Hello everyone, Sandow Podcast number 39.
This is the second podcast for today.
First one being an interview with Sebga and that was podcast 38.
It's already live.
I just haven't publicly posted it yet on the Discord channels.
So you can feel free to go to the YouTube channel now or Spotify and you'll find it.
It was a great, great first interview with our first delegate and it was an interpretation.
I used interpretive services between myself and Sebga, whose native language is French.
This one here, number 39 with Secret Meal, is a text-based interview for the reasons
that Secret Meal chose not to appear publicly or in live, which is completely fine.
There's nothing wrong with that at all.
So I sent the questions via text.
Secret Meal answered via text and I'm going to read those answers to you.
The questions are very similar to what I asked Sebga.
Just me reading them.
So the scope of the talk today is a meet and greet and a learning opportunity with Secret
Meal.
Done via text.
Disclaimer is we do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation, which is a
DAO.
We are not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken as financial
or legal advice.
When I say the word SIP, I mean Sandbox Improvement Proposal.
When I say the word DAO, I mean Decentralized Autonomous Organization.
And when I say the word SanFam, I'm talking about the sandbox community who participate
in the people, product, purpose of the sandbox ecosystem.
That ecosystem is made up of people, product, purpose.
The one of which today that we're talking about is down there on the bottom left, the
people, the DAO delegates.
Scoreboard has not changed.
Neither has the checkbook.
The DAO admin team has been hard at work at putting together the release of the delegates,
which just happened on the 13th a few days ago.
And now I suppose they're context switching and taking a breather before they launch themselves
back into the SIP review.
DAO-based AI, we're still at 211,000 token holders who have with 2,200 voters having
casted 9,200 votes across 15 proposals.
A quick recap for the road to DAO.
We started May 28th right up here at the top with the DAO being launched via medium article.
SIPs 1, 2, and 3 were immediately available to vote with 4 and 5 only about a week after.
Various chats, AMAs, and all sorts of stuff happened with multiple SIPs opening and closing.
And we get to September 10th when the sandboxed out opened up delegations.
And then on November 13th is when the first 12 delegates were announced.
And that's what led us to today.
So our introduction is going to be with secretmeow.eth and we're going to do the introduction a
little bit different.
Normally I have someone here who can introduce themselves, but secretmeow has done this via
text.
So we're going to go right into the discussion questions and I will be reading secretmeow's
answer very nearly word for word.
The only thing that might have been adjusted is a couple of words that didn't make sense
that I clarify with secretmeow.
But what you read is the answers from secretmeow to the questions.
So the first discussion question, secretmeow, what is your background?
Secretmeow answered, I'm based in Malaysia and my background has always involved working
closely with art and video games.
I started learning about crypto on my own and was quickly drawn to the game related
projects starting with the Cinderland and then moving to the sandbox where I stayed
until now.
The sandbox really stands out as one of the top gaming platforms in the space and I think
the game maker tool to be incredible for level design.
It's been a perfect fit for my interests and skills.
That's the first answer to background.
Second is, when did you become sandfam?
Secretmeow answered, I've been part of the sandfam for almost two years now, both as
a player and a creator.
While I'm still new to the DAO side, I'm active on XTwitter and in the game maker section
of Discord where I help newcomers.
I also hang out in the creator forum, suggesting features and reporting bugs for the tools.
You guys should check that out.
Very cool.
I haven't frequented that one myself and this is me speaking not reading secretmeow's answer.
I haven't frequented that one side myself, but I definitely think that if you all can,
go check it out and see both what secretmeow says to help newcomers and if you're interested
in learning about game maker, that is a great place to start.
I delved a little bit into meow's profile.
So meow's sandfam profile is, here it is.
So on sandbox.game, the username for meow is at meow, M-E-O-W-L.
And wonky avatar, I don't really know what that is.
It looks like a hedgehog, I guess, with Thanksgiving leaves.
And then experiences, if you click the two experiences, you'll see numberlandjg math
op is the first one.
And that one is about rescuing mango and defeating the black cat by solving a series of fun math
puzzles and basic math questions.
It was opened up just about a month ago, September 25th.
The second experience in meow's resume is kalimba1290.
And it reads, place your fingers on 1290, strike the notes precisely as they reach the
tip.
So those are two experiences that meow has either developed or published.
And it looks like meow is a landowner.
And meow has over 100 assets, looks like 150 assets.
Number of assets look made or created.
Not sure if it's by meow or meow's team, but it's in the workspace.
All right, so let's go back.
So like I mentioned, two experiences, 150 assets and is a landowner.
So question number three, how have you been involved in the sandbox community?
Secret meow answered.
First as a creator in the sandbox, the best way to connect is by checking out discord
and ex twitter, where you'll find many lovely creators and studios to follow.
Over time, you'll find yourself surrounded by the sand fam.
Some share their work focused on game logic.
Some focus on asset creation.
I do both, but I focus on the game logic part.
I also help them get involved in other studio projects.
The two game experiences on my page are more for fun and exploration.
And there we go.
We just talked about those two experiences.
So kalimba and numberland JG or GJ.
And secret meow's responses was that they're more for fun exploration.
Okay, the question number four, what was your motivation for applying secret meow answered?
I've been using the tools game maker and Vox edit for almost two years now.
And while they have evolved, the progress has been quite slow.
I see a lot of potential in the platform and I hope to contribute to making meaningful
changes that can help speed up this evolution.
Question five, your voting history shows participation in sandbox style, which are mostly yes votes,
sub-dow, some yes votes and some no votes, and decentral and now all were yes votes.
How did you approach voting in each of those dows?
Secret meow answered for the sandbox style.
I focus mainly, but not exclusively on proposals related to game creation tools as these have
the most significant impact on the platform's growth.
I also vote yes on proposals to support quorum that encourage meaningful progress.
Secret meow continues.
I remember voting no on SIP 14, which proposed window sizing and resolution options.
Secret meow continues.
I felt that it wasn't a priority for the creators at the time.
I believe the development team's efforts could be better spent on more essential features.
That's not to say I think the features are important, just that it wasn't urgent within
the context of the sandbox's growth at the stage.
And that makes me sad because SIP 14 was one of mine.
I proposed window sizing and resolution options.
It was important to me and important to some other creators, but as you can see, meow being
a creator himself, herself, was, it was not important to them.
We since had some discussions since then between meow and I, and perhaps if I end up resubmitting,
I'll be able to request meow's yes vote and obtain that.
But I can understand why it feels like it's not a priority for creators.
When magic palette comes about, I think this will be much more important, mostly because
magic palette is a web based and if you cannot windows resize or choose the resolution option
of your creative platform, especially game maker, then you're kind of at this disadvantage
of alt tabbing in and out and it's just, it doesn't need to happen.
It really, technology is advanced to the point where we don't need to rely on static windows.
That's my thought.
Anyways, I definitely can understand and appreciate if secret meow disagrees with that.
Reasonable people can disagree.
Okay.
Question number six.
Are you involved in any other dowels?
Secret meow says currently no, only the sandbox.
All right.
Questions seven, eight and nine end up being combined.
Seven was what tools are you looking to vote for?
Eight was how do you want SIPs to inspire better games?
And nine was how do you want to achieve a better sandbox with your delegation?
Secret meow answered.
I think questions seven, eight and nine can be answered together.
My main goal is to support proposals that improve tools for creators and enhance the
player experience like SIP six magic palette.
I had the chance to try it and the progress look is looking great.
By providing better tools, we can inspire creators to build more innovative and diverse
games which in turn attract creators and players.
As a UGC platform, UGC means user generated content.
I believe this will help achieve a better sandbox for everyone.
A couple follow ups or things of note is that magic palette right now is accepting beta
applications to test magic palette.
It is one of the final stages before magic palette is ready to go for the rest of the
community.
So if you are interested in that, please go to make sure I get this right.
Magic palette.io M A G I C P A L E T T E dot IO.
And there you can see here the pre register button, the top left.
So pre register there and and they're accepting applications right now and hopefully if you
can get in, you will be able to use utilize it right now.
I highly recommend it.
I'd also highly recommend join the discord for for magic palette because that's where
I saw the beta beta applications being announced first.
Okay, question 10.
What type of San Fam voter best fits your delegation style?
Secret Meow answered creators and players who believe in the sandboxes potential to be the
best long term UGC platform.
Okay next question.
Question number 11.
What was the delegate process like for you?
Secret Meow answered before this, I just went with my gut when voting.
Now I feel a bit more responsibility.
I should be more cautious and think about how I can actually contribute.
Well said, Meow.
Well said.
We all learn and grow.
And at this point, so many of us are new to DAOs.
I've only known what a DAO was since May 28th when it was announced.
Since then, I've joined nine DAOs.
I'm active in five of them.
I used to be active in two or three up until about a month or two ago.
And then I really started to expand my DAO horizon.
I got a certification in DAO by the blockchain council.
So I've been expanding my experience to try and understand rather than like I myself going
with my gut.
Now I'm doing a bit more reflection and introspection of how does this impact the DAO community
and that sort of thing.
So I completely understand and can sympathize with that.
Question 12.
The 2 million voting power delegated.
Were you expecting this?
Secret Rial answered.
It's a big responsibility, but I'm excited to take it on.
I'm grateful for the trust.
And as we learned, I think earlier today in Sebka's podcast, that was podcast 38, that
it seems like the 2 million voting power isn't land or sand tokens.
It is a third thing.
Maybe it's like a third token that only delegates are able to have, but still counts.
So I'm interested to see.
I think I need to delve more into the strategy section of snapshot to understand it fully.
I'm still trying to work that website out to where I can fully understand what is I'm
looking at.
It can be a little bit difficult to get through that section sometimes for me.
Question 13.
Have you had to sign any agreements to be a delegate?
Secret Rial answered.
It's been a while since the delegate application, but I remember going through a forum and an
interview session.
So similar to how Sebka responded and some others that I've, spoiler alert, there are
more that text interviews that I'll be doing this for.
They too have said the same thing that they weren't expecting it and they have not had
to sign any special agreements since.
The only exception was Sebka who is an ambassador.
So had to sign an ambassador, non-disclosure agreement with the sandbox, which is not the
same thing as a sandbox DAO.
So the sandbox game company and you can look at, I believe it was podcast 33 for the birth
of the DAO in order to see how that relationship works, but they are separate and distinct.
Okay.
Next up, question number 14.
What sort of sips do you not support?
Secret Rial answered.
I might hesitate to support sips that don't clearly add to the sandbox's growth or that
I feel could be structured to better benefit the community, but I'm open to experimental
ideas that show positive, excuse me, that show potential for positive impact.
Question 15.
Have you received the 2 million delegated gift yet?
Have they said how they will give you the 2 million?
Secret Rial answered.
I haven't received the details.
That too is the consistent with what I've seen and heard so far.
Okay.
And that will conclude Secret Rial's answers to the questions.
I greatly appreciate Secret Rial and agreeing to answer the questions.
Like I said, it's no obligation to come on and do it live and no obligation to do it
live with your face, your real face like I'm doing.
Whereas with Sebga this morning, we plastered Sebga's avatar on top of his face.
And that's strictly the person's comfort level.
I can accommodate any of that.
Just the fact that we hear and understand the perspective and hear those answers.
That meets the intent of what I'm really after here, which is who is the delegate?
What do they believe?
And that's where we'll leave it.
Didn't have any community questions and no open topics.
So let's move on to the episodes.
So for these episodes, that has changed so much in the past three days.
I had episodes locked into place that are no longer locked into place.
So did Sebga this morning just finished with Secret Rial?
Tomorrow, I will likely be able to hit Kurchato's.
And then after that, we'll be doing a live interview with the Hidden Walls, which is
also known as the Intern.
After that, then we'll be doing an episode with Robbie.Eath, otherwise known as CryptoDiplo.
And I'll be sliding in the other delegates as we solidify those scheduled times.
The interview I had locked into place with the DAO times from our writer, Kalament, and
BanklessDAO with Z-Fi and Rowan, that's still undergoing some schedule adjustments to make
sure everyone's schedule can fit.
But those are DAO lessons that we are going to learn from other DAOs so that we can take
those, improve it, and do the best we can.
So I will continue to do delegate interviews for the time being while I complete the DAO
Constitution articles of incorporation and memos for the Sandbox Foundation founding
documents.
That one I'm super excited for, but it has turned out to be a monster to complete.
It's already 70 slides.
It's going to dwarf even the birth of the Sandbox DAO.
I thought it was going to be easier and less, but it turns out there are far more regulations
and laws within the Cayman Islands laws and acts that I had to take into account that
I didn't even know existed even when I did my beginning research into the Sandbox DAO
and the Sandbox Foundation stakeholder diagram and network map and all that stuff that I
created for it.
That was just surface level come to find out.
There are more laws I had to surf through and read in order to figure out what connections
were being made with why things looked the way they did in the Sandbox DAO Foundation
documents like the articles of association, the memos of association, and the DAO Constitution.
There are reasons why they read the way they read and that episode will reveal that.
And then we're going to be doing a follow up of Magic Palette, which like I mentioned
earlier went into beta and Pepe is almost ready for a follow up so that we can show
the latest and greatest.
And what I didn't have listed here, but will happen soon is a follow up with Mark from
the Sandbox Academy.
And he has some really exciting news.
That was sift number 11 which passed that Sandbox Academy in the Philippines and has
some really, really good news and progress at teaching people in the Philippines about
Game Maker Vox editor to become creators within the Sandbox ecosystem.
I'm going to add that here because we all but know it's going to happen.
It's just we need to get on the other side of the first lesson that he's going to do
so that we can then have a nice really cool debrief of all the good stuff that he's doing.
So looking forward to that.
And then I'll start making many series after that on the Sandbox ecosystem, particularly
how it works in the DAO, the creators, the market, and the gamers.
I'm really looking forward to that because it's about time that we get down to the education
side of how the ecosystem works when you zoom in on things like the DAO, creators, market,
and the gamers.
The ecosystems that matter the most to us as we click and log in day to day.
And that will bring us to Sandbox basis.
So on Discord, look for the hashtag DAO-discussion channel.
On the Sandbox DAO forums, forums.sandboxdao.com.
On Twitter, look for hashtag Sandfam, hashtag the Sandbox DAO, hashtag the Sandbox game.
Or follow the Sandbox DAO main Twitter handle, X handle.
On YouTube, we have the Sandbox DAO channel.
The Sand DAO podcast is on my channel, which is at Lancer YT and at the Sam fam cafe, which
is hosted by Bruno, otherwise known as Pickaxe Master and Sandbox Spaces.
Mocha verse hall on Mondays, Bulls on the Block on Saturdays, Coffee with Captain Monday through
Friday in the mornings, and Natively Digital with whale members on Tuesdays.
That's where Sandfam will gather and you will see them in there.
I'm going to go ahead and choose someone to raid if someone is online.
And then we will conclude today.
Let's see who's online.
Looks like Redemus777 is currently playing, but it doesn't look like Redemus is streaming
anything.
So we're going to raid a friend of mine.
I raid him fairly often whenever I don't see anyone else online from the sandbox.
See if we can tip him over a hundred.
RCTV.
So the raid has been created.
Thank you all very much for your time.
Today was about a text based interview with SecretMeow.Eath, who is our second delegate
interview, two of twelve that we have now interviewed.
And awesome.
Have a great day, everyone.