Welcome back to Internet Frenzy. Welcome back,
baby. Happy to be here. Got a very special episode
this week. Couple of guests. You want to introduce
them? I do, because I love them so much. This
is one of my BFFs. This is Kenna. Hi, guys. I'm
Kenna. Yes, and then... This is Tanner. This
is her hubby, and they are amazing. I actually
knew both of them in high school, so we go way
back, y 'all. We're kind of old now. Did you
ever go to La Tenele? Absolutely not. Would anyone
go to their 10 -year reunion in high school?
Like honestly? I don't know. Did you go? I would
have gone a hundred percent if I lived in the
right state. Like it's just, it just gives me
the ick. They cancelled mine because no one wanted
to go. Really? They didn't get any school. Oh
they cancelled it? I thought they did it. They
rented out somewhere like in Caldwells and then
they... said that there wasn't enough people
and so they had to cancel it. You weren't you
weren't balancing the glow ups and the glow downs,
huh? Well, I'm one of the glow downs. So social
media, I guess that's true. If we didn't have
social media, maybe I'd be more curious. It would
be interesting. Social media has killed off the
elderly ones. That's so true. Social media just
killed everything. Yeah, it really does. But
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Thanks for being here. click no pretending we're
so excited you guys are here and we cannot wait
to tell you guys what the theme of this episode
is i can't wait to hear are you ready for it
literally can't wait with that cliffhanger it's
crazy the theme for this week is wait so who's
the a -hole okay i love this yes i love this
one also we get a debate like Who the a -hole
is yes of the story you just you just pick a
side. Okay Well, I mean we're never gonna pick
the same one, but we're gonna we're gonna picking
a side That's all that matters, right? It's just
it's literally us. We're the opposite and everything
I'm just scared. This is gonna be like a long
quiet drive home Afterwards because we're probably
gonna disagree on a few of them you might so
sorry We'll pay for your next therapy session
if we need to okay, great. Perfect Okay, but
my first question before we get into the first
story. Do you guys spend any time on reddit?
I don't. That's good. I don't recommend it. I
don't recommend it. It's seriously, you can spend
so much time. There's so much lunacy on the Internet.
But one of the things I stumbled across when
I was looking for stories comes from Ask Reddit.
And the question is, what's the most disturbing
secret you know about someone that would ruin
their life if exposed, but you stay silent pretending
you don't know. So when I read this, I was like,
OK, I know she has some. She has stuff that she
knows that I know by default. That like it would
ruin people's lives legitimately and some of
the comments are crazy So I'm gonna read some
of the comments of what people know if you guys
have anything you want to share feel free Yeah,
obviously you don't have to like let the cat
out of the bag like you have yeah now Well, I
know this one person his name is so is that like
I know Kevin like murdered his wife and buried
her in the backyard It's but there is like there's
some of that. So I'm gonna read one of the comments
just like a little icebreaker You know from chemical
demand 4928 says I know a guy and I can honestly
say nicest guy I've ever met who over 40 years
ago knew a woman He described her as the sister.
He never had so guy a Knows a woman from a long
time ago and she was violently beaten and raped
by a mutual acquaintance She claimed didn't know
who it was to the authorities and didn't pursue
prosecution My friend was the only person that
she confided in. He said he went to confront
him with the intent of telling him he needed
to turn himself in, or he would basically turn
him in, only to have a guy tell him to F off,
and that the girl had asked for what it was,
she's a total SLUT, all that kind of stuff. He
said something inside him snapped, and he literally
beat the man to death with his bare hands. He
said he is... He was never a suspect and police
thought it was just a random incident. And when
the girl asked him about it, he just told her
that he wished it was him, but no, he didn't
do it. He claims I'm the only one he's ever told
about this, that he hardly thinks about it anymore.
And, but when he does, he has zero regrets or
remorse. Dude straight up murdered somebody.
Wait a second. Do you know someone? No, I don't,
but this reminds me of a little. That rings a
bell. No, but like, spoiler alert, has anyone
read, like, The Housemaid? The movie that's coming
out? No. It's kind of like that. It's giving
that a little bit, yeah, where it's like, it's
like heinous crime over something that's like
a little bit justified, you know? But you're
also like, oh, like, I don't know. Do you think
you could kill someone and not have remorse?
There's no way. There's no way for me. Like,
it doesn't, like, I feel, I have, like, dreams
where, like, that happens and I, like, have this
mad dreams that your mother no no no just something
like laughing crazy just like your wife or or
like yeah like maybe this needs to be cut out
of the podcast but no but really it's just like
the guilt that would come from that is like what
if it was someone that like hurt your daughter
though would you have remorse after that probably
not yeah that was showing them like i think killing
like Could you kill someone and go the rest of
your life not thinking about that you took a
life? It would be every single day. But like
I watch some of these court shows, right? Are
these like the crime shows, 2020, all this stuff?
And it's like somebody's daughter. And then the
family is like face to face with the killer in
the courtroom. Like, what would I do, dude? I
would be like lunging over the thing. Like I
just. I don't know how you'd show any restraint,
but it's a valid point. If you were to do something
like that, you're going to like think about it
every single day for the rest of your life. I
would. Yeah. That's wild story. That's insane.
With his bare hands and the guys like was never
a suspect. Look at these knuckles, but I'm not
a suspect. Yeah. Yeah. It's like scarred over.
Yeah. Just destroyed this dude. This person says
my coworkers entire degree is fake. He photoshopped
the diploma and no one has ever checked. No.
That's crazy job. Did you go to jail for something
like that? Cuz I'm pretty good I was like, can
you do that for me? I'll give you your law degree.
No. Yeah, just like somehow make it like high
LSAT scores Yeah, you let's take off three years.
That's perfect. That's I I don't know if it's
I mean, well Yeah, well if it's like a minimum
requirement for like for example like law like
you have to pass the bar exam to to practice
like that would be illegal. If you're just faking
a bachelor's degree, it's like a minimum requirement
to work in like business management. Yeah. It's
like that's probably you're probably not going
to get like a fraud charge where you would just
get fired. All right. That'd be my guess. You're
done. Let's get into the stories. Okay. This
one comes from best of Redditor updates. Am I
the a -hole for telling my fiance we should call
the wedding off if she doesn't approve of my
female best man? This guy wants his best man
to be his best friend that's girl yeah the hot
best friend that's like everyone like the the
one you shouldn't worry about that always ends
up being the one that you should have worried
about yes you know all right not enough context
yeah because in the end it's like hey you're
doing the right thing by at least establishing
establishing this yes before marriage if there's
going to be one red flag or person on the radar
for the wife it would 100 be the hot best friend
we don't yeah we don't know enough no yeah we
don't know that was only the title but oh oh
there's more oh that's all you're gonna read
there oh sorry i thought that was this yeah i
was ready i was ready you guys you guys staying
ready no i love it i love it so there's an original
post and then there's an update okay says throw
away because i don't want people seeing my personal
shiz on my main account i 28 am proposed to my
girlfriend jasmine 24f in march earlier that's
her name It's fine, his name's Aladdin. Earlier
this week, she and I were talking about wedding
plans and she already picked out who her bridesmaids
were gonna be and was questioning me about my
groomsmen to see who'd walk with who and all
that. I told her I wanted to let her know that
my best man was actually gonna be my friend Kate,
27F. Jasmine kind of freaked and was really adamant
about her not being the BM. I asked her why and
she listed off a lot of reasons, none of which
I believe. She said it'll look weird in the photos,
it'll be weird when Kate has to walk down the
aisle with her maid of honor, that she doesn't
want Kate to be distracting the guests, that
Kate's too short, WTF. To stand next to a bunch
of six foot tall guys the reasons were ridiculous
and I told her as much She told me I should respect
her wishes for the wedding and gave me suggestions
for other best men I know the real reason might
be jealousy, but I don't want to just drop it
and go along with her insecurities We ended up
getting into a big argument Jazz was upset that
I wasn't budging on my stance, and I was mad
she was acting so irrational. She was being really
accusatory about why I wanted Kate in the wedding
so bad. I finally told her if she doesn't want
to let me have this one thing, maybe there shouldn't
be a wedding at all. She got really angry and
told me to just leave our apartment. I've been
couch surfing at a friend's for the past couple
days. In parentheses, not Kate's. Last time I
tried to talk to Jazz. Just to be clear. Last
time I tried to talk to Josh she asked if I was
ready to apologize, and I said no because I don't
want her That'll be a lifelong thing good start
Because I didn't want her to think that she was
right about forbidding me from letting Kate be
in the wedding and before anyone asks No, Kate,
and I have never been sexual or romantic She's
been one of my closest friends and introduced
me to my current social circle I used to be an
awkward nerdy guy who had trouble making friends
now. I'm an awkward nerdy guy with the social
life We survived grad school together and she's
been with me through high and low parts of life
and it seems insane to not include her in my
wedding. Jazz and Kate know each other but aren't
friends and over time Jazz got used to me having
a close female friend without being jealous slash
mistrusting or so I thought. Am I be a hole?
Yes you are. Kate can sit down with the rest
of the crew for the ceremony. bridesmaid if she
has to be in the party I just the best man is
I don't know it's reaching best man like that's
him trying to make a statement like this is my
best friend forever this is my girl like no bro
yeah you got a new one and you got guys you got
bros so I think he is the a -hole and he's to
get over it This is an impossible argument for
us to make, I feel like. I don't think that it's
necessarily right, but I also, there's a line
somewhere. What were you gonna say? No, I just,
I don't know. Well, like, so there's principles
to it. For example, like, okay, this dude's getting
married. Now the number one girl in his life
is gonna be his wife. Okay, so it's not gonna
be this gay girl. But I have to say, but the
question is whether or not, like, that it's inappropriate
to have that relationship. It's who's being an
a -hole in this situation of the whole marriage
thing. Is she being an a -hole for being too
overbearing about the wedding and all of, but
at the same time, I would get, like, I understand
that's weird. Like, that's, certain things are
gonna be weird. I think ultimately, like, to
me, her saying, like, it'd look weird having...
like the maid of honor and the best man like
walking together. To me, I feel like that was
kind of like a stupid remark. I think it's more
about the statement he's trying to make of being
like, this is my best man. No, Kate has to be
it. That would feel threatening. I feel like
as the woman being like, wait, why like that?
Just to have her literally like, she can just
be at the wedding. She does not need to be standing
up here. But here's another. Here's another simple
here's another simple here's the reality make
it super simple if the Bride was coming and saying
that she wants her maid of honor to be another
dude with this guy Yeah, would this guy be okay
with that? Probably not unless he was gay that
I was gonna say This is the exact point that
I was gonna make. That's the exact point that
I was gonna make. If she had a gay best friend,
and she wanted to make the gay best friend the
maid of honor, or whatever the appropriate term
is, I guarantee you that the guy would be like,
okay, like that's fine, because it's not threatening.
The whole, like the fact that Kate and the groom
are straight, Hetero whatever like it's it would
feel threatening I don't think there's any way
around the fact that like there would always
be a little bit of a question there And it's
it'd just be real like a real challenge of like
modern relationships to to put more trust like
yeah It's totally fine like there's nothing ever
going on there. There is an update. He added
a couple of edits I'm not gonna waste the time
on but just a couple of things that are important
to know about Kate So first of all, no short
Kate is not single Jazz and Kate are friendly,
but they aren't friends. I'm not very close to
any of Jazz's friends either, so they kind of
have those separate lives, friendships, whatever.
Kate and I have known each other for almost seven
years. I've been with Jazz for two. I'm not attracted
to Kate and we're not going to run off into the
sunset together. Stop watching bad rom -coms.
It's 2020. Sorry, this is a couple years old.
I can be friends with the woman without wanting
to sleep with her. I'm not choosing another woman
over Jazz. If Kate were a man and Jazz didn't
want him in the wedding, I'd have a right to
be pissed. But since Kate's a woman, suddenly
I don't love my fiance enough? That's BS. Oh,
and if you've implied that I'm gonna have an
affair slash have already cheated, F off. Wow,
someone's defensive. Driving his point home.
You have to be defensive to the internet. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, that's true. Dude, you're banging
her. Like, just be honest. You love Kate. Just
marry Kate. That's his little preface and then
74 days later is the final update. Oh gosh So
the TLDR is I have a friend Kate and I wanted
her to be the best man in my wedding my fiance
Disapproved when we got into a fight about it
my fiance and I ended up making up and reconciling
a few days later We were talking compromises
and it was still a touchy subject, but I thought
it was going good and we'd recover I wish I could
leave it at that She's now my ex -fiance A little
over two weeks after our fight, a friend of Jaz
contacted me. She told me Jasmine had been venting
to her friends over the Kate situation and she
couldn't keep quiet any longer because it wasn't
fair to me. This friend sent me messages between
Jasmine and them. where Jasmine is essentially
talking about not trusting me and Kate and saying
some pretty derogatory things about her. If that
was it, I'd be angry but not furious. But long
story short, the conversation turns into some
confusing conversation I didn't have much context
for, but I got the gist. The friend that sent
me the messages filled me in with what she knew.
Basically, Jazz had had an affair before we got
engaged. It had allegedly been just one time
with some guy she doesn't talk to anymore, but
I don't know what to believe. Based on the messages,
it seems like that was the case. Apparently,
all of her friends knew about this and I was
being played the whole time. I talked to Jazz
and she denied it, but I told her I didn't care,
she needed to leave. She was throwing a fit and
refused to, so I left my own home again because
of her. I told her I'd tell everyone what she
did if she didn't pack up her shit and go by
the time I returned. It worked. Two days later,
I came back and she was gone. She tried contacting
me to set things right, but I'm interested she
can keep the ring for all I care at this point
I just don't want to see her yet I felt so stupid
and worthless and embarrassed I didn't tell anyone
the reason we broke it off no idea what jazz
is telling people and I don't care the past month
and a half has been a nightmare But I've been
slowly recovering my pride and I'm trying to
convince myself what she did was her own fault,
not mine. It works about half the time. Because
I know some of you are going to ask because you
think this is some shitty effing rom -com, I
didn't go running to Kate. I've hardly spoken
to her or anyone else for a while now. I've been
enjoying quarantine and being left alone. That's
my final update on the situation. Those of you
who said Jazz was being paranoid because she
had something to hide can go pat yourselves on
the back. Interesting. That took a turn. Yeah,
that did. I think Kate's zay -hole in this whole
story, honestly. She didn't even know. She never
even got the invite. Wow. Well, I still think
he's zay -hole. Clearly he was doing something
wrong, which is why Jasmine cheated on him. It's
always like... She was probably super toxic.
Yeah, he deserved it. No doubt. There's no break
here. And that was before they were engaged.
They were still dating, but before they got engaged.
So this is my story. Am I the asshole for calling
out a coworker at happy hour, but maybe overreacting.
So last Friday, our team went to a casual happy
hour. Drinks, snacks, the usual. Everything was
chill until Jenna, a coworker, decided it was
open season for embarrassing stories. First,
she made fun of me for always microwaving fish
at my desk. Yes, it stinks, but I own it. Then
she started on my habit of replying to every
email at 3am because I can't sleep, which is
technically true, but not exactly something I
want broadcasted. I tried to laugh it off, but
then she launched into this story about a presentation
I messed up last month, exaggerating every detail
and mimicking me while the bartender poured drinks.
That's when I lost it and said loud enough for
half the bar to hear okay stop turning my failures
into a comedy show everyone froze jenna was fuming
some co -workers whispered i could have handled
it privately others were quietly nodding at me
now jenna is giving me the cold shoulder i feel
a bit bad for yelling and the rest of the office
is awkwardly split between gossiping and pretending
nothing happened am i the a -hole jenna sucks
yeah i don't like jenna jenna sucks the type
of person that just gets off on like Roasting
other people like I hate that in a group setting
and you're gonna be like, oh, yeah What did she
say replying to emails at 3 a .m? Yeah, but you
can't sleep at night. You're a loser Jenna like
when I read this I was like Kate Jenna, you're
not even like a good boy. You kind of suck at
this Like you're kind of a loser, but now I'm
bullying Jenna and it was what she was mocking
the way that she gave a presentation Yeah, that
would really affect me. Like that would make
me feel because i already have like anxiety and
stuff with like speaking in front of a lot of
people so to be made fun of for that that would
suck how do you even like i can't even fathom
trying to make fun of somebody like giving a
presentation yeah the way you pointed was so
dumb yeah i don't know how you do that hit a
real job i i'm just imagining how socially awkward
the poster is too that's like i know can't control
and just like i hate you jenna you suck They're
like in the bar like well what she said too was
like what did she say like it's not even I was
expecting like something way more It was really
weird. Okay, stop turning my failures into a
comedy show Like I just feel like this is to
like 18 year olds, you know, like there's no
way this is These are people who work at like
Crumble cookie, you know, yeah and like oh, I
guess she probably thought she ate with that
comment like that Look, I was too bad. I can
buy the asshole Now you asked her to stop doing
something that was rude All right from best of
Redditor updates. This one is a doozy I'm ready.
Am I the a -hole for allowing my husband's mistress
to meal prep for him and the kids? My husband
has been cheating on me for years with different
women. Due to this, I've completely shut off
from him. We don't have a sexual relationship,
but we do an amazing job at being parents. Our
kids love us and that's all that matters in the
grand scheme of things. I am not dating anyone.
This isn't an open relationship. Every time he
cheats he acts more remorseful, but I've come
to terms that I can't save him. He's seeing this
woman, Cherry, and she's a cook and baker. Mother
Teresa and a porn star Yeah, and a stripper.
Yeah, we were in the little tussle once but that's
in the past. I've moved on I don't like her but
I don't hate her. Few weeks back I caught him
eating in his car and I realized it was from
her. The packaging gave him away. She's been
sending him goodie bags and now full meals. I
told him going forward I'm no longer cooking
for him and he needs to let her do everything
including meals for the kids. I really put my
foot down and did some petty things that I'm
not proud of but it worked. I told him if she
loves him she will do it but I'm done. Well I
don't know what he did to convince her. but at
least three times a week they get meals from
Cherry. He brings the container and plates the
food. The kids are happy because they think they're
getting takeout. I don't partake. On the other
days I cook for just the kids and myself. My
husband on the other hand got mad and said I
manipulated him into taking advantage of Cherry
and kept asking me what do I get out of these
mind games? I told my best friend about the whole
ordeal and she's upset with me saying that what
if Cherry spikes the kids meals? I don't think
she would do it. Am I the a -hole for letting
this happen? The only thing she did wrong is
like you need to have cherry make your meals.
Yeah, that's the only thing she did wrong Okay,
here's the thing though. Imagine the only part
where I felt sad on the wife's part is imagine
as a child, you growing up and you're in therapy
and you find out or whatever, your father's affair
partner was making you meals and you thought
they were takeout. I feel like that would kind
of mess with me. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah.
I mean, I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm cynical.
I feel like that's like, OK, whatever. It's how
about the fact that your dad was having an affair?
Yeah. Like, yeah, that'd be a little detail.
That's a little bit more. That's a little bit
more important than like. She's the one that
made those cherry pisles are so good. Oh That
was cherry How do you stay married that's what
I don't understand he's willingly stepping out
That's where I think she went wrong and she's
like, yeah, we're great co -parents. I don't
date anyone The only thing I could think of is
like he they financially are like stable and
she feels like secure in that you might be on
to something I will I immediately knew it was
money the second I heard the mistress name was
cherry and then also She's staying you ready
for this ready. There's there's a million comments
of her like replying to different comments I'm
not gonna read them all but her update this comes
ten months after the original post and this Was
posted the update was posted on August 21st So
what was that two days ago? Oh what? So this
is like ongoing currently. She says I cheated
on my husband and he caught us. Was sick and
tired of feeling unloved and unwanted I was sick
of being a doormat and taking him back every
single effing time I don't know how I feel right
now, but I know it's not regret or shame. It's
something else I invited a guy been talking to
over at the house I knew my husband was coming
home at 5 and I still went through with it keeping
personal things personal He saw everything and
I mean everything and hurt as well I have to
face the reality of my situation. I'm not shocked
he's hurt. That was my intention, but the hypocrisy
is astonishing. He's been crying the entire night.
I've cried for years. Somehow I am the scum,
not him. After he's been playing house with this
woman and having dinner by her house, it's 12
a .m. right now and all I can say is that I'm
lucky my husband and the guy didn't trash it
out. It was incredibly awkward. My mind is racing.
I feel a bit scared, empowered and uncertain.
I haven't been steady in ages." She posts the
second update the same day. Any thoughts? She
literally planned. She planned to have her husband
walk in. I feel like I can't talk ever for her.
Here's the thing, though. There is this crazy,
like, mental thing that happens for a lot of
people where when you are betrayed, it's that
sort of, like, revenge that comes in if you're
not healing properly. So, like, she obviously
never got the actual help she needed for the
betrayal trauma. It's just so clear, like, and
my thing right now, I'm just thinking, like,
the freaking kids, bro. I know. Because, like,
the very first, one thing I didn't say the very
first part of this is, like, mom said she's not
making lunches anymore. Right. Oh, yeah. She's
not making lunch for our kids. Yeah. Did I hear
that right? Maybe I heard that wrong. No, she,
she didn't like specify which meals, but for
sure, she said that basically, Cherry, if she
should be making meals for you, then I'm done.
Like I'm not doing them anymore. So, and it sounded
like only three days a week. So that part I didn't
fully understand. That's just so weird. I just,
I don't see a world where, why do you stay together?
If he's continually stepping out. why are you
staying together stay together though because
the kids and finances that's the one she was
kind of detached and she was like whatever this
is just the life i have to live it's like okay
if you can accept that that's like you know okay
but now that she's in a place where she's like
well i'm gonna do the same thing it's like i'm
just like that's when you guys are like come
on let's grow up and move on and i think she
was honestly just hanging on until she could
find a guy to bang and get him back that's kind
of how it sounds yeah where she wasn't really
interested in the effort and then it kind of
came to her and so she was like she's like now
it's time it's game time baby i think that's
like and she said that she closed it like she
closed that part of their relationship probably
due to the hurt yeah so she posted it the exact
same day it's been 10 months or so since i've
last posted a lot has changed i'm here to tell
you that i'm getting a divorce and starting the
moving on process after posting on reddit i received
a lot of backlash and dms that were a bit overboard
i'm i'm sure you did However, there were some
that made me see life in a different perspective
and I realized being petty doesn't serve me nor
my kids. A month after my OG post, I stopped
the kids from eating cherries meals. It was childish
to drag my kids into that mess. Mm -hmm. I'm
just grateful they are small enough and don't
understand what's happening with their parents
I let her cook for him and take care of his laundry
There's no way I'm slaving over a man who hates
me My job is to take care of my kids not a grown
adult who cannot respect his wife I'm no longer
cook therapist financial planner assistant and
maid just mother of his children and soon -to
-be ex -wife Well, to rip the bandaid off, I
cheated back, and it didn't go as planned. The
petty spirit in me did it in the worst way possible.
I invited the gentleman over when I knew my husband
would be coming in, and he saw and heard everything.
He caught me in the act, to keep it real with
you all. I'm lucky to say that it could have
went way worse than it did, but I don't feel
guilty, just indifferent. I can say he isn't
taking it well, and before bed he bawled his
eyes out and vented for what felt like a millennium.
I am the scum. I am the traitor. It's funny,
not in a hysterical way, but I've been crying
for years and he's only cried once. It's almost
as if he forgot he was the cheater who caused
all of this. I don't know how to explain, but
I don't regret cheating back. It made me feel
empowered. I felt satisfaction watching him break
down because that used to be me. The morning
afterwards, he woke up begging to reconcile.
but this taught me I needed to divorce. He's
being extra nice, but nice isn't good enough.
It's the bare minimum. I had to pause when writing
because he called to check up on me at work and
he never does that. Not to mention lunch drop
-offs and little gifts. I'm not buying it. I
know this isn't the update some would want, but
the bright side is I'm holding myself accountable
in getting that divorce. I know in the comments
somewhere I saw something about the finances.
That is so interesting. He's like now trying.
to keep her. I actually don't feel super surprised
by that because I think a lot of people who get
themselves in like that situation where they're
cheating they like completely separate or like
these they're two different ones or they'll be
like well that's that wasn't that didn't mean
anything to me so it's not cheating because it
was just like it was just sex or whatever like
yeah it's just when people are about to like
when they're seeing what they're now losing that's
when they want to try to That's crazy Disassociation
Yeah, like where you cut off from all things
emotional and it's just a physical acts escape
It's all that stuff. So I found some of the comments
so she replied to why she's not getting a divorce
already I'm not giving up my house and leaving
with half. I hope I get under his skin and he
gives up everything. Oh She really hates him
Yeah, but at first it sounded like she didn't
really care like she's telling whatever but now
it's like oh You're like you want to ruin his
life like you you don't really know how to yeah
She's got a lot of anger. Yeah, she's She's therapy
camera. I'll agree both a -holes. Yeah both complete
a -holes and Therapy a long time ago go to therapy
here we go Would I be the a -hole if I divorced
my wife because she does not want me actively
involved in raising our children? My wife, 31F,
and I, 32M, have been together since college
and we've been married for seven years. We have
three children together and I am sick of either
having to step back and let her raise the kids
almost as a single mom or fight with her because
I did something with our children, even something
as simple as feeding them. But that's where I'm
at. She wasn't like this when our oldest was
born. It started when she was pregnant with our
twins. She would always tell me to tidy or run
some errands when I wanted to spend time with
our child. Then she'd keep him by her side the
entire day, or she'd go off somewhere if I said,
we should all spend the day together and focused
on our oldest. But when the twins came, it was
worse. Every time I went to feed or change a
baby, she was telling me to go back to bed or
to run to the store for something. Whenever she
caught me holding and doing anything with one
of our kids, it was like I was committing a crime.
When I'd asked her what the issue was, she'd
said there was nothing, but I should just make
myself useful. I was doing that. One time she
was delayed on the phone talking to her sister
so I put her oldest to bed and got the twins
fed. She freaked out and yelled at me for doing
it without asking her. I told her it wasn't like
I went off schedule and she was busy. She said
that wasn't the point. Then came the fights about
me trying to be with the kids instead of working
or running errands. When I took time off I would
make sure I got time with the kids and she'd
be ready for a fight and if I didn't let a fight
happen she yelled at me anyway. Whenever I didn't
push through she'd find a way to keep the kids
from me. I told her it bothered me and she said
it was all in my head. Another time she accused
me of trying to hog the kids even though I hadn't
been home all day. She hated me baby wearing.
I was screamed at for picking the kids up from
her parents' house one day. She was at an appointment
and I was getting out of work so I thought it
would make sense, but she told me she decided
to leave them with her parents so I should respect
that and I told her I was just as capable of
taking care of them as her. She was hospitalized
briefly a couple months ago and that's when I
reached the point of F this, we should divorce.
I took some days off work so I could be with
the kids and she kept telling me to go back to
work and let the kids stay with their parents
until she got home and she was screaming at me
while she was in the hospital because I had the
kids. She sent her parents to try and take them
off me twice. When she recovered, I told her
this couldn't continue. And if this is the way
things would be, we should divorce. And she screamed
and said, I would be an a -hole to destroy our
family and break up our kids' stability. Even
my own parents told me I should find a way to
make it work. But she won't even sit down and
talk to me. Therapy is out of the question on
her part. And I don't want the kids to see us
fight every time I interact with even one of
them. Would I be the a -hole to divorce? No,
Sha. What's wrong with that lady? Is that is
it just control? Like she just needs ultimate
control over the kids because if it's not that
it might be that like She doesn't trust him.
Like maybe he's like giving her bad vibes in
her world Maybe something that happened to her
with a parent or like yeah, just something that's
like That she would let her parents Watch the
kids but not her husband. It's like why are you
married to him? You don't trust him with your
kids. Why did you have kids with three? And they've
been married seven years. That's like, that's
quick. I know she had twins for the second, but
still. It's divorce worthy. Like, the question
from OP is like, is this worth getting a divorce?
Like, yeah, because you want to be able to parent
your own children. He would be able to spend
literally more time with his kids 50 -50 custody
than what he's doing now with with the wife staying
married. Trying to imagine, like, I'd be so mad
at you if I was like parenting Isla. Like I'm
like trying to put her in timeout or something
and you're like. Go do something else. Like I'm
gonna be the parent Yeah, like I can't even imagine
not even letting you baby wear. Let's like to
a whole nother level You're not even parenting
really you're just holding the baby, you know,
here's my thought though The only thing that
I thought was a little weird is that his own
parents are saying no try and make it work Yeah,
so that makes me feel like is it him? Are they
off? No, these are about fate Okay, one one of
the four will be so now one of the four Is the
fake story and we want you guys to guess which
one do you think was the fake? Do you think my
last one was fake? You come up with the fake
ones or the that trust me we can chat GPT knows
how to do it. I feel like that was so outrageous.
It has to be true. Okay, I'll go with four. I'll
stick with four. Even though I'm starting to
think that is probably four is probably real.
Okay, I think the moments man I'm gonna I'm gonna
do that. Yeah. Okay. Well stay tuned next week
To find out which one was the fake and we announced
it in the beginning of each episode. I will not
be waiting We'll tie you up in that was so sorry
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