a half lit cigarette on the floor? Next
to their fire pit. So there was someone creeping
around. Yeah. And they just they just left their
little dart right there and like half smoke.
Yes. And they were like, oh my gosh, someone
was here because they were hearing split steps
in the middle of night and they were scared.
And the wife turned to her husband and was like,
babe, do you hear that? And he was like, shh,
be quiet. And then he flashed the light. Well,
yeah, I know it's creepy. No, you just sounded
like exactly like the beginning of those Joyner
Lucas songs. Maybe it's just the one song where
it's like, shh, be quiet, they're coming. That's
the beginning of a song. I know exactly what.
Exactly like. Why did that kind of creep me out
though? I don't know why. Shh, be quiet, they're
coming. That's so creepy. But I love that song,
that song's a banger. Also, we're going camping
this weekend, so I'd love to hear that. I know!
This one was childhood warning. There was a girl
that was hanging out with a group of friends
and they were hanging out with this older man
and this man really was like drawn to this little
girl and the little girl felt really creepy about
it. This man started coming around to their house
and like bringing gifts. Mom answered the door
and was like, get the frick away from my daughter.
You are not allowed to be around her. I don't
care who you are and how nice you are, get away.
And come to find out years later, he had done
really bad things to a younger girl and he was,
he got caught. And so she was just talking about
how she was thankful her instinct saved her,
but she feels terrible for the younger girl that
didn't like escape him kind of thing. Yeah. And
then the last one is the dark night story. This
one ties into the, when it was the release of
the dark night, someone had plans to see the
movie opening weekend at that same theater, but
at last minute, their gut told them not to go
and to go back to bed. And so he didn't go. Aurora,
Colorado. Yes. Whoa. Yep. One of those was the
fake. Joe, you were not here for the episode.
So which one do you think is the fake before
I announce which one it was? I think I'm pretty
good at this. Yeah, you are. I mean, there's
a there's a few candidates there. So I'm just
going to guess that the girl that crossed the
street and the other girl didn't. That's fake.
Right, right, right. You're really good at this,
but you actually sucked because it was actually
the anniversary camp story. Really? Yeah, that
was the fake. Okay. And you want to know where
that came from in my heart? Our anniversary camping
trip. Our anniversary camping trip. I told the
story after I read it when we were roasting starbers
at the fire pit. When we pulled in, we had never
camped somewhere like this before. It was so
secluded. We've never been somewhere where it
was like full on camping, camping. When it was
like higher elevation, so there was aspen trees.
It was beautiful. Licker woods. Yeah, it was
beautiful. We were right behind a river. Like
we were on a river. It was that. And we pulled
in and I felt uneasy. Like I didn't feel safe
there. And I remember. Yes. And when we were
roasting starvers, you were like, we like heard
something and we both looked at each other and
we're like, what the frick is that? And then
you shine the light and boom, a fat skunk was
right there. So anyways, that's kind of where
my mind was going as I created that story. Yeah.
The skunk was just like back on his haunches,
just smoking a cigarette. It was crazy. It was
crazy. He's like, yo, you want to drag? Oh my
gosh. Okay. So that was last week's episode and
that was the fake. Now let's get on with this
week's episode. I'm excited. We should. I think
you should hit us off with the first story. So
this comes from the subreddit conspiracy, which,
as you could imagine, is flooded with Charlie
Kirk. stuff right now. Yeah. And there's literally
a million sub blocks that we can go into on this.
And I've listened to all of them. But the one
thing that has been on my mind lately, and I
saw a post about this, is that he was shot with
a .30 -06 round. So for those that don't know,
and this is probably going to be news for you,
a .30 -06 is a hunting rifle. So think like bolt
action. You like put one in the chamber and you're
taking down a massive animal like elk. in like
moose like it is designed to one shot like take
down a beast of animal well big big rounds it's
not like the ar -15s like that are popular killing
machines which what they are somebody posted
a video recreation of a round going into a gelatin
head of like basically trying to recreate what
a headshot would look like from a 30 -06 it's
it's a gelatin head with the human skull and
I'm gonna show you we're not gonna show the viewers
but I do want you to be able to see this and
react to it because obviously we've all seen
the wound we've seen what he did oh my god there's
no way he was shot by that Okay, so I'm so interested
in this because first of all, that's okay. That's
crazy. That's that's massive, right? And so you
guys are gonna be able to see it It's not this
is not like You know a little round where it
goes in and like there's not much damage caused
that obliterates the skull now for your sake
Okay, this is what I wanted to share when it
hits the skull and the bullet like redirects
it. Maybe it goes all the way through. But what
you're seeing is it goes into the gelatin, which
is recreating like our facial structure, and
then it hits the skull. And then when it does
that, that's when it blows up. So there was basically
no resistance for Charlie. If he was shot by
this caliber, which we can't rule out, it went
into his neck, which is very, very soft tissue.
Like it's not necessarily going to react the
same way because this is hitting the skull and
then So the consistency of the gelatin is supposed
to be exactly the same. And that's where you're
supposed to call his word or is there like science
to map that out? Well, listen, all I am is an
internet sleuth. I'm not a scientist. OK, so
I mean, I'm judging his word for it based on
the demonstration. OK, all right. But that being
said, I'm really interested in this stuff, you
guys. I'm interested in in the bullet loop, because
if you saw the video of the one evil. It's insanely
graphic. I don't want to make light of what happened
to him at all, but it's so frustrating that we're
being lied to. It is so frustrating to feel like
we're not getting a straight story. Yeah. So
here, I'm going to give my theory to the audience
and we welcome whatever you guys want to share
with us. Give me your thoughts. I want to hear
what you think about the just just the bullet
alone, the shell, the damage, whatever. what
they have said. There was an NBC News article
that was posted that said that there was no exit
route. So this bullet went into his neck and
didn't come out. And Andrew Colvett, who is one
of Charlie's like, I don't know if he's a producer.
He's a good friend of Charlie's. He runs the
Charlie Kirk show. He kind of made it in evangelical
things, saying like, it's just another way that
Charlie saved more lives because there were people
staying behind him. Normally, a 36 round would
go straight through. your neck, go straight out
and then probably give it to another person.
So they're saying it's like a medical miracle
that there was no exit, that the shell was actually
found or the bullet was found in his skin. So
that's where they're saying that it was a .30
-06? .30 -06. Well, .30 -06 is the rifle that
they found. Oh, but the shells. Yeah, and they
they've confirmed around. It's the same thing.
Is it that specific shell? I don't know guns
very well, but. That shell has to be with that
gun. That shell can't be from another gun. Well,
I don't. So your thing is there's ballistics.
There's markings on the shell casing. There was
no shell recovered. So ballistics can be run
on the outside. They're kind of like the canister
that the bullet sits in that could match it to
the barrel. But there was no shell found. Normally
that gets discharged like on the ground. Like
where the shooter is. Right. Like if you're shooting
like the semi -automatic or a handgun, as soon
as you pull the trigger, that little each metal
pops out. Okay. Do you think he just grabbed
it for a dip? Yeah. With some of these, I think
even like with the bolt action, and I'm really
not like much of a gun person either, when you
chamber it and you pull the trigger, the shell
stays in there until you flip that bolt and open
it. So essentially he could have gotten rid of
the shell wherever he wanted to. Yeah. They said,
yes, the bullet size matches the .30 -06 is what
we're being told. Yeah. But obviously what you
see The wound in his neck and what that video
demonstrates is two very very different things.
So here's my theory That's crazy. I I've heard
and I don't know where don't ask me for sources.
I'm not a pro I've heard or read that that Charlie
would wear a bulletproof vest. Yes types of events.
Yeah Not uncommon when you're in the public eye,
but hear me out gang The angle of that bullet
comes in This is very soft tissue. It doesn't
necessarily need to like explode because there's
just very little friction It's like you could
just go in make a very small entry point But
what if I haven't heard anybody say this? Yeah,
what if it's coming down at an angle it enters
and it catches the bulletproof vest on the back
end and That's how it stays in Right. I don't
know full prove s are like if there's the kevlar
on the back also i really have no idea if it's
just like front i'm sure it's both sides that
is the only thing that makes sense to me about
how the shell could have been found in his body
still but don't you think they would have said
that by this point if they ever wanted to tell
us the truth yeah like cash patel director of
the fbi came out and said we got our guy we got
him we got the right one two hours later the
dude's wandering around the streets and it's
like oh Wasn't the guy it was lies immediate.
Yeah, and there's there's so much on this I'm
sure most of you have heard a lot of the theories
But like the more, you know, the less, you know,
you dive in and it just gets worse and worse
There's just more like outlandish crazy stuff
even stuff. I was just reading tonight crazy
stuff all over the place, but I'm I'm not out
on him being shot with a .36 round. I think it's
plausible that it it went in at an angle and
maybe caught the bulletproof vest on the back
end if there is protection on the back side.
Or we're just being completely and utterly lied
to. I wish in that video he would have demonstrated
what it would look like if it went directly in
the neck exactly where Charlie was hit. I don't
think that this video was made in response to
Charlie Clark. It may have been. I don't know.
Oh, okay. But like I was talking to my dad. Yeah,
I was talking to my dad about this how Like,
people were already like, oh, the bullet wound's
too small, this and that. My thought is like,
it is a very rare thing for a human to be shot
with a deer hunting rifle. Like, that's not what
the school shootings use. Like, that's not like,
you know, the gun -toting freaks that do these
violent crimes. They're not usually using the
hunting rifle. They're using semi -automatic,
like, rifles that are meant to kill. I feel sick
about that. It's nuts. It's crazy stuff. We live
in a world where getting real, true information
is impossible. And it's unfortunate. But what
I think has really just been kind of a blessing
about all this craziness is it's pointed a lot
of people to church. It's pointed a lot of people
to Jesus. I was not a Charlie Kirk guy before
all this happened. I'm not I would not say that
I'm a Charlie Kirk guy. I don't agree with everything
that he shared politically, but I I love that
his influence is like in his passing has been
purely good, at least for the people that can
see that his life did not need to be taken. And
yes, it's insane. It's insane that it happened.
But that all being said, 30 out six to the neck.
What do you guys think? Doctor confirmed bullet
found in his body still so let us know what you
guys think about about just the bullet Just just
go there. We don't have to talk about motives.
We don't talk about all stuff that I taught and
if I were I Even want to like just a very minor
plug on the subject. We we are very much Christian
people. We are very religious people, and we
always have been. This is the culture that we
were raised in. But I empathize for people that
don't have any religious background. It's not
so much. It doesn't so much have to be Jesus,
even though Jesus saves and there's such a great
message in his life. And we love Jesus. I just
like for the people that don't have any religious
convictions, it's just surrendering to something
larger than yourself. We're not the center of
the universe and the people like. It's easy to
get trapped in this. The world revolves around
you and what's important to you and your religious
views. It's like, no, what's really important
is like being able to look at the person next
to you and be like, I love you. I might not agree
with everything you say, but like I love you
and I'm going to be there for you despite whatever
differences we might have about anything. None
of that stuff matters. It's all secondary to
we're a community of humans and like we should
be looking out for the people next to us and
finding more common ground than fighting and
sitting in an echo chambering and getting further
and further apart on stuff that we'll never be
able to change. We'll never be able to change
any of this really dumb stuff that we fight about.
Yeah, definitely. And while we're doing that,
these people are just lying to us the entire
time and just getting wealthier. So that's fun.
We live up for us. True words have not been spoken.
Stick with it. the American dollar. I could plug
a hundred podcasts I'd listen to. If you guys
want, just message us. I'll give you all the
details. There's so many things that I've listened
to, but man, just be good to people. That's the
message of all this chaos. Be good. Submit to
higher power. It's not all about you. I want
to repent some more. Let's go, Joe. Church Joe's
come out to play. So now we're going to go to
my conspiracy that I was learning about. This
is called the Dead Internet. theory. Okay, so
let's talk about one of the creepiest internet
conspiracies out there, the dead internet theory.
The idea is simple, but kind of terrifying. It
says that most of what you see online isn't made
by people anymore. It's bots talking to bots,
AI generating posts and algorithms pushing same
recycled content to us over and over. Basically,
the internet we grew up with is dead. This theory
first started making the rounds around 2016 when
a poster named Illuminati Pirate shared it on
some message boards. According to Wikipedia,
he claimed that almost all online activity is
fake. Bots creating posts, bots replying to those
posts, and then algorithms deciding what we actually
get to see. It's not just random spam either.
The idea is that it's coordinated, controlled
by governments or corporations to shape how we
see. Now, people online started noticing things
that felt off. The Guardian wrote about it recently
and described this eerie vibe. The web feels
more sterile, more repetitive, like there are
fewer genuine voices and more polished, manufactured
content. Some even pointed to examples like the
shrimp Jesus meme, literally AI -generated images
of shrimp combined with religious art. These
bizarre posts got thousands of likes and comments
but when you look closely those accounts don't
really feel human. There are real numbers that
make this theory sound a little less crazy too.
Studies show that almost half of all web traffic
is bots. Add in AI tools that can churn out endless
text, images, even fake reviews and suddenly
the idea that bots could be flooding our feeds
doesn't sound so far -fetched. I pulled a couple
quotes straight from Reddit threads when people
were debating this because they were really able
to capture the creep factor. One person explained
it like this. The entire internet is all bots
talking to each other. There are no people on
the internet. Another user added, places where
verifying your human is mandatory will become
the last bastions of real content. And honestly,
doesn't that already feel true? Think about CAPTCHA.
Think about private discords or even live video
chats. Those are the places where you know you're
dealing with real people. But of course, not
everyone buys into it. Skeptics say it's exaggerated.
Sure. bots exist, but they're not replacing humans
completely. Someone on our NoSurf wrote, I personally
think the internet, especially social media,
is saturated with bots and fakery, but there
are plenty of real people around too. So maybe
the internet isn't dead, but it's definitely
crowded. And honestly, here's the part that freaks
me out. What if you're scrolling right now and
half the likes, half the comments, even half
the accounts you follow aren't real? So my question
for you is, do you think there is the dead internet
theory? Do you think that's a real thing? Yeah,
it's So I don't the dead internet theory. I've
never heard it categorized in that way. Really?
100, 100 percent. There are bots that are just
triggering the echo chamber. Yes. There's no
doubt about it. 100 percent. I have to say they're
so cruel and governments are doing it. And it's
it is a very it's a conspiracy, but it's a very
real conspiracy. And anybody could do it. You
order bots to like interact with or promote a
certain idea. And it's like, it could be anything.
They agree with you, and they say, they champion
you. They're like, couldn't have said it better,
blah, blah, blah. Like, you're absolutely right.
Or it's coming to attack whatever was said. Like,
trying to stir up that whole debate thing. Yeah,
the engagement. It is absolutely true that there
are tons and tons of bots on the internet. The
freaking, the bots, you guys are jerks. And the
people ordering the bots, Leave the old people
alone. Yeah, they're gonna get it so bad. So
dirty this guy He sent me the same screenshot
three different times where a fake Elon Musk
profile has a blue check mark in the display
photo and it's why the title is just you on and
it's it's like reposted your tweet, like my dad
replied to something, like, sharing his opinion,
and he's sending me these text messages, like,
I've never shared my opinion publicly, I've never
had strong convictions, but, like, did Elon repost
this? And I'd be like, no, I'm sorry, Dad, that's
like some bot from somewhere, that's not a real
person. I'm dead. And he sent it to me multiple
times, and I think even different iterations
of some fake Elon Musk account. has just been
targeting this poor fella. He's got his, he's
gained, he's posted a little bit on X, he's got
about 38 followers. Wow. The bots, they just,
they're going after him. Go follow him, guys.
Yeah, I don't even know his at, I'm not on X,
but regardless, the dang bots. They're all over
the internet and they're just out here hurting
the boomers. I feel like with the dead internet
theory, though, it just like really made me feel
like, oh, like, it's so true. Social media does
have such like a sterile like it's so recycled.
Sterile is such a perfect word for it because
that's truly just like it's like a freaking Petri
dish. A lot of it is just echo chamber material.
Yeah. It's like you're hearing the same junk.
That's a good way. And like. In our defense like
we just shared the Charlie Kirk take like as
if that's not been your entire feed for the last
14 days, but so here's your Cycled content again,
but it's different Joe Rogan clearly believes
that like simple things like I mean just humanity
Things like doing stand -up comedy or having
conversations with people even podcasts where
you're interacting like this Like you can't really
replicate the true humanity of it. Yeah. That's
going to be valuable forever. This next one,
I had to do a little bit of digging because there's
not very many conspiracies that I haven't heard
of. This was new. Really? You ready for the title?
This just comes from the subreddit conspiracy.
Oh, okay. It's a little older. This was not posted
within the last week. We'll put it that way.
Okay. Title says, my uncle swears something impossible
happened at the World Trade Center debris site.
He's kept it bottled up until now. Hmm. throw
away for obvious reasons. My uncle, who's a retired
NYC sanitation supervisor, told me a story last
night he's apparently held in for over 20 years.
He worked crews sorting debris near the south
pile after 9 -11. He said guys didn't talk about
what they saw down there, too much trauma, too
many eyes watching, but after some drinks he
finally spilled something that sounded nothing
like the usual horror stories. According to him,
his crew's spotted a small steel box buried under
twisted beams about the size of a drawer, wrapped
in oil cloth and duct tape, and it was way too
clean compared to the wreckage. Before they could
touch it, a black SUV rolled up. Two men in suits
got out, showed IDs, and told everyone to step
back. Then it got weird. He says the air got
heavy, like static in your skull, and then this
white light erupted around the box. Not a spotlight.
He said it came from inside the thing. He remembers
feeling frozen and then a burning zap across
the stomach and then nothing. When he came to,
the box and the SUV were gone, and so were the
two coworkers that were standing closest to it.
Here's the part that shook me. He says he later
found out those two workers had been reassigned
off site the very next day. Their names disappeared
from crew sheets, almost like they never worked
there at all. He had asked around. Some people
remembered them, but nobody would talk about
where they'd gone. It was like they'd been pulled
out of reality and paper trail scrub. When he
woke up that day, he had a perfect circular mark
on his belly, like a burn or an injection scar.
Since then, he's had vivid dreams of bright hallways
and being restrained while figures studied him.
Yo, aliens in the World Trade Center? Come on.
He doesn't call them aliens outright, but that's
what he's describing. He said he's kept quiet
because the official line was, quote, Keep your
head down and do the work. He's not a story guy.
He's the type to remember truck numbers and coffee
breaks, not talk about blowing boxes and missing
coworkers. That's what makes me wonder if there's
more to this than just a stress string. I have
never heard of aliens in 9 -11. I've heard other
conspiracies about 9 -11, but I've never heard
anything about aliens. I'm just sure there's
more out there of like that. Well, apparently
that's crazy. Maybe this guy was just like tripping
on acid. That's cleaning up all that wreckage.
I'm sure about my god. Reasonable response. That's
crazy. A sanitation worker like imagine he's
cleaning up the World Trade Center and all of
a sudden there's this like thing that an SUV.
Come on. There's always an SUV with alien stories.
There's always but like SUV like or a van. Maybe
a UFO. Maybe like the thing like hovers down
like you see the orb in the sky and then all
of a sudden it's like descending and then you're
in the pillar. Stop. I don't know. That's crazy.
Never been abducted, but I don't think I believe
it. I don't believe the conspiracy, but you know,
hey. No, I'll draw the line of 9 -11 conspiracies.
I'm actually going to stay away from that entirely.
But Joe Rogan's been going back and forth on
aliens a little bit lately. Really? Does he believe
in them? He's been like an active believer for
a long time. And then he's like, kind of like
not totally sure. Oh, wow. So he's kind of going
back on it. He's kind of going back. But then
I listened to his episode today and he sounded
a little bit more back on track. He's all over
the place. But come on, Joe, you know, it's cool
about somebody like Joe or really anybody that's
named Joe. I mean, what's in a name? No, but
I appreciate people that are willing to change
their mind. Yeah, that's true. That's a hard
quality to find in this day and age. It's an
important one. So yeah, I am one of those people
that is working on that. It's to your defense.
It's like you're probably amongst. A lot of people
I'm that way with most things. Yeah, you are
I do I do like to like learn new things and be
like Maybe it's different than we thought. Yeah,
you just like to go against what I think. Yeah,
I just want to argue I Missed the opportunity
to be like, no, I don't. Yeah. Yeah that there
you go. Hey, you're growing Well, this is my
last one and this is a conspiracy that I think
we have all talked about in our lifetime This
is the moon landing hoax. Oh, this is fake. Really?
I just mean in general. Never heard of this.
Okay. So let me start off with a question. What
if one of the greatest achievements in human
history never actually happened? What if that
famous moment, Neil Armstrong stepping onto the
surface of the moon in 1969, the words one small
step for man. One giant leap for mankind was
really just a Hollywood production filmed right
here on Earth. That's the heart of one of the
most famous conspiracy theories of all time,
the moon landing hoax. So, July 20th, 1969. Millions
of people watched Neil Armstrong take that first
step, but almost immediately skeptics started
whispering, what if it was all fake? What if
the United States staged the moon landing on
a soundstage just to beat the Soviets in the
space race? According to Live Science, Polls
show that even today, about 6 % of Americans
believe the moon landing never happened. That's
like low. Six? Six percent. That has to be at
least like 36. At least. That might not sound
huge, but that's millions of people and their
arguments are surprisingly detailed. One of the
biggest claims, the flag. In the video, it looks
like the American flag is rippling even though
there's no air or wind on the moon. Believers
say it's proof there was a fan blowing on a soundstage.
NASA says, nope, the astronauts used a telescoping
rod to hold the flag out when they twisted it
into the ground. It caused a ripple that just
stayed there. Another claim, the shadows. Conspiracy
theorists point to photos where shadows don't
look parallel. They argued that it means multiple
studio lights were used, but MythBusters actually
tested this, recreating the scene with one light
source, like the sun, and sure enough, uneven
terrain makes shadows look non -parallel. There's
also the missing stars theory. In all those photos
from the moon, the sky looks black with no stars.
Shouldn't space be filled with them? Skeptics
love this one. NASA's answer? The cameras were
set for daylight exposure. The surface of the
moon is so bright from sunlight that stars simply
didn't show up on film. And then there's this
idea that it was all filmed by Stanley Kubrick,
the director of 2001, A Space Odyssey. This one's
more tongue -in -cheek, but it's spread everywhere
online. People claim Kubrick confessed in an
interview before he died. Spoiler alert. That
video is a parody made by a filmmaker, not a
real confession. But what makes this conspiracy
so fascinating isn't the science, it's the persistence.
Teen Vogue wrote about how the moon hoax remains
one of the most talked about conspiracy theories
across generations. Like even with decades of
evidence with moon rocks, satellites, telescopes,
even China's recent moon landings, people still
cling to the idea that it was fake. I found a
reddit thread where someone said, My dad is a
moon landing denier, and no matter how much evidence
I show him, he says it's all propaganda. Another
user replied, I was there. I watched it live.
If it was fake, they had the best special effects
team of all time. So maybe the real question
is, why do people want to believe it was fake?
Is it about mistrust of government? Is it about
liking the idea that we've been fooled? Or is
it just more fun to think we're living in a coverup?
Either way, one small step for man turned into
one giant leap for conspiracy theories. That
is the fundamental conspiracy theory that is
Absolutely, it never happened Okay, but I feel
like it was crazy though because then I was doing
all this research on it obviously you hear me
tell the story like there is Facts to prove what
people are saying like the shadows or whatever
like they're able to like combat it with an answer
But I just still feel like it's fake Look for
me. It will always it will only ever be about
common sense and what what makes sense I don't
know enough I don't know what freaking camera
they used okay so their exposure settings were
set so that them being absolutely blazed by the
Sun made it so that stars weren't visible that
seems as you can see the darkness of the space
yeah that seems hard to believe. But maybe that's
true. I don't know. The definitive thing for
me that makes me think it was fake is 1968? Nine,
I believe. 1968, 1969. Why have we not gone back?
Exactly. We are United States. You think Trump
as our president is not like, let's go back and
let's prove to everyone that we're the greatest.
We can do all these things. Of all the presidents,
he's not even thinking twice about doing that.
Well, it's like in these ultra rich people, they
want to figure out how to make life on Mars.
Like that's we're focused on something completely
different. Meanwhile, what can we just like,
I'll do anything on the moon. Get up there. Get
up there and fly a drone. I don't know. Do something.
Yeah. Because why? Yeah. I've heard people say
it's too expensive. Like, do you know how much
money we blow on other things? We put money is
not real. We freaking print it. It's numbers
on a screen like it's I don't buy it. We can
just keep going into more and more debt. The
moon landing is fake in my opinion. You guys
tell us what you think. Maybe we're dumb. Anyways,
yeah, everything's a conspiracy at this point.
Maybe birds are fake. Maybe birds are fake. I
actually saw one today flying when I was driving
and I thought it was a drone. So there's that.
I was cleaning a pool today. This is no joke.
I was cleaning a pool today and I was checking
a pump basket and I heard the loudest bird squawking.
I thought it was like right on top of me. Oh
my God. No joke. I was like, yo, that is terrifying.
And like had to get the pump basket out. It was
like locked in. Rotated up. The bird made a few
noises. Looked up. I'm not even just saying this
for the episode. There was no bird there. Oh,
I'm completely serious. I work in like a movie.
It flew as it was going. We landscape backyards.
Like, yeah, it could be anything, but. I was
very curious. It was not a salmon. Really? It's
like a rich person's like fake bird on the corner
just trying to scare you or watching you. Yeah.
Or like some extravagant pet. Yeah. Some exotic
parrot. I don't know. My gosh. What? Glad you're
safe. That's it. I, guys, I love conspiracy theories.
Thanks for joining us for this episode. As always,
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