WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.059 Welcome back to Internet Frenzy. Welcome back, 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:06.580 baby. Guys, we've missed you. We're together 00:00:06.580 --> 00:00:10.160 again. We're back. No more Whitney Solo episodes. 00:00:10.539 --> 00:00:14.560 I would love to know how I did. Yeah, actually, 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.579 don't don't tell us. Don't hurt her feelings. 00:00:19.009 --> 00:00:20.690 I'm just kidding. I actually don't know I haven't 00:00:20.690 --> 00:00:22.929 listened to it. So I need to keep it. I'll probably 00:00:22.929 --> 00:00:26.350 keep it. It's fine Yeah, you should you literally 00:00:26.350 --> 00:00:28.469 listen to podcasts all day long while you work. 00:00:28.510 --> 00:00:31.829 So you should be listening That's true audiobooks 00:00:31.829 --> 00:00:34.990 podcasts you name it and it's I've been so deep 00:00:34.990 --> 00:00:37.530 in the rabbit holes Which is partially why we're 00:00:37.530 --> 00:00:38.649 gonna talk about what we're gonna talk about 00:00:38.649 --> 00:00:41.270 today Yes, but before we do if you're watching 00:00:41.270 --> 00:00:43.009 on YouTube if that's where you're joining us 00:00:43.009 --> 00:00:45.090 from you're gonna see I'm I'm dressed a little 00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:49.590 different, right? It's not It's not to commemorate 00:00:49.590 --> 00:00:52.229 Charlie Kirk. You might have thought that. Yes. 00:00:52.609 --> 00:00:55.670 That would be acceptable. No, I just came from 00:00:55.670 --> 00:00:57.869 a meeting with one of my church leaders, actually. 00:00:58.570 --> 00:01:00.909 And before, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to change. 00:01:01.090 --> 00:01:03.509 And I was like, you know what? No, make a statement 00:01:03.509 --> 00:01:07.209 because it's 2025. And you know what that means? 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:13.209 It's time for us to welcome change, work on us. 00:01:13.709 --> 00:01:16.879 At least that's where I'm at. I enjoy working 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:18.780 on myself. I want to be the best version of myself 00:01:18.780 --> 00:01:21.260 I can be. This week's episode. You're not ready. 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:24.340 We're about to hit you with some crazy shizz. 00:01:24.579 --> 00:01:26.939 All right. This week's episode is birds aren't 00:01:26.939 --> 00:01:31.040 real, but this episode is. Yeah. So this was 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.180 Joe's idea. He really loved this title and he 00:01:33.180 --> 00:01:35.120 wanted to go with it. So let us know if you like 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.340 it. There are so many conspiracy theories floating 00:01:38.340 --> 00:01:43.659 around right now. So many. It is. It is absolutely 00:01:43.659 --> 00:01:47.189 inundating, but I'm here for it. If you love 00:01:47.189 --> 00:01:49.250 conspiracy theories. There's like the conspiracy 00:01:49.250 --> 00:01:51.109 theories where you're like, no, that could never 00:01:51.109 --> 00:01:53.829 happen. Like, you know, for the conspiracy theorists, 00:01:53.870 --> 00:01:55.629 they hear this, this might be a small percentage 00:01:55.629 --> 00:01:58.730 of our listeners. Adrenochrome, Pizzagate, like 00:01:58.730 --> 00:02:01.030 I'm here for all that stuff, but that's not where 00:02:01.030 --> 00:02:02.969 we're taking this. Obviously, there's the Charlie 00:02:02.969 --> 00:02:04.750 Kirk stuff. Yeah. We're going to talk about just 00:02:04.750 --> 00:02:07.450 a little bit of that. We've got some fun stuff 00:02:07.450 --> 00:02:10.849 to share. And are birds even real? Like, do you 00:02:10.849 --> 00:02:14.099 do you know for sure that pigeons are real? What 00:02:14.099 --> 00:02:16.020 if they're just little homing devices that can 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:20.280 just like Thuggy just be like so creepy. Oh wait, 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:21.919 and you went to Target again this week. That's 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:29.960 crazy Target sponsor me, please. Oh, please I 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:31.960 mean even just chip in Joanna like it doesn't 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:33.819 have to be whole Target just like something. 00:02:33.819 --> 00:02:37.289 Oh, that would be nice I am someone that's not 00:02:37.289 --> 00:02:39.849 a huge girly on conspiracy theories. It makes 00:02:39.849 --> 00:02:42.330 my brain wanna explode. It's just too much for 00:02:42.330 --> 00:02:45.090 me. I'd rather sometimes just be oblivious to 00:02:45.090 --> 00:02:47.669 everything. Like I'm just gonna focus on my home 00:02:47.669 --> 00:02:50.250 and my family. Like I can't. This outside world 00:02:50.250 --> 00:02:53.889 stuff, it just blows my mind. But I dug deep 00:02:53.889 --> 00:02:56.870 in this episode and I've got some crazy conspiracies 00:02:56.870 --> 00:02:59.490 to come out you guys with, so. I'm ready. I'm 00:02:59.490 --> 00:03:01.969 excited. But to start off this episode, we've 00:03:01.969 --> 00:03:04.129 got to tell you guys which one was the fake story 00:03:04.129 --> 00:03:06.990 of last week. If you're new to our podcast, every 00:03:06.990 --> 00:03:10.669 week we tell four stories on the episode based 00:03:10.669 --> 00:03:13.270 on the theme of the episode. And one of them 00:03:13.270 --> 00:03:16.469 is fake generated by Chachi Beauty and also our 00:03:16.469 --> 00:03:19.229 brains. We do a little mix of it. Maybe a little 00:03:19.229 --> 00:03:21.930 grok sprinkle. Yeah, just a little bit. But many 00:03:21.930 --> 00:03:24.639 Chachi Beauty. And you guys guess each week which 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.639 one you think's the fake. And every episode we 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.699 announce in the beginning which one of last week's 00:03:28.699 --> 00:03:31.319 episode was the fake story. So let's get on with 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:33.419 last week. If you have not listened to last week's 00:03:33.419 --> 00:03:37.780 episode, stop now and go to when my instincts 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:40.919 saved me. It's a crazy episode. So the first 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.300 story was about the random voice that saved the 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:45.280 girl's life. Her and her best friend were walking 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.919 on the sidewalk like they always do. And a random 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:50.240 voice told her to cross the road. she didn't 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.020 listen at first but then she was like what the 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:53.740 heck why is this still pushing me so she ended 00:03:53.740 --> 00:03:56.599 up crossing the road long story short the friend 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.360 that didn't cross the road got ran over so that's 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.960 story number one story number two anniversary 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.659 camp story while camping for their anniversary 00:04:05.659 --> 00:04:08.039 in a secluded area everything seemed normal until 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.240 night fell out of nowhere or both he and his 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.979 wife felt that creepy gut feeling like they weren't 00:04:13.979 --> 00:04:17.560 alone long story short they woke up to find a 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.819 half um Lit or what? How would you see that? 00:04:20.819 --> 00:04:23.980 Like a half lit cigarette on the floor? Next 00:04:23.980 --> 00:04:26.660 to their fire pit. So there was someone creeping 00:04:26.660 --> 00:04:30.180 around. Yeah. And they just they just left their 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:32.199 little dart right there and like half smoke. 00:04:32.459 --> 00:04:34.180 Yes. And they were like, oh my gosh, someone 00:04:34.180 --> 00:04:36.220 was here because they were hearing split steps 00:04:36.220 --> 00:04:37.519 in the middle of night and they were scared. 00:04:38.259 --> 00:04:40.839 And the wife turned to her husband and was like, 00:04:40.980 --> 00:04:42.860 babe, do you hear that? And he was like, shh, 00:04:42.860 --> 00:04:45.759 be quiet. And then he flashed the light. Well, 00:04:45.980 --> 00:04:48.420 yeah, I know it's creepy. No, you just sounded 00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:52.339 like exactly like the beginning of those Joyner 00:04:52.339 --> 00:04:54.819 Lucas songs. Maybe it's just the one song where 00:04:54.819 --> 00:04:59.139 it's like, shh, be quiet, they're coming. That's 00:04:59.139 --> 00:05:01.420 the beginning of a song. I know exactly what. 00:05:01.540 --> 00:05:03.800 Exactly like. Why did that kind of creep me out 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.019 though? I don't know why. Shh, be quiet, they're 00:05:07.019 --> 00:05:09.819 coming. That's so creepy. But I love that song, 00:05:09.939 --> 00:05:12.699 that song's a banger. Also, we're going camping 00:05:12.699 --> 00:05:17.379 this weekend, so I'd love to hear that. I know! 00:05:17.610 --> 00:05:20.329 This one was childhood warning. There was a girl 00:05:20.329 --> 00:05:22.089 that was hanging out with a group of friends 00:05:22.089 --> 00:05:24.649 and they were hanging out with this older man 00:05:24.649 --> 00:05:26.910 and this man really was like drawn to this little 00:05:26.910 --> 00:05:28.850 girl and the little girl felt really creepy about 00:05:28.850 --> 00:05:31.310 it. This man started coming around to their house 00:05:31.310 --> 00:05:33.790 and like bringing gifts. Mom answered the door 00:05:33.790 --> 00:05:35.509 and was like, get the frick away from my daughter. 00:05:35.889 --> 00:05:38.550 You are not allowed to be around her. I don't 00:05:38.550 --> 00:05:41.069 care who you are and how nice you are, get away. 00:05:41.689 --> 00:05:44.800 And come to find out years later, he had done 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.399 really bad things to a younger girl and he was, 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.040 he got caught. And so she was just talking about 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.519 how she was thankful her instinct saved her, 00:05:52.660 --> 00:05:54.980 but she feels terrible for the younger girl that 00:05:54.980 --> 00:05:59.139 didn't like escape him kind of thing. Yeah. And 00:05:59.139 --> 00:06:01.579 then the last one is the dark night story. This 00:06:01.579 --> 00:06:03.519 one ties into the, when it was the release of 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.500 the dark night, someone had plans to see the 00:06:05.500 --> 00:06:08.459 movie opening weekend at that same theater, but 00:06:08.459 --> 00:06:10.779 at last minute, their gut told them not to go 00:06:10.779 --> 00:06:15.430 and to go back to bed. And so he didn't go. Aurora, 00:06:15.910 --> 00:06:20.449 Colorado. Yes. Whoa. Yep. One of those was the 00:06:20.449 --> 00:06:23.769 fake. Joe, you were not here for the episode. 00:06:23.850 --> 00:06:25.990 So which one do you think is the fake before 00:06:25.990 --> 00:06:30.209 I announce which one it was? I think I'm pretty 00:06:30.209 --> 00:06:32.649 good at this. Yeah, you are. I mean, there's 00:06:32.649 --> 00:06:35.829 a there's a few candidates there. So I'm just 00:06:35.829 --> 00:06:38.069 going to guess that the girl that crossed the 00:06:38.069 --> 00:06:40.810 street and the other girl didn't. That's fake. 00:06:41.350 --> 00:06:43.350 Right, right, right. You're really good at this, 00:06:43.370 --> 00:06:45.589 but you actually sucked because it was actually 00:06:45.589 --> 00:06:48.689 the anniversary camp story. Really? Yeah, that 00:06:48.689 --> 00:06:51.209 was the fake. Okay. And you want to know where 00:06:51.209 --> 00:06:54.149 that came from in my heart? Our anniversary camping 00:06:54.149 --> 00:06:56.149 trip. Our anniversary camping trip. I told the 00:06:56.149 --> 00:06:59.290 story after I read it when we were roasting starbers 00:06:59.290 --> 00:07:02.110 at the fire pit. When we pulled in, we had never 00:07:02.110 --> 00:07:03.990 camped somewhere like this before. It was so 00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:06.240 secluded. We've never been somewhere where it 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.980 was like full on camping, camping. When it was 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:11.639 like higher elevation, so there was aspen trees. 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.079 It was beautiful. Licker woods. Yeah, it was 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.560 beautiful. We were right behind a river. Like 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.240 we were on a river. It was that. And we pulled 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.160 in and I felt uneasy. Like I didn't feel safe 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.699 there. And I remember. Yes. And when we were 00:07:24.699 --> 00:07:28.160 roasting starvers, you were like, we like heard 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:29.600 something and we both looked at each other and 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.560 we're like, what the frick is that? And then 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.300 you shine the light and boom, a fat skunk was 00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:36.579 right there. So anyways, that's kind of where 00:07:36.579 --> 00:07:39.959 my mind was going as I created that story. Yeah. 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.980 The skunk was just like back on his haunches, 00:07:43.019 --> 00:07:45.660 just smoking a cigarette. It was crazy. It was 00:07:45.660 --> 00:07:49.060 crazy. He's like, yo, you want to drag? Oh my 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:53.959 gosh. Okay. So that was last week's episode and 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.540 that was the fake. Now let's get on with this 00:07:57.540 --> 00:08:00.129 week's episode. I'm excited. We should. I think 00:08:00.129 --> 00:08:17.810 you should hit us off with the first story. So 00:08:17.810 --> 00:08:25.750 this comes from the subreddit conspiracy, which, 00:08:25.930 --> 00:08:28.389 as you could imagine, is flooded with Charlie 00:08:28.389 --> 00:08:31.500 Kirk. stuff right now. Yeah. And there's literally 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:34.000 a million sub blocks that we can go into on this. 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.559 And I've listened to all of them. But the one 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:38.559 thing that has been on my mind lately, and I 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:41.700 saw a post about this, is that he was shot with 00:08:41.700 --> 00:08:45.500 a .30 -06 round. So for those that don't know, 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.019 and this is probably going to be news for you, 00:08:47.100 --> 00:08:51.200 a .30 -06 is a hunting rifle. So think like bolt 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.720 action. You like put one in the chamber and you're 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.200 taking down a massive animal like elk. in like 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.659 moose like it is designed to one shot like take 00:09:03.659 --> 00:09:07.600 down a beast of animal well big big rounds it's 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.860 not like the ar -15s like that are popular killing 00:09:11.860 --> 00:09:14.240 machines which what they are somebody posted 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:19.200 a video recreation of a round going into a gelatin 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.980 head of like basically trying to recreate what 00:09:21.980 --> 00:09:25.539 a headshot would look like from a 30 -06 it's 00:09:25.539 --> 00:09:28.559 it's a gelatin head with the human skull and 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.740 I'm gonna show you we're not gonna show the viewers 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:32.740 but I do want you to be able to see this and 00:09:32.740 --> 00:09:35.220 react to it because obviously we've all seen 00:09:35.220 --> 00:09:49.779 the wound we've seen what he did oh my god there's 00:09:49.779 --> 00:09:53.700 no way he was shot by that Okay, so I'm so interested 00:09:53.700 --> 00:09:56.379 in this because first of all, that's okay. That's 00:09:56.379 --> 00:09:59.100 crazy. That's that's massive, right? And so you 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:02.279 guys are gonna be able to see it It's not this 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.159 is not like You know a little round where it 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.259 goes in and like there's not much damage caused 00:10:07.259 --> 00:10:09.860 that obliterates the skull now for your sake 00:10:09.860 --> 00:10:11.960 Okay, this is what I wanted to share when it 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.440 hits the skull and the bullet like redirects 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.480 it. Maybe it goes all the way through. But what 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:19.940 you're seeing is it goes into the gelatin, which 00:10:19.940 --> 00:10:22.779 is recreating like our facial structure, and 00:10:22.779 --> 00:10:24.659 then it hits the skull. And then when it does 00:10:24.659 --> 00:10:29.080 that, that's when it blows up. So there was basically 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:31.740 no resistance for Charlie. If he was shot by 00:10:31.740 --> 00:10:34.419 this caliber, which we can't rule out, it went 00:10:34.419 --> 00:10:37.399 into his neck, which is very, very soft tissue. 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.159 Like it's not necessarily going to react the 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.340 same way because this is hitting the skull and 00:10:42.340 --> 00:10:45.570 then So the consistency of the gelatin is supposed 00:10:45.570 --> 00:10:48.169 to be exactly the same. And that's where you're 00:10:48.169 --> 00:10:50.389 supposed to call his word or is there like science 00:10:50.389 --> 00:10:53.190 to map that out? Well, listen, all I am is an 00:10:53.190 --> 00:10:56.730 internet sleuth. I'm not a scientist. OK, so 00:10:56.730 --> 00:10:59.669 I mean, I'm judging his word for it based on 00:10:59.669 --> 00:11:03.110 the demonstration. OK, all right. But that being 00:11:03.110 --> 00:11:05.350 said, I'm really interested in this stuff, you 00:11:05.350 --> 00:11:08.309 guys. I'm interested in in the bullet loop, because 00:11:08.309 --> 00:11:11.450 if you saw the video of the one evil. It's insanely 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:14.590 graphic. I don't want to make light of what happened 00:11:14.590 --> 00:11:18.409 to him at all, but it's so frustrating that we're 00:11:18.409 --> 00:11:22.110 being lied to. It is so frustrating to feel like 00:11:22.110 --> 00:11:24.870 we're not getting a straight story. Yeah. So 00:11:24.870 --> 00:11:27.309 here, I'm going to give my theory to the audience 00:11:27.309 --> 00:11:29.750 and we welcome whatever you guys want to share 00:11:29.750 --> 00:11:32.190 with us. Give me your thoughts. I want to hear 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:35.929 what you think about the just just the bullet 00:11:35.929 --> 00:11:40.740 alone, the shell, the damage, whatever. what 00:11:40.740 --> 00:11:43.120 they have said. There was an NBC News article 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.759 that was posted that said that there was no exit 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.559 route. So this bullet went into his neck and 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.860 didn't come out. And Andrew Colvett, who is one 00:11:53.860 --> 00:11:55.700 of Charlie's like, I don't know if he's a producer. 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.580 He's a good friend of Charlie's. He runs the 00:11:57.580 --> 00:12:01.259 Charlie Kirk show. He kind of made it in evangelical 00:12:01.259 --> 00:12:03.139 things, saying like, it's just another way that 00:12:03.139 --> 00:12:05.440 Charlie saved more lives because there were people 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.960 staying behind him. Normally, a 36 round would 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.950 go straight through. your neck, go straight out 00:12:11.950 --> 00:12:13.830 and then probably give it to another person. 00:12:14.190 --> 00:12:16.090 So they're saying it's like a medical miracle 00:12:16.090 --> 00:12:20.169 that there was no exit, that the shell was actually 00:12:20.169 --> 00:12:22.730 found or the bullet was found in his skin. So 00:12:22.730 --> 00:12:24.830 that's where they're saying that it was a .30 00:12:24.830 --> 00:12:27.850 -06? .30 -06. Well, .30 -06 is the rifle that 00:12:27.850 --> 00:12:31.610 they found. Oh, but the shells. Yeah, and they 00:12:31.610 --> 00:12:34.610 they've confirmed around. It's the same thing. 00:12:34.909 --> 00:12:36.889 Is it that specific shell? I don't know guns 00:12:36.889 --> 00:12:39.730 very well, but. That shell has to be with that 00:12:39.730 --> 00:12:42.809 gun. That shell can't be from another gun. Well, 00:12:42.950 --> 00:12:45.750 I don't. So your thing is there's ballistics. 00:12:46.029 --> 00:12:48.330 There's markings on the shell casing. There was 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:51.269 no shell recovered. So ballistics can be run 00:12:51.269 --> 00:12:53.529 on the outside. They're kind of like the canister 00:12:53.529 --> 00:12:56.009 that the bullet sits in that could match it to 00:12:56.009 --> 00:12:58.389 the barrel. But there was no shell found. Normally 00:12:58.389 --> 00:13:01.009 that gets discharged like on the ground. Like 00:13:01.009 --> 00:13:03.850 where the shooter is. Right. Like if you're shooting 00:13:03.850 --> 00:13:06.149 like the semi -automatic or a handgun, as soon 00:13:06.149 --> 00:13:08.320 as you pull the trigger, that little each metal 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.639 pops out. Okay. Do you think he just grabbed 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:13.639 it for a dip? Yeah. With some of these, I think 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.299 even like with the bolt action, and I'm really 00:13:16.299 --> 00:13:18.360 not like much of a gun person either, when you 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:19.799 chamber it and you pull the trigger, the shell 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.679 stays in there until you flip that bolt and open 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.940 it. So essentially he could have gotten rid of 00:13:24.940 --> 00:13:27.639 the shell wherever he wanted to. Yeah. They said, 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.860 yes, the bullet size matches the .30 -06 is what 00:13:30.860 --> 00:13:35.360 we're being told. Yeah. But obviously what you 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.120 see The wound in his neck and what that video 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.059 demonstrates is two very very different things. 00:13:42.059 --> 00:13:45.879 So here's my theory That's crazy. I I've heard 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.039 and I don't know where don't ask me for sources. 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:53.500 I'm not a pro I've heard or read that that Charlie 00:13:53.500 --> 00:13:56.879 would wear a bulletproof vest. Yes types of events. 00:13:56.940 --> 00:14:00.320 Yeah Not uncommon when you're in the public eye, 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:04.659 but hear me out gang The angle of that bullet 00:14:04.659 --> 00:14:07.710 comes in This is very soft tissue. It doesn't 00:14:07.710 --> 00:14:09.870 necessarily need to like explode because there's 00:14:09.870 --> 00:14:12.330 just very little friction It's like you could 00:14:12.330 --> 00:14:17.649 just go in make a very small entry point But 00:14:17.649 --> 00:14:20.570 what if I haven't heard anybody say this? Yeah, 00:14:20.850 --> 00:14:23.610 what if it's coming down at an angle it enters 00:14:23.610 --> 00:14:26.330 and it catches the bulletproof vest on the back 00:14:26.330 --> 00:14:29.789 end and That's how it stays in Right. I don't 00:14:29.789 --> 00:14:33.659 know full prove s are like if there's the kevlar 00:14:33.659 --> 00:14:36.320 on the back also i really have no idea if it's 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.639 just like front i'm sure it's both sides that 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.320 is the only thing that makes sense to me about 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:44.899 how the shell could have been found in his body 00:14:44.899 --> 00:14:46.860 still but don't you think they would have said 00:14:46.860 --> 00:14:49.799 that by this point if they ever wanted to tell 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.799 us the truth yeah like cash patel director of 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.379 the fbi came out and said we got our guy we got 00:14:55.379 --> 00:14:58.240 him we got the right one two hours later the 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:00.120 dude's wandering around the streets and it's 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.679 like oh Wasn't the guy it was lies immediate. 00:15:03.860 --> 00:15:07.159 Yeah, and there's there's so much on this I'm 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.700 sure most of you have heard a lot of the theories 00:15:09.700 --> 00:15:11.779 But like the more, you know, the less, you know, 00:15:11.820 --> 00:15:14.759 you dive in and it just gets worse and worse 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.639 There's just more like outlandish crazy stuff 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:19.940 even stuff. I was just reading tonight crazy 00:15:19.940 --> 00:15:24.039 stuff all over the place, but I'm I'm not out 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.220 on him being shot with a .36 round. I think it's 00:15:28.220 --> 00:15:31.289 plausible that it it went in at an angle and 00:15:31.289 --> 00:15:33.350 maybe caught the bulletproof vest on the back 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:35.490 end if there is protection on the back side. 00:15:36.169 --> 00:15:38.470 Or we're just being completely and utterly lied 00:15:38.470 --> 00:15:41.769 to. I wish in that video he would have demonstrated 00:15:41.769 --> 00:15:44.210 what it would look like if it went directly in 00:15:44.210 --> 00:15:47.169 the neck exactly where Charlie was hit. I don't 00:15:47.169 --> 00:15:49.669 think that this video was made in response to 00:15:49.669 --> 00:15:51.450 Charlie Clark. It may have been. I don't know. 00:15:51.529 --> 00:15:55.429 Oh, okay. But like I was talking to my dad. Yeah, 00:15:55.649 --> 00:15:57.929 I was talking to my dad about this how Like, 00:15:58.110 --> 00:16:00.070 people were already like, oh, the bullet wound's 00:16:00.070 --> 00:16:03.529 too small, this and that. My thought is like, 00:16:03.929 --> 00:16:07.250 it is a very rare thing for a human to be shot 00:16:07.250 --> 00:16:09.769 with a deer hunting rifle. Like, that's not what 00:16:09.769 --> 00:16:12.370 the school shootings use. Like, that's not like, 00:16:12.370 --> 00:16:14.970 you know, the gun -toting freaks that do these 00:16:14.970 --> 00:16:17.070 violent crimes. They're not usually using the 00:16:17.070 --> 00:16:20.070 hunting rifle. They're using semi -automatic, 00:16:20.070 --> 00:16:23.200 like, rifles that are meant to kill. I feel sick 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.799 about that. It's nuts. It's crazy stuff. We live 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.799 in a world where getting real, true information 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.139 is impossible. And it's unfortunate. But what 00:16:33.139 --> 00:16:36.899 I think has really just been kind of a blessing 00:16:36.899 --> 00:16:40.059 about all this craziness is it's pointed a lot 00:16:40.059 --> 00:16:42.899 of people to church. It's pointed a lot of people 00:16:42.899 --> 00:16:46.220 to Jesus. I was not a Charlie Kirk guy before 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:48.259 all this happened. I'm not I would not say that 00:16:48.259 --> 00:16:50.700 I'm a Charlie Kirk guy. I don't agree with everything 00:16:50.700 --> 00:16:55.559 that he shared politically, but I I love that 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.879 his influence is like in his passing has been 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:03.580 purely good, at least for the people that can 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:06.359 see that his life did not need to be taken. And 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.000 yes, it's insane. It's insane that it happened. 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.539 But that all being said, 30 out six to the neck. 00:17:12.819 --> 00:17:15.349 What do you guys think? Doctor confirmed bullet 00:17:15.349 --> 00:17:18.309 found in his body still so let us know what you 00:17:18.309 --> 00:17:21.730 guys think about about just the bullet Just just 00:17:21.730 --> 00:17:23.710 go there. We don't have to talk about motives. 00:17:23.710 --> 00:17:26.569 We don't talk about all stuff that I taught and 00:17:26.569 --> 00:17:31.529 if I were I Even want to like just a very minor 00:17:31.529 --> 00:17:34.970 plug on the subject. We we are very much Christian 00:17:34.970 --> 00:17:37.759 people. We are very religious people, and we 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:39.460 always have been. This is the culture that we 00:17:39.460 --> 00:17:42.180 were raised in. But I empathize for people that 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:44.640 don't have any religious background. It's not 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:46.539 so much. It doesn't so much have to be Jesus, 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.759 even though Jesus saves and there's such a great 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.900 message in his life. And we love Jesus. I just 00:17:51.900 --> 00:17:54.059 like for the people that don't have any religious 00:17:54.059 --> 00:17:56.539 convictions, it's just surrendering to something 00:17:56.539 --> 00:17:59.680 larger than yourself. We're not the center of 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.519 the universe and the people like. It's easy to 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.579 get trapped in this. The world revolves around 00:18:04.579 --> 00:18:06.859 you and what's important to you and your religious 00:18:06.859 --> 00:18:09.900 views. It's like, no, what's really important 00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:11.880 is like being able to look at the person next 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.400 to you and be like, I love you. I might not agree 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:16.900 with everything you say, but like I love you 00:18:16.900 --> 00:18:19.519 and I'm going to be there for you despite whatever 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.319 differences we might have about anything. None 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.319 of that stuff matters. It's all secondary to 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.319 we're a community of humans and like we should 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.119 be looking out for the people next to us and 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.299 finding more common ground than fighting and 00:18:34.299 --> 00:18:37.119 sitting in an echo chambering and getting further 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:39.819 and further apart on stuff that we'll never be 00:18:39.819 --> 00:18:42.240 able to change. We'll never be able to change 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.799 any of this really dumb stuff that we fight about. 00:18:46.059 --> 00:18:48.319 Yeah, definitely. And while we're doing that, 00:18:48.660 --> 00:18:50.539 these people are just lying to us the entire 00:18:50.539 --> 00:18:52.559 time and just getting wealthier. So that's fun. 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.279 We live up for us. True words have not been spoken. 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.710 Stick with it. the American dollar. I could plug 00:19:00.710 --> 00:19:03.849 a hundred podcasts I'd listen to. If you guys 00:19:03.849 --> 00:19:06.630 want, just message us. I'll give you all the 00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:08.650 details. There's so many things that I've listened 00:19:08.650 --> 00:19:11.230 to, but man, just be good to people. That's the 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:15.250 message of all this chaos. Be good. Submit to 00:19:15.250 --> 00:19:17.930 higher power. It's not all about you. I want 00:19:17.930 --> 00:19:22.190 to repent some more. Let's go, Joe. Church Joe's 00:19:22.190 --> 00:19:24.170 come out to play. So now we're going to go to 00:19:24.170 --> 00:19:26.289 my conspiracy that I was learning about. This 00:19:26.289 --> 00:19:29.359 is called the Dead Internet. theory. Okay, so 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.299 let's talk about one of the creepiest internet 00:19:31.299 --> 00:19:34.039 conspiracies out there, the dead internet theory. 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.440 The idea is simple, but kind of terrifying. It 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.700 says that most of what you see online isn't made 00:19:39.700 --> 00:19:42.539 by people anymore. It's bots talking to bots, 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.380 AI generating posts and algorithms pushing same 00:19:45.380 --> 00:19:48.519 recycled content to us over and over. Basically, 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.420 the internet we grew up with is dead. This theory 00:19:51.420 --> 00:19:54.140 first started making the rounds around 2016 when 00:19:54.140 --> 00:19:57.319 a poster named Illuminati Pirate shared it on 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.200 some message boards. According to Wikipedia, 00:19:59.740 --> 00:20:02.099 he claimed that almost all online activity is 00:20:02.099 --> 00:20:04.900 fake. Bots creating posts, bots replying to those 00:20:04.900 --> 00:20:07.640 posts, and then algorithms deciding what we actually 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.460 get to see. It's not just random spam either. 00:20:10.819 --> 00:20:12.759 The idea is that it's coordinated, controlled 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.319 by governments or corporations to shape how we 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.200 see. Now, people online started noticing things 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.200 that felt off. The Guardian wrote about it recently 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:23.319 and described this eerie vibe. The web feels 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.109 more sterile, more repetitive, like there are 00:20:26.109 --> 00:20:29.450 fewer genuine voices and more polished, manufactured 00:20:29.450 --> 00:20:31.910 content. Some even pointed to examples like the 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:35.690 shrimp Jesus meme, literally AI -generated images 00:20:35.690 --> 00:20:38.380 of shrimp combined with religious art. These 00:20:38.380 --> 00:20:40.519 bizarre posts got thousands of likes and comments 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:42.559 but when you look closely those accounts don't 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.839 really feel human. There are real numbers that 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:47.000 make this theory sound a little less crazy too. 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:50.339 Studies show that almost half of all web traffic 00:20:50.339 --> 00:20:53.799 is bots. Add in AI tools that can churn out endless 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.099 text, images, even fake reviews and suddenly 00:20:56.099 --> 00:20:58.240 the idea that bots could be flooding our feeds 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.640 doesn't sound so far -fetched. I pulled a couple 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:02.539 quotes straight from Reddit threads when people 00:21:02.539 --> 00:21:05.059 were debating this because they were really able 00:21:05.059 --> 00:21:07.910 to capture the creep factor. One person explained 00:21:07.910 --> 00:21:10.430 it like this. The entire internet is all bots 00:21:10.430 --> 00:21:12.329 talking to each other. There are no people on 00:21:12.329 --> 00:21:14.509 the internet. Another user added, places where 00:21:14.509 --> 00:21:16.910 verifying your human is mandatory will become 00:21:16.910 --> 00:21:19.349 the last bastions of real content. And honestly, 00:21:19.589 --> 00:21:22.509 doesn't that already feel true? Think about CAPTCHA. 00:21:22.650 --> 00:21:24.970 Think about private discords or even live video 00:21:24.970 --> 00:21:27.130 chats. Those are the places where you know you're 00:21:27.130 --> 00:21:29.690 dealing with real people. But of course, not 00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:32.569 everyone buys into it. Skeptics say it's exaggerated. 00:21:33.069 --> 00:21:35.539 Sure. bots exist, but they're not replacing humans 00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:38.940 completely. Someone on our NoSurf wrote, I personally 00:21:38.940 --> 00:21:40.740 think the internet, especially social media, 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.859 is saturated with bots and fakery, but there 00:21:42.859 --> 00:21:45.359 are plenty of real people around too. So maybe 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:47.319 the internet isn't dead, but it's definitely 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.599 crowded. And honestly, here's the part that freaks 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:51.680 me out. What if you're scrolling right now and 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.940 half the likes, half the comments, even half 00:21:53.940 --> 00:21:57.119 the accounts you follow aren't real? So my question 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.579 for you is, do you think there is the dead internet 00:21:59.579 --> 00:22:01.940 theory? Do you think that's a real thing? Yeah, 00:22:01.940 --> 00:22:04.559 it's So I don't the dead internet theory. I've 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.059 never heard it categorized in that way. Really? 00:22:08.339 --> 00:22:13.299 100, 100 percent. There are bots that are just 00:22:13.299 --> 00:22:16.900 triggering the echo chamber. Yes. There's no 00:22:16.900 --> 00:22:19.940 doubt about it. 100 percent. I have to say they're 00:22:19.940 --> 00:22:22.880 so cruel and governments are doing it. And it's 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.380 it is a very it's a conspiracy, but it's a very 00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.859 real conspiracy. And anybody could do it. You 00:22:27.859 --> 00:22:31.359 order bots to like interact with or promote a 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.940 certain idea. And it's like, it could be anything. 00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:37.700 They agree with you, and they say, they champion 00:22:37.700 --> 00:22:39.839 you. They're like, couldn't have said it better, 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.400 blah, blah, blah. Like, you're absolutely right. 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.440 Or it's coming to attack whatever was said. Like, 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.279 trying to stir up that whole debate thing. Yeah, 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.319 the engagement. It is absolutely true that there 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.460 are tons and tons of bots on the internet. The 00:22:57.460 --> 00:23:00.180 freaking, the bots, you guys are jerks. And the 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:03.079 people ordering the bots, Leave the old people 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.339 alone. Yeah, they're gonna get it so bad. So 00:23:06.339 --> 00:23:08.480 dirty this guy He sent me the same screenshot 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:12.539 three different times where a fake Elon Musk 00:23:12.539 --> 00:23:15.059 profile has a blue check mark in the display 00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:19.339 photo and it's why the title is just you on and 00:23:19.339 --> 00:23:22.890 it's it's like reposted your tweet, like my dad 00:23:22.890 --> 00:23:25.769 replied to something, like, sharing his opinion, 00:23:25.809 --> 00:23:27.589 and he's sending me these text messages, like, 00:23:27.869 --> 00:23:30.130 I've never shared my opinion publicly, I've never 00:23:30.130 --> 00:23:34.250 had strong convictions, but, like, did Elon repost 00:23:34.250 --> 00:23:37.829 this? And I'd be like, no, I'm sorry, Dad, that's 00:23:37.829 --> 00:23:41.309 like some bot from somewhere, that's not a real 00:23:41.309 --> 00:23:44.710 person. I'm dead. And he sent it to me multiple 00:23:44.710 --> 00:23:46.769 times, and I think even different iterations 00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:50.180 of some fake Elon Musk account. has just been 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:54.460 targeting this poor fella. He's got his, he's 00:23:54.460 --> 00:23:56.539 gained, he's posted a little bit on X, he's got 00:23:56.539 --> 00:24:00.720 about 38 followers. Wow. The bots, they just, 00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.079 they're going after him. Go follow him, guys. 00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:07.640 Yeah, I don't even know his at, I'm not on X, 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.839 but regardless, the dang bots. They're all over 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:13.559 the internet and they're just out here hurting 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.400 the boomers. I feel like with the dead internet 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.339 theory, though, it just like really made me feel 00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:21.339 like, oh, like, it's so true. Social media does 00:24:21.339 --> 00:24:24.579 have such like a sterile like it's so recycled. 00:24:24.740 --> 00:24:26.660 Sterile is such a perfect word for it because 00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:30.039 that's truly just like it's like a freaking Petri 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.900 dish. A lot of it is just echo chamber material. 00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:35.380 Yeah. It's like you're hearing the same junk. 00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:39.480 That's a good way. And like. In our defense like 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:42.480 we just shared the Charlie Kirk take like as 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.720 if that's not been your entire feed for the last 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:49.740 14 days, but so here's your Cycled content again, 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.420 but it's different Joe Rogan clearly believes 00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:57.119 that like simple things like I mean just humanity 00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.700 Things like doing stand -up comedy or having 00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:02.000 conversations with people even podcasts where 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:05.079 you're interacting like this Like you can't really 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.259 replicate the true humanity of it. Yeah. That's 00:25:08.259 --> 00:25:10.900 going to be valuable forever. This next one, 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:13.339 I had to do a little bit of digging because there's 00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:15.339 not very many conspiracies that I haven't heard 00:25:15.339 --> 00:25:18.460 of. This was new. Really? You ready for the title? 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.539 This just comes from the subreddit conspiracy. 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.119 Oh, okay. It's a little older. This was not posted 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:26.980 within the last week. We'll put it that way. 00:25:26.980 --> 00:25:30.140 Okay. Title says, my uncle swears something impossible 00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:33.339 happened at the World Trade Center debris site. 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.529 He's kept it bottled up until now. Hmm. throw 00:25:36.529 --> 00:25:40.109 away for obvious reasons. My uncle, who's a retired 00:25:40.109 --> 00:25:43.670 NYC sanitation supervisor, told me a story last 00:25:43.670 --> 00:25:46.190 night he's apparently held in for over 20 years. 00:25:46.930 --> 00:25:48.990 He worked crews sorting debris near the south 00:25:48.990 --> 00:25:52.009 pile after 9 -11. He said guys didn't talk about 00:25:52.009 --> 00:25:54.289 what they saw down there, too much trauma, too 00:25:54.289 --> 00:25:56.890 many eyes watching, but after some drinks he 00:25:56.890 --> 00:25:58.970 finally spilled something that sounded nothing 00:25:58.970 --> 00:26:01.950 like the usual horror stories. According to him, 00:26:02.690 --> 00:26:05.839 his crew's spotted a small steel box buried under 00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.099 twisted beams about the size of a drawer, wrapped 00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:11.660 in oil cloth and duct tape, and it was way too 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:14.220 clean compared to the wreckage. Before they could 00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:17.440 touch it, a black SUV rolled up. Two men in suits 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.640 got out, showed IDs, and told everyone to step 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:24.680 back. Then it got weird. He says the air got 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.299 heavy, like static in your skull, and then this 00:26:28.299 --> 00:26:32.099 white light erupted around the box. Not a spotlight. 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.140 He said it came from inside the thing. He remembers 00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:38.079 feeling frozen and then a burning zap across 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.839 the stomach and then nothing. When he came to, 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.240 the box and the SUV were gone, and so were the 00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.680 two coworkers that were standing closest to it. 00:26:46.099 --> 00:26:48.539 Here's the part that shook me. He says he later 00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:50.700 found out those two workers had been reassigned 00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:53.740 off site the very next day. Their names disappeared 00:26:53.740 --> 00:26:55.700 from crew sheets, almost like they never worked 00:26:55.700 --> 00:26:58.119 there at all. He had asked around. Some people 00:26:58.119 --> 00:26:59.880 remembered them, but nobody would talk about 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.640 where they'd gone. It was like they'd been pulled 00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.299 out of reality and paper trail scrub. When he 00:27:05.299 --> 00:27:07.740 woke up that day, he had a perfect circular mark 00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:11.119 on his belly, like a burn or an injection scar. 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.380 Since then, he's had vivid dreams of bright hallways 00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:16.900 and being restrained while figures studied him. 00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:23.720 Yo, aliens in the World Trade Center? Come on. 00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:27.950 He doesn't call them aliens outright, but that's 00:27:27.950 --> 00:27:30.049 what he's describing. He said he's kept quiet 00:27:30.049 --> 00:27:32.369 because the official line was, quote, Keep your 00:27:32.369 --> 00:27:35.210 head down and do the work. He's not a story guy. 00:27:35.950 --> 00:27:38.049 He's the type to remember truck numbers and coffee 00:27:38.049 --> 00:27:40.410 breaks, not talk about blowing boxes and missing 00:27:40.410 --> 00:27:42.910 coworkers. That's what makes me wonder if there's 00:27:42.910 --> 00:27:45.710 more to this than just a stress string. I have 00:27:45.710 --> 00:27:49.569 never heard of aliens in 9 -11. I've heard other 00:27:49.569 --> 00:27:51.970 conspiracies about 9 -11, but I've never heard 00:27:51.970 --> 00:27:54.259 anything about aliens. I'm just sure there's 00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:58.460 more out there of like that. Well, apparently 00:27:58.460 --> 00:28:02.859 that's crazy. Maybe this guy was just like tripping 00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:06.099 on acid. That's cleaning up all that wreckage. 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:11.880 I'm sure about my god. Reasonable response. That's 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.579 crazy. A sanitation worker like imagine he's 00:28:14.579 --> 00:28:16.480 cleaning up the World Trade Center and all of 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.079 a sudden there's this like thing that an SUV. 00:28:19.450 --> 00:28:22.170 Come on. There's always an SUV with alien stories. 00:28:22.329 --> 00:28:26.890 There's always but like SUV like or a van. Maybe 00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:30.849 a UFO. Maybe like the thing like hovers down 00:28:30.849 --> 00:28:33.609 like you see the orb in the sky and then all 00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:35.849 of a sudden it's like descending and then you're 00:28:35.849 --> 00:28:40.049 in the pillar. Stop. I don't know. That's crazy. 00:28:40.289 --> 00:28:42.609 Never been abducted, but I don't think I believe 00:28:42.609 --> 00:28:45.150 it. I don't believe the conspiracy, but you know, 00:28:45.309 --> 00:28:48.559 hey. No, I'll draw the line of 9 -11 conspiracies. 00:28:48.619 --> 00:28:50.279 I'm actually going to stay away from that entirely. 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.960 But Joe Rogan's been going back and forth on 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.200 aliens a little bit lately. Really? Does he believe 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.400 in them? He's been like an active believer for 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.559 a long time. And then he's like, kind of like 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.759 not totally sure. Oh, wow. So he's kind of going 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.380 back on it. He's kind of going back. But then 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:09.960 I listened to his episode today and he sounded 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.609 a little bit more back on track. He's all over 00:29:12.609 --> 00:29:15.130 the place. But come on, Joe, you know, it's cool 00:29:15.130 --> 00:29:17.829 about somebody like Joe or really anybody that's 00:29:17.829 --> 00:29:22.710 named Joe. I mean, what's in a name? No, but 00:29:22.710 --> 00:29:26.329 I appreciate people that are willing to change 00:29:26.329 --> 00:29:29.309 their mind. Yeah, that's true. That's a hard 00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:31.690 quality to find in this day and age. It's an 00:29:31.690 --> 00:29:34.910 important one. So yeah, I am one of those people 00:29:34.910 --> 00:29:38.410 that is working on that. It's to your defense. 00:29:38.549 --> 00:29:41.109 It's like you're probably amongst. A lot of people 00:29:41.109 --> 00:29:43.630 I'm that way with most things. Yeah, you are 00:29:43.630 --> 00:29:46.730 I do I do like to like learn new things and be 00:29:46.730 --> 00:29:49.109 like Maybe it's different than we thought. Yeah, 00:29:49.109 --> 00:29:51.710 you just like to go against what I think. Yeah, 00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:56.910 I just want to argue I Missed the opportunity 00:29:56.910 --> 00:29:59.589 to be like, no, I don't. Yeah. Yeah that there 00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:02.829 you go. Hey, you're growing Well, this is my 00:30:02.829 --> 00:30:05.670 last one and this is a conspiracy that I think 00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:09.720 we have all talked about in our lifetime This 00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:16.079 is the moon landing hoax. Oh, this is fake. Really? 00:30:16.619 --> 00:30:19.099 I just mean in general. Never heard of this. 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:23.000 Okay. So let me start off with a question. What 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.380 if one of the greatest achievements in human 00:30:25.380 --> 00:30:29.339 history never actually happened? What if that 00:30:29.339 --> 00:30:32.200 famous moment, Neil Armstrong stepping onto the 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.299 surface of the moon in 1969, the words one small 00:30:35.299 --> 00:30:38.869 step for man. One giant leap for mankind was 00:30:38.869 --> 00:30:41.549 really just a Hollywood production filmed right 00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:43.670 here on Earth. That's the heart of one of the 00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:45.890 most famous conspiracy theories of all time, 00:30:45.930 --> 00:30:50.750 the moon landing hoax. So, July 20th, 1969. Millions 00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:53.529 of people watched Neil Armstrong take that first 00:30:53.529 --> 00:30:55.829 step, but almost immediately skeptics started 00:30:55.829 --> 00:30:58.490 whispering, what if it was all fake? What if 00:30:58.490 --> 00:31:00.730 the United States staged the moon landing on 00:31:00.730 --> 00:31:03.150 a soundstage just to beat the Soviets in the 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:06.390 space race? According to Live Science, Polls 00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:08.769 show that even today, about 6 % of Americans 00:31:08.769 --> 00:31:11.430 believe the moon landing never happened. That's 00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:15.750 like low. Six? Six percent. That has to be at 00:31:15.750 --> 00:31:19.789 least like 36. At least. That might not sound 00:31:19.789 --> 00:31:21.970 huge, but that's millions of people and their 00:31:21.970 --> 00:31:24.849 arguments are surprisingly detailed. One of the 00:31:24.849 --> 00:31:27.589 biggest claims, the flag. In the video, it looks 00:31:27.589 --> 00:31:29.670 like the American flag is rippling even though 00:31:29.670 --> 00:31:32.750 there's no air or wind on the moon. Believers 00:31:32.750 --> 00:31:35.430 say it's proof there was a fan blowing on a soundstage. 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.859 NASA says, nope, the astronauts used a telescoping 00:31:38.859 --> 00:31:40.859 rod to hold the flag out when they twisted it 00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:43.019 into the ground. It caused a ripple that just 00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:47.339 stayed there. Another claim, the shadows. Conspiracy 00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.500 theorists point to photos where shadows don't 00:31:49.500 --> 00:31:52.210 look parallel. They argued that it means multiple 00:31:52.210 --> 00:31:55.430 studio lights were used, but MythBusters actually 00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:58.509 tested this, recreating the scene with one light 00:31:58.509 --> 00:32:01.069 source, like the sun, and sure enough, uneven 00:32:01.069 --> 00:32:03.869 terrain makes shadows look non -parallel. There's 00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:06.009 also the missing stars theory. In all those photos 00:32:06.009 --> 00:32:08.390 from the moon, the sky looks black with no stars. 00:32:08.710 --> 00:32:11.049 Shouldn't space be filled with them? Skeptics 00:32:11.049 --> 00:32:14.589 love this one. NASA's answer? The cameras were 00:32:14.589 --> 00:32:16.799 set for daylight exposure. The surface of the 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.019 moon is so bright from sunlight that stars simply 00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:21.359 didn't show up on film. And then there's this 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.000 idea that it was all filmed by Stanley Kubrick, 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.180 the director of 2001, A Space Odyssey. This one's 00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:30.579 more tongue -in -cheek, but it's spread everywhere 00:32:30.579 --> 00:32:33.539 online. People claim Kubrick confessed in an 00:32:33.539 --> 00:32:36.119 interview before he died. Spoiler alert. That 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.440 video is a parody made by a filmmaker, not a 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.660 real confession. But what makes this conspiracy 00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:44.000 so fascinating isn't the science, it's the persistence. 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.980 Teen Vogue wrote about how the moon hoax remains 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:48.940 one of the most talked about conspiracy theories 00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:51.559 across generations. Like even with decades of 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.819 evidence with moon rocks, satellites, telescopes, 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.859 even China's recent moon landings, people still 00:32:56.859 --> 00:33:00.319 cling to the idea that it was fake. I found a 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.720 reddit thread where someone said, My dad is a 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.180 moon landing denier, and no matter how much evidence 00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:08.420 I show him, he says it's all propaganda. Another 00:33:08.420 --> 00:33:10.700 user replied, I was there. I watched it live. 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:12.960 If it was fake, they had the best special effects 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.440 team of all time. So maybe the real question 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.799 is, why do people want to believe it was fake? 00:33:19.180 --> 00:33:21.380 Is it about mistrust of government? Is it about 00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:24.019 liking the idea that we've been fooled? Or is 00:33:24.019 --> 00:33:26.319 it just more fun to think we're living in a coverup? 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.680 Either way, one small step for man turned into 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.029 one giant leap for conspiracy theories. That 00:33:32.029 --> 00:33:35.970 is the fundamental conspiracy theory that is 00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:39.450 Absolutely, it never happened Okay, but I feel 00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:40.970 like it was crazy though because then I was doing 00:33:40.970 --> 00:33:42.809 all this research on it obviously you hear me 00:33:42.809 --> 00:33:46.890 tell the story like there is Facts to prove what 00:33:46.890 --> 00:33:49.089 people are saying like the shadows or whatever 00:33:49.089 --> 00:33:51.809 like they're able to like combat it with an answer 00:33:51.809 --> 00:33:55.970 But I just still feel like it's fake Look for 00:33:55.970 --> 00:33:59.549 me. It will always it will only ever be about 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.259 common sense and what what makes sense I don't 00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:05.339 know enough I don't know what freaking camera 00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:08.500 they used okay so their exposure settings were 00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:12.500 set so that them being absolutely blazed by the 00:34:12.500 --> 00:34:15.000 Sun made it so that stars weren't visible that 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.300 seems as you can see the darkness of the space 00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:24.289 yeah that seems hard to believe. But maybe that's 00:34:24.289 --> 00:34:26.989 true. I don't know. The definitive thing for 00:34:26.989 --> 00:34:31.170 me that makes me think it was fake is 1968? Nine, 00:34:31.250 --> 00:34:36.110 I believe. 1968, 1969. Why have we not gone back? 00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:40.130 Exactly. We are United States. You think Trump 00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:43.110 as our president is not like, let's go back and 00:34:43.110 --> 00:34:45.110 let's prove to everyone that we're the greatest. 00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:47.929 We can do all these things. Of all the presidents, 00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:49.949 he's not even thinking twice about doing that. 00:34:50.130 --> 00:34:52.880 Well, it's like in these ultra rich people, they 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.420 want to figure out how to make life on Mars. 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.320 Like that's we're focused on something completely 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.380 different. Meanwhile, what can we just like, 00:35:01.420 --> 00:35:03.800 I'll do anything on the moon. Get up there. Get 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.219 up there and fly a drone. I don't know. Do something. 00:35:06.340 --> 00:35:09.699 Yeah. Because why? Yeah. I've heard people say 00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:12.639 it's too expensive. Like, do you know how much 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.579 money we blow on other things? We put money is 00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:17.739 not real. We freaking print it. It's numbers 00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:20.710 on a screen like it's I don't buy it. We can 00:35:20.710 --> 00:35:22.789 just keep going into more and more debt. The 00:35:22.789 --> 00:35:25.409 moon landing is fake in my opinion. You guys 00:35:25.409 --> 00:35:28.230 tell us what you think. Maybe we're dumb. Anyways, 00:35:28.650 --> 00:35:30.210 yeah, everything's a conspiracy at this point. 00:35:30.429 --> 00:35:32.929 Maybe birds are fake. Maybe birds are fake. I 00:35:32.929 --> 00:35:34.670 actually saw one today flying when I was driving 00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:36.630 and I thought it was a drone. So there's that. 00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:39.269 I was cleaning a pool today. This is no joke. 00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:41.349 I was cleaning a pool today and I was checking 00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:44.789 a pump basket and I heard the loudest bird squawking. 00:35:44.889 --> 00:35:47.800 I thought it was like right on top of me. Oh 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.199 my God. No joke. I was like, yo, that is terrifying. 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.639 And like had to get the pump basket out. It was 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.619 like locked in. Rotated up. The bird made a few 00:35:57.619 --> 00:36:00.000 noises. Looked up. I'm not even just saying this 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.320 for the episode. There was no bird there. Oh, 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.719 I'm completely serious. I work in like a movie. 00:36:05.780 --> 00:36:09.119 It flew as it was going. We landscape backyards. 00:36:09.460 --> 00:36:12.130 Like, yeah, it could be anything, but. I was 00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:14.949 very curious. It was not a salmon. Really? It's 00:36:14.949 --> 00:36:17.309 like a rich person's like fake bird on the corner 00:36:17.309 --> 00:36:19.710 just trying to scare you or watching you. Yeah. 00:36:19.710 --> 00:36:23.670 Or like some extravagant pet. Yeah. Some exotic 00:36:23.670 --> 00:36:26.809 parrot. I don't know. My gosh. What? Glad you're 00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.469 safe. That's it. I, guys, I love conspiracy theories. 00:36:30.590 --> 00:36:32.769 Thanks for joining us for this episode. As always, 00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:36.409 let us know which story, which turn of events, 00:36:36.710 --> 00:36:39.949 whatever. Conspiracy. Fake, which conspiracy 00:36:39.949 --> 00:36:42.920 you think is fake. Share your thoughts on everything 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:44.920 that's going on right now. This is very prevalent 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:46.500 in the world. That's why we thought we'd drop 00:36:46.500 --> 00:36:49.460 this. 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