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This week on Hot Couple Chronicles.

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This week we are going to talk about something that we get asked about.

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And it is one of the main topics of all the questions and all the

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things that we get.

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It's about jealousy.

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If you're feeling jealous, dig inside yourself.

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Yeah.

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Probably a you thing.

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You have some kind of fear of abandonment or that someone's going to be better

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than you or bigger than you or you know, I've seen jealousy does some crazy

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stuff to people.

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Jealousy isn't your worst enemy.

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It's what you do with the jealousy.

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We always say this lifestyle can make or break your relationship and it does it

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very quickly.

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We've noticed.

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I mean, you'll know pretty fast if it's going to work out or not.

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The ultimate prize is how close we've become.

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What you get out of working through it and dealing with it and getting through

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jealousy and all the bad feels so you can have all the good feels together.

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Welcome to Hot Couple Chronicles, a podcast exploring the

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swinging lifestyle.

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Our discussions may contain explicit content and adult themes intended for

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mature audiences.

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that the views expressed are based on personal experiences and opinions.

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We encourage listeners to approach the content with an open mind and to

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prioritize communication, consent, and respect in their relationships.

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Remember everyone's journey is unique.

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So take what resonates with you and leave what doesn't.

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Thank you for joining us on our adventure.

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I'm Russ.

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And I'm Ashley.

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And this is Hot Couple Chronicles.

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Happy Wednesday.

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Happy Wednesday.

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Thanks for coming back.

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We appreciate you.

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So last week we talked with Robin Lindsay and we covered your birthday weekend.

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So now that you've had some time to let everything really soak in, cause we got

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it fresh, fresh, we recorded it like in the midst of it.

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It was a lot to, I was like overwhelmed in a good way, but speechless still.

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But I can't say I'm not, it was such a good weekend.

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I want to do it again, like a redo.

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Well, like another one right now.

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I need a redo.

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I'm ready.

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I'm ready.

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It's been a couple of weeks.

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It's time to go back.

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But yeah, we're busy planning all sorts of plans with our friends.

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Everybody's like, when can we get together again?

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We need to see you now.

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So I don't know.

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We'll see.

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I just, this whole work in every weekend thing really puts a diaper on it.

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I was like, everybody's more than welcome to come over whenever, anytime.

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I'm here all the time, but you won't be here.

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So it's kind of a bummer.

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I'll be here, but I'll be in bed to sleep or at work when you're up.

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Here, it starts shift weekend.

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So kind of a buzzkill.

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Yeah, that happens.

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The fun, fun killer, but it's okay.

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We're going to have fun soon.

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We got your birthday.

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We've got Patty's weekend coming up tomorrow.

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I will be at Chappie's got all sorts of stuff.

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We're not doing anything for February and March.

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We sure are doing.

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For now, do anything in February.

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You're doing an awful lot.

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I didn't have anything planned all of February and I don't know.

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It hasn't stopped since the new year.

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I'm not going to.

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I'm not going to.

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Since the new year, I'm not complaining.

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No, it's been busy.

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Like every other weekend, we've been doing something.

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It's been a lot of a lot of fun time.

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It's been good, but this week we are going to talk about something that we get

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asked about and is one of the main topics of all the questions and all the things

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that we get, it's about jealousy.

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We're going to talk all about jealousy.

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We all have been there.

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We've all been through it.

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We all hate it, but we're going to talk about it.

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It helps to talk about it.

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It does.

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We've picked up a few little pointers and tips and tricks and stuff in the last five

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years or so.

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Even though we don't get that as much, it still focuses on the ugly little face up

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every once in a while.

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No, we don't.

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We'll talk about that more.

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Before we can talk about jealousy, we need to talk about, understand what jealousy

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is and the types of jealousy and where it comes from and all the things about it.

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Usually it's an insecurity that's where it stems from.

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Usually it's an, I always say if you're feeling jealous, dig inside yourself.

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It's probably a you thing.

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You have some kind of fear of abandonment or that someone's going to be better than

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you or bigger than you or whatever it is, prettier than you, have more.

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And then you're scared to lose your partner and you always have that.

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You're aware that that can be taken away and that can be, it hits you sometimes

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when you're comparing, for me anyway, a lot of my jealousy that I've ever had,

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especially at the beginning, was I wasn't good enough.

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Like I wasn't pretty enough.

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My boobs weren't big enough.

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My body wasn't good enough.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it was like a physical thing for me when it would pop up and that all,

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honestly, all you can really do in that situation is get confident.

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Like that's what's going to happen.

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It's that easy.

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It's that easy, guys.

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Just get confident.

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Over time, as you hit that, it's really a new thing.

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Well, that's where the last time I felt a certain sort of way, it was I felt left out.

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And like it could be like a physical jealousy.

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It can be more of that emotional connection.

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I know a lot of the time that's a big one that pops its big ugly head out is the

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emotional part when people see their partners getting deep conversation.

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Actually connecting with somebody else.

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Chemistry with somebody, and that's usually when it flags like the physical

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part for some reason or another is a lot easier.

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Especially when you enjoy it and you have that comparison and you like enjoy

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watching your partner with someone else.

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It's like that's hot, but it's anything beyond that where it comes up.

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So you've got emotional and then you've got physical jealousy.

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And then you've got the comparative one where it's more of an envy than a jealousy.

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I really think it's she's, you know, or he or whatever you get that.

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Yeah, I feel like the compare like men compare themselves when it comes to like

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their size.

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Yeah, like for the most part or how muscular they are like their physique or

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their how tall they are.

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People guys are like weird about their heights and stuff, too.

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I'm not like that.

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But I know.

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But also people, when they meet me in person that have met me in person,

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they're like, you're taller than I thought.

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A lot of you.

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I said the same thing.

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That was the first thing I said to you when I met you in person.

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Also, you're a lot taller than I thought you would be.

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Apparently I look short.

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You look very short.

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Apparently.

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I don't know.

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That's what I thought too.

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And you're not even tall.

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You're only average.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know if you have that comparing wanting something that someone else has.

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For me, it was really bad with my boobs, like a big boob issue.

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Yeah, because they all deflated and went away.

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And I've had four kids and I'm not as young as I once was.

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Also gravity.

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And I would love more than anything to get a brand new parent, but I'm unable to

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physically right now.

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So that was a hard one for me was comparing because everyone, especially the groups

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that we were hanging out with and the crews that we were, the parties we were

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going to and the events and stuff, everyone had the tummy tucks and the mommy

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makeovers and everyone's got boobs.

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Like BBL.

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Now BBBLs came in there and all the Ozempic and all the things that everyone's doing.

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And it's hard not.

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And the Botox and the fillers and lip flips and all of that.

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It's hard to keep up with all of that.

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So you always find yourself.

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I found myself comparing at the beginning really bad.

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Now I don't.

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I barely ever.

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Everyone's beautiful.

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Everyone's great and wonderful.

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And that kind of is.

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But that was a journey.

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Like, yeah.

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That's something that these are feelings, especially at the beginning.

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Comparing myself to people.

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The envy was a hard thing because everyone felt like for a while there.

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It felt really like everyone had the perfect body.

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So why would he want a body that looks like mine?

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You know what I mean?

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Like that feeling like he's with these supermodels.

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Why would he want to have this full time?

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All this.

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So it was a lot of that getting through that.

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And really, honestly, that's.

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That was definitely a B.

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That was when this lifestyle turned into like this is way more about me.

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Journey than is about us or anyone else.

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And that's when it really hit me, like how much I have to work on myself

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and gaining confidence and self esteem and dealing with all that.

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And that helped the jealousy so much because you realize like

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we've got way more than that history and life we've done together.

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And it's like it's not it's not a physical thing.

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And it's kind of how to navigate that and just gain self confidence.

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I've seen jealousy does some crazy stuff to people.

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We have been through.

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Yeah, I've seen some.

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We have been through some weird doozies.

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Uncomfortable.

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We've never really.

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We've dealt with jealousy quietly a lot of the time.

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And we've done a lot of personal work and stuff.

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And that's usually when we come inward and we're like, what's going on here?

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There's something.

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One time we've ever had a discussion about feeling a certain sort of way is in private.

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Oh, yeah.

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I would never do it in front of anyone.

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But for sure, that's just respect and stuff.

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I just really have a hard time with people who feel the need to argue and fight

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with their spouse in front of people.

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You know what I mean?

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Especially who they don't know and people they don't know very well.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's some deep stuff there that's way deeper than just little feelings

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of jealousy that we've experienced.

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Luckily, we've not felt really experienced like hardcore.

258
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I've had some moments here and there when I felt like it wasn't even like a jealousy.

259
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It just felt like I wasn't getting enough attention.

260
00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,960
Yeah.

261
00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,480
Yeah.

262
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That's usually where it stems from.

263
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I was paying attention too much to somebody else.

264
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I started feeling like a third wheel.

265
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,040
Yeah.

266
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And I've had moments there where it's been a lot of people and a lot of stuff going on

267
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and not because you intentionally left me out, but in the moment it was like...

268
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You caught yourself in a moment alone.

269
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Yeah.

270
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And lonely felt like.

271
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So it was like I can't even say that it was really a jealousy thing.

272
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I mean, I guess a little bit of like, I need attention maybe.

273
00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:39,280
I think it's more of a you catch yourself alone and then our minds move really fast.

274
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Because he doesn't want me.

275
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It's because he doesn't love me anymore.

276
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Because he likes her better.

277
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Our thoughts move really fast.

278
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It might be three to five seconds.

279
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At that point, at that three to five seconds, we've gone through every scenario in our brain.

280
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Worst case.

281
00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,280
Worst case.

282
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,080
Yeah.

283
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,920
I'm definitely in the worst case scenario so I can prepare for the worst first.

284
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,920
Yeah. And that's been a lot.

285
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:07,400
And then you just go down this rabbit hole and it ruins your mood.

286
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And then you feel...

287
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These were pretty big events.

288
00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,160
And honestly, where it all stemmed from was just being overwhelmed and social.

289
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I didn't recognize this easily before.

290
00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,400
Like my social button is just off.

291
00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,800
I need to move myself.

292
00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,680
I need some recharge time.

293
00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:29,160
Where before we were new and excited and we were helping.

294
00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,360
We were running around with all of our people and there were so many people.

295
00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:33,760
Yeah.

296
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,880
I mean, we were excited.

297
00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,800
At the beginning too, that's when our social media was really big, big, big, big.

298
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,520
And we would go from the time we woke up to the time we finally woke up.

299
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We would wake up, do whatever and then go to a party, then come back and do

300
00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:59,360
some more social media stuff or content or whatever, then go back down for another

301
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:06,440
party and come back up and do more social media stuff and then get ready for the night party.

302
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,960
I even feel like a lot of it wasn't even jealousy at all.

303
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,640
And it was just being overwhelmed and anxious already.

304
00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:16,840
And I think that doesn't help when that all comes piling in there.

305
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,200
And I didn't recognize like, hey, you can take time.

306
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:20,960
We need to eat.

307
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,640
That's when we learned eating was important, drinking water, taking an hour or two and

308
00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,680
just laying in bed together, sleep, just laying relaxed just for an hour, take a shower,

309
00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,680
something and turn the lights off and just hang out for.

310
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,960
I don't know about you, but when we do that,

311
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,800
like just to lay down in bed before we get ready or whatever,

312
00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:50,520
I always have the moment where it's like we could not just stay here.

313
00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:56,240
Usually when I'm in the shower, we're getting ready and I'm like, we could not.

314
00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,720
Well, and like you have to start getting ready before me.

315
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,320
I know. So he sleeps while I start.

316
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,120
So I take a nap for an hour while you're showering.

317
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,600
Because it only takes me 20 minutes to shower, shave, do my hair, put my clothes on.

318
00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,000
I'm done.

319
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,960
I always have a little bit for a minute when I'm starting to get ready,

320
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,840
because it's usually after a good nap or dinner or something when I want to nap.

321
00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:29,160
And then I have to get ready and you get to just like lay on the bed and just pass out.

322
00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,320
It's nice. It is nice.

323
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,160
I'm not going to lie. It's nice.

324
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560
But getting back on track, we're talking about jealousy.

325
00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,680
Oh, yeah.

326
00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,720
The thing about jealousy, too, is that I have said this a million bazillion times,

327
00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160
but it's not it's going to happen.

328
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,360
It's going to pop up.

329
00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,400
Yeah, it's going.

330
00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,440
It's a natural, normal human emotion that everyone has and experiences.

331
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920
It's not jealousy isn't your worst enemy.

332
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,360
It's what you do with the jealousy.

333
00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,680
Absolutely. And that's the key.

334
00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:08,880
Well, I think it's our just our human response to blame everybody else or your

335
00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200
emotions deflect and you deflect it.

336
00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,680
It's hard, especially for somebody that's just getting into the lifestyle and hasn't

337
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:22,360
had to deal with these type of emotions very often is what is unpacking doing the

338
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,520
self work. Usually it's just fear.

339
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,720
Like you're scared. Yeah.

340
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,120
Of something. Yeah.

341
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,640
For some reason, like, yeah, you're scared that your partner all of a sudden is

342
00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,720
going to get this white picket fence fantasy with this other person.

343
00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,200
Yeah. And it triggers like, no, that's mine.

344
00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,440
You know. Yeah.

345
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:49,440
And usually like what we've seen a lot of jealousy about is that that like

346
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,800
territorial is mine.

347
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,200
Mine. This is mine.

348
00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,720
You get the what do we call it?

349
00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,800
What do you always say? Finding Nemo.

350
00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,840
Finding Nemo.

351
00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,160
The seagulls. Mine. Mine.

352
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,160
Mine. You belong to me.

353
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,880
You're mine. Or she's mine.

354
00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,920
Or don't look.

355
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,640
It's like this weird.

356
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,840
Well, we're programmed to do that.

357
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,960
Yeah. Like from a childhood, to be honest.

358
00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:18,520
This for ninety nine percent of the people in the lifestyle, this is a newer.

359
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,840
Like even if they've been doing it 20 years for most of their life, they were

360
00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,960
trained to be monogamous from childhood.

361
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,240
So socially acceptable way.

362
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,560
Yeah.

363
00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,760
And you belong to your spouse.

364
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,400
Yeah, there's definitely an ownership like.

365
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,480
And we're kind of breaking that cycle where like, yeah, you.

366
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,760
I am your person.

367
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,800
Yeah.

368
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,920
But also, I don't know, physically, we are free.

369
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,440
You know what I mean? Yeah.

370
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:57,240
Like it's hard. It's really hard to explain in that regard because I do have some stuff.

371
00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,680
I do have a mind mentality.

372
00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,760
Like you are mine.

373
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,640
Yeah.

374
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,760
And that's why we have boundaries and rules.

375
00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,600
Yeah. That's why that's like kind of going into like tips and tricks and things

376
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,360
that we've learned along the way.

377
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,480
Boundaries are there for that reason to help negate that jealousy feeling.

378
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,920
Yeah.

379
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,320
If you have something that repeatedly brings up jealousy and you're feeling a

380
00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:26,080
certain like mind way about it and you know that that's when you can stick a

381
00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,120
boundary there and be like, we're not doing that anymore.

382
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600
Right. It can be whatever you want it to be.

383
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,840
If that helps that feeling and stuff until you work through it, then so be it.

384
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:43,400
It could just be a boundary that you just put there to deal until you deal with the

385
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:50,160
trauma or whatever is bringing that up or it could be something that's there forever.

386
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,280
Yeah, it could be something.

387
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,880
It's like a hard no.

388
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,280
Yeah.

389
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,000
Like no one will ever call you daddy.

390
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,040
That's my heart.

391
00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,840
Yeah. That makes your eye twitch.

392
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,240
It has happened a few times.

393
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,680
I watch your whole facial expression change.

394
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,280
It's like, well, what would we be leaving now?

395
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,640
It's just not.

396
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,040
That'll never change.

397
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,040
I'm like, we'll be living now.

398
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,080
You just know we really honestly, the jealousy is just not a thing.

399
00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:23,480
And I know people think that you think that you're saying that you're better

400
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,840
swinger. That's the first thought is people roll their eyes and they're like,

401
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,480
oh, you think you're professional.

402
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,800
You think you're better swingers.

403
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,600
We are is not that at all.

404
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,600
We have just been through so many different things and worked really hard

405
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,920
trust and security, and you're not going anywhere.

406
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,720
And I know it in our marriage and relationships never been more solid,

407
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,720
which brings security there.

408
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,040
Yeah, that's where it really we talk about.

409
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:59,640
We've used every experience where we've had a negative emotion

410
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,960
as a trust building.

411
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,600
Yeah, like a good thing.

412
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:10,280
And so we've always unpacked, especially in the beginning, like when

413
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,720
we were just navigating the beginning stages of the lifestyle, we would have

414
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,480
an experience and talk about it for weeks.

415
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,280
Yeah.

416
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,400
And like, I don't like it when this happened or I really like that.

417
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,440
Or did you see that?

418
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,040
What do you think about that?

419
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,000
We talked about it for weeks.

420
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,520
Oh, yeah.

421
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,080
Our first experiences.

422
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:32,880
Oh, yeah.

423
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,320
And that's how we started.

424
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,000
Building our certain boundaries.

425
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,160
Yeah, because we're fair.

426
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,520
Yeah, that helps.

427
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,320
And like, I didn't like that.

428
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:47,000
I'm like, OK, let's not do that then.

429
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:56,680
And then as we explored and got more comfortable with each other and our trust

430
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:03,720
grew, and we're like, oh, like and that helps and get rid of the more trust you

431
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,480
have the cycle, the more really open we really are like secure.

432
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,400
I don't think

433
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,760
three years ago, I would let you go to trap by yourself.

434
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,760
No, no, no, no, no.

435
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,840
I know, like once a month.

436
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,000
I like because I know exactly what it's going to be.

437
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,280
Yeah.

438
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,560
Every time. Yeah.

439
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,040
And I know, you know, the people I know the deep enough.

440
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,720
I know people that are there.

441
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,160
I'm there.

442
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,880
Yeah.

443
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,200
Just

444
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,520
in a roundabout way.

445
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,320
Yeah.

446
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,560
Yeah.

447
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,600
I know you're good, but yeah.

448
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,680
Three years ago, I didn't know.

449
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680
We would have never even if I would have known the people there.

450
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,280
I'm like, no, we were always same room.

451
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480
We were never open to anything else other than that.

452
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,520
Obviously, since then, we've experimented with pretty much everything.

453
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,960
But like that was like a hard no for quite a while.

454
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,760
We had to be within like arms.

455
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,520
Yeah, we had to be able to touch each other.

456
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,880
Yeah, it was the whole thing.

457
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,560
Yeah.

458
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,960
And they are talking about boundaries.

459
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,680
That is one.

460
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,720
Like now another the whole like I don't get jealous or whatever.

461
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,000
We just don't.

462
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,960
And then the whole boundaries thing, they're like, what are your boundaries?

463
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,920
I have Tic Tocs out there with like five different things on the screen.

464
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,040
And now I was trying to think of an updated one.

465
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,880
What are your boundaries?

466
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,080
I don't know.

467
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,400
I don't know anymore.

468
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,200
Protection is.

469
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,880
Yeah, I think we're left on the list.

470
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,920
I honestly think we're to the point now when it comes to boundaries and

471
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,000
navigating jealousy is we'll let each other know if we hit.

472
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,200
That's where we're at.

473
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,640
I know that's like a red flag that we used to talk about at the beginning.

474
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,640
Like if someone says they don't have boundaries or don't get jealous, that's

475
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,520
a red flag. And I hear me saying it.

476
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,240
And then I think about all the people rolling their eyes.

477
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,920
But like, I just think that's how deep we are.

478
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,720
Like how tight.

479
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:11,360
Yeah, like I just honestly think that we're honest enough with each other.

480
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,200
That's we if I don't something comes up, we're going to talk about it.

481
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,000
Oh, yeah, immediately.

482
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,800
And we both don't have to have any more.

483
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,160
Like we used to have like hand movements and cues and colors and names.

484
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,160
I honestly it's to the point where I just be like, I'm not good.

485
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,000
We got to go.

486
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,840
I'm not good.

487
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,040
Let's go step outside.

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:35,400
Or a lot of times when I can see you kind of debating on your emotions, I'll just

489
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,640
like you have a certain face that you make and you just kind of like that's a very

490
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,400
like overwhelmed and checked out face that you make just kind of blank.

491
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000
And that's why I'm like, you good.

492
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,280
You'd be like, can we go outside?

493
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,960
Let's go for a walk.

494
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,880
Yeah, I'm like, all right, let's go.

495
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,000
And that's not even jealousy.

496
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,000
That's usually just anxiety.

497
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,840
Yeah, anxiety or something is making me uncomfortable.

498
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,640
And thinking about your birthday weekend,

499
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,600
there was a couple of times where.

500
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,160
I didn't feel a certain sort of way at all the weekend, but there is a couple

501
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,360
of moments where I'm like, we would have never three years ago.

502
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:24,400
Like Saturday night after we got back from Trap, your social battery just kind of just

503
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720
and you just went upstairs, didn't say anything.

504
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,360
You just went to bed.

505
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,600
You just went to bed.

506
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Like five minutes went by and you were up in bed.

507
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,640
I'm so tired.

508
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,880
I've been up since I look around and I'm like, where's Ashley?

509
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,040
And I went upstairs and you were asleep.

510
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,840
I'm like, oh, okay.

511
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,360
But like, I know you're good.

512
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Like back in the day, I used to have to like we would.

513
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,760
I mean, we would be attached to each other at all times, every no matter what.

514
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,080
And now it's just like when I need to go, I just go and then you find me.

515
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,600
And it works out that way.

516
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,440
Same way with you.

517
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,680
I'm like, I'll keep up with you.

518
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,760
I'll figure it out. I'll check in.

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,440
We always are checking all the time.

520
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,440
And that's another part of the jealousy tips and things that we've learned is

521
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,720
like physical touching, holding hands, just reconnecting for a moment.

522
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Lock your eyes, just checking in.

523
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,720
It's those check ins.

524
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,640
It's definitely the check ins that it kind of just reassures.

525
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,040
It's a reassurance part of it.

526
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,720
Yeah.

527
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,120
You good. I'm good.

528
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520
Or if anything like I didn't end again

529
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,480
with the relationship being pretty close and tight, like that's the moment where I

530
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,720
would be like, I'm not okay.

531
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,280
Yeah.

532
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Or you'd be like, not doing great.

533
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Let's go talk about it.

534
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,440
And we will talk about it.

535
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,760
It's not we're not going to hold it off or put it off or anything.

536
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,280
It needs to be dealt with at least enough.

537
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Yeah.

538
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,200
Get that reassurance because that's what like sometimes it's assumptions.

539
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,760
And well, yeah, there's a lot here.

540
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,880
You know, yeah, you heard something wrong or you thought something wrong or you

541
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,800
turned it around on your head.

542
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Also, like a lot of people assume that

543
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,880
the it's the end of the night when you have these conversations now, which isn't the

544
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,960
case night, like I'd say most of the time it is, hey,

545
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,560
I feel this sort of way.

546
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Can we talk about it real quick?

547
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,080
And it's literally a five, 10, 5, 10 minute conversation.

548
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,120
And we go back out and we're good.

549
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,600
Like usually it's like a miscommunication or you saw I saw something or you saw

550
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,440
something that you didn't necessarily like or it had, you know, that just triggered

551
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,680
some type of feeling and we go talk about like we'll go behind closed doors

552
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,280
and we'll just talk about it and move on.

553
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,560
Now, sometimes it's very rarely now, but in the past, it used to be, OK,

554
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,680
we're done for the night.

555
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,960
We're going to lay in bed and talk about it, go to sleep,

556
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,160
talk about it in the morning.

557
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,560
We've also always like our relationship is number one.

558
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800
The only reason we're there is because we want to be there.

559
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,440
Yes.

560
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040
So it's like if we're not good and we're not or someone's not having fun,

561
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,800
then what is the point exactly?

562
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,480
And we always, always.

563
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,360
That's one thing that stuck around since the beginning.

564
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:10,920
As we've always said, this is an us thing.

565
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,520
There's nothing.

566
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,960
And that's our saying all the time.

567
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,800
And we have had to numerous times like look at each other and be like, this is

568
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,320
enough thing for not good, we're not good.

569
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,920
And we're not doing it like why would you?

570
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Why would we keep going to an event or if we're not having fun?

571
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,000
Yeah, I would be partying and stuff together if we're not OK.

572
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Yeah, but our relationship is the old reason for literally everything.

573
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,160
So we've always held it there.

574
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,480
And so the lifestyle is no different.

575
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,320
If we're not OK, we're not one's not OK.

576
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,880
We're both not OK.

577
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,440
And some people need different things, any different, you know, adjust boundaries.

578
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,280
I can help. We're talking about that.

579
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Or some people just need time and they need a moment.

580
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,360
And writing it down is a good tip, like writing through it.

581
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Yeah, there's like I'm not like I could see you doing that.

582
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,280
Yeah, like it all depends on how you process information, be honest in emotions.

583
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Like I just have a very analytical brain.

584
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:15,480
And so I can logically think through my problems.

585
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Now, I understand a lot of people are very emotional people and can't do that.

586
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,760
That's what I mean.

587
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,600
And that's where I could see writing it down and when you write it down and look

588
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,800
at it like that's not that's what I do normally.

589
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,520
Like, what am I? That's why I write things all the time.

590
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,240
By seeing it written down, you actually see how ridiculous you can step away.

591
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Your thoughts are. Yeah.

592
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,920
It's like a different outlook on it from writing it down.

593
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840
And that's why I usually do it just for myself.

594
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
Nobody else. I just, you know, write for myself.

595
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,920
But also hand in hand with that, like meditation, taking a deep breath,

596
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,520
walking away, taking space, just, you know, keeping your person informed.

597
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Though don't just run away and leave.

598
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Yeah, we have seen some really bad jealousy

599
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,440
situations where at clubs we've talked about it before, like just literally

600
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,560
leaving your spouse there or just start walking or thinking they left or just not

601
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,960
communicating like just either the bathroom or something.

602
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,040
One idea, one partner just needing a little break.

603
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,080
So they go get water or go for a walk or if it's a hotel, take a walk through

604
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,000
the hotel real quick in the bathroom or sit in the bathroom or something like this.

605
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480
You have the other spouse panic, quiet place.

606
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,600
And then the other spouse thinks they're running around.

607
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Worst case scenario, worst case scenario.

608
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,800
But also, I think we need a touch about the influence of drugs and alcohol,

609
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720
drugs and alcohol. That has been a huge issue.

610
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:52,120
A huge issue. It amplifies and you kind of lose those inhibitions to deescalate

611
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,840
the situation. It's become a very escalate.

612
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,160
It definitely every single time and.

613
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,360
You automatically become defensive.

614
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:09,840
And I've seen numerous times people use it as a crutch, like they have to numb

615
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,360
and it's because there's unhealed, un dealt with.

616
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
If they have jealousy and trauma, things that have happened.

617
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880
If you need.

618
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Like I feel like you need the drink to involve yourself in lifestyle.

619
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,320
You need a huge problem.

620
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,120
You need to figure out why you stop being a lifestyle,

621
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560
at least for a permit, until you figure it out.

622
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,480
I think some I do think that a lot of jealousy issues, couples that have repeated

623
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,360
jealousy over and over again, I 100 percent believe that they need to step away from

624
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,360
the lifestyle. Oh, yeah.

625
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
They need to work on if it's a problem and you're constantly fighting and bickering

626
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,080
and arguing and you're making things uncomfortable for people and for yourselves.

627
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,400
And you're always as a problem.

628
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560
You need to work on you and your spouse.

629
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560
You need to tap back into why you're there and what you're doing there.

630
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,360
Because I think a lot of couples lose sight of what they're really there for.

631
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,760
They get caught up in getting these partners and having sex and getting to have

632
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
all this fun and party and themes and all this crazy stuff.

633
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,760
When the whole reason and purpose you're there is for you and your partner.

634
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,880
Yeah, it's it's easy to get caught up in all the excitement.

635
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,040
It is. It is.

636
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,480
And the glitz and the glam and the fun it is.

637
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,000
But yeah, in the end of the day, you're there with your partner.

638
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,240
I think a lot of couples forget that and they or and they put themselves on the

639
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,160
back burner and they focus on the lifestyle and the glitz and the glamour and the

640
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,360
dressing up and having fun and the drinking and the dancing and doing all of that.

641
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240
But it always goes back to like you're there.

642
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Yeah, it's us thing.

643
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,920
It's us thing.

644
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,440
And this is an us thing.

645
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,720
And it's about us.

646
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,840
So, yeah, we've seen some nasty if you can't tell by our tone.

647
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760
We've seen some nasty fights with some really good people.

648
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,400
Just we can't do jealousy very much.

649
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,160
We have a hard time dealing with the constant not jealousy, the fighting.

650
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Yeah.

651
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640
If you if it gets to the point where you're fighting with your spouse,

652
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,480
that's not much of a problem, then we're going to probably piece.

653
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Yeah, we're going to definitely back off quite a bit because that means there is

654
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,640
some deep, deep shit there that you haven't dealt with and you're not dealing

655
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,520
with and you need to work on. Yeah.

656
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,760
And usually that's when we're like, you need to take that time step away.

657
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Love you. Bye.

658
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Like it's that easy.

659
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,600
It's that simple for us.

660
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,760
It's we love hanging around couples that are solid and have their shit together.

661
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,840
And, you know, I understand that jealousy is going to happen here and there.

662
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Feeling going to happen and we said it at the beginning.

663
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Stuff's going to happen.

664
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
But and we'll say it a million times more.

665
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,400
It's not

666
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,160
that if you feel jealous, it's how you deal with how you deal with it.

667
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,600
And you can tell when the person or the couple or whatever

668
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:02,280
has healthy coping mechanisms and they have good ways to work around it.

669
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Open line of communication and listening skills and when they're genuinely sorry

670
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,920
and genuinely, yeah, because every because every time you fell a certain way or I

671
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,640
felt a certain way, we were like, I never meant to make you feel that way.

672
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,680
I'm so sorry.

673
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,200
Like, what can I do not to make you feel this way again?

674
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240
And sometimes there's nothing you could do.

675
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,840
It was just a me thing.

676
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Or it's I it was when you did this like, OK, I won't do that anymore.

677
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,080
You can work on that. OK, no biggie.

678
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,000
We can avoid that. Yeah.

679
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:48,360
But that open line of communication and being able to say, hey, I'm not OK without

680
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,600
the fear of judgment is probably the biggest part.

681
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,720
Yeah.

682
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,560
And it's a hard part for people.

683
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,440
Oh, yeah.

684
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960
I wouldn't say it became it came easy to us.

685
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,920
No, no.

686
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Like we are always we were always pretty honest with each other.

687
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,360
So it wasn't hard for us, but it's at a whole different level.

688
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,120
It's not so easy for a lot of people.

689
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,000
No, it's not.

690
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,400
And then you find them like, but then again, why?

691
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600
If it's not that easy for you to talk to your partner, why?

692
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Yeah, it all boils down to you got to work on that together.

693
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,800
Whatever it is, it could be a whole list of things.

694
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,240
It could be a whole bunch of stuff that triggered it, too.

695
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440
And you have to figure it out together and figure out what you're going to do

696
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,440
about it because it will keep copying up and it will.

697
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,240
The more that you keep stuffing it down and stuffing it down, I promise there will

698
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,920
be a moment where you can't anymore and it's going to be dealt with whether you

699
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,040
like it or not. Yeah, it's going to come up with it.

700
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,520
And say it's going to.

701
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,240
Pop up eventually,

702
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,400
no, and it's definitely how you are not saying we're perfect, that's for sure.

703
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,040
I know that I'll be jealous again and you'll have moments of jealousy, too, again.

704
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,680
And it's going to happen again.

705
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
There's more than what, especially with all the different people we meet and the

706
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,800
different scenarios we get into.

707
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,920
And the more we trust each other and the more we experience this world like this

708
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,240
and stuff is going to pop up.

709
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:18,840
Yeah, I mean, because the more open we get, the more you open yourself up to the more

710
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,840
you open yourself up to an experience that's going to trigger something

711
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,120
called all going to be like, you know, it's not all rainbows and unicorns,

712
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,480
which I do love me some unicorns, but I love some rainbows.

713
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,240
But we try to get to that all the time, but we're going to we're going to fail

714
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,800
here and there. We're going to fall down.

715
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,840
Things are going to be weird.

716
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,120
Things are always weird.

717
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,760
Like, I know our saying is it's not that serious to make it weird, but like,

718
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,240
we're always be making it weird and other people be people in and making it really

719
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,280
weird and it's what you do with it and how you navigate.

720
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,800
I don't know. I always try and make jokes.

721
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,960
There's nothing worse than just not when you know a couple is just not good.

722
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Yeah.

723
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000
And they're good people and they're nice people because that's the thing about the

724
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,920
lifestyle is everyone is so nice.

725
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,880
I say that all of the time and everyone we've talked to this.

726
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,400
It comes up the same way.

727
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,800
Everyone is so nice, but.

728
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:30,080
But it's a say it's when you get in these situations and these masks come off.

729
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Yeah, it can.

730
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,920
And you start to see

731
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,840
like the people they are.

732
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Yeah. And they let those walls down.

733
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,960
They let those walls down. And again,

734
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,440
just because.

735
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,840
We are friends with you and we see these things come up doesn't mean we're going

736
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,560
to stop talking to you, but we're probably not going to play for a while until we see.

737
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Oh, yeah, we're going to remove ourselves from that part of it.

738
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Yeah, we're going to definitely take a step back from that part of it until we see

739
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,680
you guys better. Yeah, we don't.

740
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,240
We just don't tolerate it.

741
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,320
We don't tolerate fighting.

742
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520
We don't talk, especially physically, we don't. You touch each other.

743
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,840
And pretty much that's it for us.

744
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,200
I probably would never put myself into a situation with you again to make me

745
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,360
because I'm like that. That's that's that's you.

746
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,160
We've seen some stuff we've seen some.

747
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,920
Yeah, we've seen people cry.

748
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,880
We've seen people physically.

749
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,800
We've done like touch each other.

750
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,880
We've seen people just nasty, nasty things you can say to somebody.

751
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,320
That's your person. You know, it always blows my mind.

752
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
And so it's hard for me to really get past that.

753
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,720
I'm like, that's your human, your person in the world.

754
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,160
You're yeah.

755
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,040
If you say that to your person, nasty stuff.

756
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Yeah.

757
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,440
I thought, what are you going to say?

758
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,960
I think I'm going to involve myself in between that.

759
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,040
It's going to take some trust and it's going to take some time.

760
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:59,360
It's going to take a whole lot of work because I am not going to be a part of it.

761
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Why would I ever put myself in that vulnerable situation when you're doing

762
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,480
that with your person, all the people?

763
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
So jealousy can be pretty nasty thing.

764
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,920
I really can't.

765
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,560
They've seen some nasty, nasty part of where we we got to go now.

766
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760
Yeah, you have to work on like, OK, bye.

767
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,960
We're going to we've that's what I pull or cheese because of it.

768
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,000
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

769
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Like we saw stuff going on.

770
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,040
We're like, it's definitely where I say

771
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,400
that disgusting is acceptable to just remove yourself from that situation,

772
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,600
especially if it's like not safe situation.

773
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800
And also, like, it's clearly a them thing.

774
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Oh, yeah.

775
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,840
So why would I involve myself in them?

776
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,720
And that's what we've said.

777
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,120
We're like, OK, this is like you've got some stuff you guys have to work on together.

778
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Yeah, we're going to be going on our way.

779
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,480
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And we in this last four or five years, we have become the newbie coach.

788
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Don't know how it happened.

789
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,520
It just has.

790
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,760
I don't know, we became the couple for new people and I love it.

791
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000
I don't hate it. It's it's perfect.

792
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,320
It was there.

793
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,800
There's a lot of people that like avoid newbies.

794
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,040
I don't necessarily hate it.

795
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,560
Yeah. So then they're like, here, meet Ashley and us.

796
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,000
These are your new.

797
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,800
I love sharing our experiences with people.

798
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Yeah, it makes sense.

799
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,720
And what we've learned.

800
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,920
But coming along with that, though,

801
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,480
was that what I was saying?

802
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,280
That's where we've seen some pretty nasty stuff because it's jealousy

803
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520
popping its head for the first time, people that don't know and have never

804
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,720
really dealt with these emotions and these like things that they're seeing.

805
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,800
Yeah, that comes along.

806
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,240
And then what

807
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,120
seems seems to be the trend is.

808
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Everything's hunky dory, then they'll have, you know, a situation.

809
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,760
We'll see ourselves out of that situation.

810
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,320
And then the next day or two, they're calling and texting us or snapping us.

811
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360
I feel like trying to explain.

812
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,800
And we're just like, we understand.

813
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,520
We get it.

814
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,040
But that's something you guys got to deal with.

815
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,560
We can't like we can't deal with it for you.

816
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Yeah, we had to learn how to remember that because we at the very beginning.

817
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:30,800
That's where I was going.

818
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,920
We were trying to fix marriage.

819
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,080
I hope it became like therapists almost.

820
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200
And we were not qualified for that.

821
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,480
And I have never wanted to be that.

822
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,960
And it just kind of was like we wanted to help our people because we love these

823
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,400
people, get really close to people and you feel connected.

824
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,360
And then you're stuck in between a marriage that is just not not good.

825
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,680
And you get to the point where you do have you have to remove yourself.

826
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,400
Yeah, you have to draw that line.

827
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:04,240
Yeah, because when you start like when you start kind of getting involved

828
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:10,680
with the other people's relationship, emotions get blurred and you're

829
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,160
opening the door to attachment things and this and that.

830
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,280
And it's like, no, I'm good.

831
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,520
And then like when they all there's been times where people have gotten divorced

832
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,440
and then you're stuck in the whole pick a side, pick a side, someone pick a side.

833
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,760
And I don't pick sides.

834
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
I don't do that. I'm not a pick.

835
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,600
Yeah, I'm always Switzerland.

836
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,640
And I it does put you in those weird.

837
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
We've been through some weird things.

838
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
We've seen jealousy absolutely destroyed.

839
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,240
We always say this lifestyle can make or break your relationship and it does it

840
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080
very quickly. We've noticed.

841
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
I mean, you'll know pretty fast if it's going to work out or not.

842
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,040
And it can make a marriage amazing and wonderful.

843
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,200
And you can thrive like never before.

844
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,720
But then you have that other side.

845
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,800
But you have to be honest.

846
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,080
That's the thing. And you have to do the work.

847
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,160
Yeah. And it's going to be a whole bunch

848
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,680
of uncomfortable work that nobody wants to do stuff that we forced out.

849
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,120
And we just keep quiet and we don't listen to those thoughts and those feelings

850
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,280
and stuff. You don't deal with them.

851
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,000
But like I said, it will come out.

852
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,440
Promise in this lifestyle, you are put in some vulnerable situations and it'll

853
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,160
escape eventually. Yes.

854
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,920
And it's not going to be good unless you know how to deal with it.

855
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,240
And that's why we're here today.

856
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Just kind of help

857
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,840
take a moment.

858
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,320
Aftercare is another huge one that we didn't talk about dealing with it,

859
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,880
making sure and in the lifestyle aftercare is different than like BDSM.

860
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,240
In the lifestyle, it can be as simple as just a physical touch.

861
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,440
Yeah.

862
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,560
I hate the word reclaiming.

863
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,400
I think reconnecting is a better word for that.

864
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Yeah.

865
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,920
It feels territorial.

866
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,320
It feels icky and weird.

867
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,440
And you're not property.

868
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,680
It's just a whole thing.

869
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Yeah.

870
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,960
But reconnecting, I do think, is a very good because we have always done that.

871
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,160
We always have like after the night is over, we have our marriage sex.

872
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,280
We connect.

873
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Yeah, this.

874
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,800
But it's always so hot.

875
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,800
It's so good.

876
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,520
So good.

877
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,280
And it's so sweaty and nasty.

878
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,720
It's raw like marriage sex.

879
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,320
It's like a comfortable, hot.

880
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,440
But it's like all of the things that have happened.

881
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,440
And then at the end of the night and I don't call.

882
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,880
I don't really think that's reclaiming.

883
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,880
I think that is just reconnecting and comfortable being with your person.

884
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,280
And you've been turned on for like hours and like excited.

885
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,280
Yeah. Like I need to get off.

886
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,480
It's hot. Yeah.

887
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Yeah. Yeah.

888
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,680
But, you know, after care can look different in the lifestyle than it can be.

889
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,200
It could just simple, simple like snack and a drink going to get a snack together.

890
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,560
We've sat outside.

891
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,160
We've sat outside of hotels and stuff like that and got like snacks in the front

892
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,720
bar, ice cream and stuff like that little cafe, freezers and stuff.

893
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,080
They have just been like randomly talking about all the things that have happened

894
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:04,400
and getting snacks and putting sweatpants on finally or going outside waiting for

895
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,920
the door dasher to show up pizza or some kind of food involved.

896
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Usually, usually.

897
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,560
Yeah. Usually we finally get back to the room.

898
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,320
We're like, I'm hungry.

899
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Yeah. That's like I'm thirsty.

900
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,160
I need a water and I need to put sweatpants on and eat something bad for me or snack

901
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,080
on something. But that's that's usually when we're sitting there.

902
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,360
We'll sit there and talk about what it was just happened or oh, my God,

903
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,720
did you just see that or hear that or feel that or how do you how do you think?

904
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,960
It can be as simple as just how are you?

905
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,120
Are you OK?

906
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Yeah. You're saying checking in and stuff.

907
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,520
That's a lot of after cares.

908
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,280
Just checking in and being like, how are you physically, mentally,

909
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,320
emotionally, all the things.

910
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,040
And it doesn't have to be anything huge and crazy.

911
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:51,680
And it can be like cuddling and blankets and people cuddle.

912
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,880
A lot of people cuddle.

913
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,320
Yeah. A lot of our friends are cuddle puddlers.

914
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,120
They're always any cuddle puddle.

915
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,880
You're not. But I am.

916
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,320
So he's all about the cuddle puddle.

917
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,720
I love a good cuddle puddle.

918
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:03,360
I have a hard time.

919
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,400
I could have a physical touch person.

920
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,000
No, you're not.

921
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,840
I'm not. I just don't like your.

922
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Not used. I love it.

923
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,640
But I don't like to be touched.

924
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Tell me how it works.

925
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,040
I don't know.

926
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,120
No, it does.

927
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,120
But all of our friends and Tim are all cuddlers.

928
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,520
So they're always like, want to go to be like 1 p.m.

929
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,240
We'll be eating at 1 p.m. You want to go cuddle puddle?

930
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,400
It comes up all day every time we're together.

931
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,000
Yeah.

932
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,800
Cudddle puddle time yet?

933
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,520
I will cuddle puddle, but I don't get off on it like you all do.

934
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,480
I don't know.

935
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,520
I just it's like a warm hug.

936
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,080
I hate hugs.

937
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
I don't know. I just I feel.

938
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,320
It's hard to explain how it like a cuddle puddle feels.

939
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,760
No, I get it. I get it.

940
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,760
I've been in many of them. I do.

941
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,440
I just.

942
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,600
Usually, especially after all that, I just want to be like,

943
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,120
I'm all sweaty.

944
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,040
I need to get a shower.

945
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:02,160
I need to take a moment.

946
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Yeah, I feel the cuddle puddle after a shower or the best cuddle puddles.

947
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Everybody be trying to do it in the mornings.

948
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,920
I'm like, oh, yeah, I need to brush my teeth first.

949
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,760
I love you.

950
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,800
But also, can I just brush my teeth real quick?

951
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,520
I need.

952
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,960
To be good.

953
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Yeah, clean.

954
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964
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,400
Yeah, those are just some things and some tips and some stuff that maybe hopefully

965
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,480
might help someone just deal with it.

966
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,920
I think that's where I think that's the overall message.

967
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Communication is key, as always and forever.

968
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520
The same thing we say every single episode.

969
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,120
Communication really is key.

970
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,360
Communication and honest, even if you don't know how to frame it and you don't

971
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,360
know where that feeling is coming from and you just say that it's OK to say it's OK

972
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,120
to be like, I'm feeling a certain sort of way.

973
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:43,080
I'm not really sure where it's coming from or why, but I would like to work on it.

974
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,680
Right when we need to work through it and just take time to connect with each other.

975
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,520
Yeah, it's definitely not a race.

976
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,560
I feel like there's a lot of people that

977
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,040
feel that they have to rush into things.

978
00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:00,000
Yeah, and there's not no there's no rush.

979
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,240
You can be like we knew people that were

980
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,320
navigating lifestyle for a year and a half before they even touched anybody else.

981
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,800
Yeah. Longer than that.

982
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,520
I mean, we know a couple of people, just there's people that still have never.

983
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,560
Yeah, that's just just a thing.

984
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,480
And that's fine.

985
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,720
That's again, the lifestyle is whatever you want it to be.

986
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,400
It can have you can have four hundred and boundaries and rules, a contract.

987
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,000
You can make it whatever you want it to be to make you the most comfortable.

988
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,880
But again, biggest tip work on where that's

989
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,240
coming from and why you feel the need to have these rules and these boundaries.

990
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,440
And what is that coming from?

991
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,200
Is it fear of abandonment?

992
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,760
Like what's going on there?

993
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,280
Are you feeling not secure, not confident and deal with that?

994
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,000
And usually with that, you'll be able to actually because the whole point is to

995
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,360
just be able to fulfill all fantasies, any fantasies that you ever could want to do

996
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,200
together. And that's like the ultimate goals to fulfill every fantasy, all the fantasies together.

997
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,280
Yeah. And you're going to have to work on getting there because it's not easy.

998
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,440
No, it's not.

999
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,720
There's some uncomfortable.

1000
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,200
It takes a lot of work.

1001
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Yeah. Get comfortable being uncomfortable because you're going to be also comfortable.

1002
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,320
You get sweet like we've gotten so close

1003
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:29,080
through those conversations that I don't know if it's definitely worth it.

1004
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,400
Yeah. From that.

1005
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,320
Yeah.

1006
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,600
We've had some weird.

1007
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,120
We've had some crazy experiences and we've had a lot of fun.

1008
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,200
But in the end, like the ultimate prize is how close we've become.

1009
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,680
What you get out of working through it and dealing with it and getting through

1010
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,520
tell scene all the bad feels so you can have all the good feels together.

1011
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,120
Yeah. Unlimited good feels.

1012
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,960
That's the only goal.

1013
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,800
I were all here.

1014
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,400
Yeah, that's if you have any questions or anything, want to talk about it more

1015
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,600
about it, we're not professionals.

1016
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,920
We're here just feeling whatever we've seen or whatever we've done.

1017
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,840
It's our opinions.

1018
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,480
We're not sure why anyone wants to listen to us talking about these things,

1019
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,160
but we're here to talk about them.

1020
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,600
It's definitely you. It's not me.

1021
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,600
They're here for you.

1022
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,280
No, no.

1023
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,640
But yeah, they, you know, we want to talk about it.

1024
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,880
If you don't agree or you think something different or you have your own thoughts,

1025
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
put them Instagram, reach out on our Instagram.

1026
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,160
We have a podcast, a couple of Chronicles podcast on TikTok and Instagram.

1027
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:43,040
And we are always to make a story, something we're always trying to get your input

1028
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,920
and just a little bit so we can address it.

1029
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:46,400
I know.

1030
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,720
Whatever you want to hear us talk more about, let us know.

1031
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,720
We like to talk. We're talkers.

1032
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,120
So that's why we started this.

1033
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,040
We're ramblers.

1034
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:57,920
We are ramblers.

1035
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,920
We are ramblers.

1036
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,640
We suck at podcasting if you haven't noticed, because we kind of just

1037
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,240
have a topic and trail off that way.

1038
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,720
A whole outline things that we really want to cover.

1039
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:14,000
We want to be more professional, but then we just start talking with our hearts,

1040
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,200
not our brains.

1041
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,400
We go off on lots of tangents and it kind of gets lost.

1042
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,360
And then all of a sudden we're looking at it and it's an hour in.

1043
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,520
And then you're got to wrap it up.

1044
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,160
Yep. Already time to go.

1045
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,640
So next week we're going to talk about

1046
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,000
the big bad word that makes me not a real swinger.

1047
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,880
Only fans.

1048
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,520
It's the worst word you could ever say.

1049
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,320
Yeah, there's a lot I have to say about that.

1050
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,280
And I've been wanting to say about that for a really long time.

1051
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
And I do get judged every day.

1052
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,120
Pretty much every day.

1053
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,880
You get judged from both sides of it.

1054
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Oh, yeah.

1055
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,400
It's very confusing.

1056
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,160
And yeah, it's been a it's been a tour to journey for my fans.

1057
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,600
But we're going to talk about that a little bit more next week and tap into that.

1058
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,720
And then filming this now, it is now Thursday.

1059
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,720
So tomorrow I'm going to Trappi's solo.

1060
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Yes. For first Friday, first Friday with Pineapples After Dark.

1061
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,800
When you're listening to this, it'll be already a week after.

1062
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,480
And then, yes, superheroes.

1063
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,080
So I and we don't do superheroes.

1064
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,240
So I'm trying to come up with a costume

1065
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,960
because this was another last minute decision to kind of go.

1066
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,600
Yeah, you weren't going until last week.

1067
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Yeah, you brought it up and you suggested it.

1068
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
And I was like, and I thought about it for a little bit.

1069
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,040
And I'm like, OK, whatever.

1070
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,680
Yeah, because I won't be able to make March and we'll have the party party.

1071
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,120
And it felt like so far away.

1072
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,920
So I'm like, yeah, yeah, because my work schedule has me.

1073
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Yeah, busy for the next month, basically.

1074
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,760
So I won't be able to get away for a weekend.

1075
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,720
So he's like, unless you just go by yourself on Friday and it's.

1076
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,960
With PAD, so it's pretty safe, and it's our people, so it'll be good.

1077
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,720
And I'm trying to come up with some kind of costume.

1078
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,280
I'm thinking, I don't know if you know secrets two years ago,

1079
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,200
a long time ago, two or three years ago, I went.

1080
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,440
He was super, super man.

1081
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Yeah, and I was Lois Lane.

1082
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,360
Yeah, so I was going to try and pull together something similar to that.

1083
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,760
But without you, it's going to be a little bit different.

1084
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,360
So I'm trying to your idea.

1085
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,840
I just have to find that.

1086
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Yeah. So we'll see.

1087
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,840
I'm sure you'll see pictures.

1088
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,400
I'm sure I'll be taking pictures of that.

1089
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,160
You'll see them on the social media by the time you listen to this.

1090
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,800
But yeah.

1091
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,600
And then we have PAD party.

1092
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,080
Yeah, the same party.

1093
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,000
We've got that.

1094
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,120
And that's my birthday weekend, March 14th, March 14th.

1095
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,840
And where's that?

1096
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,080
That's in Loganville, Georgia.

1097
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Yeah. It's an atmosphere.

1098
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,400
And we have a day.

1099
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,560
We have a link for that down below.

1100
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,040
And then after that is secrets, April's Swinger Society.

1101
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,720
Yeah, April's coming fast.

1102
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,840
It's coming quick.

1103
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,400
And I am so excited.

1104
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,720
Let me know if you want to get on the waitlist because there's a waitlist,

1105
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,000
quite a waitlist, but people are starting to back out.

1106
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,000
Yeah, everybody happens.

1107
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,480
So it booked it.

1108
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520
It booked out like really, really fast.

1109
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,520
But it was so far in advance that life happens.

1110
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:29,400
We get it and people back out.

1111
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,680
And so rooms become available and come open.

1112
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,160
So get on the waitlist.

1113
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,440
Hopefully you can get a room.

1114
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Definitely recommend secrets is our faith.

1115
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,920
We love secret.

1116
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,520
Yeah, we love it's a whole vibe.

1117
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,200
It's just three days vacation for us.

1118
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Yeah, like it's our vacation time and we take full advantage of it.

1119
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,720
Yeah. Every moment.

1120
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,320
Well, and this time we've talked about it,

1121
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
that we decided that we're not going to do a room crawl.

1122
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:54,400
Anything.

1123
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,360
But we are going to we are going to do a luncheon in our room.

1124
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Yes. All of our listeners, we're going to get you in a little secret Saturday

1125
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,600
at noon ish. I'll for sure put something on Instagram.

1126
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,080
The time and all of that.

1127
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,800
But we are bringing back Margarita's and pizza.

1128
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,440
That was always our thing at secrets.

1129
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,200
And we stopped doing it the last two terms and everyone's been super about it.

1130
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,160
So we're going to we're going to bring it back.

1131
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,200
And yeah, we're going to have like a little lunch in our room.

1132
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,320
So if you're going to be there, come, come hang out.

1133
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,840
Come say hi. Come hang out.

1134
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,880
We love pizza. I love I'll have plenty of Margarita's.

1135
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,280
I'll plenty of food, plenty of drink.

1136
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,400
And we will have all sorts of goodies.

1137
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,080
We always do. We carry a whole bunch of stuff along with us.

1138
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,280
It's a good time. I promise.

1139
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,160
It's like room one forty one.

1140
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Yeah, one forty one.

1141
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,960
So come, it's going to be good.

1142
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,960
It's going to be good.

1143
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Yeah. A whole new Tiki Bar now.

1144
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,280
So we're excited to go see it and it's going to be fun.

1145
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,360
So yeah, come along with us to secrets.

1146
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,680
Get on the wait list. Let me know and check out all of our social media.

1147
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Make sure you're following Instagram, Tick Tock.

1148
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,200
We've got all the pages and that's all in our link tree.

1149
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,720
And you can find that.

1150
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,400
Yeah, we have individual links below in the whole link tree below.

1151
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,200
So pretty much anywhere on social media you can find.

1152
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,640
Yeah, you can find everywhere you can find us.

1153
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,400
Follow us on Instagram.

1154
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,400
That's like your best bet to keep track of where I'm going to be because I am a

1155
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,680
last minute girl. She is.

1156
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Yeah, she'll pop up on you.

1157
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,000
I do never know where I want to be next.

1158
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,480
But yeah, that's all I got to say about that.

1159
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,120
Yeah. So as always, it's not that serious.

1160
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:38,640
Don't make it weird. Bye, guys.

