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All right. Hello, everybody. Sandow Podcast number

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62. Done this 62 times. Today's part five of

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the Foundation Company miniseries, and this time

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it's going to be all about the Star Atlas DAO.

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We're going to do a read -through of their documents,

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similar to what we did in Sandow 60, where we

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did a read -through of Sandbox Foundation documents.

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This time we're going to be doing a... a look

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into Star Atlas Foundation. Star Atlas is kind

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of like a game where Eve meets Elite Dangerous

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meets... Oh shoot, what's the other one? Star

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Citizen. So if Star Citizen, Eve, and Elite Dangerous

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all got together, had a baby, then that would

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be Star Atlas. And babies are on my mind right

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now because Little Lancer was born earlier this

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week, so... I don't know what sleep is right

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now. And yeah, life's good, though. Life's good.

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So the scope of the talk today is about an analysis

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of facts. And we're looking for the transparency

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factor where we understand what is it we're participating

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in, what is it we're doing. And that can help

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make much better, more informed decisions. Disclaimer,

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I do not represent the Sandbox Game or the Sandbox

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Foundation or Atma or Star Atlas Foundation.

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I represent none of them. I'm not your financial

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or legal advisor and nothing necessary to be

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taken as financial or legal advice. When I say

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the word SIP, I mean Sandbox Improvement Proposal.

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When I say the word HIP, I mean Polis Improvement

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Proposal, which is Star Atlas style. PVP means

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Polis Voting Power. Kind of like... Sand, voting

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power. And when I say DAO, I mean decentralized

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autonomous organization. And when I say SandFound,

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I'm talking about the Sandbox community, those

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who participate in the people, product, and purpose

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of the Sandbox game, Sandbox ecosystem. That

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ecosystem looks a little bit like this. I went

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over it in episode 31. People is everyone from

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gamers to Sandbox team. Product is everything

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from game client to the DAO. And the purpose

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is everything mentioned in the white paper to

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include what the leadership of Sandbox DAO has

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gone into. That ecosystem goes round and round

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every day where we all interact with each other

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to improve the ecosystem. Today's episode is

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all about the DAO, specifically lessons from

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other DAOs and Star Atlas DAO. So if you are

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Star Atlas, welcome and glad you're here. I see

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you, Zamzor, Emperor. Who else? I saw a couple

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others. Mike. Appreciate having you. I am your

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host, Lanzer. I am president of MetaWorlds, and

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we have published two experiences within Sandbox.

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One was Floor Droppers, which made Alpha Season

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4, ranked 7th of about 400, and... And Lava Defense,

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which was Game Maker Fun 2023? 2024? I think

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2023. Time flies. So let's go over a little bit

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of a recap. Today, episode 62. We started in

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episode 56 with Sandal 34. And then we progressed

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57, 59, 60, 62. All those are parts of the larger

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whole. Today is part five. We're going over Star

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Atlas. I'm doing a comparison with ApeCoin, DAO,

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and Sandbox. And then we'll be reading through

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Star Atlas Foundation Member Association and

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the Articles of Association. Part six, if I can

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help it, we'll have Melissa and Carolyn on for

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Markers Global. That was Sandow59 in part three,

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where they can answer the Q &As that we didn't

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get to. Let's go through a recap. Sandow 34 was

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a look into the Sandbox style origin. We traced

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lineage of companies, people, entities, how they

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all interact with each other. Then fast forward

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to Sandow 56. We started the mini series for

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foundation companies. It took me that long to

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research into everything I needed to do, which

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was... Yay. Welcome, Sandbox family. SamVam,

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just made it in the house. Thank you for the

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raid. Lucas and Kami, appreciate you. We're just

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now going over a recap. So Sandow34 was looking

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to the sandbox style origin. Sandow56 was a reading

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of the Cayman Island law. That one was like three

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hours, four hours long. It was pretty long. And

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then Sandow57, we did a review of United States

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case law and how DAOs were forming. A lot of

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it was happening in California. Hey, what's up?

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Tom? Armody? Armadilla? Armadillia? And then

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Sandow59, which is a brief from Cayman Islands

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lawyers from Walkers Global, that's Melissa and

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Carolyn, they gave us kind of like an orientation

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into sandbox, into foundation companies, their

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legal structure, how they work, all that. And

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then recently, We did Sandow 60, which was a

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reading of the Sandbox style document. That podcast

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was six hours long. Six hours. I didn't, I didn't

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intend for it to be six hours, but it was. And

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that's how long it took me to get through the

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reading of their articles of association and

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memory of association. I don't intend on this

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taking six hours for Star Atlas. I have some

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things that might, some things I want to go over,

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but the whole. The two documents are 16 pages

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for Star Atlas. It's not going to take us that

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long. And they don't have a constitution. I'm

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not going to go over the government's framework,

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all that stuff. I'll just touch on it lightly.

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But yeah. So welcome to my SanFam people. Hey,

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Yuma. Good to see you. So there you go. Started

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with Sandow 34, 56, 57, 59, 60. And now we're

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on to Sandow 62, which is Lessons from Other

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Dals, a reading of Star Atlas Foundation. Star

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Atlas is kind of like Star Citizen meets Elite

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Dangerous meets EVE Online. They have a very,

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very well connected down. Okay, so Sandal 34.

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We originally explored this relationship map

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or what we thought was happening. And this is

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what I came up with. The whole rigmarole of who

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is connected to who and what. This is back when

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we have no idea and I had to Google search all

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of this to try and figure it out. I still think

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I got a little bit of it wrong, but... A lot

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of it was very revealing and transparency and

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all that sort of stuff. Then Google Maps, Google

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searched all the key players of Sandbox DAO.

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Turns out they're all on the same street. So

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for my Star Atlas people and my Ipcoin DAO people,

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you're not too far away, maybe like a 10 -minute

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drive from where this is. Everyone lives in the

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same kind of business district of the Grand Cayman

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Islands. I thought there was some significance

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of them being on the same street, as in like

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they all knew each other, but actually, turns

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out the reason why they're all there is because

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to be a part of a foundation company, you have

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to be licensed, certified, and all these different

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rules. They have all these different rules in

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place to do foundation company stuff. So in order

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to provide management services, director, secretary,

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legal counsel, management services, all those

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sorts of things, It makes a lot of sense why

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some of them are all next door to each other.

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Again, it's a small island, smaller than Jamaica,

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and yeah, they're pretty close together. Then

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we went over our law regulation stack. So this

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is how we interpreted the rules that we talked

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about in Sandow 56, where Companies Act, Foundation

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Companies Law, and the case law on top of that.

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Companies Management Act, Director's Registration

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Licensing Law, which we figured out in our talk

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with Melissa and Carolyn from Walker's Global

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that that's not applicable. And a company citation

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of Acts Parliament Law, the Virtual Asset Service

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Provider Act, and the Securities Investment Business

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Law. So we talked about all that in Sandow 56,

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trying to figure out how it all comes together.

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And then in part two is when we had Ernest, who

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is a practicing lawyer in the United States,

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talk about the evolving case law and mostly California.

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And then part three is when we had the practicing

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lawyers from Walker's Global, from Grand Cayman

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Islands. Okay, all of this is to make sense of

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these things. And for my Star Atlas people, this

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is also the same for you. All of these words

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that we started seeing, articles of association.

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Foundation. Foundation company. Limited by guarantee.

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Memorandum association. Without any share capital.

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Cayman Islands. Why are we paying $50? What is

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a subscriber? Cayman Islands General Registry.

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An exempted company. All of these things started

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making sense once we delved into this regulation

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stack. It all made sense after that. So... Yeah,

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that's what this mini -series is. It was an investigation

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into all of this legal mumbo -jumbo to figure

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out what's going on, who's doing what. You know,

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that old Three Stooges skit. Like, who's on first?

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I think it's Three Stooges. But who's on first?

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Then I tried my hand at creating a flowchart

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of how foundation companies are created. This

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was my best guess. And then after talking with

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lawyers and seeing everything up until this point

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with our mini -series, this is about where I

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landed. So I updated it as per Part 3, where

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when a DAO wants to become a foundation company,

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they start selecting service providers. Those

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service providers then create the Memorandum

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of Association and Articles of Association, and

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then that creates the foundation, which acts

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as a DAO wrapper. Not like M &M wrapper, like

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a candy wrapper. wraps the DAO. Then Sandow 57,

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we talked about, oh, excuse me, that was Sandow

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56. It's when we talked about the flow charts

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and we went through all of the language of foundation

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company law and Companies Act. And then Sandow

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57, we talked with Ernest, a practicing lawyer

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in the United States, about OkieDAO, BZXDAO,

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LidoDAO. And then also we went into Dow companies

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within the United States and compared them. So

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over in how Utah has a for -profit approach to

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Dow is called a limited liability decentralized

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autonomous organization, otherwise known as LLDs.

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Wyoming takes an unincorporated nonprofit approach

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and they call that a DUNA. Vermont takes a expanded

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LLC approach called a BBLLC. Blockchain -based

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limited liability. And Tennessee just added DAOs

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to their list of LLCs. All right, then we went

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into some key opinion frameworks, such as SEC's

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investigative report from July 2017, some framework

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for investment contracts from April 2019, different

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stuff like that, and different laws that apply

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to DAOs and how they're being used in the court

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system, such as the long -arm statute, conducts

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and effects tests. One of those articles led

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us to episode 59, which was part three of our

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Foundation Company miniseries, where we talk

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with Melissa and Carolyn about foundation companies,

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and we listen to them tell us, as if we were

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a new client, what is a foundation company? Went

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through things like why would a DAO form and

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came in Island Foundation Company? Timeline of

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events, how we went from, this was super interesting,

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I didn't know this, how we went from A, after

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incorporation, you go from a director -led, meaning

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the director owns and can do whatever they want,

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and then transition to a token holder -led. And

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then what documents are required to form a foundation

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company? We went over many, many different things.

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And then, yeah, I highly recommend. That is some

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wonderful knowledge they imparted, and I hope

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to get the bank on again in the future. Then

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we got to Sandell 60. Oh, Lord. Sandell 60 was

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supposed to be one and a half hours, two hours

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long. Ended up being six hours long. Six hours

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long. We did a read -through of the Memorandum

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of Association, taking into account everything

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we learned in the previous parts and the reading

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of the Cayman Islands Law. We read through Articles

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of Association, and then we read through the

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bylaws. Not to be confused with the Constitution,

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even though it says it right here, the Constitution.

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We know that the Constitution means Articles

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of Association plus the Memorandum of Association,

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not bylaws. The Foundation Company Law and the

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Companies Act is very specific about that. The

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Constitution is not bylaws. So I think that's

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just, you know, sandboxed out, calling it the

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Constitution and not realizing the conflict.

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But no harm, no foul. Okay? Then we read through

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the Memorandum of Association. You know, we found

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things like... There were some questions, some

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big questions left over, like does the Virtual

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Asset Service Provider Act apply to the sandbox

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DAO? Does the Securities Investment Business

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Act apply? Who are the beneficiaries? I need

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to know that. Is SanFam a beneficiary? I can't

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tell. And who's the founder? What is that founder

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role? We read through the article association

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and some questions I had is, is the IPNA, which

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is the signatory on our articles, is it Michael

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Robinson? Is he, he's also director. What I understand,

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um, there's, there's some confusion there on

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that, that front. And did the initial subscriber

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become the founder or director? Some of these

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things I'll be looking at in Star Atlas DAOs

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documents to see if they're the same question

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that comes from this. And is the special counsel

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or advisory board considered members? Don't know.

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Can't tell if they're members or beneficiaries.

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And what may restrict or prohibit members. How

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do all these positions act day to day? In the

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previous episode in Standout59, I called this

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my rectangle of confusion. It's my rectangle

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of confusion. Yuma said... Oh, Yuma. That's totally

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true. Yuma said Sandel60 was like an entire RPG.

00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:15.059
You're so right. You are so right. Where are

00:16:15.059 --> 00:16:22.809
you, Yuma? There we go. Appreciate that, Yuma.

00:16:22.950 --> 00:16:28.129
I take that as a compliment. Yeah, so all of

00:16:28.129 --> 00:16:31.250
my Star Atlas people, say hello to my Sandbox

00:16:31.250 --> 00:16:34.649
DAO people. You are cross -DAOing right now.

00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:38.570
Star Atlas is, as I mentioned, like Star Citizen

00:16:38.570 --> 00:16:41.950
meets EVE Online meets Elite Dangerous. And Sandbox

00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:45.970
is like Minecraft meets, I don't know, The Sims

00:16:45.970 --> 00:16:50.840
or Civilization. So you're both metaverses, you're

00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.379
both games, and I play both of you. You're both

00:16:54.379 --> 00:17:00.519
a lot of fun. Hey Bert, good to see you. Tom

00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:09.400
Voxel, Yuma, Armadilla, Tom, Zamsor, Emperor,

00:17:09.660 --> 00:17:14.079
saying hello to everybody in the chat. Alright,

00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:16.079
back to what we were just talking about. So that

00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:21.529
was... And then we talked, we lastly covered

00:17:21.529 --> 00:17:23.950
the bylaws and this was Sandow 60. I'm referring

00:17:23.950 --> 00:17:28.289
to the bylaws, which is some random common questions.

00:17:28.430 --> 00:17:30.529
There was why three consecutive terms, why not

00:17:30.529 --> 00:17:34.730
five or unlimited or zero or one? And why is

00:17:34.730 --> 00:17:37.069
the advisory board able to be removed by the

00:17:37.069 --> 00:17:39.150
special counsel, but not other advisory board

00:17:39.150 --> 00:17:41.769
members? That part was confusing. The special

00:17:41.769 --> 00:17:43.769
counsel can remove itself, but the advisory board

00:17:43.769 --> 00:17:47.980
cannot remove itself. Not sure. Advisory boards

00:17:47.980 --> 00:17:49.859
are not compensated where special council members

00:17:49.859 --> 00:17:52.299
are. So there's kind of a big question mark there.

00:17:52.619 --> 00:17:54.440
And then last but not least, we did an entity

00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.380
search where we searched Sandbox Foundation within

00:17:57.380 --> 00:17:59.920
the Grand Cayman Islands Registry, looked at

00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:02.480
some things that proved that the stamp was valid,

00:18:02.579 --> 00:18:09.779
and we looked at the statuses of different people

00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:11.700
and players within the Sandbox DAO. We'll be

00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:15.680
doing the same for Star Atlas today. And also

00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:20.619
for my 8 -point DAO people, you are also in here.

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You could be found just the same way. All that

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led to a TLDR. You know, what is a foundation

00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.839
company? It's both the name of the Sandbox DAO

00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.279
and Star Atlas DAO, and it's a type of company.

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What does exempted mean? It means it's a company

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that does business outside of the Grand Cayman

00:18:38.180 --> 00:18:40.660
Islands. Limited by guarantee, it means that

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members of the foundation can only lose what

00:18:42.819 --> 00:18:44.960
they put into the company. Usually that's money

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or assets. Without any share capital means that

00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.559
there are no units of ownership. So there's no

00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.039
stakeholders, or excuse me, no shareholders.

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So that kind of profit incentive isn't quite

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there. Articles and memorandum of association.

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Memo creates the foundation company. Articles

00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:05.859
describe how it will be operated. Bylaws establish

00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:09.579
internal business rules. Lots of businesses down

00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:12.579
the Cayman Highlands. There are over 120 ,000

00:19:12.579 --> 00:19:14.710
active companies. in the Grand Cayman Islands.

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And 1 ,000 companies registered in one month

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alone. For the foundation roles, the foundation

00:19:22.069 --> 00:19:25.230
roles are very flexible. The subscriber creates

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the foundation company. The director will lead

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the foundation company. Secretaries license to

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document, record, and certify things within the

00:19:31.710 --> 00:19:34.670
foundation company. And members, founders, officers,

00:19:34.849 --> 00:19:38.490
supervisors, managers, all conduct daily activities

00:19:38.490 --> 00:19:40.769
within the foundation company. And everything

00:19:40.769 --> 00:19:42.980
is grant... Governed by the Grand Cayman Island

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law. Which you can find. By Google searching

00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:53.059
it. But also. By going to the. Cayman Islands.

00:19:56.180 --> 00:20:00.779
Wrong button. But you can. By going to the Grand

00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:04.059
Cayman Islands. And go to the website. Click.

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I realize you can't see that. Give me a second.

00:20:09.500 --> 00:20:11.859
There we go. Grand Cayman Islands website, go

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to action registrations, and you can see all

00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.200
sorts of stuff. Or you can just go to the mini

00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.059
-series within my podcast, and I show you all

00:20:20.059 --> 00:20:23.700
of this. I go through everything. All right.

00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:29.859
So y 'all are now officially up to speed. We

00:20:29.859 --> 00:20:34.819
recapped Sandow 34, 56, 57, 59, 60. I highly

00:20:34.819 --> 00:20:37.650
recommend go back to watch some of these. There

00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:40.009
was so much information I couldn't possibly do

00:20:40.009 --> 00:20:42.910
the recap justice. I did the best I could, though.

00:20:43.009 --> 00:20:46.369
Like I said, Sandow60 was six hours just by itself.

00:20:46.589 --> 00:20:49.829
I can't believe I did a six -hour podcast. That's

00:20:49.829 --> 00:20:55.210
crazy. So today is Sandow62. Star Atlas. All

00:20:55.210 --> 00:20:59.130
my Star Atlas Tao people, say hi to my Samhux

00:20:59.130 --> 00:21:02.990
Tao people. Hey, Blue Tulip, good to see you.

00:21:04.829 --> 00:21:09.650
Star Atlas Tao. Here we go. First, we're going

00:21:09.650 --> 00:21:13.769
to do a comparison. I'm involved in ApeCoinDAO,

00:21:13.950 --> 00:21:16.410
SandboxDAO, and now ArtlistDAO. And I want to

00:21:16.410 --> 00:21:18.490
do a comparison just to kind of show a little

00:21:18.490 --> 00:21:21.309
bit of difference here. So the ApeCoinDAO began

00:21:21.309 --> 00:21:26.369
March 2022. AIP -1 approved the creation of ApeCoinDAO.

00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:29.329
AIP -2 approved the voting process for ApeCoinDAO.

00:21:29.430 --> 00:21:33.630
And AIP -3 approved the initial budget for ApeCoinDAO.

00:21:33.950 --> 00:21:37.750
Whereas in the SandboxDAO... It came into being

00:21:37.750 --> 00:21:41.789
two years later in May of 2024. SIP 1 approved

00:21:41.789 --> 00:21:45.710
the creation of the Sandbox DAO. SIP 2 approved

00:21:45.710 --> 00:21:47.730
the acceptance of the Sandbox DAO Foundation.

00:21:48.769 --> 00:21:51.369
And SIP 3 approved the initial budget for Sandbox

00:21:51.369 --> 00:21:55.950
DAO. I think I finally figured out why there

00:21:55.950 --> 00:21:58.769
are SIPs to create Sandbox DAOs. It has to do

00:21:58.769 --> 00:22:01.069
with the wrapper. And we'll go over that later

00:22:01.069 --> 00:22:05.819
on. Star Atlas DAO. I actually didn't realize

00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:08.740
that Star Atlas Tao didn't come into being until

00:22:08.740 --> 00:22:11.140
two months later after Sandbox Tao. For some

00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:12.579
reason, I thought Star Atlas Tao had been around

00:22:12.579 --> 00:22:16.619
a lot longer. But it came into being July 2024,

00:22:16.940 --> 00:22:22.640
so it is even newer than Sandbox Tao. Pip 1 approves

00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.000
the creation of Star Atlas Tao. That was in July

00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:31.299
2024. Pip 2 approves the acceptance of Star Atlas

00:22:31.299 --> 00:22:34.450
Foundation in the Grand Cayman Islands. PIP 3

00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:36.170
approves the creation of the Star Atlas Council,

00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:39.910
and PIP 4 reserved 20 % of the budget for grants

00:22:39.910 --> 00:22:41.869
by the community members called the Star Atlas

00:22:41.869 --> 00:22:44.710
Ecosystem Fund. I had a big question about PIP

00:22:44.710 --> 00:22:47.589
4 as to why you even needed PIP 4, when you could

00:22:47.589 --> 00:22:50.029
just submit a PIP to do what you want to do.

00:22:50.910 --> 00:22:54.130
That's what all the other DAOs do. But what I

00:22:54.130 --> 00:22:56.829
understood is that PIP 4 kind of created like

00:22:56.829 --> 00:23:00.210
a, for my ApeCoin DAO people, like a mini banana

00:23:00.210 --> 00:23:04.519
bill, or for my Sandbox people. A mini sand chest.

00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:08.160
Where you created like a. An expedited process.

00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.619
Within the larger process. Or I'm sorry. For

00:23:12.619 --> 00:23:14.859
sandbox. It's the new one we're voting on now.

00:23:15.099 --> 00:23:23.240
The SGDP. The sandbox DAO grants program. I think

00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:25.579
that's the reason why it's there. But you could

00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:29.700
still. Put forth pips. For anything else you

00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:32.690
would like. But. Or you could utilize the 20

00:23:32.690 --> 00:23:37.569
% budget for PIP4. Okay, that's our comparative

00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:40.769
between the three. But let's take a look at Star

00:23:40.769 --> 00:23:50.450
Atlas DAO. Just a brief glance. Atma is the company

00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:56.809
behind Star Atlas. So if we go to LinkedIn and

00:23:56.809 --> 00:24:02.190
say, no, I don't want to join now. Can we not...

00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:10.210
Just... Just let me see it. Let me see... Oh,

00:24:10.230 --> 00:24:13.410
you're going to make me sign up for LinkedIn?

00:24:13.630 --> 00:24:18.630
No, I don't want to do that. That's annoying.

00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:25.529
That is very annoying. So anyways, there is a

00:24:25.529 --> 00:24:28.309
LinkedIn for Atma, and I was going to show you

00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:32.240
the people that work there. The CEO is... Michael

00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:38.180
Wagner. And I saw on his LinkedIn. Here we go.

00:24:39.619 --> 00:24:43.720
I saw on his LinkedIn, he's a CFA. I think that

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:51.900
means certified financial accountant. A chartered

00:24:51.900 --> 00:24:55.220
financial analyst, maybe. Or certified. Yeah,

00:24:55.319 --> 00:25:02.880
but anyways. That seems pretty cool. What is

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:09.480
a CFA? I'll put chartered financial analyst.

00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.019
Hey, Zamzor said the Star Atlas governance site

00:25:14.019 --> 00:25:17.079
launched in August of 2022. Polls holders could

00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.180
start staking. July 2024 date was when the official

00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:25.220
on -chain PIP1 passed to ratify. Thanks, Zamzor.

00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:34.640
I'm going to update this. So PIP1 was July 2024,

00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:41.700
and then I guess the DAO launched in August 2022,

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.700
but PIP1 didn't happen until July 2024, two years

00:25:45.700 --> 00:25:48.099
later. Okay, cool. Thanks, Samsor. Appreciate

00:25:48.099 --> 00:25:52.019
that. All right. Chartered financial analyst

00:25:52.019 --> 00:25:54.519
is a globally recognized professional designation

00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.680
awarded by CFA Institute to individuals demonstrating

00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.670
expertise in investment analysis. Wealth management.

00:26:01.730 --> 00:26:09.190
Cool. Very cool. All right. So Michael Wagner,

00:26:09.490 --> 00:26:14.089
he is the CEO of Star Atlas. Yes, cool. Now I

00:26:14.089 --> 00:26:18.349
can see. And let's close up a little bit. There's

00:26:18.349 --> 00:26:23.210
Atma right there. Atma. They say Atma. And here

00:26:23.210 --> 00:26:30.980
you go. They have Atma .com. Website. automata

00:26:30.980 --> 00:26:35.799
that's right automata that's what they say so

00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.519
automata it's very unassuming just that cool

00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:44.180
so automata uh there's some employees one of

00:26:44.180 --> 00:26:46.940
them here is listed uh that we're about to talk

00:26:46.940 --> 00:26:54.759
about here's michael wagner and you know oh there

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.539
it is china chartered financial analyst very

00:26:57.539 --> 00:27:02.259
cool so an investment Expert, sounds like. And

00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:09.279
then our general counsel for Automata is Dan

00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:13.400
Park. The only reason I'm really bringing these

00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.539
up is because they're actually very, very, very

00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:20.920
active in the Discord for Star Artless. And it

00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:26.039
is worthwhile to bring them up because they play

00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.359
a role. We're about to go. Near Dan Park, he

00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.519
is legal counsel for Star Atlas. Coming out of

00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:41.539
Berkeley. Also, I saw Harvard University, so

00:27:41.539 --> 00:27:47.079
very well educated. Yeah, very cool. I lived

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.500
in Boston for a time, so right next door to Harvard.

00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:53.380
So anyways, I realize you all can't see what

00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:57.539
I'm saying. So the general counsel for Automata.

00:27:59.309 --> 00:28:02.289
Alright, and then let's take a brief look into

00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:05.690
the pips that got us here. So Star Atlas Council

00:28:05.690 --> 00:28:12.190
was pip 3. There were over 20 people for round

00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:18.230
1 of the Star Atlas Council. And then pip 6 was

00:28:18.230 --> 00:28:21.730
round 1, whereas pip 3 approved the council.

00:28:22.490 --> 00:28:25.490
Pip 6 was election number 1 with over 20 people.

00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:29.880
PIP7 was the second round of elections. It was

00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.880
a down selection based on if you got enough votes,

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.380
I believe. Zamzer, you can correct me on that

00:28:36.380 --> 00:28:42.500
one. Zamzer in the chat said, the team from Automata

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:44.259
is very transparent, very engaged with the community.

00:28:44.420 --> 00:28:47.039
Absolutely, Zamzer. That is exactly what I saw

00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:51.759
right away. And also, Zamzer, I'm showing on

00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.960
the screen. the what he said earlier which was

00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.259
the site was launched in august 2022 and the

00:28:57.259 --> 00:28:59.519
first paper was july 2024 thank you so much for

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.740
that correction appreciate that yeah emperor

00:29:03.740 --> 00:29:07.339
emperor said um probably transparent for their

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:12.819
own good this being around so many degens absolutely

00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:18.059
so that was pip seven and the the five who won

00:29:18.059 --> 00:29:26.430
it were jp funcracker king brian bode and And

00:29:26.430 --> 00:29:31.430
then Pip 9 adjusted the single transferable vote.

00:29:31.529 --> 00:29:34.829
I still don't fully understand it, but from what

00:29:34.829 --> 00:29:40.210
I gather is that if each voter gets a quota that

00:29:40.210 --> 00:29:41.990
they have to meet in order to be considered a

00:29:41.990 --> 00:29:44.529
winner, and if you get more than that, then that

00:29:44.529 --> 00:29:47.690
extra goes down to the next person. And so it

00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:50.910
kind of stops wasted votes is what I understand.

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.240
So that was just happened like maybe a month

00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.059
ago. And then a few weeks ago, PIP 10 came out,

00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:05.559
which was the second council elections for, oh,

00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:07.519
excuse me, this is a second term and beyond.

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:12.500
So PIP 10 was all about adjusting the terms.

00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:14.480
We're still going to have five council members,

00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.019
still going to have, instead of six month terms,

00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.289
now it's going to be nine month terms. That's

00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:26.269
a big change. PIP 10. And so for my SanFam people,

00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:30.470
these are what we call constitutional SIPs that

00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:35.410
only right now the sandbox admin team can do.

00:30:36.150 --> 00:30:40.109
So over in Star Atlas, they are governing, they're

00:30:40.109 --> 00:30:42.529
kind of like their own admin team. And the Star

00:30:42.529 --> 00:30:45.029
Atlas Council kind of functions as a pseudo admin

00:30:45.029 --> 00:30:50.190
team from sandbox DAO equivalent. And then PIP

00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:54.250
11 came about, which is brand new. It ends 2nd

00:30:54.250 --> 00:30:56.750
March. It's currently going voting and it's for

00:30:56.750 --> 00:31:00.190
the second council to be elected. And full disclosure

00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:03.609
is I am running. I'm running as one of those

00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:06.910
council members. So yesterday I was like rank

00:31:06.910 --> 00:31:09.750
five and then I'm in rank three. Then I was rank

00:31:09.750 --> 00:31:12.549
one. I'm rank two and then rank five again. I'm

00:31:12.549 --> 00:31:14.470
all over the place. I'm still trying to figure

00:31:14.470 --> 00:31:17.309
out what's what's happening there. But I've been

00:31:17.309 --> 00:31:19.970
I'm in the. I've been in the top five thus far,

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:23.690
so, you know. Anyways, I'm running, full disclosure.

00:31:25.069 --> 00:31:27.710
All right, let's keep going. Let's go into the

00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:31.250
actual Star Atlas DAO website itself over here.

00:31:33.049 --> 00:31:35.630
Okay, so I want to show you, we're not going

00:31:35.630 --> 00:31:39.069
to spend too much time on these because so much

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:41.269
of what we're going to be doing is not this and

00:31:41.269 --> 00:31:44.089
the foundation. But here's the Star Atlas DAO

00:31:44.089 --> 00:31:47.950
govern .staratlas .com website. really really

00:31:47.950 --> 00:31:51.329
cool i love how integrated it is similar to how

00:31:51.329 --> 00:31:55.309
in the sandbox style similar to how in the sandbox

00:31:55.309 --> 00:31:58.410
style they have the proposals here within the

00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:02.490
sandbox style website yeah so you can click here

00:32:02.490 --> 00:32:04.950
it will load you can connect your wallet and

00:32:04.950 --> 00:32:09.910
then vote like one of the chrysalis quest that's

00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:12.569
going on right now star atlas is doing something

00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:15.789
similar but they took it a step further and integrated

00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:20.210
a staking uh staking what they call the polis

00:32:20.210 --> 00:32:22.990
locker which is their governance token which

00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:27.869
is basically sand and land if your sandbox polis

00:32:27.869 --> 00:32:30.029
is kind of like that combined and then atlas

00:32:30.029 --> 00:32:31.589
which is kind of like their in -game currency

00:32:31.589 --> 00:32:34.029
so they have a locker where you can stake and

00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:37.029
earn rewards at the top here you've got the proposals

00:32:37.029 --> 00:32:40.690
all the way down to the first one that we'll

00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:43.549
be going over which was the star atlas dow that

00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:49.500
was These here, these right here that we're talking

00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:54.700
about. And then they have a nice treasury dashboard,

00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.640
which shows just how much money right now they

00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.279
have about 1 .6 million. And the interesting

00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.140
thing about Star Atlas DAO that I've come across

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:08.019
different than ApeCoin and Sandbox is the Star

00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:13.220
Atlas DAO is already self -sufficient. The Sandbox

00:33:13.220 --> 00:33:19.680
DAO receives... endowments from the the sandbox

00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:25.259
game company but star atlas has a very very active

00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:28.339
marketplace they buy ships currency all sorts

00:33:28.339 --> 00:33:32.640
of stuff and on solana chain and the the transaction

00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.819
fees a percentage of that goes to funding the

00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:39.940
dow treasury so you can they already have revenue

00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:44.880
like this is where sandbox wants to go Right,

00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:47.339
so just this past month, it looks like they earned

00:33:47.339 --> 00:33:51.240
$89 ,000 in marketplace fees. And something about

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.400
gang activity, they earned about half a million.

00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:55.920
That much, I don't know. I still need to figure

00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.900
that part out. But, no, wait, here we go. You

00:33:59.900 --> 00:34:05.240
can see for January 2025, January's revenue was

00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.619
$119 ,000. $102 ,000 was from in -game activity.

00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.320
And about $20 ,000 was from marketplace fees.

00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.579
So they are already, the players themselves are

00:34:16.579 --> 00:34:22.920
fueling the economy of Star Atlas. Whereas in

00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:29.320
my, that doesn't work. Let's make it unrestricted

00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:35.960
so you can see what I see. So we receive endowments

00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.800
from Star Atlas, dang it, from Sandbox. And let's

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.579
see. which slide was it not this one oh there's

00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:47.460
some interesting facts for my starless people

00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:51.179
about sandbox we they have nft lands those lands

00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:54.699
you build on like you would minecraft and if

00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:56.900
you have one land you get 4 500 voting power

00:34:56.900 --> 00:34:59.500
per land and if you have one sand you get one

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:02.099
voting power so sand is their token equivalent

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:06.159
to it's kind of like a cross between polis and

00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.880
atlas is what they call sand and they're on the

00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.570
polygon Whereas, startless folks, you're on Solana.

00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:17.949
Here. So here's the budget for Sandbox. They

00:35:17.949 --> 00:35:21.130
get $15 .5 million about a year, which is roughly

00:35:21.130 --> 00:35:24.849
$4 million from the Sandbox game company. And

00:35:24.849 --> 00:35:32.050
they receive $25 .5 million in May of 2024. And

00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:33.769
that's what they've been lasting off of until

00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:38.590
they get another $15 million sand in the next

00:35:38.590 --> 00:35:42.690
month or two. And that is to keep injecting fuel

00:35:42.690 --> 00:35:45.409
into the DAO until the DAO can become self -sufficient

00:35:45.409 --> 00:35:49.929
like Star Atlas DAO is right now. And Zamzor

00:35:49.929 --> 00:35:52.690
said exactly what I'm about to get into, which

00:35:52.690 --> 00:35:58.230
is here at the top. If you click more at the

00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:00.690
top, then you'll see the ecosystem dashboard.

00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:04.389
It's managed by the econ team, which holds monthly

00:36:04.389 --> 00:36:08.170
community forums led by a guy in PhD. Oh, who

00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:12.489
is that? Samsor, who's that person? Is that a

00:36:12.489 --> 00:36:14.429
community thing or is that an automata thing?

00:36:15.989 --> 00:36:20.110
All right, and then if you click more here at

00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:22.929
the top, then you'll see locker details, emission

00:36:22.929 --> 00:36:26.429
rates. Like it's a very, very well -built backend.

00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:30.090
It is extremely well -documented. So my sandbox

00:36:30.090 --> 00:36:34.550
people, my ApeCoin DAO people, they are not nearly

00:36:34.550 --> 00:36:37.500
as detailed. Their backends are not nearly as

00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:39.400
detailed. I had to Google search so much stuff

00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.159
in order to get to where I am, whereas I come

00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.179
to StarHotList and it's like, here's a GitHub

00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:45.900
or a Gitbook. Here's a more page with all sorts

00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:48.420
of stuff in it. It was really cool. And then

00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:51.139
the white paper, economics paper, sustainment

00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:52.300
governance paper. We'll have a slide in this

00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:55.760
here in a second. But lots of cool stuff all

00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.380
over this website. And yeah, that's what they're

00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:03.539
working with. So let's get back into it. We were

00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:08.440
here. All right, so the DAO treasury, we just

00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.739
went over that, is $1 .7 million. So a little

00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:17.340
bit smaller than about maybe half the size of

00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:19.960
Sandbox DAO. And ApeCoin DAO is like hundreds

00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.840
of millions. So we're all small compared to them.

00:37:25.820 --> 00:37:28.280
All right, next slide is the DAO material. So

00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.119
this was just me doing research into Star Atlas

00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:35.150
DAO, because I'm new in terms of... Compared

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:37.570
to Sandbox, I've been in Sandbox for maybe two,

00:37:37.690 --> 00:37:39.929
three years now. Star Artless DAO, I've been

00:37:39.929 --> 00:37:43.510
lurking in the shadows, kind of watching to see

00:37:43.510 --> 00:37:45.710
what would happen. And then November, I decided

00:37:45.710 --> 00:37:48.489
to take the plunge to really get involved because

00:37:48.489 --> 00:37:52.389
things realigned in my life. I had more free

00:37:52.389 --> 00:37:55.570
time to figure stuff out, and I was DAOing hard.

00:37:55.889 --> 00:37:58.269
And Star Artless DAO was one of the standouts.

00:37:59.530 --> 00:38:02.110
So what first began as kind of like an investigation

00:38:02.110 --> 00:38:04.800
into the lessons learned. Then became a, hey,

00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.099
this is a game I want to play. And now I'm running

00:38:07.099 --> 00:38:11.659
for council. All right, so Dell Treasury. All

00:38:11.659 --> 00:38:13.159
right, then let's get into the Dell material.

00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.099
So when you're trying to figure out what to learn

00:38:16.099 --> 00:38:22.440
about the Star Atlas. Hey, Pepe. Pepe from Sandrush.

00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.280
He's a very well -known sandbox person. And is

00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.630
currently creating a very... very useful tool

00:38:32.630 --> 00:38:37.969
for sandbox people to make building in sandbox

00:38:37.969 --> 00:38:43.530
very, very easy. So, hey. All right, so in the

00:38:43.530 --> 00:38:46.469
DAO material, there's multiple ways to get at

00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:49.869
the information that we're after. And what information

00:38:49.869 --> 00:38:51.849
are we after? We're trying to figure out about

00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:53.489
the foundation. So how do I find out about the

00:38:53.489 --> 00:38:56.150
foundation? I started reading through their white

00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:59.409
paper, their sustainment governance framework,

00:38:59.690 --> 00:39:02.329
economics paper. and you can find that by going

00:39:02.329 --> 00:39:07.690
to the star atlas website yeah as soon as it

00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:14.050
loads here in a second come on okay so in the

00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:17.989
star atlas website if you go down to click i

00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:20.650
mean you'll see it it's down here too but here's

00:39:20.650 --> 00:39:23.329
the press kit and the press kit has the papers

00:39:23.329 --> 00:39:29.889
right so i have a little screenshot of what that

00:39:29.889 --> 00:39:32.710
looks like and then as you just saw if you click

00:39:32.710 --> 00:39:37.949
the more page on the governance website so launch

00:39:37.949 --> 00:39:40.989
the governance act and here at the top right

00:39:40.989 --> 00:39:44.789
hit more if you scroll down you'll see the white

00:39:44.789 --> 00:39:46.389
paper economics paper and it's the same governance

00:39:46.389 --> 00:39:50.230
these things have a load of excellent information

00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:52.530
in them you want to read that if you want to

00:39:52.530 --> 00:39:56.090
be a star atlas it is extremely helpful to figure

00:39:56.090 --> 00:39:58.300
out what's going on here So for the white paper,

00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.420
I'm not going to read everything. We're here

00:40:00.420 --> 00:40:03.639
for the foundation documents. The white paper

00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.780
is 42 pages. It's fair. It's a good one. It gets

00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:09.300
into blockchain mechanics. Well, I can't see

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:14.059
what I see. There we go. All right, so here's

00:40:14.059 --> 00:40:17.880
the Star Atlas white paper. And it gets into

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.699
blockchain mechanics, core game mechanics, purpose

00:40:20.699 --> 00:40:24.619
of the paper. What is Star Atlas? It's a hybrid

00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:28.059
space game. Then they get into some lore, asset

00:40:28.059 --> 00:40:31.980
sales, phased approach that they have, gameplay

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:35.860
pillars and security zones and different things

00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:40.440
you can do. And then economics. I was very interested

00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.119
in this. I read a lot about this. Atlas is their

00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.179
in -game currency. Pulse is their governance

00:40:45.179 --> 00:40:49.920
token, both of which are on Solana. And deflationary

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:54.119
things, token burns, the value matrix was cool.

00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.659
i'll show that to you all real fast here i really

00:40:58.659 --> 00:41:03.280
enjoyed looking at the value matrix um take a

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:10.119
look at that oh come on i just saw it go down

00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.059
later so that's 6 .2 6 .12 then market research

00:41:14.059 --> 00:41:16.300
what you know how are they positioning against

00:41:16.300 --> 00:41:18.800
everyone else the different tools they have post

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.030
live growth conclusion and reference so That

00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:27.449
value metric was on page 20. All right, take

00:41:27.449 --> 00:41:30.389
a look at this. Where is it? Economics, economics.

00:41:32.469 --> 00:41:36.889
Come on, almost there. Keep going. Oh, that's

00:41:36.889 --> 00:41:41.329
cool. Competitors kind of got like a self -evaluation

00:41:41.329 --> 00:41:47.570
tool. So if you ever want to know what, how do

00:41:47.570 --> 00:41:50.739
they think they compare to Stellaris, Starbound,

00:41:51.139 --> 00:41:55.139
Star Conflict, EVE, Infinity Battlescape, Star

00:41:55.139 --> 00:41:57.880
Citizen, all these. That's a pretty cool table.

00:41:58.219 --> 00:42:01.599
It is made by them, so maybe a little bit of

00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.679
bias. All right, let's go. Where did it go? Where's

00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.219
the value matrix? There. Here's the value matrix.

00:42:10.900 --> 00:42:13.860
It kind of gives you a flowchart. I love flowcharts.

00:42:13.860 --> 00:42:16.199
They're very helpful. But this flowchart gives

00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.789
you what can you expect. As a token holder, how

00:42:20.789 --> 00:42:23.170
does the flow of information, how does value,

00:42:23.409 --> 00:42:27.110
how is it created? And if you are a stakeholder

00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:29.369
in the company, I think this means, like a stakeholder

00:42:29.369 --> 00:42:33.210
equity in Automata, then this is what it means.

00:42:33.409 --> 00:42:35.469
Because you've got like asset sales and all that.

00:42:35.530 --> 00:42:39.809
I think that's what it means. Equity in the Automata

00:42:39.809 --> 00:42:42.409
Corporation. And then if you're a gamer, how

00:42:42.409 --> 00:42:44.550
do you monetize? How do you own your assets?

00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:48.380
What does all that entertainment game like? gameplay

00:42:48.380 --> 00:42:52.219
loop look like this is very very cool this tells

00:42:52.219 --> 00:42:56.019
me that the team knows what they're up to i mean

00:42:56.019 --> 00:43:00.860
this white paper alone is 42 pages but like this

00:43:00.860 --> 00:43:04.340
is cool this is very very cool i paid most attention

00:43:04.340 --> 00:43:10.940
to and the economics the atlas polis i spent

00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:17.070
a lot of time reading about the uh The next thing

00:43:17.070 --> 00:43:19.309
here that we're about to go over, a sustainable

00:43:19.309 --> 00:43:21.869
governance framework. I spent a lot of time in

00:43:21.869 --> 00:43:25.630
here. All right, so it's going to download, open

00:43:25.630 --> 00:43:33.010
it. All right, so the Star Atlas. A sustainable

00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:34.849
governance framework. This is kind of like a

00:43:34.849 --> 00:43:40.369
vision statement. It is 30 pages and it's full

00:43:40.369 --> 00:43:43.070
of excellent information. Like if you are serious

00:43:43.070 --> 00:43:45.869
about investing. This is something you want to

00:43:45.869 --> 00:43:48.530
pay attention to. They go through, they have

00:43:48.530 --> 00:43:50.889
an exec sum, importance of decentralization,

00:43:51.070 --> 00:43:53.630
so they kind of go over their philosophical approach.

00:43:55.429 --> 00:44:00.750
Then they get into the state of Star Atlas. And

00:44:00.750 --> 00:44:03.210
then they get into the governance framework itself,

00:44:03.449 --> 00:44:06.489
the constitution, the council, proposal process,

00:44:06.889 --> 00:44:11.130
how they're going to govern themselves. Hold

00:44:11.130 --> 00:44:15.119
on a second. Where is my... Ooh. Maybe it's under

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.420
economics. Yes, it is. It was in economics. Okay.

00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:23.300
So this is full of good information about investment

00:44:23.300 --> 00:44:25.679
things. So if you're a business person or you're

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.460
an investment person, take a look at this document.

00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.219
It's got, I mean, it's so well made. It is so,

00:44:31.219 --> 00:44:35.460
so well made. I really enjoyed it. And it's not

00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:37.420
like it's full of fluff either. I don't know

00:44:37.420 --> 00:44:39.599
if they use chat GPT to write this. I don't think

00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.360
so. It is pretty precise and to the point. It

00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.119
was worth the read for me, at least. A lot of

00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.139
cool stuff about DAO language that I would use

00:44:49.139 --> 00:44:52.840
elsewhere as well. All right, and then the last

00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:56.000
thing was the economics paper. This is the one

00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:01.119
I read up and down and backwards because it had

00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.300
a lot of the data I needed to pull. I'm a huge

00:45:04.300 --> 00:45:06.699
data nerd. People, sorry, I just don't know that

00:45:06.699 --> 00:45:10.440
yet, but for the sandbox, I have put together

00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:16.289
a lot of... data nerd stuff let's call it such

00:45:16.289 --> 00:45:18.369
i used to do the checkbook and the scoreboard

00:45:18.369 --> 00:45:25.150
and and have kind of like these things here i

00:45:25.150 --> 00:45:27.710
haven't updated in a little bit but you know

00:45:27.710 --> 00:45:31.150
score bars to keep track of all of the sips and

00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:34.690
a checkbook i know someone in star atlas mentioned

00:45:34.690 --> 00:45:37.320
that just the other day but like an accounting

00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.340
sheet of the categories and how much they were

00:45:40.340 --> 00:45:42.760
spending or underspending. I created that one.

00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:47.559
Just keep track of it. So the economics paper

00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.780
had some very interesting things. Resource management,

00:45:52.820 --> 00:45:56.500
which is all mostly in -game stuff. Tokenomics,

00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.559
cool. I like tokenomics, it's great. But what

00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.099
really got me was... Where is it? It must be

00:46:04.099 --> 00:46:09.539
turned around here. Is it this one? Not the white

00:46:09.539 --> 00:46:13.599
paper, is it? Oh, there it is. Yeah, so it is

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:20.280
in the tokenomics. So this 3 .2, page 14. When

00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:25.619
I wanted to figure out, you know, was it a good

00:46:25.619 --> 00:46:28.380
investment and learning what is the long -term

00:46:28.380 --> 00:46:34.659
value for these things, I went here. They have

00:46:34.659 --> 00:46:37.769
excellent descriptions. And I could trace this

00:46:37.769 --> 00:46:41.170
into the data itself. So on their governor's

00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:44.530
website, the lockers here. So very, very cool

00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:46.849
stuff. I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I

00:46:46.849 --> 00:46:49.010
think I'll do a podcast episode just by itself

00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:54.289
for that. Okay, let's get back on track because

00:46:54.289 --> 00:46:56.730
I took a little bit longer there than I wanted

00:46:56.730 --> 00:47:01.769
to, but ultimately it was good. It was good to

00:47:01.769 --> 00:47:05.679
talk about it. We're here. of the Star Atlas

00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.280
Foundation. Now, the foundation is the legal

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.380
entity that underpins everything that they do.

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.380
I've been investigating foundation companies

00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:19.360
because of their importance and how DAOs are

00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.920
run if you are a Grand Canyon Islands foundation

00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.900
company. There are a lot of things happening

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:28.079
underneath the surface that I wanted to excavate.

00:47:28.139 --> 00:47:31.099
I wanted to explore. It's my personality type.

00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.150
I like that stuff. And I found... a ton of information

00:47:36.150 --> 00:47:38.710
a lot of things i didn't expect whenever that

00:47:38.710 --> 00:47:42.670
a lot when we talked about arena of cayman islands

00:47:42.670 --> 00:47:49.230
law and also even 60 when we read through sandbox

00:47:49.230 --> 00:47:53.010
style documents but we learned a lot learned

00:47:53.010 --> 00:48:00.170
a lot about cayman islands so as i started exploring

00:48:00.170 --> 00:48:02.429
foundation companies i learned a lot of other

00:48:02.429 --> 00:48:06.000
dials Also, our foundation companies, such as

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.780
ApeCoinDAO and StarHotListDAO, as well as SandboxDAO.

00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.940
So, where do I go to find DAO documents? The

00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:17.059
important DAO documents that are registered with

00:48:17.059 --> 00:48:19.920
the Grand Cayman Islands. It actually wasn't

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.420
in the place I thought. For all of the other

00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:26.400
things that are happening, where the other documents

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:31.619
are pretty easily to find, if you go to Govern.

00:48:32.489 --> 00:48:36.610
If you go to govern over here, you go to more,

00:48:36.650 --> 00:48:39.030
like I showed you earlier, there's economics

00:48:39.030 --> 00:48:41.769
paper, there's a white paper. If you go to their

00:48:41.769 --> 00:48:48.630
website, this website, then it's right there

00:48:48.630 --> 00:48:53.989
on the left. I mean, you go there. You can find

00:48:53.989 --> 00:48:56.510
these documents everywhere. But where do you

00:48:56.510 --> 00:49:00.610
find the corporate documents that are required

00:49:00.610 --> 00:49:04.619
to be filed? or a foundation company in the Grand

00:49:04.619 --> 00:49:07.440
Cayman Islands. As we learned, because of the

00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.139
acts and regulations of a foundation company,

00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:14.320
there are certain legal documents you have to

00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.039
file, and then there's a corporate structure,

00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.440
there's a director, there's officers, there's

00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:20.659
supervisors, secretaries, all sorts of stuff

00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:24.320
that you need to run a company, but for a DAO.

00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.300
And so where are those documents? Turns out,

00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.199
those documents are in one of two places. And

00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.059
I found it here first, in their Discord. If you

00:49:36.059 --> 00:49:39.780
go to their DAO chat in Star Atlas Discord, go

00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:43.239
to one of the pinned tweets, and Dan Park, if

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:44.980
you remember the name earlier, he is the general

00:49:44.980 --> 00:49:50.340
counsel for Star Atlas Atoma. Atomata. I keep

00:49:50.340 --> 00:49:54.659
saying that wrong. Atomata. Atomata. He posted

00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:57.880
the Memorandum of Association and the Articles

00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.090
of Association. which were pretty much the incorporating

00:50:00.090 --> 00:50:03.489
documents for Star Atlas Foundation. It's there

00:50:03.489 --> 00:50:08.130
in Discord. What I didn't know is that the awesome

00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:10.989
folks of Star Atlas Council First Generation,

00:50:11.610 --> 00:50:20.389
Funcracker, Jerome Carlos, JP, King Brian, Bodhi,

00:50:20.510 --> 00:50:27.389
they all created a Git book. And in that Git

00:50:27.389 --> 00:50:32.269
book, They put the knowledge base of Star Atlas.

00:50:34.409 --> 00:50:37.349
And here, if you scroll down to under Foundation,

00:50:37.670 --> 00:50:41.309
scroll down the bottom, you'll see, there it

00:50:41.309 --> 00:50:45.969
is. Also there. What I learned about this document

00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:48.429
is that it's actually two -in -one. It is combined

00:50:48.429 --> 00:50:51.750
memorandum and articles. So it's only 16 pages,

00:50:51.929 --> 00:50:53.969
so it's not going to take that long to get through

00:50:53.969 --> 00:50:57.769
it. But in the Git book, you can also find it

00:50:57.769 --> 00:51:00.139
there. These documents are very important for

00:51:00.139 --> 00:51:03.579
any foundation company and how they're run, all

00:51:03.579 --> 00:51:07.480
of that. So we are going to start into that.

00:51:07.699 --> 00:51:14.280
Let's open it up. And here we are. We're going

00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.719
to read through this just like we did Sandbox.

00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:21.480
And like I said, 16 pages. It's simple compared

00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.880
to Sandbox style, which is surprising because

00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.539
Sandbox style is... Like an iceberg. You think

00:51:28.539 --> 00:51:30.820
you know, understand everything, but it's part

00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:35.559
of Animoca Brands. It's one of the top metaverses

00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:39.480
around. Animoca Brands is the largest, I'm pretty

00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.179
sure it's the largest Web3 company in the world

00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:46.579
with over 400 subsidiaries. It is crazy huge,

00:51:46.659 --> 00:51:49.099
of which Sandbox is one of them. I went over

00:51:49.099 --> 00:51:55.599
all of that in Sandow 34 when we went over the

00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.900
relationship map. And we kind of traced the lineage

00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:02.159
of the Sandbox company, where it's headquartered

00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:06.159
in Malta, owned by Sandbox Gaming Limited. That's

00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.019
when we say Sandbox Game Company. That's what

00:52:08.019 --> 00:52:09.780
we're talking about. Whereas the Sandbox Game

00:52:09.780 --> 00:52:13.760
is just the game. And then that is owned by Bacasable

00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.519
Global Limited, which Bacasable in French means

00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.639
sandbox. Did not know that. That's owned by Animoca

00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:25.849
Brands and thus the Circle of Life. And Star

00:52:25.849 --> 00:52:29.050
Atlas, it's much more straightforward. Star Atlas

00:52:29.050 --> 00:52:33.329
is owned by Automata, which is what we showed

00:52:33.329 --> 00:52:41.030
earlier. It's here. No, not there. There, there.

00:52:41.210 --> 00:52:44.869
No, no, get closer. There we go. And Automata.

00:52:46.570 --> 00:52:51.050
Oh man, not you again. Come on, come on. There

00:52:51.050 --> 00:52:54.369
we go. So it's owned by Automata, which the CEO,

00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:01.420
is Michael Wagner and, you know, Automata. Here

00:53:01.420 --> 00:53:04.039
it is. So Automata owns the game Star Atlas.

00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.380
Star Atlas Foundation, separate legal entity,

00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:10.820
is in the Grand Cayman Islands. That's it. There's

00:53:10.820 --> 00:53:13.599
no, like, subsidiary tree that I could find that

00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.460
I needed to talk about. If there is, then I missed

00:53:16.460 --> 00:53:17.980
it and I'll have to make another episode about

00:53:17.980 --> 00:53:23.480
it. But here we are talking about Star Atlas

00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:29.420
Foundation. the legal entity behind the Star

00:53:29.420 --> 00:53:32.059
Atlas DAO. All right, so here we go. Up at the

00:53:32.059 --> 00:53:35.239
top right, we see what we normally see, the stamp,

00:53:35.380 --> 00:53:39.380
Exempted Foundation Company registered on September

00:53:39.380 --> 00:53:43.659
2022. So this company has been around, this foundation

00:53:43.659 --> 00:53:45.239
company has been around for quite a long time.

00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:48.619
That's very surprising to see. Why the separation?

00:53:48.940 --> 00:53:50.840
In fact, that's my first question. So for all

00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:55.789
you who are Star Atlasians, And you don't know

00:53:55.789 --> 00:53:57.869
how I do things. I screen share a lot. So you

00:53:57.869 --> 00:54:00.630
see like things all over the place and I take

00:54:00.630 --> 00:54:05.429
notes in real time. So I already had one question,

00:54:05.510 --> 00:54:08.510
which why doesn't it have a founder? We'll get

00:54:08.510 --> 00:54:11.210
into what that means later on. Actually, I already

00:54:11.210 --> 00:54:14.849
did my TLDR. So this page right here, a TLDR

00:54:14.849 --> 00:54:19.190
is in the TLDR. A founder is kind of like a unique

00:54:19.190 --> 00:54:22.670
role that can kind of be granted superpowers,

00:54:22.889 --> 00:54:26.489
superhuman powers. And in normal corporations,

00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:29.449
you have shareholders, you have CEOs, directors,

00:54:29.630 --> 00:54:32.750
presidents, all that. And the directors have

00:54:32.750 --> 00:54:35.250
a fiduciary, the shareholders, excuse me, the

00:54:35.250 --> 00:54:38.309
CEOs have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder

00:54:38.309 --> 00:54:40.449
value. The shareholders are people who have that

00:54:40.449 --> 00:54:43.210
units of ownership, right? So that share capital

00:54:43.210 --> 00:54:48.210
right here. But within the foundation company,

00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:52.969
there are no share capital. There are no units

00:54:52.969 --> 00:54:55.659
of ownership. So who then is your shareholder?

00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.559
Well, one of them could be the founder. One of

00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.960
them could be the beneficiaries. There are a

00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.880
lot of different ways you can shape a foundation

00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:10.400
company. And in sandbox, we have a founder who

00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.320
has like superpowers. And that founder is almost

00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.199
like the first person who started the DAO to

00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.179
keep it on track. And that founder is not beholden

00:55:20.179 --> 00:55:22.800
to shareholders. So they kind of have a broad...

00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:27.739
broad scope of abilities that is separate and

00:55:27.739 --> 00:55:30.659
distinct from the director who has control of

00:55:30.659 --> 00:55:33.360
the company. They have the responsibility to

00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.380
run the company day to day. But the founder's

00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:38.219
kind of like your ace in the hole. And the person

00:55:38.219 --> 00:55:42.179
who, you know, keeps the foundation company on

00:55:42.179 --> 00:55:45.440
track if things go haywire. And it's normally,

00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.900
you know, like the first person, the founder

00:55:47.900 --> 00:55:53.429
of company. I think it's Seb. or Arthur, the

00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:55.750
dude, who are co -founders of the Sandbox Game

00:55:55.750 --> 00:55:58.550
Company, I don't know for sure because it doesn't

00:55:58.550 --> 00:56:02.449
say. But over here in Star Atlas, though, so

00:56:02.449 --> 00:56:05.690
much simpler. So much simpler. It's probably

00:56:05.690 --> 00:56:10.030
why both documents are 16 pages, whereas in Sandbox,

00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:15.289
it's many more than that. Six hours worth. So,

00:56:15.369 --> 00:56:19.619
we see the seal. And when we do the entity search

00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:25.099
later on, you'll see what that means. Let's start

00:56:25.099 --> 00:56:28.000
reading. The Companies Act, which we know is

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.639
the governing body of law for the Grand Cayman

00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.940
Islands. And the Foundation Companies Act, also

00:56:34.940 --> 00:56:38.079
a very important body of law. The Memorandum

00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.260
of Association of Star Atlas Foundation. Remember

00:56:41.260 --> 00:56:44.380
in the TLDR? I'll show down here in the bottom

00:56:44.380 --> 00:56:48.539
left. Whereas bottom center of my screen, the

00:56:48.539 --> 00:56:59.480
TLDR, remember that the memo, the memo of association

00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.820
creates the foundation company. Okay? Whereas

00:57:03.820 --> 00:57:06.320
the articles, which is also embedded in the 16

00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:08.800
-page document, describes how it will operate,

00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:13.019
kind of like the rules. And you have optional

00:57:13.019 --> 00:57:16.690
bylaws to further established rules. But I didn't

00:57:16.690 --> 00:57:20.489
see any bylaws for a foundation, sorry, this

00:57:20.489 --> 00:57:25.710
foundation. A foundation company, which we learned

00:57:25.710 --> 00:57:29.030
was a foundation company. It is a type of company

00:57:29.030 --> 00:57:34.269
within the Grand Cayman Islands. And limited

00:57:34.269 --> 00:57:37.849
by guarantee. Limited by guarantee, we learned

00:57:37.849 --> 00:57:41.869
in Sandow 56, means that the members of the foundation

00:57:41.869 --> 00:57:45.210
company only lose what they put into the company.

00:57:45.469 --> 00:57:47.289
And normally that's like, I don't know, you'll

00:57:47.289 --> 00:57:51.869
put up $10 ,000 or you'll give them a car or

00:57:51.869 --> 00:57:57.110
a building or assets or money. That is what they're

00:57:57.110 --> 00:58:00.969
limited to. And in this document, I expect to

00:58:00.969 --> 00:58:05.369
see what that limit is. What did the founders

00:58:05.369 --> 00:58:10.250
or the people who created this, probably the

00:58:10.250 --> 00:58:12.789
subscriber, And the director and the members,

00:58:12.869 --> 00:58:15.949
what do they guarantee to give the company? All

00:58:15.949 --> 00:58:18.570
right. And then without any share capital. And

00:58:18.570 --> 00:58:20.750
again, as we talked about already, it means no

00:58:20.750 --> 00:58:24.250
shares. Shares can be thought of as units of

00:58:24.250 --> 00:58:27.809
ownership in a company. And most companies have

00:58:27.809 --> 00:58:33.909
to maximize shareholder value. And the CEOs,

00:58:34.030 --> 00:58:35.610
presidents all have fiduciary responsibility

00:58:35.610 --> 00:58:39.780
to the shareholder. We learned with our friends

00:58:39.780 --> 00:58:47.139
over in Walker's Global, Melissa and Carolyn

00:58:47.139 --> 00:58:52.000
from Walker's Global, practicing lawyers in the

00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:57.000
foundation and in the... I'm tripping all over

00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:03.699
myself right now. Practicing lawyers at Cayman

00:59:03.699 --> 00:59:09.579
Islands that... There are no shareholders in

00:59:09.579 --> 00:59:13.300
a foundation company, but the directors still

00:59:13.300 --> 00:59:16.039
have a fiduciary responsibility to the company.

00:59:16.260 --> 00:59:18.260
Who do they have a fiduciary responsibility to?

00:59:18.900 --> 00:59:20.760
I'm not quite sure. That's what I want to get

00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.460
the lawyers back on. I think they have a fiduciary

00:59:23.460 --> 00:59:26.099
responsibility to the objects of a foundation

00:59:26.099 --> 00:59:30.019
company or its beneficiaries. I don't know. I

00:59:30.019 --> 00:59:32.199
need to ask them that question when they come

00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.320
back, if I can get them back on. Or maybe I'll

00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.460
just ask Dan. Maybe Dan knows. Star Atlas. I've

00:59:40.460 --> 00:59:46.019
never seen the legal counsel so involved in a

00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:48.639
community before, in a gaming community. I think

00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:49.940
it's one of the first times I've ever seen that

00:59:49.940 --> 00:59:52.760
happen. So that's why I listed out Dan Park,

00:59:52.940 --> 01:00:01.760
because he's so involved, transparent. It's really

01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.380
cool. Really cool to see. So is the CEO, Michael

01:00:04.380 --> 01:00:09.610
Wagner. So let's make that part of it. Who does

01:00:09.610 --> 01:00:22.409
the fiduciary? Who does the director have a fiduciary

01:00:22.409 --> 01:00:26.590
to? That's the wrong way to word that. Who is

01:00:26.590 --> 01:00:34.210
the director a fiduciary of? There we go. Is

01:00:34.210 --> 01:00:38.269
it the objects of Foundation Company? Members?

01:00:39.909 --> 01:00:44.070
Beneficiaries? Alright, so again, we're just

01:00:44.070 --> 01:00:47.929
writing down questions as we go along. Alright?

01:00:49.570 --> 01:00:54.489
So that's a question I did not think to ask until

01:00:54.489 --> 01:00:58.769
now. And why does Star Atlas not have a founder?

01:00:58.989 --> 01:01:01.889
We'll get into that. Y 'all don't have a founder,

01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:06.849
Star Atlas people. Sandbox does. All right, and

01:01:06.849 --> 01:01:10.489
then here we go. Walkers. Walkers Global. I did

01:01:10.489 --> 01:01:14.230
not know Walkers Global represented Star Atlas

01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:19.809
or Ape Coindow until I talked to them. So give

01:01:19.809 --> 01:01:24.489
that one a listen. That was free advice. It wasn't

01:01:24.489 --> 01:01:29.230
legal advice, but that was free knowledge. Right?

01:01:29.889 --> 01:01:33.059
Sandow59, part three of Foundation Company. A

01:01:33.059 --> 01:01:35.780
brief from Cayman Island lawyers. Not legal advice.

01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:40.699
It was, however, great knowledge and education.

01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.679
Okay, so Walker's Global. We already know who

01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.480
they are. And I can already tell, so they're

01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.519
the law firm, looks like legal counsel, to help

01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:57.219
provide some management services or company services

01:01:57.219 --> 01:02:03.789
to start this foundation back in 2022. All right.

01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:06.650
It's already starting to piece some things together.

01:02:09.329 --> 01:02:12.429
All right. And before I get into section one

01:02:12.429 --> 01:02:16.110
here, I'm going to take a quick break. I've already

01:02:16.110 --> 01:02:19.369
been at this for an hour. Oh, darn it. I'm going

01:02:19.369 --> 01:02:21.010
to need to step on it because I don't want to

01:02:21.010 --> 01:02:25.309
end up doing six hours again. Hey, Siggy. Good

01:02:25.309 --> 01:02:27.789
to see you in chat. Hey, Pepe. Good to see you.

01:02:30.250 --> 01:02:36.820
Siggy Sat. Yuma. Samsor, Emperor, thank you all

01:02:36.820 --> 01:02:42.059
for sticking with me. Really good to see you

01:02:42.059 --> 01:02:47.679
all. All right. Where do we leave off? We just

01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:54.320
started. Oh, Lord. Okay. So we were just getting

01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.300
into Star Atlas Foundation documents. And again,

01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.639
these are extremely important documents for the

01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.400
running of... Star Atlas Foundation. If you are

01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:05.940
into DAO governance, you want to know these documents.

01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.480
Interestingly enough, though, for Star Atlas,

01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.719
and this is the first time I've seen this, so

01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:15.199
huge kudos to Star Atlas, by the way, they don't

01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:18.480
just have founding documents, the articles and

01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:26.219
memos. They have a whole PDF framework. Their

01:03:26.219 --> 01:03:29.360
white paper talks about their DAO. So does Sandbox.

01:03:29.769 --> 01:03:32.510
The Sandbox's white paper also talks about the

01:03:32.510 --> 01:03:36.050
DAO, but not near the degree that Star Atlas

01:03:36.050 --> 01:03:41.190
does. It has its own sections in the white paper.

01:03:42.769 --> 01:03:46.349
And then the Sustainable Governance Framework

01:03:46.349 --> 01:03:48.670
also talks a lot about the DAO. So does the economics

01:03:48.670 --> 01:03:51.829
paper. All of these things are propping up as

01:03:51.829 --> 01:03:54.329
pillars. I feel like I want to do another episode

01:03:54.329 --> 01:03:57.309
just on these documents because I feel like there's

01:03:57.309 --> 01:04:01.099
a flowchart here. Really could be beneficial.

01:04:01.099 --> 01:04:06.579
Similar. Very similar to my. My ecosystem one.

01:04:06.739 --> 01:04:10.599
My sandbox ecosystem. I love doing ecosystem

01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:16.420
websites. Episodes. So here I have. In Sandal

01:04:16.420 --> 01:04:20.579
31. I have an introduction. To the sandbox ecosystem.

01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:31.219
And. I go through. You know how here on the,

01:04:31.380 --> 01:04:38.019
look right down there. See how ecosystem, in

01:04:38.019 --> 01:04:39.519
the very, very beginning, I talked about the

01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:41.400
people, the product, and the purpose, and all

01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.880
that? That's this episode right here. This one.

01:04:46.380 --> 01:04:49.159
That's this episode right here. And I go through

01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:53.639
all of them in depth. I kind of pull apart the

01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:57.840
whole ecosystem, and I talk about how each facet

01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:02.889
of the ecosystem, interacts with each other.

01:05:03.829 --> 01:05:08.389
And then we examined what were the leaders saying,

01:05:08.690 --> 01:05:11.070
the different podcast episodes where they're

01:05:11.070 --> 01:05:13.230
talking. These are the founders on podcasts and

01:05:13.230 --> 01:05:17.170
stuff. We go through that a lot. And it's awesome.

01:05:17.269 --> 01:05:20.849
It was great. Here's a few seconds of it. Hi.

01:05:22.090 --> 01:05:25.949
Today, why are we here? Today we're going to

01:05:25.949 --> 01:05:29.889
be talking about what is the sandbox and a summary

01:05:29.889 --> 01:05:33.050
of it. Just my perspective. So what is a sandbox?

01:05:33.329 --> 01:05:36.090
It basically revolves around three segments,

01:05:36.210 --> 01:05:39.050
three groups of things that are happening all

01:05:39.050 --> 01:05:43.969
at once. Three activities. The product, the people,

01:05:44.110 --> 01:05:52.210
and the purpose. So, that was episode 31. Star

01:05:52.210 --> 01:05:55.130
Atlas goes much deeper than I originally thought.

01:05:55.829 --> 01:05:58.590
I may want to do a whole ecosystem on Star Atlas

01:05:58.590 --> 01:06:03.639
in the future. I love doing that stuff. It's

01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:09.099
so much fun. But we're here. Keep getting distracted.

01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.880
My bad. Memo of association. Let's go back to

01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:18.320
it. So. Section one. The name of the foundation

01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.219
company is Star Atlas Foundation. The foundation

01:06:21.219 --> 01:06:25.559
company. Cool. Easy enough. Section two. The

01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:27.500
registered office of the foundation company.

01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.599
will be situated at the offices of walkers corporate

01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.940
limited and then there is the address let's take

01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:35.380
a look at that address because i want to know

01:06:35.380 --> 01:06:39.059
where they are compared to everybody else all

01:06:39.059 --> 01:06:43.280
right so we're going to go to maps .google very

01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:47.260
sweet and then let's put in the address that

01:06:47.260 --> 01:06:54.719
we just saw and that's the address right there

01:06:56.750 --> 01:06:59.750
All right, where are we? Oh, okay, we're right

01:06:59.750 --> 01:07:02.650
down. So see this South Church Street right here?

01:07:03.929 --> 01:07:05.730
Maybe it'd be better if I do it like this. There

01:07:05.730 --> 01:07:08.349
we go. See this South Church Street? Okay, this

01:07:08.349 --> 01:07:10.570
is the business district that I was talking about

01:07:10.570 --> 01:07:17.710
earlier in one of the recap. It was this slide

01:07:17.710 --> 01:07:21.949
right here. See this slide? This one where we

01:07:21.949 --> 01:07:25.309
thought that right there are these three buildings.

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:31.579
Right here. See? So that's where the sandbox

01:07:31.579 --> 01:07:34.800
tower is. Right over here. And Walker's Global

01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.940
is just of, like, what? Looks like a 10 -minute

01:07:37.940 --> 01:07:42.199
drive. And there's Walker's Global. That building

01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.019
right there. So that's cool. So that's where

01:07:45.019 --> 01:07:49.380
you all are. Sorry, Atlas people. That's where

01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:51.760
your office is in the foundation company. And

01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:57.210
again, this is in Georgetown. of Grand Cayman

01:07:57.210 --> 01:07:59.349
Islands. I didn't realize this, but apparently

01:07:59.349 --> 01:08:03.150
there are five different islands, as our lawyers

01:08:03.150 --> 01:08:06.110
from practicing within the Grand Cayman Islands

01:08:06.110 --> 01:08:07.809
told us. The Grand Cayman Islands is just the

01:08:07.809 --> 01:08:09.909
biggest one. Alright, and there's Grand Cayman

01:08:09.909 --> 01:08:12.329
Islands. Zoom out. It's next to Jamaica, Cuba,

01:08:12.670 --> 01:08:16.369
Honduras, Nicaragua, and there you go. Tiny little

01:08:16.369 --> 01:08:24.119
island right in there. Cool. Alright. At the

01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:26.819
offices of its secretary, for the time being,

01:08:27.020 --> 01:08:29.359
I guess that means they might change it later

01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:33.140
on. Section 3. The foundation company's initial

01:08:33.140 --> 01:08:35.779
secretary shall be Walker's Corporate Limited

01:08:35.779 --> 01:08:38.880
or such other qualified person as defined in

01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:40.420
the Foundation Companies Act. Which basically

01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:44.939
means anyone who is licensed. And the licensing

01:08:44.939 --> 01:08:51.340
of the secretary is done by the CEMA, the Cayman

01:08:51.340 --> 01:08:54.770
Islands Monetary Authority. They license secretaries,

01:08:54.789 --> 01:08:57.109
and secretaries have to go through this long

01:08:57.109 --> 01:09:02.369
process of getting a license, and foundation

01:09:02.369 --> 01:09:04.729
companies must have a licensed secretary to operate

01:09:04.729 --> 01:09:11.689
within the regulations. So that is very, very

01:09:11.689 --> 01:09:17.090
important. Siggy said, fun fact, in the early

01:09:17.090 --> 01:09:20.510
days of Star Atlas, there was a team about...

01:09:22.210 --> 01:09:26.930
Five economists helping build the game, tokenomics,

01:09:27.029 --> 01:09:30.109
econ documents along with Wagner. Now there's

01:09:30.109 --> 01:09:32.369
currently Chris above and Gareth. Okay, cool.

01:09:32.609 --> 01:09:38.510
Thanks, Siggy. All right. We just did section

01:09:38.510 --> 01:09:42.989
three. Section four, the foundation company is

01:09:42.989 --> 01:09:44.810
a company within the mean of the Companies Act

01:09:44.810 --> 01:09:49.649
and a foundation company within the mean of Foundation

01:09:49.649 --> 01:09:53.529
Companies Act 2017. And we went over that with

01:09:53.529 --> 01:09:57.329
our regulation stack. Here, under our recap,

01:09:57.569 --> 01:10:01.550
go to Sandow56 for a deep dive into those documents.

01:10:01.670 --> 01:10:04.869
That one took three hours because it was hundreds

01:10:04.869 --> 01:10:09.750
of pages long, and I summarized them. So, three

01:10:09.750 --> 01:10:12.810
-hour summary of a couple, few hundred pages

01:10:12.810 --> 01:10:18.170
worth of documents. It was very, very complex,

01:10:18.369 --> 01:10:23.180
but it took me months to figure out. So, they,

01:10:23.619 --> 01:10:28.600
Star Atlas, is putting in their foundation companies...

01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:31.920
Star Atlas Foundation is putting in their foundation

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.199
documents. These are the laws that they're recognizing.

01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:40.380
So, pretty standard so far. And here we go. Section

01:10:40.380 --> 01:10:43.140
5. The objects for which the foundation company

01:10:43.140 --> 01:10:48.569
is established are... Section A. To perform services

01:10:48.569 --> 01:10:50.890
to implement, improve, and sustain aspects of

01:10:50.890 --> 01:10:53.409
the Star Atlas Metaverse and ecosystem. Specifically,

01:10:53.670 --> 01:10:55.930
without limitation, the Foundation is empowered

01:10:55.930 --> 01:10:59.310
to Section I. Support and finance appropriate

01:10:59.310 --> 01:11:01.229
research and development activities and projects.

01:11:01.449 --> 01:11:05.390
Section 2. Promote and educate the public on

01:11:05.390 --> 01:11:07.409
the Star Atlas Metaverse and ecosystem. Section

01:11:07.409 --> 01:11:09.630
3. Promote the usage, growth, and contribution

01:11:09.630 --> 01:11:12.710
to the Star Atlas Metaverse and ecosystem. Section

01:11:12.710 --> 01:11:16.489
4. Issue, receive, spend, and hold digital assets.

01:11:17.329 --> 01:11:20.449
Section 5. Engage with various parts of businesses,

01:11:20.729 --> 01:11:23.329
partners, banks, regulators, authorities, and

01:11:23.329 --> 01:11:27.010
other partners. Interesting. I have a question

01:11:27.010 --> 01:11:31.970
now. They mentioned the term digital assets and

01:11:31.970 --> 01:11:35.510
a part of this regulation stack here. One of

01:11:35.510 --> 01:11:38.130
the questions I had for a sandbox style was,

01:11:38.250 --> 01:11:40.789
does the Virtual Asset Service Provider Act apply?

01:11:41.369 --> 01:11:44.109
And one of the things that it asked was, does

01:11:44.109 --> 01:11:49.270
it hold digital assets? So does this mean that

01:11:49.270 --> 01:11:54.529
SAR Atlas, the VASP Act, is now applicable? Virtual

01:11:54.529 --> 01:11:57.470
Asset Service Provider Act? So let's ask that

01:11:57.470 --> 01:12:09.569
as our question. So this is section 5A. Star

01:12:09.569 --> 01:12:18.270
Atlas does the vast act apply to Star Atlas Foundation.

01:12:18.569 --> 01:12:25.289
And we're going to reference section five. Okay.

01:12:25.729 --> 01:12:29.470
Because that one's talking about old digital

01:12:29.470 --> 01:12:35.590
assets. And so that's someone right there. And

01:12:37.449 --> 01:12:43.029
All right, let's keep going. And five, the objects

01:12:43.029 --> 01:12:45.250
for which the foundation company is established

01:12:45.250 --> 01:12:48.569
are, and we're now at section B, to do all such

01:12:48.569 --> 01:12:51.090
things as in the opinion of the directors are

01:12:51.090 --> 01:12:53.649
or may be incidental or conducive to the above

01:12:53.649 --> 01:12:56.789
objects or any of them. Basically means whatever

01:12:56.789 --> 01:12:58.810
they want. That's basically what that means.

01:12:58.930 --> 01:13:00.949
I had already kind of said that in section A,

01:13:01.069 --> 01:13:03.590
where it says specifically without limitation.

01:13:06.890 --> 01:13:09.010
Kind of already giving yourself free reign just

01:13:09.010 --> 01:13:13.810
by saying that. But also in Section B, you know,

01:13:13.869 --> 01:13:17.829
to do anything, the opinion of the directors

01:13:17.829 --> 01:13:22.029
might be incidental. Okay, that's Section 5.

01:13:22.289 --> 01:13:25.069
And Section 5, that was very short. Sandboxes

01:13:25.069 --> 01:13:26.989
was humongously long. I think there was like

01:13:26.989 --> 01:13:30.970
20 items on the objects. And Star Atlas took

01:13:30.970 --> 01:13:33.149
the approach of having a much shorter list. The

01:13:33.149 --> 01:13:35.779
objects is very, very important. This is why

01:13:35.779 --> 01:13:38.579
your company, your foundation company, is here

01:13:38.579 --> 01:13:42.260
in existence. That's why I put in question two,

01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:45.380
who is the director or fiduciary of the objects?

01:13:45.939 --> 01:13:49.800
Okay, so the objects we just learned, reference

01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:56.819
section five, that's the objects. The objects,

01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:00.300
it looks like they're basically saying research,

01:14:00.699 --> 01:14:06.630
educate, promote. issue receive spend and engage

01:14:06.630 --> 01:14:09.869
so some pretty just look at the verbs that's

01:14:09.869 --> 01:14:11.689
how you can tell what what they're really after

01:14:11.689 --> 01:14:16.050
here and then do whatever else they'd like to

01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:19.130
do which is cool you know foundation companies

01:14:19.130 --> 01:14:21.369
are meant to be very flexible it's kind of like

01:14:21.369 --> 01:14:26.350
a trust meets an llc and they they kind of all

01:14:26.350 --> 01:14:31.489
trusts are very flexible um and so they're taxed

01:14:31.489 --> 01:14:34.560
differently but then Never mind. Let's just keep

01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.119
going. And then reference section five. Good.

01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.979
There. So that was our, that was why I asked,

01:14:43.060 --> 01:14:45.819
what is the director fiduciary of? Is it the

01:14:45.819 --> 01:14:49.239
objects? Oh, oh, I forgot. Let's start highlighting

01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:53.979
keywords. My bad. I highlight keywords to keep

01:14:53.979 --> 01:14:59.960
track of things in my brain. It helps me. It

01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:03.920
helps me a lot. All right, so founder is a keyword.

01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:10.020
Director is a keyword. Fiduciary is not. Foundation

01:15:10.020 --> 01:15:14.319
company is. Objects is. Members is. So we know

01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:15.960
that this question is, you know, pretty important

01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.420
because it affects a lot of people. All right,

01:15:19.420 --> 01:15:23.699
and does the VASP act? So the VASP is also key

01:15:23.699 --> 01:15:30.479
phrase. And there we go. So why does it start?

01:15:30.500 --> 01:15:32.770
Okay, we haven't gotten there yet. Who is the

01:15:32.770 --> 01:15:37.170
director a fiduciary of? We know who the director

01:15:37.170 --> 01:15:40.770
is. That was actually very easy to find. We know

01:15:40.770 --> 01:15:43.189
who the director is, but who is that director

01:15:43.189 --> 01:15:45.270
a fiduciary of? Is it the objects of a foundation

01:15:45.270 --> 01:15:49.970
company? The members? Beneficiaries? Love to

01:15:49.970 --> 01:15:54.710
know that. Bert, I am not able to provide an

01:15:54.710 --> 01:15:59.029
update to that. I'm not... Other than what they

01:15:59.029 --> 01:16:01.109
put in the forums for Red Cross, I don't know.

01:16:01.869 --> 01:16:03.909
I'm just a community member. I don't really have

01:16:03.909 --> 01:16:09.310
that insight. Okay. Let's go back to, we just

01:16:09.310 --> 01:16:11.449
read through Section 5. Now we're on Section

01:16:11.449 --> 01:16:14.729
6. The foundation company shall have and be capable

01:16:14.729 --> 01:16:17.189
of exercising all the functions of a natural

01:16:17.189 --> 01:16:19.789
person of full capacity, irrespective of any

01:16:19.789 --> 01:16:22.369
question of corporate benefit, as provided by

01:16:22.369 --> 01:16:24.829
Section 27 .2 of the Companies Act as amended.

01:16:27.229 --> 01:16:31.229
Okay. What did... Section 27 .2 of the Companies

01:16:31.229 --> 01:16:36.949
Act say. Let's take a look. I betcha. I betcha.

01:16:38.670 --> 01:16:42.850
We have it listed here somewhere. I want you

01:16:42.850 --> 01:16:47.689
on a bet. I put 27 .2 in here somewhere. And

01:16:47.689 --> 01:16:49.750
it was the Companies Act, right? Yeah, Companies

01:16:49.750 --> 01:16:56.050
Act. So this was 20 section. This was Sandow

01:16:56.050 --> 01:17:00.319
56. It's all the research that we did. So if

01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:01.939
you watch that episode, and it's like three hours

01:17:01.939 --> 01:17:03.619
long, I think, this is what you're going to see

01:17:03.619 --> 01:17:06.939
me work through all of this. So here's page 20.

01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:14.159
Let's look for section 27. What are we looking

01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:15.680
for? We're looking for this. That's Foundation

01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.560
Company Law. Here's Companies Act. Section 190.

01:17:18.979 --> 01:17:23.060
Okay, keep going. Section 8, 24, 25, 26, there

01:17:23.060 --> 01:17:27.659
it is, 27. Section 27 was Consequences of Incorporation.

01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.340
where upon filing the memo of association, the

01:17:30.340 --> 01:17:32.560
registrar shall issue a certificate, and from

01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:34.880
the date, subscribers of the memo shall be accompanied

01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.979
by the authorized to act. Cool. All right, so

01:17:38.979 --> 01:17:43.279
what did that say? As provided by Section 27

01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:46.460
.2. Okay, then that was the ability for a corporation

01:17:46.460 --> 01:17:49.680
to have its own separate personality. Got it.

01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:53.659
Section 7. Foundation company may not carry on

01:17:53.659 --> 01:17:57.119
a business for which a license is required. under

01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.000
the acts of Cayman Islands unless duly licensed.

01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.239
I think that's referring to the fact that it's

01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:03.520
an exempted company where it has to do business

01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.960
outside of the Grand Cayman Islands unless it

01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.439
is properly licensed to do business within. The

01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.319
only exception to that rule is them contracting

01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:13.880
for services within the Grand Cayman Islands,

01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:19.319
like legal, right? So legal, Walker's Global

01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:21.760
is on the Grand Cayman Islands. The foundation

01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:24.920
company is allowed to do business with a company.

01:18:25.630 --> 01:18:28.550
in the Grand Cayman Islands if it is to carry

01:18:28.550 --> 01:18:31.489
out the objects of that foundation company. So,

01:18:31.529 --> 01:18:33.909
hence why you have a director who is a foundation

01:18:33.909 --> 01:18:38.149
company who is in Grand Cayman Islands, and legal,

01:18:38.329 --> 01:18:41.170
and a secretary. All these people are Grand Cayman

01:18:41.170 --> 01:18:43.470
Islands residents, and they own their own companies.

01:18:44.029 --> 01:18:47.789
So you can do business with them. But you can't

01:18:47.789 --> 01:18:54.909
sell food or groceries. You can't operate a grocery

01:18:54.909 --> 01:18:58.069
store. without being properly licensed. An exempted

01:18:58.069 --> 01:19:03.189
company will not meet that. Okay? Section 8 of

01:19:03.189 --> 01:19:08.550
the Memorandum of Association. Remember, the

01:19:08.550 --> 01:19:13.090
memorandum establishes the company. Section 8.

01:19:13.149 --> 01:19:15.829
Apart from authorized remuneration, and remuneration

01:19:15.829 --> 01:19:17.930
just means compensation, like payment, salary.

01:19:18.310 --> 01:19:20.609
Apart from authorized remuneration for services

01:19:20.609 --> 01:19:22.850
to the foundation company, no portion of the

01:19:22.850 --> 01:19:24.529
income or property of the foundation company

01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.420
From whatever place or source shall be paid or

01:19:27.420 --> 01:19:30.720
transferred directly or indirectly by way of

01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.060
dividend, bonus, or otherwise by way of distribution

01:19:33.060 --> 01:19:37.180
to Section I members, directors, or supervisors

01:19:37.180 --> 01:19:40.079
of the foundation company or Section II automata.

01:19:40.659 --> 01:19:43.420
Nice. And its shareholders, directors, officers,

01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.079
affiliates. Additionally, no amounts will be

01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.359
paid, transferred directly or indirectly or otherwise

01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.979
distributed to the token holders or to Atlas

01:19:50.979 --> 01:19:54.399
token holders based on token ownership. That

01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.720
is a very, very good protective statement. Sandbox

01:19:57.720 --> 01:19:59.739
has something very similar to that. It's much

01:19:59.739 --> 01:20:06.420
more vague. But this is saying outright you will

01:20:06.420 --> 01:20:11.439
not transfer assets from the foundation company

01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:19.619
to automata people or no income or property of

01:20:19.619 --> 01:20:23.560
the foundation company shall be given As a dividend

01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:27.760
or bonus to the members, supervisors, directors

01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.380
of the foundation company. Basically meaning

01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:33.380
rug pulling. So you know how rug pull happens

01:20:33.380 --> 01:20:39.119
when the owner takes the money and runs? Or some

01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.180
person within the project takes the money, takes

01:20:42.180 --> 01:20:44.640
that property, and they run away? This is an

01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.899
anti -rug paragraph right here. Section 8. It's

01:20:48.899 --> 01:20:51.119
very good. It's very specific, too. I like the

01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:53.840
fact that they call out automata people, specifically

01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:57.979
automata. That's very stand -up of them to do.

01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:02.239
That gives me, my trust is increasing the more

01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:05.159
I'm reading this. It's just, it's clean. It's

01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.159
very clean. And after talking with Carolyn and

01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:10.460
Mel from Walkers Global, you can tell they know

01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:12.340
what they're doing. This was done two years ago,

01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.699
so they've only learned more since then. But

01:21:15.699 --> 01:21:19.220
this is very clean. It's very... I'm not seeing

01:21:19.220 --> 01:21:23.399
a lot of ambiguity, except for Section 5, which

01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:25.220
gives them the authority to pretty much do whatever.

01:21:25.460 --> 01:21:28.659
But still, that part, I'm not bothered by that.

01:21:29.619 --> 01:21:34.380
But here in this anti -rug paragraph, they call

01:21:34.380 --> 01:21:36.579
themselves out. They mean automata, because automata

01:21:36.579 --> 01:21:38.300
is the one who commissioned this to be done.

01:21:38.420 --> 01:21:41.380
Otherwise, it wouldn't have been done. And they

01:21:41.380 --> 01:21:45.920
say we can't pay ourselves. We can't pay ourselves

01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:50.189
unduly. So it says, apart from authorized remuneration

01:21:50.189 --> 01:21:53.609
for services rendered. So if you are an automaton

01:21:53.609 --> 01:21:57.710
employee and you provide a service, the foundation

01:21:57.710 --> 01:22:00.489
company is allowed to pay you for that. They're

01:22:00.489 --> 01:22:01.710
allowed to pay you for your services rendered.

01:22:01.890 --> 01:22:05.569
But you can't just say, I want half of the treasury.

01:22:05.890 --> 01:22:09.670
I want half of that $1 .7 million. And because

01:22:09.670 --> 01:22:13.930
I own a significant portion of foundation company,

01:22:14.170 --> 01:22:17.500
they must do it. Here it says, We will not do

01:22:17.500 --> 01:22:21.079
that. And it's part of the director's job to

01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:24.640
ensure that this is carried out properly. But

01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.039
is this part of what the fiduciary is? I don't

01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:31.640
know. I need to ask. You know what? We can update

01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.260
that question, right? Let's update that question.

01:22:36.859 --> 01:22:46.319
Let's add the anti -rug protection of section.

01:22:48.689 --> 01:22:53.229
So this is cool. I really like seeing the differences

01:22:53.229 --> 01:22:59.710
that each legal and business foundation company

01:22:59.710 --> 01:23:04.449
has done. Sandbox took a different approach than

01:23:04.449 --> 01:23:07.890
Ape Coined Out. And Ape Coined Out took a different

01:23:07.890 --> 01:23:11.369
approach from Star Atlas. They all have different

01:23:11.369 --> 01:23:18.140
ways of approaching it. Star Atlas has TTA. Alburga,

01:23:18.140 --> 01:23:23.399
Thor, Thorne, Thorpe, and Alburga. Apologies

01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:27.100
if I got that wrong. And then Star Atlas took

01:23:27.100 --> 01:23:35.380
the Walker's Global approach. And we... Ooh,

01:23:35.460 --> 01:23:38.579
words are hard today. And we interviewed them.

01:23:39.899 --> 01:23:42.260
Episode 59. I didn't get a chance to talk to

01:23:42.260 --> 01:23:46.369
TTA yet. The Alburga group. I'd like to one day

01:23:46.369 --> 01:23:51.210
though. Alright, back to reading. So that was

01:23:51.210 --> 01:23:53.050
section 8. I'm very happy to see that section.

01:23:53.430 --> 01:23:56.350
That gives me a lot of faith. Starting to build

01:23:56.350 --> 01:24:00.069
a lot of trust here. Section 9. The liability

01:24:00.069 --> 01:24:01.649
of the members is limited to the undertaking

01:24:01.649 --> 01:24:05.250
as set out in clause 11. See earlier when I told

01:24:05.250 --> 01:24:08.909
you that what was that limited liability? It's

01:24:08.909 --> 01:24:12.850
going to be in either the articles or the memo.

01:24:13.340 --> 01:24:15.119
Well, here it is. Let's go look at Clause 11.

01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:19.840
Each person who is a member undertakes to contribute

01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:22.079
to the assets of the foundation company in the

01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.500
event of the foundation company being wound up.

01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:26.920
Wound up is just the Grand Cayman Island word

01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:30.060
for liquidated or closed down. For being wound

01:24:30.060 --> 01:24:32.880
up during the time that the person is a member

01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.840
or within one year afterwards for payments of

01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:39.140
the debts and liabilities of the foundation company

01:24:39.140 --> 01:24:41.420
contracted before the time at which the person

01:24:41.420 --> 01:24:43.979
ceases to be a member. and the cost, charges,

01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:46.380
and expenses of the winding up of the foundation

01:24:46.380 --> 01:24:48.840
company, and for the adjustments of the rights

01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.600
of the contributories amongst themselves, such

01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:54.300
amounts as may be required not exceeding the

01:24:54.300 --> 01:24:59.439
sum of one U .S. dollar. Okay, so a lot of this

01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:02.699
is copied straight from the Companies Act and

01:25:02.699 --> 01:25:04.720
Foundation Companies Law, like that whole one

01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:06.939
within one year afterwards, that's taken straight

01:25:06.939 --> 01:25:11.170
from the law. Cool. And then for a time in which

01:25:11.170 --> 01:25:13.590
the person ceases to be a member, all taken from

01:25:13.590 --> 01:25:16.369
the law again, the part not exceeding the sum

01:25:16.369 --> 01:25:18.609
of one US dollar, Sandbox did the same thing,

01:25:18.649 --> 01:25:22.149
where if the foundation company is taken to court

01:25:22.149 --> 01:25:25.310
and it has to pay all these millions of dollars,

01:25:25.550 --> 01:25:28.630
the members and directors and all of them have

01:25:28.630 --> 01:25:31.750
to pay, they're on the hook for one US dollar.

01:25:34.210 --> 01:25:36.649
And because foundation companies are a separate...

01:25:36.970 --> 01:25:38.970
entity they have their own legal personality

01:25:38.970 --> 01:25:43.090
then you know that that means that whoever sues

01:25:43.090 --> 01:25:45.229
or goes after the foundation company can also

01:25:45.229 --> 01:25:49.270
sue or at least when the foundation company gets

01:25:49.270 --> 01:25:53.470
liquidated you know michael wagner or the the

01:25:53.470 --> 01:25:56.090
director doesn't have to pay more than one dollar

01:25:56.090 --> 01:25:59.369
so it's another protection afforded foundation

01:25:59.369 --> 01:26:02.930
companies and that this walker's goal determined

01:26:02.930 --> 01:26:06.250
would be important to put into effect here for

01:26:06.250 --> 01:26:11.670
the star atlas style okay we skipped over section

01:26:11.670 --> 01:26:14.189
10. all right so section 9 was the liability

01:26:14.189 --> 01:26:15.850
of the members is limited to the undertaking

01:26:15.850 --> 01:26:18.510
as set out in clause 11. section 10 says the

01:26:18.510 --> 01:26:20.189
foundation company may cease to have members

01:26:20.189 --> 01:26:24.210
that's also very typical i still need to know

01:26:24.210 --> 01:26:28.229
what that means actually what what does that

01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:30.310
practically mean for the day -to -day running

01:26:30.310 --> 01:26:36.149
let's ask that what does cease To have members

01:26:36.149 --> 01:26:41.430
practically mean for the day -to -day running

01:26:41.430 --> 01:26:47.489
of foundation company. And we're going to reference

01:26:47.489 --> 01:26:53.529
section 10. All right, we're going to highlight

01:26:53.529 --> 01:26:58.390
our keywords. May cease to have members. So members

01:26:58.390 --> 01:27:03.239
is a keyword. So is foundation company. Alright,

01:27:03.340 --> 01:27:07.380
and then reference section 10. Alright, cool.

01:27:08.939 --> 01:27:13.220
And then we did section 11, which was the spelled

01:27:13.220 --> 01:27:18.739
out liability, $1. And then section 12. If on

01:27:18.739 --> 01:27:20.659
the winding up or dissolution of the foundation

01:27:20.659 --> 01:27:23.020
company there remain surplus assets after the

01:27:23.020 --> 01:27:25.840
satisfaction of its debts and liabilities, the

01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:27.760
same shall be applied or distributed under the

01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:30.159
articles of association of the foundation company.

01:27:30.500 --> 01:27:34.010
And... Subject thereto shall be paid to transfer

01:27:34.010 --> 01:27:37.970
to such charitable objects as shall be decided

01:27:37.970 --> 01:27:41.630
by directors or directors' resolution. For the

01:27:41.630 --> 01:27:43.569
avoidance of doubt, in no event shall any distribution

01:27:43.569 --> 01:27:47.789
of assets pursuant to this clause 12 go to I,

01:27:48.550 --> 01:27:51.069
the members, directors, or supervisors of the

01:27:51.069 --> 01:27:55.729
foundation company, or to Automata, Inc., and

01:27:55.729 --> 01:27:59.409
its shareholders, directors, officers, or affiliates,

01:27:59.409 --> 01:28:02.510
or 3. Token holders or Atlas token holders based

01:28:02.510 --> 01:28:08.289
on token ownership. So this is another anti -rug

01:28:08.289 --> 01:28:12.369
protection. A little bit different though. So

01:28:12.369 --> 01:28:15.090
if the foundation company has to shut down, which

01:28:15.090 --> 01:28:20.189
is what the solution winding up means, then they

01:28:20.189 --> 01:28:26.210
are not, even in that case, the assets of the

01:28:26.210 --> 01:28:31.670
DAO can't just be doled out to people. Like a

01:28:31.670 --> 01:28:38.350
closing rug pull. So, same protection. This is

01:28:38.350 --> 01:28:41.470
reading almost exactly like the way Sandbox DAO

01:28:41.470 --> 01:28:48.970
has. That's a nice little note. That's not going

01:28:48.970 --> 01:28:54.430
to be a question. Section 11 and 12 read just

01:28:54.430 --> 01:29:02.829
like Sandbox Foundation docs. I'm going to look

01:29:02.829 --> 01:29:04.850
into that a little bit later, see what that's

01:29:04.850 --> 01:29:09.569
about. That might not be anything at all. I think

01:29:09.569 --> 01:29:15.229
that's a really fascinating thing. Okay. Section

01:29:15.229 --> 01:29:18.529
13. This memorandum and article association may

01:29:18.529 --> 01:29:21.770
be altered by the director's resolution, except

01:29:21.770 --> 01:29:25.109
that neither Clause 8 nor Clause 12 of this memorandum

01:29:25.109 --> 01:29:27.569
may be altered in any way such that the distribution

01:29:27.569 --> 01:29:30.210
of assets from the foundation companies are or

01:29:30.210 --> 01:29:32.600
will be pay for the benefit of the members or

01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:36.340
future members of foundation company data this

01:29:36.340 --> 01:29:39.180
eighth day of september 2022 i want to ask that

01:29:39.180 --> 01:29:44.720
question what what is that that huge difference

01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:51.859
all right so what caused let's do this let's

01:29:51.859 --> 01:30:04.939
do a new what caused the time But what was the

01:30:04.939 --> 01:30:13.159
source of the time gap between Star Atlas Foundation

01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:18.039
Company Incorporation, which was 8 September

01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:28.539
22, and PIP1, which was July 2024? Do we have

01:30:28.539 --> 01:30:32.300
an exact date? I see your message. I see what

01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.739
you're talking about in the chat, Siggy. Give

01:30:33.739 --> 01:30:37.560
me a second. I'll get to it. When was that? It

01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:42.020
was July. All right, let's take a look. When

01:30:42.020 --> 01:30:50.420
precisely was it? July something. Oh. Samsor

01:30:50.420 --> 01:30:55.460
has a very interesting response. Samsor says,

01:30:55.739 --> 01:31:02.039
interesting. Kind of joking, maybe not though.

01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:08.800
Don't know. But it was July something. We can

01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.079
always download the record. Oh, okay. Hit pretty

01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:14.479
print, and then let's take a look at what the

01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:18.020
date was. July 11th. All right, so about July

01:31:18.020 --> 01:31:23.000
11th. Let's just stick with that. So 11, July

01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:34.199
24. Why that two -year gap? And just a random

01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:37.319
question, really, in the end. And then reference

01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:46.640
section 14. And pip 1. And then we can link pip

01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:55.220
1. And then that will be done so. Cool. Question

01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:58.859
number 5. So we're already on question number

01:31:58.859 --> 01:32:01.729
5. But I have a feeling we're pretty close to

01:32:01.729 --> 01:32:05.829
being done here. Yeah, there it is. Oh, I can't

01:32:05.829 --> 01:32:07.770
see what I'm saying. There's a signatory page

01:32:07.770 --> 01:32:11.630
right there. And name, address, and description

01:32:11.630 --> 01:32:13.649
of the subscriber. And again, the subscriber

01:32:13.649 --> 01:32:18.409
is the very first member of the corporation.

01:32:19.270 --> 01:32:22.949
All right, and there's the Walkers Global Limited.

01:32:24.210 --> 01:32:29.840
That's Walkers. Signed by people. There's a secretary

01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:36.699
right there. And there's Walkers Limited. And

01:32:36.699 --> 01:32:39.579
there's the representative of them. And that

01:32:39.579 --> 01:32:44.420
is the end of the first document, Star Atlas

01:32:44.420 --> 01:32:47.920
Foundation Memorandum of Association. That created

01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:51.199
the company back in 2022. Let's take a look at

01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:57.180
what Siggy said. Siggy said... Lancer, here's

01:32:57.180 --> 01:32:59.000
the answer to your earlier question on DAO income

01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:01.920
flowing to the DAO treasury. Game activity income

01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:07.140
equals crafting fees, disbanding fees, etc. Marketplace

01:33:07.140 --> 01:33:10.380
fees income are small fees charged on each trade

01:33:10.380 --> 01:33:13.739
on each marketplace. And the fee starts at 6%.

01:33:13.739 --> 01:33:19.060
4 % goes to automata, 2 % to the DAO. Fees can

01:33:19.060 --> 01:33:21.460
be reduced by locking Atlas in the Atlas locker.

01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:24.220
Right, right, right. That's what I was talking

01:33:24.220 --> 01:33:28.840
about earlier, that ecosystem thing where Star

01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:31.340
Atlas is already self -sufficient because of

01:33:31.340 --> 01:33:34.000
the trading activity and all of the marketplace

01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:38.020
activity going on in the Star Atlas. All right,

01:33:38.060 --> 01:33:39.340
so let's take a look here. I'm going to show

01:33:39.340 --> 01:33:43.460
you what I mean. It is so cool. I knew right

01:33:43.460 --> 01:33:47.760
away when I saw this that I had stumbled upon

01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.420
something I should have seen this coming a long

01:33:51.420 --> 01:33:54.649
time ago. Where's the marketplace? Marketplace,

01:33:54.710 --> 01:33:56.770
marketplace. Oh, come on. I know you're in here.

01:33:57.449 --> 01:34:01.810
Maybe play now. There we go. So here is the Star

01:34:01.810 --> 01:34:04.989
Atlas website. Got stuff on the right, but what

01:34:04.989 --> 01:34:09.350
we're looking for here is marketplace, the little

01:34:09.350 --> 01:34:14.909
icon. So they have all sorts of stuff. Crews,

01:34:14.909 --> 01:34:23.220
ships, people, ship parts. Like here's... Let's

01:34:23.220 --> 01:34:26.779
take a look at a big old ship. Take a look at

01:34:26.779 --> 01:34:30.680
a capital. Alright, here we go. Look at this

01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:34.300
thing. This thing's selling for... This is a

01:34:34.300 --> 01:34:41.180
bomber. An ECOS bomber. Take a look at this thing.

01:34:42.779 --> 01:34:46.520
See this bomber? Look how cool that looks. This

01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:49.859
is a ship that you can get in the game. They're

01:34:49.859 --> 01:34:51.840
still working on the first -person shooter part

01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:53.619
of it, but this is what it's going to look like.

01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:57.119
It's a bomb ship, and right now it's selling

01:34:57.119 --> 01:35:04.939
for $66 ,000. You can buy it for also $32 ,000.

01:35:05.539 --> 01:35:07.420
Let's take a look at the commander ships, because

01:35:07.420 --> 01:35:09.340
the commander ships also tell you. So here is

01:35:09.340 --> 01:35:11.800
the Pierce C -11, and this is kind of like an

01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.600
aircraft carrier. All right, this Pierce C -11

01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.579
is one of the top ships. You're getting way,

01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:21.100
way up there. This thing is selling for 27 ,000

01:35:21.100 --> 01:35:26.340
USDC right now. So when people buy, sell stuff

01:35:26.340 --> 01:35:31.359
and resources, medkits and all sorts of things,

01:35:31.420 --> 01:35:37.140
consumables, every time they buy, sell on the

01:35:37.140 --> 01:35:41.699
blockchain, Solana, it's what Siggy was just

01:35:41.699 --> 01:35:45.659
saying, how a percentage goes to... automata

01:35:45.659 --> 01:35:48.680
and a percentage goes to the dow and that is

01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:52.140
that is the marketplace activity part of that

01:35:52.140 --> 01:35:57.479
treasury that we saw earlier in govern where's

01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:03.460
govern govern star atlas .com all right watch

01:36:03.460 --> 01:36:07.260
that here and then treasury and boom 1 .7 million

01:36:07.260 --> 01:36:11.319
and then we saw how part of it's coming from

01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:13.979
marketplace fees But then also part of it is

01:36:13.979 --> 01:36:18.760
coming from game activity. And so every time

01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:22.279
you do stuff in the game on their website version,

01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:26.000
they have a website version by the way, it triggers

01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.720
a transaction. It's like when you move a fleet.

01:36:29.180 --> 01:36:32.300
So a lot of the game is on -chain. It's very

01:36:32.300 --> 01:36:34.560
fascinating how that works. And because it's

01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:37.119
on -chain and their smart contracts push out

01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:40.479
percentages to the DAO and everywhere else, that

01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:44.689
is... Like they already have a fully functioning

01:36:44.689 --> 01:36:48.189
economy right there. That is cool. That is super

01:36:48.189 --> 01:36:53.090
cool. All right. So we didn't really have a ton

01:36:53.090 --> 01:36:55.789
of questions. That's probably because we're in

01:36:55.789 --> 01:37:00.630
part five now of our miniseries. So we only had

01:37:00.630 --> 01:37:07.369
five questions. That's pretty cool. For reference,

01:37:07.449 --> 01:37:10.210
Sandbox, I got out of there with like, I think

01:37:10.210 --> 01:37:13.420
it was 60 questions, maybe. A lot of questions.

01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:17.659
A lot of questions. So far, I'm at five. It's

01:37:17.659 --> 01:37:20.300
a good number. It's a really good number. Now,

01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:24.840
let's go ahead and move on to... Wait, ZamSource

01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:28.479
said... This will be a good time to click on

01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:32.140
the ecosystem dashboard and get live economic

01:37:32.140 --> 01:37:34.460
stacks. Go to the governance site, click more

01:37:34.460 --> 01:37:38.859
at the top, and click ecosystem dashboard. Okay,

01:37:38.939 --> 01:37:46.319
let's try that. Let's check that out. More? Ecosystem

01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:51.119
dashboard? That's a very unassuming hidden button

01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:55.760
right there. What does this do? What is this?

01:37:57.779 --> 01:38:00.060
Are these pivot tables? Oh, failed load to get

01:38:00.060 --> 01:38:03.560
data. Maybe I just need to refresh. Come on.

01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:08.180
Come on. Okay, failed load to get data. I assume,

01:38:08.180 --> 01:38:11.409
though, oh, look at these filters. These are

01:38:11.409 --> 01:38:15.170
pivot tables. Here's the emission data. Now,

01:38:15.210 --> 01:38:18.050
that one I did know. I found the link to that

01:38:18.050 --> 01:38:21.989
and polis emissions. They all taper off in August

01:38:21.989 --> 01:38:25.750
of 2030. So you have five years left. Local market

01:38:25.750 --> 01:38:28.310
prices. I'm sure there's... Oh, there we go.

01:38:28.390 --> 01:38:32.189
Look at that. Oni, Ooster, and Mud are their

01:38:32.189 --> 01:38:36.350
three factions within the game. So this is saying

01:38:36.350 --> 01:38:41.789
stuff. Contracts. Contracts and things. That

01:38:41.789 --> 01:38:43.850
you can produce resources. So like you can mine.

01:38:44.029 --> 01:38:46.890
You can get mining things. And then buy and sell

01:38:46.890 --> 01:38:53.430
mine. Or. Raw material. And then you can craft

01:38:53.430 --> 01:38:58.770
that. Or into useful things. Warping. So I guess

01:38:58.770 --> 01:39:02.470
this means. When ships go places. Place to place.

01:39:04.770 --> 01:39:09.500
So Zamsur is saying. Holy smokes. Look at that.

01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:12.920
That is beautiful. Whatever this is, this is

01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:17.420
beautiful. Oh, coordinates. This is a map. This

01:39:17.420 --> 01:39:21.399
is a map. So this is the, I guess this is the

01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:25.180
map in the game, and people are, this is where

01:39:25.180 --> 01:39:28.720
the different three factions all go on this map.

01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:32.960
Like, all those ships you saw earlier, people

01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:35.800
are driving, flying those ships on the browser.

01:39:36.350 --> 01:39:38.390
The UE5 version, which is the first -person Elite

01:39:38.390 --> 01:39:41.210
Dangerous version. They're still working on that.

01:39:41.770 --> 01:39:45.369
But these are people moving their ships from

01:39:45.369 --> 01:39:48.149
different star bases. Holy smokes, this is cool.

01:39:49.310 --> 01:39:53.409
And you've got consumables like fuel, ammo, toolkits,

01:39:53.409 --> 01:39:56.510
and stuff like that you gotta burn to fly your

01:39:56.510 --> 01:40:03.069
ship. And they have secondary prices. Oh. Okay.

01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:08.340
Man, you can get lost in this. This is cool.

01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:13.939
Alright, anyways, that was a great detour. Thank

01:40:13.939 --> 01:40:18.680
you, Zamzor. Zamzor said, we've had days when

01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:21.340
Star Atlas has more transactions than the entire

01:40:21.340 --> 01:40:26.760
ETH chain. That's pretty cool. That's pretty

01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:33.899
cool. Alright, let's get back to... Our second

01:40:33.899 --> 01:40:38.979
one. So if we have five questions for Memo Association,

01:40:39.420 --> 01:40:44.420
that's great. Let's go to the Articles of Association.

01:40:44.779 --> 01:40:48.640
Not the Constitution. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. The

01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:51.760
Constitution per Grand Cayman Island Law means

01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:55.760
Articles of Association plus the Memo Association.

01:40:56.140 --> 01:40:59.079
So we just read half of the Constitution. We're

01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.270
going to read the second half, which is... The

01:41:02.270 --> 01:41:05.909
Articles of Association. Okay, still have the

01:41:05.909 --> 01:41:08.750
same stamp. And then on top left, they paid their

01:41:08.750 --> 01:41:14.310
dues. This is also when we read through the Cayman

01:41:14.310 --> 01:41:17.890
Islands laws. They had the fee structure there,

01:41:17.989 --> 01:41:21.090
so we knew why we were paying $50. I mean, we

01:41:21.090 --> 01:41:23.369
even knew that. That, to me, is cool. That's

01:41:23.369 --> 01:41:26.909
closing the loop. Why is that stamp there? Why

01:41:26.909 --> 01:41:29.909
does it say Grand Cayman Islands? Why is it a

01:41:29.909 --> 01:41:32.319
stamp duty? You know, what does all this mean?

01:41:33.380 --> 01:41:37.159
It all has meaning. And that's what we discovered

01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:41.560
earlier when we were going through all of that

01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:46.000
with our Sandow 56, when we were reading through

01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:49.560
all of the laws and all of these words started

01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:52.859
having a lot more meaning to them. Cool stuff.

01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:57.760
It's so cool. All right. The Companies Act, as

01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:01.319
amended. Foundation Companies Act, 2017. Articles

01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:05.079
of Association of Star Atlas Foundation, a foundation

01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:07.359
company limited by guarantee without share capital.

01:42:07.659 --> 01:42:09.319
Don't need to go over that again. We went over

01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:14.300
that for memo. Okay, walkers again. And I actually

01:42:14.300 --> 01:42:17.199
don't know what this is. That might mean something,

01:42:17.340 --> 01:42:21.020
but I've never really seen what exactly, I've

01:42:21.020 --> 01:42:24.920
never seen that before. There's the authorization

01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:28.159
code down there. We'll end with the entity search

01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:32.310
and you'll see what to do with that. All right,

01:42:32.369 --> 01:42:35.109
so the table of contents. Wow, okay, I've never

01:42:35.109 --> 01:42:37.130
seen a table of contents for the Articles Association

01:42:37.130 --> 01:42:40.470
before. Interpretation, preliminary, members,

01:42:40.689 --> 01:42:42.930
directors, supervisors, beneficiaries, secretary,

01:42:43.289 --> 01:42:45.869
general meetings, proxies, directors, meetings,

01:42:45.949 --> 01:42:47.930
accounts, financial year -end, auditors winding

01:42:47.930 --> 01:42:50.750
up, indemnity, bylaws, alteration of articles.

01:42:52.649 --> 01:42:54.569
We're already halfway done reading this. You

01:42:54.569 --> 01:42:57.430
can tell on the right where the little icon is.

01:42:58.170 --> 01:43:00.060
This is cool. We're going to do this in... Record

01:43:00.060 --> 01:43:07.859
time compared to everybody else. Okay. Articles

01:43:07.859 --> 01:43:11.119
of association of Star Atlas Foundation. Interpretation.

01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:13.239
That's an interesting word. What does that word

01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:17.640
mean? Oh, preliminary? Oh, interpretation just

01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:21.640
means definitions. Okay. In these articles, unless

01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:24.960
the context requires otherwise, acts means the

01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:27.180
Foundation Companies Act, the Companies Act applicable

01:43:27.180 --> 01:43:29.479
to Foundation Companies. and every statutory

01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:34.119
modification or reenactment of them. Atlas token

01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:39.340
holders means persons or entities who own and

01:43:39.340 --> 01:43:42.600
control the Solana -based utility tokens of Star

01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:44.619
Atlas Metaverse represented by the following

01:43:44.619 --> 01:43:51.199
smart contract address. That's cool. I don't

01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:54.899
think I've ever seen a foundation document list

01:43:54.899 --> 01:43:58.380
a smart contract before. That's the first time

01:43:58.380 --> 01:44:01.739
I've seen that. That's rocking. Rocking and rolling.

01:44:02.420 --> 01:44:04.760
Companies Act means the Companies Act as amended

01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:08.460
of the Grand Cayman Islands. Foundations Companies

01:44:08.460 --> 01:44:10.979
Act means the Foundation Companies Act as amended

01:44:10.979 --> 01:44:13.880
of the Grand Cayman Islands. And one more time,

01:44:14.020 --> 01:44:16.420
if you want to see me, you want to see a read

01:44:16.420 --> 01:44:21.159
-through of that, of both of those two together,

01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:27.649
go look at episode 56. Send out 56. We read through

01:44:27.649 --> 01:44:30.090
this regulation stack and what it means to a

01:44:30.090 --> 01:44:32.930
foundation company. So earlier when we talked

01:44:32.930 --> 01:44:35.989
about here, so 56, reading the Grand Cayman Island

01:44:35.989 --> 01:44:42.770
Law, and we discussed, we researched the Grand

01:44:42.770 --> 01:44:45.430
Cayman Island Law, we applied it, we looked at

01:44:45.430 --> 01:44:47.729
some terminology comparisons, we did a TLDR,

01:44:47.930 --> 01:44:50.449
and we looked at the remaining questions. I highly,

01:44:50.470 --> 01:44:52.270
highly recommend it. If you want to know about

01:44:52.270 --> 01:44:54.949
foundation companies, go listen to that one first.

01:44:55.979 --> 01:45:04.460
And then go listen to episode 59, where practicing

01:45:04.460 --> 01:45:08.500
lawyers from Grand Cayman Islands will discuss

01:45:08.500 --> 01:45:11.619
Foundation Company. Both of those two together

01:45:11.619 --> 01:45:19.359
will get you very familiar with all this. I mean,

01:45:19.380 --> 01:45:21.600
you'll be right. You'll know as much as I do

01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:27.619
at that point. The rest of them are really good,

01:45:27.659 --> 01:45:29.180
especially if you're a United States person,

01:45:29.380 --> 01:45:34.819
episode 57. And if you are a Sandbox person,

01:45:35.100 --> 01:45:39.300
episode 60. If you are a Star Atlas person, this

01:45:39.300 --> 01:45:45.479
is the one for you, episode 62. All right. Let's

01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:48.340
go back to our definitions, also called the interpretation,

01:45:48.619 --> 01:45:51.199
section one. Ordinary resolution means a resolution

01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:52.920
passed at a general meeting of the foundation

01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:55.560
company by a simple majority of votes cast or

01:45:55.560 --> 01:45:58.100
by a written resolution in writing under Article

01:45:58.100 --> 01:46:03.460
54. Is that an article here? What is Article

01:46:03.460 --> 01:46:10.739
54? Oh, okay. Alright, we'll get to that. Polis

01:46:10.739 --> 01:46:12.939
tokens means the Solana -based governance token

01:46:12.939 --> 01:46:15.060
of the Star Atlas Metaverse represented by the

01:46:15.060 --> 01:46:17.880
following smart contract address. And there is

01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.359
the... You can tell that this is block justified

01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:28.640
by the spaces right there. See how it all looks

01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:32.760
very block lined out? That means it was block

01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:38.760
justified. Count on the lawyers to block justify.

01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:42.680
Next, special resolution. Means a resolution

01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:44.460
passed at a general meeting of the foundation

01:46:44.460 --> 01:46:47.340
company. By not less than a two -thirds majority

01:46:47.340 --> 01:46:50.180
of votes cast or by resolution writing under

01:46:50.180 --> 01:46:57.399
article 5454, there are 5 ,000 articles? I think

01:46:57.399 --> 01:47:02.920
maybe they just mean 54. Yeah. Okay. There are

01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:09.260
not 5 ,000 articles in this. That's good. Alright.

01:47:10.699 --> 01:47:14.100
Token holders means person or entities who own

01:47:14.100 --> 01:47:16.380
and control Polis tokens from time to time as

01:47:16.380 --> 01:47:18.479
evidenced by the Solana blockchain that have

01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:20.220
been locked or staked in a manner that accords

01:47:20.220 --> 01:47:22.199
such persons or entities voting rights in the

01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:24.560
Star Atlas metaverse in accordance with the bylaws,

01:47:24.659 --> 01:47:27.359
if any, or such procedures as designated by directors.

01:47:28.859 --> 01:47:31.020
Written and in writing includes all modes of

01:47:31.020 --> 01:47:32.760
representing or reproducing words in visible

01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:37.880
form. Section 2. Except as provided above, words

01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:39.979
and expressions defined or used in the acts have

01:47:39.979 --> 01:47:43.180
the same meaning in these articles. Cool. Now

01:47:43.180 --> 01:47:47.760
we move on to preliminary. Section 3. The business

01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:49.560
of the foundation company may be commenced immediately

01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:52.399
upon registration pursuant to the acts. Section

01:47:52.399 --> 01:47:55.640
4. The foundation company may ratify any contract

01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:58.359
or other transaction entered into its name or

01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:00.939
on its behalf prior to registration. Section

01:48:00.939 --> 01:48:03.899
5. The preliminary expenses of incorporating

01:48:03.899 --> 01:48:07.960
the foundation company shall be paid. Foundation

01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:11.020
company, including any expenses concerning any

01:48:11.020 --> 01:48:13.079
contract or transaction ratified under Article

01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:18.399
4. Okay. Yeah, so, so far, it's just, it's saying

01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:21.039
normal stuff. You can pay for things. You can

01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:25.479
start doing things. All that. Next up, members.

01:48:25.859 --> 01:48:29.300
There we go. The subscribers. to the memorandum

01:48:29.300 --> 01:48:31.479
of association are the first members of the foundation

01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:36.380
company. Okay. Yeah. So we, I think I said that

01:48:36.380 --> 01:48:38.460
earlier, the subscriber, which was the person

01:48:38.460 --> 01:48:44.460
who signed by the way. So it would bend. It would

01:48:44.460 --> 01:48:49.020
have been, I'm pretty sure it's this person,

01:48:49.100 --> 01:48:54.000
a signatory of Walker's global. I think they're

01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.439
the, they're the subscriber. Yeah, there it is.

01:48:56.619 --> 01:48:58.760
Name and address. a description of subscriber.

01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:02.420
So that right there is your first member. That

01:49:02.420 --> 01:49:06.680
person has dictator power immediately upon signing

01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:09.859
this and it getting stamped. But as we learned

01:49:09.859 --> 01:49:12.399
with our Walkers Global people, our friends over

01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:16.979
Mel and Carolyn, that that's the director -led

01:49:16.979 --> 01:49:19.659
portion. And then you move over to the token

01:49:19.659 --> 01:49:22.079
holder -led portion where the subscriber will

01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:25.680
give up their power and then start the DAO by

01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:31.479
giving power to, Different people. That was.

01:49:33.300 --> 01:49:38.699
That was. This slide right here. And this from

01:49:38.699 --> 01:49:41.659
episode 59. Where we talked about the director

01:49:41.659 --> 01:49:45.579
led. So there went immediately upon. It all getting.

01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:52.420
They're not the director yet. So they choose

01:49:52.420 --> 01:49:56.729
a director. But the director -led is before the

01:49:56.729 --> 01:49:58.090
token holder -led, and the token holder -led

01:49:58.090 --> 01:50:01.430
is when you have councils and different members

01:50:01.430 --> 01:50:06.630
and the separation of powers. But in the beginning,

01:50:06.850 --> 01:50:10.590
right when you sign this thing, the first person

01:50:10.590 --> 01:50:17.430
to be a member is that subscriber. Okay? Section

01:50:17.430 --> 01:50:20.630
7. Subject to these articles, the directors may

01:50:20.630 --> 01:50:24.899
direct... Subject to these articles, the directors

01:50:24.899 --> 01:50:30.739
may, by director's resolution, admit as a member

01:50:30.739 --> 01:50:32.539
any person who has applied for membership in

01:50:32.539 --> 01:50:34.819
writing, and the terms of admission may restrict,

01:50:35.020 --> 01:50:37.600
enlarge, or exclude any or all of the voting

01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:41.840
and other rights or powers of members under these

01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:44.319
articles or provide for termination of membership

01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:47.619
at a specified time or in specified circumstances.

01:50:48.939 --> 01:50:52.439
Section 8. The directors, by director's resolution,

01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:54.979
may restrict or prohibit the subsequent admission

01:50:54.979 --> 01:50:57.760
of members. If the restriction or prohibition

01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:00.699
is expressed to be irrevocable, it may not be

01:51:00.699 --> 01:51:03.619
altered or revoked directly or through an alteration

01:51:03.619 --> 01:51:06.560
of these articles. Sandbox style, we had a lot

01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.920
to talk about on irrevocable there. They use

01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:11.880
that term a lot, and there are some questions

01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:14.500
as to just how irrevocable things were when you

01:51:14.500 --> 01:51:17.239
give unlimited god powers to a person or position.

01:51:18.020 --> 01:51:20.680
I don't have that question yet, but I'm already

01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:23.140
thinking. Later on in these articles, are they

01:51:23.140 --> 01:51:25.800
going to talk about that? If they do, then I'll

01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:27.539
have that question. And I'll have to reference

01:51:27.539 --> 01:51:31.380
section 8. So we'll see. We'll put it right here.

01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:34.000
Reference section 8, just in case it comes up

01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:40.739
again. That was the irrevocable part. Okay. The

01:51:40.739 --> 01:51:43.420
director's... Oh, let's take a look at director's

01:51:43.420 --> 01:51:47.579
resolution. What was that? Special resolution.

01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:51.939
Ordinary resolution means a resolution passed

01:51:51.939 --> 01:51:53.800
at a general meeting of the foundation company

01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:57.560
by a simple majority of votes cast or by a written

01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:02.600
resolution under the articles. It doesn't say

01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:05.739
what a director's resolution is here. So let's

01:52:05.739 --> 01:52:12.420
ask that. What is a director's... Where is a

01:52:12.420 --> 01:52:19.760
director's resolution defined? And we're going

01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:23.760
to say section 7. So we're referencing section

01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:34.920
7. That's page 8, section 7. Okay. Where do we

01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:38.920
leave off? We just went over section 8, so now

01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:41.460
we're in section 9. A person's membership of

01:52:41.460 --> 01:52:45.399
the foundation company terminates. Section 9A.

01:52:45.949 --> 01:52:48.430
If the person dies or being a corporation is

01:52:48.430 --> 01:52:51.430
resolved, section 9b. If the person resigns as

01:52:51.430 --> 01:52:53.109
a member by notice to the foundation company,

01:52:53.369 --> 01:52:55.770
resignation shall be effective immediately unless

01:52:55.770 --> 01:52:59.050
the notice states otherwise, or section 9c, as

01:52:59.050 --> 01:53:01.810
provided in the person's terms of admission as

01:53:01.810 --> 01:53:06.390
a member. Okay? Section 10. It is not a condition

01:53:06.390 --> 01:53:08.409
of this article that the foundation company continues

01:53:08.409 --> 01:53:14.489
to have one or more members. Okay? Did we ask

01:53:14.489 --> 01:53:18.300
that question? Yeah, we asked about the CSTED

01:53:18.300 --> 01:53:21.439
members. Okay. Why is that important? That's

01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:27.340
what I want to know. Why is that important? C

01:53:27.340 --> 01:53:29.640
question number. So we're going to link this

01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:36.939
to random association question. So question four.

01:53:38.819 --> 01:53:41.399
And we're going to keep numbering. We're going

01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:43.100
to carry over the numbering. So we're at question

01:53:43.100 --> 01:53:47.250
six now for article of association. And the question

01:53:47.250 --> 01:53:54.409
we're going to ask right now for the continue

01:53:54.409 --> 01:53:56.770
to have more members in the articles is going

01:53:56.770 --> 01:54:00.050
to be question 7. We're going to reference C

01:54:00.050 --> 01:54:07.890
question 4, Memorandum of Association, and we're

01:54:07.890 --> 01:54:15.880
referencing page 9, or excuse me, page 8. Of

01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:22.579
the PDF. And section 11. And because I don't

01:54:22.579 --> 01:54:25.239
want to go back to this, let's just write down

01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:31.300
what we need to. Highlight our keywords. And

01:54:31.300 --> 01:54:37.640
then we're good. All right. Section 11. The rights

01:54:37.640 --> 01:54:39.680
and powers of members are not assignable and,

01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:41.819
except as permitted by these articles or required

01:54:41.819 --> 01:54:44.250
by law, The rights or members of a member may

01:54:44.250 --> 01:54:47.090
not be exercised by any other person on behalf

01:54:47.090 --> 01:54:50.369
of the member. Alright, what is this saying?

01:54:50.590 --> 01:54:54.090
The rights and powers of members are not assignable,

01:54:54.189 --> 01:54:56.670
meaning the members can't give their rights to

01:54:56.670 --> 01:55:00.189
someone else, except as permitted by these articles

01:55:00.189 --> 01:55:01.850
or required by law. Alright, I haven't read anything

01:55:01.850 --> 01:55:04.789
yet that says they can. The rights or powers

01:55:04.789 --> 01:55:07.449
of a member may not be exercised by any other

01:55:07.449 --> 01:55:09.949
person on behalf of the member. Okay, so they're

01:55:09.949 --> 01:55:11.630
just kind of repeating the first clause there.

01:55:12.189 --> 01:55:15.470
All right, no questions there. Section 12, the

01:55:15.470 --> 01:55:17.989
rights and powers of members are free of any

01:55:17.989 --> 01:55:22.829
duty. Do they mean fiduciary duty? Let's find

01:55:22.829 --> 01:55:31.350
out. Does free of any duty mean fiduciary duty?

01:55:31.869 --> 01:55:41.350
That is reference page 9, section 12, or page

01:55:41.350 --> 01:55:46.930
8. Excuse me. Page 8. Okay. Cool. We're already

01:55:46.930 --> 01:55:51.010
at directors now. So, directors. Section 13.

01:55:51.350 --> 01:55:53.229
The foundation company shall at all times have

01:55:53.229 --> 01:55:57.390
at least one director. That's required by company

01:55:57.390 --> 01:56:00.930
law. Section 14. The first directors may be appointed

01:56:00.930 --> 01:56:03.170
by the subscribers to the memorandum. This is

01:56:03.170 --> 01:56:05.170
what I meant earlier when I showed you that slide

01:56:05.170 --> 01:56:09.949
of the director -led to the token -led. We're

01:56:09.949 --> 01:56:15.149
talking about... This slide here. All right,

01:56:15.149 --> 01:56:18.689
so when you incorporate the foundation, you at

01:56:18.689 --> 01:56:21.649
that moment only have one member, the subscriber.

01:56:22.010 --> 01:56:23.989
I guess technically you have two, the secretary.

01:56:24.310 --> 01:56:28.010
So the subscriber and the secretary. The subscriber

01:56:28.010 --> 01:56:32.770
will then appoint a director. At that point,

01:56:32.789 --> 01:56:35.869
you have three members. The director then starts

01:56:35.869 --> 01:56:41.270
appointing people, although Mel and Carolyn...

01:56:41.899 --> 01:56:46.100
said that, at least I heard them to say, that

01:56:46.100 --> 01:56:50.060
the director will then appoint all the different

01:56:50.060 --> 01:56:54.739
members or not, depending on what the actual

01:56:54.739 --> 01:56:59.260
laws are of the foundation company. If I say

01:56:59.260 --> 01:57:02.260
laws, I mean memorandum of association, article

01:57:02.260 --> 01:57:04.640
of association, both of which are known as constitution.

01:57:06.300 --> 01:57:11.260
But this here is saying this. Section 14 is saying

01:57:11.260 --> 01:57:15.960
it may be appointed by the subscribers. So they're

01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:18.500
giving the subscriber power to appoint that first

01:57:18.500 --> 01:57:22.460
director. Second 15. The directors, by notice

01:57:22.460 --> 01:57:24.220
to the foundation company, have the power to

01:57:24.220 --> 01:57:28.439
appoint or remove directors. Okay, so they are

01:57:28.439 --> 01:57:30.119
giving themselves the power to appoint themselves

01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:35.140
or remove themselves. Section 16. A person ceases

01:57:35.140 --> 01:57:37.159
to be a director if removed under the foregoing

01:57:37.159 --> 01:57:40.779
provisions or Section 16a. If the person dies

01:57:40.779 --> 01:57:42.960
or becomes bankrupt or being a corporation and

01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:46.180
turns into winding up or is dissolved. Section

01:57:46.180 --> 01:57:48.859
16b. If the person resigns as the director by

01:57:48.859 --> 01:57:50.899
notice of the foundation company, the resignation

01:57:50.899 --> 01:57:52.960
shall be effective immediately unless the notice

01:57:52.960 --> 01:57:58.100
states otherwise. Section 17. Subject to these

01:57:58.100 --> 01:58:00.920
articles and the bylaws, if any, the business

01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:03.239
and affairs of the foundation company shall be

01:58:03.239 --> 01:58:05.300
managed by or under the control of the directors.

01:58:05.850 --> 01:58:07.630
who may exercise all the powers of the foundation

01:58:07.630 --> 01:58:10.310
company other than those that are required by

01:58:10.310 --> 01:58:12.850
these articles or the bylaws to be exercised

01:58:12.850 --> 01:58:17.170
by the general meetings or others. This is basically

01:58:17.170 --> 01:58:21.050
saying the director is the catch -all. If there

01:58:21.050 --> 01:58:24.270
isn't anything that the bylaws says has to be

01:58:24.270 --> 01:58:27.909
exercised by a specific person, like a member

01:58:27.909 --> 01:58:30.649
or supervisor, if there isn't anything in a general

01:58:30.649 --> 01:58:34.039
meeting that says an activity has to be... exercised

01:58:34.039 --> 01:58:36.819
by a specific person, like a member or supervisor.

01:58:37.699 --> 01:58:41.220
Then by default, the director may exercise all

01:58:41.220 --> 01:58:47.140
those powers not named for other people. Like

01:58:47.140 --> 01:58:50.060
for the secretary, the secretary has to yearly

01:58:50.060 --> 01:58:57.659
send an assertion to the government that the

01:58:57.659 --> 01:58:59.600
articles are up to date and haven't been changed.

01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:05.000
That is something that the... Director does not

01:59:05.000 --> 01:59:08.640
have the authority to do. So that's an authority

01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:13.460
that is exercised outside of the director. All

01:59:13.460 --> 01:59:15.520
right, section 18. The director is made from

01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:17.760
time to time and at any point by power of attorney,

01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:21.180
whether under seal or hand, or otherwise appoint

01:59:21.180 --> 01:59:24.319
any company, firm, or person, or body of persons,

01:59:24.500 --> 01:59:26.840
whether nominated directly or indirected by the

01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:29.100
directors, to be the attorney or attorneys or

01:59:29.100 --> 01:59:32.560
author of signatory. any such person being an

01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:34.420
attorney or authorized signatory, respectively,

01:59:34.739 --> 01:59:37.979
of the company, for such purposes and with such

01:59:37.979 --> 01:59:42.720
powers, authorities and discretion, not exceeding

01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:45.060
those vested in or exercisable by the directors

01:59:45.060 --> 01:59:48.079
under these articles, and for such period and

01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:50.420
subject to such conditions as they may think

01:59:50.420 --> 01:59:53.140
fit, and any such power of attorney or other

01:59:53.140 --> 01:59:57.560
appointment may contain such provisions for the

01:59:57.560 --> 01:59:59.340
protection and convenience of persons dealing.

01:59:59.930 --> 02:00:02.569
any such attorney or authorized signatory as

02:00:02.569 --> 02:00:06.229
the directors may think fit and may also authorize

02:00:06.229 --> 02:00:08.869
any such attorney or authorized signatory to

02:00:08.869 --> 02:00:11.689
delegate all or any of the powers authorities

02:00:11.689 --> 02:00:18.250
and discretion vested in them wow wow all right

02:00:18.250 --> 02:00:23.069
hey ciggy thanks so you said i appreciate your

02:00:23.069 --> 02:00:26.590
attention to detail yeah i appreciate your understanding

02:00:26.590 --> 02:00:31.189
and knowledge of the the treasury and the the

02:00:31.189 --> 02:00:35.090
schedule timeline of events that you posted in

02:00:35.090 --> 02:00:38.149
chat and also talking about the percentages that

02:00:38.149 --> 02:00:42.869
go to Automata and the DAO. Thank you for that.

02:00:42.949 --> 02:00:47.090
Thank you for talking about that in chat. I want

02:00:47.090 --> 02:00:51.109
to break that down because this is huge, very,

02:00:51.210 --> 02:00:54.229
very big thing, but it's decipherable. We can

02:00:54.229 --> 02:00:58.729
start putting a weed whacker to it. show you

02:00:58.729 --> 02:01:02.329
what I think it's trying to say. Let's take all

02:01:02.329 --> 02:01:06.229
this out. We're going to use this as an example.

02:01:08.609 --> 02:01:15.289
Example of interpretation. We're going to paste

02:01:15.289 --> 02:01:18.329
this. Holy smokes. That's not what I wanted.

02:01:20.010 --> 02:01:25.069
Almost there. I'm going to start highlighting.

02:01:25.689 --> 02:01:29.270
Y 'all can't see what I'm doing. All right, let

02:01:29.270 --> 02:01:32.149
me show you how to interpret this. And this is

02:01:32.149 --> 02:01:34.729
just my, like I said, not financial or legal

02:01:34.729 --> 02:01:37.630
advice. I'm not a lawyer. All right, I just do

02:01:37.630 --> 02:01:41.189
contract writing. So I deal a lot with legal

02:01:41.189 --> 02:01:43.789
terms and stuff. So this is my interpretation

02:01:43.789 --> 02:01:46.270
as a business person. That's my background is

02:01:46.270 --> 02:01:50.470
business. When I put on my contracting hat, when

02:01:50.470 --> 02:01:53.869
I put on my contract manager hat, this is how

02:01:53.869 --> 02:01:56.210
I would interpret this from a business standpoint.

02:01:56.760 --> 02:02:01.920
All right, so the directors. You know what I

02:02:01.920 --> 02:02:04.500
want to do? I want to make this bigger. Let's

02:02:04.500 --> 02:02:08.960
make it like this. There we go. We're going to

02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:12.079
make this much bigger so that we can figure this

02:02:12.079 --> 02:02:17.699
out, okay? The directors. Key term, it's a person.

02:02:19.539 --> 02:02:26.199
All right? Now, it says... May from time to time.

02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:31.020
Which just means, you know, if they want to.

02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:35.699
I'm going to I'm going to swag this one. Because.

02:02:37.100 --> 02:02:40.159
It's it's kind of it. Sure. Great. But we don't

02:02:40.159 --> 02:02:43.119
really need it to interpret. Maybe I'll maybe

02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:50.739
we should do it like. There we go. So. Example

02:02:50.739 --> 02:02:58.069
interpretation. This is Section 18 of the Articles

02:02:58.069 --> 02:03:01.810
of Association. And all of you can follow along

02:03:01.810 --> 02:03:04.050
right now with me if you really wanted to. It's

02:03:04.050 --> 02:03:12.590
just page 9 of that PDF. So page 9, PDF. Trying

02:03:12.590 --> 02:03:19.329
to make it to where we can side -by -side this

02:03:19.329 --> 02:03:24.430
really easy. Alright, that's good enough for

02:03:24.430 --> 02:03:30.189
now. Yeah, there we go. So the directors made

02:03:30.189 --> 02:03:31.810
from time to time. So we're going to copy this

02:03:31.810 --> 02:03:37.050
first part. Still good. The directors made from

02:03:37.050 --> 02:03:39.630
time to time. Here's what I'm going to do instead.

02:03:40.649 --> 02:03:43.250
I'm going to track it live so you can see the

02:03:43.250 --> 02:03:46.310
before and after. From left to right. So left

02:03:46.310 --> 02:03:53.560
is before. This is so difficult, but okay. Cool.

02:03:54.500 --> 02:03:58.340
The directors may from time to time at any time

02:03:58.340 --> 02:04:00.739
by power of attorney. All right. So that's a

02:04:00.739 --> 02:04:03.060
key phrase. So we're going to mark that blue.

02:04:03.460 --> 02:04:07.880
So positions and titles will be in green. Okay.

02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:10.899
And blue is going to be a key phrase, whether

02:04:10.899 --> 02:04:13.460
under seal or underhand. And that just means

02:04:13.460 --> 02:04:16.579
you got to like stamp it or whatever, or otherwise

02:04:16.579 --> 02:04:20.180
a point. All right. So a point is an action verb.

02:04:20.670 --> 02:04:22.430
Anytime you have an action verb, you want to

02:04:22.430 --> 02:04:24.850
pay attention. So action verbs are what you do.

02:04:24.890 --> 02:04:28.229
You jump, you throw, you appoint, you designate.

02:04:28.310 --> 02:04:31.010
Those are some key phrases. We're going to make

02:04:31.010 --> 02:04:37.609
that red. Okay, so key phrases are going to be

02:04:37.609 --> 02:04:40.069
in blue. People are going to be in highlighted

02:04:40.069 --> 02:04:43.010
green and key action verbs are going to be red.

02:04:43.550 --> 02:04:46.829
All right, so you may appoint any firm, company,

02:04:47.069 --> 02:04:50.710
persons, or bodies of persons. That could be

02:04:50.710 --> 02:04:55.850
good enough. Whether nominated directly or indirectly.

02:04:56.149 --> 02:04:58.329
That just means whether formally in a meeting

02:04:58.329 --> 02:05:02.029
or I guess on a napkin. I guess you could nominate

02:05:02.029 --> 02:05:05.750
indirectly on a napkin. Not a key phrase. Probably

02:05:05.750 --> 02:05:09.250
going to end up removing it. Well, I can just

02:05:09.250 --> 02:05:11.170
strike through. That's right. I could just strike

02:05:11.170 --> 02:05:14.810
through. Forgot about that. Cool. All right.

02:05:14.810 --> 02:05:17.050
We're going to strike through in real time. So

02:05:17.050 --> 02:05:21.069
made from time to time at any time. We don't

02:05:21.069 --> 02:05:24.529
need that. So we're going to need the word may.

02:05:24.869 --> 02:05:29.329
All right, so may. May, by power of attorney,

02:05:29.550 --> 02:05:32.510
and under whether seal of hand or whatever, don't

02:05:32.510 --> 02:05:38.649
need that. May, by power of attorney, appoint

02:05:38.649 --> 02:05:42.029
any company, firm, or person or body of persons

02:05:42.029 --> 02:05:45.869
to be the attorney or attorney's or authorized

02:05:45.869 --> 02:05:47.590
signature. Now, this is where it gets kind of

02:05:47.590 --> 02:05:51.680
a little janky. But these are some pretty important

02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:55.380
ones right here. All right, so the attorney,

02:05:55.619 --> 02:05:58.859
probably not that important. Okay, I'll take

02:05:58.859 --> 02:06:02.460
that back. Not what we're looking for here. Authorized

02:06:02.460 --> 02:06:05.420
signature is what we're looking for here. That

02:06:05.420 --> 02:06:08.359
authorized signature, remember, if we go back

02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:14.420
to our memorandum, that authorized signature,

02:06:14.680 --> 02:06:20.470
where is it? Where is it? Here. authorized signature

02:06:20.470 --> 02:06:24.130
of walkers global the authorized signature in

02:06:24.130 --> 02:06:27.130
this case brought the whole foundation company

02:06:27.130 --> 02:06:29.989
into an existence into existence so that's a

02:06:29.989 --> 02:06:33.090
pretty important role to have to be an authorized

02:06:33.090 --> 02:06:35.670
signature okay there are many different types

02:06:35.670 --> 02:06:38.770
of authorized signatures right so victoria ashby

02:06:38.770 --> 02:06:42.109
could also be an authorized signatory but we

02:06:42.109 --> 02:06:45.689
see here in our slide that they're not just referencing

02:06:45.689 --> 02:06:47.760
any authorized signatory They're authorized,

02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:50.500
the attorneys and authorized signatories that

02:06:50.500 --> 02:06:53.460
are defined. All right, so let's go back to our

02:06:53.460 --> 02:06:58.020
Section 1 and look at what was defined. Okay?

02:06:59.720 --> 02:07:02.619
Right? We did define that, right? I'm pretty

02:07:02.619 --> 02:07:07.439
sure that's why they put that in here. Hold the

02:07:07.439 --> 02:07:11.279
phone. I don't see it in our A's. Oh, dear, it's

02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:15.340
only here. Okay. Well... Maybe then I'm striking

02:07:15.340 --> 02:07:17.699
that from the list, because if it's not needed,

02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.720
if it's not defined, then we're not going to

02:07:20.720 --> 02:07:23.819
really worry about it. Any such person being

02:07:23.819 --> 02:07:26.220
an attorney or authorized signatory, respectively,

02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:29.920
I don't really know. The word respectively makes

02:07:29.920 --> 02:07:33.039
it seem like they defined it somewhere, but they

02:07:33.039 --> 02:07:37.180
didn't. So what's that about? I don't know. Let's

02:07:37.180 --> 02:07:42.539
look up attorney. That has eight hits. Proxies.

02:07:42.539 --> 02:07:44.960
No, it's all in here. Okay, so if it's all contained

02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:46.520
in here, that means that I can pretty much do

02:07:46.520 --> 02:07:50.060
whatever. I'm going to strike it. That doesn't

02:07:50.060 --> 02:07:54.340
seem to matter much. To be an attorney or author

02:07:54.340 --> 02:08:00.159
or attorney to attorney or attorneys. Oh, they're

02:08:00.159 --> 02:08:05.340
just really covering their tracks. They're just

02:08:05.340 --> 02:08:09.600
really covering their bases on that. Of the company,

02:08:09.880 --> 02:08:16.279
right? So company. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. This

02:08:16.279 --> 02:08:21.739
is a key phrase. Authorized signature is a key

02:08:21.739 --> 02:08:24.119
phrase. So we're going to mark that blue. We're

02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:30.140
going to mark you green. To be the attorney.

02:08:32.979 --> 02:08:35.979
Authorized signature is both. Oh, there we go.

02:08:36.859 --> 02:08:41.729
Authorized signatory as a person. Authorized

02:08:41.729 --> 02:08:48.970
signatory as both a person and a key phrase because

02:08:48.970 --> 02:08:51.630
it seems like they're both. All right, so that's

02:08:51.630 --> 02:08:55.550
pretty cool. Of the company for such purposes

02:08:55.550 --> 02:08:58.609
and with such powers, authorities and discretion,

02:08:59.029 --> 02:09:01.750
not exceeding those vested in or exercisable

02:09:01.750 --> 02:09:04.609
by the director under these articles. That's

02:09:04.609 --> 02:09:06.289
kind of confusing, but it's basically saying

02:09:06.289 --> 02:09:10.229
you can't do more than what the articles say.

02:09:11.059 --> 02:09:15.920
So, okay, cool, I'm going to strike that. Of

02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:18.720
the company for such purposes and with such powers,

02:09:18.760 --> 02:09:22.239
authorities, and discretion. And for such a peer,

02:09:22.279 --> 02:09:25.140
okay, here, such powers, authority, and discretion

02:09:25.140 --> 02:09:30.319
is a key phrase. Such purposes and such powers,

02:09:30.380 --> 02:09:32.560
authority, is really just going to say, look

02:09:32.560 --> 02:09:35.840
at the articles here and read what the director

02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:40.420
can do. That's really what it's going to end

02:09:40.420 --> 02:09:43.760
up saying here. And for such a period and subject

02:09:43.760 --> 02:09:46.239
to such conditions as they may think fit, okay,

02:09:46.380 --> 02:09:51.619
we can strike that. And any such power of attorney

02:09:51.619 --> 02:09:55.359
or other appointment may contain such provisions

02:09:55.359 --> 02:09:58.199
for the protection and convenience of the persons

02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:00.720
dealing with such attorney as they may think

02:10:00.720 --> 02:10:03.060
fit. Again, not important for what we're after

02:10:03.060 --> 02:10:07.289
here. And may also... May also authorize any

02:10:07.289 --> 02:10:10.329
such attorney or authorized signatory to delegate.

02:10:10.630 --> 02:10:12.590
All right, so this is why it was getting confusing.

02:10:14.609 --> 02:10:23.449
To delegate. So may also authorize to delegate.

02:10:25.350 --> 02:10:29.729
That's a key power as well. So here's the key

02:10:29.729 --> 02:10:37.220
person doing the thing. All or any. Of the powers.

02:10:38.020 --> 02:10:41.500
Eh. We can get rid of that. Even though that

02:10:41.500 --> 02:10:44.100
is kind of fascinating. I'm going to underline

02:10:44.100 --> 02:10:47.300
it. It's kind of like a sub. If I were paying

02:10:47.300 --> 02:10:49.520
attention to this in a different light. Like

02:10:49.520 --> 02:10:51.380
what is the limitation of this power. That would

02:10:51.380 --> 02:10:53.239
be an important part. But not in understanding

02:10:53.239 --> 02:10:58.340
this. Authorities and discretions. Vested in

02:10:58.340 --> 02:11:04.479
them. Vested in them is. It's going to be. I

02:11:04.479 --> 02:11:07.480
guess we can mark the whole thing blue. Okay,

02:11:07.480 --> 02:11:12.960
here we go. I just swacked like most of it. And

02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:14.800
it's not because the rest of it's not important,

02:11:14.920 --> 02:11:17.840
but because when you're trying to understand

02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:20.960
this thing, all of the parentheses just kind

02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:24.539
of like gives you parameters. But the parameter

02:11:24.539 --> 02:11:27.279
isn't important enough for you to decide, for

02:11:27.279 --> 02:11:29.380
you to understand what's really happening here.

02:11:29.859 --> 02:11:33.880
Okay, so we're gonna start swacking now. So everything

02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:38.420
that is... Struck through, we're going to delete.

02:11:40.199 --> 02:11:46.500
And we'll see what it looks like. Oh. And it

02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:48.479
should still make sense after we're done here.

02:11:50.380 --> 02:11:55.460
Oh, look at that. Look how big it got now. Cool.

02:11:56.359 --> 02:12:00.960
Now, let's reread this. The directors may, by

02:12:00.960 --> 02:12:07.270
power of attorney, appoint any company firm or

02:12:07.270 --> 02:12:14.869
body of persons or person to be the attorney

02:12:14.869 --> 02:12:20.050
or authorized signatory of the company for such

02:12:20.050 --> 02:12:23.109
purposes and with such powers, authorities, and

02:12:23.109 --> 02:12:27.109
discretion, and may also authorize any such attorney

02:12:27.109 --> 02:12:30.470
or authorized signatory to delegate. My bad,

02:12:30.470 --> 02:12:36.000
that is a red word, meaning... It is a action

02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:40.260
verb. To delegate authorities and discretion

02:12:40.260 --> 02:12:45.199
vested in them. All right, do you see the flow

02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:47.159
already? We might be able to cut down here in

02:12:47.159 --> 02:12:49.460
the middle. Such purposes and with such powers,

02:12:49.479 --> 02:12:54.800
authorities and discretion. I feel like there

02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:59.520
could have been a period here. Okay, all right,

02:12:59.520 --> 02:13:02.899
I get it now. We're going to mark this one red.

02:13:03.390 --> 02:13:05.710
And I'm breaking my rule a little bit, but I

02:13:05.710 --> 02:13:08.489
think it's for a good cause. So here you'd have

02:13:08.489 --> 02:13:12.989
directors made from time to time appoint a power

02:13:12.989 --> 02:13:17.229
of attorney, or I'm sorry, by power of attorney,

02:13:17.350 --> 02:13:21.090
appoint someone to be an authorized signatory

02:13:21.090 --> 02:13:25.430
and give them powers and discretion. And that

02:13:25.430 --> 02:13:29.250
power is limited by whatever the director may

02:13:29.250 --> 02:13:34.789
see fit. and also may authorize that person to

02:13:34.789 --> 02:13:37.069
delegate that power that they gave them to someone

02:13:37.069 --> 02:13:42.430
else. Okay, so here's how it reads. The directors

02:13:42.430 --> 02:13:47.510
may, by power of attorney, appoint any person

02:13:47.510 --> 02:13:53.069
or body of people or company to be the attorney

02:13:53.069 --> 02:13:58.569
or authorized signatory of the company. And they

02:13:58.569 --> 02:14:02.600
may also do so for such purposes and powers as

02:14:02.600 --> 02:14:09.039
the director sees fit and may also authorize

02:14:09.039 --> 02:14:11.960
that same attorney or authorized signatory to

02:14:11.960 --> 02:14:16.520
delegate that same power delegated to them to

02:14:16.520 --> 02:14:20.079
other people okay so let's break this down just

02:14:20.079 --> 02:14:23.359
a little bit more instead of or we're going to

02:14:23.359 --> 02:14:29.170
put a slash and then i think that will be You

02:14:29.170 --> 02:14:31.449
know, instead of making this red authorized signatory,

02:14:31.649 --> 02:14:34.689
I'm going to make it, I'm going to underline

02:14:34.689 --> 02:14:36.829
it. Because that's going to be where it becomes

02:14:36.829 --> 02:14:41.430
clear what the power is. For such purposes and

02:14:41.430 --> 02:14:46.090
within such powers. Discretions. I'm going to

02:14:46.090 --> 02:14:49.449
strike this. Because they really just use it

02:14:49.449 --> 02:14:53.750
to talk about the limitation. That's red, isn't

02:14:53.750 --> 02:15:03.079
it? Yes, it is. There we go. Okay. I think we've

02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:07.699
arrived now. The directors, made by power of

02:15:07.699 --> 02:15:16.119
attorney, appoint any company, firm, body, person,

02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:22.119
sorry, appoint any company, firm, person, body

02:15:22.119 --> 02:15:24.979
of persons to be the attorney or authorized signatory

02:15:24.979 --> 02:15:29.590
of the company. and may also authorize any such

02:15:29.590 --> 02:15:34.350
attorney or authorized signatory to delegate

02:15:34.350 --> 02:15:39.529
those authorities and discretion, authorities

02:15:39.529 --> 02:15:42.609
vested in them. See how we just cut that down?

02:15:42.710 --> 02:15:47.630
So this director, and highlighted green, may

02:15:47.630 --> 02:15:49.390
by power of attorney, which is a key phrase,

02:15:49.689 --> 02:15:53.989
appoint, so they may do that, appointing any,

02:15:54.050 --> 02:15:59.579
basically anybody, to be the attorney or authorized

02:15:59.579 --> 02:16:02.300
signatory. Now, the only place authorized signatory

02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:08.319
pops up is PDF. You got to take it by itself.

02:16:09.699 --> 02:16:15.840
Pops open as the person who was the first subscriber

02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:20.859
and brought the company into existence. So the

02:16:20.859 --> 02:16:25.590
directors may reappoint a subscriber. As an authorized

02:16:25.590 --> 02:16:29.789
signatory to do things. And in this case, the

02:16:29.789 --> 02:16:33.389
authorized signatory was a very, very important

02:16:33.389 --> 02:16:40.469
person to the Star Atlas Foundation. Okay? And

02:16:40.469 --> 02:16:45.969
may do that of the foundation company and may

02:16:45.969 --> 02:16:50.969
also authorize that same person to delegate,

02:16:51.350 --> 02:16:55.850
to be able to delegate it to other people. persons,

02:16:55.870 --> 02:16:58.409
body persons, company firms. All right, so that's

02:16:58.409 --> 02:17:01.350
how you break that down from this big, huge,

02:17:01.409 --> 02:17:09.569
indecipherable wall of text into bam. You start

02:17:09.569 --> 02:17:13.190
deleting things that are parentheses. You start

02:17:13.190 --> 02:17:17.530
highlighting people. You start finding key phrases

02:17:17.530 --> 02:17:20.709
like power of attorney. And then you start, you

02:17:20.709 --> 02:17:24.350
mark up all of the verbs, point, authorize, delegate.

02:17:24.870 --> 02:17:28.510
Because the people plus the nouns plus the verbs

02:17:28.510 --> 02:17:32.450
equals the authority, the actions. Right? That's

02:17:32.450 --> 02:17:34.430
what you're after to try and decipher this stuff.

02:17:34.750 --> 02:17:37.069
That was cool. That was a cool deviation. I don't

02:17:37.069 --> 02:17:40.889
mind that one. That's going to be over three

02:17:40.889 --> 02:17:45.250
hours at this point, I think. Yeah. I think we're

02:17:45.250 --> 02:17:51.709
not going to make it before three hours. But

02:17:51.709 --> 02:17:56.159
that was fun. So that was section 18. All right,

02:17:56.159 --> 02:18:00.879
so let's go back where we left off. All right,

02:18:00.899 --> 02:18:03.620
so we just read through that whole thing. Section

02:18:03.620 --> 02:18:12.100
18 here. So we're going to keep going now. Section

02:18:12.100 --> 02:18:14.319
19. The directors may from time to time provide

02:18:14.319 --> 02:18:16.540
for the management of the affairs of the foundation

02:18:16.540 --> 02:18:18.979
company in such manner as they think fit. And

02:18:18.979 --> 02:18:21.260
the provisions contained in the three next following

02:18:21.260 --> 02:18:23.399
articles shall not limit the general powers conferred

02:18:23.399 --> 02:18:28.479
by this article. Okay. Let's go back to our interpretation

02:18:28.479 --> 02:18:30.819
slide. I want to point something out. They say

02:18:30.819 --> 02:18:34.299
this again in section 19. May from time to time

02:18:34.299 --> 02:18:36.860
and at any time. That just means whenever they

02:18:36.860 --> 02:18:39.860
want. Whether under seal or under hand. Seal

02:18:39.860 --> 02:18:43.040
means stamp. Hand means what signature? I guess

02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:47.059
electronic signature now. Whether nominated directly

02:18:47.059 --> 02:18:50.719
or indirectly. Indirectly by the directors. I

02:18:50.719 --> 02:18:52.700
guess that means the director can, by proxy,

02:18:52.879 --> 02:18:57.020
say, like, hey, secretary, I authorize you to

02:18:57.020 --> 02:19:00.760
go nominate someone. So that would be indirectly

02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:06.219
nominating through someone else. Okay. Any such

02:19:06.219 --> 02:19:08.280
person be an attorney or authorized signatory.

02:19:09.579 --> 02:19:12.780
That makes me think that this is defined somewhere.

02:19:14.059 --> 02:19:19.780
Let's maybe take a look at... That's Sandow 56,

02:19:20.120 --> 02:19:24.979
which was our reading of the law. I'm doing a

02:19:24.979 --> 02:19:29.020
search there. I don't see anything about authorization.

02:19:29.360 --> 02:19:32.819
So I don't think that's the thing. And the company's,

02:19:32.819 --> 02:19:37.200
the foundation company's law, the foundation

02:19:37.200 --> 02:19:39.540
company's act or the company's act, either one.

02:19:39.760 --> 02:19:43.120
Okay. Anyways, but this, this print in parentheses,

02:19:43.299 --> 02:19:46.020
excuse me, in quotations here. Makes it seem

02:19:46.020 --> 02:19:48.600
like it's defined somewhere, but it wasn't. So

02:19:48.600 --> 02:19:51.799
I don't know. And then here, this big one that

02:19:51.799 --> 02:19:54.559
I deleted. Not exceeding those vested in or exercisable

02:19:54.559 --> 02:19:56.959
by the directors under these articles. Okay?

02:19:57.000 --> 02:20:01.479
So that was what we're going over right now here

02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:07.799
in section under the directors chapter, sections

02:20:07.799 --> 02:20:10.500
13 through now we're at 19. All right, so those

02:20:10.500 --> 02:20:15.899
are, that's the vested authority. Okay? And then,

02:20:15.899 --> 02:20:18.440
and for such period and subject to the conditions

02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:21.159
as they may think fit. So however long they want

02:20:21.159 --> 02:20:24.299
and under whatever parameters they want. Like

02:20:24.299 --> 02:20:26.719
you may do all of my powers except for this power.

02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:30.100
And any such power of attorney or other appointment

02:20:30.100 --> 02:20:32.500
may contain such provisions for the protection

02:20:32.500 --> 02:20:35.059
and convenience of the person's dealing with.

02:20:35.180 --> 02:20:38.120
The person's dealing with is the director, by

02:20:38.120 --> 02:20:42.520
the way. So, I mean, that's just saying, that's

02:20:42.520 --> 02:20:46.059
just giving the... Director the power to appoint

02:20:46.059 --> 02:20:49.600
and authorize and delegate whenever they want,

02:20:49.659 --> 02:20:51.680
however they want, and whatever limitations they

02:20:51.680 --> 02:20:55.700
want. That's all I deleted. That's the extra

02:20:55.700 --> 02:21:03.000
stuff. Okay. All right, let's get back to section

02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:06.379
20 now. The directors from time to time at any

02:21:06.379 --> 02:21:09.360
time may establish any committees, local boards,

02:21:09.360 --> 02:21:11.920
or agencies for managing. Any of the affairs

02:21:11.920 --> 02:21:14.479
of the company and may appoint any person to

02:21:14.479 --> 02:21:17.180
be a member of any such committees or local boards

02:21:17.180 --> 02:21:19.819
and may appoint any managers or agents of the

02:21:19.819 --> 02:21:21.600
foundation company and may fix the remuneration

02:21:21.600 --> 02:21:25.600
of any such person. Any committee so formed shall

02:21:25.600 --> 02:21:28.760
exercise, shall in the exercise of the power

02:21:28.760 --> 02:21:32.340
so delegated pursuant to Article 21 conform to

02:21:32.340 --> 02:21:33.940
any regulations that may be imposed on it by

02:21:33.940 --> 02:21:36.659
the directors. This is fascinating. This is the

02:21:36.659 --> 02:21:38.700
first time. Oops, you can't see what I'm doing.

02:21:39.389 --> 02:21:40.770
This is the first time I'm seeing something like

02:21:40.770 --> 02:21:43.969
this. I think what I just read here in section

02:21:43.969 --> 02:21:49.770
20 is what the Star Atlas Council is under. I

02:21:49.770 --> 02:21:54.649
don't know. So let's find out. All right, so

02:21:54.649 --> 02:21:59.829
now we're in question nine. Is this section talking

02:21:59.829 --> 02:22:07.530
how Star Atlas Council... Is this section what...

02:22:08.940 --> 02:22:16.700
The Star Atlas Council is formed under a local

02:22:16.700 --> 02:22:21.299
board. All right, so that's become its own new

02:22:21.299 --> 02:22:23.379
key phrase. I've never seen that language before.

02:22:23.879 --> 02:22:29.620
Is a local board the Star Atlas Council? That's

02:22:29.620 --> 02:22:34.559
kind of cool. That gives them powers that the

02:22:34.559 --> 02:22:38.440
Sandbox Foundation does not give. It's special

02:22:38.440 --> 02:22:42.200
counsel. All right, and then it says, look at

02:22:42.200 --> 02:22:45.180
Article 21 to see how these powers should be

02:22:45.180 --> 02:22:51.059
executed. Okay, and let's look at 21. The directors

02:22:51.059 --> 02:22:53.280
from time to time and at any time may delegate

02:22:53.280 --> 02:22:55.659
to any such committee, local board manager, or

02:22:55.659 --> 02:22:57.819
agent any of the powers, authorities, or discretions

02:22:57.819 --> 02:23:00.899
for the time being vested in the directors. Whoa.

02:23:01.180 --> 02:23:03.459
And may authorize the members from time to time

02:23:03.459 --> 02:23:05.719
being of any such committee, local board manager,

02:23:05.860 --> 02:23:09.379
or agent. to fill any vacancies therein, and

02:23:09.379 --> 02:23:12.040
to act notwithstanding vacancies, and any such

02:23:12.040 --> 02:23:14.840
appointment or delegation may be made on such

02:23:14.840 --> 02:23:17.299
terms and subject to such conditions as the directors

02:23:17.299 --> 02:23:20.620
may think fit, and the directors may at any time

02:23:20.620 --> 02:23:23.360
remove any person so appointed, and may annul,

02:23:23.399 --> 02:23:26.780
which means cancel, or vary any such delegation,

02:23:27.079 --> 02:23:29.940
but no person dealing in good faith and without

02:23:29.940 --> 02:23:33.260
notice of any such annulment or variation shall

02:23:33.260 --> 02:23:37.920
be affected thereby. Okay, this is a, whoa. This

02:23:37.920 --> 02:23:41.559
is a good one. This is a powerful, powerful section.

02:23:49.879 --> 02:23:56.920
Page are we on? Page nine. Holy smokes. Okay.

02:23:57.979 --> 02:24:02.219
Let's slow down on this one. This should have

02:24:02.219 --> 02:24:03.559
been the one I interpreted the interpretation

02:24:03.559 --> 02:24:07.379
of. In fact, let's do that one in real time.

02:24:07.819 --> 02:24:16.479
All right, let's do that. Section 22. Or 21,

02:24:16.600 --> 02:24:23.479
excuse me. We're on page 9 of the Articles of

02:24:23.479 --> 02:24:27.020
Association. All right, we're going to do this

02:24:27.020 --> 02:24:29.940
for section 21 because this seems super duper

02:24:29.940 --> 02:24:34.750
important. Okay. We're going to do the same thing

02:24:34.750 --> 02:24:39.290
we just did. The directors. That is a person.

02:24:39.489 --> 02:24:41.850
So we're going to highlight them. From time to

02:24:41.850 --> 02:24:45.870
time and any time. In consequence to what we're

02:24:45.870 --> 02:24:48.389
after. So we're going to delete that. They delegate.

02:24:48.610 --> 02:24:51.370
That is an action verb. So it gets to be read.

02:24:52.090 --> 02:24:55.290
To any such committee, local board manager, or

02:24:55.290 --> 02:24:57.530
agent. Those are people now. So that's going

02:24:57.530 --> 02:25:01.670
to be highlighted green. Oh, and we need to update

02:25:01.670 --> 02:25:06.469
the question to. Not just that, but also... Is

02:25:06.469 --> 02:25:11.510
it a local board or committee? That's what we

02:25:11.510 --> 02:25:15.430
wanted. It could be either one. Is the SAR Atlas

02:25:15.430 --> 02:25:17.469
Council one of those? Because if so, they're

02:25:17.469 --> 02:25:21.709
being formed under Section 21 of the Articles

02:25:21.709 --> 02:25:24.010
of Association. That's the first time I've seen

02:25:24.010 --> 02:25:28.969
something like that. Any of the powers, authorities,

02:25:29.250 --> 02:25:34.200
and discretions? May delegate to any such committee,

02:25:34.360 --> 02:25:37.399
local board, manager, any of the powers, authorities,

02:25:37.520 --> 02:25:40.420
and discretions. That seems like a key phrase,

02:25:40.540 --> 02:25:43.520
so we're going to mark that blue. Because that's

02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:52.559
what you do. Green is who. Red is how. And blue

02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:56.420
is what. The director delegated to the committee

02:25:56.420 --> 02:25:59.659
all of these powers. Okay? For the time being.

02:26:00.170 --> 02:26:02.510
Vested in the directors. Okay, that just means

02:26:02.510 --> 02:26:04.350
while the director is a director, you can vest.

02:26:04.530 --> 02:26:09.129
The director can authorize their own power. So

02:26:09.129 --> 02:26:13.209
we're going to delete that. And may authorize.

02:26:14.590 --> 02:26:16.290
Oh, wait, you know what? This is how it would

02:26:16.290 --> 02:26:19.930
make sense if I just delete this part only and

02:26:19.930 --> 02:26:22.909
said left in the directors. So vest any of the

02:26:22.909 --> 02:26:25.389
powers, authorities, and discretions in the directors.

02:26:25.850 --> 02:26:30.159
There. That makes sense. This is kind of like

02:26:30.159 --> 02:26:34.479
a key phrase, actually. So we're going to mark

02:26:34.479 --> 02:26:39.459
this blue. Okay. And may authorize the members

02:26:39.459 --> 02:26:43.139
for the time being any of such many to fill.

02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:48.059
Okay. And may authorize. And all this is just

02:26:48.059 --> 02:26:52.860
a repeat. So we're going to schwack it. Authorize

02:26:52.860 --> 02:26:59.120
is an action verb. It gets to be read. To fill

02:26:59.120 --> 02:27:03.879
any vacancies. That is a key phrase. It gets

02:27:03.879 --> 02:27:09.520
to be blue. Therein, and to act, notwithstanding

02:27:09.520 --> 02:27:15.239
vacancies. And to act. Vacancies? I don't know

02:27:15.239 --> 02:27:19.040
what that means. To fill any vacancies and to

02:27:19.040 --> 02:27:23.979
act vacancies. Notwithstanding, oh, wait a minute.

02:27:24.159 --> 02:27:27.100
We're not done yet. And to act. That needs to

02:27:27.100 --> 02:27:31.479
be a comma. notwithstanding vacancies and any

02:27:31.479 --> 02:27:37.959
such appointment or delegation. And to act. I

02:27:37.959 --> 02:27:41.340
think the comma goes there. I think that's what.

02:27:43.020 --> 02:27:45.920
On such terms and subject to such conditions.

02:27:47.819 --> 02:27:51.639
As the directors may think fit. There we go.

02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:52.819
All right, this is starting to come together.

02:27:53.139 --> 02:28:01.069
All right, so here. And to act. We can delete

02:28:01.069 --> 02:28:05.389
this part. And to act on such terms and subject

02:28:05.389 --> 02:28:08.370
to such conditions as the director may think

02:28:08.370 --> 02:28:12.129
fit. I'm going to keep this as a key phrase.

02:28:13.069 --> 02:28:15.430
And we're going to highlight the person involved.

02:28:16.190 --> 02:28:19.049
It's making more sense now. And the directors

02:28:19.049 --> 02:28:26.030
may at any time remove an annul or vary. Okay,

02:28:26.049 --> 02:28:28.200
so they can change it whenever they want. which

02:28:28.200 --> 02:28:31.319
is fine, we'll delete that. But no person dealing

02:28:31.319 --> 02:28:33.620
in good faith and without notice of any such

02:28:33.620 --> 02:28:36.299
annulment or variation shall be affected thereby.

02:28:36.760 --> 02:28:41.299
But no person dealing in good faith and without

02:28:41.299 --> 02:28:45.120
notice. Oh, this is saying that if they're not

02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:48.799
given proper notice of that annulment, then they're

02:28:48.799 --> 02:28:52.420
not affected. So if the director just decides,

02:28:52.559 --> 02:28:54.100
hey, I'm going to fire you, but doesn't tell

02:28:54.100 --> 02:28:57.870
them. and that person is still acting in good

02:28:57.870 --> 02:29:00.790
faith in the authority, that annulment did not

02:29:00.790 --> 02:29:03.190
happen. That firing did not happen unless they're

02:29:03.190 --> 02:29:08.049
properly notified. Okay, that's good. Not important

02:29:08.049 --> 02:29:11.450
for what we're after here. I mean, it kind of

02:29:11.450 --> 02:29:15.510
is. I mean, it's there, so why not? It's kind

02:29:15.510 --> 02:29:21.049
of like an aside. There. Dealing in good faith

02:29:21.049 --> 02:29:26.559
is a key phrase. Shall be affected. Key phrase.

02:29:26.959 --> 02:29:31.719
There we go. Okay. So let's bring that one over

02:29:31.719 --> 02:29:36.760
to our right -hand side. Shrack away the stuff.

02:29:38.319 --> 02:29:42.159
Look at this. Look at this. Cool. That is cool.

02:29:42.540 --> 02:29:45.200
The directors may delegate to any such committee,

02:29:45.360 --> 02:29:47.639
local board, manager, or agent. All right, let's

02:29:47.639 --> 02:29:53.059
do our little... Like that. There we go. The

02:29:53.059 --> 02:29:54.959
directors may delegate to any such committee,

02:29:55.120 --> 02:29:58.239
local board, manager, agent, any of the powers,

02:29:58.299 --> 02:30:03.299
authorities, and discretions in the directors

02:30:03.299 --> 02:30:06.879
and may authorize to fill any vacancies therein

02:30:06.879 --> 02:30:11.719
and to act on such terms and subject to such

02:30:11.719 --> 02:30:16.520
conditions as the directors may think fit. No

02:30:16.520 --> 02:30:18.180
person dealing in good faith shall be affected.

02:30:19.420 --> 02:30:23.090
Cool. Cool. Well, that makes sense. So the director

02:30:23.090 --> 02:30:26.590
can delegate to anybody, and they may authorize

02:30:26.590 --> 02:30:29.750
that same person to fill vacancies. So they can

02:30:29.750 --> 02:30:32.930
have that director hire members, officers, or

02:30:32.930 --> 02:30:39.329
whatever. That's pretty cool. All right. Section

02:30:39.329 --> 02:30:41.629
22. The directors may from time to time appoint

02:30:41.629 --> 02:30:43.750
any person, whether or not a director, to hold

02:30:43.750 --> 02:30:45.770
such office in the company as the directors may

02:30:45.770 --> 02:30:48.030
think necessary for the administration of the

02:30:48.030 --> 02:30:50.090
company, including but not limited to the office

02:30:50.090 --> 02:30:51.829
of the president. one or more vice presidents,

02:30:51.989 --> 02:30:54.270
treasurers, assistant treasurer, manager, or

02:30:54.270 --> 02:30:58.690
controller for such term and at such remuneration,

02:30:58.889 --> 02:31:02.450
remuneration means salary or compensation, whether

02:31:02.450 --> 02:31:04.530
by way of salary or commission or participation

02:31:04.530 --> 02:31:07.770
in profits or partly in one way and partly in

02:31:07.770 --> 02:31:11.190
another, okay? Which means could we go either

02:31:11.190 --> 02:31:14.090
way or both? And with such powers and duties

02:31:14.090 --> 02:31:16.629
as the directors may think fit, any person so

02:31:16.629 --> 02:31:18.790
appointed by directors may be removed by the

02:31:18.790 --> 02:31:23.010
directors. The directors may appoint one or more

02:31:23.010 --> 02:31:25.770
of their member to the office of managing director

02:31:25.770 --> 02:31:28.569
upon like terms, but any such appointment shall

02:31:28.569 --> 02:31:35.489
ipso facto, which means if then therefore, kind

02:31:35.489 --> 02:31:40.170
of like terminate if any managing director ceases

02:31:40.170 --> 02:31:44.090
from any cause to be a director, or if the directors

02:31:44.090 --> 02:31:46.469
resolve that their tenure of office shall be

02:31:46.469 --> 02:31:48.430
terminated. This kind of has like a Lord of the

02:31:48.430 --> 02:31:52.409
Rings, one ring to rule them all vibe. The director

02:31:52.409 --> 02:31:55.989
who appoints other directors may revoke and remove

02:31:55.989 --> 02:31:58.170
those directors. So it doesn't seem like those

02:31:58.170 --> 02:31:59.690
directors that have been appointed can remove

02:31:59.690 --> 02:32:01.370
the original director. So it's kind of like the

02:32:01.370 --> 02:32:05.629
Ring of Sauron sort of thing. Section 23. Any

02:32:05.629 --> 02:32:08.309
such delegates, as aforesaid, may be authorized

02:32:08.309 --> 02:32:11.969
by the directors to subdelegate all or any of

02:32:11.969 --> 02:32:14.350
the powers, authorities, and discretion for the

02:32:14.350 --> 02:32:17.340
time being vested in them. Sub delegate is a

02:32:17.340 --> 02:32:20.540
interesting word. It only appears once. Let's

02:32:20.540 --> 02:32:23.680
take out this attack there. Dash. Nope. Just

02:32:23.680 --> 02:32:29.139
there. Sub delegate. Sub delegate. You know what

02:32:29.139 --> 02:32:33.340
I want to know? This is just a gee whiz question.

02:32:34.979 --> 02:32:41.239
Why does sub delegate. Delete. Delegate only

02:32:41.239 --> 02:32:47.190
appear once. Aren't we sub. Delegating in section

02:32:47.190 --> 02:32:59.049
23 and all other may at any time appoint statements.

02:32:59.450 --> 02:33:02.989
That's just a gee whiz. It's not super important.

02:33:03.110 --> 02:33:06.829
It's just interesting to me how they choose some

02:33:06.829 --> 02:33:09.209
statements here, some words there, and not words

02:33:09.209 --> 02:33:11.170
that are everywhere else. I want to know about

02:33:11.170 --> 02:33:19.700
that. This is page nine. Section 22. Okay. And

02:33:19.700 --> 02:33:24.420
reference section... Not yet. All right. Section

02:33:24.420 --> 02:33:28.680
24. The director shall observe these... Section

02:33:28.680 --> 02:33:30.440
24. The director shall observe these articles

02:33:30.440 --> 02:33:32.819
and the bylaws and shall at all times act in

02:33:32.819 --> 02:33:35.440
the interest of the foundation company and its

02:33:35.440 --> 02:33:38.940
objects. Okay. That sounds like a fiduciary statement.

02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:45.969
Did we already have the fiduciary question? Yeah.

02:33:45.969 --> 02:33:49.510
So then we're going to say MOA, uh, the articles

02:33:49.510 --> 02:33:58.590
association reference section 25 or 24 page 10.

02:34:08.909 --> 02:34:10.950
It would be more fun if this document replaced

02:34:10.950 --> 02:34:13.049
director with Sauron and just made this known

02:34:13.049 --> 02:34:19.250
in the definitions. See, that was good. That

02:34:19.250 --> 02:34:25.030
was really good. I like that. Siggy, I like you.

02:34:31.489 --> 02:34:38.069
Give me a second. I wasn't expecting you to say

02:34:38.069 --> 02:34:49.549
that. Back to reading. Well done, Siggy. Well

02:34:49.549 --> 02:34:56.069
done. Well done, lad. All right, where was I?

02:34:56.610 --> 02:34:59.770
Section 25. The director shall give to the general

02:34:59.770 --> 02:35:02.409
meeting or the persons who have the right to,

02:35:02.409 --> 02:35:05.549
I think, attend. It's blocked by the top right

02:35:05.549 --> 02:35:08.430
stamp, but the right to attend the general meeting.

02:35:08.870 --> 02:35:11.549
Such reports, accounts, information, and explanations

02:35:11.549 --> 02:35:14.069
concerning the business and affairs of the foundation

02:35:14.069 --> 02:35:16.649
company and the discharge of the director's duties

02:35:16.649 --> 02:35:19.329
and the exercise of their powers as may be required

02:35:19.329 --> 02:35:21.569
by an ordinary resolution of the foundation company.

02:35:22.290 --> 02:35:25.489
Ordinary resolution was, if I recall, just a

02:35:25.489 --> 02:35:30.889
simple majority, right? Greater than 50 %? Resolution

02:35:30.889 --> 02:35:34.729
passed by a simple majority, yeah. And then special

02:35:34.729 --> 02:35:40.879
resolution means two -thirds. Section 26. The

02:35:40.879 --> 02:35:42.760
duties of the directors are owed to the foundation

02:35:42.760 --> 02:35:45.559
company only. Section 27. Directors remuneration,

02:35:45.659 --> 02:35:48.280
which means salary compensation, shall be at

02:35:48.280 --> 02:35:50.780
such rates and on such terms as may be agreed

02:35:50.780 --> 02:35:53.959
by directors resolutions. Section 28. A director

02:35:53.959 --> 02:35:57.079
who is in any way, whether directly or indirectly,

02:35:57.299 --> 02:36:00.639
interested in a contract or proposed contract

02:36:00.639 --> 02:36:03.500
with the foundation company shall declare the

02:36:03.500 --> 02:36:06.120
nature of his interest at the meetings of the

02:36:06.120 --> 02:36:09.610
directors. Awesome. A general notice given to

02:36:09.610 --> 02:36:13.530
the directors by any director to the effect that

02:36:13.530 --> 02:36:16.450
he is to be regarded as interested in any contract

02:36:16.450 --> 02:36:19.790
or other arrangement which may thereafter be

02:36:19.790 --> 02:36:22.829
made with that company or firm shall be deemed

02:36:22.829 --> 02:36:26.049
a sufficient declaration of interest in regard

02:36:26.049 --> 02:36:28.889
to any contract so made. A director may vote

02:36:28.889 --> 02:36:32.250
in respect of any contract or proposed contract

02:36:32.250 --> 02:36:35.360
or arrangement notwithstanding. that he may be

02:36:35.360 --> 02:36:38.239
interested therein, and if he does so, his vote

02:36:38.239 --> 02:36:41.299
shall be counted, and he may be counted in the

02:36:41.299 --> 02:36:43.959
quorum at any meeting of the directors at which

02:36:43.959 --> 02:36:46.479
any such contract or proposed contract or arrangement

02:36:46.479 --> 02:36:48.819
shall come before the meeting for consideration.

02:36:49.360 --> 02:36:54.200
Holy shite. That is awesome. That is one of the

02:36:54.200 --> 02:36:57.200
deepest cutting conflict of interest statements.

02:36:58.520 --> 02:37:02.139
Cool. I like that. This is a good disclosure.

02:37:02.360 --> 02:37:04.590
So this is requiring the director. if they have

02:37:04.590 --> 02:37:08.469
a conflict of interest or if they have a financial

02:37:08.469 --> 02:37:15.850
interest, must and is required to make that known

02:37:15.850 --> 02:37:18.290
at a general meeting. So disclosure. So when

02:37:18.290 --> 02:37:20.969
I made disclosures earlier on this slide over

02:37:20.969 --> 02:37:29.790
here, where I made a disclosure here that I was

02:37:29.790 --> 02:37:34.610
running for election number two, that. That sentence

02:37:34.610 --> 02:37:37.989
that we just read basically said the director

02:37:37.989 --> 02:37:44.350
must disclose things. That's cool. I like that.

02:37:44.889 --> 02:37:49.149
I like that a lot. Yeah. Let's look at this middle

02:37:49.149 --> 02:37:52.469
part. A director may vote in respect of any contract

02:37:52.469 --> 02:37:56.629
or proposed contract, notwithstanding that he

02:37:56.629 --> 02:37:59.030
may be interested therein. And if he does, so

02:37:59.030 --> 02:38:01.129
his vote should be counted. A general notice

02:38:01.129 --> 02:38:04.780
given to directors. To the effect that he is

02:38:04.780 --> 02:38:07.360
to be regarded as interested in any contract,

02:38:07.500 --> 02:38:11.940
which may thereafter be made the company or firm

02:38:11.940 --> 02:38:14.360
shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of interest.

02:38:14.559 --> 02:38:17.719
Okay, so once they disclose, then they can continue

02:38:17.719 --> 02:38:19.540
about their business. So even though there is

02:38:19.540 --> 02:38:21.520
a conflict of interest there, they're still allowed

02:38:21.520 --> 02:38:25.479
to do, vote, be the thing that they want to do.

02:38:26.459 --> 02:38:30.360
Okay, 29. A director may hold any other office

02:38:30.360 --> 02:38:32.620
or place of profit under the foundation company.

02:38:33.159 --> 02:39:03.549
Other than the office of auditor. or on behalf

02:39:03.549 --> 02:39:05.649
of the foundation company in which any director

02:39:05.649 --> 02:39:08.510
is in any way interested, be liable or be avoided,

02:39:08.709 --> 02:39:11.329
nor shall any director so contracting or being

02:39:11.329 --> 02:39:14.989
so interested be liable to account to the foundation

02:39:14.989 --> 02:39:17.409
company for any profit realized by any such contract

02:39:17.409 --> 02:39:19.829
or arrangement by reason of such director holding

02:39:19.829 --> 02:39:23.049
the office or of by fiduciary relation thereby

02:39:23.049 --> 02:39:26.889
established. A director notwithstanding his interest

02:39:26.889 --> 02:39:30.350
may be counted in the quorum present at any meeting

02:39:30.350 --> 02:39:33.819
of the directors whereat. he or any other director

02:39:33.819 --> 02:39:37.920
is appointed to hold any such office or place

02:39:37.920 --> 02:39:40.559
of profit under the foundation company, or whereat

02:39:40.559 --> 02:39:42.920
the terms of any such appointment are arranged,

02:39:43.059 --> 02:39:46.840
and he may vote on any such appointment or arrangement.

02:39:47.299 --> 02:39:51.100
Okay, I think this is kind of a... I think they're

02:39:51.100 --> 02:39:54.719
right here in the second sentence. Or the second

02:39:54.719 --> 02:40:00.000
part. A director may hold any other office under

02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:02.309
a foundation company. conjunction with his office

02:40:02.309 --> 02:40:07.190
okay so he can be both a director and a supervisor

02:40:07.190 --> 02:40:11.049
sounds like and on such term as the director

02:40:11.049 --> 02:40:13.430
may determine so they can determine themselves

02:40:13.430 --> 02:40:17.969
okay and no director or intending director shall

02:40:17.969 --> 02:40:20.290
be disqualified from his office from contracting

02:40:20.290 --> 02:40:22.989
with the foundation company either with regard

02:40:22.989 --> 02:40:25.889
to his tenure okay so even um even if there is

02:40:25.889 --> 02:40:27.450
a conflict of interest they're saying that that's

02:40:27.450 --> 02:40:29.750
okay here that's what i'm reading out of section

02:40:29.750 --> 02:40:32.440
29 Conflict of interest may exist, they just

02:40:32.440 --> 02:40:33.979
have to disclose it, and once they disclose it,

02:40:34.059 --> 02:40:36.260
they're good. They can continue to have a conflict

02:40:36.260 --> 02:40:38.780
of interest and still operate as the director.

02:40:40.680 --> 02:40:42.440
And there's a lot of protections here, so they're

02:40:42.440 --> 02:40:45.879
not liable for a whole bunch of stuff. Section

02:40:45.879 --> 02:40:49.159
30. Any director may act by himself or in his

02:40:49.159 --> 02:40:50.979
firm in a professional capacity for the foundation

02:40:50.979 --> 02:40:53.959
company, and he is or his firm shall be entitled

02:40:53.959 --> 02:40:56.100
to remuneration for professional services as

02:40:56.100 --> 02:40:58.909
if he were not a director. provided that nothing

02:40:58.909 --> 02:41:01.750
herein contained shall authorize a director or

02:41:01.750 --> 02:41:04.270
his firm to act as an auditor to the foundation

02:41:04.270 --> 02:41:08.569
company. An auditor is a person who is designated,

02:41:08.690 --> 02:41:11.750
I think, by the courts, or can be designated

02:41:11.750 --> 02:41:17.090
by a non -course, a foundation company, to inspect,

02:41:17.329 --> 02:41:22.129
like an appointed auditor. So this is saying

02:41:22.129 --> 02:41:24.889
that the director can be any other role they

02:41:24.889 --> 02:41:27.590
want except for an auditor. Okay, good to go.

02:41:28.190 --> 02:41:31.850
Next section is supervisors. Section 31. The

02:41:31.850 --> 02:41:34.750
first supervisor is DS Limited. What is that?

02:41:36.770 --> 02:41:44.889
Who is that? What or who is DS Limited? Okay,

02:41:44.889 --> 02:41:51.110
that seems like a person. Page 10. We're at 11

02:41:51.110 --> 02:41:57.420
now. Section 31. Yeah, I don't know. I never

02:41:57.420 --> 02:42:01.620
heard of that. Sounds like a person, so we'll

02:42:01.620 --> 02:42:06.739
highlight him green. Okay. The directors, section

02:42:06.739 --> 02:42:08.659
32, the directors have the power exercisable

02:42:08.659 --> 02:42:10.540
by director's resolution to appoint or remove

02:42:10.540 --> 02:42:13.379
supervisors. Section 33, the director's resolution

02:42:13.379 --> 02:42:17.680
appoint a supervisor may, section 33A, give the

02:42:17.680 --> 02:42:19.959
supervisor rights to remuneration or indemnity

02:42:19.959 --> 02:42:24.079
by the foundation company. Indemnity. Section

02:42:24.079 --> 02:42:26.959
33B, provide for the termination of the supervisor's

02:42:26.959 --> 02:42:31.180
appointment at a specified time. This unreadable

02:42:31.180 --> 02:42:34.360
word there, and it ends with specified circumstances.

02:42:35.340 --> 02:42:38.680
Section 34, a person ceases to be a supervisor.

02:42:39.479 --> 02:42:42.579
When, section 34A, if the person dies or becomes

02:42:42.579 --> 02:42:45.379
bankrupt or being a corporation, enters into

02:42:45.379 --> 02:42:48.739
winding up or is dissolved. Section 34B, if the

02:42:48.739 --> 02:42:50.959
person resigns as supervisor by notice to his

02:42:50.959 --> 02:42:53.659
foundation company. Resignation shall be effective

02:42:53.659 --> 02:42:56.479
immediately unless the notice states otherwise.

02:42:57.700 --> 02:43:00.299
Section 34c. If the person becomes a director

02:43:00.299 --> 02:43:02.479
or acquires any interest or duty that conflicts

02:43:02.479 --> 02:43:04.399
with any duty of the person as a supervisor,

02:43:04.600 --> 02:43:07.020
unless authorized by the directors or by a special

02:43:07.020 --> 02:43:10.399
resolution of the foundation company. Section

02:43:10.399 --> 02:43:13.940
34d. As provided in the person's term of appointment

02:43:13.940 --> 02:43:19.620
as a supervisor. Or section 34e. If removed in

02:43:19.620 --> 02:43:22.719
accordance with these articles. Looking at the

02:43:22.719 --> 02:43:24.399
chat. Siggy, are you talking about indemnity?

02:43:26.340 --> 02:43:29.219
Indemnity, in legal and insurance context, refers

02:43:29.219 --> 02:43:31.459
to a contractual obligation where one party,

02:43:31.579 --> 02:43:34.299
the indemnitor, promises to compensate another

02:43:34.299 --> 02:43:37.819
party, the indemnity, for losses or damages often

02:43:37.819 --> 02:43:40.100
arising from a specified event or activity, like

02:43:40.100 --> 02:43:43.760
in the court of law. The word I could not read?

02:43:44.920 --> 02:43:55.370
Let's go back. Oh. That. Is smart. Man, Siggy,

02:43:55.450 --> 02:44:00.030
you are. Provided for the termination of the

02:44:00.030 --> 02:44:02.290
supervisor's appointment at a specified time

02:44:02.290 --> 02:44:06.909
or in specified circumstances. Okay. Provided

02:44:06.909 --> 02:44:11.110
for the termination of the supervisor's appointment

02:44:11.110 --> 02:44:16.010
at a specified time or in specified circumstances.

02:44:18.030 --> 02:44:22.510
Look at you, Siggy. What a pro. You are a professional,

02:44:22.590 --> 02:44:25.450
my man. Thank you. I didn't even think about

02:44:25.450 --> 02:44:34.629
that. Okay. 34. C. A person ceases to be a supervisor

02:44:34.629 --> 02:44:36.909
if the person becomes a director or acquires

02:44:36.909 --> 02:44:39.209
any interest or duty that conflicts with any

02:44:39.209 --> 02:44:41.809
duty of the person as a supervisor, unless authorized

02:44:41.809 --> 02:44:44.190
by the directors or by a special resolution of

02:44:44.190 --> 02:44:47.170
the special foundation company. Why is that the

02:44:47.170 --> 02:44:49.389
only... Wait, what? Hold on. That doesn't make

02:44:49.389 --> 02:44:53.270
any sense. So the director doesn't have a conflict

02:44:53.270 --> 02:44:59.750
of interest, but a supervisor does. Why seems

02:44:59.750 --> 02:45:03.969
to be a conflicting, not conflicting, what's

02:45:03.969 --> 02:45:06.530
it called where one person's allowed to do something,

02:45:06.590 --> 02:45:09.469
but the other person's not? Do as I see, not

02:45:09.469 --> 02:45:17.350
as I do type thing. Do as I say, not as I do.

02:45:18.950 --> 02:45:23.409
contradiction between the conflict of interest

02:45:23.409 --> 02:45:30.569
rules of supervisor and director. All right.

02:45:30.610 --> 02:45:42.409
So supervisor would be section 34 C. So if the

02:45:42.409 --> 02:45:46.200
supervisor becomes a director, then They cease

02:45:46.200 --> 02:45:48.479
to be a supervisor, but a director can be a supervisor.

02:45:50.420 --> 02:45:54.680
So that would be section 29. So it's kind of

02:45:54.680 --> 02:45:59.139
like a big double standard. Thank you, Yuma.

02:46:01.319 --> 02:46:04.479
Double standard. There we go. Seems to be a double

02:46:04.479 --> 02:46:11.680
standard here. And director, section 34C and

02:46:11.680 --> 02:46:21.159
section 29. Supervisor can... Director can be

02:46:21.159 --> 02:46:28.219
a supervisor. Be both director and supervisor.

02:46:29.379 --> 02:46:34.979
There we go. So supervisor gets highlighted.

02:46:36.379 --> 02:46:49.399
Director gets highlighted. Ugh. Here we go. Okay.

02:46:51.879 --> 02:46:57.340
Cool. Hypocrisy, Siggy said. Yeah, that too.

02:46:57.719 --> 02:47:01.020
But legal hypocrisy is okay as long as it gets

02:47:01.020 --> 02:47:03.020
justified the right way. And that's why we call

02:47:03.020 --> 02:47:05.459
it double standard. But yeah, hypocrisy would

02:47:05.459 --> 02:47:08.659
be another word. There might be some good reasons

02:47:08.659 --> 02:47:15.489
for that, though. So we'll see. Section 34. D.

02:47:17.329 --> 02:47:19.829
A person ceases to be a supervisor as provided

02:47:19.829 --> 02:47:22.170
in the person's terms of appointment as a supervisor.

02:47:22.370 --> 02:47:25.709
Or 34E, if removed in accordance with these articles.

02:47:26.510 --> 02:47:29.690
Section 35. For such a time as the foundation

02:47:29.690 --> 02:47:31.850
company has no members, the foundation company

02:47:31.850 --> 02:47:33.209
is required to have at least one supervisor.

02:47:34.549 --> 02:47:38.309
That's required by law. If this requirement is

02:47:38.309 --> 02:47:40.489
not met, the directors shall appoint one or more

02:47:40.489 --> 02:47:42.729
supervisors on such terms as it think fits to

02:47:42.729 --> 02:47:44.870
make up the shortfall. failing which the director

02:47:44.870 --> 02:47:47.069
shall apply to the court under Section 19 .2

02:47:47.069 --> 02:47:50.670
of the Foundation Companies Act. That was, like,

02:47:50.770 --> 02:47:55.889
if they need help, then they would go to Section

02:47:55.889 --> 02:48:00.450
19. Looks like I skipped 19. Oh, Foundation Company

02:48:00.450 --> 02:48:05.809
Act. Not the Companies Act. And Section 19 is

02:48:05.809 --> 02:48:11.700
the Grand Court's function. Yeah, so... that

02:48:11.700 --> 02:48:13.719
just talks about how the court plays a role in

02:48:13.719 --> 02:48:18.879
resolving disputes. So 19 .2, or section 19 .2

02:48:18.879 --> 02:48:21.920
of Foundation Company Act talks about resolving

02:48:21.920 --> 02:48:27.979
disputes. Okay, section 36. A supervisor, section

02:48:27.979 --> 02:48:30.819
36A, has the right to receive notice of and attend

02:48:30.819 --> 02:48:34.520
and vote at general meetings, and 36B shall observe

02:48:34.520 --> 02:48:37.100
these articles and the bylaws. All right, the

02:48:37.100 --> 02:48:40.700
first one is required. So there... They have

02:48:40.700 --> 02:48:44.319
to be given notice of and attend. Section 37.

02:48:44.700 --> 02:48:46.940
The directors in their soul and absolute discretion

02:48:46.940 --> 02:48:49.459
may provide a supervisor with copies or access

02:48:49.459 --> 02:48:51.979
to the reports, accounts, information, and explanations

02:48:51.979 --> 02:48:53.860
concerning the foundation company's business

02:48:53.860 --> 02:48:56.719
and affairs as they see fit. The supervisor otherwise

02:48:56.719 --> 02:48:58.899
has no right to request, receive any such reports,

02:48:59.100 --> 02:49:01.680
accounts, information, and or explanations. That

02:49:01.680 --> 02:49:03.719
conflicts. I think that conflicts with what the

02:49:03.719 --> 02:49:07.100
law says. All right. And we got to cite our source

02:49:07.100 --> 02:49:16.840
on this one. So. Does section 37, does the supervisors

02:49:16.840 --> 02:49:26.479
has no right to request statement conflict with

02:49:26.479 --> 02:49:30.399
CA and FCL, which is Companies Act and Foundation

02:49:30.399 --> 02:49:35.280
Companies Law. And we are referencing around

02:49:35.280 --> 02:49:46.860
page 11. Section 37. Okay. So let's pull this

02:49:46.860 --> 02:49:50.319
one apart. So CA is the company's act. Can't

02:49:50.319 --> 02:49:52.200
remember. I'll have to find out here in a second

02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:55.840
which one it is. All right. FCL is a company,

02:49:55.959 --> 02:49:59.440
foundation company law. They're saying the supervisor

02:49:59.440 --> 02:50:03.120
can be limited in what they can access. I don't

02:50:03.120 --> 02:50:06.940
remember that being what the rule is. I remember

02:50:06.940 --> 02:50:09.379
the rule being very different. that the supervisor

02:50:09.379 --> 02:50:14.260
is a must have access they're the only ones that

02:50:14.260 --> 02:50:18.000
cannot be shut out but let's take a look maybe

02:50:18.000 --> 02:50:21.700
i read that wrong all right so what i'm going

02:50:21.700 --> 02:50:27.100
to do is i'm going to show you all i still have

02:50:27.100 --> 02:50:32.120
it yes there it is section so we're at 71 let's

02:50:32.120 --> 02:50:40.489
look for look for supervisor Supervisor means

02:50:40.489 --> 02:50:42.610
a person or a member under the foundation who

02:50:42.610 --> 02:50:45.030
has an unconditional right to attend and vote

02:50:45.030 --> 02:50:47.229
at general meetings, whether or not the person

02:50:47.229 --> 02:50:51.010
has supervisory powers or duties. Yeah, so right

02:50:51.010 --> 02:50:56.409
there, the definitions of the articles. Then

02:50:56.409 --> 02:51:03.510
so we're going to reference FCL, page 5, and

02:51:03.510 --> 02:51:10.270
we're in section 2. Supervisor. So the definition

02:51:10.270 --> 02:51:12.190
of the supervisor is already talking about how

02:51:12.190 --> 02:51:14.969
they have the unconditional right. So there are

02:51:14.969 --> 02:51:19.809
no conditions. Let's keep going, because I think

02:51:19.809 --> 02:51:23.590
it gets even more. The Constitution may grant

02:51:23.590 --> 02:51:25.329
the right for a person to be a member or supervisor.

02:51:25.909 --> 02:51:29.549
The foundation company may cease to have a member,

02:51:29.709 --> 02:51:32.909
but must have at least one supervisor. So they

02:51:32.909 --> 02:51:37.010
always have to have a supervisor. Okay, keep

02:51:37.010 --> 02:51:42.260
going. And there we go. Alright, so we got what

02:51:42.260 --> 02:51:44.780
we needed out of that. I think there's a contradiction

02:51:44.780 --> 02:51:48.239
going on there, but I don't know. I'd have to

02:51:48.239 --> 02:51:53.319
ask. Section 38. The powers granted to the supervisor

02:51:53.319 --> 02:51:55.540
under these articles may only be exercised in

02:51:55.540 --> 02:51:57.159
the interest of the foundation company as objects.

02:51:57.819 --> 02:52:01.379
Section 39. Any duties of the supervisor are

02:52:01.379 --> 02:52:03.200
owed to the foundation company only. Section

02:52:03.200 --> 02:52:05.360
40. Without prejudice to their rights under the

02:52:05.360 --> 02:52:07.059
foundation company's act, and notwithstanding

02:52:07.059 --> 02:52:09.420
any other provisions of these articles, Supervisor

02:52:09.420 --> 02:52:12.020
shall have no supervisory duties whatsoever in

02:52:12.020 --> 02:52:14.000
respect of any aspect of the foundation company,

02:52:14.180 --> 02:52:17.360
including the limitation to carrying on of its

02:52:17.360 --> 02:52:19.680
objects or in respect of any actions or decisions

02:52:19.680 --> 02:52:23.040
of any directors or officers of the foundation

02:52:23.040 --> 02:52:25.959
company from time to time or any other agents,

02:52:26.079 --> 02:52:27.620
representatives, nominees, proxies, delegates.

02:52:28.879 --> 02:52:31.780
And any supervisor duties which may be implied

02:52:31.780 --> 02:52:34.020
or attributed to the supervisor under the law

02:52:34.020 --> 02:52:37.360
are hereby disapplied to the maximum extent permitted

02:52:37.360 --> 02:52:45.620
by law. Wow. Is that even permitted by law? So

02:52:45.620 --> 02:52:49.139
what we want to ask here is, to what extent does

02:52:49.139 --> 02:52:59.600
hereby this applied to the maximum extent permitted

02:52:59.600 --> 02:53:08.420
by law? To what extent is actually permitted?

02:53:08.969 --> 02:53:16.010
By law. What? Duties are allowed to be disapplied.

02:53:16.290 --> 02:53:20.489
There we go. That's what I want to know. Because

02:53:20.489 --> 02:53:28.629
the whole purpose of a supervisor is to keep

02:53:28.629 --> 02:53:33.250
everyone honest. I don't know what this is trying

02:53:33.250 --> 02:53:37.149
to say. I feel like it's trying to say they're

02:53:37.149 --> 02:53:39.340
not allowed to do anything. But the supervisor

02:53:39.340 --> 02:53:42.540
has an unconditional right to attend meetings

02:53:42.540 --> 02:53:47.239
and stuff. Lots of stuff. So I don't know what's

02:53:47.239 --> 02:53:51.559
going on there. We want to cite the same stuff.

02:53:53.020 --> 02:53:58.100
See what they say. I say they as if they're going

02:53:58.100 --> 02:54:00.360
to answer. I'll submit the questions and see.

02:54:03.559 --> 02:54:06.020
Beneficiaries, here we go. Section 41, the foundation

02:54:06.020 --> 02:54:08.579
company shall have... Shall not have any person

02:54:08.579 --> 02:54:13.639
designated as beneficiaries. Uh -oh. I want to

02:54:13.639 --> 02:54:17.379
know why. Because beneficiaries are, can be a

02:54:17.379 --> 02:54:20.260
pretty, to me, seem like a pretty important role.

02:54:22.739 --> 02:54:36.120
Why was this chosen? Why does the A say no? There

02:54:36.120 --> 02:54:38.799
we go. I just want to know why. Why is it chosen?

02:54:40.159 --> 02:54:44.500
This is page 12 now. Getting close. Section 41.

02:54:46.319 --> 02:54:48.719
Okay. An officiary definitely gets highlighted.

02:54:50.420 --> 02:54:55.600
Okay. Secretary. Section 42. First secretary

02:54:55.600 --> 02:55:00.049
is Walker's Corporate Limited. Section 43. The

02:55:00.049 --> 02:55:02.409
directors have the power exercisable by director's

02:55:02.409 --> 02:55:04.149
resolution to appoint or remove the secretary

02:55:04.149 --> 02:55:07.250
or any assistant secretary, provided always that

02:55:07.250 --> 02:55:09.629
there shall be at all times be a qualified person,

02:55:09.809 --> 02:55:11.889
as defined under the Foundation Companies Act,

02:55:12.069 --> 02:55:14.530
appointed as a secretary, and no secretary shall

02:55:14.530 --> 02:55:16.870
cease to hold office till a qualified person

02:55:16.870 --> 02:55:19.170
has been appointed in the secretary's place and

02:55:19.170 --> 02:55:21.549
the registrar has been notified. That is exactly

02:55:21.549 --> 02:55:24.389
what the law says. A secretary must be a qualified

02:55:24.389 --> 02:55:27.069
person. Qualified means certified by a SEMA.

02:55:29.100 --> 02:55:31.620
Section 44. The remuneration of the secretary

02:55:31.620 --> 02:55:34.979
shall be at such rate and on such terms as agreed

02:55:34.979 --> 02:55:38.059
in writing by the directors. Section 45. The

02:55:38.059 --> 02:55:39.739
secretary shall at all times comply with the

02:55:39.739 --> 02:55:41.979
requirements of regulatory laws of the Companies

02:55:41.979 --> 02:55:44.840
Act and shall be entitled to receive from Foundation

02:55:44.840 --> 02:55:48.600
Company and any interested person such information

02:55:48.600 --> 02:55:51.079
as the secretary may reasonably require for such

02:55:51.079 --> 02:55:55.840
compliance. Section 46. Section 16 of the Foundation

02:55:55.840 --> 02:55:58.459
Companies Act shall be observed. Okay, what was

02:55:58.459 --> 02:56:04.579
that again? Section 16 was the secretary. Foundation

02:56:04.579 --> 02:56:07.760
company shall have a qualified person. Okay,

02:56:07.840 --> 02:56:11.979
got it. General meetings. Section 47. The foundation

02:56:11.979 --> 02:56:13.899
company shall hold a general meeting when required

02:56:13.899 --> 02:56:16.639
to do so in accordance with Article 48. Section

02:56:16.639 --> 02:56:18.799
48. The secretary shall convene a general meeting

02:56:18.799 --> 02:56:25.100
of the foundation company when required to do

02:56:25.100 --> 02:56:28.940
so by written requisition of 48a. Any person

02:56:28.940 --> 02:56:30.420
who has the right to attend general meetings

02:56:30.420 --> 02:56:36.500
or 48b. The directors. Section 49. The persons

02:56:36.500 --> 02:56:38.920
who have the right to receive notice of and to

02:56:38.920 --> 02:56:41.360
attend and have one vote each at general meetings

02:56:41.360 --> 02:56:45.959
are 49a. Any members and 49b. Those supervisors.

02:56:47.940 --> 02:56:50.780
Section 50. General meetings shall be convened

02:56:50.780 --> 02:56:53.579
by not less than 21 days notice, exclusive of

02:56:53.579 --> 02:56:56.120
the day notice was served. To everyone entitled

02:56:56.120 --> 02:56:58.360
to attend, unless all persons entitled to attend

02:56:58.360 --> 02:57:02.059
agree to short notice or no notice. The notice

02:57:02.059 --> 02:57:04.540
shall state the place, day, and hour of the meeting

02:57:04.540 --> 02:57:07.440
and the general nature of the business be transacted.

02:57:09.280 --> 02:57:12.040
Section 51. The accidental omission to give notice

02:57:12.040 --> 02:57:14.459
of a general meeting to any person so entitled

02:57:14.459 --> 02:57:17.299
or to the non -receipt of a notice of a meeting

02:57:17.299 --> 02:57:18.979
shall not invalidate the proceedings at that

02:57:18.979 --> 02:57:21.379
meeting. I had a question there. Is this the

02:57:21.379 --> 02:57:23.840
same thing from Sandbox now? I had a question

02:57:23.840 --> 02:57:27.040
out of that, so I'm going to pull a question

02:57:27.040 --> 02:57:33.899
from the sandbox DAO. Actually, I haven't. All

02:57:33.899 --> 02:57:37.399
right. Okay, so here's the question I asked.

02:57:38.979 --> 02:57:43.239
Why does the accidental omission not invalidate

02:57:43.239 --> 02:57:47.159
the proceedings? There are two loopholes that

02:57:47.159 --> 02:57:50.239
I had from sandbox that still apply here in this

02:57:50.239 --> 02:57:53.200
case. Loophole one is... The meeting notice was

02:57:53.200 --> 02:57:56.059
forgotten about. Supervisor was not notified

02:57:56.059 --> 02:57:59.360
of that meeting where a supervisor was voted

02:57:59.360 --> 02:58:10.879
out. Blue poll two. A special resolution vote

02:58:10.879 --> 02:58:16.319
is held, but the founder was accidentally omitted.

02:58:17.920 --> 02:58:22.020
Because it says of any person here. Not the founder,

02:58:22.139 --> 02:58:24.479
I'm sorry, the director. If the director was

02:58:24.479 --> 02:58:26.959
accidentally omitted and the director was voted

02:58:26.959 --> 02:58:30.600
out or a special resolution vote was carried

02:58:30.600 --> 02:58:33.559
out, isn't that a loophole? Someone can just

02:58:33.559 --> 02:58:38.620
kind of shoehorn something in? Yeah. Confused

02:58:38.620 --> 02:58:45.180
about that. So, there you go. Section 52. No

02:58:45.180 --> 02:58:46.879
business shall be transacted at a general meeting

02:58:46.879 --> 02:58:49.860
unless a quorum is present in person or by proxy

02:58:49.860 --> 02:58:52.909
when the meeting... is proceeds to business quorum

02:58:52.909 --> 02:58:55.069
is a majority of the persons entitled to attend

02:58:55.069 --> 02:58:57.510
and vote okay so there there's a little bit of

02:58:57.510 --> 02:59:04.049
a catch that's good quorum requirement in section

02:59:04.049 --> 02:59:07.809
52. so even though that's still a loophole there

02:59:07.809 --> 02:59:11.250
all right 53 at any general meeting of the foundation

02:59:11.250 --> 02:59:14.549
company unless the foundation companies act or

02:59:14.549 --> 02:59:16.629
those articles otherwise provide every motion

02:59:16.629 --> 02:59:18.790
proposed shall be decided by ordinary resolution

02:59:18.790 --> 02:59:21.920
of those present in person or by proxy entitled

02:59:21.920 --> 02:59:25.120
to vote. Section 54, a resolution in writing

02:59:25.120 --> 02:59:28.420
shall be, a resolution in writing signed by all

02:59:28.420 --> 02:59:30.760
persons for the time being, tell the vote at

02:59:30.760 --> 02:59:32.860
general meetings shall be as valid and effective

02:59:32.860 --> 02:59:36.739
as if the same person, as if the same, as if

02:59:36.739 --> 02:59:38.860
the same had been passed at a general meeting

02:59:38.860 --> 02:59:42.420
of the foundation company duly being held. A

02:59:42.420 --> 02:59:45.020
journal, section 55, a journal meeting may be

02:59:45.020 --> 02:59:47.299
held and any person may participate in a meeting.

02:59:47.719 --> 02:59:49.819
By means of a conference telephone or similar

02:59:49.819 --> 02:59:54.479
communications equipment. By means of which all

02:59:54.479 --> 02:59:57.280
persons participating in the meeting are capable

02:59:57.280 --> 02:59:58.799
of hearing each other and such participation

02:59:58.799 --> 03:00:01.860
shall be deemed to constitute presence in person

03:00:01.860 --> 03:00:04.180
at the meeting. Okay. That just means they can,

03:00:04.239 --> 03:00:06.540
you know, have it in a Zoom call or a Google

03:00:06.540 --> 03:00:12.739
Meet. Proxies chapter. Section 56. Any person

03:00:12.739 --> 03:00:14.579
entitled to attend and vote at a general meeting

03:00:14.579 --> 03:00:17.200
of the foundation company may... by written instrument

03:00:17.200 --> 03:00:20.100
underhand, or if the appointor is a corporation,

03:00:20.379 --> 03:00:23.159
either under the corporation seal or under the

03:00:23.159 --> 03:00:27.159
hand of an officer or attorney duly authorized,

03:00:27.479 --> 03:00:29.959
appoint a proxy to represent at the grand meeting

03:00:29.959 --> 03:00:33.079
of the foundation company. Section 57. The instrument

03:00:33.079 --> 03:00:41.440
appointing a proxy may be in any usual or common

03:00:41.440 --> 03:00:45.319
form or as otherwise acceptable. to the chairman

03:00:45.319 --> 03:00:47.579
of the meeting for which the instrument is first

03:00:47.579 --> 03:00:51.739
presented. Directors meeting, section 58. The

03:00:51.739 --> 03:00:54.260
directors may meet together, either within or

03:00:54.260 --> 03:00:57.319
outside Cayman Islands, or the dispatch of business,

03:00:57.479 --> 03:00:59.739
adjourn or otherwise regulate their meeting and

03:00:59.739 --> 03:01:02.180
proceedings as they think fit. Questions arising

03:01:02.180 --> 03:01:04.420
at any meeting shall be decided by a majority

03:01:04.420 --> 03:01:07.120
of votes. In case of inequality of votes, the

03:01:07.120 --> 03:01:10.719
chair shall have a second or casting vote. A

03:01:10.719 --> 03:01:13.920
director may and a secretary or assistant secretary,

03:01:14.360 --> 03:01:16.899
on the requisition of a director shall at any

03:01:16.899 --> 03:01:22.360
time summon a meeting of the directors. There's

03:01:22.360 --> 03:01:25.700
that indirect thing. And a secretary or assistant

03:01:25.700 --> 03:01:28.260
secretary on the requisition of a director. That

03:01:28.260 --> 03:01:31.579
was that. A director may formally or informally,

03:01:31.639 --> 03:01:34.239
when we were talking about that earlier. Second

03:01:34.239 --> 03:01:36.639
59. A director may participate in any meeting

03:01:36.639 --> 03:01:39.280
of the directors or of any committee appointed

03:01:39.280 --> 03:01:41.959
by the directors of which such director is a

03:01:41.959 --> 03:01:58.850
member. Section 60. Quorum necessary for the

03:01:58.850 --> 03:02:00.709
transaction of the business of the directors

03:02:00.709 --> 03:02:03.190
may be fixed by the directors, and unless so

03:02:03.190 --> 03:02:05.690
fixed, if there be two or more directors, the

03:02:05.690 --> 03:02:25.049
quorum shall be two. Hmm. Section 61. I mean,

03:02:25.069 --> 03:02:27.229
that's actually kind of cool. So it just established

03:02:27.229 --> 03:02:33.090
quorum. Section 61. A resolution in writing signed

03:02:33.090 --> 03:02:35.989
by all the directors for the time being shall

03:02:35.989 --> 03:02:39.219
be as valid. and effectual as if it had been

03:02:39.219 --> 03:02:42.239
passed at a meeting of the directors duly convened

03:02:42.239 --> 03:02:44.799
when signed a resolution may consist of several

03:02:44.799 --> 03:02:47.579
documents each signed by one or more of the directors

03:02:47.579 --> 03:02:54.059
or their duly appointed alternate give me one

03:02:54.059 --> 03:02:59.020
second i will be back in 60 seconds all right

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section 61 a resolution and writing signed by

03:03:04.479 --> 03:03:06.739
all the directors for the time being shall be

03:03:06.739 --> 03:03:09.479
as valid and effectual as if it had been passed

03:03:09.479 --> 03:03:11.540
at a meeting of the directors duly convened.

03:03:11.540 --> 03:03:14.120
When signed, a resolution may consist of several

03:03:14.120 --> 03:03:16.059
documents, each signed by one or more of the

03:03:16.059 --> 03:03:18.559
directors or their duly appointed alternate.

03:03:19.600 --> 03:03:23.639
Chapter Accounts Section 62 The directors shall

03:03:23.639 --> 03:03:26.920
cause proper books of account to be kept for.

03:03:27.079 --> 03:03:29.920
Section 62a All funds received, expended, or

03:03:29.920 --> 03:03:32.280
distributed by the Foundation Company and the

03:03:32.280 --> 03:03:35.040
matters in respect of which the receipt or expenditure

03:03:35.040 --> 03:03:39.719
takes place, And section 62B, the assets and

03:03:39.719 --> 03:03:44.059
liabilities of the foundation company. I guess

03:03:44.059 --> 03:03:49.299
a continuance of section 62 is, and proper books

03:03:49.299 --> 03:03:52.180
of account shall not be deemed to be kept if

03:03:52.180 --> 03:03:57.180
there are not kept such books as are necessary

03:03:57.180 --> 03:04:01.739
to keep a true and fair view of the state of...

03:04:01.739 --> 03:04:04.620
The thing is blocking it again, so I have to

03:04:04.620 --> 03:04:08.899
copy -paste it all. Okay, I'm going to do this

03:04:08.899 --> 03:04:11.299
again. And proper books of account shall not

03:04:11.299 --> 03:04:14.340
be deemed to be kept if there are not kept such

03:04:14.340 --> 03:04:21.520
books as are necessary to give a true and fair

03:04:21.520 --> 03:04:24.100
view of the state of the foundation company's

03:04:24.100 --> 03:04:28.399
affairs and to explain its transactions. Such

03:04:28.399 --> 03:04:31.700
books shall be kept at the registered office

03:04:31.700 --> 03:04:34.700
or such other place as may be determined by the

03:04:34.700 --> 03:04:37.610
directors. The books of account shall be opened

03:04:37.610 --> 03:04:40.170
at any time in ordinary business hours to inspection

03:04:40.170 --> 03:04:44.229
by a supervisor and any person to whom right

03:04:44.229 --> 03:04:45.809
of access has been granted pursuant to these

03:04:45.809 --> 03:04:48.350
articles. By notice to this foundation company,

03:04:48.450 --> 03:04:50.489
a supervisor may call for such reports, accounts,

03:04:50.610 --> 03:04:52.290
information, and explanations from the directors

03:04:52.290 --> 03:04:54.670
as to the administration of the foundation company

03:04:54.670 --> 03:04:58.870
and are described in notice. Why is, um, why

03:04:58.870 --> 03:05:02.049
were they stripped of all rights? They seem to

03:05:02.049 --> 03:05:08.110
be given rights here. Okay, I'm going to go back

03:05:08.110 --> 03:05:17.549
to our thing up here. So reference page 14, section

03:05:17.549 --> 03:05:31.030
63. Section 63 and 64. So a supervisor can open

03:05:31.030 --> 03:05:36.680
a bunch of books, do a bunch of stuff. But they

03:05:36.680 --> 03:05:40.299
were. Disapplied to the maximum extent. Permitted

03:05:40.299 --> 03:05:45.819
by law. For some reason. Okay. So that was section

03:05:45.819 --> 03:05:50.340
63. And section 64. Financial year end. Section

03:05:50.340 --> 03:05:53.620
65. The financial year of the foundation company.

03:05:53.700 --> 03:05:55.940
Shall end on 31 December of each year. Or such

03:05:55.940 --> 03:05:58.600
other date as the directors may determine. Auditors.

03:05:58.940 --> 03:06:02.069
Section 66. A foundation company may by director's

03:06:02.069 --> 03:06:04.469
resolution at any time appoint or replace an

03:06:04.469 --> 03:06:06.190
auditor or auditors of the foundation company.

03:06:06.409 --> 03:06:08.569
The remuneration of an auditor shall be fixed

03:06:08.569 --> 03:06:11.590
by the director's resolutions. Section 67. Every

03:06:11.590 --> 03:06:14.569
auditor shall have a right of access at all times

03:06:14.569 --> 03:06:16.930
and ordinary business hours to the books of account

03:06:16.930 --> 03:06:18.870
of the foundation company and shall be entitled

03:06:18.870 --> 03:06:21.110
to require from the directors and officers of

03:06:21.110 --> 03:06:23.409
the foundation company such information and explanation

03:06:23.409 --> 03:06:26.290
as access to vouchers and other documents as

03:06:26.290 --> 03:06:28.950
the auditor considers necessary for the performance

03:06:28.950 --> 03:06:32.379
of other. of the auditor's duties. Winding up.

03:06:37.219 --> 03:06:40.120
Siggy asks, does this mean that the foundation

03:06:40.120 --> 03:06:43.899
company would have been paid for the 2024 service

03:06:43.899 --> 03:06:47.700
by the end of December 31, 24, if that is the

03:06:47.700 --> 03:06:51.500
year end? Yeah, Siggy. I think that is what it

03:06:51.500 --> 03:06:58.600
means. They could be paid in 2025. It just means

03:06:58.600 --> 03:07:00.750
that Kind of like how, you know, the United States

03:07:00.750 --> 03:07:04.370
government has their financial year end on September

03:07:04.370 --> 03:07:08.989
30th. And their new financial year begins October

03:07:08.989 --> 03:07:14.790
1st. So something like that. Thanks, Ziggy. I

03:07:14.790 --> 03:07:18.790
appreciate that. That means a lot to me. So winding

03:07:18.790 --> 03:07:21.909
up. Section 68. The foundation company shall

03:07:21.909 --> 03:07:24.770
be wound up if the directors pass a resolution

03:07:24.770 --> 03:07:42.140
declaring that it shall be wound up. Section

03:07:42.140 --> 03:07:46.100
69. Surplus assets shall be distributed in accordance

03:07:46.100 --> 03:07:48.139
with Clause 12 of the Memorandum of Association.

03:07:53.850 --> 03:07:55.870
as such have no power or authority to wind up

03:07:55.870 --> 03:07:57.690
the foundation company or petition the court

03:07:57.690 --> 03:08:00.110
to wind up the foundation company, except in

03:08:00.110 --> 03:08:08.270
the case of 71, 70, section 1, subsection 1,

03:08:08.409 --> 03:08:12.090
70, Roman numeral 1, insolvency, Roman numeral

03:08:12.090 --> 03:08:14.549
2, for the purposes of a bona fide organization

03:08:14.549 --> 03:08:17.649
intended to enable the foundation company to

03:08:17.649 --> 03:08:20.530
carry out its objects more efficiently, or Roman

03:08:20.530 --> 03:08:23.200
numeral 3, where the foundation company has no

03:08:23.200 --> 03:08:28.040
present token holders oh okay that's an interesting

03:08:28.040 --> 03:08:32.540
power i'm not sure that they this articles has

03:08:32.540 --> 03:08:36.700
the power to restrict the supervisor from from

03:08:36.700 --> 03:08:40.299
petitioning the court i don't know i don't know

03:08:40.299 --> 03:08:43.299
gaming items law that well enough to know if

03:08:43.299 --> 03:08:46.719
the law cameras if these articles can restrict

03:08:46.719 --> 03:08:52.690
someone's law a legal right to go to court I

03:08:52.690 --> 03:09:19.760
don't know. or sustained by reason of any act

03:09:19.760 --> 03:09:23.100
done or omitted in or by the execution of their

03:09:23.100 --> 03:09:25.620
duties in their respective offices except such

03:09:25.620 --> 03:09:29.920
as any they shall occur or sustain by or through

03:09:29.920 --> 03:09:33.299
their dishonesty, willful default, or fraud.

03:09:35.700 --> 03:09:41.219
Okay, so people of the foundation company shall

03:09:41.219 --> 03:09:45.340
not be liable for and shall be indemnified out

03:09:45.340 --> 03:09:50.610
of the assets unless Unless they do so through

03:09:50.610 --> 03:09:52.829
dishonesty, willful disfault, or fraud. Okay.

03:09:54.530 --> 03:09:58.430
Bylaws. Section 72. The director's by director's

03:09:58.430 --> 03:10:00.469
resolution may adopt bylaws that are not inconsistent

03:10:00.469 --> 03:10:03.510
with the acts or the memorandum and articles

03:10:03.510 --> 03:10:08.709
of association. FYI, bylaws are optional and

03:10:08.709 --> 03:10:11.809
no one outside of the foundation company is required

03:10:11.809 --> 03:10:16.530
to adhere to them. FYI. Or consider them when

03:10:16.530 --> 03:10:19.770
doing business with the foundation company. Section

03:10:19.770 --> 03:10:22.829
73. Bylaws may relate to any aspect of the business

03:10:22.829 --> 03:10:25.110
or affairs of the foundation company, or any

03:10:25.110 --> 03:10:27.350
of the duties or powers of the directors or their

03:10:27.350 --> 03:10:30.370
delegates, or others who have duties or powers

03:10:30.370 --> 03:10:32.389
under these articles, including the manner of

03:10:32.389 --> 03:10:36.149
achieving the foundation company's objects, investment,

03:10:36.489 --> 03:10:38.629
management, and protection of the foundation

03:10:38.629 --> 03:10:41.229
company's assets, remuneration of directors and

03:10:41.229 --> 03:10:43.790
their delegates, the delegation of the director's

03:10:43.790 --> 03:10:46.329
duties and powers, the supervisor of the management

03:10:46.329 --> 03:10:48.379
of the foundation company. and the appointment

03:10:48.379 --> 03:10:52.219
of advisors and other service providers. Section

03:10:52.219 --> 03:10:55.440
74. Bylaws may be varied or revoked by directors

03:10:55.440 --> 03:10:57.639
by director's resolution or by special resolution

03:10:57.639 --> 03:11:02.079
of the foundation company. Section 75. The adoption

03:11:02.079 --> 03:11:04.799
of variation of bylaws shall not render any director

03:11:04.799 --> 03:11:08.799
or other person liable for prior conduct. Okay,

03:11:08.840 --> 03:11:11.860
so it's not retroactive. Section 76. No third

03:11:11.860 --> 03:11:13.440
party dealing in good faith with the company.

03:11:14.030 --> 03:11:16.030
Foundation company need be concerned with the

03:11:16.030 --> 03:11:18.790
bylaws or their observance. That's just copied

03:11:18.790 --> 03:11:23.209
straight out of the law. Alterations of articles

03:11:23.209 --> 03:11:26.469
chapter section 77 subject to provisions of the

03:11:26.469 --> 03:11:28.549
memorandum and articles of association restricting

03:11:28.549 --> 03:11:31.069
alterations. These articles may be altered by

03:11:31.069 --> 03:11:32.889
the directors by director's resolution provided

03:11:32.889 --> 03:11:35.770
that these articles may not at any time be amended

03:11:35.770 --> 03:11:37.829
to remove any rights or powers conferred upon

03:11:37.829 --> 03:11:44.420
the token holders. Nice. Nice. Oh man, you know

03:11:44.420 --> 03:11:46.040
what I just realized? I've been talking this

03:11:46.040 --> 03:11:47.540
whole time and you all didn't get to see this.

03:11:48.500 --> 03:11:52.280
Shoot. Section 78. The Memorandum of Association

03:11:52.280 --> 03:11:54.799
and or the Articles of Association shall not

03:11:54.799 --> 03:11:57.920
be amended so as to modify the rights, powers,

03:11:58.120 --> 03:12:00.000
or duties of the supervisor without the prior

03:12:00.000 --> 03:12:06.139
written consent of the supervisor. This is very

03:12:06.139 --> 03:12:10.379
confusing. You disapply to the maximum extent.

03:12:10.840 --> 03:12:13.219
The supervisor, but give them all of these rules,

03:12:13.459 --> 03:12:20.399
all of these rights. A lot of rights. Given to

03:12:20.399 --> 03:12:24.180
the supervisor. I don't get that part. All right,

03:12:24.180 --> 03:12:25.940
let's go back up. I don't remember where I left

03:12:25.940 --> 03:12:28.979
off. You all could see me. So indemnity, here's

03:12:28.979 --> 03:12:37.020
section 71. Part of 71. Here's the rest of 71.

03:12:39.159 --> 03:12:43.840
Here's section 72 under bylaws chapter. Here's

03:12:43.840 --> 03:12:48.000
section 73 under bylaws chapter. Here's section

03:12:48.000 --> 03:12:55.239
74, 75, 76. If you're watching this over, just

03:12:55.239 --> 03:12:58.799
pause it or open it. I'll show you where the

03:12:58.799 --> 03:13:05.620
link is. Section 77. Section 78, which we just

03:13:05.620 --> 03:13:11.379
went over. Okay. And here's the subscriber. On

03:13:11.379 --> 03:13:15.079
September 8th, 2022, the subscriber was an authorized

03:13:15.079 --> 03:13:21.840
signatory of Walkers Limited. And here is the

03:13:21.840 --> 03:13:26.219
secretary. A qualified person. And that's it.

03:13:28.139 --> 03:13:30.520
I say that's it. Three, four hours into this,

03:13:30.579 --> 03:13:33.059
that's it. I was expecting this to only be two

03:13:33.059 --> 03:13:43.469
hours max. But, whoops. Joke's on me. Okay. Cool.

03:13:43.930 --> 03:13:46.590
So we're done now reading the articles association,

03:13:46.729 --> 03:13:49.409
and we have 16 questions between the articles

03:13:49.409 --> 03:13:55.670
and the memo. I'm not going to miss for that.

03:13:56.290 --> 03:13:58.350
Okay. All right, let's get to the next part.

03:13:58.829 --> 03:14:00.909
So now that we're done the articles association,

03:14:01.350 --> 03:14:03.709
we can now move to one of the last things we're

03:14:03.709 --> 03:14:05.129
going to go over, which is the entity search.

03:14:06.200 --> 03:14:08.260
The entity search is something you can do yourself

03:14:08.260 --> 03:14:12.319
and follow along with me. It's pretty much verifying

03:14:12.319 --> 03:14:15.600
the documents are properly registered and looking

03:14:15.600 --> 03:14:18.180
up regulated entities. All the stuff that we

03:14:18.180 --> 03:14:21.639
just read from all the people, which were highlighted

03:14:21.639 --> 03:14:29.159
in green here, all these greens, you can search

03:14:29.159 --> 03:14:32.899
them within the Grand Cayman Islands. So I'm

03:14:32.899 --> 03:14:36.190
going to show you how to do that. Something I

03:14:36.190 --> 03:14:40.530
noted in the Foundation staff is that I only

03:14:40.530 --> 03:14:42.930
found this in the DAO chat messages, but Glenn

03:14:42.930 --> 03:14:49.450
Kennedy is the director. And he is president

03:14:49.450 --> 03:14:55.450
of Leeward Management Limited. So that's Leeward

03:14:55.450 --> 03:14:57.709
Management Limited. So if you click Leeward Management

03:14:57.709 --> 03:15:02.229
Limited, you'll see it's a company. And they

03:15:02.229 --> 03:15:05.239
provide financial services and other stuff. the

03:15:05.239 --> 03:15:10.959
website you go to the website see nice stuff

03:15:10.959 --> 03:15:14.899
governance corporate compliance so they provide

03:15:14.899 --> 03:15:19.120
government services corporate services compliance

03:15:19.120 --> 03:15:24.159
services digital asset services okay and then

03:15:24.159 --> 03:15:26.379
in the articles you can tell that you know walker's

03:15:26.379 --> 03:15:34.059
global limited is is the the authorized signatory

03:15:35.160 --> 03:15:38.399
subscriber okay so these are some some key entities

03:15:38.399 --> 03:15:44.319
that we're going to end up searching right so

03:15:44.319 --> 03:15:49.879
where you go to do this is you go to the general

03:15:49.879 --> 03:15:51.680
registry of the grand cayman islands and this

03:15:51.680 --> 03:15:54.000
is the link here and you can start searching

03:15:54.000 --> 03:15:56.459
different things star atlas foundation walkers

03:15:56.459 --> 03:15:59.579
corporate limited wnl limited leeward management

03:15:59.579 --> 03:16:04.260
all of these key phrases we just saw And you

03:16:04.260 --> 03:16:07.000
go to online tools. And you click company search.

03:16:08.520 --> 03:16:12.899
So it looks like this. So here's the website

03:16:12.899 --> 03:16:19.280
we were just on. And you want to go to company

03:16:19.280 --> 03:16:23.639
search. Right here. In the middle. Company search.

03:16:24.100 --> 03:16:29.399
You click that. And then you can create an account.

03:16:29.940 --> 03:16:33.690
It's free. Create an account. Sign in. Okay,

03:16:33.690 --> 03:16:36.590
that's what I'm doing here to show you the stuff

03:16:36.590 --> 03:16:41.729
on the left. So here's the entity search. And

03:16:41.729 --> 03:16:43.709
there's where you input the entity name and you

03:16:43.709 --> 03:16:46.829
click search. So I did that for you. Inputs are

03:16:46.829 --> 03:16:49.049
at this foundation. And here's the first hit.

03:16:49.250 --> 03:16:51.309
You can look at company details, director details

03:16:51.309 --> 03:16:53.889
and detail search. When you do that, you will

03:16:53.889 --> 03:16:56.270
have to pay a fee to review the documentation.

03:16:56.670 --> 03:16:59.069
But at the very least, you can tell that they

03:16:59.069 --> 03:17:01.780
are an entity. within the grand cayman islands

03:17:01.780 --> 03:17:04.040
registry all right you just have to pay some

03:17:04.040 --> 03:17:06.459
money to see the documents and it's the same

03:17:06.459 --> 03:17:09.879
thing for everybody else okay if you're my eight

03:17:09.879 --> 03:17:13.180
coin dial people still the same thing your your

03:17:13.180 --> 03:17:15.520
bridge stream so you search ape foundation bridge

03:17:15.520 --> 03:17:19.440
stream or web slinger and then you can see all

03:17:19.440 --> 03:17:25.899
of the the active statuses of who's running your

03:17:25.899 --> 03:17:28.819
dow and for the sandbox style we did this on

03:17:28.819 --> 03:17:33.030
episode 60 so you all just look at episode 60

03:17:33.030 --> 03:17:37.989
and your searches are there okay so for the document

03:17:37.989 --> 03:17:41.670
search same thing over we're going to now use

03:17:41.670 --> 03:17:44.889
that authorization code in the top right of the

03:17:44.889 --> 03:17:50.030
of the memos and articles you can see that filed

03:17:50.030 --> 03:17:52.709
as number right there three nine three eight

03:17:52.709 --> 03:17:57.430
five four on september 2022 and then the bottom

03:17:57.430 --> 03:18:00.350
right you'll see the authorization code and it

03:18:00.350 --> 03:18:02.530
gives you the website to go to to look it up.

03:18:03.750 --> 03:18:10.110
So if you go there, this website, right, so you'll

03:18:10.110 --> 03:18:12.209
see this, but I already did all that for you.

03:18:14.069 --> 03:18:17.010
All right, so this is what you'll see. Down here

03:18:17.010 --> 03:18:19.110
at the bottom, you want to look at the authorization

03:18:19.110 --> 03:18:22.170
code, fill that in, the entity file number, fill

03:18:22.170 --> 03:18:26.469
that in, which is what I just did. So you see

03:18:26.469 --> 03:18:32.700
it there, file all that in. Click here to validate

03:18:32.700 --> 03:18:36.739
a certificate, and then it will tell you... Give

03:18:36.739 --> 03:18:41.940
me a second. 62. And then it will tell you down

03:18:41.940 --> 03:18:46.700
here that this stamp document was issued by the

03:18:46.700 --> 03:18:48.479
Grand Cayman Islands Registry for Star Atlas

03:18:48.479 --> 03:18:52.979
Foundation on 9 September 2022. The type of stamp

03:18:52.979 --> 03:18:56.760
document is the Memorandum of Association. Easy

03:18:56.760 --> 03:19:03.079
peasy. Very easy to do. Okay, and one last thing.

03:19:03.180 --> 03:19:05.819
You do a regulated entity search within SEMA,

03:19:05.920 --> 03:19:10.299
which is the regulatory agency that issues certificates

03:19:10.299 --> 03:19:15.280
and designates people active. And here's where

03:19:15.280 --> 03:19:17.819
you would search the entities that are within

03:19:17.819 --> 03:19:20.260
our DAO. So Leeward Management, W &L Limited,

03:19:20.440 --> 03:19:24.120
Walkers Global. Okay, so I searched Leeward Management.

03:19:25.000 --> 03:19:29.760
And I just input here, hit submit. And then you'll

03:19:29.760 --> 03:19:31.940
see the reference number. You'll see Leeward

03:19:31.940 --> 03:19:35.280
Management. And this is the company that Glenn

03:19:35.280 --> 03:19:43.719
Kennedy runs. And it's registered as a company

03:19:43.719 --> 03:19:48.760
manager type. And it's active as of 2020. So

03:19:48.760 --> 03:19:50.879
there you have it. If you want to search the

03:19:50.879 --> 03:19:55.579
entities, all the stuff within the Star Atlas

03:19:55.579 --> 03:19:58.200
Foundation and verify their authenticity, that's

03:19:58.200 --> 03:20:00.870
how you do it. You do it in the general registry.

03:20:02.190 --> 03:20:04.709
You put in the name. You'll see information.

03:20:06.770 --> 03:20:09.209
You do it within the document search within the

03:20:09.209 --> 03:20:13.030
registry .gov .ky to verify that that document

03:20:13.030 --> 03:20:17.629
was stamped properly. And then you search SEMA

03:20:17.629 --> 03:20:24.129
to verify someone's certificate, their active

03:20:24.129 --> 03:20:30.200
certificate. And there you go. All done. Look

03:20:30.200 --> 03:20:33.600
at that. Part 62, done and dusted. Four hours

03:20:33.600 --> 03:20:40.959
later. Gosh darn it. And so we now add 62 to

03:20:40.959 --> 03:20:46.239
the list of our Foundation Company miniseries.

03:20:46.340 --> 03:20:49.440
Started with Sandow 34, with the thou birth.

03:20:49.799 --> 03:20:53.000
That was a look into TSB DAO origin, Sandbox

03:20:53.000 --> 03:20:56.209
DAO origin. Then went to episode 56. which was

03:20:56.209 --> 03:20:58.309
part one of our Foundation Company miniseries.

03:20:58.329 --> 03:21:01.569
We read the Cayman Island Law. Then Sandow 57,

03:21:01.909 --> 03:21:05.770
which is part two, was a review of U .S. DAOs

03:21:05.770 --> 03:21:08.750
and case laws with a U .S. practicing attorney.

03:21:09.170 --> 03:21:13.729
Then episode 59, which is part three, was a discussion

03:21:13.729 --> 03:21:18.149
with Cayman Island lawyers from Walker's Global.

03:21:19.090 --> 03:21:23.530
Then Sandow 60 was part four, and that was a

03:21:23.530 --> 03:21:26.159
reading of the Sandbox DAO documents. which is

03:21:26.159 --> 03:21:30.879
what we just did. Yeah, like last week, a couple

03:21:30.879 --> 03:21:34.860
weeks ago. And then episode 62, which is part

03:21:34.860 --> 03:21:36.459
five, and you're listening to that right now,

03:21:36.540 --> 03:21:38.620
and that's a reading of Star Atlas' DAO documents.

03:21:38.920 --> 03:21:41.319
You can tell the difference. The big thing I'm

03:21:41.319 --> 03:21:42.860
trying to figure out is why isn't there a founder?

03:21:43.020 --> 03:21:45.920
Although it looks like the founder's role, which

03:21:45.920 --> 03:21:49.500
is like a superpower role, is given to the director

03:21:49.500 --> 03:21:53.540
for Star Atlas. So the founder in Sandbox DAO

03:21:53.540 --> 03:21:58.000
is... basically the director in Star Atlas style.

03:21:58.819 --> 03:22:03.200
Whereas in the sandbox, you have a director and

03:22:03.200 --> 03:22:04.959
you have a founder, and they have different powers.

03:22:05.399 --> 03:22:07.719
But the Star Atlas style combines them, it looks

03:22:07.719 --> 03:22:12.079
like. So that's really fascinating. And Siggy

03:22:12.079 --> 03:22:15.659
asks, after everything you've seen from Star

03:22:15.659 --> 03:22:17.879
Atlas, what are you most excited about? I'm excited

03:22:17.879 --> 03:22:21.200
about the scale. It reminds me a lot of Planetside

03:22:21.200 --> 03:22:23.860
2. And I gave 13 years of my life to Planetside

03:22:23.860 --> 03:22:27.600
2. I've co -founded kind of like an NFL ESPN

03:22:27.600 --> 03:22:31.059
where we organized hundreds of players a week

03:22:31.059 --> 03:22:34.000
and like over 70 tournaments. And it's still

03:22:34.000 --> 03:22:37.940
going on, by the way. Organization. I retired

03:22:37.940 --> 03:22:42.020
from it some years ago. But we organized over

03:22:42.020 --> 03:22:43.540
a thousand players to break a Guinness World

03:22:43.540 --> 03:22:46.579
Record. A record we held for 10 years until it

03:22:46.579 --> 03:22:49.659
was broken a couple months ago by... other side

03:22:49.659 --> 03:22:52.159
and on the eight point down, they broke it with

03:22:52.159 --> 03:22:57.620
22 ,000 players. And we held the record in 2015

03:22:57.620 --> 03:23:00.520
with a thousand. And we rewrote our own record

03:23:00.520 --> 03:23:08.719
in 2022 with 1 ,300, 1 ,500. And then other side

03:23:08.719 --> 03:23:11.159
broke it with 2 ,000 players a couple of months

03:23:11.159 --> 03:23:15.379
ago. So yeah, I get galley, galley of sports.

03:23:15.459 --> 03:23:17.239
I've been talking with solace about it a little

03:23:17.239 --> 03:23:21.149
bit, but, Yeah, I co -founded the organization

03:23:21.149 --> 03:23:27.049
and we had about 135 volunteers organizing tournament

03:23:27.049 --> 03:23:29.010
matches and then broadcasting them on Twitch

03:23:29.010 --> 03:23:34.010
like you would see NFL. Like the color commentator,

03:23:34.110 --> 03:23:37.309
the play -by -play commentator. We both organized

03:23:37.309 --> 03:23:40.610
the match and broadcasted it. And we were an

03:23:40.610 --> 03:23:43.190
all -in -one. And it was called Planetside Battles.

03:23:43.829 --> 03:23:47.329
And that was my, you know, the flagship event.

03:23:47.409 --> 03:23:50.479
Server Smash was born. From there, where we would

03:23:50.479 --> 03:23:53.940
host server -on -server matches with like 200

03:23:53.940 --> 03:23:57.620
players on each side fighting it out. So about

03:23:57.620 --> 03:24:00.840
400 player matches, and we did dozens of those.

03:24:02.059 --> 03:24:07.420
And yeah, that scale, I've always been in love

03:24:07.420 --> 03:24:09.340
with that sort of scale. The application of power

03:24:09.340 --> 03:24:12.079
on a mass scale. That's what I see in Star Atlas.

03:24:12.680 --> 03:24:15.639
I see the openness and the transparency I want

03:24:15.639 --> 03:24:20.319
in order to feel safe investing. And I see the

03:24:20.319 --> 03:24:23.780
progress I need to see from the team to be sure

03:24:23.780 --> 03:24:27.459
that they are working on a product and it's going

03:24:27.459 --> 03:24:30.659
to be coming with a deadline. And then last but

03:24:30.659 --> 03:24:33.979
not least, I see that it is huge in scale where

03:24:33.979 --> 03:24:36.899
we can apply hundreds, if not thousands of players

03:24:36.899 --> 03:24:40.979
to do things. And we don't have to bat an eye.

03:24:41.040 --> 03:24:43.420
It's just part of what Star Atlas is. And that's

03:24:43.420 --> 03:24:46.739
what drove me to PlantSide 2 for over 13 years

03:24:46.739 --> 03:24:51.219
of my life. I love it. I love mass scale. So

03:24:51.219 --> 03:24:54.799
I want to do that in Star Atlas. I want to bring

03:24:54.799 --> 03:25:02.360
that to Star Atlas. And Siggy, I did not know

03:25:02.360 --> 03:25:05.459
that Star Atlas did a large scale test with mega

03:25:05.459 --> 03:25:09.180
metagravity. If you have the link, please post

03:25:09.180 --> 03:25:13.020
it in the Star Atlas content creators channel

03:25:13.020 --> 03:25:15.940
and at me, please. I want to see that. I want

03:25:15.940 --> 03:25:18.989
to see what that large scale event was. 1 ,200

03:25:18.989 --> 03:25:23.090
players in one instance. Wow. That's pretty cool.

03:25:24.430 --> 03:25:26.649
You could have given us a run for our own money

03:25:26.649 --> 03:25:31.069
with our record. Star Atlas has these in -game

03:25:31.069 --> 03:25:33.909
drone cameras called the Parrot that we can incorporate

03:25:33.909 --> 03:25:37.069
into broadcast. Exactly right. In PlantSide,

03:25:37.149 --> 03:25:41.809
we had the Observer camera. I'll show you what

03:25:41.809 --> 03:25:49.639
it looks like. Here we go. This is going to bring

03:25:49.639 --> 03:26:00.159
back memories. All right. So here is the world

03:26:00.159 --> 03:26:04.079
record match from 2015 Landslide Battles. We

03:26:04.079 --> 03:26:07.700
organized this match. I organized a third of

03:26:07.700 --> 03:26:12.579
the faction, so I brought about 300 players to

03:26:12.579 --> 03:26:17.299
the match. We were organized by like... So like

03:26:17.299 --> 03:26:19.299
North America, Europe, Asia, that sort of thing.

03:26:19.700 --> 03:26:22.280
But here is a little bit of that. And this is

03:26:22.280 --> 03:26:25.700
the observer camera. And someone following players

03:26:25.700 --> 03:26:29.479
around as they shoot people. We might see some

03:26:29.479 --> 03:26:31.459
fighting at the biolab. There it goes, the alert!

03:26:32.000 --> 03:26:37.739
We're live! And we're beginning at the Chak Tech

03:26:37.739 --> 03:26:39.500
plant. So the first number of forces of T are

03:26:39.500 --> 03:26:41.700
heading off. All of these galaxies are full because

03:26:41.700 --> 03:26:44.040
we have a two -minute ruling where... So this

03:26:44.040 --> 03:26:46.450
is... This is not a space game version. This

03:26:46.450 --> 03:26:50.209
is a planet version. And they're in basically

03:26:50.209 --> 03:26:52.790
air transports. And there are hundreds of players

03:26:52.790 --> 03:26:55.010
in those transports that they're about to drop

03:26:55.010 --> 03:26:59.530
on a point they want to capture. And PlanetSide

03:26:59.530 --> 03:27:02.250
operates on a point capturing system where you

03:27:02.250 --> 03:27:05.129
hold a point, like Battlefield, and you turn

03:27:05.129 --> 03:27:07.610
it to your color. You hold it, and then it captures

03:27:07.610 --> 03:27:10.430
the territory. And the territory, like this right

03:27:10.430 --> 03:27:13.639
here, this is the map. There are... Many, many

03:27:13.639 --> 03:27:15.280
different territories you have to capture in

03:27:15.280 --> 03:27:18.180
order to win. But it's a first -person shooter,

03:27:18.360 --> 03:27:22.040
so all of this is people fighting across an entire

03:27:22.040 --> 03:27:25.559
map. And they will zoom in, so they go. So you

03:27:25.559 --> 03:27:30.319
can see people shooting each other and just fighting.

03:27:30.559 --> 03:27:34.079
So this observer camera is what reminds me of

03:27:34.079 --> 03:27:48.750
what you just said, Zamsor. Maxes are like heavily

03:27:48.750 --> 03:28:04.670
armored soldiers. So you get the idea. And there's

03:28:04.670 --> 03:28:06.889
air units fighting. So those are just little

03:28:06.889 --> 03:28:09.590
ground people fighting. But there's air right

03:28:09.590 --> 03:28:12.510
there. Air shooting each other. There are tanks

03:28:12.510 --> 03:28:17.450
shooting each other. There's now boats that can

03:28:17.450 --> 03:28:20.889
shoot each other. There's a lot. Planetside 2

03:28:20.889 --> 03:28:24.870
has humongous scale and combined arms. So there's

03:28:24.870 --> 03:28:32.909
a ground transport vehicle. Oh my gosh. And the

03:28:32.909 --> 03:28:37.250
game still goes on. It still goes. You can still

03:28:37.250 --> 03:28:39.489
play it. It's just the population has declined

03:28:39.489 --> 03:28:42.270
a lot because it's a really old game. But they're

03:28:42.270 --> 03:28:48.250
trying. Yeah. The tank battles are my favorite.

03:28:48.329 --> 03:28:50.750
I was a battle tank driver. Kind of like an Abrams.

03:28:51.489 --> 03:28:55.610
I drove tanks all the time. And so you would

03:28:55.610 --> 03:28:58.010
have this enormous territory with so much ground

03:28:58.010 --> 03:29:01.129
to cover. And you can kind of see right there

03:29:01.129 --> 03:29:04.899
the vehicles going on. I want to get a really

03:29:04.899 --> 03:29:06.719
good tank battle going on, but I don't think

03:29:06.719 --> 03:29:15.440
we're going to find one right now. So look at

03:29:15.440 --> 03:29:18.459
this. This is all individual battles going on.

03:29:18.780 --> 03:29:21.559
That's what I mean by scale. Within Star Atlas,

03:29:21.719 --> 03:29:26.319
you have the space galaxies or expanses. So those

03:29:26.319 --> 03:29:31.500
fights are going to take place in a much different

03:29:31.500 --> 03:29:35.680
way. than here on the ground and in the air and

03:29:35.680 --> 03:29:41.020
on water. So I think Star Atlas has the scale

03:29:41.020 --> 03:29:48.379
to replicate this, but in space. Many, many miles

03:29:48.379 --> 03:29:51.020
of territory where people are fighting and trying

03:29:51.020 --> 03:29:55.299
to capture these points right here. And there

03:29:55.299 --> 03:30:03.120
you go. Oh man, that brings back memories. So,

03:30:03.120 --> 03:30:09.739
let's get back to it. Good question, Siggy. And

03:30:09.739 --> 03:30:13.340
Yuma, yep. Planetside 2 is my favorite game of

03:30:13.340 --> 03:30:15.319
all time. Right after that is Free Allegiance.

03:30:16.120 --> 03:30:19.299
And Star Atlas, to me, is both Planetside 2 and

03:30:19.299 --> 03:30:22.559
Free Allegiance. So, that's why I'm so interested

03:30:22.559 --> 03:30:26.500
in this game, and I've invested into it. Alright,

03:30:26.700 --> 03:30:30.379
we are here at the end, and we have made it through.

03:30:31.060 --> 03:30:33.719
62 episodes. So I'm going to mark this one blue

03:30:33.719 --> 03:30:37.459
or green now. I want to do another Q &A with

03:30:37.459 --> 03:30:41.159
Carolyn and Melissa from Walker's Global. And

03:30:41.159 --> 03:30:45.319
I want to do an episode on the world record breaking

03:30:45.319 --> 03:30:51.219
that I think I accidentally had other side break

03:30:51.219 --> 03:30:56.799
my own record. And I think it's my fault. I think

03:30:56.799 --> 03:30:58.879
they saw me post it on their forums and then

03:30:58.879 --> 03:31:01.190
they said, hey, we want to do that. So they broke

03:31:01.190 --> 03:31:04.829
it. But I felt a little bit sniped. I felt a

03:31:04.829 --> 03:31:09.809
little bit taken advantage of, let's call it.

03:31:09.930 --> 03:31:12.530
Because I said that resume in order to help another

03:31:12.530 --> 03:31:17.049
person break a record in the largest gin and

03:31:17.049 --> 03:31:19.950
tonic in the world record. So I offered to help

03:31:19.950 --> 03:31:22.590
them because I'd broken a record before. And

03:31:22.590 --> 03:31:27.270
then some people break my record like two months

03:31:27.270 --> 03:31:30.799
later. Now it's watering the bridge, but it would

03:31:30.799 --> 03:31:36.340
have felt right to be a bit involved. And then

03:31:36.340 --> 03:31:40.819
I want to interview our last delegate, the 12th

03:31:40.819 --> 03:31:43.260
of the 12th delegate, Mo. And then I want to

03:31:43.260 --> 03:31:45.899
do the Sandbox ecosystem and the DAO as my probably

03:31:45.899 --> 03:31:49.459
final episode for a while. That's going to be

03:31:49.459 --> 03:31:51.520
some flowcharts and stuff. I really, really want

03:31:51.520 --> 03:31:53.520
to do this one, but I might not get to it. We'll

03:31:53.520 --> 03:31:56.639
see. The fact that we just did a four -hour Star

03:31:56.639 --> 03:32:00.110
Atlas. One is, oh gosh, I can't believe it took

03:32:00.110 --> 03:32:04.430
this long. All right, almost done here. Sandbox

03:32:04.430 --> 03:32:07.090
Spaces, where do SandFam gather? We gather in

03:32:07.090 --> 03:32:09.510
the Discord of the DAO discussion. We gather

03:32:09.510 --> 03:32:13.649
in the forums on SandboxDAO .com. We gather on

03:32:13.649 --> 03:32:16.569
Twitter, hashtag SandFam, hashtag SandboxDAO,

03:32:16.649 --> 03:32:20.629
hashtag SandboxGame. On YouTube, there is a SandboxDAO.

03:32:20.850 --> 03:32:24.250
There's Sandow Podcast, which is LanzerYT. That's

03:32:24.250 --> 03:32:26.129
what you're listening to right now. And then

03:32:26.129 --> 03:32:29.940
SandFam Cafe. On Twitter Spaces, Monday is Mochaverse

03:32:29.940 --> 03:32:33.159
Hall. Saturdays is Bowls on the Block. They are

03:32:33.159 --> 03:32:41.239
now at 11 a .m. Eastern and 5 p .m. CEST and

03:32:41.239 --> 03:32:47.280
1 a .m. Korean Standard Time. Monday through

03:32:47.280 --> 03:32:49.100
Friday is Coffee with Captain. They primarily

03:32:49.100 --> 03:32:51.319
focus on 8 -coin DAO, but some sandbox stuff.

03:32:51.600 --> 03:32:54.399
And then Whale Members is Nightly Digital on

03:32:54.399 --> 03:32:57.120
Tuesday. We just interviewed whale members last

03:32:57.120 --> 03:33:00.459
week, I think it was, episode 61. They're the

03:33:00.459 --> 03:33:04.360
largest sand holder in Sandbox with 1 ,600 lands.

03:33:04.700 --> 03:33:07.979
So check them out. They're an important voter

03:33:07.979 --> 03:33:12.239
now in the Sandbox now. And let's take a look

03:33:12.239 --> 03:33:15.319
and see who we can raid. See if anyone else is

03:33:15.319 --> 03:33:18.760
currently streaming the game. It's usually just

03:33:18.760 --> 03:33:22.799
me. You're right, it is just me. So let's go

03:33:22.799 --> 03:33:29.010
ahead and raid. Someone... I haven't raided...

03:33:29.010 --> 03:33:34.190
Reese's. Let's raid Reese's. He's an awesome

03:33:34.190 --> 03:33:40.989
guy. Big fan of Reese's Cups. C -R -E -E -S -I

03:33:40.989 --> 03:33:47.309
-E -K -U -P -S. Okay. Zemsor, Yuma, Siggy, thank

03:33:47.309 --> 03:33:49.229
you so much for sticking out with me and the

03:33:49.229 --> 03:33:55.170
12 others that have been watching this. This

03:33:55.170 --> 03:33:57.069
was a crazy one. I thought I would be done in

03:33:57.069 --> 03:34:00.989
two hours. It's now four hours. I'm in so much

03:34:00.989 --> 03:34:03.750
trouble. Little Lancer was born earlier this

03:34:03.750 --> 03:34:09.270
week. So I carved out two hours and then it ended

03:34:09.270 --> 03:34:12.450
up being four hours. So I have to go take care

03:34:12.450 --> 03:34:15.170
of the baby, Little Lancer. And I'm a first time

03:34:15.170 --> 03:34:17.950
dad. So all this stuff I'm learning, you know,

03:34:17.950 --> 03:34:21.889
time is not my own anymore. And just caring and

03:34:21.889 --> 03:34:25.200
feeding for a little infant, Little Lancer. This

03:34:25.200 --> 03:34:29.319
was Sandal 62, part five of the Foundation Company,

03:34:29.479 --> 03:34:32.959
a read -through of Star Atlas Foundation documents,

03:34:33.399 --> 03:34:36.760
the Memorandum of Association, and the Articles

03:34:36.760 --> 03:34:40.200
of Association. Thank you so much for being here.

03:34:40.340 --> 03:34:46.819
And Sam Fam, Star Atlassian Fam, and ApeCoinDow

03:34:46.819 --> 03:34:49.139
Fam, see you later.
