WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.660 This week on the season finale of Hot Couple 00:00:02.660 --> 00:00:05.240 Chronicles. We finally have a platform where 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:07.360 we don't have to be censored and no one can tell 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:11.519 us what to say or what to do. This is our show. 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:16.820 Whatever happens, it's ours. This has never really 00:00:16.820 --> 00:00:22.160 made us any money, ever. We make scraps for a 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:25.760 couple of codes that sometimes people use and 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.980 stuff. And the effort that we've done for the 00:00:27.980 --> 00:00:31.929 last four years. I post at least, I post multiple 00:00:31.929 --> 00:00:36.609 times a day every single day for four years and 00:00:36.609 --> 00:00:39.229 make content and do a podcast. Literally for 00:00:39.229 --> 00:00:42.450 the community and for... It's all a love project. 00:00:42.530 --> 00:00:45.310 It's definitely a passion project. It's a love 00:00:45.310 --> 00:00:47.310 thing. It's a heart thing. You know how many 00:00:47.310 --> 00:00:50.090 people have seen our videos and have walked up 00:00:50.090 --> 00:00:52.350 to us and told us that we've changed their entire 00:00:52.350 --> 00:00:56.240 lives? Yeah. We're on the brink of... separating 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.460 or divorce because we wouldn't talk to each other 00:00:58.460 --> 00:01:00.200 but we wanted the same thing and had no idea 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.079 because we didn't even know where to begin and 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.159 we saw a video of yours and it sparked a conversation 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:08.799 welcome to hot couple chronicles a podcast exploring 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.620 the singing lifestyle our discussions may contain 00:01:11.620 --> 00:01:14.319 explicit content and adult themes intended for 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.319 mature audiences while we strive to offer valuable 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.719 insights and entertainment please be aware that 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.159 the views expressed are based on personal experiences 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.480 and opinions We encourage listeners to approach 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.900 the content with an open mind and to prioritize 00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:31.200 communication, consent and respect in their relationships. 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.579 Remember, everyone's journey is unique. So take 00:01:34.579 --> 00:01:36.579 what resonates with you and leave what doesn't. 00:01:36.579 --> 00:02:00.829 Thank you for joining us on our adventure. i'm 00:02:00.829 --> 00:02:04.150 russ and i'm ashley and this is hot couple chronicles 00:02:04.150 --> 00:02:08.069 welcome back welcome thanks for coming back yeah 00:02:08.069 --> 00:02:09.889 i'm still surprised people want to listen to 00:02:09.889 --> 00:02:13.370 us talk and blabber on sit in our bed and ramble 00:02:13.370 --> 00:02:15.909 hang out and ramble but we appreciate you for 00:02:15.909 --> 00:02:19.189 doing it happy home day it's our favorite day 00:02:19.189 --> 00:02:24.469 is it not wednesday but we do love a good home 00:02:24.469 --> 00:02:30.039 we do touche I like to see all the booties on 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.120 social media. Yeah. This week, this has been 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:37.460 a story that we've told a million times and also 00:02:37.460 --> 00:02:41.219 we haven't told anyone a little bit about the 00:02:41.219 --> 00:02:43.199 things that we're going to talk about. This is 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.599 going to be all about Swing Talk and social media 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.520 and how in the heck we got here, why we have 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.259 a podcast, how we ended up. Yeah, how we got 00:02:52.259 --> 00:02:56.159 here. today we've touched on it before but we'll 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.939 go more in depth and we've told these stories 00:02:58.939 --> 00:03:01.860 and told it a million times where we started 00:03:01.860 --> 00:03:05.139 where we are and how we want to continue where 00:03:05.139 --> 00:03:07.060 the future is going and somewhere behind the 00:03:07.060 --> 00:03:10.039 scenes and our views and our opinions on the 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.039 whole thing it should be a good one i know a 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.039 lot of people have been wanting to hear more 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:18.129 about this so Here it is. We finally have a platform 00:03:18.129 --> 00:03:20.229 where we don't have to be censored and no one 00:03:20.229 --> 00:03:23.289 can tell us what to say or what to do. And yeah, 00:03:23.469 --> 00:03:27.590 this is our show. So whatever happens, it's ours. 00:03:28.110 --> 00:03:31.969 Yes. Yeah. Stay tuned. Where to begin? This is 00:03:31.969 --> 00:03:35.729 about four years ago. And as soon as we got excited 00:03:35.729 --> 00:03:38.129 and realized there was a community, we went to 00:03:38.129 --> 00:03:41.349 the club and it turns out there was. all sorts 00:03:41.349 --> 00:03:43.169 of people on social media we're like we could 00:03:43.169 --> 00:03:45.650 find swingers on social media that's there's 00:03:45.650 --> 00:03:47.729 a whole space for people on social media i'll 00:03:47.729 --> 00:03:51.210 just and it was my idea i'm not gonna lie it 00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:54.990 was all his idea and he is the reason i'm here 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:58.469 and you see my face every day but it was my idea 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:01.669 the video itself was my idea he was doing uh 00:04:01.669 --> 00:04:05.310 well no the first video was i didn't even count 00:04:05.310 --> 00:04:07.349 that one because that one was whatever but that 00:04:07.349 --> 00:04:10.580 one really was the first they got i don't really 00:04:10.580 --> 00:04:14.639 count though 350. but it really wasn't a real 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.240 video it was just pictures like a slideshow so 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.500 lame and stupid whatever but the real video that 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:24.319 made us go viral he was opening the amazon package 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.019 for a flag because it was you know christmas 00:04:28.019 --> 00:04:31.019 was over we needed a new flag for outside garden 00:04:31.019 --> 00:04:33.980 yeah and i was on to hill on amazon and it said 00:04:33.980 --> 00:04:36.740 walk home it was just a right side up pineapple 00:04:37.610 --> 00:04:39.610 Nothing too crazy because we weren't ready to 00:04:39.610 --> 00:04:41.389 be like out there out there. Yeah, but little 00:04:41.389 --> 00:04:45.310 sign little subtle, you know, yeah you And so 00:04:45.310 --> 00:04:47.449 he was opening it up and I was just like no wait, 00:04:47.529 --> 00:04:50.110 hold on I want to film you taking off the other 00:04:50.110 --> 00:04:52.350 one with our name on it and then putting the 00:04:52.350 --> 00:04:59.120 pineapple one Yeah on and it was so stupid Like, 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.720 nasty sweatpants and my ratty shoes. Like, mowing 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.720 sneakers. Yeah. Like, a hoodie or something. 00:05:06.019 --> 00:05:08.879 Yeah, like a gray, like, shirt. Like, I was not 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.620 ready. I was not camera ready. And the grass 00:05:10.620 --> 00:05:13.060 was dead. Everything was brown because it was 00:05:13.060 --> 00:05:17.040 January. Yeah, it was not aesthetically pleasing. 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:19.920 Plus, he had to pick. It was so pixelated because 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.660 he didn't want our last name on social media. 00:05:22.620 --> 00:05:25.279 But we didn't know how to do any of the fancy 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.360 stuff because we'd never done such a media before. 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:33.339 Frame by frame on my phone was blurring out the 00:05:33.339 --> 00:05:36.800 name as it flew through the air. And every time 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.720 it renders, it's just the quality goes down and 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.519 down. It was so bad. And by the time I got done 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:48.500 with it, it was like a 1997 video. So bad. I'm 00:05:48.500 --> 00:05:51.779 not proud of it. you know that was the one that 00:05:51.779 --> 00:05:53.920 that did it that's the one that caught everybody's 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.120 attention and that's the one that i really credit 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.060 for us being who we are and what we are and everything 00:06:01.060 --> 00:06:03.899 and so i do i love it and it means a lot and 00:06:03.899 --> 00:06:06.279 i still don't have the original video because 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:07.759 we ended up losing that account and that was 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.680 before i knew about snap tick or snap talk and 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.180 all the things to copy your videos and so i didn't 00:06:13.180 --> 00:06:16.980 know that so i lost all of the early videos and 00:06:16.980 --> 00:06:21.329 we really didn't understand the hatred on social 00:06:21.329 --> 00:06:23.769 media and the fact that you could just lose your 00:06:23.769 --> 00:06:26.089 accounts and yeah all the videos you've ever 00:06:26.089 --> 00:06:28.730 seen so we never even because we weren't putting 00:06:28.730 --> 00:06:35.550 anything like super risque or sexy on yeah on 00:06:35.550 --> 00:06:39.339 social media so We never thought twice that we 00:06:39.339 --> 00:06:41.439 were going to lose that account. We didn't realize 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.920 that we'd be reported, mass reported constantly. 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.300 And you had to censor every little thing we say 00:06:47.300 --> 00:06:50.100 or do because we're swingers. And they hate us 00:06:50.100 --> 00:06:52.879 out there for some. Still don't understand. Yeah, 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.199 don't understand it. But we're trying to change 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.569 that. That's why we're here. And then. Yeah, 00:06:58.569 --> 00:07:01.709 that video got like 7 million views or whatever. 00:07:01.829 --> 00:07:04.230 That video is the reason why our whole family 00:07:04.230 --> 00:07:06.649 and all of our friends and everyone we've ever 00:07:06.649 --> 00:07:09.850 met knows that we're swingers pretty much. That's 00:07:09.850 --> 00:07:13.509 when Swing Talk. was a thing at that point kind 00:07:13.509 --> 00:07:16.009 of trending and which was most of the reason 00:07:16.009 --> 00:07:18.009 why we put the video on there is because we discovered 00:07:18.009 --> 00:07:19.649 swing talk and there was a whole community of 00:07:19.649 --> 00:07:21.970 people we didn't know anyone in it but we knew 00:07:21.970 --> 00:07:25.149 there was younger people on social media that 00:07:25.149 --> 00:07:27.209 were doing videos we didn't know who they were 00:07:27.209 --> 00:07:29.329 what they were doing yeah we just saw them as 00:07:29.329 --> 00:07:33.089 we were scrolling yeah and i resisted tick tock 00:07:33.089 --> 00:07:36.959 like i didn't really yeah we never really think 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.500 twice that it was going to do anything this these 00:07:39.500 --> 00:07:42.899 videos no like it never thought it was just something 00:07:42.899 --> 00:07:47.860 fun like 20 other swingers and then we when that 00:07:47.860 --> 00:07:51.240 video blew up and everybody found out our knee 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:53.860 -jerk reaction was to run away and hide But at 00:07:53.860 --> 00:07:57.040 that point, everybody already knew. So we pushed 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:58.240 into it like we do. We're not good at lying. 00:07:58.500 --> 00:08:01.040 We're definitely not good at lying. No, we're 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.899 not. I'm the worst liar. You're like the most 00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:06.660 open book you'll ever meet, unfortunately. But 00:08:06.660 --> 00:08:11.300 fortunately. But, yeah, we can't. So, I mean, 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.420 everybody already knew. So we just leaned into 00:08:13.420 --> 00:08:16.639 it. And started making videos. Then, yeah, we 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.980 started just. tik toks i guess they're not real 00:08:19.980 --> 00:08:23.060 videos we got excited you know it was neil it 00:08:23.060 --> 00:08:24.660 was like you're starting to learn how to make 00:08:24.660 --> 00:08:27.500 videos how to create stuff starting to play around 00:08:27.500 --> 00:08:29.600 with different playing around with the app and 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:32.240 getting on the trends and all the things that 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.440 are going on for covet and the dances and all 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:36.759 the things that were good to talk was huge back 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.159 then yeah well because every video we put up 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.899 it was 20 000 views within the first 20 minutes 00:08:44.899 --> 00:08:49.059 those first what Let's say six months on social 00:08:49.059 --> 00:08:51.990 media. That was really easy to get. Hundreds 00:08:51.990 --> 00:08:54.450 of thousands of views. No problem. Barely had 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:57.350 to try. If a video got below 20, they're like, 00:08:57.389 --> 00:08:59.750 oh, that one flopped. Yeah. Yeah. 20 ,000 was 00:08:59.750 --> 00:09:02.809 like, oh man, that stinks. Yeah. Like that was 00:09:02.809 --> 00:09:06.509 shadow banned for sure. Yeah. Which is insane. 00:09:06.629 --> 00:09:08.490 That's how we learned. We're like, oh, we only 00:09:08.490 --> 00:09:12.450 got 15 ,000 views. Like shadow banned. Now we 00:09:12.450 --> 00:09:15.230 know what really shadow banned means. My entire 00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:18.950 account. All the time. Every day. But in this 00:09:18.950 --> 00:09:23.720 timeframe. Our account was getting lots of followers. 00:09:24.100 --> 00:09:30.820 And we hit over the 10K mark within a couple 00:09:30.820 --> 00:09:35.559 weeks. And then it blew up. Within the first 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:40.360 month, month and a half, we had 20 ,000, 30 ,000 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.960 followers on that first account. We only had 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.460 maybe a handful of videos. We weren't posting 00:09:46.460 --> 00:09:48.879 like I do now. It was very sporadic whenever 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.299 I felt like it. It wasn't really that official 00:09:51.299 --> 00:09:53.419 yet. That's when we started going live a little 00:09:53.419 --> 00:09:58.279 bit more, like TikTok lives. And that's how we 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:02.759 got introduced to some other people on social 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.340 media. Yeah, they would pop in and say hi. Interact 00:10:06.340 --> 00:10:10.159 and hi. And that's really when we started meeting 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:14.950 all these other swinger. influencer tiktokers 00:10:14.950 --> 00:10:16.549 what you want to call them and they're all like 00:10:16.549 --> 00:10:19.730 our age and a lot of them are in our area and 00:10:19.730 --> 00:10:22.909 we hadn't really other than trapeze haven't done 00:10:22.909 --> 00:10:26.250 anything lifestyle we hadn't done anything else 00:10:26.250 --> 00:10:31.330 being that it was different in a way that a lot 00:10:31.330 --> 00:10:36.830 of people were in the southeast and we knew mutual 00:10:36.830 --> 00:10:41.759 friends like we knew a lot of mutual people And 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.019 so like we kind of connected in that way. A lot 00:10:45.019 --> 00:10:47.200 of them went to the same club. And so we had 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.700 all really known, yeah, had the same friends, 00:10:49.700 --> 00:10:51.740 known the same people. Yeah. We just hadn't met 00:10:51.740 --> 00:10:54.240 in person yet. Yeah. Yeah. And we'd go back and 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.679 forth. They'd comment on our stuff and then we'd 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.879 be watching their stuff and like and comment. 00:10:58.899 --> 00:11:00.759 You just get to know people on social media. 00:11:00.779 --> 00:11:02.960 I met some of our best friends and closest friends 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:06.200 on social media. Oh yeah. Very thankful for TikTok. 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:11.799 Oh, absolutely. But that's when. Dan from Swing 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.120 Nation reached out to me. Well, he reached out 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.080 to us on the account and said, hey, here's my 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.299 number. Give me a call or text me. I'm trying 00:11:20.299 --> 00:11:24.639 to build this community. And we want to change 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:32.860 the negative stigma. And we need an army to change 00:11:32.860 --> 00:11:35.299 the laws and go to Congress and this and that. 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:40.159 And I ever talked to him for a few days. We kind 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.240 of, you know, bounced it around, didn't really 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.639 take it too serious. And then we decided. I kept 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.080 putting it off. We finally decided, okay, we 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.220 can. It's kind of weird a little bit. We'll just 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:52.620 become influencers with the Swinger Society. 00:11:53.059 --> 00:11:57.179 Yeah. Text with them and talk to them. Yeah. 00:11:57.419 --> 00:12:04.279 And we became influencers. And then. It was a 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.039 very small group of people. It was a very tiny 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.769 handful of people. At that time, it was pretty 00:12:10.769 --> 00:12:13.490 brand new Swinger Society. Yeah, I think when 00:12:13.490 --> 00:12:16.309 we became influencers on the Discord server, 00:12:16.669 --> 00:12:22.289 it was less than 10 ,000 people on there. It 00:12:22.289 --> 00:12:25.210 was very small. It was very small. And Discord 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:27.570 was because we kept getting banned on social 00:12:27.570 --> 00:12:29.070 media and all of us kept losing our accounts. 00:12:29.190 --> 00:12:31.789 It was a good hub for all of our followers and 00:12:31.789 --> 00:12:35.600 us to have all of our... sites on there and all 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.659 of our videos on there and a place for us to 00:12:37.659 --> 00:12:39.779 share without being censored because discord 00:12:39.779 --> 00:12:41.480 you can pretty much do whatever you want you 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.080 can do whatever you want it's a private server 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.620 so you can put whatever you want on there and 00:12:47.620 --> 00:12:50.460 there was a we met some good some really good 00:12:50.460 --> 00:12:53.419 people on there yeah on like off the discord 00:12:53.419 --> 00:12:59.799 server and so we did that and then finally in 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:04.220 the march late march of that year For Dallas' 00:13:04.379 --> 00:13:09.419 birthday. Yep. We finally met a big group of 00:13:09.419 --> 00:13:11.419 influencers. Was it all influencers at the time? 00:13:12.379 --> 00:13:15.159 It could have been. I don't remember. Dan and 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.919 Lacey weren't there. Well, they were. They gave 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.179 trophies, but they didn't. Well, and at this 00:13:18.179 --> 00:13:21.919 time, we had kick messages and Snapchats. Yeah, 00:13:21.940 --> 00:13:23.820 we were very close. We were texting. We were 00:13:23.820 --> 00:13:26.779 texting daily in groups and everything like that. 00:13:27.139 --> 00:13:32.159 And so we made. a group that was going to dallas's 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.539 birthday party yeah they all had airbnb and we 00:13:35.539 --> 00:13:38.240 were staying in all in either hotels or airbnbs 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.580 and stuff and we connected with a couple from 00:13:40.580 --> 00:13:44.059 illinois actually ironically enough and they 00:13:44.059 --> 00:13:46.000 were coming they drove all the way down here 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.759 for it and we stayed at a hotel next to theirs 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:50.879 hung out with them we had never met anybody but 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.000 they had yeah so they were like Such a good group 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:55.759 of people. You're going to have so much fun. 00:13:55.940 --> 00:13:58.179 This is, it's okay. Cause I was so nervous because 00:13:58.179 --> 00:14:00.299 we realized like, all these people are like social 00:14:00.299 --> 00:14:02.500 media. Yeah. They're on social media. They're 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:04.559 like, have like, they've been doing this for 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.000 a second and they, turns out they had only met 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.240 each other like once before that too, but we 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.460 didn't realize how early on we had jumped in 00:14:12.460 --> 00:14:13.940 there. Yeah. We thought they were all like the 00:14:13.940 --> 00:14:16.919 best of friends, but everybody was really pretty. 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.080 Social media based like friendships and stuff. 00:14:20.139 --> 00:14:23.639 And it just felt like. they're so close and but 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.120 we mean we were talking all of the time definitely 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:29.720 looked we felt when we went into it of that were 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.019 the outsiders going into it we still feel and 00:14:33.019 --> 00:14:35.059 we still feel that way like they're outsiders 00:14:35.059 --> 00:14:39.639 and trying to get into the cool kid club looking 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.159 for a fresh way to connect in the lifestyle welcome 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.899 to the playground a modern space where open -minded 00:14:44.899 --> 00:14:47.120 adults meet explore and create unforgettable 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.759 connections built for the lifestyle community 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.620 the playground is where curiosity meets connection 00:14:52.620 --> 00:14:55.700 ready to join the fun click the link below and 00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:57.740 start your adventure with the playground today 00:14:57.740 --> 00:15:06.210 but like she was like oh no it's gonna be great 00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:09.309 it's gonna be fine come on let's do this so she 00:15:09.309 --> 00:15:11.809 took us to the airbnb to meet everybody and it 00:15:11.809 --> 00:15:14.649 was fun we did a bunch of tiktoks and then dj 00:15:14.649 --> 00:15:17.549 life of spice that was before he dj dj'd that 00:15:17.549 --> 00:15:20.429 was when he just fiddled around with the yeah 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:24.149 he had his stuff in the living room of this airbnb 00:15:24.149 --> 00:15:28.649 yeah so i said i've watched you since the very 00:15:28.649 --> 00:15:31.470 very beginning and i'm so proud of how far he's 00:15:31.470 --> 00:15:33.950 come because we used to have him dj all of our 00:15:34.269 --> 00:15:37.149 little house parties and yeah it's good memories 00:15:37.149 --> 00:15:41.470 yeah good times and say everybody there was this 00:15:41.470 --> 00:15:44.370 was when like only fans was really starting to 00:15:44.370 --> 00:15:47.330 so they took sexy pictures everybody was all 00:15:47.330 --> 00:15:49.490 about the only fans that was when they're all 00:15:49.490 --> 00:15:52.629 hyped up about that and that's when i didn't 00:15:52.629 --> 00:15:56.190 even want to be i didn't i was in like one of 00:15:56.190 --> 00:15:58.809 the pictures with just lingerie but i was in 00:15:58.809 --> 00:16:00.370 the very back when you could just see my head 00:16:00.370 --> 00:16:04.220 poking out and i refused to show my boobs I'm 00:16:04.220 --> 00:16:07.220 just now really starting to actually be there 00:16:07.220 --> 00:16:09.200 for those pictures and still in the back, still 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:13.000 trying to hide. But yeah. And then we went to 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:16.539 that birthday party. It was insane. Yeah. Yeah. 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.039 There's a lot. The birthday party is the reason 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:20.419 why we're so close to the Reconference. So close 00:16:20.419 --> 00:16:23.179 to the Reconference. Yeah. Because. Saved her 00:16:23.179 --> 00:16:26.440 life. Yeah. Yeah. There was. Saved them. There 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.720 was a whole thing that was going on and. So they 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.940 are into the BDSM. And they have a dynamic. And 00:16:34.940 --> 00:16:38.639 he felt disrespected. And it was a thing. And 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.500 I said, okay, hold on. This is our forte. And 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:44.179 Dallas still brings it up. She's like, I still 00:16:44.179 --> 00:16:48.259 remember when you said, you're at it. eight i 00:16:48.259 --> 00:16:51.240 need you down at a six and she still credits 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.519 him for saving them and her and yeah it was intense 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.980 it was but we it happened so easily just because 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:01.639 we all felt like we knew each other because we 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.339 had talked daily all of the time it does we when 00:17:05.339 --> 00:17:07.460 you're live together you see we saw each other 00:17:07.460 --> 00:17:09.680 every day even if we didn't talk every day we 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.220 saw each other's faces every day yeah you do 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:16.710 feel like you're close and that's why we sometimes 00:17:16.710 --> 00:17:19.910 we accidentally offend people nowadays because 00:17:19.910 --> 00:17:23.789 they feel like they know us yeah yeah and and 00:17:23.789 --> 00:17:26.650 we might interact with them on social media but 00:17:26.650 --> 00:17:29.589 we don't necessarily know your face yet or know 00:17:29.589 --> 00:17:32.250 you as a person as a handle or like a nickname 00:17:32.250 --> 00:17:34.289 and so sometimes we hurt some feelings because 00:17:34.289 --> 00:17:37.109 we don't know exactly who they are yeah but at 00:17:37.109 --> 00:17:39.230 this time the group was so small yeah it was 00:17:39.230 --> 00:17:41.809 a very tiny little corner and on tiktok land 00:17:41.809 --> 00:17:46.769 and we saw each other daily we comment on everybody's 00:17:46.769 --> 00:17:50.509 videos daily we were kicked every day somebody 00:17:50.509 --> 00:17:54.250 was going alive and we were in there and we had 00:17:54.250 --> 00:18:03.470 kicked messages and snapchat yeah and then that 00:18:03.470 --> 00:18:05.190 video oh and then the next and then we went to 00:18:05.190 --> 00:18:07.170 six flags that's where i got this shirt actually 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:09.069 ironically yeah put it on and i was like this 00:18:09.069 --> 00:18:11.930 is actually the shirt that we got the day after 00:18:11.930 --> 00:18:15.150 we went with A whole bunch of people in the Swinger 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:19.450 Society. Yeah. Our tight crew, we went, and that 00:18:19.450 --> 00:18:22.789 was so much fun. We were all hungover, all just 00:18:22.789 --> 00:18:26.049 completely exhausted, and we went so slowly. 00:18:26.460 --> 00:18:28.440 Through Six Flags. It was chilly. It was pretty 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.500 cold. Yeah, it was March at Six Flags. So the 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:32.559 crowds, like the lines were short. There was 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.319 no one there at all. We just could ride when 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:35.279 we felt. It was actually a perfect day. Yeah, 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:36.859 it was so good. We could ride whenever we wanted, 00:18:37.019 --> 00:18:38.680 whenever we wanted. Some of us would just go 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.000 shopping. Other ones were going on things together. 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.420 And it was a really good crew. And we walked 00:18:44.420 --> 00:18:46.400 around with our Swinger Society flag, took pictures, 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:51.869 and it was a good vanilla chill. adult day at 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:54.589 six five yeah we need to do that again we just 00:18:54.589 --> 00:18:56.970 talked about that too oh yeah we did we're like 00:18:56.970 --> 00:18:58.910 yeah it was so good we need to do that we need 00:18:58.910 --> 00:19:02.630 to do that yeah yeah but that's where it kind 00:19:02.630 --> 00:19:04.890 of started really began and then from then on 00:19:04.890 --> 00:19:07.849 we were seeing each other monthly at least if 00:19:07.849 --> 00:19:11.109 not two yeah three times a month well that night 00:19:11.109 --> 00:19:13.609 of trap dan and lacy said they weren't going 00:19:13.609 --> 00:19:16.339 to come And then they ended up showing up like 00:19:16.339 --> 00:19:19.480 last minute. Last minute, I believe Lacey talked 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:24.339 Dan into making the drive. And that was the first 00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:27.160 time we actually met Dan and Lacey in person. 00:19:27.339 --> 00:19:31.799 Like after all the texting and messages, that 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:33.460 was the first time we saw them face to face. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:38.880 And it was, we had fun that night, but they, 00:19:39.019 --> 00:19:41.359 everybody that night, I remember this, I'm still. 00:19:41.710 --> 00:19:44.970 it was a proud daddy moment for me to you was 00:19:44.970 --> 00:19:50.029 everybody was so shy because they felt like and 00:19:50.029 --> 00:19:53.890 so there if you've ever been at trapeze there's 00:19:53.890 --> 00:19:55.750 a dance floor and then there's a couple stairs 00:19:55.750 --> 00:19:57.670 there's like a back that no one ever sits in 00:19:57.670 --> 00:20:01.309 room with like chairs and stuff and everybody 00:20:01.309 --> 00:20:04.910 was hanging out every single person was sitting 00:20:04.910 --> 00:20:07.569 back there just not even talking to each other, 00:20:07.609 --> 00:20:11.230 just sitting there. And I was so hyped up for 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:13.769 so long. And I was so excited to meet all of 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:17.410 these like professional swingers, which I thought 00:20:17.410 --> 00:20:18.970 at the time they were professional swingers. 00:20:18.970 --> 00:20:21.450 And I was so bummed because I thought we would 00:20:21.450 --> 00:20:24.640 be dancing. I thought it'd be like. sex i thought 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.779 it'd be like something because at this point 00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:29.839 we're at trapeze every couple it was at home 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.039 i felt very safe there i felt really at home 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.099 and what i do at trapeze is dance that's that's 00:20:34.099 --> 00:20:36.299 my place to dance and we were out there and no 00:20:36.299 --> 00:20:39.059 one was dancing no one was flirting no one was 00:20:39.059 --> 00:20:43.579 doing literally anything at all yeah i was so 00:20:43.579 --> 00:20:45.940 upset and so i ran around the room and was like 00:20:45.940 --> 00:20:49.369 get the fuck up I was like, we're going to be 00:20:49.369 --> 00:20:51.690 fucking swingers. Let's be fucking swingers. 00:20:51.730 --> 00:20:54.430 And I was just hyping everybody walking around 00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:56.730 the room. And you got everybody out on the dance 00:20:56.730 --> 00:20:59.609 floor. I pulled everyone out and I kickstarted 00:20:59.609 --> 00:21:01.529 the entire party. And I was pretty proud of myself 00:21:01.529 --> 00:21:04.250 because everyone's being really weird and shy 00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:07.369 and awkward. And I was like, we're fucking swingers. 00:21:07.869 --> 00:21:10.029 What are you doing sitting down? Everyone, stand 00:21:10.029 --> 00:21:12.529 up. Stand up. I'll make everyone stand. You got 00:21:12.529 --> 00:21:15.069 bossy all of a sudden. Yeah, I don't know. I 00:21:15.069 --> 00:21:18.190 was feeling some sort of way. But it worked. 00:21:18.250 --> 00:21:19.609 Everybody got on the dance floor. Because I was 00:21:19.609 --> 00:21:22.109 so excited. And everyone was just sitting. That 00:21:22.109 --> 00:21:24.490 kind of really started the night, honestly. Yeah, 00:21:24.490 --> 00:21:26.450 it started the spankings. Everybody started giving 00:21:26.450 --> 00:21:31.069 Dallas spankings for her birthday. And everybody 00:21:31.069 --> 00:21:33.230 started getting on the dance floor, which brought 00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:35.329 everyone else on the dance floor and started 00:21:35.329 --> 00:21:38.910 the night. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot about that. It 00:21:38.910 --> 00:21:40.630 was a good night. I don't know what got into 00:21:40.630 --> 00:21:43.670 me that night, but I'm glad I did. But then that 00:21:43.670 --> 00:21:45.970 night ended and we went, you know, Six Flags. 00:21:45.990 --> 00:21:49.869 Had a great time at Six Flags. And then the next 00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:54.130 time we saw anybody in the group was the mansion 00:21:54.130 --> 00:21:59.970 party. And shortly after that trapeze, we got 00:21:59.970 --> 00:22:04.029 a text message from Dan. It said, hey, I'm renting 00:22:04.029 --> 00:22:08.079 a mansion. I'm trying to find 10 couples. this 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.700 is how much it is and we're all going to be content 00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:14.960 creators because at this point you had only fans 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.720 you just weren't really used to it yeah i'll 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.579 still on the fence it's like we can make content 00:22:19.579 --> 00:22:22.819 and then we're going to have a party with just 00:22:22.819 --> 00:22:26.539 us at the house i'm gonna go party and then the 00:22:26.539 --> 00:22:29.740 saturday night we'll all go to trapeze and it's 00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:32.000 going to be great we're like all right let's 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.160 go we're so down So we gave him the money, and 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.940 then we showed up to this wish mansion off of 00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:44.200 wish .com. Yeah. We thought it was a mansion, 00:22:44.420 --> 00:22:46.900 but we didn't know any details about it. And 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:49.539 so we got there, and it was the guest home to 00:22:49.539 --> 00:22:53.039 a mansion. Yeah. And we had just a guest house. 00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:57.500 It was a big house. It had lots of room. We were 00:22:57.500 --> 00:22:59.819 sharing rooms with strangers. Yeah, we ended 00:22:59.819 --> 00:23:01.700 up having to pick rooms. We were like one of 00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:03.680 the last ones there. So it was either a room 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.279 with a bunch of strangers or a room with just 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:12.380 one couple. And we had the bed and they had the 00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:14.839 bunk bed. Yeah, it was like, yeah. And we had 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:19.180 never met these people before. And it was in 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:22.720 the basement and we had no electricity. Yeah, 00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:24.839 there was no electricity in this room. There 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.180 was no light. It was bad. We ended up plugging 00:23:28.180 --> 00:23:30.559 our ring light and then turning it on for light. 00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:33.000 Yeah, that was our only light. No electricity. 00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:39.019 And then all the furniture was breaking. broke 00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:41.599 a bed we broke like there we broke a bunch yeah 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.319 yeah not on purpose no like it was literally 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:45.759 just sitting on things it didn't really break 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.660 like they just wasn't put together really well 00:23:47.660 --> 00:23:50.319 it was and so on the bed this wooden slats would 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.160 just slide out and the mattress just falls under 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:58.900 the floor like yeah their bed was like this it 00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:01.440 was so bad but that was the first time we actually 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:05.480 spent like time time with a lot of these people 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:13.960 and that was the first time honestly we kind 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.980 of felt a certain sort of way because we felt 00:24:17.980 --> 00:24:22.059 left out i guess they it ended up turning into 00:24:22.059 --> 00:24:25.119 a big content orgy and i was definitely on the 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.140 fence about it yeah and we ended up sitting outside 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:31.910 with a couple guys that were there yeah and just 00:24:31.910 --> 00:24:35.069 hanging out talking yeah like we had fun but 00:24:35.069 --> 00:24:39.349 like it really started we realized how much focus 00:24:39.349 --> 00:24:42.750 was on only fans i knew people had only fans 00:24:42.750 --> 00:24:44.809 i knew that was a thing i knew we liked showing 00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:47.349 off i knew we liked being sexy we're in lingerie 00:24:47.349 --> 00:24:49.650 taking pictures but i didn't realize how much 00:24:49.650 --> 00:24:52.829 like the whole weekend was supposed to be about 00:24:52.829 --> 00:24:55.029 only fans i guess i was really surprised by that 00:24:55.029 --> 00:24:59.430 we were i guess i with this group i guess we're 00:24:59.430 --> 00:25:03.599 too honest Because we said that, oh, OnlyFans 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.480 is fun, but we don't make content the first time 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.779 with other people. The first time we swap with 00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:12.460 other people, it's not for content. No, we don't 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:15.160 schedule sex ever. It's just not a thing we've 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:19.180 ever done. And that's just how we do it. And 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:21.460 that's how we still do it, honestly. Yeah, still 00:25:21.460 --> 00:25:24.220 do. And that kind of changed, I think, everything. 00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.900 yeah i think they kind of changed our dynamic 00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:31.079 with everyone and stuff and they realized that 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.599 we were not we're there for a good time and spending 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.839 time with people and not to make money yeah we 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:38.460 were really excited to be with our friends and 00:25:38.460 --> 00:25:41.759 be included in our friend weekend with our friends 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.319 and i knew we were taking pictures and it'd be 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.519 sexy and it'd be fun and stuff like that would 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.200 be lingerie and i knew there'd be some playing 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.099 and stuff but i didn't realize it was going to 00:25:51.099 --> 00:25:54.920 be content orgy During the day, people had scheduled 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.119 times to just make content. They were like, we 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.660 have this room from this time to this time. Yeah, 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:05.500 it was very, very, very content focused, which 00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:07.460 we didn't realize going into it. It was going 00:26:07.460 --> 00:26:09.680 to be like that. We knew if something happens, 00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.079 if we film it. and that's i mean that's always 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.539 been kind of how we've done content and only 00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:17.539 fans but nothing on our pages ever scheduled 00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:20.000 or collab we've never done a collab with anyone 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.839 everything has been organically you want to bring 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.099 the camera out in the moment and very you know 00:26:25.099 --> 00:26:27.599 low quality yeah because it is like fly on the 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.200 wall yeah just put up because we want to show 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.000 off in front of the camera and so record it for 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.140 our memories mostly in that weekend we had a 00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:39.680 lot of intimate like fun friend moments as people 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.299 yeah and we got close to a few couples that and 00:26:43.299 --> 00:26:45.720 it like it was a good weekend overall it was 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.059 just kind of everything kind of shifted a little 00:26:48.059 --> 00:26:53.670 bit we started to realize everybody's Hey there, 00:26:53.690 --> 00:26:55.849 listeners. 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We wanted to 00:27:45.529 --> 00:27:48.380 go make. as many friends as we possibly could 00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:50.700 and bring them to the discord so we could all 00:27:50.700 --> 00:27:54.019 as an army make big changes and do big things 00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:57.359 and find as many of us as we possibly could the 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.859 more the better and that was like our purpose 00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:03.039 for the first year we traveled to country with 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.460 them and we i mean every month at least once 00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:07.440 a month if not twice a month we would be together 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.839 yeah from then on for the first year year and 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:13.539 a half we spent traveling we went to naughty 00:28:13.539 --> 00:28:16.740 new orleans we spent Pretty much every minute 00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:20.579 together. Every available weekend we had. Stayed 00:28:20.579 --> 00:28:22.779 up till 4 a .m. talking about life and death 00:28:22.779 --> 00:28:25.680 and all the things in between. And got really 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:31.519 close to people. And we went to Dallas with them. 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.819 Drove like 15 hours and went to Dallas. And we 00:28:34.819 --> 00:28:37.690 spent the weekend there. the whole weekend with 00:28:37.690 --> 00:28:39.950 them. We went to, where else did we go to? Red 00:28:39.950 --> 00:28:44.210 Room. Yeah, Red Room in Nashville, Pigeon Forge. 00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:46.910 Yeah, Pigeon Forge we did with Eye Candy. We 00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:52.049 did Secrets twice. Yeah, plus Trapeze in between. 00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:55.470 And Trapeze in between. Yeah. And we were getting 00:28:55.470 --> 00:28:57.769 together all of the time just to hang out and 00:28:57.769 --> 00:29:00.509 we would meet places and hang out with people 00:29:00.509 --> 00:29:02.549 and got really close. You can't help but get 00:29:02.549 --> 00:29:05.029 really close when you... We went to Splash with 00:29:05.029 --> 00:29:09.289 them, too. Yeah, there's been some. I forget. 00:29:09.630 --> 00:29:13.710 We literally, that first. We went hard that first 00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:17.369 year. Spring and summer, we were at least once 00:29:17.369 --> 00:29:20.670 a month going somewhere. Nonstop, yeah. To an 00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:22.829 event. To an event. At least once a month. Yeah. 00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:24.930 And it was, I mean, every few weeks we were. 00:29:25.069 --> 00:29:27.650 And it was all with the same people. Yeah. And 00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:32.299 we got close. Yeah. Yeah, we thought we were 00:29:32.299 --> 00:29:35.180 close. We've always been fighting since the very 00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:38.500 beginning to just be accepted and just to be 00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:42.119 included. Not even accepted, just included. Yeah, 00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.339 that's a good... We're always put on the back 00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:48.779 burner. There's a lot of people within that group 00:29:48.779 --> 00:29:51.240 that don't even know our handle. They have not 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.059 even bothered to know what our handle is and 00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:57.440 what our screen names are and what our... t -shirts 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:01.460 say and what our podcast is we have a lot of 00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:05.660 people that consider us still new and still less 00:30:05.660 --> 00:30:10.259 than we're treated less than and that's the problem 00:30:10.259 --> 00:30:13.900 and the social media unfortunately and businesses 00:30:13.900 --> 00:30:16.599 involved and people starting their own businesses 00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.460 and stuff it somewhere along the lines turned 00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:21.599 into a competition that's not the type of people 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.319 we are not at all and people don't like that 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.160 No. We're going to tell you how we feel. Yeah. 00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:31.640 It's a curse and a blessing. Yeah. We're going 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.220 to tell you how we feel. And when people talk 00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:38.319 to us in confidence, it stays with us. It stays 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.160 with us. And there's always been, you're only 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.619 allowed to know so many things and be told so 00:30:43.619 --> 00:30:46.140 many things because it's this fear of us always 00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:48.539 going and telling people things, I think, that 00:30:48.539 --> 00:30:52.470 holds a big part of it. is that this fear that 00:30:52.470 --> 00:30:54.470 we're going to go out and because in the past 00:30:54.470 --> 00:30:56.690 there's been there's been people that swing talk 00:30:56.690 --> 00:31:00.970 unfortunately people go and do crazy things and 00:31:00.970 --> 00:31:03.930 go off and make up stories or they go and elaborate 00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:06.150 stories or they go tell these stories and these 00:31:06.150 --> 00:31:08.470 intimate details about stuff and I understand 00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:12.869 you know being cautious but like four years and 00:31:12.869 --> 00:31:15.509 traveling and having close relationships with 00:31:15.509 --> 00:31:19.250 people yeah And still never letting you in ever. 00:31:19.549 --> 00:31:22.829 Well, I think the worst part for me personally 00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:28.230 is we thought we were close. That's right. That's 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.410 right. And then once you realize it was. And 00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:35.150 then when you we weren't making all the content 00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:38.170 and stuff like that, we realized, oh, so we weren't 00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:41.640 actually. we're not friends like or just acquaintances 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.140 like we just are on social media at the same 00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:47.440 time because i thought we had good moments and 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.220 we're really close i thought we were really really 00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:53.640 close i'm like birthdays holidays any events 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.720 that are happening always have still tried to 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.059 reach out and yeah keep in touch and try to like 00:32:00.059 --> 00:32:03.180 connect and stuff and at some point a wall went 00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:07.279 up and i don't know if it was because we Stay 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.759 friends with other people that I think that has 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.079 a lot to do with it I think that we are not gonna 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.720 not be friends with someone just because you 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.640 have a bad experience with those people I will 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.920 keep that in mind and I will be cautious of that 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:20.200 but I always give everyone the benefit of the 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.839 doubt and I really try to include everyone and 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.880 I really if they've never done anything to me 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.960 I have no reason to not be friends with them. 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.660 Yeah, and I honestly do want to be friends with 00:32:29.660 --> 00:32:34.039 everyone and It's one of my you know, my problems 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.089 that I have I think yeah, but I don't Really, 00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:39.869 I don't hate people or don't dislike people just 00:32:39.869 --> 00:32:43.410 because someone else doesn't like them. Especially 00:32:43.410 --> 00:32:45.569 when I don't think that the reason that they're 00:32:45.569 --> 00:32:49.250 not friends or it has nothing to do with me. 00:32:49.329 --> 00:32:52.150 It has nothing to do with us. It's more of a 00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:55.710 personal thing. I think there's always a fear 00:32:55.710 --> 00:33:01.369 of just slandering and talking about stuff when 00:33:01.369 --> 00:33:03.210 there's nothing that ever really happened. It's 00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:06.559 never like nothing happened. Yeah. It was just 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.559 a wall that was put up. Yeah. And it was out 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.160 of their fear. Yeah. And they had been burned. 00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:15.480 Yeah. And I completely get that. And I understand 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.039 that. But we showed nothing but love and support. 00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:23.660 And we have continuously been there and showed 00:33:23.660 --> 00:33:27.700 up and worked my ass off. I've worked my ass 00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:32.240 off every day for the past four years for a mission 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.740 and for a community. for something that I thought 00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:39.420 that we were all in it for. And especially the 00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:44.220 past year, that community that we worked hard 00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:48.619 with all these other people to build has been 00:33:48.619 --> 00:33:50.539 put on the back burner. Yeah, and then for the 00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:54.359 last year, it's been pretty much no communication. 00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.400 No. Nothing at all. I think especially we're 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.859 in the same space. it's especially now because 00:34:05.859 --> 00:34:09.739 before a couple of our friends are the only ones 00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:12.699 with podcasts yeah they were the lifestyle podcasts 00:34:12.699 --> 00:34:16.960 and we want to podcast because we wanted a space 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.239 where we aren't censored where we can talk and 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.360 where we can open and it just became more of 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.840 again this competition and this numbers game 00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:32.619 and money unfortunately money really tainted 00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:36.260 all of it I think that really was where it all 00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:40.199 went wrong. Um, this has never really made us 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:45.119 any money ever. We make like scraps for a couple 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.619 of codes that we sometimes people use and stuff. 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.059 And the effort that we've done for the last four 00:34:51.059 --> 00:34:55.039 years, I post at least I post multiple times 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.429 a day. every single day for four years and make 00:34:59.429 --> 00:35:02.269 content and do a podcast and literally for the 00:35:02.269 --> 00:35:05.670 community and for it's all a love project it's 00:35:05.670 --> 00:35:08.230 definitely a passion project it's a love thing 00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:11.889 it's a heart thing and we are just on two totally 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:16.309 different it's okay that's okay we have two totally 00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:19.190 different but i just i guess for this last especially 00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:21.170 a few months have just realized that we just 00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:24.170 are on different paths and we're just not on 00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:26.670 the same i thought that we were in this for the 00:35:26.670 --> 00:35:30.369 same reason and we're not and that's okay and 00:35:30.369 --> 00:35:32.829 there's no hard feelings i'm not mad at anybody 00:35:32.829 --> 00:35:36.170 and that's what but i've taken a step back obviously 00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:42.469 it's very i mean apparent and i at this point 00:35:42.469 --> 00:35:45.670 it's hurting more than you more than it's helping 00:35:45.670 --> 00:35:50.909 and well at this point it's i'm torn because 00:35:50.909 --> 00:35:56.800 of i'm still holding on to what we used to have 00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:01.420 i know it was so good and beautiful yeah and 00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:04.400 i want and it'll never be like that again i know 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.300 it'll never be like that again and i don't know 00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:12.340 it's just so i mean whoever unfortunately it 00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:16.639 was anyone on social media and anyone that wanted 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.500 to be an influencer a host and it was whoever 00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:24.519 gets the most views Yeah, it turned into a competition. 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.360 Whoever has potential to make the best TikToks. 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.460 And whoever has the potential to make the best 00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:36.019 OnlyFans content. TikTok is fun. And the videos 00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:40.480 are cute. And the OnlyFans is hot. And it's, 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.210 you know, fun. to take pictures of myself when 00:36:43.210 --> 00:36:45.650 I feel myself. I just wish more people would 00:36:45.650 --> 00:36:48.889 own what it is that they are doing and their 00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:52.650 mission and what their passion is within the 00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:57.929 space. And ours is to end the stigma and to get 00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:00.909 rid of all of the myths and misconceptions and 00:37:00.909 --> 00:37:04.110 lies about it and show people that we are normal, 00:37:04.150 --> 00:37:08.000 regular, everyday. people with kids and regular 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.559 lives 99 % of the time yeah and we like to have 00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.900 fun together the rare times that we get away 00:37:13.900 --> 00:37:16.400 and our kids are getting older and we're having 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.119 more space and more freedom and we can take trips 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:23.019 together and we can have time together and well 00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:27.579 we realize that and the kind of reason social 00:37:27.579 --> 00:37:32.179 media is so powerful is there's such a stigma 00:37:32.179 --> 00:37:36.800 behind it The only way people are going to get 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.980 over it and it to be more normalized is exposure 00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:43.519 to it. Yeah. The more they see it. We see all 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.179 the hate comments and everything we get every 00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:52.800 day. Every day. But the more people are exposed 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.000 to the normalcy of the lifestyle. Yeah. That's 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.380 why I most like my content is really just this 00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:04.500 is not true. This is a lie. This is the stuff 00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:07.059 you think, but here's what it really is and educate 00:38:07.059 --> 00:38:09.599 them a little bit. We're not trying to recruit 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.619 swingers, which is a big, I get all the time. 00:38:12.619 --> 00:38:14.000 We're just trying to make it. Don't tell them 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:15.880 about the lifestyle. We don't want them here 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.099 and stuff. But you know how many people have 00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:20.559 seen our videos and have walked up to us and 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.739 told us that we've changed their entire lives. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.210 Yeah. That we had no idea and now they're... 00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:28.670 This is exactly what we wanted and this has changed 00:38:28.670 --> 00:38:30.909 everything. It has enhanced our marriage, our 00:38:30.909 --> 00:38:34.010 life. Our communication. Everything. And I'm 00:38:34.010 --> 00:38:37.010 happy for the first time in 30 years, 20 years. 00:38:37.090 --> 00:38:39.670 We have never been this happy. Yeah. We're on 00:38:39.670 --> 00:38:42.969 the brink of... separating or divorce because 00:38:42.969 --> 00:38:44.570 we wouldn't talk to each other but we wanted 00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:46.510 the same thing and had no idea because we didn't 00:38:46.510 --> 00:38:49.349 even know where to begin and we saw a video of 00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:51.929 yours and it sparked a conversation and anytime 00:38:51.929 --> 00:38:54.130 that i feel like giving up and the 20th account 00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:56.650 gets shut down and we're starting from scratch 00:38:56.650 --> 00:39:00.210 all over again and mondays and tuesdays and wednesdays 00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:03.210 when we have the new content and every single 00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:05.409 day of our life that we have to come up with 00:39:05.409 --> 00:39:09.860 new stories and new ideas and everything that 00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:12.380 is what i always think of in the back of my head 00:39:12.380 --> 00:39:14.300 it's just how many people are out there i see 00:39:14.300 --> 00:39:17.920 how the universe puts those people right in front 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.420 of us at the most opportune times yeah like it's 00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:24.599 we'd be like on the fence like you know like 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.619 this is a lot of work is it worth it we just 00:39:27.619 --> 00:39:30.260 people just hate us no one wants to see it i'm 00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:32.840 ready to we're losing accounts left and right 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.980 like we're on the brink of it just not doing 00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:42.000 it and then we'll get an experience or an email 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:46.280 or meet someone at an event that just reinvigorates 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.820 why we do it like we just have to be reminded 00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:53.059 sometimes and it's crazy how the yeah i usually 00:39:53.059 --> 00:39:54.760 here lately i've been getting it while we're 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.980 all together with our friends at like events 00:39:56.980 --> 00:39:58.699 and stuff like at the club when i was crying 00:39:58.699 --> 00:40:01.320 that was a big moment of like this is why this 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.019 these people are why this is what i'm this is 00:40:04.019 --> 00:40:06.079 my whole mission and then like at the glow party 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.000 i had to really i broke down and Just looking 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.940 around at the amount of people that were there 00:40:11.940 --> 00:40:15.019 and like 60 % of them are brand new, have never 00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:18.539 been to any event ever. And that's insane. And 00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:21.179 so many people that are still out there that 00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:24.460 have no idea this exists and they have no clue 00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:28.679 that this whole community of people and it's 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.440 full of, we've searched our whole entire lives 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.619 for people like this. Yeah. We have talked about 00:40:34.619 --> 00:40:37.159 this since we were in our early twenties. been 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.860 dreaming and fantasizing and wishing for a group 00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:42.320 of people in a community that could understand 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.920 us could love us that just gets it yeah and now 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.760 we have so many people that just get it and we've 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.340 said that a million times we just want people 00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:53.780 in our life that get it yeah understand what 00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:55.760 it's like to be in love that's that's what we've 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.219 always said we just want people on our level 00:40:58.219 --> 00:41:01.579 yeah to understand what life is about and what 00:41:01.579 --> 00:41:04.250 you want out of life and being in love with your 00:41:04.250 --> 00:41:07.150 spouse and it being a good thing because unfortunately 00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:10.309 we've always been outcasted because we liked 00:41:10.309 --> 00:41:12.429 each other because we'd rather be together than 00:41:12.429 --> 00:41:17.409 go to a bar or hang out with other men and women 00:41:17.409 --> 00:41:21.849 alone or whatever it's not my idea of a good 00:41:21.849 --> 00:41:25.010 night when i'm with a whole bunch of guys all 00:41:25.010 --> 00:41:28.070 they do is complain about their spouses yeah 00:41:28.070 --> 00:41:33.219 yeah or partners and not having sex or joking 00:41:33.219 --> 00:41:35.579 around that oh it's almost my birthday time for 00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:38.000 a blow job yeah my annual blow job like wait 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.039 a minute like we just never could relate or connect 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.679 to people like we have do you guys have sex like 00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:50.519 i'm sorry can't relate and i actually want to 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.159 go home and hang out on the couch and watch tv 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.900 with my husband like what you don't want to go 00:41:56.900 --> 00:42:00.400 to the club the bar the whatever nah like we've 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.059 always been outcasted for that even when we go 00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:07.139 places like for an event a lifestyle event we 00:42:07.139 --> 00:42:10.820 have always have that moment like before we get 00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:13.840 ready like i could nap we could just stay here 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.340 and just hang out in the hotel room and watch 00:42:16.340 --> 00:42:20.019 netflix and yeah we've always been pretty content 00:42:20.019 --> 00:42:23.539 with we don't have to go being together and everyone 00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:26.000 always talks shit about us and we never could 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.920 find couples that got it and now we can find 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.239 couples to do that together with and it has changed 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:37.440 our entire life just being yeah the conversations 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.639 that you get into in this lifestyle with other 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.599 people are so deep and meaningful and there's 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.179 no masks up you can just be yourself and yeah 00:42:47.179 --> 00:42:50.599 if you know you know yeah it's just good it's 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.500 good you have just i don't know i love you guys 00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.519 I love this lifestyle more than I can even explain. 00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:01.940 Hey, beautiful. 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And so, you know, we're going to be cutting 00:43:39.489 --> 00:43:41.389 ties with a lot of people that just it just does 00:43:41.389 --> 00:43:44.449 not align with what our mission is and what our 00:43:44.449 --> 00:43:46.489 purpose is. And that's OK. And there's no hard 00:43:46.489 --> 00:43:49.650 feelings. It's lessons learned. And we're grateful 00:43:49.650 --> 00:43:52.980 for all of those relationships. And those experiences 00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:57.980 we've shared. We will forever support everyone. 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:04.079 I have always supported, done nothing, but support 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:11.400 everyone. But I've not felt supported very, very 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:18.039 much. I've never really had anyone cheering me 00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.119 on quite as loud as I cheer on a lot of people. 00:44:20.909 --> 00:44:24.489 and he's there too but he's there for like like 00:44:24.489 --> 00:44:26.550 the podcast you finally get to see him but for 00:44:26.550 --> 00:44:28.710 the most part you haven't seen him for about 00:44:28.710 --> 00:44:31.070 a year so he's really been career focused and 00:44:31.070 --> 00:44:33.150 not kind of been in the back burner and maybe 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:36.889 three tiktoks this past year with him in it it's 00:44:36.889 --> 00:44:39.570 been me yeah because i used to have been my own 00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:42.150 tiktoks and this and that and i hate saying me 00:44:42.150 --> 00:44:45.170 but content me content social media and talking 00:44:45.170 --> 00:44:48.030 about that it is me everything you see is me 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.579 I wake up every morning with what can I make 00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:52.699 next? What can I do? How can I touch people? 00:44:55.139 --> 00:45:00.739 It's hard. Because I've not had a voice very 00:45:00.739 --> 00:45:03.019 much, even though it's been me every day talking. 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.239 I've had to keep up. I feel like it's constant 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:11.079 competition. It's a constant numbers game. It's 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.059 a constant algorithm that I'm having to fight. 00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:17.039 A computer. It's the constant hate that I get 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:23.699 all day. Every day. I never feel good enough. 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.619 I never feel like I belong. And we're re -evaluating 00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:32.400 a lot of stuff this year. And 2025 is our year. 00:45:32.579 --> 00:45:36.099 We are that hot couple in GA. That's what we 00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:41.719 are. We are lifestyle hosts. We love supporting 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:45.000 our friends. That's literally what we've done 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.099 since day one. We have hosted for everyone. We 00:45:48.099 --> 00:45:53.880 have had affiliate codes. We've made no money 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.860 doing it. We don't need money doing it. I just 00:45:56.860 --> 00:45:59.139 want everyone to thrive. I just want everyone 00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:02.300 to also find their people and find the couples 00:46:02.300 --> 00:46:04.480 that they touch and change lives. I want to change 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.900 lives. I think if we all do it together, we could 00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:12.309 change the world. We could change laws. There's 00:46:12.309 --> 00:46:14.469 no reason. Yeah, but we're not going to do that 00:46:14.469 --> 00:46:17.289 if we continue this path. And we just keep on 00:46:17.289 --> 00:46:19.949 being like silenced and pushed aside and have 00:46:19.949 --> 00:46:23.730 to put ourselves in this little box and be scared 00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:26.949 to say what we feel and what we want to say. 00:46:27.170 --> 00:46:32.389 Yeah. And a lot of it's hurting our mission and 00:46:32.389 --> 00:46:34.369 we're reevaluating the things that we associate 00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:36.409 ourself with, the people that we associate ourself 00:46:36.409 --> 00:46:41.260 with. I got no hard feelings. It's not, I just 00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:43.500 don't, it's not a competition. It's a collaboration. 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.219 And I know it sounds so cheesy and cliche and 00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:48.559 everything, but that's what we've believed. And 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:50.920 I've never strayed from that. And I still will 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:56.280 continue to be there if anyone needs me. But 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:59.360 we're just on a different path than a lot of 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:05.789 people. Yeah. And we... are our own thing and 00:47:05.789 --> 00:47:11.150 we've never owned what we are at all yeah no 00:47:11.150 --> 00:47:15.869 we've always been like the like the i don't know 00:47:15.869 --> 00:47:18.730 how to put it we're never the main attraction 00:47:18.730 --> 00:47:22.110 when we we're always the last thought like oh 00:47:22.110 --> 00:47:23.690 yeah maybe we should say something to ashley 00:47:23.690 --> 00:47:26.210 and ross about it oh yeah maybe we should include 00:47:26.210 --> 00:47:29.389 them or oh yeah someone mentioned that we should 00:47:29.389 --> 00:47:34.550 probably tell you I don't understand why we have 00:47:34.550 --> 00:47:38.190 to keep on fighting for this. I think what's 00:47:38.190 --> 00:47:42.269 her source is we were that at one point. That's 00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:45.809 how it used to be. Now I'm like, can I please 00:47:45.809 --> 00:47:48.130 be included in one picture per year? And then 00:47:48.130 --> 00:47:51.690 I'm always in the back trying to fight my way 00:47:51.690 --> 00:47:58.050 to get half of my face shown. And I don't know 00:47:58.050 --> 00:48:03.170 why. I don't know. I don't know what I did. I 00:48:03.170 --> 00:48:05.510 don't know what I did because there has been 00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:08.789 people that have done nothing but do bad things 00:48:08.789 --> 00:48:12.710 and say bad things and talked bad and didn't 00:48:12.710 --> 00:48:14.929 go in with it with good intentions that have 00:48:14.929 --> 00:48:20.630 been held up so high. Like, no one takes me seriously. 00:48:20.989 --> 00:48:23.769 Yeah. No one considers me. I'm never included. 00:48:23.809 --> 00:48:27.230 I just want to be, like, feel validated that 00:48:27.230 --> 00:48:31.750 we also matter. i'd like to even be considered 00:48:31.750 --> 00:48:35.289 yeah and i hate saying me again i hate saying 00:48:35.289 --> 00:48:37.150 me and i because i know it's the hot couple in 00:48:37.150 --> 00:48:40.670 ga and it's ashley and ross but what we're talking 00:48:40.670 --> 00:48:43.369 about in the social media aspect and the videos 00:48:43.369 --> 00:48:47.030 and the pictures is me thing but specifically 00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:52.449 i feel like i am left out yeah for one reason 00:48:52.449 --> 00:48:55.510 and i constantly being told i'm the nicest person 00:48:55.510 --> 00:48:58.090 you'll ever meet i'm so sweet i've never heard 00:48:58.090 --> 00:49:00.730 nothing but good things that i'm very proud of 00:49:00.730 --> 00:49:03.829 yeah but yeah why wouldn't you want me to be 00:49:03.829 --> 00:49:06.130 there then it just doesn't make sense and i don't 00:49:06.130 --> 00:49:09.690 know what i did and no one's ever had conversation 00:49:09.690 --> 00:49:13.929 with me it's feels much very much like when i 00:49:13.929 --> 00:49:17.070 was in middle school like in high school middle 00:49:17.070 --> 00:49:19.500 school And everyone's talking about somebody 00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:22.360 every time you are around. So you can only imagine 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.960 what they're talking about. Yeah. Behind your 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.980 back. Yeah. And I've experienced that over and 00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:32.820 over and over. That's why we pull away from those 00:49:32.820 --> 00:49:34.760 situations. Because if you're talking bad about 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.659 this person. And your friends' friends. And your 00:49:37.659 --> 00:49:41.860 friends. Supposedly friends. No. I'm not going 00:49:41.860 --> 00:49:43.619 to hang around you as much. I don't want to associate 00:49:43.619 --> 00:49:45.780 with anybody. Like, sorry. But then there's this 00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:49.840 years and. love and friendship that you think 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:54.440 you have. And so it's deeper than just not. And 00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.440 it goes really deep. And unfortunately it's a 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.980 lot harder than just not because also we're in 00:50:01.980 --> 00:50:04.619 the same circle, the same space. We have our 00:50:04.619 --> 00:50:08.380 business and we are going to the same, we have 00:50:08.380 --> 00:50:10.119 the same friends. We have the same circles, same 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.840 events. We have the same clubs that we go to. 00:50:12.900 --> 00:50:15.619 We have the same one. So you're always going 00:50:15.619 --> 00:50:18.860 to have to be, around it and just suck it up 00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:21.980 and it's getting harder and harder and that's 00:50:21.980 --> 00:50:24.960 not what I want. No. And I don't know how that's 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:26.480 going to change. I don't know if it's ever going 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:28.880 to change. I don't know if there's a way to change 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.619 it. I don't know. I don't know. I really don't 00:50:32.619 --> 00:50:35.039 know what's going to happen. But what makes it 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.159 worse is we can't have a conversation with them 00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.079 in private. Yeah. There's avoidance. And a lot 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:46.750 of them just... Cut you off. Yeah. For no reason. 00:50:46.849 --> 00:50:49.150 It's just an avoidance. And when you do end up 00:50:49.150 --> 00:50:51.469 running into them, it's high. It's very fake. 00:50:51.530 --> 00:50:57.130 It's very surface level. It's very. Yeah. Like, 00:50:57.170 --> 00:50:59.670 I don't know. And it's never an opportunity. 00:50:59.809 --> 00:51:02.269 You just sit down. And there's a way to do it. 00:51:02.849 --> 00:51:08.590 Mm -hmm. But we shall see, I guess. Yeah. But 00:51:08.590 --> 00:51:11.750 it's all right. It's getting better. It is. Everything's 00:51:11.750 --> 00:51:13.449 getting better. It is. This is going to be our 00:51:13.449 --> 00:51:18.130 year, baby. This is it. 2025. This is our year. 00:51:18.769 --> 00:51:23.590 But, yeah. So, that was a lot. That was a lot. 00:51:23.909 --> 00:51:27.030 That was so much. That was a lot on our chest 00:51:27.030 --> 00:51:29.269 that we've had sitting there for a very long 00:51:29.269 --> 00:51:34.530 time. We finally have a voice and say what we 00:51:34.530 --> 00:51:37.710 want to say. I just want to end it on, I know 00:51:37.710 --> 00:51:42.250 the people are going to hear this and I just 00:51:42.250 --> 00:51:46.480 want to say that I still love them. Nothing but 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.920 love. And even though we feel a certain way. 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.320 It's out of love. It's out of love. And that's 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.280 why it hurts so bad. It's out of love. It's all 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.820 about love. And I don't have any hate towards 00:52:01.820 --> 00:52:05.480 these people. No. Or resentment or anything like 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:10.519 that. It's just like you've already said, we're 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.510 on different paths at this point. And we're just 00:52:13.510 --> 00:52:17.789 adjusting. And our priorities are different than 00:52:17.789 --> 00:52:20.510 they once were. And we've experienced different 00:52:20.510 --> 00:52:23.389 groups and the way things work in other spaces 00:52:23.389 --> 00:52:26.570 and stuff. And we prefer that. And that's where 00:52:26.570 --> 00:52:29.769 we fit in more. And our mission is aligned with 00:52:29.769 --> 00:52:33.309 them. And it's not a bad thing. It's just we 00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:36.650 align with this group better or that group better 00:52:36.650 --> 00:52:41.250 or this event better. We just are reevaluating. 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.639 changing a little bit as we go and we're still 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.460 learning and we don't know what we're doing here 00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:50.420 we still are new here yeah we don't know we're 00:52:50.420 --> 00:52:55.159 just we're just a baby we're still trying to 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.820 figure out what to do and what this is all going 00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:00.920 to mean and what it's going to be we it you know 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.579 it shouldn't i'll say what i say to everyone 00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:09.599 that asks why and what it is and no one ever 00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:12.829 should have to lose their children or their houses 00:53:12.829 --> 00:53:15.349 or their jobs because you are doing something 00:53:15.349 --> 00:53:19.550 in private with other consenting adults should 00:53:19.550 --> 00:53:22.369 never happen and that is always number one on 00:53:22.369 --> 00:53:24.849 my mission and in my heart and that is the whole 00:53:24.849 --> 00:53:28.690 reason that sums it up and we're gonna make it 00:53:28.690 --> 00:53:32.429 that way yeah and it's it's a long hard fight 00:53:32.429 --> 00:53:34.510 and you have to be patient with us but we want 00:53:34.510 --> 00:53:36.449 to change the world we want to change laws we 00:53:36.449 --> 00:53:38.349 want to change hearts and we want to change people's 00:53:39.110 --> 00:53:43.289 brains and we want to just let people know we're 00:53:43.289 --> 00:53:45.909 here because there's a lot of us we're not going 00:53:45.909 --> 00:53:47.530 anywhere we're only getting bigger and we're 00:53:47.530 --> 00:53:49.769 only getting stronger and there's so many more 00:53:49.769 --> 00:53:54.010 of us than you even know out there and most all 00:53:54.010 --> 00:53:57.849 of us are hiding out of fear we have to because 00:53:57.849 --> 00:54:02.829 of fear and hatred and stigma and we want to 00:54:02.829 --> 00:54:06.630 make that not not anymore we just want to change 00:54:06.630 --> 00:54:10.030 that we just want to not do that anymore we want 00:54:10.030 --> 00:54:13.030 less of that and so that's been our purpose since 00:54:13.030 --> 00:54:14.809 day one and it will continue to be our purpose 00:54:14.809 --> 00:54:17.989 and you can count on us and we want all the friends 00:54:17.989 --> 00:54:20.929 all to love we just it's all love it's all out 00:54:20.929 --> 00:54:25.929 of love everything is love and on that note it's 00:54:25.929 --> 00:54:31.389 not that serious don't make it weird bye we love 00:54:31.389 --> 00:54:31.570 you