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Welcome back to internet frenzy. We got a very special episode today. I'm seriously so excited. I've been looking forward to this only

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We have the famous Aunt Linda's son and daughter-in-law with us

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Let's go let's freaking go brownies aunt Linda

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That's my mother

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Oh

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I was not there

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Would have been a party wasn't that oh, yeah, that was a fake one. So yeah, absolutely

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No, not his actual mom she she wouldn't she would also shoot

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You know the best thing about that story was the family union was going on

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Wow, we were doing when I were doing it

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Hold up. Is that Linda Linda?

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Are you lit AF right now at the B13?

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Stoke to have you guys the theme for this week is

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Manipulation at its finest so all four of our stories are gonna be about manipulation in some form

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See if you can spot the fake and we're gonna jump right in the title is manipulative and selfish family member

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I want to get everyone's take on this because I kind of don't know what to do and no one else that I talked to you

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Knows how to go about life with this family member. Hello. Well, so my brother will call him Jake

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Decided to plan a family trip five months in advance to go to New York to and visit family

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He got his tax returns. So of course he had to splurge

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He bought him his wife and seven children all tickets to a cruise then bought plane tickets to New York

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Was supposed to get an Airbnb but ran out of money

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So my mom agreed to let them stay in her two bedroom apartment by the city last minute

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My mom had gotten back from the cruise and caught COVID strep and another contagious illness

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She should have told him not to come but she tried telling him that she was sick and he got angry and started saying that she got sick on purpose

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She felt bad and let him stay anyway. She bought him and his family groceries air mattresses to sleep on and Pampers for their three-year-old son

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My mom discloses and I told him before he even got there

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Mommy does not want you smoking in the house if you want to smoke do it outside

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I'm an I'm an avid pothead and I'm telling him that he says he's okay

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I won't smoke he gets there and within two days

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My mom calls me with a laundry list of problems his kids pee on the couches blankets and pillows

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Because they were so glued to their electronics

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His wife doesn't take care of their kids nor teaches them how to take care of themselves

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His wife was forced to take her own daughter to urgent care because she had gotten her period and didn't know how to take care of herself

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Or tell anyone so she just didn't change or clean herself up and ended up getting a nasty infection. Oh shit now

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He himself had three people by him groceries all for him to say no one helped me and no one cared about me

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He smoked in the house and made the whole building's fire alarm go off and two fire trucks came to the building

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He then has the nerve to call my father who has type 2 diabetes and isn't doing well. He has his arm in his splint

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He's limping because of his diabetes and he's extremely skinny

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My brother is expecting my father to take care of him his wife his seven children and his dog

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Mind you my father is on social security and only gets $1,000 a month

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So my brother decides to call me to cry to me about how much of a victim he is and how he couldn't take the mistreatment

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So my dad apparently had to go and rescue him

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He called my dad to pick him up because he couldn't handle people telling him how irresponsible and disgusting he is and

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My dad's girlfriend is trying to take care of her mom who just recently got a dialysis

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Mind you my brother was around my mom and sister who were extremely sick with COVID strep and pink eye

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Tell me how you guys would go about this

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Because at this point I'm still upset and frustrated with my own brother. Oh

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They're just living in their own

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Oh, is there just poop everywhere? Oh

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What

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I don't know I couldn't really follow there was so much

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drop a nuke

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They did on the couches

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The kids are so addicted to electronics that they just pissed all over the couch like just like raging out on blippy

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It's probably yeah

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Parents are gonna be manipulated and he's calling her trying to manipulate her to get help and like feel bad for me

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Yeah, the like sounds just like

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Bro you

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Well, I think the youngest is three so three and up

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Seven of them so this dude's like mid-40s one of them's old enough to have her period right? Oh, yeah

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So there's a wide range how to period and Peter saw from the couch

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Yeah, oh 15 oh

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What's the next step here I feel like as the mom of this son

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The responsible thing to do is get those kids away from him or

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Call CPS like what yeah, I can't imagine what their house looks like like their home

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Well mom's home mom's two bedroom apartment in New York

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a couple and

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seven children we're gonna go to but then she got COVID and strep and

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I don't need her like those are your grandkids. I know that's your child, but those are your grandkids

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I feel like I would be so protective over them at that point. Well, she was like probably almost not if they're

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defecations

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But not saying she needs to take them in but I would definitely report

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the son

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Seven kids just to the orphanage well, they would learn manners they would learn normal human

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I wonder how much money they go through just like hospital bills

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Do they go to the hospital pick up their poop in their house? Oh, I don't

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This gave me anxiety

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Where's the wife the mom well it said she was she was there. Oh, yeah

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So there was a comment and said oh my goodness. I can't believe what I just read about your brother

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I'm sorry. I don't have any advice at this moment. This is just horrible your poor parents the poor kids

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They're being raised just like him and then like the author said I was hoping for advice

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I'm just not like even surprised at this point. He just gusted cuz this isn't just the first time

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He's done the same thing to me when I was pregnant

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Constantly picking fights with me getting people to gang up on me and take his side then demanding an apology from me and making other

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People tried to make me apologize had me taking care of his kids when I was pregnant with a broken arm

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My gosh, mind you but yet

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Tell us

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Well, it's pregnant, but yet he refused to physically help me with any basic activities

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I'm just so angry. He's doing the same thing over and over again, but then wants to play victim all the time

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And it's like my poor nephews, especially the oldest one takes on

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So much responsibility and discipline because my brother most definitely has his favorite

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Okay, but like low key this guy is being totally enabled to be an asshole. Yes

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The fact that no one from beginning with mom and dad up into like sister like yes

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He has sympathy for her, but like no one has been like turn around and walk away. Yes

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You're out of our lives. Yes, and we're calling CPS and rescuing your kids like those poor kids. Yeah, that's really sad

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Like the fact that mom pondered her daughter off to the urgent care

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You know what I mean to teach her about her period like YouTube. Yeah, I don't know

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You know we can do this together rather than get in the car and go to urgent care and like

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Hey, can you tell her I can imagine a stranger teaching me that like in a

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You know

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Like why saying

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No, um sister is writing the story

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Yes, yeah, yeah, and you know the guy did not ask her dad

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To like have a blessing to marry her

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You know that

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Like the guy that sucks at being a dad

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Didn't ask like his wife he didn't go to his father-in-law and ask like hey, can I marry your daughter?

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Oh, cuz father and I would have been like no

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They had seven kids by the time they were like 17

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Dude, that's so sad though. I feel for those kids

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That was that was very behold manipulative mess

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That is literal dudes like

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Just got off the phone with my mom

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I wanted to be a good son and remind her that I love her and I'm here for her if she needs me for anything

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She's recovering from COVID and is feeling a lot better

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We had a lovely short chat until she pulls her signature move out move of turning everything into a pity party about her for whatever

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Unreasonable and random reason she decides to pull out of her ass

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She brought up seven year old problems that we had previously already solved a long time ago

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She opened up old wounds and poured salt in them all to appease her need for constant reassurance and attention

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Even after I literally just finished giving her attention and reassurance

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Which was my entire point for calling in the first place and her mind

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She always needs to be the victim for one reason or another

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She's emotionally manipulative and she never takes responsibility for own faults and mistakes

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I dealt with her calmly reasonably and level headed as possible. It was hard

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I told her I disagree with your version of the story, but that's not relevant anymore

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She persisted ranting and venting and she finally changed the topic and we ended the phone call

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I need advice on how to deal with it in the following ways

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So as when I'm talking to her and she's behaving this way

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So what's an advice?

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Don't talk to her send a card. Oh

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That's so hard it's so hard to navigate because you feel like you see it clearly

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You understand like why they are the way they are in some sense. You give them like that grace

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But when it's affecting your mental health, it's really hard to be like I

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See what you're doing. This is not healthy. This is not acceptable. I'm not gonna be treated like this

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Like please see where I'm coming from

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But people like that they're so set in their ways and old

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And it's like how do you get them to see it clearly?

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if you know

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To anticipate that

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It is then your choice

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You're putting yourself in that position

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So if it's important to you to let your mom know that you love her write a card

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Yeah, it does suck though because it's like I want to talk to my you know, he wants to talk to his mom

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Yeah, but then but that so then he needs to do more work on his end. Yeah to build up that strength of the wall

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So it doesn't affect you. Yeah

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Yeah, well mom needs therapy first. Yes mom needs help you can't wait for mom to change

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No, but you can also tell mom

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I'm sure he has

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That's what I think that's just what in a frenzy is

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conclusion always is everybody in the freaking world needs therapy

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Honestly though actually

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But really therapy therapy for the win. Yes mom needs therapy bad kid needs therapy to protect his little heart and

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Unfortunately like there's really not much you can do to improve the situation because there's like the half that is the work

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That mom would have to do to improve it all you can really focus on is yourself and like what are you gonna expose yourself to?

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Yes, and stopping that like generational like

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What's the right word pattern?

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stop that with you it ends with you and

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You are not gonna do that to your kids or anyone for that matter any

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Relationship you have with someone

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It's so hard being friends with people that like always make it about themselves or they're always the victim

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So I know that's his mom and like he needs obviously you can choose different friends and things like that

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You can't really choose a different mom, but like you said

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You got to distance yourself from that like heartbreak a little bit

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So if that means writing a card rather than a phone call this guy sounds really intelligent

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So part of me even wonders that this is so much about how to talk to his mom as it is more like a call for just like

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Just some love on his end. I think he just needs some love

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It's sad

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How'd we go sad because I know

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Well, we can make it sadder with part B. You can tell this guy

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I love his mom. He loves her. He doesn't want to just like

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He's just yearning for this relationship

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But the reality is is it's not going to change at least not on the timeline that he probably wants

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Yep, and so I think he just needs a big hug and to write cards. Yeah some stationary and a big hug

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You want to hear part B now?

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What's your address?

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I need advice on how to deal with this part B when I'm left with my thoughts afterwards

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And the years of trauma. She's put me through being emotionally manipulative my whole life begin to plague my mind

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Plague his mind. You okay bud? Wow with a period at the end and then thank you period

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What are some comments and people like giving him love how many comments are there more than two

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Oh slick lol says I'm going

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Says I'm gonna keep it simple you get what you allow my parents have always played the victim card when I was growing up as I got older

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I stopped letting them. I just shut it down and and the conversation

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Maybe I'm a bad son. Maybe I'm not understanding, but I believe it serves no one to entertain that

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Valid slick

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And then description obvious 40 said my mom mom you gotta say it with an accent now

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MUM

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No, and then he goes on it

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No, I'm trying to find like a really good one

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Mommy description obvious 40 says

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My mom is emotionally

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Manipulative in every conversation I have my mom

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I have with her leads to her crying about how hard her life is and how everyone has been so mean to her

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I stopped having conversations with her. I haven't spoken to her in more than a year and she never met her third-grandchild

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Okay, see that's even more sad

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Yeah, if you completely block them out of your life, then it's like that serves no one

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Mom me mom

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Linda mummy

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No, but like at that point it's like

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Yes, your mom's manipulative some but like your grandkid needs to know grandma. Yeah, you know what I mean, but

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Unless she's that crazy. Okay. Sure. Maybe not. That's sad

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It's sad because the mom probably will never go to therapy he can though and

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He can stop that pattern now and it's he's very much aware of it, which is great. Yeah, yeah as far as point B goes I'd say

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Let those feelings exist. Don't rush out of them because that really does suck. Yeah, but life goes on and

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You can start a new yes, but better relationships find a new monster

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Anyone want to be my

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Before I start this story, I want to do a trigger warning. This is involving essay of a minor

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Here we go

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Am I the asshole for wanting to take my four-day old baby away from her dad without saying anything to him like leave when he's sleeping

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I just gave birth four days ago to a beautiful baby girl. I'm 29

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My husband's 30 right after we were discharged and got home three nights ago

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My husband got a call from his father and next thing I know my husband is losing it

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He's on the phone for like 45 minutes just flipping out crying snotting yelling. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong

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And he's ignoring me. He goes and gets himself a six-pack. He finally opens up to me about what's going on

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Apparently his brother. I think 27. I've only met him twice because he lives with their dad out of state

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He's just got arrested for kidnapping photos of minor children and having sexual relations with a young girl a week ago

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He wouldn't tell me how old she was kept dodging the question. He's been a mess since then

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He has barely held our daughter and when he does he's just crying. He's not helping me at all

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He's just completely shut down. I'm trying to be understanding

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But I don't know the depth of what's actually happening at this point because he's not really communicating with me

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Well, his mom showed up here at 8 a.m. This morning and woke us all up

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He apparently invited her here to talk about what they're going to do

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I kind of snapped at one point because I'm asking what's going on and they are straight up ignoring me

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So I snapped and said will someone tell me what the is going on right now

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And like his mom brought up the article of the arrest and it says minor girl aged 12 to 13

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She was 12 when it started and is 13 now

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So I kind of just clammed up because I'm in shock. I think well him and his mom start talking about getting this guy

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A good lawyer because apparently there was evidence in text

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Showing that they were actively in a relationship and she knew what she was doing

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They start searching for lawyers right then and there and they start making phone calls to get quotes

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Well, my husband just spoke to some lawyer for a free quote and gave the rundown on the situation to this guy and

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My husband was like blamed the girl basically

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Yeah, it's f'd up because this girl knew what she was f'ing doing

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So she just as much to blame here if not more

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I immediately felt sick to my stomach and just went to the bedroom with our daughter and kind of hit out

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I guess but him and his mom just came in here and asked me if I would pay for the lawyer

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Apparently the guy he was just on the phone with quoted him 12k

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I have 26k and fun money

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No real purpose, but I've been saving over the past year. They also said he will need to be bonded out

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I guess he was seen this morning at 9 a.m. Which is why my mother-in-law came over today and his bond is 10k

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100k technically, but I guess you only have to pay 10%

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I'm so confused. This is just what they were telling me. I think there was a longer process

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This is all happening so fast. I don't want to pay for a lawyer. I don't want to pay this guy's bond

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I don't want to be around my husband. He was blaming the girl

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I don't want to be around him when he's an emotional train wreck and having no help with our daughter because he's so f'd up in the head right now

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I don't know if I should wait it out and give him a chance to think more clearly before I jump ship and run for the hills

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But everything in my body right now is screaming at me to run. I told him I didn't want to pay for the lawyer or bond

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He said he understood and I think he's trying to guilt me because every time I leave a room

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He follows five minutes later

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Balling his eyes out on the phone with someone saying he's never going to see his brother again

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And trying to figure out how he's gonna come up with the money

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I need to figure something out. He needs that lawyer and I don't have the money

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Or taking tissues from the bathroom and standing in the living room where I am to blow his nose super loud

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It fills manipulative am I the asshole for wanting to run without telling him and take the baby?

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I don't know what to do here

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One

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Crazy my brother my poor perverted brother

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No, absolutely not. No. No, your brother is a dummy

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Brother needs to learn his lessons

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My thoughts exactly dumb ass your brother is an idiot. Yes, bro. Like this let him own his his shoes

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Yes, I think he did what he did and they found pictures evidence of your brother's an idiot. Sorry little girls

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I definitely think husband's having a mental breakdown because he's trying to process so

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Much at once. Yeah, and like your first call like if you're really close to your family member and I'm sure it's a shock

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Like your first and reactive love like okay, I'll help them back at the end of the day. No, let brother learn his lesson. Yes

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Disgusting human being yes, let him learn not in prison

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I'm really glad you brought that up because in the story like later on like the updates and stuff

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She does talk about the reason why he's so upset is because growing up

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He was physically abused and the brother just had to watch because he couldn't help like he was

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Defenseless he couldn't like save his little brother. So I feel like that plays a role in why he felt like he needs to save him

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That's heartbreaking. Yeah. Yeah, so

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I'm glad you did bring that up

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however

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There are consequences to your actions and those types of actions are

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Unexcuseable. Is that the right word? Yes. Yes

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And so deliberate and it's unacceptable and excusable. It's like you're talking about a 12 year old

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Like I'm just trying to put myself in this position. I can't relate at all

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Like in terms of like if my family member were to do something like this

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My reaction is like I am I would never in a million years give you bond money

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Like I'm sorry that this is like such a wild ass

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thing that

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You did like you are going to jail. You're gonna get everything that's coming to you. Yep, but I love you

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I would process in therapy later. Yeah. No, like yes

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Still let oh, maybe not as much that would really affect me deeply. I love you less

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To try to how would you let them around?

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Yeah, you can never let you can never allow them around your child your relationship with them is forever

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Let me ask this question. Yeah

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The younger brother the one that is the one that screwed up. He's the one that was physically abused

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Yes, that definitely probably that adds to this situation because obviously he's already

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Was it physically abused or sexually abused? Um, as far as this it was physically. Okay. Yeah, I mean, obviously that messes with you

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So he's got tons of issues. So like as an older brother

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You know, your your little brother deals with that and you know, that's a struggle that that kid has but it's like

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Like you said you made that choice regardless of what trauma you have. It's not okay. You have to deal with the consequence

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You and you can't it's she's 12 or 13 and you're trying to say she was down

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Could you I'm sorry about that part. He's like, oh it's her fault. Well, the mom was like, no, we have proof

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Yeah, what's the mom doing here? She said it was all right

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The mom fighting her son get abused. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. She already let him get abused. She didn't save me from that

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Maybe she did maybe she didn't we don't know that

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Massively, but let's say he let's say he did she did if she's like saying like trying to just

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I feel like it would make sense if this mom's trying to justify and excuse his actions

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It's probably coming from a lot of guilt within herself. So where is that guilt coming from? Yes?

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Because she didn't stand up

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I I really like that point a lot. Yep. That's a good point. It's tough. It's it is

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Legal it is it is against the law

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So there's that boundary that like it's an absolute no-go

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It's so far across that line. It's like, I don't know. I just have a hard time with any like

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Any thoughts around how it's

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Okay, or understandable if that

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Lot is that the for mental health and people who go through things that cause reactions and behaviors

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However, there comes a point where you are responsible for recognizing the shit you've been through

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Yes, and for healing from that and taking do making the right choices to not repeat those same behaviors and push them upon someone else

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Yes

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Think about some other helpful

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20-7. Yes, 27. You're old enough to have taken responsibility for what you've gone through

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Yes, twice or even twice. And know that that's not okay. And

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And then if you do it go to jail

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Think about the damage he just put on that little girl now

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That damage that trauma that little girl will never be the same. Yeah, it's unforgivable. Truly like

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Yeah, so it doesn't have a follow-up of like an update of that just yet

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But it does talk about like the some of the charges he's being charged with because

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There were some people being like there's no way this is real blah blah and she's like combating all of that

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Basically, some people are saying like do not give them any money and she's absolutely not. I'm not so one said a comment said

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This is just walk away Renee. Shout out

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Also, I have a brother that's a predator if they have solid evidence that the guy messed with a 12 year old

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He's going away for a while. Anyway, whether you pay for an attorney or not

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He might as well sit in a county lockup and get credit for time served

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Which county lockup is obviously much safer than being in person anyway. So and then

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Um, this person said so he took her across state lines

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Doesn't that make it a federal case? Yeah, I guess he's looking at like 29 years for all the charges combined because he brought her outside of

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state lines and everything and then the next person said so he took her across state lines doesn't that make it a federal case?

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The feds don't mess around put your money in a safety deposit box and get out of there now

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And then this person said yes, it makes it into federal sex trafficking of a minor

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The same charges that Matt gets. I don't know how to say his name gates handedly dodged somehow

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So like there is a possibility he could like get out of this if he gets a good lawyer

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and that's like

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Actually more common than like than what's talked about

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It's sad and screw the lawyers for wanting to defend people like that. I I have a hard time with that too. What defense lawyers?

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What they make a lot of money. That's why yeah, dude

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I actually was sorry side note

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If they're really good, they make a lot of money your average criminal defense attorney like doesn't make that good of money because criminals are not

347
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Rich, where's the money come from? You have to do a lot of cases

348
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Yeah, or unless you're really good. Like yeah very high right like oj simpson. Yeah

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All right, let's read. Let's get it. This one comes from true off my chest

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I faked being sick to stop my parents from divorcing

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I 24m had felt guilty about something for a long time when I was 14

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My parents were on the verge of divorce. They couldn't go a day without arguing and I overheard them talk about splitting up

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I'm an only child and truly could not comprehend them going separate ways

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I was terrified. So I tried to take matters into my own hands. I faked being sick

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I started telling them I had terrible headaches dizziness and weird pains behind my eyes

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Much to my surprise instead of yelling at each other. They were suddenly so focused on me

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They started running me to doctor's appointments and trying to figure out what was wrong

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The fights completely stopped. I felt terrible about lying, but I loved how they were finally getting along

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For two or three months. We bounced from doctor to doctor trying to figure out what was wrong with me

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I had blood tests scans you name it, but no one could find anything because wait for it

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There was nothing to find

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Every time a specialist couldn't figure out what was wrong. My parents got more stressed

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But it also seemed to bring them closer like they were a team again

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Honestly, it was exhausting, but I didn't know how to back out of it at that point

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Here's where it gets ridiculous

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My mom who was already a little bit into alternative medicine started buying various essential oils to address my symptoms

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She was convinced they were helping me heal. So I just played along as my parents relationship seemed to mend

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I started easing up on my sickness and well my parents never divorced

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But now my mom genuinely believes the essential oils were what cured me

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Flash forward 10 years I'm 24 now and my parents are still together, but my mom is obsessed with essential oils

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She's not just a fan. She's full on convinced they can fix everything got a cold eucalyptus stressed

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Lavender bad wi-fi probably needs some peppermint

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She even carries a pouch of them in her purse just in case anyone needs an oil based miracle

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I know it's kind of ridiculous, but I can't bring myself to tell her the truth

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Every time she goes on about how essential oils saved our family. I have to bite my tongue

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I definitely feel guilty about lying, but there are worse side effects than being stuck in a house

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It smells like a botanical garden 24 seven

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So maybe this is the wrong thread for this, but should I tell my parents or should I let my mom keep believing in her doterra fairy tales?

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Yeah

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Let it ride, baby

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You you you play god you straight up said i'm god

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You are my child

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Ta-da

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saved

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Good job

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As a 14 year old you're freaking genius and there's 20 10 years later. They are literally still together

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There's always a moment though where you're all right where I feel like every family has like that that story that was just like

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Could you believe it and then someone's like hey actually?

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Oh, yes

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This is one of those. That's freaking awesome. I'm weight though

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Don't even say it. Don't even tell them wait till he's 50 and then no not even then

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Wait till one of them goes into the casket and then you're like mom get this

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You thought you and dad were good. Let me tell you why

394
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Yeah, 40 years ago me also your oils are shit

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Your oils started to make me get sick

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Yeah

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No, it would have to be that the like that the mom dies and then he tells the dad like you can't tell the mom

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Like she will just like her whole identity is just her life is

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You know how much money she has spent on these oils?

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How much money they spent on the medical pills all the tests they were running all the scans he run them up

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for them to stay like

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They couldn't afford the divorce attorney

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Exactly

404
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Hey money work they're still paying off the CAT scan

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But it worked baby

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That's why they stayed together

407
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Yeah, although they couldn't afford it at that point. What I like want to try and like

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Create a scenario like what if she did tell them? Yes, right?

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Like let her parents be like wow

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We really weren't like in the perfect role

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They feel like we really just need to be focused on our child because it tells me like maybe they weren't

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Yeah

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Your kid gets a little bit easier to raise because she's the only one so she's probably all enough to take care of herself

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So then their parents started doing their own things and then they grew apart

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Right and they decided they wanted to get a divorce and this daughter's like hello. I'm still here

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Yeah, so they came together where they should be always

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You know, that's true. You're welcome. Yes. I don't know at the parent. I'd feel like an idiot

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Yeah, the last thing I do is get mad is get mad at my child. I'd be like, whoa

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I'm so glad we're still together like this. Yeah, I mean look at all the memories that come since

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Do you think them? Is it a boy or girl? It's he's male. Oh, okay

421
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So this son, but he says 24 and oh, okay, so this son

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Going let's say he tells the parents mom and dad

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I lied. I was never sick. There was never any problems

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I saw that you guys were struggling and you were gonna get a divorce and I was absolutely terrified and I didn't want to lose my family over it

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So I faked it

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Do you think that

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truth

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Coming out would end in them

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Getting a divorce

430
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No

431
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They're actually in a good spot. Yeah, okay. No way

432
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It's been too long. Okay, but it is interesting to think like what would be the consequences of him telling them

433
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Yeah, so what does he have to lose then if they're not gonna get a divorce?

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But they could be like

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Well, it's dismantling her whole identity at this point. Yeah, she literally she's like so invested in these essential oils

436
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And now it's like it's saved my family. It saved my life. Blah blah blah. It's like I feel like that'd be like

437
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:47,180
Yeah, I don't know her fault is the mom

438
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:53,900
I can understand where like this boy this man is coming from but I take it rid of the guilt

439
00:34:54,700 --> 00:35:01,100
Yeah, yeah, like it's like what Tanner said you play god like you say that weird good things tell your friends he gets lit

440
00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:03,180
I did

441
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:07,820
I'll be telling everyone at parties like bro, and I was 14 right listen to this

442
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:15,820
You were doing drugs. I was I was saving there like 10 years later, bro. Like you should stop worrying about it by now

443
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:21,260
Yeah, I yeah for me. I'd be just like I would be thinking about it all the time

444
00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:28,140
Yeah, I really would be so proud of yourself. I'd be like dude feeling guilty biggest biggest fleece job of all time

445
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:31,900
Have you ever kept anything from your parents?

446
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:35,100
Um, oh many things. Have you?

447
00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:37,580
I mean like to yourself

448
00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:42,620
Does it plague you? Yeah, not something like that that impacts both of them so much

449
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:47,500
But positively impacts them. This isn't even if it was a negative thing sure. I feel guilty

450
00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:53,500
Yeah, like if it well, but like what if he did that and they still got divorced after they found out that he was fine

451
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:57,020
Like that he like he put them through all that like well, there is them

452
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:03,340
But like they stayed together so it's like the price of my divorce is a lot of money. I don't realize it

453
00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:06,460
It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. So I've heard

454
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:10,380
I got a quote one not worth it

455
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:12,380
I

456
00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:14,380
Way rather just keep the money

457
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:18,780
But like the month we built for therapy

458
00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:25,980
It all adds up you guys either paper the divorce you paper therapy shoes shoes your heart

459
00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:34,620
You guys want to hear some comments

460
00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:40,620
All right, what are people saying? Okay, you love this one. This is my favorite. Ah, yes the classic move

461
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:43,340
fake a serious illness to save your parents marriage

462
00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:48,540
And now your mom's convinced essential oils can solve every problem from bad wi-fi to world hunger

463
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:53,980
If only all family issues could be resolved with a few drops of lavender and a heaping dose of deception

464
00:36:53,980 --> 00:37:04,300
Congratulations, you've achieved the ultimate life hack saving your parents marriage with a fake illness and a super fake lavender scented solution

465
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,460
Hats off to you sir. Sometimes ignorance truly is bliss

466
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:13,900
I think because I I'm the type that I want to know like the truth. I want to know it all

467
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:17,980
As the mom I feel so bad for her. She really does not know

468
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,100
But she doesn't know that she doesn't know it's not like the the son

469
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:26,460
Like she knows that her son has this big secret that like tears him up inside. They're literally just don't know and

470
00:37:27,660 --> 00:37:29,660
No

471
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:46,780
Last comment last comment

472
00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:52,300
Okay, so you went from my parents might divorce to my mom now believes essential oils can fix anything

473
00:37:52,540 --> 00:37:56,460
You're basically a household hero who accidentally started an essential oil empire

474
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,940
If you ever want to come clean just tell her how you discovered a new blend that's very powerful. It's called honesty

475
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:07,740
I love that

476
00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:10,940
He needs to make hallmark cards

477
00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:12,940
I'm no kidding

478
00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:15,180
Actually, it's senate so he has mignol

479
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:17,180
But this could be a hallmark movie

480
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:19,180
Oh

481
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:27,580
Let's do it hallmark hallmark hear me out. I got an idea the fourth wall. It's christmas time

482
00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:31,020
Peppermint leaves

483
00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:32,620
everywhere

484
00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:35,500
Mom dad mad kids sick happy

485
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:39,500
Right where's the love interest come in?

486
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:41,500
Yeah, well the kids 14

487
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:46,940
The love interest is the mom and dad. We're saving a marriage

488
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:54,460
It's a little different kind of hallmark movie, but we're going deeper. We're going older generation to like saving marriages rather than splitting marriage

489
00:38:54,540 --> 00:39:00,220
Oh, and they love hallmark movies that generation. Yeah, I love hallmark. Her mom watches them all

490
00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:04,060
I want to be in one so

491
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:06,860
You have to go to canada

492
00:39:06,860 --> 00:39:08,860
Oh

493
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:16,060
I would love to know who you guys believe is the fake

494
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:18,540
I think the kids

495
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:24,620
Chatting and pooping and yeah the diabetes dad with the dying mom with the sick

496
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,580
Everyone in that family had issues. I

497
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:32,860
I hear you. There's no way you have that much illness in one family

498
00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:37,900
And she's just like by the way this laundry list of things like what do you guys think?

499
00:39:38,380 --> 00:39:44,140
It's like um, yeah, I don't know quit for me. I think it's either joes or hers

500
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:48,220
Okay, so joe or marlies. I think it's marlies

501
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:50,940
I think it was just like

502
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:53,420
men

503
00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:55,420
Yeah, me men. She didn't did men

504
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:59,500
It wasn't my story. That was just that was just what I remember

505
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,780
What was the comment from discoveries 404?

506
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:10,300
I think it's probably joe. That's like a little crazy. I feel like that's like I don't think it's crazy. I think the comments

507
00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:15,660
Were too clever. They were very clever. I think all all three comments were very clever

508
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:20,860
If you've ever been on reddit, there's some funny people. That's true. There's there punny

509
00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:26,300
Tanner and daniella, we cannot thank you guys enough for being here tonight like seriously

510
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:30,780
You are so fun. We would love to have you guys back like every week be a part of it forever

511
00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:56,780
And we love you all frenzies. Thanks so much for being here and we can't wait to see you guys next Tuesday