1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,800 Hello everybody, Sandow Podcast. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,760 It is January 2nd, so our first one of the new year. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:18,040 I have today with me Roxy Miguel, and he is one of the 12 delegates that was recently 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:25,440 announced and has been voting on a couple of the new SIPs with their new voting power. 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Welcome Roxy. 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,400 So today is about a meet and greet with Roxy, a learning opportunity to see how Roxy wants 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,720 to vote, how he approaches voting, and some of the basic normal questions I've been asking 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,600 each of the delegates so far. 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Disclaimers that neither Roxy nor I represent the Sandbox Game or the Sandbox DAO Foundation 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,920 were not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken as financial 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,720 or legal advice. 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,280 When we say the word SIP, we mean Sandbox Improvement Proposal. 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,720 When we say the word DAO, we mean Decentralized Autonomous Organization. 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,920 When we say SanFam, we're talking about the people, purpose, and products of the Sandbox 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,920 ecosystem. 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,840 That ecosystem looks a little bit like this. 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:14,360 And today's episode right there in the big red DAO delegates section under the people 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,360 is what we're talking about today. 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,740 Scoreboard has changed. 20 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:23,080 There's SIP 19, which is this podcast. 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,560 SIP is currently up for vote. 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:31,080 It's neck and neck right now, like 52% yes and 42% no with the latest delegate vote. 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,480 So there's a lot of discussion going on and appreciate everyone's just vote. 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Just get us to quorum and then we'll let the yes no vote be what that is. 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 And the team selection for the user generated platform development hasn't gone to vote yet, 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,240 but it is imminent between the two proposal seekers. 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:55,760 In the checkbook, we are still at 15% of our $15.5 million budget spent. 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:04,080 And later on this month, we expect there to be a new, I think 10 million SIP coming from 29 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,320 the Sandbox game. 30 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,080 These slides that you see right here are going to change. 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,040 So I'm getting to the point where I'm going to take them out and I do like a Sandbox weekly, 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,040 most likely, but we'll all see if Sandbox, a Sandbox gets funded, things will change. 33 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,520 And if not, then things will still change. 34 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Road to the Dow. 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,820 So episode one, we started with way back, June, July, but May 28th is when the Dow was 36 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:32,480 announced through a medium article. 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,720 September 10th is when the Sandbox Dow opened up delegation applications. 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,280 And November 13th is when the 12 delegates were announced, of which Roxy Miguel is one 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,960 of them. 40 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,560 So Roxy, thank you for your time. 41 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Thank you for being here. 42 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 And let's start with your background. 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Can you give us a little bit about your background? 44 00:02:54,920 --> 00:03:06,160 Well, I think that my background before Sandbox is that I was trying to be immersed in making 45 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,680 my own game. 46 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,360 I think that that was something that attracted me to the Sandbox. 47 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:22,160 I was when the pandemics start and at the moment that I realized that we all are going 48 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:29,920 to be stuck at the house and we are going to spend a lot of time, I just give it a try 49 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:36,920 because it's something that I really want to learn for me, for something that I'm trying 50 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,880 to find something that I will enjoy. 51 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,040 And I think that making games could be something like that. 52 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:50,640 So I was having a lot of time and I give it a try. 53 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,640 And I don't remember. 54 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Oh, I think that it was a game jam. 55 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,360 And I knew about the Sandbox. 56 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:05,160 So I think that since that moment, I just stay here in the community in the Sandbox. 57 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,160 And when was that? 58 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880 When did you become Sandbox? 59 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,520 When I became Sandbox, I think when I started meeting the people, when I started meeting 60 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:25,120 the community, when other people were reaching to me for helping me because for example, 61 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:32,120 you can drop any question I think in the forum for game development stuff. 62 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:38,760 There are going to be a lot of people that were willing to help you because I think that's 63 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,480 something that the Sandbox community is know about. 64 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,040 So what year did you start Sandbox? 65 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,040 2021. 66 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,040 2021. 67 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,040 OK. 68 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:58,880 And your first event was a game jam? 69 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:07,720 It wasn't because I didn't know what to do because I was trying to learn how to make 70 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:15,160 games with Unity and I needed a little demo and stuff, but it was really hard. 71 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,440 But I was having a blast. 72 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:24,200 I was having a good time, but then I knew about this game jam in the Sandbox and I went 73 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,640 to the Game Maker and tried to figure it out. 74 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:36,520 And those times, I think that the games were about two weeks and I didn't do nothing in 75 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,520 two weeks. 76 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,400 It was just me trying to figure out what to do. 77 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:47,120 So I think that I entered the next one and it was my first entry. 78 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:59,360 But it wasn't that time that I started asking around and I see how many good people, how 79 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,000 the people that want to help you. 80 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,520 There is a lot of those here. 81 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:16,160 And I think that that's something that also makes you stay here, the community. 82 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,160 For me, it is. 83 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 What is it that you liked about the community? 84 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,640 When you met us? 85 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,640 When we met you? 86 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,480 They're willing to help. 87 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:37,800 If it's not something that if it is a bad question and a good question. 88 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,680 I don't remember what was the question. 89 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:48,160 Oh, I remember that I was trying to use a door behavior and I didn't know what to do 90 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:56,480 because I was having an asset that was from the Sandbox account, a house, and that house 91 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,320 has a door. 92 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,680 So I was trying to use the door behavior to open that door. 93 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,200 So I spent one week trying to figure that out. 94 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,640 And sometimes I'm really proud. 95 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,280 So I don't ask for help to people. 96 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:21,760 But then I decided I wasn't going to anywhere. 97 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:29,360 So I just jumped into the Discord and I just asked, hey, I have this house and I'm trying 98 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,160 to open that door. 99 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Somebody can help me. 100 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:41,000 And then it was like 10 replies in between five minutes and trying to help me to understand 101 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,720 what I have to do to make what I want to do. 102 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,800 And I was like, well, this is really cool. 103 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Thank you, everyone. 104 00:07:53,640 --> 00:08:00,640 And that was my first step into the SandFam, I think. 105 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:10,440 I don't remember who was the one that helped me, but I appreciated that help a lot. 106 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,720 And before you came to Sandbox, what's your background that you're willing to share? 107 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Well, my family, my whole family are farmers. 108 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,240 I love farm. 109 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Well, my dad has a farm. 110 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:36,880 And I consider myself like a chilling guy that always start looking for peace on the 111 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,120 farm when I am in trouble. 112 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,120 I don't know. 113 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,120 That doesn't have any sense. 114 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,000 I was in college before the pandemic. 115 00:08:48,000 --> 00:09:00,520 I was also studying agriculture and aquaculture, but I was always specializing myself in software 116 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:07,360 because I don't know, it's something that I consider that I'm good at it. 117 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,560 So I was always trying to mix those things. 118 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,880 I always liked the tech. 119 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,680 I consider myself like a tech guy. 120 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:27,800 And when, as I told you, when I knew that I'm going to stay at home, I just say, well, 121 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,120 maybe this could be something that will fulfill myself trying to learn how to make games because 122 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,840 I love games also. 123 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:43,240 I think that I found my passion thanks to the sandbox. 124 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Yeah. 125 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,240 That's really cool. 126 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,080 I understand what you're saying about the chaos when it comes to a farm. 127 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,480 There's always like animals to feed and crops. 128 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,440 There's always something you have to do where there's some emergency, like the cows got 129 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,080 out or the horses or whatever it is. 130 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,080 There's always something. 131 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Yeah, but I'm in the cows other places like the city and stuff. 132 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,040 I think that the farm is the place where I escape to. 133 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,040 Escape? 134 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,800 So it's really peaceful to me. 135 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Even if I do nothing in there, I just... 136 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Oh, you're talking about that the farm is peaceful. 137 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Okay. 138 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Yeah. 139 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,840 You and I grew up on two different types of farms. 140 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:38,320 And for example, right now when I finished the latest game jam, friendship game jam, 141 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,320 I was just full. 142 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,600 I was just tired. 143 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,920 Sometimes something happened to me. 144 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 I don't even know how to talk. 145 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 My brain is kind of like blown out. 146 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,320 I decided to go there and try to harvest some mangoes because that's the season here of 147 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,320 mangoes. 148 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,320 Gotcha. 149 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:07,440 And without any plan, I just go there and eat mangoes at breakfast, at lunch, at dinner 150 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,720 because I didn't plan nothing at all. 151 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,320 But I was really calm in there. 152 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Something that I enjoyed also. 153 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 I like doing sports as well. 154 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,680 I like to swim a lot. 155 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:27,360 I need to swim a lot. 156 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,360 You also swim? 157 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 I didn't know that. 158 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Okay. 159 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Yeah. 160 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,160 It's also that it helps me a lot. 161 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:45,560 If I'm staying here in my desk doing games, being sit all day, so swimming helps me a 162 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:50,240 lot, trying to not get crazy. 163 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Gotcha. 164 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,640 And what motivated you to become a delegate? 165 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:03,400 I think what motivates me... 166 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Maybe I could have two answers for that. 167 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:15,960 But I will give you one and I will give you the other one off record. 168 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:29,080 So I think that one moment I realized that there is a lot of things going on in the sandbox. 169 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:39,040 And for one moment I thought that this is not a place that I want to keep building. 170 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Something like that. 171 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,040 But yeah, this is a normal place. 172 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,480 I don't like to be here. 173 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Not for the people, it's other stuff. 174 00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:09,000 So I realized that we as community, as builders, as players, if we are feeling the same, that 175 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,440 is the only place that we could make a change for good. 176 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Because we cannot complain. 177 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:27,960 I mean, we can go to Twitter or any social networks to say what's the bad things that 178 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 are happening and stuff. 179 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,920 But I don't think that that will make a change. 180 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,000 But I don't remember. 181 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:47,600 I think that was in your podcast or the Gsauce space that I realized that the sandbox is 182 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:54,400 the only way that we can use to make a change. 183 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,080 I mean, responsibly, but I think that is the only way. 184 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,720 And the sandbox gives us that, right? 185 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,560 So we have to use it. 186 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:09,920 Well, it makes sense to me. 187 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,520 And in Snapshot, when I was looking at Snapshot, I didn't see any voting history. 188 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Have you voted in any other Dows? 189 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,960 I was just waiting for you, Sip, to vote. 190 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,680 That's why. 191 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,880 For those who are wondering why I just laughed so hard, Roxy just yesterday voted no on the 192 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Sand Down podcast. 193 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:44,960 And you tell you what, like I told you offline and on the forums, your response was so... 194 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,960 It was very gracious. 195 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,160 It was very merciful. 196 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,160 You explained your due diligence, all the people you talked to, how you arrived at your 197 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,160 decision. 198 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,640 And I keep telling you, I really love the fact that you contacted so many people to 199 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,780 get their opinion. 200 00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:03,160 And then you shared that knowledge in the forum post because I was learning too. 201 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,400 I get to feedback all the time, but it's not all representative of all Sand Fam. 202 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,080 So that was like another way to learn what do people think of the podcast? 203 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,080 What's important? 204 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,080 What's not? 205 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,920 And so Roxy decided to vote no. 206 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,920 And we're still friends. 207 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,920 We're still friends. 208 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,320 And he's on the podcast a day later. 209 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,400 So clearly it's all fun. 210 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,560 I'm here just because I vote no. 211 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:33,360 I don't think that I will be here if I will vote any else. 212 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Yeah. 213 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,760 So you haven't voted in any other DAO before? 214 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,000 I think that I participated sometime in one DAO that is called S-Link Shot DAO. 215 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,320 I don't know if you've heard about it. 216 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Oh yeah, okay. 217 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Gotcha. 218 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Yeah. 219 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,360 But that was the first taste of what a DAO was. 220 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,200 But I think that I participated two months in it. 221 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,200 Got it. 222 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Okay. 223 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,520 So then Sandbox DAO is really your first real DAO experience, would you say? 224 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Or am I not? 225 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Yeah. 226 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Okay. 227 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Yeah. 228 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:15,760 Because I'm trying to spend time in it, trying to be involved now that I'm delegated also. 229 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Yeah. 230 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Well, like many have probably seen, if you've seen any of my previous episodes, we're on 231 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,760 54 now, or 55 now. 232 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Roxy has been, I've known Roxy in through our chat before because you have been to a 233 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,760 lot of my live stream podcasts where you and I would ask questions. 234 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,320 He would ask questions of my interview hosts, whoever I was interviewing at the time, and 235 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,680 that would be part of the community questions. 236 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,880 So if you go back to a number of the early episodes in Sandow podcast, you'll see community 237 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,600 questions that I'm asking from Roxy because he posted that in the chat where he would 238 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,600 watch. 239 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 So Roxy and I have known each other, at least been aware of each other, but this is the 240 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,200 first time I think we've actually talked talks. 241 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,200 Yeah. 242 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Yeah. 243 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Okay. 244 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:04,560 So all that aside now, voting history, this is your real experience where you're really 245 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,180 delving into the DAO for the Sandbox. 246 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:12,880 How do you intend to approach voting yes, no, and abstain? 247 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,880 That's a really hard question. 248 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:22,640 I think that I'm going to have phases if I'm allowed to be delegate in the future as well, 249 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,600 or depending on how many voting power I will reach. 250 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:39,320 But I think that for me now, I will give my yes to SIPs that help in a short period of 251 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,440 time the builders community, the builders ecosystem. 252 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Something that will have a direct approach to them and the place that where we build. 253 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 I think that's my priority. 254 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,080 Okay. 255 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,080 And you will not vote for SIPs that don't do that? 256 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 No, only yours. 257 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:17,560 No, I think that it will be something that I think that some SIPs that are not going 258 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,680 to that direction. 259 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,000 I will think of voting. 260 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,520 I will first think of absence. 261 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,680 And then I will decide if I will keep the vote or not. 262 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:37,840 I think that I tried to think about this question, you know, but I forget what I was going to 263 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,840 say. 264 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,840 What is something like that? 265 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,560 I think that right now I really want to see a change in the ecosystem. 266 00:18:45,560 --> 00:19:00,800 And somehow I was trying to say voting no on your SIP that I'm looking for new SIPs. 267 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Even that even for example, I think that you are the few that are making SIPs right now 268 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,280 on the DAO. 269 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:20,240 And I think that you have a lot of understanding of how to make it, how all of how the SIPs 270 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:26,880 can be implemented to have a better platform. 271 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040 So let's we can use Sandow. 272 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,340 That's fine. 273 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:33,040 You voted yes for the window. 274 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,000 No, your SIPs the first that I participate. 275 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,720 You're the first one. 276 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,200 You didn't vote for the one. 277 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,200 Oh, okay. 278 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,200 I got you. 279 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,200 I got you. 280 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,680 So, so then let's just use the one that you use that you voted for now. 281 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 So you voted no for Sandow. 282 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,560 And when you explained it, you explained it mostly that it wasn't exactly builder centric. 283 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,640 It did builder focus. 284 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,640 And that's a fair criticism. 285 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,400 Absolutely fair criticism. 286 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:08,240 So is there anything outside of the builders ecosystem that you would say yes to or abstain 287 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080 instead of voting no? 288 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,160 For now, I don't think that I will do that. 289 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,160 Okay. 290 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,880 Because I think that I will. 291 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:25,880 I was thinking all these months after I finished the game that I tried to make some time to 292 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:32,120 think about it is that my priority will be the gaming ecosystem. 293 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,120 Okay. 294 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:34,120 Okay. 295 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,640 I think that makes sense. 296 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,600 I get what you're saying. 297 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,280 And are you currently involved in any other DAOs right now? 298 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Like your Slingshot or anything else? 299 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Okay. 300 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,680 Okay. 301 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Yeah, I think that's clear. 302 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,400 I think it makes it clear. 303 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,240 So from your delegate description, you talked about dedicating to empowering and supporting 304 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,400 both new and experienced builders. 305 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,740 I will champion proposals that drive innovation and growth on the sandbox together will strengthen 306 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:06,920 our community and operations. 307 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,880 How do you want to balance supporting new and experienced builders? 308 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,680 They're different needs. 309 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Yeah, because I think that also I didn't know, I didn't realize that when I wrote that description. 310 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:38,760 But now that I was in touch with all the community members, I realized that some of the new ones 311 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,200 didn't know what the DAO can do. 312 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Oh yeah. 313 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,120 So many don't have, they have no idea. 314 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:51,080 Yeah, like, like he's just, how important it is. 315 00:21:51,080 --> 00:22:00,200 They don't know how important it is because they, some of them told me that it could be 316 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,200 whatever. 317 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,200 That was the answer. 318 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:08,400 It could be whatever option, whatever boat. 319 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:17,760 And the difference with some others experiences builders was that all members is what the 320 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:24,160 majority is that they don't care at all about the DAO. 321 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:31,680 So I realized that in these weeks. 322 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,500 Sorry, what was the question? 323 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:39,600 It was how did you want to balance supporting the needs of the new builders versus the more 324 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,600 experienced builders? 325 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600 They're different needs. 326 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Oh yeah, because I don't know, trying to have both approach of what they need. 327 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:03,400 I think that they both needs to know how important is the DAO. 328 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,720 And it's actually something that could make a difference in the ecosystem. 329 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Yeah. 330 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:15,880 So an example that would be like, I've been, I've done two experiences now. 331 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,400 I've been through Game Maker Fund. 332 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,620 I've been through Builders Challenge. 333 00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:26,560 So my needs to continue to exist as a publisher are different than someone who has no idea 334 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,140 what Game Maker is or how Boxed Edit works. 335 00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:32,220 How do you mint with catalysts and all that. 336 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:34,640 So they may have very different needs and SIPs. 337 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,880 Some might need like a Game Maker Fund SIP or some might need some sort of monetization 338 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,640 clarity on the catalysts and we'll want to do that through a SIP. 339 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,920 Do you see those as conflicting at all? 340 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,320 No, I don't think so. 341 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:59,240 I think that everything has a learning curve. 342 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:07,360 If somebody, as it happened to me, if I don't know something and somebody else wants to 343 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,880 learn about it, he will just ask or figure it out. 344 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:20,440 But I think that, I mean, obviously we are on different places. 345 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 I mean, the old ones and the new ones. 346 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:33,440 But I think that the community is good enough to maintain the balance of what the new ones 347 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,920 can do and how the old ones can help. 348 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,880 If that has any sense. 349 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Yeah. 350 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320 That makes sense. 351 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,120 And what would you define as innovation and growth? 352 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,280 Do you want better tools? 353 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Do you want something that gives money back to the creators? 354 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Only above and more? 355 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,280 I think that it could be a mix between all of those. 356 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:09,320 For example, I was talking with a friend this week, he's a member also of the community. 357 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:20,760 We were talking about, for example, the needs of features of Game Maker features, Game Maker 358 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,080 features that we need. 359 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,640 For example, that's the ones that are passing through, right? 360 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:41,840 There are the ones that are reaching the ones that are looking for new features of the tools. 361 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:53,840 But I think that's something that really will innovate that will be having a way or a platform 362 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:01,400 to have better communication between the people that are developing the tools, Game Maker 363 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,080 or BoxEdit and the builders. 364 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:12,120 Because for example, you cannot ask every week or you cannot make every week and use 365 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:17,400 it for something that you want to be at to the Game Maker because it will be crazy for 366 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,400 them. 367 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:24,840 It's something that it could be solved by having a better communication. 368 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,880 Got it. 369 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,920 Between those two groups. 370 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,440 So for example, let me see if I can read. 371 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:45,720 So something innovative could be having a platform or a new tool that could unlock that 372 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000 miscommunication that I think that it is. 373 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:56,360 And not just asking for a new feature every week. 374 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:01,740 So for the SIP that I just closed out on, which was yes, so there's two SIPs. 375 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:06,360 One was the Windows resizing and that one didn't make quorum so it didn't go through. 376 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,840 But in the second SIP that closed last week was the one that did get a yes and that was 377 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,840 the filter. 378 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,760 Would you have been supportive of that or would that have not met your criteria? 379 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:23,880 I mean, I was thinking about the thing that I told you months ago because I think that 380 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,320 I make you a question of somebody who was in the podcast. 381 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:41,480 And I was asking if we need to make a SIP about every new feature or a fix that we want. 382 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,480 If it's something that we need to make a better tool. 383 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,480 I don't know. 384 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Yeah. 385 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,920 But thank God I was not participating on that SIP. 386 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 So I don't know what the answer will be. 387 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960 That sounds like it wouldn't have been an automatic yes for you. 388 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:07,520 Yeah, it is because I think that that will lead to make another SIP for another small 389 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040 feature. 390 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,440 And also having a bunch of small features is something that I don't think that will 391 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,200 fix. 392 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,480 It doesn't going to make a better... 393 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:29,200 The developers of the game maker do not going to have a nice time trying to catch every 394 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960 feature of what we are asking. 395 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,640 That's fine. 396 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,640 That's fair. 397 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Well, you're going to get another chance because I submitted my window resizing for resubmission. 398 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,520 So you're going to get a chance to decide how you want to do that. 399 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,520 Yeah. 400 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Yeah. 401 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,280 I sent them an email last week saying, I've reached the 30 day mark. 402 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,240 I'd like to resubmit now. 403 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,960 So we'll see how that goes. 404 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Cool. 405 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440 So what sort of delegate do you want to be known as? 406 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,720 When people think of Roxy Miguel, is there like a phrase or a sentence that you want 407 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,720 to be known as? 408 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,720 What? 409 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Oh, I was thinking about that. 410 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:18,760 I was trying to grab my catchphrase to everybody to delegate their vote. 411 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:26,160 I want to be the one that is looking for a better place to build. 412 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,760 I like that. 413 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,720 I like that. 414 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,160 It wasn't like that. 415 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400 I don't remember what I say, but... 416 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Yeah, you're looking for a better place to build. 417 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,760 Yeah. 418 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,760 Yeah. 419 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:46,880 You want to be one of the delegates that helps make this a better place to build. 420 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,880 Yeah. 421 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880 That's awesome. 422 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,800 I think that's very, very clear. 423 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,840 And you're not the only delegate who's centered on that sort of stuff. 424 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,040 I think Biverson isn't. 425 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Yeah, I see. 426 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,480 Yeah, he's also another good... 427 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,200 He's participated in a lot of gaming games as well. 428 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680 So it's nice to have another builder like him. 429 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Awesome. 430 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,880 He's a delegate. 431 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Okay. 432 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,200 What SIPs do you not support? 433 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 You already answered that one. 434 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:28,280 So I think we're good, which is pretty much the opposite of what will help builders. 435 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:34,280 There is something that I really like of your response yesterday that I think that is really 436 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160 true. 437 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:44,200 There is a space on the budget to have SIPs of any kinds. 438 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:50,400 There is plenty of room to have SIPs that support any type of SIP. 439 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,720 I don't remember what you write. 440 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,480 And I think that it's true. 441 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,200 There is a lot of budget from the sandbox, the treasury. 442 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:13,200 But my point, I think that voting no on your SIP is that I'm trying to establish a priority. 443 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Sure. 444 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,200 To have some... 445 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:25,400 Yeah, to try to have a better place to build. 446 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Yeah. 447 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,400 That's the next question. 448 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,240 It almost sounds like you want to start off on a good foot and set a good path from the 449 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,040 beginning and then maybe there's special cases where you... 450 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,760 This SIP is okay, not exactly builders, but later on down the road. 451 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,360 Not right now, your first SIP. 452 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Yeah. 453 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,360 That's okay. 454 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360 I was a sacrifice. 455 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360 Yeah. 456 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,360 You were the first one. 457 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360 All right. 458 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640 So what type of San San voter best fits your delegation style? 459 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,200 I could guess a builder. 460 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,080 Are there any other types? 461 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:08,680 I mean, I try to reach any kind of members, any kind of community members. 462 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,760 I was really surprised that there are also players that they have the interest of participating 463 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,880 because they thought that only the ones that are making games or assets are allowed to 464 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200 participate in the doubt. 465 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,480 And I told them that the only thing that you need is sand or land if you have, there are 466 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,960 some players that I know that have land. 467 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,880 And I think that they are not able to participate once the SIP is running because they have 468 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,920 to sign up on the snapshot, something like that. 469 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:53,920 So they need to wait to the other SIP to have the snapshot after the vote. 470 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Oh, okay. 471 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360 So you showed them what the doubt was, how to vote. 472 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Now they have to wait for the next SIP and the snapshot in order to vote. 473 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Yeah, I think that that's how it works. 474 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,120 So is that part of the 40 that you talked to? 475 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,120 What? 476 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 That was part of the 40 people that you mentioned in the post yesterday? 477 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,440 Wow. 478 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,440 Yeah. 479 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680 That's why I was so excited to hear you say that. 480 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,680 That's cool. 481 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Because that's really cool. 482 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Because there was probably 10 people just signed up that I was talking to. 483 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Wow. 484 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:35,600 And before I saw that, yeah, you need to wait to have your voting power on a snapshot that 485 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,960 is taken when the SIP is running. 486 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,840 So I just said, well, you just need to wait for the next SIP. 487 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:48,680 If you want to vote or you want to delegate your vote to me, I don't care if they don't 488 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,320 delegate their vote. 489 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,620 I just want to help them to be able to participate in the doubt. 490 00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:58,720 That's really cool. 491 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,080 You should tell Cunta that so he knows who they were and he can help make that easy for 492 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,080 them to transition in. 493 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,080 Yeah. 494 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:13,160 And there is also people that I know for years here in the platform that they don't even 495 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,560 have any kind of voting power, but they are participating in everything. 496 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,560 They don't have land. 497 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,560 They don't have sand. 498 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,560 Yeah, they can still participate. 499 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Yeah. 500 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:33,840 Yeah, they, I was asking also their opinion to have something to have in mind before I 501 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:41,520 vote because also that's one of the reasons that I didn't vote in the previous SIPs. 502 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,920 I didn't have any kind of voting power. 503 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:52,440 So trying to reach other people that was in the same situation that I was, it's also something 504 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,600 that I was seeking to know their opinions about the C&M can participate in the doubt 505 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:06,640 on the vote on the voting somehow. 506 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,600 And when you were talking to the gamers, was it just that they didn't know that they, that 507 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:18,040 the sand got them into the doubt or did they think that even though I had sand, I can't 508 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000 participate because I'm not an asset maker? 509 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,680 No, can you? 510 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:30,200 So the majority of them, they thought that there was something just like for builders, 511 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:36,120 for game devs, for box artists, you know, people that are making games. 512 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,400 So yeah, you just need sand and land. 513 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,440 That's what I thought. 514 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,720 That's fascinating. 515 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,680 That's really interesting to know. 516 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,680 That's cool art. 517 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,240 I wrote that down because that's a very important bit of information for helping understand 518 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,240 why. 519 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:55,240 Why? 520 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:59,080 Why is there not as high participation as we wanted? 521 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,080 That's really cool. 522 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,040 Thank you for doing that, Roxy. 523 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,040 That's really valuable. 524 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,560 Okay, so let's go to the delegation process. 525 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,840 Was it the same for you as it was for me where you applied and you were interviewed and then 526 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,840 you were accepted? 527 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,840 Except I wasn't accepted, you were? 528 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Yeah, except for that part, yeah. 529 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Gotcha. 530 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:29,000 And would you say that the 2 million voting power, did it change the way you voted? 531 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Yeah. 532 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,080 Yeah. 533 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Because it is a lot of responsibility, I think. 534 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,920 It's a lot. 535 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:50,240 Because it could change also the way that people are thinking about the SIP if somebody 536 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,840 with a lot of voting power, because I think that 2 million voting power is a lot. 537 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,720 It is especially a lot. 538 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:07,840 Something like that happens, people will have second thoughts or something like that. 539 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,000 People change their mind or lead the way to one decision. 540 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:24,080 So that's why I try to contact to try to see what people think, what are the feelings. 541 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,240 You're saying that it could involve people more with you? 542 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:33,720 Because they feel like you have more power, like you can actually do something with it? 543 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:42,640 Yeah, because for example, when I was reaching people, I was just asking for what they were 544 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,360 feeling about your SIP and the DAO. 545 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:56,560 And I just told them like, hey, and after you decide, hey, remember that I have 2 million 546 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:05,320 voting power, so you tell me what you feel, it could somehow change my mind if I have 547 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320 that decision. 548 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:16,680 I didn't say to nobody what I was going to vote, but I think that I decided on 2 days 549 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,680 ago. 550 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,480 So I just told everybody, just give me what you think and I will have your opinion in 551 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800 my mind. 552 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:38,360 I think that actually trying to be in touch with some friends also makes you win some 553 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,560 votes because I think that 2 people vote for you. 554 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:50,880 So it's not bad at all trying to have a reach because that's the thing. 555 00:38:50,880 --> 00:39:00,720 I didn't, as a delegate, I think that having, doesn't matter who, if it's not trying to 556 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:13,960 have less, that I'm carrying less, but doesn't matter if a SIP goes through winning or not. 557 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:24,400 I think that it's really important that the SIPs reach the quorum organically by the members 558 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160 of the community. 559 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:36,200 So that was one of the reasons that I tried to invite and make participate as much people 560 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,800 as I can, as I know. 561 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:52,320 Because either if a SIP wins or not, I think that if we just make a vote, we give our reasons 562 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,360 and the result is different than the one that we taught. 563 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,960 I think that that's important also. 564 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:12,400 Just for example, just making any example, let me think. 565 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:25,240 For example, if there is a SIP that I vote yes and doesn't go through, doesn't win, 566 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:31,200 I already made establishment of what I think that is good for the platform. 567 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,080 I think. 568 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,280 That's something that I want to always do. 569 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,160 Sorry, I don't remember what you were asking me. 570 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,160 That's okay. 571 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,160 You answered the question. 572 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,160 Yeah. 573 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:53,120 I've asked this of every delegate and they've all said no. 574 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,080 Have you had to sign any agreements other than the code of conduct to be a delegate 575 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080 and then until now? 576 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,080 No. 577 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Or yes. 578 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,080 I don't know. 579 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,080 I didn't read. 580 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,080 I just signed. 581 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,080 I just signed the document. 582 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,080 They just gave me a pencil and I just signed. 583 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,080 Oh. 584 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080 Okay. 585 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,080 No. 586 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,080 Well, other than the code of conduct, I didn't see anything else. 587 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Yeah. 588 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,080 Yeah. 589 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,080 I don't think so. 590 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,080 I don't remember. 591 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,920 I think that the code of conduct was the only thing. 592 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:31,040 I don't remember who I was talking with and he told me if I was attached to the SIP, I 593 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:37,600 don't remember much of what the DAO was deciding through the special council. 594 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,600 I don't remember. 595 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:53,360 It was something like, hey, you as a delegate are forced to be in the direction that the 596 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,920 special council is going on the SIPs. 597 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,360 And I just told him, I don't remember that in the interview or something like that. 598 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,360 He told me that. 599 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,720 And yeah. 600 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:19,040 For example, we don't have any rules other than trying to give our voice, trying to have 601 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:28,640 more participation, inviting more people to participate in the DAO. 602 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,920 I should read more what they give to me. 603 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,560 That's something that I'm really sure. 604 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,560 Probably there is something. 605 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,560 I don't think so. 606 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,560 Okay. 607 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,880 Yeah, that's fine. 608 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,920 That's completely fine. 609 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,240 Does the other delegates have any other agreements? 610 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,200 Did they tell you? 611 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,640 None of them have, most of them, all of them have said no. 612 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,160 Other than the code of conduct, that was it. 613 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,160 I think that I just keep something because I don't remember. 614 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,160 That's okay. 615 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,160 That's fine. 616 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,680 It's completely fine. 617 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,360 That was the end of the questions that I normally ask everyone else. 618 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:13,960 I wanted to also, because many people have seen Ecuador, Ecuador, Ecuador. 619 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,020 Is there anything that you want to say to, in Spanish? 620 00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:22,200 Is there anything that you want to say to anyone in Espanol? 621 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,200 Oh, something in Espanol. 622 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,200 In Espanol. 623 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,200 I don't know. 624 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:34,880 I'm just, I'm just, sometimes when I'm speaking in English, I forget about Espanol. 625 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,400 Okay, sometimes when I'm speaking English, I forget about English. 626 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Oh, ¿qué sería? 627 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:56,520 I think, yo creo que también deberíamos tener una comunidad de habla española en 628 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,520 el sandbox. 629 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,440 Yo sé que hay más miembros de la comunidad que hablan Espanol. 630 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:09,640 Well, yeah, I think that, I think that we should, I should continue speaking in English. 631 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,640 No, no, it's okay. 632 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,560 We're pretty much, we have, we got done quite, quite fast. 633 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:23,240 So please, en Espanol, hablando, hablar, hablar. 634 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,240 Lo haré. 635 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,280 La biblioteca, have you heard that from the office cities? 636 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,960 When they're trying to speak Spanish, la biblioteca. 637 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,960 Yeah, in the library. 638 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,240 Oh, yeah, there is a lot of people that speak Spanish on the sandbox. 639 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,240 Right, right. 640 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:47,200 I don't, I don't know, I don't want to say this because it isn't the, it isn't a reason, 641 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:54,560 but somehow we are forced to do our games or our creation if we are country creator 642 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880 also on English. 643 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:04,760 It is hard because I always, I always want to make, well, maybe I should make this game 644 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:13,040 on Spanish or maybe I could, or maybe I could put this post on Spanish as well, trying to 645 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,280 promote my game. 646 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:21,880 But I have a second thought and I just say, oh well, the community is in English. 647 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,360 I need to stay here. 648 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:32,520 But now that I thought we are, we, we are, we are a pretty amount of Spanish. 649 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,920 Is it, it is Spanish speakers? 650 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,920 Yeah. 651 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,240 Spanish talking, talking, talking Spanish. 652 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:43,880 There are a lot of people that, that talk in Spanish from South America. 653 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:51,240 Yeah, if there's something you'd like to say to them in Espanol, please go ahead and we're, 654 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:52,240 we're almost done. 655 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:57,160 Tenemos que traer más gente que habla Espanola. 656 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Miente. 657 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,160 A sandbox. 658 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:06,760 I don't know why, but I start to sound like Argentinian. 659 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,480 Yeah. 660 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,440 We need to bring more Spanish on the sandbox. 661 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,440 Yeah. 662 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,720 Well, that, that kind of, that we're, we're all done with the questions and, and that 663 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:24,120 kind of segued into one of the future questions that I had while I was talking to Mo and now 664 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:30,040 yourself was doing cross-cultural panels and also culture specific panels like Chinese, 665 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,040 French, Spanish. 666 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:38,280 I'm going to add Spanish now to one of them, but I would pretty much just be there to stream 667 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,160 because I don't speak, I don't speak any Korean. 668 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,440 I don't speak any Chinese, Mandarin. 669 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,720 I don't speak any French. 670 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:51,280 I speak it un poco Espanol, pero not really. 671 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,180 So, but I would just be streaming. 672 00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:58,820 So I would have like the panel and it could be you and a bunch of other Spanish speakers 673 00:46:58,820 --> 00:47:03,400 and just you talk and I would just sit there, sit here and listen. 674 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,400 And that's it. 675 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,200 What was the name of the, the tower of the Bible? 676 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,200 Tower of Babel? 677 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,720 People get crazy without the Babel something like that. 678 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:15,720 Yeah. 679 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,000 And I would have no problem doing that at all. 680 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,520 I don't even say a word and then you can, you can have, you can host a panel. 681 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,600 You can add the questions and just go through it and when you say you're done, adios and 682 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,600 then we're done. 683 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,600 And that's it. 684 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,600 Yeah. 685 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:34,760 It will be something fun to do because I don't know some others delegates from other parts 686 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,760 of the world. 687 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,760 So it will be something cool to do. 688 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,360 I do plan on doing like a delegate panel if I can manage it, but like things are, things 689 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,560 are going to change for the Sandow podcast, whether it gets voted yes or no in the next 690 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,560 week. 691 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,240 Yeah, so my next episode coming up is what is a Dow foundation? 692 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:55,040 What is a foundation company in the Cayman Islands? 693 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,200 And then I'm going to get into all the legality of what the Dow really is. 694 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,140 I still have to do my Dow delegate interview with Mo and then also some follows with Magic 695 00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:09,160 Palette with Pepe, some follow ups of Sandbox Academy with Mark. 696 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,040 And then I'm going to get into probably the sort of the end of my, what I really wanted 697 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,520 to cover since I started Sandow podcast one was the sandbox ecosystem and the Dow and 698 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,600 the creators, the market, the gamers. 699 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,140 And I'll finish with the business of the sandbox experience publishing. 700 00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:31,260 And why is it that you saw Touche and Tempest both step back from the sandbox? 701 00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:35,320 I know the same thing they're going through as I'm a publisher myself. 702 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,880 It was really hard to monetize and still is. 703 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,920 And there's some things I want to share about the business of publishing in the sandbox 704 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,080 and the difficulties that we face as publishers. 705 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,320 And then, yeah, so those are the episodes are coming up in the next probably few months 706 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,880 and looks a little bit like this. 707 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,480 And this, I will try to be there as always. 708 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,480 Yeah, thank you. 709 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,600 And I appreciate your continued participation. 710 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,800 You asked really good questions and it causes me to want to learn more too. 711 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,680 So the last thing I end with is sandbox spaces. 712 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,400 So here are the things and Roxie, you know this better than most, I'd say, not just 713 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,000 the discord, not just the sandbox Dow forums, but also there's Twitter, the hashtag the 714 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,320 sandbox Dow and also Aras selective does some pretty cool like weekly, monthly, quarterly 715 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,320 updates. 716 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,320 Yeah, kind of like newsletters. 717 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,320 Right, newsletters. 718 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,320 Exactly. 719 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,920 Yeah, something like that is really cool. 720 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,680 And then so the sandbox Dow has the official podcast now, which is down its fifth episode. 721 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,080 It's only been going for about a month, but on its fifth episode. 722 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:52,160 And the latest one was a community panel which I was on it with Batman and also Dr. Medeiros. 723 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,400 So then there's Sandow podcast, the one you're listening to right now and then San Fam Cafe 724 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,540 with Bruno, pickaxe master. 725 00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:01,620 So there's that. 726 00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:04,680 And then during the week, there are Twitter x spaces that happen. 727 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,720 So on Mondays, there's mocha verse hall. 728 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:10,480 On Saturdays, there's Bulls on the Block. 729 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,320 Monday through Friday is coffee with captain. 730 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,280 They're primarily eight coin, but they talk about sandbox every now and again. 731 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,680 And then on Tuesdays, there is natively digital with the whale Dow. 732 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,280 So whale members. 733 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,480 And they're one of the largest landowners in all sandbox. 734 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,240 And that's realized that. 735 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:37,640 Yeah, and they're they I'm just now I submit a proposal and their well down, which just 736 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,340 launched like a month ago for them to participate in every single sip, because primarily they 737 00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:44,620 would not because they didn't want to risk their wallet. 738 00:50:44,620 --> 00:50:49,040 But now that they have a multi stick wallet, they feel like they can start participating 739 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,180 in the voting. 740 00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:58,440 So they're now they're likely to register a vote for Sandow podcast sip and don't assume 741 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,640 it's going to be a yes. 742 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,320 I can't I'm not able to see it going to be yes, but we'll see. 743 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,480 But in the case that that whale IP did pass a proposal did pass. 744 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,800 So they will be voting on every sandbox sip from now on. 745 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,020 And they have about seven million voting power. 746 00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:19,960 So quorum is quorum. 747 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,320 We might be able to make sure that it's never a problem again for us if we can ensure that 748 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,920 the delegates are voting and some of the bigger wallets are voting as well. 749 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,840 But those are just some things during the week that you can participate in yourself, 750 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:38,560 Roxy and in Twitter spaces, you already know about G is us and mogul verse hall. 751 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,840 And that's it. 752 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,280 Is there anyone see if there's anyone who's currently online that we can raid before we 753 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,720 end? 754 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,280 There is not. 755 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,080 We are the only ones. 756 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,680 Oh, I see a 24k on. 757 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,680 So let's let's raid. 758 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,680 Really? 759 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,680 Yeah. 760 00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:00,440 He's playing Pokemon, but he's he's a well known sandbox maker, a game maker. 761 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,360 So we're going to go ahead and raid him. 762 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,080 But is there anything else you want to end with Roxy before we conclude? 763 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,760 Thank you for having me. 764 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:19,800 And it's really cool to be in a podcast that I always be like a listener. 765 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,240 So it's nice to be under the other side sometimes. 766 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:23,240 It's really cool. 767 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:27,320 Yeah, a listener and you always ask questions in the chat. 768 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:33,600 And yeah, I just fully appreciate how how engaging you've been in the community. 769 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,400 And now as a delegate, even if you vote, even when you vote no, like you still are very 770 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,400 engaging. 771 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,400 And I think that's awesome. 772 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,760 I can't I can't fault that at all. 773 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,760 So thank you. 774 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,760 I will. 775 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,760 Yes, for sure. 776 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,400 Yes, for you. 777 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:56,000 So gracias, muchas gracias, mi amigo, and hasta luego. 778 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000 See everybody. 779 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:20,820 To yours.