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Welcome to Hot Couple Chronicles,

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a podcast exploring the swinging lifestyle.

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Our discussions may contain explicit content

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and adult themes intended for mature audiences.

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While we strive to offer valuable insights and entertainment,

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please be aware that the views expressed

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are based on personal experiences and opinions.

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We encourage listeners to approach the content

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with an open mind and to prioritize communication,

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consent, and respect in their relationships.

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Remember everyone's journey is unique,

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so take what resonates with you and leave what doesn't.

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Thank you for joining us on this adventure.

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I'm Russ.

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And I'm Ashley.

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And this is Hot Couple Chronicles.

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Happy Wednesday.

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Welcome back to us again.

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Us again.

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It's been a week.

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A whole week.

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It's been a whole week.

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It's been a whole weekend.

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We had pretty much a copy-paste of last weekend.

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We just had different people this time.

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Yeah, we had the Orgrant couple this weekend.

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Yeah, we had some close friends of ours go and they all live a little too far.

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They live three, four, five plus hours.

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So we just had them here all weekend and it was a good time.

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We did a whole lot of nothing.

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It was pretty good.

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It was pretty good.

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We went to the museum.

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Yeah, we relaxed a lot.

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And then ate a lot.

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Ate a lot.

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We ate a lot.

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Yeah, we had a lot of fires.

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Hung out on the back porch.

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We did go out for dinner once.

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A lot, yeah.

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Yeah, Friday we went out to dinner.

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We went to a new restaurant that we haven't been to.

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It just opened.

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And then we had a couple drinks, came right home and ate some more food and sat by the

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fire and watched TV and watched some football Sunday and ate again on Saturday.

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I had an accident.

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Yeah, yeah, he was slicing vegetables for a tray.

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Making sense.

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I had a little mishap with the mandolin.

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They're no joke.

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Everybody be careful if you got a mandolin.

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Well, with his finger out, we thought he was just...

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I thought he just cut himself with a knife because he does that every time he cooks pretty

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much.

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Easy now.

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It happens pretty much every time he cooks.

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So that's pretty normal.

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It happens.

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I didn't realize how much he took off until he brought it to the back porch to show it.

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Yeah, it was a big old chunk of finger.

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It just got bleeding.

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It was horrible.

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Yeah, it's an open wound.

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Anyways, he was...

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Yeah, that's why his finger's all clipped up, wrapped up.

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This is a smaller bandage than what it was.

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It was pretty big.

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I didn't have it pretty...

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It's finally...

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The bleeding's gone.

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It's finally under control.

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Yeah, we went to the museum and just relaxed.

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It was a good friend weekend, good night weekend.

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Now we're here again.

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It's starting to get busy.

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It's holiday season.

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It's coming.

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I can feel it in my bones.

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Time is flying now all of a sudden.

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So fast.

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Time is going so quickly.

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Today we are here.

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We are going to talk about...

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We're going to bring it all the way back.

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We're going to rewind to the very beginning because I feel like we need to cover a lot

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of topics that we skipped forward and skipped through.

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This one's going to be all about joining the lifestyle and becoming a swinger.

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How does that even go about?

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This one's for the newbies, the new people that are interested in joining the lifestyle.

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We'll just throw around that conversation and how to even get started, how to...

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We literally get asked this question.

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Every single day.

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15 times a day.

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That's why I keep telling you we need to do an episode about this because we need to just

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talk about all the things and then be able to refer people back to it later.

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So this will be the episode that everyone comes back to, how to join the lifestyle.

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And we're going to talk more about that.

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And yeah, last week we talked about body positivity and kind of pretty much our journey.

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It ended up being...

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It goes so fast.

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Time goes so quickly that it ended up really just being our story.

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And I plan on doing more about that and touching more about body positivity and confidence

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a little bit later.

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I think it resonates with a lot of people though.

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Like even just if we talk about our story, people usually can.

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Like at least someone can relate to it.

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That's all that matters.

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If someone, one person, that helps one person.

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I tell myself every day.

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I'm good.

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How I keep going.

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That's why I'm still here.

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We're going to start out talking about that.

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But first, the simple question of what is the lifestyle?

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What is a swinger?

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What is...

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What is a swinger?

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What is that?

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In my opinion, in my own words.

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In your words.

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It is a alternative relationship model where you can centrally having physical...

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Sex.

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Physical or sexual interactions with other consenting adults.

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Yep.

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Pretty much.

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Pretty much.

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And lifestyle pretty much is an umbrella term that we all use because...

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Mostly because people hate the word swinger.

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It's an aque word for a lot of people.

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And it encompasses the lifestyle, the life of a swinger and everything that includes

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being a swinger.

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And it's...

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Honestly, for most people we know it really is just a better word.

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L.S. lifestyle, E&M, Z&M, they're all...

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They all mean pretty much the same thing.

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They're all just different terms that we use to define swinger because swinger is an aque

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word.

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And then what the lifestyle is not a reason just to cheat on people.

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That is definitely a huge physical...

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It's definitely not the lifestyle that is not what it is.

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It has nothing to do with cheating.

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It has nothing...

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It's all consensual, all communicated and all agreed upon prior to anything ever.

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Oh, yeah.

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And most people we talk to, it's months prior.

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They talk about it for...

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Years.

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There's people that...

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For a long time.

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Before they even dip their toes into it, they talk about it, fantasize about it.

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And then eventually just take the plunge and just see what...

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Go to a club, go to an event.

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Another misconception is it's not a reason just to have sex with everyone.

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That's not how it goes.

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It's not what it is.

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It's not how it is.

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It's not just a free for all, whatever, all the time, anything.

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It's not an excuse to just have sex.

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That is a big one because we've talked to a lot of people that think...

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Are afraid to go to a club because they think...

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They assume that you have to have sex when you walk in the door.

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Or a party or...

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They assume that you have to...

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Completely.

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They just strip down naked and have sex immediately as soon as you walk in.

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You don't think it can be as evolved or not evolved as you like what you're comfortable

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with.

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And a club is just a regular club with playrooms.

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Other than that, it's 100% just a nightclub that you see porn on the TV.

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That's scary.

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Everybody is always so terrified to go to a club and then different benefits of being

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in the lifestyle.

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What would you say are some of the benefits?

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The arc communication.

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Being able to explore with your partner.

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With fellow fantasies.

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Fuck it, Liz.

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And just travel too and just spend time together is a good one, a big one.

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And then, so it just...there's not many...most people you get married to, a lot of people,

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not most people, but a lot of people just give up on all of those fantasies.

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A lot of people have a lot of things that they fantasize about.

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It's not normal to have fantasies about sex.

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Also, really toxic relationship dynamics stem from that though.

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Like resentment, a lot of men and women resort to porn to try and fulfill those fantasies.

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Infidelity.

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Yeah, I would say it that way.

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They can't communicate.

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They can't talk about what they fantasize and what they really want in the bedroom or behind

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closed doors with their partner.

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So they look for another outlet to fulfill that.

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And then it just...it's a downward spiral.

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It's a way to actually safely and consensually fulfill these things that you think about

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and you dream about and you want.

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Especially a lot of people are bisexual and have kind of, you know, or a different sexuality

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than heterosexual and they want to test it out and try it out and see how they like it

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or try different things or explore that more when they weren't able to.

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And a lot of times when you get married, that's another thing that you just got to accept

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that you will probably never get to experience.

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In my case, like being with a woman or a man or for you.

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And again, then it leads to a lot of stuff like you were saying, resentment and stifled

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feelings and cheating affairs.

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Not be able to express yourself, period.

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Stems, resentment.

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And then also the lifestyle is about community and finding, meeting people that are just pretty awesome.

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People that we love.

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And the community is most of what we do.

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Most of the time.

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It's just a...in general, it's just an amazing group of people being their genuine true selves.

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They don't have to put up this facade of...

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As long as you go to an event...

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What they're supposed to do.

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You are a newbie, you will definitely...you'll see.

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You'll be like, oh, I'll get it.

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Everyone in the lifestyle knows that it is a fact that the best human beings in this world are in the lifestyle.

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For sure.

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Period.

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And luckily when we go to these events and clubs and stuff like that, we get to have them all in one room and all in one space.

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And it's pretty fucking amazing.

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That's one of my favorite things.

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It's the best humans.

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It's the community that we have and the people that have your back and love you and are there.

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And that is, for me, my number one favorite thing about being in the lifestyle at all.

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And the people that has brought us.

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And it's definitely taken to my life.

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And enhanced.

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We definitely found some ride or dies.

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The people you can call at 3 a.m. for any reason whatsoever and they answer.

270
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Most of them because they don't sleep.

271
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And they're up all night and they're like, oh, that's the most reason.

272
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And then how do you decide if the lifestyle is right for you?

273
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And if that's something that you settle upon and think maybe that is something that you and yourself could be interested in?

274
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First step, within yourself, why?

275
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Why?

276
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You know?

277
00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:50,560
Yeah.

278
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What do you want to get out of these experiences?

279
00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:54,560
What do you want to explore more?

280
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Right.

281
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What are your bucket bucket lists?

282
00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:01,560
Like what are some fantasies and things that you want to do?

283
00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:05,560
Definitely sit back and think about what is it that intrigues you about this.

284
00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:09,560
That's where it really starts with a lot of people is it's a fantasy.

285
00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:16,560
And then once they have done, you've done your self reflecting, you've sat on it with your own self on the reasons why you would you're intrigued by this.

286
00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,560
The reasons why you want to approach your partner with this.

287
00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:20,560
The reasons why you might be interested.

288
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This might be something that you and your spouse might enjoy.

289
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Some of the reasons figure out your motivations.

290
00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,560
What are your motivations?

291
00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:28,560
What are your?

292
00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:32,560
What do you want more intimacy with your partner?

293
00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,560
Is it something like that?

294
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,560
Is it something to do with your relationship?

295
00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,560
Is it more of exploring a variety of different people?

296
00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:40,560
Yeah.

297
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Is it curiosity about your sexuality?

298
00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:47,560
No, a sexuality thing or is it you're looking for a community of people.

299
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You just want to hang out naked and have like minded people surrounding you and just have friends.

300
00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,560
And or do you just want to have sex with as many people as you possibly can?

301
00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,560
And which is perfectly OK.

302
00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,560
Or do you just want to have sex with your partner and just have people around?

303
00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:02,560
Yeah.

304
00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:06,560
That's why I was saying like, do you want to make it more of an intimacy thing between you and your spouse?

305
00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:11,560
Is it more of you want to watch other people having sex with your spouse or do you want to have sex?

306
00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,560
Have people watching you have sex?

307
00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,560
Do you just want to be in a club environment with your spouse?

308
00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,560
Figure out what are your motivations on top of why?

309
00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,560
What is it that intrigues you about this?

310
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Why?

311
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Make sure that you've sat down on it for a second and think about why you.

312
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Why starting you on or why you're.

313
00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:38,560
Yeah, I think it's the self-reflection of what you want to get out of it and then talking to your partner about it.

314
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That comes next.

315
00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:44,560
But before you do that, I think you sit on it for a second and work through it and everything.

316
00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:48,560
And then the next step is talking to your partner about it.

317
00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,560
The next step, you've got to pull a plug.

318
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You've got to do it.

319
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Yeah, like you can't keep it a secret.

320
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329
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And then the next big step is going to your partner and talking to your partner about it.

330
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Pulling the plug.

331
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How do you know about that?

332
00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:40,560
I've heard a couple things like pillow talk after sex.

333
00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,560
Like talking about different fantasies and stuff like that.

334
00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,560
And how you would go about fulfilling those fantasies.

335
00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:52,560
Yeah, just as simple as what do you think about?

336
00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:57,560
Or I think it'd be hot to have sex next to other people having sex.

337
00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:58,560
Or not even that.

338
00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:03,560
Just have you ever seen anything about this?

339
00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:04,560
Yes.

340
00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:09,560
Or have you ever seen that there are couples that have sex with other couples?

341
00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,560
Have you ever heard of swangers?

342
00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:12,560
Have you ever heard of the lifestyle?

343
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,560
Have you ever heard of upside down pineapples?

344
00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:15,560
What do you think about it?

345
00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:23,560
And then like now social media, just go send her or him a TikTok or Instagram reel or something and just what I'm saying.

346
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,560
A podcast.

347
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:30,560
Yeah, or a podcast or episode highlight, like a highlight reel or something and just be like, so what do you think about that?

348
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,560
I think it would be hot.

349
00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,560
Like just bring up that conversation.

350
00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,560
And send them some hints.

351
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,560
Sometimes they need a few little breadcrumbs.

352
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560
Just, I don't know, this is interesting.

353
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:48,560
The biggest concern I hear people is they're afraid their partner is going to feel inadequate.

354
00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:56,560
And that's never the case when people that are serious about getting into the lifestyle, they want to add some.

355
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,560
We know that.

356
00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,560
But it's hard.

357
00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:07,560
We're basically blindsided by it, it's a knee jerk reaction to just automatically, I'm not enough.

358
00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,560
Something's wrong.

359
00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,560
It's because I'm not enough.

360
00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:16,560
That's the biggest fear I have gathered from a lot of people that haven't brought this up.

361
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,560
I'm not going to lie.

362
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,560
I'm really glad that we found it together because I really don't know if I would have ever even, I don't know.

363
00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,560
It's never, it never was in my fantasy list.

364
00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560
It was never even an option for me.

365
00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,560
I never even.

366
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,560
I didn't even know it existed.

367
00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560
I never thought about swinging.

368
00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,560
No, never.

369
00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,560
Not even, it's weird, but not even really even a threesome.

370
00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,560
It was like when we got married, we were just married and our sex was us.

371
00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,560
It was very much just like that.

372
00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,560
I never really thought about threesomes.

373
00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,560
No.

374
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,560
And I've had threesomes, I've had swaps and stuff since I was 17 years old.

375
00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,560
And I never once even with you was like, oh yeah, this is something that we should do ever.

376
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,560
Which I don't know, maybe down the road it would have maybe come up with.

377
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,560
It's hard to, it's hard to.

378
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,560
I always watch you like kiss girls.

379
00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,560
Yeah, I've always done.

380
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,560
I've always flirted with girls, kissed girls, everything, but it was never really.

381
00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560
I never even considered it.

382
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,560
Like, oh my gosh, you just kissing a girl.

383
00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,560
Like it's, she's having fun.

384
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,560
It was just very much like when the opportunity arises, he was always down for watching me kiss girls.

385
00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,560
Oh yeah.

386
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:30,560
Just can't be sexing and flirty and playful and stuff, but never once was like, oh, let's go find another couple and swap partners or anything.

387
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,560
I don't know.

388
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,560
See, it's hard to say what would have came up or what would not have come up.

389
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:46,560
I do know for a fact, I watch far less pornography nowadays than I did before we found lifestyle.

390
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:58,560
So it tells me I am more satisfied now and that's saying maybe down the road I would have brought something up like I did with BDSM.

391
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,560
You would have stumbled upon it maybe.

392
00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560
But again, it's hard to say.

393
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,560
And again, I don't, I'm not sure how I would approach you with it.

394
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:13,560
I'm going to, that's why I'm giving out the tips for the things I would hope, I would think that I would do and different.

395
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,560
We've heard so many different stories.

396
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,560
Try and say how I would want to be approached by it.

397
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:31,560
And again, it's a weird awkward conversation at first, but you have to be able to have those weird awkward conversations in the lifestyle.

398
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,560
That's just the first of many.

399
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:43,560
If you go down this road, because you're going to have to get used to processing your emotions.

400
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,560
And then verbalizing those emotions in a unhurtful way to your partner.

401
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,560
And then being able to receive those.

402
00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:04,560
And then after you've approached your partner and if that partner is completely turned off and upset and not okay with it, you have to respect that.

403
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,560
You have to be okay with that.

404
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,560
You have to let them sit on that.

405
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:15,560
You can't expect somebody like when you come to me out of the blue, they've never even mentioned this stuff about be like, okay, let's do it.

406
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,560
Yeah.

407
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,560
There are people like that.

408
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560
There are a lot of us out there.

409
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,560
But it takes some processing.

410
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,560
And that some people are not, they're not going to ever be anonymous.

411
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,560
It's okay.

412
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,560
Sometimes you're like your spouse is just going to be an anonymous person and they want to be like that forever.

413
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,560
And there's nothing wrong with that.

414
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,560
That's one thing.

415
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,560
Hey, everybody thinks I'm trying to convince people to swing on social media all the time and doing this.

416
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560
And that's not the case whatsoever.

417
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:49,560
I'm reaching the people that want to be reached and that I should be reached and that are curious about it and that are interested and they're looking for this.

418
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,560
But I am definitely not trying to sell the lifestyle to anyone.

419
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,560
Some people are never going to be non-monogamous.

420
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,560
They're 100% be monogamous and okay with that.

421
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,560
And that's fine.

422
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,560
And no judgment.

423
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,560
If your partner says no, that's a hard no.

424
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,560
It's never going to happen.

425
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,560
You have to respect that.

426
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:13,560
And that's what we run into every single day is the wife or the husband saying, yeah, I see my spouse will never do it.

427
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,560
I see it in the DMs all the time.

428
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,560
From both the wife and the husband.

429
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,560
How do I make her do it?

430
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,560
How do I make him?

431
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,560
How do I talk my...

432
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,560
Yeah, talk them into it.

433
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560
Talk them into it.

434
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,560
They said no.

435
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,560
You don't talk them into it.

436
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560
And how do I get them to change their mind?

437
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560
And you can't.

438
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,560
You can't.

439
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,560
You cannot.

440
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,560
You can keep talking about it.

441
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,560
Open up the conversation.

442
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,560
You can get down about it.

443
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,560
Get uncomfortable and make it a real conversation.

444
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:46,560
But in the end, if that person says no, this is not anything I'm ever going to be interested in and it's never going to happen, you have to sit on it for you.

445
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,560
If it's that serious and you can without a doubt not be a monogamous person, then you have to...

446
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560
That's a lot of work that you have to do.

447
00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:01,560
Self-work and decisions you have to make and stuff you have to sit on because that's also a thing where people just are not monogamous.

448
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,560
They just can't be monogamous and that's also okay.

449
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,560
And that's fine.

450
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,560
But maybe I'm very big on be happy.

451
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,560
Spend your life being happy.

452
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,560
Right.

453
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560
And don't be unhappy.

454
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560
But regardless, you're going to have those hard conversations.

455
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,560
That's what I mean.

456
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,560
Yeah.

457
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:24,560
Like even if it's that, if you're that serious about it and you feel like, you know, we can't do this.

458
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560
I can't be in this relationship.

459
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,560
One, you can't use it as an ultimatum.

460
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,560
Like it's not an ultimatum.

461
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,560
This is a foundation of trust.

462
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,560
And then...

463
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,560
Keep having conversation.

464
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,560
Keep talking.

465
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,560
Just keep talking.

466
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,560
So is that actually your forever relationship?

467
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,560
Yeah.

468
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,560
And sometimes...

469
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,560
Sometimes it's not.

470
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,560
Make that decision too, but...

471
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,560
And that's fine.

472
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,560
No.

473
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560
It was good that you found that, but you have to...

474
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,560
Be happy living with someone else.

475
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,560
Yeah.

476
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,560
Live your best life.

477
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,560
Live your best life.

478
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560
Yeah.

479
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560
You got to work on that though.

480
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560
And then if that conversation stays open, you know, there's going to be concerns.

481
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,560
There's going to be fears.

482
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,560
There's going to be worries.

483
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,560
There's going to be...

484
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,560
It's going to be, again, going to be uncomfortable conversations full of that stuff.

485
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,560
And there are a lot of fears.

486
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:17,560
Most of the fears, like we were saying, was it's supernatural to be jealous and have jealous feelings and to feel like not enough and to feel inadequate and question why you need someone.

487
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560
As a man, it's, oh, she just...

488
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,560
I'm not...

489
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,560
I don't satisfy her.

490
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,560
Like your ego, like as a man, your ego automatically comes forward.

491
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,560
Is I don't satisfy her.

492
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560
I'm not good enough.

493
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,560
I don't...

494
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,560
I'm not big enough.

495
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,560
I don't laugh long enough.

496
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,560
It's a lack of something when that's not the case.

497
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,560
And you're adding to something already incredible.

498
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,560
It has nothing to do with needing to fix anything ever.

499
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,560
This is never a way to fix a relationship.

500
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,560
It's never a way to solve problems.

501
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,560
It's never a way to start conversation.

502
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:53,560
You need to do that stuff way before you even anticipate, even think about getting into a style.

503
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,560
Because that's what I also tell everyone as well.

504
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,560
Go slow and take your time.

505
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,560
And just for words of affirmation for those feelings is the cheat codes to your partner.

506
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,560
No one's going to do it better than you.

507
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560
It's super normal to feel like that.

508
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,560
It's okay.

509
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,560
It is.

510
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,560
You have to be okay.

511
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,560
And that's like I said, it's like a foundation of your trust at the beginning of your lifestyle journey.

512
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,560
It starts here.

513
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,560
You have to be open and willing to have those conversations and to not get defensive and not get...

514
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,560
Yeah, you have to be open and nonjudgmental.

515
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,560
You have to be able to be on both sides of that conversation.

516
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:38,560
And then to help navigate the fears and the concerns, usually what we do is we have rules, boundaries, stuff that we put into place.

517
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Lay down the foundation of what this is going to look like.

518
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,560
How that's going to look, what you're okay with, what you're not okay with, what your limits are.

519
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,560
Yeah.

520
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,560
And they're always changing.

521
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,560
Yeah, they're never set in stone.

522
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,560
We've met many couples in lots of different stages of their journey.

523
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,560
And we've met people from...

524
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,560
No kissing.

525
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,560
No kissing.

526
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,560
Another really common one is communication, like group texts and messages.

527
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,560
No solo communication.

528
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:19,560
We had the pretty common same room protection, communication together.

529
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,560
They're pretty common ones.

530
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,560
And now at this point, we pretty much are down to protection and...

531
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,560
Communication.

532
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,560
Yeah, just communication.

533
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,560
That's pretty much it.

534
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,560
Consent, communication.

535
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,560
Those are our big things about where we are now at this point.

536
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,560
But it's really what's for you.

537
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,560
You can change that.

538
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,560
Yeah, you can change it.

539
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,560
That's three years in and lots of experience.

540
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,560
As you become more comfortable and more secure as a couple, you're always evolving.

541
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560
You should always sit down and go over those again.

542
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,560
So your boundaries are always...

543
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560
Yeah, adjust them, figure them out.

544
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,560
It's a way also for your spouse to feel a little bit more...

545
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Because you can make those boundaries and you can make those limits, I guess.

546
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,560
Anything that you want them to.

547
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560
Any rule, any...

548
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,560
There's no...

549
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,560
That was the one thing that I wanted to really drive home on this episode is there is no rule book.

550
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,560
There is no Bible that we go by.

551
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560
There is no has to be this, has to be not.

552
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560
The only thing that it has to be is consensual.

553
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,560
And that's pretty much unsafe.

554
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Those are the only things.

555
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,560
A lot of people don't think about it.

556
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,560
It can be whatever you want it to be.

557
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,560
People...

558
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,560
I think that's the really...

559
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560
You can only kiss people.

560
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,560
You can only...

561
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Not kiss people.

562
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560
You can only kiss people's feet if you only want to kiss people's feet.

563
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,560
You can make it whatever you want it to be.

564
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,560
I think a lot more we get that question is about, oh, how do I get a lifestyle?

565
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,560
They're looking for a rule book.

566
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,560
That tells me they're out there.

567
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Many people are making them.

568
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,560
It's bullshit.

569
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,560
But step back and it can be whatever turns you on, whatever doesn't turn you on.

570
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,560
Whatever you want it to be.

571
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:02,560
And as long as it's consensual and it works between you and whoever is participating, that's all that matters.

572
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,560
It doesn't matter how odd it looks, how different it looks.

573
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,560
There's no one way fits all, one size fits all, anything like that.

574
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560
It can be whatever you dream it to be.

575
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Absolutely.

576
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,560
That's the most important thing we always try to tell people.

577
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,560
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582
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We're going to do a little hypothetical just to help us out.

583
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,560
I came to you, said I was interested in navigating the lifestyle.

584
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560
I found it on TikTok.

585
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,560
I thought it was interesting and I thought it was pretty hot.

586
00:25:52,560 --> 00:26:00,560
I talked about it with you told me your concerns and we worked, we're working on it.

587
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:06,560
We set boundaries and we're now ready to like dip our toe in.

588
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Where do we go next?

589
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,560
Online.

590
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Get on the internet together and start learning.

591
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,560
Start researching.

592
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,560
Get all the information you possibly can.

593
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Learn about the lifestyle first together and educate yourselves together on the ways to go about it and different things to.

594
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Different ways to navigate.

595
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Just educate yourself because you're going to be a lot more confident.

596
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:42,560
Enjoy your lifestyle if you are, you're educated and if you know what to do and to do that there is so many online communities out there.

597
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,560
There's STC, SLS, Cassidy, all of them have educational content in within them.

598
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,560
And then there's social media.

599
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:57,560
There's lots of influencers and people out there that teach you and give you information and share a few terms.

600
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:10,560
And get familiar with words and terms and things you might hear and just because you will be more confident the more you know about a topic, the more you can walk in feeling like you know what's going down the better.

601
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Because that is definitely going to make you feel better about the whole thing.

602
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560
And then go online and make profiles.

603
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Start making profiles on all the accounts or like all of the sites.

604
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Detailed profiles.

605
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560
Yes, make sure to spend some time on your profiles.

606
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Put some effort, some time into it because trust me, it'll pay off if you do.

607
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,560
And take good, clean, bright pictures.

608
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560
And you don't have to show your face.

609
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,560
You could show whatever you want but just make sure that they're bright.

610
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,560
There's some light.

611
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Make sure they're attractive.

612
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560
You don't have to show your face.

613
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560
But if you don't want to show your face, you have to show like something.

614
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,560
At least.

615
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Light.

616
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,560
Put some light.

617
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Oh, we get say like on SDC, SLS, Free Fun.

618
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
You want your profile to look attractive.

619
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:03,560
We get a lot of messages and I honestly I ignore a lot of them because you can't see anything.

620
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,560
And I get their profile and it's super vague.

621
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Oh, here for a good time.

622
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Yeah.

623
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
And we know absolutely nothing about you.

624
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,560
You give us nothing.

625
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560
I love when people put effort and time into their profile.

626
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Yeah.

627
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560
And describe who they are as people.

628
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Approach it like you're dating again.

629
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Yeah.

630
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,560
But you're dating with your partner.

631
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Essentially that's what it is.

632
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,560
It's a dating profile.

633
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,560
And put some effort, put some time.

634
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,560
And unfortunately, like you're going to have to put some money into it.

635
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,560
There's a way to do the lifestyle without all of that and all the extra stuff.

636
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,560
But it sure makes life heck of a lot easier if you have a connection to all those people that are in the lifestyle.

637
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:44,560
And then you'll find on there, you'll find events and it'll open up the doors for all of the clubs.

638
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Well, like when you see, like when we go through SDC, just for example, you can see if they're a paid member, a lifetime member, a free trial member.

639
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,560
You can see that.

640
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:06,560
You take the people that have paid memberships and lifetime memberships more serious than you do somebody that's on a trial.

641
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Yeah.

642
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Someone just testing it out.

643
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Someone just being nosy.

644
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Someone just looking in.

645
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,560
Yeah, because you don't know those people's motives.

646
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Because I hate to say it, but it happens is people make fake profiles like everywhere else.

647
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:34,560
And most people that make a fake profile aren't going to spend money on that fake profile.

648
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Yeah.

649
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,560
And usually a lot of them when you pay, you do have to verify and you do have to have some kind of check to make sure that is who you are.

650
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:58,560
I know when I made our 3FUN app, our 3FUN profile years and years ago, we put our pictures up and then we had to take pictures together with doing certain things just to verify that we're...

651
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,560
Hold a sign up saying your name, your birthday, all the things.

652
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Yeah.

653
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,560
And you have to...

654
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,560
It comes along with a lot of verification.

655
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Yeah, and it's in the picture.

656
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560
But like just go and stuff like that.

657
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Like you get verified rooms, you get special things that you can be a part of.

658
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
It's nice to be verified on all of these websites.

659
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,560
There is so many websites, so many.

660
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560
And then Facebook, there's groups of people.

661
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,560
If you're looking for local, Facebook is a good place to look for locally.

662
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560
That's how we found PAD and groups like that.

663
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,560
There's a few of them that we've been a part of and lots of different things and stuff.

664
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:37,560
But fortunately though, a lot of times you have to get a connection with somebody already in those groups.

665
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:46,560
So you have to have an SDC or SLS or 3FUN to meet somebody in the lifestyle and connect with those people.

666
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:53,560
And then they will...they can invite you because you can't search up a lot of these Facebook groups.

667
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,560
They're private.

668
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,560
You just can't put them in a search engine and pop up.

669
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,560
It's a very discrete lifestyle, so you have to find the people.

670
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,560
That's why we say go onto SDC, SLS, Cassidy, one of them.

671
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,560
And they've been here for decades upon decades.

672
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:16,560
And then on those websites, the best part about being a part of SDC and SLS and them is that that's where most big events post all their events.

673
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,560
And all of the clubs that you could find are all in the directory there.

674
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:29,560
And you'll find...you can go by state and find exactly where your local meet and greets are, where your local clubs are, where your local events are.

675
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,560
And that's the main reason why I do well.

676
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Search zip code and then...

677
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Everything around. Yeah.

678
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:39,560
And then the private, more private things and the meet and mingles and the greets and stuff like that, you can find that.

679
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,560
And you can...there's lots of groups that have profiles on there.

680
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,560
And you're going to a place...

681
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Yeah, like little local groups have their own like groups.

682
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,560
And you can see who's going to that event or who's RSVP to this or that.

683
00:31:53,560 --> 00:32:05,560
And it's a good place to go on there and start connections with people that you're like, hey, this person's coming to this event that I'm going to, you know, starting that connection and going into it with not just being alone too.

684
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:11,560
You can find somebody that you're familiar with and that you know ahead of time or that has been and you can ask questions and stuff.

685
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:18,560
The more you're educated, the more confident you will be, I promise, if you know what you're going into and know where you're going.

686
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:30,560
And then we get on STC and SLS and those sites and you get to looking, deciding on what kind of event that you want to try first, whether it be a club or a meet and greet or what's the difference between all of these things.

687
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,560
I guess we should start there.

688
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Oh, the difference between...

689
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Each thing.

690
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,560
So when we say an event, we'll just...

691
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Okay. So you're...

692
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Take over.

693
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Or...

694
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,560
A club.

695
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Like it's just like it sounds.

696
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,560
It's a nightclub.

697
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Yeah.

698
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,560
That...

699
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
You have to get a membership and it's like an exclusive private little club.

700
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,560
Right.

701
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,560
But all in all, it's a normal nightclub with usually with playrooms in the back and...

702
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,560
And a dance floor.

703
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560
...rules posted and dance floors and usually a DJ.

704
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Usually a great time.

705
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,560
And it's a nightclub with sometimes the option, sometimes not the option to have sex.

706
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,560
And then you have a house party, which are usually invite only, private.

707
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,560
Yeah.

708
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,560
Yeah.

709
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Smaller.

710
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Like somebody's house.

711
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Yeah.

712
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,560
That's why it's a lot more...

713
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Yeah.

714
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,560
A lot more if you know...

715
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Somebody's house is usually a...

716
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Private invitation thing.

717
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Like a friend group that's known to everybody and like...

718
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Facebook has a lot of house parties.

719
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560
You'll find all the house parties on Facebook.

720
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,560
Facebook is like the place that you find house parties.

721
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Yeah.

722
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,560
You get into the groups and in your local groups, I guarantee there's a ton of these

723
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,560
little tiny groups that they like to get together at people's houses and have their own little

724
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,560
version of Hotel Takeover and these little house parties.

725
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,560
And you'll find like where the people like they'll have quote unquote like mansion takeovers

726
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,560
and stuff like that where it's a lot like a house party.

727
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Yeah.

728
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,560
But they have Airbnb, somebody that has a rental house that they let them use it.

729
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,560
Smaller.

730
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Smaller.

731
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Usually a smaller group.

732
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Usually I'd say a normal house party is what?

733
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
25 to 30, 40 people.

734
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Yeah.

735
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Yeah.

736
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,560
I'd say 10 to...

737
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,560
I definitely recommend if you're going to a house party to know at least somebody before

738
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,560
you go.

739
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,560
We went to a house party, the only house party we've ever been to.

740
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,560
And that was...

741
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,560
Yeah.

742
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,560
We didn't know one single person there.

743
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,560
That was advertised.

744
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560
It was intimidating because it was someone's house.

745
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,560
And that felt so different.

746
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,560
That felt different.

747
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Walking in the front door right into the kitchen.

748
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Into their house and they were all on the porch hanging out talking.

749
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560
We didn't know a single soul there.

750
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,560
We didn't.

751
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,560
We were invited.

752
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,560
It was from a Facebook group that we were in and we were invited, but we didn't know

753
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,560
anyone and I wish you would have set some kind of communication up with a couple.

754
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Yeah.

755
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,560
We didn't know anyone.

756
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,560
So we didn't do anyone because it was hard to talk to a lot of people.

757
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,560
We did.

758
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,560
We ended up meeting a lot of people and it was fine and it was fun.

759
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,760
But going into it, especially if that was my first experience, I would have definitely

760
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,760
been terrified.

761
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,760
Right?

762
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,760
Because I was almost dead.

763
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,760
At this point, yeah.

764
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,760
It was an experience for us.

765
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,760
At that point, we were already seasoned.

766
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,760
I don't know.

767
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,760
I was pretty close to running too.

768
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,760
It was intimidating.

769
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,560
It definitely took us out of our comfort zone.

770
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,560
For sure.

771
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560
It was good.

772
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Before that house party, we were going to takeovers and secrets with a lot of people

773
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,320
we'd known for a while.

774
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,320
So it took us out of the comfort zone where we were forced to meet new people, which I

775
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,200
think was really actually good for us.

776
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,040
But then after the house parties, you would have, I'd say floor parties like hotels where

777
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,000
they take over just one floor.

778
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Yeah.

779
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
That's pretty much all a hotel takeover.

780
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,720
They just take over either a floor or a block or the entire hotel.

781
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,720
And you're at a hotel, usually a weekend thing, usually a whole weekend thing.

782
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,400
And then you have resorts like Hito and you've got secrets.

783
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,920
If that's more your vibe, maybe you just want to do a spicy vacation once a year.

784
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,200
You're just looking for an experience once or just somewhere tropical or somewhere warm,

785
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,560
somewhere you can relax, more vacation.

786
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Then you have lifestyle friendly that aren't really lifestyle resorts like Temptations.

787
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Yeah.

788
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,720
And Desire, which aren't technically lifestyle resorts, but they're lifestyle friendly.

789
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,720
And then you have like mixers and meet and greets.

790
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,240
That's usually just at a bar or in a restaurant or something like that.

791
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,440
And you just show up and it's just hang out, get a drink or get something to eat and just

792
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,440
meet other people.

793
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,760
It's very vanilla.

794
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,080
And yeah, just hang out.

795
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Hanging out, meeting people.

796
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Smaller group of people usually.

797
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,120
And it's just, it's in a vanilla setting.

798
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,840
Usually there's other people around usually.

799
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Yeah.

800
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,200
But there's no people and families and stuff like that, nothing crazy.

801
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,960
So we would just hang out and talk and just, yeah, it's just, it's a mean, like any other

802
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,960
mean greatness.

803
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Yeah.

804
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,080
And then on the other side of that, you also can just connect with a couple and go out

805
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,080
on a date.

806
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Yeah.

807
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Dating is very, very normal.

808
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,080
That's very normal.

809
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,080
We do it.

810
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,240
We still date people and go out to dinner and go places with them on the side.

811
00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:00,200
Go out to dinner, go out to meet new people and just connect, make connections.

812
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,640
We went to the Mexican restaurant.

813
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Longhorn.

814
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Longhorn.

815
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Yeah.

816
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,720
Threefun was our app for pretty much the first year and a half.

817
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,120
We met a lot of our local friends.

818
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,120
Yeah.

819
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480
At Threefun you'll find people like directly on top of you.

820
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Like where you live.

821
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,640
It's a local app.

822
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360
It's an app that you can pull up people based on distance.

823
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,120
So I mean, SEC and as well as that too, but this app is just an app.

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Like it's like right.

825
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,120
It works well like Tinder.

826
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Yeah.

827
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,840
And it's like this person is 0.8 miles away and stuff like that.

828
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,120
But that's how we found a lot of our local friends.

829
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,760
And then we would just get on there, connect, get onto a kick or snap or something on the

830
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,200
side or text or whatever.

831
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,680
And then we would go out to dinner and stuff.

832
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,840
And that might make it a little bit easier for you too.

833
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Maybe that's more your style.

834
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,640
Maybe more two on two or two on one scenario or two on four, however many people you take

835
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,640
on a date.

836
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
But maybe that's more of your vibe.

837
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,400
And let's say find an event or find a club or find a hotel takeover or whatever.

838
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,000
It is that you're going to Zoom.

839
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Book it.

840
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,360
Go on that date.

841
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Take the date.

842
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Go plan ahead of time and just keep on communicating.

843
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,600
Keep talking.

844
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Yeah.

845
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,960
You got to keep open line of communication with your partner.

846
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Don't test the waters.

847
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,040
Go very slowly.

848
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,320
That's my biggest recommendation is go in with no expectations at all.

849
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,840
Don't walk in expecting to have sex with anyone at all.

850
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,680
And just take your time.

851
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Don't let the person that's most excited about it lead the way.

852
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Stay at the pace of the most apprehensive person because you don't want to push those

853
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,920
people into uncomfortable situations.

854
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,600
You want to be comfortable.

855
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:48,640
And I just recommend going as a couple, as a you thing, as a date, as a let's go experience

856
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,640
the environment.

857
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Let's go see what this is about.

858
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Let's go meet people.

859
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Let's go meet people.

860
00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Go in and into it and just go into it wanting to meet people and learn as much as you possibly.

861
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,200
I think that's the number one thing is just it's not that serious.

862
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Don't make it weird.

863
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,720
It can just be going and sitting down and having dinner at a club and just meeting people

864
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,780
and talking to people and seeing what's going on.

865
00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:16,780
Dance for a little bit and go home.

866
00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:18,640
It doesn't have to be.

867
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Just like the club or hotel takeovers or even floor parties.

868
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,680
It's so much going on.

869
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,680
It's overwhelming.

870
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,240
You have to have time to acclimate.

871
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,240
Yeah.

872
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,600
And there's no it's there's so much going on.

873
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,160
There's so much stuff to see.

874
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Yeah.

875
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,040
And you're your first time there and you're not and no one's going to you might be proposed.

876
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
You might be asked, but there's no one's going to.

877
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,760
No one's going to approach you for the most part and other than a friendly.

878
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,760
Yeah, they're going to approach you.

879
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,520
But even if you are approached to go play, there's no aggressive or anything.

880
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,440
It's going to be just a friendly.

881
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,280
Get to know your conversation and a normal conversation that you have with the grocery

882
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,680
store is people that you meet.

883
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,040
You're not going to see.

884
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,040
No pressure.

885
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,240
Yeah, that's what I was trying to the word I was looking for.

886
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,240
There's no pressure.

887
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,240
That's what I was trying to do.

888
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,320
If you feel any pressure, don't be afraid to say no to back out of that situation.

889
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,240
But for the most part, I guarantee you know, I'm going to be mad.

890
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,240
What's your name?

891
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,240
And by hearing.

892
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,440
Yeah, it's going to be very even when if you go on a date with another couple or anything

893
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,760
like that, it's just a normal regular.

894
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,960
I have to dinner with anyone that you don't know.

895
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Get to know them people and talk to the people and get to know them and I get their planes

896
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,160
a little bit.

897
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,160
You're similar in some ways.

898
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,280
How long have you guys been a lifestyle?

899
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600
What got you guys in the lifestyle?

900
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Tell people don't be afraid to tell people that you don't know what you're doing, that

901
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,720
this is your first time that you have no idea what's going on.

902
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:50,600
And everyone in this lifestyle that I've ever met has been nothing but friendly and nice

903
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,400
and caring and they're willing to answer all the questions if you have the right attitude.

904
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,080
And if you go into it and you want to learn, there are people that are going to teach you.

905
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,040
There are so many people out there willing to grab your hand because I know the people

906
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:09,040
like we've met a lot of people where it was their first event, first takeover, first club

907
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680
experience when we met a lot of people.

908
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,880
Yeah.

909
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,320
And I always like to hear their perspective anyway.

910
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Like, what do you think?

911
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,040
That's how you find events and stuff.

912
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,920
That's another thing that I didn't bring up was finding events, finding clubs, finding

913
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,560
all of these house parties, these hotel takeovers, all of that.

914
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Go in there and look at the reviews and ask people what their favorite hotel takeover

915
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,040
is, what their favorite club is, what, especially locally, like where do they go and hang out?

916
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,280
Where do they enjoy going on dates?

917
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Where they enjoy going to the club, going to the takeover and stuff like that and get

918
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:47,440
people's recommendation on legit events, you know, in clubs and stuff that have all the

919
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,440
things that you need, the safety and the, you know, a good time too that draws a good

920
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,840
crowd, a good group of people.

921
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,360
Well, depending on what vibe you're looking for, what kind of atmosphere it brings and

922
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,980
the reputation is a lot.

923
00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:06,880
Make sure that the hosts are, you know, have some education and they know what they're

924
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,880
doing and they're an exercise.

925
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,720
Cause every host and every party vibe is a little bit different.

926
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,120
So you just have to match your vibe and you have to figure it out.

927
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,080
It's all like I said, there's no playbook.

928
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,880
It's all trial and error.

929
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,340
You have to have people recommend so many different things to you and so many different

930
00:42:24,340 --> 00:42:26,560
resorts and places to go and everything.

931
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,320
And each person is going to have something that they, we like to hang out with certain

932
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,040
groups because we just like the vibe, you know, and it's just, this is the group of

933
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,320
people that these people attract or other people that we're attracted to.

934
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,440
And those are obviously ones that we're going to go to and spend money on.

935
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,880
Everybody's going to find that group too, like their own group.

936
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680
So you're going to find, you got to find your people and then to do that, you're going to

937
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,280
just go and test it out and try it out and get, talk to people, more people that you

938
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,280
meet.

939
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,280
We've, I've heard both spectrums of just about every group that we've, you know, is out there.

940
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,280
Oh yeah.

941
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,280
People that love.

942
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:09,120
This group likes to do this, this group only does this, this group likes this, this one

943
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,120
I don't like about this.

944
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,560
I love this about this group.

945
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,400
You'll hear all the things and you're really going to have to just test it out and try

946
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,000
it out and see which one fits you and your partner.

947
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,960
And then once you're done, the event and everything's over and you're going and you're leaving and

948
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,400
you were there, then what, then where you go from there?

949
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,360
What we do is we unpack for, we talk about it.

950
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Yeah, like, cause again, so much is going on.

951
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,400
You have to take time.

952
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,400
It happens so fast.

953
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Yeah.

954
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,280
You're talking about this.

955
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,360
You're talking about the whole situation like that next morning.

956
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,360
Yeah.

957
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,440
You're talking about the things you saw as you heard, you're going to remember things

958
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960
and oh, did you see this or did you see that?

959
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,160
And you're going to relive these experiences and it's going to turn you both over.

960
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,000
You're going to remember details and stuff that you saw and didn't even think about it

961
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,600
until the next day.

962
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Sometimes we drive home in complete silence, but then the next morning we'll sit on the

963
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
back porch and just like start just like spewing.

964
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,240
And then sometimes we talk the entire way home nonstop about it.

965
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:23,800
It's just sometimes some experiences, some depending on what happened or sometimes it

966
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,640
is like overwhelming and you just need to self-reflection first and to sit on it for

967
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,640
a minute.

968
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,920
A lot has happened or anything, boundaries that have adjusted or changed or anything

969
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,320
or feelings that you sitting on.

970
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Sometimes driving home in silence, like it just is, there's no right or wrong way to

971
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,560
do it.

972
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,560
Sometimes you have to process it yourself before you.

973
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,560
You immediately start communicating.

974
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,560
But other times we'll be sitting.

975
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,280
Yeah, we'll sit there for eight, we've driven 13 hours and just talk straight through the

976
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,880
whole entire drive about everything.

977
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,520
So there's no right or wrong way as long as you communicate about it, as long as you talk

978
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,600
through it.

979
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,020
And then you can adjust boundaries, adjust rules.

980
00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:05,520
Maybe after that, maybe we can lose this rule or we can adjust it a little bit or maybe

981
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,920
we can back off of that one.

982
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Or I didn't like how I felt.

983
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Or maybe I don't like that and we need to add boundaries.

984
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,280
We can add rules to it to make me feel more comfortable.

985
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,240
Or maybe I didn't like, it's good and bad to talk about all of the things.

986
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:23,520
Anything that you felt, any feeling that came up, any jealousy, any uncomfortable feelings

987
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,280
that you had during the whole experience, anything that you saw that you didn't love,

988
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,320
anything about the event itself that you loved or didn't love.

989
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,520
You have to be okay with just talking each little detail about it.

990
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,520
Yeah, all of it.

991
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,700
And then so you can adjust and you can navigate and you can find out the way you're going

992
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,880
to navigate this whole journey.

993
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,200
See, there's no wrong way to do it.

994
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,200
There's no wrong way.

995
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,000
As long as it works for you guys, it doesn't.

996
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,000
As long as it works for you guys and you're talking and you're getting stronger.

997
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Yeah, it's nothing.

998
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
You're doing it right.

999
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,680
You're doing it right.

1000
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,440
So just keep on trying things.

1001
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Keep on talking about these things.

1002
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Keep on being willing to experiment and learn and be open and communicate.

1003
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,000
And if you don't enjoy yourself, try something different.

1004
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Try something else.

1005
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Right.

1006
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Try a different atmosphere.

1007
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,680
Maybe like you were saying before, like maybe hotel takeovers are your thing.

1008
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,680
They're overwhelming and they're a lot for some people.

1009
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,280
Maybe they would be better with a club night.

1010
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:28,160
I was talking to a guy, one of our friends last week or two weeks ago, something like

1011
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,160
that.

1012
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:35,200
And they were headed to a hotel takeover and he was telling me that it's really not,

1013
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,680
they're starting to get to the point where they like a more intimate setting instead

1014
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,160
of this big hotel thing.

1015
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Or there's people like, I'm bored of the small groups.

1016
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,040
I want to do something big.

1017
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
And so there's no right or wrong.

1018
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,400
There's no right or wrong.

1019
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,680
And there's like, your feelings are valid and you're okay.

1020
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Like you're okay.

1021
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,680
It's okay to feel that way.

1022
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,040
And it's okay to have preferences.

1023
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,040
And it's okay.

1024
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,840
You can pick and choose and make this journey exactly what you want it to be.

1025
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,360
There's no right or wrong way.

1026
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,760
It can take me tailored to your liking.

1027
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Just go slow.

1028
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,160
No expectations.

1029
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,760
Just have a good time.

1030
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Just enjoy yourself.

1031
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,560
And don't let other people push their expectations on you.

1032
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,920
No, it's okay.

1033
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:23,840
Because you will run into that too where somebody expects something and you're going to have

1034
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840
to shut that down.

1035
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,840
Yeah.

1036
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Don't let anybody push their expectations on you either.

1037
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,720
That's all the time that we have to talk about that.

1038
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,160
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1039
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1050
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1051
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,360
There's not more we could say about that.

1052
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,400
We're going to probably have to break this into another episode.

1053
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:19,160
I'd like to do another episode about club etiquette, event etiquette, and what to bring,

1054
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,560
and what to expect more, a little bit more in depth about all of that and what to take

1055
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,560
with you and what's going to happen when you get there.

1056
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,960
There's so much more that we could say in the whole of this and we can continue on.

1057
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,240
But this was the basics of how to start the conversation, what to expect, getting dipping

1058
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,560
your toes in, and how to navigate all of that.

1059
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,560
So next week we're going to talk about red flags.

1060
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,600
And green flags.

1061
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,920
All the flags.

1062
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,920
But all the flags.

1063
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,920
Beige flags.

1064
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Going off of this.

1065
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Yeah.

1066
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Going off this episode.

1067
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Just something, not necessarily a hard stop, but definitely stuff to look out for.

1068
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,600
Stuff to look out for.

1069
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Stuff we ran into.

1070
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,600
To help protect you guys.

1071
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Some red flags we ran into.

1072
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,240
Noticed a pattern and we've seen along the journey in Heather about along the journey

1073
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:09,320
that kind of keep an eye on important stuff to keep in mind there.

1074
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,720
And yeah, other than that we've got, we're going to Trappies November 15th.

1075
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:15,440
We'll be in Trappies if you're going to be, if you're in Atlanta.

1076
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
We're going there with Pad if you're in Pad and all of that.

1077
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Birthday party for anything but.

1078
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Yes, we've got birthday party coming up.

1079
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,280
And then after that we've got, what have we got next?

1080
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,960
We've got New Year's Eve with Pad as well.

1081
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Yeah, we're doing New Year's Eve with Pad.

1082
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,560
Yes, we'll be there New Year's Eve.

1083
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,440
And we'll have a link for that as well.

1084
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,960
Yeah, so if you're looking for tickets, come to, that's going to be a great time.

1085
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,960
And it's like a Tuesday or Wednesday, something like that.

1086
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,440
So we get to come to it.

1087
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,600
We've never ever left our house for New Year's Eve.

1088
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,920
We always friend it with the kids.

1089
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Our anniversary is the 29th so we've always, if we did, we always did it that night.

1090
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,120
But we've never celebrated New Year's Eve together outside of our home.

1091
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,120
So that's going to be exciting.

1092
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,640
And I'm excited that it's the end of the week.

1093
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,640
It works out.

1094
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,640
It's going to be good.

1095
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,640
It's going to be a good time.

1096
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,640
It's going to be a good family and then there's food, cocktails.

1097
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,640
There's going to be, it's going to be such a good-

1098
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,640
It's a whole big thing.

1099
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,640
It's going to be a good time.

1100
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,760
So if you have any questions about that or any information that you're looking for, it's

1101
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,880
going to be down below and then in all of our socials as well.

1102
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,880
And then after that-

1103
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:10,880
Secrets.

1104
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,880
Sold out.

1105
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920
So there's nothing to say really about that.

1106
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Yeah.

1107
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,920
No.

1108
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,320
Just if you're still looking for a room to get on a wait list, just email.

1109
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,560
Yeah, if you want to get on a wait list, let us know and we can get you on there.

1110
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,560
But yeah, it's sold out.

1111
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,560
It sold out quickly.

1112
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,560
It was a quick one.

1113
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,560
I knew it would be.

1114
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,560
See, there were a couple rooms that-

1115
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,560
I tried to tell you.

1116
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,880
There'll be a couple rooms that might open up, but again, there's already a wait list.

1117
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,880
There's always cancellations.

1118
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,880
There's chances if you're on the wait list, you probably will get a room and especially

1119
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,240
closer to it.

1120
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,360
You'll definitely have a lot of cancellations and things that happen.

1121
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Life happens and stuff.

1122
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Get on that wait list if you want to go so you can go.

1123
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,880
It's going to be a good time as well with Stinger Society.

1124
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,600
And then that's all we've got on the book so far.

1125
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,600
We'll see.

1126
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,880
We're going to do a lot of, I think, closer local to home stuff.

1127
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,880
It's winter time.

1128
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,440
We're going to stay a little closer to home, more Atlanta.

1129
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,280
It's local bonfire hanging out with-

1130
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,280
Local Atlanta stuff.

1131
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Unless something comes up where we're spontaneous and we never know where to expect us.

1132
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,680
We'll just pop up randomly.

1133
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
We do.

1134
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
You never know where you're going to be, but those are the things on our calendars right

1135
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,080
now.

1136
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,800
And then we'll be back with you guys next Wednesday though.

1137
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,280
So we'll see you guys next week.

1138
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,760
We will talk to you very soon.

1139
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,760
We love you guys.

1140
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,760
All right, guys.

1141
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,760
It's not that serious.

1142
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,760
We'll make you weird.

1143
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,760
Bye.

1144
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,760
Bye.

1145
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:54,760
Bye.

