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And we're back.

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We're back, baby.

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We are very back.

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Come on now.

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We're way back.

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We're back.

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We're forward.

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We're here.

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We're present.

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We're ready.

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We're on an incline.

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Yeah.

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We're just doing something.

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Happy New Year.

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Guys, happy New Year.

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2025.

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This is our first episode in 2025.

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We are recording on January 1st, 2025.

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New Year's Day.

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Very first day.

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Very first day, baby.

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And this episode's going to be fun because we're going to take a look at the very worst

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human beings to exist in 2024.

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Hopefully they're not in this room.

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Ooh.

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Definitely not.

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That's my step, Joe.

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Just right here.

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Got him on the phone.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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On speed dial.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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So last week was fun.

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We had the Goodman fam come through.

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Dr. Goodman and Danielle Goodman.

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Good girl aesthetics.

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Follow all them.

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Yes.

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They'll join us again.

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They're family.

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All right.

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Well, this is going to be a fun episode.

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2024.

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Worst of 2024.

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Let's jump right in.

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Who wants to lead us off, you?

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Sure.

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Let's do it.

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Struggling to stay faithful and remain attracted to my wife, 28F, after we experienced a violent

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attack together.

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Not sure what to do.

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I can't talk to anyone about this for obvious reasons.

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I've even tried speaking to a therapist and they make me feel so low I haven't gone back

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since.

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My wife and I have been together for six years, married for three.

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We currently have a bundle of joy on the way and she's about five months along.

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My wife was always on the fence about kids, but I was adamant about wanting them.

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And now that it's becoming so real, I'm not sure anymore.

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I feel like I've just been on autopilot and after spending this whole week buying baby

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stuff, I need to figure it out.

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Last year, my wife and I were at the park relaxing like we do almost every weekend and

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someone yelled at us for speaking in my native language, Korean.

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My wife is trying to learn too because she's not Korean or Asian at all, but wants to only

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speak Korean at home to make sure our family is fully bilingual and they don't lose their

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culture.

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We were practicing out loud and sharing a snack and this guy just walks up to us out

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of nowhere with wild racist BS.

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He kicked our food and there was some arguing and while I was calling the police with my

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back turned, he tried to hit me with a pretty large rock.

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My wife jumped in between and ended up taking the full force of the hit, which literally

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busted her forehead open and knocked her out cold for almost a minute.

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I rushed my wife to the hospital and the guy ran off and was eventually caught by police

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a few weeks later.

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My wife needed 14 stitches right across her face and had two black eyes and blood in them.

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Her face was swollen beyond recognition for a few days too and when she fell, messed up

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an old knee injury so when she got out of the hospital the next day half her face was

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covered in bandages and she was limping.

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But she was still cracking jokes in the ER.

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After the bandages and stitches came out, she was told she would need to wait at least

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a year before having her scar surgically fixed or whatever treatments.

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But now that the year has almost passed, I've started handing out her scheduling appointments

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and such.

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This entire time I've been struggling with remaining attracted to her, despite it but

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didn't tell her, since I didn't want to be cruel.

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She's now saying she doesn't think she wants to get anything done because she wants to

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save the money for the baby.

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I've offered to pay for half of it and she still hasn't really looked into having it

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done.

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I've pushed her back, meeting my parents again because of this.

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They live outside of our country hence why they haven't met yet.

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I'm bringing her around my friends since it happened.

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Another part of me is also just sorta mad she even did it.

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I feel like half a man now and I've had to delete myself off dating apps before making

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a mistake.

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I've been channeling it all at the gym but every time I look at her I'm reminded of all

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those feelings.

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She hasn't changed a bit besides the scar.

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She's obviously handled it better than I did and somehow it's making me love her less.

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This plus the pregnancy.

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I don't even know what to do.

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I thought about asking for a hall pass but I know without a doubt she will leave me.

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I thought about taking care of my needs on the side so I could be the man she needs me

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to be but I know she will eventually find out and she will hate me and make my life

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hell or leave me a single father and I will never hear from her again.

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I just wish it had never happened but I really need some other perspective or opinion on

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this.

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Bruh.

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Wow.

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Oh my gosh.

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I was like oh and then he just starts so casually like oh I just like bore me.

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She's like a blow for you dude.

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Literally he could have been the freaking nasty face man.

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If only she knew she's like oh I would have let him just hit you upside the head.

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She sounds like a fantastic wife and she's pregnant with his child.

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She's literally pregnant and gotten the way of a rock hitting this dude.

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Right.

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Even if she wasn't pregnant it's like he's the worst.

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He's the worst.

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And I'm like I'm a little mad at her for getting in the way because that dude obviously had

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it coming.

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It gets just smoked.

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Wow.

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What a piece of work.

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Yes.

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And that poor woman.

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One thing didn't make sense.

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He said that it's been almost a year but she still wants to save the money for when the

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baby gets there and she was five months long when it happened.

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Maybe they had another baby.

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When she got clubbed by the stranger she was five months pregnant and then it's a year

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later he's like and now it's almost time for her to start looking at getting her face fixed

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but she says she still wants to save the money that she would spend on the baby.

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Do we know for sure that she was pregnant during the attack?

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She was for sure.

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Or is that just what she is now?

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She might maybe that's yeah maybe she wasn't pregnant when they got attacked.

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That makes more sense.

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Okay well that's a little bit better.

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I took it she was five months pregnant when she got when she just dove in front to save

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her husband.

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And he's been like on dating apps and stuff and then he'll just delete it when he gets

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too close to like actually.

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I've had to constrain my soul.

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I don't get why he says that he'll only pay for half of it.

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If he's married just and you want it done pay for the whole thing.

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So obviously it kind of seems like maybe he kind of doesn't want her to do it so that

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he can leave her.

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Or he's just like they have this split money thing even though they're married.

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I also think if you're not attracted to your wife you should try to find a way to either

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overcome that or maybe separate because that you know that'd be really hard but the way

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he's doing it is very terrible.

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Is like terrible.

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Yeah.

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Like you can't just cheat on them.

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Like you got to separate before you like are looking at other options.

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But he's even like poor me I can't do anything because he's saying he doesn't want to leave

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her.

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He doesn't want to be a single father.

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So it's like what he's like she will hate me and make my life hell or leave me a single

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father and I will never hear from her again.

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And he's saying I just wish it had never happened which is he wished she never got the scar.

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And there's a comment by just some kind of thing that says imagine being that badly repulsed

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by your partner because they got a scar defending you.

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I'm like that's so bad.

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It's terrible.

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Like how bad is this scar going to be like that it really just ruined her whole appearance.

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I'll tell you this.

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It sounds to me like it's just a scapegoat.

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Like he's probably the attraction issue probably goes way beyond the scar.

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And that's just he's just blaming it on that.

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Because this guy sounds like a piece of trash anyway.

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Yeah.

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And to go back to your timeline you were kind of questioning.

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P.M. me fancy beer said but five months ago in parentheses seven months post attack she

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was attractive enough to make a baby with dot dot dot dot.

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So it's like okay.

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So now you're not it.

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So I think it has more to do with like she's pregnant and big and he probably is not she

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her body's changing and maybe she's not filling it in the bedroom and like so he's being all

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like yeah yeah I don't know.

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There's probably a lot of factors.

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There's probably so much.

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Just that.

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Yeah.

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But I get where Joe's coming from like it is kind of his like okay have a good escape

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code.

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Yeah.

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Like I'll just I'll just yeah I'll just blame this whole experience.

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He's just a terrible person and wants to cheat.

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That is going to be tough to beat in terms of stories.

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That guy is a piece of work.

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That was good.

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Mine's pretty good.

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That was good.

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Love it.

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That was great.

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Thank you.

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That could that could be an AI find though.

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All right.

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That's kind of what I was thinking with the whole timeline thing.

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That got straightened out.

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It's from am I the devil.

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I'm just going to plug this now.

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I could not decide between two stories.

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So I'm giving you guys two this week.

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Well it's just I just had to time for everything.

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I just had to I'm going to I'm going to do the slightly longer one now.

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The shorter one's going to be later.

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This was three days ago.

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So almost into 2025.

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Dang.

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Am I overreacting after I found out my boyfriend's online friend group I became part of two

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years ago has been just him the whole time.

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Oh no.

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That's weird.

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So I'll read the story and I'm going to read their text conversation.

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That's how this sub works.

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It's okay.

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Yeah.

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It's crazy.

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I guess it should have been less oblivious but since a little before we started dating

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in 2022 I was added to my boyfriend's three person Instagram group chat with what he explained

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were some of his closest online friends.

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The two other accounts seemed like real people because they had real followers and comments

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on their posts and drastically different aesthetics slash looks to them.

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We eventually made a discord server for us and that alone was convincing enough since

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multiple times we'd all be active at the same time.

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We never voice chatted but I used to never voice chat either so I didn't think twice.

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The group got closer though as more and more time passed since I was first added to their

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group chat.

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In the last month we got together and planned a research trip to Hawaii for August.

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In parentheses we live on the east coast of the US and we booked everything.

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So imagine my surprise when I'm over at his house tonight and his computer is open and

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I just want to log into my Google Docs when I accidentally stumble across first of all

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follower bot sites and also him logged in and chatting with me as one of the individuals

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I thought I'd become close with.

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I just got this sinking feeling.

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I didn't jump to the idea that they could be fake either.

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I was like maybe he just has their log in since they're all like so close and is way

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too interested in their messages.

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But then I noticed their only chats were the group chats and the server and the real kicker

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was the email address it was signed up under was his backup email with his full name.

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I quite literally snooped until he got out of the shower and caught me which I'm not

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saying was right of me but I couldn't help myself.

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During my snooping I gradually became devastatingly confident he wasn't behind just one but both

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accounts.

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I've never seen his face so red and he just absolutely panicked and started shouting at

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me to get out of his business.

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I couldn't even form the right words to say to him.

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In the end I just walked out of his apartment sobbing.

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It's very early in the morning I get that but this screenshot is what he has to say

255
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and I'm starting to feel crazy.

256
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Am I overreacting about my discovery?

257
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So this is her.

258
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She says I just want to know why.

259
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When it finally came time for the Hawaii trip how are you going to explain that?

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What were you thinking?

261
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He says you know something I've noticed about you?

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You can never just be calm and there always has to be an issue.

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I know you were raised in a volatile environment and still have to relearn a lot about healthy

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relationship dynamics but it's like you thrive on chaos only.

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And we were going to see Wicked tonight.

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I guess there that goes.

267
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Oh you cancelled our movie date.

268
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And she says you can't be serious.

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I deserve answers and I'm honestly so creeped out.

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Basically half of my life for the past two years has been a complete and total lie and

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you were behind all of it.

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He says and this is the end of the thread that we have.

273
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Okay don't be dramatic.

274
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You know this isn't a big deal.

275
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You're just getting to harp on this and make a bigger issue.

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That's crazy.

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What a psycho.

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Like that is the biggest narcissist.

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That is like.

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Dude that's creepy.

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Like what was she doing?

282
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But what's the point?

283
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Yeah like what did he get out of that?

284
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He wanted her to maybe emotionally cheat on?

285
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Like see if she would cheat on him.

286
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But for two years?

287
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Literally what is he getting out of that?

288
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Is it like some weird kink that he's just like.

289
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Yeah he's a catfish guy for sure.

290
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He gets a adrenaline rush out of him.

291
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Imagine what other weird stuff he's doing on the internet.

292
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Yeah exactly I was thinking that.

293
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Like I wonder if he has any other catfish girlfriends.

294
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I don't even know.

295
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Like literally crazy.

296
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Like did she break up with him?

297
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So this is the most frustrating part.

298
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This is three days ago.

299
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So we may be able to revisit this but it's literally like everyone is just like.

300
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Everyone's just like leave this is crazy.

301
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Like all this different stuff.

302
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Showing up to Hawaii you're like what's up?

303
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Yeah.

304
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Yeah like.

305
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Jose it's just you.

306
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Hey what's up dude.

307
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Oh yeah they're like yeah they both know showed us.

308
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That's crazy.

309
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I mean like I booked their flights for them too.

310
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I thought I was being nice but like they're not even here.

311
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And we would probably still buy a ticket for these fake people.

312
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He did.

313
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He did.

314
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No he didn't.

315
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To a client that's what they were saying is that they booked I mean at least they had

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everything planned.

317
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We don't know that he did.

318
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That would be like actually insane if he spent money.

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Bro I'll be your friend.

320
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Yeah like this poor girl.

321
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I can't even fathom what this guy was trying to accomplish with this.

322
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And they were on a discord server where apparently you can see who's online or not.

323
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And she said that I never thought more about this because we were all online at the same

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time.

325
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So this dude's like what multiple devices like.

326
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Yeah.

327
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,600
Like what is he.

328
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,600
He's like.

329
00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,600
Yeah really though.

330
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Phone iPad computer.

331
00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,240
But if they're together it's that's just crazy.

332
00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,480
It's just a different level of like.

333
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,360
That's what you're doing bro.

334
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,120
Well the fact that like the motive is not.

335
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,120
We don't know.

336
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,760
It's that we don't know the motive.

337
00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,320
It is got to be something so dark so creepy and weird that like it's got to be something

338
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080
bad that he like wants it.

339
00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,920
What if he was planning the trip and he was like going to kill her or do something to

340
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her and blame the two users.

341
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He's a imaginary friend.

342
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,480
Yeah.

343
00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,880
The guy that it's just like roots back to his burner email address.

344
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,600
Which he's probably an idiot but like someone that does that is already an idiot.

345
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,600
No yeah that guy's sketch.

346
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,600
Yeah.

347
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,880
Like where were there any other red flags.

348
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,320
I mean if you're going to die but it's nice it might be in Hawaii.

349
00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,360
Yeah murder me in Hawaii any day of the week.

350
00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,720
Oh my gosh.

351
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,440
Not like not immediately but like.

352
00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,440
If I get to.

353
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Let me live there for a week.

354
00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,000
If I get to pick one of the 50 stays.

355
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It's a good one.

356
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000
Yeah.

357
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000
That's poor girl.

358
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000
He's so gaslighting.

359
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000
Yeah he's just like.

360
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,440
Like you know the thing about you is.

361
00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,440
I'm like.

362
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,440
Yeah.

363
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,440
The thing about me.

364
00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,440
You want.

365
00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,440
Me.

366
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,520
The thing about you.

367
00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,520
Well here's the problem.

368
00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,400
We were going to see Wicked tonight so.

369
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,400
Like I'm pissed.

370
00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,400
Yeah I'm pissed about that.

371
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,400
Yeah.

372
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,400
No I have to go by myself.

373
00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,400
Because I don't want to.

374
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,280
I thought the four tickets already.

375
00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,280
I literally like we already have our seats chosen.

376
00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,280
Like.

377
00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,880
And you're sitting next to Bobby.

378
00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,880
Wait what did he say.

379
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,880
We already.

380
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,040
Guess guess guess guess that's out the window.

381
00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,040
Well fine.

382
00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,920
Have you got another thing Wicked with you now.

383
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,920
No.

384
00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,640
Why don't you hit up like Tom and Derek that are on the forum.

385
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,200
Yeah like yes are these friends men women.

386
00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,200
So that was the other thing.

387
00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,000
So she was getting close to one of the ones like it had to have been a woman.

388
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,160
That was my thought was that it said like I over the last six months or whatever like

389
00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,480
I've been getting closer with this one.

390
00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,480
It's like.

391
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,880
Why did she say a girl though.

392
00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,120
Then that's the other thing is like maybe maybe it was like this whole like major insecurity

393
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,000
thing where he was like trying to test her limits of like.

394
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000
Yeah.

395
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000
Where she would go.

396
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000
Yeah.

397
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000
Like kind of knew what buttons to press.

398
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,880
I mean obviously there's there's like seeds of trauma therapies type stuff in here because

399
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,040
he was like yeah all your childhood trauma like you had a rough upbringing.

400
00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,040
I don't know.

401
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,600
I wish we would have found out why he actually did it though rather than just flip it on

402
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,320
her because I would love to know like why would he do that.

403
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640
No there's there's no.

404
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,720
What could anyone possibly say.

405
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,640
I don't think I would want to make make up friends and like text myself through.

406
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,640
No it sounds terrible.

407
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,120
Yeah because you're normal.

408
00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,120
Yeah.

409
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,680
He's not normal.

410
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:07,720
Should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 F if she's giving me

411
00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,240
all the signs.

412
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,240
Yeah.

413
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,000
It's a big no.

414
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000
I'm on mobile.

415
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,560
So sorry for the formatting.

416
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,960
This is a throwaway account.

417
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,400
I will call my brother C and my brother's girlfriend S. This is so messy.

418
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,680
I am pretty close with my brother but I honestly feel he doesn't deserve his girlfriend.

419
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,720
So my brother and his girlfriend have come to our grandma's for a week they have off.

420
00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,320
They have been here for five days.

421
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,800
They won't leave for three more and it's killing me.

422
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,760
My little brother is not the best looking in the family.

423
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,480
He's just not since he started seeing S. He's gone to the gym and bulked up a bit and changed

424
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,400
his hair and his eating habits.

425
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,360
Not because she forced him she loved him even when he was chubby.

426
00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,880
He said he wanted to start working out and eating better to get into the same level of

427
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,320
attractiveness as her.

428
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,720
My best friend and I she is a girl and I both agreed beforehand that she is very good looking

429
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,440
just from her pictures with my brother on social media and stuff.

430
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,300
S&C came to visit my grandmother and I was there because I'm currently living with her.

431
00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:09,760
Not only is she ridiculously hot.

432
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,480
She's funny and smart too.

433
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,400
She's pre-med and is taking a lot of hard classes that S&C says she's breezing through.

434
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,600
She's the world's easiest person to talk to.

435
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,200
The first night she came to visit she was quiet as this was the first time meeting extended

436
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,520
family for her.

437
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,520
The next day S&C had a mind grain and she wanted to stay home with him and take care

438
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,440
of him but I convinced her to go to the mall with me and S&C encouraged her to.

439
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,480
We spent the day at the mall together.

440
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,800
We played with puppies at a store and shopped a bit and got lunch.

441
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,320
I don't think I've ever gotten along with someone as well as I've gone along with

442
00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,560
S. She is beautiful, witty and basically my ideal partner.

443
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,720
I have quickly developed strong feelings for her.

444
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,840
Okay now this is where it gets really messy.

445
00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:01,720
S&C was showing me some memes on his phone and accidentally swiped by a nude of hers.

446
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,800
He thought I wasn't looking at his phone but he did manage to see it.

447
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,960
I know this is really bad but when he got up to the go to the bathroom I unlocked his

448
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,840
phone and went to look at it.

449
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,280
I couldn't help myself I've already mentioned that I think she's hot so I won't go into

450
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,880
detail about how I felt about the picture because it's probably obvious I felt so guilty

451
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,880
about it.

452
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,880
After this thing I was gonna say that was not obvious.

453
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,400
He's like oh my gosh the devil's making me on his phone.

454
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400
I'm looking at his picture.

455
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400
I can't stop looking.

456
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,760
I feel so guilty.

457
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,360
After this incident I think people started noticing me becoming uncomfortable near her.

458
00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,160
My brother, my mom and my grandma asked me about it.

459
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,560
Eventually S asked me if she had done anything to offend me and I said no.

460
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,360
I came to my senses and stopped acting like a douche.

461
00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:52,040
I asked if she wanted to go to the grocery store with me.

462
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,040
She said sure.

463
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,000
I thought it would just be the two of us but C tagged along as well.

464
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,160
We went to the grocery store together, went back and ended up driving to the city in the

465
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,160
afternoon.

466
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,040
She wanted to give away anything that might identify me, which is an hour from where we

467
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,040
live.

468
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,560
C fell asleep in the car and again it was S and me talking.

469
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,880
She ended up climbing from the back seat to the front to talk to me.

470
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,960
We talked and joked the whole way into the city and I just knew something was there.

471
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,920
I did something stupid and I told her that I wished we'd met in high school.

472
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,240
And she replied that she thinks we would have been best friends.

473
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,240
Ouch.

474
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960
However once we reached the city she was back being lovey-dovey with C. It sucked because

475
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,120
I wanted to hold her hand so bad.

476
00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:38,560
I think they felt bad for me because yesterday was Valentine's Day and I don't have a girlfriend

477
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,080
so they didn't kiss or anything.

478
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,280
They just looked at each other like they're in love.

479
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,720
My questions are the following.

480
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,740
I know she can tell that we have a good connection.

481
00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:48,200
So should I go for it?

482
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,880
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.

483
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,520
What's the best way to do that?

484
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,520
Thanks.

485
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520
Oh my gosh.

486
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,520
Oh.

487
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,520
Yeah.

488
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,520
No.

489
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,200
That's my story.

490
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,200
That I would.

491
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,480
It is different if it is like a best friend because you can cut them out of your life

492
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,480
forever.

493
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,480
Right.

494
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,360
When it's a sibling there is nothing you can do at that point.

495
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:17,360
Like that is ruining families for the rest of time.

496
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,120
At least for at least 10 years.

497
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,160
Just to throw an arbitrary number on it.

498
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,040
Like if it's love, if it's real love you're talking 10 years, men.

499
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,040
Pretty bad.

500
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,040
Dude.

501
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,040
That's bad.

502
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,040
It's just scumbag.

503
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,040
He asked for advice.

504
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,040
What was the second question?

505
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,040
What should I do?

506
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,160
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.

507
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,320
What's the best way to do that?

508
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,320
All right.

509
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,320
So here's what you're going to do.

510
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,880
You're going to let everyone get out of your car.

511
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,160
You're going to drive to the tallest cliff you can find and you're just going to go right

512
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,160
off it.

513
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,160
That's all I got.

514
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,360
With a bear shoe?

515
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:54,360
No bear shoe?

516
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:55,360
Okay.

517
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,360
No prep.

518
00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:00,400
You're going to get out all the ways that you messed up in the time you have.

519
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,400
Pretty bad.

520
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600
That's bad.

521
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
She said we would have been best friends in high school.

522
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,440
So that's friend zoning immediately.

523
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,400
She did the right thing.

524
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,160
She probably is thinking nothing of it.

525
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,160
Yeah.

526
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,960
She's like, oh, she's giving me all the signs, bruh.

527
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480
She's just a good girl.

528
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,480
She's funny.

529
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,480
She just has a bunch of good qualities.

530
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560
She wants to get along with a brother or mom.

531
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,560
Brother or mom.

532
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,560
Yeah.

533
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,560
Right.

534
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,040
Like, he would be vibing with them.

535
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,120
Like, I would not think anything of it.

536
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,800
She makes me feel special.

537
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,720
Like, okay, so that's not her telling you.

538
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,840
I think you're a lot.

539
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,040
And I love that he's trying to say he's hotter than his brother.

540
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,320
Like, such older brother behavior.

541
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,320
Literally.

542
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,320
Literally.

543
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,320
It really is.

544
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,320
All right.

545
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,480
There's some whoop-de-doodle.

546
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,120
You're a creep.

547
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,200
That's the name.

548
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,800
You're a creep and need to back off.

549
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,320
Do not ever go look at someone's nudes without permission.

550
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,960
She's your brother's girlfriend.

551
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:05,000
She hasn't said anything about liking you as anything more than a friend.

552
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,160
I dare you to tell her and your brother that you went through his phone to find that nude

553
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,160
pic of her.

554
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,160
Did dare.

555
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,160
Double dog dare.

556
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,160
Triple dog dare you did.

557
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,160
That hillbilly is going off a cliff.

558
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,160
I totally forgot I got to freaking nude.

559
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,160
That was so out of line.

560
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,160
That sucks.

561
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:29,000
Like goes through the phone like I feel so violated and creeped out by the little brother.

562
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000
Older brother.

563
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Older brother.

564
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,440
I feel like makes it worse and like oh the little brother like oh he's just romanticizing

565
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720
this whole but like it's older.

566
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,720
Man.

567
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Yeah.

568
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,720
Like you know better.

569
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,720
How old is the older brother?

570
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,720
It's like 24.

571
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,040
23 and the 19th of the younger.

572
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,400
The two young the girl and the younger brother.

573
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,920
He's he's a lowlife loser and he's to find a girl on his own.

574
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,880
And what's funny is like this guy's dumb.

575
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,400
He's ugly little brother and dude you're living with your grandma.

576
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,400
I was gonna say.

577
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,400
Digging for your little brother's girlfriend's nudes.

578
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,400
You're disgusted.

579
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,400
You are trash.

580
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,400
You're trash.

581
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,600
Oh that's so gross and that girlfriend finds out.

582
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:17,120
I love he was like he said something about like I was super uncomfortable.

583
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:21,640
Like I was around and I was very not talking about super uncomfortable like when I was with

584
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,640
everyone.

585
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,200
It's like he's just dying inside like.

586
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,200
Right.

587
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,040
Nobody knows his pain.

588
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200
I've seen your nude and I'm in love with you and I think we should get married.

589
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280
He's known her for what five days at this point.

590
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,400
Literally bursting up the seams.

591
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Dude's a trip.

592
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840
He's a terrible brother.

593
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,640
There's another funny.

594
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,360
What signs exactly from what you have written she's just trying to be nice to her boyfriend's

595
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:46,360
brother.

596
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,880
Don't be a creep back off.

597
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,360
You're misinterpreting everything.

598
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,360
Yeah.

599
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:51,360
Amen.

600
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,360
Amen.

601
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:57,320
I like this girlfriend and I love it's just so sad like the younger brother has so much

602
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480
trust in the older brother like yeah go with him to the mall.

603
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Go ahead.

604
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Sorry I don't feel good honey.

605
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Like I don't want to keep you from having fun.

606
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,080
This guy seems like a gem.

607
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,960
He probably has the best personality.

608
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960
He's like wanting to like do better for his girlfriend.

609
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,960
Yes.

610
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,960
It's like so sweet.

611
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,320
He sounds amazing.

612
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,720
So that was the very first story.

613
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Now he went against everybody's advice about I haven't even read it yet.

614
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,280
He went against everybody's advice about not telling them and there's a whole another story

615
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,280
about how I think he did confess his love to her.

616
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040
So I need to find it again because I just screen shot of it.

617
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,040
I didn't save her anything.

618
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,040
I'm going to look right now.

619
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040
So we need to find it.

620
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Yeah just research the title.

621
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
Yeah what's the title of Alan.

622
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,280
And read like should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 if she's

623
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,640
giving me all the signs.

624
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,200
OK so we have an update.

625
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,520
We have the update of this story.

626
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,880
We have to we have to go with it.

627
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,440
It's doing such a douche.

628
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,440
OK.

629
00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,600
My brother is C and his girlfriend is S. So against Reddit and my better judgment I spoke

630
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,800
to my brother as you can imagine all hell broke loose.

631
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,360
The guilt was eating me up and I told him about the feelings I had for his girlfriend.

632
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,680
I also came clean about looking at her nudes and apologized.

633
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Wow.

634
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,880
This was about three years three hours ago.

635
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,400
My brother punched me in the face and busted my lip.

636
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,720
He went to our grandma and told her that he didn't feel comfortable with me in the house.

637
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,800
My poor grandma was so confused and C told her vaguely vaguely that I acted inappropriately

638
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320
with S and violated her boundaries.

639
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,080
He went into S's room and asked her to pack her things so they could leave and find a hotel

640
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,080
to stay in.

641
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,760
All I could hear was her saying what why what's wrong.

642
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,160
He took her and left to stay in Atlanta promising my grandma he'd call and explain when he

643
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,160
got there.

644
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,920
He just called her landline and they will be getting lunch tomorrow.

645
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,160
I received a text from S about a half hour ago.

646
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,680
I copy pasted it.

647
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,680
Honestly this is ridiculous that I even have to say this.

648
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960
You violated C's trust in my trust.

649
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,600
The pics weren't meant for your eyes.

650
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,200
I love your brother not you.

651
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,400
It's never going to happen.

652
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240
You've ruined any possible friendship we could have had.

653
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,840
I'm not angry but I can't forgive this and I believe you need therapy.

654
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,840
Good luck.

655
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,120
I hope you get the help you need.

656
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:19,800
I am sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door.

657
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,240
I'm sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door to ask what's wrong.

658
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Reddit what do I do.

659
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280
What are the steps to take to fix things with my brother.

660
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,640
You're not going to listen to us buddy.

661
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520
How do I apologize to S. What do I tell my poor grandmother.

662
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Thanks in advance.

663
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,120
I should have listened to your advice.

664
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,120
Wow.

665
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,120
That's pretty awesome.

666
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,120
What's wrong honey.

667
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,120
Grab a bat now.

668
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,120
No.

669
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,120
No.

670
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,120
She broke my heart.

671
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:48,120
Slide the cookies under the door.

672
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,120
I love that.

673
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,120
I'm sitting here bawling.

674
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,120
I'm sitting here bawling.

675
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,360
You guys don't even know how sad I am.

676
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:55,680
So I didn't listen and.

677
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,680
What do I do.

678
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,680
I got punched in the face.

679
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Update.

680
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,680
He hurt me.

681
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,680
She's gone.

682
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,680
I'm sad.

683
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,680
No bokeh.

684
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,960
No bokeh but think about her like she that's so violating.

685
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,520
She's like I know you for four days and you're just like checking me out.

686
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,000
She's still handling it like a champ.

687
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,120
She's like I'm not even mad at you.

688
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,760
I just think you're like a disappointing loser.

689
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Yeah.

690
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Go get therapy.

691
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Dude.

692
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,840
But honestly I'm so glad I thought it.

693
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,400
I thought there was a small small possibility of like she.

694
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400
Like it.

695
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,400
Was into it.

696
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,400
Was like it a little bit you know.

697
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,400
So I love this girl.

698
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,400
I love it.

699
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960
I'm like all for the little brother.

700
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,520
You're disgusting and you're she's seeing it for what it clearly is like you need help

701
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,520
bro.

702
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Okay but just to be devil's advocate the way this all played out was there even a way

703
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,280
for her to be like not giving those vibes like you think that she would message him

704
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,200
and be like hey just so you know like I'm really sorry this all blew up this way.

705
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,480
Like you get what I'm saying like if she was giving him a little bit more of a green light

706
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600
than we're saying she did.

707
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Is there a possibility.

708
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Like I feel like she's reacting the way that she has to no matter what I'm just and again

709
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,840
she sounds awesome.

710
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,560
She I'm sure she is all about the little brother but if she was like a little flirtier with

711
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,280
him or like was maybe just crossing a little bit of those blurred lines would we know that

712
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,600
from her response.

713
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:27,440
I think she would have thought a little more to not stay in a hotel you know like I think

714
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,920
the fact that she wants to distance and not see him anymore like like let's go stay in

715
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240
a hotel let's not see your brother anymore.

716
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,840
It's just such a start it's such a violating thing it's like yeah I think the answer just

717
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:45,080
shows clearly on that older brother's reaction to everything though because he is not saying

718
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,760
like I thought she was giving me vibes like I thought she said this she said this if there

719
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,160
was evidence to back up.

720
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
He knew he screwed up.

721
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:01,480
There's no question that he screwed up like yeah I don't think she crossed lines because

722
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,080
he would have been giving us every little thing like oh she like brushed my leg you

723
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,760
know like even if but like he was reading into stuff that wasn't there and so there

724
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,920
would be more in what he said because he's trying to convince us like oh she wants it

725
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,200
too you know so I feel like he would have been like but there was nothing there so it

726
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200
wasn't even like he couldn't even read into anything because there literally was nothing.

727
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,480
On the first post he did comment back just a little bit to some of those comments he

728
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,080
just said like because someone asked what were the signs exactly and he just said like when

729
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,640
we would talk sometimes she would like nudge it like nudge him or like like touch his arm

730
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,520
or something and that's but that was it that's all it was that's a that's like mannerism

731
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:56,360
so it's like some people are just more like that yeah yeah like if Joe says oh whoa think

732
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,640
you know like in the doctors and they hit your knee and you go like that yeah reflex test

733
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:07,040
I know that's what you're thinking of so this is from the subreddit entitled people it says

734
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:14,440
my mom stole my college fund to pay for my sister's wedding oh I 18m just found out my

735
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,480
mom drained the entire college fund my late dad left me to pay for my sister's wedding

736
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,760
and honeymoon my dad passed away when I was 10 and one of the last things he did before

737
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,160
he died was set up a savings account for my college he always told me how important my

738
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,920
education was to him and my mom promised that she would honor his wishes growing up I worked

739
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,880
hard in school because I knew I had that safety net I got into my dream school last week and

740
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,520
I told my mom I needed access to the account for enrollment fees she froze she kept dodging

741
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,760
the conversation and eventually I forced her to sit down and tell me what was going on

742
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,720
that's when she admitted she spent all the money over the last year to pay for my older

743
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,240
sister's extravagant wedding and her month long honeymoon in Europe when I asked her

744
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,000
why she said my sister deserved it because she'd gone through a rough divorce a few years

745
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,000
ago and this wedding was a fresh start I couldn't believe what I was hearing I asked her why

746
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,840
she didn't talk to me first and her excuse was you're young you'll have time to figure

747
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,440
it out I thought maybe my sister didn't know where the money came from but when I confronted

748
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,240
her she admitted that she knew the entire time her response it's not like I forced her

749
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,200
to do it mom wanted to help me now I have no way to afford college my mom's solution is

750
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,360
for me to just take out loans like everyone else but that's not the point my dad worked

751
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,040
hard and to set the money aside so I wouldn't have to worry about debt I feel completely

752
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,960
betrayed when I told some of my relatives about what happened my mom flipped out and

753
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,120
accused me of airing out family business to make her look bad she said I was being selfish

754
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,680
and that family helps family apparently I'm ruining the family by being upset but how

755
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,200
is it not selfish to take money meant for my education without asking me I don't even

756
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,000
know what to do now my mom says I should just get over it but I can't look at her or my

757
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:04,760
sister the same way anymore that mom sucks she's not a mom that's not a mom she's a

758
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:13,480
great mom for the divorce remarried daughter right yeah awesome mom oh I'm livid I know

759
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,640
that sucks you get into your dream school and just everything falls apart can you imagine

760
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,920
having a dream school I never had one okay wait this is okay this is just now reminding

761
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:33,880
me of that office episode where Michael Scott when he like talks for Scott or Scott's thoughts

762
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,480
yeah and he promises those promises these kids in like kindergarten that he would pay

763
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,600
for their college and then it gets to that point and he's like I can't he's like I hear

764
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,720
some bucks I think I'm sorry for the books or something he paid for one kid's books but

765
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,160
he didn't write I don't think you wrote the checks correctly it's like a thousand dollars

766
00:33:52,160 --> 00:34:01,640
and he's like over the whole time and he's like no like per semester and he's like I

767
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:12,960
thought I'd be a millionaire by this time in my life his dad passed away at 10 and like

768
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,240
he was so grateful and so excited for his dream school he knew he had the account hey mom

769
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:25,200
I'm ready I'm ready to get enrolled can I get it like hello I did all of this no honey

770
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,640
and that's probably like kind of like his connection with his dad a little bit yeah for sure you

771
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:35,880
know to like feel like that's like he's still being it together yeah that's that makes me

772
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,960
sad oh I'm so that mom sucks I know I'm not the fake you better be the fake cuz if you're

773
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:51,280
not I'm gonna cry that is horrible there is an update just like what he did or whatever

774
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,640
but says after my original post I confronted my mom again but she doubled down saying that

775
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,200
she did what was best for the family that my dad would have wanted it I couldn't argue

776
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,880
anymore so I reached out to my dad's side of the family they were furious and now are

777
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,280
helping me explore legal options as my aunt thinks my mom might have violated a trust

778
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,520
agreement by using the money for anything other than my education oh as for my sister

779
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,600
she admitted she knew where the money came from but claimed it wasn't her fault that

780
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,600
she didn't ask for it she offered to help pay for my college but I don't trust her to

781
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,680
follow through especially since she's still flaunting her dream wedding online now I'm

782
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,080
focused on scholarships part-time jobs and moving out as soon as I can while it hurts

783
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,480
I'm learning to rely on myself and my dad's side of the family who's been incredibly supportive

784
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,080
oh I literally have had the chills that whole story so sad it's so sad I'm trying to get

785
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:51,080
like multiple part-time jobs and oh he's a stud don't move out stay stay where you

786
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,920
can live for free everything I don't know I'd want to get the frick out too I would not

787
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:02,080
forgive my mom for that I know that yeah it's hard eat her food though oh like cuz what

788
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,360
sucks is like it's like they were like going down and like something bad was happening

789
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,240
and they had to spend the money yes because it was like a crisis she's going bankrupt

790
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:17,040
or something I have cancer yeah I have to pay like you know like some just something crazy

791
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,520
but like it's for something that does not matter no you don't even remember it's your

792
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,680
second marriage I don't know I don't remember mine and Marley's like there's a lot of things

793
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,280
I forgot yeah I'm glad our wedding was chill yeah you know yeah I don't know I just think

794
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,000
that's something that's not a necessity it's really well and it's your second one like

795
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,640
this one's probably not gonna last either girl sorry and if you're gonna want to go to here's

796
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,240
the thing it's your second marriage at this point you're a full-blown adult yeah you want

797
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:52,240
to go to Europe for a month you better be freaking paying for it hopefully the the daughter's

798
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,080
new husband is gonna be able to pay to put her in a home and all that stuff cuz cuz

799
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,560
OP is not gonna be taking care her let's go change your diapers yeah karma's coming for

800
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:08,120
her for sure story number two I couldn't leave this one alone this guy this came from relationship

801
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,840
advice but more recently it was on am I the devil quote manipulated unquote into cheating

802
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:22,760
on my wife I 28m was manipulated into cheating on my wife 28f how do we move forward through

803
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,120
our marriage hey reddit I'm going through a tough time in my marriage it all started

804
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,320
because recently I entered a depression my wife and I both have very demanding jobs recently

805
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,480
I had a new project that had me working longer hours and that is what started my depression

806
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,760
now going through my depression I started confiding in my coworker about how I was feeling

807
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,680
I thought I could trust her as a friend but she knew I was in a vulnerable state she took

808
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:53,560
advantage of my state and this led to an affair my wife found out and we are going

809
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,600
to counseling Monday but this month our marriage is on the ropes I've been trying to get her

810
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:07,840
to understand my depression I've been trying to get her to understand my depression and

811
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:22,440
how low my mental health was but she doesn't want to hear it she's the one to hear it I

812
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:30,400
was crying the next minute she was going to say it's not my fault oh it was so good

813
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:39,520
she could manage with me is that it that's the whole that's literally there's no update

814
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:46,880
I'm depressed yeah I mean needless to say he gets obliterated in the conference oh yeah

815
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:53,720
no kidding I hope so yeah this one's good ah yes the harlot coworker was secretly a

816
00:38:53,720 --> 00:39:00,360
witch who brainwashed OOP into having an affair it's all that home wreckers fault it's that's

817
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,320
the most embarrassing thing that this guy is like yeah I'm just I'm just so sad and like

818
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:15,160
she forced me this therapist when they go in this therapist is gonna be like okay so you're

819
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:23,200
you you did you did you you had sex with another person because you're sad and it's her fault

820
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:30,640
yeah okay perfect that makes perfect sense and she's like she's like wife if you want

821
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:38,880
to go ahead go through this door they'll help you but my wife made me so sad that I felt

822
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,800
like I had no other option but to go somewhere else so let's talk about the fact that you

823
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,040
have no other option what does that really mean yeah I don't know you ever tried to go

824
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,960
for a run yeah have you ever gotten some vitamin D okay last comment on this please please

825
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,640
please as someone who's dealt with depression for 20 years I've never once had the symptom

826
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:09,560
of checks notes cheating on my spouse yes that's wild like that's not a I hope she dips

827
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:16,600
I feel bad for people that are stuck in relationships with someone that's like all victim mentality

828
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,360
like it kind of sounds like she or she's like had a problem with him before though it's like

829
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,280
I don't want to hear it they just I don't know I'm sure there's been other things no

830
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,320
well yeah she's just like dude I don't have time you're a wet blanket dude I don't have

831
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,280
time to like coddle you while you're telling me that you just ruined my heart like I wonder

832
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,560
what what the co-workers thinking I wonder if she's heartbroken like do you think she

833
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,560
fell in love with the guy probably not yeah she's just a hoe it was just sex it was literally

834
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:54,280
just sex for her but he's like crying so she actually did take advantage of it she's like

835
00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:13,320
oh so you're feeling really sad right now oh yes I am sad whoa that's all it works you

836
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:25,000
can do that to me yeah you can touch me I'm sad tell me more wait you guys aren't ready

837
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:32,840
for this please please brace yourself I got depressed in my I don't think that's gonna

838
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,240
fly as an excuse OOP chose to have an affair depression doesn't make you do things the marriage

839
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:42,440
may well be over and it's all OOPs fall if that's what happens oh no he's like she's

840
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,040
totally trying to come up with anything to like get him off the hook yeah guys so who do we think

841
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:54,520
now that we've heard all the stories who do we feel like is the worst person of 2024 let's vote

842
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:03,160
mine which one well both of them okay well the the catfishing his girlfriend was pretty bad

843
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,800
because he instantly hit her with like childhood trauma like you're traumatized little kid you

844
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:15,640
don't even understand I think mine is the worst person of 2024 the wife literally protects him

845
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:23,640
she also did never wanted kids and he convinced her to do it and now he wants to cheat on her

846
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:30,360
and he's like feeling sorry for himself because he wants to do it so bad but if he does she'll leave

847
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:39,160
him yeah it's like what he's the worst yeah he is horrible yeah you win you are marley but yeah

848
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:45,720
marley's was really good too I think because I can see myself more I'm not that I can relate to this

849
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:53,720
but because I am married and I am the girl I feel like more upset about the husband with yours I'm

850
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:58,120
like my mom would never do that but you that mom is horrible right she's terrible love is more

851
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,280
important than money true I'll give you I'll give it to you pregnant yeah she's just like that she's

852
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,600
just a bullet she probably has no idea that he's thinking any of these things oh yeah she just

853
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:15,960
hasn't caught him yet all the dating apps no oh worst person of 2024 yeah and he's so casually

854
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:22,360
was just like yeah I'm like I'm even deleting like tinder like what did he say he was like yeah

855
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,400
yeah we're not getting this close to cheating like she's so lucky that I'm deleting it but before I

856
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:35,480
do some she's so ugly she took that bullet that was shaped like a rock for me but she's so ugly

857
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,160
that was fun 2024 was a year full of chaos full of freaks we found the best one this week so

858
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:51,720
let us know which one you think is the fake and the worst and the worst 2024 and the best reader of

859
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:57,000
stories just kidding don't make them feel bad I don't you know I don't even need to hear that so

860
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:04,760
just kidding guys well 2024 was fun thank you all for the support we're we're just gonna keep

861
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,960
making the content it's been it's been how long it's been five months six months yeah just just

862
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,160
plugging along we really appreciate all of you the podcast listeners the socials it's amazing

863
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,840
you guys we are so grateful last thing because we forgot to do it in the beginning the fake of last

864
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:30,680
week which was our ho ho hold my bear was drum roll please was why why are you pointing at me

865
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,880
because it was Santa oh it was it was Preston you guys remember Preston oh climbing on the roof

866
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:46,920
is Santa oh yes he was so glad yours was fake so weird he's so fake yeah it was it was fake

867
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Tanner knew right away shout out yeah he called you so fast on it that's all right he won't get us

868
00:44:52,120 --> 00:45:00,680
next time maybe all right love you guys happy new year see you next week see you on three one two three

869
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:23,160
grinsies love you guys see you next week bye one click no pretending

