1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,640 Hello, hello everyone. I hope you're doing well. Welcome to another live stream. I am 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:19,000 coming at you hopefully from a bunch of places including YouTube. I do need to tweet. I need 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:32,160 to tweet out that I'm live because Twitter changed their policy and now you have to have 4 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:44,000 the big plan. You need to have the big plan in order to live stream there. So I'm going 5 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:51,720 to grab the link. I'm going to post it on X and hopefully grab some folks over there. 6 00:00:51,720 --> 00:01:02,080 I'm live right now. Okay. So today we are going to plan a solo episode or two because 7 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:13,760 I realized that my next solo episode is very retrospective. I'm not going to do this story 8 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:24,640 like the three act story. But I did realize that maybe this one is not the best representative 9 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:37,760 of my normal solo episodes. And part of the reason I am doing these solo episodes is where 10 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:43,760 are we? Are we here? Yes, this is where we are. Part of the reason I am doing these solo 11 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:50,520 episodes is because I have been thinking a lot about it. I wrote on Monday in my newsletter 12 00:01:50,520 --> 00:02:01,600 about how, let me adjust my camera a little bit here because I feel like I'm very low 13 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:13,080 in the frame. Anyway, I've been thinking a lot about this. There we go. That's better. 14 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Because I had a coaching call with my friend Alex where we talked a little bit about this 15 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:24,640 and then I was talking to another creator friend of mine and she was kind of surprised 16 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:32,800 to hear or to realize that her audience preferred her solo episodes. So this went out today 17 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:39,920 in my newsletter. If you may have read about it in the newsletter. But I talk a lot about 18 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:44,040 the benefits of having a solo show. This was something I called a mini podcast for a long 19 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:51,720 time. It seems like mini podcast is, that was the term I used because that was the term 20 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:57,160 that it seemed other people were using. But I think I'm going to start just saying solo 21 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,360 podcasting and I need to update this. This was originally published two years ago. So 22 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:08,440 it's definitely time for an update. But I thought today would be like a work with me 23 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:17,280 session and I would kind of show you my process for doing a solo episode. Now, if you are 24 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:25,360 watching, let me know in the chat where you're coming from. And as a note with the chat, 25 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:32,640 I should see comments from Twitch, YouTube and Facebook. So if you're watching in any 26 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:39,360 of those places, I should see your comments here. If you're watching on one of the other 27 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:49,520 places I'm streaming, which I think is, oh boy, I don't know if I'm doing Instagram 28 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,680 today, but I'm definitely doing LinkedIn. And I know that LinkedIn shared to my story. 29 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:02,800 I didn't want to do that. Share to my feed is what I actually want. I know LinkedIn comments 30 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,960 don't come through or like, like barely even show up, which is very frustrating. So I'll 31 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,920 be checking LinkedIn for comments, but honestly, it might be better for you to just kind of 32 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:20,160 come on over here to YouTube. Oh, Ashley, I do see Ashley's comment. This is a great 33 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:27,440 test actually. We'll see if I see Ashley's comment already, like it's going poorly. 34 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Okay, so I see Ashley's comment here in my notifications. And oh, I see it. Oh, I see 35 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,080 it here as well. Okay, cool. So a couple of comments here actually, I know Susan made 36 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,840 this comment earlier, Susan Bowles. I just did my first solo and the workflow and it 37 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:54,400 was so much easier. Ashley says, hello, hello, Ashley. Thanks so much for being here. One 38 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:02,240 of my compatriots at rss.com. And I did see another comment. I forget now who I meant 39 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,800 to respond to this, but someone else said, you know, that their solo episodes take them 40 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:13,520 much longer because they are trying to get it perfect and they're doing a lot of retakes. 41 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:19,440 And I will say like, if you if you are not used to talking in front of a camera a lot, 42 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:27,840 that's that's it's a tough context switch. Obviously, I go live weekly and I do a lot 43 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:35,040 of stuff like this. I go on other podcasts where I'm comfortable kind of talking to a 44 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:47,200 screen or, you know, I'm not overtly worried about it being too. All right, Ashley joining 45 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:56,080 from from YouTube now as well. So thanks. Thanks, Ashley, popping in from LinkedIn. 46 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:02,320 I have LinkedIn up presently, but I don't know. It won't be up for long because I'm going 47 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,200 to actually get started here in a minute. But anyway, so, you know, I would say like 48 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,480 if you're doing a solo episode and you're not entirely comfortable, frame it like a conversation, 49 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,440 right? Like and imagine that you are talking to a listener, right? People say with like 50 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,200 your ideal customer avatar, picture one person to talk to. I would do the same thing. Think 51 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,800 of your perfect listener and imagine that you are talking directly to them. You ask them a question 52 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,000 and now you're answering that question as thoroughly as possible. And I think that you will 53 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,880 you'll have a better experience. And the other thing I would say is like you're not giving a 54 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:48,640 keynote speech. You're not giving like the state of the union address. You are imparting wisdom 55 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:56,400 on people. And so if you know, if you're creating good content, it doesn't have to be a perfect 56 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:06,400 take, right? I would I would equate it to seeing like a movie versus seeing a theater show, right? 57 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,440 A live show, right? You're a little bit more forgiving. It's not going to be as polished as 58 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:20,800 a movie because there are there's like a team of people behind making a movie. And so, you know, 59 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,400 I think start there and you'll be more comfortable. Okay, the last thing I'll say is if you are not 60 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,040 on my mailing list, my mailing list gets notified of these live streams and usually 61 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,040 they get like the context of that inspired whatever I'm talking about. So you can head over to 62 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:48,080 podcast workflows.com slash join to join my mailing list today. Okay, so let's actually get into 63 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:57,200 the planning side of things. So I'll bigify this, I'll get rid of all of this stuff. 64 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:07,440 For those who are well, no, I need to move the comment over to my, my other monitor. So I'll be 65 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:17,440 able to see them. Okay. So let's share this screen here. So this is my planner. You can see I have 66 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:25,280 some episodes lined up and the next solo episode is called summer retrospective. I'm probably going 67 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:31,920 to call this something different. That's just like the note for me. It's really in the beginning of 68 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,160 the summer I published an episode called why we're not doing summer camp and how it's affecting my 69 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:47,440 business. And so this episode following up is going to be how it went, right? Like how did, 70 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,800 how did my summer go? And I know, well, this is like, I don't really like dark mode. So I'm going to 71 00:08:52,800 --> 00:09:06,080 move it to light mode. Okay, so this is my new template of sorts. I accidentally left the 72 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:15,760 timestamp in the template. And so I shared this in a short form video yesterday, but I've made a 73 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:25,920 change to the way I'm doing my guest episodes, where I really want to tighten this up. Right. 74 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:32,240 I've noticed in reviewing my analytics that I was seeing a lot of drop off in the first three 75 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:39,600 minutes and it was I was taking a long time to get to the point. And so I decided a few things, 76 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,840 right? I wouldn't read. Usually I do like a multi paragraph summary with with the top takeaways, 77 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,600 because I want this to be useful for people who are just stumbling across the episode, 78 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,720 especially on my website. But reading that verbatim takes two to three minutes. And then I 79 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,760 have like a one minute long cold open. And then I do the actual intro. And so I really want to 80 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:08,160 tighten this up from seven minutes to like two minutes total. And so I'm going to highlight the 81 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:14,640 main takeaway for people instead of the top three takeaways. The cold open is going to be like maybe 82 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:26,960 20 seconds. And the shorter intro, where I'm shooting for 110 words 110 words is about a 83 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,000 minute. It takes me about a minute to read 110 words. So that's that's what I'm going for there. 84 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:40,320 So main takeaway built into the shorter intro, cold open, and then getting right into the first 85 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:49,440 question. And then I have a 12 second pre recorded intro for the audio only version. So that is one 86 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:59,280 minute and 30 seconds with the main takeaway and the opening jingle. So like, keep I want to keep it 87 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:07,760 to a tight two minutes, get people there immediately. I haven't I haven't done pre roll ads in a while. 88 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,280 The last one was just to let people know I was going on summer break. And then the one before 89 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,800 that was when I rebranded. So but I like to have these up here for my interviews. I don't know if 90 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,920 I'll really have it. You know, I think like short intro script would be like the story I want to 91 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:33,920 tell here. And then of course, if you've seen me talk this Oh, whoops, I there we go. Okay. I don't 92 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,360 even though I use notion like regularly, I don't really know how it works. I think I probably 93 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,240 clicked like add template too many times and notion got confused or I got confused about what 94 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:53,040 notion thought it knew. Anyway, so if you've been following along with me for a long time, you'll 95 00:11:53,040 --> 00:12:00,720 know that I like to do my podcast episodes in a three act story where we have the setup, we have 96 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:08,960 the conflict, and we have the resolution. So because this is a solo episode, I can actually 97 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:15,120 think about the main takeaway here. The my main goal with the we're not doing summer camp 98 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:25,440 summer camp is to let other parents know here are my plans. Here's how I intend on running my business 99 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:36,560 when I don't have as much childcare as I have during the school year. And so whoops, and so I 100 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:46,800 can't turn away from the mic like that. And so the main takeaway I think for this episode is me 101 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:52,560 answering the question how did it go? Or the maybe the main goal, right? What's the goal of this 102 00:12:52,560 --> 00:13:07,440 episode? So maybe that's a good note to make. Answer the open thread from episode 420 on how 103 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:22,160 my summer without summer camp went. So act one is going to be the setup, which is probably 104 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:35,200 probably just a quick rehash of episode 420, right? So recap of 420, decided not to do summer camp, 105 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:45,520 plans for childcare, vacation and modified schedule, 106 00:13:45,520 --> 00:14:06,960 heavy reliance on nap times, and then kind of rearranging calendar, well cal.com, my schedule. 107 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:17,440 The conflict here, if I'm thinking about it, right, it's probably good for me to write down 108 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:26,960 some notes down here. Or up here actually, this is usually where the notes go. Pre show notes. 109 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,160 So I guess the main question I should answer is like how do I feel it actually went? 110 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,800 It went okay. 111 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:54,000 I don't feel, well I landed a couple of coaching clients, which is good. 112 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:09,760 The days I wasn't motivated felt amplified. So like, you know, I mean there are some days 113 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:21,520 throughout the week where you're just like not feeling it. And because I was working three or 114 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:33,280 four days on certain weeks, if I wasn't feeling particularly motivated in one of those days, 115 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:40,640 the pressure was on, right? Actually, I'm feeling a little bit of that today, or I was until I found 116 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,760 out my father-in-law is actually watching my kids tomorrow, because I'm going to podcast 117 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:52,320 movement next week, which if you're going to be there, say hello. Let me know. I'll be around. But 118 00:15:52,320 --> 00:16:02,000 I was really feeling that this morning, because I was like, man, I really need to be productive, 119 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:13,280 because if I'm not, like I'm not working tomorrow, and then I'm not working for most of next week, 120 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,520 and I was like really feeling that pressure. So that's one of the things that like probably 121 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:31,520 needs to change. I don't think I really scaled back the stuff I was trying to do. I don't, yeah, 122 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:44,480 this is good. I don't feel like I scaled, scald, back the amount of stuff I was trying to do. In 123 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:50,960 fact, over this, like I agreed to become the president of my kids' home and school, like my 124 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:57,680 kids' school's home and school association, kind of blind. Like I'd never been to a home and school 125 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:05,600 meeting. I wasn't serving on the board before that. They needed somebody, and they asked if I wanted 126 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:13,360 to do it. And I do want to be involved in my kid's school. So I actually might have taken on 127 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:21,200 more than I should have, right? I also took on two LinkedIn learning courses. It was like, 128 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:29,440 I said like I'm trying to do less of those because most of them are programming focused, 129 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,720 and I'm fully focused in my client work on podcasting stuff. But it was like, 130 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,720 the offer felt very stupid to say no to as far as like level of effort and compensation. 131 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:53,040 And so I am doing those. So like I took that on, I took on the HSA might have taken on more. 132 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,360 And on top of that, something I noticed that I started getting a lot of coaching requests on 133 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:10,480 my form. I sold a couple of audits. I sold a few coaching hours here and there. And so 134 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,480 I feel like things are starting to pick up. And I'm glad it's starting to now. Like I don't know 135 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,480 how I would have handled it if like things started to pick up in early May. And then I'm like, oh, 136 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:30,880 man, I'm going away for the summer. Now, one nice thing is that for my son's birthday, 137 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:40,400 I was able to kind of knock off on ex unexpectedly and go to the zoo with them. The 138 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:49,120 the larger context is that my wife tried to set up like weekly play dates with her co workers 139 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:54,080 every week for, you know, for the people who weren't doing summer camp or something else, 140 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:00,160 who had small kids. And one was the zoo that day happened to follow my son's birthday, but it wasn't 141 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,960 for his birthday. And then everybody like it was like, right, it was like kind of a crummy day. 142 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:12,640 And so everybody bailed. And so it was it was going to just be her and the kids. And then that 143 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:20,640 felt to me like, well, now it kind of feels like it's for his birthday. And we were also getting 144 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,040 new furniture that afternoon. So like I knew I wouldn't be working that afternoon. And I was 145 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:31,360 like, you know what, this is why I'm doing what I'm doing. And I knocked off of work for that day. 146 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:40,640 And there were no repercussions. So I think this is probably representative good of what went on. 147 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,360 It went okay. I landed a couple coaching clients. The days I wasn't motivated felt amplified. 148 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:53,440 I don't feel like I scaled back. I might have taken on too much. But I was able to take extra days 149 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:03,280 when needed, disconnected for family vacation. That was another thing. And I didn't work that, 150 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:11,360 I didn't work too many weekends. Didn't work any, I didn't work any weekends. I didn't work 151 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:21,280 didn't work any full weekend days, right? I might have capped like, grabbed a couple of hours here 152 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:27,040 and there when the kids were napping or my wife was out with my oldest or something like that. So 153 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:34,800 okay. All right, so I think this is good. This is kind of round one on how I plan a solo episode. 154 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,640 I'll write down some notes. Sometimes I'll write it in a notebook or in Apple Notes. 155 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:48,800 Apple Notes because it has like the handwriting thing. So I'll like do hand in notes in Apple 156 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Notes. Just kind of stuff I'm thinking. That's like kind of step one here. And this replaces the, 157 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:03,200 I should say this replaces the research phase. If you are having a guest or doing like a deeply 158 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,880 researched topic, right? There are sometimes where I'm, I'm like actually I'm thinking about doing 159 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:17,920 an episode about micro segments because in my product ladder episode, 160 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,880 in my product ladder episode, I talk a lot about micro segments, but I don't, 161 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:37,920 I don't really define what they are. And I don't really define mine because I haven't done that 162 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:44,320 exercise in a while. And so when I, when I do that, it'll be, there will be more research. I'll be 163 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,920 gathering kind of information from this retreat I went on a couple of years ago where we really 164 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:56,000 talked about micro segments and product ladders. And so, and I'll talk about kind of the importance 165 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:02,640 of that for solo per new artist, right? So like of my, I guess it's, I should say like of my solo 166 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,920 episodes, there are kind of two types of solo episodes. You know, one is like the teaching 167 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,440 kind of solo episode. And one is like the behind the scenes how I'm running my business 168 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,360 kind of solo episodes. And so if I look at why and how I'm fixing my newsletter, 169 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:26,480 that's definitely like a, let's sort this by live date. Whoops, descending. 170 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:36,800 So first one, reclaiming control, navigating the hosted versus self hosted dilemma. I was inspired 171 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,000 to do this because a couple of weeks ago, my friend Matt Medeiros 172 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:51,760 talked about how he like, he didn't get like deep platforms, but he was using a platform that 173 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,680 was like holding his money hostage and it got fixed and everything. But it really got me thinking 174 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:04,960 about like, you should have your own platform for your website and like where you're going to make 175 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,560 money. And then like why and how I'm fixing my newsletter, this is like a little bit of 176 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:16,000 behind the scenes on why I need to fix it. And then like the lessons I've learned to get me there. 177 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:25,600 So those are the two, you know, kinds of episodes I do tools check in, like these are always really 178 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:32,160 popular. Some of the tools that I'm using and why gives people a good peek behind the curtain. 179 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:39,840 And so this episode is definitely more of a behind the scenes where we behind the scenes, 180 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,440 how's my business going, which does make like the usually that's like the pro show topic. 181 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,480 So I got to come up with something different for the pro show, but when I do these, it's, 182 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:57,280 it's I really try to gather my thoughts and then turn that into a story, right? So act one, maybe 183 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,560 I'll call this how did like, I'll just answer the question right up front. How did I do? 184 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:09,440 And so because I did talk about all of this in episode 420, so like I'm definitely going to 185 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:19,760 point people in that direction. So I'll even include that here. I do the link so that my VA 186 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:29,200 knows to include those links in the show notes. There we go. 187 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,960 So how did I do? So let's maybe I'll give myself a grade here. I'm going to say a B. 188 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:49,280 I think I did pretty good, right? Because if we if we weigh the pros and cons, 189 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:55,600 I was able to disconnect. I didn't even bring my laptop, like I was totally disconnected. 190 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,280 I would I would open my email app. I think I responded to one email from a friend. 191 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,840 So it's like that's really good for me. And I know it's really good for a lot of people too, 192 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,560 because I said like I didn't bring my laptop and people are like, Oh, you forgot your laptop. 193 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:20,000 And like, no, no, I purposely did not bring it. So I think that was a big win. The zoo trip was 194 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:28,080 a big win because I didn't feel so overwhelmed that I couldn't take time away to spend with my 195 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:36,720 family on my boy's birthday, right? But you know, again, those days, I wasn't feeling motivated, 196 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:43,680 felt amplified. I don't really feel like I scaled back much of anything. And like I get that travel 197 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,440 anxiety, right? Like the whole week before our vacation, I was like, am I going to be able to 198 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,360 do this? And again, I'm kind of feeling that right now before podcast movement. And like, 199 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:56,720 yeah, I'll bring my laptop for podcast movement. That's not family time. And I will have downtime 200 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:03,920 and I will probably do some work. But you know, I'm not going to be at my desk. I'm not going to 201 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,080 be in front of my recording set up. And so like, and I won't be as responsive, right? I'm doing a 202 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,640 bunch of these brain dates with with other podcasters, like I'm hosting a couple on automation. And so 203 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:26,640 you know, it's it's it's that like that pit or like that pressure in my chest is something I want 204 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:35,520 to alleviate next year, right? Ashley saying I barely get any work done when I am at conferences. 205 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:43,360 I mean, same, right? I don't and and also that's good, right? Like I don't understand 206 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,640 the the people who go to conferences and they're just on their laptop the whole time. Like 207 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,480 I and I see this at at technology conferences, especially, but it's like, my man, you 208 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:06,080 you paid hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands of dollars, or maybe your company did, right? Maybe 209 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:14,000 that's part of it. To be here and and you're just working like you could do that for free at home. 210 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,480 So like I definitely I'm I'm not going to work. And I'm a social I actually I think you and I are 211 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,480 both pretty extroverted people. Maybe I've misjudged that, but it seems like you are and I 212 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:33,440 definitely am. And I love networking and talking to people. So I'm definitely not going to 213 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,960 sacrifice conference time, right? But if I'm feeling like, you know, I'm staying at the conference 214 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,880 hotel, this is going to be a short sidebar. But I'm saying at the conference hotel. 215 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,440 This is something for a while I was doing like Airbnb's because they were a lot cheaper. 216 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:59,920 And then I kind of realized what Ariel realized in the little mermaid that I want to be where the 217 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:05,840 people are. And so like the cost difference was worth it for me to be closer to the action, 218 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:12,400 right? And so as a result, if I'm feeling like I'm not really totally extroverted until my social 219 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,000 battery runs out, yeah, that's that's exactly what this is the exact point I'm approaching to, 220 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,320 right? It's like, I mean, for me, I feel like it's just like, I get physically tired. 221 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,920 I like I don't know for me if it's like, I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure. 222 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:37,760 I get physically tired. I like I don't know for me if it's like my social battery as much as my 223 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,640 physical battery. And so like, I just want to like go sit in the quiet for a minute. 224 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,520 You know, maybe then I'll kind of veg and sit in air conditioning, right? Because I also run 225 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,400 hot and like these conferences also generally run hot. So it's just like thousands of people 226 00:28:54,400 --> 00:29:01,760 in one place. It's hard not to. And so like, yeah, maybe I'll find some time to do some stuff. But 227 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,320 in general, I'm not going to do that. So that was a quick digression. I guess the 228 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:16,560 the two endorsements I would make there like, even though it's more expensive, the conference 229 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:28,800 hotel is worth it. And if you're going to go to conferences, don't spend the whole time working 230 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:37,040 because you can work for free at home. Okay, cool. How to do conferences. Also, 231 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,360 I guess I should say there's no live stream next week, because I'll be a podcast moment. 232 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Okay, so how did I do link to just to recap, I would give myself a B for all of the reasons I 233 00:29:53,600 --> 00:30:01,920 say it's all right, like C pre show notes here. Well, I don't want to, I don't want to do that. 234 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:10,400 I'll just kind of copy some of the things that I want to say here. So the days I was feeling 235 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,760 motivated. Okay, so let's make an outline here. The bad. 236 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,720 These two things. 237 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:35,040 I'm like, I can't. I can't do the good, the good, the bad and the ugly now. And that's like, 238 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,840 if you're if you're wondering what it's like to peek inside of my brain. 239 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,560 I'm like, well, I can do the good, the bad and the ugly, but now I have to do the good first. 240 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,960 I see another comment from Ashley here. So let's bring that up. 241 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Oh, man, why can't I see that now? Okay, don't spend the whole time in classes, 242 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,040 either the magic happens and networking the expo halls and the restaurants. Heck, yeah. 243 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Yeah, I spend most of my time in the the hallway track is what we would call it in the WordPress 244 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:21,200 space. I like like most of the time, right? I, I'm going to go to a few talks to support friends, 245 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,400 right, and like be there as a friendly face in the crowd. But other than that, like, 246 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:36,480 I learned way more from talking to people than I do from sitting in in the classes or the talks, 247 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,120 right? This is why like those brain dates are going to be amazing, right? It's like real, 248 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,320 real good one on one time, or like one on, you know, I think like five, it's a max of five people 249 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:54,000 in a group. So I'm really excited about that. And then yeah, like the community events and the parties, 250 00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:01,360 right, just like going to dinner with random people. Super valuable, right? Super valuable. 251 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:12,560 So I'm cosign on that, right? The, you know, when I was dating, when I was a dating man, 252 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,040 people would always say that a movie was a terrible date, a terrible first date, 253 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,120 because you don't get to know the person. You go to a movie theater, you talk for a little 254 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,440 bit before the movie. And then if you're not like a rude idiot, you don't talk for the entirety of 255 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,720 the movie. And then you go, what'd you think? And then you go home. I feel like conferences are 256 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,760 the same way, right? Like, I go to talks if there's something that you really, really want to learn, 257 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,800 or there's a speaker you really want to see, sure. But I would say, I mean, especially at 258 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:55,040 podcast, like there are so many talks at podcast movement. There are so many talks you can't 259 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:04,880 possibly go to all of them. But what you can do is make time to see people and have conversations. 260 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,600 So yeah, that's my two cents. If you really want to see all the talks, like by the digital pass, 261 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,960 I never buy the digital pass or the virtual pass, because I'm not going to watch them. Like, 262 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:24,080 I'm just like, being honest, I'm not going to watch any of those talks. So yeah, that's my 263 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:30,080 two cents to add on to Ashley's two cents. So thanks, Ashley. Thanks for being here for contributing. 264 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,920 I don't let me check the other places really quick before moving on. I'm sorry if I'm streaming 265 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:44,080 somewhere and I have forgotten. And you're like making comments and screaming into the void. I 266 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,320 don't think you are. But in case you are, I'm really sorry. YouTube is definitely the best place for 267 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:58,720 for us to engage because that's where I happen to hang out the most. Okay, so how are we doing 268 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:06,400 on time here? All right, great. All right, so the bad might have taken on more too much. Let's do the good. 269 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:17,200 And the good would be I'll talk about these three things, right? Especially the didn't work any full 270 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:24,720 weekend days. Because it would have been really easy for me to sorry, you can't see what I'm doing. 271 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,600 It would have been really easy for me to cop out here, right? And say like, oh, well, I'll just 272 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,040 I'll just work on a Saturday. But like, the whole reason we're not doing summer camp aside to save 273 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,400 money, which by the way, it's a good thing we did because our fridge and our dishwasher died this 274 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:48,480 summer, was to spend time with my family, like to be with my kids. During this magical age, 275 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:58,000 my son is going to full day pre count. Oh my God. You know, my son's going to full five day school 276 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:06,560 in a couple of weeks. And so gosh, that hit me out of nowhere. So two of my kids will be out of 277 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,840 the house most of the week now. And like that bums me out, right? It doesn't bum me out when I'm 278 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:18,080 with them and they're being annoying. But writ large, it bums me out, right? Because now we're 279 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,240 entering a point where like other people are going to have them more than me, right, for their waking 280 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:31,840 hours. And so the summer is really a time for me to for me and my wife to get some of that time 281 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:38,720 back, right? Not outsource the job. So you know, if I worked on weekend days, it would have 282 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,200 I don't know, it would have defeated the purpose, I think. So you all should know if you're watching 283 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,240 this and you're like, what what just happened? I'm Italian are very we're very sensitive. We're 284 00:35:52,240 --> 00:36:03,280 very emotional people. So okay, so that's I got to reorder this. The good, the bad, and the ugly, 285 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:11,520 the ugly inside of my business, there was not a lot of ugly. There were maybe some missteps in 286 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:20,080 communication, just because I had a lot of things going on in communication. And like rushing through 287 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,520 a few things that I shouldn't have rushed through. But a lot of the ugly came through. 288 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,520 I'm thinking about how I want to word this, right? There were times where my wife and I didn't see a 289 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,760 lot of each other, just because like she would work and then come home late, or you know, I would 290 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:49,200 work late to finish up some things. And so like we weren't checking in with each other as much as 291 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,600 we could have. And that led to some stress. I mean, luckily, we are both really good at recognizing 292 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,800 that. And we're both really good at giving each other space when we need to. We're like 293 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:08,080 confronting things when they need to be confronted. And so, but you know, I mean, nobody likes 294 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,520 strength, like no one likes not seeing their spouse, I would imagine. Maybe I'm just speaking 295 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:25,600 for happily married people. But you know, so it was like there were some some personal things that 296 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,800 made you know, my old man like fell at the beginning of the summer and he's fine now. But 297 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,440 there were some personal things that kind of tacked on to an already stressful 298 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,480 time, right? And so like nothing insurmountable. It's mostly because I want to do the good, 299 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,080 the bad and the ugly reference. But if we're talking about like the worst parts of it, 300 00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:02,560 maybe the worst and unforeseen things. The stress on my personal life was something I didn't 301 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:09,760 foresee because I just thought well, life is my personal life. And it's just that I'll be working 302 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,200 less. But it's really there were a lot of plates in the area at a lot of times, right? And so I 303 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:23,440 think this is good. I think this is a good outline. Gosh, if this is a rubric, I probably wouldn't get 304 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:34,320 a B. But the good is weighted more heavily than the bad and the ugly. So, you know, I'm going to give 305 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:46,720 myself a B. Okay, so Act two is usually where I introduce a conflict. And so if Act one is the 306 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:55,440 setup and that's how did I do the conflict is asking the question, was it worth it? Right? 307 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Right? Was the amount of money I saved worth the extra stress that I felt? And conversely, 308 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:13,040 was it worth the extra time I had with my kids? Because I think something that's tough is 309 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,560 kids are dysregulated pretty easily over the summer. Because they don't necessarily like we, 310 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:29,200 I mean, we, we definitely didn't do a good job of having a set schedule every day. 311 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:37,040 My wife was way better at it than I was. I'm like a little scared to go out with all three of my 312 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:43,360 kids at the same time. Not that I didn't do it. It's just like, I'm very choosy about how I do 313 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:50,560 that. And maybe it's like, I think this is like a therapy session with me really quick. But I 314 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:58,160 I something I did not see coming is that I am more of a helicopter parent than I thought I would be. 315 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,400 Like strong like death is all around us vibes. And so I do feel like a little bit more stress 316 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:12,880 than I thought I would in certain situations like but that said, like, you know, our, our, 317 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,440 our parish had a carnival that my kids loved. And so like, one day my wife was working and I, 318 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,960 I took them. And like we like kind of skipped nap time to do it, which is like, 319 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,360 very tired and ramy kids, but it was it was good, right? You know, I took them out to 320 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,640 for fourth of July, we do like a good neighbor day where there's another carnival and events and 321 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,520 we actually walked to that it's a little more than a mile but like we walked to that and it was great. 322 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:49,680 If not oppressively hot. So this is the question. So, so this is the conflict question I'm asking, 323 00:40:49,680 --> 00:41:02,880 like, was it worth it? And I'm going to say, yes. Yes, it was stressful. But the time I got with my 324 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:17,600 family was important. I clarified a lot of my business. And I, I landed more work. So it's, 325 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:24,400 I think if I'm trying to figure out what would have happened, what would have needed to happen 326 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:43,920 for me to say no, what would have led me to say no. I think if we weren't, 327 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,640 if I felt my kids were worse off, 328 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:58,640 that would be one. And like, don't get me wrong, there were times where I wasn't patient or my 329 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:05,440 wife wasn't patient. But like, we're, we're trying to improve and be more patient, right? I think 330 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:12,800 that's, we're not constantly screaming at them. And we try to explain things to them and we did 331 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,360 try to stay active, right? So, you know, if my kids were worse off because of it, if my business 332 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:30,320 completely fell apart, you know, like I lost, I lost work or I lost contracts or 333 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:41,040 more stuff didn't come in. You know, if I would, if I was in a worse position on August 26th, 334 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:50,960 then I was on May 27th. I think that's, that's what would make me say no. So, you know, I think 335 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:56,320 this is the good con. What was it worth it? Should you have just done summer camp? And no, 336 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:04,560 I don't think we should have. And so now like, so how did, how did I do, was it worth it? What's 337 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:12,640 next? So this will be Act 3. Close things out with the resolution. Obviously, you can't predict 338 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:21,360 the future. But I'm hoping by next year, I'll have a little bit more flexibility in my business. 339 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,760 I'm doing a lot of things now to put myself in an even better position. I saw some growth this 340 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:34,800 year so far. But I'm trying to do things to put myself in a better position for 2025. Maintain 341 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,560 the relationships that I have and, you know, manage my time maybe a little bit better than I 342 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:55,760 have been managing it. And so I will still have small children. I think my youngest will be old 343 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:07,600 at St. Joe's in the 2025-2026 season, school year. And so, you know, will we be able to cut off day 344 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:16,080 care completely? My daughter will be older. My son will be older. Will they be less needy? 345 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,160 So this is obviously stuff I need to talk to my wife about. 346 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:27,600 But based on how this year went, 347 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,520 I can definitely see us doing this again next year. 348 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:52,480 Changes I would need to make. I, we need to make more structure. More check-ins. 349 00:44:52,480 --> 00:45:04,320 And then I think I need to do a better job at time blocking or time boxing 350 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:17,360 and building in margin, right? If I look at the bad, the days I wasn't motivated felt amplified. 351 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:33,360 I think if I had built in some margin, it wouldn't feel that way. And so I think that's going to be a 352 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,360 really important one. And I think maybe just like save a little more money. 353 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:52,560 Financially, this was fine for us. But you know, saving a little more money to do some more activities 354 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,120 would also be good, right? Because there were some days where we were bored and we're like, 355 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,920 well, you know, our activity budget for the week or for the month is up. 356 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,840 We leaned on our babysitter a little bit more than I expected this year. So like having a 357 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,280 little bit more scrolled away for that too would also be good, right? And so, 358 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:23,840 you know, I think that these things will make next summer, summer 2025 more successful. 359 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,480 So, okay, so I think that's a really good, I spent more time on this than I thought. 360 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,320 So, I mean, I think the big thing that I would do in an educational, more educational episode 361 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:42,720 and less of a retrospective episode is, well, so first of all, I need a better title for this, 362 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:54,320 right? And that's going to be, was skipping summer camp worth it? Right? Because I think there are 363 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,600 probably parents out there who decided to do summer camp and they're wondering was it, 364 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:08,880 was summer camp worth it? So we'll, we'll answer this question for them. So, you know, tying it 365 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:16,320 back to the takeaways, because this is always something that, or the actionable advice, 366 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,800 this is something that I want to include in every episode, no matter what, know your schedule, 367 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:35,680 build in time for unknowns, save some extra money. I think part of it was like, we're going to save 368 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:42,240 all this money and it's not going to get spent. And it did get spent on stuff. Some extra, like, 369 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,520 so I mean, don't, don't count the money you save as money you have is maybe a big lesson here. 370 00:47:47,520 --> 00:48:00,560 And then create some margin in your work schedule is a good one. And cherish the time you have with 371 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:11,360 your children. I think it's really easy in the moment to get frustrated with your kids. And then 372 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:22,320 you remember like, hey, their home. And starting in two weeks, I will not see that most of the day. 373 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:30,320 So, yeah, I think remembering that I need to remember that more. I wish I had remembered it 374 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,840 more over the summer, but I think we had a good summer. So, okay, and then the pro show topic, 375 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:42,240 gosh, this is a toughie. I feel like I left it all out, right? If I was like, if I was kind of a 376 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:47,920 jerk, and I just wanted to get people to buy the membership more, I would leave the what's next 377 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:58,560 for the pro show, but I don't want to do that. So, I think looking at my schedule for this, 378 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:07,120 I talked about product ladders. So, I think in the pro show, I'll do like why I want something more 379 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:23,440 scalable. Talk about scalable products. Let's go about level. It's probably a good opportunity to 380 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,760 do some time tracking check in, right? Because I do track my time and sometimes I'll give a report 381 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,960 because I also think like I may not be spending my time the most wisely, right? So, 382 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:44,320 talk about scalable projects, time tracking, check in. I think those will be good, right? 383 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:54,880 Because I want to remain a solopreneur, but I also recognize that I'm going to need to do some 384 00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:02,560 things to make ends meet a little bit better. So, yeah, I think that's it. Checking the comments 385 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:08,960 here. What do I see? I see things blinking. I don't see any comments over on Facebook. I think 386 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:20,400 they would have made it over. So, yeah, I think that this will let's let's sum things up for you. 387 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,600 What did I do here for my solo episode? I thought about, I had, first of all, the title wasn't 388 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,880 really the title in the beginning. It was just the thing I wanted to talk about, right? I think 389 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,040 that's really important. I did some pre-show notes. I thought about what's the purpose of this 390 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,560 episode? What's the goal of this episode? For this one, it was a follow-up from an episode 391 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:49,360 at the beginning of the summer. And so, in another episode, right, for my micro-segments 392 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:59,840 episode, it's going to be teach the listeners about why solopreneurs should have micro-segments. 393 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,400 Ashley, thanks so much for your kind words. Insightful. Good peek into my brain. 394 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:14,320 Yes, I'm sorry you had to see that. But, yeah, I appreciate that. So, thank you so much for being 395 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:24,640 here and for your comments. So, I think that the pre-show notes helped me just get a high-level 396 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,360 overview of how did the summer go, right? I really thought about this. But my goal was to answer this 397 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,160 open thread while tying it back into how this is helpful for solopreneurs, right? Especially, 398 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,320 like, in the description, I say, busy solopreneur parents, right? And when I do an episode on 399 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:47,520 growing your email list organically or, like, how to do good presentations or some of the other 400 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:53,920 stuff I'm talking about for the rest of the year, time and task management, this really good episode 401 00:51:53,920 --> 00:52:00,640 with Terry, home studios with my friend, Jeanade, this is stuff that, something about my birthday, 402 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:08,560 I hate that. It comes out the day after my birthday. This was definitely just, like, a very tired note. 403 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:18,640 But, like, some of these other things, like, they are relevant to most people, how to do social 404 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:25,600 media without burning out. But I am a solopreneur parent, and I want to really deliver on that 405 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:32,800 promise. And so, this episode was a good one for that, tying it back to, hey, if you're a parent 406 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,720 who's trying to run a business, how do you manage those things? How am I managing those things? 407 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:45,920 And I think I'm in a pretty good position to do that because I've been a freelancer since I was 14. 408 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:55,280 So, like, every stage of my life, I have run a business, right? Like, 14, no real things. 409 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:02,800 There were no real stakes, right? It was just money coming in. And that was basically the case, 410 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:09,280 like, through school as well, like grad school and all that. And then running my side hustle 411 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:15,760 while having a full-time job, a similar full-time job, right? And then leaving that with a family, 412 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,680 right? The complete opposite of running a business at 14. There are a lot of stakes on the table. 413 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,960 And so, I'm glad I have that kind of life perspective. I'm sure a lot of people do, 414 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,400 but maybe not the, you know, I don't know how many people were freelancing at 14, though. So, 415 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:38,880 yeah, I think that this is really good, right? And so, I do the pre-show notes. I have the 416 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,040 post. I'll do this later, right? There's probably not going to be a cold open for this one. 417 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:54,480 The main takeaway is probably it's all about the known unknowns. I think that's probably the thing 418 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,080 that you're going to have to remember going into a summer where your kids are going to, 419 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:06,320 it's going to be a chaotic summer. The shorter intro, I don't need that either, right? That's 420 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:13,840 really just for after, like summarizing the interview a little bit. And then the three act, 421 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:20,080 act one, the setup, how did I do? Act two, the conflict, was it worth it? And then act three, 422 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:28,640 what's next, the resolution, with the actionable advice. Okay, this was fun. Let me know if you 423 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,480 enjoyed this sort of thing, how I could have done better. Or if you just liked it and you're 424 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:40,160 done to see more content like this. I came from the web development space until my live streams 425 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,000 were almost exclusively like watch me work live streams, like people would just watch me write 426 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,720 code or design something. And moving into this more, I don't want to say thought leadership, 427 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,560 because I hate, I don't think I'm a thought leader. I think I have thoughts, 428 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:04,880 if I say them out loud. But moving from that to something where it doesn't really make sense to 429 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,240 watch me do things. I'm trying to find the right balance. But I do love this like watch me work 430 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,000 sort of stuff. So let me know what you think, maybe like right with more right with me sessions 431 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,560 or things like that. But thanks so much for watching. Don't forget, if you are not already 432 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,680 on my mailing list, you can head over to podcastworkflows.com slash join like and subscribe 433 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:33,760 to this channel if you're watching on YouTube. And until next time, I'll see you out there. 434 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,040 If you're going to be a podcast movement, let me know. But thanks so much, everybody. I'll see you 435 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:53,520 later.