1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Well hey. Hey, how the heck are you? 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,920 I'm doing a lot better now that I'm wearing this Nassau Bahamas shirt. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,240 These shirts right here, my parents got them for us. They went to the Bahamas. 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:16,240 That's right, just got back. These were our souvenirs. So we're representing. 5 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:19,200 One day we'll be able to go on a cruise to the Bahamas. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Let's go. Oh, all right. Well, welcome back. It's fun. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,320 Happy Valentine's Day everybody. Happy Valentine's Day. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,640 Hope you all had a great holiday. We did. It was fun. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,760 Yeah. Last episode dropped on Valentine's Day. So 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,920 a little Valentine's exclusive. This episode's going to be a doozy. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Yes. A little bit longer stories, but buckle the frick up. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Because the theme for this week is loose lips, sink ships, 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,000 aka times where somebody spilled the beans. We've all been there. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Oh, have we? Yes, we have both ways. I don't know what you mean by that, but 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 isn't that like a saying like if you fart, you spilled the beans? 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:13,040 Is that not a saying? Oh, I'm going to need you to like settle in here a little bit. 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Act like you've done this before. Oh my gosh. Is that really not a saying? 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Tell me right now. No, that's not a saying. Spill the beans is like, 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,000 no, I know like that's the only one out of your mouth. 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Where do we go from here? I think you should start us out, 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,600 but we need to talk about who the fake was last week. 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,080 I was just going to get to that if we could just get past the talk about poop and farts. 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,080 So for the Valentine's Day exclusive, my story was fake. One of my two. 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,040 Let us know if you guys got that. If you understand the concept, 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,280 one of the stories every week is going to be generated by chat GPT. 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,800 So we want to know if you guys are picking up on this or if chat GPT is really good. 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,160 We all know they're pretty, it's pretty freaking good, but this week it's going to be difficult 28 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,720 because all the stories are bonkers. Follow along, do what you do best, but loose lips, 29 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,640 sink ships. Who's going to lead us off? And when he says, let us know who you think is the fake, 30 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:19,200 go to our social media, go to our Instagram, go to our YouTube and tell us, write it out. 31 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Tell us which one you think is the fake. We post our episode on YouTube every week as well, 32 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,600 so you'll be able to see our faces talking as well if you like YouTube. If not, 33 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,840 keep it up with the podcast. It's growing, it's killing it, so we're stoked. 34 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:39,760 We love the listeners from all over the world. It's literally so exciting. It's been so fun. 35 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,960 We're based in little old Arizona. And we get to see. Don't tell them the city, just say Arizona. 36 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Oh yeah, because they're going to be after us. We're based in Arizona. 37 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,440 And it's really fun to see listeners all over the world. So shout out to you guys. 38 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,680 Thanks for the support. Let's get into it because we got some fun stories for this week. 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:15,600 I'm so excited. Okay, I'll let you start tonight. Yeah, you will. 40 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:29,360 This one is pretty good. A trigger warning for anything relating to living a sheltered life. 41 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,120 This story is crazy for as far as spilling the beans is concerned. 42 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:39,360 Only one meaning for spilling the beans. Yeah, you've made that crystal clear. So thank you. 43 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 That goes for all the listeners too in case there's any question. 44 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,720 I don't think anyone else would have that question. But I agree. 45 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Thank you. Start your damn story. 46 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,560 All right, you're not ready for this and they're not either. Today I aft up by forgetting that 47 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,520 Reddit is only as anonymous as you make it in parentheses and blowing up my relationship with 48 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,880 my family over it. So obligatory. This isn't technically today. Really, this is more like 49 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,200 I've been kind of dumb for like 10 years. But hey, buckle in, it's going to be a long one. 50 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,840 My childhood was exceptionally isolated. When I was about five years old, we moved to the top of 51 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,720 a mountain in the middle of the desert, ostensibly because my parents wanted their eventual 11 52 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,760 children to grow up free and wild, but also because extremely traditional Catholicism tends to stick 53 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,400 for children when they when those children have absolutely no contact with reality. We would 54 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 descend the mountain for church on Sundays and then once a month we would join other Catholic 55 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,120 homeschoolers for a morning at a local park and some others we did 4-H. But that was about the 56 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:43,040 extent of my socialization. I was unhappy, but I was never quite sure why and my parents were 57 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,320 always very quick to explain that my unhappiness was a result of the devil or a spiritual attack. 58 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,360 Enter the internet, the glorious populated community filled internet. As an older teen, 59 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,760 I began doing some classes online and I got an ancient brick of a laptop to help with that. 60 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,680 And naturally, I eventually found Reddit. Finally, I found a place where I could have 61 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,800 community with other people and nobody would would ever have to know. I was an awkward homeschooler 62 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,920 with a terrible long skirt and an awful haircut. I started in the Catholicism subreddit and tended 63 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,280 to keep it open in one page in case my parents walked in and then in another page I could explore 64 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:21,680 and owe the freedom of exploration. I learned history and science. I joined fandoms and 65 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,880 discovered podcasters. I learned interesting terms like bisexual and even saw pornography for the 66 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,440 first time. And I talked to other people, people who weren't homeschooled or sheltered or even 67 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:37,280 Catholic. Not gonna lie, I said some BS. For the first solid oh six years that I was there, 68 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:41,200 I was drinking that Catholic Kool-Aid hard. If you look far enough back at my history, 69 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,960 you'll find a homophobic, transphobic, religious bigot. Honestly, hella cringe. I also had a habit 70 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,360 of occasionally complaining about the things my family did, especially as I began to realize just 71 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,560 how desperately abnormal and unhealthy my childhood was. Word to the wise, kids don't post your family 72 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,680 drama on your main. It will eventually come back and bite you in the ass. Eventually, with time 73 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,160 and love joining the real world, I grew out of the cringe. I left the Catholic Church once I finally 74 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,200 realized the depths of its misogyny, racism, and corruption. I realized that the fun word bisexual 75 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,760 described me and started meeting with other queer people and found out that they were not depraved 76 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,000 predators but honestly the warmest and most lovely bunch of people I'd met. I learned the real truth 77 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,480 behind all the pro-life things I'd been taught. I read books about abortion and trans rights. 78 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,880 I connected with people in my town and then started doing IRL things once COVID ended 79 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,200 and now I volunteer at my library every week. I realized that I'm not broken and disgusting, 80 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,440 waiting to be saved by an angry god. I made real friends and really learned to love myself for the 81 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,000 first time but you've been waiting for the F up. I made the catastrophic mistake of posting a picture 82 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,040 of my sister's wedding on Reddit. You think that was nothing. I thought that was nothing. But my 83 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,680 sister's ex who has been involved in a decade long custody battle with her did not think it was 84 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,480 nothing. In fact, he somehow managed to find the post and then from there find my Reddit account. 85 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,440 And boom, 10 years of content. Homeboy must have read through thousands of posts and comments and 86 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,360 he found the ones where I complained about my childhood, commiserate with people about how my 87 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,840 family is still conservative when I've gone to the liberal dark side, weird poems about fights with 88 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,480 my sister that I wrote at 18, he went through posts about my struggles with fertility and struggles 89 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,320 with religion and he entered screenshots of them into evidence as proof that my family was not fit 90 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,920 to be around the kid summary because OP is a little wordy. Yeah. She posts a picture that she's at 91 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:32,160 her sister's wedding. This helps her sister's ex identify her. He happens to stumble across her 92 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:38,400 photo and then sees 10 years of her basically being like a in her words like a very sheltered 93 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:44,720 child and sees this evolution and then is using that in the custody battle against her sister and 94 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,520 their kids. Right. Like it's like incriminating not incriminating, but like throwing shade at the 95 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:55,920 entire family based on what she said. Oh, no. By the time I had been told what happened, told the 96 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,360 delete posts, it was too late. My dad had the screenshots and then he went and found more. 97 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,800 My whole family saw them. My grandparents called and texted in horror. My aunt across the country 98 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,280 was dragged into it. The next thing I knew I had text after text from my sister telling me that I 99 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,160 needed to make a statement that I was a psychotic lunatic lying about all of it. My mother apparently 100 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,480 wrote a statement for me that said that said as much according to another sibling that saw it 101 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,520 before she tried to make me sign it. My sister claimed that wouldn't get custody of her kid back 102 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,000 if I didn't either claim psychosis or sign a statement to that effect because that's perjury 103 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,680 though. I did not because see, I'm not a lunatic. I'm a dumbass who over shares on Reddit and 104 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:42,320 parentheses who isn't and I've been diagnosed with depression. Who hasn't? But psychotic? No. I wrote 105 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,360 my own statement basically laying out all of what I just said. I was a sheltered kid who used the 106 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,680 internet badly and some of what I had said online has been said without the full knowledge of their 107 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:56,560 respective situations, but my mistakes were my own. And because my sister had been adamant that I 108 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:01,920 needed to call myself psychotic and my mother had already written something for me, I thought it best 109 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,320 to send to my sister's lawyer directly so that nothing could be added or amended without my 110 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,040 knowledge. This was apparently a big mistake. I woke up to an email from my sister about how she 111 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,760 can't believe I would imply that I don't trust her, would you? And how I'm going to die alone 112 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,560 without any friends or family. She's going to paint me in court as psycho anyway because only a crazy 113 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:26,480 person would, checks notes, talk to a lawyer in a legal situation instead of the person who already 114 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,120 seems to have made plans to have you perjure yourself. My whole family basically hates me and 115 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,880 that's the end of that. All in all you might agree no great loss and it's not. No friends. The loss 116 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,560 is this Reddit account. 10 years of karma, 10 years of relationships and carefully curated content. 117 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:46,880 I shall have to start again with a new account, hopefully much more anonymous this time around. 118 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,600 I'm torn between never touching this account again and using it as my new account exclusively for 119 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,240 writing erotica content. Since now I know my father will be looking on all of my posts and 120 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,200 disapproval anyway. Might as well lean into it. I'd say I'll catch you all on the flip side but I 121 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,760 really hope I'm not caught anywhere. I'm so ready to go back to being just another anonymous face 122 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,840 in the Reddit crowd and this time I plan to stay that way. Talk about spilling the beans. 123 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Yes, 10 years worth. 10 years worth of just like she used it as her personal diary, her personal 124 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,720 just like corner of the world that she could just unload all the feelings, all the things like being a 125 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:31,520 a teenager in general. Right, right. Regardless of your cultural influence, like to have that all 126 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,680 blow up and affect a custody battle, goodness. I guess honestly, I'm kind of just jumping to like 127 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:43,840 what freaking happened? Did she get custody of her kid? Like did it fully screw her over? 128 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:52,800 This was posted 12 hours ago. This is brand new. Stop. Yeah. And it's posted on today. I f'd up. 129 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Go check it out listeners. You can go read it yourself and look for an update. There is no 130 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:05,280 update. Wow. The Reddit is going in on this one though. And a lot of it is like people are saying, 131 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,760 I like this one. Honestly, given your sister's reaction, I strongly suspect her ex may have a 132 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,480 point. Your teenage angst wouldn't be enough to cause her to lose custody unless things already 133 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:21,200 look very bad for her. Yeah, which is true. It's so true. Like the parents making her sign 134 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:28,640 something saying that like she's crazy. Yeah, you're a lunatic. She lied. Like that's so sad. 135 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:35,840 So sad. So sad. Yeah, no. One thing, I mean, we're not, we're not going to get into the ins and 136 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,560 outs of different religions and like what people believe or what it causes people to feel or anything 137 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:46,720 like that. But just the tradition alone. Yeah. Of religion that can be very damaging for people 138 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:54,480 that don't learn how to think for themselves. Yeah. And like, I feel empathy, sympathy for poor OP, 139 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:00,160 for living that sheltered lifestyle, thinking that she's safe to just like, let it all out on the 140 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,040 internet and then having it completely blow up like that. Even if you say you don't care. Yeah, 141 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:11,440 losing your family, that sucks. And you didn't, you didn't do anything. You just, you grew up in 142 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,400 the environment that you were like, that was your escape. That's where you were able to talk about 143 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,840 anything and everything. Sad. And then their whole, oh, and like majority of it's about them too. 144 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Yeah. And that's the thing is it just reflects so badly on the family and on the culture and like 145 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:33,120 all of that. 12 hours ago posted. So when she posted that, could the family see that? Well, 146 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,760 yeah. So this is from her, this is from that account. So like if they go looking, like then 147 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,560 they would be, they would definitely be able to see it. Oh, wow. And some people, I mean, we, we're 148 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,160 not like redditors. We haven't been like real Reddit users, but this is like a whole freaking 149 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:56,160 community where 10 years where this is like her, I'm just trying to imagine a social media account, 150 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:02,320 but more personal, right? Like more like almost like a blog that you just, you just freely say 151 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:08,160 what you want to say because nobody knows to have that blow up. That's, that's rough. That is a good 152 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:14,560 story for this episode. Like just the cat out of the bag. Like literally perfect. I love, okay, 153 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:18,880 last one and then we'll move on. Last comment. Seems like the horse is out of the barn, so to 154 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,840 speak. So personally, I keep the account and lean into it and be petty as you want to be. 155 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,600 You know your audience, here's your chance to take advantage of their insistence on being 156 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:33,760 weirdly fascinated with the Reddit account. It's their choice to read or not. Yeah. The horse is 157 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,960 out of the barn. I've never heard that one. Cats out of the bag. A horse is out of the barn. The 158 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:46,800 beans have been spilled. I'm losing it tonight. It's the shirt. It's the shirt. It makes me 159 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,560 feel a different way. Yeah. The swordfish on your shirt is making you make horse noises. 160 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Yeah. We're wearing swordfish shirts, guys, and they're lime green. They have lots of colors. 161 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Okay, let's have you read your story so you stay awake. I accidentally got my best friend's mom 162 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:11,360 arrested. So yeah, I ruined my best friend's life because I can't keep my mouth shut. 163 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,040 It happened a few months ago and I still feel sick thinking about it. I, 17M, was hanging out with 164 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,680 my best friend Nate, 17M, when his mom, we'll call her Miss K, offered to drop me off at home. No big 165 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,240 deal, right? We were driving through this neighborhood. It was dark and out of nowhere. This guy just 166 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,800 sprinted into the street like full on darted in front of us. Miss K slammed on the brakes, 167 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:41,600 but it was too late. We hit him hard. I remember the sound more than anything. A sickening thud, 168 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,320 and the guy rolling over the hood before hitting the pavement. I was frozen. I thought he was 169 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:52,560 freaking dead. I barely had time to process anything before Mrs. K yelled, we can't stay here. I was 170 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,080 like, what? We have to call 911. But she was already driving away. But she was already driving 171 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,200 away fast. She kept muttering stuff like he ran out. It wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. 172 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,800 And technically, she wasn't wrong. Dude came out of nowhere, but still we just left him there. 173 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,320 The whole night I felt sick. I barely slept. The next day it was all over the news. Local man 174 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,440 injured and hit and run police searching for suspect. He didn't die, but he broke both his 175 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:27,040 legs and an arm. Yeah, that's like horrible. I didn't tell anyone for weeks, but my dad knew 176 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,760 something was up. He kept asking what was wrong and I kept brushing him off, but eventually it 177 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:38,480 just slipped. I told him everything. And then he went into the cops. They tracked down Mrs. K 178 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:44,000 within two days. Turns out she had a little damage on her car that matched the accident. And since I 179 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,720 told them what happened, it was game over. She got arrested for leaving the scene and now she's 180 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,760 looking at jail time. Now Nate won't talk to me at all. He won't even look at me. And I get it, 181 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,040 I really do. But I also just couldn't keep it to myself forever, right? Right? 182 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:06,000 There's no way he should have been expected to keep that to himself. No shot. I feel so bad for 183 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,040 him because I'm like, yeah, in all the comments, there's actually like a few different kind of 184 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,240 like viewpoints, but a lot of them are saying like, no, you absolutely did the right thing. So I'm 185 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,280 glad he's at least getting that kind of like affirmation because there's no way you keep a 186 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:28,240 freaking secret. What if he died? Yeah. Like, no, not for miss freaking stupid miss K like 187 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,520 I'm sure that's mortifying that you smoke somebody with your car. But if it's true that he just darted 188 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,280 out you had nothing you could do about it. Like you do the responsible thing and you call the 189 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,240 police and you like, you got to do what you got to do. Yeah, you have to. You have to. That's part 190 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,760 of just driving you assume that risk just being on the road operating a motor vehicle. Yeah. 191 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:58,320 That's reminded me of multiple things, but oh, you know where my mind is going to go? Yes. Rico. 192 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:09,360 You guys, this is so sad. This is horrible. So this is horrible. This low key blends the last 193 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:14,880 story into this story too. And it's been a weird way. So we're driving down the road. This is a 194 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:22,400 true story that happened to us. We took the missionaries out to dinner on a random Tuesday night 195 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,600 never again in Montana. We were up there. I was we were I was in school and we took them out and 196 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,800 we were done with dinner driving them back to the mission office. And I'm just plugging down this 197 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:39,280 like residential road in Billings and very similar to the story. Like I'm just driving and I literally 198 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:45,120 did not see one thing. I'm driving. I'm not speeding. I'm driving down just a neighborhood that has 199 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:50,480 homes on each side of the road. It's like 25 mile an hour speed limit. I'm doing 26 maybe. 200 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Maybe you were going to speed like I was like not going fast, but I going down the road and all 201 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:02,800 of a sudden I hear this. I'm like, that didn't feel like a drive like I drove over a sewer or 202 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,960 something like if you definitely had like a different feel to it. Oh yeah. And everyone was 203 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:14,080 like, Oh, like what the heck? What was that noise? Yeah. And I'm as I'm driving up the road, I like 204 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,680 look up the rear, look at my rear view mirror and I see just a ball of fluff in the middle of the road 205 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:27,440 and very shortly after a woman sprinting. And so the mission office was literally at the end of 206 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,160 this road. And so I'm like, yeah, I was like four houses down from where he hit Rico. So I literally 207 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:38,880 just clapped this dog and I need to get these missionaries back to their office. And so I like 208 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,560 I pull over and there was never a doubt in my mind that I was going to circle back and go back and 209 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,280 see what happened, see what was going on. I just pulled a little bit forward and told the missionaries 210 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:57,280 go go do what you got to do. I'm going to go and give CPR to a dog. And it's funny because the 211 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,360 missionaries got out some guy from across the street comes over and is like, Hey, get your 212 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:07,200 ass back there. You need to go and you just killed that dog. It's like, what? Like what is going on? 213 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:14,880 Turn the car around, drive back down. And this little poodle mixed dog named Rico, very sad, 214 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,480 was very clearly going to die in the middle of the road. And his owner was it was this couple, 215 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:26,560 this older couple. No, the girl came out first and she was wearing a dress. Well, yeah. And she was 216 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:33,200 and she was she was just wailing, wailing this poor dog's name. Rightfully so. And like, 217 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,160 she was saying all sorts of mean things to me. I don't remember what she was saying. It's like, 218 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:44,080 I have dogs. I love dogs. I felt horrible. Yeah, Joe was tearing up and the whole time he had his 219 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,720 hands on his mouth and like his cheeks just shaking his head and he had like his eyes were 220 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,760 red. He was tearing up like he felt horrible. And he was just like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 221 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,800 He was just standing there awkwardly. I'm staying in my car and I'm like, Oh my gosh, Joe, get back 222 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,880 in the car. There's nothing we can do for this family. And they want to kill you. So like, 223 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,360 anyways, but I want to say one more thing. Or do you want to say this part? Or she's 224 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:15,920 on the ground? Just spread eagle? Yes, she's wearing a dress. It's so sad. Like losing a dog is 225 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:22,320 absolutely watching them get over. That's the thing is like, what I gathered what she said was 226 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,040 like, she had opened the door, the dog was at the neighbor's house or something. And so she just 227 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:32,160 pulled in, called out to the dog and the dog was running to her. Because I remember her saying like, 228 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:38,240 you were just so excited to see me. But it was like, I didn't have a chance. I didn't see the dog 229 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,520 for a second. Yeah, you didn't. None of us did. We were all it was silent in the car first of all. 230 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,880 And we're all just staring straight ahead. You weren't going fast. I actually was like, dude, 231 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,360 hurry and drop them off. Why are we going so slow? Well, I'm like, yeah, we're just like on a 232 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:58,160 residential road. Like there was nothing in none of it was your fault. There's nothing you could 233 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:05,200 have done. But I, I legitimately was I was rattled. It shook me up bad for hours and hours and even 234 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:11,280 days like no weeks, we can kind of joke about it now just because of how like, first of all, 235 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,840 if that's our sense of humor, second of all, it was crazy. This lady laid on the laid on the 236 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:23,040 concrete and was just like, oh, and the dog's name was Rico like, 237 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,160 she just kept repeating it over and over and spread eagles and wearing a dress just in the 238 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,560 middle of the road just screaming it. And then all of a sudden you see the husband run out and he is a 239 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,680 what was the pastor? I don't like like a Catholic priest. Like he was like wearing like the black 240 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200 thing and it was like the turtleneck thing and it has a white, I don't know, little thing. 241 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,240 In any ways, like, basically how could you saying all this type stuff to me and I'm standing there 242 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,120 taking all of it with my hands over my mouth just like, I'm so sorry. And then he comes up and is 243 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:01,760 like scooping up the dog and like, it's really sad. It was like, it was devastating because the lady 244 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:08,720 is absolutely in shambles. We all know the dog's not going to make it. It was horrible. And thankfully, 245 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,160 this guy was like, you should probably just go you can't change anything now. I was like, that's 246 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,520 the permission I was looking for to now leave because I know I can't change this. That was the 247 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:25,840 it's that's like the worst even now. Your dog went across the street, honey. That's like that. 248 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,200 Like this man don't run across the street dart out in front of a car. Rico should have known. 249 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:37,120 That's so sad. RIP Rico, I'm gonna give you the best like ear scratches in heaven one day, 250 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:42,880 little buddy. He's not gonna see you. Well, I mean, apparently, he's gonna run wherever he wants. 251 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:51,200 He's gonna dart. I don't know. He's probably looking down at you. Maybe maybe they were not 252 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,080 that good to him. And so we we got him out of a bad situation. This horrible. I was gonna say, 253 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:02,560 maybe he was OP in this story. Yeah. So one of the comments was, you weren't the one who hit the guy. 254 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,040 So why did you have to say anything if you kept quiet, your friends family wouldn't be falling 255 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:13,200 apart right now? Some things just aren't your business. Dude, this guy freaking both legs and 256 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,080 an arm broke. And you don't even yeah, it's like you don't even know. You don't know what could 257 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:24,240 come of that. What if he would have died? I don't know how some people operate. And I would love to 258 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:31,120 know how this man was found. Like he didn't have anyone to help him at that point when he got ran 259 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:36,560 over. I'm literally picturing Rico Street. I'm picturing him just being like there's homes on 260 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,960 each side. And he's like moaning and groaning like somebody's gonna come outside or like do 261 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,880 something. I'm picturing like dark pitch black, like not a neighborhood that's super like active, 262 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,800 like, I don't know. That's what I'm picturing. But another comment that I was like, okay, like he 263 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:59,040 said your dad snitched snitched. Oh my gosh, your dad snitched not you. You only told your dad 264 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,880 because you're struggling with guilt. You didn't go to the police. He did. So should your friend 265 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:10,080 really be mad at you or your dad? So take you tack. Yeah, dog. Sorry friend, your mom smoked a human 266 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,120 being with her car and didn't stop. And she was like, like basically like, be quiet, be quiet, 267 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:20,800 like, we gotta go. That's like some that's like a trauma response. It's like the she's just terrified 268 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,840 fight or fly like what do we do? Like I don't want to go to jail. Yeah. It would be one thing 269 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,240 like I'm picturing like a dark alley and I like a guy runs out in the middle of the street and I 270 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,320 hit him. Am I going to like pull over and get out and my daughter's in the backseat and I'm just 271 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,080 like completely exposed, you know, I don't know what I would do in that moment. I'd probably be 272 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,280 really scared and freaking out. But the first thing I'm doing is I am calling the cops 100% 273 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,120 percent. I don't know. Keep going so be it. But like, I wouldn't keep going. I would stop. But I 274 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:57,280 feel like I would be so scared. I watched so many crime shows. Like I would just be so scared to get 275 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,760 out and who knows what happens next, especially if I have my daughter with me. So stay behind the 276 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,520 wheel in case you have to run him over again. Yeah, reverse that mother effort. This one comes 277 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:16,640 from best of redditor updates on our anniversary. My 27 m wife 27 F and I were intimate and she said 278 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:29,440 another man's name during sex. He's a mutual friend. I'm at a loss. How do I navigate this? Oh my gosh. 279 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:39,520 You are not ready. I would rip your vocal cords out. Yeah, you would. Yeah. I know. Of course you 280 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:47,600 would. But in case you missed it, this is about her, not him. I'm 27 M in a fight with my wife, 281 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:53,440 27 F after an incident during intimacy. For context, we're high school sweethearts married for six 282 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,320 years. We have a child three M. We've been through a lot together and I love her deeply. Our marriage 283 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,920 is in a rough patch. Our quality time as a couple is struggling. We're in counseling. We're working 284 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,960 on making time for each other and reaffirming our bond. That's our current focus in counseling. 285 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,000 And we're assigned intimacy exercises. Part of these exercises is for us to make a consistent 286 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,720 conscious effort for each other. We had a staycation to celebrate our anniversary while our son spent 287 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,960 the weekend at his grandparents. The trip was largely nice and we got to better focus on each 288 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,960 other, but it took a turn. The night of our anniversary, we were cuddling and it turned into 289 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,160 more. My wife initiated. She was really into it and expressive and then out of nowhere, she moaned 290 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,960 another man's name who's in our friend group. We stopped immediately. There was no mistaking what 291 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,080 she said. She looked stunned before recovering and treating it like a texting typo or something. 292 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,560 When I questioned why she'd say another guy's name, let alone one of our friends, she swore it 293 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,240 meant nothing and that she was just consumed with what I was doing. I couldn't buy it. I don't believe 294 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,520 it meant nothing. Not the passionate way she said it. I believe she was fantasizing about him while 295 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,800 being with me. She insisted it wasn't like that and was only a slip of the tongue. I asked why his 296 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,760 name in particular. First, she didn't know. Then she said maybe because she was replying to his texts 297 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,360 earlier in the group chat. When I pushed back, she got defensive. She said I was making something out 298 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,760 of nothing and how it didn't need to ruin our anniversary. I told her nothing she was saying 299 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,160 was reaching me and I needed some time. She tried kissing me and initiating again like nothing 300 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,320 happened, but I turned her down. The incident put a damper on the rest of the trip. We haven't been 301 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,520 intimate since and any steps we've made forward with our exercises have taken a significant leap 302 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,640 back. We're in a cycle of awkward silence even in front of our son or her ignoring the elephant in 303 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,200 the room. She's being extra affectionate now, but I can't shake what happened. I never thought 304 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,280 twice about their friendship, but now I'm seeing past interactions differently. I love my wife. She 305 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,440 and our son mean the world to me. I've been committed to working on our marriage, but I'm at a loss 306 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:57,520 here. I feel my wife isn't being honest and is attempting to rug sweep by pouring on affection. 307 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,880 I'm left reconsidering everything. I don't know how to navigate forward. I need outside perspectives. 308 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Bro, she's banged him for sure. For sure they have had sex before. 309 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,840 So you don't think that it could have been just a fantasy? She was obviously in a different place 310 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:27,760 in her mind. No, I mean, I can't relate to this in any way, but I'm just like, his name 311 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:36,640 being said out loud in a sexual way has happened before. There is just no ifs or buts about that. 312 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:44,320 She has 100% done sexual things with that friend. So a lot of the commentators, a lot of the commenters 313 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:51,440 agree with you. So yeah, that's a lot of them are saying, okay, well, check the phone records, 314 00:28:51,440 --> 00:29:00,800 find out. But this is the story that keeps on giving. So like the sex life. 315 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,360 Here's a couple of comments. Definitely need to save conversations on this for your counseling 316 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:13,040 sessions. I highly recommend using a therapist certified in the Gottman method. No clue what 317 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,440 that is. If you guys know what that is, leave a comment, leave a link, something. Yeah, I don't 318 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,760 know what it is either. Maybe we'll check it out. Second comment. Okay, if this happened with my 319 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200 partner, the first place my head would go immediately would be he's having an affair. 320 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,680 But being on the outside, even though an affair is still on my list of possibilities, 321 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,560 I don't think affair is the only logical answer. My other logical conclusion isn't very pretty 322 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,640 either though. But it's happened that people are fantasizing about someone else. So she may 323 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,560 just have the hots for this dude and thinking of him gets her going and she was so in her own 324 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,200 head picturing him that she got lost in her own moment and it slipped out. For me, this option 325 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,520 would still be grounds for me to take a step back and question a lot. Even thinking of my partner 326 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,480 fantasizing about a friend while having sex with me makes me want to throw up. So I 100% can understand 327 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,960 why this has messed you up so bad. I don't think any response is going to make you feel better. 328 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,360 That happened and that's going to be a hard one to forget. Man, I wish I had advice, but knowing 329 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,360 how it would make me feel, I got nothing. I believe will make you feel any better. I would 330 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,840 absolutely check your phone records to see if they're communicating more than they should be. 331 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:20,000 That would definitely be my first move. That was great advice. Yes. Update. Oh my gosh. Eight 332 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,800 days later. Shit. Thanks to everyone who reached out. I couldn't reply to everything, but the 333 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,520 outside perspective helps. A general consensus was that my wife and I's issues should be 334 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,600 tackled in therapy. I knew that's what I should have done, but I delayed. I was too embarrassed. 335 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,800 The thought of bringing up what happened in counseling made it worse, but I knew it needed 336 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,840 to be done. My wife didn't initially take kindly to it. She was defensive and accused me of throwing 337 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,240 her under the bus. No, I cannot stand that. I disagreed. I wouldn't throw her under the bus 338 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,280 either. The truth is we never arranged topics in therapy beforehand. We argued over each other. 339 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,920 Our therapist came through as a referee. She called for a timeout for us to recollect and 340 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,320 to reflect on the objective of being, the objective of being working towards a solution, 341 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,280 not going at each other. We were able to actually talk once things cooled down. My wife was asked 342 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,600 how she would feel if the roles were reversed. She admitted if I said another woman's name while 343 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,320 we were having sex on our anniversary, she wouldn't have handled it well at all. She apologized for 344 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,320 downplaying my feelings while I appreciated her acknowledgement. I still thought she was, 345 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,720 she wasn't honest about why she said that guy's name. So I pressed. She said she didn't want to 346 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,520 hurt me more than she already did. I told her she was, she was hurting me by lying. She confessed 347 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,560 that during a stint where we weren't having sex, she had engaged in fantasies to satisfy herself. 348 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,880 One of them was of our friend. I knew the stint she was talking about intimacy as a whole has 349 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,960 been a struggle, but there was a point where we were abstinent sexually. We weren't even sharing 350 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,240 a bed at the time. We'd argue then leave to separate rooms. Our son would share a bed with us. 351 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,720 I asked how long she's been fantasizing about him. She said off and on. He wasn't a constant 352 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,280 fantasy. It wasn't necessarily about him, but more about the taboo. She swore that the fantasies 353 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,720 meant nothing. They were just scenarios to get her there and nothing she would ever actually want. 354 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,120 It was tough, but I tried hearing her out instead of shutting down. Arguing wasn't getting us 355 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,440 anywhere either. I can't relate to her about this. She's always been enough for me during good and 356 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,320 bad times. I was always focused on her during intimacy. I told her that while I knew our 357 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,200 marriage wasn't perfect, I thought we were getting to a better place and we were engaging in various 358 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,480 forms of intimacy again. She claimed she doesn't indulge the fantasies anymore. I called bull because 359 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,920 she just did that on her anniversary of all days. She insisted his name was only a slip of the tongue 360 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,160 because she was replying to his texts in a group thread that day. She said she was consumed with 361 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,400 what I was doing to her and in the heat of the moment his name slipped out. When I asked why 362 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,040 she didn't tell me all of this after the incident, she said she felt guilty and afraid for our marriage. 363 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,720 She said our marriage was already in a state of recovery and she didn't want to blow everything 364 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,120 up over a stupid mistake. She kept saying she doesn't want him or anyone else. She only wants to be 365 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,200 with me and that's the whole reason why she's fighting for our marriage. The session was a lot. 366 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,920 I was mostly quiet after she finished. She asked me to please say something but all I could say 367 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,040 was I needed some time. I'm still sorting through how I feel. I believe she was more truthful but 368 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,440 it's difficult nor do I see things between her and our friend the same. I would like to work on my 369 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,600 marriage. My wife and our son mean the world to me. I want the best solution for everyone involved. 370 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,480 Thank you again to everyone. I appreciate the support. That is literally just a tiny bit more 371 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:26,160 of the truth but it's not the full truth. She for sure banged him. One of the comments called it 372 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,440 trickle truth. Yeah exactly. Okay guess what bro keep pushing and guess what you're going to find 373 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,920 out more. She's just giving you little by little until she like it's like they realize they can't 374 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,040 keep up with these little lies because the person's not believing them and then all of a sudden it's 375 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,400 just the cracks gonna break and then you're gonna fall through and drown. Oh she's talking 376 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,960 the truth. And so in your mind you think the truth is that she's been getting smoked by this dude. 377 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,240 100% started as an emotional affair and then it started to be all like sexting and sexual crap and 378 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,360 then boom they've banged. I would I would actually really love to know people's perspectives on this 379 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,840 one because I don't know. Really. I don't know if she could have been actually banging the other 380 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,960 dude or if she could just be that lost in the sauce in her mind. Comment her one. I think the 381 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,600 next thing you need to do is schedule another therapy session and discuss tools for rebuilding 382 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,960 trust. At this point you bring up your trust was shook because she kept trickle truthing 383 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,760 and how can you know she isn't hiding more from you. That you don't want to distrust her but you 384 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,960 don't know how to rebuild. Allow me to be blunt about some uncomfortable truths. Everyone fantasizes. 385 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,840 It is if and how we act on our fantasies and if we allow our fantasies to impact our real life 386 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,600 that matters. Keep your focus on her behavior not her fantasies. Trust is similar to reputation 387 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,560 and that once it is broken it is hard to rebuild but it can be rebuilt. Trust is always a leap of 388 00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,000 faith. It is built on little acts of consistent reliable behavior but at its heart it is a leap 389 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,720 of faith. The little voices in your head OP the one's going but what if she is secretly in love 390 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:10,320 with a friend but what if she thinks he is sexier than me etc. Yes those voices nothing your wife 391 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,880 can say or do will be able to silence those voices. That is a battle for you and you alone. 392 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,480 You need to figure out how to self suit those voices. That being said it's there isn't there's 393 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,840 absolutely a world where it's just in her head. I just have to say that there's absolutely a way 394 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:33,280 that she is that lost in the sauce and she doesn't have to have banged him. Sorry. There's no way. 395 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,360 Yes there is. No there's not. My brother-in-law confessed feelings for me after I went wedding 396 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,880 dress shopping with his fiance. This just happened today and I'm using a throwaway because I promote 397 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,240 my small business on my main and I want to be anonymous with this. Okay I'm pretty overwhelmed 398 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:54,240 so I'll start with some background. I have been with my husband for five years we've been married 399 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,160 for two. Since early on in the relationship I've been great friends with his older brother 400 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,640 partially because I always wanted one. When he started dating a girl about two years ago I went 401 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,040 out of my way to make sure she knew she had a friend in me if she wanted since we're the only 402 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,440 girls in the family we're great friends now and since they got engaged three months ago I had been 403 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,360 helping with wedding planning and was asked to be a bridesmaid. We went dress shopping today and had 404 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,160 a blast. We went to brunch had some mimosas found the dress and went back to their house to celebrate. 405 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,960 I ended up alone in the kitchen with my brother-in-law a bit after being there and he said he just had to 406 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,920 tell me something before it kept eating at him. I was a little buzzed and confused but was not at 407 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,720 all expecting him to say what he did. I think I've had feelings for you for a few years and I've never 408 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:40,000 been able to tell you and just needed to know if you ever felt the same. I completely froze and just 409 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,400 shook my head. I told him that no I have never thought about him in any way other than a friend 410 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,640 and a brother and I never would. Before he said anything else I bolted back to his fiance and the 411 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,800 other girls there and very discreetly told her I got my period and wasn't feeling well and would 412 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,120 have someone come get me and then come by soon for more wedding planning. She thought nothing of it 413 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120 and I called my best friend to come get me. She dropped me off at home my husband is working 414 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,120 right now and there's no question that I'm going to tell him as soon as he gets home but I just 415 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,400 have no idea where to go from there. Do I tell his fiance? Do I make him tell her? Do I leave it? 416 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,040 Do I have my husband talk to him? Has anyone ever had something like this happen or have any advice? 417 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,240 Anything is appreciated. It's always the older brother-in-law. Why? Why is that always our 418 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:26,480 Reddit stories? That's just the way it goes. In life it's the older brother. You gotta look out for them. 419 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:33,440 Watch them dudes. Watch those bros. Yeah I have a feeling there's more. There is an update. 420 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,840 Thanks to everyone who called my panicked mind after my original post. I didn't want to tell my 421 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,320 husband we need to talk while he was still at work and make him panic so having some reassurance from 422 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,400 here was really helpful. I also noticed a lot of people asking for an update so here is one that 423 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,120 even I was shocked by as I lived it. It's not exactly the earth shattering blow up most people 424 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,480 thought it would be. My husband came home and he immediately knew I had something on my mind. I 425 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,040 explained the whole thing and he was livid at his brother. Livid at his brother. Thankfully he gave me 426 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,440 a hug and I broke down crying from the stress. He assured me I did everything right and it wasn't 427 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,360 my fault. After that you went to call his brother and tell him that he knew what happened and wanted 428 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,560 to talk to him one on one. Well it turns out that his brother and fiance were already on their way to 429 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,360 our house to talk about it. As soon as the other girls left not long after me my brother-in-law 430 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,920 confessed everything to her. First she slapped him. Deserved. But after they talked and he promised her 431 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,080 that his feelings for her were genuine she said that he needed to apologize to me and his brother 432 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,200 and then they could go from there. Wow. So they came over and he and my husband went and talked 433 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,440 while I talked to this fiance. We both cried and talked for about an hour. I promised her I'd never 434 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,520 had any feelings for him and had no idea he'd ever had any for me. Apparently she caught him 435 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,320 gazing at me on a family vacation once. It thought maybe he had some attraction to me so while this 436 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,880 sucked she felt some relief that she wasn't crazy for thinking it. He admitted she was right and 437 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,880 thinks his feelings at one point were out of jealousy that his younger brother were further 438 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,040 in life than him and he attributed that to me in a way. This was new to him as the older brother 439 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,280 and they really hadn't compared each other much growing up just because they had vastly different 440 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,000 paths. It was apples to oranges but now there was some perceived competition on a similar playing 441 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,160 field. The feelings have faded but when she came home saying she found a dress he felt an urge to 442 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,720 come clean and he wished he had said it differently or work through it with some help before to 443 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:20,800 actually understand what the feelings were before making this a whole mess. I don't know about all 444 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,720 of that but I guess I could understand it with a more clear head. This all happened in one night 445 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:29,200 and he was visibly distressed over it so I'd find it hard to believe he could weave a whole story 446 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,440 like that so I'm inclined to believe him. Once my husband and his brother came back to the living 447 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,040 room my brother-in-law looked like a puppy who'd just gotten in trouble also looked a little roughed 448 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,520 up but I didn't question it. We all talked and he apologized to me for putting me in this position. 449 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,760 Where it landed their wedding is on hold privately while they figure out next steps. Thankfully there 450 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,240 was nothing booked and no dates sent out. We had gone weddings just shopping just to get an idea and 451 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,000 it was just luck that she fell in love with the dress. They are going to a couple's therapy to 452 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,280 decide if and how they can move past this. There is clear love between the two. Things will be tense 453 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,920 but I think he feels genuine remorse and my potential sister-in-law says she holds no ill will 454 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,320 against me and if they move forward she'd still love to have me as a bridesmaid if I'm willing. 455 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,840 My husband and his brother have some serious work to do in their relationship and my friendship 456 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,200 with my brother-in-law will never be the same again but we'll see what happens from there. 457 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,760 Oh my gosh. We've also agreed to keep this between the four of us but they will be honest 458 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,720 that they're doing some premarital counseling before setting dates or full-on planning. I saw a 459 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,360 lot of comments telling me to keep my mouth shut and no harm was done while I guess I can see your 460 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,440 point. I just couldn't imagine keeping something like this from my husband. Especially if it came 461 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,400 out later and you found an eye withheld it. Trust is huge in our partnership and even just a mission 462 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,400 feels like a betrayal of that. Sure I knew this could blow up if I let it out but it would be 463 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,480 my brother-in-law's fault not mine. He had all control over telling me what he did. Thanks to 464 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,720 everyone who helped me through that scary processing time alone. Oh my gosh. What a mess. 465 00:40:52,720 --> 00:41:00,160 Gosh. It's such a freaking- it's such a mess so fast. That is his sister-in-law and he's about to 466 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:08,960 get married and he's over here like I have feelings for you. And it's- it's so stupid. 467 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,920 What's crazy to me though is he's talking about- no well I just was feeling it because 468 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,800 I just see how awesome my brother and your guys' life is and I attribute that to you. 469 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:29,680 But honestly the way this- his fiance is sounding she sounds like a very calm peacemaker, 470 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,000 emotionally intelligent, very graceful, very giving- like forgiving. She's giving him a lot of 471 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,240 grace in this. Yeah and handling the situation like very objectively like not faulting 472 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,560 the sister-in-law at all. Like you could still be a bridesmaid at my wedding. 473 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,800 I don't know if I could do that. Well no I feel like a lot of people couldn't. 474 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,400 That says a lot. He's very lucky to have her. Yeah. So that's what was so like ironic to me. 475 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,560 I'm kind of like wait like do you not see the irony here? Like you actually have a catch. 476 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,960 Oh this guy's an idiot. It's an idiot. There's a comment by roaring doodle. I'd love to know 477 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,040 the subtle things that you did to him all these years. You never at all flirted with him in any 478 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,360 way. Bros feelings and confidence to shoot a shot came from somewhere. Oh my gosh. And I was like 479 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,600 okay that's a different spin. Different take. So like maybe there's something there right? Like 480 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,160 maybe all of a sudden he's just saying like hey I have feelings. So like now's the time if we're 481 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,360 gonna do it. It's gonna be now. This is what OP said. It wasn't like it was smooth talking question. 482 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,760 He stumbled through it and no I never flirted with him. I teased him in the same way the 483 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,320 entire family does. They're that kind of family and after about a year I joined in. The only thing 484 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,240 I did that the rest of the family didn't was drink with him more. Basically just because we're the 485 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:48,080 only two that like to do shots and we have the same liquor preference. I would never dream of 486 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,720 flirting with my partner's boyfriend at any point in the relationship. And I totally believe her 487 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:58,880 with that. I don't think there was anything there. Yeah it's like that was like the brother she was 488 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,600 wanted. Like it to her it was like that's my big bro. That's my brother. Right. It doesn't there 489 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,680 doesn't have to be. It's this whole thing happened to her. Yeah. Like to try to think that she would 490 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,280 be at fault in some way is asinine. There's an update too. I wanted to address a couple common 491 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,440 responses I've been seeing here and give another next day update. To everyone telling me not to 492 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,200 tell anyone or give them a mulligan that was never an option to me. My husband and I are a team and 493 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,280 we don't keep secrets only surprises. It's something we agreed on before getting married. If I didn't 494 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,600 tell him and it came out later it's as good as me lying to his face. To all the claims that I'd be 495 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,160 blowing up multiple families I'm not the one who confess feelings. He opened this can of worms and 496 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,720 is not my responsibility to keep this secret. This does blow up his relationships or his family. 497 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,720 That's all on him not me. There are a lot of other common themes in here but those two were 498 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,960 very prevalent and I wanted to dispel them for this. So for this small update my husband actually 499 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,640 called his brother today and asked if he wanted to go to one of their favorite bars to watch the 500 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,720 game together today. Something pretty common for them. My brother-in-law was shocked but agreed. 501 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,880 Shortly after his fiancee called me and asked if she could come over while they were gone. She was 502 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,920 honest and said it might be awkward but we would do this a lot and either do some DIY together get 503 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,640 a puzzle or watch movies together. She wanted to see if I'd be open to keeping this up as long as 504 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,520 we were both comfortable with it while they work their things out so our relationship doesn't deteriorate. 505 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,320 It meant the world to me and I said of course. All four of us agreed that they, brother-in-law and 506 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,200 fiancee would start seeing a couple's therapist ASAP and my brother-in-law would see one on his own 507 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,320 until they get a better grasp on what his feelings were are and their own plan. We won't get all 508 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,040 four of us together and brother-in-law and I will not be alone together. My potential sister-in-law is 509 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,680 one of the most level-headed people I've ever met and so kind-hearted. My brother-in-law used to have 510 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,240 a lot of walls up that she broke down pretty naturally and this is so out of character for him. 511 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,040 It's clear that he loves her and I truly don't even think and I truly don't think that even if I did 512 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,920 say yes he would not leave her to be with me. Not that it would have even been an option. I truly see 513 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,560 a road forward for them and all of us. We're all committed to finding the best outcome for everyone 514 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,480 involved. My marriage is solid and we have our marriage maintenance couples therapy appointment 515 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,960 coming up soon anyway so we'll check in with an outside opinion but I'm not worried. They're 516 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,520 going to a consult with the therapist at the same practice in just a couple of days. It obviously 517 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:17,280 won't be a quick and smooth fix as this was f'd up but I'm much more optimistic than many comments 518 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:23,600 here and wanted to share. Okay, Mike6409 said, future sister-in-law is pathetic for staying with 519 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,280 that man. All I'm gonna say. Oh Pete, I don't think it's pathetic to give something even an f'd up 520 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,600 situation a little extra time to decide on going forward. The way she is looking at it is that 521 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,000 she can leave and nobody would blame her and she wouldn't blame herself. She loves him and for 522 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,280 herself she wants to take a beat to more deeply understand the situation before she makes a 523 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,600 decision to stay or leave. She was planning a future for him and if she just leaves immediately 524 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,320 she will have a lot of inner turmoil to work through and what ifs. If she takes a few therapy 525 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,640 sessions and decides to leave she would feel more confident in her decision. That's her choice to 526 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,680 make. You may think it's pathetic but it's what she decided was best for her. I don't, yeah it's not 527 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,760 pathetic. It's just not the right word at all. Yeah. It's not pathetic. It's giving him a fair shake 528 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,920 and a being like that takes a lot of a lot of emotional intelligence to make a decision like 529 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,520 that. She very well may not end up with him. She's not cool with it. She's not like, yeah go ahead 530 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,000 try to bang your sister-in-law like this now she's saying. Giving him a chance to work through it 531 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,200 and obviously their relationship has to be there has to be evidence of it being really good 532 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:36,000 otherwise she would just dip. Yeah. Like it's not like she's just being blindly optimistic to what 533 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,880 what their relationship could be. Every relationship takes work. You have to just trust the fact that 534 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:47,200 she sees a reason to stay. Well, Chalker there's a final update and this is the last one. Let's go. 535 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:54,160 For some context I am 27F my husband is 28M, brother-in-law is 32M and his fiance is 29F. This 536 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,240 started as a throwaway account but now it's just an anonymous account and this will likely be my 537 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:02,560 last update. Since this happened we have talked and my brother-in-law explained some of his feelings 538 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,880 as he has understood so far thanks to a lot of introspection and therapy. The silver lining to 539 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,400 all of this is that he is spending so much needed time working through his feelings and coping 540 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,120 mechanisms. He group texted me and my husband asked if we could talk together. It was most likely 541 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,000 to talk to me but he didn't want there to be any gray area going forward. To sum it up he very 542 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,880 sincerely apologized to me for the position he put me in and to both of us for the betrayal of our 543 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,040 relationships. After a couple therapy sessions talking through his root feelings he realized 544 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,600 how terrified of change he was even when it was good and frankly his fear of a failed marriage. 545 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,000 I don't believe this. I'm sorry. Couple therapy sessions? Chalker I was just scared of marriage 546 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:46,000 so I wanted a banger wife brother. He was older and understood so much more of his parents' divorce 547 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,760 than my husband and he didn't realize how much that impacted him because he had pushed it down so 548 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,240 deep. My husband and I met before my brother-in-law met his fiance and in the early days he had an 549 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,000 attraction to me but he pushed his feelings away because obviously I was with his brother. 550 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,600 When he found his fiance he truly fell in love with her and we all knew it was by it by the way 551 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,240 he acted. I mean this guy is usually stubborn and stubborn but he just melted for her. He changed 552 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,480 so many habits for the better for her sake and for his future. When we went out dress shopping 553 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,960 and came back a little tipsy and excited she just gushed to him about wedding details and ideas and 554 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,440 he got overwhelmed. So we did a couple shots not saying it was a good choice and when I came out 555 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,400 as a person he had to come he had come to for comfort or advice on more than one occasion he 556 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,000 just exploded and said what he said. He had so many thoughts running through his head and I can't 557 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,320 say I'm not mad at him for what happened. When I got engaged no matter how much I love my husband 558 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,040 out grand marriage is not I have to admit I had a few late night musings about what life would be 559 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,200 like married because it should not be taken lightly. He was so genuine in his apology and 560 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,680 shamed of his thoughts and actions he was damn near in tears boohoo. When his brother hugged him 561 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,920 he lost it. I gave him a hug as well and he couldn't stop thanking us for not just telling him to f 562 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,040 off. That's sweet. His fiance joined us after our talk and she said that while she's still struggling 563 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,400 with trusting him and they aren't going to get married in the same timeline they were planning 564 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,560 she's not leaving him as long as he continues to work on his feelings and unpacks his emotions 565 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,880 around marriage. They go to couples therapy and both go individually as one. I think we all see 566 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,880 a road forward knowing it will not be easy. In my past post there were so many people thought my 567 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,280 brother-in-law was making it up to get out of it and he would have thrown away his relationship for 568 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,440 me. Call me crazy or naive but I don't see it that way and nobody else involved us either. We 569 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,360 addressed the possibility and dismissed it. I appreciate the level of care people have shown 570 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,120 for me and my future sister-in-law and we will continue to show care for her and my brother-in-law 571 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:37,920 as they navigate this together. Cut the ties. Don't get married please. I don't think you should. 572 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,000 I don't think I don't like this guy's character and she deserves better. He's doing a lot of 573 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,960 emotional work now. He's done a couple sessions. Oh but the fact is that he's already been able 574 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,920 to put some big pieces together. That one I knew that was going to be one that piece together. 575 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,760 I'm overwhelmed by the wedding. I'm going to just go and see if I can bring my sister-in-law. 576 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:10,560 It's like that is not being overwhelmed by a wedding. That is you for crappy and you shouldn't 577 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,800 get married. People don't understand how much emotions affect people. Yeah. If you're not 578 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,800 privy to what's going on inside, if you're not actually doing the work to be aware of your 579 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,320 feelings, then you can act in a manner that's not consistent with how you feel. That's a real thing 580 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,880 that happens and you can say that it doesn't. You can oppose it. It doesn't matter. Here's what I do 581 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,080 and don't like about this situation. I don't like the energy from OP if I'm being honest. I don't 582 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:44,160 like she gives me this main character energy that I just do not resonate with. I don't like that it 583 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:51,200 sounds like she feels like this is their whole situation. The situation entails the brother 584 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:58,960 and his fiance and what their relationship, where it's going to go going forward. Fringe is the 585 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,760 brother's relationship with the brother. But she has a relationship with the sister-in-law and their 586 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:11,520 family. They all get together. She is a part of this mess. It's very weird the way that she talks 587 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:18,880 about it. It sounds like it's the four of theirs problem and it's not. It's their issue that has 588 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:26,000 affected everyone. I can appreciate the fiance that still wants a relationship with OP. I think 589 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,720 that there's, that speaks volumes to her character. The fact that she's still working on things with 590 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:37,920 the brother-in-law is great. I respect. I just think that she is, she's leading by example here of 591 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:45,440 like, this is how you handle these adverse situations. She's not saying it's all is forgiven. You're 592 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,680 fine saying let's work through this and like what we have up to this point, I don't want to just throw 593 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,200 it away. And so I respect that. Who's to say what happens five or 10 years down the road? Maybe the 594 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:03,840 guy's just a piece of garbage. But if he's not and he made a mistake and alcohol was involved 595 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:10,480 and and divorce trauma is involved and living life just kind of shooting from the hip 596 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,720 is one thing. That's kind of defense mechanisms is how a lot of people operate. 597 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,840 But you reach a certain point where you have to start going inward and looking and sorting. 598 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,680 Like it can be daunting and overwhelming. I just respect the fiance a ton for sticking with him 599 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,320 and being willing to help him work through some of that stuff. Yeah. Even if they do end up going 600 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,600 their separate ways, like that this guy's making way more progress because of his environment and 601 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:42,240 the way people are treating him and like good good for him sorted out. That's a big effort. That was 602 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,200 a big mistake that he made. Yeah. Who knows who knows what's going to happen from there. Yeah, 603 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,240 this is this episode was a little bit longer. But when you talk about spilling the beans, 604 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:59,440 when you talk about for loose lips, sinking ships, some ships are partially sunk. We don't know. 605 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,880 We don't know if they're going to go fully down. Some of these stories we may have to revisit in 606 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,720 future episodes. Yes. But these are all over Reddit. You guys, if you search some of the 607 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:13,440 keywords, you can go and check them out yourself, read the comments, get involved in the commentary, 608 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,800 do your thing. We appreciate the support. Appreciate you guys listening, tuning in. Please 609 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,840 share with your friends with your mom with your neighbor. Leave a leave a rate. Hit us with the 610 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,480 five star review. Well, thank you guys again for tuning in. 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