Welcome back to Internet frenzy. What's up gang? We got a guest joining the
podcast for the first time. You're welcome I'm here. Thank you for joining us sir.
What's your name? Joe. He's Joe. My name is also Joe. So I'm the second coolest Joe
in the room. That's my second lap. My name is Isaiah. I'm Marley and I am Whitney. Let's go. Let's
freaking go. Let's do a recap of last week. Let's see. Starting with the crazy intervention story.
Crazy boyfriend manipulating everybody for no reason. Could be real. Could be
that she was Dalulu and is actually a drug addict. We don't know. Or the psychologist is actually not
a psychologist. Psychologist. He could be a Faco. Okay and then there was mine. Mine was the
co-workers talking about killing the girlfriend in the group chat. Absolutely terrifying. Not just
any co-workers but all the girl co-workers. Yeah and he had a affair with one of them. Oh it was a dude? Yeah.
And he like talked to all of his girl co-workers about this fight. And they're like let's kill her. Wow.
Let's feed her to the pigs and take her teeth out. Wow. That's crazy. That was crazy. And then we got
Joe's birthday cake. But it was valid. She was mistreated. Back story helps. Back story helps.
Yeah because Isaiah doesn't care what Marley wants for her birthday cake. No. He wants to make that clear.
She didn't know. She didn't know my favorite birthday cake flavor so. Because you guys haven't
celebrated a birthday together yet. Not in two years. And then we had Peaology Boy. The homie allergic
to peas. Friends go out of the way. We found out earlier that peas and peanuts are in the same family.
And then my 10th cousins wants to remove. Which is not in the legume family. Yes. Technically a peanut is not even a true nut.
It says that it's a legume. So what's a cashew? I don't know about cashew. I don't know that. That's like peanut kind of refers to that.
You're gonna have to get that one on Google later. Wait are you allergic to Marley? All nuts except almonds.
Are you allergic to peanuts? Yes. Are you allergic to peas? A little bit. Didn't you just say peanuts aren't technically nuts?
So my story isn't how to treat peanuts. Wait but. So now I'm gonna. But I just learned that information so now I'm gonna change how I.
Change what you're allergic to if you've been eating it. How I see it. I'm allergic to the legume family. So you're the same dude as this guy lying about pea allergies.
Yeah. Okay well let's talk about who we think the fake story was. Could have been Marley's. Marley's was so good. Pretty freaking out there.
I think it's gotta be the birthday cake. I wasn't here for the whole thing but. That one was actually like the realest. Awesome rewind episode too.
Yeah. It's alright. It's alright. That's fine. I'm going pee boy. Yeah I think it was pee boy. Was it you back to back? Was it you?
Oh yeah. Fake story back to back. What are the odds? One and four. Back to back to back to back. One and four twice in a row.
Well I'd prefer it to be a given person. One and four in general. I guess I'm the second smartest Joe in the room too.
For those that are listening in the podcast Joe, my Joe just rolled his eyes like literally farther than I've ever seen him.
If you couldn't hear the sigh. I don't know what to tell you. You didn't hear that eye roll. It rewinds. It might have been I corrected him after he corrected me.
Oh. So you've met your maps by Joe. No I surrender. He wins. I surrender. I don't even blame you. Same.
Anyway. Okay so Isaiah was the fakey. Let's see what we got this week. There's no way you're going to go three times in a row. Back to back to back.
That would be crazy. What are the chances? That'd be so anticlimactic. One and sixteen. Oh okay. Wow who are you? It's not that difficult. Easy math.
What's the word? 16. Got it. Yes. I'm so good at math. Okay so I'm thinking I start. Are we ready? Yeah. Let's do it.
So this is from Am I the Asshole. This girl 18 female got pregnant and she and her parents want me 19 male to step up and help her raise her baby.
I am not the dad but I want to go into the court. I told her no. I feel bad though. Advice needed. So listen up.
Basically this girl I always had a crush on got knocked up by some random loser and now while she is pregnant she has been wanting to date me.
Her parents want me to step up and be a man so they don't have to help her take care of the baby for like the next 18 years and have her stay with them.
She is not a piece of cake by the way. But the thing is I am not the dad. She said she wants me to be her boyfriend and for me to get a job and a place for her and me to let to live to help raise our kid.
My dad told me to tell her to go f herself and not to put my dreams to the side and that I am so young and just to kid myself and to never ever in my entire life get involved with her.
I said her baby is not my responsibility and he will be heartbroken if I voluntarily take on this burden. He fully supports me going into the court.
I told her I do not want to get involved with her. Her dad told me I am not a real man. Update.
I have been able to successfully block this girl and her parents on all social media platforms and their phone numbers and home phone as well from my cell phone.
I have also gotten a temporary restraining order. There is a legal process you have to go through for a real permanent one but I am working on it against her and her parents.
None of them are allowed to contact me by any means including phone, email, mail, in person or by someone else. If they do, the sheriff will have his deputies go to their house and bring them to the local jail.
So that was the update on all of this but he needs advice.
Stay away.
Yeah.
He is not the asshole.
The answer to the N. Y. The asshole is not even a little bit. It is 100% on her dad. That is ridiculous.
My thought is that, does she really care about this kid at all? It says that she wants to be my girlfriend or whatever.
There is not a chance if she is not pregnant that she is getting with him anyways.
100%
That is such a good point.
That is why she is kicking him because he knows.
This kid has loved me forever.
Exactly. It is like pick up the charity case.
Yeah.
Absolutely insane. I can't help but think they are kind of like targeting him because one, it sounds like he has always been in her life.
Right? Don't you think?
Yeah.
Like there is history there.
Like across the street.
Yeah.
Like always.
The parents know each other maybe.
Yeah.
And then also it is like he is going into the court and wants to.
I have heard, I am not sure, but really good benefits to that.
Right?
And so I feel like he is kind of being targeted in a sense.
Like this dad is like, he is perfect for this.
He is the perfect pick a dad guy.
Yeah.
My daughter got knocked up and now I need to pick a dad for her.
I don't know why this guy is not chasing down the baby daddy.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah.
The dad.
Yes.
Hot take though.
His dad.
Yes.
I will be heartbroken if you get with her.
I just think that is a little bold.
Like can you just like maybe support your son a little bit.
Just be like, you have a choice.
You know what I want.
But if whatever you do, I'll support you.
Not be like heartbroken.
I feel like that is a little messed up.
I don't know.
That is like taking on a whole child that is not yours.
Yeah.
That is so young.
But like.
And the dad knows what she is doing.
But also in there it says that like the parents want him because they don't want to be taking
care of this baby for 18 years.
Is the daughter such a bum that she's going to be single for 18 years?
Yes.
Right.
You think?
He said in the post like she requires work.
Yeah.
He said she's not a piece of cake.
Yeah.
It sucks.
18 years you couldn't find anything or get a job or something.
Like they're expecting it to be on them like the parents for the 18 years.
That's insane.
That's true.
I mean they want to make sure their girl is taken care of too.
That's like natural.
But that's the thing is they don't want to take care of her.
Yeah.
That's why they want to pawn her off to someone else.
It's like oh we don't want to take care of her.
If they're banking on his money from the Marine Corps they're not even planning on him being
there either.
Yeah.
They wanting him to take care of mommy and daddy too.
Does daddy need help too?
Wait my butt.
I'm just joking.
He's not a thing.
He does not approve of those jokes.
No way.
You got a better zinger?
No I'm just listening.
But yeah in conclusion what for advice though?
Yeah for advice.
What?
I mean he's done it.
See ya soldier.
Get out there.
Go into the Marines and don't look back son.
And thank you.
Thank you for your service kid.
Get out there.
You're going to marry down the road sometimes.
Probably going to be a Marine too.
You'll both have a pension.
It's going to be great.
This is from True Off My Chest and the title is My Wife Left Me After Two Months Of Marriage.
Last June, 2023, my partner and I got married after six years together.
We had a wonderful relationship.
Open communication, laughs, long term goals and it was the most stable I have ever felt
in my life.
Two months into the marriage she had abruptly left after an explosive fight on the family
vacation.
For context, I am a 33 female and she is a 30 female.
Before the wedding she became extremely close to a co-worker at her new teaching job and
was quite going out quite frequently.
I chalked it up to sewing her oats before being married.
I voiced my uncomfortable feelings about the co-worker constantly texting, calling and
reaching out on all social media platforms.
My partner agreed and the communication and hanging out lessened.
This woman came to our bridal shower and joined Bachelorette and eventually was invited to
our wedding.
A few weeks before, the wedding I saw text messages alluding to the fact that my partner
did not need to get married, can do better, etc.
I told her she is not invited to our wedding and all contacts need to be cut.
Fast forward two months post marriage on the family vacation.
I see my partner texting this co-worker and explode.
My partner voiced that we both need therapy and I should look at my drinking habits and
will take some space.
To make a very long story short, after almost 8 months of living separately, but doing couples
therapy, talking every day, personal therapy and weekly hangouts, she agreed to come home
in June after her teaching school.
School year was over.
That would be one year since our marriage and a fresh start for the both of us.
I know it seems crazy, but I believe in loyalty, marriage, and working through problems.
When the lease was up, I simply received a text message stating I am not renewing the
lease with you and we're over.
I have since found out through her family and friends that she is having an affair almost
the entire time of our separation.
The woman she left me for is that co-worker.
A 43 female divorcee with two children and at least one previous affair with their married
male principal under her belt.
Obviously, I absolutely was devastated and crushed.
I have not had contact with her since we had to split all of the wedding gifts and personal
belongings from our home.
I confronted her and asked for the truth and honestly, oh truth and honesty about the situation,
she admittedly denied an affair and told me I had no real proof.
She blamed our split on my personal fault and not having her trust.
The manipulation, gaslighting, and blatant lies are the real killer here.
She was living a double life this entire time and this was probably going on before the
wedding.
I know now they're in a full blown relationship.
She has completely moved on and erased me as if the last year never happened.
I feel so stupid and lost and confused.
My whole future has been wiped away from me and I feel helpless.
I have been going to therapy, remain in California sober and hanging out with friends and family.
Still, who the hell did I marry?
I have so many questions for her and I never really got the closure I needed.
Any thoughts, recommendations, or similar situations would be extremely helpful.
How does someone just let this go?
I think the biggest thing to me is that there's clear signs beforehand of disloyalty or at
least some shakiness.
I feel like at some point you have to find the line between what is stuff.
I guess I'm the only single one here.
You guys is all married people.
Where do you draw the line between something that is just a fault and a person that you're
going to have to accept and everybody has faults and what is something that is blatantly
just not something you can work through?
It makes me wonder if she mentioned that the relationship with the co-worker was like made
her a little bit uncomfortable.
She brought it up to her.
In my mind I'm thinking what made her partner want to get married if she's already banged
in this other girl?
Something there to the point where it's like if I'm putting myself in an OP situation,
I'm not writing her off completely.
Why else would she want to proceed with me?
That's why I don't think that it's an instantaneous like okay this relationship is over because
I'm questioning your loyalty unless she found out that she was having an affair.
Then that's obviously a whole different scenario.
I guess that's fair.
To the best of her knowledge she had chilled out on the communication with her and cut
her out a little bit.
I feel like another thing that just makes me question the integrity of her partner is
that she like broke up over text.
Oh yeah.
Terrible.
Like just had to change her plans.
I'm not redoing the lease with you.
After almost.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I mean you're married.
You're not even like dating somebody for a while and breaking up over text is a crazy
play but marriage?
That's crazy.
Well yeah they've been together for six years.
That sucks so bad.
But everything you had in life and like new and loved is just like gone with a text message.
How do you get closure from that?
That's the thing you don't.
They're also not like 20.
They're what is this?
She's like 31.
Yeah.
It's like you're at the point in life where you're like you're probably a little bit
closer to feeling like you could settle down.
It's even worse if that's the case.
But all I could think about for OP is that like she's gonna be better off.
Like this is not the type of partner you want to spend the rest of your life with.
True.
And like yeah all of the stuff that we know about the person now it's like hopefully with
therapy and like spending time on the beach or whatever she likes to do.
Like she'll be able to get over it and find what's next for her.
Because ultimately it's like just a big huge dumpster fire.
Yeah.
I think you do also have to kind of find a point.
I almost think it's good that it's just done.
Like I don't know I think it's definitely worth trying to work through things most of
the time and seeing what you can do but if it's just like if there's no remorse.
Yeah.
Which it sounds like there is no remorse.
It's almost easier just to clean slate.
Try to find somebody to try to try to move on and try to build yourself but sitting there
trying to build something that was never stable is just not the right play.
Do you think the other lady even like in her mind like even was like yeah at the end of
this year we might I might get back to her.
Or do you think she was just like I'm just gonna leave her on for this whole year.
And make her think she has an idea.
Here.
Well think about it because she's not living there at that point.
So maybe she was hoping like this girl was just going to pay rent for the rest of the
year until the lease was done.
Because her name's on it.
And then at that point you like came I have nothing tied to her anymore at that point.
Like I'm done.
I didn't I like didn't even register that that could be a possibility.
I'm smart.
People are so jacked up about money.
Everyone and money.
Yes.
If you're rich get off our podcast.
Yeah.
No no no stay on sponsor.
Yeah.
No what's so weird to me is that she leaves someone with she leaves her girlfriend for
her wife for someone that has so much baggage.
So much baggage.
It's already had an affair.
It's like multiple like bang in the principal and like there was so much in there it was
like huh.
Wait.
I got the principal.
She's divorced.
She has two kids and bang to the principal.
It's not like the wife is full of integrity either.
I mean this this whole like the affair partners school like that should be a reality TV show.
We got the principal banging the teacher without a teacher banging another married teacher
like this is like the whole freaking thing.
Don't work at schools.
I don't know.
Don't.
What was the what was the final like what what did it ask it was a true off my chest.
So she was getting it off the chest and she just wanted some advice.
There's no update in general.
Yeah there's an update.
Just go find another girl.
Yeah.
She's a kid.
It's not necessarily that.
She'll go find another girl.
Just just enter the core and don't look back.
Everybody's entering the core.
There's hinge there.
Get your head in your core and get out.
That's right.
You can find love in the core.
You can.
Yes.
Maybe you'll find another friend.
Yeah.
Hey you can find love in the core.
Hey okay.
I don't need the core.
Come on.
I'm finding girls.
It's fine.
Hit him up ladies.
It's not your super.
Hey Jordan.
This could be really good for you.
Maybe I'll drop the Snapchat.
We'll see.
I was gonna say number but I don't know that I will.
We'll do snap.
Maybe look at my LinkedIn.
We'll see.
Yeah.
Is it up to date?
No.
All right.
I love it.
Good story Mar.
My the asshole for telling my friend her breakup was an inappropriate topic at my engagement
party.
Me, male 32 and my fiance female 30 had an engagement party this summer.
The party was great and we had a good time with friends and family, etc.
However, one thing really bugs both me and my fiance.
I have her friend, Collar Madison 32.
She was invited to the party and is someone I have been friends with for a long time since
junior high about 11 years on the day of the party.
Oh 11 years old.
Sorry.
On the day of the party, she told us she broke up with her boyfriend.
We consoled her and cared for her and tried to make sure she was okay.
While it's also organizing the party.
We had 200 guests, so there was a lot of food drinks organizing to do.
So they have like millions of friends.
Awesome.
When Madison arrived to the party, the only topic she spoke about was breaking up with
her boyfriend.
The first thing she said to me and my fiance was about breaking up and then asking a bunch
of inappropriate questions about their sex relationship and then started asking about
our personal relationship trying to compare against her failed one and telling us things
about her breakup and no congratulations to us.
We of course wanted to enjoy the party so tried to console and then change conversations,
lighten the mood, etc.
But that didn't really work and essentially it was the only thing she spoke about all
night to us and any of the 200 or so guests we had.
She proceeded to get drunk and then talk in detail about her sex life to our friends.
Quite a few people commented on this to us and she said was quite overbearing.
On the night I didn't bring it up with her and I didn't want to cause a scene and ruin
the party and generally had a great night.
However this stuck both.
This stuck in both mine and my fiance's mind and we didn't like the fact she couldn't
just celebrate us and have a good night.
So I spoke to Madison about it a week later and said that her talking about her breakup
all night wasn't very nice for us and brought the atmosphere down and that she could have
just enjoyed the night instead.
That it made us feel annoyed and that we didn't like that you did that and please could you
not do that in the future.
At the time of this conversation Madison agreed and apologized but then some days later texted
and said actually we were wrong for bringing it up and that she thinks it's strange we
were both bothered by her being upset, that all her friends agree we are the weird ones,
that she didn't say anything appropriate to anyone which is not true.
So I think she's in denial about the part or embarrassed to admit it.
That she was upset we should just support her and that we are not good friends to her for
even bringing it up.
We now are at a stalemate as I don't want to apologize and Madison has pretty much taken
her apology back.
Ok so I want to know, one, am I the asshole for being annoyed about Madison only talking
about her breakup and intimate relationship details at mine and my fiance's engagement
party?
Let's just talk about that one first.
Ok no but also I feel like you have to see Madison side a little bit.
A breakup is hard especially if like it was a serious thing you can't really just turn
around and be like partying that night or whatever.
You know like she was going hard but it does not sound like she was having a party.
It does sound like she was having a good time and I feel like you can't blame her for not
having a good time.
That being said I think it's definitely on her to not be bringing everybody else down
with her.
Yes and also it's like this isn't the time to just be like spitting out all the details.
You know what I mean?
And that's hard because it's like when you're so heartbroken and like your world's been
turned upside down it's really hard not to like...
Be impulsive.
Shut your mouth and yeah you just want to be impulsive and just like splurge it all out
and say all the details and this is what happened blah blah but there is a time and place she
was drinking alcohol was involved which doesn't help her situation.
But do we feel like them going to Madison and being like we feel like what you did was
wrong don't do it again?
Do we feel like that was necessary?
So that's the second question of am I the asshole?
Or are they the asshole for bringing it up?
Could I?
Yes you may.
It takes a level of emotional intelligence to realize that that is wrong.
So like depending on the age the frontal lobe is frontal cortex is not fully developed like
it's understandable as she wouldn't realize but ultimately like not the place not the
time don't bring it up and everybody would reach a certain point in life hopefully where
you'd realize that that's you just don't do that.
You don't make that celebration which is a good thing it's an important decision it should
be celebrated don't make that about you despite your situation you kind of have to hold it
in and if you're really banged up about it don't go.
And people would understand that like the friend would understand that like it's okay
it's not the wedding it's the engagement party not that big of a deal.
I will say though they might not understand especially because that's a childhood bestie.
But that's the risk that you should be willing to take.
If you can't go and respect their time.
Like a text of like hey this happened I don't want to be a bummer all night.
Yeah like I'm in a dream.
Yeah I hate staying home.
Yeah exactly like I can't.
Also can we know this is not some like small engagement party like that's.
That's great.
That is quite the engagement.
That's not like a little like hey a couple of us friends are getting together.
That's massive.
And also to benefit the doubt with Madison she probably thought she was being a good friend
by like a miss admit a missed is that the right.
Yeah a missed all the drama that she's gotten her life her world being turned upside down
she's still showing up whether she's showing up in the right way or the wrong way like
in her mind she's thinking like at least I showed up for you and here you are like
bagging on me for crying at your party about the breakup.
Well she also though was trying to compare talking about their how they were doing what
they're doing.
Yeah like what give me more details on that.
So what happened was before she got drunk she went up to the guy and the couple and
was like trying to compare what they were doing to what they were doing with intimate
and like yeah she was like trying to say that hers was better than theirs how are you
guys still together kind of a thing that's that's how I read it as when I was reading
it.
Oh that's so weird.
Oh so now you ain't about it.
I well I mean I was very uncomfortable.
She's the asshole.
Yeah there's no two ways about it she's the asshole for bringing her sadness to the engagement
party and that's really kind of like the baseline.
Sure like maybe they could have handled it better but like if we're starting there she's
the asshole in my opinion.
Also do you feel like it could have gone better if they just sent her home when she showed
up the wreck.
Like I don't think like if she showed up.
I know.
Yeah I can't tell myself.
I could not tell myself like look you're a mess.
I feel like it depends how you do though.
Turn around.
Hey bro you need to leave like here.
Okay well yeah if you say like that.
But I feel like it's like hey dude like you've had such a hard day.
We totally understand if you just like if you don't want to be here.
Like rock, two, then go.
So she also was looking for some validation and like she was like she was fishing for
some.
She was making it about her.
Yeah she was making it about her.
I don't know.
Trying to see her sad.
I feel bad like break up would suck.
Yeah but you're the asshole.
Yeah still the asshole.
Yeah she is.
In conclusion.
I will say on the on the confronting them I feel like there is a certain point you should
just let it go.
Like if you if you if you realize she's in a bad spot I feel like saying something isn't
gonna help you in any way.
Oh I don't know if that's completely true because this is just the engagement party.
Like and they obviously had a huge engagement party so like probably everything leading
up to their wedding is gonna be a huge big deal.
So like if they're like hey like don't do that again.
I think that's pretty valid in their sense because she's gonna be coming to all the things
and if all she ever talks about every time is gonna be the breakup like I'd be pretty.
Yeah I don't know if she'll know.
We'll see if she goes to the other stuff.
Yeah if they're like still friends.
But that would be stressful like if you're the bride and that happened it's your childhood
bestie and she did all that in your engagement party.
No no it's the guy.
It's the guy's friend Madison.
Oh so it's like me having a friend that was a girl.
That changes things because no wonder Madison is so pissed because she's thinking that's
coming from the wife.
That's like Patty's.
That's a girl thing.
Like girls would be more upset about it than guys would be.
Like I can't imagine Joe texting like let's say a girl like a friend of yours came to
our engagement party.
You're not texting her unless I'm pissed and I'm telling you to text that girl.
So she's from Whitney.
Yes that makes it so much worse.
But they know they they brought it up to her in person.
That's still same.
It's not a good look Madison.
Yeah Madison and also like she's got to go.
Why she yeah I don't know.
I feel like it's weird if she's so adamant on talking to him.
Especially with like the intimacy stuff.
Yeah that's even weird.
She's like oh my intimacy was better.
Yours is worse.
We should try it together.
Yeah.
But maybe not.
Maybe she wasn't shooting her shot with the kid.
Maybe she just was.
Maybe it really is.
Erin out of her sadness.
But she still is.
Not the time to do it and she'll learn.
Am I the asshole for kicking my husband out after we both found out we were cheating on
each other.
Correct.
Love that.
Boy you got to reset that again.
Okay I'm going to say it really slow.
Follow along.
Am I the asshole for kicking my husband out after we both found out we were cheating on
each other.
My husband 34 M and I 32 F have been married for seven years.
The first few years were great but over time we started to grow apart.
We became more like roommates than a married couple.
We tried to fix things but nothing seemed to help.
Eventually we just started living separate lives under the same roof.
About six months ago I started seeing someone else.
Let's call him Mark.
I met him through a friend and what began as a harmless conversation turned into something
more.
I know it was wrong but I felt neglected and unseen at home and Mark gave me the attention
I was craving.
Last weekend I went out with friends and when I got home I had this feeling that something
was off with my husband.
I decided to go through his phone and that's when I found text between him and a woman named
Anna.
It was obvious from the messages that he was having an affair.
I was furious and confronted him immediately.
He didn't deny it but instead he accused me of cheating too.
That's when I realized he must have gone through my phone earlier and seen the text between
Mark and me.
This is literally powerful.
We stood there in shock realizing we were both guilty of the same thing.
The argument that followed was intense.
We both hurled accusations at each other, each blaming the other for why our marriage
fell apart.
He said I pushed him away by being emotionally unavailable and I told him that he checked
out of our relationship long before I did.
The more we argued, the more I realized how angry I was.
Not just at him for cheating but how our marriage had become so broken.
In a fit of rage I told him to leave.
I said that if he wanted to be with Anna so badly he should go be with her.
He tried to argue back saying we were both at fault but I didn't care.
I needed him out of the house.
He's been staying at a friend's place since then and we've barely spoken.
Now that I've had time to cool down I'm feeling conflicted.
I know we're both to blame for what happened but I don't regret kicking him out.
It felt like the only way to take control of the situation was spiraling out of control.
So am I the asshole for kicking him out of the house after we both cheated or was I justified
in doing so?
She's an asshole.
Okay.
You're not gonna like this.
Let's unpack some of this.
You're not gonna like this.
No.
Yeah, I'm probably not.
She's an asshole.
I don't think she's a...
You can't just keep living together.
Right?
One of you's gotta get out of the house.
Someone's gotta go.
And so I feel like this doesn't have enough background information for us to say.
It's more so dependent on like how, who was at fault in the relationship.
And it doesn't really sound like we have a lot of that.
But I mean like if it's on him then he low key should kind of...
You gotta separate first so I can cool down.
You're not gonna be able to just cool down the same house.
Who cheated first?
Let's not stop that.
That's literally what I was gonna say.
I was like who's affair started first?
It does though.
Because when you like cheat you are so disconnected from your actual partner at that point.
It sounds like it was pretty...
But think about this.
It's not like a long distance.
And if there's not like a long distance...
I do find there's difference if like he starts cheating in like four or five months down
the road.
She's just filled in and neglected.
And then she goes and cheats if I have it's different.
But it fits within like a month or so and it's like feelings that she's had already for
their whole marriage.
Then I find that doesn't come into play.
I get ya.
I wish we had more context here.
Like what do they do for work?
Who has more money?
What do they do?
Are they gonna get a divorce?
Like where are we at here?
They're definitely getting a divorce.
Yeah.
You think...
I wonder if there's stories out there like success stories where they both cheat on each
other and they stay together.
They're both like wow we...
100%.
You think so?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay if you are one of those couples listening please send us your story.
Unpopular opinion.
I almost like those couples have a better chance than people who just had one person cheat
because now you're both back even and you're like...
That's true.
Here's the thing.
You're back even.
You said something.
You're like who's responsible for the marriage falling apart?
It's both of them.
That's true.
In this story she says that it gets stale.
Things start to suck at a certain point and that's what causes them to both look elsewhere
and like one in two marriages ends in divorce.
It's not a secret that that happens.
They were at the 7 out of 5.
One in two now?
Yeah.
I believe it's...
It used to be like one in five.
Is it one in five or something though?
It's been 50% for a minute.
Yeah.
Marriage is great.
But they're not even talking divorce yet.
They're literally...
She's literally just asking my asshole for kicking out.
I think it's more of an individual like in that time of kicking out not like permanently
removed like I get the house you're gone.
Yeah.
I think it's...
What do you think that moment was?
It just like...
Holy shit.
It made me think of a Spider-Man meme.
You both cheated on me.
Literally I just did that bit.
So yeah.
What?
Yeah.
You didn't see it before but...
You're like three minutes behind.
You'll see it on YouTube.
Yeah.
Watch it back.
It's alright.
I don't...
Hit a little rewind.
So I bet I agree with what you're saying Joe that like someone had to leave that night.
You know like they both messed up.
Someone had to go.
So why does it have to be the guy?
I don't know.
It just ended up being that way.
She was the first one to say it.
She called it.
She said...
She called the house.
She said it.
She said dibs.
I don't think it's like dibs.
Before we get too crazy, do you guys want to hear the top comment?
Yeah.
Okay this had the most up folks.
You're the asshole.
You both cheated.
So neither of you is innocent here.
But kicking him out was extreme.
Instead of trying to work through it or even just separating calmly, you escalated things
by throwing him out.
This situation calls for more communication, not more drama.
Yeah.
Wow.
That was such a mic drop.
Dude.
I'm going to use that for us, babe.
I'm going to use that for us.
I'm going to use it for you.
I'm not leaving the house.
I'm not either.
I'll take I look.
Okay.
Here's another comment I liked.
This one says ESH.
Everyone sucks here.
So everyone's the asshole.
Both of you stepped outside.
That is a great answer.
Yeah.
Both of you stepped outside your marriage.
So you're both responsible for where things ended up.
However, your husband shouldn't have cheated and neither should you.
Kicking him out was just a way to avoid dealing with the real issues in your relationship.
Yes.
Yeah.
They're coming so good.
I don't think you can just unpack that in a night of finding out.
Yes.
I feel like you do need to like take a step back, calm down and then reanalyze your entire
marriage because clearly there's flaws.
Tell him what's going down.
Mark, it's over.
Or it's over.
Come over.
What if the two people they were cheating on ended up hooking up?
And they just have a love square?
Oh, Mark and Anna?
Yeah.
Oh, they just have a foursome.
Oh, sure.
Dang.
That's economical.
I love that idea.
That's not a good idea.
Not recommended.
Really bad.
They always, you know, as soon as it gets to be more than two people, it just really
complicates things.
Is that your personal experience?
That's not a question that you should ask.
But why don't you start with just a normal relationship first?
How about a monogamous one?
Yes.
Okay, I found one.
That was on her side?
You want to tell us about her?
You want to ruin the engagement party?
You want to ruin our pot?
There was one comment that supported Wifey.
It says, not the asshole.
He cheated first and you found out about it.
You had every right to be upset and ask him to leave.
It sounds like your marriage was already over and his affair was just the final nail in
the coffin.
Cool.
So you don't care about it?
Wait, did he cheat first?
You know that reminds me of this?
It's like she cheated first.
She found out first, seconds before.
It's like twins getting birthed and the older twins like, I don't know, a minute older.
Yeah.
That's literally it.
Like A versus B.
So yeah.
That's a lot.
I don't even know.
And like therapy.
Therapy.
Yeah, therapy.
I always do it.
So like, are we rooting for them as a couple to stay together?
No.
It sounds like the ship has well sailed.
But like, ultimately it's what are they looking for individually?
What did Mark have?
What did Anna have?
And like, if you can find that in your marriage, you're already there and like divorce is messy.
It doesn't mention things about kids that also goes into it a lot.
So I mean, if there were kids.
34 and 32.
So they're also like, they're like, but if they have kids, those are gonna be young
kids.
Yeah.
That's sad.
I honestly am stumped.
I don't know who has the fixed story.
Oh gosh, I didn't think about that.
They all sounded really good tonight.
Yeah.
I think it's either either Marley or Joe.
Okay.
Wow.
Here's the thing.
He has to be the greatest freestyle of all time to come up with top comments.
Three more comments on top of this thing already.
That's pretty insane.
I mean, I don't know.
Even if everyone sucks your comment, that's pretty crazy to pull out of his back pocket.
I don't know.
Marley's chat GPT before us all.
I don't think it was Isaiah's.
There's no way he would get three in a row.
Yeah, there's not.
And that one sounded like way better than all his other fake ones.
So either he got really good at like fixing.
Oh, yeah.
What was yours?
I don't even remember.
It was.
It was so long ago.
Remember, yours was the females.
Yours was the Marine Corps trying to pawn off the kid.
The engagement party.
Oh, yeah.
No, yeah, that sounded that sounded legit.
I could see I could see chat GPT going on right in a little novel.
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
Yeah, I could hear you right.
I think I'm going to turn to Marley.
Oh, the left.
Yeah, left after two months.
Two women.
Well, I'm excited.
Looking forward to knowing.
I know.
I feel like this will be a good one.
I'm going to sign this up until next week.
That right now.
Can we give a guess?
Yeah.
I'm guessing Marley.
I think I'm going through off my chest, bro.
I think I can't vote myself.
I think Joe.
You're going to vote yourself.
No, no, no, no.
That's not what I meant.
I think I'm going to go.
Man, it's either between you two.
Hey, boy, let's go.
Wait, what was yours again?
You're so confident on the 19 year old taking the 18 year olds.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kids?
That's also a good one.
I think I'm going to go with Joe.
So we're split?
What do you think?
Oh, yeah.
Marley or something.
Marley.
Just because I think Marley's was so long that she wouldn't have.
That chat, you can't write that much.
Well, I just don't think she would have like went through and edited all the things chat
that she does wrong of that long.
Like for it to be like.
Yeah, I'm going to say how you got edited at all.
I don't know.
Oh, well, you have to edit things.
I just asked more questions.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go Joe.
Fine answer, Joe.
Okay, Marley.
I can't vote myself.
That's kind of sus, but I'm going to stick to my gun.
Dude, she's so good.
I can't vote.
I'm going Marley.
It's a crazy day.
Oh, my God.
Guys, great job.
I'm going Marley.
It's a crazy day.
Oh, guys, great stories.
That was a good one.
Thank you for having me on the podcast.
Yeah, we wish you could be on every week.
Followers for your cute girl.
I'm on Snapchat.
Let's go.
How old are you?
Jordan underscore all red zero one.
I'm 22.
Overfeed that one more time.
Jordan underscore all red zero one.
Fremzy's on three.
Nope.
I'm out of this.
Fremzy's.
Peace out.
I love you guys.
Later, guys.