1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Alright everyone, hello, good morning, good night, wherever you are in the world. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Sandow podcast number 58. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,160 And today I have a special guest with me, Ayumi from Women in Tech. 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,480 And as you can see the bumper sticker there, on a mission to empower 5 million women and 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,320 girls by 2030. 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:33,520 So the scope of the talk is a meet and greet with Ayumi to learn about her, Women in Tech, 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,680 and the SIP that is in discussion right now is also a learning opportunity. 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Because Women in Tech has been involved in the sandbox, especially if you've seen some 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,400 of the collaborations that's happened over the years. 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,040 So we'll get into a little bit into that. 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,080 So Ayumi and I, we do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation. 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,440 We're not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken as financial 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,040 or legal advice. 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,480 When we say the word SIP we mean Sandbox Improvement Proposal. 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,560 We say the word DAO we mean Decentralized Autonomous Organization. 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,780 And when we use the word SanFam, we're talking about the sandbox community and those who 17 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:15,640 participate in the people, product, and purpose of this sandbox ecosystem. 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,080 That ecosystem looks a little bit like this if you're looking on the screen right now. 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,160 The people, everyone from gamers, the sandbox team, the product, everything from the game 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,160 client to the DAO. 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:31,240 And the purpose, what was originally mentioned in the white paper to an expand on by Seb 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,800 and Arthur Madrede and Yatsu. 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,360 All those things come together equals the ecosystem. 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Today we're talking about the DAO, talking about partners. 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,600 And I'm your host Lanzer. 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Ayumi here is from Women in Tech. 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,800 And Ayumi, if you wouldn't mind, please introduce yourself and your background. 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Sure. 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,880 Well, thank you for this lovely introduction, Lanzer. 30 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:01,200 So Ayumi Morawaki, I am the founder and the CEO of Women in Tech Global. 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:08,680 We are this global organization that are founded back in 2018, headquarters in Paris in France, 32 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,880 but we are present all over the world. 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,040 So we have 62 official chapters. 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,620 That means in the countries where we have teams and we're doing on the ground work. 35 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:25,760 But we literally have over 300,000 members all over the world, like in all countries 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:26,760 in the world. 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Yeah, 300,000. 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,760 That's a lot. 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,720 But yeah, it's exciting. 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,040 So that's a little bit about me. 41 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:42,400 And when, so I do some research and some of the things that I highlighted in your background 42 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:49,800 that I was looking through tech diplomat, social entrepreneur, and mother of four. 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Yeah. 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,920 So you, your eldest is how old? 45 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:58,000 So my eldest is 24 and my youngest is seven. 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:05,120 So I've got 24 as a boy, 20 as a girl, 14 a girl, and then seven a boy. 47 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Two girls, two boys. 48 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,880 And tech diplomat. 49 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,720 So some of the things I pulled out was that you're part of the tech diplomacy forum. 50 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,720 You've been... 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,600 I am the founder of the tech diplomacy forum. 52 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Founder. 53 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Okay, excuse me. 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Yes. 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,120 You've been a previous TEDx speaker. 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,120 Yes. 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Yes. 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Part of the Forbes Business Council. 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Yes. 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,800 A member of UNESCO. 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Yeah, I'm part of the advisory board for the gender UNESCO for women and girls in science. 62 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:48,400 For Forbes, yes, I was part of the Forbes Business Council and then one of the 40 women 63 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,560 in Forbes last year. 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,560 And tech diplomat, yes. 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Yes. 66 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,560 That's a new passion. 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Well, it's been a passion for over maybe for the last couple of years, but I decided to 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,720 really go further because from my experience firsthand with women in tech, with all these 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,920 countries around the world and how everything is shifting right now, there's a paradigm 70 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,900 shift of international relations, of innovation, AI technology. 71 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:24,060 How could we bring everything together in this rapidly changing world? 72 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:27,640 So this is how tech diplomacy came about. 73 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,680 And I'm doing my EGBA, so my executive doctor degree, and they call it the Pomp Business 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,440 School here in France. 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:41,040 And one of the topics I am researching on is on tech diplomacy. 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:47,040 And I also read as you're a doctoral candidate, also AI and international policy was involved? 77 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Yes. 78 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Yes, everything is involved. 79 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,680 So tech diplomacy with AI. 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,600 So I did my first papers, it was a quantitative research on gender bias in large language 81 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,600 models. 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Okay, okay, got it. 83 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,320 And then how that will shape international policy as well. 84 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,880 So the research was not only international policy, it was really to show how there is 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,520 an existence of gender bias in large language models, especially in the in models like chat 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,420 tpt, perplexity, you know, Gemini, there's not one that doesn't exist. 87 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:29,760 So it was really to give empirical evidence of the fact that there is, and how it is seen 88 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,960 and what it represents, and what impact it can have on society, and particularly on women 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,960 and girls. 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,960 But that was one. 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:43,160 The other papers that I'm working on is mostly on tech diplomacy, on innovation, and how 92 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,920 can that influence international relations as such. 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,920 I'm not surprised you made the Forbes list, hearing all of this. 94 00:05:52,920 --> 00:06:00,600 So not only are you a doctoral candidate, and the founder of the tech diplomacy forum, 95 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,560 and the founder of women in tech, and a mother of four. 96 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 All of these things put together. 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:15,800 That's I mean, how do you find the time to do all of it at once? 98 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,440 You know, I think it's passion, and one goes with the other. 99 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,760 You know, when I started my doctoral degree, a year and a half ago, even the professors 100 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,960 were saying, how are you going to be able to put it all together? 101 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,960 And so well, first, there's a lot of time instead of just swiping. 102 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Also, I don't watch TV. 103 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Besides, maybe half an hour of news or something. 104 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Just all the time that you can when you're not watching TV. 105 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,920 I also do a lot of traveling. 106 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,240 So when you're in the planes, when you're in the transport, you can do so much. 107 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,600 I think if you're really passionate about, then you always find the time to do research. 108 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,000 And what I've been loving about doing my doctorate is that before, like we never have, like time 109 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,080 is something that you cannot expand, right? 110 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,160 So you just have to then try and make sure that you prioritize things. 111 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,940 And if you don't prioritize, there's always something that you have to do. 112 00:07:07,940 --> 00:07:12,160 But if you put the priority into it, it's okay, that's not a priority, then someone 113 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,160 else will do it for me. 114 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Not that someone else will do it for me, but there's always someone that can do that better 115 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 than you can. 116 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Like you can do everything. 117 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,040 And then where my time will be most useful is for me to be doing my research, you know, 118 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 doing checking the checking information. 119 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,600 And then this work that I do for my DBA really works on my everyday work, whether it's going 120 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,040 to be for the tech diplomacy forum or with women in tech, empowering women, you know, 121 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,260 proposing things, talking to governments. 122 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:44,640 So this is why it's all interrelated. 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,800 So it's not like that after time. 124 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,800 I've seen that myself. 125 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,320 I don't watch TV either. 126 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,820 So most of my time I try to expand that and finding people who do things that are better 127 00:07:56,820 --> 00:08:02,280 at it than you, like that is a real trick to the trade. 128 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,680 And I'm not surprised to hear you say that as the founder of multiple organizations at 129 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,880 this point, and having 62 official chapters. 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Yes. 131 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,360 I just read a book recently, which is a great book. 132 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,720 I read it in December. 133 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,080 And honestly, I wish I had read it before, although it's called Who Not What. 134 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Have you read that book? 135 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 I haven't read that one, no. 136 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Yeah, it's called Who Not What. 137 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,760 And so many things that you can say, oh, I need to do that. 138 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,760 I need to do that. 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,240 I don't know how to, but you don't need to know how. 140 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Oh, who not how? 141 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Sorry, who not how? 142 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,240 And it's exactly this. 143 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,480 A formula for achieving bigger goals through accelerating teamwork. 144 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,480 Okay. 145 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Yes. 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Yes. 147 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,160 And it's just so, yeah, that's how you can expand things and do more and involve. 148 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,880 And there's also the fun part is working in teams. 149 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,560 So you always realize that for someone that's going to be their expertise, they're going 150 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:58,560 to be happy to do it. 151 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,080 They're going to do better than you. 152 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800 And then you don't have to do it. 153 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,480 So you can do other things where you're good at and then rely on people that do things 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,940 that can help you achieve the goal. 155 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:10,480 And everyone is excited about that. 156 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,600 So your only role, not only, but is know where it is that you want to do. 157 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,160 So you give the vision, then you make your team around and inspire them to reach that 158 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,840 vision, which is a common goal, right? 159 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,520 It's not something personal for me, but it's something that's going to be really for the 160 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,320 higher community and for the better of planet. 161 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,720 And so if you manage to get them excited, inspired, and that they see what the purpose 162 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,920 is, then it's unstoppable because people will want to be part of it because they see how 163 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,400 they can be a contributor, how they can help achieve that dream. 164 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,560 So it's teamwork, definitely. 165 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:54,400 And that, ladies and gentlemen, right there is how Ayumi is selected for one of 40 Women 166 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:01,720 Forums for 2023 and is founder of a hugely successful international organization with 167 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 62 chapters. 168 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,520 That right there is your reasoning. 169 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,800 That is very well explained. 170 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,800 Wow. 171 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Yeah, but it's a group. 172 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:21,840 So each member, I've got my group, my core team and the core team, we've got these regional 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:28,400 directors, we have chapter directors and each of them have their teams and then they've 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,800 got their community. 175 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,080 And this is how it goes, you know, like the ripple effect. 176 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,320 But ripple effect that really works because if there's one thing I'm proud and I'm good 177 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:44,520 at, if I can say, is surrounding myself with people that are authentic and positive because 178 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,160 it only works if you put positive people that genuinely want to do the work, that generally 179 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,400 believe in the mission and the values that you share. 180 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,680 One bad person, bad, and I'm saying that it's not aligned, there's no alignment, toxic energy, 181 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:01,800 it does not work. 182 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,440 So you have to be able to remove the people that is no longer aligned or that's not going 183 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:14,120 in the same direction and just keep the people that are really pushing it forward and inspiring 184 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:20,520 the others and doing it in a genuine, authentic, positive way. 185 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Yeah, definitely. 186 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Build the team, work on the mission and then we'll find the things that they are good at 187 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,360 and it just becomes that. 188 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,480 So Women in Tech, I had, so we talked about Founded in 2018. 189 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,240 I had that it's spread across 54 countries at this point. 190 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Yeah, you know, we opened. 191 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Your latest opening was Kyrgyzstan, right? 192 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Yes, Kyrgyzstan. 193 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,240 It was 10 days ago. 194 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,240 It was fabulous. 195 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,240 It was. 196 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 And it was fabulous. 197 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,720 I saw the pictures on LinkedIn and it was just wonderful. 198 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,960 I mean, how many people showed up to that? 199 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,160 That was, that looked like thousands of people. 200 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Yeah. 201 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,560 So first Kyrgyzstan, when you say, oh, we're opening Kyrgyzstan, no, you have to Google 202 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:12,480 and Google Maps know exactly where it is in the world. 203 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,560 And then I remember going there, we had to cross the border from Kyrgyzstan to Kyrgyzstan 204 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:17,560 by foot. 205 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:21,560 It was quite a, it was quite a mission, but I love the country. 206 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:24,560 You had to get there by foot? 207 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:29,640 Well, obviously you can fly in, but because of that, I had a conference in Kazakhstan 208 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,640 in Almaty the day before on the Saturday. 209 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,200 We said, well, it's easier. 210 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,640 And there were no flights in the evening and they had to be there in the morning. 211 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,840 I said, well, we have to go by car. 212 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,320 But the taxi couldn't cross the border. 213 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,360 So we had to go back. 214 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,120 So he left us on one side of the border and then we walked the border and then another 215 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,400 taxi picked us up on the other side. 216 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,960 And it was a snowing storm. 217 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,320 Oh God, you know, it was, I think the movies, it was, but it was fun. 218 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,920 It was really fun and everything went out super well. 219 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,160 And the next day, sunny, like lots of snow, but sunny. 220 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,880 And there were 1,100 people that came to our event on a Sunday morning. 221 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,920 Like God, no, me Sunday morning, I stay in bed or, you know, I have like a brunch or 222 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,920 something. 223 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,920 1,100 people came. 224 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:19,280 We had over 1,500 registrations, but 1,100 came, including the Minister of Economy, of 225 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Industry. 226 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,440 We had the UN Women, we had UN representatives, we had Ambassador of France, of Germany, of 227 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Kazakhstan, IT director. 228 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,400 We had the communities from Uzbekistan that came and from Kazakhstan as well. 229 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,160 So the whole of Central Asia was there just for us, just for women in tech. 230 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Well, not for us, but for what we stand for and what the vision is, you know, to empower, 231 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,840 to skill, to give more visibility to those women, especially the students that were there. 232 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:54,640 So it was extremely touching and it was great. 233 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,360 And that's not the first time I've seen such an illustrious list. 234 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:04,680 I mean, in some cases, I saw former presidents of France and Croatia in attendance in some 235 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:05,680 of your events. 236 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:06,680 It's very well attended. 237 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:13,440 Yeah, so former president Zoko Linde, Grabar Gitarovic, so she attended an event of Kosovo 238 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,440 as well. 239 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,760 We're very well connected to governments. 240 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:24,040 We are not part of any sort of non-governmental organization, but we know that if you want 241 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,360 to move things, we definitely want to work in collaboration with governments, so it facilitates 242 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,760 us working really on the ground, on the grassroots level. 243 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,840 We have had the high patronage of President Macron for the past three years on the role. 244 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,280 We don't get any funding from them. 245 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:46,600 We really like non-governmental independence, but we definitely have the recognition and 246 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,080 the moral support and encouragement of many different governments. 247 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Yeah, that is so awesome to see. 248 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Oh my gosh. 249 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:04,600 So women in tech, for those who don't know, advocacy, I pulled a quote from your website, 250 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:11,800 advocacy is the core of our mission to drive systemic change in the tech industry. 251 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:20,040 And also the mission is closing the gender gap and empowering women to embrace technology. 252 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Is there, what would you say is, so the four pillars, that's the part where I wanted to 253 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,880 understand a little bit more about. 254 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Four pillars and seven sustainable development goals, SDGs. 255 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Yes. 256 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:42,800 So we work on the four pillars so that we can really focus on different things, right? 257 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Because to close the gender gap. 258 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:52,600 So today in the workforce, we have 28.2% of the workforce are women, globally. 259 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,560 And for the past couple of years, it has not changed. 260 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Maybe 0. something percent, but the figures are moving very slowly and they are still 261 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,520 there. 262 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,400 And if it was just one main reason of that challenge, it would be easy to fix it because 263 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,960 if it was just, I don't know, school or whatever. 264 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,440 But in fact, we've identified many different things that were challenging for women that 265 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,440 don't empower them to come. 266 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,200 So first is education. 267 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:29,280 So whether the young girls, I was just at the UNESCO summit for women and girls in science 268 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,080 day, it was yesterday or the day before. 269 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,080 And in fact, there's empirical evidence has been research shown that a woman, a girl as 270 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,640 young as six years old already have stereotypes in her mind of what a scientist looks like. 271 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,640 And that's a man. 272 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,640 Right. 273 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,160 If you look at AI professionals, there are less than 20% of AI developers. 274 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,760 I think 12% AI developers are women. 275 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:58,680 And so it goes from, it comes from this pipeline from education, whether it's the stereotypes, 276 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:04,280 whether it's, you know, those kind of subjects that girls, they take at school and then afterwards 277 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 in the graduate university level. 278 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:13,760 In most part of the countries, I say, because in countries in regions like the Middle East, 279 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:20,560 so I say, Mina, whether it's Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, you find that in fact, there 280 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:26,760 are many, even more girls students in STEM subjects, like engineering, than men. 281 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,560 It's been like a boom over there. 282 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:35,560 However, when you go into transforming this talent and getting them into the workforce, 283 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,000 that's where it drops. 284 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,520 So whether you in the US, in Saudi Arabia, in Japan, it drops back to those 20, between 285 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,760 20 and 20 and 30%, let's say, according to the country. 286 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,520 So we had this massive talent that does not go into tech. 287 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,920 And what is your research shown is some of the challenges that you're tackling in that? 288 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,920 Yeah. 289 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,720 We've got the challenges of stereotypes, of media, of education and scaling. 290 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,880 So we have to skill them to be able to come into the workforce. 291 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,320 We have to skill them whether they are in a very young age or even once they're out 292 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,960 of school, if they want to pivot to coming to tech in a later stage in life. 293 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,400 They say today, every person has at least seven different jobs or careers that they 294 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,440 can have in a lifetime, like a cat. 295 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 So you can pivot at any time. 296 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Second pillar is business. 297 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,800 So the workforce, whether you're in corporate world or whether you are in the entrepreneurship 298 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,980 world, an entrepreneur, like a startup founder, it's very hard. 299 00:18:38,980 --> 00:18:45,360 In the corporate world, it's hard, once again, because the culture in the tech companies, 300 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:54,000 they are perhaps not as, how to say, as welcoming as they should be for many different reasons, 301 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,280 because you see, yeah. 302 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,960 And this you see not just because I'm saying so, but this is seen by the numbers. 303 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:04,200 I like this is my PhD kind of hats. 304 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Please, please, yes. 305 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:13,640 So data shows that there is more, the talent retention for women is much lower than that 306 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,600 of men in tech companies. 307 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,920 So then, and if you go to qualitative research, it says that they don't feel that it feels 308 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,200 like a like a boys club, not in all companies, of course, but this is the feeling. 309 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,440 And that's why there's less retention and more dropout of women in certain stages of 310 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,800 the career, whether it's early stage afterwards comes from motherhood. 311 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,080 So many fall out and then they they don't feel encouraged to come back in. 312 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,720 So that stage and then that's in the corporate world. 313 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,120 And then if you are a startup founder or in the entrepreneurship world, it's very hard 314 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,980 for women to get funding. 315 00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:57,600 So less than three percent of the funding of of overall investments go to female led 316 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,200 startups, which is nothing. 317 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Right. 318 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,420 Can you imagine it's it's it's peanuts. 319 00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:06,520 So trying to get. 320 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Companies and initiatives and businesses out when you don't have any money, you can have 321 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,000 all the energy you want, but at some point you need some cash. 322 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Right. 323 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,100 So so that's a difficult part. 324 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:24,280 And then another section is the digital inclusion, digital and social inclusion, because women, 325 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:32,400 they are 30 percent less likely to have access to Internet connection and devices than men. 326 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,840 So if you look at give you an example in in South Africa, in the global south, in South 327 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Africa, in many other countries, especially with the large families, when if you have 328 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,200 a large family, you have like one iPhone, I'm sorry, one smartphone for the whole family, 329 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,920 the girl will be the last one to get, you know, access to it, whether it's for the 330 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,820 to doing their school homework or to anything. 331 00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:01,680 And if they've got a small budget for education, they're going to be privileging the boy. 332 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,720 If there's a family like girls, then the girl because it's OK, she's going to get married. 333 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,240 She doesn't need to study or the boy does. 334 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,920 And so there's a lot of so the social inclusion. 335 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,680 We have to support the women to be able to be to get that education, to get access so 336 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,440 that they can be financially independent. 337 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Right. 338 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560 And then they can make businesses and stuff. 339 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,280 So social inclusion is very it's a very important pillar. 340 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,360 And for this, we even have learning centers. 341 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:32,640 We have two learning centers in South Africa, one in Cape Town in a township called Philippi 342 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:38,680 Village, where it's like a safe haven where we have computers, we'll have Wi-Fi and we 343 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,000 even give like lunch, you know, sometimes, you know, some food, because it's also a way 344 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:49,560 of retaining, getting the children to come to our center. 345 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,000 And I might say girls and boys, it's not because you're a boy, you cannot come. 346 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,360 We make sure that we're going to be reaching out to girls so they encourage them to come. 347 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,000 Otherwise they feel that they don't belong. 348 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,960 But boys are also well-possessed. 349 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,680 The same as Burundi and in Brazil as well. 350 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,520 And the fourth pillar is advocacy and advocacy in many ways. 351 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,920 I've seen through my my career now with Women in Tech that we can do amazing work on the 352 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,920 ground. 353 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:24,040 But if you really want to move things and shift mindset and and go quicker, we have 354 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,480 to be not only on the grassroots level, but you also have to be at the top level, top 355 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:35,960 level where decisions are being made with governments, with policymakers, with presidents 356 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,280 so that they can have this brand awareness and they can also support us with policies. 357 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,880 So we need both. 358 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640 We need to be really on the ground, but we also really need to be speaking to those who 359 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:54,120 are making the laws so they can see our perspective and fight for our rights. 360 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:58,840 I can see why Women in Tech is so successful. 361 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 It's a very well-developed strategy. 362 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,240 It's a very well-developed position and what you're focusing on. 363 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:11,240 And some of the impact that I was looking at was and this segues quite well into this 364 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:19,280 the SIP as well, the improvement proposal, skilling with education, water to rural Zambia, 365 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,560 supporting women entrepreneurs and involving world leaders. 366 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,120 Very closely aligned with what you just spoke on. 367 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,120 Yeah. 368 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,920 Yes, yes, yes. 369 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Everything is connected, right? 370 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,800 We can't say, okay, we're just doing this, we're just doing that. 371 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,600 We have to do a bit of everything. 372 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,120 And because we're not good in everything, that's why we've got teams that are dedicated 373 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,200 to different sectors. 374 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,000 And then some countries are not so involved in, I don't know, like social inclusion. 375 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,120 Maybe that's more like for the African countries and then maybe for instance, our USA team, 376 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:55,840 they're going to be more working on female entrepreneurship or in influence. 377 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,840 So it depends. 378 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960 It's also very personal, right? 379 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Because it's a lot of volunteer work that we have around the world. 380 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,120 So our leaders, they have to be really intimately and passionate about what they're going to 381 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,160 be doing on the ground because they're not paid for to do it. 382 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320 So if the work that they're really passionate about is going to be skilling education, that's 383 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,320 it. 384 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,480 But my South African director, she's passionate about rural areas because she comes from a 385 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,600 rural area. 386 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 So she's there trying to make a school in a rural area. 387 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,360 So it's very personal as well. 388 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:33,440 So they can choose as long as it's aligned in one of our four panels. 389 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,360 And what was that, the kids lab or the make-a-thon? 390 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,680 So the make-a-thon, we did it in Nigeria. 391 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,380 So she's very much into entrepreneurship. 392 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:48,240 So her vest and the make-a-thon is really to try to scale the women's world to make them 393 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,560 build their businesses. 394 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,200 And the kids lab, we do it in Cape Verde and in Portugal. 395 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,200 These are more like the Portuguese countries. 396 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,620 It's a program that they developed, designed from the beginning. 397 00:24:58,620 --> 00:24:59,960 So they've implemented it. 398 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,240 And I love that one. 399 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,360 I love the kids lab. 400 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,480 That's so cool. 401 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:14,200 The last thing I wanted to go over as our context was the Women in Tech Global Summit. 402 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:21,680 So the summit itself, I mentioned before in different events, you've had former presidents. 403 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,280 You mentioned former president Macron. 404 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Yes. 405 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,200 I don't know his patronage. 406 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080 So he didn't come because he couldn't. 407 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,960 But he has given his high patronage, which is very rare and it's a real token of... 408 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240 I must not have understood that term when I read it. 409 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,480 What does high patronage mean? 410 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040 High patronage means it's under his blessings. 411 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,920 He approves his supports, his signs. 412 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,800 He says, no, delivered. 413 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,800 It's like a certificate. 414 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,800 I don't know. 415 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,080 It's like saying, okay, this is under our blessing. 416 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Got it. 417 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Got it. 418 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,080 Okay. 419 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Because that's... 420 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,080 It's difficult to get. 421 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 It's not just like, oh, yeah, we've got high patronage. 422 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,080 No. 423 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,160 It's like a whole thing to get the high patronage of the president. 424 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,520 And you have the next summit coming up here in April in Osaka? 425 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Yes, in Osaka, Japan. 426 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440 And why Osaka? 427 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,640 Because this year, 2025, Osaka is going to be hosting the World Expo, Universal Expo 428 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,280 2025, which is an event that only happens every five years in a different country. 429 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,080 So last summit was in Dubai. 430 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,080 This time is Osaka. 431 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,000 And in five years, it's going to be in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia. 432 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,880 And so we're going to be part of the Expo. 433 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,480 So that's like... 434 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520 For us, it's also a huge milestone. 435 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,520 I'm seeing here 650 delegates. 436 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,280 There's going to be 80 speakers across three days. 437 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Yes. 438 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Yes. 439 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,120 Three days because there is the Expo. 440 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,120 So it's such a... 441 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:53,880 There's going to be such a rich content. 442 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,920 And also because Osaka and Japan is far from us. 443 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,680 So if you go to Osaka, you're not going to go there for like half a day or one day or 444 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,680 two days. 445 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,440 So we're really putting together this experience so that people can not only discover Japan, 446 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:16,400 but mostly the Expo and also our own program, our Global Summit, which brings together... 447 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,800 It's almost like a G20 for us. 448 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,160 It's like our high level summit where we have delegations from our different countries coming 449 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:28,720 together and we have these high level discussions as well. 450 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:36,240 And so 2023 to 25 April, Osaka, Japan, fourth annual. 451 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,040 And good. 452 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,880 So these are some things I wanted to go over before we delve into the SIP itself because 453 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,880 they're very central. 454 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,720 As I was reading through the SIP, very central to the things that you're asking and the things 455 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,160 that you would like to submit for in the proposal. 456 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,080 So what is it that led you to writing the SIP? 457 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Oh, how did I forget? 458 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Your involvement as SanFam began as far as I could tell two years ago when you did a 459 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440 collaboration with World of Women and Nabila. 460 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,760 Yes, Nabila Studio. 461 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:23,480 So you did a collaboration with World of Women and Nabila to do an experience. 462 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,680 And I have it here up now where it was a WOW Museum. 463 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,680 Yeah. 464 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:35,120 So the WOW Museum became like the women in tech headquarters for a couple of, for a certain 465 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,120 time. 466 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:42,680 And it was Nabila Studio, who's a female led designer, you know, for games and environments 467 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:49,320 who did the World of Women, who designed it for us, put it under our color and where we 468 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,600 had activations inside with our community. 469 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480 And that was super successful. 470 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,640 And what I loved was really this collaboration between us and the World of Women, because 471 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,080 we're all about collaboration. 472 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440 We're not saying, okay, we're going to be changing the world by ourselves. 473 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:10,160 I think the more women led initiatives, inclusion initiatives, belonging initiatives that exist 474 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,040 around the world, the better they are, because it means that there's a real need. 475 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840 And so collaborating and working with them was a real joy. 476 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,000 It was really exciting. 477 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640 And then in, let's see. 478 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Okay. 479 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,640 All right. 480 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,560 So those are some key center context for what we're about to go over next, which was the 481 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,440 SIP itself. 482 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:41,400 And it looks like, pull it up here for everyone can see. 483 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,960 The SIP is Empowering Women in Web3, a strategic partnership between Women and Tech Global 484 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,280 and the Sandbox DAO. 485 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Okay. 486 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,640 So the first thing I wanted to know about is how this SIP would impact lives. 487 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,600 And at this point, I'm just going to go over the questions, even though you've gone over 488 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:10,840 a number of the answers through World of Women, the Global Summit, the reasons why it exists 489 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,600 in the first place. 490 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,600 And the SIP mentions educational programs and key market areas. 491 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Yes. 492 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,320 How did you come to focus on those key market areas? 493 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:30,200 I see India, Japan, Singapore, Philippines, and Malaysia. 494 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:39,120 So talking to the community, we've been to different meetups, also in Paris or in Japan. 495 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:46,640 So that was a feedback of the key focus areas or the countries that they would be more interested 496 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,080 in knowing that we are all over the world. 497 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:56,920 So if the target area would change, it's easy for us to change as well. 498 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,240 But I think those countries are where there's a lot of sandboxed communities already and 499 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,960 then where we would like to be able to develop to make it even more present through education. 500 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:16,280 We've had similar experiences with other stakeholders in the Web3 industry, mostly like in the blockchain 501 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:23,680 and I can say that Cardano Foundation, where we launched a Cardano Foundation Academy within 502 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560 our own academy. 503 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:38,000 And honestly, in a couple of weeks, we already had 5,000 women take courses in the Cardano 504 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Foundation Academy hosted in our platform. 505 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:49,280 So there's a real demand from our community to learn these things. 506 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,280 They want to learn. 507 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,280 They're eager there. 508 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,280 Why do they join us? 509 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Because they've got access to mentoring, free access to training, to skilling, and to the 510 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,320 community. 511 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,560 And that's what women want. 512 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,160 They want to belong, they want to learn, and they want to be visible, and they want to 513 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,160 create. 514 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Those are the main things women want. 515 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,480 So this is what we give them. 516 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,360 And some are going to be more interested in perhaps in a certain thing, and others are 517 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,720 going to be interested in something else. 518 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,120 And so many don't know the world of gaming, the world of the sandbox. 519 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400 And this is why we want to give this to them. 520 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400 This is, look, have you thought of it? 521 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,400 You haven't. 522 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,800 If you want to come in, we will help you. 523 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,920 We will scale you. 524 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280 We will take you through it. 525 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,920 And you like it, you like it, you don't like it, you don't. 526 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,840 But at least they have the choice and they know it exists. 527 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,600 And we give them the tools to belong. 528 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,560 And the tools, the skilling in particular, some of the things that I see in the SIP here. 529 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:55,480 So you would be teaching them about VoxEdit, GameMaker, what sort of skilling? 530 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,960 So we try to see what skilling does not exist yet, or is not super available, and also how 531 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,720 women, how they would like. 532 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Because we want them to get involved, to learn, but also to be active makers, creators afterwards. 533 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200 So to learn what the ecosystem is, how it works, but also propose. 534 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,480 So how can they become game makers, creators? 535 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,520 How can they do different things? 536 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,700 How can they make money, make living out of it? 537 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:26,840 How can they do marketing? 538 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360 How can they bring brands? 539 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,280 So we want to give them skills, not just to belong, but also to be able to make their 540 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,000 business, to develop businesses as well. 541 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:48,240 And so I was reading down below in the entrepreneurism part, tripping all over that word, where they 542 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,480 provide, where mentorship and coaching will be provided. 543 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360 Super important. 544 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,360 Yes. 545 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Tell me a little about that. 546 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,920 How does that pair with the educational programs? 547 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,920 Is it entrepreneurism? 548 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,920 Is it there, or is it elsewhere? 549 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,320 It is so important, the mentoring part, honestly. 550 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,840 Because in the life's journey of, so I'm really talking about the women and girls, right? 551 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:26,880 And they feel that they are supported, whether it's they go so much further, right? 552 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,560 And then so many more doors open. 553 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,880 So we've had our mentoring program for years already, and we've had thousands, really thousands 554 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,360 of women that has gone through it. 555 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,600 And we've got numbers and numbers of testimonials. 556 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:47,360 And we see how their careers and personal lives can improve because of mentoring. 557 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,200 Because we really support, we say, we've got your back and it's OK. 558 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,200 How do you learn? 559 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,640 How they feel that they're not alone. 560 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,600 And the completion rate of any program when you've done with a mentor and without a mentor 561 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,120 is not at all the same. 562 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,880 I think we've got 99% of completion rate when you've got a mentor. 563 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,800 Compared to when you're just on your own, you think, oh, no, I'll do it again. 564 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Oh, I'm not good enough. 565 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,880 When you're not part of a cohort or of a, so we've got free courses that they can do 566 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,880 a self-pacing. 567 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,880 That's fine. 568 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Many people do it, but many people don't go to the end of it. 569 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,200 However, when you are in a cohort and you belong, you are in a class, you always have 570 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,680 someone to support you. 571 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,560 When you're in a group, you feel like you're more driven by it. 572 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480 So you've got your class and you've got a mentor. 573 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,480 So it's OK. 574 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,120 This is how it can also help you go through the steps, give you advice, career advice 575 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080 and other kinds of advice. 576 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:51,960 So it's been a very successful formula that we've had for years. 577 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,880 And so it's important. 578 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,400 And so 99% completion rate with a mentor, I think that kind of speaks for itself right 579 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,400 there. 580 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,400 Yeah. 581 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,000 Can you tell me a little bit about the social inclusion program? 582 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,120 I wasn't able to quite decipher what that translated into. 583 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,920 So the social inclusion is giving access to those who don't generally have access and 584 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640 giving them digital literacy courses for those who don't. 585 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,800 And also really specifically going. 586 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:30,320 So we have a center in a favela in Brazil, in a community in Brazil, and they have already 587 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,600 learned blockchain. 588 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,680 So we worked with Binance Academy as well a couple of years ago where we trained 1200 589 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,360 women and girls and boys and boys in Africa, Brazil, et cetera. 590 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:51,440 And so we gave them this Web3 literacy in these underprivileged places. 591 00:36:51,440 --> 00:37:01,320 You don't have to be back in a privilege or rich kind of environment or university. 592 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,120 These kids, they don't go to school, many of them. 593 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,900 They don't have access because it's too dangerous because of all these different things. 594 00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:14,000 So we also want to give them access to this latest technology, to Web3, because for us 595 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,320 it's a way for them to break the cycle of violence, of illiteracy, of poverty. 596 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,800 It's giving them access to this latest technology. 597 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:30,440 And maybe through this they will be able to come into, to give a better future for not 598 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:38,560 only for themselves, but also for their families and the communities around. 599 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:45,520 And so when I'm looking through this SIPP itself, which part would you say connects 600 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,400 to the social inclusion program? 601 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,920 I'm seeing the global event sponsorships. 602 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,080 I don't think it's that one. 603 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,000 Maybe in the educational programs where you have the academies? 604 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Educational programs, yeah. 605 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Okay. 606 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Yes, definitely educational programs. 607 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Okay. 608 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000 All right, makes sense. 609 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:09,440 And I just want to say in the chat, Tom Vauxhall said he's also collabed with three very talented 610 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,440 women all over the world. 611 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,880 And it seems like there's a connection there to women in tech. 612 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,520 So Tom Vauxhall is a really well-known sandbox creator. 613 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,680 So I'm happy to see that the collaboration goes much further than just a collaboration 614 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,520 for Nabila. 615 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,720 And also it seems like y'all are connected with the sandbox, awesome Tom. 616 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,040 So that's really cool to see. 617 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,040 All right. 618 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:40,160 And the next one was events and advocacy activities, which I think was pretty closely aligned with 619 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960 what I'm reading here in the global event sponsorships. 620 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:51,440 So Davos, Osaka Summit, and regional and global award support. 621 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,360 So I saw the, I will get into the sponsorship of the awards category, but can you talk to 622 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,520 me a little bit about the Davos, which I saw also that you had just attended when we almost, 623 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,080 almost did our interview in Davos. 624 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,080 I know. 625 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:15,120 But I have a video because we met with Seb a couple of times in Davos, including our 626 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,040 Women in Tech Global Council dinner, which was a launch there. 627 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,760 As I said, it's important to be where the main conversations with key global stakeholders 628 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,760 are taking place. 629 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,760 We want to be part of it. 630 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,680 We don't want to be at the bottom of the conversation. 631 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,400 Once again, it's super important to be on the ground, doing the ground work, but we 632 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,040 have to be where the decisions are being made. 633 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,040 And Davos is that place. 634 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,960 Davos is so important because not only do we see what conversations are being shaped, 635 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,200 where they're going, but we can be part of them. 636 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:56,720 So I was speaking in the World Economic Forum in this, it was a credit session together 637 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:02,640 with other like entity, Microsoft inside, where we announced the Osaka protocol, which 638 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:09,200 we will be signing in Osaka in April, which is this global framework, policy framework, 639 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,960 well, not policy really, but it's mostly like a commitment framework where public and 640 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,440 private sector organisations can commit. 641 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,200 Because one thing is, okay, yeah, we pledge to have more women, we pledge to skill. 642 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,960 Yes, but we don't want you to pledge. 643 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,080 We want you to do one thing is pledging and saying, yeah, we support, but you do it because 644 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,120 we all need to say, okay, what can I do to support? 645 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,280 So we are doing this. 646 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:40,720 So the Osaka protocol is a way for every single organisation to be able to commit to either 647 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:47,480 scaling, other training, other bringing devices or helping in some quantitative way. 648 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,440 Like you have to be able to measure and to transform and to report the numbers so that 649 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,860 we can impact so many women by 2030. 650 00:40:56,860 --> 00:41:02,000 So our original goal was five million, which we're so hoping for. 651 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:08,200 But obviously, because we are looking at a much wider global reach with the partners 652 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,200 with this global alliance, we're looking at at least 50 million now. 653 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200 So it's going to be scaling. 654 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,880 Yes, 50 million. 655 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,520 And the sandbox through our partnership would also be committing then, okay, the sandbox 656 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:26,960 commits to, you know, skill so many people by 2030, etc, etc. 657 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,880 So it's a real commitment, right? 658 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,240 It's not legally binding because we wanted to make it flexible enough for people to commit. 659 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:39,240 They're not going to go to pay a fine if they don't do it. 660 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:43,640 But you have to really commit so you can you know that you want to do it. 661 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,960 And then and then every year, like every quarter, there's going to be a very transparent reporting 662 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,240 system so that we can see where we are at. 663 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,600 And yeah, and we shall go because at the end of the day, this is what we want to do. 664 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,080 And that was and that was one of my questions back was the metrics of it. 665 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,600 Like how were you going to what were those metrics going to be? 666 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,760 How were you going to measure them? 667 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:18,640 And then at what point would we be able to see those metrics if we were able to see them 668 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,120 so that we could do our own kind of assessment? 669 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Of course. 670 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,920 So we're not trying to embarrass anyone just I'd love to see those results. 671 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,680 No, I think I believe in transparency in all the way. 672 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,100 And if we know numbers and not just numbers, they realize impacted. 673 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:40,000 So if they impacted the one life of 50 million, you know, this is this is really what what 674 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 works. 675 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:47,120 So we wanted to be able to put in the Osaka Protocol things that you can count literally 676 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,360 like one, two, three, four. 677 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,640 How many girls women once again have been finished this program? 678 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,640 How many started? 679 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,640 How many finished? 680 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,940 How many women were found a job? 681 00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:00,260 How many did this? 682 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:01,880 How many scholarships within? 683 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,520 How many took that university degree, etc. 684 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,520 So all these things. 685 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,260 So it's quite extensive. 686 00:43:08,260 --> 00:43:13,480 So we have Osaka Protocol I can share afterwards for you. 687 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,080 So we're still looking the draft. 688 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480 I read the Osaka Protocol and the women. 689 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,480 Yes. 690 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Yeah, it's inspired by the Kyoto Protocol. 691 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,320 I saw exactly. 692 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,400 So it's inspired by the Kyoto Protocol in the sense that we want commitments, right? 693 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,720 So what do they commit to? 694 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:34,600 And then we can't and then every every quarter, maybe not course, are we every semester, every 695 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,560 half of the year, six months, we have our the people, the signatories, the ones we have 696 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,000 the committed to do something to give us their impact report can be and the impact report 697 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,040 we are building right now. 698 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,600 This platform that's going to be on the block chain because we want it to be immutable and 699 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,320 transparent and they're going to be saying, OK, I don't know, entity, they've impacted 700 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,320 so much. 701 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,320 We've done so much. 702 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,880 We've done so much for the members. 703 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,120 And so we can trace and we can see and if you reach 50 million better, wonderful. 704 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,580 If we didn't, if you reach more, even better. 705 00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:07,560 And if we didn't, why didn't we? 706 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,920 You know, we're not there to say, oh, you didn't do this. 707 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,560 Say this is what we aspire to do and we're putting everything in place to do it. 708 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,080 If we didn't, let's look at the reasons. 709 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,080 How can we do better? 710 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,080 What can we change? 711 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,220 And if it worked, great, let's do bigger and better. 712 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:26,480 It's really a way just to measure to and to to keep track and once again to be transparent. 713 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,360 We believe in in being the credibility comes when you when you deliver and you're transparent 714 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,560 about it. 715 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,680 And so I was looking at the commitments, you know, the STEM education and skills. 716 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,720 Number two is representation, leadership and entrepreneurship. 717 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:46,480 Commitment number three was digital access and inclusion. 718 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,280 Number four is ethical technology development. 719 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:55,440 And so that's the only one, sorry, that we cannot measure as such because we can say, 720 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,240 we I mean, so the there are four pledges. 721 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,600 So the pledges, right? 722 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,600 Objectives. 723 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,000 However, the commitments come to the tops to the first three because those we can measure. 724 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,200 And the fourth one is a pledge to the yes, we are going to be supporting, you know, ethical 725 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,040 development of emerging technologies. 726 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,160 However, it's not something that you can measure the impact just to be clear. 727 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,680 OK, OK. 728 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,720 And so the timeline was this was originally announced at the World Economic Forum and 729 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:28,800 Davos, which you previously mentioned, and then April 24th of this year is where that 730 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,760 official sign in launch of the Osaka Protocol is expected to happen. 731 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:38,000 The 25th, in fact, yes, it's going to be on Friday. 732 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,480 Got it. 733 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,480 All right. 734 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:47,280 And so inspired by it, so the Kyoto Protocol had bonding commitments where it addresses 735 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,560 challenges that women face in digital society. 736 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,520 And this Osaka Protocol, there is a pledging commitment framework. 737 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,080 And that's where the training and the reporting system that you just mentioned, how does it 738 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,560 report on the block chain? 739 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,560 Good question. 740 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,560 This is why we're working with blockchain experts. 741 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,560 And what's the got it? 742 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Yeah, we're building it. 743 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,560 Yeah, we are building it. 744 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,560 Yeah. 745 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,560 And hence the reason. 746 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,560 OK, got it. 747 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,560 I guess I you're still building it. 748 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,560 All right. 749 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,560 We don't want it to be too complicated. 750 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,840 Yeah, they know like people, they have to be able to, you know, to give us the we see 751 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,560 what the metrics are, what exactly what it falls under and just put it in a in a in a 752 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,560 dashboard where it can be traceable. 753 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,920 Got it. 754 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:40,560 OK, so this SIP, in addition to to enabling the education in those key markets, the entrepreneurism, 755 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:46,040 the coaching, the mentorship, the social inclusion programs and the events and advocacy, both 756 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,240 at the Osaka Protocol and in Osaka. 757 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,800 I mean, it is in Osaka. 758 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Yeah, it's in Osaka. 759 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,440 Also, the last thing I saw was the sponsorship of world and women category in women and tech 760 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,440 global awards. 761 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,440 Yes. 762 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,440 Yes. 763 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,160 So important because we want to give visibility to women. 764 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560 And we're seeing right now how women are being erased. 765 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,520 Some sometimes know from from from the work they've been doing. 766 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,800 So we want to give visibility to women and those that are doing great things in the space 767 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:28,020 and have them be ambassadors to have more women follow their footsteps. 768 00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:32,680 So it's a very important thing that we do with the women in global awards. 769 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,760 So we've got three reasons for the global awards. 770 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,140 First obviously is to give visibility to women. 771 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:44,760 So many times we go on conferences and most of the experts are men. 772 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:50,440 Again, I love that they are experts, but I'm sure that we we also want to have female experts 773 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,960 to lead the way as well. 774 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,160 I think there can be a nice balance between both. 775 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,160 And sometimes they don't. 776 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,680 They people say, well, we can't find them because they're not visible. 777 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:08,000 So it's a way to go reach out, identify the women who are doing remarkable work in that 778 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,600 in that part of tech, in Web3, across the world. 779 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,240 So from the global awards, which were the first four years, which is global, I decided 780 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:21,200 when you look at the at the finals, the nominees at the end, they were mostly I don't know, 781 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,760 US, Europe, and they didn't really represent the entire world. 782 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,360 This is why I decided three or four years ago to really make regional awards. 783 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,600 So there would be Latam. 784 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:37,160 So we divided the world into seven different regions, Latam, Africa, Europe, North America, 785 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,400 APEC, Middle East, focuses Central Asia, and then the regional awards. 786 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,480 They would do like the preliminary and then the winners of each one of those go to the 787 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:54,680 global so that the end of the day, every single region is represented in every single category. 788 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,180 So it's really global. 789 00:48:56,180 --> 00:49:01,120 And then so imagine the way that we can identify all these hundreds of women from around the 790 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:09,360 world and make them be like ambassadors for the industry in their own region. 791 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,600 This means that we can really penetrate the market so much deeper and really be true to 792 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,720 this grassroot level that we want. 793 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:23,280 And so the sandbox in this SIP would sponsor women in Web3 category? 794 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,880 Yeah, exactly. 795 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,560 Women in Web3. 796 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:33,320 I find that one on the website because I've been that I'm not able to see it on the website. 797 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,320 So maybe so. 798 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,640 Yeah, because we've got a couple of websites as women in tech dash awards.com. 799 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:47,440 And then if you go to the to the different categories in the global awards. 800 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200 And also last year, we didn't do all the other regions. 801 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,200 Right. 802 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,800 So I think we're just a global and perhaps one or two regions that was by the sandbox. 803 00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,440 So this year, what we would like, that's really our wish is for for the sandbox to be able 804 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,800 to sponsor all the regions because then it makes sense. 805 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,800 Oh, I see. 806 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,800 I see. 807 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,800 Got it. 808 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,800 We're talking all the regions. 809 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,360 Yeah, all the regions including global. 810 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,600 It's just a global bit in the regions, you know, like you miss out on on the events that 811 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,320 we do on the ground in the regions because we really do a world tour. 812 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,880 Like it's not it's not online. 813 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:24,560 Our events, our events are obviously we can do online, but we go this as a physical place 814 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,760 or like some we do it in Peru. 815 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,760 This year, we're going to be doing Panama and the North America. 816 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,920 We've been doing Washington, D.C. for the past two years. 817 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:39,120 Now we're going to go to Canada and then any from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan for the APEC 818 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,120 Awards. 819 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,680 We're going to Kyoto this year. 820 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:47,400 So we're doing also in Japan and we're doing in the bag in the IBS, which is one of the 821 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,800 of Japan's and regions like largest startup and crypto kind of environment conference 822 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,400 with thousands of people. 823 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,160 So we have a whole vertical just for women in tech, which is not only just the awards 824 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,840 that the awards are made as part, but generally we do like a summit the whole day. 825 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,840 So people come. 826 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,840 There are panels. 827 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:15,320 There are stands, you know, the representatives and then the cherry on the top is the awards. 828 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,720 That's not just the awards. 829 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:22,280 We do lots of activations also on the ground. 830 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:28,440 Like when you do the Africa Awards, we go to Philippa Village, we go to universities, 831 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,840 we do things around because if you travel, they're not just to give the award, but we 832 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,720 do many different things. 833 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,720 And on top of it, we do the award. 834 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,760 Got it. 835 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760 OK. 836 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,560 And so the other question that we're rolling into was how how does it connect to the sandbox 837 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,240 ecosystem? 838 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:53,520 And one of the things that you had responded to me on the forums was that it expands the 839 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,400 sandboxes present at many of these prestigious events. 840 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,140 And then it's also has a sustainable impact through education. 841 00:52:02,140 --> 00:52:11,440 So it meets a lot of our education initiatives as well. 842 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:18,440 I think that pretty much well speaks for itself now at this point. 843 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,360 The budget I saw is two hundred fifty thousand sand, which is about one hundred and forty 844 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,360 thousand US dollars. 845 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,280 But that was in the beginning, Lanza. 846 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:32,520 So now talking to the people from the Dow and the community, they suggested that we 847 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,360 break it down per not like one takes it all. 848 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,640 And we break it down by by pillar. 849 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,640 Right. 850 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,940 So the first one that we brought it, that's the most urgent because it's the one coming 851 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,720 up is our global summit in Paris. 852 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,040 Oh, sorry, not in Paris, in Osaka in April. 853 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,740 So this is why we had that a sip just for the Osaka. 854 00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:58,040 So that can be done in a quicker way and the budget then it's smaller because just the 855 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,800 budget for the Osaka. 856 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:05,600 And then afterwards we'll go through, we'll do different sips for the different parts 857 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,800 of it, of the events, the education, etc. 858 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,400 Got it. 859 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:20,120 So there's global event sponsorship, there's educational programs, but you get about half 860 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,120 of it. 861 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,920 So it's very consistent with what you've been saying so far about how important education 862 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,920 is. 863 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,400 Another 40% to the global event sponsorships, which we already discussed, and then 20% to 864 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,400 the Osaka protocol. 865 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,400 Yeah. 866 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,400 Okay. 867 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,400 Yes, and it's important to see. 868 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040 And sometimes they say, yeah, we support, we support. 869 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,680 Yeah, but no, put your makesh commit to what you're doing and then money where your mouth 870 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,680 is away. 871 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,720 So money, money, money. 872 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:47,720 Exactly. 873 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:53,280 So then in the implementation timeline here, we have quarter one, you would launch those 874 00:53:53,280 --> 00:54:00,080 event sponsorships, which would be the Osaka coming up. 875 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:06,840 Again, Academy set up in those initial markets that we talked about in you said India, Malaysia 876 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,880 specifically, but the rest of the key Asian areas that we discussed. 877 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,480 Protocol framework finalization. 878 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,480 So the Osaka protocol. 879 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,480 Yeah. 880 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:21,040 Well, we're working on right now because it's going to be launched in all signed in, in 881 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,840 Osaka in April. 882 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,200 So we've already started working with it in the joint Davos. 883 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,040 And then now we're working with the scary committee. 884 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,800 And then we're going to be signing it in, in Osaka. 885 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:39,840 And then phase two, which would be quarter two, that would be the protocol, the summit 886 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,440 and assign itself launching of academies in Japan and Philippines. 887 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,400 So you're now expanding in those key markets you were discussing. 888 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,260 Your impact assessment. 889 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:53,920 So I assume that would be like the reporting, the metrics that you. 890 00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:01,960 Then phase three, later on in this year, Singapore, on scene in Singapore, which I know a number 891 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,680 of San Fam. 892 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,920 So I've had previous guests on a number of which who are from Singapore. 893 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:17,000 And you know, I've never been to Singapore, so this year I want to go to Dr. Loretta Chen 894 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,760 would love to host you. 895 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,760 Okay. 896 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,440 She's an advisory board member, but she's from Singapore. 897 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:28,760 And I have, we've had her on to discuss her views as an advisory board member, wonderful 898 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,760 person. 899 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,800 Also, she has her own studio. 900 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,680 So I bet you there's a collaboration there that could happen. 901 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,680 You make the introduction. 902 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,680 I'm sure. 903 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,680 Yeah. 904 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,640 She's a wonderful, wonderful person, very much an advocate for many of the things that 905 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,560 you've been mentioning so far. 906 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:52,420 So anyways, she from Singapore, regional award events, global award ceremony, and then another 907 00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:53,420 impact report. 908 00:55:53,420 --> 00:56:00,040 So I'm loving the fact that you've made reporting and kind of showing what it is that you've 909 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,440 been doing part of your phasing here. 910 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:10,440 Not only because I think people want to know what we do, but I think it's also it's recognition 911 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,760 for the work of our teams. 912 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,160 Like we say, okay, this is what you've done. 913 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960 Look, look at what you've done. 914 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,960 Thank you. 915 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,960 Congratulations. 916 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,240 You know, we do, we work a lot with, with volunteers on the ground. 917 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:28,160 So this is a recognition of their work, you know, so it's important to show. 918 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:34,800 And I also have as a program manager myself, I have a love of, of risk analysis and your 919 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:40,480 risk analysis has not only identifying what the risk is, like event participation, educational 920 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,340 program adoption, protocol implementation, budget management, and those risks that many 921 00:56:45,340 --> 00:56:53,160 people like all of us, we face the low participation rates, the varying adoptions that across markets. 922 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,520 So not every, as we mentioned the very beginning, not every market looks at that adoption the 923 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,840 same way, different pressures and conditions, delayed stakeholder adoptions. 924 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080 Right underneath it, you have all the mitigations that you're going to do. 925 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:14,720 How you're going to do a phased approach with very clear incentives, work with at the local 926 00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,320 level and customize per the culture and the conditions. 927 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:24,000 This is important because we've got these different levels and we work with teams on 928 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000 the ground. 929 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000 They are there. 930 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000 So they tell us, yes, we can. 931 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,000 No, we can't. 932 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,000 We've got holidays here. 933 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,200 We've got that this cultural, there's a cultural barrier. 934 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,480 You should, you know, reach it this way. 935 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,020 We should change the wording. 936 00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,840 We are there to support and to make it work. 937 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,320 And then our teams will tell us how to make it work. 938 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,480 And then we'll try different things because this is how we know. 939 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,900 And because we've got seven years experience, we have already pretty much tried different 940 00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:50,600 things that we've seen what works and what doesn't work. 941 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,600 So I think we can learn from our previous mistakes and we'll obviously we'll continue 942 00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:01,560 learning, but we're very agile in the sense that we can, you know, quickly pivot to adapt. 943 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,560 Yeah. 944 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,720 And hence probably why I'm seeing in your contingency, which contingency just means 945 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,900 backup, your backup plan. 946 00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:13,840 So that's where you like in your education program, if you had varying adoptions and 947 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,040 that risk were to be realized, you have then a flexible curriculum that you would then 948 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,600 re-approach with. 949 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,880 So maybe you wouldn't have the entirety of the curriculum. 950 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:29,280 You would tailor it to make it a little bit more adopted in that. 951 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,800 I'm a big fan of the way you approach these risks. 952 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,360 You had your risk, your mitigation, and then what you're going to do about it as your contingency. 953 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,360 I loved it. 954 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,280 I just thought that was a special note. 955 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,480 Thank you, Lanza. 956 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,820 Awesome. 957 00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:45,340 I think we have hit just about everything. 958 00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:51,280 The only thing that I wanted to end with was what was it that led to you writing the SIP? 959 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,720 I know you have previous collaborations with SandFam and the Sandbox. 960 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,400 Was there something specific where you said Sandbox is definitely the right partner for 961 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,400 us on this? 962 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:13,640 Honestly, I've seen how the Sandbox ecosystem, the Sandboxers, the family, the management 963 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,200 team as well. 964 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:22,040 I'm deeply engaged and I love the vision and the whole atmosphere. 965 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,200 I think it's authentic. 966 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,280 I think the work you guys are doing are great. 967 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,480 I think it really aligns with what similar values. 968 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:39,440 I'm very happy in the sense that we've got the luxury of being able to choose the partners 969 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,440 we want to work with. 970 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,920 It's so hard the way we're doing it, so we don't just want to partner to partner. 971 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:51,640 We want to partner with people and with companies, with communities that have the same values, 972 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,040 the shared mission, so whether it's going to be through the education, whether it's 973 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,160 going to be the Web3. 974 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,880 The only gaming partner we have is Sandbox because we've identified it as the most valuable, 975 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,480 the most authentic and the most positive environment for our women to be in. 976 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,560 Because we've seen the work you've done with the World of Women, because we've already 977 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,200 experienced for the past two years, now we feel ready. 978 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,640 We say, okay, we know that they walk the talk. 979 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:26,600 We feel comfortable and we want to be a bigger part of it now. 980 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,280 Wow. 981 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,160 I'm a supporter. 982 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,320 I support what you're doing here. 983 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,200 I think there is a definite connection. 984 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,640 And it's not the first time that you have been involved in Sandfam, so that you're not 985 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,040 a new face. 986 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,280 Even if some people might not have known that you were behind some of these collaborations, 987 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,320 very clearly you've been involved in Sandfam before. 988 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,920 And Walpax in the chat saying, yep, going to check this out. 989 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,920 Great initiative. 990 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,000 I agree, Walpax, completely. 991 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,000 Thank you. 992 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:04,720 So is there anything that you'd like to end with, any sort of final plugs or closing statements? 993 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,880 Honestly, no, I think we've gone through everything. 994 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,360 I wanted to say thank you, Lenzer, for being such a great supporter from the beginning, 995 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:21,760 for waking up at 5 a.m., your local time, to have a chat with me, for being so positive 996 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,260 and warm and supportive. 997 01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:30,160 And this is one of the reasons why we want to be part of this fabulous Sandfam, because 998 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:35,760 of people like you and like Seb and others we've had the real chance to work with, to 999 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,920 collaborate. 1000 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,400 And it really emphasizes why we want to do this with Sandbox. 1001 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:46,560 I'm probably going to butcher this. 1002 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:57,800 That was Portuguese, everyone. 1003 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,800 My very bad Portuguese. 1004 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:08,880 Because I think we mentioned at the very beginning, Ayumi, you are not from France, your heritage 1005 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,280 is Brazilian. 1006 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:18,600 I am half Japanese, Ayumi, and I'm quarter Brazilian, a quarter British, but I was born 1007 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,160 in Brazil, in Rio. 1008 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,720 And then I grew up in Johannesburg, in South Africa. 1009 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,960 And I've been living in France for many years now. 1010 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,280 Grew up in Johannesburg. 1011 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,200 You are a very storied background, very diverse background. 1012 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:41,080 I grew up in your heart, so that's why fighting anything against discrimination is so close 1013 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,040 to my heart, I have it in my skin. 1014 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,560 It is your very being. 1015 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,840 How about that? 1016 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,760 It's been such a pleasure to have you on, Ayumi. 1017 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,880 Thank you so much for your time. 1018 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,880 Obrigado. 1019 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,880 De nada, de nada. 1020 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,880 Complicia. 1021 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,880 Thank you, Lenza. 1022 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,880 Thank you, everybody. 1023 01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,880 So everyone, thank you. 1024 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:00,880 This was Sandow, 15 years old. 1025 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,480 This was Sandow, 58. 1026 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:08,000 We had Ayumi from Women in Tech, who's the founder of Women in Tech, an international 1027 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:15,600 organization seeking to do a collaboration with the sandbox to empower women in Web 3. 1028 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:21,720 It had various elements to it with education, internship, coaching, event sponsorships. 1029 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,760 And we're not talking like, we're talking prestigious events. 1030 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:32,560 And some of the things that will help not only women in tech, but also further the goals 1031 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,920 of sandbox. 1032 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,800 So Ayumi, thank you for your time and have a great day. 1033 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,800 Have a great day. 1034 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:39,800 Thank you. 1035 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:57,040 Thank you.