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Hello everyone, Sandow Podcast number 39.

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This is the second podcast for today.

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First one being an interview with Sebga and that was podcast 38.

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It's already live.

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I just haven't publicly posted it yet on the Discord channels.

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So you can feel free to go to the YouTube channel now or Spotify and you'll find it.

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It was a great, great first interview with our first delegate and it was an interpretation.

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I used interpretive services between myself and Sebga, whose native language is French.

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This one here, number 39 with Secret Meal, is a text-based interview for the reasons

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that Secret Meal chose not to appear publicly or in live, which is completely fine.

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There's nothing wrong with that at all.

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So I sent the questions via text.

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Secret Meal answered via text and I'm going to read those answers to you.

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The questions are very similar to what I asked Sebga.

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Just me reading them.

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So the scope of the talk today is a meet and greet and a learning opportunity with Secret

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Meal.

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Done via text.

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Disclaimer is we do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation, which is a

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DAO.

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We are not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken as financial

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or legal advice.

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When I say the word SIP, I mean Sandbox Improvement Proposal.

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When I say the word DAO, I mean Decentralized Autonomous Organization.

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And when I say the word SanFam, I'm talking about the sandbox community who participate

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in the people, product, purpose of the sandbox ecosystem.

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That ecosystem is made up of people, product, purpose.

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The one of which today that we're talking about is down there on the bottom left, the

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people, the DAO delegates.

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Scoreboard has not changed.

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Neither has the checkbook.

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The DAO admin team has been hard at work at putting together the release of the delegates,

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which just happened on the 13th a few days ago.

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And now I suppose they're context switching and taking a breather before they launch themselves

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back into the SIP review.

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DAO-based AI, we're still at 211,000 token holders who have with 2,200 voters having

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casted 9,200 votes across 15 proposals.

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A quick recap for the road to DAO.

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We started May 28th right up here at the top with the DAO being launched via medium article.

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SIPs 1, 2, and 3 were immediately available to vote with 4 and 5 only about a week after.

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Various chats, AMAs, and all sorts of stuff happened with multiple SIPs opening and closing.

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And we get to September 10th when the sandboxed out opened up delegations.

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And then on November 13th is when the first 12 delegates were announced.

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And that's what led us to today.

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So our introduction is going to be with secretmeow.eth and we're going to do the introduction a

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little bit different.

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Normally I have someone here who can introduce themselves, but secretmeow has done this via

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text.

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So we're going to go right into the discussion questions and I will be reading secretmeow's

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answer very nearly word for word.

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The only thing that might have been adjusted is a couple of words that didn't make sense

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that I clarify with secretmeow.

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But what you read is the answers from secretmeow to the questions.

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So the first discussion question, secretmeow, what is your background?

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Secretmeow answered, I'm based in Malaysia and my background has always involved working

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closely with art and video games.

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I started learning about crypto on my own and was quickly drawn to the game related

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projects starting with the Cinderland and then moving to the sandbox where I stayed

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until now.

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The sandbox really stands out as one of the top gaming platforms in the space and I think

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the game maker tool to be incredible for level design.

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It's been a perfect fit for my interests and skills.

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That's the first answer to background.

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Second is, when did you become sandfam?

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Secretmeow answered, I've been part of the sandfam for almost two years now, both as

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a player and a creator.

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While I'm still new to the DAO side, I'm active on XTwitter and in the game maker section

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of Discord where I help newcomers.

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I also hang out in the creator forum, suggesting features and reporting bugs for the tools.

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You guys should check that out.

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Very cool.

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I haven't frequented that one myself and this is me speaking not reading secretmeow's answer.

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I haven't frequented that one side myself, but I definitely think that if you all can,

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go check it out and see both what secretmeow says to help newcomers and if you're interested

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in learning about game maker, that is a great place to start.

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I delved a little bit into meow's profile.

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So meow's sandfam profile is, here it is.

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So on sandbox.game, the username for meow is at meow, M-E-O-W-L.

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And wonky avatar, I don't really know what that is.

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It looks like a hedgehog, I guess, with Thanksgiving leaves.

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And then experiences, if you click the two experiences, you'll see numberlandjg math

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op is the first one.

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And that one is about rescuing mango and defeating the black cat by solving a series of fun math

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puzzles and basic math questions.

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It was opened up just about a month ago, September 25th.

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The second experience in meow's resume is kalimba1290.

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And it reads, place your fingers on 1290, strike the notes precisely as they reach the

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tip.

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So those are two experiences that meow has either developed or published.

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And it looks like meow is a landowner.

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And meow has over 100 assets, looks like 150 assets.

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Number of assets look made or created.

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Not sure if it's by meow or meow's team, but it's in the workspace.

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All right, so let's go back.

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So like I mentioned, two experiences, 150 assets and is a landowner.

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So question number three, how have you been involved in the sandbox community?

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Secret meow answered.

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First as a creator in the sandbox, the best way to connect is by checking out discord

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and ex twitter, where you'll find many lovely creators and studios to follow.

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Over time, you'll find yourself surrounded by the sand fam.

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Some share their work focused on game logic.

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Some focus on asset creation.

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I do both, but I focus on the game logic part.

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I also help them get involved in other studio projects.

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The two game experiences on my page are more for fun and exploration.

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And there we go.

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We just talked about those two experiences.

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So kalimba and numberland JG or GJ.

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And secret meow's responses was that they're more for fun exploration.

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Okay, the question number four, what was your motivation for applying secret meow answered?

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I've been using the tools game maker and Vox edit for almost two years now.

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And while they have evolved, the progress has been quite slow.

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I see a lot of potential in the platform and I hope to contribute to making meaningful

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changes that can help speed up this evolution.

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Question five, your voting history shows participation in sandbox style, which are mostly yes votes,

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sub-dow, some yes votes and some no votes, and decentral and now all were yes votes.

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How did you approach voting in each of those dows?

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Secret meow answered for the sandbox style.

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I focus mainly, but not exclusively on proposals related to game creation tools as these have

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the most significant impact on the platform's growth.

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I also vote yes on proposals to support quorum that encourage meaningful progress.

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Secret meow continues.

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I remember voting no on SIP 14, which proposed window sizing and resolution options.

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Secret meow continues.

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I felt that it wasn't a priority for the creators at the time.

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I believe the development team's efforts could be better spent on more essential features.

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That's not to say I think the features are important, just that it wasn't urgent within

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the context of the sandbox's growth at the stage.

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And that makes me sad because SIP 14 was one of mine.

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I proposed window sizing and resolution options.

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It was important to me and important to some other creators, but as you can see, meow being

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a creator himself, herself, was, it was not important to them.

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We since had some discussions since then between meow and I, and perhaps if I end up resubmitting,

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I'll be able to request meow's yes vote and obtain that.

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But I can understand why it feels like it's not a priority for creators.

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When magic palette comes about, I think this will be much more important, mostly because

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magic palette is a web based and if you cannot windows resize or choose the resolution option

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of your creative platform, especially game maker, then you're kind of at this disadvantage

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of alt tabbing in and out and it's just, it doesn't need to happen.

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It really, technology is advanced to the point where we don't need to rely on static windows.

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That's my thought.

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Anyways, I definitely can understand and appreciate if secret meow disagrees with that.

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Reasonable people can disagree.

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Okay.

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Question number six.

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Are you involved in any other dowels?

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Secret meow says currently no, only the sandbox.

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All right.

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Questions seven, eight and nine end up being combined.

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Seven was what tools are you looking to vote for?

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Eight was how do you want SIPs to inspire better games?

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And nine was how do you want to achieve a better sandbox with your delegation?

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Secret meow answered.

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I think questions seven, eight and nine can be answered together.

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My main goal is to support proposals that improve tools for creators and enhance the

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player experience like SIP six magic palette.

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I had the chance to try it and the progress look is looking great.

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By providing better tools, we can inspire creators to build more innovative and diverse

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games which in turn attract creators and players.

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As a UGC platform, UGC means user generated content.

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I believe this will help achieve a better sandbox for everyone.

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A couple follow ups or things of note is that magic palette right now is accepting beta

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applications to test magic palette.

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It is one of the final stages before magic palette is ready to go for the rest of the

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community.

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So if you are interested in that, please go to make sure I get this right.

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Magic palette.io M A G I C P A L E T T E dot IO.

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And there you can see here the pre register button, the top left.

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So pre register there and and they're accepting applications right now and hopefully if you

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can get in, you will be able to use utilize it right now.

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I highly recommend it.

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I'd also highly recommend join the discord for for magic palette because that's where

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I saw the beta beta applications being announced first.

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Okay, question 10.

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What type of San Fam voter best fits your delegation style?

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Secret Meow answered creators and players who believe in the sandboxes potential to be the

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best long term UGC platform.

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Question number 11.

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What was the delegate process like for you?

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Secret Meow answered before this, I just went with my gut when voting.

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Now I feel a bit more responsibility.

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I should be more cautious and think about how I can actually contribute.

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Well said, Meow.

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Well said.

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We all learn and grow.

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And at this point, so many of us are new to DAOs.

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I've only known what a DAO was since May 28th when it was announced.

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Since then, I've joined nine DAOs.

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I'm active in five of them.

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I used to be active in two or three up until about a month or two ago.

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And then I really started to expand my DAO horizon.

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I got a certification in DAO by the blockchain council.

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So I've been expanding my experience to try and understand rather than like I myself going

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with my gut.

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Now I'm doing a bit more reflection and introspection of how does this impact the DAO community

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and that sort of thing.

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So I completely understand and can sympathize with that.

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Question 12.

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The 2 million voting power delegated.

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Were you expecting this?

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Secret Rial answered.

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It's a big responsibility, but I'm excited to take it on.

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I'm grateful for the trust.

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And as we learned, I think earlier today in Sebka's podcast, that was podcast 38, that

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it seems like the 2 million voting power isn't land or sand tokens.

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It is a third thing.

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Maybe it's like a third token that only delegates are able to have, but still counts.

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So I'm interested to see.

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I think I need to delve more into the strategy section of snapshot to understand it fully.

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I'm still trying to work that website out to where I can fully understand what is I'm

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looking at.

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It can be a little bit difficult to get through that section sometimes for me.

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Question 13.

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Have you had to sign any agreements to be a delegate?

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Secret Rial answered.

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It's been a while since the delegate application, but I remember going through a forum and an

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interview session.

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So similar to how Sebka responded and some others that I've, spoiler alert, there are

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more that text interviews that I'll be doing this for.

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They too have said the same thing that they weren't expecting it and they have not had

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to sign any special agreements since.

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The only exception was Sebka who is an ambassador.

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So had to sign an ambassador, non-disclosure agreement with the sandbox, which is not the

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same thing as a sandbox DAO.

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So the sandbox game company and you can look at, I believe it was podcast 33 for the birth

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of the DAO in order to see how that relationship works, but they are separate and distinct.

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Next up, question number 14.

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What sort of sips do you not support?

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Secret Rial answered.

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I might hesitate to support sips that don't clearly add to the sandbox's growth or that

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I feel could be structured to better benefit the community, but I'm open to experimental

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ideas that show positive, excuse me, that show potential for positive impact.

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Question 15.

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Have you received the 2 million delegated gift yet?

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Have they said how they will give you the 2 million?

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Secret Rial answered.

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I haven't received the details.

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That too is the consistent with what I've seen and heard so far.

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Okay.

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And that will conclude Secret Rial's answers to the questions.

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I greatly appreciate Secret Rial and agreeing to answer the questions.

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Like I said, it's no obligation to come on and do it live and no obligation to do it

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live with your face, your real face like I'm doing.

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Whereas with Sebga this morning, we plastered Sebga's avatar on top of his face.

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And that's strictly the person's comfort level.

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I can accommodate any of that.

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Just the fact that we hear and understand the perspective and hear those answers.

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That meets the intent of what I'm really after here, which is who is the delegate?

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What do they believe?

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And that's where we'll leave it.

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Didn't have any community questions and no open topics.

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So let's move on to the episodes.

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So for these episodes, that has changed so much in the past three days.

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I had episodes locked into place that are no longer locked into place.

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So did Sebga this morning just finished with Secret Rial?

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Tomorrow, I will likely be able to hit Kurchato's.

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And then after that, we'll be doing a live interview with the Hidden Walls, which is

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also known as the Intern.

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After that, then we'll be doing an episode with Robbie.Eath, otherwise known as CryptoDiplo.

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And I'll be sliding in the other delegates as we solidify those scheduled times.

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The interview I had locked into place with the DAO times from our writer, Kalament, and

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BanklessDAO with Z-Fi and Rowan, that's still undergoing some schedule adjustments to make

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sure everyone's schedule can fit.

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But those are DAO lessons that we are going to learn from other DAOs so that we can take

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those, improve it, and do the best we can.

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So I will continue to do delegate interviews for the time being while I complete the DAO

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Constitution articles of incorporation and memos for the Sandbox Foundation founding

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documents.

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That one I'm super excited for, but it has turned out to be a monster to complete.

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It's already 70 slides.

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It's going to dwarf even the birth of the Sandbox DAO.

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I thought it was going to be easier and less, but it turns out there are far more regulations

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and laws within the Cayman Islands laws and acts that I had to take into account that

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I didn't even know existed even when I did my beginning research into the Sandbox DAO

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and the Sandbox Foundation stakeholder diagram and network map and all that stuff that I

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created for it.

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That was just surface level come to find out.

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There are more laws I had to surf through and read in order to figure out what connections

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were being made with why things looked the way they did in the Sandbox DAO Foundation

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documents like the articles of association, the memos of association, and the DAO Constitution.

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There are reasons why they read the way they read and that episode will reveal that.

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And then we're going to be doing a follow up of Magic Palette, which like I mentioned

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earlier went into beta and Pepe is almost ready for a follow up so that we can show

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the latest and greatest.

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And what I didn't have listed here, but will happen soon is a follow up with Mark from

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the Sandbox Academy.

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And he has some really exciting news.

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That was sift number 11 which passed that Sandbox Academy in the Philippines and has

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some really, really good news and progress at teaching people in the Philippines about

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Game Maker Vox editor to become creators within the Sandbox ecosystem.

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I'm going to add that here because we all but know it's going to happen.

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It's just we need to get on the other side of the first lesson that he's going to do

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so that we can then have a nice really cool debrief of all the good stuff that he's doing.

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So looking forward to that.

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And then I'll start making many series after that on the Sandbox ecosystem, particularly

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how it works in the DAO, the creators, the market, and the gamers.

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I'm really looking forward to that because it's about time that we get down to the education

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side of how the ecosystem works when you zoom in on things like the DAO, creators, market,

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and the gamers.

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The ecosystems that matter the most to us as we click and log in day to day.

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And that will bring us to Sandbox basis.

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So on Discord, look for the hashtag DAO-discussion channel.

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On the Sandbox DAO forums, forums.sandboxdao.com.

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On Twitter, look for hashtag Sandfam, hashtag the Sandbox DAO, hashtag the Sandbox game.

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Or follow the Sandbox DAO main Twitter handle, X handle.

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On YouTube, we have the Sandbox DAO channel.

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The Sand DAO podcast is on my channel, which is at Lancer YT and at the Sam fam cafe, which

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is hosted by Bruno, otherwise known as Pickaxe Master and Sandbox Spaces.

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Mocha verse hall on Mondays, Bulls on the Block on Saturdays, Coffee with Captain Monday through

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Friday in the mornings, and Natively Digital with whale members on Tuesdays.

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That's where Sandfam will gather and you will see them in there.

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I'm going to go ahead and choose someone to raid if someone is online.

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And then we will conclude today.

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Let's see who's online.

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Looks like Redemus777 is currently playing, but it doesn't look like Redemus is streaming

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anything.

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So we're going to raid a friend of mine.

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I raid him fairly often whenever I don't see anyone else online from the sandbox.

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See if we can tip him over a hundred.

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RCTV.

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So the raid has been created.

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Thank you all very much for your time.

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Today was about a text based interview with SecretMeow.Eath, who is our second delegate

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interview, two of twelve that we have now interviewed.

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And awesome.

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Have a great day, everyone.

