1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Welcome to Why Make Music… a podcast where we dive into the world of creativity and inspiration, 2 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:36,000 hosted by ThinkTimm. We're broadcasting from Planet Earth now, without further ado, let's embark on a journey to think, 3 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Why Make Music… Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to Why Make Misic… 4 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Yo, we're back, it's 2025, this is episode 18, fresh for 2025. I'm your host, ThinkTimm, and I am here. 5 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:51,000 With the podcast, Why Make Music… Why Make Music… Is a podcast that's made for the creative mind, 6 00:01:51,000 --> 00:02:16,000 and for I ThinkTimm T-H-I-N-K-T-I-M-M, welcome, welcome, welcome. 7 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Let me start by telling you that this is what we do. We ask the great question of Why Make Music… 8 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:55,000 It's a statement, a question, and something that should be asked to everyone who creates. 9 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Once again, let me begin by telling you that I am not affiliated with any, any official label, 10 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:40,000 no official sponsor. This is just something I do out of my home as a independent creator. 11 00:03:40,000 --> 00:04:00,000 If you're new to the podcast, I have been doing this for a few months, and I've touched on the creative process. 12 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:15,000 I spoke about social media, trying to market independently without breaking your bank, 13 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:38,000 without spending money, without trying to sell yourself out. My background, I'm a hobbyist musician. 14 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:56,000 I've lived my life already, and now I am full-fledged into my creative stage. 15 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:16,000 By my creative stage, I mean that basically this is all I do. I spend my time with my family. 16 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:30,000 I spend my time making music and other creative things. 17 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:53,000 But this episode is going to dive into something that I came across on YouTube, and I thought it was something worth talking about. 18 00:05:53,000 --> 00:06:09,000 I've come across a situation where a lot of creative producers are talking about, I guess, 19 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:35,000 ageism when it comes to music production. I say that because they're saying that producers over a certain age just stop making music, 20 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:51,000 just stop making beats, stop trying to get their soul beats there, R&B beats. 21 00:06:51,000 --> 00:07:18,000 That's ridiculous. How can you tell someone to not be creative? Now I do understand completely that everyone should move forward 22 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:40,000 and keep all genres of music growing. But with that being said, I'm kind of thinking that maybe 23 00:07:40,000 --> 00:08:09,000 it might just be a hip-hop thing. I say that because only in hip-hop are we concerned. 24 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:30,000 We're concerned with this age thing. Like, the younger is the better. I don't understand. I don't get it. 25 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:54,000 So, there's no shame in my game, so I'm going to keep it real. Keep it real. I'm older. I'm an older guy. 50. 26 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Am I concerned about what's going on in music around me? I am. 27 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I listen to what's going on, and I have a great deal of respect for all the young producers that are out there making music 28 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:42,000 and making beats and changing the dynamic of how music is put out in the style that they're using. 29 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And it's growing the music. It's growing the sound, and it's trickling into other facets of music. 30 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Now, I don't know if videos that I saw where people were saying that it's a young man's game is relevant. 31 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:37,000 I say that only because it's common sense that with age comes experience. 32 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:50,000 With age comes the growing knowledge of life. 33 00:10:50,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Now, don't get me wrong by any means, because these younger producers are hot. They are doing things that are amazing. 34 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:27,000 They are selling and musing music, and it's great. But I don't think they're the ones. 35 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:45,000 I do believe that we live in a society where we tend to eat our own. 36 00:11:45,000 --> 00:12:14,000 And what do I mean by that is we as creatives always tend to somehow want to pull each other down. 37 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:30,000 This is not Highlander. There can be more than one. There has to be more than one. 38 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:58,000 I say that because if only one person, one producer, one style is allowed to take the top spot, 39 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:09,000 everything will sound the same. 40 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Just for example, we long for our great producers like Dr. Dre, Dj Khalid , Swiss Beatz, Timbaland, Rockwilder, 41 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:49,000 hip hop producers Hank Shockley, Teddy Riley, Kwame. 42 00:13:49,000 --> 00:14:05,000 We have producers that are of phenomenal skill that age. 43 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Why do we want to even have a conversation about isolating the great minds that have come before 44 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:42,000 in lieu of the new talent that is coming in? Whatever happened to the master apprentice relationship? 45 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Whatever happened to... Oh, I can learn from the past. 46 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Now, don't get me wrong. Can you imagine right now in 2025 cutting reel to reel tape and editing that way? 47 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:40,000 No, we don't have to. We have technology. We are no longer recording by means of analog recording. 48 00:15:40,000 --> 00:16:02,000 The average person can have basically a home studio that's equivalent to having what was one of the better 49 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:21,000 or if not the best or greatest studio in the 80s or 90s or the 2000s on their laptop. 50 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:39,000 It's amazing. So why can't all producers just support each other? 51 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:58,000 That's a good question. The reason why I ask that, the reason why I say that is... 52 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Why Make Music…That's it. 53 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Earlier in our earlier episode, I went over all of the numbers, the stats of Spotify, Apple Music, all the streaming platforms. 54 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:55,000 And it was a ridiculous, unbelievable amount of music that is released daily. 55 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Over a hundred thousand songs are released via the internet, via independent distribution into the world. 56 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:35,000 I'm sure some of these producers are teenagers. Some of these producers are senior citizens. 57 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:49,000 How can you put a limit, a time limit on creativity? 58 00:18:49,000 --> 00:19:16,000 I'm not just saying this because of my age. I'm saying this because my love for making music 59 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:34,000 is greater now that I'm older than it was when I was a teen, when I was in my 20s, 60 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:51,000 when I was out playing with bands, when I was trying to get music heard before the internet, 61 00:19:51,000 --> 00:20:10,000 before you could post. I remember being in a studio with a gentleman from Philadelphia 62 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:25,000 working on an Apple Square box computer and having a conversation. 63 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:44,000 This was in 1992 about what we're doing today about putting music on the internet, 64 00:20:44,000 --> 00:21:03,000 about making a song, releasing it and remixing it and re-releasing it the same day to the masses. 65 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:16,000 It seemed amazing at that time because the internet was a baby. 66 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Now we're living full-fledged in it and I can make better music at home than paying. 67 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:51,000 You folks have no idea going to a recording studio and paying by the hour 68 00:21:51,000 --> 00:22:06,000 and trying to create as your bill ran up. 69 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Not unless you had some type of deal, some type of manager that was covering the bill. 70 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Did you feel comfortable where the money wasn't coming out of your pockets? 71 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Now think for under $2,000. Let's just say $2,000. 72 00:22:51,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Laptop, PC, Apple desktop. You have the new Apple Mini 4 with the new processor based model 599. 73 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Logic Pro, Ableton, FL Studios, Reason. Starting price under $200. 74 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:52,000 A MIDI controller, a decent mic and you're off to the races. 75 00:23:52,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Why Make Music… dot dot dot? Tell me, why would you not make music? 76 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Why would you not be creative? Especially if it's something you always did. 77 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Don't get me wrong. 78 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:58,000 I still get down on the bass, the guitar, keyboards, but it's so much easier with the technology we have. 79 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Why would I stop just because I'm older? Do you hear the music in the background? 80 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:41,000 That's my music. Things that I've done in my home without conversation with other people, without having to debate or to discuss or pay money out the behind to record it. 81 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:49,000 It's me. I will do this forever. 82 00:25:49,000 --> 00:26:16,000 And I think it's so crazy to have a conversation asking why would you make music as you've gotten older? 83 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Crazy, crazy. I don't get it. Why would you stop making music only because you're older? 84 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Now, playing devil's advocate. Now, is it wrong to stifle a young person's creativity? 85 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Because as a older producer, you don't necessarily do or create the sounds that are going on currently. 86 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:44,000 But that's music. Music is just that. It comes in all genres. It comes in all styles. 87 00:27:44,000 --> 00:28:11,000 You, anyone can create a song, a piece of music that sounds like the future, the past, the present. 88 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:34,000 It should be a situation where the conversations even had that an older producer should stop. 89 00:28:34,000 --> 00:29:03,000 I don't think you, meaning the average listener, if you don't understand how everything works, everyone learns from somebody. 90 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Everybody learns from someone else. 91 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Now, the question is, do you give that person the credit? Does that person come from the background into the forefront and take their bow? 92 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Example, nothing to take away from. 93 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Who do you people consider to be, I guess, the reigning genius of all creative music that will drop the world if they release something? 94 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Kanye West, he's very innovative. He's very creative. 95 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:55,000 But working with Kanye West is Mike Dean. Now, do you know who Mike Dean is? Mike Dean is one of the architects for Southern hip hop music from Houston. 96 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:11,000 I do believe he worked with a lot of people back in the day, and now he is still a great producer. 97 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:30,000 But do you hear his name thrown around? I'm sure Mike Dean could leave the house, go to the market, live his life, do his things. 98 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:44,000 But he's making money, and he's older, and he's living his life, and he's teaching younger producers. 99 00:31:44,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Timbaland had people underneath. Swizz Beatzpeople underneath that learn. Dr. Dre, Hank Shockley just like R&B producers. 100 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Quincy Jones passed knowledge down. 101 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:35,000 When the great Quincy Jones passed away, no one said, oh, that dude was past his prime. 102 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:54,000 No, you have great rock groups, great pop producers. What's that guy? Bob Baccarat? Carole King. 103 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Does that name even have a name? Carole King. Diane Warren. Writers that are still writing. 104 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:24,000 A couple years ago, we had the Grammy salute of the older artists, and it's great that they're still around. 105 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:40,000 The other day I was watching on social media, Sheila E was behind the drums at her church. 106 00:33:40,000 --> 00:34:04,000 You understand, Sheila is 60 plus years old. You can't discriminate against creative people because of their age. 107 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Now, was this something that was said just to possibly get a rise out of the listening audience? 108 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Possibly. But my hands up. I don't know. I really don't know. Because I didn't take offense to it. 109 00:34:48,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Because I do what I do and I'm not going to stop the knowledge I have. I pass it on to my children. 110 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:34,000 I share it with anyone I talk to. There is absolutely no shame in creating. 111 00:35:34,000 --> 00:36:02,000 Just recently, I have put out tons of music. If you look below, there are one, two, three, four, five 112 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:19,000 projects that I've put out in the last six months. Each project has 26 tracks. That's 130 tracks. 113 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:39,000 I'm not going to stop making music because it's something I love to do. No other reason. It's like therapy. 114 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:57,000 It gives me a good feeling to be creative. I don't know what genre my music fits into. 115 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:12,000 I'm not all that concerned. If it wasn't for filling out paperwork, I could care less. 116 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:33,000 The only reason is because when you go to put your material on streaming platforms, they ask you for a genre. 117 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:51,000 I think it's music. I think all music is nothing but music. You listen to it. You love it. You hear it. 118 00:37:51,000 --> 00:38:08,000 I tell you over and over again, ask someone Why Make Music…. 119 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:31,000 It's the one question that will spawn the greatest conversation you will ever have, 120 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:47,000 especially if you care about music yourself. Seriously. 121 00:38:47,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Think about it. 18 episodes ago, I decided to do a podcast about Why Make Music…. 122 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:37,000 And here I am, months later, still finding interesting, extremely interesting reasons 123 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:54,000 to discuss Why Make Music…. It's crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. 124 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Because I can't get enough of doing it. You understand? I'm not getting any younger. 125 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:36,000 I can't turn time back. I hear new songs every day, every single day. 126 00:40:36,000 --> 00:41:03,000 And all it does is inspire me to do more. It inspires me to create, to share, to make music. 127 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Think about it, people. Why do you do what you do? 128 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Do you do it for yourself? Do you do it for money? Do you do it for fame? 129 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:44,000 I ain't gonna lie to you. If financially this will make my life a little better, my life's not bad. 130 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:59,000 But I'm not gonna turn away, because I know the commodity of music. 131 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:18,000 Because not everyone can do it, but those who can do, and we will, and we will do it forever. 132 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:46,000 We will never stop being creative. So once again, I wanna thank you for tuning in to why make music. 133 00:42:46,000 --> 00:43:00,000 This is ThinkTimm T-H-I-N-K T-I-M-M. 134 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:23,000 And remember, be creative, be wild, and create. Don't ever stop. Don't ever stop. 135 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Pick up all of my music, streaming on all social media. You know it's there. Demotional. 136 00:43:45,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Beatanical, SuperLaBass, LoFication, and PeriHopic, you got it. More to come. Peace be wild.