WEBVTT 00:00:00.970 --> 00:00:04.469 welcome back to internet frenzy we are finally 00:00:04.469 --> 00:00:07.969 back we took a couple weeks off summer traveling 00:00:07.969 --> 00:00:10.310 all the things but we're back and we're ready 00:00:10.310 --> 00:00:13.330 to get going again and this episode you are not 00:00:13.330 --> 00:00:16.649 gonna want to miss because it is a banger banger 00:00:16.649 --> 00:00:19.789 city it's it's been it's been a minute we've 00:00:19.789 --> 00:00:21.769 missed you guys we have missed you guys and we 00:00:21.769 --> 00:00:24.629 are ready to get back at it so with that we are 00:00:24.629 --> 00:00:28.809 jumping right into it the fake of last Episode 00:00:28.809 --> 00:00:31.789 that you guys listen to the 404 air you guys 00:00:31.789 --> 00:00:34.090 if you haven't listened to the episode go listen 00:00:34.090 --> 00:00:36.810 to it right now It is one of my favorite episodes. 00:00:36.929 --> 00:00:39.590 We've ever done the stories are so good, but 00:00:39.590 --> 00:00:46.630 the fake was The Paul Walker sighting so super 00:00:46.630 --> 00:00:50.729 fake super fake RIP Paul Walker Joe's has a man 00:00:50.729 --> 00:00:53.630 crush on him, but you know it is what it is so 00:00:53.630 --> 00:00:57.950 that one was fake I used to Not anymore. Yeah 00:00:57.950 --> 00:01:04.890 died when he died. Oh Okay, well on that note 00:01:04.890 --> 00:01:09.769 this week's episode is so good and it is I loved 00:01:09.769 --> 00:01:15.590 you dot dot dot then I googled you Yo It's gonna 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:18.609 be crazy. It's all about secrets lies and a dark 00:01:18.609 --> 00:01:23.090 past just one search away So I'm Joe before we 00:01:23.090 --> 00:01:25.629 start on your story I just got to give a huge 00:01:25.629 --> 00:01:27.709 shout out to water boy. Thank you so much for 00:01:27.709 --> 00:01:30.409 sending these to us and I got to have one before 00:01:30.409 --> 00:01:33.969 Joe starts his story because I'm sorry like I 00:01:33.969 --> 00:01:35.950 need to stay hydrated because these stories are 00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:38.349 gonna get me so parched. Yeah I mean and you 00:01:38.349 --> 00:01:40.950 be staying thirsty too. I'm a thirsty little 00:01:40.950 --> 00:01:43.590 girlie honestly. We just we just finished actually 00:01:43.590 --> 00:01:45.810 at the gym so it's good I'm getting my electrolytes 00:01:45.810 --> 00:01:48.760 in before we hit it with this. Little podcast. 00:01:49.019 --> 00:01:51.560 I want to try it too. Can I yeah, I told you 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.500 I asked you I said you want me to get you a drink 00:01:53.500 --> 00:01:57.019 and you said no good Well, that was before I 00:01:57.019 --> 00:01:59.540 knew that it was water boy. I know have you had 00:01:59.540 --> 00:02:02.000 this water mouth or you've had other ones, but 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.640 This is what I was gonna say is I'm a drink snob. 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.760 Yes big time. I love drinks I go to the gas station 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.819 and get a different drink every day not every 00:02:10.819 --> 00:02:15.050 day, but look I love drinks so I will be excited 00:02:15.050 --> 00:02:17.270 to see how this one tastes. Yeah, I'll let you 00:02:17.270 --> 00:02:19.409 try mine. How about that? I've had lots of different 00:02:19.409 --> 00:02:21.770 electrolytes that I really like. Waterboy is 00:02:21.770 --> 00:02:24.969 good. Flavor is always there. So yeah, and I 00:02:24.969 --> 00:02:27.550 really feel like it works. I can I notice a huge 00:02:27.550 --> 00:02:30.550 difference after I drink it. So and it tastes 00:02:30.550 --> 00:02:32.509 like sweet and like there's sugar in it, but 00:02:32.509 --> 00:02:35.509 there's zero sugar. That's solid. I really like 00:02:35.509 --> 00:02:39.639 it. That is tasty. Shout out to Waterboy. Thank 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:42.219 you so much for sending. And now Joe, now that 00:02:42.219 --> 00:03:03.259 I'm hydrated, I'm ready for your story. All right, 00:03:03.419 --> 00:03:05.319 this one comes from best of redditor updates 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.460 originally posted on grief support. Oh, that's 00:03:09.460 --> 00:03:13.460 new to the podcast. Hey, I love new freaking 00:03:13.460 --> 00:03:21.400 stuff. There's a lot of new stuff. All right. 00:03:21.780 --> 00:03:24.199 My husband was arrested at the airport. I just 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.199 discovered his criminal past and I'm spiraling. 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.780 Oh, shoot. Could you imagine? I mean, Could you 00:03:31.780 --> 00:03:34.300 imagine? No. Oh, I'm scared. I need to look you 00:03:34.300 --> 00:03:36.979 up, bro. I don't even know where to begin. My 00:03:36.979 --> 00:03:40.039 husband, 43, and I, 34, were about to leave for 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.360 our honeymoon when he was suddenly detained at 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.659 the airport. I had no idea this was coming. We've 00:03:45.659 --> 00:03:47.680 been married for a few months. Before that, we 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:50.080 dated for over a year. I have no complaints about 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.060 our relationship. We're extremely compatible. 00:03:52.180 --> 00:03:54.199 He's never asked me for anything and is beyond 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.599 supportive. Still early days, but lawyers not 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.560 retained by myself have advised that... His sentence 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.780 will be approximately four months in prison and 00:04:02.780 --> 00:04:06.300 three years probation. Whoa! I know he has been 00:04:06.300 --> 00:04:08.500 living openly for at least five years in our 00:04:08.500 --> 00:04:11.039 state. He's not hidden any other aspect of his 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.719 life and I otherwise have open access. Also, 00:04:13.780 --> 00:04:15.699 I've done background checks in both our current 00:04:15.699 --> 00:04:18.399 state and where he previously lived. Both showed 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.139 no criminal history. We've flown internationally 00:04:21.139 --> 00:04:24.069 before about 10 months ago. and it would have 00:04:24.069 --> 00:04:26.389 been stupid of him to go on another international 00:04:26.389 --> 00:04:28.689 trip when there was a possibility of arrest. 00:04:28.930 --> 00:04:31.670 I'm truly confounded. After his detainment, we 00:04:31.670 --> 00:04:33.689 were able to speak very briefly in a chaotic 00:04:33.689 --> 00:04:36.370 moment. I later found out that he is being extradited 00:04:36.370 --> 00:04:39.089 for a serious crime, one I could not even imagine 00:04:39.089 --> 00:04:41.569 him being accused of. A day later, he was able 00:04:41.569 --> 00:04:44.209 to phone me. He apologized, acknowledged the 00:04:44.209 --> 00:04:46.089 stress he's put me under, and promised to tell 00:04:46.089 --> 00:04:48.269 me everything. His family insists he's innocent, 00:04:48.350 --> 00:04:50.230 but I'm playing devil's advocate with myself. 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.720 Not because of his detainment, but because he 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:54.920 never told me any of this before we got married. 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:57.439 His omission has shaken the foundation of our 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.000 relationship. I keep asking myself, should I 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.519 hold onto hope? Give things a chance to play 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.699 out, or am I just prolonging my own suffering? 00:05:05.220 --> 00:05:07.240 I feel like I'm grieving my marriage and my future 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.639 all at once, and I know moving forward will be 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:11.980 beyond painful. If anyone has been through something 00:05:11.980 --> 00:05:14.339 similar as advice on how to cope with this level 00:05:14.339 --> 00:05:17.439 of betrayal, grief, and uncertainty, please share. 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.399 I feel like I'm drowning. This is this post is 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.139 intentionally vague on some details to help protect 00:05:24.139 --> 00:05:27.740 my anonymity How many people out there do you 00:05:27.740 --> 00:05:29.480 think are actually getting background checks 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.100 when they're like dating someone? I have the 00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:34.620 same thought because I never have had a background 00:05:34.620 --> 00:05:37.519 check on you before like I never did that you 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.860 also Started dating me when I was like 22 You 00:05:41.860 --> 00:05:45.000 could still have a record at 22. I mean, I guess 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.519 that's that is true That is true. But yeah, it's 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.959 it's it's a different world out there in the 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.199 real world when you're dating it I mean she was 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:58.139 what 34 and he was 43 But I feel like the circle 00:05:58.139 --> 00:06:00.639 I surround myself with like getting a background 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.620 check is not necessarily like a thing at all 00:06:03.620 --> 00:06:06.819 I'm sure there's like different circles and other 00:06:06.819 --> 00:06:10.120 Areas that they want to do a background check 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.279 Somebody said was it a bad check forgive and 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:17.310 forget was it violent and or sexual run? Yeah, 00:06:17.389 --> 00:06:19.569 I don't know. I'm like trying to put myself in 00:06:19.569 --> 00:06:23.149 her shoes like What I would do but I feel like 00:06:23.149 --> 00:06:25.050 if it's something that has to do with the law 00:06:25.050 --> 00:06:28.009 and broken the law She has every right to know 00:06:28.009 --> 00:06:30.610 Before she gets into a relationship with him 00:06:30.610 --> 00:06:33.509 like he should have disclosed that with her Way 00:06:33.509 --> 00:06:36.290 before they got into like a relationship. Yeah, 00:06:36.290 --> 00:06:40.209 I mean it it's so it's a freaking red flag AF 00:06:40.209 --> 00:06:42.230 that he's they're like traveling and he gets 00:06:42.230 --> 00:06:45.139 detained but Of course, that's going to shake 00:06:45.139 --> 00:06:48.240 her to her core. That's traumatizing. And that 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:52.019 would be so embarrassing. Well, yeah. Like, imagine 00:06:52.019 --> 00:06:55.899 your family. Ugh. Like, yeah. Oh, yeah, he got 00:06:55.899 --> 00:06:59.759 arrested in customs. He got arrested at the airport. 00:07:01.220 --> 00:07:03.379 Like, I have no idea why. Yeah. That's tough 00:07:03.379 --> 00:07:05.500 to come back from. Oh, yeah, definitely. Plus, 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.459 yeah, he just seems like a shady character. He 00:07:07.459 --> 00:07:09.519 seems like some, like, Mission Impossible guy. 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.439 Yeah, well. Do you think that was the fake yeah 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:18.120 or nay maybe maybe not but I'm ready for my story 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.180 I 29f just found out my boyfriend's wife thinks 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:25.800 he's dead and I don't know what to do This is 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:28.519 posted on true off my chest. We met at church 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.759 in Park City I had just moved to Utah didn't 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.579 really know anyone and he introduced himself 00:07:33.579 --> 00:07:36.720 after church He was warm easy to talk to not 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.360 overly outgoing, but not shy either We started 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.540 going on walks, movie dates, and it just kind 00:07:41.540 --> 00:07:43.819 of turned into a relationship. He told me early 00:07:43.819 --> 00:07:46.060 on that he didn't have social media. Said he 00:07:46.060 --> 00:07:47.959 used to, but deleted everything during a really 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.279 bad time in his life a few years ago. He mentioned 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:52.079 some kind of falling out with family and he said 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.720 he moved to Utah to start fresh. I didn't press. 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.439 He seemed honest. I liked that he lived simply. 00:07:57.860 --> 00:07:59.959 He has a cabin outside of town up in the mountains. 00:08:00.060 --> 00:08:02.379 That's where we always spent time reading, cooking, 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.120 hiking, just unplugging. It felt like a little 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.399 retreat from everything. We weren't official, 00:08:07.420 --> 00:08:09.800 but we were consistent. I thought maybe it could 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.519 turn into something more. Last weekend, we were 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.319 getting ready to leave for a camping trip and 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.759 his wallet fell out of his bag. I picked it up, 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.839 handed it to him, and saw his ID. The last name 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.959 wasn't what he told me it was. At first, I thought 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.079 maybe it was a middle name or maybe a legal name 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:26.939 he didn't use anymore, but something about it 00:08:26.939 --> 00:08:29.399 just felt off. Later that night, after he went 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.480 home, I Googled it. That's when everything unraveled. 00:08:32.620 --> 00:08:34.960 The first thing that came up was a missing person's 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.340 report filed four months ago by a woman in Washington. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.960 She said her husband had gone camping and never 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.460 came back. There were photos. One of them was 00:08:43.460 --> 00:08:46.039 him standing next to a truck I've literally ridden 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.399 in. Another one was a close -up and I knew that 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.759 face. I had just kissed it two hours earlier. 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.840 The woman who followed the report was his wife. 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.100 And they have three kids. I didn't sleep. I stayed 00:08:58.100 --> 00:09:00.019 up reading every single thing I could find. I 00:09:00.019 --> 00:09:03.080 found her Facebook. It's public. Post after post 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.059 of her begging people to help. Videos of her 00:09:06.059 --> 00:09:08.940 kids crying. Her kids holding signs. One of them 00:09:08.940 --> 00:09:11.820 said, please come home daddy we miss you. I felt 00:09:11.820 --> 00:09:14.779 sick. She thinks he's dead. The kids think he's 00:09:14.779 --> 00:09:16.580 dead and I've been dating him like he's just 00:09:16.580 --> 00:09:23.940 a regular guy. Oh my goodness. I was shocked 00:09:23.940 --> 00:09:28.340 when I found this. Like dog, how did you land 00:09:28.340 --> 00:09:31.649 in Utah? of all places like that's exactly where 00:09:31.649 --> 00:09:33.970 a guy like that's gonna land no no if you want 00:09:33.970 --> 00:09:36.370 to hide out you don't go to the place where like 00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:39.129 every single person is connected by family or 00:09:39.129 --> 00:09:43.830 a church like you're gonna be found brother oh 00:09:43.830 --> 00:09:47.470 my gosh no it's absolutely crazy it's not disgusting 00:09:47.470 --> 00:09:49.409 though what kind of human being is just gonna 00:09:49.409 --> 00:09:51.649 dip and leave their children and wife and make 00:09:51.649 --> 00:09:56.059 them think that he's dead oh that well We've 00:09:56.059 --> 00:09:59.159 seen plenty of Documentaries not plenty but like 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.179 there's one that I can think of yeah that a girl 00:10:02.179 --> 00:10:04.279 did the same thing She like pretended to get 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.399 jumped or mugged or something and then disappeared 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:08.539 and but it was because of like an affair She 00:10:08.539 --> 00:10:10.539 was just chilling with the dude. Yeah chilling 00:10:10.539 --> 00:10:13.039 with her ex -boyfriend. Yeah, this one's a little 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.080 different because he met her there it's not like 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.389 he was like going to like mistress, but Still, 00:10:18.389 --> 00:10:20.490 it's still effed up. Like, it's still terrible. 00:10:20.590 --> 00:10:22.429 He just decided, nope, I'm going to go ahead 00:10:22.429 --> 00:10:25.509 and exit this life as I know it, leave my three 00:10:25.509 --> 00:10:28.909 kids, leave my wife. And then what? Did it say 00:10:28.909 --> 00:10:33.230 how they met? They met at church. So he was literally 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:37.429 going to church. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm like, how 00:10:37.429 --> 00:10:40.149 do you feel even good about going into a building, 00:10:40.529 --> 00:10:44.409 a church, like a building? Yeah, that defies 00:10:44.409 --> 00:10:47.629 all of it. That just, you know. like what are 00:10:47.629 --> 00:10:53.610 we like Lord please help him like forgive me 00:10:53.610 --> 00:10:56.610 forgive me for abandoning my wife and three kids 00:10:56.610 --> 00:10:58.470 and letting them think that I'm dead and please 00:10:58.470 --> 00:11:01.549 bless it I'll have a good day tomorrow and find 00:11:01.549 --> 00:11:06.509 a hot girl like that's terrible well it gets 00:11:06.509 --> 00:11:09.250 worse because there is an update no there's not 00:11:09.250 --> 00:11:13.789 yes yes yes so here's the update I haven't said 00:11:13.789 --> 00:11:16.139 anything I told him I was sick and cancelled 00:11:16.139 --> 00:11:18.659 our trip. He said he'd go up to the cabin alone 00:11:18.659 --> 00:11:21.860 and be off -grid for a few days. That was four 00:11:21.860 --> 00:11:24.360 days ago. Yesterday I finally decided I couldn't 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.360 sit with this anymore. I was going to tell him 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.440 I knew. I opened our text thread to send the 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.480 message, and it went green. He had blocked me. 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.159 I drove to the cabin this morning. Everything 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.379 was empty. No truck, no clothes, nothing in the 00:11:38.379 --> 00:11:40.879 fridge. He's gone. And now I don't know what 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.620 to do. Do I tell her? Do I tell the cops? What 00:11:43.620 --> 00:11:46.000 do I even say? How do you tell someone their 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.159 husband isn't dead? He just started all over 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.159 again. Oh yeah, you definitely tell her. You 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.940 definitely tell the cops. The fact it's been 00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:59.080 four days from her finding out and she still 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.360 didn't tell the wife or the authorities like 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.899 pisses me off. Yeah, 100%. Like there's so many 00:12:04.899 --> 00:12:07.279 resources going into trying to find dude and 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.919 he's just like. And she knows all along now four 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.580 days four days the authorities could have like 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:15.899 Done something like what would they do in that 00:12:15.899 --> 00:12:17.460 case would they are they're not gonna arrest 00:12:17.460 --> 00:12:20.600 him Well, yeah, I think they would bring him 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.139 back. I don't think you can they don't have the 00:12:23.139 --> 00:12:26.659 power to do that No, no, they can't arrest him. 00:12:26.659 --> 00:12:29.539 He didn't break the law. Well, it's highly frowned 00:12:29.539 --> 00:12:35.740 upon Yeah, no, I don't know how that works but 00:12:35.740 --> 00:12:38.620 it seems like If they knew that he was alive 00:12:38.620 --> 00:12:40.279 and well, I don't think they'd be like, okay, 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.740 well, see you later. By the way, wife, yeah, 00:12:42.740 --> 00:12:45.360 he's alive. He's just in Utah, like at a church 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:47.440 meeting. Yeah, I feel like that's what they would 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.320 do though. Like that's all they could do is just 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:51.980 let them know wife know where he is. And to think 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:54.620 they've wasted all that money on searching and 00:12:54.620 --> 00:12:57.080 probably like checking the woods by his house. 00:12:57.659 --> 00:13:00.000 Ridiculous. Well, I have a question for you. 00:13:00.179 --> 00:13:03.259 Shoot it. Okay. Is there any situation where 00:13:03.259 --> 00:13:06.909 disappearing like this is justified? your life 00:13:06.909 --> 00:13:09.830 is in danger. Okay. If you're a gang member, 00:13:09.830 --> 00:13:12.929 if you're in the mob and they're going to chop 00:13:12.929 --> 00:13:14.990 you up and put you in a barrel and sink you down 00:13:14.990 --> 00:13:17.669 to the bottom of a lake, go ahead and disappear. 00:13:18.350 --> 00:13:21.149 And leave your children and wife screwed. Ideally, 00:13:21.149 --> 00:13:23.110 you're gonna tell the wife too. You're gonna 00:13:23.110 --> 00:13:26.230 say, hey, I'm gonna dip. Wanna dip with me? We 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:30.149 can go to the Bahamas. Oh my gosh. Okay. Alright, 00:13:30.149 --> 00:13:33.110 well, there is a comment. There's a couple but 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:34.929 I'll just read one that I really liked. Yeah, 00:13:34.929 --> 00:13:37.539 yeah, yeah. This story will haunt me not even 00:13:37.539 --> 00:13:39.480 kidding. I read it this morning and it's still 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.279 stuck in my head Who just leaves a whole life 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.820 behind and starts another like it's nothing the 00:13:44.820 --> 00:13:48.340 level of detachment is actually terrifying I 00:13:48.340 --> 00:13:50.399 really like that last line because I think that's 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:53.279 so true. He just is fully detached Yeah, that's 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.340 a that's a dangerous person. Yeah, there's something 00:13:56.340 --> 00:13:59.879 really wrong up here Yeah up here and right here 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.899 and right here. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good church 00:14:02.899 --> 00:14:05.720 more but Apparently not apparently that's not 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.639 the answer But back with his family. Yeah, like 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.860 be a better human. Yeah, so sad. Well, that's 00:14:13.860 --> 00:14:17.080 my story That one was gnarly. I know it's freaking 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:21.639 crazy, dude Can I go you may all right? This 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.059 next one comes from best of Redditor updates 00:14:24.059 --> 00:14:27.440 OOP discovers his wife is having an affair When 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.779 he is called in by the police for questioning 00:14:29.779 --> 00:14:34.169 involving the assault of her lover. Yo Shoot 00:14:34.169 --> 00:14:37.029 title of the first post this is from 2021 I'm 00:14:37.029 --> 00:14:39.029 completely lost because I just found out that 00:14:39.029 --> 00:14:43.309 my 42 and wife 36f of 12 years has been having 00:14:43.309 --> 00:14:46.049 an affair From the police who called me in for 00:14:46.049 --> 00:14:47.789 questioning involving the assault of her lover. 00:14:48.850 --> 00:14:50.470 I Don't know what I'm doing right now I don't 00:14:50.470 --> 00:14:52.269 know if this is the right sub or even if I should 00:14:52.269 --> 00:14:54.330 be posting this but I don't have a clear mind 00:14:54.330 --> 00:14:56.389 Right now and I'm here to ask for some direction 00:14:56.789 --> 00:14:58.909 I've been married to my wife for 12 years. We 00:14:58.909 --> 00:15:01.629 have an amazing 11 year old son. Until last night, 00:15:01.649 --> 00:15:03.850 I thought we had a good marriage. I thought I 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:05.889 was always really good to her. We have no money 00:15:05.889 --> 00:15:08.169 problems, no intimacy problems, and I've never 00:15:08.169 --> 00:15:10.610 taken her for granted. I want us to wake up every 00:15:10.610 --> 00:15:12.809 morning and thank God that she is my wife. Now 00:15:12.809 --> 00:15:15.070 I don't know what to think. I got a call from 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:17.350 my local PD as I was getting off work yesterday. 00:15:17.830 --> 00:15:19.710 They asked if I could come to the police station 00:15:19.710 --> 00:15:23.049 as soon as possible. I panicked. I asked if something 00:15:23.049 --> 00:15:25.679 had happened to my wife or son. They said, not 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.360 to worry, just get to the station ASAP. When 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.779 I got there, they put me in a room with a table 00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:33.100 and some chairs. They asked me my name, which 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:35.759 I gave. Then they started asking all these questions 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.480 about a guy my wife works with. I haven't seen 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:40.700 or spoken to this guy literally since December 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.820 2019 at my wife's company Christmas party. The 00:15:43.820 --> 00:15:45.960 two officers kept asking me things like, how 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.820 long have you known and how did you find out? 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.820 The only answer I could give was, what are you 00:15:50.820 --> 00:15:53.240 talking about? After about an hour of this, I 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:54.940 just stopped answering their questions and kept 00:15:54.940 --> 00:15:57.360 asking where my son and wife were and were they 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.980 safe. We just kept going around and around until 00:15:59.980 --> 00:16:02.340 after about two hours on and off because they 00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:04.559 would periodically leave the room for 15 to 20 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.700 minutes. They come back and start it all over 00:16:06.700 --> 00:16:09.460 again like some cheap cop show. The last time 00:16:09.460 --> 00:16:11.700 they came in, the cop handed me a tablet and 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:13.820 showed me a video of my wife and the guy from 00:16:13.820 --> 00:16:17.259 her work being intimate. I don't remember much 00:16:17.259 --> 00:16:19.360 after that. I just remember screaming what the 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:21.899 F is this over and over again. I had a full blown 00:16:21.899 --> 00:16:23.679 panic attack right there in the middle of the 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.600 police station. The police had a paramedic check 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:28.480 me out and he said my blood pressure was something 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.500 like 170 over 110. He wanted me to go to the 00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:33.519 hospital, but I refused and said I needed to 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.039 find my wife and my son. After I calmed down, 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.960 the officers explained that the guy in the video 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.240 had been having an affair with my wife and apparently 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.820 several other women. He had been found that morning 00:16:42.820 --> 00:16:46.139 in his driveway, beaten, essayed and set on fire. 00:16:46.539 --> 00:16:49.179 Well, he was still alive, but in critical condition 00:16:49.179 --> 00:16:51.230 and they didn't know if he would make it. His 00:16:51.230 --> 00:16:52.909 wife had given them permission to go through 00:16:52.909 --> 00:16:54.629 his phone and computer and that's where I found 00:16:54.629 --> 00:16:56.769 the video of my wife. They asked me where I was 00:16:56.769 --> 00:16:59.389 that morning and I told them the gym then work 00:16:59.389 --> 00:17:01.990 about 10 minutes from my gym. At that point they 00:17:01.990 --> 00:17:04.369 said I could go but that I might not want to 00:17:04.369 --> 00:17:06.089 stay at my house because they didn't know if 00:17:06.089 --> 00:17:09.269 his affair with my wife could be why he was attacked. 00:17:09.450 --> 00:17:11.529 They also said my wife wasn't the only person 00:17:11.529 --> 00:17:13.769 he was having an affair with. That's when I rushed 00:17:13.769 --> 00:17:15.900 home. My son was staying with our neighbors so 00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:18.220 I got him and went home. We packed some clothes 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.619 and his laptop for school and we headed to my 00:17:20.619 --> 00:17:22.980 parents house 45 minutes away. I still haven't 00:17:22.980 --> 00:17:25.140 heard from my wife. Her phone is going straight 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:27.140 to voicemail. I've called the officer who gave 00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:29.660 me his card and he said she is at the hospital 00:17:29.660 --> 00:17:31.940 with the guy she's been cheating with. I'm sitting 00:17:31.940 --> 00:17:34.279 here in bed with my son on one side of me and 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.579 my 38 on the other. My dad is sleeping in his 00:17:37.579 --> 00:17:39.480 chair in the living room with the shotgun across 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:41.759 his lap and I've not slept in over 30 hours. 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:43.799 I don't even know where to start. Anything would 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.079 be helpful right now. Any advice or ideas? I'm 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:52.440 in a fog. Gee, you're in a fog? Bro, get out 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.500 of here. There is so much going on here. It is 00:17:56.500 --> 00:18:01.420 clear as crystal. Yeah, it is clear as mud. What 00:18:01.420 --> 00:18:04.960 is going on? You've got... You've got the dude 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.599 that's burnt to a crisp that is the offender 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.779 in the story. And then you've got the wife at 00:18:11.779 --> 00:18:15.619 his side at the hospital. Yeah. She was sleeping 00:18:15.619 --> 00:18:19.240 with him. She's like, another one. Forget my 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.160 family. I'm going to be with the perpetrator 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:25.720 here. And then he did her way dirty. He got essayed. 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.799 He got lit on fire. So that's post one. Oh my 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.839 gosh. Update number one. For those people who 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.640 said my post was fake, my only reply is I wish. 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.339 From the bottom of my heart it was. Sometimes 00:18:39.339 --> 00:18:41.759 the truth is stranger than fiction. For those 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.000 who said they couldn't find a news story, apparently 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.220 due to the nature of the attack, a lot of information 00:18:46.220 --> 00:18:49.900 was withheld. Even our local news outlets only 00:18:49.900 --> 00:18:52.440 reported it as an assault and it was nothing 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.079 more than a blurb on our nightly news. I found 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:56.920 out from my lawyer that police can literally 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.099 do or say anything they want, especially if you 00:18:59.099 --> 00:19:01.740 aren't under arrest. short of direct threats 00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:04.240 of harm. That includes lying directly to your 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:06.680 face, which they did. It turns out my wife wasn't 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.720 at the hospital with her lover when I contacted 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.099 the detective. She had been admitted to that 00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:13.579 hospital psychiatric facility much earlier in 00:19:13.579 --> 00:19:17.240 the day while he was still in surgery. Yikes! 00:19:17.919 --> 00:19:20.200 I don't know why they would lie about that, but 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.440 they did. Needless to say, this situation has 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:24.779 caused me to become very suspicious of law enforcement. 00:19:25.059 --> 00:19:27.460 After I woke up that afternoon, I contacted my 00:19:27.460 --> 00:19:29.619 uncle's law partner, who is a family friend. 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:31.700 He actually came to my parents' house and sat 00:19:31.700 --> 00:19:34.640 down with me to go over my options. His entire 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.079 law firm is now representing me, both in the 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.640 divorce and criminal defense. Okay, let's go. 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.359 That day, Sunday, he got... He got me an emergency 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.480 custody order and a protective order against 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.720 my wife, for me, my son, and my parents. Our 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.359 court date is in 60 days. The police served her 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:54.619 on Monday as she was leaving the psych hospital. 00:19:55.220 --> 00:19:57.380 According to her brother, who was a close personal 00:19:57.380 --> 00:19:59.599 friend of mine, she did not take it well. She's 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:01.180 staying with her parents for the time being. 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.000 I still haven't talked to her and she hasn't 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.559 made any attempt to speak to me either. Whether 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:07.859 that's due to shame, indifference, or the order 00:20:07.859 --> 00:20:10.339 of protection, I don't know. I'm glad of it all 00:20:10.339 --> 00:20:12.420 the same. My wife is not the person I thought 00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:15.059 she was, and I'm ashamed of myself for not seeing 00:20:15.059 --> 00:20:18.019 it sooner. It's crystal clear, baby. I mean, 00:20:18.299 --> 00:20:21.799 where is this going? I had to tell my son something, 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.359 so I decided to tell him the truth, age appropriate, 00:20:25.859 --> 00:20:27.660 and literally the first words out of his mouth 00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:30.200 was, please don't let mommy take me away. I asked 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:31.940 him why he would say that, and from what he tells 00:20:31.940 --> 00:20:33.900 me, my wife has been treating him very badly 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:36.660 when I wasn't around, and told him if he told 00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:38.720 me, she would take him away and my son would 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.859 never see me again. Oh, that's dumb. I hate that. 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:44.079 She's been emotionally torturing our son and 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.339 I was too blind to see it. That wrecked me more 00:20:46.339 --> 00:20:48.519 than the video to be honest. I told the lawyer 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.440 about what my son said and he used my son's statement 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.299 and her mental state and commitment to get the 00:20:54.299 --> 00:20:57.039 emergency custody. I have contacted his school 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:59.660 for therapy resources and he will start therapy 00:20:59.660 --> 00:21:01.700 after the first of the year. I feel like the 00:21:01.700 --> 00:21:03.700 worst father to ever walk the face of the earth 00:21:03.700 --> 00:21:06.079 at this point. Chill, bro. You can't be that 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.430 hard on yourself. As for our families, her parents 00:21:09.430 --> 00:21:11.750 contacted me Tuesday and asked to come see us. 00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:13.950 I was still with my parents at the time and I 00:21:13.950 --> 00:21:16.009 told them they could come, but she was not allowed 00:21:16.009 --> 00:21:19.170 anywhere near us. They agreed. They were so apologetic 00:21:19.170 --> 00:21:21.250 and her poor mother didn't stop crying the entire 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:23.690 time she was with us. Her father was heartbroken 00:21:23.690 --> 00:21:26.829 and kept referring to my wife as that girl. They 00:21:26.829 --> 00:21:28.490 both said they felt like something was going 00:21:28.490 --> 00:21:30.470 on with her and they did not raise her to be 00:21:30.470 --> 00:21:32.789 this way. We hugged and cried before they left 00:21:32.789 --> 00:21:34.529 and I told them they will always be a part of 00:21:34.529 --> 00:21:36.450 our lives no matter what happens with the divorce. 00:21:36.750 --> 00:21:38.950 After what my son told me, their visit was the 00:21:38.950 --> 00:21:41.450 hardest part of our whole ordeal. My lawyer has 00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:43.910 been doing amazing work so far. They found out 00:21:43.910 --> 00:21:46.009 that the man my wife was sleeping with has a 00:21:46.009 --> 00:21:48.529 long criminal record. One of the lawyers informed 00:21:48.529 --> 00:21:51.009 me that when they went to print out the guy's 00:21:51.009 --> 00:21:53.069 arrest record, the printer ran for five minutes 00:21:53.069 --> 00:21:56.410 straight. From what they could learn, he is currently 00:21:56.410 --> 00:21:58.549 on parole for drug offenses and has had gang 00:21:58.549 --> 00:22:01.130 affiliations in the past. He is still alive but 00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:03.230 in critical condition and still may not make 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.740 it. The firm has an investigator who contacted 00:22:05.740 --> 00:22:08.759 the coworker who drove my wife to the hospital. 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.700 The coworker informed them that my wife's affair 00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:14.980 was an open secret around the office. My lawyers 00:22:14.980 --> 00:22:17.440 think that's how the police figured out who I 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:20.259 was and who my wife was in the video. There are 00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:22.339 several photos of last year's Christmas party 00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:24.660 at her work and my wife and I are in several 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:26.359 of them. That's where I currently am in this 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.160 whole situation. I am just numb, still lost and 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:31.380 heartbroken. How long does the numbness last? 00:22:31.539 --> 00:22:34.000 And is there any way to get past this emotional 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.019 lethargy faster? I mean, really numb, like a 00:22:37.019 --> 00:22:39.099 dream. Everything I've just said has felt like 00:22:39.099 --> 00:22:41.539 it's happening to someone else. That sucks for 00:22:41.539 --> 00:22:43.180 the grandparents. Grandparents are like, oh, 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.829 that's our daughter. She did that to you? Yeah. 00:22:46.029 --> 00:22:50.410 That sucks. I think it's really great. The precautionaries 00:22:50.410 --> 00:22:52.569 he's taking, like he's doing all the right things. 00:22:52.710 --> 00:22:54.289 You've got a lawyer who's doing the restraining 00:22:54.289 --> 00:22:56.569 order. He's, especially with his parents and 00:22:56.569 --> 00:22:59.589 his son and him, like he's doing what he needs 00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:02.829 to do to protect his family. But protect? Yeah, 00:23:02.829 --> 00:23:06.190 she's crazy. But she didn't, we don't know if 00:23:06.190 --> 00:23:09.789 she did anything yet. Her mental health is pretty 00:23:09.789 --> 00:23:13.680 wild. So the whole restraining order thing? If 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.420 she's actually dangerous, if you feel like she's 00:23:15.420 --> 00:23:17.980 dangerous, okay. All right, let's move on to 00:23:17.980 --> 00:23:20.079 update number two. It's the last update. It's 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:22.480 a little long, but let's get it. Sorry for the 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.559 novel, I just needed to vent and get this week 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.180 off my chest. Found out wife was cheating from 00:23:27.180 --> 00:23:28.940 cops questioning me about the assault of the 00:23:28.940 --> 00:23:31.160 guy she was cheating with. Divorcing, now she 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.059 claims she has substance abuse problems and asks 00:23:33.059 --> 00:23:34.920 for another chance. I feel like an idiot for 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:36.900 not seeing it when we were together. I will start 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:38.819 off by saying thank you to everyone who replied 00:23:38.819 --> 00:23:41.220 to both my original post and the update. This 00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:43.849 sub really did help me so much. If I didn't respond 00:23:43.849 --> 00:23:46.049 to you directly, I'm sorry, but I got so many 00:23:46.049 --> 00:23:48.630 messages I can't keep up with them all. First, 00:23:48.690 --> 00:23:51.069 my son is doing so much better. He started therapy 00:23:51.069 --> 00:23:53.069 the first week of January and the difference 00:23:53.069 --> 00:23:55.509 is already noticeable. I asked him if he felt 00:23:55.509 --> 00:23:57.329 comfortable with me talking to his therapist 00:23:57.329 --> 00:23:59.309 and he said yes, so I've had a few discussions 00:23:59.309 --> 00:24:02.569 with her. According to the therapist, my soon 00:24:02.569 --> 00:24:05.109 -to -be ex would verbally and emotionally abuse 00:24:05.109 --> 00:24:07.089 our son whenever they were alone together. He 00:24:07.089 --> 00:24:09.289 was not allowed to make noise or bother her in 00:24:09.289 --> 00:24:11.660 any way when he was home. She would leave him 00:24:11.660 --> 00:24:14.000 alone for hours on end and even overnight if 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.880 I was out of town. She would then threaten him 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.119 with being taken away and never see me again 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.099 if he told me or anyone else. The therapist said 00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:24.319 this has made him feel powerless and dependent 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.460 in a time in his development that she should 00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:28.700 actually be feeling empowered and self -reliant. 00:24:28.940 --> 00:24:31.339 So to that end, I have bought him his own phone 00:24:31.339 --> 00:24:33.240 and helped him memorize family members' phone 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.440 numbers and as many addresses as are relevant. 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.079 I've also been teaching him situational awareness 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.140 to pay attention to street names and how to read 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:42.740 addresses on buildings. We've also role played 00:24:42.740 --> 00:24:45.519 how to ask people for help. How he can clearly 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.200 explain to strangers that he's in trouble and 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.640 he doesn't feel safe. I know this may sound silly, 00:24:49.819 --> 00:24:52.099 but my son can be a bit introverted and shy when 00:24:52.099 --> 00:24:54.180 he doesn't feel comfortable. Even though we've 00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:56.160 only been doing this for a few weeks, I can see 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:58.279 that it's really building his confidence. Any 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:00.359 suggestions on how to continue to build his self 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.640 -reliance would be really helpful. His safety 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.440 and well -being is still my number one concern 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.700 right now. As for myself, I'm doing as good as 00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:08.920 can be expected. I started therapy around the 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:10.900 same time as my son, and although I don't speak 00:25:10.900 --> 00:25:13.299 to my therapist as much as he does, this helped 00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:15.259 me to be able to talk through my thoughts and 00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:16.859 feelings about everything that has happened to 00:25:16.859 --> 00:25:19.329 us in our family. The numbness is gone, but it 00:25:19.329 --> 00:25:21.809 was replaced by a white hot ball of anger in 00:25:21.809 --> 00:25:23.509 the pit of my stomach whenever I think about 00:25:23.509 --> 00:25:25.990 my soon -to -be ex and what she's put our family 00:25:25.990 --> 00:25:28.349 through. Funny enough, although I hate feeling 00:25:28.349 --> 00:25:30.789 angry, it's a lot easier to deal with than the 00:25:30.789 --> 00:25:33.150 numbness. My therapist says this is a part of 00:25:33.150 --> 00:25:35.170 the grieving process and it's not how we feel, 00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:37.670 but how we channel those emotions that matter. 00:25:38.329 --> 00:25:40.869 My legal situation. Well, I'll be honest. It's 00:25:40.869 --> 00:25:42.630 the scariest thing I've ever dealt with in my 00:25:42.630 --> 00:25:45.250 life. I was awarded temporary full custody and 00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:47.230 child support, which I didn't want, but my lawyer 00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:49.869 pretty much demanded we asked for, as well as 00:25:49.869 --> 00:25:51.829 a continuation of the order of protection for 00:25:51.829 --> 00:25:54.829 myself and my son. At the request for an order 00:25:54.829 --> 00:25:56.930 hearing, which neither my wife nor her lawyer 00:25:56.930 --> 00:25:59.829 showed up to, the judge asked if we would allow 00:25:59.829 --> 00:26:02.849 supervised visitation, but my son absolutely 00:26:02.849 --> 00:26:04.950 refused, which was why my lawyer told me to bring 00:26:04.950 --> 00:26:07.509 him along. The judge asked my son if he would 00:26:07.509 --> 00:26:10.259 speak to him alone, and he agreed. The judge, 00:26:10.500 --> 00:26:12.940 stenographer, and a child welfare officer went 00:26:12.940 --> 00:26:15.240 into chambers with my son and met for about 10 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.460 minutes. After their meeting, the judge granted 00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:20.099 the temp orders and ordered therapy and psychological 00:26:20.099 --> 00:26:22.380 evaluation for my son. Luckily, the therapist 00:26:22.380 --> 00:26:25.460 he is seeing is somehow involved with or accredited 00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:27.240 to work with the court, so he doesn't have to 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:29.559 see another therapist. My lawyer said this is 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:31.160 a good thing because it means this therapist 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.279 can give a recommendation for custody, but it 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.339 still scares the hell out of me that she could 00:26:35.339 --> 00:26:37.640 get some form of custody after what she put him 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.400 through. As for the affair partner, I don't know 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.779 much. From what my lawyers have gathered, he's 00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:45.079 alive but still in the hospital. I haven't heard 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.059 from the police since my initial interview, so 00:26:47.059 --> 00:26:49.779 nothing new to report there. As for my soon -to 00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:51.980 -be ex, I still hadn't seen her since the day 00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:54.480 I was questioned until Thursday. She's attempted 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.480 to call me a few times, but I haven't answered, 00:26:56.539 --> 00:26:58.420 and when she called from another number, I hung 00:26:58.420 --> 00:27:00.720 up immediately. I have nothing to say to her, 00:27:00.740 --> 00:27:02.519 and I don't want to hear anything she has to 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.720 say to me. Her lawyer requested a preliminary 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.119 hearing for our court -appointed mediation. She 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.599 was served the second week of January. She was 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.279 there with her lawyer, and I know this will sound 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:13.420 petty, but even with the mask, she looked bad. 00:27:13.859 --> 00:27:15.900 My soon -to -be ex was always an attractive and 00:27:15.900 --> 00:27:18.000 athletic woman. I swear, in our wedding photos, 00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:20.619 she looks like a supermodel. But now, while she's 00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:22.500 lost so much weight, it's disturbing. She looks 00:27:22.500 --> 00:27:25.180 sick and frail. She didn't even look at me. She 00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:27.119 just sat with her face down through most of the 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.460 meeting. Long story short, everything they asked 00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:31.640 for was ridiculous. They wanted visitation during 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:33.960 the divorce proceedings and shared custody after. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.859 They want us to drop the OPs. She wants to cohabitate 00:27:37.859 --> 00:27:40.359 until the divorce is finalized. I'm not joking. 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.200 After all this, she wants to live in the same 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.799 house. It was so insulting that my head throbbed 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.940 through the whole meeting, but it was all worth 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.819 it for the big reveal we gave to her lawyer. 00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:52.220 Her lawyer asked how we should handle discovery 00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:55.099 for the division of assets to which my lawyer 00:27:55.420 --> 00:27:57.819 Got this shocked look on his face and said, what 00:27:57.819 --> 00:28:00.859 division of assets? Read the prenup. The look 00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:02.960 on her lawyer's face was priceless. She hadn't 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.160 told her lawyer about the prenup. My late uncle, 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:07.119 who's the founding partner of the law firm I 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.759 use, wrote that prenup and actually hired her 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.980 a lawyer to look over it for her before we were 00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:14.039 married. According to my lawyer, it's a thing 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.299 of beauty because we never mixed finances per 00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:18.660 my uncle's instructions. The house we live in 00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:20.779 was a gift to me from my uncle before we married. 00:28:21.259 --> 00:28:23.680 All the utilities and insurances are in my name. 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.400 All the vehicles are registered in the owner's 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.619 name only, and we never had to sign for any debt 00:28:29.619 --> 00:28:32.000 for each other. We have one shared savings account 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:33.839 that is used for household maintenance in an 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.880 emergency fund. Has around $8 ,000 in it, which 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.440 she has already drained. There is less than $300 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.890 in it now. The prenup states that all marital 00:28:41.890 --> 00:28:44.809 assets and debt are to be divided 50 -50, and 00:28:44.809 --> 00:28:47.009 ownership of all intangible assets and personal 00:28:47.009 --> 00:28:49.109 debt reverts back to the individual who recruited 00:28:49.109 --> 00:28:51.490 it. The adultery clause simply states that we 00:28:51.490 --> 00:28:53.390 agree that if either party is caught or admits 00:28:53.390 --> 00:28:55.269 to committing adultery, they lose the right to 00:28:55.269 --> 00:28:59.930 claim any form of spousal support. There's a 00:28:59.930 --> 00:29:02.089 lot more to it than this, but my lawyer assures 00:29:02.089 --> 00:29:04.839 me that trying to break this prenup will be damn 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.220 near impossible because it is the most fair prenup 00:29:07.220 --> 00:29:11.240 he's ever read. Oh my gosh. The last thing her 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.160 lawyer asked for was what really messed with 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.579 me. He asked that we postpone the official mediation 00:29:16.579 --> 00:29:18.680 for six months while my soon to be ex attends 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.779 an inpatient rehab facility for substance abuse. 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.440 Some people in both my last post stated that 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.980 she might have a substance abuse issue, but I 00:29:26.980 --> 00:29:28.519 didn't even think about it because I couldn't 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.609 even fathom that. I talked to my lawyer and he 00:29:30.609 --> 00:29:32.970 said that we would discuss it and get back with 00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:35.230 them about our decision on that. Before we left, 00:29:35.450 --> 00:29:37.829 my soon to be ex spoke literally for the first 00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:39.569 time and asked me to read a letter she had written 00:29:39.569 --> 00:29:42.630 me. My lawyer gave me the this could be a snake 00:29:42.630 --> 00:29:44.950 so be careful look and I debated with myself 00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.049 for a moment but decided to take it. When I got 00:29:47.049 --> 00:29:49.970 home, I read it. Now I wish it hadn't. It started 00:29:49.970 --> 00:29:51.890 off with all those busted cheater platitudes 00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:53.890 that everyone warned me about. I love you. I 00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:56.250 love our family. I know I mistreated our son. 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.440 And I hate myself for it. I want us again. But 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.119 she did explain that after a major surgery she 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.099 had about two years ago, she started abusing 00:30:04.099 --> 00:30:06.940 her medication. After a while, she started buying 00:30:06.940 --> 00:30:08.779 them from some of the people she worked with, 00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:12.640 including her AP. He became her go -to guy. And 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.400 when she ran out of money, she started sleeping 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.599 with him to make up the difference. She said 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.940 she hid this from me because she was afraid I 00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:22.400 would make her stop and she couldn't feel right 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.130 without them anymore. He meant nothing to her 00:30:25.130 --> 00:30:27.190 but a fix and she hates herself for doing what 00:30:27.190 --> 00:30:30.029 she's done both to herself and to us. Now she 00:30:30.029 --> 00:30:31.990 says she understands how awful what she's done 00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:34.670 is and wants to get better for our family and 00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:37.349 asked me to at least give her some time to prove 00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:39.950 she wants this. Let me stay for the record, I 00:30:39.950 --> 00:30:41.630 will never get back with my wife. Our marriage 00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:44.210 was over the moment she cheated on me and abused 00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:47.529 our son, but dang. Where the F was I while all 00:30:47.529 --> 00:30:49.430 this was going on? I just feel like the most 00:30:49.430 --> 00:30:52.650 naive, obtuse idiot to ever walk the earth. And 00:30:52.650 --> 00:30:54.349 furthermore, how should I approach this from 00:30:54.349 --> 00:30:56.829 here? Am I just throwing her away or am I still 00:30:56.829 --> 00:30:59.089 justified and feeling betrayed? I feel like such 00:30:59.089 --> 00:31:01.410 a failure as a husband and a father right now. 00:31:01.470 --> 00:31:03.450 I mean, I feel nothing for her but anger and 00:31:03.450 --> 00:31:05.670 resentment. But is this how you treat someone 00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:07.750 fighting the demon she's fighting? I'm just lost 00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:10.329 and feel so hopeless again. Anyway, any advice 00:31:10.329 --> 00:31:14.650 would be much appreciated here. Wow. So this 00:31:14.650 --> 00:31:17.710 is the crazy part. It's like the wife is obviously 00:31:17.710 --> 00:31:21.789 a horrible person Like there's no question the 00:31:21.789 --> 00:31:24.829 the mistreatment of the son is inexcusable all 00:31:24.829 --> 00:31:27.250 the stuff that she said the substance abuse, 00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:30.789 but then Like the human part of me pops up and 00:31:30.789 --> 00:31:33.750 is like, okay You could eviscerate this lady. 00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:37.789 You could literally ruin her life forever She 00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:39.690 never sees her son again. She gets nothing in 00:31:39.690 --> 00:31:43.309 the divorce because prenup or you could like 00:31:43.450 --> 00:31:46.650 Use it to have a really positive impact on her 00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:49.970 life not saying they need to be chummy but like 00:31:49.970 --> 00:31:54.190 extend grace What about like okay? It's the divorce 00:31:54.190 --> 00:31:57.410 is gonna be over Like why don't you try to lift 00:31:57.410 --> 00:32:01.250 her from the hellhole that she's in by just saying 00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:05.630 like visitations, okay? Like you can do supervised 00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:08.589 visits like he's gonna he's gonna ride off into 00:32:08.589 --> 00:32:10.769 the sunset. He's completely protected by the 00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:13.930 prenup He's gonna be fine You know, find a better 00:32:13.930 --> 00:32:17.470 spouse. Yeah, but the only person that's hurting 00:32:17.470 --> 00:32:20.730 is the son. Then you're just saying to have him 00:32:20.730 --> 00:32:25.269 open that door for the dad or for the mom to 00:32:25.269 --> 00:32:29.369 meet with the kid. But the kid is very much made 00:32:29.369 --> 00:32:32.990 it clear that, like, at this time, he wants nothing 00:32:32.990 --> 00:32:35.470 to do with her. Maybe when he's an adult, he 00:32:35.470 --> 00:32:38.809 can make that choice. But he's 11 right now. 00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:41.660 Right. And yeah, I mean. Of course, when he's 00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:44.220 an adult, he can, but I just think when you look 00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:46.480 at a situation like this, what's the best case 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.299 scenario, like the actual best case scenario 00:32:49.299 --> 00:32:53.019 for all parties involved? But her feelings really 00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:54.859 shouldn't matter at this point. Like we don't 00:32:54.859 --> 00:32:58.480 really care about her. Like she's kind of a crappy 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.200 person. And yeah, she's going through a really 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.960 hard time that she's going to need to get help 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.579 on her own. She shouldn't have to do that while 00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:09.769 damaging her son in the meantime. think it's 00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:11.630 great you're trying to be like the bigger person 00:33:11.630 --> 00:33:14.869 and be like give her grace but she's the only 00:33:14.869 --> 00:33:17.970 reason why I'm like against her being around 00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:20.349 the kid is because the kid has expressed all 00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:23.470 the things she's done to him and yeah I mean 00:33:23.470 --> 00:33:27.829 I just don't think a kid like a vulnerable sad 00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:30.490 kid that's gone through a lot of stuff he's not 00:33:30.490 --> 00:33:32.829 gonna have any like real concept of what's going 00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:35.930 on and like yeah he put yourself in this husband's 00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:39.289 shoes though what if it was me And what I did 00:33:39.289 --> 00:33:41.730 your daughter says that mom's been doing this 00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:47.650 for years and I am I am being questioned for 00:33:47.650 --> 00:33:52.170 lighting my affair partner on fire like You don't 00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:54.250 know for a fact if she was the one that did it 00:33:54.250 --> 00:33:56.829 or not No, I mean it didn't even say that she 00:33:56.829 --> 00:33:59.130 was being questioned but getting checked into 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:01.269 the psych ward is one thing. It's the letter 00:34:01.269 --> 00:34:04.559 It's the fact that she was like look is substance 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.380 abuse issues. But it was all self -serving. She 00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:11.400 wanted them to cohabitate. What is it, cohabitate? 00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:12.880 Yeah, cohabitate. You know, yeah, and that's 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.000 like, I would have said no to that. Like, definitely 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:16.699 not. That's what I'm saying. She just wanted 00:34:16.699 --> 00:34:18.920 to do it because she wants her old life back. 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:21.880 There's some of that, but there's also, like, 00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:24.539 she's destroyed everything. So at what point 00:34:24.539 --> 00:34:27.099 do you just say, hey, like, I'm going to help 00:34:27.099 --> 00:34:30.179 you toss the shovel out and stop digging the 00:34:30.179 --> 00:34:32.619 hole that you're already in. But it's not... 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.960 No, but it says it's the person that he loved 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.980 for all these years and every part of their relationship 00:34:40.980 --> 00:34:44.079 was great Yeah, what he thought yeah, that's 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.500 pretty wild. I mean it wasn't if she's over here 00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:48.519 doing her thing She's a probably person, but 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.460 exactly yeah, I mean We will agree to disagree 00:34:52.460 --> 00:34:55.320 on that. We definitely will yeah I think that 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.820 if there was a kid not involved then I would 00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:00.760 be more willing to say like if you need to help 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.260 her out a little bit go for it and you're a bigger 00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:05.440 person for doing that but because there's a kid 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.300 involved I disagree even though that was a long 00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:12.000 story that was a really good one and I feel like 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:17.460 there is a lot to unpack on that but we only 00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:19.980 have so many minutes in the day so many hours 00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:22.800 in the day so we're gonna move on to my story 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.570 and this will be the final story of the day So 00:35:27.570 --> 00:35:30.570 this comes from our relationship advice. Fun 00:35:30.570 --> 00:35:33.849 arrest records for the man M42 IF28 have been 00:35:33.849 --> 00:35:36.329 dating. How can I safely end things with him? 00:35:37.170 --> 00:35:40.329 IF28 started seeing M42 a few weeks ago. Invaded 00:35:40.329 --> 00:35:42.530 his job and instantly hit it off. I haven't really 00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:44.590 connected with anyone lately so I was super excited 00:35:44.590 --> 00:35:48.369 about this man. I really like him. However, something 00:35:48.369 --> 00:35:50.969 has felt off. It honestly felt like he was love 00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:53.010 bombing me. I thought he was just a cheesy guy 00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:55.630 or desperate but he does everything excessively. 00:35:55.929 --> 00:35:58.440 Like non -stop compliments and talk about how 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.800 I'm his dream girl. Flowers and gifts, loud displays 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.199 of affection in public, literally yelling out 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.340 loud how much he adores me. Plus, he is needed 00:36:06.340 --> 00:36:08.619 to have constant communication. If I don't respond 00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:11.280 to a text, he will spam until I respond. Aside 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.079 from the law of bombing, he is coming out of 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:14.719 a divorce. I haven't asked for details about 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.960 it because he doesn't know why my last relationship 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.079 ended either. All I know is they were married 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.519 for 20 years. She left him, and he was very depressed 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.289 for a while. but he keeps talking about me as 00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:27.369 if I'm a blessing that entered his life. His 00:36:27.369 --> 00:36:29.829 verbatim says when a door closes a window opens 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.809 and this window has finally opened at least once 00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:35.769 each time I see him. He has done this since the 00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:37.730 first date so at first I thought he was excited. 00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:39.949 I mean after the second date he was going to 00:36:39.949 --> 00:36:42.510 tell everyone he has a girlfriend. He did not 00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:44.750 ask me out. He and I took a selfie together. 00:36:44.789 --> 00:36:47.030 On Thursday he sent me a cropped version of just 00:36:47.030 --> 00:36:49.989 me that had my nose piercing photoshopped out 00:36:49.989 --> 00:36:53.159 and it was enhanced by AI. It really creeped 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.800 me out. I had been having a sinking feeling in 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:57.820 my stomach, so I canceled our plans for Thursday 00:36:57.820 --> 00:36:59.559 and Friday. On Friday night, I started telling 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.340 my neighbor about how weird the guy has been. 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:03.500 She asked if I had a photo, and I didn't, so 00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:06.079 I deep dived to find him. Like, I was working 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.960 off his age, first name, and last initial. I 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.880 found his Facebook, which confirmed his divorce. 00:37:11.179 --> 00:37:13.179 Something still felt off, so I Googled him, and 00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:15.869 a mugshot where he looks rough popped up. The 00:37:15.869 --> 00:37:18.769 charges listed were violation of protective order. 00:37:19.250 --> 00:37:21.550 I liked him, but now I'm kind of scared of them. 00:37:21.869 --> 00:37:23.449 Maybe I'm being dramatic. I just don't think 00:37:23.449 --> 00:37:26.190 I would feel safer on him. How can I safely end 00:37:26.190 --> 00:37:27.969 things? My neighbor said to block him, but I 00:37:27.969 --> 00:37:29.849 don't want to risk getting stalked or anything. 00:37:30.489 --> 00:37:34.889 Yikes. The dude's a sketch. Yeah. No, I definitely 00:37:34.889 --> 00:37:37.849 think it's so hard because I feel like as girls, 00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:40.210 especially it's like, Oh, maybe I'm being dramatic, 00:37:40.230 --> 00:37:42.690 but like, no, if your gut is telling you something's 00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:46.929 off, something is off. Trust it. and you're not 00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:50.570 being dramatic. This is creepy. Can you imagine 00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:53.030 taking a selfie with a guy you're dating and 00:37:53.030 --> 00:37:57.070 literally, he sends the selfie back, but he crops 00:37:57.070 --> 00:38:00.869 himself out and he takes out your nose ring and 00:38:00.869 --> 00:38:03.750 then you're AI'd, like you are enhanced. You 00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:06.369 look whatever, your skin's smoother, your eyes 00:38:06.369 --> 00:38:07.949 are brighter, your teeth are whiter, like all 00:38:07.949 --> 00:38:11.230 the things. Like what was the goal? I would be 00:38:11.230 --> 00:38:14.469 so shook. Hey, I fixed the hole in your nose. 00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:17.800 I would, and he cropped himself out. He took 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:19.900 himself out of it just to send it to her. Like 00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:23.000 I'd be like, where's the photo of me and you 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.780 that we took? Why would you do that? Like it's 00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:29.460 weird. Some 42 year olds need to stay off the 00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:33.840 internet. Yeah. So he's 42. He's 42. She's 28. 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.940 Yeah. Recently divorced. Just think about that. 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.039 He was married for 20 years. So he got married 00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:45.860 at 22. She was eight when he got married That 00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:50.380 is so gnarly that's so gross to like oh, and 00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:53.199 he's just all gas no breaks like oh, yeah This 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.719 is my girlfriend now like yeah, this is cool 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.579 my girlfriend. Look. She doesn't have a nose 00:38:57.579 --> 00:39:00.400 piercing I fixed it and he never even asked her 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.239 out like he never said will you be my girlfriend? 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.900 Yeah, I mean I don't really know how that all 00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:06.820 works But I do know that you don't just assume 00:39:06.820 --> 00:39:08.460 after two dates that you've got a girlfriend 00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:11.300 searching his name First of all, probably everyone 00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:13.380 should do that, right? If you're picking somebody, 00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.659 shouldn't you just like take a peek? I feel like 00:39:15.659 --> 00:39:17.800 this episode has got me thinking. Like I was 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.380 so naive. I didn't like, I mean, yes, I saw your, 00:39:20.380 --> 00:39:22.239 like I stalked your Instagram and your Facebook, 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.179 but. At length. No, and your Twitter. Scrolling 00:39:27.179 --> 00:39:31.559 into the history books. I felt like this episode 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.659 opened my eyes to like ladies and men. If you're 00:39:35.659 --> 00:39:39.610 dating. Look them up Google that name and see 00:39:39.610 --> 00:39:43.070 what comes up because you can never be too careful 00:39:43.070 --> 00:39:45.869 Seriously, and yeah I'm just thinking of the 00:39:45.869 --> 00:39:47.829 reality for a lot of people if you live in a 00:39:47.829 --> 00:39:50.389 big city if you live in Say you live in Phoenix 00:39:50.389 --> 00:39:53.630 you live in New York City or LA like yeah if 00:39:53.630 --> 00:39:56.130 you meet somebody you come from different worlds 00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:58.889 different places like It probably is the right 00:39:58.889 --> 00:40:00.989 thing to do to get a background check done to 00:40:00.989 --> 00:40:03.389 like just find out anything that you want to 00:40:03.389 --> 00:40:05.829 find out hundred percent it sounds dramatic, 00:40:05.889 --> 00:40:09.809 but man you just never know like you never know 00:40:09.809 --> 00:40:12.349 you could date somebody and it's like they you 00:40:12.349 --> 00:40:16.090 could have no idea it could be a spy oh i mean 00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:19.329 spies aren't that bad unless it's a russian spy 00:40:19.329 --> 00:40:24.539 that's here to take out the president You guys, 00:40:24.579 --> 00:40:26.719 that is our story. Now remember, the premise 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.360 of our entire podcast is we do three truths and 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.159 one fake. You guys need to think about which 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.820 story you think was the fake of this week's episode. 00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:35.880 In the beginning of next week's episode, we'll 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:40.019 announce which fake was from this episode. Sorry 00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:43.300 if that's confusing, but stay with me here. So 00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:46.039 again, the theme, I loved you, then I Googled 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.440 you. It was a good time, you guys. Thanks for 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.519 being here. And Waterboy. We love you. Go check 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.539 them out, you guys. We actually have an Amazon 00:40:54.539 --> 00:40:57.219 storefront now. So search internet frenzy storefront 00:40:57.219 --> 00:41:00.219 on Amazon. And it's everything that we absolutely 00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:03.300 love is going to pop up there. Trust me. There's 00:41:03.300 --> 00:41:06.019 some good stuff. And like literally, that's it. 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.380 That's it, y 'all. Have a good week. We'll see 00:41:09.380 --> 00:41:11.039 you guys next week. Don't worry. We're getting 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:13.599 back on the horse here. The episodes are going 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.420 to start coming in a little bit more frequently. 00:41:15.940 --> 00:41:18.320 Last thing I'm going to mention for the podcast 00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.590 listeners. We've had a couple of guests that 00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:23.530 we were excited about that bailed on us. That's 00:41:23.530 --> 00:41:26.329 part of why we've dealt with some delays and 00:41:26.329 --> 00:41:29.449 this and that. Thank you for tuning in and we 00:41:29.449 --> 00:41:31.750 will see you guys next week. And get a background 00:41:31.750 --> 00:41:34.369 check. Bye! Yeah, get a background check on your 00:41:34.369 --> 00:41:50.579 mom. Gotta go! Click no pretending