Welcome back, y 'all. We are so excited for this
week's episode. It's a really good one. But first,
we need to talk about last week's stories. Sorry
if you hear some background noise. Our dogs are
eating their dinner. We had four stories last
week. One of them was the fake. Let's find out
officially which one was the fake. So there was,
would I be the a -hole if I divorced my wife
because she does not want me actively involved
in raising our children. That's story one. Story
two, coworker Jenna, she's being rude. Am I the
a -hole for blowing up on my coworker? Story
three, am I the a -hole for letting my husband's
mistress meal prep for him and the kids? Story
number four, am I the a -hole for wanting my
girl best friend to be the best man? That one
was a hot take on social media. Actually, it
wasn't even a hot take. Everyone was agreeing
that the girl should have been the best man.
Really? Yes, everyone every comment was like
she's the a -hole she's the a -hole and then
when I posted the update of She cheated on him.
They were like, yep. We knew he didn't like her
everyone and then at the end there's like a clip
where I say like he's still the a -hole and people
were getting on me about that they're like she
better have been joking because he is not the
a -hole it's him or her that is I was just gonna
ask how you feel about that cuz that was like
you didn't like yeah no cuz I'm just so I'm just
so about the girls feelings I feel like I'm more
drawn towards like sticking up for the girl but
Was kidding when I said that it was like sarcasm
and I mean it got people to chuckle So I'm fine
with it. But yeah, I got some heat on it for
sure. I was like, all right Fair I'll take it
the fake of last week was Am I the a -hole for
blowing up of my co -worker? Jenna story Jenna
story. So this is the one where she was microwaving
fish in the kitchen at work and then they're
at this like what was it like a party or something
and she like called her out was like Jenna stop
it you're a jerk just like the lamest little
comments so anyways not our juiciest fake story
but we tricked Kenna and Tanner when they were
here they chose I don't remember they both chose
a different one for the fake and they were both
wrong so we tricked them and that was like you
would have hoped that reality was fake some of
those stories were like They were like, you would
have thought the real ones were the fake ones.
Yeah, no, exactly. So now for this week, we are
so excited to talk about what the episode is.
And it is Mother -in -law from Hell. The old
monster -in -law, people. This is going to be
a good one. I feel like there's so many people
out here that can relate to having a mother -in
-law that they either hate or they just don't
really like or they're scared of, you know, or
they love them. The bottom line is that blending
families is not always easy to do. Right. Cultural
backgrounds are different. All that stuff. So
this story comes from the subreddit Mother in
Laws from Hell. My monster -in -law used our
miscarriage to make herself the victim Beyonce
thinks I'm overreacting how oh What okay go we've
been no contact with my fiance's mother for two
years. She's a textbook narcissist Manipulative
boundary -crushing and incapable of seeing beyond
herself every interaction with her is drama guilt
-tripping or manipulation She sent endless emotional
tirades to the family whatsapp, turned the smallest
things into chaos, and has always made it clear
that she sees me as a threat to her control over
my fiance. The breaking point back then was after
a family trip where she bombarded us with messages
blaming me for isolating her, saying things like
I was cold, heartless, and destroying the family.
She even sent a massive rant to the group chat
attacking me directly. My fiance confronted her
and her response was, science. Literary. She
gave him the silent treatment for months and
then reappeared like nothing had happened. Since
then she has pretended I don't exist. No hello,
no acknowledgement. Like I'm invisible. So we
cut contact. And honestly those two years without
her were the most peaceful of our relationship.
We could breathe again. Earlier this year we
got pregnant. Given everything, we chose not
to tell her. That moment wasn't hers to have.
It was ours. We wanted to build a new chapter
for our family. Not one she could infect with
her toxicity. Then we lost the baby. It was devastating.
Grief like that changes you. Changes your relationship.
It breaks something inside you that you can't
fully explain. And then somehow she found out.
Not from us, of course. And her very first reaction
wasn't compassion. It wasn't, I'm so sorry. It
was, you're blaming me. She's selfish. Maybe
God didn't want you to have the baby. Ew. That
is so repulsive. I'm not paraphrasing. She said
those exact words. No empathy, no humanity, just
centering herself, playing the victim, and even
daring to frame our miscarriage as divine punishment
for our choices. I cannot deal with that type
of stuff. That would be so... I'd punch her in
the face. Divine punishment? Give me a big, huge,
fat rake. Oh, okay. I heard the audio and something
inside me snapped, not just anger, pure rage.
Who does that? Who weaponizes someone's miscarriage
to make themselves the victim? So I told my fiance
no more, this time for real. Hard boundaries,
not maybe she'll change energy, not let's just
avoid her for now. I needed him to block her,
cut her off, and never let her feed on our grief
again. And he said I was overreacting. Then came
the cavalry, the sister and his stepdad. They
jumped in with guilt trips and manipulation,
telling him he was going too far, that she didn't
mean it like that, that she was just emotional,
that was making it worse. His sister said she
suffers because of the tension and can't see
him the same way anymore. His stepdad sent a
long message blaming me directly, comparing me
to his exes and saying my fiance had changed
because of me. And the worst part? It's working.
My fiance is pulling away. He's confused, defensive,
and distant. He doesn't see how toxic this all
is because he's been raised to tolerate it, to
minimize it, to survive in it. He thinks keeping
the peace is neutral, but in reality, it's siding
with her. Meanwhile, I feel alone. I'm grieving
a baby I lost, and now I feel like I'm losing
him too. And I'm so tired. This is in my head
every single day. I can accept that his personality
is more conflict avoidant than mine, but I cannot
accept him failing to protect our family when
we are under attack. Because that's what this
is, an attack. Let's be honest. That's exactly
what she wants to drive a wedge between us to
make me the scapegoat to keep him in orbit around
her So here I am posting because I feel like
I'm going crazy posting because I need to validate
what I feel Posting because I honestly don't
know what to do anymore How do you deal with
the partner who won't set hard boundaries with
the toxic parent even when it's already cost
you this much? How do you keep fighting for your
family when it feels like you're the only one
doing it? I want advice, I want perspective,
but mostly I just need to say this out loud.
This hurts so much more than I ever expected.
Oh, that's so heavy. This one is heavy. It's
so heavy because I completely see her side of
things and having it be a miscarriage. That's
like Joe and I, we had a miscarriage two years
ago. You can't really put words to that experience.
Like, I don't know. It's really hard. For me
personally, I feel like everyone grooves it differently.
For me, it was more of like a shock factor when
it all first happened. Then it was like slowly
as time went on. That's when I really started
like being more upset and like devastated by
it and could actually like reflect on it. So
I can relate in this. in a way of like what she's
going through with the miscarriage and to have
your own mother -in -law say those things to
like family and friends or whoever she was talking
to about it and getting that back oh my gosh
i don't blame her for wanting to cut ties at
all with that because i would be like that's
unforgivable at least for a bit like i need i
need time like f you kind of thing but i kind
of feel bad for him a little bit because that
is his family and i think you can speak more
to this because I mean, you see his side when
it comes to like, it's your family and you want
to stay close to them. Yeah. Well, what it really
comes down to is just what people's expectations
are. All that stuff, the sociology, how people
are raised, all that factors in. She kind of
makes it sound like he has no backbone, like
he has no spine in the situation. And some of
the comments were saying some of that stuff too.
And it's just so hard to take somebody from one
world. and have them empathize with somebody
from another world, that it's really hard to
breach that gap. Well, my thought was, after
reading the story, is that they need to hunker
down, and they need to mourn, and they need to
heal emotionally just from the miscarriage alone.
For her to kind of like wage war on the family,
I don't think she's doing herself as much favors
as she thinks she is. Being like, I didn't keep
her away from me. It's like, you're probably
just dealing with your loss more than anything.
Come together as a couple, be there for each
other, and heal. I don't know what that's supposed
to look like other than you just don't pay it
as much energy, maybe. Just don't make it about
their family because you can't win. You're putting
him in an impossible situation. It is so impossibly
difficult to cut ties or to go culture here,
to establish boundaries. It doesn't work the
way that people want it to work. There's no good
solution. It sucks. It sucks for OP. She lost
a baby. And I can only empathize for a mother,
because there's, like, hormones and stuff that
go into it. We were not planning the pregnancy
that we lost. I mean, it's just weird to think,
like, you can't have your random intrusive thoughts
of, like, what would be crazy if we had a baby
that was two right now, or whatever, you know?
It's like, you have these thoughts of, like,
what could have been. And I don't know if their
pregnancy was planned or not planned, but it
sounds like it. It's something that can affect
you for long periods of time, even with help.
It's. It is erratic and it's just significant.
It's not nothing, but that's what I think. I
mean, they need to focus on their own relationship
and mourn and heal. Let's go to story number
two. And this is off Reddit. This is mother -in
-law's from home. Tried to call herself mama
while talking to my baby. It finally happened
only took her eight months to grow the nerve
to try and call herself mama to my baby a little
bit of a backstory This woman made my pregnancy
a nightmare. There was always drama. She managed
to make everything about herself She didn't care
about the baby until he was born and she could
physically hold him I was ready to go no contact,
but I wanted my child to know his grandmother
She's visited her home and only has time with
them while one of us is around She treats him
more so as a doll she can hold to look at not
cuddle or a dancing monkey she can and make stand
up and practice walking because her son started
walking at six months. I'm constantly reminded.
She truly believes this, LOL. She hadn't visited
for about a month for various reasons, so my
husband FaceTimed her this afternoon. She didn't
know I was around and could hear everything.
It's the typical, how's my baby boy? My baby
is so smart. He looks exactly like you did when
you were his age, DH. And she says, look at mama
Z. I stopped what I was doing and started listening
to make sure I heard her right. Sure enough,
she doubles down. Baby boy, look at Mama Z. My
husband corrected her and told her she's not
mama. Thank heavens. Her excuse? She doesn't
think grandma suits her. She's not just a grandma.
Fine by me. We had already settled on ZZ being
her grandparent name for this very reason. ZZ.
Wow, anyone ZZ out there? Is there any ZZs? I've
never heard that before. As my husband continued
their conversation, he panned the camera over
to me and she goes, oh hi, I didn't realize you
were home. In the most sheepest way possible.
I was so mad I didn't have anything really to
say. I completely froze up from anger, unfortunately.
I just know she wouldn't have given this mama
Z a test if she knew I was in the room. Mama,
I still cannot believe the nerve of this woman.
Okay, let's think about this. Okay, guys, I got
a crazy story for you, though. This is one of
my worst stories I have ever done in my life,
okay? So you're about to hear it. So I nannied
this family, absolutely loved them, still have
a relationship with them, love, love, love the
family. My sister, I'm really, really close to
my sister, and I would always hang out with her
and my niece and nephew. And my sister always
would say, oh, come to mama, come to mama, come
to mama. Like, that was my sister saying whenever,
like, her Bodie my nephew would like start crying
or whatever and he's a baby. So anyways, I'm
always hearing that Well, it was like a Friday
So, you know, I'm about to go home and we're
outside and the family comes outside and the
mom comes outside Love her and I'm so thankful.
She hopefully never judged me on this but we're
outside and one of the little boys he was like
five at the time he fell onto like the rock by
the pool and he started crying and I literally
said oh come to mama and i right in front of
the mom you guys i and i just went i went pale
or i went bright red i don't know which one but
it was one of them and the mom just like looked
at me and i just like froze didn't look back
i just like stared into the abyss like oh my
hell he a comes over to me and i like hug him
and i'm like here go to your mom and i hand him
over to the mom And I was literally like, I wish
in that moment I would have been like, I don't
know why I just said that. I swear I have never
told him to come to mama and pretended to be
his mom before. Like I wish I would have said
something. I said nothing. I can't. And then
I go, okay, I'm going to head out. And I left.
You just stood on business. I said, come to mama.
If I had a nanny. They said that the way the
way I said it too. It was so just natural. It
was so coming to mama That is oh I thought I
thought for sure would be like I am NOT your
mom But I will help you in this moment, and you're
just like act go to your rid the real one I'm
the paid one you go to the one that pays me I
was sick. Just talking about it now makes me
so sick because I'm just like, I cannot believe
I said that. So when I hear this, I'm just dying
because it just reminds me of that crazy story
that I had one time. Only once. Don't worry.
I only did it once. So who do you think is the
a -hole? The mother -in -law? Really, if you
had to pick a side, mother -in -law or the girl?
The girl. Whoa, I think mother -in -law. It's
Mama Z. The only reason the mother -in -law would
be the a -hole in this story is because she was
like, I didn't know you were hung. I just think
grandmas need to figure out their name. You don't
have to go by grandma. Like that makes you feel
too old, but you're not mama. Go by Gigi, Mimi,
Mima, Nanny. Manu's flash, you are old. You're
all grandmas in my eyes. Yeah, you know what?
Grow up. All of you. I'm just kidding. You can
be called whatever you want. Just not mom. Grandma
vibes don't fit me. Well, you're a grandma now.
You're a grandma. The title of this one is, My
mother -in -law surprised us by painting our
kitchen while house sitting. Now she's furious.
We hate it. My husband and I just celebrated
our 10 year anniversary. We went on a getaway
and left our dog with my mother -in -law. We
honestly thought the worst thing we'd come home
to was a messy sink. Instead, she repainted our
entire kitchen. Our white cabinets, now bright
royal blue. The backsplash, yellow. And she even
hung up a random painting of sunflowers above
the stove. She was waiting for us when we walked
in beaming. I just love these colors. Doesn't
it brighten everything up so much? Why is so
boring? This gives your home personality. Look,
I even found the painting that ties it all together.
My husband and I just stood there. He finally
managed. Wow, that's really different. I added,
we definitely weren't expecting this. She laughed
and said, well, that's the fun of a surprise.
You'll love it once you get used to it. We didn't.
A week later, we sat down with her and said,
we know you meant well, but we actually don't
like the colors. This isn't our style. And now
we're stuck paying to change it back. Her face
changed instantly. Are you serious? I spent days
on that kitchen. Do you know how much I saved
you? You should be thanking me. My husband tried
to keep calm. Mom, we didn't want to change the
kitchen. We liked it the way it was. She shot
back. No, you liked it. She didn't. Don't you
see how much better it looks now? You're just
being ungrateful. Then she stormed out. Now she's
telling family that we insulted her gift and
that I only hate it because it was her idea.
Oh my gosh. So here we are out of money to fix
a kitchen we loved with a mother -in -law who
won't speak to us until we apologize for not
liking her surprise. Could you imagine you're
on your 10th year anniversary, which cheers to
them because marriage is not super easy, guys.
If you didn't know already, they went on an anniversary
and come home. I'm like looking at my beautiful
white cabinet kitchen and walking in and it being
bright yellow backsplash and blue cabinets with
a sunflower painting. When I think of backsplash,
though, like I don't think I'm big. Like I'm
imagining those royal blue cabinets. I could
probably get down with royal blue cabinets. Baby,
baby, baby, you're literally... His style is
so disgusting, you guys. Don't even listen to
him. What style? Like, I've not styled one thing.
You picked these chairs. That's true. You have
a comment if you like these chairs. If you don't,
if you think we should have gotten other ones,
then let us know. No. Do you think the mother
-in -law's that a -hole? Yeah. I mean, this one,
I always am a little bit, like, want to give
people the benefit of the doubt on gifts. I feel
bad because, like, did she sub it out? They didn't
say if she had somebody paint it or if she physically
did the work. I feel like, realistically, she
probably subbed it out because there's no way
an old grandma is going to be able to do... that
in a few days. She doesn't ought to do a freakin'
black splash. If I did pick the painting up at
Goodwill and she might have hung that, I don't
know. What if she got it in a Hobby Lobby? What
if she got it at an art convention? Oh. A farmer's
market, like it's real art. I don't know. If
you give a GIF that's out there though, you're
the asshole. You need to know, that was like
literally her just doing what she wanted thinking
it was like better than what they had. Yeah.
Alright. get a new mother -in -law yeah my story
here we go my mother -in -law has finally fully
shown her true colors this is off mother -in
-laws from home for some background i -32f have
been with my husband 32m for nearly 16 years
we're high school seahorses and have an incredible
relationship together We only just married this
past year, after nine years of being engaged.
This doesn't have anything to do with our relationship.
I just wanted to have a dream wedding and so
we waited until we were in a place financially
that we could afford to have everything we wanted.
Four years ago we moved in with my husband's
parents at their insistence. His mother claimed
she wanted to help us save money, but even back
then I was incredibly wary. She likes to control
situations, and I had worried she'd try to do
the same with us. But in the end, our rent was
going up, and I knew we'd be able to save money.
Not to mention they have a five -bedroom house
with a separate pool room, so I figured we'd
have plenty of space to not step on anyone's
toes. At first, things were fine. Well, as fine
as they could be. My husband never had a good
relationship with his father, as he was an incredibly
unkind man and alcoholic. My mother -in -law
has also always been passive aggressive towards
me, and I'm sure talks about me behind my back.
I'm not special though, because she does this
with most people who she doesn't consider her
family. Now getting into the problem that just
happened. Last month my sister -in -law graduated
from college. Her college is in a city six hours
away from us, but my husband and I still took
the time to travel down with the rest of the
family over the weekend to watch her graduate
and take her to a special dinner. That was all
fine, but the very next weekend my mother -in
-law planned to throw a huge expensive party
at the house to celebrate my sister -in -law
again. My husband and I had no problem with that
either, but we would only be able to attend the
first half of the party. You see, my aunt has
brain cancer and it's terminal. My family was
throwing an F cancer party the same night as
the graduation party, but we figured it would
be fine. The graduation party started at three
while my aunt's party wouldn't start until seven.
So we would just stay for the first few hours
and then go to the other party to support my
aunt. She didn't even want to have a large party
and had told my mother -in -law as much, but
had been ignored. My mother -in -law claimed
that this party was for her since she's the one
who had helped put my sister -in -law through
college. Anyways, the night of the party we stayed
and even helped set up for the party while my
husband made some of the food. Then at seven,
while everyone else was drinking and listening
to the band my mother -in -law had hired, we
left for my aunt's party. There were around 120
people in attendance, so we knew we wouldn't
be missed. This was proven true when the next
night my mother -in -law mentioned that she hadn't
seen us later in the night and had no idea we'd
left. My husband told her the situation and that
we had gone to my family's to support my aunt
because she had terminal brain cancer. This is
where everything fell apart and nothing will
ever be the same. to say that she didn't care
about my aunt, that she had already lived her
life, and we should have stayed at the party
because my sister -in -law is more important.
I was honestly speechless. There were others
of my husband's family members around, but they
weren't a part of the conversation, so I don't
believe any of them heard her. My husband proceeded
to yell at his mother until she just walked away.
I have been obviously furious with her ever since
and have been ignoring her. My husband said that
his mom was drunk when she said that and surely
didn't mean it. I wanted to believe that too
since it was such an evil thing to say. and I
couldn't imagine any sane person actually believing
it. While she's never been the most pleasant,
this was so far out of the field I could hardly
believe it. Last night while I was in my room,
apparently my mother -in -law approached my husband
and told him that I've been mean to her lately.
I haven't been mean to her. I just haven't gone
out of my way to be nice. He then decided to
confront her and told her she needed to apologize
for what she had said when she was drunk. He
thought she'd be ashamed when reminded of the
horrible things she said. To his horror, she
doubled down. Even while sober, she claimed it
was her right to have her beliefs, and her beliefs
are that it doesn't matter that my aunt is dying
from cancer and she doesn't care. This led into
a fight between her and my husband, and he finally
realized she's an irredeemable monster. He came
to our room and told me we were going to begin
the process of moving out and back into our town
home, back into our own place. I'm more than
fine with this. And before anyone tries to say
that we are being ungrateful because she has
supported us, no, it's actually the opposite.
For the last two and a half years, my husband
and I have been contributing around $1 ,500 per
month towards household bills, including buying
all the groceries and making dinner for her every
night. In my city, we can find a nice two -bedroom
apartment for $1 ,300, so we haven't actually
been saving money at all. And some of you might
ask, but why did you live with her so long? Well,
we had no intention of staying for four years,
but then two and a half years ago, my father
-in -law died from cancer. That's right. She,
of all people, should know the devastation of
cancer and have sympathy, but she's a selfish
narcissist, so nothing that doesn't directly
affect her matters. So my husband and I stayed
and helped pay the bills and made sure she was
fed and not alone, and this is what we get. She
even had the nerve to tell my husband that he's
been using her despite the fact you pay half
the bills. On the bright side, my husband has
finally admitted that there is no coming back
from this with his mother and once we move out
we will be going to no contact. I'll update if
anything else happens but at this point we're
just ready to leave and never look back. That
is just bananas. Somebody would say that. It's
always going to be emotionally volatile and drawing
such staunch lines in the sand. You have to protect
your peace. That is important for a relationship.
The relationship has to come first. This whole
thing, it sounds like that's an absolutely asinine
thing to say. It's so over the top, but it's
like... Yeah. How do you, I don't think she's
in her right mind. She couldn't be in her right
mind. They said she was plastered. No, but she
did it again when she was completely sober and
she doubled down and they said even worse things
at that point. So she's a terrible person, but.
I think she's just digging her heels in. I think
she's being a stubborn old bat. I don't think
she's that old. She gives me like hot rich mom
vibe. Really? Mm -hmm. Well, they've been together
for 16 years, so she's not young. Yeah, she's
probably like 60s. That's not that old. But 60s,
single, husband died of cancer. I have one earring
in my ear right now. Everyone, please notice
that. It's fine. You can never undo that. I know.
It's gonna be on the internet forever. That's
so embarrassing. I forgot to put the other one
in. I guess I really don't know. I know that...
We have gone to therapy specifically around setting
family boundaries. There's just nothing easy
about it. Nothing easy about it. And what the
mom did and what she said is effed. Woo, that
stirred up lots of crazy drama, guys. Mother
in law from hell. She I hope so frick so stay
tuned next week the beginning of the episode
We will announce which one was the fake of this
week only one of them was the other ones were
real Crazy crazy crazy, but again. Thank you
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